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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 04:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of communities served by Comcast

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This list of every town in American that has Comcast cable does not belong on wikipedia per WP:NOTDIR, Furthermore, the list is incorrect and outdated and even if updated accurate information could be found, this still serves no encyclopedic purpose. Rusf10 (talk) 04:14, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Many many many companies on Wikipedia list their service area(s). Perhaps not to the level of the city/town licenses which is what actually grants Comcast its service area. i.e. One canneot get XFINITY outside of city/town licensed to allow offer it. But should a company's service area be listed on Wikipedia is the better question? Many banks list the states they're in as they're licensed on the state level. Verizon lists their FiOS area markets. Charter Communications lists its markets. The satellite providers which are all in the same sky list their service areas. Radio/TV stations list the area/markets they're licensed to serve. Mobile companies list the states they are licensed to operate in. There's LOTS of DIR on Wikipedia. For example: List of countries with Burger King franchises. To that logic wouldn't people just goto BK.com and look up what Burger Kings are nearby? CaribDigita (talk) 07:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per WP:NOTDIR and WP:NOTDB. No analysis or summary is offered; the article is just a long bulleted list. Anyone searching for this information would just get it from Comcast, who would have a more up-to-date list anyway. Consensus has been that standalone lists of airline destinations are not encyclopedic enough for WP, and I think this article is very similar in concept to that. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NOTDIR and minimal coverage of the topic (this is about as good as secondary coverage gets). RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:47, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTDB. Unencyclopedic content. AusLondonder (talk) 10:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ultraman Tregear

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Most of it were just primary sources. Fails WP:GNG. AfD'ing it to end the edit war. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reject: you have no reason to delete this article!! Harimua Thailand (talk) 02:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:1566:1FAC:A05C:22B9 (talk) 17:10, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Harimua Thailand: We need coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (in this case, Ultraman) to have an article. This article has none of that, and should therefore be deleted. Characters as popular as King Dedede have been redirected for this reason. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Except King Dedede is a different topic entirely and have some decent sources unlike this one (Full of primary sources).The Worst part is, there are other 3 Ultraman articles that are all sourced as primary. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know that, I was using him as an example of how notability is not popularity or being a well-liked character. The fact that he is in a better position than this character helps my point. QuicoleJR (talk) 01:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is literally no reception in reliable sources either in this article or on the web, so it does not meet GNG. If there is a good redirect target available, redirect it there. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reject: Redirect is not allowed and the article must be keep!! Harimua Thailand (talk) 04:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:6938:8399:70DC:2892 (talk) 14:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You made the article, you have serious bias 48JCLTalk 00:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Harimua Thailand: You can only make 1 bolded vote per AFD. If you want to make another one, you must strike the old one. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    By the way, I am fine with a redirect. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Are people allowed to vote twice? Cooper (talk) 01:52, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, they are not. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I was about to say redirect but if you search by the Japanese name, ウルトラマントレギア, a lot more sourcing comes up. Cooper (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:56, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Entry on Japanese Wikipedia. Cooper (talk) 01:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Its a primary source. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Two quick searches brought me these two. Cooper (talk) 02:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Unreliable. See WP:RS, if there's a reliable source then it helps GNG. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How do you know it's unreliable? Just because you aren't familiar with a website doesn't make it unreliable. I'm not familiar with those website either, but both of those websites are used dozens to hundreds of times on Wikipedia. And they look fine to me. Cooper (talk) 02:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If they are not unreliable, but a situational source. Then it couldn't even help WP:GNG. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:GNG says that reliable "sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language." Let's not discriminate Japanese media. Cooper (talk) 02:11, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not even proven as a reliable source. But, lets drop this and move on since we have different perspective. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That sounds like you're just trying to deny that any source is valid, for whatever reason occurs to you at the moment. I don't think there is such a thing as a "situational source". Toughpigs (talk) 02:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Because its just a reveal source. For the character it says only about this "Among the many Ultraman, Ultraman Taro is the one for whom I feel a powerful, powerful affinity" thats it. But, I don't see any point of making this discussion much longer. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Uh, what is a "reveal source"? Cooper (talk) 02:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oops. I meant that the source is a Character reveal only. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 02:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Situational sources have been a thing on the site for a long time. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm guessing this? Thing is, "situational" seems to mean there can be red flags in some sources that would normally be reliable, like if they were writing about something out of the usual scope. I don't think that applies here. Coop (talk) 07:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Situational is generally accepted to mean "use with caution" and typically means that it is unacceptable in some areas and fine in others. Some situational sources have been marked as fine for proving facts but unacceptable for proving notability. This does not apply to all situational sources, but keep in mind that you need to be careful with that kind of source. No comment on the individual links at this time since I don't speak Japanese. QuicoleJR (talk) 11:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How do we tell if a source is situational though? It felt like Greenish Pickle! was just casting their own opinion. Coop (talk) 22:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Then read Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 23:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not wish to cast votes, but if the consensus brings to delete, I would like to suggest an alternative by redirecting Ultraman Tregear to List of Ultraman Taiga characters. I can compress and salvage whatever remains from this page to their appropriate articles. Zero stylinx (talk) 01:25, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to List of Ultraman Taiga characters as a fair alternative to deletion. Jontesta (talk) 22:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The general notability guideline can be met with non-English sources and with sources available in print rather than in digital. Coverage of the character appears in volumes 164, 171, and 172 of Uchusen, a long-running Japanese periodical about media and tokusatsu. There is also coverage in volumes 256, 265, and 273 of Figya Kingu (Figure King), a Japanese periodical about figurines and toys. Add to this the Tokusatsu Network coverage in English that Cooper found further up in the discussion.
    If there is a dispute about sourcing or content in the article, that's something to resolve through means other than AfD. Consider reporting editors to WP:AN/EW rather than AfD'ing it to end the edit war. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete or Redirect to List of Ultraman Taiga characters: Fails GNG. Sources show the subject exists, they do not have WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth from neutral non-promotional reliable sources addressing the subject directly and indepth. BEFORE including a search for ウルトラマントレギア found primary sources, name mentions, nothing meeting SIGCOV, from independent reliable sources. Keep votes are depending on name mentions and primary sources neither of which show notability.  // Timothy :: talk  17:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to List of Mega Monster Battle characters. ✗plicit 00:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultraman Belial

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Most of it were just primary sources. Fails WP:GNG. AfD'ing it to end the edit war. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:45, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see, then if you don't mind, may I downsize the page? Even if the verdict is unchanged, at least I tried. Zero stylinx (talk) 03:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can definitely improve the article while it's here at AfD. The most important thing is to identify reliable independent sources that cover this topic. There are a lot of sources in the article right now — I don't read Japanese, so I don't know how to evaluate them. What do you think the best sources are? Toughpigs (talk) 04:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I looked over other 3 character articles that are related with this, but oh god all of the sources that were used were also primary sources. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 05:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete since subject, and this is critical, lacks independent notability. A decision to Merge the text to Mega Monster Battle: Ultra Galaxy, after a serious trimming, would be not unwelcome and perhaps preferable to a plain Redirect. -The Gnome (talk) 13:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with the List of Mega Monster Battle characters instead, I can relocate some of Belial's story to that column easily. Zero stylinx (talk) 14:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, not bad at all that. -The Gnome (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rhona Who Lives by the River

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of WP:NOTABILITY and even indication of whether this will ever exist. The only source is a 2021 story that they plan to make this series. North8000 (talk) 13:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: We know that. That won't happen in the future. There is no proof. Suleeabc2 (talk) 07:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 05:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ange Keffa

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR as it does not contain the WP:SIGCOV needed to meet it. I suggest redirecting to Ma Famille. BlakeIsHereStudios (talk | contributions) 03:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 07:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jet Fuel Formula

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The last entry in the now-depopulated Category:The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends episodes (other episodes and story arcs proved to be non-notable and got redirected after prods and AfDs). This one, being the first story arc, is... well, longer than many others but still does not show why it is notable. We have a gigantic plot summary with poor references and my BEFORE fails to find much of use. I suggest redirecting this one as well. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Appears to be OR. I can't find much of anything for sourcing, but this much info had to come from somewhere, so I'm lost for how it got so much detail. Regardless, no sourcing is no sourcing and a delete. Oaktree b (talk) 20:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael J. Szanto

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Ad, POV, undisclosed payment Martinc021 (talk) 00:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: He's published articles in various media and is used as an expert on news programs, but I don't see anything about him as a person. Sourcing used in the article is mostly primary or non-RS. I can't find any articles about him. Oaktree b (talk) 01:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete unless an editor adds references to reliable sources entirely independent of Szanto that devotes significant coverage to him. What he says on TV or in newspaper opinion pieces are of no value in establishing notability. Coverage of his grandfather is also of no value. Cullen328 (talk) 04:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The undisclosed payment claim is unfounded and seemingly libelous. The POV and tone of the article have been addressed. Aaron1a12 (talk) 16:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete since subject clearly fails WP:GNG. Grandfather's article, too, seems rather devoid of notability traces, so no issue of inherited fame invoked here. -The Gnome (talk) 14:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The sources are written by Michael J. Szanto. I don't think this counts as being independent, even if it is in a reliable source. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Cleo Cooper (talk) 01:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of programmes broadcast by Zee Café

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Does not meet WP:NLIST. These do not appear to be original programming and I cannot find sources that talk about the grouping as a whole, just individual references about the separate programming. Could redirect title to Zee Café as an WP:ATD. CNMall41 (talk) 19:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon DeShazer

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Unref BLP currently, so I looked for sources, but couldn't find evidence he is notable or a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 20:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of NHL Entry Draft broadcasters

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A WP:BEFORE search reveals WP:PRIMARY and WP:ROUTINE mentions as the sourcing, thus failing WP:LISTN. Conyo14 (talk) 20:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Aside from the cogent arguments cited above, with which I agree, this is absurdly trivial. Ravenswing 08:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the page's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 16

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There is only one article this name and the other is just a redirect link. Does not meet G14 as it links to (or should I say, disambiguates) two articles JuniperChill (talk) 12:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 06:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Welborn

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He doesn't seem to meet WP:ENT / WP:GNG. Working actors, but not the significance of roles needed. Also currently an unref BLP. Boleyn (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: With roles as "guy at cafe" and "angry cop" as examples, he's very much not notable. Character actors usually aren't notable unless you have extensive biographical articles about them that we can use for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 20:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Daniel (talk) 00:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WNYN-LD

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 17:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Love of Life. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ben "Beanie" Harper

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No refs for many years. It's a character in a long ago cancelled TV soap. None of the claims have sources so can be removed per WP:V and anything remaining could be added to Love of Life. A redirect seems total overkill. JMWt (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect : I agree with JMWt. No independent references can be found to verify the content of the article. Hkkingg (talk) 17:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Philip Schofield affair scandal

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This article was created with substantial portions directly copied without attribution from Philip Schofield. It's not clear that this needs its own page, as the relevant material is included in context on the Philip Schofield article. Given the recency of the article creation, it can be safely deleted without too much concern about external links or external search engines. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 08:29, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of French Open broadcasters

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Nothing appears to have changed since the last AfD a month ago. WP:NOTGUIDE applies. signed, Rosguill talk 18:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure on this - Is this up for deletion because the article is in bad shape, or that it shouldn't be here regardless? We have List of Wimbledon broadcasters and List of Australian Open broadcasters articles that appear to be sourced much better and are laid out in a satisfactory style. The flags for countries would certainly have to go as against MOS. If this was done in a Wimbledon like style would there be objections? Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:07, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that if there are secondary sources that back up the level of detail included at the Wimbledon article, that would be a good model to follow. The Australian Open article seems lighter on analysis and less obviously makes a case for meeting WP:LISTN, but is still as you note in better shape than the French Open article at issue. signed, Rosguill talk 12:36, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as per my previous nomination. This was soft deleted and should remain deleted. No merit for keeping this. Again, WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, all but one are unsourced - has anything improved since then? No. SpacedFarmer (talk) 17:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure)‎ Geschichte (talk) 14:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 In. Women

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Nothing in the article or my BEFORE suggests this meets WP:GNG (or WP:NFILM). Nothing in GBooks or GScholar (well, one mention in a German book?). Maybe there is some coverage in National Lampoon (magazine) ( September/October 1994), but it is a parody magazine, so not sure if it is reliable, and even if there is something there, GNG requires multiple sources (so at least one more). Can anyone find anything to rescue this - or failing that, suggest a valid redirect target? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Piotrus, I should think that even if the National Lampoon is a satirical magazine, it is significant coverage. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC) Forget what I said, it's obviously a primary source....-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:26, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CommentDelete There are just two significant articles on this movie (that I can find). One is a full paragraph in TV Guide from 8/20/1994. The other is the LA Times article, which is genuinely substantial. This movie gets continued brief mentions in video guides, but almost nothing else. Hard to see this coming even close to meeting WP:NFILM Oblivy (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oblivy Did you look at the sources found above? And are the sources you found oline and linkable for others to review? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus sorry I just did. The Entertainment Tonight article is lengthy, but I don't know if it counts towards the nationally known critics factor. The TV guide article is paywalled above but another TV guide article from the same date is here[2]. The video guides are available at archive.org. Oblivy (talk) 04:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Oblivy Playing the devil's advocate (since I am the nom), I think that we have enough sources to show this meets GNG with SIGCOV, although I did not access your sources (but coverage in LA Time, which you call substantial, is pretty good). I'll ping User:Cunard in case he can locate it and quote it/link it. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, LA times is source #3. Oblivy (talk) 05:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changed my vote to comment. There's little of substance except in that short period of 1994, but Cunard brought the sources. There's a common sense reading of GNG that could easily prevail here and I'd be fine with keeping the article. Oblivy (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Bell, Miles (1994-08-19). "'Attack of 5'2'' Women'". The Hollywood Reporter. Vol. 333, no. 30. pp. 12, 16. ProQuest 2362086371.

      The review notes: "Julie Brown casts a long, amusing shadow in Showtime's head-strongly dumb "National Lam- poon's Attack of the 5'2" Women," an umbrella title for two films. The kicky pair of satires within spoof two of the media's recent bete noir bad girls, skater-agitator Tonya Harding and impromptu surgeon Lorena Bobbitt, whose fictional counterparts are both played by Brown. Yes, nothing is sacred and all bets are off as "Attack" goes on the offensive, seizing the public personas of Harding and Bobbitt to transmit a picture of cheesy, pulp aspirations, where fame and lame are interchangeable and mass communications is the twisted funnel through which rattles the news. ... Ah, but an instant before this, the missus learns that her recently repaired hubby has been cheating again. Ouch! Sophomoric and crude, and way too long, "Attack" manages to play as a fun-dumb damning of the media-rama."

    2. Hiltbrand, David (1994-08-22). "National Lampoon's Attack of the 5 ft.2 Women". People. Vol. 42, no. 8. p. 12. EBSCOhost 9408227615.

      The review notes: "In this daffy double-header, Julie Brown spoofs two of last year's tabloid inamoratas. First, in an utterly unruly farce, she plays Tonya Hardly. The chain-smoking, asthma-atomizer-sucking, overweight skater is consumed with jealously for her competitor Nancy Cardigan (Khrystyne Haje). ... While this pair of infamous headline-generators present perfect targets for Brown's raucous, ribald satire, the fact is that both episodes seem a little dated already. Nothing goes stale faster than a juicy tabloid scandal. Grade: B+"

    3. Schwarzbaum, Lisa (1994-08-19). "Feminine High Jinks". Entertainment Weekly. No. 236. p. 46. EBSCOhost 9408227610.

      The review notes: "In NATIONAL LAMPOON'S ATTACK OF THE 5'2" WOMEN (Showtime, Sunday, 8-9:30 p.m.), the very funny, very brazen star of Medusa: Dare to Be Truthful, the wicked 1991 parody of Madonna's Truth or Dare parody, sinks her fangs into two notorious women of recent headlines, figure skater Tonya Harding and spouse mutilator Lorena Bobbitt, and doesn't let go. As she did in Medusa, Brown ... sticks closely to the original text; in this case, her text is the chronology of Harding's bumbling plot to sideline her hated rival, Nancy Kerrigan, and Bobbitt's bumbling plan to sideline her hated husband, John Wayne Bobbitt. ... That Attack of the 5'2" Women flags is due to its length--90 minutes is a hell of a long way to go for two jokes--as well as to the datedness of its situations. There are no two recent, overreported media stories richer for comedy by and about women than those of Harding and Bobbitt, and, consequently, we've already seen and heard a heap. This quarry is too easy. In the name of comedy sisterhood, Julie Brown should lace up her bustier and work at a tougher assignment--say, whipping sketch comedy into shape. She TV: C+ At-tack of the 5'2" Women: B-. "

    4. Willman, Chris (1994-08-20). "TV Reviews : '5 Ft. 2 Women' Doesn't Measure Up as Timely Satire". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.

      The review ntoes: "For, though everyone would recognize John Wayne Bobbitt (or Juan Wayne, as his wife calls him here) as the funnier figure from his subsequent deadpan attempts to cash in on his celebrity, Brown hogs the comedy in this half with her Venezuelan accent and a macha swagger that doesn’t quite square with anyone’s worst picture of the real Lorena. As a targetless spoof, it’s, well, satirically challenged."

    5. Taylor, Jonathan (1994-08-19). "He Never Give Me Orgasm: The Lenora Babbitt Story". Variety. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.

      The review notes: "Brown’s brilliant Madonna satire, “Medusa: Dare to Be Truthful,” and her campy novelty hit songs like “Homecoming Queen’s Got a Gun” point to her obvious skill. But “Attack of the 5’2″ Women” comes off no better than a latter-day National Lampoon, where the philosophy has descended to the point where anything is allowed, and it would be good if at least some of it were funny."

    6. Mendoza, Manuel (1994-08-21). "Tonya-Lorena sendup is a mean-spirited letdown". The Dallas Morning News. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.

      The review notes: "The humor in "Tonya: The Battle of Wounded Knee" and "He Never Give Me Orgasm: The Lenora Babbitt Story" is broad - Ms. Harding's behind, for instance, is the target of many a joke. And the panting media, perfect prey, escape virtually unscathed. Ms. Brown plays both women as conniving, clueless and exceedingly tacky. The adjectives "gross" and "cheap" also come to mind - for example, when, in trying to attract "Juan Wayne," Ms. Babbitt licks a jukebox. Meanwhile, "Tonya Hardly" cuts her pizza with her skates, while her ditzy competitor "Nancy Cardigan" endorses pork with the line, "It's really neat." Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 Women isn't."

    7. Richmond, Ray (1994-08-19). "Television - HBO 'Enemy' Remake Wages Uphill Battle". Daily News of Los Angeles. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.

      The review notes: "This elevation of tackiness to an art form is what we get from Julie Brown in "National Lampoon's Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 Women," a rousing 90- minute double feature of rude, crude and lewd that premieres at 8 p.m. Sunday on Showtime. Brown portrays Harding (called Tonya Hardly here) and Bobbitt (Lenora Babbitt for these purposes) in a pair of satires that prove as side-splitting as they are over-the-top. ... "Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 Women" is undeniably sophomoric stuff. Yet it's often so funny you have trouble catching your breath."

    8. Laurence, Robert P. (1994-08-18). "Tawdry events turn into comedies - Harding, Bobbitt inspire outrageous minimovies". The San Diego Union-Tribune. Archived from the original on 2024-04-28. Retrieved 2024-04-28.

      The review notes: "Under the umbrella title, "National Lampoon's Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 Women," Brown presents "Tonya: The Battle of Wounded Knee" and "He Never Gave Me Orgasm: The Lenora Babbitt Story." ... Her method is simple. Beginning with stories we all know, she takes each somewhere beyond the truth, twisting here, adding there, being careful to offend just about everybody at one time or another. And yes, both are very funny -- if you're not the sort to be easily outraged."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow National Lampoon's Attack of the 5 Ft. 2 In. Women to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 10:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources coverage identified above by Cunard and other editors earlier in the discussion that together shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim Sani

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under GNG or SNG. Basically a resume which collected and spun up a range of factoids. None of the references is even partial GNG type coverage of him. The only one describing him clearly looks like a self-supplied BIO.

Some concern that the creator has 25 lifetime edits and edit #5 was creation of this article which IMO was a wiki-saavy creation. North8000 (talk) 12:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Josh Warren

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this unfootnoted article about an actor and director, and not found anything to add. I don't think he meets WP:GNG or WP:ACTOR. Tacyarg (talk) 09:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 05:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of programmes broadcast by Colors Kannada

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Fails to meet WP:NLIST as none of the referencing (here or what I find online) discuss the programming as a group. References are basic for the individual programming and mention that it airs on Colors Kannada. We have a category for "Colors Kannada original programming" which suffices and Wikipedia is not an WP:INDISCRIMINATE list. CNMall41 (talk) 05:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Randykitty (talk) 15:28, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manoj Tiwari (film director)

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Fails WP:GNG. Came here to remove a reference that falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA and found that out of all the references on the page, only one would be considered reliable and it is about a film, not in-depth about the director. An online search founding nothing better. CNMall41 (talk) 02:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • delete: Although some of their later works appear to be notable, they themselves don't seem to have garnered much media attention, based on the sources of the article at least. The sources discuss about his work (film reviews), but the articles focus is not him. Obviously, sources about a film director will definitely discuss their work, but to meet notability, some of the sources need to focus mainly on the subject, then discussing their works. This is not the case here. So, delete for now. X (talk) 18:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect so we can deal with the constant attempts to remove that redirect?? No thanks. If redirect is an acceptable WP:ATD I would recommend protecting the title from creation. Also, welcome to Wikipedia. Strange you found AfD so quickly with only your third edit. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Curious which references you feel count towards notability that do not fall under NEWSORGINDIA.--CNMall41 (talk) 23:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails notability. The director has not made a remarkable or significant achievement, enough to deserve attention. A search on his name would bring up more result on different Manoj Tiwari, a politician. The sources on the page do not have coverage on the director himself to pass WP:BIO. RangersRus (talk) 13:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Fails WP:GNG, there are no much reliable secondary sources found where the subject got in-depth coverage. Grabup (talk) 07:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casey Childs

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Fails WP:GNG; no WP:SIGCOV; most recently edited by someone with an offensive username. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I wasn't able to find much information about him, beyond the fact that he's a theatre director. There is a passing mention in a brief Playbill article, which states that he is directing the play, but that was the only source I could find about the Casey Childs that matched the article's description. The other sources were about various different people named Casey Childs. Bandit Heeler (talk) 03:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I object to the fact that the majority of the nom relates to the fact that one of the edits to this article was by User:USAstinks ("most recently edited by someone with an offensive username"). That is an argument to avoid. The user did not create this article, and in fact they made only one of the 65 edits to this article over the last 16+ years. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with that. While I do believe that the article fails notability, I don't think the fact that one of the (not main) contributors to the article has an offensive name is a relevant point in a deletion discussion. Bandit Heeler (talk) 03:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps it is not very relevant, but i do agree with the point that there is not enough information about him. Kasphero (talk) 06:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge into Primary Stages. There appears to be a painter called Casey Childs who is more notable per the online coverage. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KCIB-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 12:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Through the Dragon's Eye. ✗plicit 12:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Through the Dragon's Eye episodes

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Looking back in articles history the sources given were links to youtube videos which were removed because of unclear copyright status - which appears to be where these plot summaries are lifted from (example ep1 matching the plot summary in this article exactly). This makes me think that the article is a possible copyvio itself. Either way the plot summaries excessive, and this is not an encylopedic list. -- D'n'B-t -- 09:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge and redirect to parent article Through the Dragon's Eye in it's existing "Episodes" section, but use the Template:Episode table template to organise this neater and with a condensed episode summary. I agree that it's hard to justify the need for a separate episode article for this TV series, which I recall well from my own childhood, but none the less accept the episodes themselves aren't particularly notable. I am not convinced by the WP:COPYVIO concerns as expressed by the nom, as it seems the episode summaries were written (c.2008) before they were uploaded to youtube (c.2010). If there was evidence the current episodes prose existed/exists elsewhere before being added to the article, that may then give weight to deletion. Bungle (talk • contribs) 12:00, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as outlined by Bungle – neither this list nor the parent article is long enough to justify a split. Some summaries may need to be trimmed after merging to comply with MOS:TVPLOT. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KELM-LP

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Seems like a remnant of the looser inclusion standards in this topic area in 2010 — the only known/discussed programming was a full-time national service. There's probably little-to-no significant coverage here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, as per Wcquidditch. Samoht27 (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to List of National Geographic original programming as a sensible ATD. Owen× ☎ 21:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Going Ape

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This article was previously deleted after an expired PROD. I could not find significant coverage of this documentary in reliable sources. I could not find any critical reviews. The New York Times source states, in full: "This three-part series looks at the way humans mimic chimpanzee behavior, starting with the power walk and dominance posture of the alpha male." The Futon Critic is a press release. A redirect to National Geographic Channel might be appropriate. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: The article should probably be marked as a stub in need for more references. As a National Geographic TV show featuring renowned primatologist and presenter Charlotte Uhlenbroek, it must have had coverage and reviews in media. The New York Times link is an example. JohnMizuki (talk) 11:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @JohnMizuki, I conducted a search and the only coverage of the show are brief announcements like the one in the NYT. A one sentence description is not significant coverage. The source's that you've added do not contribute to notability. The National Geographic sources are not independent and TV Guide is a one sentence description with links to find where to watch the show online.
    One way to establish notability would be to provide the three best sources that you can find. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding new sources that have been added: Broadway World is a NatGeo press release; OC Register has only three sentences about Going Ape: "This three-part series examines how similar human behavior is to that of our primate cousins. The show uses hidden cameras, social experiments and footage of apes and monkeys in the wild to show how human social behavior mirrors that of other species."; and Gizmodo is one sentence followed by a couple paragraphs quoting from a NatGeo press release description of the show.
    I will also add that I conducted my WP:BEFORE search on Google, Google News, and Newspapers.com, and the only sources I could find were one or two sentence TV Guide-type listings in newspapers, similar to the NYT. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Even with the newly added citations, it seems to fail GNG. Nearly all of the sources (other than PRs) make brief mentions of the show. It lacks in-depth independent analysis/coverage from a reliable major pub. X (talk) 19:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.. Liz Read! Talk! 06:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WKOB-LD

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Fails WP:GNG; too long; questionable sources. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: It clearly has a longer history than many other HC2/Innovate stations, but a good chunk of it has been relaying other stations (this was originally WCBS-TV's UHF translator back when the New York City stations all had those) or full-time national services. Maybe there's something out there at least about the station's Korean days of the 1990s and early 2000s (of note, this was not part of last year's bulk nomination of many HC2/Innovate station articles), but it's hard to imagine anything warranting anything more than an {{R to list entry}}. Probably another remnant of the looser inclusion "standards" of 2006 in the end. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of Daystar Television Network stations#Michigan. ✗plicit 04:28, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WUHQ-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to the Above article (List of Daystar Television Network stations#Michigan): Per Sammi and Nate, it's kinda of an alternative to deletion. mer764KCTV5 / Cospaw (He/Him | Talk • Contributions) 19:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre Gervois

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Pretty random artist; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 15:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: in general sources of WP:YOUTUBE are not notable and usable except under specific criteria. most sources are not independent of author. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 16:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I found one detailed source about the subject:
    1. Sawyer, Matthew Lee (2022). Make It in America: How International Companies and Entrepreneurs Can Successfully Enter and Scale in U.S. Markets. Hoboken, New Jersey: Wiley. pp. 55–56. ISBN 978-1-119-88514-6. Retrieved 2024-04-13 – via Google Books.

      The book provides 664 words of coverage about the subject. The book notes: "Pierre Gervois is an artist, author, teacher, and entrepreneur. He grew up in a conservative, traditional French family in Paris. When Pierre told his parents that he wanted to study modern art, they insisted he pursue a more predictable career in business, law, or engineering. He followed their wishes, earning a master's degree in political science and constitutional law at Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris. Unknown to them, though, during those years he also created 500 paintings and drawings."

      The book notes: "In addition to his entrepreneurial venture, Pierre rekindled his passion for art. With downtime during the 2020 pandemic, he created a website to show his paintings, drawings, and digital artwork. Within six weeks, he sold five pieces. The website also caught the attention of a New York City art gallery that wanted to exhibit his work."

    If there was one more good source, then Pierre Gervois would meet the notability guideline. The other sources I found were passing mentions or quotes from him in the media.

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The result was merge‎ to CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. ✗plicit 14:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of episodic appearances in CID

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Everything mentioned here (and more) is (or can be) covered in CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. Recommend redirect. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me 2 days of time so that I can add a long list of names so that this article is independent enough. Please don't delete this article. 103.87.143.74 (talk) 05:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:NLIST and add enough applicable references that discuss the list (and not just the list entries). AfDs last for a week at minimum, so you have lots of time. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. On balance, the Delete arguments carry more weight, but they do not rise to the level of a rough consensus to take any action, including redirecting. Improvements in sourcing made to the article during this monthlong AfD bring hope that by the time the page is eligible for renomination, that would not be necessary. Owen× ☎ 00:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chashni (TV series)

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Notability issue. It's not even runed for 6 months. Xegma(talk) 07:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and India. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 07:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. TV Series ran on Star Plus and streamed digitally on Disney+ Hotstar. Passes WP:GNG and WP:NTVNATL. Reliable sources. RangersRus (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Clearly passes WP:GNG and WP:NTV Imsaneikigai (talk) 06:39, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Redirect to StarPlus would be an acceptable WP:ATD but experience shows me it would likely end up in an edit war over the next year. The issue is not that the series exists, but the referencing. Notability is not based on WP:ITEXISTS. It is based on secondary "RELIABLE" sources. In this case, the sources cannot be considered reliable as they fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. No bylines and churnalism. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @User:CNMall41, i have updated the article with primary and better sources, hope now it is better. Please suggest improvements if any and please reconsider your vote. Imsaneikigai (talk) 12:26, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You included one reference which squarely falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Byline is "web desk." Not sure how much clearer I can make this. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These references [3] [4][5] [6] are primary sources and also have bylines. These also do not have any churnalism. Kindly check. @CNMall41 Imsaneikigai (talk) 16:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an interview with the actress about the actress and only mentions her role, This is an interview with the director which is not independent nor does it have editorial oversight, This is a brief announcement about it losing a time slot, and This is about an actress and only verifies she plays a role in the show, not in-depth about the show itself]. As previously stated, there is enough to verify its existence but WP:ITEXISTS couldn't be used as a valid argument. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:04, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This [7] interview is of the actor (hero) and not director, also can you explain what do you mean by "editorial oversight" because this article is based on the interview taken by the media house itself with the actor. Thanks. Imsaneikigai (talk) 18:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Editorial oversight is about fact checking. Interviews like this are not. Similar to you asking me a question and me answering, there needs to be editorial oversight where there is not in this case. I could say that I am a billionaire but without editorial oversight, there is no way to verify that. Regardless, it is not indepdnent and none of this is significant. AGAIN, it only VERIFIES the existence of the show, not establishes notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay but how can you say that there is no reference that denies WP:NEWSORGINDIA? because there are personalised interviews of the cast with the specific media house like Times of India and The Tribune! Imsaneikigai (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if I understand what you mean by "no reference that denies NEWSORGINDIA." The references you just pointed out are not independent and only brief mentions so there is no need to even evaluate them under NEWSORGINDIA because they couldn't be used to establish notability regardless. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:35, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to tag the articles/references i was talking about. This [8] the interview of one of the main cast about the track with The Tribune, second [9] this tells about the development a particular cast member has put to fit in role. Also this reference [10] tells us about the production phase of the series and is reliable as per WP:ICTFSOURCES Imsaneikigai (talk) 18:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is becoming ad nauseam and seems to be grasping at straws at this point. I realize you have a passion for this as the creator the page, but these have already been addressed. Interviews are not independent - PERIOD - It does not matter that they verify. One of the references is about an actor losing weight for the show. It only mentions him as having a part in the show, not anything about the show itself. The BH articles clearly falls under NEWSORGINDIA if you look at the byline. This I know you are familiar with as you talked about bylines above. Not sure what else to tell you at this point. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. A high profile tv series well sourced. Desertarun (talk) 08:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Passes GNG as far as the basic skeleton of the article, but the plot summary needs to either get better sourcing or needs to be switched to a two-sentence logline. Nate • (chatter) 22:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question - Can those voting !Keep possibly point out the references that show notability that do NOT fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA? I am seeing nothing but. I will gladly change my !vote if someone is willing to show me what I do not see. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    May I ask what policy that is, as thats a redlink@CNMall41 Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 12:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Me Da Wikipedian:, I fixed it. Two letters were transposed. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Article is well-sourced plus 6 month long run is not insignificant run. Pri2000 (talk) 18:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of beating a dead horse, can you point out the significant coverage that does not fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA?--CNMall41 (talk) 18:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: The series only ran for approximately 2.5 months. Despite being featured on a notable channel with a notable cast, the main issue with this article is its references. While it may meet WP:NTV, it certainly does not pass WP:GNG. & I agree with CNMall41's viewpoint, as it raises a valid point. ManaliJain (talk) 12:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey @ManaliJain, I have just updated and sourced the plot as well as cited the cast with sources which I feel are sufficient to determine significant coverage and verifiability. Also I have removed no bylines references as well. Please check. Thankyou. Imsaneikigai (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: First, I dont think duration is the parameter for notability because there are many Indian Series which have lasted lesser than the series or similar than the series like Pracchand Ashok (39 episodes), Sherdil Shergill, Lag Ja Gale etc. Secondly, I feel the article has enough reliable sources and has constantly been updated with regards to the problems suggested above by User:CNMall41. There are enough sources with bylines like these[11] [12] [13][14] [15] and also there is no churnalism because every media portal has taken separate interview with the cast or have written unidentical content on the series with establishes verifiability. Thirdly, if we look most of the Indian tv articles are mostly similarly referenced and I have searched Bollywood Hungama articles and every article has the same byline "Bollywood Hungama News Network" thereby certainly ensuring that not all articles are paid articles. I think every region has its own policies of journalism and litter leverage can be given on these aspects. Imsaneikigai (talk) 07:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Last comment I have to this AfD. As stated previously, these only verify the existence. Verifiability is not notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. I couldn’t find reliable evidence of WP:SIGCOV for a notability claim. Contributor892z (talk) 04:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or redirect to an article listing the channel's original media. Having reviewed the citatitons identified by Imsaneikigai, none of them include significant coverage of the subject itself, comprising either softball interviews with actors or promotional pre-release coverage. What we need are critics' reviews, or articles that otherwise comment on the substance and significance of the show; this is lacking after three relists. signed, Rosguill talk 15:37, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: No objection to a consensus Redirect to StarPlus. Sources show the subject exists, they do not have WP:SIRS addressing the subject directly and indepth from neutral non-promotional reliable sources addressing the subject directly and indepth. BEFORE found primary sources, name mentions, nothing meeting SIGCOV.  // Timothy :: talk  17:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: WP:HEY, article substantially improved since nomination, with bylined articles published in rather reliable media covering the production, so that deletion is quite unnecessary in my view. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Ugly Betty season 3#ep63. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the Stars (Ugly Betty)

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Non-notable television episode. Boarder line WP:ALLPLOT Couldnt find any sources on the episode Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The World in Your Home

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I couldn't establish that this programme was notable. Boleyn (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added some content and some citations to the article. I hope that those will help. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:56, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: For a lost 1940s TV show, we at least have a claim to significance, record on where it aired and some of what it contained, and a review. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 00:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: per HEY. Sources have since been added and show a variety of coverage from when the show aired that establish notability. GMH Melbourne (talk) 02:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of television stations in Tennessee#LPTV stations. Liz Read! Talk! 06:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WDHC-LD

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Fails WP:GNG; some sources are questionable. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Only seeing press releases and TV guides as coverage, which isn't secondary. BrigadierG (talk) 01:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

W33EL-D

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 17:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. While it could be argued that this discussion should be closed as No consensus I find the new accounts who popped up to argue for Deletion more than a little suspicious. AFD is not a place that new editors find on their first few days editing. Plus those editors arguing to Keep this article are AFD regulars I trust. Liz Read! Talk! 06:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alisha Newton

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Not yet notable per WP:ENTERTAINER or WP:NACTOR. None of the cited sources are considered reliable. I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject to meet WP:ENT/WP:GNG— Preceding unsigned comment added by Raqib Sheikh (talk • contribs) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ok if it gets !deleted as well, I didn't see coverage that I'd use to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 18:16, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that is so, would you please recommend deletion for this article in this talk page. For some reason, this AFD hasn't produced much discussion as of yet and I'm not sure how Wikipedia will deal with such nomination whose discussion page doesn't even have one recommendation. Raqib Sheikh (talk) 11:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete No reliable sources or coverages to build an article. Izzac Leiberheir (talk) 03:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I have also looked into the article and I frankly agree with the nomination. Couldn't find a single reference from a reliable source. Ashik Rahik (talk) 05:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Most of the sources if not all were based on a notable film. I was also thinking of the nominations when WP:ACTOR said, "multiple and lead roles". I became skeptic if her roles in the films other than Heartland (inclusively too). But the film.is notable and she was much credited for it. I have no other option that this meets notability guidelines.Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 02:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Passes WP:NACTOR has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. Theroadislong (talk) 07:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Theroadislong, appearing in multiple films without verifiability doesn't meet notability. Besides, almost all the sources were centralized to reviews or mention of her on the film, Heartland and remember, that isn't significant coverages. While Wikipedia is not perfect, redirect seems to work here per her acting non or less lead roles. Unless the article has been covered for playing a particular role in two or more films (considered notable per WP:NFILM), it should be kept, if not —redirect per WP:ATD. — Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 10:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep the sources here look good enough. And here's another one from a major newspaper in 2013. A decade of media coverage! And really, 10 seasons in a major national TV series - I'm not sure why we are here. Nfitz (talk) 16:14, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you sure the sources are reliable? Because they don't seem reliable to me, as per Wikipedia's reliable source list: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources - Wikipedia. None of the cited sources within the article are on the list. And as per my knowledge about Wikipedia, when an article does not have reliable sources as references, which is when some or at least one these sources is not cited, then there's a big reason to delete the article. Raqib Sheikh (talk) 05:20, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you really suggesting, User:Raqib Sheikh that a 120-year old Postmedia broadsheet is not a reliable source? That list came about to document bad sources. The Toronto Star - the largest newspaper in the nation, and the paper of record in Toronto isn't there as well. Neither is The Gazette - the largest English-language paper in Quebec. Would you discount those? Their lack of presence on that list simply indicates no one has ever felt a need to question it! Nfitz (talk) 20:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Keep Believe it satisfies WP:GNG MaskedSinger (talk) 05:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 03:48, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

W39CA-D

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Subject does not contain the WP:SIGCOV needed to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 00:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Euros of Hollywood. Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jannik Olander (jewelry designer)

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Salt evasion of Jannik Olander. This recreation was kept at a very-low-participation AfD in the past, but I doubt the community's consensus has truly changed rather than that being a fluke of who happened to participate. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect - I agree with Oaktree b as the subject doesn't have enough coverage. Hkkingg (talk) 11:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahabharat (animated TV series)

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under SNG or GNG. Series that is only on YouTube and and a streaming service. Not only does it not have GNG sources, it really has zero sources. Of the two references, one is to it's sales page and the other is a link to one of it's youtube videos. North8000 (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Sandstein 19:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Way Out with Jurriaan Kamp

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Fails WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 12:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete The network it's on, EarthX, doesn't have an article; it does have some distribution on major pay-TV systems in the US, but like other channels like AWE, it's basically a dumping ground for vanity project environmental documentaries even Tubi can't bother to deal with like this show. The WP:SPAness doesn't help here, either. Nate • (chatter) 23:01, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm probably going to end up agreeing with the Delete vote, although I'm still looking to see if there's more sources, but I feel like I have to point out that the fact that the network it's on (EarthX) doesn't have an article is not a valid reason for deletion. The network actually looks like it could easily have an article, as there's a lot of secondary sources reporting on it. Fred Zepelin (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 03:44, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WXXW-LP

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 13:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 13:12, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Germany

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in France

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  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 01:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Finland

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Delete WP:NLIST, WP:INDISCRIMINATE. No coverage as a set in RS. BrigadierG (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 01:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Hungary

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are nonexistent. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG (talk) 10:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 01:53, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Greece

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are nonexistent. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN. Liz Read! Talk! 06:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sabado Barkada

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009 but was actually unreferenced since 2006. No good hits on GNews and GBooks. GNews archives only turned out two ads related to it. Alternatively, Redirect to List of programs broadcast by ABS-CBN. --Lenticel (talk) 02:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 12:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WAST-LP

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I have added several references, most offline to NewsBank (Duluth paper is some of the hardest to obtain anywhere — that can be said of any Forum Communications paper!). There is SIGCOV of its very short-lived news operation. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Each of the sources added by Sammi provide the WP:SIGCOV needed for this subject to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 04:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Vietnam

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. This fails to meet the WP:LISTN criteria. Let'srun (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 23:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Thailand

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, sources are primary sources, nothing but news announcements and none of those assert notability. Those arguing for a keep claiming how useful it is, shall be advised to refer to WP:USEFUL. I also advise Fandom for them if they want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: No opinion on the page in its current format, which does seem to be WP:LISTCRUFT, but it's a notable topic with potential for a valid article, especially given the long-standing legal and political issues surrounding broadcasting rights for major sporting events (mostly football) since 2012, which have been widely covered.[20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29] If the page does get deleted it should be without prejudice to the creation of a proper article. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep based on sources found. Deletion is not cleanup. Esolo5002 (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Despite sources, will never pass WP:NLIST. A list wihtout body text for context will never pass GNG too. This is 2024, not 2004. Wikipedia standards has gone a long way since. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:39, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Wikipedia is not a tv guide, this fails to meet the WP:NLIST. Let'srun (talk) 14:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Poland

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG (talk) 10:25, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. This fails to meet the WP:LISTN criteria. Let'srun (talk) 14:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to KJJC-TV. There's a consensus here not to retain (between nominator, two bolded opinions and one comment), choosing redirect as an AtD. Daniel (talk) 01:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KINV-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Delete or merge with sister KJJC-TV. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 01:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Anyone is free to create a redirect if they see it fit. ✗plicit 14:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WWBK-LP

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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 21:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 13:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Brazil

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  • Delete – Per WP:NLIST. Sports contracts are dynamic with broadcasters, even more so with the entry of streaming. This list doesn't seem relevant. Svartner (talk) 05:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete these article seem to me like the lists of airline destinations that often appear at AfD. Sourced to primary sources or routine announcements, essentially directories, and unclear whether they are updated regularly enough even to be useful as directories. Mccapra (talk) 11:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 10:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Canada

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  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of EuroLeague broadcasters

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  • Delete as a directory. Mccapra (talk) 11:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No indication WP:LISTN is met: One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources...—Bagumba (talk) 00:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Latvia

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG (talk) 10:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Lithuania

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Delete - No merit under WP:NLIST BrigadierG (talk) 10:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. This doesn't pass the criteria established by the WP:NLIST. Let'srun (talk) 14:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:52, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Romania

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Portugal

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  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. A merger discussion can continue editorially Star Mississippi 14:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michele Fitzgerald

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Notable for only winning Survivor: Kaôh Rōng. I think her runner-up finish in Survivor: Winners at War doesn't have enough depth or substantial coverage to be as equally notable as her Survivor win, despite being highly focused there. Same can be said about her appearances in The Challenge, where she hasn't yet won. I don't think she qualifies for WP:NENT either. Must be redirected to Survivor: Kaôh Rōng per WP:BIO1E (if WP:BLP1E doesn't apply), WP:PAGEDECIDE, or WP:BIODELETE. George Ho (talk) 01:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I think more independent reliable source are needed.--Meligirl5 (talk) 09:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How do independent reliable sources make BLP1E or BIO1E inapplicable? Even meeting WP:N or GNG would not outweigh the topic's potential failures to comply with the project's policy toward such biographies, but I bet you disagree, eh? George Ho (talk) 09:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I clearly understood she was only notable because she won in a notable event. But I can’t say delete or keep because the biography tells more than just the notable event but fails providing sources to meet WP:GNG. So I just had to suggest an opinion that could help to meet WP:GNG. Other editors are welcome to say what they feel.--Meligirl5 (talk) 11:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose deletion because of her performance in both of her Survivor seasons, but I agree more independent reliable sources are needed. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 20:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I oppose this because I love survivor. 75.132.100.119 (talk) 01:26, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify I would suggest the article should be move to draft space, since she seems to be notable for a particular event but fails WP:GNG. Maybe before the 6 months time more proof of notability would have been gathered for the subject to be on the main space. If no improvement after 6 months, the draft page will be deleted as per wikipedia draft page policy under WP:G13.--Meligirl5 (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in South Korea

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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. The only source are simply announcment, just not worthy of an encyclopaedic value. Those arguing for a keep must be advised of WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. A jumble of sports contracts, not encylopedic or maintainable. Desertarun (talk) 11:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Fails NLIST no indication this has been discussed as a group, meets LISTCRUFT, there is nothing encyclopedic here.  // Timothy :: talk  22:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Netherlands

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WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, all of the sources are primary sources, are nothing but announcements and does not assert notability. @BrigadierG: per suggestion by admin. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. A jumble of sports contracts, not encylcopedic. Desertarun (talk) 11:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. This does not meet the criteria established by WP:LISTN. Let'srun (talk) 00:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of television stations in Tennessee#LPTV stations. The argument that this meets GNG was refuted without subsequent rebuttal. Daniel (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WCKV-LD

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

K21JQ-D

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KRLB-LD

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 03:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Estonia

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Very simply, WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Note that I'm unfortunately nominating a lot of pages separately here because there is consensus at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sports_broadcasting_contracts_in_Serbia that these shouldn't be nominated together. BrigadierG (talk) 16:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per my rationale in my previous nomination, literally irredeemable list. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. Don't see any reason for deleting these articles. There is encyclopedic value to them. Also WP:NOTTVGUIDE doesn't even cover these pages, at all. "An article on a broadcaster should not list upcoming events" these articles aren't articles on broadcasters, they are articles on the rights/contracts. The rule, to me at least, seems to be there to avoid actual tv guides as in "on this channel, this show is on monday at 8, this at 9..." etc. which is entirely different. Keep the pages around, if some of the country pages lack references then tag the pages for that and move along. For this page literally every entry has a reference so I see absolutely no reason for even trying to delete this. Shadess (talk) 17:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    > There is encyclopedic value to them
    WP:BELONG
    > every entry has a reference
    WP:LOTSOFSOURCES
    The bar here is showing that there is reliable, in-depth coverage from multiple secondary sources independent of the subject. There is not a single secondary source on this article, every single one is based on a press release and involves no secondary coverage or discussion. Further more, there are no sources that satisfy WP:NLIST - every source trivially covers some specific contract, and none of them discuss the sector of broadcasting rights in Estonia as a whole. BrigadierG (talk) 20:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The bar here is for you to also show why these should be deleted and not just tagged for improving/adding references. I'll say it again, WP:NOTTVGUIDE that you cite as a reason doesn't even cover these pages. Could you address that?Shadess (talk) 12:08, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      > The bar here is for you to also show why these should be deleted and not just tagged for improving/adding references
      No it isn't - WP:ONUS. Articles are only kept if they meet either WP:GNG or one of the subject-specific notability standards underneath it, such as WP:NLIST. I can't see there's even a single source that satisfies the notability requirements set up under WP:GNG, so that's my reason for deleting it. And for the avoidance of doubt, the criteria for those sources are the last 4 bullet points of WP:SIGCOV. The issue you're gonna run into is WP:SECONDARY and WP:NLIST requiring discussion of the group as a whole, and not just individual members. BrigadierG (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nom. This is just a directory. Mccapra (talk) 21:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus to delete. After much-extended time for discussion, there is a clear absence of a consensus for deletion. Discussion revolves almost entirely around the volume and usability of sources for this article, and while it can be said to hang on by the barest of threads in terms of quality of sources, it is not clearly established that it relies solely on impermissible sources. This may be revisited in the future, if sourcing improves, or if it becomes clear that sourcing cannot be improved. BD2412 T 20:53, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sohag Chand

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mostly run of the mill coverage that does not confer notability Sohom (talk) 13:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete No WP:SIGCOV, looks like the marketing department scraping the barrel to make it look notable. The Banner talk 14:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Some of the coverage is significant; some on the page and some not yet. (It's a series not a film btw).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mushy Yank Could you identify said pieces of significant non-run-of-the-mill coverage ? Sohom (talk) 13:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "Daily soap ‘Sohag Chand’ completes 100 episodes";"Did you know ‘Sohag Chand’ is the remake of Marathi show ‘SuManamadhe Bharli?’ " and "'Sohag Chand': শেষ পর্যন্ত জিতবে সোহাগ চাঁদের দল! কোন দিকে মোড় নেবে ধারাবাহিকের গল্প?"
    are significant and on the page. And this or this, or this also is significant coverage, yet is not on the page (yet; but feel free to add it), for example. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:29, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • In my opinion, what you call "significant sources" is nothing more then the marketing department talking. The Banner talk 23:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
These are more under WP:NEWSORGINDIA - non-bylined churnalism - unreliable to use for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:05, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note about the Times of India: The Sources noticeboard says not to use it for political subject matters for example, which the Indian task force clarifies: "Uncontroversial content such as film reviews are usable". Consensus is that concern about retributed coverage exists, but not to the point of making it unreliable. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your interpretation of the guidelines here. One of the primary reason the use of Times of India is discouraged is because it is known to accept payments from individual/companies in return for positive coverage. The Indian TV series business is well known for using money to prompt positive coverage (see the multitude of sock puppet rings surrounding this topic area). If this was indeed a actual full length film review, I would have happily accepted your argument. However, the sources are very short article that reeks of WP:CHURNALISM and paid coverage, which is something that TOI is well known for doing. I thus don't think the TOI sources are admissible from a notability POV. Sohom (talk) 20:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not my interpretation of the guideline, that's the current consensus on two project pages and an exact quote that you can verify if you want. I know nothing about sockpuppets in the present case. As for all the sources being "very short", not sure you can say that. Anyway I wish to stand by my !vote, if you allow me, and will leave it at that. Also, a redirect to Colors Bangla or to the original series, should be considered anyway (both mention the series). Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:03, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Entertainment4Reality regarding sockpuppets. Regarding the rest, I'll probably bring this up at WP:RSN. Sohom (talk) 02:17, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is not the interpretation that was reached by consensus. Relevant discussion if you choose to participate is here.--CNMall41 (talk) 20:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What interpretation? What consensus? I quoted (not interpreted) the current consensus (just open the links). Again, your link is to an ongoing discussion in which you both are (very) involved: nothing so far can be considered established by that other thread except the fact that the opinions you express here too are indeed your personal interpretation of the current consensus and/or the fact that you would like to establish a new one! How could that be of any weight concerning what should be decided here? It’s like wanting to change a guideline in real time so that you can delete a page that’s being debated... not really fair imv. Last words here: feel free to remove the sources that are judged unreliable if the page is kept and don’t forget to consider a Redirect if a standalone article is not deemed suitable. Again, here too, consider this my final reply. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first thing I linked to in this discussion is WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Is that not something that was determined through consensus? Seems to be unless there is something I missed. I went ahead and evaluated all the sources and listed in my !vote below.--CNMall41 (talk) 02:48, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - I would think a show that is notable would have more press outside of Times of India but there is little. What I see is churnalism that falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Like the policy or not, it is consensus and these references for this show are not reliable for establishing notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:52, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Bengali One India, Bengali One India is part of OneIndia and pursuant to this relevant RSN discussion, “OneIndia and all its derivatices like Filmibeat, Gizbot, Etc, are content farms.”
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.
Times of India, no byline. Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. Not reliable for notability.

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As with your vote in the other deletion discussion, it is based on sourcing that falls under NEWSORGINDIA. I would invite you to take part in that discussion linked above. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: So much WP:TOI. No SIGCOV outside that. TOI is highly unreliable for BLPs due to their paid editing policies, and this is an excellent example how that's true. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The only one of those with a byline is the first and only covers an outing that cast had, nothing in-depth about the show. The rest is clearly NEWSORGINDIA. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is coverage in the Bengali Language the ABP Live Bangla example has covered the serial extensively have listed 22 articles.12 345 6 7 8910111213141516171819202122.Hindustan Times Bengali 3 articles 123Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:01, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ataska Mercado

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Not yet notable per WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:NACTOR or WP:MUSICBIO. In a WP:BEFORE search I could find no significant coverage in reliable sources, apart from this review in the Manila Standard. Being a non-winning contestant on a reality TV series seems to be her main claim to fame, and her film and music careers haven't really taken off yet. WP:TOOSOON at best. Wikishovel (talk) 09:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Vivamax app background and reach here:
https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/08/25/entertainment-lifestyle/show-times/vivamax-hits-600000-subscribers-no-1-on-google-play-in-first-six-months/1812190/amp
See below references of her notable vivamax app movies performances:
https://www.pep.ph/pepalerts/cabinet-files/175244/vivamax-stars-joey-reyes-a734-20230816?s=d765687h8kgrf9g0km65269jeu
https://journalnews.com.ph/ataska-leaves-wholesome-image-for-a-dream/
See references below that must be used as motable instead of the voice kids but it made her a household name ehich is often referenced as the start of her career (see here as one of the many: https://mb.com.ph/2022/10/17/audiojunkie-sarah-geronimo-as-disco-queen-ataska-kyle-raphael-adda-cstr-chrstn-chelsea-ronquillo-and-the-real-kushin-drop/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.29.97.141 (talk) 09:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with those sources you've cited, like the ones cited in the article, is that they're either unreliable news blogs or only passing mentions in WP:Reliable sources. What's needed is significant coverage in reliable WP:Secondary sources to show notability. Wikishovel (talk) 09:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a reliable source as an active showbiz personality in the Philippines: http://www.vivaartistsagency.ph/project/ataska/
Pxsheng25 (talk) 09:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for logging back in. It's a reliable source, but not a WP:Secondary source. Wikishovel (talk) 09:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See this: https://www.viberate.com/artist/ataska/
Other article that make her recognizble is under her birth name ATASCHA CHLOE MERCADO:
https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/230110/whats-with-annie-being-staged-in-manila-in-18-year-intervals/amp/
120.29.97.141 (talk) 09:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please log back in. viberate.com is unreliable, and the inquirer.net reference is a passing mention. I hope you now see the pattern. Rather than posting references here, you're welcome to improve the article. Wikishovel (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will help improve the article
Kuyacontributor (talk) 10:01, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changes now applied to improve the page and claim notability
Kuyacontributor (talk) 07:22, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. References provided above are to Mercado's talent agency which manage and market her career. It therefore lacks indpendence and cannot be considered reliable. No significant coverage found in independent secondary sources. Fails notability criteria.4meter4 (talk) 18:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Meets WP:SIGCOV due to new Known For section on Infobox Kuyacontributor (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC) — Kuyacontributor (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Keep. Link sources below claim notability for this individual which is outside Mercado's talent agency and from verified pages that are part of Wikipedia. Articles below are not a passing mention and from reliable sources news.

Spotify [1] People's Journal [2] Abante [3] Manila Bulletin [4] DWNU [5] Showbiz Unlimited [6] Phoenix14344 (talk) 23:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC) — Phoenix14344 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

References

  1. ^ https://open.spotify.com/artist/5WXOc5RknE9PY8ie8plLvx
  2. ^ https://journalnews.com.ph/ataska-from-sweetie-teenybop-singer-to-a-daring-star/#gsc.tab=0
  3. ^ https://tonite.abante.com.ph/2024/02/21/ataska-perfect-kasalo/
  4. ^ https://mb.com.ph/2022/10/17/audiojunkie-sarah-geronimo-as-disco-queen-ataska-kyle-raphael-adda-cstr-chrstn-chelsea-ronquillo-and-the-real-kushin-drop/
  5. ^ https://www.wish1075.com/young-charmer-ataska-returns-brand-new-single-fall-love/
  6. ^ https://www.showbizportal.net/2023/11/former-wholesome-singer-ataska-plays.html?m=1
Please note that Spotify is not a WP:Reliable source, nor showbizportal.net (unconnected to Showbiz Unlimited). The journalnews.com.ph and wish1075 sources are short interviews with her, and interviews are a WP:Primary source. The mb.com.ph article mentions her briefly in a weekly singles roundup. Abante is a lurid tabloid: please note that Wikipedia also has articles on sources like the WP:DAILYMAIL and WP:NYPOST, but references from those aren't acceptable sources, especially for WP:Biographies of living persons. Wikishovel (talk) 05:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per pxsheng25 she is an accredited adult film actress in the Philippines.
SWDG 18:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SWDG: can you please explain what you mean by "accredited", and how that makes her notable enough by the Wikipedia guidelines listed in the nomination? Wikishovel (talk) 18:58, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
by accredited I simply mean that she is known and recognized for her work. I do understand you consider nearly all above sources to be primary or 'passing mentions' however a strong argument could be made that the manila times article referencing VivaMax's success at 600K downloads and being #1 on the play store could be attributed to Ataska's success in her career, thus establishing notability. SWDG 19:14, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. It's true that the editors need to be more selective about reliable sources, and the article could certainly be improved, but that's the point: the article could be improved. It can't be if it's deleted. The AfD lister asked for improvement and it appears to be happening. rspεεr (talk) 18:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of programs broadcast by People's Television Network#Previously aired programs. Liz Read! Talk! 04:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Balitaan (2013 TV program)

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Unreferenced since 2019. No good references obtained in GSearch, GBooks, GNews and GNews Archives. Suggest List of programs broadcast by People's Television Network as plausible WP:ATD --Lenticel (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:00, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sohag Jol

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Only run of the mill coverage. Sohom (talk) 20:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete A WP:COI-problem is also possible. This article reads as work from the marketing department desperately looking for sources. The Banner talk 22:44, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I have improved the page by adding more reliable sources.And these sources clearly passes WP:NTV and WP:GNG with sufficient WP:RS. So there is no question of deletion. Nilpriyo (talk) 10:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You have changed not a letter since the nomination... The Banner talk 08:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Setting aside the COI and SPI issue, all of the references fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Not a single one has a byline that shows it is written by anyone on staff which indicates churnalism or sponsored post.--CNMall41 (talk) 05:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Notable television series and clearly passes WP:GNG and and WP:NTV coverage. 103.121.36.100 (talk) 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]
  • Note to closer - As expected, IP address part of the SPI related to this page shows up to vote. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also note associated SPI. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. The Delete arguments are stronger, but without quorum, and with opposition to a soft delete, no action can be taken at this point. Owen× ☎ 14:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SF X Fantasy Rayforce

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A television series that never was. Fails WP:GNG Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep. Interesting niche stuff about Korean planned and apparently abandoned TV series. Korean wiki article has no references at all. Current sourcing: 1) English language email interview with the director at scifijapan.com [35]. According to [36], this is "a fan-made website", there is no information on who conducted the intereview 2) a Korean language news article [37] from thisisgame.com, by "Reporter Park Sang-beom". According to NamuWiki [38] it is " a webzine frequently visited by people in the industry". So the sources are borderline reliable, that provide some SIGCOV of this. The nominator failed to do a WP:BEFORE (WP:TROUT is awarded). There is next to nothing else under English title. Sadly, I am not fluent in Korean, so I rely on machine translation, but I see some coverage, ex. [39] for example states "The demo video of the science fiction drama 'Space Electric Ray Force', scheduled to be broadcast in September 2010, is receiving great response from netizens", however the source is some minor Korean news site. There is various other coverage: [40] - some of it may be rewritten press releases, Korean news websites are not great (although frankly coverage of such niche topics in English and other languages is often less than Pulitzer-winning too...). Bottom line is that we need someone familiar with Korean Internet to comment on whether there is some reliable, SIGCOV coverage. What I see is borderline, and given the nominator did not bother to analyze the sources or do BEFORE, and nobody else presented a critique of the article or sourcing - a week keep is justified. PS. I've added a bit about the cast, and refs to support the claims from ko wiki (which as I said has no refs); I hope my machine translation of the refs is not faulty. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for reviewing the references. I suggest we stick to Wikipedia:TVSERIES. I know, it is not a notability guideline but a tool to help determine notability. It says: "In most cases, a television series or season is not eligible for an article until it has been confirmed by reliable sources to have started filming (excluding a pilot's filming)". I checked the referenced interview; it was held at a time when filming had not started. For want of confirmation in reliable, independent sources that filming indeed had started, I maintain my deletion proposal. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I concur that this did not get filmed, but the promo video attracted some attention. I will stand by my weak keep, while hoping editors more fluent in Korean than me, and familiar with the reliability of Korean websites, will chime in. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. The show never aired, this isn't a barrier to inclusion but neither the article nor the refs look like they're saying notable to me. Desertarun (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irena Justine

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Fails WP:GNG, most of these sources barely seem to qualify this person as notable. Allan Nonymous (talk) 01:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Television, and Indonesia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I agree, the article subject doesn’t meet notability requirements. Nate Higgers (talk) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. And improve with the help of the (WP) pages in Indonesian about her and the films/series she played in, and that seem to show she meets WP:NACTOR although she died young.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. According to WP:NACTOR, the individual must have had substantial roles in various notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. However, the person in question does not meet this requirement, as they have never portrayed lead roles or appeared in notable films. Ckfasdf (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Seems important, and references seem legit. In general, multiple references talking about the subject like this is probably enough to indicate notability. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:*Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [41]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [42] [43]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

— 202.43.93.9 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
— Struck per WP:SOCKSTRIKE Allan Nonymous (talk) 21:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. I added some references from the Indonesian article. I think she had many important roles. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Subjects who are notable in Indonesia are just as important as subjects who are notable in the US, and article editors are improving the references. rspεεr (talk) 17:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. This is not a Keep closure or a Delete closure. Do to a lack of participation, I see no consensus here. If the nominator wants to hold a follow-up AFD, please wait an appropriate period of time. Coming back too soon to AFD will likely result in a similar closure to this one. If this AFD can only garner a handful of participants, a new AFD happening too soon will likely have even fewer participants. Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Faysal Aziz Khan

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He's a TV host but he fails to meet relevant WP:JOURNALIST as well WP:GNG —Saqib (talk | contribs) 20:53, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He does full fill the WP:NOTNEWS the editor has nominated this article for personal grudge towards the creator of article he is being victim of WP:PA which is against Wikipedia policy. this journalist has notable contribution for journalism previous worked at Vice President Geo News and currently serving as SVP of national tv channel based in Pakistan called BOL Network. Faizan Munawar Varya chat contributions 20:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Faizanalivarya: See WP:NPA --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 20:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. WP:PROMO article that lacks coverage in secondary sources directly about him. I can there are some press releases about his appointment on corporate positions but Wikipedia is not your WP:CV. 163.47.119.21 (talk) 12:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Liz: It was PROD'd by the creator of this BLP Themselves. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 07:34, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Liz,
This article belongs to a journalist based in Pakistan and all citations were update, nominating user keep requesting for deletion of my article without putting any citation needed tags or contributing in updating article, I would request please remove the deletion request as this article fulfills the notability requirement user saqib has accused me for COI and keep lying, please do the needful. Thanks Faizan Munawar Varya chat contributions 23:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz as I mentioned above the article has been updated with new citations and I will update article again and the individual is well known Pakistani journalist there is no violation of notability guidelines, I request to please keep the article. Faizan Munawar Varya chat contributions 23:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The frustration to rescue this BLP indeed suggests there may be a COI or potentially paid editing at play here. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 00:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just curious why IP addresses from outside Pakistan are involved in voting deletions here. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 08:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. There hasn't been partcipation in the last two weeks. (non-admin closure) ToadetteEdit! 05:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fourth Down and Love

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Article about a television film, not properly referenced as passing either WP:NFILM or WP:TVSHOW. As always, television films are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to show evidence of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about them -- but this is referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability, with absolutely no evidence of third-party media coverage shown at all. Bearcat (talk) 18:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: The Southern Living article is "Checking out an exclusive clip". This is about the extent of all coverage I find, where to watch the thing. The TV Guide sourcing in the article is bare, so isn't a valid source. I don't mind any reviews other than what's given already, that's not enough. Oaktree b (talk) 20:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This [44], still doesn't add enough to the discussion to !keep. Oaktree b (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. White, Brett (2023-09-09). "Stream It or Skip It: 'Fourth Down and Love' on Hallmark Scores a Touchdown Thanks to Pascale Hutton and Ryan Paevey". Decider. Archived from the original on 2024-04-07. Retrieved 2024-04-07.

      The review notes: "I’m happy to report that Fourth Down and Love offers no real surprises plot-wise and pretty much adheres to every trope you expect from both a Hallmark romance and a kid-centric sports movie. You bet Mike’s brother and sister-in-law try to set him up with Erin every chance they can get. You bet there’s a sweet and sassy grandma. There’s a fundraiser, a winning touchdown, hurt feelings and boosted morale, all that good stuff. I’m happy that Fourth Down and Love has all of that, because all of those plot points are fun to see and because it means I can focus this take on what the movie really excels at: character."

    2. Nowak, Laura (2023-09-09). "Fourth Down and Love Explores Second Chances at Love". TV Fanatic. Archived from the original on 2024-04-07. Retrieved 2024-04-07.

      The review is listed on Rotten Tomatoes here.

      The review notes: "While we're unsure if this film was a one-off or part of a movie series, I'm crossing my fingers for more. I found the entire Hanson family to be charming, and I'd love to see Mike coach another season of the Whalers flag football team with assistance from Jimmy, Danielle, and Erin. Since this was the first adult male that gave Kiara any attention, I think we need more time to see how the family dynamics evolve now that Mike is her mom's boyfriend and her coach."

    3. Wang, K.L. Connie (2023-09-09). "An Awkward Second Meet-Cute Reunites a Single Mom and Pro Football Player in Hallmark's 'Fourth Down and Love'". Parade. Archived from the original on 2024-04-07. Retrieved 2024-04-07.

      The article notes: "In Hallmark Channel's latest Fall into Love movie, a single mom runs into her old college sweetheart who is now a professional football player. ... Fourth Down and Love premieres on Saturday, Sept. 9 at 8 p.m. ET on Hallmark Channel."

    4. Baer, Rebecca Angel (2023-09-07). "Check Out An Exclusive Clip From Hallmark's Football-Themed 'Fourth Down And Love'". Southern Living. Archived from the original on 2024-04-07. Retrieved 2024-04-07.

      The article notes: "Hallmark is giving all fans a big treat with their newest flick in their Fall into Love programing, Fourth Down and Love starring Pascale Hutton and Ryan Paevey. Paevey plays professional football star Mike Hansen who suffers an injury that sidelines him for a month. Mike’s brother Jimmy (Dan Payne, Outrunners) convinces Mike to come home while he’s recovering."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Fourth Down and Love to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

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The result was delete‎. No P&G-based arguments brought up by the Keep participants. Owen× ☎ 14:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in South America

Sports broadcasting contracts in South America (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason below:

Sports broadcasting contracts in Central America (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Sports broadcasting contracts in Middle East & North Africa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

WP:NOTGUIDE applies here. The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Also, the sources are announcements or are primary and does not assert notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:25, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:NOTTVGUIDE covers this explicitly BrigadierG (talk) 12:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all: Wikipedia is not a TV guide. Let'srun (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: At least keep the South America article, which is more updated. These articles help out of country viewers information about sports rights in their countries, and as such they serve a reference function worthy of encyclopedic value. The majority are good articles with good independent references and should not be considered for deletion. These lists are not TV guides--Claudio Fernag (talk) 18:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:VALUABLE applies. Useful to you but it doesn't mean it should belong on Wikipedia. Is it sourced though? Does it have a reliable third party source that is not news announcements? SpacedFarmer (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Wikipedia isn't a TV guide. This does not meet the WP:LISTN criteria. Let'srun (talk) 16:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    These lists are not TV guides. Claudio Fernag (talk) 19:48, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not as in what time your favourite league is on your TV channel. More like a list of what channel you can watch your favourite leagues. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:41, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. This isn't encyclopedic content, and it doesn't meet WP:NLIST in any way, shape or form. Note: the only person so far advocating keeping is the creator of the South American article. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep:There are other similar articles on lists of sports rights (football, Olympics, basketball, etc.) that are a contribution and not TV guides.--Edu1388 (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:USEFUL applies to this argument. The difference between this and others you mentioned (or some) is that they are in a better quality and this isn't. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:43, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for the reasons outlined by Claudio Fernag --Pablo inos (talk) 21:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please come up with a better argument than that. SpacedFarmer (talk) 22:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Randykitty (talk) 10:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Powerpuff Girls (disambiguation)

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It's a page that lists everything in the Powerpuff Girls franchise, which already exists through The Powerpuff Girls (franchise). kpgamingz (rant me) 16:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems this should be kept due to Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Industrial Insect (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's still not ambiguous enough for a disambiguation page. It's only for a single topic/franchise. kpgamingz (rant me) 21:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Add link to franchise page to the top of the TV series page. Having disambiguation for this is excessive and unnecessary: They ALL relate to the same franchise. WikiMane11 (talk) 01:03, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I cleaned it up. There are 5 relevant links to similar named articles, there is no delete here. Desertarun (talk) 19:24, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to The Powerpuff Girls (franchise), which features all of these things sufficiently. Esolo5002 (talk) 01:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Disambiguation pages are for listing unrelated topics. All of these are related to each other and hence this is not a valid dab. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, precisely per Pppery. Leaving a redirect at this title would falsely imply that there are multiple unrelated topics sharing the name. BD2412 T 02:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above, and since the target is not a disambiguation per se. Seems confusing and misleading for readers to leave this as a redirect. CycloneYoris talk! 01:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to The Powerpuff Girls (franchise): Information is in infobox. Cleo Cooper (talk) 06:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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