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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialogue, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Martin, As you archive so regularly (unlike some editors ...) I thought that this would
a) Brighten up your page, and
b) Add a serious tone amidst all the hilarity.
All the best to you and yours –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. A lovely picture. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a little seasonal update - hope you don't mind! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all. The snow has almost vanished.
A Christian feast commemorating the resurrection of Christ; the first Sunday following the full moon that occurs on or next after the vernal equinox, neither earlier than March 22 nor later than April 25.
I hate this BST ... why can't we stick with good old GMT? (... it follows the sun after all)
Cheers!
— Gareth Griffith-Jones – The Welsh Buzzard – 10:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A brand of choc ice manufactured by the British Wall's ice cream
the act of eating

now, I ask you, what kind of alphabetical (or significance) order is that?!!

Yours, aye John Lemon

Have always loved that record. Good compilation of photographs ... who is the geezer in the middle — at 1 min 32 secs? –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For some reason, he always reminded me of Nixon!

Oh! Of course. I knew that really –
– Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Archives

2015 • 2014 • 2013 • 2012 • 2011 • 2010 • 2009 • 2008 • 2007

Wiki Jukebox

... my own personal permanent fixture tribute...

Please donate generously (.... and add whatever you like!!):

Up to Lexington 125 ....
guess I'll change my wiki name....
You can even hear the music at night
4 minutes of song-writing genius the wonderful version by Little Feat much better known, but here's the original. RIP Allen.
best ever cover of a Bee Gees song....(by very many miles)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!
The original manic clockwork duck with pals, live in Finland 1975.
"iconic" guitar from Mr Honeyman-Scott (what a tragic loss that was)
Phineas Gage Tribute edit .... thankyou User:EEng for reminding me of this superb gem!
Peter Andre tribute edit. Socket to 'em Agweeleria!!
Your groove, I do deeply dig. No walls, only the bridge, my supper dish....
burn (for you)
It's mahogany beef and the weevily bread ... (Oh poor old man)
"tara, ar' kid" - a truly magnificent song and wonderful performance *tears*
just superb - Sonny Rollins' sax on this must rank as one of the finest instrumentals in rock music ever.
that old Fifth Beatle, again (sigh)
just the 7 inches this time, Grace, sorry
my own beautiful ~~laundrette~~ George Michael tribute (suitably low-grade video, yes!!) [1]
hey sugar... do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do...
a bit of a hit, apparently... (Leo gets the velvet treatment)
Not the early one, That you can wish upon, Not the northern one, That guides in the sailors
... a prisoner of the white lines
... [2] what a classic
... [3] what a ridiculous suit
... [4] a charmingly light and deft chamber piece
... [5] ... then peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars
... jus' coz... (most favouritist Jankel guitar solo(s) evva evva) (and even more brillianter live)!!
... an incessant driving backbeat, jazz syncopated piano (mmmm, those trills), sly vocal, soaring blues harp... just funk bliss ... and news just in: [6]
... utterly stupendous guitar solo
... einige gute Ratschläge für Kinder von heute...]]
... [7]
... get daaaaaarn!! a classic
... and in similar vein
... cheers, Rambler! sheessh!! line 'em up, dude: [8], [9], [10]
... Jolly New Year!!
... 1975, top of their game, just wonderful!
... [11] ... and a classic interpretation
... and keeping it Viv, one hell of a region...
... 'Cause I've seen some hot hot blazes, Come down to smoke and ash
... There was spring along the ditches
... how Mystery Train should be played: [12] .. a masterclass from that 70s partnership made in rockabilly heaven.
... The one-shot deal don't matter
.. quintessentially English!! such a great album...
... RIP Horace Silver ... Jazz Omkring Midnight Denmark TV 1968 .... some guy called Cobham on drums, lol
... comes close to capturing visually the density of Dylan's imagery....
... thanks for reminding me, Paley, me' ol' china ... rescued from the archives!!
... "Lord, if it was not for bad edits, I wouldn't make no edits at all" ....
... some therapeutic squeals ...
... awesome from Georgie and Stevie, just amazing ...
... Oh! Oh! Oh-ho!! How it hurts... In the wardrobe of my soul, In the section labelled "shirts" ...
... We broke a case of proof 102 (original and best, pure grain vinyl) ....
... this one just for any Hillbillies who may be a-watchin'! (fnaaar, fnaaar). Sing-a-long now, y'all!! ...
... just tell him (what you want) ...
... R.I.P Jack .... "living beneath the volcano"
... spine-tingling song perfection in 3 and a half minutes ...
.. Alleluia!... simply the best, so, so, wonderful ...
... fun and educational a tough combo to beat. MarnetteD|Talk 23:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
.... "distant cousins, there's a limited supply...".!! ... way-to-go, Threeesie!
.... ain't got time for that now... Parliament- Funkadelic's Bernie Worrell on keyboards.....
.... there is a secret ... I think

Blocks all round?

"They've got womanly breasts under pale mauve vests,

Shoes like dead pigs' noses,

Cornflake packet jacket, catalogue trousers,

A mouth what never closes."

Please, Mr. Admin-robot, don't be a Blockhead.

Oi! Oi! ... Their shapeless haircuts don't enhance, Their ghastly patterned shirts.. (allegedly)

"You babes talk about your madison shoes We've got a thing we call the madison blues"

What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back? A stick!

I couldn't quite remember how to throw a boomerang, but eventually it came back to me.Boing

The other day I held the door open for a clown. I thought it was a nice jester.clown

Today

What is it with today? Nothing but vandal reverts all day.... The sooner we get them all back in class, heads down and working hard to pass their exams, the better. I blame the parents. Mr. Hankey = Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:31, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, two of them were actually on TV last night, alongside "Me Kyan Believe It Nat Custard" and a classic edition of Laurel and Hardy - well worth a look if you missed it! Quite surreal in places. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC) Nelson Mandela's "Smack and Crack Party Bag" a personal favourite: [13][reply]

So Sad (To Watch Good Love Go Bad)

Thanks for your latest "thanks". I am guessing that, like me, you are trying to make the girl "buck up" and stop wallowing in self pity.
Cheers Martin!— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:40, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It can get very dark in Sweden, you know.... But it seems something may be missing, alas. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:53, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This fellow has a way/has it away with the ladies. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 14:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chenies manor,

hello. Sorry we seem to have been tripping over each other editing the page. I noticed you inserted an inflation adjusted valuation for the manor supposedly converting the then valuation of £11 to £10,000 now. I would suggest that this number is wrong! I am extraordinarily skeptical that the equivalent of what is now the annual wage for a poorly paid person would have been enough to buy this manor at that time.

Incidentally, the figure of £11 is that quoted by wessex archaeology in their writeup and is no doubt what the original document said. I was concerned, however, whether this was the sale value, or might possibly be an annual income valuation. Sandpiper (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Sandpiper thanks for your message. Apologies for the edit conflicts. Yes, that value looked a bit low to me as well, so I've taken it out. Thanks for adding all that new material. I'm not sure that SM 27145 is really needed in the lede section. Maybe we could work it in later on, as the lede is meant to be a summary of the whole article? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning Martin and Sandpiper, I have just edited the Info' box to reflect its address. Although Chenies is in Buckinghamshire, Chenies village is in the WD3 postcode area, which is centered on Rickmansworth.
Therefore its postal address is Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)08:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. I knew it was near the border of the two counties. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:55, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dont have a problem about moving the reference number. There is more material to add yet and obviously the lead summarises the article contents, so rather has to be written last. I have changed it a bit because the information I added has rather contradicted what it used to say, about the current manner being built by the Cheyne family, whereas it is looking to be 'new' tudor work. From what I have read, this is not absolutley certain, but that would seem to be where the wessex archaeology/time team detective work has led. There is more to write up about phases of construction of the demolished north block, but it looks like this was the old house. I expect there will be a home for the ref number somewhere later, and it might have been nice if there was something more which might have been said in the lead about the earliest part of the house. Unfortunately it looks like all that is left is a basement.Sandpiper (talk) 09:07, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sandpiper. I'm sure your diligent research will be of great benefit to the article. Martinevans123 (talk)

Section blanking

Hi Martin, a couple of sections I added to the page Brian Anderson (boxer) have been blanked twice this morning by editor Banderson1961 – this is the only page this user has edited, and the account wasn’t used before today. I know your Wikipedia experience is much greater than mine – would you mind taking a look at the page when you get the chance to see what you think? Very many thanks! JezGrove (talk) 09:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and have a look. That does seem a bit odd and maybe bordering on disruptive editing. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How do I speak with you?

Hi I would like to discuss recent revisions to Brian Anderson (Boxer). Banderson1961 (talk) 03:46, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to discuss article content is at Talk:Brian Anderson (boxer). Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

message to JezGrove

As you are involved please find below a copy of the message I have sent to JezGrove:

Hi JezGrove - I'm sorry for the unauthorized editing yesterday. I really have little idea how to use this site. However the additional information you have added to Brian Anderson (boxer) is biased and without context. I don't know if it is your intention to be misleading but I just wanted to add some balance to the biography because I'm hoping that is the point of Wikipedia. I don't know if I have breached some convention as I am the subject of the page but if you are interested in writing a factual biography I would be more than happy to speak with you!Banderson1961 (talk) 03:55, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Kind Regards Brian Banderson1961 (talk) 03:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the copy. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest

I now understand that my edit represents a conflict of interest. What can I do to address my concern regarding this bio

Regards Bganderson1961 (talk) 05:50, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you are the subject of an article, it's probably best to make a declaration at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. If you think there are article content problems, simply discuss at Talk:Brian Anderson (boxer) Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. I have been advised to open a discussion on the article talk page.

Regards Brian Banderson1961 (talk) 08:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Martin, Thanks for your help - and apologies for dragging you into it in the first place! I've replied to Banderson1961 on my (rather dusty) talk page. JezGrove (talk) 08:59, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, Martin - thanks for your comment on the BA (boxer) talk page. I'm REALLY confused - am I dealing with two separate people both claiming to be BA now? Is there a way of checking? JezGrove (talk) 16:25, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think we need to ask Mr Anderson if he's created a second account by mistake, or out of newbie ignorance. He's said a number of times that he has "no idea how Wikipedia works", so I'm guessing it's an oversight on his part. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe, but one of them has been responding to my posts on my talk page (you're very welcome to take a look, though it's a social desert over there) JezGrove (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked Banderson1961 if he can explain Bganderson1961. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC) A social desert, you say? I do hope it's not because you are a bit too gobby. [reply]

...or even because you are a bit too thorny....

And just when I thought that I'd finally deleted any such suggestions from my WP page... JezGrove (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We may all need to take shelter from such a prickly specimen. I just don't like to see another editor getting boxed in. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If, after B(G)A’s eventual response, I’m left feeling a little mistreated is there anywhere I can take the issue? (I should have restricted my edits to saying that in the bad old days everything in prison was ‘orrible but that now it’s all ‘cushty’ – sadly, I just couldn’t find a reliable source!)

I could suggest a possible venue, but you might find it a little arduous. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, provided it's better than facing a lifetime of unwarranted abuse! JezGrove (talk) 21:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. You might even get remission. Prison Officer 'Sour' Crout (talk) 21:49, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For once I’m totally serious (ouch!) – I really don’t want to be on the receiving end of accusations of bias when I’ve been polite and open to suggested revisions. (At least in my eyes - I appreciate that these things are subjective, but then that cuts both ways). I’m not going to be online much tomorrow (some new work has just come in, and I need to do the week’s shopping in the morning before I make a start on it –ah! the joys of ‘working from home’) but if B(G)A accuses me of bias again is there anywhere I can go to defend my (albeit unremarkable) reputation? JezGrove (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You could go to AN/I. But that would be a bit like a snowball expecting to get a fair hearing somewhere on the West Coast. It's really just a content dispute. Believe me, it's rather obvious that you have nothing to answer in the bias department. BGA appears to be just a new editor who is keen to expunge anything from the article about himself that looks a little negative. User:Michig is the editor who created the article. I wonder what he has to say. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect he might be a fan (probably unfairly, but not overflowing with good faith right now). So I guess I’ll just have to fake it and let it go then! JezGrove (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just as I was in danger of forgetting it, good faith is always required - even when in short supply. I've now looked at User:Michig’s (very numerous) useful contributions and realised how totally unfair my last comment was – no disrespect was intended, and my apologies if any was taken. JezGrove (talk) 23:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you are sixpence none the richer.... ah, don't you just love Leigh Nash!

Thank you Martinevans123 I have responded to you both on the Brian Anderson (Boxer) talk page.

Regards Brian Bganderson1961 (talk) 18:26, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear both I dont understand much of what is written here between you both it appears to be in some sort of code! Yes I am a new editor but Im not sure what the relevance is!.. Just for the record I have not requested that anything be removed from the page. I attempted to delete it originally only because I didn't know what else I could do. My requests have only ever been that more content should be added to provide more balance. I know I can't win this argument you have all the power. I find it interesting that someone who writes anonymously about others (JezGrove) is so easily offended. I wish you could experience, just for a day, what it feels like for me.

My best wishes to you both JezGrove and Martinevans123

Brian Bganderson1961 (talk) 01:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your message, Brian. Apologies, you're not the only one who has trouble understanding my rather convoluted Talk Page. It tends to be a small oasis on nonsense amidst the stark deserts of verifiable facts. I'm sure most of us never have to worry about article content reflecting poorly on us personally. And I see at the Talk Page that the editor who originally created the article, User:Michig, shares some of your concerns about balance. In my experience, Private Eye is happy to dig up whatever dirt it can on someone just to fill its columns. That doesn't mean it's not all true, but it may not all be appropriate for inclusion in a wikipedia article. Prisons only tend to get in the news when there is a problem. But I can assure that any "power" that JezGrove or I may seem to have here derives wholly from the application of wikipedia policies. There is no reason why you can't also soon become familiar with these and feel equally empowered. You might even want to edit other articles. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:46, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Martnevans123 - I'm Grateful for your time and advice Kind Regards

Brian Bganderson1961 (talk) 05:49, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"sockpuppet"

Hi Martinevans123 can you tell me what a sock puppet account is!

Regards Brian Bganderson1961 (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With pleasure: Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seems familiar!

A few people around this place (WP, not your entertaining Talk Page) act like Miracle Mike – I dare say I’m occasionally one of them, though…. Have a good day! JezGrove (talk) 09:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Alas, I have to confess I am, likewise "fucked in the head". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - point taken! JezGrove (talk) 23:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jez, you have nothing to apologise for. You are always welcome at my Talk Page. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Martin. I see that Liz II has become the Queen with the longest reign, but it could be a while before she becomes the Queen with the longest snow! Sincere apologies to you and CS Lewis (and Liz herself, of course!) for that royally dire attempt at humour JezGrove (talk)

Ah yes, if I see Brenda I'll be sure to mention that. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:31, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whalley (ancient parish)

Hi Martin,

I noticed the link you added to Dunnockshaw and Clowbridge, and while you have linked to the correct Whalley, that article doesn't mention the ancient parish so I'm going to revert. Quite a long time ago I started this User:Trappedinburnley/Whalley (ancient parish), but as I didn't know much about it I got a bit stuck. Since then (time permitting), I've been working through the relevant articles adding info on the related townships, with a view to eventually completing the new article. Any contributions you could make would be welcome.--Trappedinburnley (talk) 17:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC) PS Are you aware of this? Wikipedia:GLAM/Clitheroe Castle Museum[reply]

Hi Trapped. Thanks so much for your friendly note. I'm must admit that I left that edit summary question mark just for you. I can see you've been very busy in your sandbox there and it looks very promising. I'll try and have a look. Thanks also for the castle link. I've been to Clitheroe a few times, but never to the castle. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:14, 11 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP

Anyhow, WP seems to be back up. Sca (talk) 21:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

coolios.

Mr Pastry

Linking to Richard Hearne? Are you showing your age, I wonder, or did your parents tell you how wonderful Mr Pastry was: see here. I adored him when I was a little boy in the 1950s and I can still see why. Tim riley talk 21:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a gem. Long before my time in fact, can only just remember seeing clips of him on TV. I'm pretty sure my father thought him a bumbling idiot, but I recall that my grandparents thought him "quite a card". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, grandparents is it? Right! That's all-out war. Tim riley talk 21:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, it's true I tell you. We couldn't afford a television until the 1960s! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pah! Tim riley talk 21:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hoe-Down

The article you mentioned is about the general style of the folk idiom called the Hoedown. Many composers have drawn on this basic fiddle-based dance music for inspiration. One that comes to mind is Don Gillis, who I studied with in the 1970s.

Having lived with both the Nelson and the Copland for more that fifty years I can assure you that they are completely different pieces of music.JaneOlds (talk) 20:44, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your place must be quite crowded. But do say hello to Oliver for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Elvis Costello & The (Visitor) Attractions

Hi Martin! I know in his early recordings Mr Costello / MacManus had a rather mumbled vocal delivery, but nevertheless I’m sure he expressed his feelings very clearly in his excellent song (I Don’t Want to Go To) Caersws! Having had a look at the page’s troubled editing history, I humbly suggest that if the locals REALLY want to stake their village’s claim to fame they’d be better doing so with: "It has one of the biggest clusters of IP editors of Wikipedia in Wales, or indeed the world"… (actually, maybe "one of the densest clusters" would be a more accurate description, on second thoughts! JezGrove (talk) 09:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Goodye Cruel Wales. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Then again, maybe the locals are right – after all, he’s been good at keeping secrets from an early age. JezGrove (talk) 10:14, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you're allowed lemonade in Caersws on a Sunday. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn’t realised that waiting for the pubs in Wales to open was like waiting for the end of the world. And there I was thinking that you were living in paradise! (Although I note that they repealed the law in ’61, which was a good year – and not just for the roses!) JezGrove (talk) 21:58, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, some parts are a bit dry. But this one was in the world top ten, apparently! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fantastic - I didn't spot that one in my battered out-of-date Rough Guide to Wales! Oops, forgotten my wallet (again!) - you couldn't get them in, could you? JezGrove (talk) 22:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you'll be having the draught, then. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you don't spike my drink! JezGrove (talk) 22:20, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Little chance of that. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you haven't already? Because I can't stand up for falling down! JezGrove (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peggy Mount

A editor has added an info-box which I have deleted as pointless (basically duplication of stuff in the lead). I am a fan of useful info-boxes (cricketers, politicians etc) but I think those that just duplicate the lead make Wikipedia look rather amateurish, and are unnecessary clutter. But if you disagree, I shall not object if you restore the IB. Pray ponder. Tim riley talk 12:09, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hard to know if she's suitable material for a box or not. I could see arguments swinging both ways. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) My view is that many articles look incomplete and amateurish without an infobox. I know opinions differ, but there seemed absolutely nothing wrong (or pointless) in that case. Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did someone say "Dry Rot"?? Never a dull moment at some articles, is there. Great to see the regular crowd suddenly breathing fire. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:27, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mind the stairs! Tim riley talk 17:28, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How very considerate. I will try. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:00, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly missed opportunity for a DYK

Did you know ... that there's a town in Arizona that's a total wreck? EEng (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

September 2015

This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did at Claudia Winkleman, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.

Aww, thanks. A friendly message from Claudia's Uncle Harry. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sky IP editors in Worcester are renowned for their friendliness.... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, maybe our Claude didn't say she liked tonight's Cha-cha-cha?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts exactly. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Don't know why, There's no sun up in the Worcester sky?" Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What a rebel, attacking an innocuous primetime TV presenter – do these people not realise that it’s all been done before? Of course, the earliest known example is of Aristophanes dissing a popular light entertainment act of his own day… (He beat Ben Elton to quite a few fart gags, too!) JezGrove (talk) 22:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Metalcore (Stairway to) Heaven? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:57, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He's not even from Worcester --188.221.227.100 (talk) 21:04, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh, how terribly intriguing. You may have a watertight case there. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds a dark tale. Should I release The school leopard slug on these miscreants? Irondome (talk) 21:17, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Who's not from Worcester, that's what I'd like to know? Could it be that the IP who geolocates to Worcester isn't from Worcester, or that the named editor who the IP claims not to be isn't from Worcester - but then how would they know? Ooh, it's a riddle! PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 21:22, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hahahahahaha. Well it beats having ip editors (who have been here for less than two years) nailed to the school walls, I guess. Our mysterious friend not-from Worcester is a bit of a Crowded House fan, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Father Jackum's polyphonic retort generator

Enjoy .micro.dot.cotton (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"OMFG". Not seen you for a while, Dot! I thought you'd been sent down for at least 30 years for giving Nasty Nick his last ever WP:GAR. But what a lovely musical gift! Hours of Manchester fun. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's a lot of malicious tongues round 'ere, and you know me, I ain't one to gossip, but apparently Ethel's ghost still lurks in the corridors, and has been seen at night asking "where's my willy?" .micro.dot.cotton (talk) 19:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ooo, tongues-a-wagging, eh? That's the last thing you need, dearie. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2015 (UTC) ... but everyone needs a friendly ghost![reply]

[14] EEng (talk) 20:40, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A great tool for all new users, I feel... "Big hello to big Father Jack Wayne, xylophone." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC) In years to come, future civilisations will say "Ah, so Wikipedia was useful, after all."[reply]

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Morriston's finest. "Totes fab'lus and well tidy."

We invent all these sports - you can't expect us to play them well, too! (Dragon's protruding tongue duly noted - but doubtless no more than we deserve.) JezGrove (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You do (well, maybe). You played well. We almost feel sorry for you(?) You can't beat a bit of Dragon's tongue now and again. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So THAT'S the secret - centuries of sneaky practice before we even stole the game from you, you scoundrels! I've often enjoyed a pint or two (I know, I know... but then I'm not a Rugby fan) of that particular brewery's wares but inevitably woken up the next morning "feeling (insert chicken-based cliché here!)" Anyway, congratulations on your victory - and good luck for the rest of the tournament. JezGrove (talk) 23:08, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, butt. Cwmaman's finest. Martinevans123 (talk)

I'm sure the England side will wake up 'over the moon' with Samuel L Jackson's words of wisdom ringing in their ears. (And my apologies, that should have been 'clichéd chicken-based homophone' above, shouldn't it - my standards are slipping, which is worrying considering how low they started out...) JezGrove (talk) 08:41, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have always enjoyed his commentary. But wouldn't be surprised to see Jules Winnfield getting called up as a centre at this rate... Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We might need him - we've got a mountain to climb and our hopes of clinging on in there are looking slim. JezGrove (talk) 10:38, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Blimey! These Japs are pretty resilient, aren't they. I can see Group B is going to run and run. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:51, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's truly incredible - I'm half his age, and already I'm running on empty. JezGrove (talk) 11:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you're anything like me, you just pretend that you're still young. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly do. (Whilst trying to forget about passing under sleep's dark and silent gate.) I saw Clyde perform For a Dancer as a tribute to James Honeyman-Scott (who had died the day before) at a very wet Glastonbury in '82 - from one pretender to another, I guess. The weekend tickets cost a shocking £8 - they were gouging us even back then! BTW, my own rendition of Here Come Those Tears Again usually lives up to the name (but not in a good way, unfortunately) JezGrove (talk) 11:54, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Caipirinha

Did you intend to restore Caipinheger? Normally if something goes unsourced, with source requested, for four years, it would be removed. WP:V says "All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material." This has been challenged, and there is no inline citation that directly supports the material. Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If there is a WP:RS, it should be restored. Who knows if that's four years of searching, or three years and 364 days of ignoring the tag? I guess you'll have formed a list of possible web candidates that fail WP:RS? Or have you just been thumbing through printed Portuguese cocktail recipe books? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But Caipinheger is still there? No-one's deleted it? It just needs a source? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it. You restored it. I'm asking why, since that seems to violate WP policy. Kendall-K1 (talk) 22:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies. I intended to restore it with a source. (I also mistook the tense of your question to be conditional future, instead of past). I've now added two sources, although I have to admit they don't look very impressive. Do you have an interest in Caipirinha, or are you just deleting claims that have been tagged for a long time? I don't see that these claims are particularly contentious or problematic, not that policy makes any distinction? Martinevans123 (talk) 07:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are 19 WP:RSs listed at Cocktail, so I guess if someone was keen to improve the Caipirinha article they could try and check some, or all, of those. "Cheers". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

World (Cup) domination?

Hi Martin - set on world domination, I see! Give the rest of us a chance, will you? JezGrove (talk) 10:54, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Being under brazil looks quite exciting! (But we don't really care, as long as we're above England, haha). Martinevans123 (talk) 11:18, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

23-13? Phew! ... looked a bit fidgety at times there. But Wales' effort just gets bigger by the game. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:52, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well done against the FeeGees – I wonder how we’ll do against the Australians? (Not a comment on the selection criteria for ‘British’ sportsmen and women, just a feeble stretch on my part – though they did first become notable Down Under, so the Aussies can have them if the Yanks don’t claim them first!) I guess we’ll just have to wait and see whether (falsetto mandatory) it’s a tragedy or whether we can scrape through to the next round. JezGrove (talk) 07:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I wonder if there will be cause for celebration. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe we'll be sick as a parrot JezGrove (talk) 08:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They think it's all over.... JezGrove (talk) 22:36, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"He uses his folly like a stalking-horse,

and under the presentation of that he shoots his wit."

- Will's Ghost, "As you don't Like it".

Q: Isn’t he a remarkable fellow, my lord? He’s as smart as they come, but just a jester.

A: He uses his clownishness to disguise his deadly wit. JezGrove (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shucks. rumbled again.

It's a shame that Owen "Vinnie" Farrell, who had played so well, got carried away with Old Git. At least one of the replays showed that the ball was actually nearby (even if it was in mid-air) when that shoulder came in. And Australia were not without a few of their own "wild tackles". I guess that's why we have the TMO. Even if the yellow card wasn't cast-iron, the penalty certainly was. And his departure did not really affect the outcome, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another victory - is there no competition you lot haven't got your eyes on? JezGrove (talk) 19:54, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Um... maybe this one? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough - though 'World Series' is a bit of a misnomer. Strange how our cousins across the Atlantic specialize in games only they play competitively. (Totally unfair of me - I believe they play baseball in Japan, too...) JezGrove (talk) 20:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, I think that's one of the reasons why WP:ITN is a constant battleground. Oh, and probably this one. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fools! It's clear that we should never have opened the floodgates by allowing Guy A. Sautter to compete in 1911! JezGrove (talk) 21:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha. What wonderful trivia. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - you live and learn, and then you die and forget it all as they kept on reminding us on Radio 4 a while back. JezGrove (talk) 21:57, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they're a jolly bunch over there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well... better luck against the Seth Effricens! JezGrove (talk) 19:43, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, or "dem fookin' prawns" as they're known in our house. Over the line three times, but not even one try!? waa-da-fu'???Martinevans123 (talk) 19:55, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

James Joyce

I'm not sure why you reverted the IP at James Joyce as the article is Non serviam and non-serviam was a redlink until I just created it as a redirect. Cheers. --RexxS (talk) 21:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't a red link when I reverted. I didn't quite see why [[non serviam|non serviam]] was an improvement on [[non serviam]]. I must have assumed that the re-direct was already in place - because that's how it looked when I clicked on it. Very sorry if I have put you to any trouble. It's great that even Latin phrases, that would not normally be given an initial capital letter, have to have articles that use one, isn't it? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you like them lower case you can have it, even non serviam and amarcord, says the monster, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) That's odd, non-serviam (with a hyphen) was a redlink when I looked, so the IP's pipe [[non serviam|non-serviam]] seemed an improvement. Oh well. It's all working now and the redirect is usable elsewhere. All those numerous places where we use that Latin expression, I mean. Best, --RexxS (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, I forgot. There was a hyphen. Which I evidently didn't even see. And we can't ever check if it was red, before you created the re-direct, can we, as now the re-direct exists, and means the red link is never there, when we look at past versions. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:02, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Much better, I think, Gerda. As we already have three articles for books called Non serviam, I think lower case might indeed be preferable. Upper case letters can be so common ,I find. Did Lucifer ever use it with a capital letter, I wonder? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:55, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edit

Your edit at Auden I have had to undo since you are attributing Harold Bloom's words to me. Though flattering, this is not any credit that I can take, so I need to do a friendly undo to restore proper attribution to Bloom. If you have any questions about the edit please bring them up here and I'll try to get make. Cheers. MusicAngels (talk) 20:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But there is no need to revert the links I added, is there? I've restored the quote, although it's still very unclear to me who's quoting whom, and why. Poems, like songs, are generally given in quotes, not in italics, unless published as books in their own right. A better place for discussion might be at the article Talk Page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are again attributing the Bloom material to me which I have quoted correctly and which you are attributing as my words. Please return the quotes where I put them to properly attribute what Bloom has written. Regarding your comment about poems in Italic that is true in general, but that is not how Bloom wrote it in his quote, and the Bloom version is how he wanted it written.

Occassionally, a poem's name will also appear as the name of a book of poems, and in those cases when the book of poems is being referred to, then the Italic version is to be preferred. Please return the quote to the way Bloom wrote since that was and is his preference. Your added link are a benefit and you can certainly return them, I did the undo because your edit was not attributing Bloom's words to Bloom. Please return the quote marks, etc, as I requested, thanks. MusicAngels (talk) 20:43, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've copied this discussion over to Talk:W. H. Auden. I'll respond over there, thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Bax

Glad to see you keeping an eye on the Britten article. (It does attract the vandals and loonies doesn't it!) I wonder if your interest in 20th British music might extend to looking it at the peer review of Sir Arnold's article, which I'm hoping to take to FAC in due course. Quite understand if he doesn't appeal, naturally. Tim riley talk 20:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tim, I have skimmed through that article, and I must say it's a privilege to even be asked to review it, So thank you very much. Alas, am a bit tied for time at the moment with stuff in the "real world" (yes, I think it still exists), so any review I offer will probably be for very tiny spelling mistakes and missing links (if there are even any at all, of course)! I know so little about Bax, that reading it will be a complete education. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC) peer review? you're more likely to get an end of-the-pier revue from me.[reply]

What a pleasing message to read! You are very kind. Perfectly understand that RL has a way of muscling in from time to time, naturally. Best, Tim riley talk 08:05, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You found the reference

		The Diligent Librarian Barnstar
		For exemplary service at the Resource Exchange, tirelessly delivering the reliable sources on which this encyclopedia depends, please accept this award. :) You noticed the Harold Bloom book with the two separate years, the one was for the hardback version and the other was for the paperback version. MusicAngels (talk) 20:59, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How very kind. Those trusty old hardbacks - much more reliable than those troublesome on-line sources. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:07, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cecil (Again)

I see Cecil the lion has raised his head again - quite an achievement under the circumstances! (My own - rather smaller - rescue cat has no teeth and probably now has a fear of dentists, and I'm with him on that one!) 21:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC) JezGrove (talk) 21:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I can't bear it. What's he doing with big cats when he should be just repairing occluded canines?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:31, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there some dental version of the Hippocratic oath that means they have to tell the whole truth? Actually, on second thoughts, let's not start them thinking about hippos now that the lions are out-of-bounds... JezGrove (talk) 21:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jezza, mate, it's a jungle sometimes out there. I had a spell of almost intelligent Talk Page discussion, but then someone said they had nothing more to say to me which, judging by past contributions, will be a real bonus. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:51, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Texas Lottery? You should be seriously considering your long-term investments in conjunction with an independent financial advisor or you'll be left with just 25p! JezGrove (talk) 22:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good news! Your cunning investment plan has in fact left me with a whopping £4.04!! And that's without my promised PPI next refund nest-egg.Martinevans123 (talk) 22:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've a feeling that you're overlooking the non-negotiable £100 fee for my original investment advice, though! JezGrove (talk) 22:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Minus the £4.04 - not sure what happened there! Should have been this, which looks the same to me.... JezGrove (talk) 22:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, you're a real pro, I see. Surprised you don't want my gold teeth too! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC) ...ah no, that was David Palmer, wasn't it, not Walter.... [reply]

Re: Et nequeo sine te, sine vita viuere

I'm glad to have intrigued you! Well, it might be that I'm just playing with words, but I know a lot of wiki people so it can always happen that some edit of mine be paid back in smiles, hugs, kisses or even hospitality. I don't keep track of those, while I have a couple separate accounts for actual wiki jobs, see Wikipedia:GLAM/BEIC and User:Federico Leva (WMIT). Nemo 15:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, how splendid. I had imagined you wheeling your cardboard boxes into the former Manchester Stock Exchange after a particularly fine improvement to the articles on Gary Neville and Ryan Giggs: [15]. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you keep deleting my factual additions/improvements to the Freud article?

I see no reason to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VivaElGeneralissmo (talk • contribs) 22:00, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know how to sign your posts yet? And can you please explain this wonderfully enlightening edit? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And this completely apolitical, not ideological, neutral statement. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, a real humdinger there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kay Sage

File:I Saw Three Cities (Sage).jpg	1944
	I Saw Three Cities by Kay Sage - 1944 Hafspajen (talk) 16:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Looks like Salvador Dalí, but without the onion. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, doesn't it? Do you think it is an allusion to Dickens? Have you read that? Hafspajen (talk) 15:06, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's so long since I read that book, I can only remember one of the cities. I think it was some terribly bleak place. But this looks like the sort of funereal landscape that would probably suit Jerry Cruncher. Sage is not a million miles away from Wolfgang Paalen, is she? And like him she ended up committing suicide. But if I had to describe the painting, I'd probably say something like ... "Like other works by American Surrealist Kay Sage, "I Saw Three Cities" is at once realistic and mysterious. Presiding over the haunting, abandoned landscape seen here is a guardian whose fluid drapery and sinuous curves recall those of the ancient Greek statue Nike of Samothrace. Sage’s sentinel lacks the Nike’s effervescence, however. Its drapery is animated, but its core remains rigid and static. This uncanny presence — neither dead nor alive, neither man nor woman — reflects the Surrealists’ fascination with robots and other forms of mechanization. Sage, whose husband was the French Surrealist Yves Tanguy, helped several French artists reach the United States after the outbreak of World War II." Martinevans123 (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HM; from Wolfgang Paalen, that's new for me ... interesting guy. Though, surrealism doesn't seems to be to healthy, now, for artists. Any thoughts on an article? You look like found some stuff on it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Such a bleak painting, I'd be surprisied if there was much more to say about it! But I'll keep looking. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe - Bleak ... well, maybe bleak, but rather suggestive. Hafspajen (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestive?? To me, it makes de Chirico look, comparatively, like someone from the Dutch Golden Age! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:59, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But I like Giorgio!!! Hafspajen (talk) 10:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he's a bundle of fun compared to Kay! Martinevans123 (talk) 10:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So Freud and Dalí meet again for the first time since 1938 - and it happens on your Talk Page! JezGrove (talk) 18:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How fascinating! I never knew.... at least I'm not the hostess with the mostess. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But maybe it could be a good look for you? (Just don't let Mail Online get a snap of you "looking all grown up"!) JezGrove (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one they took earlier. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC) I think this is Haf's cute way of getting me to "saddle up and do some editing"... [reply]

Appropriately hilarious! I've avoided Facebook so far, but then I didn't realize they offered to arrange free bunion tending, so who knows what the future might hold! JezGrove (talk) 19:26, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And again. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:48, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This needs a wider audience

**A word from the special one:**

*I roll my eyes*
*At all the socking (wooah-oah)*
*They all need blocking (wooah-oah)*
*Page protection too*

*When they return (when they return)*
*They are so fickle (wooah-oah)*
*Had to install Twinkle (wooah-oah)*
*Any 'dmin will do*

(from José and his Amazing Technicolor Comic-Sans signature)

I put this on my talk to no response - maybe it'll get more of a laugh here. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Any mop will do"? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

John Wayne Gacy

Comment added by 86.44.130.53 (talk)‎ 17:05, 22 October 2015‎ (UTC):[reply]

John Wayne gacy: he was executed. He death wasn't homicide unless you are trying to say bullshit like the DEATH penalty is legal murder which it isn't. I suggest elimating bias and just say facts. We are wikipedia we don't take sides we report facts

"Homicide" means: "The killing of one person by another, whether premeditated or unintentional; killing another person." That's a fact. The death penalty is legal, in some places. It doesn't count as "murder", to most people. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RVW

I say! That was quick: about thirty nanoseconds after I deposited my re-write in main space there you were, tweaking to excellent effect. You can't possibly wriggle out of clocking in at the peer review now, and giving my text a serious once-over. Ever thine, Tim - Tim riley talk 18:02, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

omg... I knew there would be a downside! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mention The Poisoned Kiss: it is my secret sorrow in re the Vaughan Williams article. When the Hickox recording came out, one critic wrote that it was like Gilbert and Sullivan – if Gilbert had written the music and Sullivan the words, but I have tried and tried, unsuccessfully to track down the quote for this article. Tim riley talk 18:46, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, that's very funny. Is that the only Richard Hickox connection? Maybe you can still sneak him in somewhere? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:54, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Will do. Tim riley talk 19:28, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rocket men!

An odd pairing - do you think it's their taste (?!) in earrings that brings them together? JezGrove (talk) 22:52, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not just the fur coats and high heels, then? I feel sorry for Rosberg. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Very good! One of my favourite examples of a weird fact on WP that turns out to be absolutely true is that Lewis Hamilton took up unicycling at the age of 12 because Rosberg could already do it and he didn’t want to be outdone. (As I’m not a fan of the sport, I really can’t remember how I came across that one….) JezGrove (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you know what they say... "a female wiki editor needs a male wiki editor like a fish needs a unicycle." Martinevans123 (talk) 11:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probably even less than that by all accounts. JezGrove (talk) 14:58, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It seems our efforts towards equality are just a drop in the ocean (well, perhaps in its circulation, anyway...) Martinevans123 (talk) 16:50, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A drink For You

	Iechyd da !
	An drink ..............for you! Hafspajen (talk) 10:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we ought to also go with a wee dram with that tartan-clad green lady| Martinevans123 (talk) 11:07, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Or some weird horse. Hafspajen (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, or even with old Grey Mary as she's known in South Wales. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More Decoration - no comments ...

Alice Roberts

The source given by Rodw does not support the claim that Alice attended Westbury C-of-E Primary (in fact it doesn't identify her primary school at all) so it doesn't support the information given in the article. Friends Reunited is therefore a better source for that fact.

Other editors have suggested that Friends Reunited is a problematic source. While not ideal, I contend that it is acceptable given that the information is not contentious. See the Alice Roberts Talk page for further discussion. Friends Reunited requires a login, not a subscription. A better source (perhaps you can find one) would be open access, not self-published, and would (unlike the edit I reverted) actually contain the information it purports to. Kind regards 2.221.46.231 (talk) 12:29, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So how many primary schools are there actually in Westbury-on-Trym? I would have thought the phrase "went to school in Westbury-on-Trym" from the Bristol Post does indeed support, if not entirely, a claim that Roberts attended Westbury C-of-E Primary. Yes Friends Reunited is indeed a problematic source and, for those who do not wish to "subscribe", is quite useless. One can't even judge the context in which the information is given? I actually opened that discussion thread in November last year (when I even defended the use of Friends Reunited as a source). Perhaps you'd care to add something there? It's hard to tell if you have contributed there before or not. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how many primary schools are in Westbury-on-Trym, but Alice's secondary school is located there. That means that a statement that she attended school in Westbury doesn't necessarily imply that her primary school was also in Westbury. The Friends Reunited reference is unambiguous.

A reference to a paper textbook (if unavailable online) is only useful to somebody who owns the book, but such references are acceptable to Wikipedia, as are sites behind subscription paywalls. Friends Reunited is more accessible than either of those categories.

Thank you again for opening the discussion thread on Talk:Alice_Roberts - I didn't recognize your user name initially. I have contributed to the discussion there previously, and may do so again.

I've reverted your edit on the basis that a poor reference - even one requiring a login - is better than none.

Kind regards 2.221.46.231 (talk) 13:02, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be better if WP:SPS didn't also apply. One can claim whatever one likes on FR and, as far as I know, there is no editorial checking whatsoever. That said, I don't know why Alice herself would want to make an erroneous claim about a primary school like that. I hope you decide to create a user account, that would certainly make continuous collaboration easier. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:13, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and thanks for clarifying the source access. Re: WP:SPS regarding "Self-published or questionable sources as sources on themselves" it seems that all five criteria are met in this instance.

I may well create a user account at some point, but it's just so hard to find a good name that's not already taken!

Kind regards 2.221.46.231 (talk) 13:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I found a really good name. But I had to add a few numbers. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For brightening up a way to serious discussion + talk page. Keep up the good mood! w.carter*-Talk* 22:13, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, thanks! That's nearly my one millionth barnstar (well, not quite). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 29 October

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Are you sure that's an error Reffy-Bot? Or is it the parameter error whose name can never be spoken? It doesn't show up on the page?? C'mon now, don't be such a tease. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:40, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like we might have to drain the swamp before too long. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Moore

I met Patrick Moore at a book signing and have got a signed copy of one of his books. Out of all of the people that I have written about on Wikipedia, he is the only one that I have actually met. Today's strange but true fact.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How amazing! Shame you didn't have a camera handy (although that can be so embarrassing). Oh, I could name names you know, old boy.... (but then I'd have to return all those lovely editing fees). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Considering all of the biographical articles that I have edited, it is remarkable that Patrick Moore is the only one that I have met. Then again, he did a lot of book signings. In the past, I have been accused of being pro or anti various people that I have never met.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! As if that would stop you (or me) being a pro or an anti! But, as you are begging me to tell you.... I have the same sort of signed books from this landlord and this explorer. I've also met a lot of psychos like this one, this one, this one and many more! But I've actually shaken this guy's magnificent hand and the thrill of that moment has certainly not gone. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC) ... oh and I once served Frank Bough a whisky and water. A man with a very loud voice, incidentally. oh, and I used to drink in the same pub as this guy and this guy, if that counts as "meeting".... [reply]

And here is the signature inside the book. This was in 1993, which amazingly is now over 20 years ago.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 21:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If that was mine I probably would have tried to add it to his info box by now! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It could be added to the infobox, but I'm not sure how necessary this is for an average article. Biographical articles don't generally have the person's signature, although articles about US Presidents regard them as a must-have.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 21:23, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a bit of a strange thing, I think, if the person isn't a writer. Maybe an image of Moore's ~~telescope~~ xylophone would be more meaningful. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rolf Harris

I claim no knowledge of the English judicial system, but are you absolutely certain English High Court judges are called "Judge Mr/Mrs Justice"? From what I can tell, the court document on for Sweeney's remarks on Rolf Harris and on High Court judge (England and Wales), they just use "Mr/Mrs Justice", and don't have an extra "Judge" in front. Cannolis (talk) 17:59, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's how I've always seen it, at least on first usage. If it's already clear, by means of context or explanation, that he was the judge, maybe it could be omitted. That source looks pretty clear and official. I won't revert you again, but it might be better to raise the question at the article Talk Page? Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be a combination of the American title with the English one. This is the first mention of Sweeney in the article so I completely agree with you that it's helpful to clarify that he was the judge. Would you be okay with leaving it there but de-capitalizing judge so as to make it not sound like part of his title? Happy to go to the talk page of course, but this doesn't seem so controversial that two people can't just hash it out easily. Cannolis (talk) 18:15, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cannolis. Sorry, I must have missed your reply here. Your change at the article looks fine to me. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC) I'm sure you can claim at least some knowledge of the English judicial system?! [reply]

Great, thanks! I guess I can claim a tiny bit now after reading the the wiki article on English High Court judges. That show looks amazing, and now I will imagine all English judges to be this fantastic. Cannolis (talk) 13:55, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If only. "Isn’t there an operetta called La Gazza Ladra?" Martinevans123 (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That is better than I could have imagined. Cannolis (talk) 22:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. For most of us in the UK , it's worse. But then, the Daily Mail often outstrips one's imagination. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:04, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5 million

We've reached five million!!

The English Wikipedia now has over 5,000,000 articles! Woo-hoo!

Feel free to pass this message on! You can never celebrate too much.

Eman235/talk 18:07, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, nice logo!! Shame we haven't got that one in the top corner of every page (or even if we saw a different one every time we refreshed...) But many thanks anyway! I guess we can all now look forward to next year. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:16, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't let that logo be not-used, so... Eman235/talk 18:35, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, knowing Billy as I do, that certainly makes me smile. I actually thought that all the logos were really good and all deserved to be used! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You've lost your toc

Wot! No TOC? — Gareth Griffith-Jones The Welsh Buzzard: Cardiff born and bred — 18:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Really?! I thought it was at the top? When did you see it last?? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I should call these people if I were you. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:26, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit, Gareth, your comments have left me even more befuddled than usual. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just so long as you don't lose your toque. That would be a real shame. Softlavender (talk) 13:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try. But I'm usually torn between one of these and one of these. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But have you lost your touch? That, my dear people, is the main thing. The worrying thing. Softlavender (talk) 09:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Allegra Versace

If you want to, you can take a look at the article about Allegra Versace. That article is this weeks TAFI.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How wonderfully generous of you. I've had quite a few friends who were notable dressers. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC) A TAFI you say? I wouldn't want to take out too much.[reply]

Flowery Twats, anyone?

"I say, Faulty, all this gender gap nonsense has just gone too far" ! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could be a er... "cunning stunt" to attract publicity. (Though they may need to prepare for a 'pubic lice' outbreak if they're still using Google Translate...) JezGrove (talk) 11:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. "Stuck in a Hole"? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:14, 3 November 2015 (UTC) [16][reply]

Gentle warning...

Don't look at any of Pizzarelli's album articles. You'll say goodbye to the next week. Passion Guitars/Passionate Guitars anyone? Who created all these? Seriously great player though! Gareth E Kegg (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes he is. And no I won't (possibly)! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC) .. and can also sing a bit, you know. A wonderful musician.[reply]

The pleasure of your company is requested

Patrons of this page are cordially invited to the grand opening of a new wing of the museums. EEng (talk) 13:46, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How very thrilling. One hopes it is truly a Monstrous carbuncle. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jeez, EEng, watching Titanic once was enough. Softlavender (talk) 15:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can still enjoy the comparative coastal shallows of his Talk Page? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:38, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah, whatevs, bot. Just shove a cork in it, will ya? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's fucking charming. DLP bot (talk) 13:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right!! That's it! It's AN/I for you, you scabby android replicant! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you weren't so damnably ambiguous, Martin, I wouldn't need to keep cropping up here. DLP bot (talk) 13:36, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're enough to drive anyone to seppuku !! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:45, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"How very R2D2 !" Martinevans123 (talk) 13:54, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Tales

Latest User:Neelix redirect to "facepalm"?
After the 1906 San Francisco earthquake toppled Louis Agassiz's statue from the façade of Stanford's zoology building, Stanford President David Starr Jordan wrote that "Somebody‍—‌Dr. Angell, perhaps‍—‌remarked that 'Agassiz was great in the abstract but not in the concrete.'" ^[1]
This week Nigella does... lard.
...and this from an editor who doesn't like cats! Maine Coons, anyone?
I LIKE MY CATS NAKED

Hafspajen (talk) 12:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC) :Corrr! That Beth Torbert's a bit tasty. She could keep me company on a winter's night. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 12:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ David Starr Jordan (1922). The Days of a Man: Being Memories of a Naturalist, Teacher, and Minor Prophet of Democracy. World book Company. p. 173.

You are welcome

You might want to clean up (Marie's the Name) His Latest Flame, which was recorded the same day. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 20:25, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PS, do you know the joke about the Louis Agassiz statue pictured above? It seems that Agassiz was much better in the abstract than in the concrete. yuk, yuk. Carptrash (talk) 20:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will treasure that. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I recently ordered, and am starting to receive, box sets (very cheap, c. US$10 each) of the music of Pomus, Shuman. Mann, Weil, Goffin, King (I already have a good Lieber, Stoller collection) - each is 3 CD, about 25 songs per, but there are no notes. So I am going through them all writing my own notes. Every now and then I get diverted into wikipedia to make some edits. Like now. so . . . ... welcome to my life. Carptrash (talk) 20:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey that's so cool! Some great song-writing partnerships there. I'd love to know where that stage name came from. The wiki redirect is a bit unexpected! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) As I've said to another editor who knows about these things, the article on Leiber and Stoller needs a lot of work, and I've sort of said I'll do something about it some time. I shall don appropriate garb, of course.... but if anyone would like to help.......... Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah-ha. I thought we'd be hearing from the Chepstow Chapter before too long... Martinevans123 (talk) 20:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Walkers on the Wild Side

Hello, I'm Chris Peter. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. --Chris Peter

Mr Peter, is there some explanation for this high-handed, hideous and harassing intervention?? I'm "all ears". Martinevans123 (talk) 10:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

TAFI

If you want to, take a look at the article about Marie Serneholt which is this weeks TAFI article. Regards.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OMG. Not another God Damn Woman?! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:52, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

YGM

Thanks, Martin, I've now sent you my reply to your reply. Please feel free to delete this when you've read it. Tlhslobus (talk) 21:55, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"The crate of tinned peaches you sent were very much to Sir Henry's liking." Martinevans123 (talk) 22:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC) ... will try and send you some of Sister Dolly's upside-down cakes when I get the chance, (nudge nudge) [reply]

Eh-oh!

Hi Martin, a bit of a strange one... I’ve rather haphazardly come across a page but happen to know its subject socially. (The circles I move in…!) We’re absolutely by no means 'besties' but she's a close friend-of-a-friend I'm still occasionally in touch with (and have known since infant school! - I'll be posting a birthday card later this week...) and I’d feel uncomfortable tagging the article myself (single reference, and perhaps on the promotional side of encyclopedic) but maybe you’d be able to give it the benefit of your much vaster experience? Or maybe I should just channel my inner child and let it go?! JezGrove (talk) 22:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, how touching. That's so sweet. Well, I'll try and have a look. Otherwise, I guess you could always blackmail her? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarrely, I happen to live in Royston Vasey - we even have a (very recently-opened) shop that says it's 'a local shop for local people', though I'm not sure how well they thought that marketing slogan through...! (And I knew the cartoonist Royston, who occasionally appears in Private Eye, at our mutual unprestigious university - in fact he's married to an ex-girlfriend of mine, so I guess it's official - I'm the least famous person I know!) JezGrove (talk) 23:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How chilling. You'll be telling us next you've appeared on Blackpool North Pier. Martinevans123 (talk) [17]

I was coming to that... JezGrove (talk) 23:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention ... Bethlehem, Pennsylvania: [18]. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:10, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Meanwhile

In between kicking lumps out of each other chez Sibelius, I have RVW at FAC, and any comments you might care to make would be welcome there. Also, having had productive dealings recently on Peggy Mount I wonder if I can interest you in Sybil Thorndike, who is my next candidate for an overhaul with FAC in mind? Pray ponder. Quite understand if you aren't interested, natch. Tim riley talk 21:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any comments?! I'm feeling a little waspish right now, alas! If only I could somehow escape the box wars... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I leave anything cube-shaped to your discretion, but a waspish view of any article at FAC is ideal. One wants the most rigorous scrutiny. But there is no hurry, and if you like to look in a day or so hence that will be excellent. Tim riley talk 21:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure by the time I get there it will be excellent already. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(watching with interest:) with a little magic the cubes have round corners, and show flowers and art ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're brave Tim. before you know it the FAC will become a "No infobox, really? discussion!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please excuse my dear friend "User:Dr. Blo-it-out-ur-ass-Feld". He's getting tunnel vision. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2015 (UTC) [reply]

N.B: the above comment is intended as a "play on words" NOT as some kind of match for Dr Ass-feld's editing ability or even as an allusion to some kind of strange sexual fetish. Thankyou. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC) ... love that German commentary!! [reply]

p.s. if you have any ideas of how you'd like to be insulted, at this Talk Page or any other, please email usual PO box - "I carry a xylophone and I'm not afraid to use it".

Precious again, your comment "it's a challenge to reach an intelligent compromise for the benefit of the reader"!

"Readers come first" is the secret slogan of my favourite candidate for arb, DYK? If not, see my user page, haven't campaigned since the (unsuccessful) RfA of Mkativerata. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a novel idea, I feel. Many thanks, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, how different the Sibeliusing would be with that in mind, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I searched for "everyone is an expert" and I found this. Says it all, I feel. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:27, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

stormy orientation --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Toussaint

Good work! I would do more there myself, but not for a few days I suspect. Still, I'm happy to let you catch up.... Curses.....!! Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:07, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, what a challenge. I think we both know that, of all the meaningless statistics at Wikipedia, that one is one of the most meaningless! (.. won't stop me trying, of course). Allen Toussaint a really nice guy. Notice to Appear with John Mayall one of my favourite albums. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC) [19][reply]

Special dedication corner: People fly high begin to lose sight, You can't see very clearly when you're in flight. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dr John

Why did you revert? :) ~ P-123 (talk) 11:35, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi P-123. Sincere apologies, it was a random error, so please ignore. I often get a late jump in my watchlist/ edit history at the moment I make a mouse insert. I put this down to slow rendering on my computer. Or maybe it's caused by a slow update from the database, I'm really not sure. Some of my unintended reverts are much more embarrassing - a partial bi-product of having a watchlist in dire need of pruning! So again, sorry about that. :) "M-123" (talk) 11:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I lurve the snazzy new signature, dahling. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have no truck with your flagrant and audacious schmoozin'! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay! Explains my puzzlement! (Am now playing . – he's as good as ever, :) ~ P-123 (talk) 13:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am enjoying the great sound too. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:51, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Never fails to please. Dr. John Plays Mac Rebennack (1981) one of my personal favourites. Even handy in a cap and gown. RIP Allen. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To canvass or not to canvass

Sometimes it does not pay to canvass ... [20] — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:51, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops. We used to have a few laughs. But not seen him for quite a while. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:03, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

...and there they are below. Like that moment you're sitting at home wondering why so-and-so hasn't called, and then there goes the phone! Cassianto^Talk 20:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Well lay back and relax while I put away the dishes". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:55, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

She is a dish. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:18, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jack agrees. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:32, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What does Jack mean by, "... washing dishes singing from the bottom ..."? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, the dark art of Monsieur le Plongeur. I guess we might have to ask Eric Arthur about that one .... Although, at one stage, I think he claims to be crooning from the bottom of the garden?? Unless, of course, it's one of those cases of misheard lyrics, like "Take the gibbon from your hair, Shake it loose and let it fall..., etc etc ? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Views

Hey,

I remember doing work with you before here and found you quite helpful. What are your thoughts of the Skyfall page saying the gross is 1,100 million instead of 1 billion? Four editors claim for it that it was to avoid any confusion from people who use the old billion (million million) in the UK, instead 1,000 million like the US, which the UK adapted 40ish years ago?

There has been a little fight for a while to get it moved back to a billion, just like loads and loads of other pages have it. But currently at a mild standstill due to four editors on one side, and four on another. I am for the change back to a billion in gross, would you be interested in helping to be a fifth? I for one, was taught 1,000 million to be a billion, and not a million million, which most of UK would have been also due to billion being adopted as 1,000 million 40 years ago.

Would be greatly helpful to move discussion from more than a 'talk' but to an actual finalised consensus which can be used, and let that be the end of it.

Let me know! Charlr6 (talk) 20:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1,000 million and 40 years ago is a very long time, isn't it. So I'd certainly go with that. But I'm all for standardisation, so maybe a global conversion to Indonesian rupiah would be the way to go - a much more impressive 15,099,221,156,740 IDR?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hah! as Al voiced so well. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"This is a local Talk Page for local people. We'll have no smelly old women here, thank you." Martinevans123 (talk) 09:27, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

St. Martin's Day

St. Martin's Day

Happy belated St. Martin's Day!! Hafspajen (talk) 13:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

-- Thank you very much, Hafs. I'll raise a glass to that! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Wine of Saint Martin's Day, by Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1569) *Looks like a definite D&D situation to me. – sca*

`

Hafspajen (talk) 17:08, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

HHAHAHA!!Hafspajen (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My actions at Metrojet Flight 9268

Hi Martin. I would be interested in your take on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Metrojet Flight 9268. --John (talk) 19:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. As predicted, conditions still seem a little stormy over there, don't they. I'll try and think of something civil to say. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh. How exciting. You must be terribly important. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:47, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's only me voting this year. So I'll be taking bribes. Please take a ticket from the counter, unless you have cash. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trust you are not talking about points. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:07, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! ... I found some of these whilst rummaging ... sorry, I mean these little beauties—would they do? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Um, I'd prefer luncheon vouchers, as I can use them on my next visit to Streatham. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I gave you a gem (above) - before even reading this. Will that do? - I voted, no offers needed in return. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure that will do nicely, Gerda. Although I may be a bit tied up for the next couple of weeks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:47, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit and Veg

I don't care whether the peaches were to Sir Henry's liking or not, as it's far more critical to know whether the consignment of cucumbers was to Lady Henrietta's satisfaction. This message will not self-destruct without assistance from the recipient. Tlhslobus (talk) 08:11, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lady H. was completely satisfied, I can assure you. Which is more than could be said for the cats. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:50, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Our Swedish occasional contributor would like that. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:24, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed. How do I find these links? They just sort of come to me. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:05, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ping Gallery II

Votre commentaire

Would that be the one about City Hall? Sca (talk) 23:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Revert? Sca (talk)

"You can't fight a bizarre Easter egg" - CityHall123 (talk) 08:51, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Не понимаю. Sca (talk) 15:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

это моя хитрый намерение Martinevans123 (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you kindly

I've never been one for quilting or weaving, so I'll leave the banner out of it for now. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 00:50, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ghettopoly

After a rummage in the archive, I found this photograph of Ghettopoly which I took at an open air market stall in 2005. It points out that the game was banned on eBay as it was considered to be racially offensive. It was £10 which I thought was a lot at the time, but today I wish I'd bought it, as mint condition examples are worth a lot of money. Don't expect to see it on Antiques Roadshow though.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:10, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I hope we see that photo added to the article! Or perhaps WMF can buy the rights from you? Unless, of course, it's one of those clever Chinese fakes. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:54, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about adding it. What do you think the licensing should be?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LIke this one, I guess. With some kind of fair use rationale? Except it's hardly a commercial concern any longer, is it. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:02, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK? In January 2010, eBay banned the sale of a Dad's Army board game because there were swastikas on the box.[21] All together now, "Who do you think you are kidding, Mr. Hitler?"--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:19, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, how wonderful. "He said ______* was “run by a system, by robots, with no brain who probably just vet the content without looking into anything properly”, adding: ”It's moronic." (...* please fill in encyclopedia name of your choice.) Martinevans123 (talk) 09:50, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a more detailed look at the Dad's Army board game from 1974. The triangular flags are clearly based on the opening sequence of the show. Even the ultra-politically correct BBC has not banned the opening sequence of Dad's Army and still shows it in its original form. The only Dad's Army episode to be banned (sort of) was Absent Friends from 1970, which sat on the shelf until 2012 because it featured a member of the IRA as a character. It Ain't Half Hot Mum has been less lucky, as the BBC has declined to show it for years, much to Jimmy Perry's annoyance.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What do we do? Airbrush all swastikas out of the history books? Sweep the Afrikaner Broederbond under the ANC carpet? Pretend there's no such thing as the KKK? But I see It Ain't Half Hot Mum hasn't even got a section on "controversy". Maybe it's just old fashioned? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:13, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article It Ain't Half Hot Mum should point out that the BBC has refused to broadcast any episodes for years, and that this has annoyed Jimmy Perry.[22] However, in November 2015, the BBC said that it would be available for download.[23]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it probably should. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Congrats on the page you edited becoming featured. Thanx Souttoa (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Red Barn Murder

Murder in the Red Barn - Please explain why you have removed my edit. Peter Maggs Peter Maggs 15:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

Did you miss the edit summary? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, but I did not understand it; as a very occasional Wikipedia editor, obviously I have missed something. What do you mean by a secondary source? Peter Maggs 16:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

My edit summary said this: "don't you need a secondary source, especially with a user name like that?" So I had two points. 1. With a new book I think it's usual to use a secondary source, not just the book itself, to establish its notability. 2. As you have the same name as the author I was guessing there might be some kind of conflict of interest, in terms of promoting your own book. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. I see you have been editing here for ten years - did you know you should sign your posts using four tildes? Cheers. [reply]

Thanks, useful comments. Actually I always sign my post with four tildas and I always, nevertheless, seem to get the message 'unsigned'. I don't understand what I am doing wrong...Peter Maggs 22:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

Perhaps you need to use Uncle Ben's?? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I only ever eat Basmatti rice... Here's an idea: clearly you have an interest in the Red Barn murder. Why don't you check out my website www.mirlibooks.com where there are some extracts from my new book; if you think it merits it, link it to the Wikipedia page. I believe my research significantly adds to the knowledge we have on the murder of Maria Martin. Peter Maggs 17:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

Ah yes, that explains it, but you always forgetting to sign is quite sad. But thanks for the message. What's all this about Donald McCormick manufacturing evidence in his 1967 book? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The evidence and an explanation is here, about half way down the page http://www.mirlibooks.com/extract-from-murder-in-the-red-barn.html --Peter Maggs 11:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

Hello again Peter, old chap. Charmed, I'm sure. That all looks very intriguing. I think it would only be fair to open a discussion thread at the Red Barn Murder Talk Page, where any interested editors could discuss the merits of including your new book. If not, they might always consider buying a copy as useful last-minute silk stocking-fillers. I don't know about you, but I could murder a good burger.Martinevans123 (talk) 14:50, 6 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. I must say how dapper you look in that blazer - didn't we see you on that recent Essex edition of Antiques Road Trip?? [reply]

Note to Peter Maggs: With Martin you have to look past a good deal of whimsy to see the wisdom. EEng (talk) 15:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Further note: save time and just make do with the whimsy. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:42, 6 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

I can do whimsy; I was never sure about that jacket though ... an impulse buy in Southwold. --Peter Maggs 17:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

From Southwold, you say? Well I hope you don't feel too bitter about it. I'm sure it's just the thing to impress the ladies when eating your Southwold fish and chips. But I think you've put an excellent post on the Red Barn Talk Page and I do hope it attracts some positive response. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:43, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on this; much appreciated. Peter Maggs 07:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Maggs (talk • contribs)

Hilary Benn

Hi Martin, thanks for the thanks. I see you just added the 'however' that I was thinking of including! Another (!) old girlfriend of mine lived next door to Hilary in Chiswick in the '80s when she was a student (there was even a connecting door upstairs, and she used to babysit his kids). Though she didn't get the use of the garden, because it had been amalgamated with Hilary's - we often saw Tony playing football in it with his grandchildren (yup, and smoking his pipe at the same time). JezGrove (talk) 00:23, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, I've gone to bed so I won't reply! As you know, I have been a firm fan of the pipe and still think it should appear in his article! Blimey, these old girlfriends of yours are a force to be reckoned with, aren't they. I thought Hilary's speech was one of the best I've heard in years - word perfect and delivered at exactly the right pace, sincere, thoughtful, candid. A slight echo of his inspired father. I found it quite moving. After hearing that, I honestly think he might be the next Labour Leader. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Eddie Mair played it in full on PM yesterday and it was excellent - Tony would have disagreed with the viewpoint, but been very proud nonetheless. I was with the girlfriend for about five years, and she was Hilary's tenant in the house next door to his own for the last three of them when she was at college in London - I probably stayed there almost every other weekend until she dumped me during her final year. She actually broke up with me in the living room there - almost thirty years on and I can still remember the record that was playing on the stereo! JezGrove (talk) 09:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this memory one? Good link for our cat-hating Hafspajen.— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:14, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Or was it Neil Sedaka?? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Surely this one? --Hillbillyholiday ^talk 12:13, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, ok Mr. HillaryBillaryHoliday. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:19, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, it was side 2 of Bat out of Hell - not my choice, though I don’t think that was the reason for the break-up! I think the turntable must have been set to repeat play but it’s possible that neither of us had the emotional energy to turn it off, or even turn the disc over – either way, every twenty minutes or so Meatloaf was singing, "And she kept on telling me, she kept on telling me, SHE KEPT ON TELLING ME…". Haven’t thought about that evening for an extremely long time – and this is the first time it’s occurred to me that maybe it was deliberate. (I catch on v-e-r-y slowly, if so!) JezGrove (talk) 12:35, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect, after only three plays, I'd have made a rapid exit. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where's John McDonnell when you need him?

We need John McDonnell to throw the book at this guy ! JezGrove (talk) 16:21, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently he harnessed the incredible power of the invisible mind-controlling Jackie to his own evil ends: [24]. Not to be trifled with, obviously. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC) I always found that magazine a fab fun read... But I never realized it could blow your head off![reply]

Good job his daughter found more inspiring things to read !JezGrove (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with your 'cat-hating friend' User:Hafspajen - never trust a miaowist! JezGrove (talk) 23:19, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Literally? Are you going over the Øresund? — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 08:16, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Mount in full cry...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06rcprp/the-good-old-days-19021976

Tim

(Tim riley talk 23:13, 5 December 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Quite glorious. Amazing we have no article for "One of the Ruins That Cromwell Knocked About a Bit", although it does appear in Marie Lloyd. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:18, 5 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. and I wonder whatever happened to Jeannie Harris, Chantal & Dumont, Albert Aldred and Jan Madd!!?[reply]

I feel a DYK coming on

I hope you'd be willing to assist in scaring up sources. [25] EEng (talk) 06:31, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As a Japanese Scouser myself, I can assure you that to help fit in with the locals it is advisable that one chooses a suitable name. -- Nick Yamōta

Hell's kittens, EEngie! Have you fully taken leave of your senses?? I suspect you've been overcome with a fit of the vapors. Dai Saiko, (Ystalyfera) 15:24, 6 December 2015 (UTC) ... or maybe you are just decidely "unhinged".

Do you think we can we get Squidlly Ranks' "Ugly Gal" to GA by Christmas?? Martinevans123 (talk) 00:03, 7 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	…some people have high opinions of their opinions Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But it's a little depressing when you used to respect those people and their opinions. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of humour would diffuse that little depression? Unser Mund sei voll Lachens? (Will be my Christmas gift.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dearest Gerda, I just listened, to Rudolf Lutz with the J. S. Bach Foundation of St Gallen. It's like a little piece of heaven has fallen, with divine laughter, to the December earth. How wonderful. Thank you so much. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Made my day. What a year, starting with Geh aus und suche Freud, written in joyless circumstances (see DYK), - you need to seek! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rhosymedre. Ave Virgo Sanctissima- but you might want to find another version. Libera nos. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 13:23, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness me, how beautiful is that Vaughan Williams. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I said I won't pass individual Christmas greetings, but as the cantata was mentioned on the Main page today, one moar dose of laughter for you - details on my talk -and thanks for your lovely composition!

Accidental revert

Martinevens123, I accidentally reverted one of your edits to Tyson Fury. Sorry about that! I restored the edits back to page (i am editing wp on a really crummy android tablet and I hit the revert button for you instead of the vandal above you in the recent changes feed). BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 17:17, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can't trust these crummy androids, can you. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:24, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)::Seems that existential edit conflict strikes again ... twice! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 17:30, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's just so depressing... Robevans123 (talk) 17:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've just not got the balls to fight back: [26] Martinevans123 (talk) 23:44, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of advice?

Hi Martin, I'm just after a bit of advice. I've added my suspicions about copyright violation (looks like it's been there for a while...) to an article's talk page - is there anything else I should do?! Thanks in advance - BTW I see England are in the same group as you in the Euro 2016 football finals - will we never learn...? JezGrove (talk) 00:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

laser

The gene subject is posion by chickenfears, but have fun, it is a lie your/media will perhaps enjoy.

what is to dificult for you. To understand.

The gene subject is posion by chickenfears < "the shalow inheritance" search for liberman etc, scientific wishful crocery

but have fun - they will have fun - we are serious.

the stupid will have fun based on lie

your/media will perhaps enjoy. <those who propagate the lie will maybe ejoy it.

To understand more you newed to know more about each part of the sentence. Start form paleontropolgy ... if you like realy understand, ask., If not do not expect we will lower to your understanding. most coherent is laser. if you look at it you will be blind. 70.214.34.97 (talk) 00:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Better not look, then. Not even sure I newed to know. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:48, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't believe the lie, Martin! Don't drink the Kool-Aid! Softlavender (talk) 10:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you don't trust it, that's enough for me! You're the real acid test. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I always thought this was. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:36, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Composer peer reviews

Can we lure you, I wonder, to comment on the development of William Sterndale Bennett and Albert Ketèlbey, both of which are up for peer review? I am just carrying the bags for both reviews, with others taking the lead, but I hope I can do a bit of judicious whipping-in. Not in the least compulsory, natch. Tim riley talk 16:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tim, I will try and take a look. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

File:Xmas Ornament.jpg

To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Oh! What's occurrin'??" Hope you're suitably tinselled up, dude. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

--

"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,

I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)

Hafspajen (talk)is wishing you a Merry Christmas.

This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.

Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Many thanks, dear Hafs. Help yourself to some vintage Andy Williams!! Martinevans123 (talk) 17:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC) .... alternatively.... enjoy some Black Santa Powered By Hoverboard ReinDeers.[reply]

WUUUH: Hafspajen (talk) 13:00, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yo Ho Ho

MarnetteD|Talk is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec15b}} to your friends' talk pages.

Make sure to click on both pictures to see them full size Martinevans123 as they will give you a chuckle. May your 2016 be full of joy and special times. MarnetteD|Talk 04:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings (Cyfarchion y Tymor)

.

Pick and choose according to taste: Have a Wassailing Winter Solstice (Gwasaela Heuldro'r Gaeaf), Merry Christmas (Nadolig Llawen), Grey Mare (Mari Lwyd) walkabout, or Happy New Year (Blwyddyn Newydd Dda).

May your celebration go with you. Robevans123 (talk) 08:54, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!

A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
May 2016 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls or vandals! All the best Gavin / – SchroCat (talk) 19:40, 20 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Yuletide felicitations

... and may 2016 be full of sunshine.

Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:21, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Oh what fun it is to ride in a rusty Holden Ute": [27]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, YES! That's exactly how it is with me and mine. (er ... not) :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:49, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I quite understand. So have some gorgeous Kylie. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 22:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Season's Greetings)

X

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

X

Frohe Weinachten und

alles gute zur neuen Jahr!

Wesołych Świąt i

Szczęśliwego nowego roku!

Linksmų Kalėdų ir

laimingų Naujųjų Metų!

X

Sca (talk)

Thanks Sca, Jutland look lots of fun. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:05, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Solstice & Season's greetings

Merry Christmas and happy New Year

Best wishes to you and your family. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:21, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What's a soltice? EEng (talk) 13:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"In 2009, a crowd wearing traditional costume, met at Stonehenge on December 21st morning to mark the rising of the sun on the shortest day of the year. But unfortunately their calculations were slightly out meaning they had in fact arrived 24 hours prematurely." Martinevans123 (talk) p.s. a seasonal poultice is fine by me, thanks.

Thanks, 13-and-sevensie. Hope you've got your druidical robes all set for the morrow. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas!!
	Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia! –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 16:20, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Davey. But I'm sorry, you'll have to remind me - the past, etc... Martinevans123 (talk) 22:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for the holidays... II

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh! Another card! How lovely. Many thanks. That teddy looks kinda familiar. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:25, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You-who, Ho ho ho, who else... Hafspajen (talk) 13:39, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No? How about like this?

Hafspajen (talk) 14:30, 23 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Best wishes for the holidays...

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Freud

Hi,

Can you provide any evidence that Vitz is a notable commentator on Freud? — goethean 21:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. See Talk:Sigmund Freud, or else you may get crushed by two speeding Santas. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas from the Jimbo Loving Troll!

I bring you seasonal tidings of good cheer

But at the same time your talk page should fear

A similar fate to the Graceful Slick's

Come Anno Dommini Two Thousand, Ten, And Six 81.158.100.81 (talk) 16:52, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And how is your esteemed trade association these days? Exposed any more gaping holes lately? Love to weev and all the kids. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:14, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Christmas!

		Happy Christmas!
		Have a happy holiday season. May the year ahead be productive and happy. John (talk) 17:38, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, John. What a very colourful and charming tableau that is! Martinevans123 (talk) 23:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And now for 2016

A view of Lake Bondhus in Norway, and in the background of the Bondhus Glacier, part of the Folgefonna Glacier.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:12, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, 2016 looks pretty interesting, doesn't it. Or are we all just hallucinating? I must have missed that fjord on my trip to Norway earlier this year. Or maybe I just didn't sample enough of the local produce?? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:50, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for the holidays... III

		Season's Greetings - Gott Nytt År!!!!
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Bring on the Champagne! Hafspajen (talk) 09:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Hafs. You look wonderful in that dress. Great to see it's good Norwegian Guy Charlemagne, and none of that cheap rubbish. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. Come and join me, there is a little place left on that silky divan! Hafspajen (talk) 11:25, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Shall I order a different brand

?Hafspajen (talk) 11:29, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But of course! Make mine a Ginger ale. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sending my servants! ... only ... Hope nobody will steal the stuff! on the road, it's a bit showy... Hafspajen (talk) 13:49, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think Slemmy-Lemmy have stolen your beer. Hafspajen (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Saved some, though. Hafspajen (talk) 17:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
oh, how do you like my new nationalist Guy Charlemagne outfit

Oh Hafs, you're such a sweetie, but I'd probably go for something a little more dry and smokey. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dry Martin, eh? You Can Call Me Al. Hafspajen (talk) 19:24, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, very dry, Hafs. But I like it shaken of stirred. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:31, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gavin Esler

Hi, you have added a link for lactose intolerance to the early life section on Gavin Esler. Had you found a source that named his illness, or had you inferred this? The references that I had seen didn't put a name to the condition, hence the vague wording that I had used. (For example a condition such as pyloric stenosis would commonly present at such an age and could lead to surgery). Drchriswilliams (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My inference and I expected a revert. The source is a paper one and I have never read it. I didn't see any direct mention of milk at pyloric stenosis, but I had assumed that lactose intolerance was a generic term. I will self-revert if we can't find an online source. But not sure about "thought he might die". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps adding this link would help? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:07, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it looks like I omitted to include the url to that Guardian reference, I agree that it should be added. I liked your change to the wording that described the episode in terms of his parents' fears, I thought that it fitted in the article a bit better than the way I had put things. Drchriswilliams (talk) 21:16, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've now added the url. For some reason I had assumed no url meant no web source, and that a medical link was better than what appeared to be somewhat lazy reporting. But it was Esler's own account and it's not explained. So I have now reverted. I've not been able to find any better source on-line. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gaining the trust of the community

Hi Martinevans123, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Mjroots (talk) 22:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC) Mjroots (talk) 22:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Gained the trust of the community"?? Ffs! how much did that cost you?? What a shame. I always looked forward to those "article has been auto-patrolled" messages, as it proved at least one person had read the article! (only joking). Thanks for telling me. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. didn't you ask other more senior editors if I can be "trusted"?? [reply]

As Henry Crun once said "Thank you for your support, I shall wear it always."

Any friend of James "Crun" Walter is a friend of mine! Haha. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:28, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, didn't ask. Took it upon myself

. Don't let me down! Mjroots (talk) 23:20, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At least six hoax articles have suddenly sprung to mind, including Sigmund Freud's goats and The Queen Mother (professional wrestling hold). Do you think anyone will notice?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:27, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You announce these and then silently make others, right? - Help, I need a DYK review for BWV 171, for New Year, quite soon, - it's a GA, shouldn't be too hard to do, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:40, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that naming of movement sections looks a bit minimal! I'll try and have a closer look but am travelling tomorrow. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:43, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is minimal on purpose, - you can reach any movement from anywhere without having to deal with German spelling. Tomorrow --- will be too late, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:47, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5 times expanded (within last seven days) is quite a lot, isn't it. Is that a strict criterion? I can see that you've some some excellent work improving that article. And it would be a shame if it missed out on DYK just because that technicality. But I don't know how to get round it?!Martinevans123 (talk) 23:57, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just add numerous "and", "if", "but" and commas? Just a thought from MONGOland.--MONGO 20:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15K worth of and", "if", "but" and commas might be pushing it? Fortunately the relevant criterion is "Promoted to good article status" so size is irrelevant. And I'm glad to see that Montanabw has now reviewed and found it to be fine.Martinevans123 (talk) 21:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(GA status is the criterion, easy. - Still needs an admin with a soul, who dares to push it into a full set...) Thank you for your support, also musical Welch wishes, returned with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am prepared to admit that Montanabw has a soul! Many thanks for your groovy bell: [28]. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:05, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now on the Main page, - Casliber had the soul! (The alleged owner of all horse articles couldn't promote as she had reviewed.) Click on bell for the soft sound of peace (and jest) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You realized that I have a soul! OMG! Don't let THAT get out, it will totally destroy my street cred as a "Serial defender of assholes, serial holder of grudges, serial accuser of socks, serial owner of horsey articles, and serial denier of Wikipedia's chronic issues with retaining sane, normal, humans as editors" and "a thin skinned dictator who OWNs all horse articles." LOL! Montanabw^(talk) 19:23, 31 December 2015 (UTC) [reply]

CAme like surprize no? Montana, could you leave Marion as it is? I have PLANS for him. Hafspajen (talk) 19:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Montanabw, you sure are one Crazy Horse. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:27, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	This barnstar is awarded to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. Hafspajen (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't make unnecessary journeys!! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2015 (UTC) p.s. [29][reply]

He's pretty good. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016

	Happy New Year 2016!
	Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unneccessary blisters. – Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:36, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Plant thanks you for your kind gift, and hopes 2016 is a real joy! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year Martinevans123!

Happy New Year!

Martinevans123,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. BlAcKhAt9(9 (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to user talk pages.

Many thanks. I guessed our paths must have crossed (?) I just didn't realise there were so many of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

White Bird link

You are questioning the link at [30]. I've looked at it twice today since it has been in question. Possibly I am able to view it so easily because I am registered at this site. If I am, it certainly didn't cost anything or take much to register because I don't do paid memberships for wikipedia sourcing. I am guessing it is a cookie stored somewhere in my browser. Now to your request to fill out wiki source format. I explain in my user page, I resist doing that. Its an awkward, time consuming process, but more particularly, it serves no purpose. You ask "What?" but that is not solved with the format. What we want here is verifiability. I provided that with the source, albeit a weak message board link in this case. It is there for you and anyone else to read (as I said, perhaps requiring you to do a free registration). Filling out the wikiformat does not make it any more or less verifiable. It doesn't capture or repeat the text. It does nothing. You are welcome to run reflinks if you think it is necessary. Trackinfo (talk) 22:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Trackinfo, thanks for your note. Filling out the wikiformat allows other editors, like me, to know that "registration is required". The first thing I did was to run reflinks. But of course it can't parse the page without the prior registration. I'm not sure you're aware how baffling the page looks if you're not registered - in fact, have you ever seen it? I've also looked for a better (and non-registration-required) source, since message boards are not generally considered to be WP:RS. But I can't find one. I have no problem with removing the "What", as it was added to prompt this discussion - although it might have been better to have had it at the article Talk Page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:36, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

		This-Is-The-Army gals wishing you a Happy New Year!!!!!
		Wishing you a Happy New Year, (They Long to Be) Close to You! Hafspajen (talk) 09:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, so much, Mr Jones. They look almost as alluring as the lovely Wilson, Keppel and Betty. Yes, they do "Long to Be (Close to Me)" ... but, fortunately, there is currently a 200 nautical miles Maritime Exclusion Zone. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:48, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Jones. (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm saying nothing. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:55, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank youMr Jones. (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Martinevans123!

Happy New Year!

Martinevans123,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 10:46, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Many thanks, Davey. And the same to you with brass knobs on. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome Martin and thanks :), Have a great day :) –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 21:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2016 - Yr wyf heintio bellach!

There was a real life incident like this (sort of) in 2008.[31]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:54, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A classic that one. "Mor falch o weld eich bod wedi dal y clefyd y Gymraeg." Lucky we don't live in Delhi where you can "even drive odd cars" every other day: [32]. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Odd.

thumbnail. Hafspajen (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can't beat a good German muff, I always say. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MARRTY!!!! Tghat woman gave me a schock. Don't do that again, please. Hafspajen (talk) 23:05, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why settle for Dykes on Bikes when you can have 4 poofs and a piano?? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:15, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Martinevans123: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:29, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message

Many thanks! Help yourself to a slice of bread tree and some traditional Yuletide preserve. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My New Year's day gift

My New Year's day gift to Martin123

This user is a participant in the Serial Killer task force.

— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC) [reply]

How exciting, and vaguely threatening. What an intriguing work group.... do you get to dress up like Kurt Wallander? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 3 January 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Many thanks Gerda. Wow, three years already?? I've ordered some photos of this big event and hopefully some day my prints will come: [33] Martinevans123 (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Especially for both of you [34]. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 11:03, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Gareth, a wonderful version. The true classic line-up there. Long been a favourite. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your rarer naive pussy icon. Brave Son 123 (talk) 14:33, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me you used a computer to come up with that. That there might be human minds capable of devising something like that is too awful to contemplate. EEng (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC) Even worse if it was a non-human mind.[reply]

Even worse - a combination of computer and human mind linked by a neural lace... Robevans123 (talk) 16:22, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"A Purveyance Rosin Sir"?? Nirvana Stem 123 (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. EEng (talk) 15:49, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Am saying nothing. Satan Vermin 321 (talk) 16:27, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very wise. 321 Bona Revs (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quite. Doctor Tom Tonic ....Woman Hitler? (6-2-3)

Bellingcat

Not encyclopaedic? Are you aware of what the Greek words that are the source of the word mean? en kuklos paideuein , to educate in the round, something like that. Eliot has been consulted by the investigators, but not good enough for 'martin evans123'. ugh. ugh ugh. little things please little minds, enjoy your revert power 'martinevans123'.92.3.17.204 (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] David Starr Jordan (1922). The Days of a Man: Being Memories of a Naturalist, Teacher, and Minor Prophet of Democracy. World book Company. p. 173.

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+Not encyclopaedic? Are you aware of what the Greek words that are the source of the word mean?  en  kuklos  paideuein , to educate in the round, something like that. Eliot has been consulted by the investigators, but not good enough for 'martin evans123'. ugh. ugh ugh. little things please little minds, enjoy your revert power 'martinevans123'.[[Special:Contributions/92.3.17.204|92.3.17.204]] ([[User talk:92.3.17.204|talk]]) 00:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)