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Automated process to tag articles in project scope and/or auto-assess unassessed articles[edit]

A request has been made to tag & auto-assess articles in the scope of this project based on categories and/or auto-assess the project's unassessed articles.

To auto-assess, the bot looks for a {{stub}} template on the article, or inherits the class rating from other project banners (see here for further details).

Feel free to raise any questions or concerns regarding this process. The task will commence after 72 hours if there are no objections.

Eduemonitalk 17:35, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:UNDUE issue at Chris Brown (American singer)[edit]

Opinions are needed on this matter. Earlier, I reverted to the previous formatting, per my reasoning at Talk:Chris Brown (American singer)#section 1.4 needs to be reWritten : 2008–09: Graffiti album and domestic violence case. Splitting up the sections to where his domestic violence case is highlighted is a sure case of WP:UNDUE. There is no valid reason to highlight the section by making it its own section and separating it from his career efforts at that time, especially since it (the domestic violence case) affected those efforts. It makes more sense to keep all that information there in one place. This is also how biographies of living people are typically done -- avoiding Criticism or Controversy sections by themselves. They especially follow chronological order. If the Michael Jackson article (which is featured) can combine controversy with career happenings without any problems, then I do not see why this article cannot as well. Flyer22 (talk) 05:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

"All In Love Is Fair"[edit]

Trying to work out if there were one, two or more songs/albums of this name on the go in the mid 1970's.

Nancy Wilson (jazz singer) links to All In Love Is Fair as a 1974 album of hers. All in love is fair redirects to Innervisions (a 1973 Stevie Wonder album) which mentions that "All in Love is Fair" was a later hit for Barbra Streisand, who recorded it and released as a single in 1974.

I suspect the matter needs disambiguation - any experts here who might fancy having a go at this? Ta. - TB (talk) 22:11, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Billboard Decade-End as a parallel to Billboard Year-End[edit]

Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Music#Billboard_Decade-End_as_a_parallel_to_Billboard_Year-End so that all discussion is in one place.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

AFD for Dario (Singer)[edit]

I figured I'd cross post this here to get some input from the R&B WikiProject:

This looks like no consensus to me. I Help, When I Can.[12] 22:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time[edit]

Wikipedia has an article about a song of this title. But it refers to something from the nineties by R. Kelly.

Unmentioned is the fact that there was a different song, of the same title, recorded by Tyrone Davis. I hadn't heard this song in years but Otis Clay played it at his Millennium Park concert in Chicago the other night. It's a great song, and Wikipedia should have something about it. I myself know nothing about it or about Tyrone Davis so I'm not really a potential author, but it should not be unmentioned.

On further review, there is a Wikipedia page about this song: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn_Back_the_Hands_of_Time_(song). But the title of this song is "Turn Back the Hands of Time", not "If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time". Disambiguation links might be appropriate.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevecoh1 (talkcontribs) 21:21, 6 August 2011

I've added to the hatnote and to the text, for clarification. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Prince proposal[edit]

Please add your opinion. I Help, When I Can.[12] 22:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Need books[edit]

hello,

if someone has any books about Otis Redding, please ping on my talk page. Thanks.--♫GoP♫TCN 10:59, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Page location discussion[edit]

I have opened an WP:RFC at Talk:T.H.E._(The_Hardest_Ever)#Page_locations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Ciara proposal[edit]

Please join this discussion. Thanks, Pancake (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month[edit]

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:R&B and Soul Music will have interest in putting on events related to women's roles in these genres; as musicians, performers, subjects, etc. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 19:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Prince albums[edit]

The ledes for some articles on Prince's albums:

  • 3121 (2006): "3121 ... is the thirty-first studio album by Prince..."
  • Planet Earth (2007): "Planet Earth is the twenty-fifth studio album by American musician Prince..."
  • Lotusflower (2009): "Lotusflow3r ... is the twenty-sixth studio album by American musician Prince..."
  • 20Ten (2010): "20Ten is the thirty-fifth studio album by American musician Prince..."

So something's wrong here, but I've no idea what's right. Maybe somebody could clear this up?—Chowbok 23:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal[edit]

I have nominated List of unreleased Michael Jackson material for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Rubiscous (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

A new barnstar[edit]

I present a new barnstar for your WikiProject!

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Jill Scott, Dionne Warwick, Ray Charles and the now sadly departed Whitney Houston. All in one barnstar. Feel free to hand it out to people who improve Wikipedia's coverage of R&B and Soul.

Tom Morris (talk) 22:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

FAR notification[edit]

I have nominated 4 Minutes (Madonna song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Misha B[edit]

Two points...how do I put a newish artist [Misha B] under your wing, secondly

Me and another editor Rui78901 are having a difference of opinion about layout and content of the Misha B page, over the last three weeks the have been a few reverts, both ways, we have started a discussion on the talk page, if you have time please contribute any advice, comment or recommendation either way or other. Thank you in advance. ....Zoebuggie☺whispers 13:34, 5 August 2012


I forgot to say If a project team has any free wiki time could they Assess the Misha B article it would be fab is Misha B UK solo vocalist singing in various genres, primarily in Contemporary R&B and Soul, but also British Hip Hop, Rap, Hip Hop Soul, Grime, Reggae Fusion and Pop - before X factor and after. How do I get the bot to pick her up for an assessment? ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:27, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Misha B music genres[edit]

Question that you may ask is does Misha B come under your Soul and R&B wing.

Misha's music genre is hard to pin down :) MB is an artist who does not want to be boxed into Genres, but expressly/actively determined to mix genres and experiment with styles. Below is a non-exhaustive list of sources that refer to Bryan's genre. The Genres in normal brackets are simple ones I have not so far used on the info box.

R&B[1][2] [3]
soul inc (Motown)[4][5][6] [7][8][9][10][11][12][13]
but also
hip hop[14][15][16][17][18][19]
rap[20] [21][9][22]
(Grime)[23] [9][24]
reggae fusion inc (drum and base)(dancehall)[25][26]Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

[27]

(dance)[28][29]
(rock)[30][31]
(indie)[32]
(pop)[33][34]
(funk) (blues)[35]


(R&B, hip hop, soul, (funk), (blues),(pop), (acoustic?) and (indie) <my own collection of her youtube vids>[36])


...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


P.S. For her info box, I am inclined to drop the last 3-5 genres. ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 16:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  2. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  3. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "(96) Misha B". facebook.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  4. ^ "QX Magazine London's Gay Magazine - Lifestyle, Reviews, Clubs and Bars - » THE QUEEN B". qxmagazine.com. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 22 July 2012. I’m heavily influenced by where my family come from, Jamaica, so there’s a dancehall vibe, but I’m from Britain so there’s pop, too. I started out as a rapper before I became a singer, so there’s hip-hop in there and also Motown/soul vibe.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  5. ^ "SB.TV F64 - Misha B - F64 [S3.EP22]". YouTube. 2011-12-24. Retrieved 2012-07-07. 
  6. ^ "Misha B's F64 Continues To Get Fans Talking | L'ART Magazine". dlpublications-lart.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. nd her 64 bars show variety in song, rap, powerful lyrics with soul and great deliverance plus bags of personality.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  7. ^ "Sneak Peek: Shots from Misha B’s debut single ‘Home Run’ | Flavour Magazine". flavourmag.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 23 July 2012. The jolting percussion and reggae-infused, drum and bass influenced beats come courtesy of rising UK producer MNEK. Combined with her soulful vocals, it brims over at its catchy hook to electric effect.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  8. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  9. ^ a b c "Review: Misha B – ‘Home Run’ (Single)". Retrieved 17 July 2012. 
  10. ^ "X Factor Star Misha In B Line To Top". Retrieved 21 July 2012. 
  11. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B | Interview + live performance at All About Good Music Live, Manchester - YouTube". youtube.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  12. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  13. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "(96) Misha B". facebook.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  14. ^ "QX Magazine London's Gay Magazine - Lifestyle, Reviews, Clubs and Bars - » THE QUEEN B". qxmagazine.com. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 22 July 2012. I’m heavily influenced by where my family come from, Jamaica, so there’s a dancehall vibe, but I’m from Britain so there’s pop, too. I started out as a rapper before I became a singer, so there’s hip-hop in there and also Motown/soul vibe.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  15. ^ "SB.TV F64 - Misha B - F64 [S3.EP22]". YouTube. 2011-12-24. Retrieved 2012-07-07. 
  16. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  17. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Gig review and pictures: Misha B at Cargo, London – 01/08/2012 « SoulSide Funk". soulsidefunk.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012. hip-hop, funky and a little bit of acoustic  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  18. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B | Interview + live performance at All About Good Music Live, Manchester - YouTube". youtube.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  19. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  20. ^ "Misha B's F64 Continues To Get Fans Talking | L'ART Magazine". dlpublications-lart.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. nd her 64 bars show variety in song, rap, powerful lyrics with soul and great deliverance plus bags of personality.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  21. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  22. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  23. ^ "Misha B's F64 Continues To Get Fans Talking | L'ART Magazine". dlpublications-lart.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. nd her 64 bars show variety in song, rap, powerful lyrics with soul and great deliverance plus bags of personality.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  24. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "SBTV - Misha B Interview". grimescene.co.uk. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  25. ^ "QX Magazine London's Gay Magazine - Lifestyle, Reviews, Clubs and Bars - » THE QUEEN B". qxmagazine.com. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 22 July 2012. I’m heavily influenced by where my family come from, Jamaica, so there’s a dancehall vibe, but I’m from Britain so there’s pop, too. I started out as a rapper before I became a singer, so there’s hip-hop in there and also Motown/soul vibe.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  26. ^ "SB.TV F64 - Misha B - F64 [S3.EP22]". YouTube. 2011-12-24. Retrieved 2012-07-07. 
  27. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  28. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  29. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "BRIAN ABORINGONG | …guess I've got to let it out somehow?". qualitylearning.wordpress.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  30. ^ "Misha B: 'Minaj Comparisons Are A Compliment' | Misha B | News | MTV UK". mtv.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 6 August 2012. you can’t run away from comparisons  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  31. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "BRIAN ABORINGONG | …guess I've got to let it out somehow?". qualitylearning.wordpress.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  32. ^ "Misha B: 'Minaj Comparisons Are A Compliment' | Misha B | News | MTV UK". mtv.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 6 August 2012. you can’t run away from comparisons  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  33. ^ "Singles Of The Week (16 July 2012) | So So Gay magazine". sosogay.co.uk. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 3 August 2012. ‘Home Run’ is a fusion of multiple genres that Misha showcased throughout her time on the show – R&B, hip-hop, grime, dance, pop and soul  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  34. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B – Free listening, videos, concerts, stats, & pictures at Last.fm". last.fm. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  35. ^ "Gig review and pictures: Misha B at Cargo, London – 01/08/2012 « SoulSide Funk". soulsidefunk.com. 2012 [last update]. Retrieved 7 August 2012. hip-hop, funky and a little bit of acoustic  Check date values in: |date= (help)
  36. ^ [author missing] (2012 [last update]). "Misha B JOURNEY - YouTube". youtube.com. Retrieved 7 August 2012.  Check date values in: |date= (help)

A bit of help from the Wikiproject.[edit]

I nominated Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Leona Lewis/archive2 over a month ago and it hasn't had many comments from reviewers and editors. One of the reviewers hasn't been online for over a week, and another hasn't responded to some comments I have replied. I was advised to leave a note on the list's wikiproject's asking for anyone who may have some time to spare to review the list and leave comments. A vote on whether or not you feel the article is worthy of FL status would also be appreciated so that the FLC can make some progress. Thanks. AaronYou Da One 23:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Tina Turner/1[edit]

Tina Turner, an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the good article reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article.

Missing My Baby at FAC[edit]

Just a note that I've nominated "Missing My Baby" at FAC and would like my fellow members to provide a comment on its nomination. Best, Jonatalk to me 14:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Justin Bieber listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Жастин Бибер and Джастин Бибер. Since you had some involvement with the Justin Bieber redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 76.65.128.252 (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Spoken word soul[edit]

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The article Spoken word soul has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The artists mentioned in this article have all combined spoken word with musical accompaniment. However, someone seems to have retroactively applied "spoken word soul" to what are actually diverse styles of music, possibly based on a quote from Shades of J (who released an album called Spoken World Soul). See Talk:Spoken word soul.

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CfD nomination of Category:Spoken word soul[edit]

On a related note: Category:Spoken word soul has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. You are encouraged to join the discussion on the Categories for discussion page. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:56, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikiproject Leona Lewis proposal[edit]

Hello, I have proposed the created of Wikiproject Leona Lewis at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Leona Lewis. Please would you cast a vote or raise any questions in a discussion. Thanks. AARONTALK 14:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Adele/archive1[edit]

Would anyone from the Wikiproject like to leave any comments which they feel concerns them or would cast a vote in support or opposition based on your findings, I would much appreciate it. The list has garnered several good (and resolved) reviews, but no votes have been cast. Thanks. AARONTALK 12:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Urban jazz for deletion[edit]

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GAR[edit]

Speed Demon (song), an article that your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article.--Tomcat (7) 18:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Misha B[edit]

If anyone has a free moment an independent third party comment about what music genres should be listed on the Misha B / Talk:Misha B pages would be useful. Misha B has only released two official tracks, but has covered dozens of others, the is references to her influences and forthcoming album too....Zoebuggie☺whispers 13:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Hush Hush[edit]

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Hush Hush#Requested move regarding the page "Hush Hush." Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks, Tyrol5 [Talk] 02:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks fellow wiki-mate, but it seems the discussion has already been solved. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 05:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

AFD for Raydiation 2 (Ray J's upcoming album)[edit]

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The result was redirect to Ray J. (non-admin closure) Mediran (tc) 10:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Raydiation 2[edit]

Raydiation 2 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Raydiation is an album that is coming out in the future with no indication of when. I propose deletion of the page and then redirection into Ray J per the normal consensus for these types of albums. Thebirdlover (talk) 05:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Redirect to Ray J, if there are enough content to start an article about its production, composition and background, but there ain't enough material for such. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 05:53, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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  • Redirect I was reading over this and was curious to notice; "is the upcoming fifth studio album by American R&B recording artist Ray J. It is the fourth album by Ray J to feature production from Darkchild....The first single, "One Thing Leads to Another", which features Pitbull, was released on October 12, 2010. A video for the single hasn't been released as of yet. The second single, "Last Wish", was released on October 19, 2010. A video for the single was released on December 1, 2010. Couple years slow in the coming I guess, so may as well send it to Ray J's place... Ren99 wha? 08:57, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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AFD for Soundz[edit]

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The result was no consensus. MBisanz talk 00:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Soundz[edit]

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Tagged for notability for over 5 years; couldn't establish notability. Boleyn (talk) 11:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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  • Comment Nominating a large number of articles - all of which have been tagged for notability for at least 5 years - does not meet speedy keep no. 2. Boleyn (talk) 08:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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  • Redirect to One_Woman_Army#Recording for now as it seems he has received the most attention for this. I didn't find anything reliable for working with Pitbull but I did find this which mentions working with Ciara. At this time, it seems he is best known for working with Ciara's 2013 album. After multiple detailed searches, I found this interview from 2010 and Justin Bieber mentions here, here and here. I attempted to search for reliable sources on Kelly Rowland but only found that interview I mentioned earlier which repeatedly mentions her and I found this and this for Gail Scott. I also found this to confirm his work with Chantel. It seems he only worked with Usher for one album in 2008 but there isn't much in-depth coverage about this aside from brief mentions ("he has worked with stars such as Usher..."). I searched with some of the artists he worked with in the beginning but found nothing substantial. In addition to the thatgrapejuice.net interview, I found other entries from that website that briefly mention him here, here, here and here (all for Ciara). He is starting to receive more attention but I think he isn't notable yet and, as mentioned, he is really best known for Ciara at this time despite briefly working with Justin Bieber (which he did not receive in-depth coverage from). SwisterTwister talk 22:27, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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  • Strong Keep - Even though notability is not inherit, Soundz has a comprehensive work with several major and minor musical artists, the article is unsourced, but if you search for example, there are not only mentions 1 23, but his collaboration with a multitude of artists is which makes him notable. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 06:21, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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Comment - Soundz also was involved into a controversy in which he claimed singer Beyonce pays for musical credits. (a)
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AFD for James Fauntleroy II[edit]

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The result was merge to The Y's. J04n(talk page) 11:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

James Fauntleroy II[edit]

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Apart from being a member of the production teams The Underdogs and The Y's and being a member of the hip hop group Cocaine 80s, James Fauntleroy II holds no stand-alone notability. Status 03:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 03:57, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TBrandley (what's up) 00:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Delete I agree with the nom that James Fauntleroy II has failed to achieve a considerable level of notability to deserve his own article. From now, everything that might be said about him, could be done in the pages of the groups he's a part of. — ΛΧΣ21 02:48, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Merge to The Y's article. — Tomíca(T2ME) 22:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Agree, Merge to the Y's. Dan56 (talk) 23:47, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
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Vital articles[edit]

There is a discussion regarding which music articles should be deemed vital to the project occuring here. Your input would be appreciated. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:27, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

talk:Black Entertainment Television[edit]

Request is still discussed; comment while it lasts. --George Ho (talk) 02:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Request[edit]

Not sure why it is not on the list, but in my opinion a band as influential as Zapp really deserves a huge cleanup and slightly more expansion. If anyone will read this please add it to the to do list of articles to improve on, thanks. I will be making efforts to improve the article too. Kaleidoscopic God (talk) 17:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's health and appearance article[edit]

Anyone willing to help out with the Michael Jackson's health and appearance article? The same back and forth mess is still going on at that article, such as with this and this edit by "new editor" Firstcomp, especially with regard to Jackson's skin color and whatever plastic surgery he might have had. See Talk:Michael Jackson's health and appearance for further detail. Flyer22 (talk) 21:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Dazz Band[edit]

Dazz Band needs an accuracy check and probably more citations. It also needs more people watchlisting the article due to slow-motion attempts to change the information in the article in ways that contradict the listed sources.

If the listed sources are factually incorrect, they need to be augmented with other reliable sources so that it is clear that the dispute is based on contradictory reliable sources. If it's clear that the sources used are actually in error, this needs to be logged on the talk page, the source replaced, and the article corrected.

I will be asking for PC1 on this article. If PC1 is added, it can be removed when either the number of watchers grows or when the issues that are leading to the slow-motion edit war (namely, changing information that contradicts a presumably-reliable source without supplying a reliable source to back the newly-added information) are resolved. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

"Bad"[edit]

There's a bit of a dispute at Bad (Michael Jackson song) over a date.

  1. This documentary says the video was filmed in 1986.
  2. The article itself says the song was recorded in January 1987, but this claim is unsourced.
  3. This Allmusic link says the album was recorded between January and July 1987.

Which date is right? And where could I find sources verifying either date? Googling "Michael Jackson" "Bad" "January 1987" turned up only Wikipedia mirrors and false positives. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 06:22, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject R&B and Soul Music At Wikimania 2014[edit]

Hi all,

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This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

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Adikhajuria (talk) 14:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Grammy Award templates[edit]

Suddenly a raft of less important Grammy Awards templates are being created. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards and prizes#Grammy Award templates.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:06, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

The wrong meaning of singer-songwriter[edit]

Tonight I noticed that a bunch of articles show the wrong meaning of singer-songwriter, which ought to be limited to a primarily solo artist who writes political or socially topical songs. Think of Bob Dylan or Woody Guthrie.

The R&B articles I have been seeing contain the mistaken assumption that a singer-songwriter is simply a singer who writes songs. For instance, Michael Jackson was never a singer-songwriter, even though he sang and wrote. Somebody who dances and sings is not a singer-songwriter. Somebody who writes popular songs is not a singer-songwriter.

Another problems is that we have one or more categories that carry forward the mistake: Category talk:American rhythm and blues singer-songwriters.

Please help me change the mistaken instances of "singer-songwriter" to "singer and songwriter" or something similar that makes sense in context. Binksternet (talk) 06:51, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Genre issue on GA nominated article[edit]

Hello. An editor and I have hit a stand still in an article related to this project regarding genre. Could some editors weight in on it here please? thank you! Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:44, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

TFAR notification[edit]

I've nominated a WP:FA article related to this project for WP:TFAR consideration as Today's Featured Article, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Irreplaceable. — Cirt (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

FAR listing[edit]

I have nominated Selena for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:49, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Harej (talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I know nothing[edit]

I got an invitation to join this project, but I have no special knowledge. I do like this type of music and am intersested in helping in any way that I can, but I have no idea how to start. Think of me as a secretary. Give me something to do... Cliff (talk) 18:16, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Sade Adu listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Amber (performer) listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Amber (singer) listed at Requested moves[edit]

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Meghan Trainor[edit]

There has been some dispute as to whether or not Meghan Trainor should be included in the scope of this WikiProject. Feel free to comment here if you are interested. –Chase (talk / contribs) 07:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding single artwork in song articles[edit]

This discussion is relevant to this WikiProject, and interested editors may wish to comment. Chase (talk | contributions) 14:50, 5 July 2015 (UTC)