User talk:Alansohn

Tenafly High School

In regard to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenafly_High_School I am actually related to him and have been trying to find other verifiable information online but sadly there is not much outside of facebook groups / the IMDB page that references the High School. Outside of miracle of finding a copy of his yearbook online, how could I find further references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.89.42 (talk) 04:23, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Correction I did find this as a reference from the 1976 yearbook, sadly you can't see the actual page without paying, but it does show excerpts from it showing that he was on the track team that year for THS. http://www.e-yearbook.com/yearbooks/Tenafly_High_School_Tenakin_Yearbook/1976/Page_203.html

Stray messages

Hi, Alan. I made some edits to restore Daniel Karcher and Christina Ricci to Montclair High notable alumni, with additional references to their notability, but I think I may have inadvertently affected two others listed, as I used "undo." My apologies.

' An alumnus (plural alumni), according to the American Heritage Dictionary, is "a graduate of a school, college, or university." '  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.189.98 (talk) 20:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC) 

Apologies, I'm rather shabby when it comes to Wiki editing. This biography states that she was born in Harrison, New Jersey and also contains a quote from Barry Ulanov from the February 22nd edition of Down Beat in which he states that she is a New Jersey-ite. Is this acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antonio013 (talk • contribs) 20:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Alan, a 3rd opinion was posted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Carteret,_New_Jersey and also a couple of changes were made after that 3rd opinion, I thought I'd let you know so you can view them as well. CapMan07008 (talk) 00:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Alan, I understand the policy and the need for it. Thank you for the kind condolences. Here is a link to the NYT obituary: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/16/business/george-devol-developer-of-robot-arm-dies-at-99.html The parts about science fiction and the cocktail party are totally wrong, but otherwise they did a good job. Grandpa swore up and down he never read a science fiction book in his life. His "inspiration" for the industrial robot came from years of manufacturing and visiting factories to find more efficient ways of doing things. The cocktail party story was contrived by Joe (whom he met 2 years after applying for the seminal robot patent) to get some press.

I am not very good at navigating Wikipedia, so I hope you will be able to see this response. Thank you for your work in editing his Wikipedia page. The next edition of Robot Magazine will have an article about Unimation by Leslie Ballard who extensively interviewed Devol about a year ago and who was already working with George Munson of Unimation regarding the book Munson was writing.

- William Wardlow (bangthedash101)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.162.92 (talk) 03:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC) 

Hey got a message from you. I never made an edit 'flute'. It wasn't me. Shabba. TimYoung2 (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:90.204.178.66

Same thing happened to me, said I edited a page on the recoilless rifle. I don't edit wiki pages. -Tai — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.90.5 (talk) 18:28, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know that we too have had an incorrect message about changing an entry on Adeline André, someone we have never heard of! I have made small edits to pages in the past but only when I know I am correct and certainly not this one. Here is the link to our message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:86.16 - Shirley - mid-Aug 2011

IP addresses may end up being shared by different users. If you didn't make the edit, don't worry. Alansohn (talk) 15:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2010 June newsletter

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Thank you for leaving the article Russ Feingold alone, as a show of gratitude, I wanted to leave it the way it was. Please leave it alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbert94 (talk • contribs)

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User:Johnpacklambert

Carefully scrutinize edits by this editor, because he is removing numbers of Latinos from Whites in reporting census data, because he doesn't think that Latinos can be White. It's racism pure and simple and please don't assist him in perpetuating these views, repeated all over the place where he feels compelled to warn readers that Whites may include "Middle Easterners", etc. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:49, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I am about to give up on census editing

It seems no matter what I do I get attacked for it. I guess my attempt to explain why the splitting out of Asian sub-category data as if it did not include the 0.3% of the population in La Palma that reported being Asian and Hispanic was not included in the sub-categories of Asian in the report on the various racial groupings that was not excluding Hispanics was confusing. here is a link to that discussion, which I will admit should probably have been worded more politely. [1] It is at the botton of the page under the heading La Palma 2010 demographic figures errors. I maybe should not have made the point, but I guess I underestimated the vindictiveness of the editor/administrator in question. This link [2] might go to the edit history of Galt, California. I guess I did not explain what I was doing the best, so Mr. Suzrez decided to revert my edit. He is evidently of the opinion that use of the term "non-Hispanic white" makes someone racist, as he alleges on my talk page. He is of course ignoring the fact that 2000 census data only ever included non-Hispanic white as a listed non-Hispanic citation and even more is ignoring the fact that when most people speak of the white population they really do mean the non-Hispanic white population or even something more restricted. It is on my talk page though that he crossed all lines of decorum in my view. He threatens to block me for updating census figures and using the non-Hispanic white data. Such threatening behavior is quite high-handed of him. I was going to report this behavior of his on the etiquette page, but the whole process is way to complexed and asks questions that they do not make it clear what they want someone to say, so I gave up and decided to try and do this report instead.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 June newsletter

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Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report and lead in tap water

Hi!

You may note the appendices themselves, of course; but you are right. I've been thinking of adding a short section named Controversy, with a summary of the relevant parts of Lead contamination in Washington, D.C. drinking water, a reference to that as the "main article", and also copies of a few of the relevant external links from that article. However, since the emphasis here should be on the MMWR, the fact that actually two "amendments" were added in 2010 should be a major point. I surmise, that this is rather unusual.

Do you think that this is a good idea? And, by the way, do you think that "amendment" is the best word? I thought of "correction", but I'm not quite sure that this isn't a bit too strong. JoergenB (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes. I'll try to write that Controversy section now; and might double some appropriate reference about the House committee criticism, putting it also at the end of the edit I've already made.

I'll be happy for criticism. Controversies sometimes are a bit controversal:-); and, while important such should be mentioned, they should not be given improper emphasis, nor (of course) present facts in a biased manner. This is not always easy...

I also thought of introducing a short section about the controversy in the CDC article, since seemingly it also received some direct criticism. However, making a balanced exposition here could be even harder, since the matters seem to more "vague" than for the MMWR (where it centres around one report). JoergenB (talk) 19:06, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I tried to write that "short" section - but didn't quite succeed... c.f. Talk:Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. JoergenB (talk) 15:36, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

hello alanson, did you edit the artical st cummin in 2009 about nov. [user name pcummin 80.254.146.140 (talk) 14:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)]

Politz Day School

Hi there. Would you be able to find any enrollment information and other data for this page that you usually add to school pages? Many thanks! Tinton5 (talk) 20:56, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Alansohn, I am very thankful for the help you have given regarding the Patrick J. Diegnan page. It is much appreciated, and I will follow your advice regarding neutrality stringently. I'm new to wikipedia, but it's comforting to know people like you are out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickDiegnan (talk • contribs)

• It's the least I can do. Let me know if I can help with this article or anything else. Alansohn (talk) 16:28, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Interview at Wikimania 2011

Hello Alan! My name is Aaron Muszalski and I'm a Storyteller at the Wikimedia Foundation. I'll be traveling to Wikimania next month to collect editor stories for our 2011 Fundraiser. While there I'd love the chance to meet with you and hear your thoughts about Wikipedia.

If you're interested, please email me at amuszalskiwikimedia.org — Thanks!

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Merge discussion for Legal status of Texas and Republic of Texas (group)

An article that you have been involved in editing, "Republic of Texas (group)" and another, "Legal status of Texas" has been proposed for a merge with Texas Secession Movement. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Otr500 (talk) 05:45, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Blocking vandal

As you seem to have set a blocking procedure in motion, you may wish to know that user 67.84.231.145 seems to have vandalized Essex County, New York. I've just reverted it, but I`m not sure of the procedure for blocking.. admin needed?andycjp (talk) 00:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Fort Lee High School

Why did you revert this edit? Your edit summary implies that you thought I deleted the content by accident. I deleted it on purpose because, as I said in my edit summary, it is non-notable, recent local news. Someone's setting a school record, or a team's competing in a state-level competition, is not really encyclopedia-worthy. The fact that it's sourced doesn't mean it's due. rʨanaɢ (talk) 11:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I know that your deletion was deliberate and I appreciate your concerns. High school sports accomplishments may seem minor in the scope of world events, but get consistent media coverage and are a regular component of high school articles around the country and are typical in the several hundred entries in the List of high schools in New Jersey. I think that in the edit to Fort Lee High School, an athlete being the first ever from the school to make it to the Meet of Champions is notable. The tennis team didn't make it as far as expected, but a top seed in the state tournament is a respectable accomplishment. While I would probably not have added the material myself, there were sources available to support material that someone else had cut-and-pasted into the article from a school announcement page and I tried to give the material the benefit of the doubt. I hope you will too in light of the prevalence of such material in comparable articles. Alansohn (talk) 14:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Newbie's edit of Bergen Catholic High School

Hello. Given the quality of that person's edit here being properly formatted and piping common names to article titles, it seems very unlikely that this is a new editor. The fact that this IP address only has one edit makes this seem even more likely to be the case. If you buy my reasoning so far then the next step is to realize that since this is not a new editor this means that their IP address changes and leaving a message on that particular IP page stands a very good chance of going unread. Instead I left an edit summary that I felt explained the situation pretty clearly (and nicely and in a place I felt they were far more likely to see given what I just said) especially to someone who appears to know how to edit Wikipedia competently.

As for his article stating he attended the school I totally missed that. Since the edit was well done I did click on the name but in scanning the article I didn't notice the line about his attending Bergen. The section titled "College" starts off talking about his college career so I pretty much skipped the rest of that section and just didn't see the Bergen line. And in scanning the rest of the article nothing else popped up. Had I seen that line I would have added a citation to the article instead of reverting.

Finally, adding "citation needed" tags to every IP edit of notable lists on Wikipedia means that those lists will fill up with redlinks and/or vandalism. If you choose to hunt down citations for every one of those claims then I applaud your effort but how do you determine you've wasted enough time trying to source something that isn't true?

Finally (for reals this time), if you're going to accuse me of being an "experienced editor" then instead of lecturing me on the finer points of dealing with IPs and Wikipedia policy and guidelines perhaps it would serve us both best to ask me why I did what I did instead of jumping to any conclusions. This is not to say I found your message overly offensive, and certainly do not think your intent was to insult me, but the assumption that I don't know the very basics of editing Wikipedia and dealing with other editors does rub a little wrong. SQGibbon (talk) 06:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Just to make it clear, it was the implication (I'm not claiming to know what your intent was) that I blindly reverted without making any effort at all to handle the situation better is what I had a problem with. I did consider the "newbie" status of the editor and concluded that this wasn't the case. I did scan the article about the subject (and admit to doing it badly since I did not see the claim that supported the edit under contention). And I did leave what I thought was an appropriate message in the one place I thought the editor was most likely to see it (the edit summary). Yes, I could have gone even further to investigate the issue but based on my quick (maybe too quick) assessment (experienced editor, lack of support in the subject's article, IP jumping or an editor who forgot to log in) this did not seem warranted. I am glad that you did read the subject's article more carefully than I did and added the citation, thanks for that. As I said, I did not think you were trying to insult me, but your note could be interpreted as insulting and I just wanted to deal with that. SQGibbon (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, we're fine. SQGibbon (talk) 17:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Primary Source Information

What citation is required when an individual adds information to an article that pertains themself?

Yanceycravat (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

question about adding external links at Morristown

Hello-

I would like to add more reference to photo links for Morristown. I got your message, but I did not understand your comment Do you want to add citations and list item link in the reference section or is it ok to create a direct link using a word? There are many historic photographs that I would like to link to.

Could you show me an example of what you mean? Couldyou send me an example of the code you prefer?

Thanks-

Study2much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Study2much (talk • contribs) 23:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Morristown copy

Hello-

Thank you for getting back to me. I have some thoughts about improving the wording on this site but would prefer to collaborate and discuss before publishing. Is there some way that I could do this? My feeling is that the Morristown site has some great information but that the chronology is a bit disjointed. I am not sure how it works here. I would like to help edit the site.

Thanks S2M — Preceding unsigned comment added by Study2much (talk • contribs) 13:49, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep my eye on the page. Thanks for all your improvements. Alansohn (talk) 15:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Telephone Exchanges

My primary source is http://www.sandman.com/colookup.asp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Westvillage (talk • contribs) 14:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Alansohn (talk) 15:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Earl Best DYK has failed?

Tried for DYK on Earl Best as "The Street Doctor." Got one comment saying they wanted source for facts, replied that there was a footnote at the end of the paragraph. Now DYK has disappeared, maybe it didn't make it? Any help or suggestons? Trilliumz (talk) 03:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Earl Best

The DYK nomination for Earl Best appears to have been removed from T:TDYK in this edit, but doesn't appear to have been migrated. The editor who made the nom is relatively new to the process and it appears that the issue raised about sourcing the hook has been addressed. Please let me know what can be done to get this hook approved and migrated. Alansohn (talk) 18:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Alansohn, for pointing this out to me. {{Template talk:Did you know/Earl Best}} was removed from T:TDYK by me by mistake. I have just restored it to T:TDYK. The nomination should get evaluated with the rest of the noms on T:TDYK and moved to queue as usual. Review has already started by Panyd (talk · contribs). Pls contact Panyd directly about getting her approval. Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 03:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

We are half way through the penultimate round of this year's WikiCup; there is less than a month to go before we have our final 8. Our pool leaders are Adabow (submissions) (Pool A, 189 points) and PresN (submissions) (Pool B, 165 points). The number of points required to reach the next round is not clear at this time; there are some users who still do not have any recorded points. Please remember to update your submissions' pages promptly. In addition, congratulations to PresN, who scored the first featured topic points in the competition for his work on Thatgamecompany related articles. Most points this round generally have, so far, come from good articles, with only one featured article (White-bellied Sea Eagle, from Casliber (submissions)) and two featured lists (Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, from PresN and Grammy Award for Best Native American Music Album, from Another Believer (submissions)). Points for Did You Know and good article reviews round out the scoring. No points have been awarded for In the News, good topics or featured pictures this round, and no points for featured sounds or portals have been awarded in the entire competition. On an unrelated note, preparation will be beginning soon for next year's WikiCup- watch this space!

There is little else to be said beyond the usual. Please list anything you need reviewing on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, so others following the WikiCup can help, and please do help if you can by providing reviews for the articles listed there. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews generally at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup- points are, of course, offered for reviews at GAC. Two final notes: Firstly, please remember to state your participation in the WikiCup when nominating articles at FAC. Finally, some WikiCup-related statistics can be seen here and here. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 11:21, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, just to let you know that Disappearance of Susan Powell is up for AfD,--BabbaQ (talk) 14:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Sheeri Cabral and Indian Hills High School

With regards to: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:65.96.211.213&redirect=no

She graduated in the class of 1996; have you tried using her maiden name, Sheeri Kritzer? I'm not sure if there's anything on the internet that says where she went to high school, but if you're close with the high school perhaps you can find a yearbook from 1996? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.211.213 (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker): A yearbook would not be a reliable source, because there would be no way for us to know if the person in the yearbook is the same "Sheeri Krtizer/Cabral" as the one described in the article. Instead, it has to be a newspaper article, a reliable magazine, etc. I've removed her from the list again because WP:NLIST says we can't have people on lists like that waiting for a citation; once a citation is found, then she can be re-added. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

But in a newspaper article, how would you know it's the same person? I can contact her and have her update her wikipedia page with the high school she went to if you'd like, and perhaps a picture too? At least with a yearbook you'd see her picture and probably could tell it's her, compared to a more recent picture? *shrug* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.211.213 (talk) 05:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I was more willing to allow an opportunity to find a source, Qwyrxian's edit is entirely appropriate. If you look at the entry for Karen McCullah Lutz in the article for Indian Hills, the source is rather unambiguous that she attended the school, and that the reference is about the person described. Alansohn (talk) 05:38, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha. I looked online and couldn't find any references, probably because she graduated before most of that stuff was all over the internet. I'll contact her and let her know what's up, she might be able to remember if she was ever in a local newspaper or something mentioning her high school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.211.213 (talk) 13:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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This is from Sheeri, a friend directed me here. How's this for some notable references? Note that all references are to my maiden name, "Sheeri Kritzer".

Suburban News, Feb 23, 1994 (page 33, hometown section) article entitled "Academic Decathlon scheduled" mentions that I'm a member of the IHHS team.

Villadom Times, March 16, 1994 (page 10) article entitled "FLOW Students take first and third place in Academic Decathlon" mentions me as a student: "The following Indian Hills students also won individual awards: .... Sheeri Kritzer and Evelyn Huang, alternates' medals in science"

The Record (of Bergen County), September 28, 1993 (page D-5) sidebar entitled "Two Win Science Honor", starts off with "Sheeri Kritzer and Joshua Kritzer, sophomores at Indian Hills High School in Oakland, have earned entry into Columbia University's Science Honors Program."

Hopefully three references to newspapers are enough. I have the clippings if you'd like me to scan them in. I'd appreciate it if you could reinstate my affiliation with Indian Hills High School (with appropriate citations, of course). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awfief (talk • contribs) 12:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Jewish entertainers

I was going to ask you which entries you restored that you thought were sourcable, but it looks like you deleted most of the page? (accidentally, I have to assume?) BTW, do you know how to create that special reference section that condenses all of them into a kind of scrollable field (I know that's a weird description). Putting all the references into that would make the page much smaller. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:49, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I sincerely apologize if any content got lost. The article is far too large to edit in any meaningful fashion and my efforts to add sources for unsourced entries and replace / update any dead sources ran into constant issues just with previewing. I would suggest that there be some discussion on how to split the article first, but I already have most of the sources needed for most of the entries you had removed, though there are several that I agree should be removed. Alansohn (talk) 07:54, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I removed only people who were / are not Jewish "at all" - i.e. they had no Jewish ancestry that I could trace and did not convert to Judaism. (Kerri Green is the exception - I don't know her background, but I can find no source). In one case, I left a person who I knew only had a Jewish great-grandparent. I even left Oliver Stone. So some of those should definitely be removed. As for the rest, the ones I removed - Margo Stilley was going to convert to Judaism, but apparently never did. Nicole Eggert I can't find a source on, but I doubt it. Missy Gold had a Jewish stepfather but non-Jewish parents. Kellie Martin isn't Jewish. Seth Meyers is misreported in "bad" sources as being Jewish, but is apparently not. Keri Russell used the term "all my Jewish grandmothers", which was misconstrued as meaning her literal grandmother (I think she meant her worried friends or something - weird, I know); but she has no Jewish ancestry and was raised a Mormon. Embeth Davidtz isn't Jewish (and neither is her surname). Tracey Gold has the same background as her sister. Daryl Hannah's source states that she isn't of Jewish ancestry nor a convert. Jack Warden is one quarter Pennsylvania Dutch (Deutch) and the rest evidently Irish; was listed as Jewish on IMDB, which then was listed in his Guardian obit (the whole story is on his talk page). Steven Wright just isn't Jewish, and I don't think the Walker brothers are either. Victor Fleming and Bill Nye have no Jewish ancestry. Florenz Ziegfeld had a German Lutheran father and a Catholic Belgian mother, but was frequently rumored to be Jewish. Those are the ones I removed. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 08:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with several of your deletions, and I will never accept IMDb as a source. Let me go through the list and I will confirm one way or the other on questionable cases. I appreciate your efforts and patience in making this article accurate, well-sourced and readable. Alansohn (talk) 08:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

As an example, I thought I had recognized your quote about Keri Russell, but this source states "Russell, who is Jewish, said it was 'nonsense' in an exclusive interview with the magazine, out this month. She said: 'I had all my Jewish grandmothers calling, going, 'Is Keri a Scientologist? Do we have to be worried?'.'" (sorry for the nested quotes), which makes a rather affirmative statement regarding her religion, and her quote appears intended to emphasize her Jewish identity. Alansohn (talk) 08:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The Daily Mail wasn't the original source of the interview. The original interview was in a magazine that did not include the line "Russell is Jewish". (the magazine was Vanity Fair - I believe the Mail article mentions that). I was unsure about how accurate this was until last year, when I was finally able to find Russell's family tree. The genealogical heritage of Keri Russell is traced right here or here in a different way of viewing it. There's not a lot on her paternal grandparents, but their names aren't very Jewish. Her maternal grandparents, however, don't have any traceable Jewish ancestry at all. In fact, they have a lot of Utah(-born) ancestry, which fits with the Mormon claim that gets floated around the net about Russell (the closest thing to Jewish ancestry on her mother's side is the name "Leavitt" - but this name goes back to New England Colonial Leavitts on Russell's tree, not Jewish Leavitts). The fact that Russell didn't mention being Jewish before or since this interview plays into that. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Earl Best one more time

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Article on a New Jersey Activist

Would you be interested in re-writing/editiing and resubmitting an article concerning a well recognized local political activist and veterans advocate? (Mooney1084v (talk) 21:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC))

Thank you for your swift response. Have you had the opportunity to review the original article?

Each and every factual statement made therein was sourced (29 provided) and numerous other news reports and articles exist (more than 80 stories in The Star Ledger alone), though much of it is currently archived.

Would your taking a look and critiquing the original article be advisable as a starting point?

Your advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 23:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC))

Longport, New Jersey

Good call, thanks--I should have looked more closely at the Delaney article, I guess I just took that on good faith. Thanks also for spotting that spam link. Drmies (talk) 16:05, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Earl Best needs more help

Any ideas on how to get this one right? Can you edit to meet concerns, or figure out what's going on here? Trilliumz (talk) 02:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I'll take a look and see what I can do to get this moved along. Alansohn (talk) 02:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

A Palestinian rabbi for you!

Thanks for your support at the Afd on Palestinian rabbis. Chesdovi (talk) 14:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

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Article on New Jersey Activist (Gary R. Englert)

Alansohn,

I'm reposting this as perhaps you missed it as you've yet to respond:

Thank you for your swift response. Have you had the opportunity to review the original article?

Each and every factual statement made therein was sourced (29 provided) and numerous other news reports and articles exist (more than 80 stories in The Star Ledger alone), though much of it is currently archived.

Would your taking a look and critiquing the original article be advisable as a starting point?

Your advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC))

Thanks for the reminder. I will take some time out to review the article and sources, and to figure out the best way to proceed. Alansohn (talk) 00:30, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Inland Fisher Guide Plant (New Jersey)

Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Nat Allbright

Materialscientist (talk) 08:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Mardy Fish

Epeefleche has a history of this with me. He'll add in that someone is "Jewish" because a reference like The Jewish Chronicle or Tablet said so, even when there's an interview with that person when they explain their full background (i.e. Jewish father, Catholic mother, raised both, like Sam Fuld). He'll remove that detail and add in simply "Jewish" based on the source. However, this is not one of those cases. This is a case where Fish was even asked in an interview about whether he was going to convert to his wife's Jewish faith. Epeefleche simply ignores this interview and continues to persist because two not particularly reliable sources listed Fish as Jewish (Mardy himself has never said so... for obvious reasons). You can find all kinds of mistakes in reference books, websites, etc. that list people by ethnicity/religion and yet Epeefleche keeps trumping these over interviews with the subjects of the article, for example. He really needs to stop. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:16, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Shiloh, New Jersey

Hey, would you mind stopping by at Talk:Shiloh, Cumberland County, New Jersey, so we could get some more feedback? Thanks a lot. Tinton5 (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Great Egg Harbor Bay

A page I just made, which could use some expansion. Do you think this is the same name as the Great Egg Harbor? Or is this referring to the inlet? – Tinton5 (talk) 06:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

The finals are upon us; we're down to the last few. One of the eight remaining contestants will be this year's WikiCup champion! 150 was the score needed to progress to the final; just under double the 76 required to reach round 4, and more than triple the 41 required to reach round 3. Our eight finalists are:

• Casliber (submissions), Pool A's winner. Casliber has the highest total score in the competition, with 1528, the bulk of which is made up of 8 featured articles. He has the highest number of total featured articles (8, 1 of which was eligible for double points) and total did you knows (72) of any finalist. Casliber writes mostly on biology, including ornithology, botany and mycology.
• PresN (submissions), Pool B's winner and the highest scorer this round. PresN is the only finalist who has scored featured topic points, and he has gathered an impressive 330, but most of his points come from his 4 featured articles, one of which scored double. PresN writes mostly on video games and the Hugo Awards.
• Hurricanehink (submissions), Pool A's runner-up. Hurricanehink's points are mostly from his 30 good articles, more than any other finalist, and he is also the only finalist to score good topic points. Hurricanehink, as his name suggests, writes mostly on meteorology.
• Wizardman (submissions), Pool B's runner-up. Wizardman has completed 86 good article reviews, more than any other finalist, but most of his points come from his 2 featured articles. Wizardman writes mostly on American sport, especially baseball.
• Miyagawa (submissions), the "fastest loser" (Pool A). Miyagawa has written 3 featured lists, one of which was awarded double points, more than any other finalist, but he was awarded points mostly for his 68 did you knows. Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, including dogs, military history and sport.
• Resolute (submissions), the second "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Resolute's points come from his 9 good articles. He writes mostly on Canadian topics, including ice hockey.
• Yellow Evan (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool A). Most of Evan's points come from his 10 good articles, and he writes mostly on meteorology.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Phil's points come from his 9 good articles, 4 of which (more than any other finalist) were eligible for double points. He writes mostly on aeronautics.

We say goodbye to our seven other semi-finalists, Another Believer (submissions), Piotrus (submissions), Grandiose (submissions), Stone (submissions), Eisfbnore (submissions), Canada Hky (submissions) and MuZemike (submissions). Everyone still in the competition at this stage has done fantastically well, and contributed greatly to Wikipedia. We're on the home straight now, and we will know our winner in two months.

In other news, preparations for next year's competition have begun with a brainstorming thread. Please, feel free to drop by and share any thoughts you have about how the competition should work next year. Sign ups are not yet open, but will be opened in due course. Watch this space. Further, there has been a discussion about the rule whereby those in the WikiCup must delcare their participation when nominating articles at featured article candidates. This has resulted in a bot being created by new featured article delegate Ucucha (talk · contribs). The bot will leave a message on FAC pages if the nominator is a participant in the WikiCup.

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Article on New Jersey Activist (Gary R. Englert) Redux

Alansohn,

Have you had an opportunity to review this article yet?

Your advice would be appreciated.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 15:26, 6 September 2011 (UTC))

I've been gathering pieces that might be part of a notable article and doing continuing research. I hope to make a decision on the sources over the next few weeks and to get started around that time if the materials are adequate. Alansohn (talk) 15:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Alansohn,

Thank you for this advice. Please keep me apprised as you progress.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 17:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC))

Signature Offensive?

I hope my new sig does not offend you. If i get my username changed will that be okay with you? The Determinator p t c 19:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Remember that people who see your signature will be unable to determine your actual user name. "Offended" may have been too much on my part, but I always view my job as building an encyclopedia. If I'm not adding new material or creating new articles, I'm doing my best to add sources to back up what's already here. Terminator or Determinator, the title comes across like the Vietnam War adage that "We had to destroy the village to save it", an approach that didn't work there either. Alansohn (talk) 20:08, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Bulleting at Moorestown High School

Alansohn,

Thank you for your post. There were a lot of lists with bullets. I think that a mix of text and bullet lists is the best approach. I'd like to see a succinct article that is characterized by a high level of readability, accuracy, clarity and professionalism. To this end, emphasizing a person's name with a bold font, particularly in a text format, is both effective and succinct. Also, phrases such as Group III could be reduced by adding an opening statement that, unless noted, MHS is a Group III athletic program. Other phrases, such as All America, could be reduced. Robert M. Hunt (talk) 12:57, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Trouble locating Ancora Psychiatric Hospital

I am about to create this page, but I came across a problem, regarding the hospital's location. This source: [3], says it is located in Winslow Twp, while this one: [4] says Hammonton. There is an unincorporated place in Winslow called Ancora, according to the Winslow Township, New Jersey page. What would you think? Tinton5 (talk) 18:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Google Maps shows it as being in Winslow Township. (Or at least that is how I interpret the shading, which usually indicates a municipal border.) It probably has a Hammonton mailing address, but physically it is in Winslow Township. Neutron (talk) 20:45, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Be extremely careful about using Google Maps, which can often be inaccurate with municipal boundaries. It's a great resource, but not definitive, unlike the Census info. Alansohn (talk) 20:57, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

If you click on this link from the Census Bureau, you can enter an address and ZIP code and get the full census hierarchy for its location. With the address of 301 Spring Road, 08037 entered, it shows up with a street address in Hammonton, but an actual location of Winslow Township. The post office can arbitrarily assign addresses to ZIP codes, creating confusion as we have here. I've seen this recently for Old Bridge High School, which is in Old Bridge Township, New Jersey, but has a Matawan, New Jersey mailing address. Residents of Rahway, New Jersey fought to have the name of Rahway State Prison changed, because the facility is in Woodbridge Township, New Jersey, but it had long been assigned a Rahway mailing address that they believed reflected negatively on all of Rahway. Alansohn (talk) 20:53, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

And the residents of Rahway succeeded; your link goes to a redirect. :) (Actually I am fairly certain they made the change to all NJ state prisons, none of them are named after the town they are in (or next to) anymore.) Neutron (talk) 00:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Here is the page I created last night, Ancora Psychiatric Hospital. It could use expansion, and possible updated information. Tinton5 (talk) 17:44, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

• PS, some sources say the hospital has 600 beds, others say 750, etc. Tinton5 (talk) 17:46, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

I saw the article last night when you were adding it in elsewhere. Nice work on an article that has been needed for some time. Alansohn (talk) 17:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rosedale, Lawrence Township, New Jersey

Hi, because of your expertise with New Jersey articles, your input here would be welcome. TerriersFan (talk) 00:16, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Union City

Agreed. But why the 2014 after Mayor Stack's name? Was this intended to be 2010? And if so, shouldn't it list his entire term, which is from 2000 to the present? Nightscream (talk) 20:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

It's his term-end year. I realize that it's unclear and added it to the infobox. Alansohn (talk) 20:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Why put the end of the term? Is this standard practice? It seems rather arbitrary. Are you sure putting "2000 - present" doesn't make more sense? Nightscream (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Shermer

Yeah. I'm listening to the audiobook. It's the ninth book of his that I've read. I understand that it summarizes stuff he's previously talked about. I recommend Why People Believe Weird Things. It's the first book from him that I read, and it's a good primer on the methodology with which to approach empirical ideas and claims. Happy reading. :-) Nightscream (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

My London Girl

Please, if you have the time, could you write an article about the business My London Girl. It has recently opened up in Westfield and has been in the newspapers recently and has caused much publicity about it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.207.171 (talk) 13:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello

I just thought I'd let you know that I saw your article Newark Collegiate Academy in the New Articles list-- The layout of the article makes it very clear. It would be great if you could also upload a picture for the related article Colonial Hills Conference. Jipinghe (talk) 17:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 September newsletter

We are on this year's home straight, with less than a month to go until the winner of the 2011 WikiCup will be decided. The fight for first place is currently being contested by Miyagawa (submissions), Hurricanehink (submissions) and Sp33dyphil (submissions), all of whom have over 200 points. This round has already seen multiple featured articles (1991 Atlantic hurricane season from Hurricanehink and Northrop YF-23 from Sp33dyphil) and a double-scoring featured list (Miyagawa's 1948 Summer Olympics medal table). The scores will likely increase far further before the end of the round on October 31 as everyone ups their pace. There is not much more to say- thoughts about next year's competition are welcome on the WikiCup talk page or the scoring talk page, and signups will open once a few things have been sorted out.

If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 12:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you for your dilligent work, and your diplomatic, unbiased editing. DissatisfiedParent (talk) 23:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Article on New Jersey Activist (Gary R. Englert) Redux II

Alansohn,

It's a month since we last spoke about this article.

Have you made any progress or reached a determination?

Your advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

(Mooney1084v (talk) 22:34, 7 October 2011 (UTC))

Alansohn,

Have you made any progress with this?

(Mooney1084v (talk) 14:40, 16 November 2011 (UTC))

Carteret Recent Changes

Some recent changes were made to Carteret, NJ. I have no objections to the changes that were made, but from what I remember we had slightly differing POV on the South Asian Community weight. Please look at these. Thanks The Determinator p t c 23:58, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Peggy Lehner

Could you update this article, Peggy Lehner, to demonstrate the following? It was recently reverted from vandalism but there is a lot of good information that can be salvaged to make this a better article.

sock. Marcus Qwertyus 20:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: fractional faculty

Thanks for explaining the "55.1" faculty figure. However, it seems to me that if you're going to put "Faculty: 55.1" in an infobox, it's confusing. People who see the word "Faculty" think of humans, not the esoteric statistic FTE. Maybe you could change it so that it says "FTE: 55.1" to avoid that confusion. I think full-time faculty is a better statistic anyway--people want to know how many people are employed, not some cooked-up number that factors in each faculty member's particular schedule. In addition, Wardlaw-Hartridge teachers often work extra hours for sports games, help sessions, after-school programs, etc., so I'm sure the statistic doesn't even accurately reflect the actual number of faculty-hours. Inasilentway (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22

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Union City population density

Sorry, I missed that part. Nightscream (talk) 07:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

User:Tinton5/Saint Joan of Arc School

Hello. If you get a chance, would you be able to insert the school data for this newly created page? I will move it to article space once it expands. Thank you very much! – Tinton5 (talk) 07:27, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Harmonization

Do you prefer "First Reformed Dutch Church, Hackensack, New Jersey" or First Reformed Dutch Church, (Hackensack, New Jersey)" as the standard? It seems that the parenthetical version is growing in popularity. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 03:45, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm unsure of the standard for churches, but the advantage of parentheses is that the link can be piped more readily. I'd prefer parenthese all other things being equal, but I'd follow whatever standard exists first. Alansohn (talk) 20:14, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Jarrod Johnson

Thanks. I re-added him here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.121.92 (talk) 20:11, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Wow, I was just getting around to making all of the necessary additions and I couldn't have done it myself that quickly and I was the one who recreated the article. Thanks for catching the addition and making the change so promptly. Alansohn (talk) 20:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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Revert re F1 race in Weehawken

It is generally--though not always--my practice to remove unsourced material, and leave a polite message on the talk page of the editor who added it (in cases where the addition was recent, and the editor in question obvious), so that he/she can do so themselves. Sometimes, on the other hand, I'll fact tag it, or find sources for it myself, depending on the type of material it is, and on other circumstances. But in general, the burden of sourcing should be on the person who favors including that material, and not others. If each person who wants to add material takes sourcing responsibility for that material, I think that's a far more fair and egalitarian way to distribute that responsibility than to charge other buys, hard-working editors with cleaning up every single mess dumped into an article by newbies or one-off editors who have no interest in learning the site's policies. I know that some agree with me on this, and some do not, so the different factions of the community on this point have to agree to disagree. Nightscream (talk) 03:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The experience of the editor is unimportant to me. If they're new, and they're willing to learn how to be a part of the community, the message I leave for them is detailed enough, with copious links, to get them started, so that if they harbor some modicum of commitment, hopefully they'll be inspired to do it correctly. I do not subscribe to the concept of controversy or lackthereof, since that is subjective, and potentially circular. Again, we're going to have to agree to disagree here. Since you yourself re-added the material with a source, it seems mostly a moot point to me. Nightscream (talk) 05:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2011 October newsletter

The 2011 WikiCup is now over, and our new champion is Hurricanehink (submissions), who joins the exclusive club of the previous winners: Dreamafter (2007), jj137 (2008), Durova (2009) and Sturmvogel_66 (2010). The final standings were as follows:

1. Hurricanehink (submissions)
2. Sp33dyphil (submissions)
3. Yellow Evan (submissions)
4. Miyagawa (submissions)
5. Wizardman (submissions)
6. Casliber (submissions)
7. Resolute (submissions)
8. PresN (submissions)

Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.

• The Featured Article Award: Casliber (submissions), for his performance in round 2. Hurricanehink (submissions) matched the score, but Casliber won the tiebreaker.
• The Good Article Award: Yellow Evan (submissions), for his performance in round 4.
• The Featured List Award: Miyagawa (submissions), for his performance in round 4. PresN (submissions) matched the score, but Miyagawa won the tiebreaker.
• The Recognised Topic Award (for good and featured topics): PresN (submissions), for his performance in round 3.
• The Did You Know Award: The Bushranger (submissions), for his performance in round 1.
• The In the News Award: Candlewicke (submissions), for his performance in round 1.
• The Reviewer Award (for good article reviews): Wizardman (submissions), for his performance in round 3.

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Jamie Metzl

Hey just letting you know that Jamie Metzl is up on AfD again, and I know you played a significant role in the previous discussion and the article's recreation, so I thought I'd let you know, since it doesn't seem you'd been otherwise alerted. Regards, --Miskwito (talk) 19:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

2011 WikiCup participation

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Problem with donations

I saw your appeal. Well put. But today I had already asked myself Is user TraceyR going to donate anything? Not a chance. Not a chance. Look at what he said: "It's like a parallel wiki-universe governed by different laws! I think I'll get back where I came from to preserve my sanity."

I have seen too many people complaining now about the junk that floats around in Wikipedia - partly due to quality policy failures and outdated policies. Earlier today, I had to say on the WP:RS Noticeboard that: "... the continued inclusion of low quality material is in the end going to cut back on funding for Wikipedia when people say: We donate all this money and these people post this type of junk..."

I am trying to raise the alarm that low quality articles reduce funding. It would be nice if you pressed that button in a few places too. I had posted about Wiki-reliability on the Village pump but did not get very far. Yet the alarm still needs to be raised, both within the community and within WFM. I do not know people in WMF, but I assume you do, given the appeal, so it would be good if you left a few messages there. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 00:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I wish I had some actual connections at the WMF, let alone ones where I could possibly influence policy. I truly believe in the Wikipedia enterprise, and I do my absolute best to make sure that all statements in all of the thousands of articles I tend to are properly sourced. I try to use only quality sources, and I'm sure that the folks at The New York Times are convinced that I'm trying to hack their archives, but I will occasionally put in a less-than-perfect source, or two, if I'm desperate. While I find that most of the random articles I read are appropriately referenced, all too often I genuinely cringe when I link to an article that is either devoid of sources or is based on low quality references. I do believe that Wikipedia, for the most part, is self-ratcheting, in that people like you and me do really care about adding sources, though I recognize that there will always be islands of crappy articles. I find it humbling that I have been chosen to represent Wikipedia to other editors and to the world at large and I hope that readers view the "low quality material" as work in progress that will be improved sooner rather later, and not see them as being representative of Wikipedia in general. Thanks again for approaching me and count me in as someone who always tries to leave an article (at least) a little bit better each time I touch it, working to an unattainable goal of writing a complete article in a complete encyclopedia. Alansohn (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

No worries, we will keep going. I tried to start Wikiproject Reliability, but so far only 3 people have joined up, so all is not rosy ..... History2007 (talk) 09:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

It's interesting, but the reason I stopped donating to the WMF was because of the insanity over "proper sources." The problem is that, in some cases, sources aren't available online. The idea I've gotten is that offline sources are not considered to be reliable or verifiable. The most idiculous example I can think of is with the article on the game of Battleship (which I don't even have the time or interest to hunt down). It mentions a version on paper, and it mentions the current electronic version, but not the one with pegs and plastic that introduced most of the people I know to the game. It's not in production now, but it did exist. I still have the game. Yet, when I tried to cite the instructions that came with the game, my edits were immediately mercilessly reverted because the information wasn't "verifiable" … in other words, you couldn't Google it and find it. With that kind of attitude, why should I even bother? I'm not interested in "Wiki-Mashup." That's what Wikipedia has become, though, and nobody in WMF or anywhere else is interested in hearing that. So, sorry, no donations. --Joe Sewell (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

The banner

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Hey, you're a star! (And still the Chief Wikipedian of New Jersey!) Neutron (talk) 23:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Princetons discussion

Just wanted to mention as a WPNJ participant, you might want to discuss the situation with the now-near confirmed Princeton merge. (Discussion is being held at Talk:Borough of Princeton, New Jersey at the WPNJ talk page). Mitch32^{(Never support those who think in the box)} 03:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Washington Township, Morris County, New Jersey and 24th / 25th District

Thanks for the correction. I fixed the missing lead-in to the template. algocu (talk) 13:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for all your help on NJ-related pages. It is greatly appreciated! Tinton5 (talk) 17:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

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CongLinks

Because you commented at Template talk:CongLinks in the past, I'd like to invite you to comment on a proposed addition to the template at Template talk:CongLinks#New Congresspedia.us tag. --Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 19:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

re personal appeal for funds

Dear sir, respectfully, while I have contributed in my area of expertise in the past (DNA sequencing and other biotech science areas) I no longer do so for two reasons, one major and one minor. The major one has to do with copyright: AFAIK, a for profit can resell my work. I find this completly unacceptable. I understand that diff people have diff views; that is mine. The minor one is the pain of having to re re re correct errors on technical subjects; it is just not worth my time to re re edit things over and over again. SincerelyCinnamon colbert (talk) 00:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Article on New Jersey Activist (Gary R. Englert) Redux III

Alansohn,

It's been a number of months since we first spoke about this and at least two since you promised to review the information on hand and update me.

Understanding we all have lives and more pressing concerns, is this something you are in a position to pursue or not?

Your advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 17:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC))

• I am still interested and still looking at this, but work obligations and forthcoming family plans have forced me to cut down my creation time for new articles. Please accept my apologies and feel free to nudge me, but I'm not sure that I will be able to find the time I need to devote to create an appropriately sourced article. Alansohn (talk) 17:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Alansohn,

As with all the rest of us, the things we do for ourselves and our own enjoyment always come last!

I'll give you another month and touch base if we haven't spoken in that time.

Thanks!

(Mooney1084v (talk) 18:11, 30 November 2011 (UTC))

Evil Clown Restoration

I saw your note about the repainting of the Evil clown of Middleton. I stopped by today (December 3, 2011) and the clown still says "save", no balloon as you describe. I took the photo in the article a few years ago and I took others today (not posted) and they look very similar. I am curious about this discrepancy. Thanks. --Lbeaumont (talk) 18:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Gustave May

Hi Alansohn, I was wondering if you could give me a hand with finding a date of death for Gustave May, who I believe lived in Bergen County in New Jersey after moving back to the US from Canada. Been searching this for quite a while to no avail. User:Wehwalt is willing to do some research down in NJ for me, but I was wondering if you could check your sources also. Thanks, – Connormah (talk) 19:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I will use my sources and hopefully I can find something. Alansohn (talk) 22:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. – Connormah (talk) 22:30, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

In case you haven't seen, User:Cbl62 has added some census/draft card info that may help. CMAH (Connormah's Sock) 16:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CMAH (talk • contribs)

municipality consolidation

Hey...what would your opinion be about consolidating various NJ Towns together, like recently the Princeton merge? I started a discussion here: Talk:Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Tinton5 (talk) 18:42, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

New Jersey 2010 census data

Hey Alan, I noticed you are working your way through the municipalities and adding 2010 census data. Thanks for this. Are you using anything to automate it? Cheers. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, I'm doing all of these changes manually, loading the data from the Census 2010 into a template one municipality at a time. I'm still trying to wade my through the Census Bureau's new user interface, which I find to be much less intuitive than the old version used for Census 2000 data. I'm getting into a groove in doing this by hand, but I hope to find a way to download the data and build the text from the data rather than retype it by hand. Alansohn (talk) 22:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I can help? I've just downloaded and extracted some of the data into this spreadsheet here: [5]. This is from the following tables:

1. GCT-P7 — Selected Age Groups: 2010 - State -- Place ; 2010 Census Summary File 1
2. GCT-PL1 — Race and Hispanic or Latino: 2010 - State -- Place ; 2010 Census Redistricting Data (Public Law 94-171) Summary File
3. GCT-PL2 — Population and Housing Occupancy Status: 2010 - State -- Place ; 2010 Census Redistricting Data (Public Law 94-171) Summary File
4. GCT-PH1 — Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density: 2010 - State -- Place ; 2010 Census Summary File 1

I would suggest that we use this data to populate a template. We can develop the template and then I can easily generate the data from the spreadsheet to populate the template like {{censusdemographics|year=2010|totalpop=12345|onerace=10000|whites=8000|etc..}} What do you think? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:47, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Wow! I've been looking at Census 2010 for several weeks now and I can't figure out how you downloaded the data, but that's exactly the approach that I always had thought should be taken. My biggest quibble about the data is that the Census Bureau has some sort of blind spot for townships (such as Lyndhurst and Teaneck), which don't appear in your data. Percentages for racial information can be calculated easily enough. Creating a template that would take the spreadsheet data and build the text is a no-brainer now that the data is here. I'd be curious to see if some of the other data that had been included in 2000 is available, especially household / family / per capita income and poverty levels and I'd love to understand how you pulled the data. I would also hope that we could pull down the FIPS coding for each municipality / CDP so that we could also build the reference. Unbelievable work on your part! Alansohn (talk) 16:05, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah yes, I missed the township data. I think they have that under "county subdivision" tables. Also I think I missed the "family" data. Here is how I got the data:

1. Go to the main factfinder page: [6]
2. Click "geographies" on the left.
3. Close the "select geographies" popup/overlay that comes up.
4. On the "search within results" bar on the left, enter "2010" and click go
5. On the "search within results" bar on the left, enter "state" and click go
6. On the "search within results" bar on the left, enter "place" and click go
7. At this point you should be seeing a list of 25 of 96 results. Look through the tables you are interested in, and select them with the checkbox. (Example: half way down the first page, I see "GCT-H2 | General Housing Characteristics: 2010 - State -- Place and (in selected states) County Subdivision")
8. Click the "View" button on the bottom.
9. Under the "Geography" dropdown, select "New Jersey" -- you should now see NJ results for this table
10. To download the table, use the "Download" link at the top of the page. Select Excel format (.xls).
11. At the top of the page, click the left and right arrows next to "Result 1 of N" to see the other tables you selected. Repeat steps 9 and 10 for each table.
12. Open all the tables in Excel or LibreOffice or something. Copy/paste into a new spreadhseet, being careful about vertical alignment (the number of header rows will differ for each table). Check to see that the number of rows match up correctly at the bottom of the table.

Damn, that is far too complicated. Some contractor must have made out well in this deal. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 16:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

The interface is ridiculously complicated, but now I understand the process. They certainly don't make it easy.I need to find other tables that have the data I'm looking for, but once they're downloaded and the pieces are aligned in a single spreadsheet, the task of taking the pieces and plugging them into a template is quite simple and we can just bang them out one after the other. You have no idea how much I appreciate your insight into this issue. Alansohn (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy to help! But the real kicker is that once the data is in a single spreadsheet, we can save it as .csv and I can write a quick shell script or perl script to produce the template wiki markup line (the {{censusdemographics or whatever) and we just have to copy/paste the output into each article. That will be a real time saver. This is how I produced the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Census 2010. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

There's a dozen ways to skin the cat, once we have all the data we need. You can build a template like the censusdemographics you suggested above, plugging in the columns from the spreadsheet by building a substring. You can take the full text from a sample municipality for 2000 and just build the full text by plugging in numbers. Or using a script/perl from a .csv file. I tried to map all of the 2000 data included in the standard load done by Rambot in 2002 to see if all the fields are there. looking through the four paragraphs, I see that GCT-PH1 and GCT-PL1 have almost all of what we need for paragraph 1 (people / households / families / density / racial / Hispanic), except for family info. Paragraph 2 (household types) is covered by GCT-P4. Paragraph 3 (population ranges and sex ratios) is almost a mirror image of GCT-P5. It's paragraph 4, with income and poverty data that I can't seem to pin down. We are so on the right track now and I can't believe that this can happen so quickly! Alansohn (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I think this is GCT-P14, which I only see for 2000. I think this may have been replaced by American Community Survey. Remember, there was no "long form" for 2010. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:03, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I saw the latest version of your spreadsheet. I would double check the fields against the data for 2000 from the municipality of your choice, but I think that we're 99% of the way there. Basically, if you just took the data in each row and strung it together with the name of a template (censusdemographics would be fine) and just strung the data together separated by a "|", I could create the template and just plug it in. Not all of the fields would be used, but we'd save the time of naming each field. Quick and dirty, but it'll get the job done. All of the data for paragraphs 1 and 2 is there, except for number of families (which we should be able to find). GCT-P5 would add the population ranges and sex ratios from paragraph 3. If we could find a source for number of families and add GCT-P5 to the table, I think we can generate the template quite quickly. Thanks again for all your efforts! Alansohn (talk) 20:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I've uploaded a new version with I think all the tables we are looking for. [7] --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! I must stop using exclamation points! But I'm too happy with this spreadsheet! Can you add a column that builds a call to a template (let's call it subst:censusdemographics) and just string each column in from the spreadsheet separated by a pipe! Your suggestion to turn the spreadsheet into a .csv file would solve this if you just changed all commas into pipes. This can all be completed very quickly of we do that! Thanks again for coming up with this approach! Alansohn (talk) 21:26, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

The one other thing I'd suggest is to separate the name of the place so that there are separate columns for name of place, type and county. So for Alpine we should have three columns (Alpine / borough / Bergen), for Neptune City it would be (Neptune City, borough, Monmouth) and for Zarephath we'd have (Zarephath / CDP / Somerset). We should be able to cut that from a list elsewhere. These fields would allow sorting and plugging the name of the municipality and type, which is part of the generic text. Alansohn (talk) 21:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Census 2010/Demographics --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:43, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't able to pull the County data. BTW, I'd rather not subst this, it would make future changes harder than they need to be. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about the details. That can be plugged in. I see the file Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Census 2010/Demographics, which looks almost perfect, but has stray double-quote marks. Any reason for that? Alansohn (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I missed that. The values like "1,234.5" were getting split up like this: |"1|234.5"|. Fixed now. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 22:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Census 2010 template and test

Take a look at Template:USCensusDemographics and User:Alansohn/Absecon, New Jersey. There's some debugging stuff in there now to help me pick up the fields by number, but I think I'm pretty darn close. Check out the details against your spreadsheet to make sure that I'm substituting the right fields. Thanks again for making this happen! Alansohn (talk) 23:06, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks good, nice work! I verified the fields used matched up with the spreadsheet. I made one tweak in the units labeling for housing unit density. The reference doesn't seem to be populated, how do you want to handle that? I would think including the reference in the template would be easiest. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 03:30, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I will play with it. Check out Hasbrouck Heights, New Jersey and Haworth, New Jersey where the template has been used as is. The template can use refinement, but the fields seem to match up and are formatted correctly. Thanks for all of your work to get the data downloaded and formatted into a template. Alansohn (talk) 05:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks for your work in building the template. I was updating River Vale, and noticed that there was also the paragraph in the Geography section which is based on census data. For River Vale, the area as published changed between 2000 and 2010. Rather than manually create/update this as well, I created {{USCensusGeography}}, with the same parameters. This may be overkill, but since we have the data, it was easy to do. Do you think this is worthwhile? --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I used the USCensusGeography at the Margate City, New Jersey article, with the "subst:" parameter. It's a no-brainer, because we have the data already and in many cases it's different from the 2000 area information due to constant adjustments in boundaries. I do suggest editing it to use a different source though to match the source with area data. Other than that, it's a great advance and you deserve tremendous credit for pushing this forward. Alansohn (talk) 18:50, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey Alan, thanks for the kind words and the barnstar. Much appreciated. I hope you are enjoying the holidays. Regarding townships in census data, I think due to many states calling unincorporated territory "townships", the census treats them different than populated places. To somewhat rectify this, there were co-terminus CDPs for each NJ township in 2000, but they removed the CDPs in 2010. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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This template is now out of date due to the death of Assemblyman Peter J. Biondi. His death (on Nov. 10, two days after he was re-elected to another two-year term, but from a somewhat different group of towns due to redistricting) is reported in the article about him, but he is still in the template in the present tense. Since you created these templates, I figured I would leave it to you how to word the revision. It is going to have to be changed anyway after next week (when the new Legislature convenes) because Denise Coyle did not run for re-election (due to the redistricting), and I believe Biondi's seat will not be filled until late January. But it seemed kind of odd to read that the district is represented by Biondi, when he has gone to the great legislature in the sky. Neutron (talk) 18:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

You are 1,000% correct. I had made updates to other articles to reflect Biondi's death, but not to this one. Anticipating the whole process of reflecting changes in districts and legislators is a rather daunting one that needs to take place over the next several days. Thanks for the heads up. Alansohn (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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City of Camden neighborhoods

Hello, would you happen to know how to get 2010 Census data for the following neighborhoods in Camden, NJ:

I have recently created this template and still red links to be turned blue. I also do not know what image to implement inside it, if it needs one at all, such as the Jersey City one. Thank you and have a good one.

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Alansohn,

Have you made any progress on this or is your plate simply too full?

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Article about Ashkenazi intelligence

Hi, Alansohn

You wrote a very good scientific article regarding this issue. Unfortunately most of your contribution was removed from the current article which is now understandable, focused only on one particular study and without too much meaning. I would kindly ask you to give me permission to use material from your site to edit this article, or if you have time to edit it by yourself.

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 22:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi. What details regarding the school purchase did you add to the article? I don't see where you did this. Where are these? Nightscream (talk) 03:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I corrected the title of the NJSDA and added a link, added the full name of the school being purchased and the full title of the Newark Archdiocese. Alansohn (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

District 33

That Stack represents District 33 is already mentioned in the article. The section you keep adding isn't about him, doesn't mention him, and its heading clearly indicates this. In fact, the opening sentence of your section isn't even about the District! It's about all of the forty districts in the NJ Legislature, and how they have a rep in the Senate and two in the General Assembly. Simply put, this is a tangent, and it isn't even one that's attached to the passage that already mentions the District in relevant relation to him. There is no such "policy" or "consensus" on adding such irrelevant material to an article on a person like Stack. If there is, then please point it out to me. You're trying to once again shoehorn material that has a limited relationship to an article subject, and then going off into a digression to the extent that you're no longer talking about that subject. There already is an article that lists those districts, which is linked to. I think that's enough. Nightscream (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

You're free to discuss changes that are standard in every article for every individual in the New Jersey Senate and New Jersey General Assembly. While I appreciate your pride of ownership in the article for Brian P. Stack, the material is directly relevant. If you have alternate wording for all the articles for all legislators, why not raise it and discuss it, rather than blindly revert what multiple editors have tried to reinsert into the article, as is convention. Alansohn (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello Alansohn: thank you for your kind comments about the posting I have been doing on the "Jay Jason" page. I have learned a lot from the editors, and you are right that with my dad's death in 2001, before the internet age, much of what is available is not on the internet. I have tried to put in more sources from newspapers and magazines at the beginning, middle and end of his very long career in show business. I tried to post a few of these articles to give the editors a chance to see what people said about Jay during his career, and one of these articles is available at: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0Bz4gyjhP7mm3ZGVlOTYxYjEtYzJlMC00ODkxLWE4YjEtZThlNTVhYmZhZmEy&hl=en_US I was wondering if you might have any other suggestions for me to be able to deal with the issue of his notoriety. I have added a few other sources as well to the wiki article. --Jaytribute516 19:21, 30 January 2012 (UTC)Leonard Jason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaytribute516 (talk • contribs)

WikiCup 2012 January newsletter

WikiCup 2012 is off to a flying start. At the time of writing, we have 112 contestants; comparable to last year, but slightly fewer than 2010. Signups will remain open for another week, after which time they will be closed for this year. Our currrent far-away leader is Grapple X (submissions), due mostly to his work on a slew of good articles about The X-Files; there remain many such articles waiting to be reviewed at good article candidates. Second place is currently held by Ruby2010 (submissions), whose points come mostly from good articles about television episodes, although good article reviews, did you knows and an article about a baroness round out the score. In third place is Jivesh boodhun (submissions), who has scored 200 points for his work on a single featured article, as well as points for work on others, mostly in the area of pop music. In all, nine users have 100 or more points. However, at the other end of the scale, there are still dozens of participants who are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly!

The 64 highest scoring participants will advance to round 2 in a month's time. There, they will be split into eight random groups of eight. The score needed to reach the next round is not at all clear; last year, 8 points guaranteed a place. The year before, 20.

A few participants and their work warrant a mention for achieving "firsts" in this competition.

• 12george1 (submissions) was the first to score, with his good article review of Illinois v. McArthur.
• 12george1 (submissions) was also the first to score points for an article, thanks to his work on Hurricane Debby (1982)- now a good article. Tropical storms have featured heavily in the Cup, and good articles currently have a relatively fast turnaround time for reviews.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) was the first to score points for a did you know, with Russian submarine K-114 Tula. Military history is another subject which has seen a lot of Cup activity.
• Sp33dyphil (submissions) is also the first person to successfully claim bonus points. Terminator 2: Judgment Day is now a good article, and was eligible for bonus points because the subject was covered on more than 20 other Wikipedias at the start of the competition. It is fantastic to see bonus points being claimed so early!
• Speciate (submissions) was the first to score points for an In the News entry, with Paedophryne amauensis. The lead image from the article was also used on the main page for a time, and it's certainly eye-catching!
• Jivesh boodhun (submissions) was the first to score points for a featured article, and is, at the moment, the only competitor to claim for one. The article, "Halo" (Beyoncé Knowles song), was also worth double points because of its wide coverage. While this is an article that Jivesh and others have worked on for some time, it is undeniable that he has put considerable work into it this year, pushing it over the edge.

We are yet to see any featured lists, featured topics or good topics, but this is unsurprising; firstly, the nomination processes with each of these can take some time, and, secondly, it can take a considerable amount of time to work content to this level. In a similar vein, we have seen only one featured article. The requirement that content must have been worked on this year to be eligible means that we did not expect to see these at the start of the competition. No points have been claimed for featured portals or pictures, but these are not content types which are often claimed; the former has never made a big impact on the WikiCup, while the latter has not done so since 2009's competition.

A quick rules clarification before the regular notices: If you are concerned that another user is claiming points inappropriately, please contact a judge to take a look at the article. Competitors policing one another can create a bad atmosphere, and may lead to inconsistencies and mistakes. Rest assured that we, the judges, are making an effort to check submissions, but it is possible that we will miss something. On a loosely related note: If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Requested articles

Hello. Would you be interested in contributing to this Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Requested articles? Tinton5 (talk) 20:20, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I will try to go through the articles and see if I can create any. Are some of these places CDPs for which content exists for population and area from the Census Bureau? Alansohn (talk) 23:42, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

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Union City Census Info

Alan, why do you feel that the Union City article should contain both info from the most recent Census and the one before that? Isn't containing the most recent one enough? Can't we summarize the section by including from the 2000 Census only material regarding demographics that are not given by the 2010 info?

Also, there is now material in the 2000 section that does not pertain to the 2000 Census. For example, that large paragraph that begins "In the early days of the post-Revolution era...", and the last two sentences in that section. Please advise. Nightscream (talk) 23:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I do think that it is helpful to have 2000 Census data in terms of comparisons to the latest 2010 data. The issue that I had with Union City is that so much text had been intermingled with the other data. I will take another look. Alansohn (talk) 23:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the material in the 2000 Census section that does not pertain to the 2000 section, do you have an idea of when you'll be able to take a look at it?

Also, I have a suggestion on how to address the comparison issue: Why not place the 2000 figures in "up from" parentheticals like this, complete with the citations, something like this:

As of the 2010 United States Census, there were 66,455 people, (up from 67,088 in 2000).

This way, the data from the most recent Census becomes the primary reference point. And for 2000 info that does not have an updated corresponding 2010 figure, we can put that at the beginning of the section, for chronological order's sake. What do you think? Nightscream (talk) 20:29, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I more than appreciate your frustration with the way that the data is presented for the 2010 Census and the 2000 Census and I am conflicted . The way the data has been downloaded, it would be quite challenging to mix the data from the two censuses. There is a part of me that argues that the presence of data for both censuses would allow comparisons between the two, and there is a part of me that also would hate to lose the 2000 Census data that was the starting point for almost every Wikipedia article about a place in the United States when User:Rambot was set loose in 2002. I think that some comparisons in population (and other demographic change) would be useful. Another idea would be to default to hide the 2000 data so that it doesn't confuse potential readers, but can be displayed in full with a click. Does any of this help? What are your thoughts? Alansohn (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Article on New Jersey Activist (Gary R. Englert) Redux V

Alansohn,

Have you made any progress on this or is your plate simply too full?

Your advice would be appreciated.

(Mooney1084v (talk) 19:39, 6 February 2012 (UTC))

New York City's featured article status

Hi, if I remember correctly, you contributed a Herculean effort to the successful collaboration a couple of years ago that made New York City a Featured Article. Someone at Talk:New York City is interested in returning the article to Featured Status or at least Good Article status, and we were wondering what and how many editors it would realistically need to make a serious stab at doing that today. I'm not canvassing you to weigh in for or against trying (nor am I recruiting you for another effort unless you're so inclined) so much as I'm asking for an estimate of what it took to get FA status in the first place, and what it might need now (since FA Criteria have been raised). Thanks for any information, tips, war stories or advice you could offer. —— Shakescene (talk) 07:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the article in detail in a while, and I don't look at this as canvassing. I'd like to go through the article and see what changes would be necessary to bring it up to FA status, which I assume will take a decent amount of updating and sourcing. Alansohn (talk) 12:54, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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GOCE March copy edit drive

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WikiCup 2012 February newsletter

Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was Grapple X (submissions), again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was Tigerboy1966 (submissions), thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were Ruby2010 (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions), Miyagawa (submissions) and Casliber (submissions). February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from Ruby2010 (submissions). At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

The remaining contestants have been split into 8 pools of 8, named A through H. Round two will finish in two months time on 28 April, when the two highest scorers in each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers, will progress to round 3. The pools were entirely random, so while some pools may end up being more competitive than others, this is by chance rather than design.

The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 23:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage engagement strategy released

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GOCE March drive newsletter

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African American Soccer players

I noticed that you are the one who seperated this category out, at least in the case of Marshall Leonard, although it had been previously agreed at CfD to merge all the sub-categories into the general Category:African American sportspeople. I was wondering what your justification for going against the ruling at CfD in this case was.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

In the case of Leonard Marshall, the edit in question was made in December 2008 to change the category. Both the parent Category:African-American sportspeople and the subcategory Category:African American soccer players exist, so I'm not sure why you would have removed the subcat at this edit or why you would not have used the parent category, if that were the CFD consensus. I haven't been involved with the CFD or any of these categories in years. What is the issue here? Alansohn (talk) 03:51, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Alansohn, thank you for taking the time to restore the categories that Johnpacklambert removed. ~ Fopam (talk) 21:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Changes to Darya Domracheva

My last change removed content and did not work as intended so I restored the earlier version. You are unbelievably fast, You acted seconds after my change, and seconds before I undid my last change. But I don't understand why you restored the article to a very old version. I am not a beginner, I just didn't notice I wasn't logged in. I have been working on this article earlier. Username Roger491127 87.249.177.148 (talk) 22:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the changes, but the edit revert tool that I use makes the assumption that all of the edits from the same user are bad if one is deemed to be in question. I'm sorry if this caused any problems and please let me know if I can help in any way in addressing the error. Alansohn (talk) 23:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I understand. But it seems reckless to undo a whole bunch of edits without checking if they are good and well referenced, as my changes are. I will now continue to work on the article. 87.249.177.148 (talk) 23:16, 19 March 2012 (UTC)