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*{{anchor|movereq-Khomasdal/version 2}} '''[[Khomasdal/version 2]] → {{noredirect|Khomasdal}} ([{{fullurl:Special:MovePage|wpOldTitle={{Urlencode:Khomasdal/version 2}}&wpNewTitle={{Urlencode:Khomasdal}}&wpReason={{Urlencode:Requested at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]] as uncontroversial ({{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requested moves|oldid={{REVISIONID}}#{{anchorencode:movereq-Khomasdal/version 2}})}}&wpMovetalk=1}}}} move])''' – restore edit history to article; the new content should have been merged into this article, instead of the new content replacing the old edit history and merged the old article onto the new edit history [[Special:Contributions/184.144.163.241|184.144.163.241]] ([[User talk:184.144.163.241|talk]]) 12:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
*{{anchor|movereq-Khomasdal}} '''[[Khomasdal]] → {{noredirect|Talk:Khomasdal/new history}} ([{{fullurl:Special:MovePage|wpOldTitle={{Urlencode:Khomasdal}}&wpNewTitle={{Urlencode:Talk:Khomasdal/new history}}&wpReason={{Urlencode:Requested at [[Wikipedia:Requested moves]] as uncontroversial ({{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requested moves|oldid={{REVISIONID}}#{{anchorencode:movereq-Khomasdal}})}}&wpMovetalk=1}}}} move])''' – this new article was moved in from userspace, instead of being added to the old article, it displaced the old edit history, which had content merged into it. This then becomes an edit history subpage, as the old page is what is merged onto, not the new. [[Special:Contributions/184.144.163.241|184.144.163.241]] ([[User talk:184.144.163.241|talk]]) 12:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


===Contested requests===
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This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 67 discussions have been relisted.

July 13, 2024

July 12, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Shakti pitha → Shakta pithas – Not really a very strong support from my end, but regardless, I thought this might merit a discussion among the WP community for the record. While contemporary usage among the vast Hindi-speaking population in India seems to prefer "Shakti pithas", references to the subject in traditional Hindu religious literature is unanimously as "Shakta pithas", so no wonder that every major scholar on Shaktism or Tantra has used that term. The only book on this topic even to this day is by the noted historian Dineshchandra Sircar. Other academic sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Also important to note here that the present scholarly consensus is that this very concept took shape in Bengal, so the fact that even historian Sachidananda Sarkar refers to the topic as "Shakta pithas" in his Bengali book মহাতীর্থ একান্নপীঠের সন্ধানে might be relevant to consider. Thanks. Jovian Eclipse 13:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:39, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 11, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Battle of Geneina → Geneina massacre – Referring to the page as the Battle of Geneina made sense when it was first created, but the June massacres and new details and reports revealing the amount of the destruction and killings shows that this was moreso a coordinated campaign of massacres and attacks by the RSF and allied militias against the Masalit people in Geneina, with just about every source highlighting the genocidal massacres and atrocities over the clashes. Jebiguess (talk) 03:00, 26 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 06:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Hurricane Alley → Main Development Region – Per WP:COMMONNAME. On Google Scholar, "Main Development Region" yields over 1,600 results[3] and "MDR hurricane" yields over 4,500 reults;[4] "Hurricane Alley" yields over 500 results,[5], with many not even pertaining to Atlantic hurricanes. Google trends is less clear, "Hurricane Alley" wins over "Main Development Region", but "MDR" bests both by far; "MDR" however can refer to many things. Nevertheless, that "MDR" or "Main Development Region" is overwhelmingly preferred in literature, NHC products, and our own articles—35 items link to Main Development Region, whilst only 5 link to Hurricane Alley excluding redirects and non-mainspace pages—leads me to believe this article should be moved accordingly. ArkHyena (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 10, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Tonlé Sap → Tonlé Sap Lake – The original name before renamed after the discussion Talk:Tonlé_Sap#Rename above, due to possible confusion with the river that connect the lake and Mekong. The name "Tonlé Sap Lake" is NOT redundant at all. In that discussion user Markalexander100 stated that "Khmer and English terms aren't quite equivalent. In Khmer, as far as I can tell, there is one name- Tonle Sap- which refers to the lake and river together, while in English we differentiate them." This is not quite right because the official name of the lake in Khmer is "បឹង​ទន្លេសាប" (Boeng Tonle Sap), where បឹង/boeng means lake. So clearly they still have the word "lake" in the name, to differentiate it from the river. ទន្លេ/Tonle means river and that's its only meaning, not "Tonlé already means lake (or a very large, wide river)" as stated by user Dara above. For example, Mekong is "Tonlé Mekong", Bassac River is "Tonlé Bassac", Kong River is "Tonlé Kong". There's no known translation as Tonlé to "lake". Another similarly named geographic feature is the Boeng Tonle Chhmar (a smaller lake next to the Tonle Sap Lake). So to sum up, if we say "Tonle Sap" (without adding "Boeng") to the Khmer-speaking people, theoretically we are referring to the river (according to the meaning of the words). But then since the lake is too well-known, the term "Tonle Sap" will become ambiguous. However, as a matter of fact, they should be able to tell which one you are referring to, based on the context of the conversation. My suggestion is to rename this article to Tonlé Sap Lake, and have a separate article about the river. Two options for this separate article's name is: #Tonlé Sap (as per its literal meaning in Khmer) or, #Tonlé Sap (river) and Tonlé Sap becomes the disambiguation page. The reason for having a separate article for the river is simply because not everything about the river can be merged into the lake's article. For example, Phnom Penh, the state's capital, is located at the mouth of the river and there's probably something about the river related to Phnom Penh's urban planning that's worth writing about. And merging these into the lake's article would be inappropriate. ទន្លេតូច (talk) 23:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sikkimese language → Bhutia language – I propose renaming the article "Sikkimese language" to "Bhutia language." The current title "Sikkimese language" can be misleading, as it may imply that it refers to all languages spoken in Sikkim. The term "Bhutia language" is more precise and accurately reflects the language spoken by the Bhutia community in Sikkim. **Reasons for the proposed change:** 1. **Clarity:** The term "Bhutia language" specifically identifies the language spoken by the Bhutia people, avoiding confusion with other languages spoken in Sikkim. 2. **Common Usage:** The term "Bhutia language" is commonly used in linguistic and cultural references, whereas "Sikkimese language" can be ambiguous. I would appreciate the community's feedback on this proposed change. Thank you for your input. Kkk1996 (talk) 17:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:59, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Roman Palestine (period) → Roman Palestine – This page was originally created over the redirect that currently sits at the base name, but this move was contested, so I have recreated the page with a disambiguated title. Roman Palestine is a period term for the portion of the history of Palestine characterized by Roman rule, from the time of the vassalage of the region after the Romans intervened in local politics until the Arab conquest. There are some slight variations to this, with the Britannica entry setting the start date as the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD, but as other sources show [6][7], 63 BC to 70 AD can also be characterized as "Early Roman Palestine". From the literature both on page and out there and discoverable, and not least the Britannica entry, it seems pretty clear that the period is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term. While the current redirect to Syria Palaestina strikes upon perhaps the most obvious constituent subdivision of the Roman period, there was nothing less Roman about the earlier Roman Judaea or the period of local dynastic vassalage still prior to this, or the Byzantine-era Diocese of the East period afterwards. On the contrary, it would be highly unusual not to consider the earlier periods also part of the Roman Palestine period (and to laser focus in on Syria Palaestina). Works such as Jesus and the Politics of Roman Palestine simply make no sense if you exclude Roman Judaea from the equation. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Oho Ou → Ou Hao – His name in Chinese characters is 欧豪 (Ōu Háo in pinyin). It's written in Latin script on posters, disc cases and distributors' pages for films he's acted in as Ou Hao. Some examples: * [8] * [9] * [10] (in the billing block on the back) * [11] (in the billing block on the back) * [12] (in the billing block on the back). It's written in Latin script on the covers of music releases and on Apple Music etc. as OHO, which is written as one word but sounds like both syllables of his full Chinese name. The current article title, "Oho Ou", is a weird, unofficial mash-up of the above two spellings that makes no sense because it contains the Ōu sound of his family name twice (as Oh- and then Ou), both before and after the Háo sound of his personal name (as -ho). Converting it back into Chinese characters would get you "欧豪欧" (Ōu Háo Ōu), which is clearly wrong. As he's now known more for acting than music, I propose making Ou Hao the article title and mentioning in the opening that he's also known mononymously as OHO. Tempjrds (talk) 00:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 16:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Covanta → Reworld – Covanta was renamed to Reworld back in April. Since then, most people have been using the new name. This is not a controversial move, but I'm using this tool to request a move on account of my COI - I work for the article-subject. I'd also like to suggest a redirect from Covanta to the new Reworld title, replacing "Covanta" with "Reworld" throughout, and adding a "(previously known as Covanta)" at the beginning. NKR2009 (talk) 16:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Stray cow → Stray cattle in India – Contrary to the earlier discussion on this talk page, specifying "in India" seems like the correct level of WP:PRECISION in this case, to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article. As currently written this article is about the situation in India rather than the wider concept of stray cattle in general, and it seems enough of a standalone topic to remain so. Belbury (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 9, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Intellivision Amico → Amico (video game platform) – Due to recent developments and announcements, the Intellivision brand is no longer officially attached to the project, the company has announced its name change to Amico Entertainment and now it is not limited to a console but a series of products such as (currently) a mobile app with in-app purchases, a mandatory companion app and the upcoming/proposed controller and console, this name should be the most appropriate now. MexTDT (talk) 23:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Jutish → Jutlandic – I'm requesting a move to the new article, along with its associated talk page, because while the terms "Jutish" and "Jutlandic" can be synonyms and refer to either anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes', anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark, the terms "Jute", "Jutish" and "Jutic" normally refer to anything related to the ancient Germanic tribe called the 'Jutes' (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jute, Jutish and Jutic), while the terms "Jutlandic" and "Jutlandish" normally refer to anything related to the Jutland peninsula in Denmark, or the 'Jutlandic dialect' spoken in Denmark (according to the entries on Wiktionary, Jutlandic and Jutlandish), while the term "Jutlander" normally refers to anyone from the Jutland peninsula in Denmark (according to the entry on Wiktionary). But this definitely warrants further discussion. It seems we have five options here: # Retain the status quo, with the disambiguation page as the primary topic, # Move Jutlandic dialect to Jutlandic and retarget Jutish to Jutes, # Retarget Jutlandic to Jutish, # Move Jutish to Jutlandic and then do either of the following:  :: a. retarget Jutish to Jutlandic,  :: b. retarget Jutish to Jutes My personal preference is (4b), to move Jutish to Jutlandic and then retarget Jutish to Jutes, so I've styled the RM that way. But editors are also free to suggest whichever option they want in this RM. PK2 (talk) 03:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 18:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Tales of the Jedi (TV series) → Star Wars: Tales – Since this move made nearly three months ago has been objected to, here is an RM. I personally don't agree with the need as consensus was reached on the matter. Never the less, this anthology series had its first installment released as (formally) Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (commonly Tales of the Jedi) in October 2022, with it announced in April 2023 that it would get a second season (wording used by media outlets, though the quote from Filoni was "Tales of the Jedi was so fun the first time, I decided to do some more.") Subsequently, it was announced a year later in April 2024 that this second "season" was a new "installment", Star Wars: Tales of the Empire (commonly Tales of the Empire). This press release shows the use of both formal names as well as the key quote in my view (and the determination of the previous consensus) that Tales of the Empire was the second installment of the "Tales" series. Thus, an appropriate name to address this anthology series considering the formal name would be Star Wars: Tales, which provides a WP:NATURAL name. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel – I believe that enough time has passed since the last RM (which proposed the simpler "7 October attacks" name and closed with consensus to retain the current title) to re-propose a title change for this article. I believe that "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel" is the WP:COMMONNAME for this event, as seen in sources such as: * Al Jazeera: "... counter the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which saw ..." * Bloomberg: "... trapped in Gaza since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which prompted ..." * CBC: "... around the world since the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of Oct. 7 but are now ..." * CNN: "... from the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel being held ..." * Euracitiv: "... triggered by the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel in which ..." * France24: "Before the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that triggered ..." * ISW: "... spokesperson claimed that the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel was retaliation ..." * Middle East Eye: "Following the 7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel and subsequent ..." * NPR: "... Palestinian armed groups since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that set off the war ..." * NYTimes: "... including some who participated in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, and that ..." * Reuters: "... were involved in the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that precipitated ..." * Times of Israel: "... during and after the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel." * The Conversation: "... participated in the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, which resulted ... " * WaPo: "Since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, restrictions have ..." Many sources simply say "7 October" or "October 7 attacks" instead of spelling out the full name, but I believe that while "7 October attacks" could be a more COMMON name, I think that it fails WP:AT#Precision in favor of "7 October Hamas-led attack on Israel." DecafPotato (talk) 00:43, 15 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Magik → Magik (disambiguation) – As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Comics, the appropriate naming convention for a comics character most known by their codename (as is the case for Magik) is to have an article at said codename (examples cited include Batman and Spider-man). The only other character to carry that codename is Amanda Sefton, and that article no longer references Magik in the title (per the conclusion of the last RM). The articles at the current Magik article (which serves as a disambiguation page) are this article, a limited series about this version of the character, the aforementioned Amanda Sefton, two related music projects by Tiësto that are barely stubs, a brief article about a polish rapper, and a programming language which is not widely used. Based on this, I think it would be reasonable for this article to take up the page at Magik and the disambiguation to go back to Magik (disambiguation) (where it previously was) Darquis (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 11:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Vespina (aircraft) → Airbus Voyager ZZ336 – I am a close watcher of aviation generally and military aviation specifically, and I had no idea what this article title referred to. WP:AT states that when article titles have multiple possibilities, "editors choose among them by considering several principles: the ideal article title precisely identifies the subject; it is short, natural, distinguishable and recognizable; and resembles titles for similar articles." None of those are true to "Vespina (aircraft). Being strictly factual and naming it as <Aircraft (i.e. general type name)> <Registration (denoting specific aircraft> is much clearer. The current name is vague in the extreme. Mark83 (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Airborne Interception radar → Aircraft interception radar – The article's current title, "Airborne interception radar," is problematic for two reasons. First, the claim that "AI," an abbreviation used throughout the article, stands for "airborne interception" (in terms of radar) is unsourced, and is contradicted by a number of credible sources that state that "AI" has historically stood for "aircraft interception" (see sources below). The second problem with the original title is that it's misleading and/or confusing. There's an entirely different class of "airborne" radars NOT covered in this article: air-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar systems, which are designed to detect ships and surfaced submarines, and which are often installed on aircraft. (ASV radars are already covered, appropriately, in a separate article.) As this change may have significant impact, I'm submitting it as a request rather than making the change directly. Thanks. Supporting sources to retitle article to "Aircraft interception radar": * From the first entry in the article's Bibliography (AP1093D: An Introduction Survey of Radar, Part II (PDF). Air Ministry. 1946.)  : [opening statement, on page 6:] "Aircraft interception equipment, commonly known as AI [...]". * Henry E. Guerlac, 1987. "Radar in World War II". ISBN 0-88318-486-9. (https://archive.org/details/radarinworldwari0008guer/mode/2up?view=theater)  : [from p. 1123, in the glossary:] "AI: Aircraft interception. Radar to detect and trace aircraft from another airplane." * From "A Textbook of Radar". Edited by E.G. Bowen. United Kingdom, Chapman & Hall, 1948. (https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Textbook_of_Radar/K4I8AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA530-IA4&printsec=frontcoverv)  : [section title, p. 530:] "Aircraft Interception (AI)" * Norman Fine, (2019). "Blind Bombing: how microwave radar brought the Allies to D-Day". Potomac Books. ISBN 9781640122208.  : [page xv:] ABBREVIATIONS AND TERMS  : AI  aircraft interception  : [p. 70:] Influenced greatly by British needs, the initial radar projects — an airborne radar system for aircraft interception (AI) and a gun-laying radar that would track bombers overhead and automatically control the aiming of antiaircraft artillery pointed skyward — were strictly defensive at this time.  : [...]  : Britain also critically needed an aircraft-to-surface-vessel (ASV) radar system that could locate German U-boats from the air and destroy them before they could dive. * U.S. Radar: Operational Characteristics of Radar Classified by Tactical Application: AI—Aircraft Interception Sets. Joint Chiefs of Staff. 1 August 1943. [...]. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100410000309/http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/radar-8.htm)  : DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY -- NAVAL HISTORICAL CENTER  : 805 KIDDER BREESE SE -- WASHINGTON NAVY YARD  : WASHINGTON DC 20374-5060  : [Chapter heading, pp. 57-60:] AI--Aircraft Interception Sets .. Marnofaldi (talk) 17:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 03:49, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 8, 2024

  • (Discuss) – 2024 Pune car crash → 2024 Pune Porsche car crash – The word "Porsche" is a big identifier of this case - the brand of the car crashed is a big assosciation and that is how the case is often talked about in the media. People know it as the "Pune Porsche" case rather than the "2024 Pune car crash". Hence, for this article and this case, I believe the word Porsche should be added. The article thumbnail contains all references, more can be researched. To help my case, the article's thumbnail image is already the Porsche car model. Pharaoh496 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 07:00, 28 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 05:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 7, 2024

July 6, 2024

  • (Discuss) – Blackdown Hills National Landscape → Blackdown Hills – The article was renamed from "Blackdown Hills" to "Blackdown Hills National Landscape" earlier this year by Mark999 (talk · contribs), along with several others, at least one of which has since been reverted (North Wessex Downs). Unfortunately it seems I can't just revert this change, because the redirect has since been modified, so I'm going to have to do a requested move. There are a couple of problems with this move: # This article has always been about a range of hills that is a National Landscape (or AONB as was). The move has turned this into an article about a National Landscape that contains some hills. Except that in reality the majority of the article is still about a range of hills, the Blackdown Hills, that have existed long before they were designated as a National Landscape. The crucial difference can be seen in the fact that the standfirst sentence of this article no longer makes any sense. At the start of this year it read: "The Blackdown Hills are a range of hills along the Somerset-Devon border in south-western England, which were designated an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB) in 1991." Now it reads "The Blackdown Hills National Landscape is a National Landscape along the Somerset-Devon border in south-western England, which were designated in 1991 as an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)." This is especially a problem for this article, which reached "Good article" status having explicitly addressed the issue of it needing to be very clear about the difference. # WP:CONCISE: there are no other Blackdown Hills articles, there is no need to disambiguate this one or make it more complex than it needs to be. The argument for naming it "Blackdown Hills National Landscape" appears to be that this is an 'official' name, but (a) that argument only holds if this article is purely about the National Landscape conservation designation area, and not more broadly about a range of hills which still are simply called the "Blackdown Hills", and (b) that wouldn't trump the CONCISE guideline. We don't name of the Lake District article "Lake District National Park". Joe D (t) 17:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss) – Ismail Qemali → Ismail Kemal – I was researching on this topic and actually discovered that this figure's real name was Ismail Kemal, not Qemal or Qemali as several authors have inaccurately spelled it. The page was also moved to Ismail Kemal by CanadianFolks, though without any discussion so I thought I could request one. As they highlight, Ismail used the spelling "Kemal" in his signature (can be seen here) and also in his English memoirs, The Memoirs of Ismail Kemal Bey. The Albanian source Amfora says "King Zog I changed the Turkish name Ismail Kemal Bey Vlora to the Albanian version, Ismail Qemali or Ismail Qemal Bey Vlora, during the 25th anniversary of Albanian independence. This change occurred during Communist Albania, and his name is mentioned in the Albanian Encyclopedic Dictionary as Ismail Qemali". This confirms that his name's actual spelling was Kemal, not Qemali which was promoted by Zog I as part of his Albanian nationalist campaigns. As much as I would wish Ismail's surname to be Qemali, we have to face the facts so I would request it to be changed to Kemal. As a matter of fact, the sources on this article itself use "Kemal" rather than "Qemali" such as: *Skendi, The Albanian National Awakening (1967) *Kondis, Greece and Albania, 1908–1914 (1976) *Treadway, The Falcon and Eagle: Montenegro and Austria-Hungary, 1908–1914 (1983) *Hanioğlu, Preparation for a Revolution: The Young Turks, 1902-1908 (2001) *Blumi, Ottoman Refugees, 1878-1939: Migration in a Post-Imperial World (2013) These sources count for more than half of the article and I have only listed the sources on this article, I could go on listing several others though I think this is sufficient enough for now. Hoping for a quick move. DashnorKemalit (talk) 09:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • (Discuss) – Lunar soil → Lunar regolith – "Lunar regolith" is a much more accurate common term to refer to this specific Lunar surface material, and is generally a more favoured search term than "lunar soil" per google trends. The current title also unintentionally obscures this from pages like regolith, which discuss the concept more broadly that's being applied here. As others pointed out in the last move that was made, it's the more accurate term to use for this topic. I'm also requesting the same move for Martian soil. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 08:02, 27 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 16:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Gaza Strip famine → Starvation of Palestinians during the Israel-Hamas war – No source is saying this is a famine. They say near-famine, starvation, or famine-like conditions. Contrary to some claims, there is not one source in this article that declares a famine. The FRC said there wasn't enough evidence to declare a famine, and other sources agreed. But pretty much all reliable sources say there is starvation. In every report, most of the population is in some form of starvation, and sources have gladly accepted this term. Additionally, starvation has been confirmed by pretty much all humanitarian orgs, the UN, ICC, and ICJ. Also, there is no common name. I want to see evidence there's a widely used name. The name doesn't have to be this, but it should revolve around starvation in Gaza. Personisinsterest (talk) 01:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – Sexual and gender-based violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel → Sexual violence in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel – Gender-based violence is defined as "any type of harm that is perpetrated against a person or group of people because of their factual or perceived sex, gender, sexual orientation and/or gender identity".[6] It is not currently clear that this article deals with any such violence other than that of a sexual nature, and even then, the lede states that male Israelis were also subjected to sexual violence (which if true suggests that it was not gender-based). A previous discussion on this topic has also shown that many people do not understand what the term "gender-based violence" actually means, so whether including it in the title is usefully descriptive is quite questionable.

References

  1. ^ https://www.hdblog.it/smartphone/articoli/n587006/ho-mobile-offerta-nuovi-clienti/
  2. ^ https://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/2024/07/08/ho-mobile-100-giga-5-99-attivazione-1049663/
  3. ^ https://www.tomshw.it/smartphone/con-ho-mobile-hai-200gb-in-5g-a-meno-di-10eur-al-mese-per-navigare-al-massimo-della-velocita
  4. ^ https://www.linkedin.com/company/ho-mobile
  5. ^ https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2015-08&end=2024-05&pages=SS_Auriga|Charioteer_of_Delphi|HMS_Auriga_(P419)|AURIGA|Auriga_(constellation)
  6. ^ "What is gender-based violence? - Gender Matters". Council of Europe.
TRCRF22 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss) – 2024 Nuseirat rescue operation → Nuseirat raid and rescue – Most sources are dual referencing this as a raid, attack or assault rather than just as a rescue. Guardian "Israeli attacks in central Gaza killed scores of Palestinians, many of them civilians, on Saturday amid a special forces operation to free four hostages held there, with the death toll sparking international outrage." NYT "Israeli soldiers and special operations police rescued four hostages from Gaza on Saturday amid a heavy air and ground assault",CNN "Israel’s operation to rescue four hostages took weeks of preparation and involved hundreds of personnel, its military said. But the mission began with a trail of destruction in central Gaza and ended in carnage, according to local authorities." Selfstudier (talk) 15:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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