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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4 D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Romania

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And all I got was a ^^^

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Thanks, Gerda!

El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have

Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's corner

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tagging me, El_C!

Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it!

It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him.

PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's February corner

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day!

El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems.

Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guess what, ~~BWV 1 and~~ BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An edit request by Narky Blert

I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)

To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:

at the top, and

[[Category:Wikipedia alternative accounts]]

at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?

As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - [3], which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo!

El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prayer for Ukraine

I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - "Our" next psalm is Psalm 92, last week's, yesterday we had Psalm 91 but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No NoPixel jokes, please! But yes latest music.) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Nachman? El_C 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint: He emphasized [the] importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the Hasidic Movement, now known as the Breslov (Hasidic group). Their Rosh Hashana kibbutz (annual pilgrimage to Uman, Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. El_C 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day!

El_C 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Wrote the translation of Anna Korsun to German, and began Zofia Kilanowicz, for the occasion. Sang an extra song for peace in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March songs

I listened to the charity concert mentioned here (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think you could provide Psalm 92 (and then 14)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. It's been a while since my last concert.

Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To Prayer for Ukraine? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? [4] - composer on the Main page now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy BachDay!

Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship from the outside, but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! El_C 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). El_C 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, exquisite voice today, heard on 11 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(unless you already do) please help watching the TFA Operation Mincemeat because the author is not active --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please do me a favour regarding Psalm 14: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What, never! El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I did the thing. El_C 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April corner

April songs

First psalm in April: Psalm 17, - please update when you can.

O dear, I never signed ... - (I asked one admin before (Graham87):) Could you please move Boris Lyatoshinsky to Borys Lyatoshynsky, as the article says, and I find in international concert announcements? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done and

Done. I punctuate! El_C 15:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This hymn - Das eine Brot wächst auf vielen Halmen - is based on "a melody from Israel" - do you know more? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, not familiar. At least I don't think. Possibly I've sang it during my time in choir...? El_C 08:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

never mind - memories: two people on DYK, both connected to Oper Frankfurt, and don't miss yesterday's video of Pink Floyd given to me! - no idea where the white line below the header comes from which is not there in preview --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you have time, Psalm 26 please. (I hate the blank line under the header ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have time (and time has me). El_C 11:31, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, next Psalm 62 - Wikipedia:Main Page history/2022 April 13: the TFA is hard to overlook, but there are also peace prayers, a soprano and a theatre manager, - if you don't find them try here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, 26→62? Exclaim thyself! El_C 09:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

coincidence. 26 was at our church, 62 in the Tenebrae readings for last Saturday, - not working today, still Easter, biking and opera, haven't seen pics yet, but it was just beautiful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter(n)! El_C 20:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

it was, thank you, now dance and singing, peace doves and icecream --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool. Definitely deserving of Iced Cream. El_C 13:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

another Ukraine day today: Maks Levin DYK, expanding Kyiv Symphony Orchestra (have tickets), and creating Anthony Robin Schneider, the bass who could be heard opening the singing in Beethoven's Ninth twice on 10 March 2022, live in Frankfurt, Germany, and recorded in Auckland, New Zealand, singing "Freiheit!" (freedom) instead of "Freude" (joy), in a tradition started after the Fall of the Wall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dove sono (Where are those happy moments ...?) - concert with Kyiv orchestra and Aleksey Semenenko (quite a story!) tonight, Symphony with war and peace in the subtitle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So many concerts! You're really making up for lost tyme. I hope all the members of the Kyiv Orchestra are alive and well. El_C 13:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... look and see and listen: Kyiv Symphony Orchestra, Luigi Gaggero & Diana Tishchenko (violin) / Kulturpalast Dresden (25 April 2022 on YouTube (that's 25 April in Dresden, a different violinist, but the same program) - ours pictured here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic!

El_C 21:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

{{YouTube|I learn spamthing new!}} El_C 21:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bed time update

I finished the sanding of my bed rails, got the interlocked lap joints set between the rails and bed posts, and got the bolt holes and counter sinks done! Now I just need to make the headboard, make the mortises in the head posts, assemble the headboard into them, then it's just staining, polyurethane, and painting the metal hardware black! All in all, my new bed should be fully built within a month! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:17, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Songspam for you! El_C 03:40, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I've taken no liberties with the song title: https://www.discogs.com/release/15748591-Elise-Trouw-Studio-Live-Session El_C 03:45, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Headboard is constructed! Now I just have to give the glue a few days to cure up nicely. Then it's time for more sanding! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It better be manual sanding! El_C 21:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Manual sanding? What is this, Les Miserables? Is rather sleep on the floor like a god damned animal. Well, actually, I guess it's kinda manual sanding. I have to hold my random orbital sander. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Construction complete!

Mortises are cut, test fit the headboard, looks beautiful. At this point all actual construction is complete. I could assemble it and use it as a bed now. What I'm going to do is a bit of touch of sanding where things got dinged and scratched while I was test fitting and making adjustments, then stain, polyurethane, paint the metal hardware, install some fancy metalwork I made, and done! I think the only power tools I still have to use are my sander and my drill press, for Manning the screw and bolt holes in the hardware I made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pics or it didn't happen. El_C 18:21, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Already sent. It's the the headboard, head rail and head posts, I didn't assembled the rest of the rails and posts together for the test fit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:26, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About to start staining. Finish sanding is done! Unrelated, but can you peek at [5] and see if they're being disruptive enough to do anything. They're mad that I'm declining their edit requests and reverting their talk page refactoring, and now they're retaliating with a revenge RM at Shit flow diagram. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:54, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of one week. I want more parabola! El_C 13:01, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you kindly. I'm gloving up now to stain, so I'll be unable to give you a hard time. I may have some pictures for you in a few hours though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:02, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm listening to Parabola (song) as hard as I can while working, so hopefully it has an effect. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:04, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I saw Tool live back in the day. Great fuckin' concert. El_C 13:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen Tool three times and A perfect circle twice. All great shows. Puscifer is playing nearby in a few months, but I can't convince myself to pay what the resellers want. :( ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, so talented. Speaking of nice, resellers is a nice word. ;) El_C 14:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Posts are stained, images sent. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:05, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done staining! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks a-m-a-z-i-n-g!

El_C 13:33, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tomorrow I should have the polyurethane complete, and I should have time to drill my metal hardware, and maybe get it painted. It is possible that I'll be able to do the assembly on Monday, if not, next weekend at the latest. Huzzah! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those Church benches look grrreat! El_C 09:29, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's done!

Everything is painted, stained and polyurethaned. Steel end plates installed on the bed rails, holes drilled in the hardware. Going to let it cute in the basement till Saturday so the polyurethane is fully cured and hardened. Finally done! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What a long bed trip it's been! El_C 13:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Now I just have to hold off on setting it up before I'm certain the polyurethane is fully hardened. Patience is hard after spending months working on something. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Going for a darker shade of wood was a good call. El_C 13:34, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and the finish really brought the red out of the mahogany. The only thing I'm not sure I like is that the super matte black paint on the steel makes it difficult to see the hammered finish I spent hours banging into it. Did I send the picture of the rail end caps in place on the rails? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:37, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Assembled and in place

You got mail! I got bed! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:04, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So nice. Dark Mahogany looks really good (bed). El_C 13:36, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm really happy with it. Glad it's done. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Newcomer

When you closed the AE request about the Azov RfC, you referred to the filer as a "newcomer". I thought you should know that they have been editing since 2006 and have about 65,000 edits. Cullen328 (talk) 17:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. New to DS maybe, then...? El_C 18:23, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Query

What the heck is "cack"> Is that this generation's "poop"? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:50, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, no need to go to Urban Dictionary. Merriam-Webster defines the word. Cullen328 (talk) 01:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RE: a baby's heelless shoe with a soft leather sole — yeah, that makes perfect sense. Also, why would baby shoes have heels? What? Uh, how fancy and/or athletic are these babies? El_C 02:06, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, do I not understand the difference between heels and high heels? Don't answer that. El_C 02:08, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for some reason, I have just one of my baby shoes. I might have lost the other one in the old country. But the point is: it is not heelless! El_C 02:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, Merriam-Webster, what has happened to you? Actually, when I tried looking up "cack" it had both "excrement" and "to kill" but MW says it is "vomit". All nasty things that don't belong on Brioche. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:33, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think "cack" is derivative of WIKT:caca#English -> -> WIKT:caco#Latin. I remember "cack-off," "to die" from TV as a child. Don't know that etymology. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Contesting topic ban

Hello, I disagree with your decision, considering the deliberate attempts to damage Wikipedia and incivility by Volunteer Marek (which I am ready to provide diffs for) I consider I did my best to stay civil and engage in talk page discussion. Since the report was submitted at a time I am usually offline and I didn't have time to reply to the spurious accusations and serious personal attacks (such as whitewashing crimes, pushing propaganda or conspiracy theories), I ask you what is the best venue to appeal your decision and clear my name (as well as preventing Volunteer Marek to continue malicious removal of encyclopedic content, the changing of such content beyond all recognition, without any regard to our core content policies of neutral point of view, verifiability and no original research and slow edit warring on multiple articles, all of which constitute "obvious evidence" which allows editors to waive WP:AGF). Anonimu (talk) 05:45, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You weren't sanctioned for WP:CIVIL violations, you were sanctioned for egregious WP:TE ones. The principle of WP:NOTTHEM will make it unlikely for your appeal to succeed if you only point to others' shortcomings (or try using these to account for your own). In that sense, focusing mainly on VM's incivility —which I can definitely believe happened (actually, I'd be shocked if he wasn't uncivil, that's sort of his trademark)— is unlikely to see your sanction lifted, because it's largely irrelevant to it. It wouldn't count as a strong enough mitigating factor for what you did. Those are my initial thoughts. In answer to your question: I always recommend AE sanctions to be appealed at WP:AE (rather than at WP:AN or WP:ARCA). El_C 11:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even more so, as my edits only contain paraphrasing of reliable sources or templates regarding failure to verify sources in article text, no original research, no POV (unless that POV was expressed by a reliable source, in which case I made sure to attribute). In order to prove this, I will have to provide extensive list of diffs, quotes from the sources and the articles (previous unsupported text vs my text). Is this going to be accepted at AE or should I create a subpage in my userspace to make sure my appeal won't be rejected for excessive length?

To make it clear, I'm addressing this to you since ARBEE has lots of strikethroughs so it's unclear what parts still apply, and, as enforcing admin, you will probably not have a say in the appeal decision (I suppose, I haven't taken part in AE in ages).Anonimu (talk) 12:22, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, I can't decide on an appeal involving a sanction I imposed. The documentation for the appeal is at {{Arbitration enforcement appeal}}. El_C 12:30, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is to inform you I started the appeal process, which can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Anonimu.Anonimu (talk) 14:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:HARASS and WP:ASPERSIONS issue

Hi El C, hope you're doing well. Sorry for bothering you, but this IP has for two days straight been resorting to WP:HARASS and WP:ASPERSIONS against other users who don't agree with him (his most recent comment being this [6]). I reported him to WP:ANI, would you kindly look into it if possible? Thanks in advance. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that case does not look straight forward to me. Alaexis' comment at RSN (diff) gives me pause. El_C 14:01, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

HistoryofIran just tries to push through a reverse sovereignty of interpretation. See my comment on his manipulated comment (with a time difference of 2 hours) to revive a pointless discussion over who is right or false .--2A02:3030:F:1369:5063:1D6F:5CAB:774C (talk) 14:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't call it "manipulation," IP. Try to assume good faith (WP:AGF) even and especially from content opponents. El_C 14:10, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, but how can one assume good faith with this edit ([7])? This has been going on for 3 hours. A bypass of content-related discussion. --2A02:3030:F:1369:5063:1D6F:5CAB:774C (talk) 14:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get it. El_C 14:21, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t want to bother you with this pointless discussion. I just wanted to wait for the arbitrary break action, after that I’d be gone.—2A02:3030:F:1369:5063:1D6F:5CAB:774C (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: This is why I avoid ANI. Makes me vertiginous. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:17, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ellinewilliams231

has made a coherent unblock request at UTRS appeal #57133. I'd like, if I may, restore TPA so she can post it there. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, thanks. El_C 02:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Tom_Divine

An IP you blocked has wondered into AN, I thought you'd like to know. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 21:40, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know, ActivelyDisinterested. El_C 02:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing disruption at Equatorial Guinea

You did write that you wanted to know if PC didn't appear to be working... I guess that's self-explanatory enough. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:13, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yesterday, I found a rusty old pair of pliers in my shopping cart (the grocery store does not sell these). Look what I won! I said to the person who came with me and who was in a parallel que. Why would you win... what is that, pliers? they asked. Because I'm fuckin' awesome, that's why! I saiid. At that point, I got to the cashier, handed her the pliers (handle first!) and said: my gift to you. If anyone gives you attitude (except me), *pinch* Now, you might call me a hero, you might call me an epic hero. Which would be correct. True stogy. El_C 09:52, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will settle for "epic." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know when I'm not wanted, I will leave.

El_C 11:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An important question regarding trains in Hebrew

File:Book-read-white-bear-blue-toy-844152-pxhere-com.jpg

Teddy, limo driver

You said trains are "she"... but if "she" is hi, and "he" is hu, and "who" is mi, and "me" is ani... Doesn't that mean the whole thread needs to be moved to ANI?

Curtsies. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 10:06, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

!ניל"י — good poetwy. Also, that teddy bear is too fluffy... Also also, see also my insights above concerning train, orchestra conductors (@#Prayer_for_Ukraine). El_C 10:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I missed it, but are ships she or he in Hebrew? I'm going to share my own tidbits of information and say that in French it's masculine (since the word for ship is navire, and that is masculine - same outcome, also, in Spanish); and German is apparently feminine - for ex. de:HMS Victory (the second sentence begins She is today a museum-ship in Portsmouth, although it's das Schiff [the ship, neuter]). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:57, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Most modes of transport in Hebrew seem to use feminine, like: bicycle, car, van, truck, train, raft, boat, ship, ferry, submarine. Except for aviation for some reason: airplane, heli and hot air balloon, for example, are masculine. Also, motorcycle is→ kinda masculine bicycle (O-fa-noa → O-fa-na-im). El_C 18:41, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the usual associations of motorcycles, that would seem about right (if, one must admit, a bit sexist). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted it noted I just spent about five minutes trying to think up a good Jewish train joke so I could start a section entitled "An important question regarding Hebrews in trains." ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:38, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't have anything that wouldn't be rather off-colour, so can't really help on that one. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That was my issue too. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Y'know what always got me in Hebrew? Two different words for "fly". It's cool, but also meant I couldn't make my normal joke of flapping my arms after saying "I'm going to fly to...". Yes, real comedic genius I know. P.S., in Toki Pona "ni li" means (roughly) "this is", so, keeping the translingual homophones coming. ("Fly" is "waso", like oiseau. Or "tawa sewi", "move highly". Or a bunch of other things.) -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[8] Sir Joseph ^(talk) 20:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An important question regarding Hebrews in trains

Pretend this is a super funny, family friendly rabbi-on-a-train joke. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I went googling but the only thing I find are a rabbi and a priest (occasionally, it's not a priest but a random Italian) on a train discussing, uhm, pork meat and sex [9], so not really family friendly either. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:07, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Jewish boss in another life always left the first piece of bacon on his plate. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 20:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found one about a Palestinian Jew throwing a Russian Jew off a train, but it seemed a little political, so I figured probably better to skip that one. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Train jokes are done, but here's a התחנה הקטנה טרבלינקה, from the master, Yehuda Poliker. 20:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

[10] ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's about Holocaust trains. El_C 20:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It definitely had that timbre to it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See I came up with something here about coins on railroad tracks, and I think it'll get laughs when I tell it at seder, but might be less popular to have in my contribs. There is the classic about the guy reading the Yiddish newspaper on the subway, but that one has aged quite poorly. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure that this is strictly family friendly, of course...

Q: Why don't Jews make good train engineers?

A: They keep wanting to detach the locomotive at the front. --GRuban (talk) 12:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

El_C 12:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Solid chuckle, 4/5. I was thinking of about a joke like that, but the problem is if you're off by just a little bit you can seriously fuck it up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Best handled by surgeons. El_C 12:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a tip, make sure they're listening to ACDC. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:37, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at least you didn't say "just the tip." Small mercies. El_C 14:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My wife says my merci is just fine, thank you very much! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The only relevant joke I know is the old one of the three men in a railway compartment playing skat on the belly of the fourth passenger, a sleeping fat priest, for lack of a table; but you'll have heard it. Narky Blert (talk) 18:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An important question regarding Hebrews and hats

Is it common for Jewish families to have a box of yarmulkes stashed away for when they invite us gentiles over for Passover and such? When I was dating a Jewish woman, her family invited me over for Passover Seder, and when I got there her father got out an old cardboard box of yarmulkes. They were very impressed when I already had one of my own, a beautiful purple satin one, which I had gotten when I was in the wedding party at a friend's wedding. I also got to sign the Ketubah, saying I would do anything in my power to help the two of them keep their marriage strong. That's a pretty good tradition. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, pretty common. Speaking of anything in your power, a Remington 870 is always a powerful wedding motivator, universally so. El_C 20:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a Mossberg 500 guy, myself. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:56, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peace and love, guys? The only kind of "circular tube that makes lots of noise when used" I enjoy is, of course, this one. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:02, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing but peace and love, but I gotta eat. If I get a couple deer a year that makes me meat independent, with my rabbits and quail. Toss a few pheasant and turkey on top, and holidays are covered too! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:16, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as a great man once said:

I am armed to the dentures.

El_C 23:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, as long as it's pump action (for the sound FX), even a MAG-7 will do in a pinch. El_C 21:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I learned how to play keys originally on an organ (starting early childhood). El_C 21:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I operate the bellows on my concertina from time to time, but mostly I just hit things. My wife covers the strings. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:19, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess not too much Bach or Reger then? Currently preparing this for an upcoming final exam in a few weeks: great fun running around on the pedals with that one... :) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)

My mom's got the big kippah box in her home (where we usually do seder), also with backup haggadot of the wrong variety so whichever unlucky person gets them has to try to keep up with different translations and different pagination. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 21:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I

Like the ♫ singing ♫

El_C 21:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is that what the box of spare hats is called? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:30, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kippah == Yarmulke. First comes from Hebrew, latter from Yiddish, although I see yiwiki uses yi:קאפל ("Koppel") as its article title... which brought to my attention that we didn't have a link from Koppel to Kippah, which I've now fixed. So let it not be said that nothing encyclopedic has been accomplished here. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 23:21, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User talk pages are strictly for encyclopedia building! and bed building updates ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:26, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, we've all been bad guys; somebody's going to have to put a {{uw-chat1}} somewhere to warn people. Keeping contributors in a good mood and distracting them from the inevitable drama is part of building the encyclopedia, right? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:45, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hanging out here is a lot better than looking at what is sure to be a horrible ANI thread about a conflict I'm involved in. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About the language?

Hi, I found that you used a word called djjjjl, what does it mean? PAVLOV (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. El_C 14:44, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure it's "Don't jab, jostle, jeer, or jilt a lady." ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not jilty, your honour. El_C 14:49, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or alternatively, not quilt. El_C 15:11, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Judge should be like "GUILTY!". Peace. ✌️ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

👮 Murderers don't get lawyers! 👮 El_C 15:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm getting more confused than before. PAVLOV (talk) 15:54, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a mythical creature out of Arabian legend rather like the djinn, only with fewer vowels. Narky Blert (talk) 17:57, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(I should have mentioned that djjjjls are female. The males are called djjjjk. I'll get me coat.) Narky Blert (talk) 05:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And that's no djjjjk! El_C 11:28, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kirkuk

Hi El C, I kindly ask that you revert your last edit to Kirkuk to the last stable version which has been unaffected for several months. These racially motivated POV edits were made by a new user who has now been blocked from editing and this is not the stable version. Regards. 77.96.159.195 (talk) 12:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss it on the talk page and get consensus, don't ask the protecting administrator to continue to edit war on your behalf. Besides, we're busy making circumcision jokes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:51, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it's being discussed on the talk page. This is reverting disruptive edits of a blocked user, not an edit war. 77.96.159.195 (talk) 12:54, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Explained on the talk page (diff). El_C 15:11, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Use of selfpublished sources and page protection

Hello El_C, made a Request at the Page protection regarding the List of equipment of the Ukrainian Ground Forces article, could a extended protection be made, new created account and IPs are adding Self Published sources like blogs to the article. here. Mr.User200 (talk) 13:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Seems he is casting aspersions.Mr.User200 (talk) 13:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Another admin has already warned them, so I'm inclined to leave it to them (easiest!). El_C 15:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

College of Policing

Thanks for protecting the page yesterday. As expect the person driving the addition of the poor content has posted an RFC, but it is badly written - it is not just about the content but it's about me and the other editors and how we got to the RFC. I contend that the latter is irrelevant. All that matters is we have a clear discussion about the content and only the content. He/she is being completely intransigent on this - and is also not getting the idea that WP:ONUS means he/she is the one who needs to present a good argument for inclusion. The parroted comment is "tell me what's wrong with it, tell me what's wrong with it...". Any chance you could take a look and have a word? 10mmsocket (talk) 19:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

10mmsocket, I've re-drafted and re-listed the RfC (diff). HTH. El_C 21:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance you could stop by? Telanian7790 is reverting to his/her past behaviour of article ownership and personal attacks on other editors, e.g. with "That is a very bizarre response." and very definitely accusing other editors of acting in bad faith. It's undermining the process. I'm of a mind based on his past behaviour to file an ANI and ask for a topic ban but would really appreciate anything you might be able to do first. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:22, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Sorry, I'm a bit pressed for time right now, so it might indeed be best to seek assistance elsewhere. Regards, El_C 17:20, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noted, thank you. 10mmsocket (talk) 17:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So....

I came across E3a on my watchlist after I noticed they were inexplicably adding pointless "cleanup" edits to articles tagged for deletion and removing advert tags, only to see that they have a history of promotional editing. I see they responded to you, JBW and others stating they had no connection to Rahimberdi Annamoradnejad but I looked at their edits on other projects (where they also created this article) and came across this interesting tidbit. Use google translate to see what it says...there's a clear COI here. CUPIDICAE💕 19:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm too trusting.

El_C 21:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry guys. A few years ago I was really promoting without knowing the rules (if there were any). But recently, I was working on a project to test automated moderation tools and I had to keep editing and putting them. It wasn't just Wikipedia. You were great in detecting the chaos, but you shouldn't have been put into such tasks. You can rest assured that this is over :) Good bye. 46.209.83.117 (talk) 11:45, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe you, E3a. IP blocked 2 weeks for block evasion. El_C 11:50, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Checking to see what Finncowboy is up to. Nothing since weird defense of E3a on April 12. El_C 21:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sidbishnoi nothing since April 10. El_C 21:15, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think given their admission of using some sort of weird tool, it's probably worth a CU locally and perhaps some glocks. CUPIDICAE💕 14:10, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I recommend you request a global lock. I'd do it myself, but they don't like me at m3ta. El_C 14:31, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, I had a steward do some lookin' and there's quite a lot more:

Pvinh (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Ilyushkin (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Johnaruda (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Jessetoxik (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Mikeplace (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Msardor (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Ecasaro (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Tanskiy (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Cjb90802 (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Rr00069 (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Drsamehhanna (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Bambino646 (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Movibe (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Loximoto (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Sidbishnoi (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Simon8or (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
Finncowboy (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)
EmilyEEktown (talk · contribs · central auth · count · email)

Loximoto is the oldest. CUPIDICAE💕 14:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit, that was quick! Damn, there's a lot of em. El_C 14:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Finncowboy, Sidbishnoi — good show. El_C 14:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Êzdîkî

Hello El C. Can you take a look at this new account Contentcu? Their article Êzdîkî is a povfork of Kurmanji and should not exist. --Semsûrî (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Êzdîkî, the gift that keeps on giving. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 21:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another new account, same behavior. I would appreciate it if you took a look at Kurdification of Yazidis (which again is a POVFORK) and the editor. --Semsûrî (talk) 07:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe take it to WP:AFD this time. This isn't as straight forward for me to comfortably use the DS hammer in favour of keeping the redirect. El_C 08:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that, but from experience I know that Yazidi-related AFDs attract a lot of canvassed IP editors. --Semsûrî (talk) 08:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those should be discounted by the closer. The {{canvassed}} and {{spa}} tags may be used to aid them in that. El_C 08:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will do that then. Meanwhile, I caught this Persecution of Yazidis by Muslim Kurds article which is almost identical to Persecution of Yazidis, just rephrased. I have redirected it but I can imagine what will follow... --Semsûrî (talk) 09:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

collateral

~~You mean like when your big bad cruiser gets sunk by missiles launched from a ... truck? Oh, wait. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:29, 15 April 2022 (UTC)~~ Oh, what was I thinking. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not gonna hit you with a hammer!

El_C 21:37, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At least they were able to tow it back to port. Right? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:53, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ocean dump! El_C 22:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New administrator activity requirement

The administrator policy has been updated with new activity requirements following a successful Request for Comment.

Beginning January 1, 2023, administrators who meet one or both of the following criteria may be desysopped for inactivity if they have:

Made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least a 12-month period OR
Made fewer than 100 edits over a 60-month period

Administrators at risk for being desysopped under these criteria will continue to be notified ahead of time. Thank you for your continued work.

22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The lawd's work

If I believed in god, I'd tell you you're doing the lord's work, so take that compliment however you'd like. :) CUPIDICAE💕 23:17, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I keep typing +noclip into the command line, but nothing happens! El_C 23:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relatedly, Choose or Die wasn't bad. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Outer Range has good potential. El_C 23:42, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that's something my wife would watch, so there's a fair chance I'll be watching it soon. It also has the woman with the best name in it. Imogen Poots. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:47, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Imogen's a good name. I like it a whole heap. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I remember when SNL was good. Hey, DNC, your comedy show fuckin' sucks! BTW, TPA revoked because red mist is not funny. El_C 12:12, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These days I look around and I'm like: where are we? What the hell is going on? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just a simple caveman, and your modern world frightens and confuses me. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:52, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Outer Range is pretty good so far, although I'm worried it's going to be more Lost than Twin Peaks. Makes me wish I had a ranch. Then I think about how much work not a whole ranch is, then I no longer wish to have a ranch.

You know what's not in that hole?!? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:37, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, it's got potential. Will keep watching. I dunno, the not-mirror world? BTW, From turned out to be pretty good. A bit religiousy for what I look for in the genre, but still engaging. And speaking of Lost (which was great, lest we forget, until it wasn't), it stars Harold Perrineau. Anyway, looking forward to S02. El_C 00:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like I watched From, or it's on a watchlist of mine, somewhere. And Lost certainly was great, and certainly did lose the magic as soon as it became obvious that they were throwing in mysteries just to have mysteries. I prefer to have my mysteries solvable, so there's a reason to let my mind chew them over. Season 1 of Westworld being a great example. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's new. With the creatures and shit. Yeah, Westworld took an exceptional nosedive and yet kept going. El_C 12:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I watched season 2 of Westworld, but don't remember much except to Protect Ya Neck. Didn't bother coming back for season 3. Oh, Spin is good so far, although it has a character named Jason, which does present problems for me every time it's spoken.

JASON??!!? JASON!!!? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A divine gift from dog

My wife and I just brought the dogs out, and they each took off and brought us back an adolescent rabbit, my wife's dog had injured hers, so I had to dispatch it, but my dog handed the rabbit to me whole and uninjured. +1 rabbit. Put it in with one of my does, we'll see how it does. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^{( Buttinsky)} That's amazing SFR. What breed of dog brought back the uninjured rabbit? I'm house-sitting for my daughter, who has a Brittany Spaniel, and he has been going crazy over a family of squirrels in their yard. He finally caught one of the little ones and brought its little lifeless body to the back door. He was not at all gentle after he caught it but quite proud of his accomplishment. 😢 I've been wanting a baby squirrel to raise and so far, that's as close as I've gotten to one. Atsme 💬 📧 02:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All the many mouse (meese?) my cat ever brought back were dead. But all the chipmunks were, not only alive, but uninjured and unmolested. I say chipkmunks, but it was mainly just the one who lived by the garage. I think after the tenth time of being brought to the door only to be released, the novelty sort of wore of (for the chipmunk, me and kitty were still super into it). El_C 09:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Both of my dogs are mutts, the one I call my dog looks to be blood hound and black lab. I trained her for hunting, and she comes in very handy any time a quail gets out of the hutch. She'll run it down and carry it back uninjured. The dog I call my wife's dog looks more like she has some terrier in her, so it's not unexpected that she'd kill what she caught. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Those are dumb names for dogs... El_C 10:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thelma Lou and Penelope. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, those are pretty good names for dogs. El_C 10:52, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well the dog giveth and the Lord taketh away. The other rabbit didn't survive the night. Froze to death, didn't get in the pile with my baby rabbits. :( ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I did not want to know that. El_C 11:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh the plus side, the circle of life marches on. I have 120 quail eggs in the incubator right now, 17 or 18 days I should have a decent pile of new chicks, and I'll probably run another 120 as soon as the first hatch. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're keeping em all as pets, right? Anyway, to circle this back: let he who is without sin... get fucked... I guess... El_C 20:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good news everyone! Thelma got another one, and this one hopped right into the baby pile in the hutch, so I have high hopes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:44, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh good. A petting zoo is imminent. El_C 23:01, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be interested....

in blocking IP77.28.32.95 that has posted insulting remarks on Jingiby's talk page 3 times?[11][12][13] --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:33, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is it? El_C 19:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming you are referring to the languages used. The first appears to be Bulgarian and the last two posts were in Macedonian. Per Google translate. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I want a translation!

El_C 08:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"JAS SUM BUGAROFIL GADEN I SUM SUPAK NEVIDEN SE MOLAM NA GOSPOD DA ME ZEME"

"I AM A BULGARIAN FUCKER AND I AM INVISIBLE, I PRAY TO GOD TO TAKE ME"

"те молам господе земи ме неможам повеќе вака те молам земи ме-секој бугар коа ќе ме види мене-(андреј ебачот)"

"please god take me I can not anymore like this please take me-every Bulgarian who sees me- (andrej ebac)"

"сакам да сум македонец но испаднав татарско лајно ради ова се молам секој ден да испарам"

"I want to be Macedonian but I turned out to be a Tatar shit because of this I pray to evaporate every day" --Kansas Bear (talk) 11:39, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Damn GADENs, they're always in the last place you look... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 11:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Puzzled by something

Mariupol is showing up Category:Wikipedia_articles_needing_cleanup_after_translation_from_unknown_language. Usually, afaik, articles get removed from these lists when the {{rough translation}} template is removed, unless pixies do it in the dead of night and simply haven’t made it down to letter U in a while. I can’t figure out how to take it off the list.

I have been all the way through the article and only found one problem related to translation, in which apartment buildings were referred to as “houses”. I fixed that. The article seems to be getting plenty of attention, and I am pretty sure It is fine now. I asked on the talk page whether I was missing something and was told that nobody should tag it it as a rough translation unless they can prove that it is. This is a novel interpretation of the translation procedure and as far as I know wrong, but more importantly, a pointless argument best avoided, since this editor apparently also feels that the article is not a rough translation. I suppose this article’s presence on that list isn’t bothering anybody but me, but one of the things I do is try to identify the original language of articles that on that list, and I would like the article to leave the list if it doesn’t need translator help. Can you shed any light or suggest somebody who might be able to do so? Is the problem that I am on a mobile device perhaps? Thank you for any brain power that you apply to this question. Elinruby (talk) 05:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's a WP:HIDDENCAT. Nobody really knows what these are. A leading theory that I just came up with now is that our AI overlords at Wikidata went back in time to create these (probably for the lulz, because robots love to laugh and love). El_C 08:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing to your notice wrt Rajput page

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Dear Admin

I just saw that you have locked this page Rajput, I want to bring the whole context of the situation to your notice, so that you can look at it. Two editors are unfortunately cooperating like possible suspected meat puppets. Some possible proof for the same: One editor pinged other editor on his/her talk page twice once on 7th March and next on 13th April [here] the other editor just restored the edit to the desired version of First editor skipping all relevant edits in the duration, and the other editor added his content just 2 hrs late [here], this was on 7th March - 8th March, now next incident last week the editor mass deleted the whole content by giving misleading edit summary [here] as there was no activity for 1 day. Isn't this WP:OWN ? Later again on another similar page, the particular editor restored the preferred version of his/her or to the version of his desired friendly editor. It looks like on many pages similar habit is being repeated by the same editor and now again the same editor has restored the edit to desired version of his or her friendly editor ( possible WP:Tag team ) [here] removing the valuable edits done by another editor [here]. Now, surprisingly the same editor has asked for protection on the page [here]. It would be convenient if you as Admin and a very senior editor could take a review of it because there wasn't any edit war going on except the concerned editor who once mass deleted the whole content with wrong edit summary. Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 10:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I can't review mobile diffs. They suck too much. El_C 10:49, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Admin, I am extremely sorry for this mistake, I will send the same below without mobile diffs. Accept my apologies, Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 10:57, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, take your time. No apology needed, but it's El_C, not Admin. El_C 11:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C:

I just saw that you have locked this page Rajput, I want to bring the whole context of the situation to your notice, so that you can look at it. Two editors are unfortunately cooperating like possible suspected meat puppets. Some possible proof for the same: One editor pinged other editor on his/her talk page twice once on 7th March and next on 13th April [here] the other editor just restored the edit to the desired version of First editor skipping all relevant edits in the duration, and the other editor added his content just 2 hrs late [here], this was on 7th March - 8th March, now next incident last week the editor mass deleted the whole content by giving misleading edit summary [here] as there was no activity for 1 day. Isn't this WP:OWN ? Later again on another similar page, the particular editor restored the preferred version of his/her or to the version of his desired friendly editor. It looks like on many pages similar habit is being repeated by the same editor who is rarely active and now again the same editor has restored the edit to desired version of his or her friendly editor ( possible WP:Tag team ) [here] removing the valuable edits done by another editor [here]. Now, surprisingly the same editor has asked for protection on the page [here]. It would be convenient if you as Admin and a very senior editor could take a review of it because there wasn't any edit war going on except the concerned editor who once mass deleted the whole content with wrong edit summary. Thanks and Best RS6784 (talk) 12:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RS6784, I mean, you can try WP:SPI, but that's not very strong evidence of WP:SOCKING or otherwise coordination. Folks can share a viewpoint and watchlist items. El_C 12:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But what should be done in case of mass deletion of the whole content like the editor did on a page. The particular dormant editor can't just keep on restoring to his/her preferred edit and obstruct others from even adding new sourced content. This behaviour is unfortunately repeated regularly by the editor, I think this is done on many pages. Thanks for your vital suggestions on it. RS6784 (talk) 12:25, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you'd need to verify whether there's an issue across multiple pages. But as to the page in question, if you feel like yourself and other participants have reached an impasse on the article talk page, there are dispute resolution requests you can avail yourself of, like an WP:RFC (but not WP:DRN, no!). That DRR may then be advertised (in a neutral way) to relevant wikiprojects. In turn, this would hopefully bring further outside input to the dispute. And so, if the issues are, indeed, as you perceive them to be, those outside reviewers are much more likely to offset these (certainly, they'd bring added weight to any conduct report, at the very least). HTH. El_C 12:35, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Once again thank you for the great input. I just wanted to point out the concerned editor used edit warring as excuse to ask for locking the Rajput page but literally no activity happened for a day, but before asking for lock, the editor today restored the edit to her preferred version. where is the WP:NPOV in such case here ?. This was my another issue RS6784 (talk) 12:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, glad I could help. But one day is not too long in the context of edit warring, which did happen, so not an "excuse," but a valid reasoning. As for asking for protection after reverting to their preferred version, that's pretty common and isn't usually frowned upon. El_C 12:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User

Hi ElC, hope you're doing well. I was going to ask if you could take a look at user Mfikriansori? They keep doing Pov edits, removing Armenian names from articles like these [14], [15], [16]. [17], [18], adding Azeri names while edit-warring over them with WP:OTHER and WP:POINT "analysis", not actually justifying inclusion on merits of the article and relation to it [19]. They remove / change the Armenian (and official at the time) names like here which adds 0 value to the article and isn't the official city name of that time period. Similarly, only in the opposite direction, they add Khankendi next to common and modern name Stepanakert [45], or completely change it.

I tried to reason with them [20], and addressed their WP:POINT "analysis" in Talk:Yerevan#Names_in_the_lede, where they suggested adding the Azeri name in the lede of Yerevan, Armenia's capital. I don't think any of these helped. Most of their edits don't have edit descriptions even controversial ones, and they rarely if ever engage in talks. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 10:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User? Great header.

Warned: User_talk:Mfikriansori#Warning. So I guess we'll see if they'll change course. El_C 11:19, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I forgot to add their name lol. Thank you for your attentiveness ElC, AA would've been an even bigger poophole without you looking over us. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All you need is a punk love song

Buzzcocks - "Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've)" - link. I approve the double apostrophe.

A day late but paid in full - The Stone Roses - "I Am the Resurrection" - link. Narky Blert (talk) 22:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't. So atonal and unadorned. I just don't get much out the genre, even when I like the politics. Now, funk, that's a whole other galaxy. El_C 22:36, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail!

Hello, El C. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 11:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

PAVLOV (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That material has already been suppressed. El_C 12:04, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for mention! PAVLOV (talk) 12:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"At a glance, they just seem to be an Elon Musk WP:SPA"

The same applies to QRep2020. Their top ten most edited articles are all Musk and Tesla related. This editor's purpose here on Wikipedia seems to be to make Musk and his businesses look as bad as possible. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well shit, so the good and the bad. Symmetry? I'm gonna re-open that ANI thread and refactor this, as they might need to be shown the door, too. El_C 19:53, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think if I become an Elon Musk stan, he'll give me a Tesla? My check engine light came on this morning, so I could use a free ride. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no. El_C 20:33, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

El C, I still have some phantom pain from the last time I (mildly) disagreed with you at ANI. I'm sad to myself in a similar position again. Here's some melancholy-but-uplifiting music offered in the spirit of "sorry I'm not sorry, but I'm sorry". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:47, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just as melancholy-but-uplifting, but with more volcanic eruptions! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good stuff. Could have fit right into Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd album)! Though the album art is maybe "too 70s" even for the 70s. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:02, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna have a good time! Definite bonus points for The Flaming Lips. The Floyd thread is that-a-way, though. El_C 21:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The other user name I was thinking about using was Unit 3000-21. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal issue

IP adding junk to dog articles. See their contribs. I revert the garbage, they throw it back in. I did the AGF thing at first, and then I started noticing the yellow caution colors on the contribs of the IP. I created a UTP, and warned. They are not here to help build - they're entertaining themselves adding junk. Atsme 💬 📧 02:22, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blooked 72 hours. Yeah, this is definitely border-line vandalism, or maybe just gross incompetence. El_C 02:41, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bitag

Thank you. I had just opened a COIN ticket wp:COIN#Bitag Cheers Adakiko (talk) 04:37, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NP. El_C 11:02, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of P-ban

Hello El_C. I have made a reply to the ANI thread regarding my p-ban. Just wanted to make sure you saw it. Sorry if this is the wrong place to notify you or another admin. If it is could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!BoMadsen88 (talk) 21:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I would greatly appreciate an answer:) BoMadsen88 (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can appeal the block in the usual way, BoMadsen88, like you did before. El_C 11:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

219.77.58.50 and Slum

At the beginning of April you blocked user:219.77.58.50 (now globally blocked too), and protected Slum for two weeks. The protection has now ended and a new IP user:182.239.87.135 (different ISP but same city) has appeared to restore the same unsourced claim that a particular high rise is a slum [21] vs [22], for example. Meters (talk) 01:47, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe that's it? Please keep me posted. El_C 11:03, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would this be considered Tag-Teaming?

No comment. El_C 11:04, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Yarkon_Park&diff=1084263286&oldid=1084261338&diffmode=source

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Rachel%27s_Tomb&diff=1081737481&oldid=1081736749&diffmode=source

It seems fairly clear-cut that he is pinging users known to be aligned with a specific side of the debate on Wikipedia in order to manipulate/circumvent consensus. Drsmoo (talk) 14:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Random passerby says that looks like a reach. Selfstudier (talk) 14:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Given that you almost exclusively edit alongside both Onceinawhile and Zero0000, describing yourself as a random passerby seems quite disingenuous. I would consider this textbook Tag Teaming, but perhaps my understanding of what is acceptable needs to be adjusted, hence my asking. Drsmoo (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is it permissible to ping specific editors with known ideological viewpoints and ask them to contribute to a debate?

No comment, still. El_C 13:05, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Is it permissible to ping specific editors who are known to share one's ideological viewpoints, and ask them to contribute, while one is in the middle of a talk page debate with/against someone who does not share those viewpoints. Note, if this is not the right place to ask, where would be a better place to ask? Drsmoo (talk) 12:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For example, if I were in a one-on-one discussion/debate regarding Jewish history, could I @ a user with an expertise in Jewish history, even if I knew their edits tended to follow the same ideological pattern as mine? Or would that be considered problematic ally trying to influence consensus?Drsmoo (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics:

(Intro)

Somehow I found myself here today

Awakened to these thoughts and feelings

Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming?

A strange sort of spherical sensation

With an overwhelming sense of apprehension

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

So far beyond our reach

Where consciousness coalesces

Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds

The streaming runs of thought goes

'Round and 'round and 'round

Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down

And the earth bows down in reverence

Lest it should be torn to pieces

And blown into oblivi-essence

And all who live will run and hide

And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time

Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of

One's own mind

But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge

Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind

You'll find that everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

(Verse one)

Open up

Your hearts and minds

'Cause I remember

Nothing

One day now

It all falls down

But love must keep on

Loving

So start the show

Here we go

(Chorus)

Dark to light

The day from night

A roll of a mountain

A rip in the sky

Turning the dust to flesh

And ashes to breath

A pull of a muscle

A pin in the eye

An initial spark

To get this heart of mine pumping

And another

To get these feet of mine running

But sadly they've just taken me

To a place

Where all is devoid

Of your embrace

So baby now we're falling

Baby now you're falling

Baby yeah, yeah

Baby now we're falling, baby yeah

Tripping and tumbling

Flipping and fumbling

Flowing on the rivers of sadness

That have been forever rumbling

But from dawn until now

Of all the paths that I could have gone down

Of all the valleys

That I could have been flowing through

In spite of all the chaos

And all that has come between us

How is it I still find myself

Here with you

(Outro)

So somehow we find ourselves here today

A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming

A strange sort of spherical sensation

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

And all of us, we run and hide

Do what we've done since the dawn of time

Peering out through the beating rain

The pounding wind

Everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S ^{Dr.Viossy — El_C 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)}[reply]

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnopédie No. 1 → Arabesque No. 1 — El_C 10:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raat Ne Main Baandhi Chhe — El_C 15:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reza, Meu Bem — El_C 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because — El_C 12:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noite Longa — El_C 18:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voce Me Apereceu — El_C 05:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lodger → It Starts When We Disappear — El_C 15:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One More Day — El_C 00:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sing Song Kitty → Bonaparte's Retreat — El_C 11:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Girls Love Kehlani → Table El_C 01:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kkwy — El_C 01:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Convoy — El_C 15:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Black Water (studio) → Live (1974) — El_C 08:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime → The House of the Rising Sun — El_C 13:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa Esfera — El_C 13:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Down Man — El_C 13:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The High Road — El_C 02:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found You — El_C 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quero ver — El_C 01:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raag Gawati (Dhan Dhan Bhag Hamare) — El_C 17:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I Adore You — El_C 13:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Angola Anthem — El_C 18:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dopesnotfunkae — El_C 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Descarga for Tito — El_C 18:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Positive Notions — El_C 02:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One — El_C 14:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Secret Sun — El_C 21:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Back Where It All Begins — El_C 14:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Riflessività — El_C 03:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Title 1 → 2 → 3 → 4 — El_C 16:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tudo Que Você Podia Ser — El_C 13:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary Discrepancy — El_C 13:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Way Star — El_C 09:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lament — El_C 15:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely Day — El_C 14:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alter Ego — El_C 11:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

עמוד האש — El_C 13:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Won't Pray Adagio → Angel's Serenade — El_C 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Distance — El_C 18:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic — El_C 12:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the Man Who Loves You → Poor Places — El_C 07:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creation & Destruction — El_C 14:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck the System — El_C 22:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Esperar Pra Ver — El_C 10:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Coat Of Paint — El_C 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ecstasy of Gold — El_C 13:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One Way — El_C 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Little Less Conversation — El_C 15:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power in the Darkness — El_C 18:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

תמונה → Guitar — El_C 15:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Smokestack Lightning — El_C 11:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ann River, Mn → Bibio Remix — El_C 10:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror Temple — El_C 01:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zoiks — El_C 15:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tuyo — El_C 14:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 (Overture) — El_C 13:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Land → A Lotus On Irish Streams — El_C 12:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Romance del Diablo — El_C 13:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Floral Fury — El_C 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waking Up → VIP Extended Mix — El_C 10:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Solução Edit — El_C 13:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

אפילו דקה → Trem das Onze — El_C 14:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Knives Out — El_C 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Child in Time — El_C 01:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Free Bird (extended studio) — El_C 12:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody Speak → Nobody Move — El_C 11:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be Alright (Live at One Love Manchester) — El_C 11:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Victory Theme (SHADOWFOX2 Remix) → Funk Fiction Remix — El_C 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Intimidated — El_C 15:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seoul — El_C 11:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona — El_C 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sun — El_C 14:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Parole parole — El_C 15:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathe (2 AM) (Live) — El_C 13:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dodole — El_C 16:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Moment → Ammonia Clouds — El_C 11:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy (guitar heavy) — El_C 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After You — El_C 16:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Estate — El_C 11:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prelude → Victory Fanfare (Evil Needle X OriJanus Remix) — El_C 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Nights

Winter Nights (full album): Greensleeves → Inverno — El_C 05:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ready To Fly — El_C 13:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 05:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 20:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since I've Been Loving You — El_C 21:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lupin — El_C 02:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Une Sulased → Kiik Tahab Kindaid — El_C 18:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Star Spangled Banner — El_C 00:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderland — El_C 10:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Souffles H (Souffle Your Wig) — El_C 17:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2 Hearts Together (Absolute Contrast) — El_C 10:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Este Amor — El_C 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Samba De Luar — El_C 11:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't Hide Love — El_C 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice & Slow — El_C 12:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Living For The Night — El_C 13:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In The Morning — El_C 06:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nos Vida — El_C 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One Dream — El_C 12:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Central Boogie — El_C 22:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Mercy → Instrumental — El_C 01:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delight → Slow Down El_C 05:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Head Over Heels → Sowing the Seeds Of Love — El_C 13:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Surrender — El_C 10:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Stress →Get Down → Human Nature → Dreamy → Flowers — El_C 11:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Well-Tempered Clavier, Prelude 1 in C Major (BWV 846) — El_C 10:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21: I. Maestoso — El_C 23:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Put A Spell On You — El_C 09:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

High Tide — El_C 02:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

פרדי על הבוקר — El_C 07:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slavery Days → I And I Survive — El_C 12:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dare — El_C 16:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (studio version) → Rick explains (feat. Seal) — El_C 13:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deepstar — El_C 11:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All By Myself (Glee) → w David Foster — El_C 15:29, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infralow — El_C 13:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jericho — El_C 12:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Guess You Get What's Coming — El_C 18:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Open Up → Open Up (Reimagined) — El_C 00:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Me In Mind — El_C 11:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Moon (w John Hiatt & Herbie Hancock) — El_C 01:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

True Faith — El_C 16:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

בא אלייך בלילה El_C 14:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Theme That Got Left in the Car — El_C 10:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Feet → India — El_C 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revival — El_C 00:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfuckwitable — El_C 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Breathing — El_C 11:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prune Gang Revival Tour → Darkseid / FULL (Soundcloud) — El_C 05:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gleam → Glim → Mystic — El_C 13:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bullets — El_C 10:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Them Changes — El_C 19:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts — El_C 15:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eyesdown → U Just R — El_C 03:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A New Life — El_C 21:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Press Garden Zone — El_C 15:34, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fish — El_C 17:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll Find My Way — El_C 07:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lean On — El_C 10:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weird Bed — El_C 03:39, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hope Springs E

Morning Dew — El_C 00:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delight Earth — El_C 10:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Funk No.1 — El_C 12:53, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children Of The World — El_C 05:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child — El_C 22:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lay Down — El_C 14:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Colorless — El_C 16:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Viva L'amore — El_C 02:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Riviera Paradise El_C 10:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plexus — El_C 13:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Virtual Insanity (Wilson remix) — El_C 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Time Paradox (Choma41 final mix) — El_C 01:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Love and Happiness — El_C 16:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

& — El_C 10:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shake Down — El_C 10:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fingerflowing — El_C 11:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Cat Came Back — El_C 10:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the Morning of the Magicians — El_C 22:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mellow → Voyage — El_C 11:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Search for Optimism — El_C 13:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On The Move — El_C 15:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Transmissionnn → Txt (MSGS) — El_C 10:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phenomenal → To Forgive (Letting Go Is Hard) — El_C 18:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

//bows

El_C 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poilievre

Hello. Thank you for protecting Pierre Poilievre. However, I'm wondering why it doesn't show the grey lock with a person icon on the top right? Ak-eater06 (talk) 18:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NP. I dunno, bot on strike? El_C 19:31, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi El Conejo

Probably not what El C stands for but it was fun looking it up, especially with your love for the natural things. I got curious when I read the unpleasantness from @Classical library as to why they called you bug man so I re-read your talk page and still found no references to bugs. Bugs can be pretty amazing though. However, I was a very big fan of the killer beast in Monty Python and the Holy Grail and seeing as I'm a fan of yourself I could correlate the two. Just make sure to dodge grenades thrown by knights. I digress, if I could fully understand @Classical library's rant I might find it particularly offensive but it really just left me wondering why someone would go through all that effort to leave a message attacking the entire encyclopedia, the community and editors like yourself when just hours before they were editing themselves as a part of the community. Seems like the very definition of antithetical. Anyways, this is just a little message of support for you and my attempt at being somewhat comical in the process. --ARose Wolf 14:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, ARoseWolf. El_C stands for El_Comandante. But I ass-ume this was a reference to The.Blacklist.S09E17. What will happen next? Who has the safe (and is the safe safe)? Best, El_C 14:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No but that's a good reference. I don't watch much television. I knew there were editors at one time trying to figure out what El_C stood for. I ran across el conejo which means rabbit and was just trying to be funny. The safe is never safe with dynamite around or holy hand-grenades. --ARose Wolf 17:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a whiskey kind of girl but I grew up on wine, btw. --ARose Wolf 17:29, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's 1:45pm somewhere. I'll just point out Ranger Tessa Lamb and Deputy Crystal Clear knew to step away from the wine... giver. El_C 17:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Classical library

Clearly several fries short of a Happy Meal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Ad Orientem, do you like wine? (Or are you more of a beer guy?) El_C 14:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bourbon or scotch are my preferred libation. But I do enjoy a little wine or beer now and then. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, Rye is good. El_C 15:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am jealous and I kinda envy you guys. I miss whisky and wine. PRAXIDICAE💕 17:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Praxidicae, I haven't had any of it in over 7 months. I miss it sometimes. Had perhaps too much fun with them and vodka in my past. --ARose Wolf 18:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I told my husband he better be in the delivery room with a spicy margarita and tacos...idc about the looks of disdain. PRAXIDICAE💕 18:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Praxidicae, My hero! (lol) --ARose Wolf 18:07, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting draft name to earlier draft name

Greetings,

I work in information knowledge gap areas I do have a Draft:Re-mosqueing of Hagia Sophia I wish it gets reverted back to earlier draft name Draft:Intellectual discourse over re-mosqueing of Hagia Sophia for conveying clear objective. Since I am not looking for in the intended article some one praised or condemned conversion of Hagia Sophia that kind of list of reactions, but interested in taking encyclopedic note of proper intellectual discourse.

May be after completion of the draft change of name can be given thought to but in stage of development I wish to retain full name Draft:Intellectual discourse over re-mosqueing of Hagia Sophia. Requesting your help in the same.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 12:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bookku, is re-mosqueing even a word? Regardless, what is preventing you from moving this draft to... any title? El_C 12:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I was requesting expansion help to a user they changed name. When I try to move back it says "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists,"

're-mosqueing' is less used but is used, any ways I wish to leave it open for name change again as per other's suggessions but after Draft going ahead with intended purpose first.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bookku, do you not know how to WP:INDENT? Anyway, do you have links (preferably WP:DIFFs) to those events? Sorry, I'm not seeing it. El_C 13:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

this is the dif of previous move

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay... Any reason you came to me, rather than contacting that admin? El_C 13:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I did not notice that they are an admin, I had approached them for just for help in draft content expansion. I did not know if such action amounts to admin action.

I do not know you personally but once you contacted me on my talk page Your user name is saved on my talk page and all admin guidance and help I always came to you. Some thing is possible not possible I find a level of clarity in your guidance and that is it which I do appreciate . (this is not negative comment on other admins just I found your prompt response and did not need to go anybody else since I contacted you first time)

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say it was an admin action. To find out user rights: Special:UserRights/El_C, Special:UserRights/Bookku and so on. BTW, you can always use {{admin help}}. El_C 13:51, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bookku, the point is that you shouldn't use admins to circumvent direct communication with... whomever. Be they an IP editor or admin. El_C 13:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks I shall do as you suggested, now I have communicated with them, Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 13:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bookku I moved the draft, and I think it is much better under the shorter title. Re-mosquing is apparently a word--but I cannot tell whether it is the usual word. The article is about the overall subject, and it iws much more likely tp be approved under that title. I am an admin, but as ElC says, a tiitle change like that is n

not an admin function, but can be done by any editor. What you need to focus on is improving the draft, not concerning yourself with the title. DGG ( talk ) 07:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect example why 500/30 needed for AA2

This is a perfect example why there should be a 500/30 covering the AA2 area. This continued snipping at the heels of the article by IPs[23][24] to remove what ever they can, since they are offended by the Armenian Genocide. Even the edit summary is idiotic.

""arrived to relieve" It is an attack on an Ottoman city. It's not an operation on their own territory.

So the city of Van was not under siege by Ottoman forces intent on exterminating Armenians? This was not Armenians defending themselves? Instead, an IP can remove information concerning a relief force and state this city was attacked from outside forces. Whatever. I will not be drawn into an edit war(especially in the AA2 region). --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kansas Bear, if it's only IPs, then WP:SEMI is enough. Either way, enacting blanket WP:ECP on a topic area, like as seen in WP:ARBPIA4#Amendment_(September_2021) or WP:APL50030, would be done at ARBCOM's discretion (which you could request for them to do by Motion at WP:ARCA, or by Case by filing a new AA3 request at WP:RFAR). I'd note though that even this blanket prohibition was in the end tempered by regulars at WP:RFPP by generally declining preemptive requests.

I don't think there was ever a blanket semiprotection applied to any topic area, be they WP:ACDS or WP:GS. I'd guess the reason for this is that it's easy to get the WP:CONFIRMED user right (10 edits / 4 days), whereas ECP is, well, WP:500/30. Thus, taking much greater dedication to conceal deeply problematic tendencies. I've indef semi'd that page as an ACDS action. El_C 09:15, 27 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Denialism

Hi ElC. The IP 176.219.214.222 (talk · contribs) and their different dynamic addresses are currently engaged in repeated genocide denial Talk:Armenian_genocide#Suggestion, citing a handful of genocide deniers like Bernard Lewis and Justin McCarthy as their "sources" to prove Armenian genocide wasn't a genocide. Even after being explained all of this by multiple editors [25], [26], [27], they still persist and continue to engage in denialism. Aside from the known denialists Lewis and McCarthy, they also cited Turkish authors and another denialist, Michael Gunter.

Also, it's interesting how a random days/week old IP has Discussion Tools enabled from Preferences, Beta Features. (see their diffs and automatic "Reply" edit description with tags). I think there is a limit on how much a user can engage in their synthesized and extremely undue denialism rants in talk pages, on a crusade to overwrite history. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No comment on anything else, but discussion tools are enabled for everyone by default. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:45, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't the case when I registered. Guess it was changed. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Again, if you have a specific range in mind, link it here so I could assess it for I know when I'm not wanted, I will leave (4). Otherwise, best post your request to a noticeboard of your choosing. El_C 12:28, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help, I requested a range block. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

You were personally mentioned by John Stossel in his review of WP (he did not verbally state your name, but did show your user page): [28] Buffs (talk) 16:36, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm aware. I saw it posted at the WPO. Good thing I have 82 years of driving experience. El_C 16:40, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Radioactive

I'm waking up to ash and dust // I wipe my brow and I sweat my rust --Imagine Dragons-Deepfriedokra (talk) 21:15, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I want more Arcane! Erm: I am intuitive enough to know when I'm not wanted, I will leave (5). El_C 12:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Everytime I see one of those spaceboy clips this song gets stuck in my head. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:39, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool (except for the early 2000s 480p that looks like 240p). I shed a SpaceBowie tear. El_C 12:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I remember finding that album in a used cd store, and not realizing that David Bowie still made music. I picked it up, and ended up becoming a pretty big fan of modern Bowie. My wife likes his old stuff, but gets irked when I play Bring Me the Disco King. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding "Extended confirmed protection"

Dear @El C:, If an editor, who's been an editor since 2008, has 19,261 edits globally, do they meet the requirements in "Extended confirmed protection" here [29]? Thank you, BetsyRMadison (talk) 14:16, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Procedurally, probably not. In spirit, probably yes. But in any case, you can request to have your EC user right expedited at WP:PERM#Extended confirmed. A request which if I were to guess will likely be granted (unless there's something potentially egregious I don't know about (also, I'm not a PERM regular, so, really, just a guess)). HTH. El_C 14:31, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: The EC user right that I'm asking about isn't for me, but for this editor [30]. That editor lives in Ukraine and, as you can imagine, doesn't have much time to address these types of issues. So would be ok if I requested EC user right for them? As you can see, they've made 19,261 edits globally, which seems to be well over 500 edits required. Please advise and thank you so much for taking time to answer. Best regards, BetsyRMadison (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. In answer to your follow up question: honestly, I don't think that would fly. Either they have time/access to edit WWII-era history (I'm presuming), and by extension make a request at PERM (which are generally brief), or they don't. That's my sense of what a response to requesting a PERM on their behalf would go there. But who knows. It's not like you're not allowed to request it on their behalf (at least I don't think), but it is much more likely to get declined than if they were to request it themselves. El_C 15:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you. I will leave them a message on their Talk page for them to request EC user right. To address the edit issue you bring up: the sad part is, they really haven't had time to edit their page since it's put up for "deletion." But the good news is, "Moxy" and "Elinruby" have been working very hard on editing that page to address the issues raised in the AFD deletion request. Thank you so very much for all your help and advice! Best regards to you & yours, BetsyRMadison (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: Sorry to bother you again, but I have two more questions about "Extended confirmed protection"

1) Which wikipedia "edit data" is used to determine if an editor has made over the required "500 edits?" By that I mean, if we look at your "Basic stats" (here [31], it shows you've only made "33 edits" - However your "global edits" are 176,178.
Meaning, if your "basic stats" are used, then you wouldn't meet the 500 edit threshold; but if your "global edits" are used, then you do meet it. (which is the exact same situation the editor I discussed above is in.)

2) If you don't which edit data is used, can you advise on who may know? Thank you so much! Best regards to you & yours, BetsyRMadison (talk) 21:01, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my limited understanding is that the EC user right is gained much like the WP:AUTOCONFIRM one does: some MediaWiki robot counts the edits/time and makes it go when it reaches the 500/30 threshold. But the data gathered is project-specific. Which is to say, would not convert across different language (or other) Wikimedia projects. El_C 22:04, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: Thank you for answering. The editor in question has 16,993 edits in "en.wikipedia" which is well over 500 and seem to be the stats used to meet the threshold, (I think- Lol)? Do you mind comparing their edit stats vs. yours as a way to visualize what I'm talking about? If so, here's their stats [32] & here's yours [33]. By the way, I hope you know that I only compare your stats as an example because I know darn well you meet the threshold. Best to you, and thank you, BetsyRMadison (talk) 22:21, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) You keep using commons.wikimedia.org instead of the English Wikipedia... instead see Sakateka (354) v El_C (184,582) — TNT (talk • she/her) 22:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No quite. El C's basic stats show they made 175,245 edits on en.wp, while the user in question made only 362 edits on en.wp (the rest is on uk.wp). M.Bitton (talk) 22:24, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BetsyRMadison, you linked to edit counts on Wikimedia Commons, not English Wikipedia. This page shows that Sakateka only has 354 live edits on English Wikipedia. 500 edits is the standard for extended confirmed. Cullen328 (talk) 22:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I kept scratching my head, wondering why I'm the only who is seeing 362 instead of 354, until I saw that 8 of their edits were in fact deleted. M.Bitton (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cullen328: Yes, as I said here [34] that was a typo. I mean to say the editor has 16,993 edits in English as the UK.wikipedia is in English. I am very flatter that all you editors are trying to help me understand this. Thanks to you all and best regards to you all! BetsyRMadison (talk) 22:43, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @M.Bitton:. You are correct, I made a typo. My bad, I'm sorry. My brain was faster than my fingers. I meant to say, the editor has 16,993 edits in english. (UK wiki is in english.) Here's a part of confusion for me, the EC requirement only says the editor must have 500 edits and doesn't mention language or country, at least not that I can tell. I'm not trying to sound like a pill, but because the EC doesn't mention language or country, it is confusing to me. But, thank you again M.Bitton, for taking part in this. I greatly appreciate all the expert advice from all you. Best to you, BetsyRMadison (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BetsyRMadison... does https://uk.wikipedia.org look like its in English to you..? o_O — TNT (talk • she/her) 22:41, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my gosh!! Boy do I feel silly! I assumed "UK" was United Kingdom. Thank you @TheresNoTime:! BetsyRMadison (talk) 22:46, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ANI-notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Vpab15 (talk) 21:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Have a Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Hey there El C, I'd like to wish you a happy adminship anniversary! Congratulations on your special day, and thank you for all the contributions you've made.

𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 00:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC) On behalf of the Birthday Committee[reply]

Continued disruption from IP

5.146.248.228 (talk · contribs)

IP5.146.248.228 has continued to make disruptive edits. Here the IP changed a referenced quote, quite literally removing the word Azeri and replacing it with what they want. Is there anything that can be done about this? --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't that that's a disruptive edit, as they provided a reason on why they changed it (and plus, Afshar is just another word for Azeri). TatiVogue (talk) 15:11, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And since you are new, I will explain why we can not do that. Wikipedia is written using WP:RS. We, as editors, can only write what a source says. Not what we think it says, not what we know, not what we think we know, not even what we want it to say. Said IP replaced wording within a referenced quote which is a violation of WP:OR and even worse is source misrepresentation(ie. lying). --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stardew Valley, but with more shit shoveling

Now it's time for all the spring stuff on the homestead. Moved about a ton and a half of compost into my garden beds, got it all mixed in with the soil. Got my garlic from autumn almost ready for harvest. Just planted this year's onions, about 200 red onions and 50 or so yellow onions. Two types of potato started, as well as lettuce and carrots. Another few weeks until the main planting. I have 120 quail eggs due to hatch any minute, got rabbits ready for dispatching this weekend, or maybe next. Bad news is one of the bee hives didn't make it. Luckily, my wife was able to reserve a package of bees to pick up this weekend. Our other hive is doing well though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:37, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice (shit?). Anyway, I, too, follow the big dick garlic school of thought. Also, I've always admired how you're able to keep so many pets to a ripe old age. BTW, did you hear about how I ended the war between WP and WPO peacefully? I am a hero. And I even did it with bad Vigilant rng: "prick" is fair enough (takes one to), but "bad actor"? More like cringe actor, am I white? El_C 10:26, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I haven't seen anything obviously concerning with your behavior, and you went ahead and said anyone could undo your action, which is about as good as one can expect. There will never be peace between WO and WPO as long as (someone's pet issue) isn't resolved.

Got the new bees installed in the hive, and they're doing good, and I redid the whole fence around my bees, and put in a couple yards of pine chunks to keep it nice and neat in there. Not having great luck with the current quail hatching, only getting about a 25% hatch rate. Have another set of eggs in the incubator right now, but if the hatch on them isn't good, we might just drop quail and expand our rabbits.

I hope everything is settled down for you, and turned out well. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:58, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man. It got a bit stressful and overwhelming tbh, but I'm pretty sure this particular flu(ke) is done now. Though I'm one to talk. Hope you and the wife are not passing out due to exhaustion. Sorry my emails have been a bit intermittent lately. And I've barely read, like, 10 pages of Axis since we last spoke; still only at the half-way mark. But I definitely should order Vortex now since it took a while to get Axis. About the next books: are you at all familiar with the Dying Earth series? Big recommend: Jack Vance is just so great and so funny. El_C 11:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'm about halfway through as well, just got into Part 3. We're both pretty run down, about three more weeks of the hard springtime work, and then it should be back on coasting for a while. I'd be less exhausted if Thelma didn't decide to spend two hours right after I tried to go to sleep puking and eating grass to puke more last night. I feel like I've read the Dying Earth books, but if so, long enough ago where I don't accurately recall them.

On an admin note, can you whack РАЗБОЈНИК (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). They're some LTA. Probably need to revdel their edits too. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no! But she's such a good dog. :( NP, pocket admin to the rescue! El_C 11:56, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Second time in a week, not sure what she's been eating. Thanks for the block, appreciated. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:04, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It appears she's been eating the pine chunks I recently bought to landscape inside the bee enclosure and the aisles in my garden. She's not chewing it up fine enough before eating (for whatever reason) the wood, which blocks her up and turns on the canine "puke out everything" reflex. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hope All Is Well

I just saw that you're in the middle of a family emergency. I will send positive energy to you and your family. With love, respect, & best regards, BetsyRMadison (talk) 07:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sending more well wishes your way, Mr. C! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:03, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks BetsyRMadison and Firefangledfeathers, I appreciate your kind words very much.

El_C 10:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glad your back! BetsyRMadison (talk) 11:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May songs

May songs

I took and picked the image last year, DYK? - I have the quirky today, which is rare ;) - best wishes for health, and then Psalm 18 if possible, and perhaps a response to the latest request on my talk: look for "stop", God also mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

more wishes for health! - two songs today: Hey Hey Rise Up! (written by friends) and Glauben können wie du, sung by the person I have on DYK today, right below the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote today's article thinking of you: Yoel Gamzou. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Thanks for wishes. Yeah, was just helping someone out again. It was a scheduled thing, but it went a bit sideways (Harry Potter!), so a couple of days became a couple of weeks. But things are looking okay now, so I should be caught up with IRL backlog and be back to annoying the masses soon! El_C 10:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for having done that! Psalms 18 and 20 waiting (also for me), and 21 in the pipeline, none good for DYK, so take your time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

today more pics, and should this woman have an article? - or only her sons? Psalm 18 is mostly done, my side. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it makes sense to have Psalms 18 laid out like that, though? It has 50 lines, so the raw English text already takes up 80 percent of the page. And if you were to add the Hebrew text as well, it'll come close to 95 percent. I mean, I'll do it, but it's pretty long, so I don't want to do it for naught.

No idea about the countess. I don't know enough about her or her family (which is to say close to nothing) and this isn't really my field. I'd guess that yes, but that's as far as I'd go (which is not much). El_C 10:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure aout the Psalm. Perhaps you could adopt what we do for Psalm 119 KJV, the difference of course being that KJV is Wikisource. I can't tell if the English given for 18 gives a good enough idea of the content, or if things get lost in translation. "No idea" is fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean about Psalms 119. What do I do? Yeah, the inverted ratio of quotes to prose is already quite problematic for the Psalms 18 page right now... El_C 11:13, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Kendrick Album

it’s his weirdest one so far. Not really sure what to think, again he throws a left hook. Best songs so far are the intro and the one with Portishead (can’t believe he has a song with them now). Mirror, N95, Father Time and Count me out were also good. I’ll have to relisten a few times as usual to get a full understanding. One thing I notice is the lack of a “story” and recurring “characters”, unlike his previous albums. Apple Music says the album is about accountability but it seems more like perspective to me (remember the opening lines of The Heart part 5). Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 06:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't heard it yet. I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't even know (or forgot) that there was a new album until Spaceboy mentioned it in passing a couple of days ago. But weird could be good, as long as the flow matches. Will check out soon. El_C 10:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi bigVig

El_C 20:42, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, Vig, you decoded it. It was all a ploy: grudges and cynicism and the triumph of the human spirit. Curiously, back in October, I got applause from you (and not for the first time). But I suppose now it's the downturn's turn (also not for the first time). Till next time (time). El_C 02:18, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vig, honestly, I just don't trust myself to be able to manage WP and the WPO in parallel (threads such as these are rare for a reason). Otherwise, I'd have joined ages ago. I know my limits (well, some of them). El_C 02:28, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tarantino, about the underscore: under-score. El_C 03:14, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, Vig, I meant I don't hold grudges (or at least I try hard not to), not that you hold a grudge against me — if anything, you've been decent to me more than most at the WPO over the years. You just came in swinging hard, which caught me off guard.

In any case, another admin (Galobtter) has now reversed me and the PM right has been re-granted. Personally, I think it's a decision that's likely to come back and bite us, because it often takes a lot of inertia for systemic problems to reach some sort of critical mass. I'm concerned that the user will be emboldened so as to continue to make bad closes/moves (read their very brief closing summary, I found it obviously problematic), even if it may not be to a contested EE/APL page while it's being challenged at AfD (again, IP editor 163.1.15.238 has provided other troubling examples).

But the point (beyond me re-litigating the damn thing here!) is that I genuinely do not feel enmity toward Galobtter for undoing my action (though obviously that isn't something I can prove). I disagree, but I have nothing against them because of it. They also lifted a p-block of mine a few hours earlier (after consulting me), which I didn't disagree with. What I'm trying to get at is that there are so many battles, everywhere all of the time, but I'm trying to tilt at windmills that there's a better way, at least some of the time. But I'm not perfect (_understatement). But I keep trying, hopefully, learning a thing or two along the way (read: forgetting a thing or 3). El_C 10:25, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question

A year ago, you strongly advised me to avoid interacting with user Mhorg. I took your advice very seriously and tried to do just that. So, for example, if I would make a post somewhere noticing user Mhorg directly or indirectly, and especially criticizing him, that would be against your advice. I did not do that. During same time Mhorg did make several postings related to me, even on noticeboards (I can provide diffs if needed). I ignored this per your advice. However, recently Mhorg started following and reverting my edits on several pages (I can provide diffs), posting a question on my talk page, etc. What should I do? Can I consider your previous advise/warning "void" and do whatever without expecting to be sanctioned just for interacting with him or raising issues about his editing? I understand that your advice/warning is still in force. To be honest, I do find editing by this user very problematic and can easily explain why with diffs. My very best wishes (talk) 13:58, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, void. It wouldn't be reasonable to expect you to be in some mute limbo as they are actively engaging you. Sorry, I don't have a firm recollection of my "advise" (warning?) from a year ago and the background surrounding it. But I do seem to recall that they were new to en at that time, which obviously is no longer the case. El_C 14:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thank you! My very best wishes (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm writing here as I have been warned by MVBW that there is this discussion on your tp.

"During same time Mhorg did make several postings related to me, even on noticeboards":[35] MVBW tried to make a 3RR violation report against a user. That user pinged me and I gave my opinion. Result: MVBW was warned by an administrator for mass removals without consensus,[36] yes, the same thing that prompted me to open an AE request against him a year ago.

"posting a question on my talk page": I gave him an answer[37] to his edit summary ("Mhorg. Can you please stop following my edits? Thanks.")[38].

"Mhorg started following and reverting my edits on several pages": No, believe me, I have no passion in following his contributions, and I try to keep our contacts to a minimum, like a year ago. I have no pleasure in seeing me again to argue with him. Unfortunately, we often deal with similar topics. I came to the Zelensky article to make an answer[39] in the discussion page, related to a contribution of user VolunteerMarek.[40]

"Mhorg did make several postings related to me": Maybe user MVBW talks about a long discussion I had with User:Paul_Siebert [41] where I asked to Paul his opinion on MVBW in relation to the problems I was having with him. I also asked to an admin[42] and in "Village pump (policy)"[43] if that discussion could be a policy violation, but didn't have a precise answer.

Just to give El_C some more information on the state of relations between me and the user MVBW, after that warn on the wikihound he reported me in an absurd and inconclusive SPI[44] together with 4 other users because we had a different point of view in a discussion (how strange). This accusation he is making fits into our very bad relationships that we have. I have the impression that the user is again trying to get me warned\banned using these means. Mhorg (talk) 15:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Of course, void. It wouldn't be reasonable to expect you to be in some [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1482967142?t=0h44m37s mute limbo] as they are actively engaging you. Sorry, I don't have a firm recollection of my "advise" (warning?) from a year ago and the background surrounding it. But I do seem to recall that they were new to en at that time, which obviously is no longer the case. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 14:29, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 ::OK, thank you! [[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes|talk]]) 14:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
+:I'm writing here as I have been warned by MVBW that there is this discussion on your tp.
+:"{{tq|During same time Mhorg did make several postings related to me, even on noticeboards}}":[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive451#User:M.Bitton_reported_by_User:My_very_best_wishes_(Result:_Filer_warned)] MVBW tried to make a 3RR violation report against a user. That user pinged me and I gave my opinion. Result: MVBW was warned by an administrator for mass removals without consensus,[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FEdit_warring&type=revision&diff=1087191711&oldid=1087181411] yes, the same thing that prompted me to open an AE request against him a year ago.
+:"{{tq|posting a question on my talk page}}": I gave him an answer[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMy_very_best_wishes&type=revision&diff=1087775057&oldid=1087519402] to his edit summary ("Mhorg. Can you please stop following my edits? Thanks.")[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Volodymyr_Zelenskyy&type=revision&diff=1087707508&oldid=1087617027].
+:"{{tq|Mhorg started following and reverting my edits on several pages}}": No, believe me, I have no passion in following his contributions, and I try to keep our contacts to a minimum, like a year ago. I have no pleasure in seeing me again to argue with him. Unfortunately, we often deal with similar topics. I came to the Zelensky article to make an answer[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Volodymyr_Zelenskyy&diff=1087480082&oldid=1086844600] in the discussion page, related to a contribution of user VolunteerMarek.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Somalia_Battalion&type=revision&diff=1087393705&oldid=1087181555]
+:"{{tq|Mhorg did make several postings related to me}}": Maybe user MVBW talks about a long discussion I had with [[User:Paul_Siebert]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Paul_Siebert/Archive_7#Your_opinion] where I asked to Paul his opinion on MVBW in relation to the problems I was having with him. I also asked to an admin[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AYmblanter&type=revision&diff=1027211635&oldid=1027210113] and in "Village pump (policy)"[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_166#Am_I_canvassing%3F] if that discussion could be a policy violation, but didn't have a precise answer.
+:Just to give El_C some more information on the state of relations between me and the user MVBW, after that warn on the wikihound he reported me in an absurd and inconclusive SPI[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/MPSCL/Archive] together with 4 other users because we had a different point of view in a discussion (how strange). This accusation he is making fits into our very bad relationships that we have. I have the impression that the user is again trying to get me warned\banned using these means. [[User:Mhorg|Mhorg]] ([[User talk:Mhorg|talk]]) 15:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


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