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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• Why are we using ‘wins’ instead of ‘is elected’ in the blurb on the US election (we used the same wording back in 2016 as well)? Such wordings are typically used for show elections in authoritarian countries.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:22, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  I wasn't sure exactly which wording was most accurate so I looked back at Biden's ITN, where we used "wins" and went with that. I wasn't sure how accurate it was to describe him as having been elected, when at this point it's just that major news orgs are calling the race. Sam Walton (talk) 11:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  FWIW, "wins" was used previously for Biden.[1] —Bagumba (talk) 12:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  At this time, "wins" is more correct than "elected" as he is only elected in early January when the electoral college votes are certified. --Masem (t) 13:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• US Senate Donald Trump (pictured) wins the United States presidential election and Republicans take control of the Senate.: The bolded presidential election link doesn't cover the Senate results. 2024 United States Senate elections should be included, but that page does not have updated sourced prose on the results. Recommend pulling the Senate results from the blurb until that page is improved.—Bagumba (talk) 12:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  Strictly speaking, the Republicans won't "take control of the Senate" until 3 January 2025. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  I noticed this too and agree with all the points that Bagumba makes. Note that the blurb now reads: "Donald Trump (pictured) wins the United States presidential election and Republicans are set to take control of the Senate." which makes the Senate bit sound even more tentative and inappropriate. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  It's not tentative at all. The results of the election will put Republicans in control of the Senate on 3 January 2025. That is as definite as election results can be. It's just that most of the world seems unfamiliar with the multimonth waiting periods for many American election results to go into effect. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 20:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  Be that as it may, none of the linked articles verify this and so the claim fails core policy. Andrew🐉(talk) 21:33, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• Donald Trump (pictured) wins the United States presidential election and Republicans are set to take control of the Senate. Change "Republicans are set to" to "the Republican party is set to" for context. Cremastra (u — c) 20:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

  I've tweaked it. Schwede66 21:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

• Should this say "In the 2024 United States elections, Donald Trump.... " or some sort? The blurb seems to have no context, and the Senate mention seems awkward with context. Natg 19 (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

  No, we don't include election years ITN as it should be clear from context that we are talking about the present election. I can't quite understand the second part of your concern, Natg 19. Could you please clarify what you mean? Schwede66 03:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I suppose my 2nd concern is the same as the above ones, in that the wording for the Senate victory should include the election article for clarity. The current blurb doesn't flow well, as it is discussing two separate (but related) elections. Natg 19 (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I see. Can you (or anyone) make a specific suggestion what the blurb should be? Schwede66 03:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

Nov. 6, 2024 DYK states Vivian Stranders is a "British-born Jew" who became an officer in the SS ,,, nothing in the main article suggests this Nazi was born a Jew or ever practiced Judaism. This person was an officer in the RAF who became a German intelligence asset and then a German and a Nazi officer. Again, the DYK is wrong. Better might be DYK " Vivian Stranders was a British -born RAF officer who became a German spy and a Nazi officer." —68.129.185.93 (talk • contribs) 02:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I hope you won't mind I added an "a" before "German" in that suggestion. Art LaPella (talk) 03:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Per article "Stranders was Jewish and some of his SS colleagues suspected him of being a British spy." The ref 31 supporting has "Vivian Stranders, an Englishman who had served in the British Army [...] Astonishingly enough, this long-standing British member of the NSDAP and SS was also Jewish — a fact known to at least some of his colleagues" (no page numbers available) JennyOz (talk) 03:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

• The new entry for International Inuit Day should be bolded and maybe have its inaugural year added... however, it's a stub? JennyOz (talk) 03:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

  I've nuked it. If someone can expand it beyond stub level in the next 20 hours, please say so (here) and we can put it back. Schwede66 03:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Tomorrow's OTD

• Intersex Day of Remembrance should be bolded? JennyOz (talk) 04:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
• 1932 – The Australian military withdrew from their "war against emus" in - Emu War appeared at OTD last week, on November 2. JennyOz (talk) 04:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(November 8, tomorrow)

Monday's FL

(November 11)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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General discussion

Olympics

Wouldn't this be better?

*The 2008 Summer Olympics is underway after the Opening Ceremony held at the Beijing National Stadium on August 8, 2008.

DORC (talk) 12:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree, minus the date. Added links. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 17:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, the 2008 Summer Olympics were already underway before the Opening Ceremony was held. Football started two days early. --PFHLai (talk) 23:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Well how about the following? :)

• The 2008 Summer Olympics is continuing after the Opening Ceremony held at the Beijing National Stadium.
  
  --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 17:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would something continuing after the opening ceremony be news? --74.14.20.198 (talk) 03:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Olympic rings

Might be an idea to add a small olympic rings icon to the Olympics highlights link in the In the News section to give it more prominence - they appear to be public domain now. Not totally sure if this is the right place, but it does concern the main page rather than being a suggested in the news item. Jw6aa (talk) 17:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Check out Template talk:In the news#Olympic highlights. --Howard the Duck 17:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

What happened to the Olympic updates link that was next to the deaths and news? I thought that was a great page and idea... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.79.8 (talk) 23:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Ya I agree put it back on. Thankyoubaby (talk) 23:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Summer_Olympics_highlights this is the one, I believe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.79.8 (talk) 13:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

An admin mini-wheel-warred (good thing the second party didn't return the favor) but it's now back. –Howard the Duck 04:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

2 500 000 articles!

Any forecast for when this will happen? How many articles where added since yesterday? OWP 219.94.38.41 (talk) 07:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Within 12 hours is my guess.--Winterus (talk) 10:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You say before 23:00 UTC, then. I'll put it a little later, around tomorrow noon. Waltham, The Duke of 13:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Note that there is often a spurt of article creations as the number approaches as people aim to have one of their articles crowned the [number]th. Might join in myself... J Milburn (talk) 14:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

2.500.000 articles! incredible!

By the way, what article is the 2.500.000? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fixman (talk • contribs) 22:45, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm a bit curious about this as well actually, anyone's got the ability to find out? Lampman (talk) 01:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I think a developer (either Tim or Brion) had to query the database when we passed the 2,000,000-article milestone in order to find, with a reasonable degree of certainty, the 2,000,000th article. —Animum (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

2,500,000 articles...to think that there were less than 1,500,000 when I registered. :) I'm not sure who will be able to find out what the 2,500,000th article is, but I believe someone can. I think that Kanab ambersnail was the 1,500,000th article. Impressive. Acalamari 01:52, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I remember when it was a huge deal when we hit a million!
[www.nationwidesalvage.co.uk] *waits for someone to talk about the days before 100,000 articles* hbdragon88 (talk) 01:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It was definitely an article created by Wizardman (talk · contribs), during his stub creating spree. The current thought is that Joe Connor was the milestone. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 02:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

This is incredible. When I joined Wikipedia, we had about 2 million articles. Now we have 2.5 million articles. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 02:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

When I joined, we had less than 1 million. :P I was *taps fingers* 13 when I created an account. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 09:24, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

When I joined, there were fewer than 400,000... ;-) Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 13:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh look, a pissing contest. Well sorry Sam, when I joined there were only 150,000 articles.  ;-P Dragons flight (talk) 15:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Its odd but when we hit 1.5 million articles there was a thanks to editors for creating them message on the front page. Now we have hit 2.5 million it seems some people are embarrassed that we have reached this figure given tha a high proportion are still stubs or unreferenced. Wikipedia has more than doubled in size since I started when it had 1.1 million. ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 13:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

How verifiable is Joe Connor as the 2,500,000 article? If someone can show some proof, I'll put a note in the {{Main Page banner}}. Happy‑melon 13:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I've seen several different possibilities, so I doubt it's certain enough to add to the Main page. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 13:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm probably wrong. But anyway, the main page says '2,501,192' ... so I went to New Pages and went back 1,192 pages ... I came up with 2003 Philadelphia Eagles season? Latics 17:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't work because there is at least one deleted article for every three created. Hence you have to count back at least 1/3 further to figure out what was 2500000 at the time it was created. Really though, you want to cross-reference creations with the deletion log to reconstruct the at the moment total. Dragons flight (talk) 17:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[nationwidesalvage.co.uk]

I figured as much. But really, crosschecking new pages and the deletion log ... too long and boring for me. :P Latics 17:55, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

You also need to figure in articles in the move log, due to the large number of editors who prepare articles in the user space and move them to article space when ready. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me | Review me} 18:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. All this talk of large numbered articles. What of the first article? And if it was the Main Page (which I suspect someone will suggest) what then was the second article? --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 00:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:UuU contains the oldest edit, so it was probably the first article, before it was moved. – FISDOF9 00:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, the first edits were by Jimbo. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

This page may be of interest to you. Short answer- we don't know. J Milburn (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

You young whippersnappers! There were fewer than 20,000 articles when I started. 8-) Anyway, I don't think we should worry about the number of articles as much anymore (recall Jimbo: Quality not quantity). In fact, I think we should say something like 'XXX,000 articles that probably don't suck in English' (with the number a total of all B class and above articles). I'm only half joking. --mav (talk) 02:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

It would have to be a general number, as only a bot could viably keep an accurate count going, and the community is still subject to moral panic at the thought of adminbots. See Template:FA number and its history for a ugly hack to give the community an FA counter, and the failed attempt to work around the admin requirement to get it on the Main Page. - BanyanTree 08:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

The current "thanks for over 2.5 million articles" banner

{{editprotected}}

I know it's nitpicking, but, on the other hand, many people are likely to read this banner, so: I think there's a hyphen missing between "English" and "language", no? Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Done. ffm 14:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks. I think I can go on living now. Sardanaphalus (talk) 15:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I wonder when will the quality over quantity peeps begin to wreak havoc... –Howard the Duck 16:59, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I have in the section above. :D —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 19:00, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

That's enough

Right now, Howard. Okay, we get the point we have lots of articles. Way too many articles. After 24 hours I'd appreciate it if the banner was taken down so we don't give people the idea that thousands of stubs are good. When we say quality, not quantity we mean it. Reywas92^Talk 19:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps when we finally track down the 2,500,000 article and link it from the main page, we can see how quickly it develops. Rather than assuming that the glass is half-empty and bemoaning the poor quality of the article, whichever it is, why don't we all try and improve it, and all its 6907164 friends, to be the best it can be? Happy‑melon 20:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, random thought... We put examples of our best articles on the main page, why not put some crappy ones up to see if they get improved. Mr.Z-man 20:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

That's actually a great idea. Punctured Bicycle (talk) 20:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Like so, may be: Featured page of crap? :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Bad idea (if it was a serious suggestion). Main page is for readers, not editors. J Milburn (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It's actually a great idea. Basically DYK but with less developed articles. DYK is nice, but there isn't as much that could be added to them. Reywas92^Talk 21:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I clicked that random link and actually got a pretty good article. I think it's a great idea - but no on the Main Page. Like J says, the Main Page is for readers, not editors. We want it to be transparent to the workings of Wikipedia as much as possible. High prominence on the CP? —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 21:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Howabout a "You Can Help!" page; find stub articles and then rotate a set list of them akin to DYK, FA, etc? That way, stub articles get noticed and people can add their input in.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Why is this message in Verdana when the rest of the page is in Arial? Basic graphic design; you don't use fonts that are that similar (both sans-serif). howcheng {chat} 23:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, we should asertain what the article is first before we make the effort of listing it as the 2,500,000th article. If I remember right, the 2 millionth was an episode of a short lived mexican comedy show, and the article was terrible quality. Odds are, the 2.5 millionth is something just as mundane. --Simpsons fan 66 06:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

El Hormiguero, which was a show from Spain, btw. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

And does it have to be brown? I don't know of a better color, but it just looks like a stain. ALTON .ıl 07:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Keeping Wikipedia guarded from dumps of "bad" quality articles is good, and let's continue this brave fight. But why not have a parallel kind of Essentialpedia, with much more stringent criteria for inclusion? Daughter of Mímir (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

That's Veropedia. J Milburn (talk) 13:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

IMHO, bringing an article up to FA status isn't worth it. It stays there for a day on the main page for what? It gets vandalized 100x than normal after other people strip you of your dignity at WP:FAC? I'd rather see the articles I've worked on cited somewhere, like even on a web discussion forum or websites themselves, that means the article was good enough. –Howard the Duck 09:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

That's not what having a featured article is about, I don't think. I have a grand total of one featured article, and I feel I have achieved what I wanted with that article. Like with DYK- for me, it's not that it appeared on the main page so much as that it was good enough to get some 'official' recognition. J Milburn (talk) 13:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Besides, everyone knows the real reason people make featured articles. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 04:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposal to celebrate historic anniversary of recording technology by putting the first couple bits of recorded music on Main page

Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Early_audio_files_on_main_page.3F Given the anniversary is tomorrow, I figured we'd best sort this quick =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:47, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

It sounds like a good idea, but I'm not certain that all of our readers will have the necessary software to play it. Where would the sound be placed on the page? —Animum (talk) 16:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Replace the featured picture for the day. Tomorrow's featured picture has already been chosen, so I think this suggestion is a little late. I am pretty sure someone could put it on OTD uncontroversially. J Milburn (talk) 16:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Now we have ~5 years to plan ahead for the 125th anniversary. No more excuses for any more last minute requests! --74.14.20.198 (talk) 03:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, this one came in too late. It would've been cool though. –Howard the Duck 05:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Instead, there is something currently on OTD mentioning The Lost Chord being played during that London press conference. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Phelps???????????

Why is a news headline stating Michael Phelps has won and olympic gold medal? This is unfair as coverage was not given to Nicole Cooke winner of the ladies cycling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.184.1 (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Because Phelps has now won more medals than anyone else. J Milburn (talk) 18:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

He has won more Gold Medals than any Olympian before him, although a track athlete pointed out this was because of the amount of races that swimmers compete in- if track athletes had the same opportunity they would have won just as many more often...Gavin Scott (talk) 01:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

It's not for us to judge IOC rules. We just count medals, and Phelps broke a record. --74.14.20.198 (talk) 02:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I was just passing comment. Gavin Scott (talk) 03:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Ditto. --74.14.20.198 (talk) 03:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Has anyone noticed that his article has been hacked or something? 200.168.138.59 (talk) 04:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

'In the news' of the front page better be general than trying to be very on topic

For example, the Georgia-Russia incident advances too fast to make sense on the front page: a) Russians are withdrawing attack and generally the changes of the whole incident are too many to catch anyway, and b) there's talk of efforts in 3 international organisations while a very important one, UN which made at least 3 security council sessions on the matter (even if they failed) is not even mentioned. --Leladax (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

To propose a new headline on ITN, pls go to WP:ITN/C. --74.14.20.198 (talk) 02:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Russia-Georgia War

I suggest, do to the unreliablilty of sources, that we take the news our all together, we have sources saying they are pulling out, that they are driving past gori, that they have gori, they don't have gori. honestly, we can'tr just keep updating the situation based on weak and currently, unreliable sources.--Jakezing (talk) 16:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry? If you have a concern regarding reliability of sources, please raise your concerns on the appropriate article talk page. J Milburn (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Georgia: Not "fighting" but pillaging

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2008_South_Ossetia_war#Frontpage_sentence --Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog (talk) 01:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

To propose a new line on ITN, pls go to WP:ITN/C. --74.14.20.198 (talk) 02:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

More on Russia/Georgia conflict

Given the reports of continued Russian troop movements, perhaps we jumped the gun a bit in reporting that: "Russia calls an end to its military offensive in Georgia..." They may have said they were halting the offensive, but it does not look as if this is actually the case. Blueboar (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. Plus, as I said, people may be dying (killed by rampaging Russian militias) but it's not "reports of fighting". There's no combat now. --Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog (talk) 02:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

To propose a new line on ITN, pls go to WP:ITN/C. --74.14.20.198 (talk) 02:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello

Why is the time 1 hour slow? Tharnton345 (talk) 05:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

As stated near the top of this page, the current date and time are in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). If your local time is Western European Summer Time or British Summer Time, then it would seem like it is one hour slow. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Assumption/Dormition

Why is the Assumption of the Virgin Mary (Roman Catholicism)/The Dormition of the Theotokos (Eastern Catholicism and those Orthodox on the New Calendar) not listed in the "On this day..." section for August 15? This is one of the most important and celebrated feasts within these faith traditions and celebrated by over 1.4 billion people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.1.233 (talk) 04:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Because no one suggested/edited it on WP:OTD or Talk:August 15. –Howard the Duck 07:07, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Anniversaries

Will someone heed the anniversay discussion before the day ends? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalco (talk • contribs) 13:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry? Anniversary of what? J Milburn (talk) 13:08, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

'In the news' shouldn't give focus (bold letters) on an 'appointed' dictator but to the dictatorship

Democracy should be respected, it's more NPOV promoting than Dictatorships. Apotetios (talk) 16:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The news is that the leader has been officially put into power, not that the dictatorship continues (not that I have any opinion on whether it is a dictatorship, nor do I feel that Wikipedia should, for obvious reasons). Promoting democracy is obviously not more NPOV than reporting what happened- there are a lot of people who reject elements of democracy for one reason or another, myself included. J Milburn (talk) 17:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Bolding is only used to indicate which page got updated with the news materials. Don't read too much into things. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 18:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Lugo's back!

File:Lugos chasing kitty.jpg

"I'm back!"

Remember when his pic was there before - he was on the frontpage for months (or so it seemed)! Lugnuts (talk) 17:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Shall we take bets on the over/under on how long it stays this time? 5:15 17:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Not for long -- his article doesn't seem to have much new materials added recently. His electoral victory was already on ITN when the voting results were announced. Not sure how this qualifies for ITN. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 18:58, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Ugh not him again! I was just about to say that he was just up there for months and now he's back again? Come on!--Ninthcloud2 (talk) 19:34, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Teheee- I was just coming here to say the same thing. Raul654 (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I was just making sure I don't go back to the main page until that picture's gone ;P...... Dendodge .. Talk^Contribs 20:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

You might be boycotting it for a while. :-P —Animum (talk) 03:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Amazing... 70.16.30.146 (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Every time you masturbate, Fernando Lugo appears on the main page. Lovelac7 01:14, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I was also coming here to say the same thing. Haha :P. Lugo drove us all crazy. ¡Amigo se te había extrañado un montón! And yes of course that's true. We missed you, Fernando. Thanks (Thanks?) for coming back.--J.C. (talk) 04:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Phelps

Why the anti-Lugo bias ? Would you people prefer getting Michael Phelps back on ITN ? His face has been on MainPage for 3 straight days already. I'd rather have a new pic on ITN every time I masticate. --PFHLai (talk) 04:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Yay Lugo! Take that, Wikipe-tan! 86.44.17.5 (talk) 06:10, 16 August 2008 (UTC)