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Alexander Wood

Just to fill you in, regarding your talk page comments from a couple of months ago at Talk:Alexander Wood (merchant): per the Dictionary of Canadian Biography entry, I was able to confirm that whoever originally added that statement simply linked to the wrong John Beverley Robinson in error; his father, Sir John Robinson, 1st Baronet, of Toronto, also has the middle name Beverley, was born in 1791 and already had a close professional association with William Dummer Powell even though he wasn't actually a political officeholder yet. Bearcat (talk) 18:02, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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So there I was, minding my own business

when my watchlist told me you were editing Nancy Wilson. "Groan" I thought. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that someone who knew and understood English grammar was doing it! You're making a grumpy old man very happy. Thank you. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Lauter Valley Railway and Landstuhl–Kusel railway

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Köppen or Koppen

Hi Kelisi. Regarding your edits ([1] - [2] - [3]), commenting, "no excuse". In English alphabet, I don't have to use diacritics not used in the alphabet, in fact, sometimes I feel that when I write here Köppen dotted, it may seem substandard, unless I'm explaining the origin of the name, not in articles which redirect to the main article, or writing in a language which uses the dotted ö. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 10:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

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BRD

For future reference, please see Wp:BRD if one of your bold edits is reverted. Don't just re-revert: go to the talk page. - SchroCat (talk) 17:34, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Since you so jealously guard all the James Bond articles as if you own them, it hardly seems worth the trouble to argue over one word when I know from previous experience that you are completely unreasonable, have no respect for our language and will oppose any effort to improve the English in any one of your precious articles. Scrutinize others' deeds, yet offer understanding. I think that's what I'd say.Kelisi (talk) 18:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

That old chestnut – "WP:OWN". As an outsider looking in, SchroCat could easily teach you a thing or two about the English language. Instead of carping about it, indulge in the advice given. -- Cassianto^Talk 06:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

As an outsider looking in who has awarded Gavin a barnstar, I think you mean. Outsider, indeed. I'm an English teacher, and holder of a degree in language, including linguistics, grammar, phonetics and phonology and semantics in three languages. Not many people here could easily teach me a thing or two about the English language. As for being a "chestnut" ("an old or stale joke" -- Collins; "a subject, idea, or joke that has been discussed or repeated so often that it is not funny any more" -- Cambridge), it's no joke, and never has been. Nobody owns any article.Kelisi (talk) 14:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Please get over yourself. -- Cassianto^Talk 14:55, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Gavin has posted his name on his userpage. Your award is in the history logs. I don't know which of those you meant, but I rather think your issue has more to do with you being caught in a bit of hypocrisy. Take your own advice, please.Kelisi (talk) 15:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Einollen

Many thanks for your extensive notes on Einollen. I have tracked down my ancestors to this area. They came to Australia in the 1850's and I hope to visit Einollen in the next few weeks looking for traces of them (Werner and Schuster). I was a bit depressed to see that the only famous person from the area was a Nazi rascist called Hermann Gauch! Is that the best the area can offer? Camerojo (talk) 07:02, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

(Not sure if this is where I should post my reply). My ancestor, Jacob Werner, was indeed a musician. He was in the Bavarian army but deserted, eventually making his way to Liverpool where he signed on as musician on a ship to Australia in 1855. He was born in Oberweiler-Tiefenbach (and it seems I have you to thank for that page as well!) in 1829. He and other members of his family were christened in the church of Einollen. I was hoping to find some birth/christening and other records in Einollen and Oberweiler-Tiefenbach - perhaps also some gravestones or cemetery records. Also I am interested in tracking down any remote cousins - descendants of those Werners who may have stayed in the region.

You name the mayors of the villages. I was thinking of trying to contact them before we go by means of an email in German, but not sure how best to reach them. Do you think that is a good idea? I presume you also have some connection with the area - is that the case?

By the way, my wife, who will be traveling with me, is an archaeologist and very interested in the Roman connections you mention in Trier. Thank you for that recommendation. Camerojo (talk) 23:17, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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Sorry, I missed the reference because I skimmed the list and it wasn't bolded - I'll be more careful next time. But please cut your fellow editors some slack; your comment was unnecessary, unkind and unCIVil. Bermicourt (talk) 18:33, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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Herem

I have restored all the tags you removed from Herem (priestly gift). You should not remove legitimate tags without solving the issues they were added for first. Debresser (talk) 16:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Your edits were reversed. Per WP:BRD you should first discuss and establish consensus before you edit again. If you continue to edit war over this, I will simply have you blocked. Debresser (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

By the way, you could have replied here. I usually watch the talkpages of people I post to. Debresser (talk) 17:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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Bananas used for cooking is not called plantains.. Green bananas are used for cooking in most of our Caribbean Islands.. Plantains are a type of bananas it's bigger and longer than bananas that are ripe.. We fry plantains preferably when it's ripened b...

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While you have fixed a diacritic, that didn't really need fixing, as it is covered by the disam page already in place, so while your talk page is littered with examples of not using disam pages, you have correctly fixed one, even though the Wp page on disam says to not only just fix one if that's all you're doing. They matter, but not enough when the link goes to wher it is supposed to go to anyway. Dave Rave (talk) 06:58, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea what the point of your message is, but my insertion of an umlaut was one of several edits I did yesterday at various articles as part of a housekeeping sweep that I do every now and then to deal with lazy users who couldn't be bothered to put the umlaut in the name Köppen; "Koppen" is simply wrong. His name was Köppen; he pronounced it like that. I'll just repeat the message that I commonly put in the summary slot when I do this: Diacritics matter. And they do, too. By the way, I see that your own Talk page is "littered" with one general kind of message; so no stone throwing in vitreous structures, eh? Kelisi (talk) 16:33, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Small world?

I was checking through my watchlist and saw your edit on Georgina River and was surprised to see the citation coming from my Renamed Places in Queensland webpage. I'm glad someone finds it useful (it's a never-ending task, it seems our ancestors couldn't resist renaming/misnaming/duplicating everything they could). If you ever don't find what you are looking for on that webpage, send me an email (it's on the page or talk to me on-wiki) and I will see if I can help. And thank you for your work on improving Queensland articles! Kerry (talk) 06:47, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Nothing is turning up for me on Chollarton (or variant spellings) in my various databases. I think the document we want to see is this map. Alas it is about 1700km south of me! But I shall make some enquiries. Kerry (talk) 15:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Using our "Ask a Librarian" service (reference inquiries), I have requested that the State Library of Victoria (who hold a copy of the map mentioned above) check it for any indication of the location of Chollarton. Fingers crossed that they are willing to do it and that Chollarton is marked on it. It can take a couple of weeks for these enquiries, so we have to be patient. 03:05, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

No joy. SLV were very kind and scanned the map for me but it turns out it is the same map as already appears in the article. So Chollarton remains a mystery. Kerry (talk) 02:35, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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I just noticed your recent edit to Collingwood, Queensland and was surprised to see NbW etc as directions. After some searching I found its meaning. I'm not sure how many people use this form in Australian English (I did a bit of a search and could not find any examples of it, but then I can't find Australian documents that use 32 compass points for any purpose). I guess I am concerned that the article will be less accessible to readers if the notation is unfamiliar. Kerry (talk) 05:39, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not disputing that it's the right name, but as a piece of terminology that nobody seems to use (e.g. most references to NbW on Wikipedia aare to Nebelwerfer weapon model numbers), I'm just not sure what use it is to the readers. Maybe if you linked any of these "by" directions to Points of the compass#32-wind compass points, it would at least help the reader figure it out. But looking at the table, I honestly think you could just approximate them to the better known 16 compass points, e.g. Albrighton appears to be NNW to my eye. Kerry (talk) 07:37, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

By the way, you mention that the Bing maps shows the streets in Collingwood. It doesn't show all of them. If you want to see the streets and the individual land parcels that were surveyed for the town (which all still exist as it seems nobody's bothered to aggregate them), you need to download the Queensland Globe (which is just a tiny XML file) and open it from within Google Earth. Then turn on the Land Parcel Boundaries in the Layers menu (left-side bar) on Google Earth. Details are here. It's *the* tool for anyone working with Qld geography; I have it running all the time when I am working on Wikipedia. The only problem is that while the Qld Globe layers are CC-BY, the underlying imagery is copyright, so you can't take screenshots for use on Wikipedia (which is a great pity). Kerry (talk) 07:37, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

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That file is published under a Creative Commons licence, which means that anybody may use it for any purpose, without charge. So you already have my permission. In case you were wondering, the sign was here:

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It has been replaced since I took the picture. The current pictures on Google StreetView, however, still show it there. Thank you very much for considering my picture. Kelisi (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

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I find it amusing that you claim that adding a maintenance tag was "pointless" while at the same time, because of said tag, you made a change which improved the article. Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 02:52, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Well car and Jacobs bogie

Closeup of a regular truck with specially adapted side bearings, not at all a Jacobs bogie, between two sections of an articulated well car

What you actually saw is a regular North American with specially adapted side bearings and special car end brackets. Peter Horn User talk 17:32, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Mea culpa. Kelisi (talk)

No hay broblema. Btw, brackets → brackets for lack of a better term. I would prefer structural bracket Peter Horn User talk 18:02, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Not all shared bogies are Jacobs bogies, see Talk:Jacobs bogie#Jacobs bogies and shared bogies for articulation. All said, your file shows an alternative to the articulated connector that I was unaware off. Peter Horn User talk 18:19, 13 September 2017 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 18:23, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

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Dear Kelisi,

I'm astonished by the work you have done in regards to German municipalities.

One thing to note: For translations from German to English and vice versa I'd strongly recommend using dict.cc over leo as only they do know the correct English translation for Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.

Best regards from Germany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4C80:40:40A:BACA:3AFF:FE76:2120 (talk) 07:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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Thank-you very much for your recent edits to Bruce McArthur! I have comments on a few of your choices. BTW, I'd wanted to avoid being overly formal with the language and was trying to stick with plain English for the average reader.

• strangling → throttling. I feel that strangling might be an easier word for most readers.
• because her data were academic Here I felt data is used as a mass noun and unquantifiable (like water), and that treating it as a singular works better.
• told him that that was no place to be gay I'll think about a rephrase to avoid that that.
• who → whom. There is a movement in plain English to do away with whom. I don't particularly care for that, but it apparently confuses some readers.
• I don't think there's any reason to replace html entities (eg: –) with unicode characters.
• excavating at 3 properties → three. Normally small numbers are expressed as words instead of numerals. One of the exceptions to this is when numbers may be compared, in which case numbers should all be in the same format (words or numerals). That paragraph has other numbers (30, 75, 100) which the 3 could be compared to. So I feel it's better to have it as a numeral.
• most prolific known serial killer. You removed a hyphen in most-prolific. This is a compound modifier and MOS recommends hyphenating these for clarity. I feel the hyphenated version is less demanding on the reader. Serial killer might also be hyphenated but I think most readers are familiar with that term. It may be more obvious with male sex worker which is ambiguous without the hyphen. (Is it a male prostitute, or a "worker" who is of the "male sex"?)
• amyl nitrate -Should this read "nitrite"?- One source says to possess amyl nitrates or "poppers," another took poppers, amyl nitrate, though I see the Wikipedia article says it belongs to a class called "alkyl nitrites" which I take to be an over-encompassing chemical group.
• cafe → café I would rather not use accents on loanwords. I don't believe there is any confusion to what a cafe (unaccented) is.
• f-- fa-ots → fucking fagots. The Bowdlerism is part of a published quote and I feel that it should be reproduced as published.

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The area is up for redevelopment, the house itself is a protected heritage structure. Likely move it elsewhere. I'll see what I can find in the local papers and let you know Oaktree b (talk) 12:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I see you're from Bolton. Almost a local :) https://www.newmarket.ca/TownGovernment/Documents/46%20-%202018-43%20Bogart%20House.pdf Oaktree b (talk) 12:54, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

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Although I agree that "altogether" has a different meaning from "all together", in most of the instances of the change you have been making, I think "altogether" was the intended meaning, and the changes you have made were unhelpful. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:22, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

"Altogether, 35 civilians were killed and only the château was left standing." — I would say that contention is a little incomprehensible. It is being used there to indicate a sum ("35 civilians"), and I hardly believe that it means that they were killed outright instead of being gravely wounded.

No, I am pretty sure the "all told" meaning was intended here, not the "utterly" meaning. Kelisi (talk) 17:57, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

"It is uncommon in western Africa where it usually occurs in small groups, but more plentiful, with large colonies, in eastern Africa. It is also common in southern Asia, but altogether its numbers seem to be declining." I don't think we agree on this one. Perhaps it is a British / American usage problem. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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Just checking to make sure I'm not crazy, I put paragraphs for several of your updated articles into Grammarly (a well known digital writing and grammar assistant), it flags your use of "all together" as wrong and suggests correcting it to "altogether". Also, I scored 100% on the quiz above. Techie007 (talk) 20:03, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi - I'm kind of baffled as to why you've changed "after the war" to "post-war" in every single circumstance over at Geisha with the reasoning "this isn't an office memo" and "cut the cool dude talk"?

For want of a better word (ha!), it seems snipey and to be honest, just kind of pointless. I'd get changing it in some circumstances for variety, but I can't say I've ever seen anyone call "after the war" "cool dude talk" - as in, too informal, too conversational. I'm just saying - I appreciate people helping out with the Japanese arts and culture articles, as sometimes it does feel like just me sweeping them up and rewriting them, but for the future, you don't have to go in so hard on a few grammar issues. We're here to build the article, and not everyone who contributes to the article has the best English, but a bit of WP:GOODFAITH wouldn't go amiss. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 21:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

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Plenty of vereran, prolific and well-respected Wikipedia editors have been banned. I call them as I see them. Kelisi (talk) 02:20, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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Ryanair destinations MAP

Hi,

It would be great if bases/destinations on the Ryanair Destinations map would be marked on different colours and if airport code could be added.

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My apologies. I lost your useful edit while attempting to revert back to a clean version. Thanks for restoring it. Meters (talk) 05:48, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

And I furthermore seem to have annihilated one of yours. I forgot to take into account that as a featured article, there might be heavy editing. Sorry. Kelisi (talk) 05:53, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

No, that wasn't you. That was just another one that I had missed the first time around. Meters (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

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Merriam-Webster dictionary - Curvaceous - "broadly : having a smoothly curving shape - e.g. a curvaceous coastline" this is additional to being directly linked to human female shape. Urselius (talk) 08:48, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Merriam-Webster's primary definition for that word reads: "having or suggesting the curves of a well-proportioned feminine figure". The "broad" definition is therefore a bit inaccurate — and in an encyclopaedia, we aim for accuracy. Furthermore, Merriam-Webster seems to be about the only dictionary that has the "broad" definition. Kelisi (talk) 17:24, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

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Jack Kehoe edit

I noticed that you reverted my removal of the "partner" value from Jack Kehoe. My reason for removing that value was that Sherry Smith is not mentioned in the text of the article, when an infobox is supposed to "summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". (MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE) Your reply, "But it IS supported in the references (namely Kehoe's LA Times obituary)" does not change the fact that Smith's being Kehoe's partner is not mentioned in the article's text. Eddie Blick (talk) 02:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

And so what you do is that. I'd call her a very significant other, given that she was with him for 40 years. Kelisi (talk) 04:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for making that change. The article is better with the relationship documented in the text. Eddie Blick (talk) 04:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

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It is not an "edit war", Chaheel, it is an attempt to remove crappy pretentious pseudo-French rubbish from WP, and there is no reason why anybody should be forbidden to do that. The term "nom de plume" is not used by educated French speakers — and come to that, nor by educated English speakers, who recognize it for the pretentious guff that it is. The French word is le pseudonyme. Je devrais mentionner que mes connaissances de la langue française sont assez avancées ! And my knowledge of English is likewise so. All that the inclusion of "nom de plume" in that article that you own shows is that you do not speak French, and have a very tenuous grip on English usage. The term "nom de plume" was invented in England (that's right, not France or any other French-speaking place) in the 19th century and used by those who wished to appear cultured, and they did, too — to those who knew no better. It is a substandard usage in both English and French, and I treat it as I would any usage of "ain't". Now, please explain why you think that "nom de plume" should be retained in that article? This mystifies me even without regard to its pretentiousness, for the term applies to writers of literature, not software companies. How about it? Kelisi (talk) 20:39, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Responded to the C&P on the relevant talk page. Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:56, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

While it is true that the word was forged in England, saying that the word isn’t used in French is incorrect, the word is present in all reference French dictionaries today (Larousse, Le Robert, TLFi) including the one from the very purist Académie française since 1935: https://dictionnaire-academie.fr/article/A9N0540 Thibaut (talk) 05:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Given the large number of changes you've made, I suspect a discussion should be here as a resource for all the other editors who may be trying to figure out what is going on. The earliest reference in the Oxford English Dictionary is 1841 and it quotes sources like the Daily Telegraph (a conservative British newspaper) in 1991. Pen name is actually a more recent word dating to 1864 and a back formation. Nom de plume is an English coining. The apparent earlier French language phrase for the same thing is nom de guerre (though as others have pointed out nom de plume seems to be in French now also). Pocket Fowler's has "A nom de plume (also in translated form pen-name) is a name assumed by an author to appear on the title-page of a book; a pseudonym is a name assumed more generally although this too is normally applied in authorial contexts." Nothing about it being substandard. In the case of Louie Crew, nom de plume probably best conveys the spirit in which he was using other names to write. --Erp (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

All right, all right! I guess I was wrong about that, but I still maintain that "nom de plume" is needlessly pretentious, getting a bit dated anyway, and much less common than "pen name". I could see that last point in the "What links here" list while I was doing my handiwork.Kelisi (talk) 20:16, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I've just noticed this particular sentence: "All that the inclusion of "nom de plume" in that article that you own shows is that you do not speak French, and have a very tenuous grip on English usage" - that's pretty close to not only a personal attack, but also an accusation of article ownership - both of which are frowned upon. Please redact them, thanks. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

You've only just noticed it? I can see that my first impression was right, then: it's pointless to discuss anything with you. You aren't interested in anything that I say. It looks to me as though you're just looking for trouble. Sorry, no nibble.Kelisi (talk) 20:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Nevertheless - it's still both insulting and accusatory. You don't have to bite - just redact your statement as a poor choice of words made in the heat of the moment. Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Are you going to redact your accusations? I've asked three times now. I feel quite strongly about unfounded comments such as those, and have given you multiple opportunities to take it back, simply by either editing to remove or striking through. You've been here since at least 2005, so it's strange that you would make such a statement then refuse to acknowledge when challenged. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:17, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Miscellaneous writers' grip on English usage

Continuing from here, some noms de plume or nom de plumes (with my emboldening) for your delectation:

• To the most faithful and skilful of these [pupils] the master bestows or bequeaths his name or a part of it, or his nom de plume (GO); and thus it is that the celebrated schools (RYUGI or HA or FU) of Japanese painting have been formed and perpetuated [...]. Henry P. Bowie, On the Laws of Japanese Painting.
• The Ballad of Reading Gaol was published early in this same year under the nom de plume 'C.3.3.,' Oscar Wilde's prison number. Stuart Mason, introductory text to Oscar Wilde: A Study.
• BEYLE, MARIE HENRI (1783-1842), better known by his nom de plume of Stendhal, French author, was born at Grenoble on the 23rd of January 1783. Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th ed.
• The greatest poet Cuba has produced after Heredia, Gabriel de la Concepcion Valdes, better known by his nom-de-plume of Placido, was born, not at Santiago,—although he passed some years of his life there,—but at Matanzas. Richard Davey, Cuba Past and Present.

It is imaginable that all these writers had no more than a tenuous grip on English usage, but I rather tend to think that it was no less firm than yours or mine. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, I don't know that Richard Davey could be called such a great writer. After all, he has misspelt "Gabriel de la Concepción Valdés" and "Plácido". Famous writers don't always get it right. Read about Pippa Passes and find out how Robert Browning once got it disastrously wrong (it's quite amusing, actually).Kelisi (talk) 07:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Davey was published by Scribner's, for a general readership. Provision of sorts for accented letters was considerably more of a pain for letterpress printing than inserting them is today, so it was common for non-academic books to dispense with such niceties. Yes, famous (or merely proficient) writers do indeed on occasion get it wrong; but when so many use a term that escapes alteration by the proofreaders and copyeditors of their reputable publishers, I'd infer that the term is well-formed within the particular language (here, English). How do you distinguish between what's acceptable and what you call "substandard usage"? -- Hoary (talk) 09:30, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022

If you do not stop your "nom de plume" disruption, you will be blocked. Cullen328 (talk) 17:21, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

You're a bit late. I've finished.Kelisi (talk) 20:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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