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::It looks like they had another go [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_cunt_hair_(2nd_nomination)]] <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Pbradbury|<font style="color:#AAD0FF;background:#fff;">'''Paul&nbsp;'''</font>]][[User talk:Pbradbury|<font style="color:#fff;background:#AAD0FF;">'''&nbsp;Bradbury'''</font>]]</span></small> 21:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::It looks like they had another go [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Red_cunt_hair_(2nd_nomination)]] <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Pbradbury|<font style="color:#AAD0FF;background:#fff;">'''Paul&nbsp;'''</font>]][[User talk:Pbradbury|<font style="color:#fff;background:#AAD0FF;">'''&nbsp;Bradbury'''</font>]]</span></small> 21:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:::I think that should be [[WP:DRV]]ed. I do not think that there was consensus to delete. I think you should also notify [[WP:ARS]] if you DRV it. Let me know if you do as well.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 01:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


== Thanks for the clarification Chzz. ==
== Thanks for the clarification Chzz. ==

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what is this thoug

http://toolserver.org/~bjelleklang/pjirc/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by IncredibleTreasure (talk • contribs) 17:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Erm. It's a link to a java applet that lets you chat to wikipedians on the IRC network, to seek live help.
Please remember to sign your edits on talk pages, by putting ~~~~ at the end of each. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  09:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Red cunt hair

What happened to Red cunt hair. I see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red cunt hair was no consensus.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed; I am making enquiries.
BTW, do I need to 'talkback' you, or do you watch?  Chzz  ►  02:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like they had another go [[32]] Paul  Bradbury 21:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that should be WP:DRVed. I do not think that there was consensus to delete. I think you should also notify WP:ARS if you DRV it. Let me know if you do as well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification Chzz.

Thanks for the clarification Chzz. And thank you for the welcome. I am not going to be able to get into the protocols of being a wikipedian over night. How do I find out who reverted it back and made the claim I was a Eurosceptic ranting?

If you happen to be passing by London some time perhaps anyone Interested could talk to the Mayor of London and discuss these facts, he know all about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfree (talk • contribs) 18:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(in reference to #NSDAP Wiki article, above]])
Go to the article and click 'History' - you can see every edit ever made, who made it, when, what they did etc. See WP:HISTORY. In this case, you;; see as line saying this;

08:38, 27 April 2009 DanielRigal (talk · contribs) m (54,888 bytes) (Undid revision 286353004 by Elfree (talk) eurosceptic ranting lacking any reliable source)


Please note, the best way to react to this is not to retalliate - instead, discuss the issue (not the person) with the user, politely, etc. You may consider their comment to be an attack, but to avoid unnecessary escalation, the best thing is often to ignore it.
Find a good verifiable reliable source, and add the info. Nobody can really argue with that. Although, in this specific case, there might not be one - therefore you might have to give up on adding that snippet.
Unfortunately, a personal conversation with Boris would not be a 'reliable source' - unless it's recorded and leaked to national media :-)
Hope that explains, cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help!!

Many Thanks--stb 22:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Staatsbuerger (talk • contribs)

Thanks from Sriramkri

Just read your messages on my profile. Thanks for the tips. Wanted to get your quick opinion about the CMUNE page. Is it okay, notability vice? I have stripped it of it's ambiguous information. Sriramkri (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC) --Sriramkri (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)--Sriramkri (talk) 02:42, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making the efforts etc, and yes, the strip-down version is better. The big problem remains, however - that it doesn't assert notability. It needs at least one reference to a reliable source, e.g. a mainstream newspaper, etc. As I've said in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CMUNE, I couldn't find one.
The point of AfD is to decide if an article should exist, not what the content of it is. The issue is notability. If something isn't mentioned in the newspapers, or a book, or something reliable, then wikipedia shouldn't have an article on it; that's the consensus policy.
I don't think that CMUNE meets the general notability guidelines, unfortunately; if you can find a suitable reliable source, like a review in a 'proper magazine' (not a blog, etc), then I'll be very happy to withdraw my nomination for its deletion.
Hope this makes sense; the nomination is nothing personal etc, just trying to improve wikipedia.
Also, please note, worst case - if it's deleted - you can get a copy of the article in your own user space. If you can then find a reference later, then it can easily be recreated.
Best,  Chzz  ►  02:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Absolutely not taking it personally! In fact, it's a learning curve for me. I understand and I am currently looking for references. It did get mentions on a magazine or two, but I am struggling to find the e-version. Nevertheless, I will go through the RS article again. Thanks. Sriramkri (talk) 03:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Random Acts of Kindness

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For going that extra mile to help me start working on Oakville Trafalgar High School. You're a great help, and always cheerful about it too. Thanks again, CanadianNine 03:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IRC barnstar :-)

[06:26] * [soap|bed] gives chzz a barnstar too: *
[06:26] <[soap|bed]> sorry it's so tiny
[06:26] <[soap|bed]> it came off my dollhouse

From soap (talk · contribs) (permission checked) :-)  Chzz  ►  05:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for offer of help

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ScribbleStick (talk · contribs)

Sslota

Thanks for helping out that user. They seem to be part of a class at Springfield College (Massachusetts) that was assigned to make new articles on Wikipedia concerning sexuality. I've contacted about a dozen of the accounts involved and asked them to ask their instructor to contact me, as there are some obvious problems with assignments of this sort, starting with the use of Wikipedia as a web host for class assignments. That said, they've added some useful content of variable quality, although the imperative to add new articles has led to overlap, as in Female contraception vs. Birth control. Needless to say, I haven't heard from the instructor, and I don't expect to. They have a tiresome habit of going around to each others' articles and patting each other on the back while ignoring input from editors outside the class circle, but I'm encouraged to see that one, at least, has asked the community at large (well, you and me) for help. Acroterion (talk) 12:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, thanks for that. I also raised it Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Student_project_Sslota at the pump, for reasons explained there.
Also, note - about my comments re. sectioning welcomes and using subst... as soon as I'd written that, I realized who you were (ie I noticed your experience), and instantly worried I might have sounded condescending; however, I didn't have the time to improve the tone of the note - had to log off. I hope no offense was given, certainly non intended, but I did worry that I was, sort-of, 'templating the regulars' so to speak.
Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I'm just having a cranky day, and no offense taken. I appreciate your help, and we'll see if there's any progress with the class project. The term ought to be almost over by now. Acroterion (talk) 20:02, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear I didn't offend. I'm a bit concerned that school projects in general don't get handled well on wikipedia- they don't seem to get much support. I think we're missing out on what could be a valuable input to the project (handled correctly). So - I'll be very interested to see what comes out of my pump request. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rival brands

I felt that Rival brand would be an extremely unlikely typo; and that it could mislead people looking for information on brand rivalries. Frankly, given that I don't expect Rival Brand to last out the hour, it also seemed like the cleaner thing to do, as otherwise a G8 would have to be done later. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for that; no worries; was only curiousity, really - the user was asking for help on IRC, and just as someone else tried to move, you did yours; they thought something had gone wrong in the process causing the redir not to happen; I figured what had really happened from the history, hence seeking clarification as to why. Just to improve my own understanding, really. Thanks a lot,  Chzz  ►  20:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube!?

I was wondering mostly if you could tell me how to cite Youtube, because there's an article I have that I'm trying to improve, and unfortunately I tried looking and found nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Random Checkhead (talk • contribs) 01:32, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but youtube is not considered a reliable source, and therefore you shouldn't cite it.
There was actually a discussion at the village pump on this very subject, in the last few days - can't find it at the moment. If I find it later, I'll add the link here.
If you need more help with this, let me know; give me the article name and details of what you're trying to do etc.
Cheers,  Chzz  ►  03:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Found it. Wikipedia talk:External links#YouTube, yet again.  Chzz  ►  04:45, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What if the information (a movie adaptation of a novel) came directly from the author's mouth? Would that still be unnaceptable? Random Checkhead (talk) 12:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really sure. On the one hand, I do see your point - if the author has declated things via a youtube video. On the other hand - well, we've all seen that videos can be manipulated. Perhaps it would be acceptable to use careful wording; "In a video on youtube, the author claimed that blah blah" <ref> (youtube url) </ref>. But I'm really not sure; perhaps you could make the part in your user area (User:Random Checkhead/youtube), and ask for comments in the article talk page, and/or in Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources. I think that that is the approach I would take.
Hope this helps?  Chzz  ►  19:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to create my own subpage. Rrrgh. I guess it's off to the reliable sources page! Thanks. (How do you create a subpage?) Random Checkhead (talk) 01:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bug in welcome template's use of REVISIONUSER

If you visit the current version of User talk:User390573, and click on the phrase "my own talk page", it will send you to User talk:ClueBot Commons, not to User talk:Chzz as intended. That is because the code "[[User talk:{{REVISIONUSER}}|my own talk page]]" incorrectly uses {{REVISIONUSER}}, which expands to the last user to edit that talk page (in this case, the cluebot) rather than to the user that inserted the notice into the talk page. Can you please fix this? Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 05:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention, and for the clear explanation; I will fix the template before using it again.  Chzz  ►  07:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, with [[User talk:{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>REVISIONUSER}}|my own talk page]].
Thanks to Splarka and TimStarling.
I will try to trawl through the old welcomes and fix them as much as possible.

 Done  Chzz  ►  08:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Helpful!

The Helping Hand Barnstar
For Chzz, for always being so helpful on both the IRC channel and directly on talkpages. Well done! --GedUK  07:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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IRP (talk · contribs)

Discussion ongoing Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#WP:RTED

Thanks for the sound advice Chzz.

Great advice and was not about to get into any personal flame war over this. I think it was a childish act to remove it (when labeling it as Eurosceptic ranting) so soon but then it could have been seen as vandalism so I can understand many of the possible reasons for it, I had also formatted it very poorly at the time. I find it odd the page on the NSDAP is so basic with little detail, I know wikipedia is not a site solely for historical research but it is a resourceful place many do use and rely on for accurate or hard to find info at one consolidated site. Some think we should stop educating our people about history but then what do we learn from. Some say how tired this is but it was within one life time and that to me is not very long ago. Actually, Boris has written about some of this in the Telegraph (2002 article to google "What's Hitler got to do with the euro? Everything") which is still available online but to me this is not really a source as such, it is still classed as opinion. I only mentioned the Mayor as a joke really :) Enjoy the weekend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elfree (talk • contribs) 02:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bloody Fun Day

I've commented about Wired. You're probably interested in reading it ;) - Mgm|(talk) 10:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up; I'm watching it, cheers  Chzz  ►  03:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done

Hi from Nebulae1

Hi
Thanks for the info.
Am still using user/book and sandbox :) and learning a lot.
But I wonder how many times can I edit on my own stuff in user/book or in sandbox only ??
For I experience that it's not been saved or renewed. Are am editing to fast or to much or to many times or often ?? Maybe is best if I write it down in my word before I put it on my sandbox or user/book ??
What is the different between user/book vs sandbox ??
How can I put in a picture ??
I have photobucket where I have my picture.

Thanks for this :)
CYL

--All for one and one for all 18:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebulae1 (talk • contribs)

Nebulae1 (talk · contribs)

Hi there.
Firstly, I see you've been playing with your signature, and unfortunately something has gone wrong, as the above didn't have your user name and links to your user and talk page etc. Please see Wikipedia:How to fix your signature.
Secondly, I see on your user page you used this code;
I building a Book/Fiction about Imperia[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nebulae1/Books/Fiction#Fiction] and can be found there<br />
You don't need to use external links for pages on the Wikipedia, so instead, just use [[User:Nebulae1/Books/Fiction]], which will look like this: User:Nebulae1/Books/Fiction
For more on this, see WP:LINKING.
Now, to address your questions;
  • You can edit pages as many times as you like, no problem at all. Many pages have been edited meny thousands of times. Out of interest, the most edited page currently is George W. Bush, which has 33,566 revisions. You can see these statistics in Special:MostRevisions
  • There are no problems at all with editing in your user area 'too much' or 'too fast' - in fact, you are encouraged to edit there as much as you like. Some people prefer to build articles offline (using Word or whatever), others build on-wiki. It's entirely down to personal preference.
Aaaaah, tea.
  • To add a picture, the simple syntax is [[File:Tea Cup.jpg|thumb|Aaaaah, tea.]] - this produces the image shown here. Of course, there are many other options - see WP:IMAGES.
Any more questions, and you know where to find me. Best regards,  Chzz  ►  04:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Britannicsank

Hi and how old are You? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Britannicsank (talk • contribs) 23:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, welcome to Wikipedia.
Please remember to "sign" your messages by putting ~~~~ at the end.
I'm older than the kids in this picture, but not as old as Martha Graham :-)
Cheers,  Chzz  ►  04:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Signature

Hi I using [u]All for one and one for all[/u] in my signature, and marked the box under the signature.

Its say I can do that, but else I have no idea. Except I can go back to default?

I looked at upload file, but it look like it upload new article or existing. I only want to upload a picture. I guess I can only upload real existing picture and not what I have made it self. When you upload a picture or article its will be for all in wiki?

 Nebulae1  ►  This user sign is different from user page then when I put it here. I copyed your sign or what it called, but some thing is not working right. Your user sign have hoover both side not what am copyed from you. I only switched your user name with my own, that it all I did.

I guess I can't ask you to see if you got the same results ??

Else am learning - user:Nebulae1/test - am not sure this is right.
User:Nebulae1/Books/Fiction
User:Nebulae1/test
I got it now :)

All for one and one for all 11:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebulae1 (talk • contribs)

To answer your second question first, you should upload copyright-free pictures at commons. Follow the simple instructions there. Once complete, note the filename; it will instantly be available on wikipedia. Check it, by putting [[File:filename.jpg|thumb]] on a test page in your user area, such as User:Nebulae1/test.
Now, regarding your signature, I see that you are still having troubles, so please read the information below;

Custom signatures

It's possible to customise your signature, and you can put 'code' in it to have different colours, etc. Pictures aren't allowed; hence, mine isn't an icon, it's just text characters with different colours.

You put the code in your preferences signature box, and checkmark the 'user raw signatures'; please note that it's fiddly, and easy to get it wrong, so it's best to best signing in a user sandbox area.

When using 'raw signatures' in your preferences, you need to manually include the links to your user and talk pages.

An example code is;

<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Chzz|<b>Chzz</b>]] : [[User_talk:Chzz|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small>

Which displays as Chzz :  Chat 

Note that you should always include your name (or part of it), a link to your user page and talk page.

Perhaps the easiest way to learn more is simply to look at other peoples signatures, by editing the page they've signed on, and looking at the code. For an example page with several, ahem, interesting signatures, see the April 1st Request for signatureship.

For much more info on this, see Wikipedia:SIGNATURE#Customizing_your_signature.

If you need any help with it, ask here or talk to us live.

 Chzz  ►  12:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy Blood of Angels

The article you nominated for AFD has been moved to my page for cleanup. Can you please take another look. Also see notes as to notability on the talk page where comments are welcome. Ebonyskye (talk) 19:28, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm sorry, but as I said in the AfD, my concern is not so much with the content as it is with the notability issue; I don't think the album is notable, therefore I don't think we should have a separate article about it. The policy you quote on your page states, "In general, if the musician or ensemble that recorded an album is considered notable, then officially released albums may have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia" - the key word here is 'may'.
As I see nothing particularly noteworthy about the specific album (in terms of coverage in the papers, chart positions, awards etc), I don't believe a separate article is warranted.
I'm sorry I can't be more positive on it, but that's my interpretation of policy. Of course I'll try to answer any questions that you might have. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I enhanced my sign

Hi
I enhanced my sign with [Nebulae1 ►Chat 00:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)] in preferences in singature box and marked raw signature under the box, and this is what I got as in Nebulae1 ►Chat 00:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC) and result is nice.[reply]
But I have a problem to get chat in to bold character. I guess we using Char or am gonna use Char.
Any suggestion?
Nebulae1 ►Chat 00:46, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.
How can I show syntax with out using it up?
also
using edit summary and saved after it gets this /* Hi */, and I can't saved then but if I del the space in between /* and H and H */, then saving works. Else I must do in twice and some time the changes do not follow. Is there I can do about it or is it normal??

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