Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

This page provides editors a forum to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Suggesting an item

In order to suggest a candidate:

• Start, find or modify a blurb directly in the light green box for that day's Current events. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable source.
• Update an article linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
• Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under that day's ITN Candidates subheading, emboldening the link to the updated article.

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Freddie Freeman In baseball, the Los Angeles Dodgers defeat the New York Yankees to win the World Series (MVP Freddie Freeman pictured). Flooding in Spain kills more than 200 people. The Social Democrats, led by Vilija Blinkevičiūtė, win the Lithuanian parliamentary election after the second voting round. In the Japanese general election, the LDP-led ruling coalition loses its majority in the House of Representatives. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Jim Donovan Abdelaziz Barrada Jeri Taylor Amir Abdur-Rahim Julia Hawkins Gary Indiana view - page history - related changes - Edit (admins only)

Sample candidate discussion

• The item on widgets seems to have been adequately updated. --and sign & date your entry 12:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to have any references for the new content. --They've also signed their comment 12:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and added some citations. It should be ready now. --User's Name 12:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks good. Posted. --Responding administrator 12:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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-- Anc516 (Talk ▪ Contribs) 04:25, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

August 13

August 13, 2009 (2009-08-13) (Thursday)

• On an official visit to Colombia, Mexican President Felipe Calderón offers his country’s mediation in the conflict between that country, Ecuador and Venezuela. (MercoPress)
• Ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya praises Chile for its “great image” as he meets its President Michelle Bachelet in Santiago and says he expects the United States to take "more drastic actions" against the de facto government of Roberto Micheletti. (MercoPress)
• Eleven people, including four policemen, are killed in several separate insurgent attacks in Russia's Republic of Dagestan. (AFP)
• At least 23 government soldiers and more than 20 Muslim extremists are killed in a day-long clash in the southern Philippines. (France 24)
• Former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani survives an ambush by the Taliban in the Ali Abad District of Kunduz province, Afghanistan. (Voice of America)
• Supporters of Guinea's self-declared President, Captain Moussa Dadis Camara, form a movement, Dadis Must Stay, to call for him to be allowed to continue in office. (BBC)
• The French and German economies rebound, helping push the Eurozone to the brink of economic recovery in the second quarter, delivering a further signal that the worst of the global crisis may be coming to an end in Europe. (FT)
• The European Union will extend its sanctions on Burma to cover members of the judiciary responsible for the verdict in the trial of opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi. (Reuters)
• A rare signed copy of Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf sells at the Mullock’s auction at Ludlow Racecourse, Shropshire, for £21,000 (€24,400). (The Irish Times) (BBC) (Evening Herald) (The Guardian) (The New York Times) (Toronto Star)

ITN candidates for August 13

Death of Les Paul

He is credited with developing one of the first solid-body electric guitars, which went on sale in 1952 and contributed to the birth of rock. He also developed other influential recording innovations such as multi-track recording and overdubbing. And he was credited with inventing the eight-track tape recorder. Comments? --candle•wicke 19:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Where is the substantial article update? In Les Paul, I see nothing beyond a two-sentence (could be one-sentence) mention of his death and the most basic details thereof. —David Levy 19:08/19:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Just checked, I see three sentences. :) Should be easy enough to add more. --candle•wicke 21:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

With the addition of a third sentence, we now are informed that Les Paul was repeatedly hospitalized due to illness. This is hardly a shocking revelation.

Please report back when information about the death's impact has been added (which actually seems plausible in this instance). —David Levy 21:48, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Support, but the death section needs more, and the article as a whole could use a little cleanup. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 19:20, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose - It's the first time when I heard about him. TouLouse (talk) 19:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, he was 94, and I think that 94 is a bit old to die unexpectantly Blah42b10 (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Science - new planet..

Here --- TouLouse (talk) 09:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Created article about it here. Only a stub, because it's 5:45 AM here and I need to sleep. When I wake up I'll resume expansion. Definitely ITN-worthy, though; possibly the biggest exoplanet ever found, and the first one we know of to have a retrograde orbit. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 10:46, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

This is a good story indeed. However, I assume that the planet was not discovered today, as the article says, rather the discovery was announced today. --Tone 11:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. --candle•wicke 14:11, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Scientist announce the discovery of WASP-17b, the first planet with a retrograde orbit. If you agree that the article is long enough, I'm ready to post it. (Any good way to include the word extrasolar in the blurb? Just the first extrasolar planet is not good since one could think that this is something known in solar planets.) --Tone 15:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

You meant to say 'scientists', right? :P I'm biased, but I think the article is fine; I'm not sure how much more expansion could be done right now, as this is all the information I could fit in without having it sound esoteric and complicated to the average reader. As for the extrasolar predicament; how about "Scientists announce the discovery of exoplanet WASP-17b, the first known planet to have a retrograde orbit"? Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 20:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

August 12

August 12, 2009 (2009-08-12) (Wednesday)

• At a meeting in Caracas, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez and Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner sign agreements expanding trade between their two countries. (MercoPress)
• It is discovered that the Killer Whale creates and visits 'social clubs'. (BBC)
• Yemeni troops, backed by tanks and fighter aircraft, launch a major offensive on the stronghold of Shia fighters in northern Yemen. (Al Jazeera)
• Thirty people are killed in Warrap state in southern Sudan, in a resurgence of the nomadic conflicts. (IOL)
• Russia's navy is deployed to find the MV Arctic Sea, a missing ship reportedly hijacked three weeks ago in the Baltic Sea. (BBC News)
• About 700 people missing in southern Taiwan after Typhoon Morakot are located alive. (BBC) (RTÉ)
• Indonesian police say DNA tests show that a militant killed in a weekend raid was not Noordin Mohammed Top, one of the region's most wanted men. (BBC)
• The wreckage of an Airlines PNG De Havilland Twin Otter 300 plane carrying 11 passengers and 2 crew is found near Isurava, Papua New Guinea; there are no signs of survivors. (Al Jazeera) (RNZI)
• Gunmen shoot dead five Pakistani Muslim preachers outside a mosque in Galkayo, Somalia. (IOL) (BBC)
• Gregoire Ndahimana, a Rwandan fugitive accused of genocide and crimes against humanity, is arrested by a joint Rwandan-Congolese military operation. (IOL) (BBC)
• An estimated 20,000 people march through Noumea, New Caledonia, to denounce violent clashes by USTKE trade unionists against police. (RNZI)
• MV Princess Ashika
  • New Zealand Navy divers believe they have located the sunken MV Princess Ashika a week after the accident. (RNZI)
  • Tonga's Transportation Minister Paul Karalus resigns after the sinking of the MV Princess Ashika, which killed an estimated 93 people. (New Zealand Herald)
• German CDU politician Vera Lengsfeld attracts controversy for displaying a photo of Angela Merkel in a revealing gown without the authorisation of the Chancellor. (BBC)
• Lubna al-Hussein, the Sudanese woman facing forty lashes for wearing trousers in public, is prevented from leaving the country for a trip to Lebanon, where she was to take part in a televised talk-show about women's issues. (IOL) (BBC)
• Diego León Montoya Sánchez, Norte Valle Cartel leader, pleads guilty to drug, murder and racketeering charges. (www.BackgroundNow.com)
• The Roman Catholic Church is expresses "unease" and "mortification" over revelations surrounding the private life of Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi. (BBC)
• Astronomers discover WASP-17b, the first planet that orbits in the opposite direction to the spin of its star. (BBC)

ITN candidates for August 12

Microsoft Word Banned in the US

BBC. A judge has banned the sale of MS Word in the US. Quite possibly one of the most popular software after windows i think this is fairly big. Its comparable to US banning Gmail for google perhaps. what do u guys think? Microsoft_Word#Injunction would need to be expanded though. -- Ashish-g55 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It says Microsoft is appealing so I would say wait for now. --candle•wicke 21:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Everyone appeals after a sentencing, though. Support after update. Therequiembellishere (talk) 22:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

it looks decently updated now -- Ashish-g55 04:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Decently-updated, but also very US-centric. Given that this isn't really going to grind the world to a halt, I'm not quite sure it's news-worthy. Hold back for now. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 06:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

well i dont mind... but since when is grinding world to halt a requirement... Microsoft is biggest software company in world so i figured its home country banning its product was interesting... -- Ashish-g55 12:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Wanted war criminal arrested—Gregoire Ndahimana

• ...by a joint Rwandan-Congolese military operation. ...responsible for the deaths of at least 2,000 Tutsis, most of whom were killed when a church in which they had sought refuge was bulldozed. Please comment. --candle•wicke 21:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Expanded, wikified, sourced and included as "After 15 years in hiding, Grégoire Ndahimana is arrested in North Kivu for the alleged murder of 2,000 Tutsi civilians during the Rwandan Genocide." Apologies for not saying anything about it first, but I thought it was the most promising and varied topic I could work on at the moment. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 08:09, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Argentina and Venezuela Presidents meet and deal

“This bilateral meeting today is aimed at deepening our vital integration” Mrs. Kirchner said today on the steps of the Miraflores presidential palace in Caracas, following a meeting of the two leaders. --candle•wicke 16:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Any support/oppose? --candle•wicke 21:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd support this if we expanded it more. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 08:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Yemeni military operation

• Yemeni foces have launched a major offensive against Shia fighters in northern Yemen.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks good. Maybe better to wait for outcome though? --Tone 19:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 08:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Missing cargo ship

• An international search operation was underway for a cargo ship which vanished after being involved in what is feared to be an unprecedented incident of piracy in European waters.--TheFEARgod (Ч) 16:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This is an interesting story. But I'd prefer to wait until more is know. Searching is news. Piracy in Europe is encyclopaedic. Or whatever the outcome. --Tone 19:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I've already nominated the article for DYK and I'd rather see it there. By the time is hits the main page, more information should become available. Óðinn (talk) 22:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

700 people found alive

How often does this happen? --candle•wicke 16:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Never - Morakots been updated with the info so it could go up.Jason Rees (talk) 16:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

well we didnt post the 700 ppl when they got buried so i dont know if we should post when they are found either. its like we only care if they dont die... lol. -- Ashish-g55 17:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Technically we did - The mudslide was caused by Morakot - But im unsure i want Morakot on the Main page for too much longer.Jason Rees (talk) 18:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

i meant the mudslide. i suggested an update for the slide alone earlier. but it was never mentioned separately. -- Ashish-g55 20:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Giant 'meat-eating' plant found—Nepenthes attenboroughii

A new species of giant carnivorous plant has been discovered in the highlands of the central Philippines. --candle•wicke 04:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Am I missing something? It was discovered in 2007, and announced in February this year? --Stephen 06:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Must've decided to announce it again now. Oh well. --candle•wicke 13:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

i believe it has now been officially named after the attenborough dude. either way i dont remember this making to ITN before and the article looks like its in decent shape. we have had new species of animals on ITN bunch of times but never really meat eating plants. so ill give it a support -- Ashish-g55 15:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

It's still kind of old news... --Tone 15:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

August 11

August 11, 2009 (2009-08-11) (Tuesday)

• President of Costa Rica, Óscar Arias Sánchez is diagnosed with Influenza AH1N1 but his condition is stable, according to official reports. (ANSA) (AP) (MercoPress)
• A court ruling in Pretoria bars President Jacob Zuma from appointing a successor to axed prosecutions chief Vusi Pikoli. (IOL)
• UNASUR leaders express fresh concerns over Colombian plans to grant United States troops access to its military bases but cannot agree on a declaration to formally condemn the proposals. Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez warns that "the winds of war are beginning to blow" across the region. (MercoPress)
• Former Cuban President Fidel Castro calls Colombia "disloyal", saying the pending military deal with the United States could be used to attack other Latin American countries. (MercoPress) (Granma)
• A court in Burma finds Aung San Suu Kyi guilty of violating the terms of her detention, and sentences her to a further 18 months house arrest. (BBC) (The Straits Times) (The Bangkok Post) (Al Jazeera)
• Rescue operations continue in southern China and Taiwan in the aftermath of Typhoon Morakot. (The Times) (Taiwan News)
• Two strong earthquakes hit Asia; a 7.6 magnitude quake off the Indian Andaman Islands and a 6.5 magnitude quake in the Tokyo area of Japan, killing one and injuring dozens. (Press Association) (Associated Press) (BBC)
• A German court sentences former Nazi army commander Josef Scheungraber to life in prison for his role in the murder of 10 Italians in Tuscany in 1944. (RTÉ) (BBC) (IOL) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
• Thousands of people worship a baby born with four arms and four legs in Ramechhap, Nepal, revering him as the reincarnation of Ganesh. (The Guardian)
• Kuwait foils an al Qaeda-linked plan to bomb a United States army camp and other "important facilities" in the country. (The Irish Times) (Reuters) (BBC)
• Nine corpses are recovered from a Handlová coal mine following a fire and explosion in Slovakia. (Irish Independent) The government meets in emergency session and declares a day of mourning. (TSAR)
• Argentina's Cabinet Chief Aníbal Fernández comments on the suspension of the debt-ridden Primera División by saying that football transmission should be free because it is not only a national passion but an industry that generates many jobs and activity. (MercoPress)
• Two members of the Russian humanitarian organisation Let's Save the Generation are found dead in Grozny, Chechnya. (Al Jazeera) (RIA Novosti) (Press TV)
• Police in Pakistan register a criminal case with former President Pervez Musharraf over the latter's decision to detain judges in 2007. (AFP) (Indian Express) (The Nation)
• The NASA Spitzer Space Telescope finds evidence of a high-speed collision between two burgeoning planets orbiting a young star. (BBC)
• Russian President Dmitry Medvedev delays sending a new ambassador to Ukraine after criticising its "anti-Russian" stance. (AFP) (Xinhua) (ITAR-TASS)
• A pilot flying from England to Ireland is airlifted to safety after his two-man aircraft crashes into the Irish Sea near Tuskar Rock. (RTÉ) (The Irish Times)
• Swedish Princess Madeleine announces her engagement to lawyer and longterm boyfriend Jonas Bergström, becoming the second royal in Sweden to announce her engagment after Crown Princess Victoria. (Aftonbladet)
• A Russian woman is arrested after throwing a teacup at the Mona Lisa portrait in the Louvre, Paris. (Irish Independent) (CNN)
• A passenger plane carrying 13 people, including nine Australians, en route to Kokoda, site of a hiking trail and famous World War II battle, is reported missing over Papua New Guinea. (BBC) (RTÉ)
• Nepenthes attenboroughii, a new species of giant carnivorous plant, is discovered in the highlands of the central Philippines. (BBC)
• Two Kenyans, two French, a Bulgarian and a Belgian held captive since November 2008 are freed by their Somali kidnappers. (IOL)

ITN candidates for August 11

Slovakia—2009 Handlová mine blast

Nine bodies found after Slovakia mine blast. Death toll expected to rise, an emergency session of government, an official day of mourning tomorrow, compensation for relatives of the victims. If anyone can find more sources for this it seems a good candidate (with some support of course). --candle•wicke 19:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

20 feared dead after Slovakian coal mine blast --candle•wicke 19:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, lots of international coverage I see. BBC Xinhua Houston Chronicle France 24 China Post RTÉ Independent Online Reuters India Chicago Tribune --candle•wicke 19:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support for sure - too many deaths :) - TouLouse (talk) 20:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support and you have a new article. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

20 people are killed during a fire and explosion at a mine in Handlová, Trenčín Region, in the deadliest mining disaster of Slovakia's history. --candle•wicke 23:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support Wikireader41 (talk) 00:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted --Stephen 02:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Ecuador

Rafael Correa

Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa is sworn in for a second term vowing to deepen his socialist “revolution”. (MercoPress) --candle•wicke 15:06, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support.yousaf465' 16:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. Normal ITN stuff. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Rafael Correa (pictured) is sworn in for a second term as President of Ecuador. --candle•wicke 00:39, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted --Stephen 02:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Jailed!

Ex-Nazi commander gets life in prison --candle•wicke 14:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. As it should be. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean "as it should be"? Is this not normal enough for ITN? --candle•wicke 18:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, yes I was unclear. I thought that life imprisonment was "as it should be", not unusual and not for ITN. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

This is however a Nazi and has been covered from Australia to South Africa. --candle•wicke 21:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Death of Eunice Kennedy Shriver

Eunice Kennedy-Shriver mit Surab Zereteli

Not because her brother was a US President but because she founded the Special Olympics. Here is some non-American political reaction for now. --candle•wicke 14:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The article says she funded the Special Olympics, not founded... Still, I don't think this should go on ITN. --Tone 14:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Which article? No, she founded as far as I'm aware. --candle•wicke 14:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. She was 88. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Aung San suu kyi

Got 18 months more... i think this is a definite international interest. -- Ashish-g55 13:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. Posting admin please note Chad-Libya and Mauritania ITNs which haven't been posted yet as well. --candle•wicke 13:55, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Hm... hard to say. I actually think that the ITN worthy event is when she finally gets released, at the moment it is just repeating of the old story. (Regarding two African articles, I'd like to have more opinions.) --Tone 14:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

There isn't much interest in replying to African nominations it seems. The one posted yesterday was first nominated last week... --candle•wicke 14:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

well as i said this one is for "interest" rather than importance. even though her release would be a lot more noteworthy event, who knows when that will happen. -- Ashish-g55 15:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

weak oppose.--yousaf465' 16:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm truly surprised that there are any opposes to this. She is a major international figure who has won a great deal of the highest praise across the international community (both its leaders and its people) and the highest humanitarian and state awards over the past twenty years. This is receiving an even larger response than the Saffron Revolution did. Strong support. Therequiembellishere (talk) 04:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'm quite surprised that the death of Les Paul has received more support than the death of the founder of the Special Olympics. :) And yeah, she's been blocked from taking part in the elections too. --candle•wicke 21:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon

Update line for Typhoon Morakot to "Typhoon Morakot kills at least 70 people and leaves more than 10,000 missing in the Philippines, Taiwan and China" Cyclonebiskit (talk) 09:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Updating. --Tone 12:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Earthquake in Japan

2009 Honshu earthquake - 1 death ; 63 injuries - (Associated Press) (BBC) -- TouLouse (talk) 13:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Not enough death and nothing else apparently significant at this stage. --candle•wicke 13:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

August 10

August 10, 2009 (2009-08-10) (Monday)

• In an open letter four South African opposition leaders accuse President Jacob Zuma of abuse of power after his naming of Sandile Ngcobo as Chief Justice. The office of President Jacob Zuma responds by saying there was "nothing unconstitutional" in Zuma's action. (The Times) (IOL)
• The UNASUR summit opens in Quito to discuss issues such as Venezuela's “ethics responsibility” clause, Colombian military bases and the Honduras crisis. (MercoPress)
• At the funeral of Vice-President Joseph Msika, President Robert Mugabe lashes out at "racist" western countries, saying "Zimbabwe need not be tied to any one corner of the world, least of all, to a corner of former imperialist and racist colonisers". (The Times) (IOL)
• During a tour of Africa, Hillary Clinton, the United States Secretary of State, attacks a Congolese university student for asking about the opinion of her husband Bill Clinton. (IOL) (New York Daily News) (ABC News) (The Guardian)
• Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa is sworn in for a second term vowing to deepen his socialist “revolution”. (MercoPress)
• The interim government in Honduras agrees to accept a delegation from the Organization of American States to help solve the political crisis in the country. (AFP) (CNN)
• Pope Benedict XVI triggers a “scandalous poverty” debate in Argentina, with Buenos Aires province governor Daniel Scioli preparing to meet with all Catholic bishops of his area. (MercoPress)
• The head of Hyundai Asan, embarks on a mission to North Korea to attempt to secure the release of a company worker. (BBC)
• Libya and Chad sign seven agreements to boost trade, security and political co-operation. (IOL)
• Negotiators gather in Austria for informal talks aimed at unblocking a 34-year-old dispute between Morocco and the Western Sahara independence movement. (IOL)
• The head of MI6 John Scarlett denies complicity in the alleged torture of British detainee Binyam Mohamed, as the government rejects calls for an inquiry. (BBC) (The Times) (The Daily Telegraph)
• More than 350 new species—including 244 plants and 16 amphibians—are discovered in the Eastern Himalayas. (WWF) (The Daily Telegraph) (Xinhua)
• The Fatah Palestinian faction votes in leadership elections for the first time in 20 years. (AFP) (Al Jazeera)
• A series of bombings in Iraq kill 48 people and injure 231 in Baghdad and Mosul in continuing violence between Shiites and Sunnis in the area. (CNN)
• Ecuador’s Health Minister Caroline Chang says South America’s twelve nations have pledged to respect regional vaccine price ceilings to prevent businesses from exploiting fear of the A/H1N1 flu pandemic. (MercoPress)
• Two Namibians and a Chinese who are suspected in a corruption investigation involving a firm linked to the son of China's President Hu Jintao appear in a Windhoek court asking to be released on bail. (IOL)

ITN candidates for August 10

Tsunami Alert

[1] [2] [3]  Cargoking  talk  21:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I think we have to wait for the tsunami and then it has to kill and destroy, then an article has to be created and updated then someone has to come along with a desire to post it. In other words not yet. --candle•wicke 21:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 Andaman Islands earthquake -- TouLouse (talk) 04:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

South African Chief Justice nomination controversy—Sandile Ngcobo

I think there's still time to add this. Jacob Zuma seems to have attracted some "abuse of power" criticism because of it. Nomination plus controversy. This type of item has featured at ITN recently (although not the South African version) so I imagine there would be little opposition? I haven't checked so it might require an update but that can be easily done. --candle•wicke 16:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The update is too short yet. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

The bolded article isn't even Jacob Zuma (I think). --candle•wicke 19:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I've removed this one from ITN because of the reason above. Even when updated, I am not really in favour of it - stepping down or similar action would be ITN for sure but mere accusation is questionable. --Tone 19:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Well the justice was named. This has been enough in the past. This one has controversy as well. --candle•wicke 19:38, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda

Democratic Republic of Congo President Joseph Kabila and his Rwandan counterpart Paul Kagame sealed a restoration of diplomatic ties on Thursday in their first bilateral talks in over a decade. There is still time for this one I think if someone supports. --candle•wicke 18:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

This is a good candidate, do we have an article? Kongo-Rwanda relations or similar? --Tone 19:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been waiting a few days for somebody to OK it. Thanks. --candle•wicke 19:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh no! After all that it doesn't even have one... there's just Foreign relations of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Foreign relations of Rwanda but which one if any... decisions decisions... --candle•wicke 19:46, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps link and embolden both, each with updates that relflect the situation from Congo-Kinshasa and Rwanda? Therequiembellishere (talk) 19:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes, that seems like a good idea! Does anybody else agree? --candle•wicke 19:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Both are updated. 13 years after the countries ceased diplomatic relations, President Joseph Kabila of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and President Paul Kagame of Rwanda meet in Goma. --candle•wicke 20:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Posting. --Tone 21:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Chad and Libya

Libya and Chad have signed seven agreements to boost trade, security and political co-operation --candle•wicke 18:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

If I were to choose between this one and Kongo-Rwanda, I'd choose the latter. --Tone 19:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Why not both? This is today. The other is last week. --candle•wicke 19:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I find the other one much more significant... I may be wrong, of course. --Tone 21:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Muammar al-Gaddafi at the 12th AU summit, February 2, 2009, in Addis Abeba.

Done. Not only did the Prime Ministers and several ministers meet but the President and leader of the two countries as well. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and Chadian President Idriss Deby met separately to discuss means of implementing resolutions to give the African Union a greater role in resolving African conflicts taken at July's AU summit in Libya. The two also discussed means of preserving Lake Chad, which satellite photos show has shrunk from 23 000 square kilometres to just 900 square kilometres in the past 40 years, in part because of greater irrigation. The AU and Lake Chad bits increase the significance of this I think.

Therefore, Prime Minister of Chad Youssouf Saleh Abbas and Prime Minister of Libya Baghdadi Mahmudi agree seven deals to improve security, trade and political co-operation between the two nations as Chadian President Idriss Déby and Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi (pictured) discuss the future of Lake Chad and the African Union. The image was taken at the AU summit this year so it is recent and relates to what they were discussing. --candle•wicke 00:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The blurb is too long. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought so but it contains all the information. Is there a rule on length? I suppose it could be cut in half. --candle•wicke 19:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon updates

600 people buried. this is quite a big number. im not sure how we can add it to the current blurb but i think it deserves a mention. -- Ashish-g55 15:39, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done - I updated it with what I felt would be a more "impressive" number. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Karachi

• Police confirms that Rehman Dakait, notorious Karachi's Lyari Town criminal along with three accomplices has been killed in a Police encounter.(Dawn) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yousaf465 (talk • contribs)

Well not for Mainpage.yousaf465' 04:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Violence in Iraq. 48 die.

I think it's not so usual. TouLouse (talk) 14:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Are these three sentences connected in any way? --candle•wicke 14:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That's what I am trying figure out. I was trying to clean it up. Karachi is in Pakistan. There is no article or ref to Iraq. I dunno.  Cargoking  talk  15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

No connection with Karachi.TouLouse (talk) 15:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

This says 50 were killed last Friday which means this isn't that unusual. --candle•wicke 19:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

August 9

August 9, 2009 (2009-08-09) (Sunday)

• South African opposition parties call on President Jacob Zuma to withdraw Sandile Ngcobo as Chief Justice because he failed to consult the opposition and Judicial Service Committee. (The Times)
• Sri Lanka's governing coalition wins in Jaffna but suffers a surprise defeat in Vavuniya in the country's first post-war local elections. (BBC) (AFP)
• A million people are evacuated in southeastern China as Typhoon Morakot approaches. (The Daily Telegraph) (Xinhua) (AFP)
• A 6.9 magnitude earthquake hits Tokyo and eastern Japan. (Nikkei) (Press Association) (Reuters)
• Tonga raises the death toll from the MV Princess Ashika sinking to 93. (Bloomberg) (Matangi Tonga)
• Three bombs explode on the island of Majorca, Spain. (Bloomberg) (BBC) (RTÉ)
• At least 43 people are feared dead after a massive mudslide sweeps away three hamlets in northern India. (CNN) (RTÉ)
• A Kam Air plane bound for the Xinjiang Autonomous Region in northwestern China is diverted to Kandahar, Afghanistan after an earlier alleged bomb threat. (Associated Press) (Xinhua) (BBC)
• Former Taoiseach of Ireland Garret FitzGerald is among twenty Irish nationals who are quarantined at a French chateau due to swine flu. (Irish Examiner) (Expatica)
• A senior General from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard calls for opposition leaders Mohammad Khatami, Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi to stand trial. (Gulf Times) (Press TV)
• A same-sex marriage demonstration occurs outside the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform in Dublin. (The Irish Times) (RTÉ)
• The last of three men who escaped from a Belgian jail on board a hijacked helicopter are recaptured in Morocco. (BBC) (People's Daily online) (The New York Times)
• Seventeen people, including five children, are killed when a crowded bus crashes into a ditch after being side-swiped by an oncoming heavy truck in Mount Darwin, Zimbabwe. (IOL)

ITN candidates for August 9

2009 Hudson River mid-air collision

9 died TouLouse (talk) 10:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

A normal enough air accident I think when compared to other recent incidents. Deaths aren't even double figures. Location doesn't really make it any more notable. I think this might be a good DYK though. --candle•wicke 20:02, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Do we have to mention every single crash, bomb and shuttle launch? (No offense intended to anyone) Items tagged under "Hudson" and "Airplane" shouldn't be placed into ITN twice in a year.  Cargoking  talk  20:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

If this gets posted, while an Indonesian air crash (which had almost twice as many casualties) got rejected, I will have reason to accuse Wikipedia of US-centricism again. Cargoking's argumentation is good enough. Oppose. Offliner (talk) 20:59, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

MV Princess Ashika

Should the figures be updated on the main page for the Tonga ferry disaster if the sources seem reputable? News reports are saying that there are now, unfortunately, more than 26 missing. Scanlan (talk) 13:22, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

August 8

August 8, 2009 (2009-08-08) (Saturday)

• One of Southeast Asia's most wanted terror suspects, Noordin Mohammed Top, is allegedly killed after a 16 hour siege at a house in Java, Indonesia. (Jakarta Post) (BBC) (Al Jazeera)
• The second hearing in the trial of Iranian election protesters resumes. (Al Jazeera) (Xinhua) (Press TV)
• Local government elections take place in northern Sri Lanka, the first elections since the end of the civil war. (Daily News) (Reuters) (Press TV)
• A small plane and a tour helicopter collide over the Hudson River in the United States. (CNN)
• A suicide bomber detonates a bomb outside the French embassy in Nouakchott, Mauritania, wounding two. The attack is the first suicide bombing in Mauritania's history.(France 24)(RFI)

ITN candidates for August 8

Suicide bombing in Mauritania

Can anyone create an article? [4] --BorgQueen (talk) 19:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

2009 Nouakchott suicide bombing. --- TouLouse (talk) 20:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Now it just needs to be expanded. --candle•wicke 20:35, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Well? Anyone? Form an orderly queue please. --candle•wicke 02:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Even though its a first, 1 death (the bomber) is pretty weak. Spencer^{T♦Nominate!} 02:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

This one had only two deaths. Sometimes one death says more than dozens. --candle•wicke 14:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I expanded the article tonight and added references. Scanlan (talk) 00:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

President interview from before the French embassy bombing --candle•wicke 18:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Is it because all those who have commented haven't actually said support or oppose? Clarifying my support. --candle•wicke 18:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - as first attack of this type in Mauritania -- TouLouse (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Support as well - The attack is an unfortunate milestone in Mauritanian history. It is also important to French-Mauritanian relations. Scanlan (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon "Morakot" (Kiko)

See nomination below under topic Hurricane Felicia made by Howard the Duck....SriMesh | talk 03:37, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Morakot is the offical name and support ill try and get an article together this afternoonJason Rees (talk) 16:07, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. Wrecked huge damage.--Feinerman (talk) 04:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Suggest a blurb please. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon "Morakot" (Kiko)'s winds of 175 kilometers per hour winds with gusts of up to 210 kph created landslides, flash flooding, 6 metre high waves taking the lives of 30 in the Philippines, and six in Taiwan. 28,629 were affected in the Philippines but only 10% evacuated amidst the storm Friday evening, 252,000 were evacuated in Taiwan before it hit Saturday, over 953,000 as China prepares for the storm apporach on Sunday morning.XinhuaSunStar This is too long...will try again in a minute or two...SriMesh | talk 05:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Typhoon Morakot kills at least 36 people in the Philippines and Taiwan after producing a record-breaking 2489 mm (98 in) of rainfall. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I like that above one a lot,... this was going to be my shorter one...:::Typhoon "Morakot" (Kiko) hit the Philippines Friday night and Taiwan Saturday, killing, injuring and displacing citizens in torrential storms bearing high winds, flash floods and land slides, and is forcing the evacuation of nearly one million Chinese before making landfall there Sunday morning.SriMesh | talk 05:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

August 7

August 7, 2009 (2009-08-07) (Friday)

• The leaders of three South African opposition parties urge President Jacob Zuma to withdraw his statement on the nomination of Sandile Ngcobo to replace outgoing Chief Justice Pius Langa, calling it "unconstitutional". (IOL)
• Senator Miguel Carrioza says the Congress of Paraguay is not interested in considering the protocol for Venezuela’s incorporation to Mercosur. (MercoPress)
• Mel Martinez, U.S. Senator from Florida, announces his resignation. (MSNBC)
• Selvarasa Pathmanathan, the new leader of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, is detained in Thailand. (BBC)
• According to both Pakistani officials and Taliban insurgents, Baitullah Mehsud, leader of the Pakistani Taliban, was killed in a drone strike. (New York Times)
• Shootouts leave at least 11 dead in the escalating violence since Mexico's continuing national crackdown on the illegal drug trade. (AP foreign-UK Guardian)
• Ronnie Biggs, one of the participants of the Great Train Robbery, is freed on medical grounds. (UK Guardian)
• Bomb attacks on a Shia mosque and pilgrims at Shreikhan village near Mosul kill at least 36 people as Iraq's largest Muslim community marks one of its biggest feasts, gathering in Karbala to mark the birth of Muhammad al-Mahdi. (BBC)

ITN candidates for August 7

Mexico violence

11 deaths after a shootout in Pachuca, Mexico. I think that's need an article. (2009 Pachuca shootings) --- TouLouse (talk) 15:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Added information about this shootout to (the long article) Timeline of the Mexican Drug War and created above article. Thursday was busy in the Mexico Drug War with simultaneous shootouts occuring across several cities resulting in multiple deaths, injuries and seizures by police. (Perhaps the title should be changed) SriMesh | talk 21:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 09:21, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Coordinated DDOS across major sites.

how does this look. Ashish-g55 12:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Twitter is still slow. I'd support this too. –Howard the Duck 16:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Selvarasa Pathmanathan

• Selvarasa Pathmanathan, the new leader of Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, is arrested in Thailand. [5] Or perhaps we could wait until he gets convicted, as usual. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait I think.yousaf465'

The location of the arrest is undisclosed. Claims of Thailand and Malaysia seem to be speculation.[6][7] I have updated the article. The arrest was confirmed by Sri Lankan authorities who say he was brought to Colombo.[8] Time to put it up, do you think? ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

A change of the blurb is in order I think, to reflect the new info. ≈ Chamal ^talk 09:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support this. –Howard the Duck 16:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I tend to agree with yousaf465 that we should wait until he gets convicted. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Death of Baitullah Mehsud

• Nominate. --bender235 (talk) 15:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

No picture of his body to prove it? Not that I am desperate to see it, but he has been rumoured to have died before. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Second thoughts: we have official confirmations from both sides so I suppose it is solid enough. Support. Anyone willing to update? --BorgQueen (talk) 15:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. The article is a tad confusing but it does say he died. But 30 minutes ago AP wrote that the U.S. cannot confirm. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Headline on BBC states "There are growing indications that Pakistan's most wanted man, Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, has been killed by a US missile."... growing indications... still sounds a little iffy. its a support. but i would suggest waiting a little bit more -- Ashish-g55 15:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support due to the location I doubt if further evidence will be available anytime soon. The article Drone attacks in Pakistan has been updated also. AP is stating that plans for selecting his successor are well on their way[9]. Wikireader41 (talk) 23:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I would urge to wait, because our third source U.S the main culprit, still not confirm it and also there is lot of doubt still exist [10]. So we can't rely on these and than face something like government officials had to face on the occasion of his second marriage.yousaf465'

• His aide has denied his death, and say he is still commanding his force. they will be presenting such evidence. yousaf465'

the world press is reporting him dead. [11], [12], [13], [14]. anybody who claims to be Baitullah Mehsud from this point on ( I am sure impostors will be out there) will have an impossible task to prove he indeed is Mehsud. what is that guy going to do. provide DNA evidence ??? This is big news. I cant see how anybody can CONFIRM that Mehsud survived the attack either ???? would support using language like "Baitullah Mehsud reported/ believed to be killed in a Drone strike"Wikireader41 (talk) 16:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

It is best if we avoid weasel words on Main Page. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure. The fact I was trying to to emphasize was that he is reported dead by multiple RS. His notoriety and this extensive coverage of his possible death itself makes it noteworthy and a candidate for inclusion in ITN IMHO. also 100% confirmation is going to be very difficult & possibly will never happen according to some sources considering the locale. if there was a possiblility that we could get confirmation either way in a few days/weeks I wiould have supported waiting too. Wikireader41 (talk) 17:46, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with BorgQueen. yousaf465'

would US national security adviser James L. Jones statements help change anybodies mind Taliban leader's death a sign of success in Pakistan: US. 19:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Not really because Jones said he is 90% sure. The article is being updated. I would give them a week to find a belonging for DNA testing, and maybe another week for the Taliban to make up its mind. Four of these guys called the press to say he's still alive. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:56, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

neither of these is likely to happen in 1-2 weeks. You would need to find a dead body to do DNA testing with reasonable amount of tissue on it. a belonging just would not do. Some crazy from FATA is likely going to claim to be Mehsud Off and On. Wikireader41 (talk) 22:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

His aide told the BBC he is 'ill'. That's five phone calls to the press. Given the circumstances I think we ought to wait for certain news. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:36, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Government still not has material evidence for it, and also remember Tribal leader( who have an important say in any matter) have denied that he has died DNA test soon, says interior ministry. --yousaf465' 05:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

August 6

August 6, 2009 (2009-08-06) (Thursday)

• 64th anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings
  • Japan calls for a nuclear-weapons-free world as it marks 64 years since Hiroshima was hit in the world's first atomic bomb attack. (RTÉ) (The Daily Telegraph)
  • Up to 50,000 people, including officials and visitors from countries around the world, attend a memorial service in the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park built directly below the point where the bomb exploded. (Al Jazeera) (Xinhua)
  • Speaking at the ceremony, Mayor of Hiroshima Tadatoshi Akiba supports a call by United States President Barack Obama for the abolition of nuclear weapons. (The Guardian) (The Jerusalem Post)
  • The Japanese Government agrees to set up a compensation fund for 300 survivors of the atomic bombings. (ABC)
  • A poll finds 61% of Americans believe their country was correct to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. (Reuters India) (Brisbane Times)
• Supporters of Iran's opposition leader, Mir-Hossein Mousavi, battle riot police as they hoot horns and take to the streets of Tehran shouting "Death to the dictator". (BBC)
• An Indian court sentences to death three people for carrying out bombings that killed more than 50 people in Mumbai in 2003. (Al Jazeera) (BBC) (The New York Times)
• Malagasy crisis talks resume between interim leader Andry Rajoelina, ousted president Marc Ravalomanana and former presidents Didier Ratsiraka and Albert Zafy in Maputo, Mozambique. (IOL)
• New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key says he believes Fiji’s self-appointed Prime Minister Commodore Frank Bainimarama has given up on the Pacific Islands Forum. (RNZI)
• Argentina, Brazil and Bolivia express concerns whilst Peru supports a planned accord by Colombian President Álvaro Uribe to allow United States troops to use several bases. Venezuela announces trade measures against Colombia. (BBC)
• Brazil returns 1.500 tonnes of syringes, condoms and dirty nappies which were sent from the United Kingdom. (MercoPress)
• Micro-blogging website Twitter is knocked offline by a distributed denial-of-service attack targeted at a Georgian blogger. (RTÉ) (CNN) (BBC)
• South African photographer Neil Hartmann, accused of documenting Namibia's annual seal cull, is detained without charge for nearly seven hours less than a month after the arrest of two journalists. (IOL)
• A company manager claims that a 77-day occupation of a car plant by hundreds of laid-off workers in South Korea has come to an end. (BBC)
• Japan's first jury trial for more than 60 years ends with a man in his 70s being sentenced to 15 years in prison for murder. (ABC News) (BBC) (The Guardian) (The Independent) (The New York Times)
• Iran bans all pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan in an attempt to contain the spread of swine flu. (BBC)
• Hundreds of panic-stricken people queue at hospitals in Pune, India, to be tested for swine flu following the first death from the disease in that country. (BBC)
• The Iraqi cabinet agrees a draft law to restrict smoking in public places and ban tobacco advertising. (BBC)
• President Jacob Zuma names Sandile Ngcobo as Chief Justice of South Africa. (IOL) (Mail & Guardian)
• Sonia Sotomayor is confirmed by the United States Senate as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court, replacing David Souter. (Reuters) (CNN)
• At least nine people are killed and several inhale fumes after a fire at a retirement home in Melle, Belgium. (BBC)
• The Presidents of Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda, Joseph Kabila and Paul Kagame, pledge to boost economic and security ties after a rare meeting. (BBC)
• Scientists say they have decoded the entire genetic structure of HIV-1—the main cause of AIDS in humans. (BBC)
• News Corp. announces its intent to start charging online customers for news content across all its websites, including The Times, The Sun, The Wall Street Journal, New York Post and Herald Sun. (BBC) (The New Zealand Herald) (Reuters)
• At least 34 people are feared dead after their bus plunges into the Indus River in Pakistan. (BBC)
• The Slender-billed Vulture, one of the world's most endangered birds and said to be rarer than the Tiger, is twice successfully bred in Haryana and West Bengal. (BBC)

ITN candidates for August 6

Hurricane Felicia

Hurricane Felicia becomes the first cyclone to pose a direct threat to Hawaii since Hurricane Iniki in 1992.

A Google search of just "hurricane" shows that Felicia has more hits than Hurricane Katrina, which has had the most since 2005. I'm quite amazed that it has that many hits so I believe it is very much of public interest and a rare storm. Although it's forecast to become weaker before hitting the islands, the structure of the storm may allow it to maintain a higher intensity than forecast so I think this storm is definitely ITN worthy. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 01:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

sounds like crystal balling to me. oppose till it actually becomes a threat to hawaii. no point in posting "pose a threat" Ashish-g55 01:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

It is not crystal balling it is off a threat to Hawaii.[15]Jason Rees (talk) 02:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

i meant if it does some damage*... let it make landfall first. we dont usually post upcoming storms. before it makes landfall its pretty much crystal balling Ashish-g55 02:06, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the hurricane should be watched for sure...it would be truly devasting if it did strike Hawaii. I am glad folks are preparingSriMesh | talk 02:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose item as currently presented until significant amounts of people die or record breaking damges are caused. Isn't the US content enough with the judge and former President? --candle•wicke 02:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose until something actually happens. Algebraist 02:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

AP says that Felicia is weakening, but is still a Category 4 storm, and tropical storm Enrique has weakened to a tropical depression.SriMesh | talk 02:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Here's one pretty nasty storm. Section's in bad shape, though. –Howard the Duck 10:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support ABS-CBN News and GMANews.TV report Phillipines hit by Typhoon Morakot (Kiko) made landfall resulting in ten dead, ten villages flooded by four to five feet deep floods forcing evacuations of close to 2,000, landslides, mudslides, gusting winds up to 210 km per hour, altogether 28 villages or over 28,000 people affected. Search and rescue attempts underwaySriMesh | talk 03:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Supporta large number of people has been affected.yousaf465'

Japan jury

Japan’s first jury trial in more than a half-century The new jury system is the result of a major overhaul of Japan's legal system, aimed at speeding up trials and offering greater transparency... Until now Japanese trials have been decided by a panel of judges. --candle•wicke 00:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support Multiple WP articles should be updated with this new info Juries in Japan and Criminal justice system of Japan and the news article is hitting several independent news media internationally [[16]].SriMesh | talk 02:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

• Above articles mentioned updatedSriMesh | talk 04:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Any more supports? --candle•wicke 02:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Vulture births

Conservationists say they are delighted at the news that one of the world's most endangered birds has twice been successfully bred in India. Two slender billed vultures, which experts say are rarer and more endangered than the tiger, are being reared in Haryana and West Bengal. Just the type of thing an encyclopedia should have on its Main Page (I think). Article is at Slender-billed Vulture. --candle•wicke 00:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Leaning towards support. --BorgQueen (talk) 00:37, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This one too, I am leaning towards support for an encyclopaedic in the news entry, and it has been mentioned in three or four news sources now as well. Added three citations and five sentences ~ three paragraphs worth to the article.SriMesh | talk 01:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

support. population is said to be 50-100... that is amazingly low. Ashish-g55 02:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

support if population is at this level.yousaf465'

wait i read it wrong... thats only in cambodia. worldwide its more like 1k. still pretty low considering they got less than a decade to extinction. Ashish-g55 12:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Updated, posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

A rare meeting between DR Congo and Rwanda

The talks took place 13 years after the neighbours broke diplomatic relations. Would go well with Bill Clinton's rare trip to North Korea. --candle•wicke 23:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Any comment? Has anyone read or heard of this? --candle•wicke 02:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Belgian fire

The fire broke out at the Kanunnik Triest home, which houses about 90 residents. Only several people were killed though and it was at a retirement home so they were all probably old and about to die anyway and it was in Belgium (which not a US state) so it mightn't be enough judging by previous opposes and supports. But maybe worth a try anyway. --candle•wicke 23:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

It is tragic that nine died, three ended up in the critical care unit and 30 had smoke inhalation injuries, and the hopelessness/helplessness of rescuing the elderly and physically infirm from such a disaster, however at the moment other European news events are more notable.SriMesh | talk 01:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Which events? I think this is the only European nomination today so these probably should be discussed too. --candle•wicke 02:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, fair enough... Russia and Turkey agree on South Stream pipeline projectXinhua; However as I look around more now, a few hours later.... CBC news, Reuters and ABC News place this story as one of their top rated European news stories now.SriMesh | talk 04:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Death of John Hughes

• Is he significant enough? I suppose it depends how well he is known outside the United States... --candle•wicke 22:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Sorry to hear he died so young. I do understand the nomination I think. But I have never heard of him -SusanLesch (talk) 22:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Support - The deceased was a very important figure in their field of expertise, and was recognised as such. [17] SriMesh | talk 00:53, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, partly per this discussion. Being a film buff myself, I know who he is but he was in no way a maestro. --BorgQueen (talk) 01:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

ya he was famous but i dont think he ever stood out. like steven spielberg or peter jackson... so oppose Ashish-g55 01:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Putting my own opinions aside, apparently he "revolutionized the business of film" and was "one of the first directors who assumed a teenage approach to teen material". One review said Ferris Bueller's Day Off "exhibits John Hughes on an off day". That source also compares him to Judy Garland... --candle•wicke 02:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Note: Just noticed he is well ahead of any other article on the popular pages list and also occupies 4th spot. The Sotomayor woman is stuck in 7th with 23,000 less page views. Not that I'm for these types of statistics but anyway... --candle•wicke 02:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

According to this, the Sotomayor article had 426.7k views in one day of May 2009 when Obama nominated her. Hughes has 168k. Again, as if these stats supposed to mean something... Then again, if that's the case, if the 2009 Ashes gets to be added, then certainly UAAP Season 72 won't be that far behind, or is actually ahead... –Howard the Duck 03:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

International talks over Madagascar situation in Mozamabique

The country's four main political leaders, including former presidents Didier Ratsiraka and Albert Zafy, are meeting for first-time direct talks in the Mozambican capital in an internationally-backed effort to end the crisis. --candle•wicke 20:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Any comments? Madagascar is a serious international political topic which has featured on ITN in the past. --candle•wicke 02:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe these talks should be followed and the 2009 Malagasy protests /2009 Malagasy political crisis articles updated along with the related articles on Marc Ravalomanana Andry Rajoelina so that when a verdict, outcome results from these talks it can be reported upon here. It is a main topic with international and local ripple effects; hopefully the dispute can be successfully mediated at these talks...however something actually has to happen first.... IMHO SriMesh | talk 04:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

• Began the updates to the above four leaders article pages involved in the talks as well as to the 2009 Malagasy protests /2009 Malagasy political crisis article page. The talks are to take four days ending August 8, 2009. SriMesh | talk 02:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Timothy P. Villagomez

Timothy P. Villagomez sentenced to seven years and three months in prison for his role in the Rydlyme corruption scandal --candle•wicke 20:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Sonia Sotomayor Supreme Court nomination

Sotomayor is expected to be confirmed, based on the announced intentions of 98 Senators, and I would suggest adding this when the confirmation is officially voted on within the next few hours. Gage (talk) 18:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

hmm she gets nominated here everytime there is any movement in her nominee situation. i think this is like 3rd or 4th. oppose on a general basis that she is not head of state. then oppose again for the fact that she hasnt even been sworn in yet. Ashish-g55 18:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

None of the developments previous to today were as substantial as an official appointment to the highest court in the United States. I do not understand your logic. Gage (talk) 18:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

logic is quite simple. She is not the president of united states. every single country out there has some sort of supreme court or equivalent and they all have their own nominees. we only post head of state and that should not change just because this one involves US. we have already discussed this in quite a bit of detail before so i am not gonna argue over it anymore. if some admin wants to post it without consensus like they did last time then sure. but its an oppose from me. i will leave it to other people now. Ashish-g55 19:03, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you are so right. How dare I question your judgement? Gage (talk) 19:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Not that I am opposing your nomination, but the diffs you've linked to are from 2006 and 2005. Can you find a more recent example? --BorgQueen (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

lol 2005 diff looks like CNN? good thing ITN has grown in last 3 years. Ashish-g55 19:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

This happens every year? Thankfully ITN is a lot less US-centric now then. I think it belongs at WikiNews. --candle•wicke 19:38, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

A more recent example? Both diffs were of the most recent United States Supreme Court nominees being confirmed and sworn in. I see no discrepancy in a difference of ITN policy, within the last three years, that should exclude Sotomayor's inclusion, despite Ashishg55's claim. Gage (talk) 19:43, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I have to disagree. Wikipedia is a busy place, where a lot of things can change in just one year. I've posted a couple of items with slight hints of US-centricity myself, such as Obama's Cairo speech, and they were shot down just after a few hours. You see, it is not just about the ITN policy, but the general consensus of Wikipedia that we have to avoid any perceived Anglo-centricity on Main Page. I am personally curious how many hours your item will take to be removed from MP, if I post it. --BorgQueen (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no reason whatsoever for anyone to claim that the confirmation of a member United States Supreme Court is not worthy of being included. Gage (talk) 20:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

You are entitled to your own opinion, but I didn't ask for it. I was just trying to explain my position here, i.e. why I am not going to post your item. Perhaps some other admin might want to take his/her chances, but I am not thrilled to see the aftermath. --BorgQueen (talk) 20:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. How many more times is this woman going to be nominated? I'd hate to think what would happen if she decided to run for her country's presidency... and then if she actually got elected? --candle•wicke 19:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

None of the current items listed on ITN involve the United States, with the small exception of Bill Clinton in North Korea. Gage (talk) 19:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

SUPPORT. This confirmation (NOT APPOINTMENT) has historical value. Simply using "not Head of..." and an argument does not fit the process of the other In the News articles (journalists are not head of anything, nor are diseases). This section is "In the News", not "In the Government's Upper Epsilon." First Hispanic/Woman on the Highest Court of the most powerful country in the world is suffice enough for Approval Sirkevinalot (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. No it does not happen every year. This court is the third arm of the United States government. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

wow. i thought this has been discussed thoroughly but i guess people only come by when they need some particular blurb posted. YES this is "In the Government's Upper Epsilon" (well technically speaking). Every country has a government. would u rather have us post every single nominee or appointment from all sorts of positions in every country. And making claims about most powerful country is rather naive for ITN and will never pass. i can argue China is more powerful in many ways. Ashish-g55 19:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah well, since you're all here now do you mind commenting on any of the other international nominations as well? There are some which haven't been made yet but I'll get round to it soon when I manoeuvre my way around all the edit conflicts. --candle•wicke 19:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Deal. Collect the other nominees who have been confirmed/approved, and who are the "firsts" in that nation, and I will vote yea/nea. Simply being nominated is Such-and-Such Country is not relative to this nomination. She is of historical importance to our government. And Ashishg55, I will settle that the US is not THE most powerful, but rather "one of the most powerful." Sirkevinalot (talk) 20:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I meant ITN nominations. There are Belgian and Sudanese ones from yesterday which nobody has yet opposed/supported. There is also a jail sentence above this now. I would like sources for "one of the most powerful". --candle•wicke 20:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Here, (Wikipedia-G8), (Wikipedia-GDP). These outline ranks Sirkevinalot (talk) 20:18, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, apart from Wikipedia not being a reliable source for itself, I learned that the European Union (27 countries) was above the United States on several lists. But that's not an argument for here. --candle•wicke 20:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

• Support, she's confirmed and it's notable. Get her up there and let's get a woman on the main page for a few hours. Darrenhusted (talk) 20:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

just saying its notable doesnt quite make it so. please prove your point like we all have tried to prove ours above (many times before too). and quoting Sirkevinalot "She is of historical importance to our government" ..... seriously, whats our lol. are you assuming all of us here and ppl on wikipedia are all from US. Ashish-g55 20:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

And yet 25% of Wikipedia's traffic belongs to the United States. Gage (talk) 20:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Notable, for one thing, because the last justice was an ITN item. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Then it would be valid to post every single mistake and ITN that was taken down due to complaints in the past. And post her just because she's a woman? Even so, the two journalists are women so they outnumber Bill Clinton unless he can divide himself in three and have a sex change. --candle•wicke 20:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

• Well as i said earlier us discussing anything is usually a moot point since when it comes to US some admin will post it either way. most of the times without even coming to this page. go admin power woohoo Ashish-g55 20:53, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Supreme Court nominees are major news not only in the United States but in the international press. Added to ITN. Mike H. Fierce! 20:55, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
    • But how significant is it for an encyclopedia? Not how big is it perceived to be. Never mind. Again, in vain, is it too much to ask all visitors and guests to take the time to review some of the other candidates, please and thank you. (Note:ITN candidates, not Supreme Court candidates). --candle•wicke 21:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
      • ITN criteria state "international interest OR significance. Keyword to note is "or." –Howard the Duck 02:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This is a huge first not just in the US, but also for Puerto Rico and for Latin America more generally, a region of the world in which the US has a lot of influence. So there is a great deal of international significance. I wouldn't be opposed to covering more inner-workings of China, for example, but their legislature has only recently started exerting more control, so I'm not sure what to cover.--chaser (talk) 04:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. I opposed the nomination and feel I was correct, as the first nomination of a Hispanic candidate is not of sufficient interest or notability. However the first successful appointment is Nil Einne (talk) 08:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

MV Princess Ashika

26 missing --- TouLouse (talk) 06:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Support, suggested hook: MV Princess Ashika, an inter-island ferry operating in the south Pacific nation of Tonga, has sunk with at least 26 people missing, feared drowned. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 08:01, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Some changes to that proposal: The MV Princess Ashika, an inter-island ferry operating in Tonga, sinks, leaving at least 26 people missing. -- tariqabjotu 09:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The article is too short at the moment. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Is that enough now? --candle•wicke 16:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

August 5

August 5, 2009 (2009-08-05) (Wednesday)

• The 40th Pacific Islands Forum leaders' meeting opens in Cairns, Australia. (RNZI)
• Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is officially sworn in as President of Iran for a second term. (Press TV) (BBC)
• The funeral of Corazon Aquino, the first female President of an Asian country and the Philippines, takes place in the Philippines. (CNN)
• Brazilian President Lula da Silva says his country is “now advising the International Monetary Fund, IMF”. (MercoPress)
• Bolivian President Evo Morales expresses concern in La Paz about the possibility that the “Pinochetistas” in Chile and the “fascist right” in Argentina could win the general elections in those countries and that it "would be very serious for Latin American democracy and for South America". (MercoPress)
• Iraq's government announces that all Bremer walls will be removed from Baghdad within forty days. (BBC)
• 11 men drown when a boat sinks on the Nile near Khartoum, Sudan. (IOL)
• Two United States journalists, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, who had been detained by North Korea, return home with former U.S. President Bill Clinton. (CNN)
• Former Madagascar leader Marc Ravalomanana is hopeful that a relaunch of peace talks between the country's rival factions will bring progress toward a return of political stability. (IOL)
• A dog featured in an American film called I Love You, Man, which was named after assassinated Egyptian President Anwar El Sadat, leads to a court case as bloggers complain that their country has been insulted. (BBC)
• Fourteen people are shot at a women's dance class in LA Fitness gymnasium in Collier Township, Pennsylvania, United States. Three women die, as does the gunman. (BBC News)
• Eight people are injured when an Airbus A320 plane catches fire on one of its engines at Paris-Orly Airport. The fire is quickly brought under control. (Reuters) (BBC News)
• Three more men are charged with plotting a suicide attack on a military base in Australia. (BBC News)
• Ireland's Health Service Executive threatens several pharmacies with High Court injunctions if they do not adhere with their contracts to dispense drugs. (The Irish Times) (RTÉ)
• Part-nationalised UK lender Lloyds Banking Group reports pre-tax losses of £4 billion for the first half of this year. (Sky News)
• Chansa Kabwela, the news editor of the The Post, goes on trial in Zambia after being accused of distributing obscene images. (BBC) (IOL)
• Police fire teargas at protesters rallying in support of Lubna al-Hussein, the Sudanese woman facing 40 lashes for wearing trousers in public. (IOL)
• A court in Moscow opens a new trial into the murder of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. (RIA Novosti) (BBC) (AFP)
• A Chinese teenager sent to an internet addiction rehabilitation camp is allegedly beaten to death by its counsellors. (BBC) (Global Times)
• The United States White House defends its decision to award its Presidential Medal of Freedom to former President of Ireland Mary Robinson. (Irish Examiner) (The Irish Times) (The Sydney Morning Herald)
• Austrian police probe the shooting of two adolescents who allegedly broke into a supermarket and died by police. (Deutsche Welle)
• An anthem sung by FC Schalke 04's fans draws Islamic protests because of its reference to the Prophet Muhammad. (BBC)
• Romanians who fled Belfast following racist attacks return to Northern Ireland. (BBC) (The Irish Times)
• Belgian Justice Minister Stefaan De Clerck is under fire after three men with criminal records escape from a courthouse in Brussls. The escape follows the helicopter breakout of three inmates, including one of Belgium's most dangerous criminals, and the ladder breakout of six more convicts all in the space of twelve days. (Deutsche Welle)
• Former Argentine President Fernando de la Rúa is indicted in a bribery case. (MercoPress)
• Former Lieutenant Governor of the Northern Mariana Islands Timothy P. Villagomez is sentenced to seven years in prison for political corruption. (Sapain Tribune)
• Thirty-three people are reported missing following the sinking of the Princess Ashika ferry in Tonga. (RNZI)

ITN candidates for August 5

Sudanese boat sinks

"People on the island said they had not seen an incident like it for more than 40 years." --candle•wicke 21:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Sorry that several people died. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

But that's the point. Several people died in a way not seen for at least 40 years. --candle•wicke 23:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

All right. Does that mean we need to write a new article? -SusanLesch (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably. I wonder if there are many sources... --candle•wicke 00:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I found two sources. But only enough to write wikinews:Eleven drown when Sudanese boat sinks. -SusanLesch (talk) 02:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Here is another one. --candle•wicke 02:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Belgian escapes

Anything in this for ITN? --candle•wicke 20:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

"Freddy Horion, convicted of multiple murders, has now sued the state for not allowing him to exercise in the fresh air". --candle•wicke 20:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Isolated instance has nothing for ITN. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

• Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (pictured) is sworn in as President of Iran for a second term amid protests. Can anyone update Iranian presidential election, 2009 please? --BorgQueen (talk) 14:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I've updated Mahmoud Ahmadinejad myself (sigh)... posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I was beginning with the older articles. --candle•wicke 15:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Plane accidents - total 17 have died dozens were injured

• Merpati Nusantara Airlines Flight 9760 (August 2) — Continental Airlines Flight 128 (August 3) — Bangkok Airways Flight 266 (August 4) — Vueling Airlines Flight 9127 (August 5)....I think could be introduced all in one blurb. --- TouLouse (talk) 13:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose. Some of the articles are too short, and three of them have one to zero fatalities. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This is becoming more like traffic accidents. posting all of them would look very weird. oppose. i think a plane crashing in total catastrophe are only ones that should be posted not skidding off and everyone surviving unless something very uncommon happened (like landing in water or smth). Ashish-g55 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Collier Township Shooting of 2009

4 die TouLouse (talk) 08:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

support. I think it need a place now, but with expansions yousaf465'

Is this a notable shooting though? The article at present doesn't say much and, compared to 2009 Tel Aviv gay centre shooting spree (which was AfDed much more quickly in a similar state), there is nothing that stands out about it or has led to widespread political reaction, candle-light vigils, protests, etc. As American shootings go it is hardly up there with Columbine High School massacre and Virginia Tech massacre or even the Binghamton shootings from earlier this year. Also, this has happened already in Pittsburgh this year. In fact, shootings appear to be quite common in that country? --candle•wicke 15:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Therefore I oppose. --candle•wicke 15:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Article is now a redirect which is much worse than an AfD. --candle•wicke 15:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I also get this idea that these incidents are quite common in that country. Anyone belonging to that country could please elaborate. yousaf465'

i wouldnt call it common per say but yes they do tend to happen. we have featured shootings that generated worldwide interest before but this one doesnt seem too big. so oppose Ashish-g55 17:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

August 4

August 4, 2009 (2009-08-04) (Tuesday)

• A European Commission report finds that more than 50% of all Europeans regularly surf the Internet, up 33% in five years. (Deutsche Welle)
• Burundian police detain opposition leader and former journalist Alexis Sinduhije at Ruyigi in eastern Burundi, where he is accused of hosting an illegal meeting. (IOL)
• Pro-government activist, Lina Ron, surrenders to Venezuelan authorities one day after attacking opposition television station Globovisión. President Hugo Chávez condemns the attack, saying it helps his opponents brand him as a tyrant. (BBC) (The Guardian)
• Amos Kenan, Israeli columnist, painter, sculptor, playwright, novelist and leading intellectual of Canaanism died at the age of 82 in Israel, his funeral is scheduled for Thursday, August 6th, at a kibbutz cemetery in central Israel. (The Associated Press)
• Former United States President Bill Clinton arrives in Pyongyang, North Korea, and secures the freedom of two detained American journalists, Laura Ling and Euna Lee. (BBC) (Yonhap) (KCNA) (Al Jazeera) (The Times) (BBC)
• Georgia
  • The Russian and U.S. Presidents discuss in a phone conversation the Georgian situation and “the need to decrease tensions in the region,” America's White House claims. (Civil).
  • Russia establishes combat readiness of its troops in South Ossetia due to the situation. (Rustavi 2), (Civil).
  • Georgia urges the European Union and United States to help avert a new war with Russia, as tensions escalate ahead of the first anniversary of the 2008 South Ossetia war. (AFP via Google News)
  • South Ossetian separatists throw grenades into Georgian and Russian checkpoints. (Rustavi2)
• Police in Australia foil a major terror operation involving a suicide attack on a military base understood to be Holsworthy Barracks on Sydney's western outskirts. (Sky News) (The Age) (The Hindu)
• 5,300 people flee flames which thousands of firefighters fight in British Columbia. (BBC) (Canada.com) (CBS News) (National Post)
• Bangkok Airways Flight PG 266 crashes into a disused control tower at Samui Airport on the island of Ko Samui, Thailand, killing at least one person. (Bangkok Post) (BBC) (China Daily) (RTÉ)
• A referendum on whether to extend Mamadou Tandja's presidency for a third term is held in Niger. (BBC) (Associated Press)
• Gotland governor Marianne Samuelsson is forced to resign after she was taped arguing that a local businessman should be given favourable treatment. (The Local)
• UBS remains cautious about its prospects after client withdrawals spurred by protracted U.S. tax litigation drags the Swiss bank into another big quarterly loss. (Reuters)
• John Yettaw, detained in Burma for making an uninvited visit to Aung San Suu Kyi, is taken to hospital suffering seizures. (BBC) (AFP) (CNN)
• After a public demonstration in support, a High Court judge in Ireland orders the release of Thomas Cook staff, including one woman who went into labour, who were arrested after occupying the company's premises on Grafton Street, Dublin. (The Irish Times) (Reuters) (RTÉ) (The Times)
• About 100 Algerians and Chinese clash in Algiers. (Reuters India) (BBC)
• Nigerian President Umaru Yar'Adua orders an investigation into the recent sectarian violence in the north of the country. (NEXT) (Reuters)
• Opposition groups in Iran call for further protests ahead of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's inauguration. (Associated Press)
• The trial of a Sudanese woman accused of public indecency after wearing trousers is adjourned for a second time after police disperse protesters outside the court. (IOL) (Al Jazeera)
• Kenyan President Mwai Kibaki commutes the sentences of more than 4,000 death row inmates to life imprisonment. (IOL)
• Nigerian airport officials release a Ukrainian aircraft and its crew arrested in June with an arms cargo bound for Equatorial Guinea. (IOL)

ITN candidates for August 4

Crash of Bangkok Airways flight PG 266.

Tourist from many countries were onboard.yousaf465'

Not enough deaths unfortunately. --candle•wicke 19:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

While I agree I don't think it's significant enough for ITN, your comment is perhaps a bit poorly worded Nil Einne (talk) 18:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Death of Naomi Sims

The woman known as the world's first black supermodel has died at the age of 61. --candle•wicke 01:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it bit odd ? yousaf465'

I don't know. Possibly. --candle•wicke 12:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Improper Hand Signal Ticket

TheStar. Not gesture. signal. LOL. Dare anyone oppose this? (yes i know. i was just bored) Ashish-g55 23:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Death of Amos Kenan

Here. Don't know anything about this person but maybe someone else does? --candle•wicke 21:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Bolivia

• Bolivian Indians in historic step Bolivia has become the first country in the history of South America to declare the right of indigenous people to govern themselves... --candle•wicke 21:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Bill Clinton, American Journalists and North Korea

Bill Clinton visits North Korea to negotiate the release of two imprisoned American television journalists. (NYT)--Cdogsimmons (talk) 20:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

U.S-centric non-notable news unless the release actually takes place and Bill has a hand in it.--WaltCip (talk) 16:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

hmm can someone comment on how often does x/president of US has visited NK. This might actually be notable if it doesnt happen often. seems like a fairly risky visit. Ashish-g55 19:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

BBC "The last visit to North Korea by a former American president - Jimmy Carter in 1994"... actually this does not happen all that often. i think this story although US centric still manages to get worldwide interest due to north korean involvement. so i will give it support. also i believe both journalists got a pardon. Ashish-g55 19:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree it's US-centric but support anyway. Highly unusual given North Korea's secluded status. Would also support if it was Putin visiting. Colipon+(T) 20:57, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No, no, no. The blurb should be all about the release of the two, possibly with a mention of Clinton at the end but he can't be the focus. If that happens, I'll support. And a Putin visit would have been very different - he's still the Russian prime minister. Therequiembellishere (talk) 21:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree that NK's release of the journalists is the primary story. Suggest blurb be reworded as North Korea pardons two imprisoned American television journalists during visit by former U.S. President Bill Clinton. --Allen3 ^talk 21:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I think after seeing the headline "Bill Clinton meets NKorea's Kim on historic trip" in The Sydney Morning Herald I will support this one too. --candle•wicke 21:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Agree to above editors that Clinton should not be focus. Colipon+(T) 21:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

North Korea – United States relations then? --candle•wicke 21:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Bold-faced focus should be 2009 imprisonment of American journalists by North Korea. Colipon+(T) 21:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

That has already been on ITN. --candle•wicke 21:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Note: The BBC currently says (from about 1 hour ago): "North Korean state media say Mr Clinton has now left the country but did not say if the journalists are with him. However, US officials quoted by the Associated Press news agency said there was no indication that Mr Clinton's private plane had departed. The officials say Mr Clinton's mission was expected to end "within a few hours" and that, if all goes well, he would fly to the US with the women on his plane, according to AP." Perhaps we should wait for both sides to confirm this and for Clinton and company to actually be seen again? --candle•wicke 22:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

lol dont want him to get stuck in north korea. then thats a totally new category of news. i would support for both the journalist and the relations being bolded. if journalists were released without clinton this would not make it up. so i think his visit is equally big a headline. Ashish-g55 22:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

on second look i dont see much content in the relations page about this visit hmm. so screw bolding... Above suggestion by Allen3 is fine -- North Korea pardons two imprisoned American journalists during visit by former U.S. President Bill Clinton. Ashish-g55 22:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I would wait until the dust settles to report on this one. Colipon+(T) 23:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The visit only happened today so the relations page hasn't had much time to be updated yet. --candle•wicke 23:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Sigh, seems to have been posted anyway. Did everybody get their credits, etc? --candle•wicke 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

What's with this credits thing? I thought Wikipedia is voluntary work. This is not even DYK where "international-ness" is a reason to reject potential items. –Howard the Duck 04:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean? I was just wondering if all the usual things had been done but if they have it is fine. --candle•wicke 12:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Sudan

Sudan clashes - 185 deaths --- TouLouse (talk) 08:27, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Is there an article? Offliner (talk) 12:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Must be updated this article 2009 Sudanese nomadic conflicts...I think... ---TouLouse (talk) 13:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. Colipon+(T) 21:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Over 180 nomads are killed and over 30 are injured as they fish in nomadic conflicts in Sudan. --candle•wicke 16:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

August 3

August 3, 2009 (2009-08-03) (Monday)

• Bolivia becomes the first country in the history of South America to declare the right of indigenous people to govern themselves. (MercoPress)
• Georgia accuses Russia of trying to seize more of its territory as the anniversary of the 2008 war between the two countries approaches. (BBC).
• Several earthquakes, including one of 6.9 magnitude, hit northwestern Mexico. (USGS) (BBC)
• Continental Airlines Flight 128, from Rio de Janeiro to Houston, makes an emergency landing in Miami after severe turbulence, injuring dozens. (New York Daily News)
• Evidence that haggis was invented by the English is unearthed. (IOL) (News.com.au)
• Iran is reportedly ready to build a nuclear weapon, according to Western intelligence services. (The Times)
• Barclays posts a profit of £2.98bn for the first half of the year, up 8% on the same period of 2008. (Sky News)
• Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei formally approves the second-term presidency of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (BBC) (Press TV) (Reuters) (Al Jazeera)
• Water supplies in Chifeng, Inner Mongolia, China, are cut off to over 580,000 people after contaminants caused the hospitalization of 4,125 people due to gastrointestinal illness. (Xinhua) (Associated Press)
• A town in Qinghai, China, is sealed off after a second person dies of pneumonic plague. (Xinhua) (The Times) (Al Jazeera)
• Somali pirates release a Malaysian tugboat with 11 Indonesian crew after being held for more than seven months. (Reuters) (People's Daily) (The Straits Times)
• The Washington Post newspaper in the United States reports that officials are considering a plan to move Guantánamo Bay detainees to a prison camp. (RTÉ)
• An Australian radio show is axed and presenter Kyle Sandilands sacked from a television show after a lie detector stunt sees a 14-year-old girl say she was raped so her mother could claim Pink tickets. (Bangkok Post) (BBC) (CTV) (The Guardian) (Herald Sun) (IOL)
• 185 people are killed in tribal clashes in South Sudan. (Associated Press) (AHN) (BBC)
• The death sentences of more than 4000 prisoners in Kenya are commuted to life imprisonment. (BBC) (Capital FM)

ITN candidates for August 3

Bolivia

• Bolivia becomes the first country in the history of South America to declare the right of indigenous people to govern themselves. [18] Can anyone update? --BorgQueen (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This has already been nominated. --candle•wicke 13:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes but you didn't propose a blurb. You have my (obvious) support anyway, so feel free to update the relevant articles. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Mexico

• Earthquake - 2009 Sonora earthquake 6.9 Mw TouLouse (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"The Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre told Sky News there was no major cause for alarm or fear of a tsunami as it was contained in the Gulf. He said residents along the Baja coast may experience some light flooding but not massive damage". Thanks but I am not sure this ITNworthy (yet). --candle•wicke 19:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Note: Moved to 2009 Gulf of California earthquake. --candle•wicke 00:19, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ali Khamenei formally approves presidency of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

• Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei formally approves the second-term presidency of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. (BBC) (Press TV) (Reuters) (Al Jazeera) --BorgQueen (talk) 13:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support, three good articles and notable news. Offliner (talk) 12:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Maybe I'm not reading enough, but where exactly in the bolded article is this mentioned? -- tariqabjotu 13:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
      • It hasn't been updated yet. Anyone willing to help? --BorgQueen (talk) 15:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

+++++This one has been done now I think. --candle•wicke 16:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Pneumonic plague in China

• A town in Qinghai, China, is sealed off after a second person dies of pneumonic plague. (The Times) Can anyone update the articles? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I was looking at this one earlier and thought the death toll was a bit small for what after all is only the second least common version of the plague (according to the article). I was also unsure if one town is good enough for ITN as it does not seem to be internationally significant (at least yet). I will therefore wait for the input of others as it may be possible that some would make the same points. --candle•wicke 15:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, the population of the town is 10,000 which seems small when compared to this. --candle•wicke 15:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

sigh. very slow news week. i will support since there are 3 deaths now... Ashish-g55 15:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Would still support the Chifeng water system pollution over the plague thing in Qinghai. The Chifeng thing is extremely serious and I don't recall anything similar happening since the Taihu water tainting back in '06... it's just the article would need major updates. Colipon+(T) 21:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Deep Joshi

"Indian NGO activist, Deep Joshi, among announced 2009 Magsaysay awards, considered as Asia's Nobel Prize." -- Tinu Cherian - 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Are these awards open to anyone? --candle•wicke 14:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

See Ramon Magsaysay Award , Category:Ramon Magsaysay Award winners and List of Magsaysay awardees for more info -- Tinu Cherian - 16:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

My understanding is that it open to people from Asia only? This may or may not be good enough although it doesn't seem to compare to the other ITN awards so I will wait to see what others think. It could open up all sorts of regional awards as well so there may be wider consequences of including it. If it is included I imagine it would be a candidate for WP:ITNR. --candle•wicke 17:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

May be the award is for people of Asian countries, but it is a very notable award known all around the world. Refer to this article by BBC as 'Asian Nobel Prize' -- Tinu Cherian - 17:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I understand that and am just cautious of opening the floodgates to other awards so I will wait for other opinions before further action. --candle•wicke 17:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Any second opinion? -- Tinu Cherian - 14:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, there were many recipients to the prize[19], why should we choose this one? Choosing just him would be subjective selection. The prize itself is notable though. Offliner (talk) 14:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2

August 2, 2009 (2009-08-02) (Sunday)

• One person is killed and 75 injured after an outdoor stage collapses at the Big Valley Jamboree country music festival in Alberta, Canada. (CBC) (CNN)
• One person dies of pneumonic plague and eleven of his relatives are quarantined in Hainan Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. (People's Daily Online)
• Three workers from the Russian Emergency Ministry are killed in Ingushetia. (Kyiv Post) (RIA Novosti)
• Nine families who have been living in East Jerusalem since 1956 are evicted by force. (Previous reports of 'two families' are wrong.) (Al Jazeera) (AFP) (BBC)
• Merpati Nusantara Airlines Flight 9760, a Twin Otter plane with 16 on board, disappears over Papua, Indonesia. (Japan Today) (Bernama) (AFP)
• Two newly discovered works by Mozart—a prelude and concerto movement—are performed in Salzburg, Austria. (BBC) (Associated Press) (Reuters)
• A new strain of the virus that causes AIDS is discovered in a woman from Cameroon. (MSNBC)
• Chinese police detain a further 319 people over unrest in the Xinjiang region last month. (Xinhua) (Press TV) (Reuters India)
• Hundreds of firefighters on the Spanish island of La Palma in the Canary Islands are continuing to battle wildfires. (The Times) (The Telegraph)
• At least 33 people die and several are injured as a bus flips over thrice in Zimbabwe. (BBC)
• Around 2700 people are evacuated as 530 forest fires burn in British Columbia, Canada. (The Age) (AFP)
• A large oil spill occurs in Langesund, Norway, after a Chinese ship, the Full City, drifted aground. (Stockholm News) (The Local)
• Former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami criticizes the "show trial" of election protestors currently underway in the country. (Press TV) (The Independent)
• The death toll from sectarian clashes in northern Nigeria rises to 700. (This Day) (CNN)
• The BBC obtains a photograph showing Yusuf Mohamed, leader of the Boko Haram sect, was alive when captured by the Nigerian army. (BBC)
• The remains of Michael Scott Speicher, the first United States Gulf War casualty, are located in the Al Anbar Governorate desert. (The Irish Times)

ITN candidates for August 2

A new strain of HIV discovered

• A new strain of the HIV is discovered in a woman from Cameroon. (MSNBC) --BorgQueen (talk) 17:44, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyone willing to update? --BorgQueen (talk) 17:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe... though there's a large queue forming... --candle•wicke 21:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I think I will wait for some supports. --candle•wicke 22:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. --BorgQueen (talk) 11:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I meant from others. --candle•wicke 14:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know... A little humour please. Besides, it has been more than 2 days since the last update. Do you really need support from others, especially when this ITN playground is so empty and quiet? --BorgQueen (talk) 15:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

That's why I used the smile in case it is misunderstood as a negative. I am aware of this but asking has been unsuccessful, I have been trying too and I have updated two, one of which was opposed afterwards and the other AfDed. Mozart and others have also been opposed. I therefore thought it best to wait for some wider input before doing any more. It is based upon consensus after all. Playground? --candle•wicke 15:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Support.  Cargoking  talk  20:22, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. --candle•wicke 21:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Missing plane

Merpati Nusantara Airlines Flight 9760 with 16 people is missing in Indonesia The JakartaPost Congoo.com flightglobal.com Malaysia Yahoo News Indonesian Merpati flight missing over Papua --- TouLouse (talk) 14:22, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if 16 people is enough? --candle•wicke 22:17, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

16 people is definitely enough. We have posted many smaller air accidents as well. Those were mostly in Europe or USA, but the fact that this one is in Indonesia does not make it any less important. However, the article needs to expanded first. Offliner (talk) 22:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Which ones though? There are several examples with a lot more than 16, such as this, this, this or this. Iran, etc. isn't in Europe either. --candle•wicke 22:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

New works of Mozart

2 new works of mozart have been found. Not too many details yet. they are to be released Aug 2. i think this is definitely noteworthy but maybe wait till more details arrive? Ashish-g55 (talk) 22:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

More info appears. BBC. Ashish-g55 16:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, as they are only minor works. Offliner (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Gay shooting

Death, injury --candle•wicke 04:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Worst incident targeting the gay community in Israel --candle•wicke 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I began the article (it's currently at AfD though). --candle•wicke 15:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. This really stands out. (I won't be appearing on this page much for a while. I am on a wikibreak for a few days).  Cargoking  talk  20:59, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh. No. Do hurry back. --candle•wicke 21:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

No longer on AfD, this article (I realize there's no link to it; here it is: 2009 Tel Aviv gay centre shooting spree) is already B-class, well sourced, and ought to go up. Support. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 23:22, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

August 1

August 1, 2009 (2009-08-01) (Saturday)

• At least two people are killed and at least fifteen are wounded in a shooting attack at a building frequented by gay youths in Tel-Aviv, Israel. (Haaretz)
• 4,000 people are evacuated from the Canary Islands due to severe forest fires. (RTÉ)
• Former President of the Philippines Corazon Aquino dies at the age of 76 of cardiopulmonary arrest after complications of colon cancer. A memorial service and funeral is scheduled for August 5. (Philippine Daily Inquirer)
• Russia signs a deal to open a second military base in Kyrgyzstan at a Collective Security Treaty Organisation summit. (AP)
• The trial of 30 protesters in Iran who demonstrated in protests after the disputed presidential election begins. (Press TV) (BBC) (Al Jazeera)
• Thousands demonstrate in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, against a current security law that allows for detention without trial. (Bernama) (Al Jazeera) (The Times of India)
• Police fire tear gas and arrest over 400 people at street protests over laws that can see people detained indefinitely without trial by the authorities in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. (RTÉ)(Malaysian Insider)
• Venezuela orders 34 private radio stations to be closed. (CNN) (Al Jazeera)
• Chinese hackers target the website of the Melbourne International Film Festival for a second time as Uyghur leader Rebiya Kadeer is to visit the country. (AFP) (The Australian) (Bloomberg)
• North Korea says a South Korean fishing boat it seized "illegally" entered its waters. (Yonhap) (BBC)
• Six Christians are killed in religious unrest in Punjab, Pakistan, after days of tension following an alleged desecration of a Qur’an. (BBC)
• Rare Buddhist treasures, buried in the 1930s during Mongolia's Communist purge, are unearthed in the Gobi Desert. (BBC)

ITN candidates for August 1

Rare treasure found

In the Gobi Desert. --candle•wicke 18:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, Support , any photo? TouLouse (talk) 18:25, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. Could you please look at the Altinum nomination under yesterday and leave a comment? It too involves a discovery. :) --candle•wicke 18:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

aww i was hoping for like 7000 years old. well either way i support if there is good article somewhere. Ashish-g55 00:26, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... there doesn't appear to be... Gobi Desert isn't in a particularly good state... --candle•wicke 22:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Peru

• 17 deaths after a bus crash in Peru; [20] [21] [22]; Coverage: Accident source from Romania - [23] That's insignificant? --TouLouse (talk) 13:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Not after Sant Pol de Mar bus crash was opposed yesterday despite involving tourists from a different country and getting coverage around the world. That would be my take on it anyway. --candle•wicke 17:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Russia signs a deal to open a second military base in Kyrgyzstan

• Russia signs a deal to open a second military base in Kyrgyzstan at a Collective Security Treaty Organisation summit. [24] Can anyone update Kyrgyzstan–Russia relations? --BorgQueen (talk) 11:43, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Or perhaps better if we update the Collective Security Treaty Organisation article, which is significantly outdated, as well. --BorgQueen (talk) 11:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. Looks pretty good candidate to me.yousaf465'

Opposed for now per this comment by me. Moved to future events under November. --candle•wicke 18:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

8 killed in Anti Christian violence in Pakistan

• have started the article on 2009 Gojra RiotsWikireader41 (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Support. --candle•wicke 19:51, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Support -- Tinu Cherian - 12:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Posted. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)