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September 7

merging articles

Could you please merge Ju Ji Hoon with Joo Ji Hoon? I don't know how to merge articles. Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 01:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. For future reference, that's something that can be done even without an account. The steps are here :) --Moonriddengirl 01:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

shortcut

Is a redirect, when it has to do with Wiki, like a shortcut? 24.14.216.60 01:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Sort of, yes, it is usually a common misspelling, pronunciation, or other variant of an article's name, that leads to the most likely article desired. Sometimes, it is not what the person is looking for, and at the top of the article, they will usually find a link to alternate articles with same or similar names, or a link to the disambiguation page to assist them. ^Ariel♥Gold 01:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yet another redirect

If you ever have time, could you please redirect "Lee Min Gi" to Lee Min Ki? 24.14.216.60 01:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done Lee Min Gi Cheers, ^Ariel♥Gold 01:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

-_- You're done, huh? -_-

Never mind! ♥ Thank you!♥ You know, I feel like I'm making new friends on Wikipedia!♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done, please check your talk page for information about signing your posts. (At the top right, click on 'my talk') Cheers, ^Ariel♥Gold 01:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing my sources

Hi, I recently edited an article on Plato, and I was wondering how I can cite my fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 01:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

See reliable sources, citation, and citation templates. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 01:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, i just tried one of the templates for a book, but i dont know where to insert it. if you would just look on the Plato page under the sub topic, "The State", you will see the problem. please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 02:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed.[1] PrimeHunter 02:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch, now how did you do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schipbob (talk • contribs) 02:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You have to put your references inside <ref>{{Cite web template here}}</ref> tags, without them, it does not work as inline refs. This is explained in the citation page here Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 02:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Look at the edit link I gave. A template use must end with }}. Citations are usually enclosed in <ref> ... </ref> (there are other methods). Then the software automatically places them in a reference section (if it exists) with links back and forth. See WP:CITE#Footnotes. PrimeHunter 02:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Another redirect (almost forgot)

Will you please redirect "Victor and Moritz" to Evil Twins (Crash Bandicoot) and put the article on Evil Twins (Crash Bandicoot) back as an article?

24.14.216.60 02:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New redirect 2

Will you please redirect "Jimmy Lin" to Jimmy Lin Chih Ying? 24.14.216.60 02:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Done. {{Helpme}} is for user talk pages. There is no reason to use it here. If you register then you can make redirects yourself. PrimeHunter 03:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Induction hob

Dear Sir(s),

I live in Trinidad & Tobago and I am interested in buying an induction hob. Our current here is 110/220 volt 60 Hz. In Holland I am able to buy a hob for Euro 700.00, but it is made for 50 Hz. Since a hob has no moving parts, is it possible to install such a hob here in Trinidad where we have 60 Hz and what are the consequencies? My e-mail address is fariesta@tstt.net.tt or henkklaverweide@yahoo.com – —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.108.11.253 (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Please try the Reference Desk. --Boricuæddie 03:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I wish to delete a photo

I wish to delete a photo that I took and posted. I originally posted it as "Impatiens pallida.jpg". Another user, who feels it's actually a different species renamed it "Impatiens capensis yellow form.jpg" [2] and re-uploaded it. While I disagree with his assessment (as do a botanist I was hiking with when I took the photo, and another online botanist friend of mine), I do not wish to belabor the taxon of this specimen and would prefer it simply be deleted from Wikipedia. How can I go about doing this? ++Arx Fortis 05:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I am going to give you my best answer, but I've never encountered this, so I am unsure if it's the correct answer. My apologies if I steer you wrong. I hope somebody will come along who knows definitively. It seems from the GNU license posted on the image page that you may not have the right to rescind your permission and request deletion of the file. The GNU license states that "Arx Fortis on the English Wikipedia project has granted permission to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License." Reading that license, it seems that the steps for modification have been properly followed, including explaining the change and crediting you with the original. While the license indicates you do not "assert or imply endorsement of any Modified Version," I think that you may have relinquished the right to object. Nevertheless, there is a deletion process on Commons where you might be able to explain your reasoning and have the image deleted. Here is the policy guiding deletion on commons, and here is the page to request it. I have no idea if such requests are common or how it might be received. Good luck, and, again, I hope somebody comes by who has a definitive answer for you. --Moonriddengirl 12:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Two different pages about Jönköping University

Hi!

I represent Jönköping University in this matter.

While checking that information about our University is correct on Wikipedia we discovered that there were two pages for it, one called Jönköping University - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping_university (that is the correct one) and one called University College of Jönköping - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_of_J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping (that is the faulty one).

Because our official english name is Jönköping University we would suggest that the page University College of Jönköping is removed and that Jönköping University links to the swedish page - http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6gskolan_i_J%C3%B6nk%C3%B6ping - and the swedish page links to the english one (Jönköping University).

For facts visit http://www.hj.se and http://www.hj.se/eng

If you have any questions in the matter, email me at magnus.palm@hs.hj.se .

Regards
Magnus Palm
Webmaster
Jönköping University
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.10.187.224 (talk) 06:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I made the "faulty" page into a redirect of the other one, and merged the information. I also inter-wikied. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

clearing search history

how to clear search history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.205.102 (talk) 08:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are using internet explorer 8, click tools on the menu followed by delete browsing history and the click on delete cookies and it should delete all of your wikipedia history --Sunderland06 19:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding an information box in an academic page

I would like to know how to add the information box that appears on the right hand side of most college and university pages. This box usually has an image of the school's seal and logo, as well as the motto, colors, establishment date, enrollment information, etc. I would like to add this for a school that does not currently have one. Thank you. 71.255.157.141 08:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Addition to request above

My apologies for not being more specific in my first submission. The page I would like to add the academic informational box to is for Franklin Pierce Law Center. They already have a page in Wikipedia, but I would like to expand on it. Thank you! 71.255.157.141 08:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You can use Template:Infobox School. Just add that template to the article and fill out the required fields. --Silver Edge 09:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You may also want to check out the other infoboxes in Category:Education infobox templates, as there may be a more specific one for this kind of institution. Since it appears to be a law school, Template:Infobox Law School would seem like an appropriate choice. --Pekaje 13:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hiding

Morning all. Just a query - is it possible to hide the section at the top of the page that says what the page is called? Eg this page I am on now says Editing Wikipedia:Help desk (comment). Thanks in advance, THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 08:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Add the following code to your monobook (User:The dark lord trombonator/monobook.js):

h1.firstHeading { 
   display: none; 
}

Then to finish, bypass your cache by pressing Control + Shift + R (in Firefox). Sebi _[talk] 09:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... about the monobook... what am I supposed to put in there, other that the code? I've just used whatever default setting is there until now. Oh, and I only want it on one page - does that make a difference? So, it becomes like the Main Page. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

ATTEMPTING TO ADD PHOTO, TEXT DISAPPEARS!! HELP!!

I was trying to add a photo to the Tiger Stadium (Detroit) page, and at least half the text disappeared. What the heck happened??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaBigMotor (talk • contribs) 11:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

• Fixed sort off. One picture does not a gallery make, so I'll revisit and see if it can go somewhere better. Can you give me some more info or a caption for the picture? The reason was that you entered a carriage return after the </ just before the word "gallery" - this broke the markup on the page. It's no big problem - thanks for advising the help desk! Pedro |  Chat  12:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

  Further I've moved the image up the page to be more relevant - I see it's from 1968 (ignore my request for a caption I saw your upload comments) so it belongs neatly in the history section. There is another photo there that looks similar but I'll let other editors who know the subject decide if we want one or two images. Please note that you will need to reslove the licence information (as per the automated message on your talk page) or the image will be deleted. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and again thank you for reporting the problem to the helpdesk. Pedro |  Chat  12:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

hanover, germany

hanover,germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.177.213 (talk) 12:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? :) --Moonriddengirl 12:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hanover, Germany!--VectorPotential^Talk 12:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Watchlist a page please

Andy Reid (footballer) had BLP vandalism last for a week before I happened by and reverted it. I'd hate to semi-protect it so can a responsible editor please watchlist the page? Thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xiner (talk • contribs) 13:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind watching it. Done. Leebo ^T/C 13:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

For your information WP:FOOTY have an article watchlist for situations just like yours. Wikipedia:WikiProject Football#Articles that need watching is the link. Woodym555 14:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. It's a low-activity page so hopefully it won't burden anyone. Cheers. Xiner (talk) 15:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I contributed to an entry or two, but my signature does not appear ---- Why?

I contributed to the entry on model theory, and some others, and I signed my entries. However, my signature (wikisbtr) does not appear. Why is that? --131.151.20.163 13:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Because we do not sign our entries. You sign remarks on this page, or on a talk page; but actual articles are a collective document, and are not signed. If you did leave a signature in one, it will have been removed by the next editor who spotted it. Nobody owns an article, or even a passage therein; "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly... by others, do not submit it". --Orange Mike 13:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Right now you are not logged in, and this is your first edit from this anonymous IP address. We can't look at the edits you've made if you don't tell us your previous account or IP address. There is no User:Wikisbtr. Can you tell us what your name was? Leebo ^T/C 13:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean your user name is Wikisbtr ? I can't see that you've created a user name like that [3]. To greate an account just go here. To sign your name on TALK pages (like this one) use for tildes ~~~~. As above, you don't need to sign edits to articles. Pedro |  Chat  13:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind that he may not be familiar with Wikipedia jargon, and was possibly referring to something else, like the history page, when using the word "signature". Leebo ^T/C 13:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, he was talking about the model theory page which he really did sign when contributing as User:WikiSBTR. As Orange Mike said, we don't sign articles. Leebo ^T/C 13:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That must have taken some digging - nice one! Pedro |  Chat  13:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Spam

How can I stop a spammer from usurping my e-mail address to request that that you send me a new login password for the English Wikipedia?

LROS 14:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean when you say "usurping". How could a spammer usurp your email? Leebo ^T/C 14:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is most likely that someone wants to use the username LROS. So, they keep clicking the "I forgot my password" link and it is sending emails to the current owner of the username LROS. Nobody is usurping anything. -- kainaw™ 14:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You can just ignore them, the password won't get changed unless you actually follow up on the procedure in the email. If you get tired of receiving the emails, you can use your email program's spam filtering mechanisms. Corvus cornix 16:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Biased Article

How to i flag us that an article may be biased and impatial? JP 14:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Possibly with {{pov}}, and if it appears that there is a conflict of interest, with {{coi}}. Less obvious cases might better be tagged with {{POV-check}}. You should probably leave a note on the talk page explaining your issue, unless it's extremely obvious. --Pekaje 14:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

• You can also use the tag {{balance}} at the bottom (or top) of the article. Just click to edit the page and insert the template. Pedro |  Chat  14:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

bgcolors

I want to change a background color on The Wire page to correspond with the Season 4 DVD box, I noticed they listed the colors as something to the effect of bgcolor="999999", so I wish to change it to a cardinal red type color and need the proper numbers to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conradege (talk • contribs) 14:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I usually go to this site for hexadecimal color codes. However, I'm not clear on what you wish to do. What part of the article do you want to make red? Leebo ^T/C 15:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The hex code you want for pure red is #FF0000 - however per Leebo I think you might want to discuss on the articles talk page or here before changing the background colour of info-boxes or similar. Pedro |  Chat  15:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry not appearing

Hey there, I submitted an entry yesterday for "Waffling" and it never got posted. Did it get deleted for some reason? I believe I followed the instructions properly.

Please let me know. Thanjs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.150.14.236 (talk) 15:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume you have a registered account with which you did this, but you are currently logged out. Can you specify your account name or the exact article name? Waffling is a redirect to Waffle (speech) and has been since before yesterday. Leebo ^T/C 15:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. You went to articles for creation and proposed a different Waffling article. It was rejected with the comment by User:Lucid "We cannot accept unsourced suggestions or sources that are not reliable per the verifiability policy. Please provide reputable, third-party sources with your suggestions. Third party sources are needed both to establish the verifiability of the submission as well as its notability. Leebo ^T/C 15:23, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Entry not appearing part 2

hey... no i'm not a registered user. i thought i had created a new article on waffling but then it didn't appear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.150.14.236 (talk) 15:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I expanded my comment above. You did not create a new article, you proposed an article to registered users, but it was rejected because you did not provide reliable sources to back up the claims you made in the proposal. Leebo ^T/C 15:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Homosexual

This is NOT a wierdo speaking. I am serious. I would like to know where I can find out information regarding WHY Homosexual, mainly men-gay men, (I am a 40 yr. old Nurse-Woman) seem to speak like they do. I am interested in finding out WHY most gay men SOUND the same and act in a feminine manner? I am curious, that's all. I am not a wierdo nor do I have any intentions other than finding out WHY? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.229.178.135 (talk) 16:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Wikipedia. The reference desk is for fact-based questions. Leebo ^T/C 16:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Most don't. As to your question, like Leebo said, you can get a more factual answer on the reference desk. -- Kesh 16:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't care whether or not you are a weirdo. It's pretty weird to be answering questions on the Help desk for free, so we can't very well be knocking people for being weird here. As to your question, you could start by reading Camp (style). It's difficult to know what "most" gay men do, but presumably the ones you will notice are those who behave differently than you expect men to behave, depending of course on how finely tuned your gaydar is. (Mine seems to be quite poor, or at least it was when a fairly close friend of several years surprised me with his admission. I had no idea, just as I seem nearly devoid of any sense of style.) --Teratornis 18:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Heres what appears to be a stupid question

(diff) (hist) . . Talk:Microsoft Excel‎; 16:16 . . (+168) . . The juggreserection (Talk | contribs)

the part in bold, what exactly is that?The juggreserection 16:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You added 168 bytes of content to the article in question. Leebo ^T/C 16:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

ahhh...i see.The juggreserection 16:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually I believe it is 168 characters, I think it was changed a while back. Prodego ^talk 22:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Malayalam

Is Wikepedia available in malayalam language? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.25.114 (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

here. :) --Moonriddengirl 16:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Requested Username - Successful or Not??

Hi, I requested a username on 5th Sept. I haven't had an email with a password, nor one that says I was unsuccessful.

Who do I go to / what link is provided for me to ask a question as to whether I have been given the requested username or not? Z 87.113.83.27 17:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I recently had a username change, one day I just couldn't log in. I logged in with the name I had requested and there it was. I'm sure it will be the same for you. ::Manors:: 17:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Which name did you request? Manors, he's not referring to a username change. If it was rejected, it would be listed at Wikipedia:Request an account with a rejection reason, probably not emailed to you. Leebo ^T/C 17:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Presuming that your e-mail server didn't snag a message from Wikipedia in some sort of spam protection, the first thing you might want to do is check the logs to see if there was a problem with the username you requested; as Leebo says, from September 5th, it should still be listed at Wikipedia:Request an account. You can also look at the creation logs here to see if the username appears to have been created. If it's there, you might be able to generate a new password at the login screen. Otherwise, your best option might be to try again. Good luck. --Moonriddengirl 17:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK the username has been created but I get the message "Login error: Incorrect password or confirmation code entered. Please try again." when I use the password that I entered on sign-up. I don't have an email with a confirmation code and it hasn't dropped out of my spam box! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.83.27 (talk) 17:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I have requested a new password "A new password has been sent to the e-mail address registered for "Zaphod B". Please log in again after you receive it". I've looked in my dump email account (specially created for Wiki registration) and NO EMAIL. So it looks like Wiki's system has the wrong email address?

OK - so what do I do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.83.27 (talk) 18:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any other options at Help:Logging in than to create a new account. :( --Moonriddengirl 18:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

vikipedi

tr:Vikipedi:Danışma masası —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kutu su (talk • contribs) 17:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a question? You seem to refer to the Turkish Wikipedia. Note: I inserted a leading  : character into your interlanguage link to stop it from placing an improper "in other languages" link on the Help desk page. --Teratornis 18:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I think I see what you were trying to do. You were trying to add a link to the Turkish Wikipedia Help desk to the "in other languages" sidebar on the English Wikipedia Help desk. (Please confirm my guess, as I cannot read Turkish.) If that is what you were trying to do, we can do that properly. --Teratornis 18:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that was the intent, as the "English" link on that page is to this Help desk. Leebo ^T/C 18:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I added the link: tr:Vikipedi:Danışma masası to the Wikipedia:Help desk/Header page. --Teratornis 18:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) --Kutu su 18:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Neah Bay Washington Page

Hello, I'm a Makah indian living in Neah Bay. I have been inspired to add to the pages for Neah Bay. I have ideas about the new memorial Fort for the veterens as well as the Makah Fisheries projects. I may need some help with submitting my updates or additions. I'm now getting some supportive help from my peers Thank you Ray Colby —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.206.232.197 (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for choosing to help out. :) When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. A good starting point for finding assistance might be on the talk pages of the articles you plan to improve, but many of the changes you'd like to make may be easier than you think. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to, especially if you want to create new pages). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. --Moonriddengirl 17:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

InfoBox for Kibbutz (Eng) is too restrictie - need to enhance

How can I update an issue in Wikipedia configuration? The template for kibbutzim (English), i.e., {{Infobox Kibbutz |, is limited and incomplete, it does not have many of the items in the Municipalities template, nor in the Kibbutz template (Hebrew). For instance, there is no means to add and define items such as pushpin map

|pushpin_map            = Israel
|pushpin_label_position = <!-- the position of the pushpin label: left, right, top, bottom, none -->
|pushpin_map_caption    =
|pushpin_mapsize        =135

or

|timezone               = 
|utc_offset             = 
|timezone_DST           = 
|utc_offset_DST         = 
|latd=32 |latm=59 |lats= |latNS=N
|longd=35 |longm=55 |longs= |longEW=E
|elevation_footnotes    =  <!--for references: use <ref> </ref> tags-->
|elevation_m            = 
|elevation_ft           =

or

|subdivision_type       = Country
|subdivision_name       = {{ISR}}
|subdivision_type1      = [[Districts of Israel|District]]
|subdivision_name1      = [[Tel Aviv District|Tel Aviv]]
|subdivision_type2      = Region
|subdivision_name2      = [[Gush Dan|Dan metropolitan region]]

How can Info Box options and behavior be modified? Atleast to equivalent of Hebrew page, if not Municipality Box

Many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by SZAgassi (talk • contribs)

While we are not supposed to edit other people's entries on this page, I added some <pre> tags to format your template code examples in the way you probably intended. What you are asking to do falls into the rather arcane world of template coding. I will look for some references for you. --Teratornis 18:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to this page: Template:Infobox_Kibbutz to edit the template. ::Manors:: 18:04, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

However, be careful if you are not familiar with template editing. One small mistake could break every page that uses {{Infobox Kibbutz}}. I don't read Hebrew so it may be difficult for me to look up the template(s) on the Hebrew Wikipedia that you compare to {{Infobox_Kibbutz}} on the English Wikipedia. Given that both Wikipedias use the same MediaWiki software, I would imagine the template coding should be similar. Presumably, you could just copy the wikitext of a template from the Hebrew Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia, and translate all the field names and values from Hebrew to English. I would guess the MediaWiki markup codes should be the same in both languages (but I don't know that for a fact). If you are new to template programming you may not understand what I'm talking about, in which case your best bet might be to visit WikiProject Israel and ask if ayone there knows Hebrew, English, and MediaWiki template coding. --Teratornis 18:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Content Question

I understand that most people will probably already know the answer to this, but I don't. I was viewing the page on wet t-shirt contests and there was an image of a woman in a wet t-shirt. Are wet t-shirt photos considered pornographic or age-restricted? No one I've asked has been able to answer the question.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.76.128.71 (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This may be a question for the Reference desk, however note that views and laws regarding pornography and obscenity vary widely by location. --Moonriddengirl 18:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not really a question that Wikipedia would be concerned with. What is pornographic or offensive may differ based on personal feelings or morals. In the case of that article, the image accurately depicts a wet t-shirt contest, so it is encyclopedically appropriate. Wikipedia is not censored, so you may occasionally find material that would be restricted on other sites if it is of encyclopedic use here. For instance, pages related to human anatomy are not censored, though such images would usually be restricted. If you want to know if there is an official distinction related to pornography standards, maybe the reference desk users could help. Leebo ^T/C 18:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'll answer it. The article is Wet T-shirt contest, and the picture under discussion is Image:Wet T-shirt.PNG. I don't know if I'd consider that picture pornographic because it does not show naked skin, though I do find it objectionable according to my religious standards. Notwithstanding, it is permitted on Wikipedia because Wikipedia is not censored. Shalom ^Hello 18:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I decided it was my solemn civic duty as a selfless Wikipedian to review the photograph in question. I regret to report that after extensive scrutiny I cannot decide whether it is pornographic. However, I think I am falling in love. Does the woman in the photo like nerds? --Teratornis 05:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

All seriousness aside, if you want a version of Wikipedia suitable for children, rather than a version which might inspire the production of more children, see:

• Wikipedia:Pushing to 1.0#Publishing history
• 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection
• 2007 Wikipedia Selection for Schools —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teratornis (talk • contribs) 06:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Broken template?

The {{selfref}} template seems to be broken. It just produces {{{1}}}. Or am I not using it correctly? Are we supposed to add parameters? If so, they should be documented at Wikipedia:Template messages/General.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The usage and documentation is at Template:Selfref. Leebo ^T/C 18:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

But basically the documentation says that, yes you need a parameter - the self reference to be avoided. For instance this

{{selfref|The Wikipedia Help Desk [[Wikipedia:Help desk]]}}

includes this page's link, but the selfref template keeps it from being rendered as one. Instead it renders like this: Alfrodull 18:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:Help desk link renders as bold and non-functional because we're on the Help desk page. You can't link to the page from here. Leebo ^T/C 19:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Article marked for deletion?

IS the article for Interactive Intelligence marked for deletion? We have complied with the guidelines - what else can we do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Interactive Intelligence (talk • contribs) 19:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not currently marked for deletion. It is, however, tagged with a notice saying that it is written like an advertisement. I'd suggest you read the following policies: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Weasel words, and Wikipedia:Spam. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 19:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) We've discussed this. I have deleted the article because it was still advertising. I informed you that it is not appropriate to write an encyclopedia article about your own company. Let uninvolved editors write it if you are notable. Leebo ^T/C 19:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

So should I not have created an account and just submitted my information for posting by an unbiased individual. Please explain I find this very confusing. --209.43.1.25 19:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want a suggestion, I would recommend that you propose Interactive Intelligence at articles for creation. Please do not concern yourselves (the company) with writing the article. That is not an appropriate means of writing an encyclopedia article. Other companies do not write their own articles (and when they do, the articles are deleted). Leebo ^T/C 19:50, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles for creation is for unregistered, anonymous editors. :) Registered users might want to go through

Wikipedia:Requested articles. --Moonriddengirl 20:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, that account shouldn't be used anyway. It's a username violation, but I didn't block it due to the communication here. Leebo ^T/C 20:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I get our account canceled? --209.43.1.25 18:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

user talk: Sunderland06

Am i allowed to delete warnings from my own talk page? --Sunderland06 19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. See Wikipedia:User page#Removal of warnings. --Moonriddengirl 19:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

physical geography

–what is the latitude of the vertical direct rays of the sun —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.239.119 (talk) 20:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for help with using Wikipedia. This looks like a question for the reference desk. Leebo ^T/C 20:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The sun can only be directly overhead if your latitude puts you somewhere between the tropic of Cancer and the tropic of Capricorn. The particular day(s) of the year when the sun becomes directly vertical at zenith would depend on your latitude. See: Circle of latitude#Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn. --Teratornis 23:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Listing our firm

I have gone through the help, and it is not clear on how to list our company here.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Axisgroup (talk • contribs) 20:09, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If I were you, I'd take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Creating a page for your own company is not allowed. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 20:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If your company meets notability guidelines, you might want to post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles. --Moonriddengirl 20:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

From your contribs, it looks like you already at least have an external link at Facade. Alfrodull 21:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I "do not have permission" to view main page source, but I can anyway

I guess I don't need "help," really, but I don't know where else to put this.

When I click on "view source" (I'm not an admin) on the main page, it says:

You do not have permission to do that, for the following reasons:

• This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option enabled:

Main Page/1

Main Page/2

[etc.]

Then is the standard "This page is either protected or semi-protected" spiel, and then is, as usual, the main page's source code in an uneditable gray text box! --zenohockey 21:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

You don't have permission to edit the Main Page. By clicking on "view source", you essentially clicked what would be the "edit" tab in unprotected pages. Hence, MediaWiki is telling you that you don't have permission to do that, with "that" being editing the page. You do have permission to see any page's source, though. That said, the wording is quite clumsy. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:51, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Blanked for now, is it used for anything useful? or should it just stay gone? Prodego ^talk 21:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

That message is MediaWiki:Permissionserrorstext, which appears to be a general message. I wouldn't delete it unless I knew that it wasn't used for anything else. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I am operating under the principle that there is always going to be a 'because' message below it anyway, so it is redundant under any situation. Prodego ^talk 22:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

?

Uh, what's "Uncyclopedia?" That must be a pun on "Encyclopedia." More importantly, it sounds like a goofy word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

See Uncyclopedia. Corvus cornix 22:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not only a goofy word but a goofy wiki. For example, instead of a Village pump as we have on Wikipedia, they have a Village dump. Good silly fun. --Teratornis 22:57, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

New article

Will you let me know when the article for Risa Hayamizu is ready? I just started that article and I'm hoping for it to be accepted.

24.14.216.60 21:59, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting BORED!

When are you going to have the article for Risa Hayamizu ready?!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk • contribs)

Patience, young padawan. ^_^ —[[Animum | talk]] 22:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done. --Boricuæddie 22:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

human anatomy&physiology

What does the term mean deep? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.239.251 (talk) 22:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Try the Reference Desk. --Boricuæddie 22:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

More on Risa

Will you make a redirect for Risa Hayamizu and call it "Lisa Hayamizu" for me, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 22:25, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done. --Boricuæddie 22:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

apology

I'm sorry for accidentally vandalizing wikipedia. Can you forgive me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 22:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

For a price. --Teratornis 23:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

According to m:Conflicting Wikipedia philosophies#Rehabilism we should forgive you if you henceforth strive to edit constructively. The fact that Wikipedia deliberately encourages vandalism by allowing anyone to edit reflects a deep faith in the essential goodness of human nature. Or perhaps a deep faith in the power of guilt to motivate former vandals to go straight. Or maybe it reflects nothing in particular. --Teratornis 23:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

A deep faith in the power of WP:RCP and WP:BLOCK? -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 23:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I forgive you. Go forth and sin no more. For penance, you must do the following:

• create a user name for yourself:
• do not make any anonymous edits: log in first.
• go to Wikipedia:Community Portal and check out the "help out" section.
• make at least five constructive edits. even trivial spelling corrections count.

If you are a young editor (12 years old or less), then you are an especially valuable resource. You should read the lead paragraph of twenty random articles. If you cannot understand the lead paragraph then the article needs to be improved: edit the article's discussion page to add a comment that the lead section cannot be understood by a 12-year-old.

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please help us. We need you. -Arch dude 02:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you cannot understand what "lead paragraph" means, see: WP:LEAD. Also, I think Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak did some rambunctious things in their days of misspent youth. There wasn't any Wikipedia to vandalize back then, I think they sent prank messages by telegraph or was it smoke signals. Historical inaccuracies aside, you'd better shape up because you wouldn't want to end up like those guys. --Teratornis 05:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright tag

How do we add a copyright tag to an image which my Allenstone uploaded? I created the image and I want to grant unlimited usage to any and all viewers. My wife took the picture, titled BRANFORD MARSALIS AND RAY REACH 2.JPG. Anyone may use it in any way they wish.

Thank you,

<removed>

Please answer me at: <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allenstone (talk • contribs) 23:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to 'grant unlimited usage to any and all viewers' it sounds like Public domain is the license you want. Simply copy and paste the following code into the image description page: {{PD-user|Allenstone}}. You will also be able to remove the code which says {{di-no license}}. Next time, please add a copyright tag to images when you upload them. Wikipedia:Upload will help you choose the correct tag before you upload the image. Also, I have removed your address and e-mail from this page to protect your privacy. next time, please sign your messages with four tildes, like ~~~~. This will automatically insert a signature so we can tell who posted the message. Thanks. Raven4x4x 02:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I've added a description to the image description page at Image:Branford and Ray.JPG, since that appears to be the version used in the article on Ray Reach. Feel free to correct any part of it. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 14:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

can't add proper citations because most of the article has been removed for lack of citations!

Article: Buddy Sheffield. This is a living person bio. I have cites and references but don't know how to add them and cannot access the full article. Apparently it's been taken down for lack of cites and references. You see the problem. Please advise. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Libbylibbylibby (talk • contribs) 23:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

It's still there in the history. You can access and edit older versions of the page (directions behind bluelink), but be sure not to leave in material that isn't properly sourced with third party verification. With biographies of living people, when in doubt, leave it out. :) --Moonriddengirl 23:28, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

September 8

Article deleted

I submitted an article that was factually correct and it has been deleted. How do I get the article put back on to wikipedia? The article concerned a man named John Kimble. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleReddog (talk • contribs) 01:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The article was probably not notable, he isn't even on the first links on google except the, now deleted, article by you, see [4]. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

There was also consensus to delete the article because of his lack of notability, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Kimble. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :This article has been deleted several times and has now ben protected to prevent its recreation. The discussion that led to its deletion can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Kimble. The [logs show] that it has been deleted and protected by User:Sandahl. If you have reason to believe that he conforms to the Notability guidelines then contact the administrator to see whether he thinks he should be recreated. Woodym555 01:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Jude Stringfellow

I am a book editor for a company where author Jude Stringfellow has published three books. I am trying to make her a Wikipedia page, but I'm not sure I'm doing it correctly. First of all, I signed up Stringfellow rather than myself not realizing that they wanted MY address, and she accepted the invitation. I didn't know I was making her a page at the time. So it is under jstringfellow. I would like that fixed so she is not the one making the page.

I wish to add her to your site. She is an author and national key-note speaker. I wish to do this correctly. Please go to the area and see if I am doing it correctly. If I am, please post it. I would also like to add her biography sections such as her date of birth, things like that, but don't know how. Thanks. You can write me at: email redacted —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jstringfellow (talk • contribs) 01:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

As you state you are an editor in the company that publishes her, you should read our conflict of interest guidelines. As for writing a biography on her, be sure she satisfies our notability policy and guidelines on biographies of living persons.

Someone else may be able to explain how to get the account name changed, or it may be better to just create a new account of your own. -- 68.156.149.62 12:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to cite third-party references for everything you've said in the article. Nothing there is backed up by sources, and it sounds like a press release. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 00:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

US Petrochemical

I created a page for US Petrochemical and it was deleted twice.

I listed it in the name of Houston Companies. It was not spam and it was in the same category of the other companies listed amongst Houston Companies. If this was spam why is Wikipidia not deleting the other companies? And as a Energy Trading Company it had more relevance to the Houston economy exporting millions of dollars of products from refineries in Texas and creating jobs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1hotrod (talk • contribs) 02:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see Why was my page deleted?.-- 68.156.149.62 12:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking into it further, the article was first deleted as spam, then deleted again with the note: Speedy deleted per (CSD a7), was an article about a company or corporation that didn't assert the importance or significance of its subject. This means your article did not show how the company satisfies our notability policy, more specifically the guidelines at WP:CORP. -- 68.156.149.62 12:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

research

Im trying to find who to ask about why my additions to a page keep getting deleted though it is factual and documented information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaipate (talk • contribs) 03:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume you mean the addition of Jai Pate to September 15. The page is intended for people considered notable by Wikipedia. There are only 15 Google hits on "Jai Pate".[5] See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest before making edits about yourself. PrimeHunter 03:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

In general, when adding people to a list such as that, it's expected that they have existing articles on Wikipedia. Please also make sure that the person you are adding is notable and the the information you are adding is confirmed with reliable sources. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:31, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

That's funny, why didn't that get an edit conflict? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

On a side note, if you want to be wished a happy birthday on your birthday by fellow editors, I'd suggest you take a look at the Birthday Committee's page and add yourself to their calendar. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 03:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding rows to existent tables

How do you add a row to an already existent table? (For example, if I want to add an episode to the episode guide of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, how do I do it. I've been using the keyboard codes and shortcuts the exact same way they are in the previous rows, but it gets messed up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crocketmeow (talk • contribs) 03:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You use:
|-
|
to do what you want, adding the content after the "|" Prodego ^talk 03:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Problem getting latest version of uploaded JPG to load in articles

I have been creating charts for various pages related to polling data for the upcoming U.S. Presidential election. For example, see: Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2008#First_Six_Republican_Primaries_and_Caucuses.2C_plus_California_and_New_York. Right now, using my Firefox browser, for Iowa and South Carolina, a previous version of the image appears in the article, but when you click into the images themselves, they clearly reflect the most recent upload. Is anyone else able to reproduce this problem on their browser? I tried clearing my cache and refreshing the page several times. --Robapalooza 05:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Check it now. I purged the servers and I think it's working now. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 06:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I got around the problem by changing 700px to 701px for each image, but that's a lot more work than I should have to do to get it to recognize a change to an image. I appreciate the purge, but I don't think that fixed it. So that an example still exists, I will revert the above link back to 700px to show an example.--Robapalooza 06:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think your problem may be your browser cache. I've had that happen numerous times, and it can be quite frustrating. Try the instructions here (if this is a regular problem, this extension may come in handy). In very rare cases it can be almost impossible to purge an image thumbnail cache from the Wikimedia servers, but I have found that a null edit on the image description page can do the trick. --Pekaje 09:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I've tried clearing the cache, making the cache 0MB, purging the page using ?action=purge, loading in a different browser, a dummy edit and a null edit and nothing seems to be updating the image. Is anyone else having the same problem? That is, when _you_ load the page, do you see the pink line showing data for Undecided voters? --Robapalooza 01:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it for at least one of them. I actually had to purge the thumbnail itself. In Firefox you can do this by right-clicking the image, selecting "View Image", and appending ?action=purge to the thumbnail cache URL. Tedious, but very occasionally necessary. --Pekaje 13:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Pictures on this site is not being able to see on webpages

sir,

The pictures on webpage is not visible

please reply me why is it so

07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)07:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)Udaymani

I'm seeing pictures fine. What problem are you having? KTC 07:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

it may be because of lots of things, say if you are using shared or networked computers were the administrator has blocked images in wikipedia, or you might have blocked them yourself by right clicking on an image and choosing "block images from wikipedia.org", however I am not aware of the solution, try another computer maybe?, check if any who runs your pc hasn't blocked images on wikipedia?.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 08:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit Conflict on article

I was looking at recent changes and this person started editing Visual kei, they made big changes which deleted all the references. I reverted back, but they don't agree, so i'd like to get someone else to look at this please. Thanks. Phgao 08:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have dealt have with it. see this diff:[6] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kerotan (talk • contribs) 08:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Phgao 08:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, they will not stop. I'm not sure what to do. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visual_kei&diff=156447178&oldid=156445997 Phgao 08:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

SUSTAINABLE LOGGING

I am looking for some peer reviewed articles on sustainable tropical forest logging 2007 , and am unable to find any, could you help please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.233.136 (talk) 09:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Google Books

How do we feel about adding Google Books links to footnotes? See this edit, for example. It looks to be done in good faith, and I can see it might be useful: but presumably it should be something we do consistently across Wikipedia or not at all. That's why I'm asking for a second opinion here at the help desk rather than seeking a more local consensus on the article's talk page. Anyone have any thoughts? AndyJones 09:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems incredibly helpful to me. Kappa 11:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. I won't touch it, and we'll see what others make of it. AndyJones 12:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

• It's useful. I wouldn't remove it. The reason it's not being consistently done, is because other editors usually have a physical book on hand when writing their articles. Adding a Google Books reference doesn't come to mind. Also, in copyrighted works, the available pages in Google Books can be restricted. In those cases links can't really be added. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Now I'm just lost

OK, so I was instructed to paste some kind of code into my monobook to get the title of each page NOT showing up. Following instructions at WP:MONOBOOK, I attempted but did not succeed. This is probably a good thing, as I do not want the title of all pages to go away, just one particular one (a user subpage of mine). I am attempting to recreate the Main Page, and it would be nice if we could make the title go away. Can anyone help me with this? Heck, is this even the right place? THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 10:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think your best bet to get a definitive answer is to ask at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical).--Fuhghettaboutit 14:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories

Can someone show me how to create a category or give me a link to a page which shows how? --Thanks DerRichter 11:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

One way is this: add the category tag to a page, e.g. put the tag [[Category:Green stuff]] in the page Grass. Then you will see a red link to the category at the bottom of Grass. Click on the red link and it will allow you to create the category, e.g. you might type "This category contains green stuff" and put it in [[Category:Stuff by color]]. Kappa 11:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Categorization FAQ. Kappa 11:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

war

why are showing something about how poeple died from a mistake about to much fuil will guss what I bet right now some man is fight for every one's right to be free and, your talking about that men that just died becouse of to much fuil.Will men die for our fredom. How would you Like it if you would have died for our fredom and now body carse becouse, men died from to much fuil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.181.15 (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a page for questions about how to use Wikipedia, not a soapbox. -- 68.156.149.62 12:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading pictures

Can I upload a picture onto Wikipedia just to use it in another site or does it have to be for an article? NFreak007 13:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not image hosting service, images should be used in articles, even if these articles are user pages. try photobucket.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 13:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Alternatively, provided the images have some potential use, and aren't just snaps you took of friends at a party, for example, you may wish to upload them at Wikimedia Commons. Make sure to be clear about your choice of licence, and add it to any categories you believe to be relevant. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 14:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

• You can also use Flickr. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted Page

After spending 3 hours making a page on Pi-Con, the largest sci-fi con in my area, I find that it has been completely deleted without a trace. There was some notice about non-notability, which is ridiculous. Pi-Con is the largest convention in the area! How can it be non-notable? I did what it said with the hold on tag and the explanation on the talk page, but still poof, three hours of work gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireheart (talk • contribs) 14:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you create the page under a different username? Because your account has never edited an article named Pi-Con. -- 68.156.149.62 14:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted pages do not appear on that list. If you look at User talk:Fireheart, you'll see the notice of speedy placed on it. :) --Moonriddengirl 14:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

D'oh. I never noticed that deleted pages are gone from contributions. Thanks! -- 68.156.149.62 15:24, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. Confused me the first time I ran into it. :D --Moonriddengirl 15:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Having put many an hour into Wikipedia projects myself, I can well imagine how frustrating that must be. :( I'll note that an article on Pi-Con has been deleted twice, today and several months ago. The deletion log for today indicates there was no assertion of notability made within the article. I can't access the text, so I don't know if you made an assertion of notability that qualifies per the guideline on notability (organizations and companies). If you feel like trying again, maybe you'd like to seek feedback at the drawing board before posting it? Good luck. --Moonriddengirl 14:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Fireheart, would you like me to restore the article to your userspace where we can help you work on it until it's ready to go to the encyclopedia? Leebo ^T/C 15:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a nice offer. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess Fireheart would want that anyway... It's at User:Fireheart/Pi-con. Leebo ^T/C 15:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles must assert notability outside your "area". A local coffee bar may be the biggest in my area but it has no significance outside it. Wikipedia is not a local directory. Asserting notability with third-party sources is the best way to keep your article from being deleted. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 00:39, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

request to block/delete a user account

Hi,

I would like to request the immediate cancellation/deletion of the account "dyjodee" and, if possible, the reversal of any edits that were made using this account. This account was created by my 10-year-old nephew, Stephen, without my knowledge. With it, he has spoofed my identity on this site and has even put up my personal information. While some of the updates that he has made may be factual, like any child, he has an overactive imagination and often makes up stories and writes them on this site as facts.

I sincerely apologize to you and to your site visitors for any inconvenience this may have caused. I'm hoping for your prompt action on this matter.

Thanks and best regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dyjodee (talk • contribs) 14:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You signed using that account. Is this a joke? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 14:55, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure any of the inappropriate content has already been handled, so there is nothing else to do. Accounts are not deleted. Leebo ^T/C 15:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Note that the questioner explicitly states that it was this account. The thrust is that the personal information at User:Dyjodee is not about the user who created the account, but their aunt. To Dyjodee, while we can't delete the edits to Mainspace articles (provided they weren't offensive or revealed personal information) due to the terms of the GFDL, you can ask an admin to delete the account's Userpage by placing {{db-user}} on User:Dyjodee, which will remove your personal details from view. The account will remain, but if you (for example) scramble the password in Special:Preferences, your nephew will be unable to use the account in future. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 15:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Gone ahead and deleted the Userpage, and left a note on the User's talk page about possible further steps. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 15:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

To Jeffrey, no this is not a joke. I chanced upon this page while surfing and asked for the password from my nephew, since I don't have an account myself. Thanks GeeJo and Leebo for the info. I'll do as you suggested and scramble the password.

wikitable sort

Why are only the first 3 columns sorting at List of Chicago Marathon Winners?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem appears to be the following line in the table:

|-
| 1987 || colspan=3|ran as half marathon || colspan=3|No Marathon

When I deleted that line in the table and previewed it, all the table columns became sortable. I guess the table sorting code does not deal gracefully with colspan modifiers. This might constitute a bug worth reporting, or perhaps someone already reported it, in case anyone cares to check. --Teratornis 15:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I should probably point out that I did not save my edits to the table after I previewed the effect of deleting that line. The table, and its sorting problem, remain as before. --Teratornis 16:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will get to it during the week.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Japanese characters

Where's the page on Wikipedia to request that an article have Japanese characters added? The article in question is Kosei Ono. Thanks in advance, and please reply on my talk page. --Montchav 15:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See the entries in the Editor's index under the "Japan/Japanese" heading just below WP:EIW#J. --Teratornis 16:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I contribute to Wikiquote?

I wish to contibute to Wikiquote for the article about the film Tears of the Sun. How do I do this?Rickhavoc1 17:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to *English Wikiquote, open an account and have fun.--Thw1309 17:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

can someone fix the edouard manet page for me??

Something is going wrong with my browser (at least that's what I'm assuming is happening), and it is cutting off the text of wikipedia articles when i open them with the edit button. I keep accidentally deleting huge chunks of teh Édouard Manet article and now I can't put it back because I can't open the entire article in the edit function to revert it. I'm at a public computer so I don't really care about troubleshooting, but I do want to undo the damage I've done. Calliopejen1 17:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Ideally, could you put it back to the 17:08 version? :) Calliopejen1 17:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

 Done [7] by Etacar11 (talk · contribs). Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 17:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Help

hello i need some help please im at college and have been set and assignment i dont need help finding the information but i have found the page i need within this site and i need to write who maintains the website but were abouts do i find this information on the website please could you email back to <email removed for security>

thanks you chelsey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.24.69 (talk) 18:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation, but the foundation does not have an active role in writing the articles - the act of writing and updating the articles is left to the users of the site. If you have a question about the article, you can leave a comment on the article's talk page, which you can get to by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the article. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to the article you're wanting to cite. On the left hand side of the page is a link that says Cite this article. Click on that link and you'll get a page with all the information you need to properly cite the article. Note, however, that most teachers will not accept Wikipedia as a source. You're better off looking at the References section on the article and citing from those. -- 68.156.149.62 18:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

My Photos / Would like to Contribute

I would like to contribute some of my own photographs to Wikipedia to enhance an article. How do I this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.107.221 (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to the Wikimedia Commons, create an account, and upload them there. You can then access them using the same syntax as images on Wikipedia: [[Image:TITLE]]. --Max Talk (+) 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Make sure to upload them under an appropriate licence, or the image may well be deleted shortly after you upload it. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 00:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

redirected to malicious website

just a few minutes ago i was looking at the info on vanessa hudgens and was redirected to a winvirusscan site which tried to download crap onto my computer. what pracctices are in place to protect against these attacks? i think the info on vanessa hudgens needs to be disinfected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwrogers77 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

What article exactly were you on, this one? Were you on Wikipedia or a mirror site, or did you click on a link at the bottom of the page or a reference? Also, was the redirect inside the window, or was it your own virus scan software downloading an update as virus scan software does occasionally? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 20:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The only way that could happen is if you clicked on an external link that had the malicious material. It wouldn't happen while you viewed the Wikipedia page unless you already have some kind of virus that would do that. When clicking on external links, you should be aware that they are not under Wikipedia's control. Leebo ^T/C 20:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

dang...yes, it was that one. I was on Wikipedia, and i think it was indeed an external link. i guess it was another reminder to be extra careful when i'm on the internet. no harm done, at least my firewall and security suite software didn't pick anything up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwrogers77 (talk • contribs) 14:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with tables

Can someone help me with this: User:Hdt83/Sandbox. I want to move the user boxes to the right of the userpage section and its baffling me why its not working properly. Thanks in advance. --Hdt83 ^Chat 21:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Tamao Satō (related) questions

About new article

Will you please let me know when he article on Tamao Satō is ready, that is, if it is accepted, of course?

24.14.216.60 19:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Pardon me if this sounds blunt, but there's nothing stopping you from checking, correct? It's not really the help desk's job to watch pages for you and tell you what happens. Also, I see you constantly requesting for help desk users to create redirects or check on your requested articles; Why don't you create an account? Then you can do all of this without coming to otherss for help. Leebo ^T/C 19:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

About new article again

I had put sources on the article I started. Why did you decline it anyway? 24.14.216.60 20:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not use the {{helpme}} template here, that is for use on your talk page. Your article was declined, as explained in the submission entry, because it did not have reliable, third party sources. Sources such as personal websites or fansites/blogs are not generally considered reliable, and are not third-party sources. Please review the above guideline to fully understand this. Thanks, ^Ariel♥Gold 20:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Need help

I can't seem to creat an article on Tamao Satō without it being declined. Can someone help me?

Please do not use the {{helpme}} template here, that is for use on your talk page. Your article was declined, as explained in the submission entry, because it did not have reliable, third party sources. Sources such as personal websites or fansites/blogs are not generally considered reliable, and are not third-party sources. Please review the above guideline to fully understand this. Additionally, please review the notability requirements for biographies. Thanks, ^Ariel♥Gold 20:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous user, if you propose the Tamao Sato article again after it has been declined with the same submission, you may be blocked for a short period. Your actions are disruptive; please read what people are telling you. Leebo ^T/C 21:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting angry

I've been trying to creat an article on Tamao Satō, and it has been declined twice, now. You probably are refusing to accept even though it has a source, right?! RIGHT?!

If it is not accepted this time, I'm going to get angry! 24.14.216.60 21:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It's actually been declined 3 times. Twice is too many anyway. It doesn't have a reliable source. Anime News Network is not enough to sustain an article on its own. Leebo ^T/C 21:39, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You can get angry all you like, but it's not affecting the fact that no reliable, third party source have been provided with the entries everytime it's been submitted. Read why it's been declined, address the problem, then submit it again. Not submitting the same thing every single time, and wondering why it keep getting declined. KTC 21:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of

Speaking of being blocked for a short period, that probably means I'll be blocked from editing temporarily, right?

24.14.216.60 21:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, read why it's being rejected and talk to the user who rejected it. We here at the Help desk can't help with that, it's not our collective decision. Leebo ^T/C 21:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Explainations for trying to create article

I've been trying to create an article on Tamao Satō, because I only want to support Wikipedia. Why do you keep rejecting it? :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please stop creating new threads for the same discussion. You've been told why it was rejected. Because you provided one source, Anime News Network, which is not reliable enough to sustain a whole article. Leebo ^T/C 21:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting upset

Well, if you're not going to accept my article, then I guess I won't be creating articles anymore! But if there are like a million articles being vandalized, don't come crying to me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It is being rejected because it dosen't have enough reliable sources. Anime News Network is not enough to establish notability. More reliable 3rd party sources are needed to establish notability. --Hdt83 ^Chat 21:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no reason to get upset. Listen to us and talk. Use the existing discussion instead of starting a whole new thread. Leebo ^T/C 21:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

.......

I guess someone else will have to create the article Tamao Sato for me. It is probably no use if I tried to crate it, because I found some info on her website, too, and if you won't accept Anime News Network as being the only source, fine! Because it said to include at least 1 source! Maybe you don't want me creating articles anymore!

If that's true, then fine! But don't yell at me if you end up having a bankrupt because of little support!

24.14.216.60 21:46, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

We do want you to create articles, but Wikipedia will not go bankrupt from not having new articles. Wikipedia receives money from fundraising, not directly from article creation. Leebo ^T/C 21:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia is not the only wiki you should consider. If you read and write Japanese, see if the Japanese Wikipedia wants the article, or already has one on this topic. If the Japanese Wikipedia has such an article, with adequate sources and so on, you could translate it to the English Wikipedia. If you do not speak Japanese, try another wiki that is not part of the Wikimedia Foundation. See: wikiindex:Category:Anime; for example, you could try Anime Wiki. Many wikis that specialize in a particular topic accept articles in their topic area with fewer hassles than you get on Wikipedia. --Teratornis 22:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a question

Does the Internet Movie Database count as a third-party reliable source? I'm not very sure whether or not it is, because I'm trying to start the article again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 21:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The IMDB is alright, but it's not entirely reliable. More sources would be needed than just ANN and IMDB. Sorry if this is frustrating, but new articles should be held to high standards too. Leebo ^T/C 21:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

It should also be noted that some of the content on IMDB can be edited by anyone once they create an account. AngelOfSadness talk 21:57, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The same is true of ANN, which is why it's also not considered reliable for some things. News articles are different from the fan-edited encyclopedia pages. It would be like using Wikipedia as a source. Leebo ^T/C 21:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned, since anyone can edit IMDB, they do tend to (quite often) add false/unsubstantiated/unverifiable information to IMDB. Because Wikipedia is based on verifiable information, IMDB is not considered a WP:RS, however, Wikipedia has a template to add an actor/film's entry from IMDB to the external links. The template is: *{{imdb name | id=number | name=First Last}} (You must go to IMDB and look up the item's ID number yourself). Hope that helps ^Ariel♥Gold

TVRAGE

Is TVrage a reliable source? Can you list all of the reliable third-party sources? Please? 24.14.216.60 22:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure about TVrage, but listing all reliable third-party sources would be impossible. That list would include just about every newspaper and online news organization. I recommend you read Wikipedia:Reliable sources if you want info on what makes something a reliable source. Leebo ^T/C 22:07, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Check out the many links in the Editor's index under: WP:EIW#Source. This one looks interesting, but not necessarily relevant to the question:

• Top 500 external websites to which Wikipedia links

--Teratornis 22:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

More to say

I try not to do anything wrong, and I want to help you.

24.14.216.60 22:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:WWMPD#If all else fails, try another wiki. As I mentioned above, please see: wikiindex:Category:Anime; for example, you could try Anime Wiki. Many wikis that specialize in a particular topic accept articles in their topic area with fewer hassles than you get on Wikipedia. You can develop your anime articles on Anime Wiki, probably with less fear that they will be deleted while you are still working on them. Later you can ask us to look at them over there, and we can tell you when they are ready to meet Wikipedia's requirements. Everybody wins. Anime Wiki runs on the same MediaWiki software as Wikipedia, so you only have to learn one wikitext markup language. --Teratornis 22:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you had an account, which I've been encouraging you to do this whole time, you could create articles yourself in your userspace and move them to the encyclopedia when they're ready. You haven't said why you won't create an account though. Leebo ^T/C 22:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Should I create Tamao Sato article another day? I mean, those were the only sources I could find. 24.14.216.60 22:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have an idea! How about a wiki user creates Tamao Sato for me? :) 24.14.216.60 23:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Please, respond by clicking the [edit] link next to "More to say". Why dont' you want to create an account? Leebo ^T/C 23:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

You might have to wait until you have reliable third party sources for those sources. A lot of the content with those sources was made by fans so it's a mixture of fact, fiction, and rumours(original research if you will). Creating the article tomorrow(let's say) will be pointless if you don't have reliable third party sources. AngelOfSadness talk 23:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about this Tamao Sato? As you can see, DramaWiki already has a brief article about her. Why don't you make an account on DramaWiki and edit her article there? Then we can see it and advise you on what it would need to meet Wikipedia's standards. --Teratornis 23:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

I couldn't find any reliable cources for Tamao Satou, so someone else will have to create the article for me either way.

24.14.216.60 23:18, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd encourage you to review the notability guideline for people. Most of the time, if an actress is notable enough, there will be at least a few news articles, reports, etc., about the person. Unfortunately, not all actresses would fit into Wikipedia's notability guideline, and as such, may not be appropriate for Wikipedia. However, there are several other "wiki" type sites given to you above that you can create an account on and create an article about her there. (Note that I have no idea how notable this Japanese actress is, I'm merely speaking generally.) Cheers! ^Ariel♥Gold 23:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is getting a little irritating, so I'm just going to help do the research instead of telling this person to do it with reliable sources. This is all I've found so far:

• Tamao Sato interview in Metropolis magazine

Leebo ^T/C 23:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Irritating? After only a dozen rehashes? The Google test results depend on the spelling:

• google:Tamao Satou 857 for Tamao Satou
• google:Tamao Sato 57,800 for Tamao Sato

Are we discussing Tamao Satou or Tamao Sato? Are these two different people, or two spellings of the same person? (A Japanese name may not have a distinct English counterpart for all I know.) The latter appears to be much more notable. One would think an actress with 57,800 Google hits would be notable enough for an article here. --Teratornis 23:42, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

They're the same person. The correct spelling for romanization would be Tamao Satō. Leebo ^T/C 23:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. I could have figured it out by looking at the photograph of "Tamao Sato" in the Tamao Sato interview in Metropolis magazine. (The various articles suggest she is a no-talent actress who makes it on her looks and willingness to work a lot. And she seems to be the actress most hated by Japanese women. She sounds like a Japanese version of Jessica Simpson.) She seems to be notable enough in Japan but is probably not known to many English speakers, since an actor probably needs some talent to go international. I would imagine she has an article on the Japanese Wikipedia already, but I have no idea how to search for her article there. --Teratornis 00:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Notability is not really bound by nationality. If she's notable enough for the Japanese Wikipedia, where she does in fact have an article ja:さとう珠緒, then she's notable enough for an article here. Leebo ^T/C 00:08, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I just had an idea for a reality TV show. Jessica Simpson and Tamao Satō trade places, then we see if either of the lightheaded lovelies harms the other's career while coping with the resulting culture shock. --Teratornis 00:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

That's a great idea. Maybe when it airs, it will have a wikipedia article aswell :D AngelOfSadness talk 00:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Dictionary

Do you have a dictionary here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.150.176 (talk) 21:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikitionary. --Hdt83 ^Chat 21:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, not here at Wikipedia, but there is Wiktionary. Leebo ^T/C 21:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Also try the "define:" option in Google Search. For example: google:define:dictionary. And see: WP:DICT. --Teratornis 22:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

This is also a helpful website. --Thε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I change an article?

Hi. I'm working on some changes for the entry "Baku (spirit)" and do not know how to proceed. Please see my user page for who I am.

How does one make those changes? I have rewritten the article offline, using the original material plus a good deal more material including references, links, and several subheadings. Now, normally, I would simply highlight what I want to change on the edit page for the article and paste in the new material. But that seems to be some sort of no-no.

Second, since I am not a Wikipedian (I'm a subject matter expert, not a Wiki-lawyer), I don't have any idea how to format the references, subheadings, links, and so on. So I need some help with that.

Third, I could include some images -- in fact, I think they're necessary -- but no matter what copyright policies for Wiki might say, I personally believe that including these images DOES violate copyright. So what should I do?

Timothy Perper 23:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

How about you put your version of the article at User:Timothy Perper/Baku (spirit) so we can look at it and help format it. Just click that link and paste what you've got. It's your userspace. Leebo ^T/C 23:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

accounts

I know you want me to create an account, but I don't know how to do that, and I don't know if my parents will let me! What if I have to remember a specific password?!

24.14.216.60 23:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll help you. I don't think your parents would mind you having an account, since you don't have to give any personal information, not even an email address. Click here, pick a username and a password that you can remember. It doesn't have to be really complicated, make it something you would think of. Leebo ^T/C 23:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

However, you should ask your parents first anyway, since we cannot safely speak for them. --Teratornis 23:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Also remember that while there are a number of additional tasks you can perform with an account, you're perfectly free to continue to contribute anonymously. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 00:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Ariel♥Gold!

Thank you, Ariel♥Gold! You're the best! :)♥♥♥♥

24.14.216.60 23:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

We all know Ariel is great, but this isn't really an appropriate thread for the help desk. Take it to User talk:ArielGold if you want. Leebo ^T/C 23:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh, not sure what I did, but Leebo seems to have done some excellent sleuthing and found some good sources, resubmit to WP:AFC using those, with a link here, and it should be approved. Cheers! ^Ariel♥Gold 00:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

Leebo, Tamao Satou and Tamao Sato are the exact same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.216.60 (talk) 23:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I know that, and that's what I said above. I didn't ask that question. Leebo ^T/C 23:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

September 9

SNL Celebrity Jeopardy

I recently encountered the page for SNL Celebrity Jeopardy while going through wikipedia. I noticed that there is a section that lists the episodes and the name of each character in portrayed in them. Missing was 'Turd Fergusson,' an assumed name used as a gag by Burt Reynolds in one of the episodes. This name should of course be noted parenthetically. So, I made the edit and found an admin warning directing me to the talk page.

The talk page, in large part, consists of numerous users arguing with the admin about this issue. They want the Turd Fergusson edit, he doesn't. They have made the Turd Fergusson eidt, he has deleted it.

Throughout the talk section, he fails to produce a logical reason why this information should not be included in the episodes section. His main talking-point for me has been that the name was mentioned 'only' four times in the episode, and that other gags are mentioned more frequently in the series. This entirely misses my point. Since the 'episodes' section lists the characters' names it should also, parenthetically, list this assumed name. So what if they did a different sort of gag more times, those gags don't concern the characters' name and hence, if listed, would not be listed under 'episodes.'

I believe this admin (Croc) is opposing the user consensus and vandalizing the page he is ostensibly supposed to admin. As such, I would like him reprimanded and/or removed by the real wikipedia administration. I would like the REAL wikipedia editors to review the article and talk pages. I have posted links below for your convenience:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Jeopardy%21_%28Saturday_Night_Live%29#Episodes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Celebrity_Jeopardy%21_%28Saturday_Night_Live%29 - in particular note item # 19.

For the moment he has kept the 'Turd Fergusson' edit pending further discussion. However, he has sent me a threatening message claiming that I am engaged in an aggressive 'edit war.' I reject that idea since I hold that he is vandalizing the page by reverting my edit. 141.166.224.83 14:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I request that wikipedia review this discussion to resolve the issue. 141.166.227.172 03:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Your best bet is to follow our dispute resolution process. -- Kesh 23:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Question

Am i allowed to remove vandalism warnings, copyright image notices, etc, from my user talk page? User:Yamakiri user has threatened to permanently protect my user talk page so that i cant edit it. Can i remove copyright image notices at least? i hope you see this soon. thx Modelun88 00:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Getting of tired of going behind him... Anyways, he's removed block notices, and I'm not an admin so I just requested that his page be protected and that he get a block. P.S. he's copied and pasted this on quite a few pages now.Yamakiri 00:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It's not against policy to remove warnings from ones own talk page. While archiving is preferred, removing such notices is permitted. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 00:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Users are allowed to remove warnings, please see Wikipedia:User page#Removal of warnings. On the other hand, users are not allowed to make threats, please see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Behavior that is unacceptable. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I do not beleive that was a threat, I said that I was going to report him and get a RPP on his talk. Anyways it's been sorted out now. Since I couldn't do that how is it a threat? Yamakiri 21:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Userbox

How do you make userboxes?Kitty53 00:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:Userboxes should tell you all you need to know about making userboxes. AngelOfSadness talk 00:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to report an article.

I want to report an article as being false and kindly request that it be removed. The Satanic Ritual Abuse article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_abuse ) is fueled by far fetched propaganda. In actuality, Satanists are essentially atheists with more structure and Darwinistic values. Rituals are viewed purely as psychodrama - a way for one to stimulate the mind and achieve a desired effect catered to the individual. No magic, no blood, no cannibalism, no sexual abuse and so on and so forth. They are rarely performed in a group, only when the number of people have the same interest. There is no real purpose to ritual, it is meant to be a fun activity with no harm done to anyone. My information comes from my own relations with Satanists, not my personal beliefs. My motivation to request that you remove this article is that it is perpetuating a skewed view of Satanism and furthering the lies promoted by such propaganda. Those who actually wish to research Satanism are often deterred by articles like this one because of the lies it promotes. Satanism is so feared because of the insultingly vast amount of articles like this one. Please do me, and the Satanists who may have been appalled by that text this service and remove that article. Thank you for your time.

I would appreciate an email with your decision. My email address is as follows: [email removed]

-Morgana —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fmb426 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

As long as an article has references and is notable it has a right to be on Wikipedia, at the most you could argue that the article doesn't have a neutral point of view (in which case you should post it on the talk page or maybe change it yourself, that is if you don't have a conflict of interest and are up to rewriting it into a neutral article). Also, why should we e-mail a decision when we can answer here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffrey.Kleykamp (talk • contribs) 01:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion regarding Satanic Ritual Abuse. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  :) We do ask that you provide sources for new information and discuss potentially controversial changes on the article's talk page in order to help reach consensus. If an item is sourced with a reliable source and you have an equally reliable source that presents a different view, it is policy to provide balance rather than to choose one. Wikipedia strives for neutrality, which can be hard to achieve if the topic is one about which you feel strongly. And please remember to explain your actions in your edit summaries.:) --Moonriddengirl 01:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd be interested in seeing some sources showing the existence of this atheistic satanism movement you speak. As a lifelong atheist, and someone involved in atheist organizations, the only people I have come across who identify atheists as satanists are certain theists. Atheists don't believe in the devil (by definition) and every one I've ever met would have no use whatever for such rituals and trappings you speak of and would shudder at the idea of engaging in mock satanism, which could only serve to verify the ridiculous notion that atheists are satanists; a notion which again, I have only seen suggested by outsiders with an agenda.--Fuhghettaboutit 13:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I've known some Satanist groups who are essentially just a club that performs "rituals" as a method of rebellion and nihilistic self-fulfillment. It's a variant on LaVeyan Satanism satanism: the emphasis on personal power, wealth and material gain over the needs or wants of others. The anti-Christian trappings are more of a symbolic rebellion against society as a whole than any actual religious belief.

As to the article itself, Satanic ritual abuse has been written about in numerous books and soundly debunked. Just like other conspiracy theories, though, it has gained enough notable coverage in the media that it deserves an article, and the one we have is written in a neutral point of view. Wikipedia does not bury unpleasant facts, and the whole "Satanic Panic" is one of those that we shouldn't forget. -- 68.156.149.62 14:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

How do you create a company box

How do you create a company box on the right side of a definition - for example type vmware... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greg.wyman (talk • contribs) 01:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

See Template:Infobox Company's documentation. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:15, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

About edit conflicts

I just responded above, clicked save, then I looked at the text and an entire paragraph from Moonriddengirl was posted beneath mine without an edit conflict even though, according to the history, my edit came later without me writing between posts, why is this? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 01:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Most likely, you edited a section rather than trying to edit the whole page. If you do this, you will avoid edit conflicts, unless (a) someone else is editing the same section, (b) someone else is editing the whole page or (c) you are editing the last section, and someone else is adding a new section that will go after it. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 01:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait, you mean in the report an article bit section (rather than your edit about company infoboxes). Huh. I don't know. :) — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 01:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflicts work by paragraphs (blocks of text separated by a blank line). Moonriddengirl added a blank line before her post, thus creating a new paragraph. You have not, thus your post was added to the previous paragraph, and there was no conflict. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Odd formatting in Polydor_Records using Firefox browser

I'm not sure whether this is the right place for this, but there is a weirdness in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydor_Records.

The Company history contains three subsections. Their [edit] links have floated down over the top of the text of the second sub-section (entitled "PolyGram"). This appears to be specific to the Firefox browser (I am using 2.0.0.6) as it looks fine in IE.

Regards, Paul. 124.170.8.233 01:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC) Paul C.

I've dispersed the images to appropriate points through the text, and that seems to have fixed it for Firefox. Let's hope it still looks fine in IE. :) --Moonriddengirl 02:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Just checked. It looks perfectly fine in IE. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 03:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Image not thumbnailed correctly

thumb|right|Image thumb|right|100px|Image This image has not thumbnailed correctly. It shows ok when displayed in other sizes as mediawiki makes a new thumbnail, but for the default (180px) it's failed and just shows a white image. Is there any way to get it to show? --h2g2bob (talk) 03:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't have an answer, but since this is a copyrighted image, I've turned the images to links. Leebo ^T/C 04:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

On the Flying Spaghetti Monster article I added 1px to 181px it now shows in my browser▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 06:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I purged the page, the image description page, performed a null edit on the image description page, purged the thumbnail, and cleared my cache. Now it works. This occasionally happens to SVG renderings, though I don't know why. With thumbnail images it's best to not hack a solution, as people might have their thumbnails configured for more than 180px. --Pekaje 14:04, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

downlode

how to downlode Pagewise A-Z index automaticali. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.130.225 (talk) 06:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Your question is too vague for me to understand, but you might find something useful in the following:

• Wikipedia:Syndication
• WP:DUMP
• TomeRaider
• Wikipedia:Pushing to 1.0

If none of those address your question, please explain what you want. --Teratornis 06:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The contents of wikipedia can be found at WP:CONTENTS an a-z index can be found at WP:QI. DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 17:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Missing or deleted article about William F. Draper, painter

William F. Draper (1912-2003), was a prominent painter/portraitist who used to have a page/article in Wikipedia. When I checked it today to find out if new information had been submitted, it was gone - but his grandfather, William F. Draper (General in civil war and ambassador to Italy) remained in Wikipedia.

I wondered if perhaps there was intergenerational confusion that led someone to think there was a duplication, leading to deletion of information about W.F. Draper the artist?

Thanks

69.12.248.247 06:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly, William F. Draper does not appear in the long list of Drapers in Draper (disambiguation), but he does appear in William Draper. I don't know where the article about William F. Draper the artist went (the history for William F. Draper does not show an earlier article revision about the artist), but this Google search finds Draper the artist (unlinked) in the article: Pomfret School. --Teratornis 06:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked the deletion log for William F. Draper and William Draper, with no results. --Teratornis 06:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Someone unlinked William F. Draper in this revision of the Pomfret School article. The editor probably noticed the link went to the wrong William F. Draper at that time. Maybe someone can figure out where the William F. Draper (artist) article went (not knowing the exact article title does not help). --Teratornis 06:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I tried looking for an old article in the Wayback Machine, with no luck. However, I haven't used the Wayback Machine much, so I might not be searching it correctly. --Teratornis 06:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I haven't found sign of an article, but William Franklin Draper painter is requested at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Culture and fine arts#D with a link to [8]. PrimeHunter 22:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I have created the article, it can be found at William Franklin Draper. Will add a note to existing William F. Draper article for redirect. ^Ariel♥Gold 23:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Great job! For my trivial contribution, I added links between Pomfret School and William Franklin Draper. --Teratornis 03:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

cannot find information

 i cannot find any peer reviewed articles on tropical timber logging, does the

> site have such peer reviewed articles please? > > richard > —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.233.136 (talk) 08:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry nothing specific concerning peer reviewed articles on tropical timber logging but here are some related topic I've found

• Logging
• Illegal logging
• Deforestation
• Rainforest#Deforestation
• Amazon_Rainforest#Deforestation ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 09:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

User blanking their Talk page

I just noticed a user (Scorpio87) blank their Talk page, which contained a number of warnings and advice about their recent edits. I know that archiving Talk pages is preferred and I could Undo, but since some of those warnings and advices were from me I am very hesitant to Undo it for fear that it would appear I'm targeting and hounding the soul. Plus, is Undoing someone's blanking of their own Talk page the right thing to do anyway?  SEO⁷⁵ 08:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

No it´s not the right thing. An editor has the right to change his userpage or talkpage (within the rules). This does not say, that your warnings now are forgotten. If he blanked the warnings, he shows, that he did read them. They are not forgotten, because the old versions are archived. You are right, archiving is preferred, but blanking is not forbidden. --Thw1309 08:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Just hope that the warnings and advice were read and understood. :)  SEO⁷⁵ 08:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

When I am reverting vandalism and go to talk pages to warn them. If there are no warnings there, I normally start with a 'Welcome to wikipedia' one. I don't check the history. If they had gotten a final warning, I don't know, so don't report them. I think there should be a more clear way of knowing.... Tiddly-Tom 09:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, which is why I asked my question.  SEO⁷⁵ 09:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

From what I've seen this editor hasn't done anything over the top, some unsourced edits and some newbie mistakes, such as the edit on your user page rather then your talk page here, I didn't see any vandalism on this editors part remember not to bite newcomers :) ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 09:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Take that back there was there were a couple such as this joke edit early on that was rather off, but since then the editor mistakes haven't been outrageous▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 10:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• [reset indent] Fortunately, it's pretty easy to determine if a blank discussion page is unused or blanked. :) If it has been blanked, there's a "history" tab and the word "discussion" is blue. If it's legitimately blank, no "history" tab, red word "discussion". More insidious is when they blank some of their messages or replace it with other text. I've run into that a couple of times. --Moonriddengirl 11:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

pronouncment

Where do you find help for proper pronouncement of a word ex: Schecter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.174.235.24 (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

This site has an audio pronunciation for Schecter▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 11:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Professional associations and organizations

There doesn't seem to be any Infobox format for scientific or professional organizations, such as the International Association for Plant Taxonomy, the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics. Could an appropriate box format be generated? --EncycloPetey 14:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

If existing infoboxes like {{Infobox Organization}} are inadequate then you can request help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes or Wikipedia:Requested templates. PrimeHunter 15:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I did not know about that template because it isn't listed at Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Society. However, it does not really meet the needs for an organization like the IAPT. Most of the parameters don't apply and the ones that would be useful don't exist. --EncycloPetey 19:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Copying images from Wikipedia

I'm not an expert, but it seems that very recently it's become impossible to copy images from Wikipedia - i.e. right click, select copy and paste to another program. Why, if I'm correct, has this change been made? CTwells 16:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I just tried it with some of the images on the main page and it worked (pasted into Paint). What program were you trying to paste into and what browser are you using? Leebo ^T/C 16:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the main page seems to work, but any other article - e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_League_of_Cambrai doesn't seem to have the option to copy when I right-click. Yep, I'm using paint, but it won't copy to Word either. It may just be my PC of course, but everything was fine last night CTwells 16:30, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I had no problem copying that image into Paint. Leebo ^T/C 17:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I've recently copied a picture from here, from my PC I click the image, click the image in the next screen, highlight the last image, edit, copy, but then I'm forced to paste into word, then paint. Yamakiri 21:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

User login for tonymartin

Resolved

I submitted a question about my account earlier today. I was incorrect in believing that my account had somehow been disabled.

The error was my own. I am able to login successfully. No further action needed.

Thank you.Tonymartin 16:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

RHE76 Adaptable Modem

Hello,I have a question regarding my RHE76 Adaptable modem in regards to Wikipedia's html display. What make of modem will I need to view Wikipedias pages with proficiancy? Models RHE12-74 wouldnt be suitable nor my current modem. My modem details (in regard to the FTS code) is HDHD746H. Thank You. --Lownneraatzimmereichen 16:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why a different modem would make a difference to the display of webpages (although it might load faster or slower). A modem is simply used to, put simply, send and receive data, and how a webpage is displayed depends on your web browser. x42bn6 Talk Mess 04:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

text appearing in different languages

Hi,

Most of the time when a Wikipedia page loads, portions of the text are in different languges. Is there anything I can do to make al the text appear in English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

If the page is in the English Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org then it should be in English (except for the box called "in other languages"). Parts not in English should be removed or translated except rare cases (for example if the article discusses other languages). Can you give examples? PrimeHunter 17:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can. If I copy and paste an article, it is spelled correctly and in english. If I try to take a snapshot of the screen, I cannot paste it here. How can I show you?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Upon closer examination it may not be languages other than English but garbled letters and symbols like quotes, brackets and mixtures of letters that do not make words. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

By examples I meant links to the pages. It sounds to me like the problem is in your browser, but it could also be that you are viewing vandalized pages. PrimeHunter 18:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

When I open the home page the section "Today's featured article" should say:

"Hey Ya!" is a hip hop song written and produced by André 3000 for his 2003 album The Love Below, part of OutKast's double album Speakerboxxx/The Love Below. The song takes influence from funk and rock music, drawing comparisons to the work of The Beatles.

But my screen shows:

"Hey Ya!" is a hip hop song written and produced by André 3000 for his 2003 album Vjg"Nqxg"Dgnqy, part of OutKast's double album Urgcmgtdqzzz1Vjg"Nqxg"Dgnqy. The song takes influence from funk and rock music, drawing comparisons to the work of The Beatles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

What browser are you using? HoCkEy PUCK 18:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Safari 2.0.4 running on a powermac with OSX 10.4.10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goodkarma01 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The main page text looks fine for me. The garbled part for you is in italics which your browser can apparently not display with the used font. This sentence is normal. This sentence is in italics. Do you see garbled text after "This sentence is normal"? Can you change font? PrimeHunter 18:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I have a secure account but someone called 'ryulong' has indefinitely blocked access

Sir,

I wanted to upload a description of a newly formed sub-group officially sanctioned by the UK Liberal Democrats, called the Liberal Democrat Friends of Palestine.

However, having created an account i then hunted all over the Wikipedia web pages to see how i could contact the adminstrator 'ryulong' who blocked my access, but i can fin no way of contacting them to ask why they have denied me access.

All i want to do is upload an above board, genuine text about us but am blocked form doing so.

Our website if you wish to chekc this is a genuine request is at

www.ldfp.eu

Would someone please explain why I have been blocked and how i can be unblocked so that I can add the information about our organisation to Wikipedia.

Thank you.

account name: patriote —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriote (talk • contribs) 18:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Your account User:Patriote was created 27 minutes before making the above post, and it has never been blocked. Liberal Democrat Friends of Palestine has never been created and is not protected against creation. Can you be more specific about what you have tried and what happened? Did it involve another account? PrimeHunter 18:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

You can contact the user ryulong here. --Thw1309 18:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I would assume that he edited from an IP, and made the post. <personal attack removed - Corvus cornix 16:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)> Could you tell us if you're editing from the same IP you made the post as? Yamakiri 20:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

WP:NPA. Ryulong is an admin and therefore has proven that he has the support of the community. If you disagree, there is always the WP:RFAR process. Corvus cornix 16:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I request an article be created?

I would like to request an article (External hard drive; it is currently a redirect) be created. Is there any place to do that? HoCkEy PUCK 18:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

There is an official request page at Wikipedia:Requested articles, but that´s no fast way. I would ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer science--Thw1309 18:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The article exists already, it is just simply named differently. The redirect goes to Disk enclosure which is a comprehensive article about external hard drives. ^Ariel♥Gold 21:38, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

incorrect link

Hi, I am new to wikipedia. I found a link which is incorrect in the sense, its dedicated to a person adn the name of the person is incorrectly given and hence so is the link. how to correct it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulsarma (talk • contribs) 18:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Please could you tell us the name of the article and of the link?--Thw1309 18:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The name is "Arun Kumar Sarma". Note there is no "h" at the end as the link suggests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arun_Kumar_Sarmah

Problems with imagemap

I use the imagemap tag to produce clickable icons in my contents page - ie clicking on the icon should link to the page listed rather than the image tag. However, this has stopped working for most links - though it still works for the To do link. I know it used to work and it hasn't chnaged recently. Has the syntax for imagemap changed, or is there a bug in the system at present? – Tivedshambo (talk) 20:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I checked the page and there don't seem to be any problems. If the problems persist, though, you might want to use the template {{click}}, but use it only if the imagemap tags don't work. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 21:06, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be a browser problem - it works in Firefox but not in IE6 (my default browser). – Tivedshambo (talk) 21:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy!

Who created Tamao Sato?! Whoever created this article, please let me know, because I am so happy!♥Kitty53 20:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The page history says it was User:Kappa who created it. AngelOfSadness talk 20:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

To show your appreciate you might want to add the following {{subst:smile}} to his/hers talk page. --Thε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 22:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Restoring Flugpo Article

I am trying to create an article on a website which has been deleted under the context of advertisment and lack of nobility. After further researching Wikipedia's policies, my userpage contains the latest version of the article and I was interested in recieving further information how to meet Wikipedia's requirements. If you could either assist me in this or point me in the right direction, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.Saracity123 22:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Saracity123. Your tone does not seem inappropriate--you seem to have the neutral point of view down. But I note that your article is lacking sufficient external sources and there really still is not claim of notability. What makes Flugpo of interest to readers of an encyclopedia? Once you've set that out, you need third-party sources distinct from company specific ones to help substantiate claims. For instance, if you've won a major industry award, you might provide a citation for that from reputable media, an industry publication perhaps. The third party source you do have seems to be from a blog without editorial review, which would not qualify it as a reliable source. Once you've asserted what makes Flugpo of interest to an encyclopedia's readers and backed it up with third-party sources, then you can expand from the company's own webpage. If you feel you can improve the article, you might want to take it next to requests for feedback. --Moonriddengirl 00:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

creating an article

I want to create a page about the beat poet Philomene Long. I am worried about content and quality issues.

cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theaetetus (talk • contribs) 23:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Be bold. :) An article doesn't have to be perfect to be good. Remember the pillars--particularly the first two as regards tone, sourcing and content. If you're worried about quality, you might want to review the manual of style and check out some of the links at "what is a good article?" or "article development". If you're really nervous, you may want to take your ideas to the drawing board for feedback. Once you write it, you might choose to seek feedback. Good luck, and I hope you have fun with it. :) --Moonriddengirl 00:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Being bold by itself won't affect whether your article gets deleted. I suggest keeping a copy of your article on your computer in case that happens. (I think gladiators were also advised to be bold.) --Teratornis 06:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

September 10

aurora borealis

what do scientists usually call aurora borealis? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.185.92.192 (talk) 01:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

In my experience, they call it the Aurora Borealis. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 01:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

That's tthe Northern lights.K14 09:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

• You are asking the wrong question. You're probably looking for "northern lights" as the alternative name, but Aurora Borealis is the scientific name. - 131.211.210.17 11:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Craftsman Design

My daughter is using a Craftsman design from the internet and needs interior finishes to be able to specify interior designs to the builders bidding on it such as how interior doors are trimmed, design of baseboards, kitchen cabinets etc so as to be as authentic as possible to the era of the Craftsman house designs. How do I search for that information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.25.38 (talk) 01:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about American Craftsman. If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. --Moonriddengirl 01:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

missing information

why dont u have the Feb 2, 1963 Northwest Airlines crash in florida Everglades listed???? My mother was on that plane, and yes, it is a "notable" airline disaster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.66.163 (talk) 04:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean February 12? Either way, it's listed at Northwest Airlines#Fatal accidents. If you think it is notable, then you can write an article on it. x42bn6 Talk Mess 04:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

editorial changes are visible only when I am logged into Wikipedia.

I edited the Wikipedia article on Ross Dress for Less (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Stores) and saved my changes. When I am logged in and view that page, I see the changes that I made, but when I view the page without being logged in, I see the original, unmodified page. This is very strange. What's going on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pfeldman (talk • contribs) 05:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You need to clear your cache. Go to your browser options and delete the temporary files. See WP:CACHE for more details. --Hdt83 ^Chat 05:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

hyperlink not working

whenever i try to hyperlink a website through google after searching

it displays page cannot be displayed

whats the problem, with other sites its working202.54.42.17 05:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You may be observing link rot. Google Search results usually provide an additional link to a cached copy of a page; can you view that? I guess you are asking for help with Google here because Google sure does not have a Help desk for the general public like Wikipedia does (and imagine the questions they would get). --Teratornis 06:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Commons images

I just uploaded an image at the Commons, but after coming back here, I noticed a nonfree image under the same name. Is there any way to use to the Commons image (and not just link to it) without having to change the name of one of these files? -- RG² 06:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry no luck, This is what i found from Commons:FAQ

"I want to use a Commons image, but there is already a file at my local wiki with the same name which is blocking it. How can I access the Commons file?

Unfortunately at this time, the only options are to have the local file deleted, or re-upload the Commons image under another name." ▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 10:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

OK -- I didn't see that. Thanks for the help. -- RG² 16:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Want to add list

I want to add my hospital in the list of Hospitals. How do I do it?07:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

• You find List of hospitals, then click on "edit this page", and insert your hospital in the proper place. But beware of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Shalom ^Hello 07:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Uploading an image to a page

I am having problems understanding how all of this works. I would like to offer an image of my German Coolie dog for use on the corresponding page in the section describing colors of this breed. I have successfully uploaded the image (Image:P63000700110240540540202.JPG) but do not understand how to get the photo approved for the page. Any information on this would be appreciated. Thank You, Ssircle —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssircle (talk • contribs) 07:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply on user talk. Shalom ^Hello 07:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleting previous versions of a picture

I want to delete the previous versions of Spencer Chamberlain pictures that I've uploaded. I uploaded one a while ago, found that another picture was better, and just recently decided that I had another picture that was better (this one is now the current version). I would like to delete the previous versions of the image Image:Warpedtourspencer.jpg. Is there anyway to do this? -Lindsey8417 09:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You can upload new versions of the image on top of the old one, by specifying the same name. Generally, there isn't a need to delete older versions of an image unless they're copyright violations or there's something similar wrong with them; the old versions will simply stay in the image's history. If there is a pressing need to delete old versions of an image, you can contact an administrator via the admins' noticeboard to request the deletion. --ais523 12:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Pale color scheme for Scheme code examples

I don't know if the colors used for syntax highlighting of the code examples were changed recently or if they always were like that and it is just that my eyes are not what they used to be, however: as I am writing this, Scheme keywords in code examples are displayed with a very pale yellow/green color that I find hard to read on the white background that is given by the monobook skin I use. Wikipedia is apparently using the GeSHi extension for syntax highlighting. Who do I have to contact if I want to change the color scheme? — Tobias Bergemann 09:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia administrators. The colour scheme can be overriden at MediaWiki:Geshi.css; you can read discussions about it at MediaWiki talk:Geshi.css. If you have a change to suggest, then you can place ideas or preferably coding on that talk page, and place the {{editprotected}} template there to request an administrator makes the change for you. (A change is likely needed; the consensus on that page was along the lines of 'comments should be green, keywords should be blue', which the current Scheme colour scheme doesn't seem to fit.) Most programming languages still have their colours set to the defaults, so extra input would be very helpful. Hope that helps! --ais523 10:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

to creat an account

I went to the said page and correctly typed the word indicated by you. Indicated my user name and the PASSWORD pressed log in . Was surprised to receive a reply from you that the password is incorrect. I fail to understand your reply. I have never used Wikipedia so what makes you reply that the password is incorrect. If you do not desire that I should open an account pl tell me so. If that is the case then to hell with you. Most disgusted. SOLI —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.65.84.110 (talk) 10:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, we'd like you to contribute from an account, that just means you didn't type the password the same both times. I usually spend a minute both times typing in my passwords the first time, so I know for certain they're the same, and I didn't just happen to make the same mistake twice. Yamakiri 10:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

If you have given an e-mail address for the account then click "E-mail new password" at login. You can also create a new account. PrimeHunter 12:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It's also possible that somebody else already has the username you were trying to set up under. --Orange Mike 16:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hide/show menus

Since I didn't get an answer when I posted this Aug 31, I'll repost the question below:

Someone the menus in my userpages have stopped to load in the default hidden manner I coded them for originally. I think this changed because someone changed the code for it. Can someone help me fix it or point me to the appropriate page for details? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:40, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

There are two different pieces of show/hide code in use; both are in MediaWiki:Common.js, and there's documentation for both at Wikipedia:NavFrame, which should help fix the problem. --ais523 12:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are talk about the default show on your userpage for example "My subpages" that are displaying

chance this line

• <div class="NavContent" style="text-align:left">
• to
• <div class="NavContent" style="display:none; text-align:left">

▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 19:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Searching using Cyrillic alphabet

When viewing a page in Russian I may want to search for topic in Russian but when I switch my keyboard to Cyrillic (which do frequently in Word and other applications) I find the search box contains non-Cyrillic characters. How can I rectify this? James McM 11:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC) James

You can try searching in the Russian Wikipedia. Chances are you're not going to get a very good search using Cyrillic characters here. As for why the characters aren't displaying, I'm not sure. Make sure your web browser is completely up to date, but besides that, I'm out of ideas. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Eeh, I don't understand the rules on deletion.

And how to get an article back, the only information I'm given is "(notability not asserted) " thus, I have absolutely no idea what of the 3 categories it falls under. Mattz1010 12:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there a specific article you mean? --Moonriddengirl 13:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like WP:CSD#A7 but we may be able to say more if we get the name. Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? may be of interest. PrimeHunter 13:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

To get a copy of your article back for your own use, see: Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles. You may be able to find another wiki that will accept it, if you cannot make the article meet Wikipedia's requirements. --Teratornis 02:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Well - I didn't personally create the article, it went by the name of Advanced Anime

However - we're reorganizing the article and starting off with something much smaller than what was originally put up and deleted, so when we're ready again, I suppose we'll put it up.

The reasons for putting AA onto wiki, is that it's a fairly popular site, and thus being, should probably have a wiki article on it. Searching for "anime" in Google usually brings it to a pretty high result Mattz1010 12:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (web) can help you determine if Advanced Anime meets criteria. Particularly important will be third party verification. Good luck. :) --Moonriddengirl 13:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The article was at Advanced anime. The deleting administrator apparently never makes a relevant policy link [9] which is sometimes unfortunate. PrimeHunter 15:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Heh. Well I didn't want to single out anybody. Thanks for all your help, I'm sure we'll have an article up soon about the site. ^_^. Mattz1010 03:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Someone changing something with false information

I keep changing a page and someone keeps changing it back with false information. How can I stop this? The page is re: the University of Maryland victory song and what students do during the M-A-R-Y-L-A-N-D portion of it

Homertuck 14:03, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

What is the exact page name? If it's Maryland Terrapins then the current version has your statement. Note that Wikipedia content should be based on published reliable sources. Your personal knowledge cannot be used. PrimeHunter 14:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

thyroid disease

Is it advisable for a person taking levothyroxine to take Creatine suppliments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.109.43.51 (talk) 14:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's editors are not qualified to give medical advice. Please consult your doctor or pharmacist. --Moonriddengirl 14:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Error

I am an employee at American Express and noticed that you have incorrectly linked to the wrong biography page for the above listed AmEx executive. Please delete the link and replace with a "there is no article on this person".

The link begins at the American Express article (management section) to a redirect page to John Daniel Hayes, a deceased person (1902-1991). If you want further information on John D. Hayes you can request to speak to a public affairs and communications person by calling the main operator at 212-640-2000.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by MariaM-NYC (talk • contribs) 15:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright issues

do i need to get permission from someone for a picture if i use a screenshot of a video? I mean since you usually use the printscreen button and then cut it out, doesnt that technically mean the picture becomes your own work?The juggreserection 13:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Simply the act of taking a picture of a larger work of art does not involve enough creative work on your part to justify your ownership of the copyright. You will need to contact the producer of the video, or other appropriate agent, for permission to use the screenshot, or you may upload it to Wikipedia under a fair use criteria, provided that all of those criteria are met to the letter. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Sandals

This article is a malicious attack from what looks like to be an angry person who had an account with us. It is false and malicious for many reasons:

First, He claims that our "unethical" practice of having a website that sells directly to the customer lowers the retail price. - What shoe company does not have a retail website? Practically none! - Two, we threaten to close accounts if people sell our sandals BELOW our suggested retail price. Our retail website keeps the price high!

I have worked with the company since I was since I've been 16 years-old and have heard Jay saying "we don't do it that way." However, “we don’t do it that way” refers to accounts placing big orders early in advance to be first in line for the season and then wanting to change their order right before it's to be shipped. It takes a lot of time and money to unpack, restock, and repack a big order. If one does so, we charge a 15% restocking fee, hence, wholesale customers get angry (particularly the ones from North Carolina). 85% of upset customers that threaten us come from the Carolinas. We don’t have the time or resources to accommodate such changes, because surprisingly, we are still a small company, hence, we only advertise in the Surfer’s Journal, where our competitors advertise, in Surfing Magazine, Surfer Magazine, Water Magazine and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in sponsoring the top surfers and sending them around the world.

The second malicious attack is in the area of China Production. He claims that we decided to move all production to China in 2002 and that working conditions are poor and that the workers "toil" in the small city they are produced. For one, we're a private company and no one knows who makes them but us. Also, if Hong Kong is a small city then my name is not Rudolph Patrick Huber, -- they are made in Hong Kong.

Third, he claims that all Rainbow Sandals are produced in China and that number is 9,000 per day. Approximately 6,500 a day are produced in China and WE STILL produce 1,200 a day in San Clemente, CA USA. In 2002, the Southern California Air Quality District came to use and said the VOC (volatile Organic Compounds) in our glue were exceeding maximum. We had to either find a way to lower the VOC levels, move production to China, or quit doing business. The same exact thing happened to Clark Foam (At the time produced 90% of the surf board blanks in the industry) who felt too old and decided to quit throwing the entire surfboard industry in to a world-wide scare for about a year.

We decided on doing both. In order to still produce in the US we had to purchase a 4 million dollar catalytic oxidizer, contain all the glue, and limit production to no more than 1,200 pair per day. Otherwise, suffer severe penalties. We didn't have the space or the money to make bigger facilities with oxidizers to serve the demand we had. In 2002, our Total Revenue was only 4.1 million. So, we had to move to China. We didn't want to because of the consensus of the working conditions being poor, so we did our research and found an appropriate place. Also, we have a quality product and couldn't sacrifice any quality so we send our materials to China. As a result the cost per unit production is the same. Working conditions are fair and quality of product is the same, hence, the warranty of our product is still the same.

I could go on much longer, but I think I have relayed enough information that this article is a malicious attack on our company. Please make necessary changes or remove it from your website.

Thank You Pat Huber Marketing Rainbow Sandals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.248.226 (talk) 16:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I have removed considerable unsourced material from the page and also your comment, which should more properly be placed at Talk:Rainbow Sandals. I've placed it there under a subheader marked tone. What remains is neutral in tone. The article is problematic anyway because it does not meet Wikipedia's requirements for verification. I'll be working on the article further. --Moonriddengirl 16:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

AIDS TEST

How do I get a test for AIDS? I don't think I have it, but I want to make sure. Thanks a lot Pilotbob 17:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not offer medical advice. Please consult your doctor. ::Manors:: 17:55, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

updated image doesn't display properly

I uploaded a newer image file for Image:FPLP Maggie.png, and it displays fine in the image page, but the older version (smaller, without transparency) is still displaying in article pages. I've tried refreshing the page, emptying the cache, logging out and back in, even looking from other computers, but the new image won't display. The others that went through the same upgrade (Image:FPLP Eddie.png, Image:FPLP Michael.png, Image:FPLP Sarah Lynn.png, and Image:FPLP Sonya Lee.png) seem to not have the same problem. HokieRNB 18:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

This happens sometimes. I'll try to purge the servers, which sometimes helps. It should work in a few hours in any case. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems to be working now. If this ever happens to you again, try adding ?action=purge to the end of the URL in your address bar on both the article and the image page. This should force the servers into updating their information. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

khurry ov ghetto

is there a website called khurry ov ghetto —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.224.78 (talk) 18:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please put new question under a new header. The help desk is for question on how to use wikipedia. You might want to try the reference desk. KTC 19:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Adminship

If you nominate yourself for adminship and are turned down can you re-apply? Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) ^(T/C) 18:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC).

Most certainly. However, do note that RfA contributors will look to see it has at least been a couple of months since the last nomination, and that you have learned from whatever constructive opposition were present the first time round and has improved / gain more experience to address those opposition. KTC 19:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't see a previous request by you so I assume that you are trying to make sure that if you do a self-nomination you won't permanently burn your bridges. Even though you can reapply, as noted by KTC above, if you are thinking of nominating yourself I suggest you read Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship and also that you hold off for some time until you gain more experience. Having taken a quick look at your contribution, you seem to be on the right track. However, for good or bad, there are many RFA regulars who require more than 2,000 edits as a standard—even 3 or 4 thousand. There is a bit of controversy over such "editcountitis standards", with some users decrying that users who vote on this basis ignore the substance of the edits, but it is nevertheless a reality. Some users will also oppose if a user hasn't been editing for a certain time span, such as at least six months or a year. Some users like to see significant mainspace contributions and edits across a number of areas and you seem (in my cursory review) to be mostly involved in anti-vandal work. Very useful but it will not give you the breadth of experience some users may like to see. If writing articles is not your thing, stub, maintenance and category tagging, and helping out with adding sources to article is a good way to gain some experience there. Significant experience with AfD and newpages patrol are often expected—especially if you plan to help out with admin backlogs associated with either of those processes. You also need to start using edit summaries consistently. Many users will oppose if you don't have near perfect usage. I suggest you turn on "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" under the editing tab in your user preferences. One note: don't correct other users' grammar or spelling on talk page posts or userpage messages, as I noticed you had for one user. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Centering an Infobox

My infobox at Template:Civil_War_DC_forts recently switched to left-justified when it was updated with the latest Military History infobox standards, and I can't seem to figure out how to center the information. Could someone either fix it or tell me how, please? No one seemed to be able to figure it out on the IRC channel. JKBrooks85 21:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

USER NAME

I have a problem with the user name ...MAYVEN ...which is not being accepted ...for whatever reason . I wish to participate in a discussion . This is my first time useing this site . Please help ...

Thanks

marty —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.140.238 (talk) 21:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are having trouble creating an account you can request one here: Wikipedia:Request an account▪◦▪≡ЅiREX≡^Talk 22:12, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

(ec) There is no user registered with the name MAYVEN. However, Mayven registered at 13:44, September 11, 2006 UTC (but never made any edits), so that username is taken (but eligible for usurpation). What username did you register under? Remember that it's case sensitive. --Pekaje 22:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution Question

I'm a law student doing some research for a professor who is researching dispute resolutions on your Wikipedia & Wikipedia Japan websites. I was wondering where I could find out more information about the number of people who have been banned from Wikipedia since it's creation. I would like to know the number for Wikipedia Japan as well. Also, I would like to find out the number of frozen or locked pages in Wikipedia Japan and Wikipedia. Is any of this information possible to obtain on the website itself, or from an administrator?

Thank you so much for your help.

155.247.166.28 22:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

English Wikipedia: blocked users • protected pages

Japanese Wikipedia: blocked users (In English) • protected pages (In English)--Werdan7^{T @} 22:29, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Dispute

Please help...I have someone who keeps changing the information on a page which he keeps changing to incorrect information. The page is LOTAR and it is in reference to a legally copywriten name here in the US. My old partner teaches KAPAP and the information for my LOTAR page keep getting reverted back to his information...The system in question has history in the US and has changed and evolved over time and separation from what the person keep claiming please help me with this issue...you can see by the editing was has been going on. I have asked him to stop but he will not...it is a legal issue at this point. Please help me with this and block him from editing my page...the user is Ynhockey…please advise what to do….

Thank you,

Brian Rauchbach

President Lotar Self defense —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronin6969 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not make legal threats on Wikipedia. As to your issue with the edits, follow the steps outlined in our dispute resolution process. Also, please read our conflict of interest guidelines. If you are the President of Lotar Self Defense, it is rather inappropriate for you to be editing the article yourself. -- Kesh 23:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

What was the two millionth article?

And how did you guys find out what the millionth was? I remember when this site reached one million articles, you knew what the millionth was right away. 71.187.170.128 23:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

See: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2006-03-06/Millionth article which might give some background on your second question. --Teratornis 23:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

And see: Wikipedia:Two-million pool. I found the first article with this Google search, and it linked to the second. --Teratornis 23:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

You might also see:

• wikinews:Wikipedia passes two million article mark
• Talk:El Hormiguero#2,000,000th article
• es:Wikipedia:Café/Portal/Archivo/Noticias/Actual#Artículo 2.000.000 (if you speak Spanish)

--Teratornis 02:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

September 11

Quoting

What are the guidelines for quoting a book within a Wikipedia article and what is the correct Wiki formatting to use when doing so?

Icosahedron 00:01, 11 September 2007 (UTC)Icosahedron

Guidelines can be found at citing sources. There are different formats set forth there from which you might choose. :) Linked from within that page is a list of citation templates that might be helpful, and there is a page of examples. Hope that helps. --Moonriddengirl 00:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

TO Icosahedron: You should quote as little from the book as possible, only what is needed to illustrate your point. Most of the information in an article should be in your own words. To add the reference, use the {{cite book}} template enclosed in <ref></ref> tags. See WP:CITE and WP:FOOT for more details. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you both to Moonriddengirl and Hersfold - very useful Icosahedron 00:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)Icosahedron

Sending pictures

can i send picture thru this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngmary (talk • contribs) 00:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

TO Ngmary: I'm not quite sure what you mean. Can you rephrase your question in a new section? Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Garlows deletion

My article about the Garlows was deleted for copyright infringement. I also had a external link. I removed the link but the page is still deleted. I am the originator of the story, the pictures and the website of which the referance is made. How do I get my story about the Garlows replaced. Too much work to try to do over from scratch If its gone for good, I won't try to rebuild it. The garlow story is about americana that has been largely overlooked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemetianmotif (talk • contribs) 00:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already on line. If you give the required permission to use your website, you can request undeletion of Garlows. For example at User talk:ST47, the administrator who deleted it. I haven't seen the article and don't know whether the content is otherwise appropriate for Wikipedia, for example with repsect to Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Verifiability. PrimeHunter 00:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Attempted Retention Process/Policy

Greetings, I have not looked into this before, so here goes. Currently our deletion policy makes it far to easy to nominate an article for deletion[10] when all it actually needs is some love. All articles should first go through an "attempted retention" process. Here is my idea but I don't know how to start a new piece of policy.

All articles that do not qualify for speedy delete would need to go through the following process before they are allowed to go for a AfD.

Fix it - Can you fix it? Does it needs sources? Have you tagged it as such?

Yes? Then Fix it!

No? Merge - Can this article be merged with its parent topic? Can a group of articles be merged into one?

Yes? Commence the merge process!

No? - TransWiki Can we move this to another wiki with a compatable licence?

Yes? Move it then!

No? Delete - Commence the Deletion process.

Comments? Suggestions? Help? - Fosnez 00:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC) Italic text

There are at least two initiatives to try and improve articles rather than delete them. Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron and Wikipedia:Intensive Care Unit. You might like to join them, and discuss with them about changing policy as you'll find other like minded people there. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 02:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

New policies can be suggested at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). PrimeHunter 02:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou. I am a member of Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron and have placed this item at the village pump Fosnez 02:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I wrote some random gibberings at: User:Teratornis/Outplacement about possibly organizing an effort to "outplace" some of our deleted articles with other wikis that would want them. I use "outplacement" because "transwiki" seems to refer to moving articles to other Wikimedia Foundation wikis, and that barely scratches the surface of available wikis. From what I gather, outplacement seems to be an underused option, judging from the many people who find their way to the Help desk to ask Why was my article deleted? In many cases the victims aren't aware of other wikis suitable for their articles, and the people who deleted their articles did not inform them of this possibility. It seems there is a gap in the information flow between deletionists and those they "serve." I would like to help invent a way to close this gap. --Teratornis 02:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, let me ask you this. Just perusing the list of today's AfD nominations (not counting the redlinks of articles which were speedy deleted already), tell me how your proposal would apply to:

• Boony doll
• Film on Thursday
• Neighborhood Planning Unit W
• Suburban Reptiles Corvus cornix 16:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't speak for Fosnez, but the Film on Thursday article, for example, is a possible candidate for outplacement to a hospitable wiki. Someone should tell the creator of the article to try another wiki if Wikipedia deletes the article. But what seems to happen normally is that nobody tells the article's creator about that option. --Teratornis 17:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Gailer School article

Dear Wikipedia folks,--Chauc 00:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I happened upon an article today that is about a school that I founded and have kept an eye on over the last six years during which I have been working as a professor of education (and no longer associated with the school). There seems to be a troubled person with an axe to grind attempting to bring down the school's reputation via the Wikipedia. Some specifics:

"Harry Chaucer, a disaffected former high school teacher". I am Harry Chaucer. I was not disaffected. This is someone else's value judgment and does not belong in an encyclopedic article.

"an emphasis that contrasts with the more multi-cultural approaches found in most progressive schools". My son remained at Gailer until this fall. His study was multi-cultural included trips to the Dominican Republic, the entire school learning Spanish for six years, books from other cultures etc.

"all of which may have constituted "progressive" pedagogy at one time but are now mainstream even in public schools. The school has notably not achieved accreditation by any national, state, or regional agency." Two problems here. I work in public schools each week. Sadly, few of these progressive ideas mainstream today. Regarding accreditation, this is the most egregious error. Gailer was fully approved by the State of Vermont in 1989 and remains approved today (see Department of Education website listing of approved Vermont Independent Schools). See http://education.vermont.gov/new/pdfdoc/pgm_independent/directory_020807.pdf for the DOE listing.

"however in the wake of continuing financial troubles and mismanagement, it relocated to rented quarters at the Unitarian Universalist Church in Middlebury, Vermont, a move which brought about a significant loss of both faculty members and students and also engendered much opposition from parents. The school has faced many problems, including bullying amongst the student body, charges of discrimination against minorities, board interference with the day-to-day running of the school, and financial mismanagement. Late in 2006 the head of school suddenly resigned and left in the middle of the school year. Gailer's loss of talented teachers and students has been rapid, and the school's enrollment is now roughly half what it was only two years ago." This paragraph is full of personal judgments that do not belong in a fair-minded and objective reference.

This person seems to have a personal grudge. Gailer is no longer my school - I chose to work in a college setting many years ago. However, my sense of fair play demands that I write to you and ask you to somehow block this person's efforts.

Thanks very much.

Harry Chaucer Professor of Education Director, the Woodruff Institute for School Leaders Director, ACT II post-baccalaureate Program Castleton State College

I have restored an earlier version of the article, from before Leonardodv started editing, and I have asked him to cite sources for any information he adds. If he continues to add unsourced information, he may be blocked.--Werdan7^{T @} 01:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

New user wants to add pages edited anonymously to "my contributions"

I edited an article several times before signing up as a user. How can I add those anonymously edited pages to "my contributions"

Scotwriter 04:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You can't. They belong to the IP address that made them. -- kainaw™ 04:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

But you can link to the IP address on your userpage and say that all edits before X date were yours. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 05:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Relating to my contribution list. There is a M inserted to it. What's that means? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anacrossan (talk • contribs) 04:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The bold m means a minor edit. --Hirohisat ^Kiwi 04:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

tagging

I wrote an article for The Mary Baker Eddy Library, and I don't know how to tag it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simplywater (talk • contribs) 05:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Tag, meaning to make a tag like

{{cleanup}} (not likely), {{expand}}, or on talk pages like {{WikiProject Japan}} --Hirohisat ^Kiwi 05:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You can find the templates at [[Category:Template categories]]. The second kind, you can find at the project page of the projects, which care for the subject. For example, if you have an article about a Catholic church in Japan, you look at Wikipedia:WikiProject JapanWikipedia:WikiProject Architecture and Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism.--Thw1309 09:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Can I use Wikipedia Commons images that are in the public domain in a commercial item to sell?

I've looked everywhere and can't find exactly what I am looking for.

If I know that an image in Wikipedia Commons is in the US public domain for certain, and it is also marked as such, may I copy that image and use it in an item to sell? For example a T-shirt? Or a CD? Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.241.132 (talk) 05:53, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --tjstrf talk 05:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You may want to verify whether that image is indeed "in the US public domain for certain" ... and make absolutely sure before you begin your entrepreneurial endeavors. Many users mistakenly assume an image is "public domain" when it is in fact distributed under a creative commons attribution sharealike license. That is not the same thing as "public domain".

If you are absolutely certain about the "public domain" status, and you go ahead with your business venture, you might also want to consider adopting a business plan that makes appropriate recognition of the source of your business assets, and allocate a percentage of your revenue accordingly. dr.ef.tymac 07:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all very much. Great info and great ideas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.241.132 (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Didn't anyone remember that we aren't supposed to offer legal advice? It depends on the picture and the use. All we can say is that free images can be reused. The specific reuse and specific caveats for a pictures (eg. personality rights or moral rights) may need an intellectual property lawyer to answer the question. Carcharoth 16:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Heidi Montag

her webpage has some really nasty language in it, but the code is hidden so people can't remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.91.57.205 (talk) 09:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi, and thank you for reporting that vandalism. I have removed the last 2 edits that were indeed very nasty. I'm a little confused about where "the code is hidden"? There seems to be nothing nasty buried in the mark-up. Can you clarify that so I can help further? Pedro |  Chat  10:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

HELP

What is the defination of susceptible host —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.25.59 (talk) 13:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions related to using Wikipedia. You may have more luck asking at one of the reference desks. Leebo ^T/C 14:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

And be sure to specify what the susceptible host is susceptible to, because your question as you worded it is ambiguous. For example, you might be talking about biological parasites, diseases, or computer viruses. See: Host (biology), Host (network), Host (psychology), and the Host disambiguation page. --Teratornis 17:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Sandbox

1. How do I create and use the sandbox?

2. How can I create a named subpage for my user page (e.g., userpage/subtopic). Someone created one for me a while back but I can't find it and can't make another.

Timothy Perper 14:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Timothy. Please don't use the {{helpme}} tag on this page, it's for requesting help at your talk page. You can create a sandbox or other user page by creating a link like User:Timothy Perper/Sandbox. Leebo ^T/C 14:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Timothy, and thanks for your questions. To create a personal sand box go to your User page (or talk page). Edit it and type (for the User Page) [[User:Timothy Perper/Sandbox]]. Save the page and you will see it's redlinked. By then clicking the red link you can edit it as you wish. When you save it the link will turn blue from your user page. Is that okay, or would you like me to do if for you for the first time?Pedro |  Chat  14:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Further is User:Timothy Perper/Baku (spirit) the previous sub page you were after ? Pedro |  Chat  14:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You have a user subpage at User:Timothy Perper/Baku (spirit). "the sandbox" usually refers to the common sandbox at Wikipedia:Sandbox. You can either use this (which will quickly be overwritten) or create your own sandbox. PrimeHunter 14:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

How to add a company to a category?

Hi,

I would like to add a company to the category /Transportation/Car Rental

How to do so?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emaurer (talk • contribs) 14:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Emaurer. Does the company already have an article? The article needs to exist before it can be added to the category. If so, could you advise which company it is? Thanks! Pedro |  Chat  14:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• (edit conflict)Hi, Emaurer. Category pages are not static pages that you can edit directly. They are created automatically by the database by collecting the list of all articles containing the category tag. For instance, if a company contains the tag Category:Transportation, it will appear in that category. You can add an article to that category by placing the category near the bottom of the article. Leebo ^T/C 14:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not a web directory. If you want to add the URL for a company without an article then find another site, for example http://www.dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Portugal/Transportation/Car_Rentals/ PrimeHunter 14:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks Pedro. How to add an article? Or how to add an article to the category?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emaurer (talk • contribs) 15:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Emaurer. See Wikipedia:Your first article for help on starting an article. As above, to categorise the article add the category at the bottom of the page - see this page for a bit more and some useful links. Also - please remember that you should sign your name on talk pages if you can. Just type four tildes ( ~~~~) at the end of your question or comment. Pedro |  Chat  15:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

font type

my font has been chane to some wierd fancy type font while everything still appears normal only the text in wiki is weird looking and hard to read any fix for this172.163.177.17 14:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

If you have an account and the problem is only there when you are logged in then try going to Special:Preferences and change skin. PrimeHunter 15:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

If the problem appears when logged out, see if bypassing your cache sorts it. --ais523 16:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Listing the names of September 11 attacks victims

Can someone list all the names of September 11 victims so we can see who was killed that day. That day will never be forgotten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.27.179 (talk) 15:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a memorial site, but we link to memorial sites at 9/11#Memorials_2. PrimeHunter 16:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Creating content/conflict of interest

To whom it may concern. I uploaded a page explaining who I am as an artist with a short biography. In it I directed interested parties to visit my website to hear music. I've been to many pages on musicians & they all have way more informationi & full hot links to their specific websites. Why has my page been deleted when literally hundreds if not thousands of like pages already exist? Austin Donohue callofisis@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by AustinDonohue (talk • contribs) 15:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Austin. Sorry to hear you are frustrated by the deletion of your page. The difference you may not be recognizing with your page is that you created it for the purpose of promoting yourself. This violates our neutral point of view policy. If you are notable, someone else may create an article about you. Other musicians did not create their own articles, or they'd be violating the same policies.Leebo ^T/C 15:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Inserting an Image

I'd like to suggest adding an image to the definition of photogrammetric parallax. The image I have in mind can be found on Google Earth. If you enter "Hilton Hotel, Las Vegas, NV" in the search cell, then zoom in on the hotel you will be close to the image I have in mind. If you move to the west, across the street from the Hilton you will see the Turnberry Towers under construction. What's unique and exemplary about this image is the appearance of four towers, all appearing to lean in different directions, yet if you look at their shadows you can clearly see that the buildings are parallel and vertical on the z plane, though at angles to one another on the xy plane.

I don't know if Google would allow you to use their imagery for this example, but I think it would be a real eye-catcher for this definition.

Thanks for considering my suggestion.

Cheers, 67.77.148.135 16:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for that suggestion; it is quite insightful and would probably be a great encyclopedic addition. I have a suggestion, since I also don't know if a Google Earth version is feasible. Perhaps you or someone else could draw a version of it with simplified buildings, either on paper or with a computer program. That should solve the copyright problem. Leebo ^T/C 16:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

What is going on here

A long time ago, I created an account, and for a while, I haven't used it. But now when I put in my username and password, it gives me an error message. Have I been kicked out, or has my account been deleted? And if so, why? I just wish to get things cleared up. Also, I ended up creating a new acount with the same name, but then it gets me the same error message when I try to log back in. But now that I think about it, the e-mail address for my account has changed.

Signed formerly known as Neo Guyver September 11, 2007 at 11:43 AM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.50.68 (talk) 16:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

If you were User:Neo Guyver, you asked a question about getting a new email address. Did you ever do that? Did you ever change your password? Can you have a password sent to your current email? Leebo ^T/C 16:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

How to add to an existing biography

There is now avery short paragraph on a prominent person. Editing does not seem practical since what I have in mind will take many pages (life history, accomplishment, etc). I assume my offer is not considered a NEW article since the name is alrady in your data base. How do I approch this? Hummelswi 17:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome to edit the article. If what you're planning is a very large edit, you may want to draft up your revisions on a user subpage first, then copy the text into the article. Just make sure that any information you add is in accordance with all of our policies. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding footnotes to Wolf's Head Society article

I've attempted to add footnotes to the article with the additions editing completely the remainder of the article. I've added two footnotes to the section preceding History, but when attempting other footnotes, that section of the article displays a "preview" minus the original text. What keystrokes are necessary to add easily the footnotes.64.61.144.67 17:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)Sly111

I think you're looking for this help page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Citing a DVD commentary

Are there any Wikipedia guidelines for citing a DVD commentary? A Streetcar Named Marge uses the {{cite video}} template, but the results don't look right. We have to put too much information into the "title" field. Zagalejo^ 19:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps one of these can help you. --Thw1309 20:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't think any of those are really designed for audio commentaries. Does the MLA have any guidelines for situations like this? Zagalejo^ 21:50, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding a name to the "Fantasy Artists" catagory.

I can't figure out how to edit the catagories to add a name to the list of fantasy artists located there. When I clicked the edit button, there wasn't anything to edit. How do I add an artist name there?

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frivilousity (talk • contribs) 20:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Frivilousity. Category pages aren't static pages that can be edited manually. That page is compiled by the database from all articles that contain the text [[Category:Fantasy artists]]. To add a name to the list, the category must be added to an existing article. If no article exists, the name can't be added. Leebo ^T/C 20:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You have to add the category to the article. This means, you look for an article about the artist, you want to be included of if this article does not exist, you have to write it. At the end of the article, you write [[Category:Fantasy artists]]. This shows, that the article is part of this category. The category will appear at the end of the article and the article´s name in the list of this category. --Thw1309 20:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Also see: Help:Category. --Teratornis 20:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Point of interest

Hi, we have serious problem. Somebody keeps deleting our link, almost every day! Please can you block them or can you give us some advice, what can we do?

It is happening here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_of_interest#External_links Our link is: GPS-Support, Thousands Points of Interest (POI) and Speed Camera Alerts/Speed Traps records FOR FREE. STOP DELETE THIS LINK!!!

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.160.47.153 (talk) 20:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Such links are not acceptable on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor a venue for advertisements. When such links are inserted, vigilant editors remove them, and will continue to do so. That is not a problem, it is a feature of the project. --Orange Mike 20:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

help on everything

I wanted to add a person to the Oakland Chinatown notable persons category and wrote up what I thought was an article. It was tagged for deletion. Why? I don't know. This author and writer is a noted journalist and writer who is already noted several times in the Oakland, Chinatown pages and so I added him to the notable persons list. What's the problem with that. Go to his other sites yellowjournalist.com or oaklandchinatownhistory.org or CCH pages where he is mentioned as a grant recipient.

Also, I wasn't able to figure out how to make my entry look like the other ones. This was not an easy process. I was trying to add to the vital information of the area, but there was no real help along the way, and now I'm both frustrated and upset. Joyce Mende Wong 20:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

First of all, you'll have to check if the person satisfies the conditions listed in WP:BIO. If it satisfies it, start writing an article. If you don't know how to start, take a look here. Note that as a rule of thumb you don't have to re-create most of the good looking stuff ;), for istance, I think you were referring to the "infobox" many people have. To create it, we have what we call "templates". Learning how to use those is easy, just pick the code from the article of a person who already has that and fill properly the right fields (a template name is included in parenthesis like this -> {{ <template name> }}). Don't forget that biographies of living people have to be strongly supported by references, or are likely to be deleted. --Outspan [talk · contribs] 21:28, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

But the most intelligent way to learn how to use templates is, after you've identified the name of one, go to en.wikipedia.org/Template:<temp name>, edit the page. This way you see all the parameters you can put in there. Occasionally (why just occasionally and not always??) templates are documented directly in that page so you don't have to look at the code. -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 21:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Why just occasionally (do some templates have documentation)? Because Wikipedians are diverse. Some editors who create templates think documenting them is important, and some do not. However, anybody can document a template that isn't currently documented, so we would expect that over time, if the number of new templates does not increase to fast, eventually the people who like to document things will get around to most of the undocumented templates. (You could be one of them, of course.) --Teratornis 01:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I was actually thinking about it. It's not hard at all, you just have to look at the code and kind of list in the template page all possible parameters in a nice way, possibly providing a preview. Yet I have to figure out whether I can do it the way I want to and whether the results will be satisfying and make templates significantly more usable; if so I'll spend some time doing that ;) -- Outspan [talk · contribs] 11:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Note to Joyce Mende Wong: Wikipedia can be an upsetting place at first. It looks so easy to create new articles, but then you run into all these perplexing policies and guidelines you didn't know about. That's why it's usually better to spend a few months editing the existing articles that need work, before trying to create your own new articles. But of course Wikipedia makes it easy to create new articles, without making sure you know about all the pitfalls first. Anyway, you mentioned: "I wasn't able to figure out how to make my entry look like the other ones." Can you give us the titles of some of those "other ones"? Then we can advise you on how to make your article look like them. If those "other ones" are part of a WikiProject, that WikiProject might have a style guide you can follow. Also see: WP:LAYOUT and WP:INFOBOX. --Teratornis 01:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Have you gone through the tutorial? That's a good place to start.--Orange Mike 21:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

talk pages

Hi, I was trying to start a new article so I added a few lines but I was immediately warned and my content was deleted. However, someone asked to verify that I really did want to start an article to which I checked yes. How do I talk to that person, or any of you people for that matter? Vancinator17 20:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

If you go to a user's user page and click the "Discussion" tab, it will take you to their talk page. Is that what you wanted to know or were you looking for a specific person? Leebo ^T/C 20:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

The article Berens River School needs some expansion and reasons why it is notable. User:FisherQueen has replied on the talkpage and has changed the tag. Try and provide some reliable sources. Ask here again or on my talk page if you have problems adding information. Woodym555 22:03, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

request for poker editor

Hello,

I work with site that has a lot of poker content and I think some of the content on the site could be a valuable contribution to poker articles that appear on Wikipedia. As I am new to the process, I would like to contact the editor who manages the poker content to make sure our contribution is within the Wikipedia guidelines.

Thank you Kossflavour Kossflavour 21:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I would leave a note on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Poker. This is a collection of editors who have shown in interest in editing poker related articles. Hope this helps. Woodym555 22:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi, Kossflavour, and welcome to Wikipedia. I invite you to read the introduction to Wikipedia to gain a greater understanding of how the collaborative editing community works. There isn't a single individual in charge of a topic, but rather many editors working together on small parts of the articles. That said, WikiProject Poker might be a good place to start. Leebo ^T/C 22:08, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding a content box template

We are new to wikipedia, have read some of the issues about template, fustrating.

Is there some place we can find about inserting content box to a page.

Thank you Grandlarousse 22:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

To include a template to a page, type the name of the template in curly braces, {{like this}}. Most infoboxes, which I think is what you're referring to as a "content box", have additional instructions on how to use them on their pages, such as Template:Infobox Person. For more information, see Help:Template. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking at Seychelles community in EU, which needs a great deal of formatting, I think you're referring to tables when you say "content box". Does the info on tables help you? Leebo ^T/C 22:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Halo you both, Thank you for the advice. Leebo we did not mean table, still thank you we meant infobox content(hide) or content(hide) infobox. we are using british english. Can any of you guide us to ready made wikipedia template. Thank you !! (The wife is getting angry 5 hrs wasted already) 90.240.21.48 10:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This is what we have been trying as basic example.

Contents:	hide	1 History 2 Seychelles 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Even though you say you mean Infobox, it doesn't seem like that's what you mean. That thing you posted above is a table. Wait a minute... do you mean you want to create a custom Table of Contents? I'm not sure why you'd need to link to other pages in your table of contents though. Leebo ^T/C 13:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The table of contents (TOC) automatically appears if a page has more than three section headings. No template or other code is required. You can force a TOC to appear with fewer headings by placing __TOC__ (two underscores on each side). See more at Help:Section. PrimeHunter 13:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Seychelles community in EU has no TOC because there are no section headings in Wikipedia format. Just replace

----

European Origins

with

== European Origins ==

and so on (use more = for subsections). The TOC will appear automatically. PrimeHunter 14:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you it is working.

Grandlarousse 15:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Code

Is there somewhere I can get help with code? Im having some trouble with <div> divesions.
Ferdia O'Brien The Archiver, Reformatter And Vandal Watchman (Talk) 22:37, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

What about them is causing you trouble? Arky ^¡Hablar! 23:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Click Here. The problem is the third box in the first row, where its "leaking" out over the division, and I cant for the life of my figure out why.
Ferdia O'Brien The Archiver, Reformatter And Vandal Watchman (Talk) 02:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Any thoughts?
Ferdia O'Brien The Archiver, Reformatter And Vandal Watchman (Talk) 01:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Still blocked to upload a new article

This is what I get when trying to resolve this frustrating block:

"This IP address is that of an AOL web proxy which now sends X-Forwarded-For headers to the Wikimedia Foundation. No further edits should originate from this IP address. For more information, please see Wikipedia:AOL.

If you are an AOL user editing from this IP address, please email an administrator to have the problem corrected. Note that this IP address has been indefinitely blocked, so you will not be able to edit from this address."

A second message, from Orange Mike advises me that the UK Liberal Democrat Freinds of Palesine may not meet notability rules in other words it is not ;famous' enough.

Please be assured that as an offical Affiliated Organsiation of the UK Liberal Democrat Party (which is in Wikipedia) it is at the forefront of UK Middle East policy making.

And when i try to e-mail someone who has left me a message I try to e-mail them but am told i can;t because I'm not logged in - even though i am! I am going round in circles and can't find a resolution will someone please help.

Thank you

'patriote' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriote (talk • contribs) 22:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

You say "in other words it is not ;famous' enough". That's not accurate. Please review the notability criteria. You have to assert that a subject has been the focus of reliable sources. It says nothing about fame. Sorry I can't help with your other issues. Leebo ^T/C 23:09, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

== Editing Problem - Lalla Ward ==

Folks, weird one. I am trying to edit the Lalla Ward article, but none of my edits are saved. There are no edit conflicts or anything like that. I only see this problem with this one article -- I can edit others with no problem. Any ideas? Thanks! --ukexpat 16:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Moved to 9/12 - --ukexpat 17:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

September 12

Can't view images

When I use Wikipedia the pictures no longer appear. This is not the case for other Web sites. It just seemed to start happening when I go to Wikipedia. Am I the only one with this problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inklebarger (talk • contribs) 00:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You may not be the only one with this problem, but images are working fine for me (and probably for most people viewing Wikipedia just now). This problem comes up on the Help desk from time to time. It may be because you accidentally did something to tell your Web browser to stop loading images from Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Problems FAQ and Wikipedia:Browser notes. --Teratornis 01:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

For example, in Firefox you can select Tools | Options | Content, and manually block images from any Web site you specify. There may be some way to accidentally set that option for a site you are viewing (for example, Wikipedia) by bumping keys on your keyboard (or letting your cat walk across the keyboard, etc.). Check your browser settings to make sure you don't have images blocked for Wikipedia. --Teratornis 01:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

On some occasions, people have had problems because the way images are stored has resulted in some of them having URLs containing /ad/, which as you might guess can be interpreted by a content filter as being an image for an advertisement, which it then blocks. If there is an image that doesn't appear for you, can you right click on it, click on "Properties" and see if that is the case? Confusing Manifestation 02:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You can also try purging your cache. to fix it. --Hdt83 ^Chat 04:11, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

THANKS! I CHECKED THE OPTIONS ON FIREFOX AND THE IMAGES WERE BLOCKED. WEIRD. THANKS AGAIN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Inklebarger (talk • contribs) 00:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion Page Link Faulty (I think)

(This question is complex enough that I don't know how to search for an answer to it.)

I was on a page and I wanted to go to the Discussion Page for it, I clicked Discussion, and got the Talk page for a related page instead of the Talk Page for the page I was on in the first place.

Specifically, I was on the Spontaneous Combustion page, clicked Discussion, and got the "Talk:Spontaneous Combustion disambiguation page.

I realize the Spontaneous Combustion page and the Spontaneous Combustion disambiguation page are related, but aren't they supposed to have separate Talk pages? I'm not sure if there is a wrong link or if I'm doing something wrong. Help please.

Second question, since Talk page and Discussion page seem to be the same thing, why use two different names? Just curious. Thank you.

Wanderer57 00:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The Talk:Spontaneous combustion page is a redirect to Talk:Spontaneous combustion (disambiguation). To see the redirect page itself, click here. See Help:Redirect to learn how redirects work. As to why Talk:Spontaneous combustion is a redirect, check the page history. I can't make sense of the edit summary, so you would probably have to ask the user who did that (User:Clicketyclack). In my opinion, redirecting the talk page of an article that is itself not a redirect is, shall we say, undesirable because of the obvious potential for confusing people. It's pretty confusing just to write what's going on with that page.

As to your second question, as far as I have been able to tell, "talk page" and "discussion page" are the same thing (see: Help:Talk page), and if so, this would be an instance of what I call "synonym disease." Synonym disease is an ergonomic shortcoming, because it burdens the new user's short term memory with a meaningless detail: the new user must waste scarce mental resources determining that two different words mean exactly the same thing, rather than two different things as one would tend to expect. In a well-designed system, there is a one-to-one correspondence between terms and features (or functions). That is, for each "thing" in a well-designed system, there is one and only one unique term for it. I used to think that "page" and "article" constituted another instance of synonym disease, but then I learned that "page" and "article" are not the same: every article is a page, but not every page is an article. See WP:WIAA to learn about the difference. --Teratornis 01:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I should add that once a new user has become an experienced user, instances of synonym disease have moved into long term memory and therefore no longer seem to be a problem. This is one reason why experienced users of any technology (or language, social convention, etc.) don't generally get too upset about the various inconsistencies, exceptions, and other bits of complexity-inflating untidiness that make their knowledge harder for the novice to learn (look at the horrendously non-phonemic spelling in the English language not to mention all the irregular verbs, but do experienced English speakers want to clean up their inherited mess? No way). Since long term memory appears to be effectively unlimited, in contrast to short term memory which is exceedingly scarce, the functional difference between an experienced user and a novice is fundamental and vast. Experienced users typically exert the most influence on the further evolution of a system, and thus the system tends to evolve in directions that favor the experienced users (giving them more power and flexibility based on ever-increasing complexity) rather than the novices (making the system easier to comprehend using only short term memory). Check out the Editor's index for an interesting (or somewhat appalling, depending on your point of view) overview of the current state of Wikipedia's internal complexity. --Teratornis 15:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How to tag\mark a page suspected as containing commercial substance

Hello...

The page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quench , at the "External links" section contains a link referring to a commercial company, how if at all, should I mark the page as "suspected as containing commercial substance" ???

yar

Yar2 00:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Normally, you'd add {{cleanup-spam}} to the top of the article, but I'd just remove it, since the user who added it has already created an article about the company in the link that was deleted because it was promotional. I say be bold and take it out of the article. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 00:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

pre-empting an edit war

There are two (possibly three) users who are getting into an edit war in domesticated hedgehog over the external links. All three are new, so this is a matter of ignorance, not a true edit war. I've explained on their talk pages nicely and sternly that they must use Talk:Domesticated hedgehog to discuss the issue and come to consensus instead of repeatedly reverting each other. Because I feel that they are ignoring their talk pages, I do not think that this will help. What is the next step? I don't like the idea of blocking users because they simply don't know what to do. One was already blocked because I couldn't find any other way to get her to stop and read her talk page. Should the article be temporarily protected? -- kainaw™ 00:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You should probably go ahead and report this at the administrators' incident noticeboard. If you think the page ought to be protected, list it at requests for page protection. GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 08:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:EIW#Conten for links to pages that describe everything an editor could want to know about content disputes (other than how to win them, I suppose). --Teratornis 15:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Mumbai Suburban Rail Network

Hi,

I was wondering if you can send me a copy of the Mumbai Suburban Rail Network which you have in your pages titled Mumbai Suburban Railway as an image.

I tried to look at the same elsewhere but its not available and neither can I either copy or extract the image. You can alternatively send me the address/url of the image that can be downloadable or further delved into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgang (talk • contribs) 01:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It is an image. It is a Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) format image. Chances are, you are using a web browser that is not capable of viewing SVG images and/or you don't have a program that can open and view an SVG image. See the SVG article for a list of web browsers that support SVG and a list of applications that work with SVG images. -- kainaw™ 01:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It sounds to me like Pgang can view the image at Mumbai Suburban Railway but cannot save it to the harddisk. What is your browser? Try right clicking on the image and select a point called save image or something like that. Here is a direct link to the image in SVG format: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg. Here are direct links to the image in PNG format with different sizes: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg/180px-Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg.png (small), http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg/588px-Mumbai_suburban_rail_map.svg.png (large). Do you still have problems? PrimeHunter 02:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Images deleted

Several images along with the article Garlows have been deleted. I am the author and originator of all images and the article, Garlows. After learning that an external link in Garlow was inappropriate. I immediatly removed it. I don't understand why the images were deleted. All of the work is mine. Nothing copied from any where that is not mine. Can you fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemetianmotif (talk • contribs) 01:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Glancing at your talk page, it appears you didn't copyright tags to your pictures without that its impossible to know if you own the rights to the picture or took it from someone else. Wikipedia can not legally take pictures from other websites. According to your talk page you took photos from [11], without written permission, Wikipedia is not allowed to post such pictures. Hopefully that helps explain it better. Tell me if you're still confused. Thanks --Mr.crabby (Talk) 02:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Template that automatically adds to category

How do I make a template automatically add an article on whose talk page it has been transcluded to a category? A.Z. 03:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I'm assuming you're saying how to make a template that will add a category to a talk page when the template is transcluded? --Hirohisat ^Kiwi 04:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, this is not possible. You can have the template add the talk page to a category (lots and lots of templates do this), but having a template on a talk page affect the categorization of the article is entirely different. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

If you put the below coding into a template any pages with that template transcluded into it will automatically be added to the category.

<includeonly>[[Category:???????]]</includeonly>

There is currently no way to add a page to a category by adding something to the talk page. -Icewedge 04:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. That's what I was looking for, but I thought it would add the article to the category, not the talk page. A.Z. 04:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

ARC

ARC - Airport Regions Conference - is an association of European cities and regions that host major international airports. The common concern of ARC and its members is to balance the economic benefits generated by the airports against their environmental impact. The ARC brings together a wide range of expertise at the interface of air transport and local and regional policies. ARC represents more than 30 European regions and cities with about 100 million citizens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gunnel R (talk • contribs) 08:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi Gunnel. The article you are talking about is Airport Regions Conference - what exactly do you need help with? Pedro |  Chat  08:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I accidently ruined a page

Hi guys, i was trying to add a list of #1 contenders to the smackdown page (as in whos challenging the champion for the title) and the whole pages layout has gone crazy. I dont know how to fix it. The champion bit is empty and they are in the commentator section. Please help me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Sorry forgot to sign it. My user is naylehj. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You did not close the wikitable with |}. I've fixed it. See Help:Table for more information about how to properly format Wikitables. Hope that helps! (And P.S. You should sign using four tildes, ( ~ ) so it directs to your page) ^Ariel♥Gold 10:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like I might have beat you to the punch, Ariel. :) GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 10:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC) *sticks foot into mouth* GlassCobra (talk • contribs) 10:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Heaps! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naylehj (talk • contribs) 10:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Removed leading space, indenting here doesn't work, to indent, type a colon ( : ), and please remember to sign using the signature picture on the edit toolbar, or four tildes ( ~ ) or see your talk page, Sinebot has probably been to visit by now, lol. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 10:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

net exam form

How to download NET Entrance Form —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.93.101 (talk) 11:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. --Pekaje 11:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Adding Army Officers

I am interested in adding several Army officers to wikipedia. I have a user name and password and understand how to edit but not how to create a new page. Also, the officers I intend to add are JAG's who worked on high profile cases. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markjohnson434 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome, Markjohnson434!! Please review Wikipedia's core policies, and see the following for help on how to create articles: Cite your sources, Manual of style, Layout guide, Wikipedia's copyright policy, First article, Article development and How to edit, and remember to sign your talk page comments with four tildes ( ~ ) so others know who you are! Happy editing! ^Ariel♥Gold 13:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

See also Help:Starting a new page. PrimeHunter 13:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Jason Feinberg

Talk:Jason Feinberg is simply not a discussion; it is a copy of the article itself. I could blank it or archive it and then blank it. I'm just not sure what is the right thing to do. For future reference, is the Help Desk the right place to ask this question? If I see something like this should I report it here or just go ahead and make a change? Sbowers3 12:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Be bold! - just delete the superfluous text, explaining what you are doing in your summary. --Orange Mike 12:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Tal for links to (what should be) all the help pages, guidelines, and essays about talk pages. --Teratornis 15:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Texas Holdem

I was recently involved in a hand that is being disputed. A flush was on the table ace high. In the showdown the other perrson did not have nay cards to that flush and I had a queen in my hand to that flush. The other individual claims the pot should be split. I claim as with any poker it is the best five cards and my flush was therfore higher because my second card in that very flush was higher that his. Am I correct? Please help!!! Marty P. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.156.164 (talk) 15:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This board is for Wikipedia-related problems. I suggest you take this to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous, where Wikipedians try to help people with real-life problems, such as, well, poker. x42bn6 Talk Mess 15:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned, this is not the right place to ask. However, take a look at this. Your flush was clearly higher, so you're the pot winner. Texas Hold'em (which I'm assuming is what you were playing) uses the same definition of a flush as other Poker variants. --Pekaje 17:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing Problem - Lalla Ward

Folks, weird one. I am trying to edit the Lalla Ward article, but none of my edits are saved. There are no edit conflicts or anything like that. I only see this problem with this one article -- I can edit others with no problem. Any ideas? Thanks! --ukexpat 16:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you have been vandalising too much? --Already Daatstict 17:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Already Daatstict, that's not appropriate, please don't make comments like that. Ukexpat, there seems to have been an error, since you have no edits to Lalla Ward in your contribution history. Does the "show preview" button work with that article? 17:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

No, the "show preview" does not work for me on that article. Thanks. --ukexpat 21:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Permanent softblock possible by IP-owner's request?

I had a message from a teacher interested in preventing vandalism from his school's (single) IP, but who wants to preserve access for teachers and non-vandalizing students. Is it possible to have the IP softblocked indefinitely at the IP-owner's request, so that only logged-in users can edit from this IP? If so, what would be the process? --Rrburke^(talk) 17:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

They would probably have to send an email to OTRS. I don't think a talk page message is official enough. Probably the email address at the bottom of this page. Also, one teacher may not be enough. They may need an email from a school administrator. Mr.Z-man 17:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... passed the info along. --Rrburke^(talk) 19:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I have been insulted

User:Leebo and User:AngelOfSadness have been teaming up to leave insulting messeges on my talk page. Me, who has only made an innocent test, has to pay the price. Please destroy their accounts. Thank You. --Already Daatstict 18:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The messages they left on your talk page are hardly attacks. They are civil pointers to direct you to take note of our policy on "no personal attacks", which I again point out to you. Please remember to assume good faith on the part of other editors and be civil and polite in your discussions with others. Nobody here is out to insult you, we're really quite a friendly bunch once you get to know us. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

They have not insulted you. They have warned you against posting further inappropriate messages, and having reviewed your contributions, you should have received more warnings. Thus far your account has been used only for disruptiive edits. Consider yourself further warned now. --Fuhghettaboutit 18:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

For those playing along at home, the "one innocent test" was this. Raymond Arritt 18:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Are plagiaristic entries and/or users who have been found to have plagiarized to be reported? If so, to whom do I report such things? Thanks, wingman358 18:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If an article is a copyright violation (plagiarism nearly always is), place {{db-copyvio}} at the top of the article, to let administrators know about it; it will add the article to a list of articles to be deleted by administrators. If the article is a copy of a web page, it helps if you use the template as {{db-copyvio|url=the URL of the web page}}, so it's easier for admins to check.

If (in exceptional cases) the article is plagiarised but not a copyright violation (for instance, it was copied from a public-domain source), you can fix the problem by simply adding the source to the article.

It helps to notify users who upload copyright violations (instructions for this are on the {{db-copyvio}} template itself); if a user persists in uploading copyright violations, you can give them a further warning ({{subst:uw-copyright}}), and if that fails use WP:AIV to report them to administrators.

Hope that helps! --ais523 18:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I just found the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Plagiarism Thanks for your speedy assistance as well! wingman358 18:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

That's interesting; the link Wikipedia:Plagiarism redirects to Wikipedia:Copyright problems, but that page doesn't actually address the case where there has been plagiarism without copyright infringement.

If you do detect plagiarism, it may be unintentional (particularly if the editor has a prior history of good, original, properly-cited contributions). A polite reminder to always cite one's sources may be all that's necessary. If an editor appears to have a history of plagiarism and hasn't responded (or has responded poorly) to a polite request, then you might have to ask an admin to step in. WP:AN/I is a good place for this.

Try to keep in mind that sometimes our plagiarists are young people who just haven't ever received proper instruction in source attribution. Polite but firm correction is often all that's necessary. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 19:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've added a section – at Wikipedia:Copyright problems#Plagiarism that doesn't infringe copyright – that addresses plagiarism as distinct from copyright infringement. I encourage any policy wonks in the audience to have at it. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Cannot Remain Signed/Logged In

Please help. I am a new member of this community and I am unable to remain signed in. Every time I clink a link/move to another section of the site, I am no longer signed in. Also, I am unable to create a user page, access the preferences for my account, or post comments as a member. Please advise me on how to correct this problem.

Thank you, 67.142.130.14 18:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC) Nelley McGhie

There are two common reasons why this might be happening:

1. You might not have cookies enabled in your browser; you need to enable them for Wikipedia, or the servers can't keep track of your logged-in status.
2. Some ISPs (particularly satellite ISPs) have problems keeping users logged-in; to solve this and other login problems, try using the following alternative login link: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin. (Unfortunately, it's slower than the normal one.)

Hope that helps! --ais523 18:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

dialogue with editors

recently, i made a minor change to a wikipedia article. the change was well-intentioned and was in the interests of accuracy, as i perceived it. an editor immediately sent me a note stating that: the change had been reversed and i should present firm evidence before introducing such a change. i have no argument to present against this but, alternatively, i have not found a means of establishing a dialogue with an editor so as to negotiate such matters. how do i do this? scylla. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce Condell (talk • contribs) 18:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

You can contact an editor by adding a new section to their User talk: page; for instance, if you wanted to send a message to me, you could do so by editing User talk:ais523. You can use the '+' tab at the top of such pages to more easily add a new section. As for why the change was reverted, asking the user who reverted you will give the best information, but at a guess it may have been because you edited a biography of a living person, but did not give a source for statements made in the edit; sourcing is particularly important for such articles, although it should also be used in others. (That last sentence is just a guess, I don't know about the details of the situation and so might be completely wrong.) --ais523 19:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

External Linking

One of my users posted relevant links to certain topics regarding basketball in particular the Detroit Pistons only to receive warnings about being blacklisted.

I respect your decision of removing the links if they were a violation of your policy but they do not appear to be violations after reading your policy. This is from your What To Link Section:

What should be linked

1. Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site if any.

2. An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply.

3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons.

4. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews.

I do not see how links to very accurate and insightful Detroit Pistons statistics is considered. We have been on the Detroit Pistons page since 2006 without any issues until now. We do not consider our statistics spam, but very insightful and informal.

If anything the need4sheed.com link on the Detroit Pistons entry ie "the #1 Pistons Website on the Internet" that is spam.

Thank you for your time —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.181.102.85 (talk) 19:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

That link was removed because it was a redirection. I restored it but with the destination url. To see an explanation of any edit you can click the History tab at the top of the page, e.g. the Detroit Pistons page, then read the edit summary. In the case above, the editor who removed your link eplained that it violated the WP:EL policy regarding redirections. So the problem wasn't the content of the link; it was the format of the link. I don't think anyone will object to that external link now that it is in the proper format. Sbowers3 03:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Clearing past search topics

Hello! I love WP! I donated $ last year and will donate again. Thanks! Here is my question: How do you clear old searches? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.67.169 (talk) 19:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not keep searches you have made. You may be referring to your browser's autocomplete or suggestion fuctions. Leebo ^T/C 19:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If you use Firefox, then go to Tools -> Options... -> Privacy. In "Private Data", choose settings and check next to "Saved Form Information". Click OK, then Clear Now. If you use IE, then best of luck to you. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

name of restaurant

dear mr./mrs.,

Is it allowed to add the name of a specific restaurant to the wikipedia site?

I would like to add the Erawan Thai restaurant to the description of Erawan with a small description of the restaurant like I see with for instance Mcdonalds or the Hard Rock café.

friendly regards,

R. Loos 200.61.9.66 19:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.61.9.66 (talk) 19:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This could be considered a form of advertising. Is there anything which makes the restaurant notable within Erawan? Our rules are pretty stringent about that sort of thing. --Orange Mike 19:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Further: I am sorry, I thought Erawan was the name of a town. Our rules about companies require that a business be notable, and I doubt that the restaurant you mention would qualify. The companies you named are multibillion-dollar corporations with worldwide presence and fame. --Orange Mike 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

NEW TO THE SITE

THIS IS MY FIRST VISIT TO WIKIPEDIA. I WAS GIVEN THE FOLLOWING INFO TO LOOK UP: "451 SO 2D 480" THE SOUTHERN REPORTER SECOND CAME UP ON THIS SITE. I DONT KNOW HOW TO FIND THE PARTICULAR ARTICLE WITHIN THE SEARCH. CAN YOU HELP? THANK YOU. PIPER PALMER <email removed for your security> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.95.245 (talk) 19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't have an article by that name, and never have. I'm not sure what you're looking for based on that information, either. I'd recommend you turn off your caps lock and ask at the Reference Desk. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

This is a legal ruling as a Google search shows: [12]. A college library or a law library in Florida where your IP address indicates you are, might have the Southern Reporter, to which this info refers. It includes published appellate court decisions. Lawyers often have online access to such cases. Wikipedia and its editors are absolutely not allowed to give any legal advice, but there may be general discussion of legal subjects at the Reference Desk and many important legal cases or the subjects they dealt with are covered by various articles. Edison 20:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

July 30 archive says August 5

I clicked on the July 30 archive (I had no time to read Help Desk answers during the whole month of July, so I'm working my way back now), and it said August 5. Could someone fix this so it won't be confusing? Vchimpanzee 20:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Someone went behind the bot and copy-pasted from another archive. WODUP 21:19, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

my signature

my signature is not coming up linked?--LAZY 1L 20:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

In your preferences, uncheck raw signature. WODUP 21:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks!--LAZY 1L 21:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How can I tag an article with no references/sources?

There are several articles which do not have any reference sites/sources. How can I tag that article so that the creator/other wikipedians can help out and cite references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.38.51.134 (talk) 23:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Use {{Unreferenced}}. Cheers, Arky ^¡Hablar! 23:27, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Wolfe City, Texas History

To whom it concerns

Yesterday I entered more Wolfe City, Texas Histories, but they have been deleted for some reason. Can you tell me what I did wrong or what happen to the articles? Can you tell me how I should be entering the articles? Also if I can enter the information, how can I enter photos?

Thanks John W. Duncan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnwdfarm (talk • contribs) 19:25, 12 September 2007

Well, first off, you shouldn't have included your personal information into a Wikipedia article. That's just asking for Spam and possible Identity theft.

Your edit was reverted by an automatic program that attempts to prevent vandalism to our articles. You added such a large amount of information at a time that the program thought you were trying to vandalize the Wolfe City article.

Looks like your edit was not vandalism, however, you should read our policy on verifiability. You did not cite a source for any of the information you added to the article, making it impossible for anyone else to verify the information is true. I'd suggest doing any additions in smaller sections and be sure to cite sources so we can read for ourselves where the facts come from. -- Kesh 00:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Not Vandalism

I have updated a article here about Newberry College and the conduct of its last president. Each charge against the president if based off of articles in two newspapers. However someone at the college continues to remove the articles. They are the one censoring the truth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsoward1967 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The only edit of your account is making the above post. I guess you are one of the IP's who has edited Newberry College. Is it The State (newspaper) which is mentioned in Newberry College#Setzler Administration? It seems a lot to write about something from 1992, and I removed some unsourced allegations. Basing accusations on "it was well known to the students at the time that ..." is a gross violation of Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons (he appears to be alive). Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Blocking and do not readd it without a reliable source. PrimeHunter 01:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

September 13

how do i create a wiki

how do i —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leafy0524 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

If you mean how to create a wiki at your own website unrelated to Wikipedia then one possibility is to use the MediaWiki software (which Wikipedia also uses).

The following is if you want to create a new article here at Wikipedia.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 00:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Level 3 Headlines

Hello. When are level 3 headlines appropriate? Sometimes, I see a level 3 headline directly below the Contents box. Is it supposed to be like that? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 01:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Usually, headlines are used in descending order. However, some people choose to use particular ones depending on their aesthetic appeal. As long as you use lower levels beneath your headlines (eg. Level 4 underneath Level 3), the page will still function correctly. GlassCobra 01:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Template

Can someone please help me fix this template.Thanks,Thedjatclubrock :) ^(T/C) 01:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC). User:Thedjatclubrock/user blocked

Fixed it, you were missing a curly bracket in your #ifeq:, which I ended up replacing with a #if: anyway for easier use. Remember that when you call a template in a namespace other than "Template:", you MUST specify the namespace and any parent pages. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Help with complex template

Hello all. I've been working with two other users on a complex template for a while, and we've reached the point where we've given up. The template is a proposed ANI collapsible archival template that needs to appear on the ANI page, but not on the ANI IncidentArchive pages. So far, we've made the templates User:Arknascar44/Ani-top and User:Arknascar44/Ani-bottom, which transclude (although apparently not) the templates User:Arknascar44/ANI top and User:Arknascar44/ANI bottom onto ANI only, and no other subpages. Any help getting the templates to properly transclude would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Arky ^¡Hablar! 02:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I tried, but I couldn't get the template to know that it was on the right page. Maybe someone who can program conditional templates can help. I've failed you. WODUP 05:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

It appears the apostrophe in the title was being output by {{PAGENAME}} as ' instead of just ', so the comparison was failing. I've replaced it with {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} and adjusted the comparison text accordingly. Anomie 15:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

fonts for indian words

where do i get fonts to view indian words. thanks mark.121.217.227.38 03:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

"Indian" is not a language, as India has several official languages. Do you mean Hindi in Devanāgarī script? Or do you mean a Native American language? Check the Editor's index for information about various languages, for example: Help:Sinhala Font Guide (which I guess is a language for Sri Lanka, not exactly India but somewhat nearby), Help:Multilingual support, and Wikipedia:Language recognition chart. The Devanāgarī article has external links which may help you locate fonts. You may also ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject India. --Teratornis 03:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to change my username?

I hadn't realized my username would be posted, and, as such, included my surname in my username. for privacy reasons, can i change this?fritz 05:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

See WP:CHU. WODUP 05:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks!! embarrassed for not finding it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fgheen (talk • contribs) 05:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

word description

Hello, i'm hoping someone can assist me in finding a word to describe a few words. Im after a word to describe.......determination,strength,wisdom and the same again for success,health,happiness. I'm making a design for a tatoo so if there is an english word or a latin i would very much appreciate your help, thankyou. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bakedog (talk • contribs) 05:45, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, but you might try at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. WODUP 05:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Colton-Pierrepont Central School

Hey, would someone mind taking a look at this article? The infobox is quite messed up, and, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to fix it. Thanks! GlassCobra 05:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I've done a few school infoboxes and ran into the same problem. The template links the country and puts in the little flag, so adding double brackets messes that up. WODUP 06:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, okay. Thanks! GlassCobra 06:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I deltete my profile or edit my username?

I mispelled my username when creating my account. How do I deltete my profile or edit my username? I wasn't able to this in "my preferences"

Thank you, Seanpcurto 06:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

We don't really have profiles here, just user pages. To change your username, you can visit WP:CHU, or, since your only edits were a sandbox edit and your question above, you can just create the account you want and abandon the one you've got now. WODUP 06:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Official Web site of the Malankara Orthodox Church (Indian Orthodox Church)

The official web site of the Malankara Orthodox Church is www.malankaraorthodoxchurch.in and not www.orthodoxchurch.in. Please make necessary changes. Fr. Mathew Koshy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.88.230.138 (talk) 06:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --Pekaje 08:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing pages

how do i edit a wikipedia page?Jas007n 08:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC) Jas007n

Click on the "edit this page" tab at the top, edit the contents of the article, and click the "Save page" button. You should also preview your changes first (by clicking "Show preview"). Wikipedia:How to edit a page has more information. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 08:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

And please write a short edit summary (over save page)--Thw1309 08:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

waterbugs

why do they like water drains68.48.0.34 08:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC).

This help-page is for asking Wikipedia-related questions only. Please try the Reference desk as stated at the top of this page. Cheers, Lradrama 08:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

HELP

HOW CAN I DOWNLOAD THE CURRENT EVENTS? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.247.146.216 (talk) 10:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. The events are decided as they come: Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. To download them all, you'd have to go through each day and save the page - but something tells me this is not what you want to do. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

help!!

Hi... im only a beginner and dont rely no how to create a page proparly.. i am a huge fan of australian womens goalkeeper melissa barbieri...and created a page as no1 had but didnt do it to well...i was wondering if mayby u cud re-edit it for me to make it look more of a wikipedia touch...please keep the information if u can...and i dont no how to put a picture on so cud u mayby fix it up... thnx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zxcvbnm1991 (talk • contribs) 10:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Since she is Australia's National Women's Goalie with several games to her credit, I removed the notability template that was placed on the article as well as the tag that said it didn't have any references. It did, they were just not named "references". - Mgm|^(talk) 11:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

querry

sir,

where did i get the nifty level in this site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.138.32 (talk) 11:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Hi. Could you clarify what you mean by "nifty" ? Pedro |  Chat  11:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I am being threatened

The following user is threatening me,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Amarrg

I am new to wikipedia, I cant understand what he is saying, How can I solve this, Really I feel very bad about this user. regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by IndiWorld (talk • contribs) 12:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC) --IndiWorld 12:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)_{Subscript text}--IndiWorld 12:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

• Based on your talk page, you appear to be in an edit war. Not logging in to make it look like you're someone else to circumvent the three-revert rule is not a good idea. If you didn't do that, just make sure you're logged in - that's all he's asking you to do. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

User:IndiWorld is not as innocent as he claims to be above. When I asked him to stop editing using his ip, he denied that the ip belonged to him and later agreed that the ip did belong to him. In the middle, he engaged in a unwarranted personal attack on me continuously lying that the ip did not belong to him. The conversation can be seen here. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 12:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

project report

i need projct on Ip Routing and 2nd is ROUTER FUNDAMETALS; for help me how can get it esaily.221.128.178.100 12:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)nilesh

I'm not sure what you are asking, but see Router. That said, this is for help editing Wikipedia as opposed to help with real-life questions and you may get better responses at the Computing Reference desk. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

editing

how do i edit a page? where is the link located —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistermagik92 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Up near the top, in bold. It should read, edit this page. See also How to edit a page. If the link is not available, but is available as "view source", then the page is protected. x42bn6 Talk Mess 12:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Proof rreading

Is there a tag to put on an article to request proof reading? {{{wikify}}} and {{{cleanup}}} seem too strong. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Would {{copyedit}} suit? It's specifically for "grammar, style, cohesion, tone and/or spelling". :) --Moonriddengirl 14:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

That's the one. Thanks Moonridden girl. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 14:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

{{cleanup}} is actually probably also okay. According to Wikipedia:Cleanup proof reading is one of the specific things the clean up task force will cover. If you really don't like that tag then go with the advice from Moonriddengirl. Pedro |  Chat  14:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Page move

I want to do a slightly complicated page move and I am worried about preserving page history (as I know this is important). Basically, there is an article ASIL Lyssi, a football team, but the creator wrote content about a player for that team, Pari Pantazopoulos. They also created a page Pari pantazopoulos about that person with the same content. I cleaned up ASIL Lyssi and added refs. Now I want to:

1. Move the content of ASIL Lyssi to Pari pantazopoulos.
2. Move (rename) Pari pantazopoulos to Pari Pantazopoulos to capitalise the name.
3. Write a stub about the football team for ASIL Lyssi

Can I do this without causing problems? I have a vague notion that each editor's contributions must be preserved for the GFDL, but I'm not sure if moving stuff this way will do that. Thanks --Kateshortforbob 14:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

You should be able to do this:

1. Move ASIL Lyssi to Pari Pantazopoulos;
2. Make Pari pantazopoulos a redirect to Pari Pantazopoulos;
3. Edit ASIL Lyssi so it's a stub rather than a redirect to Pari Pantazopoulos.

Without causing any problems. Does anyone else agree? To further answer your question, your first point involves moving just the content of ASIL Lyssi, which would leave the history behind. That would be the problem, but it's actually solved by the non-existence of the desired title (Pari Pantazopoulos). Leebo ^T/C 14:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Great! I think I shall be bold and do it before I go home. Thanks for sorting me out - had a feeling I wasn't quite right! --Kateshortforbob 15:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

external links

How can I get an external link to my site from yours? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.165.181 (talk) 15:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

No. See WP:SPAM, and WP:EL.--Max Talk (+) 15:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia:External links for more information. If your site contains (for example) further reading that would be relevant to an article but might overburden the article itself there wouldbe no problem. However if (again for example) you sold televisions and wanted to put the link into the wikipedia television article that would be considered spam. Do check the guidelines first before placing the link. If you think it's okay and need help inserting it please pop back to the helpdesk or ask at my talk page. Pedro |  Chat  15:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Wide Landing Page

Hi all,

This is something that has been bugging me for ages, why is the main landing page for wikipedia (ie. http://www.wikipedia.org/) so wide? It just looks like blanks space.

Thanks Doyley 15:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe someone can help you at the reference desk. This page is for getting help with using Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 15:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

poker editor contact request

Hello, I would like to contact the editor who manages poker related content. Can you please provide me with an email address or other contact information. I work with a number of poker content websites that offers a wide range of articles that are exclusively written on these sits and I think these articles might be a valuable contribution to the poker articles on Wikipedia. I would like to contact your poker editor so I can figure out what the next steps are.

Thank you, Kossflavour —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kossflavour (talk • contribs) 16:14, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Your previous question on this has already been answered. That said, I'm going to also leave that link on your talk page. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim dagnabbit!)} 16:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

translation

i want to translate my English poem to the other language, what should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.39.237 (talk) 16:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

You might be looking for Wikipedia:Translation, but they deal mainly with translating articles to and from other languages. If this is something of your own creation that isn't a part of Wikipedia, I'm not sure we can help you out much. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Elusive template

I am certain there is a template which shows there is a current conflict\dispute\issue that needs to be resolved. Why can't i find it? Simply south 16:34, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

See Category:Dispute templates. PrimeHunter 16:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Whilst useful, i am not sure that is quite what i meant. It is in discussion on a WikiProject over WP:EL on a page. Simply south 16:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're looking for, precisely. :) Are you asking about means to attract assistance, as with requests for comment? --Moonriddengirl 18:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Once again: nl:Wikipedia

Hi,

There are now seven people on nl:Wikipedia, including four moderators, who occupy themselves with, among other things, messing up my talk page archive. Any attempt on my part to correct this is met with a block, each time longer than the last. They have also nominated part of my archive for deletion.

What can I do?

Regards, Guido den Broeder 17:58, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid we can't help you much - we can only offer assistance with the English Wikipedia, as I believe you've been told in the past. I'd recommend seeking some form of Dispute Resolution over there; if they have something similar to requests for comment on nl:, I'd recommend that due to the regularity of these problems. We cannot offer you any direct assistance or even accurately point you in the right direction, though, sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I have already tried all options within nl:Wikipedia but got no response. Is there no higher Wikipedia authority, or do I need to start legal procedures? Guido den Broeder 18:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Legal procedures? What on earth for? I don't know how things go over at nl, but here on en.wiki, the minute someone mentions such things, they pretty much get written off as a kook or troublemaker. I would suggest you stop doing whatever it is that's getting you blocked. Friday (talk) 18:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Your description of the situation casts administrators at the nl.Wikipedia as abusive and vengeful. The fact that you would come here, where we can't get a good impression of the whole situation and they can't explain themselves, makes me question whether your story is the full story or not. Such a thing would not happen here without responsible admins correcting the problem. There is no legal recourse for you to take, and editors making legal threats are blocked here at en.Wikipedia. Leebo ^T/C 18:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Friday, you are basically telling me that I should allow other people to do with my archive as they please.

Leebo, please respect the principle of assuming good faith. Guido den Broeder 18:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I told you I'm having a hard time believing your story as you are telling it and I want to hear the whole story (impossible, when we can't ask those accused to come here). Legal threats are taken seriously, so don't make them. WP:AGF doesn't prevent me from trying to hear all sides of a story. Leebo ^T/C 19:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Editors wanting to initiate legal procedures are prohibited from editing until such time that any legal procedures are resolved. That said, Dutch Wikipedia is completely seperate from English Wikipedia, there's nothing any of us could do anyhow. WilyD 19:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the situation, because I don't speak the language. But, you do not own pages on wikipedia- even your user talk pages. If you wish to have complete editorial control, you can do this on your own website, but not on Wikipedia. If you wish to explain what the actual dispute is, perhaps some of us here can give you our opinions on the situation, but there's very little we can do about the decision making process on another wiki. This may be better done on your user talk page than here on the help desk. Friday (talk) 19:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

From my admittedly limited understanding of Dutch, it seems you were blocked for editing the comments of others in your talk page archives. No matter how trivial, it's extremely bad form. It could also very well be a blockable offense. Stop doing it, and you'll stop getting blocked. --Pekaje 19:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

All I did myself was correcting the typo 'Guide', with written permission from the user who made the typo. However, that was not my question. I was asking about what procedures are available to me to prevent others from editing or even deleting my archive - especially since it is evidence in a running ArbCom procedure. Guido den Broeder 19:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

You're not giving us details about how they're editing it or why they want to delete it, so there's no advice we can give you. Leebo ^T/C 19:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

poker editor contact request

Hi. Thanks for the response - didn't realize my question had been answered earlier. Woodym555 suggested that I should leave a note on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Poker. I went to that page but I couldn't find the talk page....sorry if I've missed something obvious but can you tell me how I can contact one of the editors in the WikiProject Poker. Thank you, J Bradley 18:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Here you go: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poker. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

In the future, you can always access the talk page of a page or project by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 18:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Deleted content in Muscatine, Iowa

A while ago, I added some content to the article about Muscatine, Iowa. It was a couple of paragraphs about a native of the town who was an historical character. I researched this person carefully for a college paper and reviewed the historical record before entering the data. I can substantiate the content that I added. Now I find it has been deleted and I would like to know why. Furthermore, there is a link that purports to go to a biography of that person but it goes to someone of the same name who has no relation. This is very frustrating. Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.108.197.210 (talk) 18:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

What is the name of the individual in question at Muscatine, Iowa? Do you have any idea when you might have made the change? I'll be glad to see if I can help you figure out why it might have been removed, but the only contribution showing for your current IP is the edit today. It's difficult to figure out precisely when your edit might have been removed without more information. :) --Moonriddengirl 18:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Show / Hide

Recently, I've noticed that anything with a show/hide feature, like navigation boxes, is defaulting to "hide" every time. That seems to be new. Is it? Also is there some way I can change it? I'm sure I'd much prefer they all showed with an option for me to hide them. AndyJones 19:05, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:NavFrame describes this function, but I have trouble understanding how they work myself, so I can't really explain beyond that. Leebo ^T/C 19:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle

How do I use it? I've installed + cofigured it, but how do I use it? I couldn't find any documentation, or I wouldn't be asking.

—Ignatzmice^talk_contribs 19:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

How oo I change my username

I have tried un-successfully to change my username from Shandick to Shandrick, because I made a typing error.

How do I change my username?

Mike Shandrick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shandick (talk • contribs) 19:16, September 13, 2007

See Wikipedia:Changing username. Leebo ^T/C 19:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I see you've already made a request at Wikipedia:Changing username#Shandick → Shandrick. You weren't unsuccessful, you simply haven't given the bureaucrats enough time to make the change. Leebo ^T/C 19:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

How do I archive stuff, and how do I find subpages of my user page?

What's the procedure for archiving User talk page material?

I have one major subpage of my user page, called Timothy_Perper/Sandbox, but I had another. Now I simply can't find it. How do I locate and list those subpages?

Thanks.

Timothy Perper 19:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Archiving instructions can be found at Wikipedia:Archiving talk pages. It might be helpful for you to keep a link on your user page to your subpage, which you can do by putting double brackets around it. If you know the name, just go to it: User:Timothy Perper/Sandbox. Leebo ^T/C 19:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

See here. --Outspan [talk · contribs] 19:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)