User talk:Liz

It's winter!

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Wise words given to a blocked editor: This absolute adherence to the idea that your interpretation of the rules is paramount
and everyone else's input is merely an obstacle to overcome is an accurate summary of how you ended up in this position.
Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 4 August 2013
Well said!Liz ^{Read! Talk!}

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Email about event tomorrow

I sent you an email about a local wiki event tomorrow, feel free to write me if you have any questions.--Pharos (talk) 21:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Pharos, you got my email in January that I no longer live near NYC, right? Why did you put this note at the top of the page instead of the bottom?!

Good luck with your wiki event, I'm sure it will be a success. I miss attending them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:48, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I posted on mobile as I was in a rush, which gave the weird positioning. There was event near you yesterday, should have given you more notice. I can help you if you'd like to follow up with the event organizers and other local Wikipedians.--Pharos (talk) 18:06, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Talk:XLispStat

Hi. You deleted this page with reason G8 (Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page). But, I don't think that reason applies any more. Do you think you could undelete it? Thank you. SJK (talk) 03:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Sure, SJK, no problem. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! SJK (talk) 04:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year!

Hello Liz: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

Have a grand 2019, CAPTAIN RAJU! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!

Hello and Happy New Year!

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Categories

Hi, Liz

You nominated two categories, which were used in Gyem Dorji.— Bukhari (Talk!) 11:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

I haven't nominated any categories for CfD for a week, BukhariSaeed. I might have removed or added a category though. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:51, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Gwin poeth sbeislyd i chi ...

... gan yr hen Gymro; rwy'n gobeithio eich bod wedi cael gwyliau Nadolig gwych ac rwy'n dymuno 2019 heddychlon i chi! That is Welsh and translates to: Spicy hot wine for you from the old Welshman; I hope you have had a great Christmas holiday and I wish you a peaceful 2019! Thank you for your excellent work on the 'pedia. Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 16:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Spicy hot wine sounds great on a cold January day, Gareth Griffith-Jones. I hope you are having a great New Year's Day! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2019

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).

Administrator changes

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Orangemike

BorgQueen • Davidruben • Ocee • Revolving Bugbear • Theda • There'sNoTime • Timc • Tijuana Brass • Tristessa de St Ange

Bureaucrat changes

Addshore

CheckUser changes

Joe Roe • SilkTork

Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Oversight changes

AGK • Joe Roe • SilkTork

Euryalus • Newyorkbrad • There'sNoTime

Guideline and policy news

• There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD#G6:

1. G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
2. R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
3. G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.

• The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
• Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.

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• Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:

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2019

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda. I wish you a wonderful 2019! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:53, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

C1

Hi Liz

Seven hours after I created Category:Iranian expatriate sportspeople by country of residence as part of a series, you tagged it[1] as WP:C1.

It will be populated today, and then the tag will need to be removed.

Is such prompt tagging really a good use of anyone's time? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Well, I work off of the Database Report for Empty Categories, BrownHairedGirl, and so far the main problems that have arisen have been with 2019 categories that have not been populated yet. I'll remove the misplaced tag from yesterday. My apologies. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:12, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Liz

The database report is a good place to start. However, I suggest not tagging cats which are less than a day or two old. Plenty of editors create cats in batches, and then populate them later.

Also, if the newly-created 2019 cats are part of an established series, then they will usually be populated soon. So again, no point in tagging them. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, BrownHairedGirl, I appreciate your advice. When I came back to edit WP in October, I might have done so with too much enthusiasm. That can happen when I find a task that is backlogged (there were over 1200 listed empty categories). It's all caught up now but I'll keep your advice in mind. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah. I totally understand. Clearing big backlogs requires fast work, making snap decisions.

When I started work on Special:WantedCategories, it had a backlog of (IIRC) about 30,000. The only way to do it was a blitz: work v fast, with a team of us at it. It took a few months ... and once it was all done, we could relax and scrutinise a bit more and leave nicer notes for editors etc. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

An notice

Please see [[2]] Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:07, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, Hell in a Bucket. It sounds like you've undergone quite a reappraisal of a past conflict. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I try to continually self improve myself, after what happened towards the end of that case happened I was truly sickened. I didn't know and was disgusted that I was associated with people doing those actions. Time helps too, I needed to leave and disengage. A block would have left me salty but this gave me time to make up my own mind and comes to terms with things too so I'm thankful it was only a Iban. I honestly thought of things being over-reactions more then real life common occurrences but education has shown me differently. I'm getting older (closer to 40 then 30 damn it) and in the interim I have encountered significant new health problems and my best friend was murdered, it might lead a person to make some changes and soul searching. I'll be ok however it comes down I would like to be out from under it but either way we live and hopefully learn. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry for your loss, Hell in a Bucket. I've wrestled with my own health problems that ended up providing me with an extended Wikibreak. I actually recommend breaks, I've had two, I left both times tired out from conflicts with other editors (or just the ordinary abrasiveness that is common here) and always came back refreshed and ready to get back to work. I hope your health improves...in the end, it is way more important than editing an encyclopedia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree, thankfully my health problems didn't keep me from Wiki but I did come back refreshed. Thanks for your kind words and I will see you round the pedia . Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:55, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

PAVA cloud CSD rejection

Hey, I saw that you rejected the speedy deletion request that I posted to PAVA cloud on the grounds that we should consider the merge first. However, the merge was proposed by me, and completed by me already, so I really don't think there's anything left to do with the merge. That having been said, I see that one of the sources uses "PavaCloud™" in its marketing, so I'm going to change the article to a redirect instead of refiling for deletion, as that seems reasonably appropriate. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Sounds good, Rosguill. I appreciate the explanation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:08, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

concerning your revision

the last good revision needed translation which I did you undid something I had to do

i only encourage you to take the highest consideration of what i have written

in highest regards bradleyagin 19:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talk • contribs)

Can you be more specific? What page are you referring to, Bradleyagin? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Isabeau of Bavaria bradleyagin 23:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradleyagin (talk • contribs)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Markcus (January 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Buidhe was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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buidhe (formerly Catrìona) 00:42, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Buidhe but I just submitted this draft I came across while tagging and deleting old drafts under G13. I thought it was ready for main space but I guess not. I'll look it over again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:17, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

hey

Nice to see you still around as well Liz - and ditto on the "have a great 2019" :-) — Ched :  ?  — 06:06, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Ched. 2019 is starting off okay except for the shutdown. Here's hoping everyone can get back to work soon! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Welcome message Suggestion

Hey, thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia. Just an FYI, you may to check talk pages before you post your welcome message at the top in case the user has put something there already. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 00:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't see another welcome note unless you have removed one from your talk page. I use Twinkle (an editing tool) and Twinkle always puts welcome notices at the very top of the user talk page. I just noticed that you only registered your account a week ago and hadn't been welcomed yet. If the note irritates you, please delete it, Wallyfromdilbert. Editors can remove everything but block notices & deletion tags from their own talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:30, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

I had a link with the text "Click here to start a new topic" at the top of my talk page that I had put there shortly after creating my account. I have already moved it back to the top of my talk page above your welcome message, and I am aware that I can delete it from my own talk page. Also, the default setting in Twinkle is to place welcome messages below other content already on someone's talk page. You must have changed the default setting. Hence why I said you may want to look at the talk pages before you post so that you do not move down messages placed by the user themselves. If they have something already placed at the top of their own talk page and you want to post a welcome message, then change back to the default settings in Twinkle before posting. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Well, my mistake was in assuming you are a new editor, Wallyfromdilbert. Stay on your toes, if you have a Wikipedia history. The truth comes out in the end. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Just because I'm a new editor doesn't mean that I don't try to read on the policies before I do things, even if I make mistakes in some of my edits. Going through my preferences and looking at the settings is pretty basic, and I'm not quite sure why an experienced user would try to be misleading about how Twinkle works. Way to assume good faith about me though with your statement. I know that's big here especially considering you have it in your banner when others edit your talk page. Maybe you should try it yourself. Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 04:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

You know, Wally, I took a minute from my editing to simply posted a Welcome message to what I thought was a new editor. And you are making a big deal over what was meant as a simple friendly gesture from one editor to another. Now, I regret even extending you a hand of friendship. I won't respond any further and if you have any problems, you can take them to another administrator. I will revert or delete any further messages you post here and I've never said that to another editor before in my 5 years editing on Wikipedia. Good bye and good luck with your editing. So long. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Mostafa Matar

Hi! I worte Draft:Mostafa Matar, could you check it and move it to main space wiki. So thank you ! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk) 03:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Justice,ScienceandFree,

I am not familiar with the standards for notability for football, so I've submitted it to Articles for Creation for a reviewer to look at. I also recommend you visiting WikiProject Football talk page and make contact with other editors who work in this area. I'm sure they could offer you some assistance and advice on your articles. Good luck. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:54, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank, God bless you! —Justice,ScienceandFree (talk · contribs)

Categories...

Yes, I'd removed the {{empty category}} on those, because they aren't likely to be filled in a useful fashion now that the templates that filled them were actively removed. IIRC I placed the {{empty category}} on them, originally, when it was a possibility they could be filled. That is no longer the case.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:24, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, ShakespeareFan00. This whole EmptyCat issue is one I've been thinking about because the tag is being used on over 20,000 category pages, many more than is warranted. I'm hoping to post at the Village Pump soon to get some ideas on ways to be sure the tag is being utilized correctly and when necessary. I'm reluctant to remove the tag because I've run into disagreement about it even though many of those same empty categories are still empty and are likely to remain so. An editor puts a tracking or maintenance tag and an empty cat tag on a category and it is if the decision is written in stone. I think many of these categories need to be reviewed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Mostafa Matar has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mostafa Matar. Thanks! Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:12, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Saint-Brieuc Museum of Art and History (January 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Pythoncoder was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Yarkon Bridge Trio

Hello, I am (as a fairly new editor) trying to expand articles relating to Israeli Music. I seen that the Yarkon Bridge Trio was previously deleted by you (to be clear: I didn't edited the deleted article and I don't know what was in the content). Is it OK with you if I'd have another go in writing this article, trying to make it as detailed as possible?--Daffidovic (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Of course, Daffidovic, go for it. Yarkon Bridge Trio was deleted because of A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article. Here were the entire contents of the article that was deleted:

'hayarkon trio

the yarkon trio was an entertiment group active in israel between 1963-1966

• Bulleted list item

So, I think given that it was only a sentence long, anything would be an improvement. I have restored it and moved it to Draft:Yarkon Bridge Trio where you can work on it. Good luck with your editing! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks. I worked on the article over the weekend and uploaded it now.--Daffidovic (talk) 06:40, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Parliament categories

Hi Liz,

Regarding categories like the one in this edit - AIUI the general practice is for these categories to be one per Parliament, not per year. Circa 1400, there were about a dozen years with two parliaments each, which complicates things a bit. The memberships are apparently often quite distinct, with (for example) only 35 of 157 members from April 1414 known to reappear in the November 1414 Parliament, so it doesn't seem to make sense to lump them together in a single category. I'm not incredibly keen on the full "Month XXXX" names but I can't think of a snappier form (early/late?)

I've just finished some work on indexing MPs for the 1300s-1400s and I'm hoping to start populating the categories in a short while (probably need to set up a bot request first, as it'll be about 2500 edits). I had recategorised a couple of the existing ones as part of the preparation work but forgotten to list the old entries for deletion.

Hope you don't mind if I roll back your changes here and list the "amalgamated" categories for deletion instead! I'll hold off doing it until tomorrow in case you have concerns. Andrew Gray (talk) 22:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I see you've rolled some these changes back and listed the new categories for deletion again. As I noted, splitting these years into two for the two distinct parliaments is consistent with the way these are handled elsewhere (one cat per parliamentary term), and lumping them together when they have potentially quite distinct memberships seems arbitrary. I don't want to proceed with populating these cats until this is a bit more stable, and I'm not sure why you feel they ought to be merged - is there a category policy rule I'm missing? Andrew Gray (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Am I missing something?

You nominated a number of cats, e.g Category:Fuegotrophon for deletion with the rationale that they are empty, yet they are not.--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Juice Press

I've seen you go through stale drafts quite a few times. Do you think this is worth saving from a G13? -- Dolotta (talk) 18:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

• At the risk of lighting up your talk page, Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra may be something you might be interested in as well. -- Dolotta (talk) 18:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Dolotta, I'm just seeing your message now, I don't know why I didn't get a notification of your messages yesterday. It looks like Draft:Juice Press has since been deleted but I'll review the article and restore it if I think it might clear AfC (my acceptance record is so-so but I have had a few successes). I'll look at Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra, too, but since it isn't a red link, it looks like some other editor or admin has worked on it. Thanks for the notice and the good work you do tagging stale drafts. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Juice Press had some reliable sources but the predominant editor is a now-blocked paid editor and it reads like an advertisement with a great deal of detail about its investors. Draft:Jennifer A Heemstra has some potential but it is an autobiography and it is not correctly referenced. But I did a little editing which will spare it for another 6 months in case an editor with an interest in classical music would like to work on it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:12, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Luis Peña (MMA) has been accepted

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Draft:New Hampshire State Senate elections, 2016

Yes I would like for the draft article and the work I put into it to be restored. Thank you. User:Jon698User talk:Jon698

 Done Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:Taiwanese railway station stubs

Hi Liz, perhaps you could help. During NPP I approved between 10-25 stub articles about Taiwanese rail stations. In so doing, I tagged them as stubs. In creating the stub, I also created this cat. But I cannot populate any of the articles with this cat. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I don't create many cats, so obviously I've screwed it up somehow. Here are a few of the stub articles which belong in the cat: Xiangshan railway station, Sanxingqiao railway station, Yutengping railway station, Yutengping railway station. Fastily had deleted it once before, and then restored it. I am struggling with populating the cat... thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:45, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, onel5969,

I work with categories a lot and I've found Wikipedia:HotCat to be invaluable. It makes adding, changing and deleting categories a breeze if you know which ones you want to assign to the article. Once you click the - or + and start typing, the likely possible categories will appear and you can select the one you want. This only works with existing categories, ones that have already been created.

Do not bother with the Advanced usage instructions on the HotCat page, just look at the "How to use" section. Go to your Preferences>Gadgets>Editing and click the HotCat button. Let me know if you have any questions but it should make assigning categories much easier and faster for you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:09, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Liz... yes, I use HotCat as well... and in this instance, if you click on any of the articles I list above, and attempt to add this cat, it won't let you. Not sure what to do. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Okay, onel5969, so you know about HotCat. I don't know why the category isn't showing up when you use that tool so I just edited those 3 pages that you mentioned and added Category:Taiwanese railway station stubs to the page and it shows up. Do you mind doing that for 10-25 more articles? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Oddly enough it still won't let me add it using HotCat. So I'm simply adding the cat manually to all the applicable articles I can find. Take care.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Scale-invariant feature operator has been accepted

Scale-invariant feature operator, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Mgbo120 (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

G13 refund

Hi, is there any way you could be able to restore Draft:Amphetamine synthesis? As far as I'm aware, its creator wasn't notified it had become eligible for deletion. – Uanfala (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done I made a minor edit to restart the 6 month clock. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:07, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! (On a side note, you might want to be aware of WT:CSD#G13_on_sight?). – Uanfala (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing me to that conversation, Uanfala. Some old drafts (see Draft:Shona Tucker) indicate that they are now ready to be deleted. Others, have no pink tag that says it's okay to delete and so I tag them CSD G13 which notifies the creator. Maybe the AfC submission tag should be changed. Drafts that have not been submitted to AfC do not receive a tag that states it's okay to delete them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Tracking categories

Hi Liz

Please take a look at the revision history of Category:Template SportsYearCatUSstate on invalid page (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), which I just restored.

It's an error-tracking category. Such categories may be empty some or all the time. Ideally they will, be empty nearly all of the time ... so being empty is not grounds for deleting them.

In this case, your tagging on the category for WP:C1 was reverted by @Ymblanter, but with a note summarising some of the above ... but you deleted it anyway.

I only spotted this just now, and restored the category, adding {{Possibly empty category}}.

If you encounter empty tracking categories, please do not just speedy-delete the, especially when that speedy has been opposed.

In most cases it will be best to tag them with {{Possibly empty category}}, but it is best to check whether the template is still using the tracking category.

In the case above, the tracking cat contained a link to Template:SportsYearCatUSstate, where the documentation explicitly mentions the tracking category. I struggle to see why you thought deletion was appropriate . --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I guess I took some instructions too literally. Most categories that are sometimes empty, sometimes filled, have a {{emptycat}} tag on them. If I don't see a tag, I think it's okay to delete. Thank you for pointing out that I shouldn't do this without a further inquiry. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

An association for Mesopedians

Hi greetings, I created an Wikipedian association named m:Association of Mesopedianist Wikipedians for mesopedians. Would you mind joining in it? Regards.--PATH SLOPU ^(Talk) 14:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Path slopu. I'll check out the page but I'm not sure what joining a Wikipedia Association on the Meta site involves other than a userbox. Congratulations on the creation of the Association though and taking the initiative. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:37, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Just curious

so I'm told you left me a message this morning (world timely that's about 6 hours ago) couldn't find it untill i checked history. all you added was a header (aka ==Welcome==) it confused me because all of a sudden the page now has a Table of Contents. was that the intention? and How did you know it was needed? I looked through all revisions and saw no ToC until now --Qazwiz (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I guess it is a personal quirk of mine, Qazwiz, but I hate to see content placed above a table of contents on user and article talk pages. All you need to do is place a header on the content and the table of contents rises to the top of the page. I hope it didn't bother you.

By the way, an editor receives a notice any time anyone edits your user talk page...sometimes I have to search to find an edit and sometimes the edits are later reverted by another editor and there is no change at all to the talk page! An edit doesn't always mean that someone has left a message. You can also set your preferences regarding your notifications and either receive no notification or an email notification. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

so the confusion was my notification said "left a message" because it didn't know it was a "clean up"
.... your edit doesn't bother me, quite the contrary after your explanation it clears up more puzzlement.
Back when i was more active on wikipedia i was bothered that others had an index but my talk didn't. THANK YOU, refreshing that editors here know more than how to revert my multi hour edits LOL (sorry but reason i'm so cynical about wiki nowadays is Ive had about 50 - 100 hours of edits reverted POOF and "qazwiz? what qazwiz?" (oh, and that 50 hours isn't as much most would think... i'm slow typist and seldom do my hunt n peck on real keyboard, rather use the virtual keyboard and mouse hunt n pecks so takes very long time for this perfectionist to do what others do in minutes)  :: Qazwiz (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Undeletion of maintenance categories

Could you undelete

• Category:Infobox journals with missing Bluebook abbreviations
• Category:Infobox journals with missing MathSciNet abbreviations
• Category:Infobox journals with missing NLM abbreviations

Those are maintenance categories, and they should not be deleted just because they are empty. They can be marked with {{Possibly empty category}} to prevent deletion in the future too. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:53, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done, Headbomb, and added {{emptycat}} tag to otherwise empty categories. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:46, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Category:People of Celtic Descent

Thank you for your input. My input was very clumsy, yet not in bad faith. I hope this can be resolved as I do not with to engage in endless edit wars with BrownEyedGirl or DuncanHill. Their lack of explanation for creating and applying the categories, and reverting my deletes, pushed me into this. I hoped it could be left in some form to apply to Iron Age folk, but it and its offshoot categories may really be best deleted. They really are too fuzzy for use. Fergananim (talk) 17:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Fergananim, if Wikipedia eliminated all editors who have been involved in a dispute with other editors, there would be no editors left to work on the encyclopedia! You look through my talk page archives (or those of CfD) and you'll see the times where BrownEyedGirl and I were on opposite sides of a dispute. And while we still do not also agree with each other, I have learned that BrownEyedGirl knows the ins and outs of categorization better than I do and she is (almost!) always right, as least as far as policy goes. I now believe that some of the categorization policies would be good to change but that will take a time when I have more time and energy to deal with an RfC on those matters.

The great thing about Wikipedia is that you do learn how things are done the more time you spend editing. It might be that in the future, you do come up with some appropriate and well-defined categorizations that Wikipedia doesn't already have or that work better than what we have now and this time, your changes will stick! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:04, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Request for comment List of churches in Sweden

You nominated this list for deletion. I voted "keep" (and I find I was wrong). I am trying to make this list useable. I am working on editing the list, but it is massive. I would appreciate your comment on the talk page of the article. Thanks Aurornisxui (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

It is an enormous list, Aurornisxui and I'm not sure about the source for the information. I've glanced at the talk page discussion and I agree with other editors that this list would be much more manageable if it was broken down into geographic areas. What I've seen in other subjects has been to come up with lists that cover the main/primary large cities, first, and then work outward towards secondary cities, and later provinces/states/counties.

The problem with this list, and why it was nominated, is that it is just so gigantic, having an entire country's churches on a single list is hard to navigate. Break it into smaller lists and it'll be easier to tackle and it won't seem so overwhelming. It will also be more satisfying as you finish one list and then move to another rather than attempting to update this list with its thousands of churches. Kudos to you for taking on this project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Liz, it is overwhelming. The sources for the information are Swedish Wikipedia (which has some excellent references) and, more importantly, The Swedish National Historic Board. I was planning on making just one list, but break it into pages. I don't want to clutter things up any more than they already are. Aurornisxui (talk) 22:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Category:2019 World Men's Handball Championship squad templates

Hey, it will be filled. I started and will work on it the coming weeks/months. Kante4 (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Request

Could you please restore Category:Russian Orthodox churches in Moscow? I guess it has been emptied out of process. It is obvious that there are enough articles that could be added to this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done, Marcocapelle. Let's work on populating this category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:39, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done, 17 articles in it right now. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Category:List of theatre directors in the 20th and 21st centuries: Revision history

Created in error.... happy to have it deleted

.... am a rookie  ... dont know how to do that :{{ Oldtaxman (talk) 17:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Oldtaxman, the category was tagged yesterday as an empty category. It will sit for another 6 days and then it will be deleted if no articles are assigned to the category by Feb. 18th. So, you have 6 days to use it if you still envision it being a viable category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

OK Cheers Oldtaxman (talk) 08:33, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Shanelle Nyasiase

I tagged the draft of Shanelle Nyasiase for deletion because I created the article already as I was tired of going back and forth with an unexperienced editor who kept submitting it as a troll when it clearly wasn’t ready and would have been declined. It has to be deleted because now it’s a duplicate. Yet people over at ANI wanted to turn it into something personal and clearly not understanding what is wrong. For that reason, nothing else needs to be done with the draft unless the troll wants to continue their futile doodles.Trillfendi (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Trillfendi, I deleted Draft:Shanelle Nyasiase because a version has been moved to mainspace. If this is not what you wanted, let me know and I can restore it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:12, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

David Boren

Hello, I noticed that you undid an edit on this page. I've also undid the same kind of edit (twice over a three to four day period) from that account and what I presume to be an IP associated with it. I know this is already pushing the 3RR. I really want to avoid turning this into an edit war but four different editors have each reverted their edits, what should be my next course of action regarding their actions.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 14:51, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

AATTPP has only made 4 edits, UCO2009bluejay, but I'll keep an eye on that account and put the article on my watchlist. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Nubile page?

Hi, I got a notification that the page Nubile was deleted. While I can't remember the page in detail, I was obviously involved, but now I can't see history to find out. Was it a redirect...vague memory perhaps linked to lotita, or did I change it from lolita to something like sexual attraction maybe (as lolita was not the correct context). "Term not even mentioned on target article" I suspect that would lead to a large number of redirects being deleted. Surely there will be people who search for Nubile, as I suspect I did, and while a specific page may not be extant a redirect to a similar topic is warranted? ˥ Ǝ Ʉ H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 06:22, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

You really think that readers will do a search for the obscure, literary term "nubile"? The page was a one line redirect to Physical attractiveness and there was no mention of what nubile was, what it referred to, much less any meaning of the word. I wouldn't be opposed to a new article but it seemed like a useless redirect when connection to "nubile" and attractiveness wasn't even spelled out. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:28, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

The dictionary defn contains e.g. "2. Sexually mature and attractive. Used of young women.", the linked article 2nd line "The term often implies sexual attractiveness or desirability", which I felt was a better match than lolita, it is a back step to delete things rather than evolve/improve. Anyway...I just didn't think linking it to lolita was appropriate, so having it deleted achieves the same end. I'm starting to get a carefactor in wiki editing anyway...˥ Ǝ Ʉ H Ɔ I Ɯ (talk) 06:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Typo fix

Thanks for this! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:53, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Nubile

Wouldn't it have been better to just point the page to Wiktionary? People are going to keep turning the "Nubile" link blue. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:56, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

That's a good idea, Flyer22 Reborn. I hadn't thought of that. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages consultation 2019

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That should be interesting, Winged Blades of Godric. Thanks for the invitation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Question about an old edit

Hello, Liz,

I have gone back and looked. It appears information about J&K of South Africa (a company that does not exist), was smuggled into Uganda Oil Refinery and Energy in Uganda. I agree with you that it is a hoax. Fsmatovu 02:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Oh, that's good news, Fsmatovu! I thought you were far too experienced to be part of all of this mess. It's dismaying for me to see that these hoax edits by a wanna-be billionaire (especially on Black Billionaires) have just been repeated verbatim across the internet. I thought journalists would do more fact-checking. It makes me feel even more strongly about WP:V. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:DJ 4Rain ‎

Hello Liz, can I please know who created Draft:DJ 4Rain that you deleted per G7. Thank you. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

The draft article creator was Jimmysonoma, GSS. They blanked the draft back in August 2018 and it had reached the six month period without any edits. Would you like the draft restored? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:16, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Oh! I thought it was created recently. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:23, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

WikiCup 2019 March newsletter

And so ends the first round of the competition. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2. With 56 contestants qualifying, each group in Round 2 contains seven contestants, with the two leaders from each group due to qualify for Round 3 as well as the top sixteen remaining contestants.

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• L293D, a WikiCup newcomer, led the field with ten good articles on submarines for a total of 357 points.
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Jhalak Category

Thanks for nominiating for dletion I made it by mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoraFatehi231 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Kartographer WLM pin

Was there some special reason why Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_December_15#Template:Kartographer_WLM_pin were not valid any more? Bug still exists as it was confirmed on just day before you deleted the template (phab:T168601). Also as said in the discussion way to replicate is to use page in enwiki as mapframe uses enwiki as a backend for rendering the templates. --Zache (talk) 07:30, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Just pushing this up because i kind of would like to know how the bug reports should be done or even more how you expect them to be ever fixed if methods how to replicate them are deleted. --Zache (talk) 19:09, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I missed your message when you first posted it, Zache. Are you asking me to restore this template? I can but I think that it will just be tagged for speedy deletion again. It looks like a broken template and although there is a note about the bug on the page, it's easy to miss the explanation for why this template exists. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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Destroying instead of closing

Perhaps you should consider closing the clear consensus discussions instead of destroying the work put into getting ready to action the discussion. Legacypac (talk) 21:49, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you tell me what page or article you are referring to, Legacypac? Then I'll know how to respond to your query. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:57, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Anything around X3 you are tagging for deletion. Legacypac (talk) 22:04, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

That redirect didn't lead to any section of the target page. I didn't know the redirect was being discussed, there was no tag on the page stating that it was the subject of any discussion. I'm not sure why the redirect page was created before the CSD criteria was approved which it was meant to post to. That was premature. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

March GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2019 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the March newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since December 2018. All being well, we're planning to issue these quarterly in 2019, balancing the need to communicate widely with the avoidance of filling up talk pages. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. January Drive: Thanks to everyone for the splendid work in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. We removed copyedit tags from all of the articles tagged in our original target months of June, July and August 2018, and by 24 January we ran out of articles. After adding September, we finished the month with 8 target articles remaining and 842 left in the backlog. GOCE copyeditors also completed 48 requests for copyedit in January. Of the 31 people who signed up for this drive, 24 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 15 people who signed up, 13 copyedited at least one article. Participants claimed 32 copyedits, including 15 requests. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here. Progress report: As of 23:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have completed 108 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 851 articles. March Drive: The month-long March drive is now underway; the target months are October and November 2018. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here! Election reminder: It may only be March but don't forget our mid-year Election of Coordinators opens for nominations on 1 June. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, Reidgreg and Tdslk. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Minor correction

In your statement re the Portal issues Arbitration request, you comment "They are not akin to Nellie's thousands of ill-thought-out redirects.". The redirects were created by user:Nelix not Nellie.

If you have not done so already (I haven't looked), you may wish to opine on the proposed temporary speedy deletion criterion discussion at WP:AN and/or the prosed expansion of P2 at WT:CSD. Thryduulf (talk) 00:02, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about that typo, Thryduulf. I'm not on my standard keyboard so I can see how I made a mistake. I will correct it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Skitt’s Law proved again, @Thryduulf: the username is (or was) Neelix, with two Es.—Odysseus1479 07:55, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Oops! Thryduulf (talk) 08:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Request to revert deletion

The category Category:Civil rights in the United States was deleted by you, despite my request to move discussion to cfd. The category was not empty as it contained the parent article Civil rights in the United States before Le Deluge emptied it. Mitchumch (talk) 05:00, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Empty categories sit for 7 days in case there has been an out-of-process emptying, Mitchumch. Is there a reason you didn't move the discussion to CfD yourself during those 7 days? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:04, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Because I didn't initiate the delete discussion. deletion of category. I requested Le Deluge to do so less than two hours before you deleted the category. That request also represented an ongoing discussion. I thought that ongoing discussion would merit a postponement of the deletion. Categories that are proposed for deletion that have ongoing discussions beyond 7 days routinely remain undeleted until discussion is complete. Mitchumch (talk) 05:09, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The "discussion" was you saying the category should not be deleted and Le Deluge saying that it should. There would not have been any resolution of this one-one-one conversation because you asked Le Deluge to post a request to discuss the category at CfD at the last minute. He legitimately tagged the category for CSD C1 deletion so why would he be arguing for the category to exist when it was empty? I'll restore the category but it is up to you, Mitchumch, to make a case at CfD for why it should not be deleted (which will be tricky since discussions there are usually about merging or deleting not saving). Since it usually takes 7 days to close a non-unanimous CfD discussion, that should take the a week as well. And, it would help your case at CfD if you assigned some parent categories to the page as right now as it is an orphan category.

I hope you understand that deleting empty categories that are not a) part of a CfD discussion, b) redirects or c) are tracking categories that are occasionally empty, is simply policy. We don't keep empty categories that aren't being utilized no matter what subject they cover. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

The talk page also needs to be restored and all history is missing beyond my creation of the category. Mitchumch (talk) 06:02, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for overlooking the talk page, Mitchumch, I'll take care of that. By the way, there were only two edits to the category, one edit to create it and one edit to tag it for deletion. I assume you didn't want the tag reinstated but as long as it is empty, it will likely be tagged again soon. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

ooopsh

Sorry about that revert....finger trouble, obviously! Huldra (talk) 01:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I was just archiving old cases, Huldra. You reverted your revert so it's all good. Thanks for letting me know though, I don't check my notifications often enough. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Portal guidelines

Regarding getting the WikiProjects involved: I've been saying this for a month at Wikipedia talk:Portal/Guidelines, and it was raised as a proposal by UnitedStatesian. To me it's the only scalable, sustainable way to identify the best entry points for topic areas and to maintain them. isaacl (talk) 00:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, it's your and UnitedStatesian brilliant idea, then, isaacl. What do you think we can do to make this happen? I'll post a message at the WikiProject Council. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Pretty sure I'm not the first either, just the one that keeps raising it in the current set of threads. There isn't really a WikiProject Council; it's just a page that some people watch and offer opinions on. If more people would comment on the proposal on the portal guidelines talk page, then perhaps it can gain consensus support. isaacl (talk) 00:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Oops! I didn't realize there wasn't an actual council. I'll have to alter my post there. Thanks for informing me. I think the proposal discussion is so massive, that it is intimidating to take on. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:07, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I mean there's a page called that, but it's essentially just a talk page for people interested in WikiProjects. (I didn't follow it during its heyday, so maybe it was different before, but it certainly has been like that for long time now.) Other people commenting on the case have said similar things about the size of the discussion, but there aren't really a lot of alternatives with English Wikipedia's decision-making traditions. Discussions are open to everyone and they all get to have their say. I could be misremembering, but as far as I recall, the conversation has been relatively calm compared with many others I've seen in the past. isaacl (talk) 01:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, it hasn't been so nice on ANI and the arbitration case has its share of division but that is not unusual for arbitration case requests. If a problem was easily solved amicably, editors wouldn't need to go to arbitration. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:00, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Category:Disestablishments in Qatar by millennium

Hello Liz. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Category:Disestablishments in Qatar by millennium, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Category is populated and has not been empty for 7 days. Thank you. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 05:08, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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User Marshmallow123321

Hi Liz! I hope that you're having a great day and that life is treating you well! I just wanted to let you know that I set Marshmallow123321's block duration to be indefinite. There's no doubt that the purpose of this account is only for engaging in vandalism. Given the total edits made by this account, as well as the severity of some of them (I had to rev del a few), a VOA block felt necessary to me. If you have objections or issues with my extension of the block you initially placed, please let me know. You're welcome to modify the changes I made to the block and without my prior input or approval. Just let me know that you did so and your thoughts and reasons behind the change. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

It's very thoughtful for you to let me know, Oshwah. I have no problem with you extending the block on this editor given their vandalism. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Cool beans! Thanks for the response! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

My category

Hi Liz, I noticed that you nominated my category for speedy deletion. Thank you for reminding me! I created that category and put my user page in it because of a userbox there was there that is not a template. Since I moved all my userboxes to a separate subpage, I removed that template from my user page, but forgot to put it into my userbox subpage, leaving the category empty. Although, the template can be deleted now because I don't feel I need it. Thank you! Catinthedogs (talk) 12:09, 2 April 2019 (UTC) Although, when you nominate a page for speedy deletion, I suggest that you notify the creator on their talk page, as it says on the notice. Catinthedogs (talk) 12:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Catinthedogs:...what, even when their talk page redirects to their user page? ——SerialNumber54129 12:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Which category are you talking about? I tag hundreds of empty categories every week. If I reminded you, I'm not sure how I erred. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I am talking about Wikipedian Michael Jackson fans. Catinthedogs (talk) 04:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC) My user talk page redirects to my user page, but all the content of my talk page was put there, so someone could easily leave me a talk page message from that section of my user page. Catinthedogs (talk) 04:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Possible Future GA Article

Hey I have been editing George W. Bush 2000 presidential campaign for the past few months and taken it from a list with just his platform to what it is now. I am not nominating it for GA yet, but can you read over it and give me your opinion on whether or not it could be a GA once it is complete? Jon698 (talk) 3:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Note about revision delete

Hi Liz!

I just wanted to let you know that some of these revdels weren't strictly necessary. Only these ones were required. When you revdel the content of a revision, that means that version of the page won't ever be shown to non-admins. It effectively hides both the diff from the previous revision to the revision you delete, as well as the diff from the revision you delete to the next revision. For example, this diff is now hidden because you hid DannyS712's edit, even though there's nothing objectionable in that diff. This one would have been hidden either way, because SineBot's revision was already deleted.

I don't think this is a big deal at all, but I thought I'd just let you know: As I understand it, with revdel, you don't have to delete the revert to a clean state, only the dirty edits. ST47 (talk) 04:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

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Are u around

I need to ask you a question. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm here, editing, Thegooduser. What's up? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Will you block me for 25 minutes and disable the autoblock and revoke my talk page access, I can't study because I am too distracted here. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

We're really not supposed to do this sort of thing. I don't know anything about disabling the autoblock but I will block you for 25 minutes. Consider this an exception. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Need your advice

Hi Liz, thanks to invite me on my user. I'm new user on Wikipedia, I have a problem when I make edits to all the articles I've done, I have made a mistake that has violated Wikipedia's rules because I cannot quickly learn because I have a learning disability since childhood. So, I need your advice. Thank you for your time.

Yours sincerely, Alif Fizol (talk) 17:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

What is your specific question, Alif Fizol? There should be links in your welcoming message to different pages with Wikipedia policies. If you have questions, you might try the Teahouse which is ready with editors to answer your editing questions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:49, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

pick up

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Thanks...I think! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:27, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Requested move: Chairman → Chair (officer)

Hello, there is an RM discussion you may be interested in since you have participated in the past:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chairman#Requested_move_22_March_2019

Any input would be appreciated. Fyunck(click) (talk) 03:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm flattered, Fyunck(click), but this is a very lengthy discussion with complex arguments and I have minimal experience closing discussions like this. I think you should ask an admin with more experience than I in closing RMs or RfCs. I'll read it over tomorrow to see if I can offer anything. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I actually wasn't asking you to close it. You had participated in prior moves of this page (multiple years ago) and I let all the prior participants know that we are discussing it again. Someone mentioned we need more eyes and thoughts on the discussion and yours are as good as anyone elses. Cheers. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of portal sub-pages

Hi Liz, please help me understand why you deleted Portal:Bahn/Template/Tab1 and other related portal sub-pages, resulting in error messages on Portal:Thuringia and, possibly, other portals. Cheers. Bermicourt (talk) 11:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Bermicourt, I don't know if I can help you understand but you could have just asked me to undelete Portal:Bahn/Template/Tab1 which is what I did. It was tagged for deletion by UnitedStatesian and the only page that uses it is Portal:Thuringia which was also tagged for deletion but I removed the speedy. The portal should be nominated for a MfD if editors want it deleted rather than speedied. The subpage deletion was an oversight on my part as I didn't see the connection so thank you for bringing this to my attention. Let me know if Portal:Thuringia page is disrupted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

No worries. Be aware that there is some over-zealous deletion of auto-portals going on that is resulting in collateral damage to manually-curated portals as well. Bermicourt (talk) 06:50, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Team: I fixed all the links and was able to re-delete the 2 (now unused) subpages that have no parent page. Sorry for the inconvenience. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, UnitedStatesian. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:02, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Icelandic municipal election

I tagged Template:Icelandic municipal election for G4, but it should have been G6. Sorry, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:59, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Grand slam figure skating page deleted??

Hi, I was just wondering why you deleted the grand slam of figure skating page. It was a very good resource for noting historical accomplishments of contemporary figure skaters and was actually used by a few smaller (yet still significant) figure skating analysts, like me. While the grand slam might not be a record kept track of by the International Skating Union, the page was still so interesting and helpful to many members of the figure skating community, and it would be great if its deletion could be undone (if possible). Lilydog945 (talk) 21:05, 19 April 2019 (EST)

Hi, Lilydog945,

Can you give me the exact name of the article? Then I can look into the circumstances of the deletion. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:30, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

The article was called Grand Slam (figure skating). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilydog945 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Lilydog945, Grand Slam (figure skating) was deleted due to an uncontested PROD. This means that the article can be restored upon request which I have done so in response to your message. I hope you can give this article some attention! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:09, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Template talk:Box-header-round

Hello Liz. The above talkpage was recently deleted by you as G8, but there is a template page for that talkpage. Was it a mistake? Rehman 04:15, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

You are right, Rehman. It shouldn't have been deleted. All I can think is that sometimes a page that is up for deletion is a redirect and it could have led me to the redirected page and I mistakenly deleted it in error. Thank you for bringing this to my attention so I could restore it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

No worries. Happy editing! Rehman 03:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Empty categories

Thanks for marking Category:Electric power distribution system operators in Finland and Category:Electric power distribution system operators in Sweden for speedy deletion! I should have done it myself when I emptied them (due to a renaming). --Per W (talk) 06:06, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

You know, Per W, if you list your proposed rename at speedy renames at Categories for Discussion and a bot will move all of the pages so you don't have to. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I will use, since I often end up restructuring the categories. Per W (talk) 10:59, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Echoism

I hate this, why warn me the draft is up for deletion and then delete it (immediately) before I can respond. The policy should be wait 24 hours or 7 days between the two. -Broichmore (talk) 08:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Broichmore, it is a G13 deletion which means that the page is a draft that can be restored upon request. I assume that this is your request so I will restore the article, Draft:Echoism.

P.S. I didn't delete the draft, I just tagged it and sent you the warning message. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:33, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Nevertheless the machine in 2019, should grant some grace on a timer, rather than (effectively) immediately delete. -Broichmore (talk) 08:37, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

User:Broichmore - I mostly agree that a slightly longer wait would be appropriate on G13, but Liz is just following the rules, and, besides, you had six months to update your draft, and you can get it back. Why leave a draft alone for six months and then complain? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:07, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Empty categories: Events in Congress Poland

Thanks for your note Liz. I objected because I thought that the move was premature. There have been active discussions about how to handle things like Congress Poland and the modern Polish state.No agreement has been reached. When agreement is reached, I imagine that this category will be needed. But I suppose that we can re-create it later. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:28, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

You're right, Laurel Lodged, usually with subjects like this or Macedonia, there are longer discussions involved at CfD that decide naming issues. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:01, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

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The second round of the 2019 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to scored 32 points to advance into round 3. Our top four scorers in round 2 all scored over 400 points and were:

• Cas Liber (1210), our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three DYKs. He also made good use of the bonus points available, more than doubling his score by choosing appropriate articles to work on.
• Kosack (750), last year's runner up, with an FA, a GA, two FLs, and five DYKs.
• Adam Cuerden (480), a WikiCup veteran, with 16 featured pictures, mostly restorations.
• Zwerg Nase (461), a seasoned competitor, with a FA, a GA and an ITN item.

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So far contestants have achieved nine featured articles between them and a splendid 80 good articles. Commendably, 227 GARs have been completed during the course of the 2019 WikiCup, so the backlog of articles awaiting GA review has been reduced as a result of contestants' activities. The judges are pleased with the thorough GARs that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).

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• XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.

Arbitration

• In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
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Admin Resource

I NEVER write messages to myself on my own talk page but I just saw https://xtools.wmflabs.org/adminstats on the Admin Report and it's an interesting resource if any talk page stalkers don't check User:JamesR/Adminstats to look at admin stats. Psst! The admins you see the most on Wikipedia are not exactly the most active admins by stats counter. People get a niche area and work in it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:59, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Aircraft decade categories should be speedy renamed instead of deleted

FYI categories like Category:Dutch civil aircraft 2000–2009 have been put up recently for speedy rename @ Wikipedia:Categories for discussion#Current requests. ~300 cats weren't found until after the original successful CfD, so some empty categories have appeared b/c all of their contents, but not the parent, were in the CfD.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  02:17, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I saw your message, Tom.Reding, in the edit summary but when I went to speedy renames at CFD, I didn't see these aircraft categories listed. I even posted a message at Military History WikiProject to try to find out what was up with these empty aircraft categories (see Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories for the dozens of ones listed). Thanks for filling me in. I'll stop tagging them for CSD C1 deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Lenny Castro

Hi. I noticed you deleted Lenny Castro for WP:G4 even though I created a redirect.

• G4 "excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version".
• A redirect is nothing similar an article.
• Similar is a synonym for identical.

Ergo, can you check if someone "restored" the page between the time I made the redirect and the time you deleted it?

I don't know about a redirect, I deleted the recreation of an article. And you're right, the two version were not 100% identical but almost the same. In face, I think the first version of the article was stronger than the second. I don't see that either version established the kind of notability that Wikipedia requires but read the remarks at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lenny Castro for other opinions. The references/citations were not very strong at all in either version and you need to establish that Castro is notable in several, NON-TRIVIAL, reliable sources that focus upon him (not just a passing mention).

Do you have any interviews, feature articles or reviews from Billboard or Guitar Player or other respected magazines or trade journals that focus upon him? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

I think FoxyGrampa75 was just wondering what happened to the redirect they created at Lenny Castro on April 1 (see [3]). They appear unaware that their redirect was overwritten on April 9th in order to recreate a full article. I don't think their intent is to write or maintain an article on the subject.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

(just ninja'd) That's my point. He is not standalone notable outside of Toto (band), so I wanted to create a redirect to the aforementioned page to defer people from recreating the article and getting it salted. Once I recreate the redirect, I would like a hard protection placed at said redirect to stop people from overwriting it. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 23:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, that, I did not get. Thanks for the explanation, Jezebel's Ponyo. I think a redirect is fine, FoxyGrampa75. I'll check and if you haven't already created it, I will. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:18, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks, Thegooduser. I'll check my email later tonight. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thegooduser, I didn't get a message. In fact, I haven't gotten any messages on my Wiki email account since May 3rd! Which is why I don't check it often. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:24, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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Restoration of article "Steven Paul Whitsitt"

Hello. I am requesting the restoration from deletion of the article "Steven Paul Whitsitt" created by me.

Please let me know if there's anything more you need from me to have the article restored. Thank you.

--Aerlenbach (talk) 17:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Aerlenbach! There isn't an article by that name but there is a draft page, Draft:Steven Paul Whitsitt. Draftspace is an area of Wikipedia where articles are worked on until they are in good enough shape for the main encyclopedia space. There are some editors that will move new articles into Draftspace from the encyclopedia if they think the articles don't have sufficient references or if there are other problems. This is perfectly normal, Draftspace (along with a user's sandbox) is where we work on articles and the page has not been deleted. Let me know if you have other questions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:31, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Liz, How can I get my draft article undeleted? Thanks for your help. Aerlenbach (talk) 17:15, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Did you read my message, Aerlenbach? As I said, there is no article by that name, it was not deleted so nothing needs "undeletion". It was moved to draft space. You can find it at Draft:Steven Paul Whitsitt. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:17, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Liz thank you for all of your help and sorry for the confusion. --Aerlenbach (talk) 18:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Category:Fictional bisexuals

Why should Category:Fictional bisexuals be deleted as opposed to deleting the new Category:Fictional bisexual and polysexual characters? From what I can see, what the new category holds is what the old category should hold. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Flyer22 Reborn: I simply tag empty categories that appear on the Wikipedia Database list. Then they sit for 7 days. If someone assigns an article/page to the category (as in this case) during that week, the deletion tag is removed. If it remains empty for 7 days, the category is deleted.

BUT unless the category has gone through CfD, it can always be recreated if needed! My goal has always been to have a healthy category system that is logical and follows Wikipedia guidelines (and is USED!). Category:Fictional bisexuals was empty (and there are a lot of reasons why this could happen) but now it is not empty and I've removed the tag. If you think Category:Fictional bisexual and polysexual characters is not needed, propose deletion or merging at CfD and there is a good chance your proposal will be approved. Be well, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:44, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Liz, I just meant that something was off about Category:Fictional bisexuals being empty while the new Category:Fictional bisexual and polysexual characters held material that the previous category should be holding. I knew it had something to do with the creation of the latter category. I was also thinking that, although the previous one might be recreated, it's best that it doesn't lose its edit history. Anyway, looking here and here, I see that Timrollpickering took care of the matter. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — Useddenim (talk) 12:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

If you have any issues with my editing, please just let me know, Useddenim, and we can discuss it. Happy editing, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

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Regarding deletion of Wagyu (comedy duo) - May 2019

Hello, this is in regards to the deletion of the page Wagyu (comedy duo). It was marked for speedy deletion because it was potentially advertisement and promotional. I am somewhat confused by this because there is no intention to intentionally promote anything, if I have written in a way that seems so, I apologize. The subject in question is a famous comedy duo from Japan that have several television appearances and certainly fit the notability guidelines and if you go on their Japanese Wikipedia page or any other research on them, you'd agree that it is deserving of an encyclopedic article. If possible, can you please revert the deletion so I can make appropriate changes or at least be given a chance to contest the speedy deletion? Thanks

FreshUdon (talk) 12:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, FreshUdon,

I have restored the article and moved it to Draft:Wagyu (comedy duo) where you can continue to work on it. While it is not mandatory, it would really help the article avoid deletion if you could find some reliable sources in English or if you could translate the Japanese names for the newspapers/magazines/websites with English equivalents so that reviewers can see what they are. I think the article might be tagged because editors on New Page Patrol could not evaluate the quality of the sources because they were in Japanese. And, even if you are a fan of the duo, avoid overly complimentary language and try to write about this team in an even-handed, objective way. You might include any criticism or controversy involving Wagyu in order to be seen as less promotional. Let me know if you have other questions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:47, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

SPI

Yes, Derry Girls is well worth watching. Call it your reward for dealing with the sockpuppets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2uU0vnu0ZY Cabayi (talk) 07:27, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Cabayi! I wish BBC America would play these great British shows instead of endless Star Trek reruns all day. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Why did you delete the page =Title=?

99721829Max (talk) 16:04, May 28, 2019 (PT)

Hello, 99721829Max,

If you look at =Title=, you'll see that I was the third administrator to delete this page. Admin EncMstr deleted it on May 25th (it was tagged CSD G14: Unnecessary disambiguation page: nonsense link unlikely to be referred to) and admin SlimVirgin deleted it the day before (it was tagged CSD R3: Recently created, implausible redirect). The page also was tagged CSD R3 when I deleted it. So you have THREE editors who tagged it for deletion and then THREE admins who later deleted the page vs. you, who want to keep the page. You can see explanations of all of the criteria for speedy deletion (like G14 and R3) at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. You also see further information about deleting redirects at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#When should we delete a redirect?.

I think the better question is why on Earth you thought anyone would be looking for "=Title=" on Wikipedia! What page would they be looking for? I think R3 was appropriate, it is an implausible redirect that no reader would ever type in the search field. And since you were so persistent, the page is now protected to prevent future recreations. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the deletion of Petroteq Energy Inc.

Hello Liz,

I would love your help understanding why my article was deleted again and how I can make the necessary changes? You declined my article for the below reason - Declining; "draft reads like placed PR, and the "Patented Clean oil Recovery Technology" subheading is blatant advertising. Possibly a WP:NCORP failure as well." However, this company has a patented process called C.O.R.T. and it stands for Clean Oil Recovery Technology. I am not attempting to advertise and am not affiliated with this company in any way. I am simply a writer and activist who wants to write more articles on clean energy. I looked directly at the source page from a similar company on wikipedia when creating this one (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anadarko_Petroleum&action=edit). Can you please tell me what I am doing wrong and allow me to finish this article?

Thank you, Nikko — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikko Curtis (talk • contribs) 19:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Nikko Curtis (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Nikko,

Can you give me the exact name of the page? Was it a draft? I didn't tag your article for deletion but I guess I checked it out and followed through on the deletion. But I edit a lot of articles and it would be helpful if you gave me a link to where your deleted article page. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:46, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

84.64.16.0

Could you please block user:84.64.16.0. She has been vandalizing constantly for over 10 minutes. CLCStudent (talk) 00:48, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I've blocked them for 48 hours, CLCStudent. Please keep an eye on them and let me know if there are continued problems. Thank you! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:53, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

You bet I will keep an eye on her. CLCStudent (talk) 00:54, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Tashi

Hi Liz, you may or may not already know this, but I'm guessing Tashi was blocked for that struck and suppressed comment at 20:26, 21 May 2019 in that ANI discussion (they apologized at the end). On that guess, I've copied and pasted some advice on their talk page on how to appeal a block. starship.paint (talk) 01:09, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

If it is suppressed, I can't see the comment but I trust in the decisions of our oversighters. As a principle, I think there should always be a way for blocked editors to appeal their block, even if it unlikely to have their unblock request be granted. Thanks for letting me know Starship.paint. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

The comment's actually still there, it appears that only a specific link was suppressed. Cheers, starship.paint (talk) 01:30, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

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Deleted page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roger_Boore

Hi Liz,

Could you please reverse the deletion of this draft page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roger_Boore

I am planning on working on this page.

Thanks in advance :) (I apologise if this is not the correct process, I'm very new to wikipedia) --LeadRoleInACage (talk) 04:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, LeadRoleInACage,

I'm sorry to just be seeing your message. You did the absolutely correct process, to restore an expired draft, you need to either contact the deleting administrator or go to WP:REFUND. The draft is back and can be found at Draft:Roger Boore. Again, my apology for the delay. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:32, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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Bkissin (talk) 19:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Did I hurt some feelings?

I'm sorry, it's just the admins around here don't ban editors that are solely here to insert their nationalist bias across wikipedia. I'm sure accounts which make ten of thousands of edits each to support extremist ideologies are a positive effect on wikipedia, really they must be why else would they keep being allowed to edit after a dozen blockings, topic bans, and even "permanent" bans. Thanks for the warning, I'm sure you won't do anything to stop editors with an agenda as long as they are half-civil during their attacks on wikipedia.

P.S. your passive aggressive template to edit your talk page is wonderful! It makes me feel welcome to be here. Of 19 (talk) 23:26, 4 June 2019 (UTC)