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DYK & ITN

This user has written or expanded 233 articles featured in the Did You Know section on the Main Page.




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The 25 DYK Medal
For achieving your 25th Did You Know? I hereby award you this big fat medal. Well done. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The 50 DYK Medal
Trams, mills, railways ... I think Isambard would have been proud of your approach particulary the French ideas, but he would have barred our veteran editor from further progression for supporting a railway that was merely a metre. But he's not here! So more seriously, thank you on behalf of the wiki. (Let me tell you though that the 100 one s a really cool yellowy gold colour). Good luck with the GA and cheers Victuallers (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The 100 DYK Medal  
As I told you at 50 ... the 100 DYK medal is a really cool shade of yellow. I hope you are not disappointed, as the wiki is not regretful at all of your efforts. Well done. The wiki gets better due to your contributions and its a pleasure to thank you again on behalf of the wiki. See you at 200? Victuallers (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The 200 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
The D.Y.K. Project thanks you for your tireless contributions. The Interior (Talk) 17:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for PS Castalia

Thank you for thanking me. I actually noticed only one of the typos, but I use Firefox and it apparently spellchecks everything by default. When I went into edit mode, not only was the error I noticed underlined with a wavy line, so were other things. I had to sort out the genuine mistakes from a lot of "false positives"; I hope I didn't change anything that was right.

You are obviously a very active contributor to Wikipedia. I am mostly a consumer -- I benefit from the work you and others like you do. Thank you very much.

I have no idea whether this is the right place for this comment. You replied to my talk page and this is your talk page, so I hope it is. If not, you will move it. Gms3591 (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Want to expand Peace in Africa for a DYK?

Hi Mjroots, you and Haus seem to have good access to merchant marine sources. Want to expand Peace in Africa (ship) for DYK? Djembayz (talk) 11:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any additions to Malahat (schooner) at DYK?

Hi again! I've put in a self nom for Malahat (schooner) at DYK. Perhaps you can spruce it up a bit. Djembayz (talk) 21:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of 1912 Brooklands Flanders Monoplane crash

Hello! Your submission of 1912 Brooklands Flanders Monoplane crash at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Chris857 (talk) 02:38, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. Chris857 (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Admin

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Track gauge editor: sock?

Hi, do you thing that HTML2011 (talk · contribs) who started editing very recently, has concentrated on two areas (HTML and rail gauges) and who has already started twelve RMs, is a sock of TrackConversion (talk · contribs)? --Redrose64 (talk) 12:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some disruptive editing

Hey, mj, I was hoping you might be able to take a look at the 2012 Formula One season and Talk:2012 Formula One season pages. A user, Colinmotox11 has been making some edits that have been disruptive. I posted a message on his Talk page that I think is a fair summary of the events of the past 24 hours. Basically, he has been making unsubstantiated edits to the page, ignoring preliminary consensus on the issue, undoing any subsequent reversions, using contradictory arguments to justify it and accusing members who disagree with him of violating WP:OWN. While his intentions are good - he only wants to make the page accurate - his methods and his attitude are completely unnecessary. I don't know if there is anything you or the other administrators can do, but I don't think we've heard the last of him on this matter. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, mj. I knew I could count on you. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 07:20, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, mj, sorry to bother you again, but can you please take a look at Colinmotox11 again? He's trying to force through changes to the 2012 Formula One season by claiming he has got consensus for them, but reading over the arguments posted on the talk page, it's clear that consensus is against him: four people support his changes, and seven do not. Can you please do something about this, because he's dangerously close to violating the three-edit rule.

Furthermore, I feel that his edits set a dangerous precedent. His footnotes in the driver table essentially create a scenario where the table says one thing, and then he gets out of it by saying something else entirely at the bottom of the table, explaining why content should not be included in the article. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 21:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was there a consensus for this move? I saw nothing but "oppose" but move went through anyway? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

See Canadian Parliamentary Motion 37/1-1205

Don't know what happened here, but it appears to be a "midnight" move when no one was watching. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 06:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Move protection

I'm uninvolved with whatever quarrel is going on over the article currently at Action of 25 January 2012, but the absurdity of this title has come up in at least two discrete ITN discussions. Would you mind at least giving it some vaguely identifiable name until those warring can work out their differences? I know that's going against protocol, but in this situation anything other than the status quo seems like a clear common sense exception.   — C M B J   08:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the precedent you're referring to, but I cannot personally see using "action" as a static term ("action {date}") as opposed to {action} as a descriptive variable ("{action} {date}") for any article like this. But even if that's true, it's still an affront to common sense and in direct opposition to WP:NCE, which recommends that articles such as this follow the "{when} {where} {what}" variable format. Additionally, the current title goes against WP:STRONGNAT, which prescribes "{month} {day}, {year}" for American topics. I'm aware that it's generally bad mojo for an intervening administrator to take a position in this kind of setting, but again I think we're dealing with an IAR situation.   — C M B J   08:52, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm not saying that you've erred in trying to prevent an edit war -- I'm simply reaffirming the views of other contributors that the current name is demonstrably baseless and is interfering with a time-sensitive process (ITN), one that WP:RM wasn't ever designed to accommodate. There is no reason why an interim name—any sane name—cannot be used until those users work out their differences. As a side note, the fact that something this blatantly wrong is even a point of contention at or beyond WP:AN astonishes me. The situation at hand is nothing less than bedlamitic; it's the functional equivalent of someone creating an article named Weather Event January 24 and then successfully vetoing a rename to Cyclone Funso, or any alternative, such as Intense Tropical Cyclone Funso, or Tropical Cyclone Funso, or Cyclone Funso (2012), for the same invalid reasons and in spite of the same unequivocal guideline and during the same type of 5-day nomination debate. It's so disruptive that it's now the subject of broader debate in a discussion about the future of ITN.   — C M B J   13:08, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Favor

Could you change the protection level on Phil Mickelson? An administrator put it in full lockdown. I contacted[1] that administrator but he hasn't replied. It just needs semi protection from IPs....William 16:48, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Nick has this in hand. Will leave it to him to action. Mjroots (talk) 16:54, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Root and Branch

Hello, The article Root and Branch was moved by me to Root and Branch legislation. As another editor objected to this I wanted to move it again to Root and Branch Petition but this was not permitted. If you agree perhaps you could do what is necessary to move it.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 19:19, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Mjroots (talk) 19:32, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 20:05, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aviation

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Dead links in article 'Alaska Coastal Airlines'

Hi. The article 'Alaska Coastal Airlines' has some dead links that could not be repaired automatically. Can you help fix them?

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Meters or feet?

Would appreciate your clarification at Talk:Mount_Salak_Sukhoi_Superjet_100_crash#Meters_or_feet.3F. Jpatokal (talk) 11:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of accidents and incidents involving the DC-3 in the 1960s

I'm going to enter the yearly crashes into this and the other decades articles and then make all the yearly articles as redirects. The yearly articles often only have one entry.

WP:See Also says 'The "See also" section should not link to pages that do not exist (red links) nor to disambiguation pages (unless used for further disambiguation in a disambiguation page)'. I removed the See Also redlinks in this article....William 20:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd prefer that you comment out redlinks. If a list only has a single entry, then that entry should be moved to the decade list pending creation of a full list. These lists are a long-term project but will be got round to in due course. Mjroots (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My talk page asks that you reply where the discussion started, so please do that in the future. What do you mean by comment out the redlinks? The decade articles, 60's and 70's are just massive links to the yearly articles which from the few I looked have little content. Put the crashes in the decades articles and make the yearlys redirects at this point looks better that what we have now. It can always be undone....William 21:18, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To comment text out, use <!-- before the commented out text, and --> after it. Mjroots (talk) 21:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Important information on 2010 Polish Air Force Tu-154 crash

Traces of explosives (TNT and Nitroglycerin) on the wreck
Proposal IV
Voyt13 (talk) 11:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Cargolux Flight 7933 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cargolux Flight 7933 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Asking for your input on a matter

Over at the Wikiproject Aviation/Aviation accident task force page [2]. You were chosen by myself because of your past work or input on aviation crash articles. Thank you for the help....William 11:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Questions about Dutch version of El Al report

I found that http://web.archive.org/web/20090205093738/http://verkeerenwaterstaat.nl/kennisplein/uploaded/MIN/2005-07/39448/ElAl_flight_1862.pdf says that the English report of the El Al Flight 1862 (Bijlmer Disaster) accident is the original, and that the Dutch translation would be issued later.

Do you know where the Dutch report is? I'm trying to see if anybody knows where a copy of the Dutch translation is located.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 00:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Merpati Nusantara Airlines Flight 6517 for deletion

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Airports names

Hi Mjroots, sorry to bother you but I really don't know where to ask. Can you direct me to the right talk page to find out what criterias are being used for titols of articols regarding airports? Just to give you an idea, the articol about Rome's Fiumicino airport at the moment is Leonardo da Vinci–Fiumicino Airport and like this many other airport names have been changed/moved randomly (this is my impression) without I can work out the criterias used. Many thanks!--Sal73x (talk) 07:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) That's a bit of an odd choice to use as an example actually, as the only move in the last four and a half years that wasn't reverted was the "hyphen hysteria" of changing to an endash. But anyway, WP:COMMONNAME and WP:USEENG apply first and foremost - what is the airport's most commonly used name in English? If there isn't one, then the "official" name should be used. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(Oh, and Mjroots, you might want to archive your talk page, the 315kb size causes mucho lag!) - The Bushranger One ping only 08:00, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It sounds easy but the thrut is that it's more complicated than that. The problem is that an user has moved several articols and to fix the problem I have to "Requested move". Before doing that I wanted to check with other users how we ended with the current situation. Thanks Bushranger, your help is appreciated.--Sal73x (talk) 08:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Geotags, Grid refs etc,

Geo Links and Geograph

There are problems with your suggestion- which is the reason I haven't done it. There is a discussion forum Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates that is discussing the whole thing. The crux is that many people are unhappy if the link goes to one site, no matter how useful, and believes that the link should only go to GeoHack, where the reader can choose the map they want. There are a lot of unhappy people there. I have a problem with the way we are doing the conversion. It looks great, but if we edit either gridref or the location then the other doesn't change. In looking for a solution, I have been looking at the maths and a lot doesn't add up, this coupled with the volatility of forum, I have been hanging back. ClemRutter (talk) 18:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, and thanks for the contact. To me this looks good, but (and it is a big but) I'm afraid the issue appears more complex and contentious than I had first anticipated. I'm also not particularly "clued-up" about which system is good and which is bad, which seems to be part of an ongoing debate. All I know is that there should be a standard system, and these should be included as part of the text for settlements in the UK. Have you taken this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates? -- Jza84 · (talk) 23:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox geotags- looks as it will take some time. Its on my list! ClemRutter (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Checking inline geotags

  • Now the accuracy of OStoWiki has been corrected (+/- 2m) all previous references may need tweaking.
  • The GeoHack tool now has a new interface and at the bottom of the GB section, under the dangerously inaccurate grid reference is a fantastic tool called Map of all Coordinates in article.
  • I tried it on the Loose stream, and because of it I I'm going to make another tweak to OStoWiki.

ClemRutter (talk) 21:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is perfectly safe to use: the next tweak will be an enhancementClemRutter (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oscoor

Thanks for the reminder. Although I use OS maps within multimap to find things, multimap gives DMS output, and the numbering of the OS gridlines in the display tends to be hidden; so I tend to think I'm not ever going to use {{oscoor}}. However your intervention did cause me to go back and read the national grid system article, so as to understand the resolution of various lengths of OS coordinate. As I would not have done this without your intervention; thanks! --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with gbmapping and oscoor templates

Hi, There seems to be a small inaccuracy in the translation of OSGB coords to WGS84. I've mentioned it here and here but haven't found anyone who might be able to fix it. Do you know where it would be best to raise it, please?--Cavrdg (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grid refs

I did not like having to display grid refs without spaces. At long last I have got round to asking someone and doing this very simple edit. The php that it calls was already prepared to receive spaces. That means you could do this edit to other articles that call oscoor (which is now a redirect). But certainly, I suggest using {{gbmappingsmall}} in any future case. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 18:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have now implemented oscoor elimination as a tool - see Template talk:oscoor. — [[::User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] (talk · contribs) 19:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Geograph

Moved from my user page
Yes indeed! A terrific place for browsing old memories and old haunts as well! Thanks for the reminder. Palmeira (talk) 17:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, the FAQ says CC-BY-SA-2.0 but I think that should still usable. We just have to maintain attribution. LeadSongDog come howl! 03:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mills

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Windmill in War Horse film

Hello Mjroots. I see you are a windmill expert. I have done some work on the locations for War Horse (film), and wonder if you could identify the windmill (?post mill) in the trailer? It appears at 1:29 trailer on YouTube. It's definitely in the UK as all location filming was done there; more than that I know not. I'm assuming it's not a built set as it would surely be cheaper to film at an existing one rather than build one. I know I'd have to find a RS to back up any identification information before putting it into the article, but if you can identify it, it might help me narrow down my search for suitable articles! Thanks Stronach (talk) 14:50, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I had assumed not because Speilberg had said that the only CGI in the film was in a trench warfare scene with a horse, for its safety. Stronach (talk) 15:07, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure it's CGI; the spars for the sails don't line up properly, but are staggered, and the postmill is too close to the trees. It's also rotating a bit quick considering the state of the sails, and the body of the mill isn't weatherboarded, the surrounding ground doesn't have a circular track where the miller would walk as he rotated the mill. The obturation of the field guns is woefully defective (note the explosion of smoke beneath each gun as it fires). The main street in the cardboard version of Lower Slaughter is too narrow. The MG08s are firing too slowly- the belt in the foreground doesn't seem to move up into the gun. The stahlhelms aren't camouflaged. Ning-ning (talk) 16:04, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Flicked through a copy of "War Horse, the making of the motion picture" yesterday and it's clear from the photographs that it is "real", in the sense of being a full-sized 3-dimensional physical object, albeit a set for the film, the "tail" ladder runs up to a door in the side of the mill. The text says it was built on the Stratfield Saye estate. Ghughesarch (talk) 15:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translation for stichting?

What would be the best translation for Stichting De Fryske Mole? Most dictionaries say foundation, however in most Frisian windmill-related articles here it is translated as Frisian Mills Society. Trust would not be correct but I think is the British analogue to the Dutch stichting. My suggestion would be Frisian Mills Foundation. Reboelje (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I tried to fix the dead links in 'List of windmills in Loire-Atlantique', but there was one that I couldn't fix. I marked it with {{Dead link}}. Can you help fix the last dead link?


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Re: Montefiore Windmill

Maybe I will ask Dijkstra to upload a picture to commons, once he is back home and has had a chance to cool down (his employee calls the working conditions inhuman because of the the heat :D ). I'm also hoping for someone to write an article in the windmill literature so we can use that as source and clean up the probably short lived refs to local newspapers etc. Reboelje (talk) 19:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Goliath

Hi Mjroots, heb jij tijd/zin om een vertaling danwel nieuw artikel te maken over nl:Goliath (molen), dit omdat een serie over de molen heeft gewonnen in de documentaire-prijs van Wiki Loves Monuments, en de foto van de molen zelf ook in de top 10 van beste foto's staat? Akoopal (talk) 21:45, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Het Pink

Hi Mjroots, nog een vertaalverzoekje, ik wil op mijn molen een QR-pedia code gaan zetten, daarvoor zou het erg helpen een engels artikel te hebben over nl:Het Pink. Is dat iets waar jij tijd voor hebt? Zo niet laat het ook weten natuurlijk. Akoopal (talk) 13:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

People

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Hugh Kennard

Nice expansion. You should add yourself to the DYK nomination and let someone else review it—you deserve credit, not least since it was your idea to write an article on the bloke in the first place. Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:19, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Buckle

Could you take a look at this Commons conversation between myself and a Commons admin and let me know what to do with this image? My choices, I think, at this moment are leave licensed as is, switch (slightly) to {{PD-USGov}} or switch to {{PD-US}}. - NeutralhomerTalkCoor. Online Amb'dor • 14:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Poor Man's talkback. - NeutralhomerTalkCoor. Online Amb'dor • 14:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another talk back, same page and section. - NeutralhomerTalkCoor. Online Amb'dor • 15:17, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps you can help. User:Anythingyouwant has removed this image from the Frank Buckles page and added this image from commons. Same image, just different name....and different licensing. Mine as what we discussed and his has {{PD-USGov}}. Since he has been an insane help on the article, I don't want to cause any trouble, but I don't feel I am explaining this as best as I can that we can't use the image he has uploaded. To make matters worse, User:Canadian Paul seems to disagree that the image I uploaded is fair-use and it should be {{PD-US}} (see here). I don't know what to do. - NeutralhomerTalkCoor. Online Amb'dor • 07:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mjroots, please don't mess with the image at commons quite yet. It's clearly PD and belongs there. Neutralhomer and I have been discussing this at my talk page, so please check out the discussion there.Anythingyouwant (talk) 07:50, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Still waiting on the decision about the image over on Commons, going slow. Canadian Paul is going to wait until after the funeral service today (Tuesday) at 4pm EDT before re-reviewing the article, so it remains on hold for 7 days. I have added a couple blurbs about flags being lowered in a couple more states (sadly only 9 states have done so) and a candlelight vigil near his hometown, but other than that, it remains the same. So, feel free to do some searchin' and add some stuff if it isn't already there. Take Care...NeutralhomerTalkCoor. Online Amb'dor • 07:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Searle

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Hawkins

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Felipe Camiroaga

As Camiroaga isn't legally dead, his body hasn't been found and at the moment is only "disappeared", I urge you to not mark his article as a recent death, nor to call him "dead". You are violating the biographies of living people policy by doing that, and additionally, you could be sued if Camiroaga turns out to be alive. None of the bodies have been identified yet, take that into account too.  Diego  talk  19:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know it is impossible that he survived the accident; however, we can't say he died until it's confirmed, for the sake of ethics! :P  Diego  talk  20:06, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Searle's children

Hi Mjroots. Why do you say this is standard info for inclusion? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 10:36, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So there is a parameter for it. If the children were in any way notable. I'll remove them again. Eddaido (talk) 06:53, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind in the least that the infobox shows he had four kids - shows he was (apparently) biologically technically fertile though I'm blessed if I can see why it matters to a reader. I thought the repeat of his parents' names in the infobox was quite surplus to requirements but as its your wish . . .
At some point someone said the article was rather messy and I agree. cheers, Eddaido (talk) 00:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

50th birthday

FYI: Talk:Jim Hawkins (radio presenter)#50th Birthday. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article about Radha Thomas

I am currently working on the Wiki page for Ms Radha Thomas. She is an Indian jazz singer and songwriter. In fact, she is known as a diva in the Indian jazz scene. She previously was with the band Human Bondage and has sung and performed globally. The article is still under development. I haven't completed it or submitted it for review yet. You can have a look at it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Radha_Thomas. I will be requesting your help and advice (as usual) in making it conform to all Wiki standards. If you do a Google Search for Radha (https://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=Radha+Thomas&oq=Radha+Thomas&gs_l=hp.3..0l2j0i30l2.1190.3159.0.3385.12.12.0.0.0.0.282.1949.0j11j1.12.0...0.0...1c.dYmnNUlMsQM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=f6ee012440c72a74&biw=1024&bih=509) you will find dozens of articles and links to her work. As of now, the article is still under development and I will come bug you for help soon! Varunr (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Hope you are feeling better. I think I have completed the article and am contemplating it to move it to the AFC space. Before that, I'd really appreciate if you could have a look and give me some inputs, suggestions and advice and hopefully a green signal :-). Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Radha_Thomas Varunr (talk) 08:55, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

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I've deleted both images. Wikipedia will be poorer without them, but it's not worth a slow edit war to keep them up. Mjroots (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Places

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Borough Green

Moved from User talk:Mjroots2

Please note I am the copyright holder of the main history book for Borough Green, Kent. I note that today I updated the link to the local history site. This had been hosted firstly on freeserve pages, more recently on tiscali. A lionk ( outdated_ to that site was on the wiki page.

Much of the content for the BG page comes from the booklet which is copyright. If you are not going to link to the pages where the history is now hosted I would be grafetul if you would remove the other information. Some of that is in the public domain. Some is copyright.

I fail to see why you have removed the link to the new site hosting anyway without any clear explanation.

Kind regards,

Ian Bangay. son of Frank Bangay who wrote the hsitory of BG , Past and Present — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian48db (talkcontribs) 18:55, 19 February 2011 (UTC) --Ian48db (talk) 19:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hello. I send you this message because I need assistance in one problem. You made in the past a ruling in the discussion about Hungarian names for Romanian places and gave me an advice regarding alternative names of places in articles representing biographies of living persons, so I think you are quite familiarized with this kind of issues.

The thread I am referring is this: [3]. I've tried to prevent an edit war by asking a 3rd opinion from a neutral editor, but the other person replied that "he is not obliged to accept it and and he is not going to". Please intervene in order to defuse this conflict. Thanks in advance (Iaaasi (talk) 12:59, 8 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]

While I am respecting Mjroots' person and am appreciating his admin quality, as far as I know the administrators have no authority for resolving content disputes, but of course Mjroots is also welcome to participate in the discussion, but then his status is not that of an anointed admnistrator, but that of a simple user will be there unless there is a violation of policy going on there. And I also made a reply to what Iaaasi brought up here there: [4]--Nmate (talk) 16:30, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Old British buildings

Hi. I noted your interest in old British buildings and heritage. I've requested a bot to draw up a full list of listed buildings in the UK organized by town/county. Please comment Listed Buildings here and offer your views on whether this would be a good idea or not.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Trinity Theatre

Nice article. It needs an infobox, but which one to use? {{infobox church}} or {{infobox theatre}}, or both? What do you think? Mjroots (talk) 20:49, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Think its better to go with the theatre, as that's what it is now - could do both? Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 21:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ditton

Mjroots, thank you for your comments on my efforts with the Ditton, Kent article. I am fairly new to Wikipedia editing (including writing on Talk pages!), but am willing to give your suggestion a try and - if I fail - I'll contact you again. Your help is appreciated.Panoramaxism (talk) 11:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if you might assess this article again? I know that you looked at it quite recently, on 14 June, but Shaibalalmar and I have done a lot more work since then. Many thanks. Panoramaxism (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mereworth church

I'll start working on this tomorrow; looks like an interesting church. There are some similarities with what happened at Glynde down my way. As it happens, I will be going to Worthing library after work tomorrow; they hold all the Pevsner volumes, so I'll see what comment he made in the Kent edition! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:07, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I had a look in the Pevsner volume (actually written by a different chap; Nikolaus Pevsner only wrote the Foreword!) and there was a lot of material in there, so I will add this tonight. It's considered to be easily the best C18 church in Kent: only one at Faversham comes close, apparently. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 07:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll keep the GA nom on watch. Should stand a decent chance; the lead might need more, but I can try to add a few sentences. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:00, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problems, but one query. Most Church GAs have "St", not "St.". I seem to remember that contractions that end in the final letter of the full word don't take a full stop, see List_of_English_contractions, but I didn't want to move without consultation. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:39, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure, but the dab page has the full stop. I was taught to use the full stop after a contraction, but it was many years ago when we had to use our brains in class, not computers! Mjroots (talk) 13:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No big deal, just wanted to check that you were at least aware that there was an alternative style. My church article actually began "Saint Nicholas... " which is obviously non-standard, so I moved it to "St" (I prefer to omit the full stop, partly because I don't have it for initials in refs, and partly because it looks a bit American these days, like Mr. and Dr.) Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:43, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In British English the correct form is to add a full stop to abbreviations, unless the last letter of the abbreviation is the same as the last letter of the word abbreviated, so "St" is the proper abbrev. for "Saint".
Co.  • abbrev. 1 company. 2 county. (Pearsall 1999, p. 272)
St  • abbrev. 1 Saint. 2 Physics Stokes. 3 Street. (Pearsall 1999, p. 1395)
  • Pearsall, Judy, ed. (1999). The Concise Oxford Dictionary (Tenth ed.). Oxford: Oxford University Press. ISBN 0 19 860259 6. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help) --Redrose64 (talk) 17:59, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oxon CC had merged all the sec. mods with the Grammar schools by the time that I started at a comprehensive. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Nicholas Church, Blakeney

Thanks, all suggestion of blame retracted! You obviously got it spot-on. Two TFAs in less than two weeks, the wikigods are smiling. Any plans to send a church to FAC yourself? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:29, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tunbridge Wells

Hi Mj. More for your interest than anything, since it is local to you: I have started List of places of worship in Tunbridge Wells (borough), my first foray outside Sussex. It will take shape over the coming days and weeks. Feel free to make any improvements or correct any of my non-local faux pas! Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks – that would be great. Hopefully by later tonight I will have finished downloading all those from Geograph that I have already identified, so any gaps left over will be genuine missing ones. I will do the Pemburys (or Pemburies?!...) at some point, but everything else would be a struggle on a day trip. (I was hoping to spend a few days in the area this summer, but that's looking unlikely now!). Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:17, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

St Leonard's Tower, West Malling

Interesting! I hadn't come across that in my research. John Newman in the Pevsner book says this, inter alia: "In 1198 St Leonard's cemetery is mentioned, and there are later references to a chapel. Yet this is no church tower, but a free-standing keep tower". However, other references (as noted in the article) claim that it could be part of a former church. To reflect the lack of agreement among sources, I'll slip an extra paragraph in the article somewhere - either at the bottom or after the "Overview" para. PS I had a pleasant time in the area 3 weeks ago, taking all the pics; a lot of walking though (too much really!). I stayed in Sevenoaks, and photographed the district extensively, so that will be the next district list I do (I need to "do" Edenbridge and Swanley's pics before I start, really). Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:44, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Railways

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Mid Suffolk Light Railway template

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Regarding your latest expansion of this template, do we really need every level crossing here? Their presence dominates the diagram and it's hard to see where the stations are. Britmax (talk) 17:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you alter the template so it features Template:Location map Barking and Dagenham in the infoboxes? Cheers. I intend to gradually create all of the London borough templates.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:40, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) All you need do is ensure that the infobox in the article has |map_type=Barking and Dagenham --Redrose64 (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Flores rail crash

Have now created a stub article at 2011 Flores rail crash. Do you want to give it a look over and see if I've got it right (and perhaps add the appropriate Stub template?). Never done one of these before! Have reverted the deletion at Template:2011 railway accidents, as the article is now live. Thanks for the head-up! Skinsmoke (talk) 20:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) That would be {{SouthAm-rail-transport-stub}} then. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine for a start. Hopefully other sources are available to expand the article with. Mjroots (talk) 20:44, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ta for the stub head-up: now added. Will check out the BBC article later. Skinsmoke (talk) 21:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

The Cape gauge move the page thing gets muddier by each post - it is clear the lead para/intro to the article as it stands is insufficiently detailed to offer the insights offered on the talk page since I put the move suggestion up, oh dear SatuSuro 08:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rail Injuries

Could you tell me if I have made a mess of the number of injuries referenced in Sloterdijk? Simply south...... going on editing sprees for just 6 years (as of 28/03/2006) 18:36, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OVV investigation - can you help translate?

The OVV have announced their lines of enquiries. I was wondering if you could translate Dutch, literally. I am trying to add to the Sloterdijk article using Google's machine translation. Whilst most of it is easy to interpret, I seem to be having trouble with this paragraph, particularly the fourth sentence. The rest of it is relatively okay.

"The measures to avoid collisions, start with the planning of the timetable, according to the AAM. A red signal, where the sprinter would be driven through it, is only one of the last 'expedients'. Then there are the signalman and the driver who can intervene. The OVV asks why the train by the driver or the security system is still put. Another question is whether the signal is well visible for the operator."

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.dagboekspoorwegen.nl/blog/&ei=fErHT6XRLsPMhAeH_eClCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CG4Q7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwesterpark%2Brail%2Bcrash%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26tbs%3Dqdr:w%26prmd%3Dimvns.

Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 11:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) The original reads De maatregelen om botsingen te voorkomen, beginnen al bij de planning van de dienstregeling, aldus de OVV. Een rood sein, waar de betrokken sprinter doorheen zou zijn gereden, is pas een van de laatste ‘redmiddelen’. Daarna zijn er nog de treindienstleider en de machinist die kunnen ingrijpen. De OVV stelt de vraag waarom de trein niet door de machinist of het beveiligingssysteem is stilgezet. Een andere vraag is of het sein wel goed zichtbaar was voor de machinist.
I would say that the word "stilgezet", translated by Google to "still put", actually means "made quiet", or "silenced". The English equivalent for this sentence could be along the lines of "The RAIB asked why the train driver cancelled the AWS [TPWS, ATP, etc.]". --Redrose64 (talk) 11:45, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Here is what I've put in the article. Would you say it is correct or close? Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 12:19, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) The verb in question is "zetten" (to put or to place). The ge- prefix indicates a past participle, and "stil" is from the verb "stillen" (to quieten or to silence). Google translate does give a range of options. Type in Stilgezet and it translates as Still put, but if you hover the pointer over still and left click, it comes up with other options of quietly, quiet, silence and stop. Thus in this case, stilgezet would translate as cancel(led). Will take a good look later. Mjroots (talk) 12:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection.

About your offer to semi-protect the Merseyrail and Tyne and Wear Metro articles. Yes I think that would be a good idea, the IP editor is getting very disruptive, and replacing referenced material that he doesn't agree with. The IP in question seems to believe that this American website, which doesn't even make any mention of the T&WM is an adequate reference for his changes. I left a note on the UK railways talk page but I thought I'd leave one here as well. G-13114 (talk) 15:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Done see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#The difference between commuter rail and metro\rapid transit. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Drat and moments before I just added it to RPP. Simply south...... catching SNOWballs for just 6 years 18:07, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arbroath and Montrose Railway

I really appreciate your involvement in this article. Your miles and chains are so much more appropriate than my decimal miles and, more importantly, thank you for the much improved map. I was rather proud of myself to have managed a single line with dots and branches! Our paths crossed years ago, that time at sea, on TS Leda where you again helped with a DYK. Many thanks again. Thincat (talk) 17:36, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, nice to see some good come out of an AFD. Mjroots (talk) 18:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SE&CR Diagram 960 PMV

I moved SE&CR Diagram 960 PMV from the article incubator into the main space. Regards, Illia Connell (talk) 06:30, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rivers

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Mike I feel quite pleased with myself! I had found the relatively new Geobox|rivers at River Trent and investigated. You will now see the result at this article (I took an easy one first!). There may well be other information - I couldn't work out the coordinates, and in any case a river covers more than one; couldn't find the exact length; and dunno if there is anywhere to be able to get flow rates etc. You may well be able to add more tributaries - I took the ones you had alraedy mentioned under the mills. None of the blanks come out until you give some information. I had also discovered the exact location of the source - a historical document on the Medway; I'm sure you also know more about its course, although perhaps that isn't too important. Peter Peter Shearan (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mill symbols

As you see I have put two new symbols into your sandbox article. Just a quick fix. Using mills in this way is quite an extension. Come September we need to define what symbols we need- mills with weirs for example, millponds goits. I have been visiting the Dark Peak and realise how much more important water engineering was in the 1780s and the growth of the Cotton Industry. Still I am taking a break now. ClemRutter (talk) 08:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have been talking with guys at WP:RIVERS and trying to work out what icon system to recommend. In a nutshell, the cyan worms are out, rivers are dark blue unless you need to differentiate- then non-navigable are light blue and navigable are darkblue. but I am still working on it. You have source at the top. River Len, Kent seems to be correct. See also Manchester Ship Canal for an upside down example. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers#Route diagrams gives the discussion.--ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cadeau

fr:Fichier:LeteaMill.jpg is heel mooi! --ClemRutter (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medway diagram

This takes a little thought. I like diagrams- very useful for showing mill locations- but there is a convention on canals that navigable should be darkblue and non navigable light blue. The tails as steams meet the river seem clunky. I have been concerned about the representation of reservoirs for some time- is a reservoir navigable or not- how do you show the dam bypass channel. In the simple case: a truncated salami would do- but they often are constructed at the confluence of several rivers. A lot of icons need some thought- and that will take a little time- I will put it on the list. (Some mills are on the wrong bank but that is minor). --ClemRutter (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have put in far too many hours playing with the diagram on my talk page. Please look over- and see if there is anything to add- you will need to proof read the position of the mills relative to the new locks, and the addition of the Beult and the two mouths of the Teise. I have added some new icons to Template:Waterways legend particularly putting curved dams on reservoirs. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:27, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To be positive: it is getting there. A few of your changes I don"t like. A river is a hydrographical item, as well as cultural one. The first uncollapsed diagram needs to stand in its own right, and give the reader basic infomation about its course. The collapsed bits need to show the twidddly bits, that the Teise at Yalding has bifurcated, and where mills were situated. When the course is a navigation we need info on the locks. Background colour needs to show whether the river is tidal, a navigation, or non-navigable. The section names are taken from the NRA, and are used by the waterways community- I don't think Lower Mid Upper is really informative. The whole diagram (uncollapsed) needs to be complete and informative in itself. I think that we should do another round of rollbacks and improvement then wrap it in a template and ask the WP:RIVERS for comment on any points where policy decisions need to be made. I would like to use it as a model to be attached to their policy page. I then want to code up the River Etherow, Irk, Irwell, Medlock, Goyt can't you just smell the cotton. --ClemRutter (talk) 13:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, width is critical when using collapsable box- expand all the section to see it isn't broken by the change. Titles a lot better- I took one look and thought- I knew I was about to to do that-- but I can't remember having done it. These wretched dock icons look awful- I am going to redo them- I cant see why a narrow dock should be five times wider than the river. I am more concerned about the length if the diagram, then allowing the diagram to be included in Kent pages that make a mention to the Medway. Then into Infoboxes.I am uploading images along the commons:Portland Basin- Ashton Canal at the moment.--ClemRutter (talk) 11:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know this one? Template:Medway Navigation--ClemRutter (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well it is certainly ready to be wrapped in a template- so I have. We can do further editing there {{River Medway map}}. I did do one change as the Tidal estuary is downstream from Rochester.

True. There is a limit to the sort of ship you can drive under Rochester Bridge. I think the commissioner of HM Dockyard would agree with me. The London Stone is at Upnor, which is/was the upstream limit of the Port of London- but Rochester is miles from the Swale or Thames. This wrretched river never does things simply!--ClemRutter (talk) 08:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rivers

I have been putting a bit of input into Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers‎; that may interest you. Later tonight I will be posting some of the changes. --ClemRutter (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I notice you have updated the River Waveney map, but was a little surprised to see that it now runs from south to north. One of the problems of the transposition is that several of the adjoining rivers are now shown on the wrong side. Oulton Broad should be on the other side, as should the River Yare, and the Haddiscoe cut is no longer clearly labelled. I was going to try to sort it out but am a bit short of time at the moment. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:52, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am back from holiday now, and have moved Oulton Broad, Haddiscoe Cut and the River Bure back to where they should be, corrected the direction of the locks, and produced a windmill symbol for the windmills. However, I have no sources for which side of the river the windmills should be on, and as the river and Haddiscoe Cut have now been transposed, wondered if you could just check them. Thanks. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ships

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List of shipwrecks in 1802

I note that you have added Retreive to the List_of_shipwrecks_in_1802#December
I don't have access to your cited source:-
"Shipwrecks". Bury and Norwich Post, or Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex and Cambrigde Advertiser (Issue 1072). 12 January 1803.
Could you please check it really is Retreive and not a misspelling of Retrieve? - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 08:50, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Plimsoll down again?

Hi Mjroots. I'm doing the last touches on a ship article I've been working on for a little while. In connection with that I've noticed that I'm unable to access Plimsoll Ship Data. Do you know if it's been down for some time, should we be worried? Manxruler (talk) 12:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I guess we'll have to do without for a while then. Thanks. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 19:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Two things: 1. Plimsoll's back up. 2. What does "tons under deck" mean? Any idea? Manxruler (talk) 22:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thought you might like to add to this. Hope your illness isn't too serious!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:25, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Found some more on Alster/Empire Endurance

Hi Mjroots. I just found some more on SS Empire Endurance. Manxruler (talk) 22:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Uhm, how come? Manxruler (talk) 22:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Aha. I see. That makes perfect sense. Thanks. Manxruler (talk) 08:39, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mjroots. I've started an article today about The Astrid. You added it to List of shipwrecks in 2013 yesterday, saying that it was Dutch and that after running aground it broke up and sank. Would you mind adding references to either or both articles for those bits of info, please, as I've yet to track the refs for that info down? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:54, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ships year categories

Is the convention here that the correct category year is the year of launch? I had supposed that year of completion was more appropriate, rather than the time of a half-built ship. What should one do about ships whose launch dates are not known? Davidships (talk) 22:39, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I wasn't asking about dabs in particular, but those "ships of 1982" type categories. I'll get used to it, I suppose - but in all modern databases and registers that I know (LR, Equasis, Sea-web, national ship registers, other class registers, Miramar and the like) the year of build for the ship is the year of completion. Davidships (talk) 01:24, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Barracouta

Have you had any more luck tracking this one down? NtheP (talk) 13:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: 2010 F1 season/Hamilton

Don't fret man, I'm sure we've all made errors like that at some point during our Wiki lives. We learn and learn every day. :) Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 15:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but I was just trying to trim some of the page size by removing the refnames of references that did not have another reference point in the article, as in the only mentioning of the reference. Bad idea in hindsight, but just trying to trim every little unnecessary byte off the page. Regards. Cs-wolves(talk) 17:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Already responded there! Cs-wolves(talk) 18:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also believe the ref name tags give unnecessary weight to the article.  Kitchen Roll  (Exchange words) 18:18, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis Hamilton

It'll probably help that the 115.134.x.x range is out of the way; though I'm sure that's not the only IP range in Malaysia! Black Kite (t) (c) 09:25, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Flags for F1 race

You undid my edit on the 2010 European Grand Prix because I changed the flag to European one from Spanish one. I think it is better to put the European one, because it is officially named the European Grand Prix. Of course, there is a Spanish Grand Prix, but all other races have their respective flags, bar this one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, seen it. Also, thank you for putting my edit as a good faith edit, and not vandalism - because I just edited it thinking that the European flag was the correct one. M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are quite correct about everyone learning about Wiki (but I guess everyone will be learning about it until they reitre, and the site does need admins :P). And, I am also trying to fight vandalism, so it would have been quite ironic if I were accused of it! M-R-Schumacher (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Water Sports

Hi Mjroots

I thought you might be interested in joining this new project Wikipedia:WikiProject Water sports/RNLI task force, as you have contributed to articles concerning Lifeboats and shipping  stavros1  ♣ 

2011 Australian Grand Prix

Please do not include blank pre-set sections. A wikipedia article should be ready to be read with whatever information is current at any point in its life. If you are going to 'set up' articles for future expansion, use hides to remove the blank headings from view of those who step into the article for a look prior to its expansion. Just a touch of professional presentation. --Falcadore (talk) 07:59, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2013 Formula One season

Hi, Mj,

I've come to you before with a couple of requests, and I'm hoping you can help me out with another one. A few recent developments have lead regular contributors over at WP:F1 to belive that it is time to create a page for the 2013 Formula One season. However, the page has been pre-emptively created half a dozen times in the past, and admins have prevented the page from being created until it is unlocked; we are 18 months away from the start of the 2013 season, and by comparison, the 2012 page was created almost three years in advance. I am hoping you will be able to open up the ability to create the 2013 page, or at least direct me to someone who can if you do not have that happy power, please. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I've changed the salting on the page from create=sysop to create=autoconfirmed, that should let you get to work on it, I think. :) - The Bushranger One ping only 07:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, Bushranger. Not too soon to create the article now, considering there are drivers with contracts to race in 2013. Mjroots (talk) 07:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Folkestone Racecourse

Thanks for the message. I'd say its "closing" rather than "closed". The racecourse's own website shows that they still have fixtures left in 2012 and the news story on the Racing Post says it will close at the end of 2012, so I'd say for the moment it should still be marked as an active racecourse until it finally shuts it doors. What do you think?--Bcp67 (talk) 19:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello

You sent me a message last week and i just saw it right now. About the edit wars against me, Actully i wrote my claim in the article's talk page and he didn't listen to me. He's continue's to vandalize articles in Wikipedia and he opened another user. He even didn't blocked! i really don't know why.--Friends147 (talk) 18:56, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bucharester

He seems like an energetic new user, perhaps a bit too concerned with presenting his hometown in an overly positive light, but nothing more alarming so far. - Biruitorul Talk 20:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eff Won

Hi Mj,

I noticed you left a message for Eff Won on his talk page. I know you're assuming good faith, but just in case you're unaware, we believe that Eff Won is actually a sock of Lucy-marie, and is currently the subject of a sockpuppet investigation. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 23:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I think it's under control now. As we're all pretty sure it's Lucy, we've had enough experience with her to know how to handle her. Right now, we've managed to contain Eff Won to the article talk pages while we await the outcome of the SPI. If proven right, some of us have talked about adding something to WP:LONG for future reference. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 06:35, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again Mj,
How long do SPIs generally take? Eff Won has been the subject of one for nearly a week now, and there hasn't been any real progress on it. One way or the other, I'd like the matter closed, because he's starting to get aggressive again (see here and especially here). Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Right, thanks for that. I'm hesitant to do it because I don't know how long it would take for an admin to get around to reviewing it, and the page clearly states that you must notify a user if they have been referred to AN or ANI. I'm not keen on that for the time being because I don't know how Eff Won would react if he were to find out before action was taken (assuming action is taken - but we're all fairly certain it's Lucy). I imagine that he would take it poorly, though. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Eff Won appears to be on the other side of the world to me. Would it be perceived as low if I were to report him to AN/ANI and left the mandatory note on his page while he was asleep so that admins could intervene before he was aware of it? Prisonermonkeys (talk) 09:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I've reported him to ANI. He's denied it, of course, insisting that everything I have said has been taken out of context, deliberately misrepresented and shamelessly exaggerated, but he hasn't actually addressed any of the issues I raised, and he seems to think this will all go away if he asks nicely and promises to try better. I find it rather strange that he hasn't addressed - or even acknowledged - his deplorable behaviour like this. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 07:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arrogance.

I have no difficulty in being civil to anyone but I will simply not lie down and take rudeness. Therefore, I request that you remind Parsecboy of the same. In future it would be best if he did not approach people with such an outright display of arrogance on first contact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.G.Watson (talkcontribs) 18:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for your support at my RfA. I will do my best to live up to people's confidence in me. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar issue

Hi mj,

When you get a chance, can you please take a look at 2012 Formula One season, please? A user, cherkash, has taken issue with some of the grammar in the article, citing MOS:POSS as to why. I told him it was fine, citing other parts of the same policy, but he keeps restoring his edits. He has moved it to the article talk page and has attempted to establish a consensus, but the preliminary consensus is going against him. Other users see no reason to change what is in the article. I also advised him that the Formula One WikiProject has a certain way of doing things, namely that we generally prefer that a consensus is reached on contentious edits before actually implementing them. cherkash keeps restoring his edits despite this and despite preliminary consensus against him. I warned him that he was in violation of WP:3RR, and now his latest edit rewords sections of the article (quite poorly in places, I might add - for someone who is taking issue with grammar, he has no idea how to construct a proper sentence) so as to get around the preliminary consenuss telling him that there was no agreement on his proposed changes. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 07:46, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the prompt response. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 08:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mj, I'm surprised you took a very partial view of the issue, by threating me with a ban on my talk page, while taking no such action against Prisonermonkeys. If you carefully look at the history and timing of edits on both main article and talk pages, you will see that not only Prisonermonkeys was in violation of the 3RR himself, but he also acted against the spirit of Wikipedia by summarily undoing the edits, only a portion of which was in his opinion controversial, and the rest of which was uncontroversial improvement. This is very much against the Wiki spirit of collaboration, when editors are discouraged to summarily undo other editors' edits unless in cases of vandalism, and are instead encouraged to re-work the edits further towards amicable resolution. In this case, I repeatedly warned him that he dismissed/undid more than edits that contained possessives in question – but he proceeded to revert nonetheless. At the last count, I can see 4 reverts on his part (against my two) – but you nevertheless decided to take your issue up with me not him. It's strange, especially since I tried to constructively resolve the issues in my latest edit, whereas he just repeatedly acted disrespectfully towards me and my attempts at resolving the controversial issue. Since when is the "my way or highway" attitude, as demostrated by Prisonermonkeys, encouraged and endorsed on the Wikipedia? cherkash (talk) 23:52, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My third reversion of the page came after I told you that you needed a consensus to have your changes approved. At the time, you did not. The preliminary consensus was against your proposals. Nevertheless, you restored the content that you added to the page. I explained to you the reasons for this: the Formula 1 editors prefer to keep the page stable by discussing proposed changes first, and only including them once a consensus had been obtained. Yes, we are conservative, but we do that because the pages get a lot of unsolicited edits, particularly during this time of year when the rumour mill is in full swing. If I reverted your page for the third time, it was because you ignored these instructions. You did not have a consensus, but you saw fit to make changes anyway. You tried to give me some nonsense about how your changes were grammar-related and had nothing to do with changing the actual content of the page, but that is splitting hairs. You did not have consensus to make those changes.
Furthermore, I told you that if you wanted to make any changes to the page outside the grammar, you were welcome to. In particular, I noticed you wanted to change the {{main|(Grand Prix name)}} to {{main article|(Grand Prix name)}}. I have no issue with that, and if you had have changed that and that alone, then I would not have reverted it. Instead, you insisted that I had to be the one to go through and change all the grammar back to its original form if I had an issue with it. If you had have made an edit that changes those templates without touching the grammar, you would have earned yourself considerably more goodwill than you currently have.
Finally, your "attempts at resolving the controversial issue" with your final edit did not amount to much. I changed these for three reasons: 1) they weren't necessary, 2) preliminary consensus decided that the article was fine the way it was, and 3) they actual changes that you made here left the article with some very awkward sentences, such as "Lotus became known as Caterham, reflecting purchase of Caterham Cars by team principal Tony Fernandes". It surprises me that you made so little effort here, given that the majority of your edits have been concerned with grammar. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
PS - Mj, I hope you don't mind my posting like this on your talk page. I saw cherkash's response and thought I might offer a rebuttal in the interests of making your job a little easier by saving you from sifting through pages and pages to find a response. Prisonermonkeys (talk) 02:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Prisonermonkeys, you are clearly bent on splitting hairs, despite claims to the opposite. Mind-boggling: you wouldn't mind me changing the factual contents without building consensus first, but you were clearly very eager to aggressively go after me for trying to change grammar and re-work it to something that would be acceptable to all parties involved. That contradicts the claims to factual stability you pretend to maintain (around the time "rumour mill is in full swing") – since you are clearly more interested in formatting stability than in factual one.
In a good spirit of collaboration it would be better you further change "awkward" grammar (which wasn't that awkward, retaining the original meaning exactly) rather than keep reverting everything. So you have to admit there was a very clear intent on your side to involve in an edit war – and that's exactly what you continued doing despite my efforts to avoid it.
Also note, that by undoing all the edits I did, including those you said you agreed to – and the ones you said would earn me more goodwill – you still managed to mangle and destroy the repeated efforts to fix citation tags. This is a good example of why making incremental edits, instead of reverts/undo's, is always a preferred way to edit Wikipedia. cherkash (talk) 03:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Article about Restaurant Week

Just wanted your feedback on a new article that I have created. Does it meet Wiki standards? Would appreciate your comments and feedback (and help!). Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Bangalore_restaurant_week Varunr (talk) 11:41, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. While the said references are on Facebook and Youtube, those are coverage done by actual and reputable Television News channels. Does that not count? Yes there are Newspaper mentions too, Note 5 and 6 are Newspaper clips and also, check the section titled Press mentions. Does that help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varunr (talkcontribs) 06:29, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Times

Just in case you hadnt looked for a bit it is now 1785-2006 an extra 21 years! MilborneOne (talk) 21:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling

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United States Military Date Proposal

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Proposal to implement TAFI that affects ITN

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Hi again - hope your computer problems are over! Could I convince you to have a look over Astrid (brig) to see if there's anything you can dig up about her that I haven't managed to find? Now that the ship's been salvaged, and its fate seems to have been set, I'd like to put the article up for GA status sometime soon. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk of the devil and. he will hear about it

Nice to hear from you mjroots. I have not been on WP much these last couple of years. I imagine you know Peter Horn anyway, he does a lot of railway stuff, but as you see I was just putting in a good word for you.

Some of the convert stuff was going to move to Wikimedia into the parsing engine, but I have no idea what became of that. The little I do on Wikipedia is mostly gnoming, nowadays.

I was thinking of you just today as it happens, before even looking at your user page etc, about the post mill at West Wratting owned by David and Gabrielle. I was just passing through the hills here around Mende, Hungary and they are similar to the hills around there and thought, I told mjroots David owned that post mill but couldn't remember his wife's name. It's been in her family four generations and on the centenery of ownership we looked around it. Most of the machinery is repairable but the mill is not in working order, the building is OK. I imagine if it were working, the top of the sail would be the highest point in Cambridgeshire. (OS is 120m above sea level; Gog Magogs are at 130m I think). Si Trew (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would almost certainly be the highest windmill in Cambridgeshire even without the sail, but that't not very notable, especially if it doesn't work. (Of course, most windmills in Cambs. were for drainage.) But I can certainly get more info from David and Gabbie if you want to add it to your list. Si Trew (talk) 22:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You were wondering

You were wondering at one time as to how to convert km into both miles and chains. Well here it is: {{convert/dual|10|km|mi|chain}} Template:Convert/dual, or even {{convert/dual|10|km|mi|chain|1|abbr=on}} Template:Convert/dual. Peter Horn User talk 00:27, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please see

Roots,
Please see my comments about dual conversions (mi, km and chain) at User talk:Peter Horn#Thanks. Peter Horn User talk 15:22, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes it can do the reverse, see my latest post at User talk:Peter Horn#Thanks. Peter Horn User talk 21:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move of Grecian (1812)

Hi Mjroots. When you moved Grecian (1812) you should have moved her to HMS Grecian (1814), not HMS Grecian (1812). Grecian entered the Royal Navy in 1814, not 1812. By miss-naming her, you risk causing confusion. In this case, as there wasn't an earlier Grecian, the confusion is slight. However, in many cases the predecessor vessel may still have been active in the period between the launching of the successor and the year of the Royal Navy's acquisition. I would appreciate your reversing the move. If you feel that you must move her, please move her to HMS Grecian (1814). Thanks, and regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 21:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ta. Acad Ronin (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bracketbot

I removed the bracketbot setting from your talk page. Every time you edit a shipwrick article, I have to come by and fix up your mess. Today's mess included 7 broken wikilink brackets and who knows what else. Normally I wouldn't care if somebody turned off bracketbot, but when someone makes more work for others, it is a different story.

I decided to opt out of Bracketbot, as is my right. I suggested a way the bot could be improved but was ignored. IMHO, the bot would be better employed fixing the problem itself, rather than notifying editors and leaving it for them to fix.
As it says at the top of my talk page, I am unwell, and these errors are partly due to my medical problems, which I am not prepared to discuss. If you are that fed up with fixing my errors, then I suggest that you leave the lists alone. I do make checks as each list gets completed from the sources I'm using, and fix other errors as and when I spot them. Mjroots (talk) 06:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fine. Instead of spending my time trying to clean up your mess, I will just revert you. If you can't spend the time to click "preview" and actually look for errors, you shouldn't be editing. If you are going to use a medical condition as an excuse for your horrendous work, then don't work at all. A couple weeks ago, I cleaned up 40 broken wikilink brackets in one article. No bot can fix most broken brackets, which is why the bot tells the person who screwed up to fix their problem. Bgwhite (talk) 06:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Researching these lists of shipwrecks takes many hours. You obviously think that broken brackets are a bigger problem than I do. In answer to your suggestion, I'm not going to stop editing. I like working on Wikipedia, and the intention always is to improve the encyclopedia, not to make it worse. OK, it might take me a while to bash an article in shape, but I get there in the end. When I do the 1824 list, how about you leave me to get on with it, and we'll see what kind of shape it is in when I finish? Mjroots (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How about you turn bracketbot on before you last edit of the day, so it can find your mistakes. This saves you time as you time as you don't have to hunt for the problems. I won't have to bother you again. Sorry, this is not the only time I've mentioned this to you and your rate of mistakes only increased. Bgwhite (talk) 07:54, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add ref name=AJ030105 see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_shipwrecks_in_1804&diff=prev&oldid=551588070

thanks --Frze > talk 15:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed - should havr been CM030105 per the diff. Mjroots (talk) 16:21, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Mjroots. Yes, you're right. That is an interesting ship. I should give that article a tweak or two. Good edits on your part, btw. I did a few edits on that ship myself 3+ years ago, it should be nice to have another look. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 23:40, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggest you take a look at St Jude storm.Martin451 22:52, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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If/when they get enough information, we'll consider splitting them then. But for now, it's rather silly to have such stubby sections. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please add ref

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 Fixed - it was a typo for BM131126. Mjroots (talk) 08:05, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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(talk page stalker) Looks like I fixed it here. Chris857 (talk) 02:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Chris. That was typical of the silly little mistakes that sometimes makes a mess of things. Well spotted. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 03:43, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The template name and raw name must be exactly the same. C&P is you friend here. Nice to see another stalker come out of the woodwork! Welcome to the club, Chris. Mjroots (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. I think I did copy-paste, but evidently my finger seems to have slipped slightly during the paste bit. Probably didn't help being seriously tired either. Ah, well, all's well now. Thanks all. Manxruler (talk) 12:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, given your interest in France and transport and the fact that it's been sitting weeks, I wondered if you'd care to review this one for GA? If you;re not feeling very well I understand though, sorry to hear about that. Your talk page could do with archiving though its 159 kb! Hope you had a good Christmas!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hadlow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadlow_%28ship%29#cite_ref-CM220324_24-0 forgive me if i seem a bit rusty on all this but the mystery of over 20 refs that are unreachable in current format - is there something i am missing - how are the refs verifiable ? lost with all hands - how verified (or not?) - anyways happy new year and all... satusuro 09:56, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

excellent - highly likely that libraries that i belong to can give me the access i need - thanks for your reply - cheers satusuro 11:44, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SS Maasdam (1921)

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Maybe I'm the only one seeing red? Any insight would be much appreciated! You don't have to TB to my page, I'll watch this page for the short term.--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's showing in blue for me and the link works. You've made a start on the article but the flags need to go per WP:MOSFLAG. Add {{Infobox ship begin}} and fill in details as appropriate. Further info on the ship may be found at Plimsoll Ship Data and Convoyweb (enter Maasdam in search box). Mjroots (talk) 07:19, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, great! It's showing up blue for me now, too. Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:27, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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