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August 26

editing your page for apartments

hi, i am trying to edit a web page posted on your list of apartments "Alder Ridge Apartments" and I need some help as to where and what i do to edit, as it needs to be updated asap —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.138.190 (talk • contribs)

Just click the "edit this page" at the top of the page. See Wikipedia:How to edit a page and Wikipedia:Tutorial for more information. --Silver Edge 00:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia and we don't appear to have any information about Alder Ridge Apartments. If you saw it at another website, for example http://daviswiki.org/Alder_Ridge_Apartments, then the advice here doesn't apply. PrimeHunter 02:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Can someone aaprove or re-edit this article about me which I wrote. My play GODOT ARRIVES is an entry, but I'm not!

Daniel Curzon is the author of Something You Do in the Dark, the first gay protest novel (G.P. Putnam, 1971). It is the story of a gay man's attempt to avenge his entrapment by a Detroit vice squad police officer by murdering him. The book shows a shift away from the self-hating homosexual who is considered to be so horrible by society than anything done to him is justified, to a newer, angrier attitude of justifiable rage at society and its cruelties to gays. Daniel Curzon has also written other novels, including The Misadventures of Tim McPick (original title: Queer Comedy), From Violent Men,

Among the Carnivores, The World Can Break Your Heart, Curzon in Love, 

The Bubble Reputation, or Shakespeare Lives!, and What a Tangled Web. Non-fiction books include The Big Book of In-Your-Face Gay Etiquette and Dropping Names: The Delicious Memoirs of Daniel Curzon.

In the theater, Curzon won the 1999 National New Play Contest for Godot Arrives, and has won many other play contests, such as the Great Platte River Play Contest. His play My Unknown Son was produced off-Broadway at the Circle Rep Lab in 1987 and at the Kaufmann Theatre in 1988, as well as in Los Angeles in 1997. Seven volumes of his Collected Plays have been published by BookSurge (an offshoot of Amazon.com Baker's Plays published his one-act A Fool's Audition. Daniel Curzon is the pen name of Daniel R. Brown, Ph.D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielcurzon (talk • contribs) 01:13, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

You don't need help to create a new article. You can do it yourself by going to the article name and creating the page. Please do ensure that you meet our inclusion guideline for people, WP:BIO. Thanks!--Chaser - T 01:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Chaser's comment is valid. However, some people might prefer that a more knowledgeable Wikipedian create the article. Also, since WP:COI suggests that it is improper to create an article about oneself, it is more appropriate to have someone else do it. I have created the Daniel Curzon article. --Richard 06:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiAdvertisments

Referring to this part of a message on my talk page: "...how can I get WikiAdvertisments?" I'm really not sure. Does anyone know what they are? I've searched, and haven't found anything... the whole Advertisments thing surprised me, because Wikipedia is against advertising. Hm. Puzzled. Thanks in advance for any answers you may have... CattleGirl ^talk 01:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you are thinking of Template:Wikipedia ads, used to advertise on-wiki projects and efforts, not to make money or advertise a company (those are the ads we are against) Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 01:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, right. Thanks :) CattleGirl ^talk 01:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 15:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

BABYDOLL GOWN

i'M NEW TO THIS SITE AND i WAS WONDERING IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO PURCHASE ANY OF THE LINGERIE YOU HAVE POSTED. THERE IS A VERY LOVELY BABYDOLL GOWN THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE, IF I CAN'T PURCHASE IT THEN IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND OUT WHERE IT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER. THANKS AGAIN.

BINKS827 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Binks827 (talk • contribs) 02:15, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for asking Binks.

Wikipedia tends to be an encyclopedia and not so much a place to sell things or help people find particular items for sale. Sethie 02:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Right. We describe many things and have images of some of them but we don't sell them. If you refer to the images at Babydoll then clicking them shows that the images were made by the editors who uploaded them. If you are really interested then I suppose you could try following the editor links and ask on their discussion page if they know the brand and where it might be for sale. PrimeHunter 02:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is intended for reference, not so much for advertisement. If you do not mind, may I suggest that your question be capitalized only where it is a must. Typing a question in Caps Lock constitutes yelling. Thanks for your co-operation. --Mayfare 03:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Cryptographic Hash String

Hello. When I make my hash string for my user page, how do I know whether other Wikipedians have the same secret message as I? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 02:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:User committed identity suggests to make use of your committed identity to someone and prove you are the same person who originally controlled the account, give a trusted user the exact secret string you originally entered into the box. -- Jreferee 06:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How many Wikis' are ther beyond the list of sister projects and is there an overall main home page???

Questions in the subbject/headline.

tofuta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.65.189 (talk) 03:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia has the nine sister projects listed on the Main Page, all in multiple languages. The foundation-level coordination of these wikis is discussed on the meta-wiki. There are hundreds of wikis not sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation; see WP:ALTOUT for examples. Shalom ^Hello 03:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

http://wikiindex.org lists many wikis but I'm sure nobody lists all existing wikis. Anybody can create a wiki without registering it anywhere. PrimeHunter 03:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Further to Shalom, the full list of Wikimedia projects in all languages is listed at meta:Complete list of Wikimedia projects. --h2g2bob (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

What's the "Portion used" mean

Questions in the "Non-free / fair use media rationale" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sum 2101 (talk • contribs) 03:34, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

The portion used is how much of the original file you used. If you cropped the image, or if you are using a small portion of an audio file, then mention it there. --h2g2bob (talk) 04:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Good day

I consider Wikipedia as a major reference in all my researches and seminars,for that I am interested in joining in with you to contribute what ever I could do to enhance the knowledge of the content of your encyclopedia. I am from the middle east particularly from Iraq so whatever you want where I could do somthing please don't hesitate for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salwansam (talk • contribs) 05:32, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Welcome! It is great to have you on board. You might be interested in contacting the editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Iraq for some ideas on where you can contribute. There also is Wikipedia:WikiProject Arab world. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:30, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

If being from Iraq implies that you speak Arabic, you might also see the Arabic Wikipedia. You might, for example, translate articles between the (much larger) English Wikipedia and the Arabic Wikipedia, and add Interlanguage links. For more on translation, see the "Translation:" heading in the Editor's index just below this anchor point:

• WP:EITW#Tra

--Teratornis 15:59, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are considering to edit Arabic Wikipedia, you may consider creating an account for Arabic Wikipedia. Your English Wikipedia account cannot change anything in Arabic Wikipedia and vice versa. Happy editing! --Mayfare 16:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Reliable Sources

Hello, I would like to edit a financial statistic of a company in a Wikipedia article. The current figure provided in the Wikipedia article is inaccurate according to the company's website. The current figure provided in the article, however, has a third-party source or reference. Would it be advisable to refrain from editing the figure in the article because it lacks the objectivity of a third-party source? Nevertheless, I do believe that the company has the correct figure. Prof. bongsferd —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 05:47, August 26, 2007 (UTC).

It may depend on the actual financial statistic you plan to modify. If you post the article name and give an indication as to what stats may be off, I can give you a better answer to your question. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Chicks

formation & development of three germinal layers in chick embryos —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.7.85.145 (talk) 07:38, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Astronaut 10:16, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Forgotten password, no e-mail set

Hello,

I've managed to forget the password for a bot account I own, User:Taxobot. As I didn't specify an e-mail address, I can't reset it that way.

I've put in a request for usurpation, which seems to be the only option available to me - is there a quicker way to have it reset, as I'm quite keen to get cracking today, whilst I've got the time!

Thanks,

Verisimilus T 08:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

"12 Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors."

This term in unquantified and causing us trouble on the Eve Online article. Since there are no numbers associated with the rule I suggested we use the most popular site as measured by search engine top site returns, 2 years of continuous operation and most number of edits/contributors/editors of all available Wikis on the subject. For example Wookieepedia dominates as the leading Wiki of the Star Wars fan sites and is directly linked to the Star Wars article. Obviously not every subject which has a fan base will reach the heights of that Wiki. If a subject will only attract several thousands to it's fan's Wiki's does that mean a dedicated site should then be denied a direct link to it's main subject's article on Wikipedia?

Also, I am being accused of having COI when I am just an article contributer on eve-wiki.net not the owner or maintainer nor do I have any financial ties while some of the opposing editors do have financial ties to other paid websites related to Eve Online. I went back through the history of Star Wars article to find the user User:Cbarbry who linked the Wookieepedia wiki at Wikia First linking and he is the father of the site yet that link is maintained so a precedent has been set. Another precedent is that http://eve-wiki.net/ has been externally linked on several articles for many months without incident.

This all would go away with some quantifiable numbers to the "substantial" in item 12 of W:EL. If explicit numbers can not be derived then implicit numbers relating the site in question to all possible competing sites as a benchmark on whether to allow external linkage. If a site is the top search engine choice than that is a benchmark and so is self reported usage statistics. Leaving this unquantified allows the spectre of politics spinning what external wiki's links in articles instead of hard cold performance.
In my opinion this revert war is more about protecting clickthroughs and hidden financial agendas than adhering to Wikipedia W:EL.

See further discussion at Eve Online External Links Discussion Alatari 23:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

For the benefit of anyone trying to decode the above question, the W:EL link is incorrect; the questioner appears to refer to item 12 in WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided. --Teratornis 15:53, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

As to the actual issue, here are some of my random thoughts, which may or may not help you, and by no means represent any sort of authority:

• Wikipedia does not operate on the basis of "precedents." See: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Similar links in similar articles, by themselves, do not argue for or against the link in question. (A possible exception to this rule would be featured articles, which have been judged by the Wikipedia community to be of the highest quality. You could, arguably, use a featured article as a basis for comparison, because in general, featured articles will be highly compliant with policies and guidelines. But it is better to argue on the basis of the policies and guidelines directly, rather than by analogy with other articles.)

Thankyou, I will look for feature article tags on any of the other MMORPG articles. And what do you know I found a featured article on Halo 2 with an external link to a Wiki at Wikia although I don't understand the importance listing the hosting company. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• My personal opinion is that Wikipedia does not do nearly enough to promote topic-specific wikis. As evidence, I point to the many articles getting deleted each day from Wikipedia, some fraction of which would be suitable for other wikis. Wikipedia is by far the most-visited and best-known wiki, with the result that Wikipedia attracts many users who try their first wiki edits here. Many of these new wiki users do not seem to know that Wikipedia has very specific requirements for articles, and that other wikis with different requirements exist. To complete the perfect storm of ergonomic failure, it seems that by some quirk of human psychology, the first thing many new users want to do is to create new articles, without realizing how difficult it can be to get a new article here to "stick."
  • Therefore, if I made the rules here, I would include links to topic-specific wikis everywhere I could, the idea being to encourage new wiki users who want to create articles to create them on the wikis most likely to want them. Consider the sheer waste of human effort represented by the several thousand articles Wikipedia deletes per day. Of course, no matter how obvious you make things, there will always be some new users who will get things wrong on the first try, but raising awareness of other wikis can only (in my opinion) help Wikipedia defend its quality standards more efficiently. However, obviously I do not make the rules here (I merely enjoy poking fun at them). The people who do make the rules don't seem to see a problem with suckering thousands of new users into wasting thousands of hours creating new articles, only to have dozens of admins waste even more time deleting them (although a number of people do seem to recognize the problem when someone points it out).

This is the case for 48 of the 148 MMORPG articles on Wikipedia. It appears to be a growing practice for Gaming companies to maintain an Official Wiki as an aid to their helpdesk. If no official site exists (about 40 articles) then a private Wiki is linked externally. (See my data collected on the Talk:EVE Online area) Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I absolutely, wholeheartedly and without reservation agree with your thought on external wiki's being a time saving device. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

• On editing disputes in general: my personal feeling is, why bother? In the time you might spend fighting other people on Wikipedia to make one controversial improvement, you could be making dozens of uncontroversial improvements to other articles. Wikipedia is full of articles that need help, with nobody waiting to fight the helpers. Furthermore, the subject you are talking about is a game. Games are not important. Games are merely entertainments. If a game seems to you like a life or death issue, you may be experiencing game addiction. We live in a world with many real problems, big exciting problems, problems we might actually be able to put some dents in with wiki technology. There is a war going on in Iraq. The world is going to run out of petroleum. Billions of dollars being spent on petroleum are being diverted to support terrorism. Humans may be wrecking the climate. Entire economies need to be redesigned to take advantage of Moore's law. Might wiki technology finally represent a critical mass of information technologies necessary to make telecommuting a more viable option for reducing petroleum waste, by moving information through wires, instead of by dragging millions of office-worker brains back and forth each day inside millions of tons of metal? It's interesting that gamers appear to be farther ahead of the vast majority of corporations in terms of wikifying their workflow.

--Teratornis 16:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

This has been a valuable learning experience for me. As for the game addiction... well who knows but it seems that Wiki is just as alluring and could lead to Wikiaddiction. Alatari 19:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Everett Sherman Hatcher(1988 - 1947)

Can I write about this man who was a vet of Phil-Am war and was a prisoner of war 1941 - 1947 ?Joscher 10:34, 26 August 2007 (UTC)joscher (Joshua Hatcher)

(I'm assuming the Date of Birth (1988) is wrong.) Prior to creating an article, it is a good idea to review Wikipedia's copyright policy before adding material. If you wish to include material you read somewhere else, you'll want to summarize, paraphrase, condense, etc., and then feel free to submit it to the article. (See the following: Reliable sources, Cite your sources, Manual of style, Layout guide, First article, Article development and How to edit for assistance.) If after doing all of that, have sufficient reliable sources, properly referenced, and feel you could write the article, by all means, be bold and do so! If you don't feel confident in your writing skills (or you're unsure how to do it) then you could submit the proposal to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for approval, making sure you include relevant, reliable references. Hope that helped! ^Ariel♥Gold 10:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

And of course be sure that he meets our standards of notability. --Orange Mike 15:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

editing the text of an entry

I'm trying to edit the entry on Michael Reeves (whom I knew), but when I click on [Edit] I get only codings and not the text of the article. How do I make changes then? Thanks. Ingrid Cranfield 10:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Click "edit this page" at the top of the page you want to edit. I assume you clicked the edit button at the "External links" section, which would only allow you to edit the External links section. --Silver Edge 10:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

In addition to the help above, I would direct you to fully read the conflict of interest policy. You should not edit articles about your family, friends, company, or other things with which you would have trouble remaining neutral. If you have information that would be helpful, feel free to post it on the article's talk page, citing your reliable sources and allow an impartial editor to add the material. As for what you see when you click on "edit", you should see an edit box, and inside that box will be the article's content (including what may be unfamiliar to you, the "Wiki script" bits). If you are not seeing the edit box, go into your "my preferences" and click on the "editing" tab, and see if checking (or unchecking) some of the options helps. It also may have to do with your browser's security settings, such as enabling java scripts, etc.

However, I'd again advise against editing articles on people you knew, and encourage you to instead utilize the article's talk page, allowing the community to assist you. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 10:54, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving pages

Is it possible, and if so how, do I move the page I've created from the English Wikipedia to the Portuguese Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hélio Cunha (talk • contribs) 12:04, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

No. You would have to translate the English article to Portuguese and then create a new article at the Portuguese Wikipedia. --Boricuaeddie 13:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

need help

our daughter had to have emergency liver transplant surgery and she is the mother of a 3 year old and 7 month old children, both son in law and our daughter are now financially strapped and in need of help...tried raising money with no avail, please help us help them, my e mail address is: <e-mail removed>

my daughter's name is <name removed>, her husband is <name removed>, the two little ones are <name removed> and <name removed>, and my name is <name removed>. Please help us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.2.215 (talk) 13:09, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. We here at the Help Desk can't help you; this is for questions about Wikipedia. --Boricuaeddie 13:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikitable text font color

Something is overrideing the color parameter at Barry_Bonds#Career_statistics in the Team column. Actually, the problem is that I want the link color to be the color that I have for the color parameter. How do I do that? It is showing in the default blue.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 13:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a full CSS programmer so I am not sure. You can, however, do an ugly solution by simply putting | style="background:black;"|[[Pittsburgh Pirates|<span style="color: #EAC117;">PIT</span>]] as an example cell. The reason why I think this is ugly is because there should be some way of accessing the anchor tag in a table cell from the table cell's style parameter. The color parameter currently being used will, however, apply to plain text (not in a hyperlink). x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

An example: [1] x42bn6 Talk Mess 14:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

email confirmation

I cannot seem to be able to confirm my email address using the URL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmation/<hash redacted> I get sent to all sites but except user confimation.

                                  Thank you  Jackq i69 13:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Apparently, I just confirmed your email by accident because you revealed the hash (don't do that next time - I was too hasty to remove it before hitting enter - and hashes can be brute-forced and abused). The URL is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirmemail/<your hash> rather than Special:Confirmation. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

data mining wikipedia globally.

Hello! If I extract basic data from Wikipedia, for example, the genus and species of animals, or the team colors of different sports teams; do I attribute Wikipedia via GNU because it is a derivative work? Or can I claim the organization of the material as new and *not* a derivative under a new copyright?

Specifically, if I were to extract that type of basic information from Wikipedia 'en masse' - that is, all genus and species data and the familiar name of the corresponding organism) would I be legally bound to GNU?

Or for how about if I were to pair Afrikaans words with Dutch words (via langlinks) and produce a dictionary; or extract etymological information for a large sample of words, but organize it differently?

If you reuse the text, you have to abide by the GFDL. Now, the data itself has been (hopefully) gathered from independent sources. What you could do is follow the citations to that source, read it there, and write your own article, independent of the Wikipedia one, based on that data. It has to be an original work, though: no copy & pasting, no plagiarism. Use your own words based on the cited data and provide proper attribution of your own.

Feels like school papers all over again, doesn't it? ;) -- Kesh 21:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, however I'm still confused: I'm not talking about copying sentences here, I'm talking about copying words from Wikipedia (say, half the titles of all 1 million+ articles) and organizing such titles in a specific way. Would this truly be a derivative work? Deepstratagem 01:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

In that instance, you'll have to consult a lawyer. I can't offer legal advice on the intricacies of the GDFL. -- Kesh 14:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Linking to articles from categories

I don't know where to find the howto of this.
By default, categories link to categories.
The question comes up in a merjer proposal on category:organic compounds.
What I've written works, but it's not very neat, so maybe someone just has to fix up a template. User:Brewhaha 15:55, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

The whole procedure is available at WP:CFD. It's a lot like WP:AFD. There is a little more to do than just a template and discussion, however, as the first link shows. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Whig Society

Hi,

I keep writing an article on the British Whig Society. It keeps getting deleted but I know the party exists as I am president of it's County branch. I have been trying to get other people to add stuff to it but it's being deleted.

The party is a real organisation so I cannot understand why it's not able to stay on wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stiofan1979 (talk • contribs) 16:29, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Just because it is real, it does not follow the organization deserves a Wikipedia article. Please see our policies on notability and verifiability. -- 68.156.149.62 16:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, if you are a member of an organization, please read our conflict of interest policy before creating an article about it.--Max Talk (+) 20:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Wii

Is there any way to see latest articles added to particular category? In this case Category:Wii games and Category:Wii-only games. Thanks in advance. -- Dvorsky 16:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

No. I recommend that you check the category every now and again for new articles. Also, look for articles organized by Wikipedia:WikiProject Video Games. Shalom ^Hello 16:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Not directly in the interface, but if you know a bit of programming, you might be able to conjure something up. The Wikipedia database retains timestamps for when something was last added to a category. By using for instance the query.php interface, you can look up these kinds of things, but you do need to know how to parse it. --Pekaje 17:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

You can watch categories for new article additions via User:Ais523/catwatch.js, or you if you need to monitor the articles themselves, click on Special:Recentchangeslinked in the Toolbox while viewing a category. Adrian M. H. 19:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Creating account

I have tried several times to create account in order to use Wikipedia. No luck. Why is this so difficult? Impossible?

Mvangraaf@aol.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.63.86 (talk) 18:17, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

People isn't going to be able to help you unless you state exactly what problem you are having with it. What's difficult about it? You select "Sign in / create account" at the top right of any Wikipedia's page, select "[2]", fill in the capatcha and choose a Username and password, which is pretty much the same as most websites on the internet that requires registration. KTC 18:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Another option is to go to Wikipedia:Request an account and follow the options there. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 19:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't the email address be removed?Vchimpanzee 21:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

possible deletion of my topic and article

I had an article under dog tax or dog license collecting. my name is Diane Bandy. I cannot find it anywhere and think possible a jealous competitor had it deleted. Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diane Bandy (talk • contribs) 19:49, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

More than likely, it did not meet the criteria for articles, and was speedily deleted. Please see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?, including the general criteria under which articles may get deleted. Articles need to assert the notability of the subject. Please see our subject-specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content. Also be aware that if you are closely associated with the subject, (or are writing about yourself) the conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating or editing the article. If you still think your article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. If you would prefer to get input prior to creating the article, to avoid the possibility that it may be deleted, feel free to post your suggestions at the articles for creation page. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 19:57, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

There is an article in your talk page that seems to be about what you are talking about. If that is the text you are referring to, and if it was in mainspace, then it would most likely have been deleted because it is advertising under WP:SPAM Hope this helps. Woodym555 20:00, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Dog license collecting was deleted by User:NawlinWiki in April under the reason (original essay). You could ask them for specific reasons if you like at User talk:NawlinWiki. Woodym555 20:05, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

How do i delete it?

how do i delete it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.140.47 (talk) 20:28, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Could we possibly have a title of what you want deleted? Do you want the whole article deleted or just a particular part? Woodym555 20:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Also i don't know what there is that you would want to delete because IPs can't create pages. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

blaylock transport @movng labor services

how do i advertse small company an not go broke heres a thanks from blaylock transport . hi we are a family company - we do it all from loading or unloading any size truck ltl/ pods-or storages an much more from household to offices. also on site moves plus full service packing-dishes computers an hivalue items plus we are a transport service but are not lic for household. only home deliverys dock to dock we also pickup form any store like ikea home depot maceys an much more. like air freight . thankyou for your time please call at removed

small profile please help/////

Wikipedia is not an advertising service. -- Kesh 22:24, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

One dab page for multiple words?

Hello, is it possible to have one dab page for multiple words?

I came accross Nett which refers to a place in Micronesia, but Nett is also an alternative spelling of Net (as in the opposite of Gross) - can the existing Nett be renamed to something unambiguous, and this be added to the existing dab page at Net, despite the different spelling? Don't suppose this is something that would come up that often :-)

Cheers, Davidprior 23:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we need to rename Nett, but I did add a "as an alternate spelling" header to the db page at Net. You can see it all the way at the bottom. Thanks! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

help

'how do I find what a word means?' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.97.19 (talk) 23:46, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

If you are asking how you find the meaning of a word, The Reference Desk would be more suited to that kind of question. The Help Desk is for questions about Wikipedia. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Or see Wiktionary, one of our sister projects. It's like Wikipedia, except it's a dictionary and thesaurus instead of an encyclopedia. Raven4x4x 00:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

August 27

Created Page Not Searchable

Hello,

Last week I created a page called 'The Orchid and the Rose' but it is not searchable. I rechecked how to create a page and I can't see where I went wrong. It is listed at the top in my contrabutions page.

How to I get my information searchable in Wiki..?

Regards

a/[[User:03:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't find an article of that title, and neither can I find it in the deletion log. However, there does seem to be some text on your user talk page: User talk:Saetheus. Is that where you were creating it? Before you consider trying to make it an article in the "main" space (i.e. where the article actually are), you should read about Wikipedia's notability guideline on books, and the conflict of interest guideline, both of which mean that that article would be unlikely to last for long as it stands. Confusing Manifestation 03:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Voluntary work on site

I was just wondering if there was a way I could have a "job" to get emailed what to write on a article or a source to check and if someone could tell me when to do what?

--Willis Wikister 04:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The closest thing I could think of is Category:Wikipedia_backlog... lots of work to be done. Just pick a list and start working through it. There's also the Special:Random link. Are you interested in a particular topic? There are many Wikiprojects that you could join. Many of them have a well organized and directed workflow. Sancho 04:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You can also ask for some suggested articles to edit from User:SuggestBot. Confusing Manifestation 06:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a duplicate article

how do you delete a duplicate article??Jbublick 05:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

In the duplicate article, write #REDIRECT [[Other article]], where "Other title" is what article is being duplicated. MessedRocker (talk) 05:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

See also redirects and merges. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

downloading

can i download the pages in wikipedia? if yes,plz let me know how.59.96.33.205 06:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Please see Wikipedia:Database download. Shalom ^Hello 13:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Playwrights

HOW DO YOU FIND PLAYWRIGHTS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.34.244 (talk) 06:15, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Looking in this category might be a good start Category:Dramatists_and_playwrights. --JayHenry 06:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Messages ?

Some times other users send me messages , i dont know how ...i want to send other users messages but i dont know how --Max Mayr 07:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You can send other users messages on their talk pages (for example, User talk:WODUP or User talk:Max Mayr). WODUP 08:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Drinking lemons

is it true drinking 10 pure lemons are good cleansing for the body? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.106.223.149 (talk) 09:14, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.. Note that Wikipedia does not give medical advice. PrimeHunter 13:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Per PrimeHunter's final comment, please don't ask this question at the Reference Desk—while we at the Desk normally are pleased to offer answers and guidance in answering questions of a factual nature, we really can't give you medical advice. If you're considering a substantial dietary change or unusual therapy, you would be best to consult your physician or a qualified dietitian. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:03, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Elizabeth Bishop

I am writing an article on Elizabeth Bishop.

I want to include examples of her poetry.

She died in 1979.

Do copyright laws still apply 28 years after her death ?

Can I add her poems to the article ?

Tovojolo 09:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, copyright laws still apply. Think 70 years before considering including copyrightable material. We don't quote poetry in full, for the most part. Short quotations are always acceptable, if fully cited, as that is a "fair use" of copyright material. See WP:COPY for lots more detail. AndyJones 11:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry. PrimeHunter 12:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

This section under construction

Is there a "this section is under construction"-type maintenance tag. I think it might be useful for the top half of List of historical figures dramatised by Shakespeare, while I work on it, since it'll clearly take days (or weeks) to do, and in the meantime the article will inevitably look unpolished. AndyJones 11:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance. KTC 11:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Good one, thank you. {Underconstruction} seemed to fit my bill. AndyJones 12:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Basic Topics

When using wikipedia a few weeks ago, I found a list of basic topics that are, I believe, supposed to be covered by wikipedia in all its major languages. The list included people (eg Dante, Shakespeare, Darwin etc.), civilisations, areas of science etc. I'm trying to find this page again and I can't. Could you tell me how to access it please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.130.102.174 (talk) 12:12, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Vital articles. PrimeHunter 12:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

EDITING

hi i was wondering how would i add in a statement stephen harper said about kyoto, in the kyoto protocol page????Macrae1992 13:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit the page to include it. Pick a quote which is relevant, and make sure it's not over-long (ie not pages and pages of stuff). Finally, add a link to the source - you can use <ref> tags or just place the link in square brackets: []. Adding quotes is like any other edit, that is it should keep the overall article unbiased. See also Wikipedia:Quotations. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

yes but kyoto protocol is blocked for me to edit so it is not possible how can i edit the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macrae1992 (talk • contribs) 21:36, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Kyoto Protocol is currently semi-protected, so that only registered users with accounts older than roughly 4 days can edit. As the big template on the top of the page says, "If you are prevented from editing this article, and you wish to make a change, please discuss changes on the talk page, request unprotection, log in, or create an account." (although obviously you have created an account, it's just too young still). So, your best option is to discuss it on the talk page of the article. Just start a new section with your suggested changes, and someone whose account is old enough can help you make them. Confusing Manifestation 22:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests

Hi my Name is Mike Acher I have a speshalist intrest in Earth construction, which grew out of my Degree in Architectural technology and design. If my spelling or grammer is a little wanky please bear with me as I am Dyslexic and the writen word chalenges me rarther.

I am serching high and low for 2 maps:

• one on clay types Montmorillonite, Kaolinite and Illite for the UK in particulare Cumbria.
• the second map I am looking for is on types of clay Pozolanic etc.

I suspect that the 2 types are either the same or cross frefence the information in an implyed manner.

please call on <removed> or e-mail on <removed>

I am giving a talk at carlisile on the 4th of september 2007 at Tullli House and it would be help full if I could talk in moor detail about the materials and their loacations, related to earth builds in the area.

I have a couple of papers you might be interested in on earth construction how does it work for submision.

I have just done somthing> I'm not sure if I was right. I was on the Illite page and topic not found came up on the discution tab I put in the above text. I hope this was right?? it was not easily clear how to ask such a question —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Archer (talk • contribs) 13:31, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Mike. I've removed your personal information, as this page is highly visible and at high risk for spammers. Since this is an informational question, you'd probably be better off asking at the Reference Desk, specifically the science section. Asking your question on the article's talk page (which is what you did) should work also, but may not get as fast a response. But yes, the discussion tab is the correct place for questions about an article. Just remember when you post a question such as the one above to sign it with four tildes (~~~~). This way we know who we're talking to and when you posted the message. Thanks, and good luck with your talk. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 14:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do you make Infoboxes on articles

I was wondering how to make infoboxes for films as I am currently trying to write an article on the 1929 Indian movie A Throw of Dice. Could you please provide me with some information. Emishi 14:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Infoboxes has a Directory of Infoboxes. The film infobox is {{Infobox Film}}. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an Article

I wanted to submit a request for an article on "abax" so when I searched I got

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=abax&go=Go

So I clicked on the link in the sentence:

"You can create this page or request it."

And I clicked on the "Request it" link and got to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles

which doesn't seem to have anything to do with requesting an article.

I expected a form such as this help one where I could fill in the search I requested and perhaps categorize it.

So how do I submit a request for an article?

Thank you,

Softtest123 15:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

It appears that you didn't read the very first three sentences on the Requested Articles page: "This is Wikipedia's page for requested articles. If you want to request a new article, this is the right place to start. This is to help you request an article that is not in Wikipedia's database." -- Kainaw^(what?) 22:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I did read it. There is no information there about how to request an article, only that this is the place to start. I have gotten the answer to this question at a later post and have created Abax. Crude, but a start. I have also posted on Talk:Abacus to request coordination between Abax and Abacus.

I invite you to comment on my efforts there because I want to improve my Wiki skills.

I'm learning, but I do RTFM, as huge as it is. <grin>

Thanks for your help.

Softtest123 22:43, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It is great that you started the article instead of just requesting it. It is my opinion that the article should just redirect to abacus, but I still think it is great you created it. -- Kainaw^(what?) 00:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

the highest lakes.

i want to know about the highest lakes in the world as per their height. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.193.128.226 (talk) 15:04, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

You should ask this question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in knowledge questions. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Lake Titicaca is the highest commercially navigable lake in the world, but not nearly the highest lake. See Lake#Notable lakes for the highest (an unnamed pool on Ojos del Salado) and second-highest lakes. It stands to reason that the world's highest lakes must be in the world's highest mountain and plateau areas, namely the Himalaya, the Tibetan Plateau, and the Andes. A limiting factor would be that the highest elevations are above the snow line (depending on latitude, of course, as the snow line is highest at the equator) and thus you wouldn't find liquid water above those elevations. Wikipedia has List of lakes, List of largest lakes of Western Europe, List of world's largest lakes, and several more, but I do not find a list of lakes by surface elevation. Which isn't to say there isn't one. Of course we can try searching: Google:list of highest lakes, which finds an interesting site: http://www.highestlake.com/ --Teratornis 19:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Problems in math symbols.

--201.88.18.222 15:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

It's hard to read math articles over you. Almost always they are shown as a little square on their place. I'm using from Brasil and my XP is portuguese.

Thank you, --email removed--

That is quite strange. Almost all nontrivial equations should automatically be rendered as PNG images, so if you're getting little squares in their place, there can be several causes:

1. Your browser is having problems showing PNG images. If you're using Internet Explorer, try it in another browser, like Firefox.
2. There could be something on your connection that filters or breaks the images. Perhaps some sort of proxy?
3. The Wikipedia servers could be overworked, and connections are being dropped before the image can be delivered. In that case the problem will go away on its own.

Not sure what to consider most likely, but I'd start by trying it in another browser first. --Pekaje 21:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Email address should be removed.Vchimpanzee 21:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

how to deleat a page

how can i remove a page permanently i created myself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thethoughts (talk • contribs) 16:14, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

You can't do this yourself, but if nobody else has edited the page, place {{db-author}} on the page and an administrator will delete it for you. --ais523 16:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Using search engines to find wikipedia pages

Hi there. ive recently write a page in wikipedia, and would like to know how can i make it searcheable for example in google? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ser33 (talk • contribs) 16:34, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Search engines don't update their indexes immediately. If the article stays on Wikipedia for a while (within a few weeks, ususally) without being deleted, the major search engines will have indexed the article by then and it will be found by a search. --ais523 16:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

When do I get my money?

I have made an edit to Harold and Inge Marcus Department of Industrial and Manufacturing Engineering, which is your featured article. How much do I get paid for contributing to this encyclopedia? Is there a page where I can enter my credit card details? Thank You. --Weinessaaer 16:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't pay its editors; Wikipedia is a charity. There was an April Fool's joke recently suggesting the opposite (that editors would have to pay to edit), but neither is true. See Wikipedia:About for more information. --ais523 16:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

From the edit page when you edit anything on Wikipedia.

Please note:

• By submitting content, you agree to release your contributions under the GNU Free Documentation License.
• If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it.
• Only public domain resources can be copied without permission—this does not include most web pages or images.
• See our policies and guidelines for more information on editing.

-- KTC 16:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well in that case, this is now a semi-legal matter. There is a e-mail address or a written address that I can write to regarding legality? Please dont bombard me with your "No Legal Threats" page. I am serious. --Weinessaaer 16:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know how else we're supposed to respond. Wikipedia is an entirely volunteer-run organization, which receives funding from charitable donations. I spend several hours a day on here, and I don't get a cent. Nobody, including the administrators and other higher-ups, gets paid. If that's not what you expected, then I'm afraid you're at the wrong site. Please don't make legal threats, as that is a good way to get blocked. I'm just as serious as you about that. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

goddammit! --Weinessaaer 17:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:DFTT. Corvus cornix 16:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Section headings and infoboxes

This might be a bit of an obvious issue, but is there any way the CSS of Wikipedia can be changed so that the dividing lines underneath headings don’t clash with infoboxes or right-aligned templates? It creates a real visual clash on lots of pages, surely their must be a workable solution. Sorry if this question has been asked before. Max Naylor 16:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You should probably ask at the Tech village pump - they'll have a better idea of what to do about this, but I do agree, it's a tad annoying at times. Failing that, try opening up a ticket on bugzilla. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

My Photo is on wikipedia without permission!

Look at: Image:Northern Line carriage - internal - night - London - 240404.jpg

I am the closest guy on the right hand side of the carriage seating down. Can you please remove this image? I was not asked for permission for my photo to be on Wikipedia. Thank You very much. --WoodenLadder 17:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it makes sense that if one is photographed in a public place, permission is not required to use the photo. Granted, perhaps if you wanted to take a replacement picture (and since you value permission, request that those photographed offer theirs) that would be acceptable. Sorry if I sound blunt, but I don't see another alternative. Is there some recourse for people making requests of this kind? Leebo ^T/C 17:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

ahh fine keep the picture.. I look good in it anyway. --WoodenLadder 17:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Complaint letter

Who is the "manager" of Wikipedia? I have a long and treterous complaint letter for him. How can I contact him? --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI, You're going to wind up usernameblocked, too many 000s--172.165.207.81 17:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, have a look at its contact page if you want to contact it. KTC 17:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Whats wrong with too many 000's? --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Nothing really, I'm not sure why the anonymous user 172.165.207.81 said that. Also, if your complaint is related to a specific article or user, you may have more luck discussing the issue at the relevant talk page. Leebo ^T/C 17:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Surprise surprise! This is actually Jimbo :) I was just testing the services of the Help Desk. Good Job guys, I will keep your names noted down. --000Cranleigh000Sauce000 17:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Somehow, I don't believe you, "Jimbo" ;) Neil ム 10:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

subscripts/superscripts in TOC entries from section headings

Hello. I wish to use subscripts in section headings. I can do that with no difficulty; the markup is the same, only used with the heading text bracketed by the appropriate number of equals signs. However, the subscripts do not show up properly in the heading text when in the table of contents for the page.

Is there a way to make the table of contents show subscripts or superscripts correctly? Thanks, Baccyak4H (Yak!) 17:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Uncolor links

In order to standardize Wikipedia articles, is there a way that I can "temporarily" select all and re-color the text so it will not "tempt" me to click on the supplied link(s) so just concentrate on the article itself. I can achieve this by "highlighting" but is there a better way? Thanks. BR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daedaleus (talk • contribs) 17:30, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Skins

How do you create custom skins for Wikipedia? Also how do you use them and let other users use them?

Desalvionjr 17:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Look at Wikiproject CSS and Help:User style. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 17:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU! Desalvionjr 17:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Nominations and stuff

Is there any generator to generate pages like nomination pages for you. I would help people who don't know what they need in there nominations because this way you would just answer questions and type in other requested stuff. So is there any tool for doing that?

Desalvionjr 17:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me if I'm simply missing it, but can you clarify what you mean? Nominations for what in particular? Leebo ^T/C 17:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Like sysop nominations and stuff, because that process is very confusing. Desalvionjr 17:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, sysop noms already have something of a "generator". If you go to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/nominate and click the button for nominating another user with their name replacing "USERNAME" it takes you to a page were all you have to do is place their name and your nomination statement. Then the rest is up to the person who you nominated. Leebo ^T/C 17:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well after that bit it is confusing. I am more thinking self nomination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:02, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

After that, the nominated user must accept the nomination, answer the questions by editing the page, and transclude it to the RfA page. With regard to nominating yourself, I recommend you wait and continue to gain experience. Leebo ^T/C 18:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I am experienced it is just the instructions are poorly worded to the extent where I don't understand. Desalvionjr 18:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

What I mean to say is that the amount of edits you have made does not really allow for users to see if you fully understand Wikipedia policy. This is usually achieved by participating in policy discussions, writing articles, and demonstrating the ability to effectively communicate with users over a broad range of areas within Wikipedia. I'm not trying to disparage the work you have done, just explain what is expected of RfA candidates. Leebo ^T/C 18:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I already know what is expected of rfa candidates it is just the process of nomination is poorly worded and confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:19, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you need described. There are 5 instructions for nominating yourself and they're all 1 sentence. If your question is just focused on that, I recommend asking on the talk page. Leebo ^T/C 18:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait? What page are those instructions on? either I missed it or I thought it was referring to another process. Desalvionjr 18:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

The instructions for nominating yourself are here. Leebo ^T/C 18:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I leave Wikipedia?

I just don't have time to do anything on Wikipedia and want to delete my account. How do I go about doing just that?JamesBJSU 17:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You don't. Just stop logging in. While it is possible to have an account deleted for special circumstances, the general answer is to just stop using the account. See m:right to vanish. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:50, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiCode

How do I contribute to wikicode itself? Desalvionjr 17:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean MediaWiki? Click on the the "Powered By MediaWiki" logo at the bottom of every page. That will take you to the site about the program Wikipedia uses for the "wikicode". -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I mean the code for articles and stuff. not mediawiki. --Desalvionjr 18:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you give an example? Leebo ^T/C 18:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

According to your edit history, you've edited many articles. So, you must not be asking about editing the content of pages. Therefore, you must be painfully clear what you mean by "code". Mediawiki is the program that translates all the weird "wiki" stuff into the stuff we see in the pages. What other code could you possible be talking about? -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I am Talking about "WikiMarkup" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 18:10, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Wiki markup, such as what changes double brackets around words into links to articles, is the mediawiki program, and you indicated that's not what you're referring to. Leebo ^T/C 18:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Kind of. I am reffering to the scripting language the double brackets belong to (I think...) --Desalvionjr 18:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

There's nowhere on Wikipedia to edit the way that Wikipedia functions from a scripting standpoint. That's the MediaWiki program, which Wikipedia shares with many wikis. Leebo ^T/C 18:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Then how do you contribute to mediawiki? --Desalvionjr 18:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Click on the "Powered By Mediawiki" icon at the bottom of every page. That will take you to the MediaWiki homepage - where you can get info on contributing. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Where on the page is the info?

See mw:Developer_hub. WODUP 18:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you wodup! I think that is what I was looking for the whole time!

Perhaps they should make the word "Developers" on the MediaWiki homepage is 96pt blinking font with a floating "click here for developer info" traveling around it. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

To do that you would have to use an elaborate JavaScript code and an applet scripted for that floaty text effect! --Desalvionjr 18:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding a Reference list in a wiki-style database

I write/edit articles for the computer services department at the college I go to. I am having trouble creating reference lists/citations as the Wikipedia style guide explains. We are powered by mediawiki, so I imagine that we can, but apparently must do so in a completely different manner. What do I need to do to begin creating reference lists on articles. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.7.42.53 (talk) 18:01, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

If I read this correctly, you have your own MediaWiki install and want to use the <ref> tag. See the cite extension. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Each MediaWiki wiki by default has a Special:Version page which shows the installed extensions. When you install MediaWiki, it has few features compared to what you are used to on a well-developed and heavily customized site such as Wikipedia. A big part of running your own wiki is learning how to copy the features you like from Wikipedia. Most if not all of the information you need is on these two wikis, which you should bookmark, and then reference habitually:

• mediawiki.org - Search MediaWiki.org with Google
• Meta - Search Meta with Google

--Teratornis 14:59, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

liberal bias on wikipedia?!

What is the name of the wikiproject that is used to fight systematic liberal bias on wikipeida?! I want to join!--CCRT 18:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. KTC 18:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Some people who felt Wikipedia has excessive liberal bias (or in some subjects, particularly evolution and creationism, the problem appears to be excessive factual bias) went off and started their own Conservapedia. There are many wikis which cater to many different biases. In my opinion this is a good thing, because it helps Wikipedia keep crawling toward the neutral point of view. --Teratornis 14:49, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Fix a faulty redirect

I tried to set up a disambigution page and got a redirect set up instead. I need to restore the original page (the data is still there) but there should be a disambiguation page also. The page is the entry for the actor James Gleason.

Mabibliophile 18:17, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

If you go to James Gleason now, it is the start of a disambig page for you. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

creating a new entry

I looked through the FAQ and could not see exactly how to create a new Wiki entry. can you pls help me?

Thank you!

Pam —Preceding unsigned comment added by PamelaS821 (talk • contribs) 18:24, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 18:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I add pictures?

How do I add pictures to Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohyeh (talk • contribs) 18:37, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Service Corporation International

Hello,

I would like to inquire on how to include the correct information on your site. The information currently posted in the Wikipedia site for Service Corporation International is unfavorable. I tried uploading the company information based on our corporate website but then I was blocked from the site. Can you please advise on the approval steps to include our company content in Wikipedia? Also, as an example, I would like the page to look like Shell Oil Corporation. Thanks.

Florencia Parada Public Relations Service Corporation International florencia.parada@sci-us.com

The edits were removed due to a clear conflict of interest. Provide third-party resources for the changes you want made on the article's talk page (click "discussion" at the top of the article). There is already a notice on the page that it appear unbalanced. Helping by providing balanced references from third-party sources will quickly fix the problem. -- Kainaw^(what?) 19:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I would like to erase the content completely and start from scratch. How can I do that? Last week I tried to erase the content and include our corporate information and was blocked indefinitely. My ip address is 67.99.40.15. Please advise.

The issue is that you (the company, or those directly related to the company) should not personally edit the article in any way, as it is a conflict of interest. As stated, it is advised that you go to the talk page to suggest changes or the new article you wish to have created. But again, it will need third party sources, not your company's information. Leebo ^T/C 19:41, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Where in the talk page can I submitt my suggestions?

Just click the + at the top of the talk page. You will get a form with a title and text box. This is nearly identical to sending an email with a Subject line and a Message box. Your comment will be added to the bottom of the talk page. I should note that requests to remove content that is documented by reliable third-party sources is difficult. That is the point of Wikipedia - documenting notable topics through reliable sources. It is not in any way a MySpace or Facebook site for companies to rave about how great they are (which is requested by one PR firm or another on a daily basis). -- Kainaw^(what?) 22:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page doesn't edit... it tries to download index.php???

I am trying to edit a page I just created by click on the EDIT THIS PAGE tab at the top. ( I am using Firefox mainly ) However, everytime I do it, I get a download dialog box that asks me where I want to save index.php??? I opened the page in IE and suddenly it worked. However, after a couple edits, even IE started doing the download thing. I am lost as to how to edit the whole page.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomblink (talk • contribs) 19:27, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

While this is not a situation with which I am familiar, another user reported the same situation earlier this week, and PrimeHunter suggested the following: "Try clicking my preferences at the top, and then click the "Editing" tab. If there is a check mark at "Use external editor by default" then click it to remove the mark, and click "Save"." Perhaps this solution will work for you. --Moonriddengirl 19:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much! That was it.... completely fixed the situation. Amazing.

Thanks for taking the time. --randomblink 08:19, 28AUG07 (CST)

Not a problem. I'd have been just as lost as you. Good thing PrimeHunter knew how to handle it. :D --Moonriddengirl 13:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Reverts for no reason

What do I do if someone reverts this for no reason, keep in mind that I was only following Wikipedia:External links. I know that I could just delete them again, but that might become an edit war, which I don't want. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 20:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused... has anyone actually reverted you? If they haven't (the user after you even thanked you for the pruning of links) what is the concern? As a side note, your edit summary in the removal might be a bit of a strict interpretation of WP:EL (it doesn't say exactly what you say it does), but I'm not sure what your concern at the moment is. Leebo ^T/C 20:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think you meant this page diff. Well, you were right to not delete again as edit wars are not fun for the people involved. What you can do is try discussing the link with the editor who re-inserted it and find out their reasons to keep it in the article. If you can't come to an agreement regarding the link, try discussing the link on the articles talk page. I hope this might help. AngelOfSadness talk 20:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No, this is the revert, the other one I approve of because it wasn't a neutral article. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 21:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah ok. Like I said try discussing the links re-insertion with the editor who re-inserted it and try to find out their reasons behind their edit. And if it doesn't work discuss it on the articles talk page. And if you've tried both of these, and none of them worked try mediation. AngelOfSadness talk 21:07, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

But it was later removed again as per concensus of past discussions. It sounds like the situation is under control, and I don't see an indication that this is going to balloon into a revert war. This has been discussed already, it doesn't need to be mediated. Leebo ^T/C 21:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I already started a conversation on the talk page, I just wanted to know if there were other, more powerful ways to resolve this considering that I read that RookZERO (the reverter) doesn't talk about problems. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 21:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, and he has numerous temporary blocks for 3RR violations ... There might be some edit war potential there. If he refuses to discuss it, you could consider mediation, or possibly a RFC on the issue. --Pekaje 21:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Display fonts

I have obviously deleted the font that Wikipedia uses for use 'behind the scenes'. I see Wikipedia entries just fine, but if I sign to edit, it displays in a font that is not readable. What font do I need to reinstall?

Thanks

Scielinski 21:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You can try searching Meta for "fonts". That yields several results, including: m:Font support from the Wikimedia Foundation. Let us know whether that helps. --Teratornis 14:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Report potentially offensive userbox

Sorry I was just wondering how I can do this - I assume it is possible as there are places for offensive usernames, pages, etc. [[Guest9999 21:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)]]

Generally speaking, Wikipedia is not censored, and users have a large amount of leeway on their own pages. However, in extreme cases, I suppose one could nominate it at Miscellany for deletion, which is the deletion debates for everything that doesn't fit another deletion method (I'm assuming the userbox is in the user namespace). Would you mind pointing us to the supposedly offensive userbox? --Pekaje 22:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

If it's extremely problematic, and offensive, you can tag the userbox with {{db-reason}}. Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion include T1, which refers to templates in the Template: userspace - however, if it is not in that namespace, but is very offensive, it can also be speedily deleted under a variety of criteria such as A10 (attack pages). If you had told us what/where the userbox is, I could have suggested the best action to take. Neil ム 10:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I was refering to

This user dislikes Copyright Nazis.File:Nazi Swastika.svg

I feel that refering to people as Nazis based on there views on copyright issues could be seen as a personal attack as well as potentially being quite offensive. I think that using actual Nazi symbology - the swastika - takes it beyond the "soup nazi" style joke. If I'm completely misinterpreting it or am just over-reacting I apologise, I realise Wikipedia is not censored. [[Guest9999 17:51, 28 August 2007 (UTC)]]

Yeah, that is pretty bad. But what you show here is not a specific userbox that can be deleted. This complicates things, as you would then have to resort to removing it from the userpage in question (which you still haven't specified). Not sure what policy to invoke, other than NPA. You should take your concern up with the editor on his talk page. If he refuses to remove it, it may be a case for ANI, but I wouldn't go that far just yet. --Pekaje 19:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Greetings, this is my userbox, and it only appears on my page. I have had this conversation before when an Admin vandalised my userpage by removing it without stateing a reason, or quoting a policy. I respect the fact that Guest9999 has not done this. The userbox is ment to represent the fascism that tends to follow copyright around, hence the Nazi reference (an extension of The Soup Nazi). Nazi symbolism is (in its own right) no more offensive when used in this type of situation than when it is used in Buddhism. This is just my little protest against the current world police of copyright, and as has been stated above, wikipedia is not censored. - Fosnez 02:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I am by no means a great fan of the world police of copyright, but you should also know that there are quite a few editors on Wikipedia that work on the extremely tedious and thankless (actually, not just thankless, but abuse-attracting) job of keeping the use of copyrighted material on Wikipedia to an absolute minimum. Without further clarification, this userbox could well be seen as a personal attack against the people who do this. You should also know that using the swastika in combination with calling someone a nazi leaves very little doubt on the intent of the symbolism. As such it can easily be considered quite offensive. --Pekaje 16:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I am ok with justifiable copyright enforcement, but my defination of a copyright nazi would be this guy, who you can see on the 23rd of Feb, 2007 edited my userpage and changed the way that images THAT I CREATED were displayed on my userpage. Do you really think any of the so called "owners" of the material (Of which, as the re-creator I have SOME right to, even artists are alowed to display their portfolio or copyrighted works.) care if it is a link or a display? This is the sort of un-helpful crap that I am protesting against. Fosnez 21:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Were these images which you created by manipulation of other people's works? Because by copyright law, those are derivative works and you generally have no "right" to display or use them without the permission of the creators of the originals (with certain limited exceptions for parodies, and the courts are unreliable on that exception in the U.S.). --Orange Mike 21:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Whatever your position, this is just too offensive, IMHO. It will do your cause harm. Do Wikipedia a favor and don't ever let it be seen anywhere but your userpage. Do yourself and Wikipedia a further favor and remove it from your userpage, too. DCDuring 21:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCDuring (talk • contribs)

Question 1

What is the strategies (plans of action) for effective client liaison that the Personal assistant would have in place to ensure the following responsibilities are carried out effectively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.145.220 (talk) 21:55, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

This question would be better directed toward the Reference Desk. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Be sure to specify the nature of work that the client and personal assistant do, otherwise the question is too vague to admit an answer. Notice the sequence of vague generalities which are, by themselves, almost completely devoid of any specific meaning: "strategies," "client," "liaison," "personal assistant," "in place," "responsibilities," "carried out," and "effectively." Those words could mean faintly analogous yet completely different things depending on the context (e.g., warfare, construction, bloodsport, software development, gaming, terrorism, prostitution, etc.). Politicians like to speak in glittering generalities because they want to invoke positive emotions in the largest possible audience. However, if your goal is to actually get something done (as opposed to getting elected to public office), you should try communicating specific information about something. Otherwise your underlings, if any, might silently mock your affected speech patterns by organizing games of buzzword bingo. --Teratornis 14:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Help without a Headline

I asked a question (# 7.15 Requesting an Article) but forgot to enter a Subject/headline. I went back and edited in a Subject, but I notice that in my history, the Subject of the edit is incorrect and refers to the preceding question. I haven't gotten an answer to my question and I wonder if this is why.

Softtest123 22:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know why, but the easiest way to request a article be created is to go to the page you were at and select the appropriate sub category. Then when you get to that page, add the articles name in the appropriate sub category of that page. Soon or a later a editor will come along and create the page. It is easier just to create the page by yourself. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

You wanted an article about "abax" with no specification. A Google search shows many different things called abax. Which one do you want? Your user page says you refer to yourself as a "Cyber Entomologist". If you want the abax beetle which is a redlink in Ground beetle then you might request translation of it:abax or fr:abax at Wikipedia:Translation. You also say you have an interest in the history of mathematics. In that case, we have an article on abacus which is derived from the Greek word abax. PrimeHunter 02:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I'm looking forward to contributing to Wikipedia, but right now I'm writing a book. Wikipedia really helps with research. According to The History of Computing Project an abax is a sand table used for calculations predating the abacus and evolved, I think, from a scratchpad device to one having columns and stones for accumulation. I am reluctant, however to rely on a single source and was cross referencing to Wikipedia.

In any case, I am reluctant right now to spend the time to become proficient in all the ways of contributing to wikidom. I hesitate to just stick something in Wikipedia without spending the time to do it right.

Softtest123 07:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

PS: a "Cyber Entomologist" is one who collects and classifies Software Bugs as shown in my user page. Did you try them out? Softtest123 08:02, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Abacus#Origins shortly mentions your meaning of abax. A subtle way to indicate an article should be created is to redlink a term in an existing artcile, for example "abax" in abacus, but it may not get attention. Regarding your bug, my Danish Windows Vista 32-bit calculator already crashes on (0=). PrimeHunter 14:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

There are roughly four ways to request an article: (1) Add it to the relevant page on Wikipedia:Requested articles. If you just want to give the article title, this is the place to do it, although it is severely backlogged. (2) Write a stub at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Not really appropriate, since that's mostly a venue for IPs to create pages. (3) Just create the stub yourself. You don't have to make it pretty with full wiki-syntax and everything, but you can instead add a couple of templates indicating the kind of improvement the article needs. (4) I believe we have a new-ish procedure at Wikipedia:Drawing board, where you give an outline of the article and someone else collaborates with you to make it happen, or something. Confusing Manifestation 13:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I believe that is the information I was originally looking for. I'll give (4) a try and see what happens or maybe I'll take the plunge and rough it in (3). I am getting some of the hang of this.

Softtest123 18:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I took the plunge and wrote Abax. If you would care to, I would like your comments at Talk:Abax on my first effort.

Softtest123 22:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

August 28

default password

I forget my windows password and also linux password.So I want to know what its default password?Iloveugourab 00:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Default password for what? Wikipedia has no default password. --rogerd 00:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Linux does not have a default password either. -- Kainaw^(what?) 00:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Basic editing question

I'm trying to edit a new page on created called "bandonym" but most of my edits are not appearing. Am I blocked from making further edits until it gets reviewed or something? Rick Martell 03:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Rick. I'm not positive, but I think you're just experiencing a bit of lag in the servers. Your block log is clean, and if you look at the history of the page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bandonym&action=history), you can see all of your edits. Does that answer your question? *Cremepuff222* 03:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it does, thanks. I will check in on the page later.Rick Martell 03:26, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

bpo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.106.222 (talk) 04:06, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Web browser search field?

Hi

My name is Erik Moberg and I wonder if it is possible to get a search field for wikipedia in the toolbar of ones web browser. Just like the one that's available from google, which I really like.

Thanks!

Erik —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.22.162 (talk) 04:53, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

If you're using Firefox as your browser, you can try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:4. Click on the word Wikipedia and it will add it to your browser's search capability. Also, here's instructions on how to activate the Wikipedia button for Google's toolbar -- http://www.worldstart.com/tips/tips.php/3531.
Jim Dunning | talk 05:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 7 has Wikipedia as one of its search fields as default (along with Google, IMDB, Amazon, and can be customised with pretty much any other site you want). Neil ム 10:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

User Page Appearing in Categories

When I add some items to categories my user page appears in the category list. I would like to know how to remove it and what I am doing wrong so I can stop it from happening in future. Thanks! Britmax 09:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Britmax/Workshop has some categories in it. What you want to do is [[:Category:Railway stations in Dorset]], notice the ":" before the Category. It won't show up the categories then. Woodym555 10:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

For the stubs you can do this {{tl|SouthWestEngland-railstation-stub}} which will show up as this {{SouthWestEngland-railstation-stub}}. This means it won't show up in the stubs page either. I have done it for you in your workshop. Hope this helps. Woodym555 10:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

How to save to local disk with skin?

I frequently save copies of Wikipedia articles to disk so that I can access them when I am not online; when they are opened they do not appear with any skin - how can I save a page for offline use and have it appear as it did when I was online?

Thanks

Julian I Do Stuff 10:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to save the actual CSS files (they are listed at WP:CSS#Stylesheets and JavaScript, default is Monobook,) and then change the source code of the pages to point to the files on your hard disk.--Max Talk (+) 10:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info Max. No further action required.

FYI: whilst I might do that sometime, I had already had a look at the page source and, not being terribly good at HTML (though I did figure out how to indent this:) it wasn't apparent what tags should be edited and how. Maybe Wikipedia page code could be amended some day to include the stylesheets automatically?

Julian I Do Stuff 10:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

NB - the issue above applies to Firefox (v2.0.0.6) when attempting to save as "webpage complete"; if however I save as .mht from IE7 (v7.0.6000.16512) the page appears offline as it did online.

Hope that's of use for future reference.

Julian I Do Stuff 11:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

You might also want to see: Wget#Using Wget and Download manager. You can also run your own personal wiki with a dump of the Wikipedia database. --Teratornis 14:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

How to add a link onto Wikipedia

HI There,

I am a contractor that works for Accenture.

We do a newsletter every month for Financial Services called the Point - We would like to add a link onto Wikipedia that links to the Point:http://www.accenture.com/Global/Services/By_Industry/Financial_Services/Insurance/The_Point/Y2007/fsi_thepoint52a.htm

How do I go about this?

Kind Regards

Bronwyn 0)11 875 4608 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bron01 (talk • contribs) 11:31, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

You just did. -- Kainaw^(what?) 12:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

If you're talking about advertising your newsletter, Wikipedia does not provide means for advertisement. Leebo ^T/C 13:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

The proper format for an external link is as follows:

[http://www.website.com Page Title]

which would produce:

Page Title.

And, as mentioned, please be sure to review What Wikipedia is not and the external links policy. Also, external links should be placed either in the "External Links" section of an article, or properly formatted as reliable sources using the proper citation style, and not placed into an article as URLs (See Manual of Style). Hope that helps, Cheers! ^Ariel♥Gold 13:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

10/100 BASE

What is ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.204.151.240 (talk) 14:02, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

See: Ethernet over twisted pair. Also try: Google:10/100 base. --Teratornis 14:08, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

About new profile in Wikipedia

Hi there,

I would like to find out how can new profile be added to Wikipedia? The person is famious enough (Television host)in Lithuania and we thought how can we search for more information or add new about current person we looking for? 81.138.14.33 15:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC).

Have a look at Help:Starting a new page. KTC 15:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello! And welcome! We're always happy to have new articles, but please be aware that your idea of notability may not align with the requirements of Wikipedia. To that end, you can begin with reviewing the notability policy. Biographies must cite reliable sources as references to the article, and not contain original research. Also, see what Wikipedia is not, and the biographies of living persons policy. After reviewing those, if you'd like to submit it, including the third-party reliable sources as references, to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, feel free to do so. Thanks! ^Ariel♥Gold 15:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflcit) You do need to be a registered user to create a new article. Alternatively, consider going to WP:AFC or WP:RA. KTC 15:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

An\a

In this instance, which is gramatically correct - a historical church, or an historical church? Simply south 15:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

According to Wikitionary, the correct usage here would be "a historical church." Since the h is pronounced, the word doesn't start with a vowel sound, so would use a instead of an. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:01, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Merriam-Webster is a little more relaxed: it allows either, according to individual pronunciation. For some users of British English it depends on whether or not the word is derived from French: whether conscious of the derivation or not they would use "an" before such words as hotel, history, honourable. I'm quoting from Discrimination between a and an. --Old Moonraker 16:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

It depends whether you drop your aitches or not when speaking (A historical, An 'istorical). However in writing, you don't write "'istorical", so it's always "a historical", "a hotel", "a honourable gesture", and so on. Neil ム 10:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I upload an article on a new topic?

I wanted to know how to upload an article on a new topic. Samdak 16:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Copy and pasted straight from 2 topic above this one. KTC 16:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at Help:Starting a new page. KTC 15:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello! And welcome! We're always happy to have new articles, but please be aware that your idea of notability may not align with the requirements of Wikipedia. To that end, you can begin with reviewing the notability policy. Biographies must cite reliable sources as references to the article, and not contain original research. Also, see what Wikipedia is not, and the biographies of living persons policy. After reviewing those, if you'd like to submit it, including the third-party reliable sources as references, to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, feel free to do so. Thanks! ^Ariel♥Gold 15:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflcit) You do need to be a registered user to create a new article. Alternatively, consider going to WP:AFC or WP:RA. KTC 15:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I need help

To expand and modify this article I have created on a major news event South Greece earthquake 2007. The sunder king 16:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

WT:GREECE might be a good place to find other editors who would be interested. Leebo ^T/C 16:54, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Bruce Rushin

I would like to add some more information about Bruce Rushin. I am his daughter and could make the entry more informative. How do I go about doing this? Emily Rushin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.92.41.134 (talk) 17:16, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for expressing interest in improving the encyclopedia! Bruce Rushin's article is currently a stub, and could probably use a rewrite with expansion. As a direct relative, you would have to be very careful about adding content to the article. You would have to make sure that any information you add is verifiable through reliable sources (you cannot add first-hand accounts, they must be published by independent sources). Also, it may be difficult for you to remain neutral when writing about your father, which could present a conflict of interest. If you want to make uncontroversial changes (grammar, spelling, formatting) that's probably fine. If you want to add substantial content, I would recommend discussing/proposing it first at Talk:Bruce Rushin before adding it to the article. If you keep our policies of neutrality and verifiability in mind, you should be okay. Leebo ^T/C 17:36, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Cannot move an entry

I'm working on the entry for "Special Effects," and I would like to retitle it "Special Visual Effects" with appropriate redirects. However, even though my account is more than four days old, I do not see the "Move" option on any of my menus. What can I do to retitle this entry?

Brian Siano 17:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Your account will turn four days old in 40 minutes; your log says that it was create on 18:00 24 August 2007. :D Maxim_(talk) 17:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I get off sock puppet?

Someone, perhaps maliciously, has marked me as a ‘sock puppet’. I object and insist that I am not a sock puppet. How can I undo this?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TomCat111 (talk • contribs) 17:53, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

You jumped into Wikipedia and immediately set off adding controversial edits to a controversial page. That is what marks you as a sock puppet. It usually happens when a person's primary account is blocked due to excessive reverts or a person wants to make it appear that more people supports his/her controversial view. I suggest backing off the edits you've been pushing and discussing them on the article's talk page. That is not what a sockpuppet normally does. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. You haven't answered my question. Besides, you have a pretty notorious reputation in Wikipedia, so I would appreciate if you never ever crossed my path. Thanks.--TomCat111 18:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do not attack people. That won't help your case.--Max Talk (+) 18:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually your user page contains a {{sock}} template which merely claims the person who put it there suspects you are a sock puppet. One obvious way to remove the template would be for you to dispel such suspicions by making a substantial number of good-faith contributions to unrelated articles. In other words, establish a diverse record of contributions to Wikipedia, so it doesn't appear as if your edit history begins with you already possessing considerable editing skills, and with only a single (controversial) topic of interest. Read the sock puppet page for the symptoms of sock puppetry, and try not to exhibit them. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so what matters on Wikipedia is the degree to which a contributor promotes the goal of building up the encyclopedia. In contrast, an editor with a single interest seems to care more about that interest than about the encyclopedia project. Also, you undermine your denial of sock puppetry by alleging something about Kainaw's reputation on Wikipedia - your contributions only go back one week; if you were a new user, acting independently, how could you know much about "the" reputation of specific users? I've been editing here for more than a year, and I know nothing about Kainaw's supposed reputation (as if a Wikipedia contributor would only have one reputation anyway). --Teratornis 20:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Teratornis, thank you for taking time to explain. I have been registered with Wikipedia, for at least a couple of years. Wikipedia can run a check on my IP and see if its the same IP that I've registered with, plus this IP couldn't have been used by any other name or pseudonym. If I was a veteran then why would I be wasting my time here asking these questions? that leaves the mystery of how I have learned about Kainaw’s reputation; the answer is very simple, just click on his name and read the comments on the very top. These comments are anything but flattering. Why I am interested in editing the pages I am editing? The answer is, while doing some research, I came across these pages and realized they were highly biased and did not present the true picture; therefore, I added some of the information I had already collected for my another article. As Floyd once said, sometimes ‘a cigar is just a cigar’. Hope that makes sense. Thanks.--TomCat111 22:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I worked long and hard for those comments. I regret that I never got a good insult from Zephram Stark. I tried - I really tried. He called me unAmerican, ignorant, blind, and many other things. He just never gave me a good snippet to work with. Perhaps he knew I was just trying to get a good insult out of him and refused to give one up. -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It would be nice if Wikipedia users had to demonstrate a firm grasp of the style over substance fallacy before being able to participate. But then Wikipedia would be a lot smaller. --Teratornis 18:12, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Editing Content

I would like to add content to a pre-existing page (and be certain that I am doing it correctly/not stepping on toes). The page in question is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceworker.

• Is it OK to add content to this page (not change what others have written-- only add)?
• Is it OK to use content from another (non copyrighted) website w/ the permission of the other site's owner? If I do borrow content, must it be sited?

Thanks for the help.

Cheers, Wikitombo 18:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)Wikitombo

I would like to insert the following content:

Content ...

In 1985, the Shriver family established The Shriver Peaceworker Program in honor of Sargent Shriver, first director of the Peace Corps and one of the most creative and effective public servants of the 20th century. From the earliest days of his service in the Kennedy administration, Shriver envisioned that Returning Peace Corps Volunteers (RPCV) would have a deep and lasting impact upon American society, a vision that he instituted as the 3rd Goal of the original Peace Corps legislation. The Shriver Peaceworker Program was designed to give structure to this vision by supporting a select group of RPCVs as they • Pursue graduate degrees • Engage in community service • Participate in ongoing ethical reflection and development.

The program goal is to educate and train a new generation of citizen leaders who are able to critically, creatively and responsibly address the complex economic, social and cultural problems confronting the United States—and in particular its cities—today.

In 1994, the Shriver family expanded and refined the Peaceworker Program making it a signature program of the newly created Shriver Center, established at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC) and a central component of the Center’s principle mission: “to develop and support innovative programs that address the need for remedies to the problems of our central cities.” In 2001 the Shriver Peaceworker Program became an official affiliate of USA/Peace Corps Fellows and remains among its most select graduate experiences nationwide. Since 1994 the program has supported nearly 100 Returned Volunteers earning degrees in 17 academic disciplines at UMBC and 8 other Consortium institutions. These outstanding RPCVs have brought rich service experiences from over 50 Peace Corps countries and applied them toward significant domestic service through dozens of Baltimore-area community-based organizations.

Each year—on a competitive basis—the Shriver Peaceworker Program invites up to ten RPCVs to participate in a rigorous, two year service-learning program integrating three key components: graduate study, community service, and ethical reflection. Participation in the program is limited to Peace Corps volunteers who have successfully completed their service overseas.

Graduate study is the first, key component of the Shriver Peaceworker Program. Fellows engage in full-time academic study across a number of disciplines. Acceptance into the Peaceworker Program is contingent upon admission to a graduate program offered by the University of Maryland, Baltimore County or by one of our current Consortium partners. Peaceworkers have the flexibility to choose from a number of disciplines and programs, allowing them to explore their own academic and professional interests and develop their own approaches to the challenges of social change and development. Applications to the humanities, sciences, technical disciplines and professional schools are equally encouraged.

Community service is the second, key component of The Shriver Peaceworker Program. Each Peaceworker will be placed in a part-time (20 hrs./wk.) community service position focused as closely as possible on the area of social concern to which they are drawn. Peaceworker community service placements are diverse, ranging from positions engaged in direct service delivery to others serving indirectly through program design, management, research or evaluation.

We partner with organizations small and large focused upon meeting diverse needs including: literacy and education, youth services, public health, homelessness and poverty, inter-cultural/international services, and community development. Peaceworkers work in these placements serves not only the Greater Baltimore community but also constitutes an opportunity for experiential learning, allowing Fellows to develop practical and professional skills and gain first hand knowledge of the complex social problems confronting the United States and its cities today. Service placements are required for the full two years and are correlated with the Peaceworkers’ graduate study. Integration of community service and academic learning in the form of traditional topic research, program evaluation, and participatory action research are highly encouraged.

Ethical Reflection forms the third, key component of the Shriver Peaceworker Program. The program includes a number of structured opportunities designed to enable Peaceworkers intellectually and personally to integrate the practical, theoretical and moral dimensions of their experience. Peaceworkers begin the program their first summer by enrolling together in a graduate seminar “Foundations in Ethics and Social Change” that introduces theories and methods of ethics, social change leadership, and urban studies.

Building upon this seminar in subsequent semesters Peaceworkers enroll in a series of four Practicum courses, each guided by a framing topic and core curriculum, but infused with the particular knowledge and experiences of the Peaceworker Fellows themselves. The Practical titles are: “Service, Peacebuilding and the Individual: Ethics, Leadership, and Personal Practice” “Service, Peacebuilding and Society: Social Formation and Social History” “Service, Peacebuilding and Culture: Issues and Intersections” and “Service and Peacebuilding: The Meaning and Role of Religion and Spirituality.” Meetings are interactive and include opportunities for discussing texts and films, but also encourage site visits, experiential learning, and special guest presentations.

Through these three integrated components, Peaceworkers, over the course of two years, develop the theoretical knowledge, practical skills, and reflection tools necessary to understand the structures of deep-rooted social problems, discern authentic possibilities for their solution, and begin to effectively implement them.

See WP:BOLD - Be bold and make changes. Others will undo it if you make mistakes. You'll learn and do better next time (assuming you don't do great the first time). -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait, Kainaw. Wikipedia assumes that all information is copyrighted unless it is explicitly declared Public Domain or another free content license. You must get permission from the content owner to release the information under GFDL. In addition, the information you included above must be sourced with reliable sources. In addition, the above information should be removed as a copyvio. Corvus cornix 18:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

(EC)To Wikitombo: Generally, you must not simply cut-n-paste content from other websites into Wikipedia articles. It is a pretty serious issue Wikipedia:Copyright violations that requires very close attention to ensure proper permissions. Please note this is not an accusation against you, it is just a reminder since a lot of the text you requested to add seems to be verbatim from pre-existing content already on the web, and there is no obvious indication that there is permission to re-use the text. dr.ef.tymac 18:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

To Wikitombo: If there is some content that is already on the web, and you think it is appropriate for inclusion in a Wikipedia article, please read Wikipedia:External links. Thanks for your interest in Wikipedia, and thanks for taking a moment to ask how to use the site properly. If you need any further help, feel free to ask here. Regards. dr.ef.tymac 18:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Automated text and article uploads to Wikibooks

I noticed after some searching-around and FAQ-reading that WP (apparently) does not have an API. I'd like to know what is the acceptable method (if any) of automating article edits and article creation. I'd also like to know the same answer for Wikipedia. There seems to be plenty of guidance for people who want to download from WP, but not much for people who do not do very well with editing and "cutting-n-pasting" into the TEXTAREA of a web-browser. dr.ef.tymac 18:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

There is an API for MediaWiki, but only for querying (downloading) rather than uploading, as far as I know. What you are asking about probably falls under external editing tools; see: WP:EITW#EdiS. However, wikitext editing uses what is probably one of the simplest markup languages around. Almost anybody who is smart enough to have something worthwhile to contribute to Wikipedia can readily learn enough wikitext editing to contribute it (perhaps an exception would be someone who has an emergency need to add content and no time to learn how, but on Wikipedia There is no deadline). Some of the template stuff gets ugly and complicated, but for basic text editing, probably 80% of what a new user needs to know is on the cheat sheet. The other 20% is easy enough to look up on Help:Editing. Or try watching the MediaWiki training videos. I have personally observed several people who did not begin with strong computer backgrounds being able to pick up enough wikitext editing to get comfortable pretty quickly. Wikipedia could not have gotten as large as it has (6,851,982 articles) if editing here was really very difficult. Even so, if you already have a large book and you want to input the whole thing to Wikibooks, it would be nice to have an automatic conversion method, but almost any automatic conversion would probably still leave you with lots of formatting that did not wikify very well, and you would have to edit it by hand anyway. Personally, I would like to see some XSLT stylesheets that would convert back and forth between wikitext and DocBook, because then one could use stylesheet customization to control the details for formatting conversions. However, XSLT syntax can be really brutal, in my opinion. --Teratornis 20:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding content to pages

I would like to add content to wikipedia for our organziation Marguerite Casey Foundation. I am having a hard time finding how to upload the information Could you please let me know how to do this and how to ensure that no one will edit the content Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casey grants (talk • contribs) August 28 2007

I'll respond to your question in two parts. First, the second question: you can't ensure no one will edit the content. Wikipedia's Ownership article might help explain this policy to you. In part, it specifies that "As each edit page clearly states: If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it." Once you've submitted the information, editors may change it and probably will. --Moonriddengirl 19:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Second, to edit pages, you follow the same procedure you used to get your comment here, which is set forth more fully at how to edit a page. You can compose your information offline and paste it into the edit window, but be sure you are not overwriting existing material. Also, please ensure that the material conforms to Wikipedia's manual of style. To be included on Wikipedia, organizations must match notability requirements set out at Notability (organizations and companies), and third party verifiable references must be set out. Please be particularly careful if you plan to edit a page related to a company with which you are involved to maintain the requisite neutrality. Editing by users with a conflict of interest is strongly discouraged because maintaining neutrality may be difficult. --Moonriddengirl 19:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Table of Contents

Does anyone know how to alter the TOC so as to make a very long list of headers appear in a few columns across the page instead of listed down. So for example instead of:

h
h
h
h
h
h
h
h
h
h
h
h

it might appear as:

h_______h_________h
h_______h_________h
h_______h_________h
h_______h_________h

and so would take up less vertical space on the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.77.108.70 (talk) 19:43, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EITW#Tab and WP:TM/TOC, which may or may not help. Basically, there are some compact TOC templates you can use, but only if the TOC you want to make matches the format of one of the templates. If an existing template does not do what you want, you might try designing another. --Teratornis 20:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Signature!

Hey! I have bben seeing alot more custom signature styles! How do you set it up to make the four tildes turn into it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 20:07, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

well, to make your signature "appear" you simply, end your comments with the 4 tides, wiki will do the rest, to change what your signature looks like, go into "my preferences", and change it, you can do many things with it, like ^{[[User:your username|your username here]]} for example.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 20:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Was the irony of non signing the question intended? :) Leebo ^T/C 20:23, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I just plain forgot!Oh i alredy knew how to add it! Desalvionjr 20:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

how to un delete a wiki

Recently a wiki page belonging to an artist, James De La Vega has been deleted by a moderator. Mr. De La Vega is an important figure in the nyc community amongst artist and art activist. How might someone revive a deleted wiki page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunchtkts (talk • contribs) 20:32, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

See WP:WWMPD. --Teratornis 20:46, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, in this case the article, "James De La Vega" was deleted by User:Kurykh after a "Proposed deletion" tag was attached to it. According to the PROD page, "Articles deleted under this procedure (using the {{prod}} tag) may be undeleted, without further discussion, on a reasonable request. Any administrator can be asked to do this (or perform this action themselves), or a request may be made at Deletion Review, but such undeleted articles are able to be speedily deleted or nominated for deletion under the usual rules, should they meet those more stringent criteria." If you think you can make the article meet the notability requirements, ask Kurykh to undelete it. However, if it still fails to meet notability requirements, it will deleted per WP:AfD.--Max Talk (+) 23:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Leadership

Just a couple of weeks ago, i had researched leadership and its various aspects.I had found several information through wikipedia. Infact i also saved it as my favourites for easier use. Last week when i tried to retrieve the link it had only basic information about leadership. whilst other information was missing. Kindly let me know if someone could resubmit that information at your earliest convenience in order for myself to work on my thesis. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Rishi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.158.92.190 (talk) 22:08, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

You might be looking for this version http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leadership&oldid=151839480. You can check the page history of an article and check any previous edits by clicking the "history" tab at the top of the page. In this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leadership&action=history. The article was stubified because it was deemed by most editors to be spammy, Original research and generally not of a high quality so you might not want to base your thesis on it. Woodym555 22:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

EDITING A SEMI-PROTECTED PAGE WHEN THE ADMINISTRATOR FAILS TO RESPOND

How do I go about adding a fact to a semi-protected page? I am attempting to add the date of birth to the Michael Reghi page. His date of birth, as cited by Ohio court records in both the Rocky River Municipal Court and the Oberlin Municipal Court, is June 5, 1953. I e-mailed the individual "tawker" that took it upon himself to semi-protect the page, but he has not bothered to respond. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidHemsath (talk • contribs) 22:19, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Since the page is only semi-protected, you should be able to edit in a few days (at 5:40 am, September 2nd, UTC). The reason you can't edit it now is because your account is new - to prevent vandalism, accounts must be at least four days old before they can create new pages, move pages, or edit semi-protected pages. The reason Tawker hasn't responded yet is because he is currently on a Wikibreak, taking a short vacation from editing Wikipedia. I'm sure that he had good reasons for protecting the page, in accordance with our protection policy, so please remember to assume good faith. In the meantime, you're welcome to request the change on the article's talk page, where I'm sure someone will fix it soon. And if they don't, you should be able to on the 2nd. Happy editing. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

• • • Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidHemsath (talk • contribs) 01:09, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

custom wikitables

Is there a way to create a table containing

{| class="wikitable"
... table contents...
|}

and then modify the style of that entire table (for example, adding style="border:#abc")? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:53, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

You can customize a table inline, such as

{| style='border:3px outset blue;background:orange;'

|-

|this is some content

|}

I do not know how to add custom styles (such as using the <style> tag) in Wikipedia. -- Kainaw^(what?) 00:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought about that solution, but then I'd have to define a whole lot of style elements. I want to keep all of the wikitable style except the border. I can't figure out how to override part of a pre-defined class. Thanks for responding, though. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 02:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

You only define what you want to override. The "cascading" part of CSS means that anything you don't define cascades down from previous definitions. So, if you only define a border, all other definitions will cascade from the pre-defined class. Or, am I completely misunderstanding what it is you want to do? -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I want most of wikitable to cascade. The problem is that it doesn't work. I have an example in my sandbox that I'm working with, but the styles that should override wikitable don't change. Everything stays as the default wikitable. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll have to try and find the wikitable style declaration. It is possible to make a setting that cannot be overridden. I hope that is not what they've done. -- Kainaw^(what?) 12:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

August 29

Uploading information about self

…Fiona Campbell 02:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)÷Fiona Campbell 02:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)I am an academic and wish to upload biographical information about myself. I have written the text in Ms Word format. I am unclear how to upload it. I have searched the site but am confused!!!!!!

Wikipedia's file uploading feature is for images and sound files, not documents (such as pdfs and word documents). To put the text on Wikipedia, you would need to create an article. However, we have some fairly strict guidelines about writing about yourself (specifically at WP:AUTO and WP:COI), and about writing about people without an assertion of notability (at WP:BIO, and without seeing your details I can't say whether or not you would pass this or not). You're best off putting a request somewhere like the Drawing board, including enough detail to demonstrate your notability, and let someone else take it from there. Confusing Manifestation 04:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

See the similar question above: #Automated text and article uploads to Wikibooks. --Teratornis 18:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Help with wikitables

i put one on my page, it isn't working properly, could somebody please fix it?

it only will take a few minutes/seconds for an experienced formatter.

Aeryka the Gnome 02:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

How's that? Note that if your screen isn't wide enough, the cells will overlap (you might be able to get around that with a scrollbar). I don't know why there's so much white space under the "VMK" userbox. DH85868993 05:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Upon closer inspection, the whitespace appears to be within the VMK userbox. DH85868993 06:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

tiger oak wood

Hi I have been trying to find out about tiger oak furniture and either dont know how or there is no information about it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chefkingfish1 (talk • contribs) 03:06, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

A Google search on Wikipedia finds only one article that mentions "tiger oak": Slippery Noodle Inn. Try google:"tiger oak". --Teratornis 18:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

pakistan

who is the first governer of pakistan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.63.226.9 (talk) 03:54, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

This question should properly be asked at Wikipedia:Reference desk, but I can answer it anyway: The first Governor-general of independent Pakistan was Mohammed Ali Jinnah, generally regarded as the leader of the Pakistan movement. More information at Governor-General of Pakistan.Hornplease 04:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Want to close my account. Forgot username and password.

Please help. Thanks. Jo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.103.143.9 (talk) 04:02, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

See right to vanish. An account cannot be deleted because all contributions must be attributed to an editor. --Hdt83 ^Chat 06:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Posting contents in wikipedia

We do have a product with us which helps to improve the work flow of any organization. My question is how can i post the information relating this BPM product in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by QBizTech (talk • contribs) 04:38, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

While our notability guideline for software is apparently defunct, the general criteria still apply. If you can provide neutral, third-party source demonstrating the notability of the software, then you're on the way to creating an article that won't get deleted within thirty seconds. Once you've gotten that far, you'll be wanting to actually create the article, which is where some of the following documents will come in handy:

• Help:Starting a new page - will tell you what to do
• Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article - will tell you how to do it right
• Wikipedia:Tutorial - a good place to learn how to format the article
• Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Original research, Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability - A few of the really big points that you need to cover to ensure that the article demonstrate's the product's notability, and doesn't read like an advertisement.

That's a lot of bedtime reading for you, but don't worry, we don't bite, so feel free to keep asking questions here, or on the talk pages of editors demonstrating a willingness to help (like me), or go to your own talk page and add {{helpme}} along with a question and someone will come along.

Although one thing may be an issue - your username is possibly not the best choice, as it suggests a role account (i.e. one account acting for a group of people, such as a corporation), and these are generally not allowed. See also Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#'Role' accounts. You may want to request a username change, and also declare any conflicts of interest you may have when editing. Otherwise, happy editing! Confusing Manifestation 05:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Extreme sports

about extreme sports —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.53.134.200 (talk) 06:08, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

See extreme sports. Your "question" exhibits extreme vagueness. --Teratornis 17:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Themlink - title spell and font error

How to correct the topic spelling and font size errors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.11.52 (talk) 06:11, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

You got confused by all the redirects! You just have redirects from TheMLink to Themlink, and from Themlink to TheMLink. I have fixed them both to point to TheMlink. Neil ム 11:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Account created year ago exists or maybe it doesn't

I've made only one lifetime edit to wikipedia (I think it was on one of the chemical sugars) and that was in April of 2006. I believe I created the account "Walker W" at the time, seemingly corroborated by a page showing a user creation for Walker W of April 26, 2006. Apparently, I created the account without giving an email, because I get a message "Error sending mail: There is no e-mail address recorded for user "Walker W.", but I've tried all the usual passwords and can't get in. I'd be happy to create another account, but the similar name walkerw is not allowed because it is too close to Walker W. I would like to create an account and a user page and include an email [email address removed] when I do. walkerw probably makes the most sense to me as a user name, and it appears that there is little associated with the Walker W. account which probably should be deleted or its record merged with the new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.207.79.223 (talk) 06:21, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Hi Walker. I have created an account for you under the username User:Walkerw and the email address you have provided. An email should go to that address with the login details. The old account can just stay, no harm will come of it. Neil ム 11:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

golabalistion

what is the effect of globalisation in economic world please explain in detail

and the causes of the globalisation

202.54.42.17 06:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

See the article on globalisation. :) --Hdt83 ^Chat 06:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

deliting the data in the hard drive

how to delete the data present in the hard drive

altouh it is recovered when recovered from the software

pls guide me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.54.42.17 (talk) 06:57, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Please ask your question at the computing reference desk - go here: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. They are more likely to be able to help. Neil ム 11:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The Shredding article may get you started. --Teratornis 17:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete an image

I uploaded an image by mistake, can it be deleted pls? The deletion process is too intricate to read through. I just made a mistake uploading and now i need to delete the image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AdamSurch (talk • contribs) 11:18, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

No problem, Adam. Done. Neil ム 11:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sinebot duplicating me

When I sign using the four tildes (as instructed) in a discussion (Talk), I find that the sinebot adds another signature. Both my signature and the sineobt-added signature appear. Am I doing something wrong? How can I get this annoyance to stop? DCDuring 11:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCDuring (talk • contribs)

You must use a signature which links to your user page. Go to Special:Preferences. If you don't want to customize your signature then just leave the signature box empty and uncheck "Raw signature". PrimeHunter 11:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I had done this and have done it again. A question below (about IP address being disclosed) seems like a related problem. It may be that my PC has a trojan horse. DCDuring 18:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The question about IP addresses is unrelated, since it simply has to do with the way Wikipedia identifies contributions by editors who are logged out. His problem with logging out is a local computer problem. Your problem is that a signature that does not link to your user page is not considered by SineBot to have been signed. You really should be linking to your user page as that is the purpose of signing. This is an on-Wikipedia problem caused by your lack of a link; nothing on your computer could affect SineBot. Leebo ^T/C 18:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm a bit late to the party here, but did you perhaps check the box in your preferences marked "Raw signature"? If so, then either try unchecking it, or replacing the name in the signature box with a full wiki-link, i.e. [[User:DCDuring|DCDuring]]. Confusing Manifestation 22:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

DCDuring's latest contributions already have a correct user page link.[3] PrimeHunter 23:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

What is the default for that checkbox? Checked or unchecked? In other words, did my clumsy fingers or inattentive brain do this to me or can I blame the design of the preferences page?

In other words, was it my fault or Wikipedia's default? DCDuring 23:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It was unchecked when I created my account, and I assume unchecked is default (or at least meant to be default) for all new accounts. I rarely see unlinked user names. But you could try blaming a hacker or developer ;-) PrimeHunter 00:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be uncommon for some of the checkboxes in the preferences to be clicked either by accident or without people understanding what it's for, as evidenced by the many occasions when someone asks a question that indicates they checked the "use external application to edit" box. Confusing Manifestation 00:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

You can also opt-out of Sinebot. Add Category:Users who have opted out of automatic signing to your userpage. --Haemo 01:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

How do you look up the plural of a word?

--206.57.42.130 11:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

In print dictionaries, this information is usually found after the entry for the term in singular. Many online dictionaries follow this practice. For one example, dictionary.com--but note that this particularly dictionary does not usually include the plural when it is achieved by the simple addition of "s". If I've misunderstood your question, please clarify, and I'll try again. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd probably use Wiktionary. Cheers, WODUP 12:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Good point. You'll get it without all the lovely pop ups. --Moonriddengirl 12:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Look up Plurals

How do you look up the plural of any given word withing Wikipedia to determine if it is a add an "s" or drop a letter and add "ies"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtbiii (talk • contribs) 12:20, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Well, Wikipedia's an encyclopedia; it may or may not list the plural form of a word within it. Wiktionary's a dictionary, though, and is sure to have the plural you're looking for. WODUP 12:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Management Diamond

I tried to create a new page - "Management Diamond" - which refers to a management model described in a book by the same title, but the name was protected (without any such page or log). Please advice!

GEFU —Preceding unsigned comment added by GEFU (talk • contribs) 12:45, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Your account needs to be four days old before you can create a page. You created the account at 12:23, 29 August 2007, so you won't be able to create the article for four days. You might want to try at Wikipedia:Articles for creation, they will create the article and you can edit it. Woodym555 13:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Users can create articles immediately after registering, there's no waiting period like for moving pages or editing semi-protected pages. What was the exact name of the article? Are you sure it's not a protected title? Leebo ^T/C 13:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

How did you try to create it and what exactly happened? Management Diamond is not protected. PrimeHunter 14:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

INTRODUCTION to Wikipedia page creation: wrong link

Please check the link and content from INTRODUCTION on how to create a page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction which currently links to information on: Massage Practice

Many thanks, Campbell Warden —Preceding unsigned comment added by CampbellWarden (talk • contribs) 13:36, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

The area at the bottom of the Introduction page is a sandbox, meaning it's a place for people to experiment with editing a Wikipedia page that will not remain permanently. Someone chose to experiment with some text related to massage practice. It will be cleaned out eventually, or you could remove it yourself. Leebo ^T/C 13:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Spam question

what are the guidelines for avoiding an article being flagged as spam?--Rsreams 13:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Rsreams. Basically, don't write an article that reads like an advert! See our policy on advertising. Neil ム 13:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Articles are tagged as spam when they are created solely for the purpose of promoting the subject, rather than discussing the subject in a neutral manner. The best way to avoid creating an article that reads like spam is to refrain from using advertorial text (like you'd hear in a commercial) and to give appropriate weight to all aspects of the subject. If it's a company or product, things like prices and services are rarely encylopedic, and should be left out. Lastly, as with all articles, the information should be based on what can be found in reliable independent sources. Leebo ^T/C 13:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

ok this I can follow to some degree, but cannot see how the article I've written is considered Advertsing? According to wikipedia "Advertising is paid, one-way communication through a medium in which the sponsor is identified and the message is controlled. Variations include publicity, public relations, product placement, sponsorship, underwriting, and sales promotion. Every major medium is used to deliver these messages, including: television, radio, movies, magazines, newspapers, the Internet (see Internet_advertising), and billboards." —--Rsreams 13:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsreams (talk • contribs) 13:54, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's a literal definition of advertising. If you're getting caught up on the "paid" part, things tagged as spam don't have to actually be advertising in a literal sense, they just have to meet our definition of spam, which I gave you above. Something can read like advertising while not actually being a literal paid advertisement. It mostly has to do with the neutrality of the article. Also, it would help us if you could identify the article you wrote which was tagged as spam so we can assess it. Leebo ^T/C 13:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not caught up on the paid part - the article is Santa Wheels and was immediately flagged with a spam flag which leads me to think it was through some automated process. The first article I added was deleted by a 'bot' within 12 hours of it's creation for lack of notability not giving me a chance to correct - now I have the 'spam; flag. The article is written in the third person in a reporting manner and does not solicit any action on the part of the reader - it's simply meant to be informative. I added two site links as instructions seem to favor providing sources - I'm wondering if this is the problem and should be deleted. thanks for your help.--Rsreams 14:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Your first article was not deleted by a bot, bots can't delete. It was deleted by an administrator named SchuminWeb. Your Santa Wheels article was tagged by a user named Cholmes75, but I don't really agree with him that it is blatant spam. I'll review it and get back to you. Leebo ^T/C 14:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help I'll wait to hear from you--Rsreams 14:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I've invited the user to respond on the article's talk page. Let's continue the discussion there. Leebo ^T/C 14:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Which currency to use on Wikipedia?

In articles on European football transfers some amounts are in Euro's, some in British Pounds, and others even in dollars, or local currencies. I've tried to search wikipedia for a solution but can't find any.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruud_van_Nistelrooy#Manchester_United in pounds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_football_transfer_record in euro's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LA_Galaxy in dollars

Is it custom to stick to one currency, EU euro, US dollar, GB pound sterling? Or all relevant? (For instance when clubs from two countries are involved). And if so, does one use the exchange rates of the day of transfer, or one that is updated regularly according to contemporary rates? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomroes (talk • contribs) 13:56, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Let me say right up front that I'm still a Wikipedia novice, so do not take my comments below as gospel. Other more experienced editors are very welcome to refute what I write.

This is tricky, in part because Euros have only been a common currency since 2002. Based on WP:$, my guess is to use whatever currency was being used by the original sources. The transactions themselves are in specific currencies, so it's best to report those (and let readers, if they so desire, make calculations on their own). My guess is that those articles use different currencies because those are the forms of money used in each transaction. (It makes sense that the L. A. Galaxy, based in the US, would use US dollars.)

If a transaction happened after 2002 and you want to standardize Wikipedia's reporting of them, one approach would be to choose one standard to serve as the foundation (let's say Euros for the sake of example). Each page, then, should use whatever currency was delineated in the original sources, with exchange info – how much it would be in 2007 Euros, say – included in parentheses for purposes of reference.

For instance, the page on Ruud van Nistelrooy says he "signed for…£19 million…." This might be written as "signed for…£19 million (28 million Euros)…." This may cause confusion, however, since the Euro didn't enter mass markets until a year later. — Scartol · Talk 14:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Fortunately, because WP depends heavily on verification and reliable sources, many times, the question of which currency to use can easily be resolved by simply using whatever convention is used in the citations and references upon which the WP article relies for substantiation.

Also, there are suggestions and guidelines posted in the various sections of the Manual of Style. Good question, HTH. dr.ef.tymac 14:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

right triangle

If the base is 26 ft. long and the height is 44 ft.. What is the length of the hypotenuse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.222.42.74 (talk) 14:03, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Hi! Have you tried the Reference Desk? We specialise in questions about how to use Wikipedia. Also, remember to do your own homework, but you may want to take a look at Pythagoras' Theorem. :-) Stwalkerster talk 14:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Google Search has a calculator: google:sqrt(26^2+44^2)= which yields 51.1077294 --Teratornis 17:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Wrong language name

In the front page and the list of the Wikipediagateway is the name of the Persian language wrongly written as "farsi". Who should I contact to correct this error.

Thanks.--Mani1 14:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

"Farsi" is not an incorrect name for the Persian language. What is the concern you have? The only place I see Farsi written out like that is at the top of the Wikipedia Gateway page, where all of the languages listed are written out with Latin characters. Leebo ^T/C 14:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Admin essay

Is there an esssay on what is expected of an admin. I know there are no official rules but just guidelines eg. "most admin candidates are expected to have 1200+ edits" etc. Please answer on my talk page, thanks--Pheonix15 14:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

For convenience, Pheonix15's talk page can be accessed here. --Mayfare 14:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Cryptographic Hash Function

Hello. I typed the following on my user page to get this cryptographic hash function. Let's say my hash string is Example.

{{User committed identity
|Example
|hash function <!-- optional: defaults to SHA-512 -->
|background= <!-- optional: HTML color -->
|border= <!-- optional: HTML color -->
|article= <!-- optional: to replace "an" with another article -->
}}

And then I have this:

Committed identity: Example

is [[hash function ]] commitment to this user's real-life identity.

What have I done wrong? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 14:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

You might want to replace

|hash function  <!-- optional: defaults to SHA-512 -->

with

|hash function= <!-- optional: defaults to SHA-512 -->

I'm afraid the documentation is wrong (the text "hash function" is actually a variable name that is assigned with "="); I've changed it to that effect. (Side note: "Example" adds a line break, however, because its value is not trimmed. I'll make an {{editprotected}} request on the template talk page to fix this.) Gracenotes^T § 14:49, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, the template may look better if you leave out the optional parameters. Try this if you're using SHA-512:

{{User committed identity|Example}}

I hope this helps, Gracenotes^T § 14:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Gracenotes. --Mayfare 20:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Links for consecutive pages

I have a title page with about 10 pages of links with many forms in each of those pages. Is there a way to set a nice looking link so I can go from one page of forms to another easily?

--Gawatkin 15:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding the question, but is this related to using Wikipedia? Leebo ^T/C 15:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, in editing the pages. --Gawatkin 15:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you provide a link to what you're referring to or explain it a little differently? Sorry for the inconvenience. Leebo ^T/C 15:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

How do I create a colored box around a title?

--Gawatkin 15:25, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

What kind of a title? On what system? --Teratornis 17:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

question about posting article

I hae recently posted an article that I wrote which is a copy of my school's history which i also wrote. I am the webmaster of the webpage in question and the sole author of its contents.What can I do to have the posting allowed. Search under "Butterfield Elementary"

I, David Pickett, am author of the web site found at http://leusd.info/bes/ also found at http://butterfieldelementary.org

http://leusd.info/bes/BESHistory/History.htm is fully of my authorship.

permission is granted for its inclusion here. DavidPickett 15:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)David Pickett

Read about the procedure in Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission. Basically you need to agree that you release your material under the GFDL (so anyone can use it, not just wikipedia) and email that release to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org. -- Diletante 15:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks to me like this may fall under the prohibition against original research, but I'll let other editors weigh in with their opinions. In general, articles need to cite reliable sources. In other words, you have to provide data about where the information in the article comes from.

However, if you're able to provide such citations, you might start a new article linked to Lake_Elsinore_Unified_School_District. — Scartol · Talk 15:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Help Regarding Disambiguation Page

I recently created a page that has the letters "QPS" in the title. I was hoping when general users typed in the search box "QPS" that it would directly link them to my newly created page. However it seems as though another page has already been created doing just this. I read about the disambiguation pages and was wondering is it possible to have both of our pages pop up as options when typing in "QPS"? Thank you for your response.

Chalker24 15:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

There are a couple options. One would be to turn QPS, which is a redirect, into a disambiguation page like you described. That page would say something like "QPS may refer to:" and then list both pages. The other options involve keeping the redirect, but adding a line at the top of the page that QPS leads to that asks if the reader is looking for the other page instead. The disambiguation page is probably preferable in this situation. Would you like me to handle it? Leebo ^T/C 15:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Leebo, before creating the disambig page, can you take a quick look at Chalker24's article, QPS Companies? Do you think it's a potential candidate for deletion? It reads a bit like an advert to me. I'm also concerned about the notability - the references seem a bit "lightweight". Or am I being too harsh? DH85868993 15:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Already created dab page. Chalker, you might want to look at that QPS Companies article more critically, as it seems a little lacking in neutrality. Are you involved with the firm? If so, please be aware of our rules on conflict of interest. --Orange Mike 15:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

At first glance, notability does not seem to be the concern, but it needs to be rewritten neutrally. Leebo ^T/C 15:54, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

notes

how can i find proper notes on merchant banking by using this site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.89.4.76 (talk) 15:43, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

The Merchant bank article is probably a good starting point. (What do you mean by "proper notes"?) DH85868993 15:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

article disappearing

I created an article, oe whatever you want to call it titled "Towamencin Township Strategic Plan". It was finished, complete, and I was just looking it over, ploshing it if necessary, and Wikipedia had some web problems, and when Wikipedia fixed their problem, I can not find my article. Can you help, or is it all lost? PS This is my first time NEW article. Ailde 16:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it was a glitch that you could not find it. It is still available at Towamencin Township Strategic Plan. Are you able to see it now? --Moonriddengirl 17:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

yes I found it, thanks for the help.

Ailde 17:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

My IP address being displayed involuntarily

No matter how many times I log in, Wikipedia randomly logs me out while I am making an edition, causing my IP address to be displayed against my wishes. I am unable to remove the stamp even after logging in. Please advise how I can delete my IP address from the History of a given article or prevent it from being displayed in the future when I am making an edition while logged in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Factcheck 4uwingnuts (talk • contribs) 16:58, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

You cannot remove your IP address from the history of changes. It appears that you have a problem with remaining logged in. Do you have any programs running that would interfere with the login process (auto-deleting cookies, hopping through proxies, etc...)? -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Or a trojan is on the computer, I had one a few weeks ago causing similar problems. -- Steve Hart 18:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Richard Perle

I was legal counsel to former Ass't Secretary of Defense Richard Perle and know him well.

I strongly advise that you contact him for corrections in your article about him. At the outset, your entry lists his name as RICHARD NORMAN PERLE. In fact, his middle name is NATHAN, not NORMAN.

There are other errors, but you should contact him directly at his home office in Chevy Chase, Maryland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.185.185 (talk) 17:03, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. You can edit almost any article on Wikipedia by just following the Edit link at the top of the page. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia content must be based on published reliable sources. Private knowledge and emails are not accepted. I get 5 Google hits on "RICHARD NATHAN PERLE" and all 5 are in German. I get a lot more hits on "RICHARD NORMAN PERLE" and most appear to be in English. PrimeHunter 17:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

That is probably from Wikipedia mirror sites. It might be best to change it to Richard N Perle in the meantime. Neil ム 08:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

How do you add an article?

how do you add an article??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrBlooby (talk • contribs) 17:23, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 17:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Title in a box

How would I edit this so it shows up in the Table of Contents?

{|border="2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4" width="100%" align="left" |align = "center" bgcolor = "#FFD1D1"|<font size = "4">Overview</font> |}<br clear="all">

--Gawatkin 17:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It is sort of possible to hack this in, but where exactly would you use this and not seriously violate the Manual of Style? --Pekaje 18:15, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

For an example of how to do it, see this. It's perfectly fine to use this kind of thing on your personal pages, but you had better have a mighty good reason to use it in an actual article. It doesn't degrade gracefully to simpler browsers (I'm a big fan of Links), and it prevents people from overriding the stylesheet. --Pekaje 18:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Finding new articles

I don't understand how this works, I created a new article

"Towamencin Township Strategic Plan". If I use the stand search that is in the left hand column of most Wikipedia pages, I don't get a hit. I sometimes find it listed when I click on the [index]. But if that doesn't work, I still have the url I saved that does take me to it. Am I missing something here? Ailde —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ailde (talk • contribs) 17:48, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how long it will take to be added to the main search results, but it can be found either by entering "Towamencin Township Strategic Plan" and hitting "Go" or by hitting "Search" and clicking the link that appears at the top that says "You searched for Towamencin Township Strategic Plan". On another note, it seems like this information is already in the Towamencin Township, Pennsylvania article. It probably does not warrant its own article; the section within the town article is sufficient. Leebo ^T/C 18:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thnks for the information. No not all the information is in the Towamencin Township, Pennsylvania article. I decided it was much too long to add it all there. If necessary, I may remove what summary info is there, and put a ref to the Towamencin Township Strategic Plan". article.

Ailde 18:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

What I mean is that the subject of the stategic plan does not merit its own article on Wikipedia. It should be a short part of the main township article. Out of curiosity, how does a book published in 1992 (which you have listed as the sole reference) contain information about the town's current strategic plan for the future? This information seems more appropriate for a town website when it contains this level of detail, and Wikipedia should not be the webhost for such information if a town-operated website does not yet exist. Leebo ^T/C 18:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, nevermind, that book was published in 1897 and republished in 1992, it's not possible for it to contain any information about modern Towamencin Township. Leebo ^T/C 19:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

This article was a collaborative effort of a committee over a five month period. The source was their collective minds and hearts. If you read the article, you will find that those committee members are listed in the article. They are the source, as the article states; “The Board of Supervisors expresses their appreciation and thanks to the residents who volunteered their time and effort in the development of this plan. The fact that there is no existing Five-Year Strategic Plan Template for a Pennsylvania township made the task that much more challenging.”

It is the hope that this article may serve as that template for other townships struggling to develop their own strategic plan, and that it will become a refrence article to Wikipedia's article "Strategic Planning".

All the source and reference information can be found in the Executive Summary of the subject article. As for the tone or style of this article, it "exists" as it is, and it is what it is. Would you rewrite Shakespeare? Thank you.

Ailde 11:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Question About NPOV-Undue Weight Policy

I have a question about the undue weight clause of NPOV. It states that “minority views can receive attention on pages specifically devoted to them—Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. But on such pages, though a view may be spelled out in great detail, it must make appropriate reference to the majority viewpoint.” What if there are verifiable majority viewpoints to refute the general theory but not all the specifics of the theory. Must you delete the minority viewpoint if it is “spelled out in great detail” and there are no verifiable majority viewpoints in existence anywhere in the world to counter the specific details point-by-point? Heelop 18:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The clause you are referring to doesn't have anything I see that refers to deleting a minority viewpoint. It is a rather convoluted way of stating that minority viewpoints should only be on pages reserved for the minority viewpoint. For example, on the Moon Landing page, you don't spend the whole page talking about Fake Moon Landing Hoax theories. Instead, you have a short paragraph mentioning that there are minority hoax theories and a link to a page specifically for them. Then, on the page for the hoax theories, you must make reference to the majority theory - explaining that the hoax theories are minority theories. This policy is in place to avoid what has happened in the past - a minority theory is explained in great detail and takes up 95% of an article, leaving 5% for the actual majority viewpoint content. -- Kainaw^(what?) 18:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Where do I go to notify you of an error?

I have been accused of being a fool, so excuse me if I missed a link in front of my face, but it should be easy to post error notices. In this case, the link under Benjamin Franklin, for poorrichardsalmanac.com / .org?? ... the link goes to a page that is not up.

Thanks, and my humblest appreciation for one of the web's greatest sites! Thanks for your part!

Luke —Preceding unsigned comment added by DalaiLuke (talk • contribs) 18:45, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

You're not a fool, and since this is the encyclopedia anyone can edit, feel free to remove the link from that section it if is invalid. Be Bold! ^Ariel♥Gold 18:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

To clarify, in the "External links" section header, on the right will be a link that says "Edit". Click on that, and the edit window will open. Be careful not to remove anything else, but the link should look something like this: *[http://poorrichardsalmanac.com texttext]. Take that line and remove it, then remove any extra space that remains, and in the bottom "Edit summary" box, type (removing invalid link) and hit "Save page" at the bottom, Ta Dahhh! You're done! ^Ariel♥Gold 18:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia site print problem

greetings!

have been trying to use print preview command with large site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Alpha_Phi_Alpha_brothers#Science

keep getting error report that closes Mozilla Foxfire site before loading for print...

am new to wikipedia and not sure how to report this problem elsewhere--can you help?

Nubra floyd 18:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

This is most likely a software (or hardware) issue on your end, and nothing relating to Wikipedia. It prints fine for me, and with longer lists, it could be hanging up on your end for some reason, either due to Firefox add-on issues, or your printer's driver, or any number of reasons. I would suggest that you check to be sure you have updated printer drivers, if you have not already, and that you've updated Firefox to the latest version, (2.0.0.6), as well as any add-ons you may be using. If you continue to have issues, the folks over at Wikipedia:Village Pump (technical) would be better able to assist you. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 19:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete user monobook.js

How do I delete my monobook.js?  Chantessy  19:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

You can ask an admin to, or you could just blank it. I would recommend the latter as it saves trouble and it does not really matter if you have a blank monobook. --Mschel 19:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Correcting a typo in the title of an article

There is a typo in the Title of my Article:

"Ray pilgrim" should read "Ray Pilgrim"

i.e. The tile of the entry is the name of a person but the typo means the surname starts with a lower case letter instead of upper case letter.

Apart from looking wrong and sloppy, it means that internal links from other pages do not work properly.

Using the "Edit this page" facility lets me change everything except the title of the article.

How can I correct the lower case letter in the title to upper case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bustric (talk • contribs) 19:49, August 29, 2007

Since your account is more than 4 days old, you can use the move function, which should appear as a tab to the right of "History". You can correct the title of the article and move the talk page as well; the old page will become a redirect to the new one. Leebo ^T/C 19:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. And I'd like to offer a couple helpful links for your future use, if you'd like to learn more: Cite your sources, Manual of style, Layout guide, First article, and Article development. Hope that helps, and have a great day! ^Ariel♥Gold 19:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

red words

What do red words mean? I could not find an explanation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.241.239 (talk) 20:33, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

They meen that there currently is not a page of that name. If a page is created with that name, the link will go blue! Dont forget to sigh your posts with ~~~~ . If you have any questions feel free to contact me :) Tiddly-Tom 20:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Placing double brackets [[like this]] around words creates a link to a page of that name. If the page exists, the link is blue, if it doesn't exist or has been deleted, it appears red. Leebo ^T/C 20:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

For full details, see WP:RED. --Teratornis 20:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Link wiktionary term to wikipedia

How do I link a wiktionary term to a Wikipedia article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FieldMarine (talk • contribs) 20:56, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

See m:Help:Interwiki linking. KTC 20:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Article Dating

I was reading the article on the United Arab Emirates, and it became clear to me that it has been some time since this article was written (years) and I was hoping to add an idea into the pool. Whenever an article is updated the username of the editor as well as the date on which they edited the article should be avaliable to whomever is reading the article. It seems likely that this information is already recorded, but is simply not visible to the reader. I think it would be helpful if the history of the article was avaliable to the reader, that way they can be more sure that the article has not been tampered with by special interest sources, as well as knowing when the last update occured. I just thought it might help bring a little respectability back to a great program. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenmistress (talk • contribs) 21:10, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

You can already see the history of any page by selecting the "history" tab at the top of any page. It's next to the "edit this page" tab for unprotected page, and "view source" tab for protected page. KTC 21:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

For more information see Help:History. One acknowledged shortcoming of MediaWiki's history function is that it lacks a blame feature, i.e., a straightforward way to identify the author of each individual line or clump of words in an article. Instead if you wanted to know exactly who had edited a particular line in an article, you would have to spend some time manually scrolling back through revision diffs in the article history until you found it. --Teratornis 01:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

AIV Notice Template

Resolved

Is there a template that can be posted at a vandal's talk page to let others know he's been reported to WP:AIV? I'm currently using {{notice}} (see [4]), but there must be an easier way to do this. --Boricuaeddie 21:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I've seen other users leave notices like this and I think they are unnecessary. The user was warned appropriately if they were reported, there's no need to say "just wait a minute, you're getting blocked as we speak." If you feel you must leave such a notice, you could consider creating a user subpage that says what you want and transcluding it. Leebo ^T/C 21:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I believe it is necessary to prevent duplicate reports to AIV and multiple Vandalism warning templates. --Boricuaeddie 21:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't really hurt anything if someone decides to post a user without checking to see if they're already reported, helper bots will remove duplicates. Also, I dislike the presumptuous nature of the message. It just seems like extra work for little benefit. Leebo ^T/C 21:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Good point. --Boricuaeddie 21:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

How the heck do you actually CREATE AN ARTICLE?????

The links saying "create your first article" tell you to "be bold" (helpful), and tell you what makes a good and bad article, but does not tell you HOW TO DO IT. I have a nice page created, but it's apparently not an article, since it's not searchable. the Help Desk said so use the article creation-thingy, but that tells you right off the bat that it's not for registered users who want to create an article. So they tell you it's easier to create articles if you register and log in; then they tell you to use the article creation tool to create articles, which tells you that it's nto for resgistered users who want to create articles. HUH?

Conflicting information?????????

Can I get some clear, "Wikipedia for Dummies" steps, like

Step 1: go here Step 2: do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.52.21 (talk) 21:29, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a registered account? You are not logged in right now. If you tell us your account, we can look at what you've created and help. Leebo ^T/C 21:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) If you're a registered user - Follow instruction at Help:Starting a new page. If you are not a registered user, either a) register and follow the instruction earlier or b) submit it to WP:AFC. KTC 21:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Deletion requested

Hi,

I just found in my message box that someone wishes to delete my article or something about list of snooker players. I'm sorry to seem ignorant, but i am not quite sure what all this means. I am not a very competent user of computers and am finding it difficult to know what to do or say about it.

I would appreciate it if someone could advise me accordingly please, in plain English. Many Thanks

Kind Regards

robbo147 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbo147 (talk • contribs) 22:07, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Responding on user's talk page. Confusing Manifestation 22:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

It basically means that they are thinking(or have acted) about removing that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desalvionjr (talk • contribs) 22:37, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

changing the header

I need to capitalize 'birndorf' in the entry 'Howard birndorf.' I don't see a way to do this.

Suzanne —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suzclancy (talk • contribs) 22:24, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Use the "move" tab at the top. PrimeHunter 22:28, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Placenames in text of articles

I think I remember seeing a guideline which specified that placenames only need be given one wider level (eg "this church is in Leeds, West Yorkshire", rather than also adding England). But I can't find this in WP:MOS or anywhere else. Is there any policy or guideline about this? PamD 22:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, no. However, I did not know West Yorkshire was in England until you stated that in the question, so I believe it might be best to leave the country in there, unless it is in a widely known city and state, say California, almost everybody knows that state is in the United States. Sorry! Jonathan (formerly Jonjonbt) 23:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Only give it as many level as is necessary to distinguish the article, one can read the article to see where <place name> is at. That mean, if there's only one with that name (like West Yorkshire), just use the name. If there's more than one, give it an extra level, and use a disamg. page on the name only article unless there's a particular place that's much better known under the name. In that case, note it as such at the top of the article, like the use of {{otheruses1|the U.S. state}} at the top of California. Remember you can always set up redirects for the name with the wider levels. KTC 06:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The Editor's index has some links which may be relevant to this question:

• Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places)
• Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)
• Wikipedia:Multiple-place names

Also be aware that there are categories for places, which further help to classify articles of this type. For example, the California article is in Category:States of the United States (among other categories); the Sacramento, California article is in Category:California (among other categories). On Wikipedia we do not have to force an entire hierarchical classification scheme in an article title because we have MediaWiki's category system to classify articles in multiple ways. --Teratornis 14:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

RSS feed

Is it possible to get an RSS feed for pages on my "watchlist," so that I am notified as soon as they are changed?

sweigumSweigum 23:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

On individual article page, yes. On the special page that is your watchlist, not as far as I know. See Wikipedia:Syndication. KTC 23:36, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

What is going on at Astrid of Sweden?

I just uploaded a new photo with the title Image:Astrid.jpg at the commons. I linked to it from the Astrid of Sweden page, but instead of showing me that picture it shows me a picture of some blonde girl. I assumed it was just a case of a Wikipedia image overriding a commons image, but then I clicked on the picture of the blonde girl, and it took me to my photo at the commons. I've cleared my cache and it's still happening. Thoughts? Calliopejen1 23:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

The history on commons suggest that's the image you uploaded. Maybe you just uploaded a different file than you thought? KTC 23:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Fixed ^Ariel♥Gold 23:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

How to search Wikipedia help

Hi Is there a way to search just the Wikipedia help pages? Thanks peterl 23:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Type what you want to search for in the search box and click "search", not "go". At the bottom of the next page, uncheck the areas you don't want and add a check next to the word "help". -- Kainaw^(what?) 23:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

You can also try a site specific Google search [5]. PrimeHunter 00:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I linked to several such searches on my user page: User:Teratornis#Useful searches. Feel free to copy and/or adapt them as you like. Note that when you search only the Help: namespace, you will miss a lot of policy and guideline pages in the Project: (i.e., Wikipedia:) namespace, as well as the Help desk archive pages. Therefore, depending on what you are looking for, you might want to try some of my other searches too. And be sure to see the Editor's index. --Teratornis 01:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

License help

I need some help with a license issue... We've got a user (User:Theeuro) who works for the ECB and as such can influence under which license the ECB releases their national euro coin face pictures, with which we've had problems a few times up to now. Under what license would they have to release it so that we can upload their pictures here on the Commons without running into any trouble? Thanks! —Nightstallion 23:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Here (as in English Wikipedia), or Wikimedia Commons? The license requirement is different. KTC 00:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#For_image_creators and commons:Commons:First steps/License selection might help? KTC 00:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a subject that has irritated me for some time. I was unable to find what I was looking for until now.

I came across this template on Wikimedia Commons. Note the template contains two links to here and here(PDF), where the reproduction of images of Euro currency is explained. Unfortunately, not all Euro coin images are in Commons and those that are might not have this template added. If a Euro coin/banknote image was uploaded to Commons and this template added, I believe the image would not run into trouble.

Administrator guys: if I'm wrong here, please explain exactly why instead of providing links to incomprehensible policy.

Astronaut 15:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

August 30

Image at commons overwrites?

Image:William Gibson by FredArmitage.jpg was fine until today, when someone mistakenly uploaded it to commons, whereupon it got tagged for speedy deletion (as it's creative commons non-com/noderiv licenced). I just want to confirm that the local image will still be here once the commons image is deleted? Or does it need to somehow get "transfered back" via a request somewhere? Thanks. (tangential thread about its licencing here, at Talk:William Gibson#Gibson photo licence) --Quiddity 00:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It won't be here, as the one here was deleted at 20:58, 29 August 2007 by Quadell [6] for precisely the same reason it's tagged under on Commons, namely WP:CSD#I3. KTC 01:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Changing page title?

How do I change the Exile Parade wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_parade) to a capital P in Parade instead of a lower case p?

--Wazzalad 01:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Instructions are in: WP:MOVE. --Teratornis 01:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

how do you create the box bands wiki pages have??

Like this one on right handside with the photo for example - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasabian. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wazzalad (talk • contribs) 01:22, August 30, 2007 (UTC) --Wazzalad 01:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

That's called an infobox template. See: Help:Template, Wikipedia:Infobox templates, Help:Infobox, Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes), Category:Infobox templates, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes. What article do you want to add an infobox to? --Teratornis 01:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

cheers mate, will look it up. I want to add it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_parade --Wazzalad 01:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I see you added an {{Infobox musical artist}} to Exile Parade. It's great that on Wikipedia we can learn by examining the wikitext of existing articles (such as Kasabian) and copy the nice bits to new articles. May I suggest that you type an edit summary each time you edit a page, so other editors can easily tell what you did when they view the history of the page. Thanks. You might also look at WP:MUSIC so you can be sure Exile Parade meets Wikipedia's notability requirements for musician articles (by properly asserting the notability of the subject). I'm just trying to keep you safe from the deletionists. --Teratornis 04:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

notable omissions

I know there is a lot of great that came with the creation of wikipedia along with some expected and unexcepted negative consequences. There has been a lot of discussion about staff members of elected officials editing portions of their candidate biography. But my concern is that of a certain number of conservative activists/cheerleaders whose major mistakes, all of a sudden, are not in their wikipedia entries. Number 1 is Sean Hannity. While he started his gig on a NYC radio station, a cop was accused of sodemizing an African immigrant over and over and over again. Sean defended this cop constantly so much as to have the officers' father on air defending him. Sean went as far as to say "this guy is fruitcake who enjoyed anal sex" or something to that extent. Numerous sources have this on record. This was on wikipedia last year. All of the sudden, it's not there. However, that police officer did admit guilty to brutally assualting that man. WTF?!! Number 2 is Ted Nugent. He admitted in a newspaper interview that he purposely did not shower, bath or use the restroom for over a month in order to dodge the Vietnam War. All of the sudden, this admission of cowardly refusing your country's service is also erased from Wikipedia. Why? or better yet, How?

`01:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)~

If you have a reputable source that makes those claims, feel free to add the information (with the reference) to the article. However, keep the topic of the article in mind. For example, the Sean Hannity article is about all of Sean Hannity, not one incident in his entire life. A common mistake is to write up a 3,000 word essay on a single controversial event, obscuring the subject matter of the overall article. That will be reverted, not because it is untrue or unsourced, but because it simply does not belong. -- Kainaw^(what?) 03:08, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has many articles that are specifically about Scandals. Such articles may be somewhat less susceptible to the "it does not belong" argument, because scandalous material clearly does belong in an article which is about a scandal. Follow the links from the Scandal article to see examples of articles about political scandals, religious scandals, etc. Also see Draft dodger. Wikipedia has lots of articles about unseemly behavior. --Teratornis 04:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Finding target word in article

I was looking for the meaning of the word "istle" (crossword entry)in Wikipedia. The search produced only four sources, one of which was "Madonna". This is a rather long article. I read it twice carefully and have not been able to find any reference whatsoever to "istle". Why would the Madonna site be listed as a source for this word? And if it is there, how come it is not highlighted? Many thanks. Richard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.60.250 (talk) 01:52, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

There is a link to "whistleass.typepad.com/boot_george_in_2004/2004/01/madonna_support.html" on the page (click "edit this page" to see it easily. -- Kainaw^(what?) 03:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) The search function on Wikipedia quite frankly sucks. It probably noticed a word that had those five letters in that order and thought it's what you were looking for. In any case, the search function isn't set up to highlight your search terms in the article. If you're looking for a definition, though, you're better off using Wiktionary, which doubles as a dictionary and thesaurus. It doesn't look as though they have a page on that word, however. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Try: google:istle for which the top search result says:

• a strong fiber (as for cordage or basketwork) obtained from various tropical American plants (as an agave).

And of course we have articles on fiber, cordage, basket, and agave, none of which apparently (yet) mention the word "istle." However, you could fix that. Having Google Search is like being a genius. --Teratornis 04:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia search is based on the source of the page so a search term may only be visible by clicking edit. Your browser probably has a feature to search and highlight a string in the displayed page. PrimeHunter 10:07, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

ice and life

if ice did not sank, there woulb be no life on earth today. pls. explain why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyomxxx (talk • contribs) 03:05, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your question, but it sounds like you're looking for the reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions, e're only here to help you use the site. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually if ice did not float, the oceans could freeze to the bottom in the polar regions, and that would cause some serious problems for animals that live in the area. "Life" could certainly still exist on earth, for example the toughest forms of life (bacteria and so on) can tolerate very harsh environments, but a lot of multicellular eukaryotes would find their environments seriously disrupted if ice was denser than water (which is the normal behavior for most materials that have a liquid phase and a solid phase - the solid phase is typically denser than the liquid phase). For more information see: Deep lake water cooling, Ice#Characteristics, Lake#Characteristics, and Water (molecule)#Density of water and ice. --Teratornis 04:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Deleted edit count

I believe I saw a tool once that counts how many deleted edits a user has. I can't remember for the life of me where I saw it. I have three questions 1) does this actually exist or did I make it up? 2) If so, where do I find it? 3) How does it work? How does it now how many deleted edits I have? --JayHenry 06:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Have a look at the list of edit counters at WP:COUNT. And yes, Editcountitis is not healthy. ;) In your case [7]. KTC 06:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

That's the one! Does anyone know the answer to 3? This is the part I'm most interested in. How is it able to find deleted edits? --JayHenry 15:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

globle earth

I would like to how to get the globle earth moveing to view my home town —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.36.32.25 (talk) 06:18, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

This is a question for the reference desk - please ask there! Neil ム 08:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Having difficulty With what to put on my site

I have read the licence several times, but am still uncertain what needs to go into the article, the more I read the less I understand it.

I have put an article on my web site (Still under contstruction)

[8]

I have put the GNU Licence in thats fine.

But what do I put in for the copyrite notice? Is it that whole page full of links that is mentioned at the bottom of the article page?

And where and what is the licence notice?

And what do I put on my creative commons pictures.

If anyone can break it down to you put this this and this in that would be great. (sorry the links are currently an odd colour)

Wiki About Myself

--Silverearth 07:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)Can I create a wiki page of myself?--Silverearth 07:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Usually that's a page you should avoid creating for two reasons. 1. Wikipedia has notability guidelines and each subject must demonstrate a sufficient enough notability. 2. Subjects are often discouraged to start an article about themselves due to the possibility of conflicts of interest. However, you can create a userpage about yourself. This can be done at User:Silverearth (see WP:USERPAGE for more details as far as what is allowed on your userpage).¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 07:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Unclear Deletion of Sonic Belligeranza records

I don't uderstand the reason of this deletion, I wrote the text in similarity of all the others about breakcore records labels, can somebody tell me what's the problem? Below details of the deletion:

10:36, 29 August 2007 Hu12 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Sonic Belligeranza records" ‎ (WP:CSD#A7 content was: 'Sonic Belligeranza is an indipendent record label based in Bologna, Italy. It was started in the year 2000 by dj Balli and since then has released, al...' (and the only contributor was '[[Special:Contributions/Scaphandre|Scapha)

A7 is a deletion because it was an "unremarkable people, place, organization, etc", so in essance it was deleted because it is belived that the articles subject is not notable enough.---Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 08:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright issues

Right, um, I'm aware of Wikipedia:Copyright problems but that only seems to be dealing with copyright issues where Wikipedia has copyrighted text that needs to be deleted: What about the other way around, where a website is using Wikipedia's contents verbatim and copyrighting it as its own? Where should this be brought to attention? Here, or is there another noticeboard, or at Copyright problems anyway? Thanks. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 09:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Have you taken a look at Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content? --Silver Edge 09:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I had, yes; but I actually found what I was looking for: Wikipedia:Standard GFDL violation letter. Thanks all the same! :) (Although I do find it somewhat ironic that I'll basically be copy and pasting something as a warning over someone copy and pasting something... Heh.) AllynJ (talk | contribs) 10:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

accounting

what is store accounting —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.79.237 (talk) 09:14, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

You should ask this at the reference desk - this page is for help using/editing Wikipedia. Kevin 12:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

How can I insert language link?

Hello! I have created a Russian translation of English encyclopedia article, how can I insert a language link to the English page to let know that there is a Russian translation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.253.76.106 (talk) 10:20, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Insert [[ru:article name here]] in to the English article. --Silver Edge 10:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

edit dispute -- where do I post?

I want to resolve an edit dispute before it gets out of hand. However, navigating through the Village Pump and its pages on dispute resolution and getting a third opinion is a nightmare! I end up going in loops; I can find pages that outline policy, but I can't find where to actually post the issue. Can somebody please provide me with the direct link? (I'm asking for the direct link because I'm afraid if you just refer me to a topic, I'm going to end up in the same navigation loop as before.) Minaker 11:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to add some policy, too, just for the benefit of other readers. :) Wikipedia:Dispute resolution is the place to start with this. It lays out the general steps for processing these kinds of situations. If it is a dispute between you and one other editor, you might start it at Third opinion. It's a good idea to read that page and its directions before requesting a third opinion here, at the direct link. If it's a more general dispute between a larger group of people, you take it to Requests for comment. You follow the instructions found here for articles, by placing the template directly on the article's talk page. Does that help? --Moonriddengirl 11:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Not really. I've read up on the policies and was just very confused as to how to navigate to the actual posting page. That's why I wanted the direct link. From what I understand, there is a place to post comments on SPECIFIC edit disputes rather than general policy on the subject, and a place to post requests for third opinions. Your link sent me to a new page I'd be starting; surely I'm not the first person to post about an edit dispute or request a third person, so I'm not sure if that link is actually sending me to the right place. Minaker 11:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't give you the direct link for the Wikipedia:Requests for comment, because the template is placed directly on the talk page of the article. I know it seems peculiar that the Third opinion option requires starting a new section (I thought I had mislinked it at first because it was redlinked), but that is the link provided on the policy page. In your position, I'd give it a shot and see what happens and report back here if it doesn't work. --Moonriddengirl 11:55, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Moony!  :) Minaker 11:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I hope it works out. --Moonriddengirl 12:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, here is the right link. Don't use the redlink above. An easy mistake: The right link creates a new section in Wikipedia:Third opinion, so the edit page says "Editing Wikipedia:Third opinion (section)". The redlink by Moonriddengirl would create a new page called "Wikipedia:Third opinion (section)". PrimeHunter 13:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out! I arrived at that link by clicking on the "add your dispute here" button. Any idea what I did wrong in formatting my response? Did I just need to include the entire URL? Obviously I don't want to do it incorrectly again. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I clicked the link "add your dispute here" at Wikipedia:Third opinion#Active disagreements, and then copied the exact URL http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Third_opinion&action=edit&section=2&editintro=Wikipedia%3AThird+opinion%2FInstructions from the browser address bar. You must have seen the headline "Editing Wikipedia:Third opinion (section)" and then copied the text "Wikipedia:Third opinion (section)" to a piped link. That would have worked if the page had been Wikipedia:Third opinion (section). Clicking that redlink gives the exact same headline and font "Editing Wikipedia:Third opinion (section)", but in the latter case the URL is different and " (section)" is part of the page name. Maybe the developers should have written " (section)" in a different way when it indicates that a section is being edited and not that the page name ends with " (section)". I wonder whether anybody has accidentally created a page with a name ending in " (section)". Pentanthera (section) is not an accident. Editing a section of that article gives headline "Editing Pentanthera (section) (section)" [9]. PrimeHunter 16:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll be careful of piped links in the future. --Moonriddengirl 16:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Janu86 (section) must have been accidentally created by Janu86 in an attempt to edit a section of User:Janu86 which was created the same day. The edit pages [10] and [11] have the same heading "Editing User:Janu86 (section)" but edit different pages. PrimeHunter 18:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

log in issue

Hi, I tried to create an account but used my web address as my user name(Www.cutmycarbon.biz)- note the capital W at the start. I think this has caused an issue as I cannot use Wikipedia. Can you help me sort this. Jonny

82.43.144.99 12:11, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Your username was blocked because it does not comply with the username policy. You should probably select something less like a web address. Kevin 12:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

A 2nd log in issue

If I log in as Ryan 1729, I get the successful login screen, but then if I go into any other page I am no longer signed in. Running Firefox on WinXP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.81 (talk) 12:38, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Make sure your browser is set up to accept cookies. If it is, click the "Remember me" button and see if that helps. If it doesn't, try clearing your cache (CTRL+SHIFT+R) when you notice you're not logged in. If THAT won't work, it might be a problem with your internet access, so try using the secure login. If it still isn't working after all that, check here to see if I missed anything, and then try that or file a bug report on bugzilla. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 13:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Naming articles

Hi, Could someone please direct me to wikipedia rules on naming an article. That is, what are the policies for choosing an article title? Thanks 3meandEr 12:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions -- Kainaw^(what?) 12:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Help with pic

hey the article on Alfonso Ribiero needs a picture. i found a good one but i need copyright status help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carlton.jpg i included a link to where i found it when you get to the picture The juggreserection 13:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It shows right on the article you pulled it from that the copyright is held by BPI. Did you get BPI's permission to use this photo in the public domain? If not, it must be removed from Wikipedia. -- Kainaw^(what?) 13:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

No i didnt. go ahead and pull it if you must. Sorry i cant understand this copyright stuff very much. The juggreserection 13:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding photos and updating the STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER PAGE

Hello I was just writing in concern to the Staffie page. I am a breeder and owner of many staffies. I want to add pictures of staffies in the show ring at an american kennel club event (AKC). And I also wanted to update and correct some of the comments on the page.. only a select few were miscontrued or incorrect. Thanks ~~burkeza~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkeza (talk • contribs) 13:52, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Is your question that you would like help or advice on the specifics? I could help you on your talk page or the article's talk page if you'd like. Leebo ^T/C 13:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

CONT~ STAFFIE PAGE

I forgot to ask. How do I add pictures? and they are my own pictures so they are not copyrighted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burkeza (talk • contribs) 13:54, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, go to Wikipedia:Upload to upload the pictures to Wikipedia. Then Wikipedia:Images shows you how to add the picture to an article. Raven4x4x 13:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Be sure to pick the correct licensing when uploading your image. Some Wikipedians are pretty hot on licensing and copyright problems. Your image could be speedily deleted if it is identified as a copyright violation or if the licensing information is missing. Astronaut 14:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

How To Make A Page

A want to make a new page on for instance Maxime Foerste but I am not sure how to. Can you help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.101.50 (talk) 14:52, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page if you have an account, or is willing to register one. Go to WP:AFC if not. KTC 14:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Be aware, however, that this obscure German actress would probably fail to meet our standards of notability for the English Wikipedia. --Orange Mike 15:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

SHE IS NOT OBSCURE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Be wary of systemic bias. If the actress is notable enough, then she should be notable enough on any language specific encyclopedia project. KTC 15:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Why is Wikipedia being trimmed?

I've noticed recently that several articles that used to exist no longer do and many others have been drastically shortened. Is there a space shortage on Wikipedia? I understand removing superfluous information, but much of the information that has been removed is useful and difficult to find elsewhere. I've been looking for information about this trend, but my searches have come up useless. Could you please point me in the direction of any articles discussing the merits of a complete Wikipedia vs a concise Wikipedia? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.70.99 (talk) 14:59, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Information that cannot be found elsewhere should be removed. Wikipedia is not a source for unique information. It is a source of referenced material. Therefore, everything on Wikipedia should be readily available elsewhere. -- Kainaw^(what?) 15:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict)For deleted articles, see WP:WWMAD and WP:DP. In terms of shortened articles, it's entirely possible that the material of split off into a separate page of its own from the original after it got too long. KTC 15:02, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Could we get some examples? Articles which are advertisement, for example, are deleted every day. --Orange Mike 15:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't specify an editorial of the type you're asking for, but I will note that Wikipedia is constantly being trimmed (and expanded :)), often because information included is not Wikipedia:Verifiable or because pages do not meet criteria for inclusion. (See also What Wikipedia is not for inclusion limitations both on entire articles and sections within them.) Some articles are trimmed because they challenge article size guidelines--not so much over technical issues as issues of readability. --Moonriddengirl 15:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, much thanks. While checking examples I did a bit more searching and found that some of the info was indeed split from the main article while others have referenced links that can help point to the info. Thanks, too, for the pointer to the sizing guidelines. I think it's more or less what I'm looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.70.99 (talk) 15:12, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

RFA notice

Resolved

Can you assist me in modifying my RFA notice at User:TonyTheTiger/Header template —Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 15:11, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

I need it to go to the RFA3.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The template reads the title of the page (and presumes it's on your user page) to create the link. The only solution I see is putting it on your user page, unless you change the template. Leebo ^T/C 15:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. KTC 15:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Creating a new article

How do I create an entirely new article in wikipedia? Meanmug64 15:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Read 3 sections up from this one. KTC 15:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

How to Add

How do you add images to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 15:50, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Contents/Images and media. KTC 15:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering.

Can you and how can advertise that your Wikipedia pages needs picutes or more information. For instance Maxime Foerste needs ,ore information and pictures, is there a way to advertise that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 16:17, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template messages/Talk namespace#Expansion requests has the details. Best. --Old Moonraker 16:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Power transformers question

hello, i want information regarding some betterment in performance of power transformers so that i could make thesis on it for my masters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.62.98.31 (talk) 17:14, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you could try reading the article on transformers or asking at one of the reference desks. This page is for help with using Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 17:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Links

Is there a way to make a link to an edit page not show as external? I notice in the {{expand}} template, it links to the pages edit page without showing as external, but when I try to replicate it, I cannot get in to show as an internal link. LARA♥LOVE 17:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not showing it as an internal link, it's just not showing the little arrow icon next to the link. It's still a lighter shade of blue like all external links. Also, that's not actually a full URL, it's a templated edit action, so it must be slightly different than a standard link. Leebo ^T/C 17:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Use <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.example.com example-name]</span> when formatting your link. --69.118.235.97 17:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so how do I hide the arrow? LARA♥LOVE 17:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

If you use the above formatting it will come out like this, example-name, no arrow to hide.--69.118.235.97 17:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, the template wraps everything in a div with the class set to plainlinks - which is why the arrow doesn't show up. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

(ec) Ah, okay, that worked great! Thanks!! LARA♥LOVE 17:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

On a different note, 69.118.235.97, if you're the same user who asked on User talk:69.118.235.97 about the orange new-messages bar, you may want to look at bugzilla:9213; something's gone wrong with the software and it's accting oddly for IPs at the moment. (Nobody seems to know for certain what's causing the bug at present, which is why it hasn't been fixed.) --ais523 18:15, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, however I've already learned about Bug 9213, and yes, I am the same user.--69.118.235.97 18:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Update It took 5 months to finally show up, but now the new messages bar won't go away ): 69.118.235.97 19:29, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Update II: it finally went away. 30 minutes seems to be the magic number, or maybe there's no rationale behind it at all, and the bug just affects different people in random ways?!--69.118.235.97 20:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wallpaper

Hi,

Is there any kind of "wallpaper" available to put on a User Page ? I'd like something with flowers.

Thanks,

Vonita 19:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a "wallpaper", but you might be able to get something to work with HTML coding. Try looking at User:The Transhumanist/User page design and Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help for ideas. Leebo ^T/C 19:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikiprojects

How do you participate in a Wikiproject?Alex Rossi 19:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Just start working on it. If there is a name list on the project page, just add your name to it, and then start working. :-) Stwalkerster talk 19:35, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

SciFi, Time Travel books

Hi,

How do I narrow down my search for science fiction books that deal only with time travel? What I see now is a list of alphabetical listings for science fiction.

Thank you.

208.127.78.28 19:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Go to the article Time travel in fiction. --Orange Mike 19:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC) (and please, don't call science fiction "sci fi"!)

Sci-fi is a common abbreviation. Or were you just asking him to supplant his preference with yours? Leebo ^T/C 20:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Most active members of the science fiction community consider that other term demeaning, and eschew its use other than as a derogatory for bad films and television. --Orange Mike 20:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

As a fellow geek, I'll say true enough, but we also have to understand that the wider community does not adopt that standard. :) --Moonriddengirl 21:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly enough, this is actually briefly summarized in the article. Good thing my interest in science fiction is not intense enough that I would be upset to see sci-fi used for the sake of brevity :) Leebo ^T/C 21:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Moving pictures to commons

What is the best way to move Image:TrumpTowerChicago 07 29 07.jpg Image:20070221 Trump Chicago at Night.JPG Image:TrumpTower92906.jpg to [12]?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:59, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, to be moved to the Commons, they have to be used in some Wikimedia project. Unless it's added to an article, it can't be uploaded to the Commons. --Boricuaeddie 20:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Erm, nope? commons:Commons:Project scope#Wikimedia Commons is a common central media repository of all Wikimedia projects & commons:Commons:FAQ#Questions about the project would suggest "files uploaded to the Commons have to be useful for some Wikimedia project". That is not the same as saying it has to be in use already. KTC 21:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

O.K. so how do I do most easily?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons. WODUP 22:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Community Wikipedia

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am a user of Wikipedia from Singapore. My query is more on the note of whether we can use wikipedia for a community. I am a part of a community of 100 others who would find wikipedia useful to put up articles with relation to learnings and discussions about the same( similar to a community black book). While we are open to leaving these articles up on wikipedia for anyone to view, we would like to have control on the changes the users can make on these articles. Could wikipedia help us with this? If not, what would you suggest to be the next best option?

Thanks in advance! Regards Rohan 21:25, 30 August 2007 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.7 (talk)

The software which is used to present and edit Wikipedia is available under a free license; it is called MediaWiki. You can run your own copy of the MediaWiki software on your own servers, and have as much control as you like over who can add content, delete pages, and read the information that is posted. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 21:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for asking first. Wikipedia should not be used for your purpose. Subjects of pages must satisfy Wikipedia:Notability and other rules, and nobody owns a Wikipedia page. Everybody can edit it. You will have to find another website that allows your purpose, for example one of the many wikis listed at list of wikis or http://wikiindex.org. Or set up your own website. PrimeHunter 21:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

There is for example a wikiindex:Category:Community with a number of (you guessed it) community wikis. And see: wikibooks:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. --Teratornis 03:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Contents disappeared

I made a minor change to the article "Mannheim" (a city in Germany). Now the contents of this article has disappeared completely. --PPWen 21:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I can't tell what happened. The page was blank for me, too, so I made a null edit (that is, I hit 'edit this page', and then just saved the same text without making any changes). I'm guess that there was some sort of caching problem or a hiccup in the database. In any case, the material is back again. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 21:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

TenOfAllTrades, your edit was not made, as there were no changes. I however, reverted to an earlier revision, which has restored it. I have no idea what caused this. I have also re-made PPWen's edit, and it still seems fine. As I said, I have no idea what caused this. :-) Stwalkerster talk 21:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I have both seen Mannheim being blank and normal, and both situations both before and after your edit during a period with no edits. I don't know what is going on. Could it be one of the used templates being vandalised and reverted? PrimeHunter 21:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

It's discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Article not displaying properly. It appears something in Template:Infobox German Location causes pages using it to be blank some of the time. PrimeHunter 22:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

New user of en.wikipedia from it.wikipedia

Why in it.wikipedia there is the push-button "sposta" (to move to) in top of the pages with the others "Voce" ("Articles"), "Discussione" ("Discussion"), "Modifica" ("Edit this page"), "Cronologia" ("History"), "Sposta" (ther'isnt this) and "Segui" ("Watch") and in en.wikipedia there isn't? --Noname-en 22:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

There is. The issue is you need to have an account that's at least 5 4 days old. KTC 22:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Merging and moving pages. KTC 22:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

August 31

to see the real pictures of earth on the wikipediasite

I live in Canada and I want to see pictures of my home in my country of Origin (India),please send me the linkhow can i see ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.74.238 (talk) 00:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You may wish to try Google Earth. If that doesn't help, you could ask at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous‎ for that, this forum is for general questions about how to use Wikipedia. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 00:23, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Also see WP:EITW#Maps. Many articles on Wikipedia have geographic coordinates that you can click on to see a page of links to various map sites, which may or may not display maps of the corresponding area. Most of the map sites have best coverage in North America and Europe. But you could try looking up your home town or state in Category:India and see where the coordinate links take you. Also see Wikipedia:WikiProject India and wikiindex:Category:Maps. --Teratornis 03:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Who is Orange Mike

Who is Orange Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.153.231 (talk) 00:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia editor Orangemike has a signature that says "Orange Mike". PrimeHunter 00:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

He's just this guy, you know. Why do you ask? --Orange Mike 00:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

trying to correct the Blackie Dammett page

as the person in question i tried to correct the filmography making many additions and one deletion and looked at the preview and then it disappeared?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirt260 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello Dirt260, and welcome! If you are indeed, Blackie Dammett, then I would strongly suggest that you thoroughly review the conflict of interest policy, and instead of editing the article directly, use the article's talk page to discuss things you think are incorrect, or things you'd like to see added (always giving reliable sources to back up the issues.) In addition, you may wish to review the biography of living persons policy. However, to answer your question, unless you were using another username, you have made no edits. Perhaps you merely previewed, and did not save. I'm sure that there are people who would be more than happy to review any information you have, review the references to verify it, and then properly cite it in the article for you, just post it on the talk page. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 01:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

fonts for viewing latin wiki

In looking at the Latin vikipaedia my browser did not display some of the fonts there. What can I download or do so that I can read all of the special characters that otherwise just display as an empty rectangle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.210.197 (talk) 01:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Get Firefox. --Boricuaeddie 01:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Install or enable the relevant font on your system. KTC 02:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The html details for Wikipedia

I am using a RTCX-346 Dell Computer, with a large motherboard (Model:83733EAK), would this be compatiable with Wikipedias html layout? My font is Ariel Black (in the longrun) and so far there is no consistency with the pages that Wikipedia displays. Thanks! --Schoolereichen 02:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Your hardware have absolutely nothing to do with how it render webpages. Get a modern and up to date web browser and you'll be fine. KTC 02:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Article not displaying

Could someone else take a look at g-force? I see "Your continued donations keep Wikipedia running!" and then a completely blank page -- nothing else at all. All other articles seem to display fine. I'm using IE 7. Does anyone else get this problem or is it just me? Matt 02:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The page itself is fine, it's Wikipedia that's playing up. Just be patient if it's affecting you, try reloading etc. I'm sure it'd be sorted out ASAP. KTC 02:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes it's OK for me now. I'm well used to Wikipedia being slow and sticky, but I've not seen that particular page-specific manifestation before, so I thought it was something else. Thanks, Matt 03:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.247.59 (talk)

(Pure speculation) The server responded enough that your browser doesn't display the timeout or no response or whatever page. The browser had enough to start rendering but didn't get any of the rest of the page to display or it times out waiting for the rest. KTC 03:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Inaccurate reference title which ridicules the source author

To Whom It May Concern:

The reference list for the article entitled "Catholic" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic) contains a severe inaccuracy that also ridicules the name of the source author. I am attempting to correct the error by removing the inaccuracy and inserting the author's properly spelled name but I do not see how to access that portion of the article. Could you please instruct me or make the correction yourself? The error is as follows:

"References

^ J. H. Srawley (1900). Ignatius Epistle to the Smyrnaeans. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Catechetical Lecture 18 (Ezekiel xxxvii). Trinity Consulting. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Paul Halsall (June 1997). Banning of Other Religions Theodosian Code XVI.i.2. Internet Medieval Sourcebook. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. --->^ Augustine of Hippopotamus (397). Against the Epistle of Manichaeus called Fundamental. Christian Classics Ethereal Library. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Pope Pius IX; Vatican (1870-04-24). First Vatican Council – Session 3: Dogmatic constitution on the Catholic faith. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Nicene Creed. The Lutheran Church, Missouri Synod. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Nicene Creed. Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Retrieved on 2007-06-24. ^ Nicene Creed. International Lutheran Fellowship. Retrieved on 2007-06-24."

Augustine of Hippopotamus (397). <--- this is an obvious and gross error in the author's name. His actual name is Augustine of Hippo-Regius, which in English is usually shortened to Augustine of Hippo, Hippo-Regius being the full name of the ancient Northern African city where Augustine died.

Also, his name should include the title of Saint for the sake of accuracy since he was declared a Saint (as well as Doctor of the Church) by the Catholic Church and he is most commonly referred to as Saint Augustine of Hippo (also abreviated to St. Augustine of Hippo).

Please see the following websites to verify the accuracy of my statements :

1. Sant'Agostino- Augustinus Hipponensis: http://www.sant-agostino.it/index.htm 2. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/augustine/ 3. Saint Augustine - Encyclopaedia Britannica: http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9109388/Saint-Augustine

Thank you very much.

SIncerely, VGC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.20.61 (talk) 04:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've changed it to "Augustine of Hippo". (I chose just "Augustine of Hippo" rather than "St Augustine" or "St Augustine of Hippo" on the basis that that's the name of his article). Thanks for pointing it out. DH85868993 07:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Text in footnotes are found between <ref> and </ref> inside the main body of text. The footnotes are generated automatically from those. --h2g2bob (talk) 12:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

New article that has been deleted multiple times already

I intended to make a new redirect, but it appears the page was created and deleted 6 times already. I personally think the term is notable enough to deserve a page, especially since similarly pejorative variations of common internet terms/abbreviations have redirects or are included on disambig pages. For example, "noob" redirects to "newbie" and "lawl" redirects to "LOL". For those who don't know, "plox" is derisive form of "please" used to mock or disparage those who use "pls" or "plz" excessively in online chats. I don't want my redirect to be deleted immediately after creation, but many wiki admins appear to be delete-happy, especially when a precedent for the subject has already been established. However, I can't see what previous incarnations of the page contained, so I can't know if my page will simply be a repeat of something that has already happened. How do I proceed? D-Fluff has had E-Nuff 05:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Where did you intend redirecting it to? Kevin 08:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Presumably list of internet slang phrases. The procedure would be to add "plox" to that list, providing a nice reliable source, and then to create the redirect. If you can't find a reliable source, then it can't be discussed in wikipedia, so a redirect is not appropriate. Kappa 09:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well I would redirect plox to please, much in the same manner as noob and lawl currently redirect to newbie and LOL respectively. There are other examples of internet terms redirecting to their more standard equivalents as well, but unfortunately I can't think of any off the top of my head. I suppose redirecting it to the list of internet slang would be acceptable as well if that's what the community prefers. However, I don't know exactly how to find a reliable source by the policy definition. Internet slang is really just a collection of language nuances and is inherently ephemeral. It takes time for such terminology to be integrated into mainstream sources, which in these cases appears to simply be lists of slang on reputatable websites and online dictionaries. However, right now, plox is indeed being used in online games, chats and forums, and is considered by many in these circles to be common knowledge. Urban Dictionary has a page regarding plox, but I doubt that counts as a legitimate source. Encyclopedia Dramatica also references plox, but I am sure that doesn't count as a legitimate source. I could find a bunch of forums posts showing its usage, but again these fail the policy. So I would imagine this means the article is a no-go? Wikipedia is content to have an incomplete index and be "behind the times" in a manner of speaking? D-Fluff has had E-Nuff 17:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Basically yes, wikipedia has to be "behind the times" because it is not a primary source. One good reason for this is that it isn't always kept up to date so it handles "inherently ephemeral" things very badly. Also remember that wikipedia is not a dictionary, so "please" doesn't actually define the word, it just points to a variety of things called "please". The most appropriate wikimedia project for this might be wiktionary but I'm not sure what their attitude to a word which is only found on internet forums would be. Kappa 06:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, that's what I get for trying to contribute. Thanks for the input. D-Fluff has had E-Nuff 00:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Publishing in other language

How to publish a page in other languages?For example if I have contents in English How I can publish the page in Hindi and Tamil which will be listed at the othe languages box in the side pan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SunderKV (talk • contribs) 06:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If the article exists on that other Wikipedia, eg. Tamil or Hindi, then to add a link in the sidebar you edit the article (usually at the very end, for stylistic reasons), and add a link in the form [[lc:title]], where "lc" is the two letter language code (see m:List of Wikipedias for the full list), and "title" is the title of the article in that language.

If the article isn't on the other Wikipedia, then you'll have to be bold and write it. Confusing Manifestation 07:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Interlanguage links for complete instructions. See this page for an example. The language code for Hindi is hi, the code for Tamil is ta.--Max Talk (+) 07:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Create an article

I am a registered user . How to create an aricle in wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.127.107 (talk) 07:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

See Starting a new page and Your first article. x42bn6 Talk Mess 07:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

about BRIAN LARA GAME DOWNLOADING

DEAR SIR,

I AM WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS GAME DOWNLOAD ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.77.195.219 (talk) 08:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We are an encyclopedia, not a PC game. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 09:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

New entry

Am I dumb? I can't figure out how to contribute a completely new entry. Help. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Auntyjo (talk • contribs) 10:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Auntyjo. See Help:Starting a new page. Neil ム 10:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

simplex

what is big-m method,give its step to solve problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.11.2 (talk) 11:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions about Wikipedia. You may want to try the Math Reference Desk -- Kainaw^(what?) 11:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hide/show menus

Someone the menus in my userpages have stopped to load in the default hidden manner I coded them for originally. I think this changed because someone changed the code for it. Can someone help me fix it or point me to the appropriate page for details? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

DNS stuff

The Special:Contributions page for an anonymous user, identified by the user's numerical IP address, contains at the bottom a link labelled "WHOIS" (and some other links) that lead to dnsstuff.com (as, for example, on Special:Contributions/24.15.28.218). These links stopped working for me; I now get a message "This type of DNSstuff tool access requires DNSstuff membership. If you would like to do any of the following, please join us for just $3/mo". They offer a limited number of free lookups that would soon be exhausted. Is there a way around this without paying $$?  --Lambiam 11:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You can sometimes get an idea from traceroute. --h2g2bob (talk) 12:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

about nano tech

Bold textwhat is nano tech

what should i study to be nano tech

i am a diploma mechanical student

where should i study

what should be my marks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.84.139 (talk) 12:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Ask at the science reference desk. --h2g2bob (talk) 12:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Number of system messages

What is the total number of system messages? I think they are more than 2000 but how many exactly? Thanks. --196.202.91.155 12:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a strange thing to ask. If you really want to know can't you just count them all up yourself? ::Manors:: 15:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

371 that have been customized, and 1813 at their default values, for a total of 2184. --ais523 16:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much, ais523. You're the best! --196.218.135.199 13:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Who is Orange Mike

Who is orange Mike and why does he have a page about himself. I relise that he is a editor but that is not fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 12:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:User page. As for your other question, I believe Orange Mike's user page covers that amply. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've seen new users confused by user pages before, especially when it's a new user trying to create a page about their non-notable band or something. I guess I should put the user page tag on my page just to be extra clear. Leebo ^T/C 13:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I think they're probably a good idea. I've got one on mine, even though so far as I know nobody ever asked. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, so I slapped one on mine (but down at the bottom, as I think they're butt-ugly). --Orange Mike 13:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

What is that supose to mean!?! and can I basic person like me create a user lookup page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You already have one at User:GoogleandYahoo. Mike has one at User:Orangemike, and I have one at User:Kesh. Every user gets a userpage, separate from the main Wikipedia articles. You can always tell a page isn't one of the actual Wikipedia articles if it has a name in front of it with a colon, like here at Wikipedia:Help desk or Help:Categories. -- Kesh 15:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Zig Ziglar

Hello, One of our customers brought it to our attention that the official site Wikipedia has listed under Ziglar Training Systems is a site in Korean and it is definitely not our official site. Our official website is www.ziglar.com and our company name has actually changed to just Ziglar. Another FAQ that is incorrect would be Zig's Sunday school class. He no longer teaches his own class, however, he is the host for the Encourager's Class at Prestonwood Baptist. If you need to verify this information or contact me please call 1.800.527.0306 and ask for Katherine Witmeyer or you may call me direct at 972.383.3235. Our office is located at: 15303 Dallas Parkway Suite 550 Addison, TX 75001 We appreciate your attention to this matter,

Katherine Witmeyer Project Coordinator kwitmeyer@ziglar.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.198.191.130 (talk) 13:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I have changed the website information. As far as his contribution at Prestonwood, I'm afraid that a phone call to you would not satisfy Wikipedia's verifiability. Since the current fact is unsourced, I will remove it. But I wanted to point out to you that you can also edit this page, if you see misinformation on it, as long as you are careful to avoid the pitfalls that arise from conflict of interest. If there is third party reference, information can be included. If there is not, it should not be. --Moonriddengirl 13:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Change a page title

Can You change a title if it is incorect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 13:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that is called moving a page, but you have to have been registered for at least 4 days to use this function. You registered yesterday, so in a few more days you can move pages if you need to. Leebo ^T/C 13:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If you think it needs chaning quickly, you can request it and an admin may change it for you. ::Manors:: 14:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Blackberry access

Having trouble accessing Wikipedia from my Blackberry. Is it Blackberry compatible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.83.185.6 (talk) 14:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

A couple of people have asked about this before. Also see: TomeRaider, this previous discussion about Wikipedia on PDAs, and this previous discussion about WAP. --Teratornis 15:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Can I delet

Can I delet A page that is empty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Add {{substr:prod|reason}}, replacing "reason" with the reason you want it deleted. An admin will likely delete it. -- Kainaw^(what?) 14:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Only administrators have the power to actually remove a page through deletion, but any editor may initiate the deletion process on a page that is eligible. There are 3 processes: speedy deletion, proposed deletion, and articles for deletion. If an article page is empty (blank, or with no other content on the page) it would fall under criterion for speedy deletion A3 and you could place a {{db-empty}} tag on it. An administrator would later come by and delete it, assuming there was no other version of the page to revert to. Leebo ^T/C 14:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

• Just make sure the page hasn't got a good version in its history. Someone could've blanked it when in fact there was a good page there. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Basic

Can a basic perosn like me create a user lookup?--GoogleandYahoo try yoogleandgahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you explain what you mean a little more clearly? What do you mean by "user lookup"? Leebo ^T/C 14:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I mean a post of myself for instance I am in 17 Bollywood films (that is not true) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I take from your above question about Orange Mike, you mean "Can I create a user page?" And the answer is "Yes, everyone can." Yours is at User:GoogleandYahoo. I would hope you don't lie about yourself though, as that would defeat the purpose. Leebo ^T/C 14:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Click on this link, and start typing.--69.118.235.97 14:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Why wuold I lie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say you would, but you asked if you could create a page saying you did something you didn't actually do. Perhaps I misunderstood your intent. Leebo ^T/C 14:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank-you and yes you did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 14:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Just a note, please sign your posts using 4 tildes (~) x4 Thank you, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 15:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

As to why a person would Lie, we have a nice article about that. As to why a particular person would lie, we would need specific data about that person before we could propose plausible hypotheses. Of course we know that nobody gets all the way through life being 100% honest at all times. Sometimes, lying appears to be necessary to fight tyranny, as in the Double Cross System used by the British in WWII. --Teratornis 19:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

umbau school of architecture

To whom it may concern,

I am the Director of Operations with Umbau School of Architecture in Staunton, Virginia. We posted an article this summer so that when people searched umbau they were able to read on your site about who we are and what we do. That article has since been erased. Is their any reason for that, and if I post it a second time what would keep it from happening again.

Thank you for your attention to this matter,

Kim Moody, Director of Operations Umbau School of Architecture www.umbauschooloarchitecture.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandkam (talk • contribs) 14:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Umbau school of architecture was deleted because it met criterion for speedy deletion G11, which means it was blatant advertising. Considering that sounds like what your intent was, the deletion was appropriate. Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopedia, and should not be used for promotion or advertisement. Additionally, it represents a conflict of interest to write about a subject to which you are too close to remain neutral. I would recommend letting uninvolved editors create the page on your school. Leebo ^T/C 15:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Alernatively, you could create the article without any form of bias, as if you knew about the school but weren't in anyway connected. For example, instead of saying "The school has an excellent music program that they are proud of", You could just say "The school has an extensive music program" and so on. ::Manors:: 15:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If it meets the notability criteria it can be included. Write a small, neutral entry or offer a bounty to encourage others to help. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Reasonable Sig Length?

Can someone provide me with a guideline on the length of an acceptable sig? I fear mine is much too long, as with some other editors.

Thanks, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 15:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi! See WP:SIG :-) Stwalkerster talk 15:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've seen much longer, don't worry. Yours should be fine, it doesn't use all that much code, like mine does. Mine might need some shortening, we'll see. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 15:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 15:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Try Hersfold ^(t/a/c) (which is 224 characters long, still long but shorter). If you want it still shorter, you could try leaving out the 'awards' link, or creating User:Hersfold/a as a redirect and linking via that. --ais523 16:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Bashing

Is there a report sytem for users who incorrectly edit or bash you and or you articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 15:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Please put your questions under new headings. There is an article telling you about your problem, I can look for it, but I'm sure a more experienced user will find it first. ::Manors:: 15:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

View this page: WP:NPA ::Manors:: 15:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Report

Can you report people for bashing you or your articles or saying or portaying bad things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 15:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I just answered this above, view this page: WP:NPA. Also, please sign your comments by typing '~~~~' ::Manors:: 15:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry that me not signing my comments is bothering you but I cannot do that because it does not work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 15:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

It does work for everyone, have you typed out ~~~~ and saved the page? Leebo ^T/C 15:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Or just click the button above the edit window with an icon intended to represent handwriting. (It's the 10th from the left, the one between the red nowiki slash and the heavy horizontal line icons.) --Orange Mike 16:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well to let you know the reason it does not work is because the computer that I am using is not mine and when I use mine I will try it but for now the computer I am using has broken keys and that key happens to be one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoogleandYahoo (talk • contribs) 16:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

In that case, do what Orange Mike described. Leebo ^T/C 16:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

fine --GoogleandYahoo 16:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC) Happy GoogleandYahoo

Koooool! Glad we could help. (A hint: if you need a character that is represented by a busted key, cut and paste from something that has that character; that's why all the letters with diacritical marks on them are displayed below your edit window, in case you need to put a Ł or a Þ into an article.) --Orange Mike 16:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC) (who's had a busted key or two in his time)

Creating a link for powerpoint presentations

Hello,

Is there a way I can upload powerpoint presentations from a conference? I would like to post a wiki link on our website where all presentations can be accessed.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.211.160.1 (talk) 16:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

It's not possible to upload Powerpoint (.ppt) files onto Wikipedia I tried an example one to find out and it was rejected. ::Manors:: 16:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

They'd have to be used in a Wikipedia article. You may not use Wikipedia as a free webhost for your presentations. Leebo ^T/C 16:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You're right, I just tested it, but please don't edit my comments, Manors. If I'm wrong, just tell me. Leebo ^T/C 16:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I think powerpoint presentations are not considered encyclopedic content, and thus are not accomodated by the software. If this is for an article, simply put the information in as text and images in the usual manner. --Orange Mike 16:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I remember seeing a Microsoft Excel (.xls) file once... did they change the upload function to avoid getting unwanted ones, or am I just crazy? :P Leebo ^T/C 16:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

flickr images

if say "public" under them, does this mean they're in the public domain?Sortitouty 16:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

No. It means that the public may view it (as opposed to private view only). -- Kainaw^(what?) 16:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

new article re: biography

Hello,

I have created an account and want to post a biographical article about a person who wants to run for US Congress. This is not intended to be an advocacy piece, only a biographical sketch. I have read the entry on the current officeholder and plan on penning something similar. The subject of the sketch is notable in his own right per the dirctive in your tutorial materials. I was wondering if it is both allowable and appropriate to publish an entry when the subject has not yet declared a candidacy.

Thank you,

Dealsdealssmith 16:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

IF the person is notable (incumbent Congressmembers are inherently notable; candidates, not so much), simply create the article according to the usual guidelines. The possible candidacy could be mentioned in the last line of the article, IF there is a published source saying that he is thinking of running. If you are involved with him or his potential campaign, though, please be aware of our stringent rules about conflicts of interest. --Orange Mike 16:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Can someone...

Can someone edit your article with a virus.--GoogleandYahoo 16:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)GoogleandYahoo

There's no such thing as an "article virus," since an article is just a collection of text and can't get viruses. There may be nefarious things people can do to articles to make them less useful or whatnot, but I'm not going to mention those. Leebo ^T/C 16:28, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If someone mananges to put a virus in your article, they would almost certainly be banned permanently. You have nothing to worrry about. ::Manors:: 16:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If someone managed to put a virus on a text article, they would certainly deserve an article on Wikipedia mentioning the achievement. :D KTC 16:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I did not mean the artical itself I meant the user who posted it. Does wikipedia have virus filters if not then they should invest in some. --GoogleandYahoo 16:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC) WHO WINS THE FIGHT BETWEEN GOOGLE AND YAHOO CHEEK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF

What do you mean by a Virus filter? You mean a user giving Wikipedia a virus? Again, they're a skilled hacker if they can do that and we're not going to discuss such activities. Leebo ^T/C 16:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what that stupid thing on the end means. I would assume Wikimedia has strong security anyway, but you don't need a virus to edit an article, you can just click a button. ::Manors:: 16:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

1. Arh this is point less I mean a hacker or whoever goes on wikipedia see your article and edits it with a link many people click on the like to find out that it is a virus. 2. Or the hacker just sends a virus to that user. 3. A virus filter filters all hackers from send a virus the virus is sent but is ditroyed by the filter many websites have then for a small out of pocket fee.--GoogleandYahoo 16:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)well arh

I'm sure a lot of links that would contain viruses could be blacklisted and the user blocked. The filters you're talking about wouldn't prevent the damage you're referring to. Leebo ^T/C 16:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

1. Any link leaving Wikipedia is marked with a little arrow like this http://shaunwagner.com - so users know it is going offsite. If it is a corrupt or virus laden link, other editors will quickly remove it.
2. A hacker cannot just "send" a virus to a user. They can email a virus as an attachment if they know a user's email address - but it is up to the user to know not to open email attachments.
3. Hackers cannot send a virus to a Wikipedia article. The articles are ONLY text. There's no code - nothing to put a virus in.

I hope that explains it well. -- Kainaw^(what?) 16:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Articles are only text, but see this:

• Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 April 20#Hijacked page?

A malicious editor can invisibly hijack all the links on a page, redirecting them to a malicious Web site. --Teratornis 17:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that type of javascript has since been disabled. Such a hijack should no longer be possible. I think. --69.118.235.97 17:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it has. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean on Wikipedia specifically, or does the new version of MediaWiki plug that hole for all MediaWiki wikis? Do you have a reference for the notice, if any, that whoever plugged this hole might have given? I would like to add the reference to my personal notes. It would also be nice to add an update to the archived question to give the current status of this security hole. --Teratornis 17:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

generally, how can I ask a question about an entry?

Let's say I was investigating gravity and was looking at the Rothschild solution or equation.

I am NOT an expert, but I am a scientist with good math and physics skills (I can understand equations in general). I DO NOT wish to edit the answer, or make any correction to what has been written. I would like to know how the equations would apply to calculating the gravitational force inside of an atomic nucleus (between nuetrons and protons) given what we know about their mass and density (radius of the nuclear sphere).

1) Is it appropriate to write in my question as an edit, leaving it there for others to answer and then edit out in completing? 2) Is there an alternative way of contacting authors of articles? Or of posing such a question relevant to an article to the visitors who may arrive at that page?

Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.87.166.72 (talk) 16:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Generally, discussion occurs on talk pages, not the articles themselves, which you can reach by clicking the "Discussion" tab at the top of any page. Be warned, however, that discussion should remain strictly focused on ways to improve the article, not general discussion on the subject itself. You may want to find a science/mathematics forum to ask such questions, or go into the History of the article, find an editor who you'd like to ask, go to their user page, and click "Email user" to send them an email question. Leebo ^T/C 16:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You could also try asking at the reference desk. --ais523 16:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The answer to your particular question seems pretty straightforward. Try reading some of these links:

• Google:gravitational force inside atomic nucleus

for example:

• http://www.britannica.com/nobelprize/article-260976

which says:

• Especially at the scale of elementary particles, the gravitational force is many orders of magnitude weaker than other fundamental forces, so it is customarily ignored when talking about the nucleus.

You can also search for the same keywords on Wikipedia with similar results. --Teratornis 16:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Opening A Link in its Own Window

How do you program a link to open the destination in a new window? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.83.168.254 (talk) 17:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There's no markup for such a link available; this is apparently a deliberate decision by the developers. On most browsers, you can open a link in a new window even if it's set up to open in the same window by holding down 'shift' and clicking on the link. --ais523 17:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If your question refers to how to do it in general in terms of HTML and not in reference to within Wikipedia, try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. KTC 17:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Helper

Hi, I saw somewhere I could apply for help from an experienced user, like a buddy thing. Where is this? Phgao 17:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Adopt a user. KTC 17:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Dealing with a cut-and-paste page

Hi there. I've come across an article that seems mostly constructed by cut and pastes from other articles in Wikipedia, but no links are provided in the edit history. This violates the GFDL. How do I rectify this? Tim Vickers 17:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Remove copyvio materials. Add references to claims that are unreferenced. What page are you referring to? -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I mean the page (Evolutionary history of life) is constructed from sections taken from other Wikipedia pages. Tim Vickers 17:33, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There's no problem with copying Wikipedia. Anyone can copy it - which is why you find Wikipedia articles all over the Internet. However, the article should be written so it reads well and not like a bunch of copied paragraphs herded into a new area. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The edit history should say where the paragraphs were copied from, if they were; if the history doesn't say that, and it doesn't look like it does to me, it would be best to give the information on the talk page (you can find the edit history in these three pages/redirects...). If the original pages have been deleted altogether, they probably need to be undeleted (which would be uncontroversial at WP:DRV). --ais523 17:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, would it be best to put the links on the talk page or do a blank edit and put them in the edit history? Tim Vickers 17:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The talk page is more usual for after-the-fact correction in my experience, but either would be fine. (You could even do both, I suppose.) --ais523 17:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, will do. Tim Vickers 19:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

How To Reference a School Pamphlet/Handout

In the article Stillwater Area High School I have a list of state championships that has been without a source for some time. Reason being is that this information is not on the internet and I am not familiar with how to reference something like this. I got it directly from a school pamphlet. The list was among other information mailed out to all students. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mientkiewicz5508 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citation templates. I think you will want the press release one - but feel free to choose a different one if it looks better. -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Well I like that, but it doesn't exactly have a URL...will it still suffice? It's not somethign that could be easily checked as a reference, and I'm wondering if it's still reliable as a reference. Or if people would consider that not good enough. Haha.Mientkiewicz5508 06:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

If it can't be checked by other people, it has no value as a reference. I think the test is "available from libraries", eg via interlibrary loan. Kappa 16:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Colored Text

How do you make text a certain color? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.83.168.254 (talk) 17:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Use <span style='color:red;'>your text</span> -- Kainaw^(what?) 17:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Or, <font color="color">TEXT</font> ::Manors:: 17:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair Use Photos (part 2 bottom)

I've read Wikipedia's imaging policy in pretty good detail but I'm still a little confused. If an image is copyrighted elsewhere, it can be used if no substitute can be found and under various other conditions. From the guidelines, it looked as if the conditions state that the photo cannot be of a living person unless other conditions are met. Yet, I have found several politician pages that include Gray Davis and Shirley Horton, who are both living people, yet they have copyrighted photos submited under fair use. There are a lot of California politicians that are living without photos. My question is can I upload copyrighted photos for each of those politicians? User:calbear22 08:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You can not. And those pages you cite should not have non-free images (all "fair use" images are, by definition, non-free). See our fair use criteria. All articles on living people should not have any fair-use photos on them that are just being used to show what they look like; a free one can be obtained. There can be exceptions (for example, an image of someone playing a role in a movie - no free alternative could be obtained). Neil ム 09:53, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The pics in those 2 articles have a claim of public domain in their edit summaries, so I think the copyright tags are probably in error. Kevin 13:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

How would one go about obtaining a free one? As long as any photo is from an area with that little c on the page, than a photo can't be uploaded. User:calbear22 15:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If they're living, I'd suggest requesting one that comes with explicit permission to post. --Orange Mike 18:21, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Uploading photos of living people confuses me to the max. I would suggest doing what I'm doing and wait until you've had a bit of experience here before even attempting to upload them. ::Manors:: 19:18, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

External Link Won't Open

My external link won't open from within our wiki... http://planning.lacounty.gov/doc/form/form_CUP_checklist.pdf How do I get the link to open the pdf file? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.83.168.254 (talk) 19:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

That link worked for me, but you should code the link like this: "[http://planning.lacounty.gov/doc/form/form_CUP_checklist.pdf]" which will produce: [13]. The "20" will change depending where it is in the article. ::Manors:: 19:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

how to handle a troublesome user

Looking for advice on how to deal with a user who has done the following (on a single article):

• removed a "speedy deletion" tag from an image in the article
• changed a cleanup tag to read "This article has been tagged for cleanup since July 2009"
• reinstated material which had a personal essay style/buzzwords/unencyclopedic material and tone, without any comment or discussion
• has made all of their contributions to only this one page (sockpuppet?)

Thanks. --- Taroaldo 19:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The user should have recieved warnings for each of those actions as vandalism. If they've hit their limit on warnings (at least one level 4 warning) recently, report them to WP:ANI and they'll get a block. If they only do this once in a while, then it's something that needs to be handled through dispute resolution. -- Kesh 19:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Taken individually, those are all quite minor instances of unconstructive editing. If it's happening all at once, that's a bit different. Anyway, each situation is different, so it's hard to say what the best course of action is without looking at the user's contributions. Leebo ^T/C 19:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

All happened today on "Stress (medicine)" page. Since I am still not familiar with all of Wikipedia's policies, I want to make sure that I follow a process which is appropriate in this case. Thanks. --- Taroaldo 20:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

How to add info box

How do add an info box. I want to add one to My Fountain of Nations ArticleCheyenneRulz 21:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:List of infoboxes to find the appropriate infobox, and then follow the instructions on the infobox's template page.--Max Talk (+) 22:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Math Symbol Rendering

Reading Matrix Mechanics, Lagrangian's etc, leads to Math Symbol/Font Wiki searchs. The tables returned fail for about 50% of the Glyphs rentered on my systems Win 2000 and Win 98SE.

IE 6.0+View.encode.Auto-select and all other such options fail also for me.

Please recommend Win Fonts, or Style Sheets commonly used Wiki Articles.

It would be nice to be able to key in alt + Decimal number in your search window to find a symbol related article.

Your content is super, and has me chasing my tail with great delight.

Yours 23:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

If the math symbols aren't rendering correctly, you can try setting in your preferences to render math as an image (Under the Math tab, select "Always render PNG" and save. You must be logged in for this to work.) A much better solution, however, would be to Get Firefox. (And upgrade your OS. But not to Vista. It doesn't work right yet.) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Would like to see "zipper merge" entry

I searched for "zipper merge" and couldn't find it. Your entries are great and I'm hoping one of your contributors might help me out. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kloftin (talk • contribs) 23:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a zipper merge? What articles is it most likely to relate to? Woodym555 23:17, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

A Google search [14] shows that "zipper merge" is a way for drivers to merge vehicles in two lanes into one lane when the other lane is about to end. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and it doesn't sound like a thing we should have an article about. PrimeHunter 23:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

It could still have an article, just you would need to find a way to stretch that information to a few paragraphs. ::Manors:: 01:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding a column on the right for a movie title which includes an image of the poster and specs

Hi. I'm trying to add a column for several movie titles which show the movie poster, principals, and additional info. Most films on the site have these columns but I can't seem to figure out how to add this.

Thanks,

Jaked —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaked4 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You're looking for {{Infobox Film}}. Copy the code on that page and fill out the information. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

September 1

Playboy Magazine Covers

I thought only a Free photo could be used on the biography of a living person.

It seems to me that the magazine cover used on Bethany Lorraine violates WP:FU and WP:NFCC.

In fact all the magazine covers in Category:Playboy magazine covers seem to be violations.

Am I right ?

If I am, I'll start removing them.

Please advise.

Tovojolo 00:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

On that specific page, it probably is. Playboy covers are copyrighted, but they should only serve to illustrated commentary on the model in the issue indicated. For instance, if the articles explains "Miss X's fame was cemented when she appeared on the June 1987 issue of Playboy" then an image of the magazine would probably be acceptable. However, without any commentary, or with commentary unrelated to the issue, such as "Miss X is a former Playboy centerfold" they probably fail our content criteria. --Haemo 00:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, just so you know, to Wikilink to a category or image you can just put a colon in front, like [[:Category:Playboy magazine covers]]

I'm confused.

Excusing copyright violations only harms Wikipedia.

Look at Marliece Andrada, the commentary in the article is that she was the playmate for that particular month – is that enough to justify the use of the magazine cover ?

Tovojolo 01:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

No, it's probably not. What are you confused about? You brought up a good point, and I'd say most would agree that those covers are used in ways disallowed by our fair use guidelines. Leebo ^T/C 01:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Firefox spell-check on Wikipedia

G'day. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.6 and loving the spell-check function that, similarly to Microsoft Word and Thunderbird, underlines misspelt words in Red. It is working right now in this little window, but numerous times when I'm editing a large Wiki article it doesn't appear to be working. I'm guessing this might have something to do with their being too many words and it timing out or something? Does anybody know a way to get around this? Cheers, Rothery 02:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hrmm, I'm using the same version, and I have never noticed this issue, and have edited many very large pages. It might be some sort of conflict with another add-on, or some other software issue. Perhaps if nobody here can figure it out, you may wish to ask at Wikipedia:Village Pump (technical) and see if those very smart folks can assist you. ^Ariel♥Gold 02:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I just opened it on this page, which is quite large, and it was working. Leebo ^T/C 02:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

It's a Firefox problem, not a Wikipedia problem. Sometimes, when editing large amounts of text, the underlining spellchecker doesn't work. I've noticed it on several different sites. Why? I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the amount of RAM your computer has, and the size of the page you're editing. --Haemo 06:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Compactabilty

Hello, I am using a 736JD Microchip (Dell make 2003 November) with a processer that uses a 9 voltage adaptor. Would this combination defect my Wikipedia page display or would it create a meltdown in the lower motherboard? My motherboard detail logs are : 63H-4403-N/FE4. For The Americas the 9 voltage adaptor would be a 12 voltage adapter with compactability to the motherboard (in this case with the Dell Microchip). Furthermore, Would these adapters also damage my screen of my computer when viewing Wikipedia? As for the screen, it is a 1997 (old) make by Hartwell Glass Co. (now defunct). Thank You. --Frenton Complex 02:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, I would recommend you ask this question at one of the reference desks, since it's not about using Wikipedia specifically. Secondly... how could Wikipedia have any effect on your hardware? Leebo ^T/C 02:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I did, and Wikipedia specifications (loose browser, older interface) can have a significant impact on lower motherboards versions HD77-J8 thru to HD98-H7 if the 736JD Microchip is used in an 9v adapter situation. That is how it affects hardware. --Frenton Complex 02:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

That makes no sense whatsoever. -- Kesh 03:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

If it makes no sense to you that means you dont understand my question. Its a very experienced question you see. --Frenton Complex 03:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Is English a second language for you? I think that is part of the problem: the way you are writing does not make a lot of sense in English. Further, you aren't explaining how in the world Wikipedia could possibly cause a hardware problem. . It sounds like you're either talking about an adapter for the CPU or motherboard (which is a very bad idea) or a power adapter for the computer itself, which can't hurt the computer at all. None of the component numbers you've given show up on Google at all, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. -- Kesh 03:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The things you are listing as Wikipedia's fault are not actually caused by Wikipedia, they'd be caused by you providing the settings necessary to view Wikipedia. There's a difference, and as I said before, this is not a question related to using Wikipedia. It's a hardware question. It belongs on one of the reference desks, and if you are saying that you asked at one of the reference desks, you did not do it with this account. Leebo ^T/C 03:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Html suppliment

Can anyone recommend a HTML supplement for a Firefox Web browser? My downloaded version is 3.4 Beta . Any supplement by original standards wont work, however I need to find one with HTML SHD77 support for Windows 98.. Of course this is essential for viewing wikipedias front page, --Missingthefuture 02:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This question more properly belongs on the Computing Reference Desk. They specialise in computing related questions Raven4x4x 08:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Contacting Janke

I am trying to reach Wikipedia contributor Janke. I do not have a "talkpage" and don't know how to leave a message on his. 74.61.73.217 03:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Just click here. That's the same thing as going to his talk page and clicking the "+" tab at the top. Also, you do have a talk page, it's at User talk:74.61.73.217. Leebo ^T/C 03:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

An unregistered user may access Wikipedia from more than one IP address, or may share a given IP address with other users. For the questioner to have a unique user talk page, he or she should create an account. --Teratornis 23:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

1 Suggestion and 1 Problem

Dear Wikipidea,

Suggestion I am a regular user/reader of your website. However today(1st September 2007) while reading a thought came into my mind. What if the online material (page) available on the website can be downloaded in the form of a PDF document? It will save a user's time to search the same article everytime he needs it. Also if a user access the same page multiple times he might put different keywords and would get a different result each time. Also he will not have to log in to the internet each time he needs the same. This is beneficial for users in countries like mine where there are more dial up users and who are not connected on 24X7 basis. Whenever needed the PDF can be accessed from the hard disk.

Problem Regarding the same i decided to drop an e-mail to Wikipidea so i clicked on the "Contact Wikipidea" link. However after surfing through lots of links i finally came across this page. Life could have been lot simpler if you could have published a simple e-mail id like feedback@wikipidea.org and users like me would have sent an e-mail to the same rather than surfing through lots of pages to find the feedback/contact us. I am not even sure if i am writing on the correct page since the link said "Contact a Wikipidea user". I assume that this information will go to a Wikipidea official. If not please forward the same on my behalf.

Regards, Manish Gangal manish_gangal@rediffmail.com New Delhi, India —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish gangal (talk • contribs) 07:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

well Wikipedia will be released as Version 1 some time in the near future which is the closest thing to that PDF suggestion in the pipe line (to my knowledge), and wikipedia has an email address: info-en-o@wikimedia.org, although you could suggest that they could add on wikipedias email address to the Wikipedia:Contact us, by placing your suggestion on Wikipedia talk:Contact us.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 07:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I fear that "sometime in the near future" might be similar to "Real soon now." In the meantime, I would direct the attention of M. Gangal to TomeRaider, which provides text-only downloadable versions of Wikipedia for offline reading. The relatively low hardware requirements of TomeRaider should make it helpful for those who lack fast, continuous connections to the Internet. --Teratornis 23:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I am INDIAN i need to help you ,in your country ,a person cheated me

~SNIP~—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.209.33 (talk) 07:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

(NOTE: ENTIRE QUESTION REMOVED BY ME AS POTENTIAL LIBEL PROBLEM. AndyJones 16:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC))

Firstly, this Help Desk is for question about Wikipedia. We cannot help you with legal or financial matters such as this. Secondly, please only post your question once. I have removed the duplicate post. Finally, it is a very bad idea to post contact details such as addresses, phone numbers and e-mail addresses on this page. This is a public page and can attract spammers, so I have removed all the contact details from you message. Raven4x4x 08:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

First Wkikpedia is not responible for any of these thigs so try contacting a lawer or something because this a bad idea to post information and such on a PUBLIC website were all sorts of people will respond and cheat you more. 2. This is not a place to post person questions. --GoogleandYahoo 19:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

printing

Hi, I hope you will help please with the following: > I have recently looked at a page BIG DIPPER & wished to print off the > details, unfotunately only the text prints & not the 2 maps included in the > article. I have looked closely at FAQ's & all other options to find a > solution including trying to ask a wikipedia user, having created an account > & logged in. However, I don't know any wikipedia users so can't type in a > name, so again I'm stumped !! > What am I doing wrong, & how can I print the images as well as the text? > Thankyou, I look forward to your reply, > Harry---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Herisson (talk • contribs) 08:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried clicking the "Printible version" link in the side menu? It's in the list of links titled 'toolbox'. Clicking that link will bring you to this page. Printing this page will print both the images and text. Raven4x4x 08:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Request for article

I'm not sure if this is the place for it, but I've been searching for a good while, and I'm not too good with computers. I was running through the list of the current American third parties and noticed that the one I belong to is missing. Perhaps it is because I've only seen it here in Arizona? It is the International Dreamist Party. Their website is down I believe, but here's an unofficial one http://www.myspace.com/dreamistparty . I don't know if it'll get an article or not, but I do believe it's worth noting in the wikipedia.

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.128.50 (talk) 08:40, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

You can request it at Wikipedia:Requested articles. The 10 Google hits [15] on "International Dreamist Party" are all to MySpace. Unless much better reliable sources are found, the party does not satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). An article about it would probably be deleted. PrimeHunter 11:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Slight talkpage problem

I know I should be able to do this by now, but the things I've tried aren't working. I've recieved a Wikiproject invitation which used a colour-background, which seems to be carrying on all the way down the page. When I typed the reply, the green background remained behind my text. Can somebody sort it out please? Lradrama 09:37, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

1 hour later and no reply... Lradrama 10:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

1 hour! and i have removed the sky blue for you. Woodym555 10:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)(amended) it needed the |} closing brackets. Woodym555 10:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou very much! Lradrama 11:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The Sound of Music

I don't understand why, but to the left of this article, below the toolbox, the list "in other languages" does not appear, but if you tick the button "edit this page", down at the bottom of the edit window various languages are stated. Why doesn't the list appear in "normal" view? Pdeege 10:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

There was a rogue <ref> tag that wasn't closed. All of the text below this moved into the reference including the categories and the notes section istelf. Fixed now. Woodym555 10:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

How u get such a Large Information

How u People get this timely and relevant information across Globe.Do you have research team in every countries —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.135.192.118 (talk) 11:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

this is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, so anyone around the world can start editing. We are all individuals (5,219,363 at last count) who want to contribute to the encyclopedia. There are no Research teams, just a wikipedia community. | Wikinews] has up to date information. So there you are, you too can become a contributor if you want. Just click the edit tab at the top and start editing Woodym555 11:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Ed Redlich is my mom's cousin. Am I still allowed to edit his page if I have some facts to add? Smartyshoe 12:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

If those facts are properly verifiable and if the information presented is neutral, yes. Conflict of interest posting is discouraged, but not disallowed. If you think your changes are likely to be controversial, you should probably discuss them at the article's talk page first. --Moonriddengirl 12:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks for claryfing. Smartyshoe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smartyshoe (talk • contribs) 13:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Renaming

If I wanted to change my username would "I want to change because I like the other name" be allowed and do all your subpagess etc. move yet remain unaltered-- Phoenix 13:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username. KTC 13:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but I've been there. I followed a link and found it Wikipedia:Changing usernames guidelines-- Phoenix 13:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

And the second part of my question; does my userspace stay the way it is apart from a different username-- Phoenix 14:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it is like a page move, all of the content and edit history of the username gets transferred to your new username. Woodym555 14:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!-- Phoenix 14:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Image loading

I am having an issue - images on wikipedia articles are not loading - its happening in IE and Firefox and I was wondering whether this issue is specific to me, and how I could rectify it?--Flymeoutofhere 13:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, Have you got a slow connection? I've got a 26Kbps dial-up and images take a while to load. I can see them eventually though-- Phoenix 14:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

No - its never been an issue before - it just started a few days ago...Thanks.--Flymeoutofhere 14:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

How to go back 20 revs and malicious changes ?

A group focused on a IEEE standard 1902.1 wrote a comprehensive summary and plan English explanation - heavily supported by cross-references and back up material and reviewed by many users. The Standard was just passed unanimously by work group (Epson, Motorola, Microsoft, Bearing Point, GM to name few of 17 companies in work group)

These standards can become political and competitive (eg 802 has been explosive...) Someone not well identified deleted most of the WiKi core and removed all references over course of several weeks - he did it by making many small changes - eating away core with each -- makes it very difficult to go back 20 revs... think it was done this way intentionally and malicious.....

Question

1. How do we go back to original version - do I have to undo each of his revs (about 20). or is simple way to go back to original ...

2. He offered no explanation for changes in discussion - I have made it clear glad to change anything if specifics are addressed - have done that consistently - can I put him on list or something so blocks ability to make future changes ?? This is second time this has happened ...

Thanks Very Much

John Stevens Chair IEEE 1902.1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.130.24 (talk)

I can't find which article you're talking about. KTC 13:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict):First, this may be a slight WP:COI, but as long as you back things up with references and discuss changes on the talk page, you should be ok. What is the exact name of the article so i can have a look? Thanks Woodym555 14:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's about RuBee which has been edited by Jkmstevens who is "John K Stevens", but the article history does not match the description. PrimeHunter 14:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Wiki table in wrong place in article ... cannot move it

Near the end of the Railway station layout article, the Railway station layout#Large stations section contains a wikitable. However, the Railway station layout#See also section is shown before the table, even though its text is physically after the table when I edit the page. I have tried to correct this without success. Could someone take a look at it please. FYI, I am using Mozilla Firefox version 2.0.0.6, which has given me no problems on other Wiki pages. Thanks. Truthanado 14:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe I've repaired it. This is not my area, but the problem seemed to be in the table's closure. It was |-}. Changing it to |} seems to have worked. Why? I have no idea. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Many Thanks! That was driving me nuts. Truthanado 15:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Images

Do our images get indexed by Google? So if I were to look up a person on Google images, would their wikipedia portrait show? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 15:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Images do get indexed, because if you search for certain terms, you'll find images from Wikipedia. As for your second question, probably not. First off, most people don't have a portrait, and there is no such thing as a "wikipedia portrait" in the same sense as a Facebook profile pic. Second, most users don't register with their real names, so would have to now their pseudonym on Wikipedia, and thirdly, my picture does not turn up despite the fact I have an account under my own name and a picture on my userpage, so I doubt it is the most reliable way to search.--Max Talk (+) 17:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

gamecocks

is 92.7 the same radio station carrys the south carolina football? another question could i possible get the radio sound for games online like for tonight football game?

This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself. Sorry, we can't help you with that one. -- Kesh 17:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Try Yahoo or something to answer your question this Help Desk is just alone for question about editing in wikipedia. --GoogleandYahoo 19:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

There's also the Reference desk here on Wikipedia. --Tkynerd 19:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Another Bug

There's a bug on the main page again. When I view the main page, it says on the top that I have to log in or register but I'm already logged in.--Hundred-Man 15:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The main page is protected as a preventative measure. You'd have to be an admin to edit it. –Animum 15:46, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Cant Find The Right infoBox

Hi,

I wrote the Fountain of Nations article and i can't find the right infobox to do it

Can somebody help me??

CheyenneRulz 15:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles don't have to have an infobox, but maybe you can use {{Infobox building}} and ignore parameters which don't apply to Fountain of Nations. PrimeHunter 16:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture of the Day

Can you E-Mail the pictures of the day? If so, how —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.74.91 (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as i know, you can't. You can add {{Pic of the day}} (version with text). Or you could use {{POTD}} which is a non-text version. More information can be found at Wikipedia:Picture of the day. Woodym555 19:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you can, but you have to do it manually. If you click on the picture, and keep doing so until all you see is the picture (no text around it) you can then right click and click save image as you then chose where to save it onto your computer. You can then email this as an attachment. Hope this helps, Tiddly-Tom 20:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

About the 'Dead By April' page.

Hello, I created an article on the band Dead By April, as the band directly wanted me to do so. The article i created included a link to the main singer's myspace page, where it says he is in the band. The singer also sings for the band Nightrage, who DOES have a wikipage. This band artice is important for people who want to find out about the sideproject of this person. I have seen many band pages with very little info and about 2 sentances, with nothing else. The article i created was elaborate, had pictures, links, links to articles, and appropriate credit, dates, and info. It was equal to all other band pages unless i made a tiny mistake upon which i should have had more time to correct before "speedy deletion" took place. I looked at the codes of other band pages and nothin seemed different from the one i created, so i dont see the problem. There is a article about the band from a reliable site, which i could have also put in the references section, if i had had more time to do so. So I'm wondering what i could have done to make my page correct? because i still have the full code i can paste to re-do the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.69.187 (talk) 18:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you write about copying something from someone elses page because if so then you will be up for speedy deletion because you "stole" the article even if you had the permission. Try the wikipedia Criteria for speedy deletion. If it does not pop up as a link then type it in the search bar. --GoogleandYahoo 19:23, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Since whoever nominated your article for deletion did not notify you per custom, I'm afraid I don't know what reason was tagged on the page. Pages are often deleted for not meeting requirements for notability. I see the band does not yet have an entry at All Music. Perhaps that's the case here? If you feel the band meets the notability requirements per the guideline, you need to assert that within the article so that new page reviewers can see instantly why the band needs an encyclopedia article. If the band is notable and you did assert that, it may also be that since you did not include the third party article you have there was a problem with your third party sources. Lack of sourcing is usually dealt with through different avenues, though, than speedy deletion. --Moonriddengirl 20:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Your article was deleted because the Admin felt the article did not assert enough Noteablitly. As I cannot see the deleted page, I cannot comment. Please contact the deleting admin here he/she should be able to help you. Thanks, Tiddly-Tom 20:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Error in Host

Everytime I try to have a company send me an email it says Host Herman Dunn cannot be found. I am the Host not herman, how can I solve this problem?

This help page is for people who are having problems editing wikipedia. You might want to try the Reference desk. Woodym555 18:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Bible Translation

There is a small group of islands off the east coast of the US which have been isolated for many years. A diolect similar to english has evolved and a translation of the KJV was produced in their language. I cannot find this translation because I do not know the name of the people (sounds like "Nyuan") Can you help?

Dennis Cuchiara email removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.18.89.59 (talk) 18:34, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This help page is for people who are having problems editing wikipedia. You might want to try the Reference desk. Woodym555 18:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See List of dialects of the English language#North America. You may be thinking of Harkers Island English. I remember seeing it featured in The Story of English. --Teratornis 19:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

RADIO TALK SHOW HOST AND ROMANCE NOVELIST SKYLAR STONE

HOW DO I SUBMIT INFORMATION ON THE ABOVE RADIO TALK SHOW HOST AND PHILANTHROPIST ROMANCE NOVELIST, SKYLAR STONE?

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by Affairsexpert (talk • contribs) 19:00, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. :) --Moonriddengirl 19:56, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Skin Problems

I am having huge problems with wikipedia! This has never happened before!
Many wikimedia sites including wikipedia and mediawiki site will not display the site skin at all. I have never have had this problem before, i checked settings and the skin is on monobook i tried flipping around, the other skins don't work as well. I went back to monobook and it still doesn't work,It isnt just my account, I was not loged in when I discoverd this. when I saw this I immediately logged in and it is still like it! Is anyone else experiencing it, is it a global error/change, if it is just me how do I fix it. there have been no recent browser changes at all and no recent downloads except for a developer zip file from yahoo! . DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 20:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

This isn't a problem anymore! it is working again. but i still have the question, why was this happening? DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 20:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Ausralia, Mareeba

Australia, MAreeba, current status population industry if any —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.217.60.185 (talk) 20:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You may wish to ask your question at the reference desk. The help desk is for specific issues with how to use Wikipedia. Good luck. :) --Moonriddengirl 20:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you are looking for This. Hope it helps! DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 20:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

For a more recent population estimate and other statistics, head to the Australian Bureau of Statistics' Census Data site which has all the currently released data from the 2006 census. (The Australian Wikipedians are waiting on a particular release before updating all the articles.) Confusing Manifestation 23:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

WP commons distinct from WPde ?

I'm puzzled to see that one of two images from this article I translated displays, and the other doesn't. Does Image:Hans Bethge2.gif need to be moved from WPde to the English WP, or is some kind of external link possible? And why did Image:Grabmal Hans Bethge in Kirchheim u Teck.JPG come thru without anything done on my part? Sparafucil 21:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep, the first image probably needs to be moved to English Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. The second one moved properly because it is at Wikimedia Commons where all pictures can be used on any language Wikipedia. --Hdt83 ^Chat 22:41, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

construction heading

How do I put a heading on a page such as "under construction"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyaos (talk • contribs) 22:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I use {{inuse}} Checking your listed number of edits, I'm guessing you might not have used a template before. You edit the page as normal, but put that chunk of text at the top. It will put a notice up asking people not to edit the page while you are doing so. Please note that sometimes people don't notice it and edit it anyway. It's always good to be prepared for edit conflicts. :) And please let me know if you need me to clarify further.. --Moonriddengirl 22:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Template messages/Maintenance#Articles undergoing major edits. PrimeHunter 02:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

embedding content

Is there an easy way to embed Wikipedia content into a web page on a website much like one would embed a YouTube video? Is there any copyright restrictions to be aware of? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.42 (talk) 22:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Resolved

 – See below

Public domain

Alfonso IX of Leon contained material verbatim from the eleventh edition of Encylopedia Britannica, which the article does state is in the public domain. Does this mean it can be copied directly or does it still need to be rephrased. (I've done a bit anyway, just for style considerations.) Clarityfiend 22:43, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See Public domain for a description, but simply yes it can be copied verbatim. KTC 23:04, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. PrimeHunter 02:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you embed Wikipedia Content into a webpage

Sorry I didn't put a subject before or sign my name...

Is there a way to embed Wikipedia content into a web page on an external website much like one would embed a YouTube video? Is there any copyright restrictions to be aware of? Pointers to information related to this is appreciated. Thank you. alfitz, wheeling, wv —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.223.42 (talk) 22:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not possible for you to just embed any particular article no. For copyright's, see Wikipedia:Copyrights. KTC 23:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MIRROR, and particularly WP:MIRROR#Remote loading which describes the appropriate procedure for mirroring Wikipedia's content. --Teratornis 23:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

September 2

Reverting on Template:Pirates

This is the first time I have asked a question here because I can usually figure things out on my own. The template in question is Template:Pirates. Just wanted to give the link because it is then easier to explain. An IP added a privateer to the notable pirates. I reverted it because I don't think the privateer was notable enough. The IP also added a link to the list of female pirates. All of those pirates were listed in the main list of pirates (which also included a link to the list of female pirates) so I also took that back off. Now the IP has added it again. Since I want to avoid an edit war, I was confused about what to do so I came here. Thanks! Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 00:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

This is not a concise answer, but here is where to find all the documents describing how to handle content disputes: WP:EITW#Conten. Good luck. --Teratornis 02:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm gonna try and talk with the IP and see why they are adding it. I dunno if they will respond or not. Thanks again! Deflagro ^Contribs/_Talk 02:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

New entry?

Hi, I want to add an entry! How do I do this? Thanks, Kate Suisman

<email removed to prevent spam>—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksuisman (talk • contribs) 03:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Other name for existing article

If a subject already has an article but the same topic would stand alone (eg acronym for an organisation that is the same as another) how should that be addressed?

Mishahu 03:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mishahu. We do this by creating a redirect at the alternate name. That link has a lot of useful information but just as an example, say you wanted to make R.O.U.S. link to an article named Rodents of Unsual Size: you'd create the page R.O.U.S. with the text: #REDIRECT [[Rodents of Unsual Size]].--Fuhghettaboutit 05:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Merging

I would like to merge two articles which have been tagged for suggested merging. However, I do not wish to upset people by merging them if the consensus is not to. But in the talk pages, there is maybe only one or two people's opinions on it. This is the same for many articles tagged for merging.

Is there a time limit after the articles have been tagged when it would be okay to go ahead? Otherwise, how do I know if it's okay or not to go ahead with the merge? -- Matthew Edwards 04:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, it depends on how long the suggestion has been there, and if the comments support or object to the merge. Links? i ^said 04:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

For instance List of notable Chicanos and List of Mexican Americans which has been tagged since October 2006. Most of the articles listed at Category:Articles to be merged since October 2006 to be honest.-- Matthew Edwards 04:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

For those examples, since the discussion is way old, I would make a brief comment asking if anyone had any objections, and after maybe three or four days, if no one does, I would merge. But I'm just over cautious like that. i ^said 04:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Then that is what I shall do :) Thank you. -- Matthew Edwards 04:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

1973 comet

hi my name is cheri i am looking for an article the was wrote in 1973 around may. my uncle passed away on the comet boat that sunk his name was ralf nickerson my mother once has the book with this article in it and i would like to know how i myself can get this seeing i was very close to him and it would mean alot.

thank you cheri —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheri1967 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia wasn't around in 1973. Do you have any other information? -- Matthew Edwards 04:27, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Try: google:comet sank 1973. That finds Foundering of the Motor Vessel COMET Off Point Judith, Rhode Island on 19 May 1973 with Loss of Life. "Comet" is a common name for boats and ships, however, so you would have to be more specific about where this sinking occurred to narrow it down. Wikipedia has a Point Judith article, but it is only a stub at the moment. --Teratornis 10:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Signature

My signature doesn't appear to be working. Why would this be? --BrianFG 06:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

In "My preferences", under "User profile", you have "Raw signature" checked - this is a slightly more advanced feature, and your signature will work if you uncheck it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 07:39, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. BrianFG 23:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem with editing a section

I would like to add a more complete note (a link to the article referenced) for a note (footnote) in the article about J.S. Bach, but the text shown on the main page does not show up when I press "edit this page". What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle Rasmussen (talk • contribs) 08:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Most likely the problem is that you forgot to close a <ref ...> tag with a matching </ref>. (This is a very common mistake, and one that in my opinion the MediaWiki software should check for, instead of just blanking everything after the unmatched <ref ...> tag.) See WP:FOOT. --Teratornis 09:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you misunderstood me. When I clicked on the "Notes" there was nothing -- Then I figured out that you have to change the footnotes in the section of the text above where the reference comes. So, now I have solved my problem. Thanks for your response anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle Rasmussen (talk • contribs) 12:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

agricultural land

definition of "net sown area" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.113.137 (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

try the reference desk.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 10:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Try a Google Search. I found this page which says:

• Net Area Sown: This represents the total area sown with crops and orchards. Area sown more than once in the same year is counted only once.
• Total Cropped Area: This represents the total area sown once and/or more than once in a particular year, i.e. the area is counted as many times as there are sowings in a year. This total area is known as gross cropped area.

When I first read your question, and before I googled, I was puzzled about what the net sown area could mean, since it seemed to me that land would either be sown or not sown. I wasn't thinking about multiple sowings per year. I wonder what terms "they" use for similar areas in aquaculture? --Teratornis 03:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Disambig query

There are two persons named Michael Grant who are authors, and there is already an article titled Michael Grant (author) - what is the correct way to title an article about the other author named Michael Grant?

Salmanazar 13:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Find something else that is different, maybe nationality, genre, or a middle initial. Without knowing who the other is, I cannot give more precise advice. PrimeHunter 16:09, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

The disambiguation at Michael Grant suggests there is a Michael Grant (crime writer), is that him? Kappa 16:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I decided to just add "(crime writer)" bearing in mind that both Mr Grants are devoid of middle initials. Salmanazar 19:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Birth date and death date

I saw this in the biography of Gregory Peck

birthdate = birth date|1916|4|5|mf=y

deathdate = death date and age|2003|6|12|1916|4|5|mf=y

What does "mf=y" mean ?

Tovojolo 13:20, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You may know that users can set their preferences to display (linked) dates using particular formats such as day, month, year versus month, day, year. In these templates the default was month, day, year so they came up with "df=y", which apparently stands for "day first=yes" and use that for articles where the subject is from a region that uses that date formatting. Since "month first=yes" ("mf-y") apparently results in the default, I'm not clear why it's needed at all, but the result is that it displays month, day, year.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Word

how to find the meanings of any word..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.248.111 (talk) 14:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Please start a new question to have it answered in the future. Wikipedia is NOT a dictionary. For definitions of words please use Wikipedia's sister project, Wikitionary. Thank you, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 14:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

In addition to Wiktionary, you can try Google Search for word definitions. For example: google:define:numinous, google:define:irredentism, google:define:zymurgy, google:define:fatuous, google:define:ineluctable. --Teratornis 18:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

GKMilner

GRAHAM MILNER (GKMilner) b. 3/12/1952 Lancashire, England. Arrived in Perth, Western Australia 1967. Socialist activist and writer.

Began revolutionary activities in final year of high school in Perth, Western Australia. Published underground journal 'Sacred Cow' and distributed in school.

Continued to publish underground magazine 'Revolt!' in 1971, and distribute in high schools in Perth. Arrested in Perth for protesting against South African rugby team during tour of 1971. Jailed for one month in late 1971 for throwing a shit bomb in St George's Cathedral in Perth.

In 1972 experimented with hallucinogenic drugs and attracted to counter culture for a while. Magazine co-edited 'King Mob'.

1973 travelled to Melbourne and Sydney. Joined the Young Socialists (youth organisation of the Socialist Labour League) in Sydney. Met Jim Percy at a Socialist Youth Alliance national conference and waspersuaded to join SYA (youth organisation of the Socialist Workers League - supporters of the United Secretariat of the Fourth International).

Returned to Perth WA in early 1974, where there was no branch of the SWL/SYA. Having not resolved the political issues involved in the dispute within the world Trotskyist movement I remained unaffiliated after I resigned from the SWL and SYA. I edited and published a journal, 'The Socialist Bulletin' in late 1974, which declared its solidarity with the United Secretariat of the Fourth International.

I was active in a SYA club at the University of Western Australia alongside the current National Secretary of the Democratic Socialist Perspective, Peter Boyle, and two other comrades. However, there was no branch of SYA or the SWL in Perth and I chose to concentrate on study.

In 1977 I attended an SYA Conference in Melbourne with Anthea Parker. When the Socialist Workers Party (as it had become called) decided to establish a branch in Perth I joined the party after returning from a year overseas and was active in the branch for nearly two years. For most of that time I sat on the branch executive and held the portfolios of education director, 'Direct Action' sales director, and 'DA' copy director. I also organised two subscription drives for the weekly paper (DA). I worked in industry in 1980, in a tractor factory and a foundry.

Towards the end of 1980 I transferred to Sydney branch and worked briefly as a journalist on 'Direct Action'. I suffered a breakdown in my health and spent time in hospital, and returned to Perth at the end of 1980. I hoped to be able to return to active involvement in the struggle and returned to Sydney in early 1981. I felt obliged to resign membership of the party but continued to write articles for 'Direct Action'.

In 1982 I returned to Perth and decided, when my efforts to rejoin the SWP (DSP) proved fruitless, to prepare to go back to university and finish my Honours year. My health was pretty unpredictable, but I finished my Honours over three years with a dissertation on Lenin's 'The State and Revolution'. I won a University scholarship to work on a Master's degree in History, and chose for my topic 'Trotsky's Analysis of Stalinism'. I completed the thesis in 1993 and received a pass.

In 2003, during the mass mobilisations against the invasion of Iraq, I saw the opportunity of rejoining the revolutionary movement, in the form of the Socialist Alliance, which was organised to regroup the far left at the beginning of the new millennium. I was accepted as a member and continue to be active in the Alliance.

- September 2, 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham MIlner (talk • contribs) 16:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That's nice. Do you have a question for the help desk? --Fredrick day 16:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not the place for personal biographies.--Max Talk (+) 00:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Autobiography. Also see WikiBios, where anyone may write an autobiography, without the bother of Wikipedia's notability requirements. --Teratornis 03:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Unlocking attachments

I have important document's that I have been trying to unlock, however i'm having no luck. I have tried everything possible and just don't know what else to do. Please Help!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.233.128.154 (talk) 19:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean documents on your own computer, then you need to ask on our reference desk. The Help desk is for questions about Wikipedia itself.

Now, if you're asking about unlocking pages on Wikipedia, then your best bet is to first ask on the article's Talk page. If you post there about the changes you want to make, someone should be able to add it in for you, provided it's relevant to the article and properly cited. -- 68.156.149.62 19:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I place the "biassed article" warning label on a page?

I think the entry for Sir Arthur Bryant should have the same warning label that appears above the entry for Douglas MacArthur.

Philiphurst 19:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

That particular template is {{NPOV}}. In case you aren't familiar with templates, you go in to edit the article as you would any other article. You place that text at the top along with any other templates. It will automatically expand into the warning. --Moonriddengirl 19:42, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

citation question

I have a question on which of two formats is preferred. I asked at WT:FOOT and nobody seemed to know. Please only answer if you know which format is correct. Both are in use in different places.

• Version 1: Blah blah (blah blah blah.¹) blah blah.
• Version 2: Blah blah (blah blah blah.)² blah blah.

I know they go after the sentence punctuation, but should it go inside or outside the parentheses? Does it matter? --JayHenry 19:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I've not been able to find a hard-and-fast rule on this. My personal feeling is that if the footnote/citation only applies to the content inside the parenthesis, then it goes inside the parenthesis. If it applies to the entire sentence, then it should go outside the parenthesis.

That said, I'd have to actually pull out a style handbook to see what they say, but even those are likely going to contradict each other. - 68.156.149.62 19:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

If you happen to have one, Wikipedia follows the Chicago Manual of Style on notes. I don't have a CMS. I do have Turabian, but can't put my hands on it at the moment. I believe you're correct, but somewhere in the manual it will probably say. --Moonriddengirl 20:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

In that case, we have an answer!. The footnote goes after the closing parenthesis... most of the time. D'oh. -- 68.156.149.62 21:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I've always gone by what looks better.  :-) --Max Talk (+) 00:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Flagging for style

I've forgotten the template to flag something for having unwikilike style. Could someone please flag Bioregionalism for me? Capitalization, style, etc., is all off, and I'm afraid I don't have time to go through and do the editing myself. Cheers, samwaltz 20:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

done. The template is {{wikify}}, btw. Cheers. --דניאל - Dantheman531 20:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:BLP interpretation requested

Interpretation requested:

• WP:BLP talks about "unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material" and some of the templates refer to questionable material which is unsourced or poorly sourced. How do you assess what is "contentious" or "questionable". For example, I came across an article on Clifford Olson, a serial killer. Everyone knows he brutally killed a number of people: this is neither "contentious" nor "questionable" material. But when dealing with a BLP, should not such statements still be credibly sourced?
• The most innocuous example I found in this page was the statement that Olson killed 11 people. This statement is unsourced so the correct number could be fifteen or five, for all I know. In my opinion this material should be removed until it is sourced, but because WP:BLP uses words like contentious, the intent of the policy becomes unclear: i.e. it is not contentious that Olson is a murderer, and most people would readily agree with the statements that he was "rumoured to torture and kill animals" or that he was "known as a bully and a show-off", but all of these statements are unsourced.
• I picked this example because I believe all Wikipedia BLP pages should maintain the same Wikipedia standard, even when they are written about the worst "scumbags" on earth.
• Advice on how I should interpret this bit of WP:BLP would be appreciated. Thanks. --- Taroaldo 20:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I 100% agree this is a major problem. However bad someone is, we must not say anything derogatory about them without demanding solidly reliable sources. I'll look at the page and report back. AndyJones 20:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Much of the article seems referenced by "external links"--needs clarification, to be sure. --Moonriddengirl 21:08, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
      • Reporting back. I've looked through the history and this page has never had a reliable source. Someone may have seen your question as they added a {refimprove} tag to the article. That is not good enough. I have removed it and put a {db} tag. Whatever this guy may or may not have done, wikipedia accusing him very publicly of very serious crimes with inadequate sourcing is not acceptable. The article must be removed until it can be restored with adequate sourcing. AndyJones 21:13, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Is CTV Television Network not a reliable source? That was the one inline citation I found when I tagged it refimprove and began looking for more verification. --Moonriddengirl 21:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

• • • • Wikipedia is only supposed to contain information that is verifiable. There have been famous Wikipedia hoaxes, such as one in which an innocent man was stated to be suspected of involvement in the John F. Kennedy assassination. Therefore, even if someone remembers sitting through the trial, or reading about it in the newspaper, an article that says someone was a mass murderer, serial killer, rapist, drug addict, wife beater, syphilitic, pedophile, adulterer, prostitute, criminal, gang member, suspicious character, or professionally incompetent MUST be sourced to WP:RS reliable sources. Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons is an official policy of Wikipedia and bears reading. An article with defamatory material about a living person (and some would say also a recently deceased person) which lacks reliable sources, may be stubbed down to just basic verifiable facts, unless and until someone takes the time to find references to prove the allegations. This article presently has an external link to a website operated by Court TV, an operation of Time-Warner, with a signed article outlining the murders. That is not a bad source. It has two Canadian TV sites as other sources. It does not read like an attack page directed at an innocent person, or like a hoax. It could be improved by inline citations to shown which allegations are sourced to which reference. I would go with improvement rather than deletion at this point. It should not take too much editorial time to match up many of the statements with the appropriate sources and add the needed inline citations. If anything, it should be stubbed rather than deleted. Edison 21:19, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
        • It seems reliable sources have been added in the last few minutes. I think the article has been saved. However WP:BLP should always be applied mercilessly. AndyJones 21:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
          • This is the wrong place for BLP concerns. Suspected BLP violations are best taken to the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard as well as the talk page for the article itself. The article really needs the Court TV material brought in via inline citations. Then any allegation of wrongdoing that is not backed up by any of the present the 3 reliable references should be deleted if a serious allegation of wrongdoing or at least tagged with {{fact}} if a less contentious statement, so that someone might check Newsbank, Proquest, or newspaper backissues on microfilm (the imprisonment occurred before the era of most newspapers having electronic archives) to see if the claim can be documented. Exculpatory information, if any, from reliable sources should also be added. The same standards apply to someone one might think was railroaded or someone one thinks is satan's own disciple. It is also better as a matter of NPOV and style to say someone was a "convicted" or "admitted" murderer rather than flatly stating he was a murderer, since there are literally hundreds of well documented cases of "murderers" who were later shown to be falsely convicted. Wikipedia is not a tabloid with lurid headlines about "fiends." Edison 21:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
            • • I think it is the right place to ask a general question about an interpretation. The Olson article was used as an example. There has been no dispute with another editor which would require posting on the Noticeboard. Also, I do not believe that CourtTV is a solid source. I have seen a few of their crime articles, and many of them read like articles from tabloid rags. Can you write salacious statements about someone in a WP:BLP as long as you cite a media source which contained the same salacious statement? I think media sources, for one, need to be used judiciously. --- Taroaldo 22:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

• I'm very uncomfortable with the CourtTV information. It's shockingly lurid. I have neutralized the tone of the "murders" section sourced by it and am considering clipping the "early life" section out, as CourtTV is the only source for much of that. --Moonriddengirl 22:11, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I really don't think the Help Desk is the place for this discussion. If it needs continued, please do so on the Village pump policy page. -- 68.156.149.62 23:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

September 3

Why is my IP address blocked?

I was trying to access the help desk when it was said that my ip address was blocked as it was believed that i was using a zombie computer. Also, i was banned from editing pages. To what i know, i haven't edit any pages in wikipedia, so why am i banned and also, why do i keep on receiving messages saying that i have been posting nonsense on wikipedia? One example given is the odex page. I had not visit that page before till just now, so how could i possibly have edited and posted nonsense on that page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.120.68.69 (talk) 01:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Your IP address is shared by multiple users, and one or more of them were vandalizing. You can avoid receiving these messages by creating an account.--Max Talk (+) 01:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Replacing fictional bio with more important actual person's bio

The page on Peter Reilly is currently about a fictional character from a television show. I feel that the main article related to this name should be on the real-life Peter Reilly who was falsely arrested for the murder of his mother after police extracted a false confession from him after 16 hours in custody.

I have more information on the actual case regarding the false imprisonment of the real life Peter Reilly. I feel that the main article for this name should be on the real person, not the fake. How would I set that up? Coolgamer 01:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Other than a single news event, what is the real-life Peter Reilly known for? WikiNews is for news events (and people who are notable for a single news event). -- Kainaw^(what?) 01:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is more then notable enough to be worth a bio on Wikipedia. The case made national news and played a part in changing how confessions were allowed in court cases in the future. 86,600 Google hits, and books regarding the landmark trial and re-trial were made. A documentary was made about his case, as seen at http://www.truthinjustice.org/peter-reilly.htm . Coolgamer 01:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ec - If the case itself is notable, make a page about the case. Our guidlines on Biographies of Living Persons are very important, and someone only known for a single event in their lives is often not going to satisfy that policy. A neutral article on the case itself may be worthwhile, however. Focus on the article about the case, not the person. -- 68.156.149.62 02:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I need help in creating a new account

69.137.95.35 01:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)It keeps telling me it does not recognize my user name. eileenhargis and password redacted. Please help me get on this site. email redacted

Considering anyone who can view this page (and its history) now knows the password to that account, I suggest you create a new one. -- 68.156.149.62 02:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

From the look of things you were trying to sign into an account that you never actually created. User:Eileenhargis has never been registered. Were you trying to enter your name and password into this page? That page is only for logging into existing accounts. To create an account, you need to go to this page and follow the instructions. And yes, 68.156.149.62 is right, please don't use the password you told us. It is an extremely bad idea to let anyone else know your password. Raven4x4x 04:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Removing Speedy Deletion Templates

Are admins really the only ones that can do this? I removed one (from a page I didn't create, mind you) because the article didn't meet speedy deletion criteria (my edit told the other editor to submit to AfD) and was warned for it, being told only admin can remove speedy deletion criteria?

In addition, the warning told me that "as the originator of the article" I could not remove an SD template. I didn't originate the article. Or even care about it. I just noticed it didn't meet SD criteria.

So...it's really a two parter...can only admin remove Speedy Deletion templates...even if the article doesn't meet SD criteria? And...can I remove a faulty warning from my page? Smashville 05:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Anybody but the creator can remove Speedy tags if they have a legit reason.--Max Talk (+) 05:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

yes, you can. Tell the person that told you that that it only applies to the creator of the article, and that if they want it gone that badly WP:AFD is still there --lucid 05:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The above are correct. Anyone but the creator can remove CSD tags from an article, provided they are not CSD. As for your second question, you can remove anything you wish from your talk page. i ^said 05:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Article sections for biographies

Okay, I'm looking but not finding...

Here's the issue: The Joe Nathan article includes a couple pieces of personal information (seen here). It's been worked into the sections of the article where chronologically appropriate.

Here's my question: The sections, as you will note are all titled "career" in some form or another. It's been my experience that biographies include "Personal life" sections or the like. Is this in a guide somewhere or is it just sort of a standard? Does it not really matter? I like the way it's been worked into the article. It reads very well, but I don't like that it clashes with the section titles.

Anyway, this is part of a GA review, so I welcome the opinions and help of others. I've looked over the relevant guides, but I can't find anything. Regards, LARA♥LOVE 05:01, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Anarchism

How the heck did this article get deleted? Murderbike 06:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's coming back, not permanently gone. Some moronic vandal went and made a heap of mess (he didn't delete the article, though) and so deleting the article (which can be restored fully, with the whole edit history and talk page) was the only option. Sebi _[talk] 06:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Webpage is not displayed properly after login.

Hi,

I have an account with Wikipedia. I am facing a problem when I log on to Wikipedia site. After logging on the website, the page is not displayed properly. I think this is a problem with the "Skin". I was playing with changing the GUI display from SKIN,and after that I was getting this error.

After logging to the Wikimedia page, the website has white background and link in left size. The fonts on the page (for link as well as for other contents) is quite big.

However, I am able to see the proper Wikipedia GUI if I log out. So, it seems that there must be certain settings (skin, color or font settings) associated with my account.

Can you please restore this settings to default.

Regards, Ashish Patel Login Name: zoom2ashish Mail: (removed to prevent spam) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoom2ashish (talk • contribs) 07:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

We cannot change your skin without your password (and don't give that to anybody). Go to Special:Preferences. Click "Skin", then "MonoBook (default)" and "Save". PrimeHunter 11:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How to make a userpage

how do i make a userpage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamjohnnie8 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Click on your username and add what you want to the blank space, you should also look at WP:USERPAGE--$UIT 07:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

ghargaon and pathwada

i cant find out my village named ghargaon and pathwada. Please tell how can i find it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bishtjayvir (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The articles don't exist. You could create them if you want--$UIT 08:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Suppressing summary

Hi, how do I suppress the content summary in a page? I read somewhere that I can do it, but can't find out how... thanks -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 10:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to; what part of a page is it that you don't want to see? --ais523 10:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to put __NOTOC__ in the top of the page. See WP:TOC for more info. Kevin 10:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Renegade Consulting

Hello Wikipedia

I have recently opend an account so I can put information re my company, Renegade Consulting Pty Ltd (Australian based). To start with I have tried to edit the 'Renegade' page but it keeps getting removed. I assume this is because I am doing something wrong, can you help me please.

Thanks,

James Hutchins Renegade Consulting

Renegade consulting 10:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating an article with info on the company you own/working at is regarded as violation of neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV). If your company is notable, someone will create the article for you sooner or later. Remember Wikipedia is NOT an advertising space. -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 10:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It is also a conflict of interest. :-) Stwalkerster talk 10:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Responded at length on user's talk page. --Dweller 10:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Does he get the orange "new message" thingy even if he's not a registered user? hmm -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 10:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the answer to that is 'sometimes'. See bug 9213 for information about the new-messages-to-anons bug. (The answer ought to be 'yes', but something's wrong with the code and the bar doesn't always come up.) --ais523 11:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating an article that has the same name as one that already exists

I'm wanting to create a Biographical article about the British Jazz Pianist Matthew Bourne. Unforchunatly there exists an article on a British ballet and dance choreographer of the same name (Matthew_Bourne). How do I go about creating a seperate article for the Pianist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattroberts66 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

You create the new article under a name like Matthew Bourne (pianist), then place an {{otheruses4}} template at the top of each of the two conflicting articles, so that people who find the wrong one can navigate to the right one (see Template talk:Otheruses4 for instructions). --ais523 13:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia:Disambiguation. --Teratornis 15:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Status Bot Help?

Can someone help me on my userpage please? I'm having a bit of trouble adding statusbot to my userpage.

Thanks, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak out loud!} 14:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wait 5 minutes, and then check again; StatusBot doesn't have a perfect reaction time, and it takes it some time to react to a user signing up. (By the way, you had two status indicators on your userpage; I've removed one of them for you.) --ais523 14:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

LogMeIn, Inc

My company, LogMeIn, Inc. used to have a presence on Wikipedia. A search last week, however showed that the page no longer exists.

We can, of course, recreate a page, but we would like to know why the original entry was deleted. Is it possible to find out who deleted the original entry. There is little point in doing something only for it to disappear again.

Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LogMeInAndy (talk • contribs) 14:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Just click on a link to the page (here's one: LogMeIn), and you'll get information showing you which administrator deleted it and why. It seems there was a deletion discussion about the article (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LogMeIn), and then it was recreated and deleted after that. If you disagree with the deletion, or think you have new evidence, see Wikipedia:Deletion review to request a review of the deletion. --ais523 14:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

See also: Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? --Teratornis 15:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Development of three germinal layers

development of three germinal layers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.135.238.95 (talk) 15:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? PrimeHunter 16:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like you're trying to research something - if this is the case, you'd be much better off asking a clearer question at the Reference Desk, which specializes in research. We're mainly here to help you use Wikipedia. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

renaming account

I used to be Francesca Allan of MindFreedomBC. However, there is currently no MindFreedomBC. Therefore, I'd like to change my account name to Francesca Allan. I can't remember my password -- do you have a prompt question? Mother's maiden name, etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.67.136 (talk) 15:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC) 24.69.67.136 15:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing you mean User:Francesca Allan of MindFreedomBC. If you don't know your password, Wikipedia should provide you with a mechanism to recover your password (using your email account registered with it). If that isn't possible (say you forgot the password to your email), you're kind of stuck. In this situation, you may as well just register User:MindFreedomBC. If you can regain control of your account, then see WP:CHU and follow instructions there to request a name change. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I've sent a password reminder to the email you originally used when signing up for that account (for security reasons, we can't send a new password anywhere else); if you receive it, you should be able to log in and will then be able to request a username change at WP:CHU. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Q-zar

I did a search on Q-zar, and your web site was second in line. I am the sole owner of Q-zar Systems. JR Robles. The history section claims that JR Robles, and Tim Foster purchased Q-zar equipment from John Jarvis. I Purchased the equipment from Mr. Jarvis soley. Tim Foster was merely contract labor for my company. (Q-zar Systems) I'm the sole owner of the DBA, bank accounts, leases ect... I purchased over one thousand vest with network units, and charging systems, score boards, and timers from Mr. Jarvis. The information published on your site claims we only purchased 180 vest. Please make these changes to acurately reflect Q-zar Systems.

I can be reached (contact details removed to protect you from spammers) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.224.218 (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest posting your concerns on the article's talk page, where you're more likely to attract the attention of someone active with the editing of that page. Thank you for not making these edits yourself, as being the owner you would have a conflict of interest which we work to avoid, however we do greatly appreciate your help in pointing out mistakes such as these. If you can provide some easily verifiable source for this information, I'm sure someone would be happy to correct the information. Thanks! Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Free use the any powerfull telescope for euducation.

Hello wikipedia support team, I beg to drow your kind attantion that i want to free use the any powerfull telescope for my won exprience or euducation. I am indian so pleace hallp me. My E-mail-<email removed for privacy>

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukdevadhikary (talk • contribs) 16:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't think you're at the right place. Wikipedia doesn't own any powerful telescopes, and certainly none in India. I've removed your email address so you don't get spam, but I'm afraid that's really all we can do to help. If you had a specific telescope in mind, I would suggest contacting the owners of said telescope and checking with them. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

• However, if you mean you want permission to use an encyclopedia article on Wikipedia for educational purposes, please do. You may copy, modify & redistribute all Wikipedia content as long as you grant "the same freedoms to others" and acknowledge the authors of the article used. See Wikipedia:Copyrights for more about this policy and how to satisfy its requirements. --Moonriddengirl 17:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Information box

There is an information box 'STUCKISM' at the bottom of the page Stuckism. I want to add to it, but when I click edit, you can't see it. How can I edit it? Kipof 17:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

It's at Template:Stuckism. KTC 17:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Got it. Kipof 17:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think someone is hacking into my account.

I have noticed VO pages I've never heard of on my watchlist. I think someone is hacking into my account. What should I do? Henchman 2000 17:43, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Check the move log for the pages you've never heard of. It's quite possible that someone decided to engage in some page-move vandalism, in which case both the original page and the page it was vandalise-moved to will end up on your watchlist. (If they were page-move vandalism targets, you can safely just remove them from your watchlist.) --ais523 17:47, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Reading Old Deleted Articles

Is there any way to access an archive of deleted articles? I'm guessing the answer is probably no. 68.54.42.126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.42.126 (talk) 18:10, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is something that in most cases only admins can do. But if you had your article deleted and for some reason it is believed that in the future the article could be included in Wikipedia, the admin who decided to delete the article will usually create a copy of that page on your userspace for you to store and improve until all requisites (e.g. notability req. for people) are satisfied. -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 18:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, it's not my article, it's just something from last year a class apparently made mocking a teacher titled the "Doc Roc Theorem" or something along those lines. In any event, are you saying I could ask a mod for that deleted article and just keep it for myself without posting it?68.54.42.126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.42.126 (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know, it's possible, especially if you know what the exact title was, although admins are AFAIK usually very busy and may not have time for something that's not meant to improve Wikipedia ;). -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 19:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing to a page not having an 'Edit' tab

How can we add the name of our business, Moses Carbon Graphite, for inclusion in this page on 'guitars', specifically to be included as a major producer of C/F composite necks?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar

Steve Mosher President Moses Carbon Graphite —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.183.238 (talk) 18:11, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia is not an advertising space and conflict of interest before you edit any article. Thanks. KTC 18:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Cities on Wikipedia

This is more of a curiosity: does Wikipedia aim to cover EVERY SINGLE town / city / municipality in the world and to have an article for each and every single one of them? -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 18:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

No. Only notable towns should be included, but it is difficult to remove non-notable towns. For example, there is absolutely nothing notable about Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, but there is an article about it - complete with history. -- Kainaw^(what?) 19:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

At least it has 60,000 people in it... it's very common to find much much smaller cities like Pancalieri, Pavarolo, Quagliuzzo, Claviere etc., and I also found many others with ~500 inhabitants that state no notability at all... is there a notability guideline for cities? I couldn't find it... thanks -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 20:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

pronouncing non english words

It would be great to set as a standard any time that a word is used, a pronunciation next to it in order to help the reader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.121.130.84 (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Why (hwī) would (wood) we (wee) want (wŏnt) that (thāt) ? -- Kainaw^(what?) (kānô)^(hwŏt) 19:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

How to create a wiki page with Tabs

Hi , How do I create a wiki page with tabs. e.g. the tabs on all pages like project, decsription, history etc. . Thanks Obelixwiki 18:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

This is for questions about using wikipedia, but I have a wiki on Editthis.info you just select a name and press create. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 18:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)