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:You're already an editor - a [[WP:WIKIPEDIAN|wikipedian]] - because you have made 5 edits already. There are no rules or retirements; anyone can edit. Let me know if you have any questions, and feel free to talk to us live, with [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help this] or [http://toolserver.org/~bjelleklang/pjirc/ this]. <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 23:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're already an editor - a [[WP:WIKIPEDIAN|wikipedian]] - because you have made 5 edits already. There are no rules or retirements; anyone can edit. Let me know if you have any questions, and feel free to talk to us live, with [http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help this] or [http://toolserver.org/~bjelleklang/pjirc/ this]. <small><span style="border: 1px solid; background-color:darkblue;">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background-color:darkblue; color:#FFFFFF"> &nbsp;Chzz&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B; background-color:yellow; border: 0px solid; ">&nbsp;►&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 23:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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List of Transformers: Armada episodes

(moved earlier parts of this into User_talk:Chzz/Archive_13  Chzz  ►  21:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

A few things that you could do;

  • In List of Transformers: Armada episodes#Season 1 - when I added the 'see main' thing, I wrote a single sentence as an example - The first season began with a 3-part series, "First Encounter", "Metamorphosis" and "Base".. There should actually be a couple of paragraphs that summarize the whole sub-article. That is the idea of 'summary style' - the sub-article contains all the detail, but the main article should say 'see main article', but also needs a summary.
For an example of this, see World War II and the links from it - because it is split into many articles. The points is, the "Main article: List of Transformers: Armada episodes season 1" should be followed by 2 or 3 paragraphs summarizing the season.
  • Next, to make the new sub-article more encyclopaedic, you could add facts about the article - perhaps at the top, before the plot detail. For example, when did it first air, on what network? Are there viewing figures, did it win any awards, what did critics think of it, who were the voice-actors - that sort of thing. Of course, this information should be referenced to reliable sources, such as newspaper articles.
  • It would probably be good to make the descriptions of each episode a little shorter, and put them into a table format.
I guess you mean the figures in the 'diff' part, in {{Copied|from=List of Transformers: Armada episodes|to=List of Transformers: Armada episodes season 1|diff=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Transformers:_Armada_episodes&diff=308123846&oldid=308120529}}? I got that by going into the history of the page, and finding the edit where I chopped out the information, clicking on 'diff', and then I copied that URL. See WP:DIFF.  Chzz  ►  20:36, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean, "can I see your edits/user pages"? The answer to that is, yes. Anyone can see any page on Wikipedia.  Chzz  ►  18:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite organized lobbying

I found [32] interesting. Not quite lobbying, but clearly aimed at getting people to express an opinion. Currently deleted due to the Nazi elements.—Kww(talk) 16:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help!

I was able to make a page on the User: Coffeebean21/test (by clicking on the one you listed -thanks!). I guess my problem was not knowing where to put the /subpage. I do have a dilemna...I was "asked" to post this and I work there - definitely a COI, I know. But in looking at a few other companies that have entries on Wikipedia, I saw at least one other that was posted by an employee of that company. In reviewing the discussion page on that one, I've attempted to use only the info from the references listed - nothing from our website and nothing original in an attempt to keep it as neutral as possible and non-marketing.

What's my next step? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coffeebean21 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ref. User:Coffeebean21/test
Firstly, I've just edited the article, making it more 'wiki format', and also to hopefully show you how to do some things. The first bit of an article is called a lede, and does not need a heading; it should start with the name of the article in '''bold. The other sections should have ==headings==. I added a wikilink to 'Redmond', and I fixed the referenced external links. Please have a good look at the codes I used.
Secondly, you will need better references. "Business Week" looks like a primary source - ie a listing, submitted by the company, not an independent article. The Intura link does not work, but I expect that is also a primary source. Manta and Naad are both just listings, and the Government census makes no mention of the company. If you intend to make the article, you'll need good sources, as I explained previously. If you can't find any, then we can't have an article (or, if you do make it, it will be deleted). Sorry about that.
Re. other articles, please see WP:OTHERSTUFF - ie yes, we know that there are lots of rubbish articles on Wikipedia; we're working hard to fix 'em, please help - but that doesn't excuse adding more. I'd really suggest that you work on other articles.  Chzz  ►  10:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

could you please help me...

write an article when you get back from that wonderful conference in argentina that i will be missing): (that is a sad face...for me)...here is a happy face for you:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiejojesus (talk • contribs) 21:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea what this is about; I don't know anything about a conference in Argentina, and I'm definitely the wrong person to ask about any religious articles, as I'm a staunch believer in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  Chzz  ►  21:47, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a question

But could I ask if you are not busy at this moment. If not, could you help me with an article. You just have to review it(not as in GAN reveiw, but just to find the things I need to work on), because I have no idea how to. It's an article I'm trying to get to GA or (with a 1/1000000000000000000000 percent chance of this happening) FA. If you are busy, then this message will self-destruct in 5...4...3...2...1...Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 20:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I see that you are not on at the moment, sorry to bother you.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 21:24, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're probably best asking on WP:FEED, or seeking a peer review.  Chzz  ►  21:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation

Hi Chzz. Would you mind giving some context to this contrib on the talk page, perhaps it would helpful if you quote the sentence from Dawkins. Regards, cygnis insignis 07:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a convenience link to the source text. If a further reference or clarification is required, please tag it as such and/or comment on the talk page.  Chzz  ►  10:02, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright

yes, I know how to sign my posts as evidenced by how I am signing this one. however I don't do that on my own talk page.
not wanting to be too lengthy, but I am thoroughly discouraged by Wikipedia overall. I have been a user for a period of time amounting to more than three or four years. the problem I describe to you only started last year though. I am the user Yadontmind. I have no faith in the admin noticeboard; it has already completely let me down. by dint of the fact that I got involved in two articles my sojourn in Wikiland has been disrupted and I am aware that many other users have given up and left for good.
here is the problem. by the way both articles that I am mentioning are among the most controversial of all time on Wikipedia as evidenced by how many disruptions they caused. I have run into some especially worrisome nuisances on an article currently titled 2008 Beijing Drum Tower stabbings. to no avail it seems I am attempting to thwart "complete takeovers". I am one person; I can't stop three to eleven, even 20 well fortified and indefagitable users with a couple of admins as their cohorts.
if you or other administrators wish to talk to me on AIM or Skype, we could fix some of this. I just finished reading something that highlighted how Wikipedia is possibly close to becoming a hasbeen. I don't want to see that happen. Blastingoff (talk) 12:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello.
If you do not sign your posts each time, then you can expect to get further messages asking you how to sign - it becomes difficult to follow 'who said what', even on your own talk page, if messages are not signed.
I'm not sure why you are using multiple accounts, but please check the policy on that, WP:MULTIPLE.
With the problem that you have described, all I can suggest is that you discuss the edits on the respective talk page of the article(s); if you feel that more people should get involved, ask for just that, perhaps on associated talk pages.  Chzz  ►  12:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I know the multiple account policy. I am also aware that there is a built in mistrust of using them. that doesn't change the necessity for them at times.
I am asking for you to get personally involved. yes, I know you could be under fire as well, but I don't think you have to worry about repercussions like the ones I encounter. I don't think you realize, Chzz, I have been trying to build support for over a year. I need you and others to take some of that weight from me. let's talk about how to best do that. are you an admin? do you talk on instant messaging? I don't have IRC but I do have the messenger clients I mentioned. Blastingoff (talk) 12:52, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an admin. I don't use instant messaging. Any discussion about the article should go on the article talk page.  Chzz  ►  21:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed from the expert (or should it be Expert?)

Hi Chzz. I am currently proofreading articles on Thailand and related fields. As I read over there articles, I find great inconsistencies in capitalization (why do I even care? lol). Two nouns often capitalized standing alone are king and constitution. For instance, The King of Thailand is a great (King or king,) or the Constitution of 1948 is the current (Constitution or constitution.) Articles on the constitutions of other countries have the same inconsistencies. I don't want other editors to quarrel with my edits, so please give me your judgment before I attempt this far-reaching cleanup. Thank you and all the best. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 21:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"King of Thailand" or "King Bhumibol Adulyadej" should always have a capital K, as it is a titular phrase.
The noun "king" should not be in capitals elsewhere.
This means that you would put "Bhumibol Adulyadej is the King of Thailand", or "Bhumibol Adulyadej is the Thai king".
Well, that's my opinion. Unfortunately, I just checked a couple of our featured articles - Elizabeth I of England and George I of Great Britain - and both of those have mixed usage; however, MOS:CAPS#Titles_of_people seems to agree with me.
Good luck with it,  Chzz  ►  22:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit to "Service a la Russe"

Thank you so much for your reply. I think Wikipedia is a tremendous reference source and I was very disappointed not to receive a reply to my quetion the first time. I have donated money to WK and while I don't think that entitles me to anything, it increased my disappointment. It also seems I read somewhere that once I have an edit accepted by WK, I am considered an "editor". Is that accurate? Looking forward to trying my edit!

Thanks again!

Wanda Devereaux (Wandev (talk) 22:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

You're already an editor - a wikipedian - because you have made 5 edits already. There are no rules or retirements; anyone can edit. Let me know if you have any questions, and feel free to talk to us live, with this or this.  Chzz  ►  23:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dePRODing of articles

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