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::That page keeps getting deleted to remove the history. I was thinking using subpages for the sandboxing would be better. [[User:RadioactiveBoulevardier|RadioactiveBoulevardier]] ([[User talk:RadioactiveBoulevardier|talk]]) 06:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
::That page keeps getting deleted to remove the history. I was thinking using subpages for the sandboxing would be better. [[User:RadioactiveBoulevardier|RadioactiveBoulevardier]] ([[User talk:RadioactiveBoulevardier|talk]]) 06:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
:I think the simplest solution would be to create [[Portal:Sandbox]]. Rather than modifying or overriding the title blacklist, which I imagine is there for a reason. I think [[Template:Template sandbox]] is an exception because [[Template:Sandbox]] already exists and is for something else (is not a sandbox). There are other sandboxes that follow the normal naming convention such as [[Draft:Sandbox]]. Please also consider if we need another sandbox, or if we can just reuse an existing one or use a userspace page. FYI, certain sandboxes are set up to be automatically cleaned by a bot. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 06:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
:I think the simplest solution would be to create [[Portal:Sandbox]]. Rather than modifying or overriding the title blacklist, which I imagine is there for a reason. I think [[Template:Template sandbox]] is an exception because [[Template:Sandbox]] already exists and is for something else (is not a sandbox). There are other sandboxes that follow the normal naming convention such as [[Draft:Sandbox]]. Please also consider if we need another sandbox, or if we can just reuse an existing one or use a userspace page. FYI, certain sandboxes are set up to be automatically cleaned by a bot. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 06:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

== 1rr Arab-Israeli conflict warning ==

There is a message you can send users that edit Arab-Israeli conflict articles. To follow the 1rr. It is needed before an arbitration enforcement request.

Can someone send it to User:Galamore ?

He has recently violated the 1rr and is claiming at his talkpage that he hasnt (he has) [[User:Supreme Deliciousness|Supreme Deliciousness]] ([[User talk:Supreme Deliciousness|talk]]) 07:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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    Reporting @Juli Wolfe

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.



    Reporting this user @Juli Wolfe

    Trying to delete articles that I've contributed to in bad faith. This user is disruptive and needs to be removed.

    I donate to Wikipedia insane amounts of money and do not want to see users like this on the platform. Please delete and remove @Juli Wolfe Yfjr (talk) 19:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    First off, when coming to WP:AN you need to realize your own actions will be under scrutiny. Including where you called another editor a clown and tried to vandalize their user page. Philipnelson99 (talk) 19:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Philipnelson99 thank you for reverting back my talk page to normal. And thank you everyone for stepping in, This user @Yfjr has been using personal attacks towards me for no reason, and mentioning things like if I try and edit any articles that "he will have me removed from Wikipedia" saying things like that under my talk page. And if you take a look at my contributions I contribute very well and fairly to help make articles better and then this user creates this thread under the Administrators' noticeboard for zero reasons claiming that I am "trying to delete articles contributing to bad faith, and that I am being disruptive". Which you can see is clearly not true, my mission to to continue to to make meaningful contribution whereas this random user has no user page is, trying to say because of the use of their "claimed" donations they can enforce editors off the website, using personal attacks seen here calling me a clown, single handedly making edits adding certain images that are copyright violations under articles like Luca Schnetzler & Pudgy Pengins. It's safe to say that this new User @Yfjr is potentially a troll and needs to stop.
    @JustarandomamericanALT @Phil Bridger @Schazjmd @Lepricavark @CambridgeBayWeather What should I do now with this thread noticeboard that the troll @Yfjr made under my name? Thanks guys, Juli Wolfe (talk) 02:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You don't need to do anything further. It's clear that this was a frivolous report. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 03:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Obvious boomerang indef for incivility, given the diffs provided above. JustarandomamericanALT (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (after edit conflicts) I have not looked into the matter, but I must say that the amount of money that you donate to the WMF (nobody donates anything except time to Wikipedia) is both unknowable and irrelevant to an editor's presence here. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This report seems a bit exaggerated. Juli Wolfe nominated a single article for deletion, and Yfjr's only contribution to that article was adding an image. Yfjr's comments at the AfD and Juli Wolfe's talk page are overly aggressive. Schazjmd (talk) 20:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For clarity, I had warned Yfjr about personal attacks prior to their most recent edit at the AfD and this report. Philipnelson99 (talk) 20:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support boomerang indef of OP for trying to use their purported donations to influence these proceedings. Yfjr, your sense of entitlement is pathetic to those of us who have donated countless hours of our lives to this project, a far more meaningful contribution than you will ever make. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 21:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The single edit you made to Luca Schnetzler was to add an image that was a copyright violation. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello Yfjr, I must say that I simply have came across the article for "Luca Schnetzler" that was newly made simply had false information in the career part of the article, all I did was correct it. Making edits to Wikipedia you must have notable articles cited for things placed. And you decided to Report me for being disruptive? Is quite I must say outlandish. And not to mention you called me a "clown"? For what? Following the rules and making Wikipedia a better place?@Yfjr Juli Wolfe (talk) 23:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You nominated an article for deletion because you “thought” that a fact is false, when it fact it was true.
    It is shocking to see how many came to your support despite making my case very clear.
    You have not done your research on Luca Schnetzler and made a false report and nominated the article to be deleted.
    This should be punishable considering you never even took the time to review what you are reporting, thoroughly.
    It honestly embarrasses me to say I’m part of this community after seeing the few people who were quick to respond in such a haste and unfair matter.
    I will no longer be donating to Wikipedia and will be reporting all the users who took action to reverse my reports which were made in good faith.
    I’m passionate enough about Wikipedia to stand and defend articles I’m passionate about and contributed to.
    you will not take that away from me.
    You deserve to be banned for your lack of awareness and thorough research before nominating articles to be deleted @Juli Wolfe
    You are a literal danger to this platform, I am the one speaking up against you. You are not allowed to take this and turn it against me. 2001:1970:4DA3:D300:0:0:0:7C56 (talk) 17:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fairly certain this is just @Yfjr editing logged out... Philipnelson99 (talk) 17:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It honestly embarrasses me to say I’m part of this community you aren't a part of this community. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:15, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow! you are still here?.. Thinking logging out would we wouldn't know it was you... Listen this person or whoever you are working for or even if it's you paying for press WILL NOT get you on Wikipedia so you can continue trying... You are going against Wikipedia's rules!! And I wont stand for that as to why I opened up a "discussion" to see if it's notable. Since you made things worse gonna make sure you don't get it & I can definitely speculate that you are associated with that said individual in CA/LA wherever you/he is... Plus you are trying to use the use of your purported donations to go against certain rules, you thinking you are entitled to is piteous to those of us who have donated countless hours of our to actually make this website a better place. Juli Wolfe (talk) 21:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In retrospect, the hypocrisy is a little staggering. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:20, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Honestly, this whole thing felt off to me after viewing the interactions between Juli Wolfe and Yfjr. Philipnelson99 (talk) 17:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support boomerang indef. The donations' joke tipped the balance. M.Bitton (talk) 17:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hasn't this cryptospammer been blocked yet? Why not? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I blocked Yfjr indefinitely. If Yfjr hadn't attempted to vandalize someone's user page, I could see starting off with timed blocks or even warnings, but the totality is just a bit too much, I think. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:53, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The OP target has been blocked for two weeks for socking. That said, the AfD has been NAC by an obviously involved participant, for incorrect reason. (Blocked for two weeks, not banned). The way I see it the close should be undone, and the sock vote stricken. I’d do this myself but I don’t think I’ve dug deep enough into it to be 100% sure, and I’m about to disappear for 3-4 days, so if I muck it up it’ll just make it harder to rectify. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:01, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I've reopened it. As you say they were involved and the nominator was not banned. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:13, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      A short block (two weeks) for socking to vote in the same AFD is extremely generous. M.Bitton (talk) 17:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @78.26: The OP is Yfjr, not Juli Wolfe. --JBL (talk) 17:46, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Boomerang and indef Rarely are they this simple/clean. Buffs (talk) 21:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The OP is already indeffed. Did you mean someone else? LEPRICAVARK (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Nope. Was concurring with it. Buffs (talk) 16:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What's going on here?

    I'm beginning to think that this whole thing needs more eyes. Juli Wolfe's talk page access should probably be revoked since she's using it to pursue a battleground campaign against DIVINE, who merits some scrutiny as well for trying to close the Luca Schnetzler AfD despite being the article creator. Meanwhile, with Juli blocked for socking, Bhivuti45 has taken up the crusade by opening Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DIVINE and taking two of DIVINE's article creations to AfD (1, 2). Curiously, Bhivuti45 had not edited in two months prior to wading into the middle of this dispute. At this point, it's not clear which of these editors, if any, are acting in good faith. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Well, I havent checked up on Bhivuti45, but I'm pretty sure that none of the other protagonists are editing in good faith. The fact that Juli Wolfe has been blocked for sockpuppetry doesn't mean that Yfjr and DIVINE have been cleared of any wrongdoing. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    They seem to be parrying accusations of socking, meatpuppetry, and UPE back and forth. Maybe they are all guilty. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 19:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is honestly extremely worrying as there is a lot of missing context. Both articles are clearly notable and were instated at the same time.
    The user @juli wolfe saw something in the article that she didn’t approve of.
    then she nominated the article for deletion falsely.
    this is what caused this whole ordeal.
    editors should not be harassed whatsoever and these things need to be resolved more amicably. 199.7.157.86 (talk) 20:16, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, the article subjects are not "clearly" notable so there is no fault attached to nominating them for AfD, which is where things are usually resolved amicably. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You can bump up the article i don’t have any issue but as a creator of the article its my responsibility to defend them. If it weren’t notable or didn’t seem to be notable i would have not created those articles. But the act which i have been around and the mental pressure which i am handling without any wrongdoings is really not that good. I cannot agree on upe just because of someone’s personal assumptions again and again if i haven’t especially done UPE and yes i also don’t know what’s going on here and why this personal attack on me. DIVINE 04:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And about closing the AFD discussion: Yes maybe i did mistake there which i can agree on and two wikipedians told me about that i closed because the sock were block but i forgot to check the word where i was involved. I close that on good faith but another editor re-opened it which i don’t have any problem with. And about good faith i have contributed alot of my time to wikipedia while fighting with vandalism or reviewing new pages which i got award of too. But due to some dispute on ANI my NPR was revoked long back and due to that circumstances i asked my Rollback and PCR to be revoked. Thankyou if anyone need to know anything you can ping me now i will just be in peace with my personal life. Have a good day DIVINE 04:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    DIVINE, every day I review dozens of AFDs and while I know it is not a good feeling to have an article you created nominated for a deletion discussion, I'd estimate that 95% of the time it is not personal. An editor stumbles upon an article that they don't believe meets the standards of sourcing demonstrating notability which is expected of main space articles. That other 5% is when an editor notices that there is a possible problem with an editor's page creations and does target their articles for review but that is not what happened here. I don't know anything about your "personal life" and why you have brought that up or your revoked permissions or why you think a discussion on two blocked editors is a personal attack on you. Editors were saying that you shouldn't have closed that AFD but you were not the subject of the discussion here. It's fine to defend an article you created in a deletion discussion but this AN discussion was about two other editors (and possibly some IPs) and I thought had reached a natural conclusion was going to be archived soon until your recent comments. In a roundabout way, you admit that the AFD closing wasn't a good idea and so, if I were you, I'd step away from this noticeboard and go back to your own editing routine. If you were seeking support from your fellow editors on your work, AN/ANI is the last place I'd go to find that. Liz Read! Talk! 06:04, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • DIVINE has been a paid editor since oh so long ago. This just looks like rival UPE farms fighting, if you ask me. One of the editors DIVINE was coordinating with once upon a time, Ozar77, was determined to belong to the Vivek.k.Verma farm. Which group DIVINE belongs to or if they belong to any group, I do not know. But they have created articles for Nepalese subjects, Indian subjects and Western subjects. Now, that can happen with actors and musicians, sure, but minor businesses and businesspeople? I see that they even tried their hand at declaring one of their clients. What a coincidence that the one editor I had been accusing of UPE for five years happened to get a paid job! The harassment of OP with socks and IPs sounds familiar. The last time DIVINE was trying to get me removed from Wikipedia[1], there was an off wiki campaign to find out my identity with assistance from journalists and Nepali Wikipedia admins.(still live:[2][3][4][5],[6]) If you noticed that one of those gentlemen was named Prakash Neupane, you might find these interesting:[7][8] You may also want to search for "Prakash Neupane" at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gaurav456/Archive. Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • There's surely enough here to CU compare Yfjr with DIVINE. You will note that, when I was taken to ANI back in 2019 by DIVINE, it was over my dispute with Ozar77, not DIVINE. Who knows why? Maybe they just forgot to switch accounts.[9] — Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Doxing is a big NO! If you have any further evidence regarding socking, please post at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DIVINE. Regards, Bhivuti45 (talk) 17:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        That's... not doxing. Sheesh. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Right, a failed doxing attempt[10][11]. Bhivuti45 (talk) 07:10, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        My mistake. I thought you were accusing Usedtobecool of doxing. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 15:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Lepricavark@ I am sorry you had this feeling but I am not here to carry a crusade against DIVINE or anyone else. I genuinely stumbled upon his AfD and shocked to see such a promotional article about a non-notable individual was created by an experienced editor like DIVINE. That was a red flag so I asked him to use AfC. Then Juli Wolfe pinged me on their talk page and provided me with the diffs. That grew my interest and I am pretty sure Yfjr is a sock and there may be more. So, far I only opened AfD for 2 of his articles that I think are not passing the criteria and opened a SPI case and informed about UPE on the Spam Talk page. If you find anything problematic then let me know. Bhivuti45 (talk) 17:45, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Your first edit back after a 2-month absence is timestamped at 18:47 29 March. You voted in the Schnetlzer AfD at 18:53, having already concluded that it was a UPE creation. Within three minutes, you were draftifying the Pudgy Penguins article. Now I'm aware that coincidences do happen from time to time, but your claim that you just happened to stumble across those pages is stretching the limits of my AGF beyond the breaking point. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I cannot help with that, sorry because what I did so far based on my findings, align with the guidelines. You are free to report me if you think I acted in bad faith. However, I am finding it surprising that a frivolous thread was open by a seemingly sock @Yfjr (after 7 years of absence) and now what @Usedtobecool has posted with diffs, specially[12] and [13], they don't merits some scrutiny for closing a AfD but a lot more for possible violation of Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use given the coordination with other UPE farms that are already blocked. Bhivuti45 (talk) 07:04, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Bhivuti has suddenly become very interested in AFD, participating in 36 different AFD discussions over the past 3 days despite never having participated in one before. (afd stats). Their participation speed indicates to me that they are highly unlikely to be interacting with sources, which is reflected in the bulk of their AFD comments being a couple words, saying that an article fails a guideline without saying how. [14] occurs 60 seconds after [15], [16] 69 seconds later, [17] 46 seconds after that, [18] 44 seconds later, followed by the Schnetzler AFD [19] 2 minutes and 34 seconds later. ~ A412 talk! 07:19, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Indeed, I am interested in AfDs now but I do check the sources, not in all cases but in some cases when I feel it is necessary after looking at the article's contents, for instance[20] or [21] etc. Bhivuti45 (talk) 07:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      This might be my last response here at AN per @Liz: suggestion while there’s many thing going on here and @Usedtobecool: have already concluded that there’s enough to CU me & YFJR or something whil SPI case is still pending against me and CU are checking. Usedtobecool filed SPI against me so long back, usedtobecool do have their own list of WP:RS Nepali sources which hasn’t been passed by anyone neither Wikiproject Nepal nor WP:RS (like that any editor from Nepal can come and claim the source to be eligible as most of them are in Nepali language). Still @Usedtobecool: is trying to connect with me somewhere or with someone per their personal assumption/opinion ( please listen to me again personal opinion) which can be seen here[22] while @UtherSRG: has responded them. While everyone is arguing here i want you all to check into deep about the previous contributions of Bhivuti45 and the articles they have created and the way they went missing after multiple users and administrators warn them to disclose their COI/UPE without any response & @GSS: might be watching out those problems mostly on Wikipedia. As @LEPRICAVARK: notified me on my talk page, i came here to response from my end. Also Bivhuti have filed case against me on wiki project Spam where i have provided link to their COI warnings before[23]. If administrators want to know something from me further please ping me or if I still feel suspicious to you: You can take any action which is preferable according to Wikipedia policy against me. Thankyou DIVINE 12:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      PS: Take “Arguing” as “Discussion/Discussing” DIVINE 12:55, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I just want to leave it beacause i don't want too much mental presuree and my anxiety is not helping me DIVINE 17:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • So, what seems like the most likely explanation here is a turf war between at least two different UPE rings/purveyors. Overall, Bhivuti45's participation seems like a mostly WP:GOODHAND account which on March 29, 2024 decided to participate frantically at AfD and to chase after DIVINE. I am on the fence about a wikispace partial-block to head off the disruption at AfD. signed, Rosguill talk 19:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I honestly was looking at Bhivutui45 earlier and thought the same thing. I think a partial block isn't a bad idea. Philipnelson99 (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Is there a compelling reason why an admin shouldn't just indef Bhivutui45? LEPRICAVARK (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      At first glance I was under the impression that some of the gnome/referencing work they had done in article space was ok, but on a closer look I'm seeing that the reference work looks questionable (e.g. Special:Diff/728934564) and that there are fairly clear UPE articles sprinkled throughout in their deleted contributions (Allegiant (finance services), Jesu Segun London, Emmessar Biotech & Nutrition Ltd, Byron Cole). Blocking indef as UPE. signed, Rosguill talk 14:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    DIVINE and Tulsi: COI/UPE/quid-pro-quo editing, association with threats and harassment

    DIVINE (talk · contribs · block log · change rights · rights · deleted contribs · logs)
    Tulsi (talk · contribs · block log · change rights · rights · deleted contribs · logs)
    The oldest account I've identified for DIVINE is Dansong22 (talk · contribs · logs) ([24][25]). Dansong22 created an article for Arun Budhathoki[26]. Then, they created an article for The Applicant many times[27]. It was apparently an online magazine founded by Arun Budhathoki[28]. They stopped editing in July 2013, but they were still trying to protect the Arun Budhathoki article only weeks before[29]. They were evidently successful as the articles remained until 2019[30][31].
    They came back with the DIVINE account, previously Azkord and Owlf, in June 2014 because they had found an actual paid-editing job: promoting Kenneth Beck (the deleted version)[32][33]. They created articles on Kenneth Beck[34] and CEO Connection[35], founded by Kenneth Beck[36]. Note that they're doing the same things previously attempted by CEOConnection (talk · contribs · logs), an obvious paid editor and SPA. On the same job were SPAs Salvatore.emery (talk · contribs · logs) and Radicaldoubt (talk · contribs · logs), around the same time and after. Xtools also lists CEO Connection Mid-Market Convention, CEO Connection Mid-Market Awards and CEO Connection Mid-Market 500, created within the same week. Next article that may be worth looking into is SkillBridge (deleted version), the last article they created that July before all but disappearing.
    Ozar77 (talk · contribs · logs) appears on the scene in October 2016. They create Anna Note, which was "[t]he digital newspaper ... looked by its senior correspondents, Brabim Karki and Arun Budhathoki" (see en.everybodywiki(dot)com/Anna_Note). They then create, in order, Brabim Karki, the aforementioned senior correspondent, Rameshwor Thapa, employer of Karki and Budhathoki[37], Annapurna Media Network, the parent organisation, Kathmandu Tribune, a "digital newspaper" whose editor-in-chief is Arun Budhathoki (see now blacklisted kathmandutribune(dot)com/about/), Nepal Tribune Media, the organisation founded by Arun Budhathoki that owns Kathmandu Tribune, and Nepali Tribune the Nepali language version of Kathmandu Tribune if I remember correctly. In November 2019, they accept paid-editing job for the Vivek K Verma UPE farm and are promptly indeffed as a sock of theirs.
    Gaurav456 (talk · contribs · logs) came to Wikipedia to write about Gaurav Adhikari and Y8.com. But of note is their persistence with Prakash Neupane, first created in May 2015 probably[38] and still live in draftspace, which is mentioned 15 times at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Gaurav456/Archive. It's plausible that Prakash Neupane socks are a different case from Gaurav456 socks[39] but I will refer them as Gaurav456 anyway because it doesn't make a difference. Gaurav456 sock SeytX (talk · contribs · logs) nominates some of those Ozar77 articles for deletion in February 2018.[40][41][42][43][44] There are no related live edits by Ozar77 during this incident, but it does bring DIVINE out of semi-retirement. They respond to the AFD notification for Kathmandu Tribune on Ozar77's talk page within two minutes of it being posted[45]. They edit-war to remove an AFD template, characterising Nepali Tribune Media as independent media, calling its nomination an attack, and in general taking great personal offence at the suggestion that it should be deleted[46], and say the very same about Kathmandu Tribune[47]. Their participation in the AFDs was somehow worse[48][49]. See also the full thread at [[50]]. They are next seen in December 2018 in a hat-collecting run, doing anti-vandalism work and writing legitimate articles, which pays off spectacularly as they are by 9 January 2019, rollbacker, pending changes reviewer and new page reviewer, though not autopatrolled[51].
    Meanwhile, Gaurav456 has given up on Prakash Neupane as their attempt to come clean and get unblocked fails and their sockpuppet investigation stops receiving new reports. Instead they're keeping their nose clean with NecessaryEdits (talk · contribs · logs)[52]. The February 2018 targeting of Arun Budhathoki articles by Gaurav456 starts to makes sense in December 2018; by all indications, Gaurav456 is out and DIVINE is in.[53] DIVINE has an advantage; they can get Prakash Neupane covered by Kathmandu Tribune. Prakash Neupane himself is an editor for Kathmandu Tribune now (see kathmandutribune(dot)com/author/prakash/]. DIVINE is still at it at Draft:Prakash Neupane. It's been created and deleted so many times in between, even I gave up at one point, though thankfully not Praxidicae.[54]
    In June 2019, while I was still figuring things out, I found myself in opposition to DIVINE, having found Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nepal Tribune Media (2nd nomination) from watching deletion sorting for Nepal. On 6 June, Arun Budhathoki tweets attacking me(speaking from memory, the tweet is now_restricted) and DIVINE reports me to ANI the same day (see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1011#Account_compromised_and_User_Should_be_checked_clearly.). Prakash Neupane responds to the twitter conversation assuring that he will have Wikimedia Nepal find out and disclose my identity[55]. Evidently that didn't work out. There are some troubling aspects about how Nepalese Wikimedians, including those receiving salaries, grants and scholarships, operate. See, for example, Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/1990 Nepalese revolution. But, I am focusing on Tulsi's conduct here, who on 7 June, the same day as that tweet from Neupane, meets him in person to take his pictures[56][57]. They'd done the same in the past[58] and do so again in the future[59] While Tulsi has gone on to add Neupane's pictures to ten Wikipedias that have his article, not missing even a stray userspace draft on enWP[60], DIVINE has tried to repay with Tulsi's very own article on the English Wikipedia[61]. Tulsi was caught doing UPE work, creating previously known UPE articles, advertising his Wikipedia services on social media and using the NPR right to exclusively pass articles from one UPE editor who's since been blocked. After he was caught, on initiative from enWP, his global sysop and global rollbacker PERMs were removed. However, he continues to edit here, under no restriction against, for example, participating in marginal AFDs or the project space, and he remains admin at Commons, meta, mediawiki, neWP and maiWP, and irl agent for WMF and WMF scholarship awardee.
    DIVINEs interactions with other editors leave much to be desired; ANI and threats of ANI are constant.[62][63][64] And they continue to waste volunteer time with the likes of Sandip Bista (Mr. D), Paul Hernandez (musician), Sangita Swechcha[65], Scott Woodward (marketer) (we're starting to look silly with this one)[66], Luca Schnetzler and Pudgy Penguins. After I posted here earlier, I received a cryptic message from Bangkok[67], a city which has no conceivable reason to care about me except for the fact that Prakash Neupane goes/went to university there[68][69] (DIVINE has created Bongkosh Rittichainuwat, Ozar77 had created 2019 Bangkok bombings). Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ANI and AN are the options where we can go through. This is not your first attempt to link with me to that above gentleman in your own words and SPI has been closed. You requested that ANI to be closed fast and still you’re behind me after 4-5 years. DIVINE 03:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Usedtobecool: just few days back you concluded me with YFJR now Tulsi & i request you to file SPI again it might work with your personal assumptions. Run Xtool and check the pages that i have created (in your own words it might be like i have COI or UPE) with them all? DIVINE 03:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In 2019, I tried without knowing much about how anything works. This time I've got the problem that much of the evidence is in deleted pages. DIVINE, I promise you, if nothing comes of this one, I will leave you alone, I might even leave Wikipedia. Twice in 5 years isn't too many to raise concerns about paid editing, I'm hoping. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Usedtobecool: FYi: you are really good editor here in Wikipedia which Nepalese community needs and i request you not to leave Wikipedia and this is not any personal attack and you don’t have to leave me alone neither you have to favor me of anything here. Last year/two years back i was about to leave Wikipedia and still i can leave as i do have many works and many things with my own personal life where i am too much busy. I asked User:Primefac to block me and asked them can I start fresh and they said they cannot do anything later if i will face CU. Let me clarify Dansong isn’t me. So below i would state my personal opinion or debate as per your above personal opinion.
    I am into the research field, and I never wanted or want to reveal my identity. Now, thanks to you, my path is clearer. You might know me as your professor, your boss, or someone you've disliked for a long time (none of which is me). Someone dragged me to SPI just because of voting to AFD, whether it was my AFD or previous AGD, both are one. You also voted on Mr. Gentleman's delete discussion, even though User:Suryabeej argued that I was Mr. Gentleman. Looking at your links above, Mr. Gentleman's Facebook profile indicates that he also studied at Harvard Medical School. If you received a cryptic message from Bangkok or Mars, I cannot help you with that. And what's the difference between Mr. Neupane, Mr. Budhathoki, and you? They discussed their own personal assumptions a few years back according to the aforementioned link provided by you, and now you're discussing them here on Wikipedia, mentioning their names multiple times. Why don't you email them to let them know they are being discussed here? Is Wikipedia/AN a public forum? And still, your reliable source list hasn't been approved by any of Wikiproject Nepal and WP:RS. In this whole conversation, what I can agree with you on is that yes, Wikipedia Nepal does have a gang, they have their own groups which they apply in their own communities, something I complained about before if you research in more depth. DIVINE 04:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    DIVINE, none of your story explains anything in the evidence I presented above. But maybe it will convince others, because you should have been blocked in 2012, more so in 2013, and absolutely, definitely by 2014, yet you're still here. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:58, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Look how you much rage you have against me i wasn’t even here in 2012 and i didn’t even knew what Wikipedia was. Review,revise your own texts above before you concluded me as SPI of YFJR now you’re providing many things which i don’t even know and i am just laughing here (which i can only do). I will rest leave it to admins and i would like to request @UtherSRG: please provide them with deleted materials for their in-depth research against me. And @Usedtobecool: please take time to check on User:Bibhuti too they also appeared like same as you appeared few years back if someone will check on your history. Hence i have requested admin to help you with your research here. If someone wants something please ping me thankyou. DIVINE 05:10, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no interest in this. Please stop mentioning me. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There's something definitely going on with Prakash Neupane. I noticed in the 3rd AfD a respected editor voted keep in part because sources said Neupane had 2 million YouTube views. There is one song he did with others that has 1.4 million views but the links to his social media accounts go to accounts that no longer exist. Looking at his YouTube channel today, he has 46 subscribers and the video with the most views is only 1.5k. He says "This is the new channel of Prakash Neupane as the old channel got deleted". The only link to his other social media accounts listed, which are different from the ones in the song above, that works is Facebook. The others go to accounts that no longer exist. Also, his website in Draft:Prakash Neupane, which is a different address than the one used on his YouTube channel, does not work. S0091 (talk) 15:53, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Man after reading all of this I can see how much of a problem @DIVINE on this space breaking guidelines and continuing to get away with it. And no administrators doing nothing about is, soon his day will come. 2601:589:4E00:BE40:AD42:7786:D3A0:9ED7 (talk) 15:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Usedtobecool: I am your Mr. Gentelman and i am Prakash Neupane. Admin please take action against me. DIVINE 16:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @DIVINE I noticed you just now requested G7 deletion (since reverted) for Justin Jin (entrepreneur) but that was created by @Deondernemers: (will also leave them a note). Are you saying you are Deondernemers?
    For those following (or trying to), see also WT:Administrators' noticeboard#I am Prakash Neupane. S0091 (talk) 17:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No but there is huge UPE farm out of wikipedia they asked me to join them which i denied an i do have proof of it. I am Prakash Neupane but leat me clarify i have never used any additional account. DIVINE 17:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In light of the above, either DIVINE's account has been hacked, or they're a long-term self-promoting editor with possible UPE and sockpuppetry as well. Either way, an indefinite block is appropriate recourse, so I've done that. I have not closely investigated accusations against any other editors at this time. signed, Rosguill talk 17:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you @Rosguill. I have no idea what's going on here but I think this was a sensible call on your part. Philipnelson99 (talk) 18:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I managed to edit-conflict with Ivanvector while applying the block; separately, Ivanvector ruled out the possibility of a compromised account, and also identified a salient legal and outing threat by DIVINE. So we're still in indef-land. Because the legal/outing block can easily be appealed with a simple disavowal, it bears mentioning that DIVINE's admission of being Prakash Neupane is tantamount to an admission of extensive amounts of undisclosed self-promotion, and likely collusion with UPE farms and/or less organized sockpuppetry, and that a successful unblock appeal must address all of these concerns. signed, Rosguill talk 18:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This also raises some serious questions about @Tulsi who clearly knows Prakash Neupane but has not yet responded. S0091 (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is the ANI filing that just keeps on giving apparently. Philipnelson99 (talk) 18:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is anyone opposed to just indefinitely blocking Tulsi for the essentially-unresolved UPE concerns, described on meta where they resulted in a loss of global rights, and at User_talk:Tulsi/Archive_2#Paid_editing where they were left hanging other than Barkeep49 following up on everything to remove advanced permissions here. Now, strictly speaking, no one has presented new evidence of UPE since then; the collaboration with Prakash to add new photos of him to wikipedia projects carrying an article of him is relatively tame as far as actual editing goes, even if it is evidence of incredibly poor judgment. But, given the past behavior and the wikiflu, I don't know whether this much benefit of the doubt is warranted. Even if we decide against blocking here, we should notify the various projects where he still holds advanced permissions once we come to a decision here. signed, Rosguill talk 18:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rosguill I'm not opposed to this based on everything you just described and the above. Philipnelson99 (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Having said that, I'd like to hear what @Barkeep49 thinks. Philipnelson99 (talk) 18:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd have to review too much information to say what I think. I do remember being quite upset at the time, which is why I took the actions I did around their NPR patrolling and their permissions. Barkeep49 (talk) 18:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Given the history and ongoing concerns, I support blocking. Indef is not forever if they can make an convincing unblock request. S0091 (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I definitely support blocking indefinitely and don’t change it. This guy has been creating paid articles for years thinking he was going to get away with it, and then being cocky about creating sock accounts and then making remarks like “I can literally get you banned off of Wikipedia”, And looking at his history he has many current paid articles that needs to be in the process of deletion because none of the articles there are reliable. 2601:589:4E00:BE40:8946:F528:3975:8678 (talk) 19:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    His page curation log should have been entirely enough for an indef, as far as I am concerned. But we had divided concerns then, and no threads at AN/I. He also comes here in bursts. And other projects have no interest in doing anything about him. Even the WMF seems to be flying him off to their conferences still, so... rot from the head or something. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 19:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Per the above discussion, I've blocked and opened a discussion on metawiki. Based on past experience with metawiki admin recalls, I expect that it may be beneficial to write a Signpost article about this to encourage participation, as the other RfC about other-project admins doing UPE currently hasn't received any participation other than from involved parties. signed, Rosguill talk 19:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah @DIVINE has done so much unfaithful contributions to Wikipedia with doing undisclosed payments under the table making articles that have no reliable sources. His actions were so pathetic and glad that justice has been served for those that has been involved because I have been seeing everything these past days and no one should be accused of false wrongdoings. Great job on the administrators for the consistent effort for making this a better place for editors. 2601:589:4E00:BE40:8946:F528:3975:8678 (talk) 20:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just catching up with the twists and turns of this long discussion thread. And now I'm very depressed. But I do applaud the diligence of editors like Usedtobecool who somehow kept track of all of this misconduct that occurred over years of editing. I'm sorry for what you've had to go through. I've been doxxed (twice) and it's not an idle threat when it is directed at you. Liz Read! Talk! 06:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am sorry to hear that happened to you, Liz! I feel like quitting even contemplating the possibility. And thank you, it did take me a lot of time; I rarely investigate and write up ANI reports so long (you can probably tell). I have been careful about my anonymity from the beginning, but of course there are no guarantees. It caused me irrational stress for a moment when they said they'd reported me to the Police, because in Nepal, they arrest first, investigate later. But I don't think WMF will betray me that easy; I hear good things, at least regarding this particular issue. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    To be blunt...

    1. Contributions from an anonymous IP who suddenly jumps in to WP:AN smacks of someone who is blocked trying to inject their thoughts. Whether it is someone who is block evading stemming from actions prior mentioned in this section or from somewhere else, I'm basically going to discount those opinions, but I'll listen to anyone in good standing who agrees with those thoughts.
    2. An SPI for DIVINE would be appropriate to see if there are problems elsewhere. I concur with the block as well based on the aforementioned notes; if nothing else, it is preventative and a break will not hurt things in the long run. Buffs (talk) 15:23, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I 100% agree on both points. I am especially concerned about the IPs contributing to this conversation with little or no prior editing at all. Philipnelson99 (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • UTRS appeal #87097 is open. For your consideration, DIVINE is requesting unblock on UTRS. Thanks-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      In their first UTRS appeal which they pretty clearly did not write themselves, they mentioned that they emailed me. They did not. In their second one that's linked above they mention emailing an admin, that also wasn't me but I'm not sure what they meant, their English is not great. I have not corresponded with them off-wiki, anyway. I did not see evidence of socking when I checked yesterday, but checkuser cannot prove a negative. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      He's said, he's reported me to the Police. So, that needs to be resolved. He needs to explain his relationship with Arun Budhathoki, his friends and businesses. He has claimed to be Prakash Neupane—who's borderline famous—and done a lot of things that may be unflattering, so he needs to get verified, or we risk BLP harm through impersonation. He's claimed to have received payments for AFD votes, so he needs to be topic banned from mainspace and AFDs. His threatening behaviour needs to be addressed. He needs to explain quid pro quo editing with Tulsi outlined above. He needs to make many COI/PAID disclosures. He's claimed he knows multiple other editors are UPEs, and has evidence of such. It would seem important to get that evidence from him, and not unblock him until we get proof for every accusation, or they remain aspersions and harassment. It would also be important to make sure he doesn't OUT anyone if unblocked and uses private channels. Why does he want to get unblocked? We didn't arrive to a block here from my evidence directly. He imploded before others had responded. Clearly, he wanted to quit then and was burning bridges on his way out. Has he decided within days that undisclosed paid editing is bad, and now he is a complete convert to our mission? If he starts writing more articles that look paid, what will we do, wait for definitive proof that he's been paid again? — Usedtobecool ☎️ 01:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I told him in a UTRS ticket to email any evidence of UPE to the PAID people. If someone could look and see if there are replies on the UTRS 87097 ticket that need attention, I'm off for the weekend. Or maybe someone could action the 87097. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Much has transpired since last I posted. I will carry over from their talk the most recent and perhaps from the UTRS ticket. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Legal threat is resolved on user talk. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:55, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unblock request carried over from DIVINE's user talk

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    "Please check UTRS appeal #87097 too as my TPA was revoked before. Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user:usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou. DIVINE 4:53 pm, Yesterday (UTC−4)"--  Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    
    UTRS appeal #87097. It's too convoluted to carry here and rehashes ground already covered. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    UTRS appeal #87097 pasted contents, only minimal formatting
    I want to request my account to be unblocked because: 1. I have accepted my mistake of self-promoting myself (which i consider as a biggest mistake which i ever made but i tried to hide because i didn’t wanted to reveal my identity) but creating autbiography was my bad. 2. I have created few UPE articles, few COI articles which i accepted but to show the proof or verify them i don’t have much evidence so i can’t blame me much but during off wiki communications with a admin who didn’t reveal their identity, they suggested me to keep those in my mind. 3. I am willing to disclose all the paid works or COI previously done by me which are just few in numbers and most of them are already deleted or about to get deleted anyway. 4. I didn’t threatened to post public information on User:Usedtobecool but i mentioned that i might/know them but i wont dox their identity as doxing is big no which is OS’d now but can be checked by any reviewing administrator. To note: 1. I have never missued my previous rights being NPR, Rollbacker or PCR and my efforts to fight vandalism should be atleast remembered/recognzied. 2. We all make mistakes and the mistake was a legal threat but that only came in my mind because User:Otucha used word killing and User:Usedtobecool mentioned my facebook profile, my university name on ongoing discussion multiple times at AN to the public which i felt was doxing. 3. I quited arguments and accepted that it was me with all of myself where the topic was quite different about the connection. 4. My connection with user:Tulsi has been shared to the admin who communicated with me on off-wiki via email which i provided on User:Usedtobecool talk page which was OS’d and i created their draft only because they used to ping me every time to create their draft which i ignored most of the time but at last i submitted on Draft space. 5. I have been on wikipedia since 10 years at the age of 16 and i tried to learn but i started being active with contribution mostly and the starting articles which i created were the act of learning phase and i have never ever missused or use multiple accounts or has violated Sockpuppet policy. I have been reported to SPI multiple times but nothing has been proven yet but still checkusers can re-check from depth. To conclude myself: I want to apologize to the community for my numerous mistakes which i did, i had done before and i will try to avoid or not to do in future but cleaning up draftspace, checking upon new articles, fighting with vandalism were my favorite work if i get a chance i will be back and continue doing that. I also think in deep about Spicy comment before and declining suggestions but we all learn from our mistakes, we are human beings. Please also check the articles which i have created for the community and the time and effort which i have given to the community. I have given my almost half of the age while volunteering here at community and i would like to continue doing that without any afraidness of getting caught or without being afraid of revealing my identity which has been already done by others and by me myself. Thankyou very much for re-considering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DIVINE (talkcontribs)
    No one threatened to kill you. Perhaps your ability to understand English is insufficient.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepfriedokra (talkcontribs)
    Additionally: User:Tulsi personally requested and ask my photos to send them for commons purposes. I sent them with my willingness before. I also want to clarify that i have never met them in personal life but yes has communicated via social media.
    In my first UTRS appeal i wrote it myself than asked ChatGPT to rewrite it in grammatical order which i often does to make my grammatical error clearer. I got the email same time after getting blocked from name Suka Ratom which was quite different but this was it and they claimed to be an investigator and they also mentioned they cannot reveal their identity but while they sent me email it was written IVAN so i thought it was Ivanvector.: Hi, Thank you for providing an avenue to discuss with you off-wiki. I'm curious — could you submit any and all evidence to me here? Appreciated. Ivan
    Additionally here is another part of their email who called themselves Suka Ratom on email: By gang, do you mean a UPE group? Could you provide evidence that User:Otuọcha has threatened you? Otuọcha has brought on issues but that is a problem for a different forum. The reason I am contacting you via email is to remain anonymous. I'm sorry, but we can't disclose much as this is an on-going investigation.
    Just to note that most of the users to whom my tagged at COI notice has been found using multiple accounts and has been blocked by CU. About legal threats I have personally apologized user: usedtobecool about my actions and behavior. About their all concerns which they mentioned on AN I have made them clear that I haven’t filed any official complaint against them anywhere and will not do that also you can verify that in my talk page. Also, I request you to note that whenever I get into AN my anxiety level rises too much which I had also mentioned in AN. While user: Bivhuti45 was dragging me off being a sock puppet and was making personal attacks at me, I requested admins to check them out multiple times but finally rogusill has blocked them too due to their UPE and ignoring multiple COI warnings. Also, I cannot deny that I haven’t made mistakes. I Have done many, but I want to contribute further to keep those mistakes in my mind and disclosing all of my previous coi/upe editing which I have done. Please consider my unblock request thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DIVINE (talkcontribs)
    You have an open appeal of this block on your user talk page on Wikipedia, which means your appeal will be handled there. Please be sure to monitor your talk page for updates on the status of your block appeal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamla (talkcontribs)
    • Decline with the option to enact the WP:standard offer. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline. Other issues aside, DIVINE's English fluency looks to be insufficient to edit productively here. I am not impressed with the intelligibility of their comments at Special:Diff/1217936829#Unblock, in particular the comments beneath the unblock request. Apologies if this sounds harsh. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      They want me to copy over the UTRS ticket. Please. Somebody. Anybody that wants to. It looks like a big mess to me. And people will hate me if I do that. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I will do so. --Yamla (talk) 20:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline their comments are too difficult to parse, and at this point it is impossible to trust them. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 21:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline per Novem, Lepricavark, and at the pace that they've been pinging participants of this discussion, removing TPA again may be in order. Also noting that they've sent me two unsolicited emails via the Wikipedia interface--I have not bothered to read them. signed, Rosguill talk 21:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline per all of the above. Rosquill's point about unsolicited emails and pinging participants of this discussion is worrisome to me and indicates to me nothing about this editor's conduct would change if they were unblocked. Philipnelson99 (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      There may be replies at User talk:DIVINE#Unblock which I do not understand, that might be worth looking at. Or they might be something else. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Another " Suka Ratom" reference, whoever that might be. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah, those confused me too... Philipnelson99 (talk) 23:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Tentatively decline Without some clarity, I'm not seeing a reason to unblock at this time. I think a specific timeframe should be given rather than indef if the editor in question would like to come back. He seems to be willing to engage and change. 1 week? 1 month? 3 months? 1 year? WP:standard offer after that per UtherSRG. Buffs (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Is the standard offer or a time-limited block a good fit in this situation? This editor may have WP:CIR (language fluency) and WP:UPE issues. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Novem Linguae the WP:UPE issues alone make me feel wary of a time-limited block and the standard offer in this case. Philipnelson99 (talk) 14:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      SO doesn't mean they would automatically come back; it just means that we won't look at their unblock request for a minimum of six months, in which time they will have to demonstrate their improvement via work elsewhere. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I understand that. I'm just saying in this situation I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the SO. Philipnelson99 (talk) 14:42, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      After thinking about it a few minutes, I think I agree with you @UtherSRG on giving the SO after the requisite amount of time. Philipnelson99 (talk) 14:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Both CIR and UPE can be overcome in time; their fluency can improve, which will help CIR, and they can divest from UPE issues and edit for the love of editing. Hence, the standard offer applies as that's the earliest reasonable showing for that kind of improvement. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I'm strongly opposed to reducing the block to a specific timeframe. This editor will need to do a lot of work to convince us that they can overcome their CIR issues, not to mention their UPE untrustworthiness. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 15:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline, time sink who lacks the English-language competence to edit here, as the convoluted replies to the unblock indicate. Coupled with longterm PAID issues, SO is the least time that should be considered. Star Mississippi 23:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Decline, Agree that DIVINE can barely speak the English language with many typos while on here, and has numerous amount of PAID articles that he done for undisclosed amounts under the table. Here it is in plain sight. Juli Wolfe (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      (Non-administrator comment) Maybe you should sit this one out Juli Wolfe and let others resolve it. You yourself were blocked for two weeks per WP:SOCK because you somehow thought it would OK to create another account to WP:!Vote multiple times in the AfD for an article created by DIVINE. Then, instead of reflecting on why you were blocked and learning from your mistake as you were advised to do by Liz on your user talk page, you continued trying to advocate/make a case against DIVINE and get others to do things on your behalf. Once DIVINE was blocked you made it known that you were happy on your user talk page even though you were still under block (you did self-revert that post a few days later), and then after you were unblocked you felt it was necessary to post this and this at User talk:DIVINE, where you gave DIVINE a {{Kitten}} and interestingly advised them to Learn from this experience. You're, however, correct with respect to the But as you know the saying, "Everything comes full circle". comment you posted on DIVINE's user talk page and this is which is why you probably need to step back not, have faith in the process and let others resolve this from hereon. You've been given a second chance that many blocked for sock puppetry do not often get. Let go of all the WP:DRAMA associated with this matter. If additional input is needed from you, someone will surely let you know. If you don't and continue on as before, you might find yourself on the end of a WP:BOOMERANG block. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC); [Note: Posted edited by Marchjuly to add an important word (the underlined "not") mistakenly left out of the fourth to last sentence of the post. -- 22:58, 11 April 2024 (UTC)][reply]
      Well said. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 22:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    Messy CopyVio History

    So Roberto Sabatini has a long history and I'm not sure what would be the right version to revert to since most of the content seems to be copypasted from here Q T C 22:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @OverlordQ you might want to list it at the WP:Copyright problems board using {{copyvio}} so editors can assess and remove any violations. – Isochrone (talk) 09:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request Review of Topic Ban imposed by Novem Linguae

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    I request a review of this closure by @Novem Linguae:.

    The allegations made were (A) Forum Shopping and (B) a refusal to drop the stick on Tim Hunt. Allegations were made by involved editors unsupported by evidence, reference to my contribution history shows them to be untrue. 2 other editors supported that allegation also without reference to any evidence of misconduct. 1 editor cited one of my comments as evidence of bad faith.

    [70] My contribution history on Tim Hunt. 100% of it reverted. 0.7% of all contributions on the article.

    Note: [71] {{npov}} tag added 13 March 2024, [72] single revert to restore. [73] 25 March 2024 - one single edit adding context and information in WP:RS per WP:NPOV. That is all of my contributions to the article.

    [74] My contribution history on Talk:Tim Hunt.

    Note: [75] 13 March 2024 - comment on NPOV tags, [76] 17 March 2024 - [77] Further comment, 25 March 2024 - Comment on revert of my contribution. I had not made any comment in talk since 12th February.

    Since 12th February, I've made 3 comments in talk, 1 contribution to the article in total. This is hardly the actions of someone who can't drop the stick.

    In talk, I raised concerns over the neutrality of edits in the context of a WP:BLP. Comments that the closer of the RFC noted were valid concerns [78] I am specifically mentioned in the close.

    I have not raised the topic of Tim Hunt in any forum. I raised a tangential issue that {{npov}} tags were being removed by edit warring at WP:ANI on 13th March. I can't link a diff because the edit has been oversighted [79].

    The allegations made are demonstrably false.

    As regards, the accusation of bad faith [80] That took a talk quote taken out of context, which was a response to [81], where the editors responsible for the RFC indicate they do not feel the need to respond to the closer's comments. Reference to misogyny is not my comment but for example [82] he's just another misogynist. Further I did not oppose the RFC but complimented the closer on a difficult close in the circumstances.

    I have in fact, already committed to disengage on Tim Hunt. My concerns ref WP:BLP are shared by @Isaidnoway:, @Fiveby:, @Elemimele:,@Springee: and @Nemov:. I note the concern expressed by Isaidnoway I believe there are legitimate BLP concerns as well about the Hunt article, but after seeing the way Thomas B has been treated in this whole shameful debacle, I'm afraid to say anything for fear of proposals like this being thrown my way. This was also my motivation for disengaging. I am concerned of the chilling effect that an editor can receive a topic ban without evidence of misconduct; assessing consensus should be based on strength of argument and in the absence of evidence there is no such strength of argument.

    I request a prompt review of this closure by an uninvolved admin. WCMemail 15:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Endorse - I see no other viable closure of the thread in question. WCM's further argumentation here belies the fact that the main objection leading to the topic ban was the opening of the ANI thread regarding JayBeeEll, not edits at Tim Hunt or Talk:Tim Hunt. Further, if WCM is genuinely committed to disengaging from this topic and dispute, a better way to do that would be to not immediately write a several-hundred-word appeal directly pertaining to it. signed, Rosguill talk 17:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Endorse I'm not sure about the tban, but this challenge certainly DOA. The community has spoken. Nemov (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Endorse. The ban looks like a very ordinary topic ban, the close was a reasonable finding of a consensus, and no new information has been offered.—Alalch E. 18:28, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Endorse and speedy close, (involved as voter in TB proposal). Consensus was clear. Suggest broader block for ongoing IDHT and disruption. If you've disengaged from the article, you do not need access to edit it. Star Mississippi 20:30, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    Cadaver Dogs

    Hi! I would like to request access to edit/create a standalone article page for 'Cadaver Dogs'. Currently, it is stated that I am blocked from editing it, and I need to request administrator access. I was hoping by reaching out here I would receive that?

    Thank you :) Taylorwikipag3 (talk) 20:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    "Cadaver dogs" is a redirect to Search and rescue dog#Cadaver dog. You can expand that section rather than creating a fork. If the section becomes large enough, then you can propose splitting the section out into a separate article. If the article you want to write is about another topic, then you can write a draft, either in the Draft space or in a sandbox in your own user space, and then ask for help moving it to article space when it is ready. Donald Albury 21:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe the issue is that you were, up until just now, not an autoconfirmed user. I would still strongly suggest you draft an article before just creating it, but you should technically be able to do so now. The correct title would be Cadaver dog, which is currently a redirect. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 21:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    RfD still open

    This RfD has been open since as late as March 19 (potentially even earlier) and it still has not been closed yet.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#List_of_arunachal_pradesh_cricketer Okmrman (talk) 01:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Done :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For what it's worth @Okmrman:, a month at RfD (March 11th to April 12th) is really not that much cause for alarm. If it was touching two though, and/or was a decently contentious discussion which has lingered at the bottom for weeks with multiple relists, that's a lot more noteworthy. But the old RfD in question received 7 delete !votes and 1 !keep vote within the last 7 days. Would've been closed any day now, and likely isn't something that needed to be cross-posted here.
    What I will say though, as a word of advice, there really shouldn't be that big of a rush to close things at RfD. Generally, discussions should stay open for at least a week regardless, but I noticed you closing brand new discussions within a day, which should generally not be happening. You closed this discussion yesterday that was live for 18 hours after one person !voted to retarget and two people echoed it, which was a highly premature close from my point of view, (especially as I would've !voted something else). You were asked on your talk page 5 days ago to undo a close you made on Holy Chao, and again asked earlier today. I presume that case was also 1-2 days old as User:Veverve asked you on April 7th to reopen their RfD that initiated on April 5th?
    I appreciate your enthusiasm for keeping the RfDs up-to-date, as well as coming here to make sure that the old discussions receive their proper closure, but with this recent pattern I'd advise you to take it at a bit slower pace, thank you. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah sorry. My own discussion on the Genociding redirect was closed within less than a day so I thought that type of stuff was allowed. Okmrman (talk) 04:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All good, thanks for the response. Looking into the particular Genociding case, it seems it was primarily based on there not being a strong reason for action at RfD, i.e. it wouldn't be appropriate to delete Dancing as a redirect to Dance due to the -ing, either. The super early close isn't something that I would have done for it, as early closes are contentious on principle, but we live and learn though! Utopes (talk / cont) 06:14, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    RFA2024: Phase I ready to be wrapped up

    Hello! Each proposal of Phase I of RFA2024 has been open for 30 days or more (much more), and is ready to be closed by an uninvolved user. If anyone would be willing to help out, it would be much appreciated. Thanks :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unblock request: Willbb234

    Willbb234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    User Willbb234 was blocked late last year after an incident involving a sexualized personal attack (it has been revdeleted, don't go looking for it). They requested unblock about a month later, but I found their explanation lacking and declined with some reading material. They made a new appeal about a month later, but even though several admins have seen it it hasn't been actioned. The requests read:

    I recently made a nasty comment and I would like to apologise for said comment and for the distress it caused. I would also like to apologise to those that had to read the comment. I promise that this won't happen again. In my nearly five years of editing this is what I believe to be the first personal attack I have made, and so it is certainly not like me to make such a comment, and I will learn and change from this experience and block. Regards, Willbb234 18:21, 1 February 2024 (UTC) (declined by Ivanvector, same day)

    Along with the things I said in my previous unblock request, I would also like to acknowledge the seriousness of my comment and the fact that I have read through the resources given and have given thought to what they have said. Passing off sexual harassment as a joke is completely inappropriate. I hope that we can move on. Willbb234 17:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC) (request remains open)

    After a discussion among several admins today, we agree (more or less) that given the nature of the incident, the community should review this request. I am inviting interested editors to comment on Wilbb234's talk page directly so that they can respond to questions without us having to do a whole lot of copying and pasting back and forth. Please join the discussion at User talk:Willbb234#Unblock request for community review. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Unsalting needed

    Can an admin please unsalt Sanket Mhatre so Sanket Mhatre (voice actor) can be moved there? It seems the article may be notable after all, and the disambiguation is not needed. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Could this wait until the conclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanket Mhatre (voice actor)? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Request Admin assistance

    Hello. There are several premature RFD closures that probably need to be reopened. User:Okmrman is a new account with a little over a month on Wikipedia ( 3 March 2024 User account Okmrman talk contribs was created ). They have closed several RFDs too early. and they seem to be over eager to close these early. Links to these particular RFDs are: Holy Chao, Discorianism and the ones beneath Discorianism - Dischordian, Discodianism, Discorianist, Discordian Date.

    Here is the talk page discussion related to this on Okmrman's talk page: [83]. Although myself and another editor have pointed out that they should re-opoen these discussions (as a procedural matter) they seem to be unavailable at this time. Hence, I am requesting an Admin re-open these discussions. You can see, some of these were closed after only four days. Regards, ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Okmrman just responded on their talk page: [84]. They are causing a lot of work for other editors because after only a month on Wikipedia he They "still stand by the closure and [then they say] if you want to reopen it, go request the admins to see if it's valid or not." ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) As a note, some of these were also closed by me. Particularly, on April 5th Veverve nominated 30+ redirects across 20+ RfD sections, all to Discordianism, across 38 minutes ranging from 22:21 to 22:59. With basically a redirect getting nominated every minute, many of these nominations were not handled with the proper diligence as expected of an XfD proposal. An example would be "Discordian date", which was nominated with the rationale of "nonsensical", even though there's nothing inherently or evidently nonsensical about it. Discordian calendar, a target that four people unanimously pointed out and zero opposition, is a very plausible location to discuss dates; so, I closed this nomination on April 11th, in order to clean up some of the mass Discordian nominations that had a simple fix to retarget. Similarly, the disappearance of a section isn't a reason to delete Chao (Discordianism), if it's still discussed in a different section. Admittedly, Okmrman's closes were a lot earlier than I would've hoped for (April 9th), but I don't see how any of them would have turned out any differently. Opening them now would just be a detriment to editor's spent-time, as all have come to a universally agreed conclusion, and/or have no suitable reason for deletion provided (as mentions of terms such as Holy Chao have been added / re-added to the article, etc). Utopes (talk / cont) 21:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There have already been too many noticeboard threads about this topic, but since Steve Quinn has decided that this matter warranted yet another thread, perhaps he will be kind enough to explain why he wrote at Veverve's talk page that Oakman, Skyerise, and Furius are quite the clown show regarding these RFD and Discordianism pages [85]. Steve Quinn has ignored a prior attempt to get him to retract this personal attack. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 22:02, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lepricavark, to which noticeboard threads are you referring? This is the only thread I know about regarding the possibility of reopening the RFDs ---Steve Quinn (talk) 22:20, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I should have been more specific. I was referring more broadly to all the Discordianism-related threads. Continuing to ignore criticism of your personal attack is a bad look. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 23:52, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK I agree that those are not noticeboard threads. Thanks. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 00:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There have been several threads about Discordianism at the noticeboards. Too many, in my opinion. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ouch. That's not a very good look for him. Wikipedia:Don't shoot yourself in the foot Okmrman (talk) 02:20, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is enough blame to go around regarding the Discordianism and RFD discussions. So I suggest we all drop it. Otherwise we can all have dueling diffs between among several people. Frankly I don't think that would be productive at this point. ----Steve Quinn (talk) 03:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes and that's why this user essay exists. To make people think about their own actions before making discussions like this. Now personally, I would suggest to get an admin to lock this entire thread (and maybe give you a 2 day block for personal attack). Okmrman (talk) 03:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think your response is known as trolling. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was nothing wrong with me opening this discussion. In fact, it was quite justified. It is and was not a personal attack. You have actually prematurely closed a number of RFDs. ----Steve Quinn (talk) 04:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright maybe the discussion was valid but were the very cleverly marked up sections where you took very obvious jabs necessary? Also, the personal attacks refers to the messages you made about the three users in that user talk page. Okmrman (talk) 04:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Those are not really cleverly marked up. They are strike thru's. In other words, that means I rescinded those remarks. And I rescinded because they seem to contradict Assume Good Faith. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, regarding those three to whom you refer, I think that would be up to us to resolve. That is the instance I refer to where several of us would be in a situation of dueling diffs. One remark or action caused another remark or action and so on---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Because this has come up more than once or twice - I apologize for making the clown show remark regarding three Wikipedia editors (three colleagues) who are doing the best that they can, just like me. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    When I said "enough blame to go around" I wasn't referring to opening this thread. ----Steve Quinn (talk) 04:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I withdraw my request based on Utopes input above. I didn't realize the scope of, or the number of, RFDs created in a short space of time. Also, I didn't realize that proper due diligence was not carried out on most of these RfDs. But if I had realized the scope of the mass of deletion requests, I probably would have had a clue about due diligence. I got too involved in this situation, which is not a good thing on Wikipedia. It is a recipe for errors in judgement. I can see how it happened, now, I am remedying the problem, with egg on my face, so it won't happen in the future. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) For what it's worth I think it's still a fair position; Okmrman was closing discussions beyond just Discordianism, some of which stayed open for a fraction of the time the Discordian ones did. I mentioned a couple sections above this thread, here, about how this RfD opened on April 11th and was prematurely closed by Okmrman after just 18 hours. That's definitely a problem and should be undone. But with the Discordian titles now officially hitting a week since they began... unless there's expected to be a different outcome for whether or not to delete something like Discorianism, the snow-close seems correct for those specific titles. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zxcvbnm closed my discussion in a similar amount of time. Honestly, if Steel wants to, he could easily ask me to reopen it and I put a message on his own talk page just to tell him that. Okmrman (talk) 01:57, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    and yes I still think Genociding deserved a discussion even though it falls under {{redirect from verb}} because it's barely used to the point where online dictionaries literally don't even acknowledge it. Okmrman (talk) 02:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There may be a silver lining to all of this. It seems that many of the discussions are leading to finding sources that correlate with the redirects and previously removed material. I think in the end, the Wikipedia articles involved will have the desired in-line citations, demonstrating how well sourced the content is ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:41, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    They are causing a lot of work for other editors because after only a month Yeah, I'm pretty sure that reopening them would cause even more unnecessary work for the editors that would eventually end up with a near unanimous keep anyways if your request actually went through. Okmrman (talk) 02:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • A similar situation (involving early discussion closures and early relists) happens occasionally at AFD, too. I recommend non-admin closers review Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Non-admin closure which pertain as much to RFD as AFD. Okmrman, can you look these policy pages over before taking on any more deletion discussion closures? Deletion discussion closing is usually a task that is taken on by editors with a lot more experience than you have so it's important to follow the appropriate guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 05:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    This is not the first time I have make this request as you can see here [86]. These four users have been making regular edits on the Dean Lonergan which I believe to be WP:SNEAKY and not with WP:NPOV. I made regular edits to revert with explanation trying to keep it WP:NPOV. There has been a previous semi protection which expired in 1-1-2024. Since then the four users has been persistent in their edits which has gotten User:331dot involved to make regular reverts. The four users have made accusations stating I am being paid by Dean Lonergan and have been for the past 3 years which is not true. you can see the accusations on Dean Lonergan: Revision history. [87] The four users wants there to be an investigation about me which I gladly would do. Bennyaha (talk) 23:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think the page needs to be permanently protected as well. Bennyaha (talk) 23:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please can Owen Hurcum be protected from IP address vandalism

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    Hi

    The article Owen Hurcum has repeatedly had IP editors missgendering them (I can find 5 different ones) and one edit saying they are delusional, unfortunately this is kind of transphobic vandalism is becoming more common in the UK. Please can it have a protection added, whichever you think is most appropriate, I worry that because it is a lower traffic article it will get vandalised by IP addresses or new accounts and then not corrected for quite a while.

    Thanks very much

    John Cummings (talk) 08:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The edit you cite was back in September, there doesn't seem to be anything recent. That said, WP:RFPP is the correct venue to request page protection. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    The Arbitration case "Conflict of interest management" has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

    • The Arbitration Committee requests that a new VRT queue be established to accept reports of undisclosed conflict-of-interest or paid editing, where reporting such editing on-wiki is in conflict with WP:OUTING. The queue membership is to be decided by the Arbitration Committee and is open to any functionary and to any administrator by request to the Committee and who passes a functionary-like appointment process (including signing the ANPDP). Following the creation of the queue, the existing checkuser-only paid-en-wp queue will be archived, and access will be restricted to checkusers indefinitely. Functionaries and administrators working this queue may, at their discretion, refer a ticket to the Arbitration Committee for review; an example of a situation where a ticket should be referred to the committee is when there is a credible report involving an administrator.
    • For posting non-public information about another editor—after a previous post by Fram in the same thread was removed and oversighted—Fram is admonished against posting previously undisclosed information about other editors on Wikipedia ("outing") which is a violation of the harassment policy. Concerns about policy violations based on private evidence must be sent to the appropriate off-wiki venue. Any further violations of this policy may result in an Arbitration Committee block or ban.
    • For his failure to meet the conduct standards expected of an administrator, specifically as pertains to conflict of interest editing and conflict of interest disclosure, Nihonjoe's administrator and bureaucrat user rights are removed. Nihonjoe may regain these user rights via a successful request for adminship and a successful request for bureaucratship, respectively.

    For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 17:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management closed

    Could an admin review the discussion on Talk:Cass Review

    Hi

    Please could I ask an admin to review the discussion on Talk:Cass Review, I have seen some examples of Wikipedia:Assume good faith being ignored and at least one threat. I just want to flag it so that someone can review it and hopefully steer it in a better direction.

    Thanks

    John Cummings (talk) 18:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Murder of "Linda Anderson"

    I was banned for no ther reason than wanting to add the real names since Canadian law does not apply to the rest of the world. Daniel is an abusive mod. 2A02:A212:A583:5980:93B6:AAA7:8A66:717A (talk) 21:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Admins, Please review User talk:Myrealnamm (messages from 2A02:A212:A583:5980:93B6:AAA7:8A66:717A. This is making me feel like I have done something wrong, and if I have, please let me know. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have blocked the IP - they were violating IP at the Linda Anderson article, were part-blocked from editing that, and then came here to continue the nonsense. I will also revert and redact your talk page to be on the safe side. GiantSnowman 21:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    2A02:A212:A583:5980:F635:52:AA7D:81A7 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) also blocked. GiantSnowman 21:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd like to create Portal:Portal sandbox

    I was told by a popup to come here after trying to create it. Also, why isn't there anything in the public logs about it?

    Cheers, RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The error message is from the local WP:TITLEBLACKLIST and says Portal( talk)?:Portal( talk)?.* <errmsg=titleblacklist-custom-repeated-namespace-prefix>. I think whoever wrote that filter wants you to create Portal:Sandbox instead. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just for completion's sake, since your suggestion makes sense:
    The broad version was added to the blacklist in Special:Diff/744108976 and linked to the following request as justification (which is from MER-C's talk page): Special:Permanentlink/744103964#Double_namespace_prefixes_blacklist_entry143.208.239.27 (talk) 06:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We have Template:Template sandbox... RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 06:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You know what, I think the current blacklist might have a typo? All the others are Namespace:Namespace:~anything else~, but the portal one doesn't have a colon after the second Portal.
    It's currently Portal( talk)?:Portal( talk)?.*.
    If the colon was there Portal:Portal sandbox would have created fine, I think? – 143.208.239.27 (talk) 06:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know anything about filters to be honest. But if you've spotted an issue, I'm sure someone would answer a request to fix with extreme promptitude. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 06:30, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't have experience with the titleblacklist, with filters and the language sure, but a lot of filter logs are visible to IPs, the blacklist logs aren't, and that particular one is admin-only(?).
    I think it's a typo, because it was never mentioned in the request, all others have a colon and it was already like that in the request. MER-C would know, since they did that edit, and maybe they will come here if they got pinged in my comment.

    At any rate that's separate to what Novem is saying (including in the new comment), which I say again makes a lot of sense. – 143.208.239.27 (talk) 06:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That page keeps getting deleted to remove the history. I was thinking using subpages for the sandboxing would be better. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 06:08, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the simplest solution would be to create Portal:Sandbox. Rather than modifying or overriding the title blacklist, which I imagine is there for a reason. I think Template:Template sandbox is an exception because Template:Sandbox already exists and is for something else (is not a sandbox). There are other sandboxes that follow the normal naming convention such as Draft:Sandbox. Please also consider if we need another sandbox, or if we can just reuse an existing one or use a userspace page. FYI, certain sandboxes are set up to be automatically cleaned by a bot. –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1rr Arab-Israeli conflict warning

    There is a message you can send users that edit Arab-Israeli conflict articles. To follow the 1rr. It is needed before an arbitration enforcement request.

    Can someone send it to User:Galamore ?

    He has recently violated the 1rr and is claiming at his talkpage that he hasnt (he has) Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 07:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]