Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals

This page can be used to gauge support for potential WikiProjects before putting a lot of effort into creating a detailed project page.

Proposing a project

To propose a project, write a brief description (including links to the related Wikipedia articles), and add it along with your name to the list below (in alphabetical order by topic). Some boilerplate you can use:

== Name of project ==
; Description : [description here]

; Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)
# [your name here]

; Comments

Expressing interest

If you're interested in any of the projects listed here, simply add your name to the appropriate list and start contributing to the relevant articles.

Creating a project

If your project gains support from 5-10 active Wikipedians, it could probably benefit from the organisation boost of having a proper page. Remove it from this list and follow the instructions for creating new projects. If you want to start a page before you have 5-10 active Wikipedians, consider setting up the page on a subpage of your user page until it is active, while leaving the posting here with a link to the user page.

Requesting a project

There may be cases where you believe that there is a pronounced need for the creation of a project which does not yet exist which you may not personally feel qualified to join. Some examples might be certain countries, disciplines, etc. In the event you are aware of such a situation, please add the relevant name to the list of projects below and see if there are any individuals interested in creating such a project.

Archive

In the event a given proposal does not receive sufficient support within 4 months of posting here to create a project or task force, it is added to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Archive page.

Projects

Aquatic Inverts

User:Jourdy288/Wikiproject Aquatic Inverts I thought I might be able to make this project and lift it off the ground. It is to organize info on aquatic inverts, fix up articles, stubs, etc. Anyone agree?Jourdy288 (talk) 00:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC) Further: By aquatic inverts, I mean invertebrates.

Comments

It might help if you defined "aquatic" in this sense. Some animals might live in the water but not necessarily belong to a group of animals generally thought of as "aquatic". Would such animals be included or not? Or, alternately, if you could specificy which groups of animals you are particularly thinking of, that might help immensely as well. John Carter (talk) 22:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Academic Regalia

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06:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

This would be a project about the Regalia of various Academic institution throughout the world, as well as maintaining articles about historical and currently used academic ceremonial items and Ceremonial dress. This project could be expanded to deal with legal and parlimentary Ceremony as well.

There are many current pages that are scattered throughout wikipedia which include segments of varying quality and detail about various institutions' regalia (in cloth and in terms of other academic ceremonial items and actions). This would be a project which would cover all of these areas and maintain articles and article sub-sections about the history and currency of universities' regalia. This project would also, ideally, obtain photographs of the regalia of the universities or other academic institutions in action, procession or on display. This project would also rearrange the layout of articles which are soley dedicated to the dress of one university, and either add those sections to the article about the university in question or add them to a larger umbrella article which covered the academic regalia of universities in a geographical region. And finally individuals writing or updating articles in this project would correspond with the universities in question to confirm the accuracy of the articles content.

Some articles which would fall under the purvey of this subject:

• Academic dress
• Academic dress of universities in Queensland, Australia
• Abolla
• Academic stole
• Academic dress of the University of Oxford
• Academic dress of Harvard University
• Chinese academic dress
• Ceremonial mace
• Gown
• Graduation

et al.

Interested Wikipedians

1. Ithillion 02:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Animation

Description

A project which would serve to coordinate all content related to animation, whether it be television, movie, internet, or whatever else.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. John Carter 20:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
2. Phil Sandifer 20:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
3. Stardust8212 00:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
4. Polarbear97 (talk) 02:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
5. perfectblue (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Several extant projects already work with some aspects of this field. This project would be created to serve as a focusing point for animation per se, as well as to potentially provide the framework for more devoted groups dealing with animation further down the line. John Carter 20:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be very important to make sure this project does not devolve into fannish obsession. The last thing we need is for it to become WikiProject Naruto or something. This should be a historically grounded, meticulous project. Phil Sandifer 20:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Could you not just broaden the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject American Animation? –thedemonhog talk • edits • box 00:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

This sounds like it would also cover WP:ANIME and possibly the proposed merge of the American Animation project with WP:COMICS. I'm not sure how all these projects would feel about suddenly being grouped under one umbrella but it may be a good idea if it goes well. Stardust8212 00:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, for some obscure reasons, American animation and anime aren't "very compatible". However, a generalized project of "animation" will encompass all that. KyuuA4 15:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The proposed merger with comics seems more or less unlikely. The specific purposes of this project are to more or less cover all animation. While it might technically be possible to broaden the scope of WikiProject American Animation, that would be a matter for the members of that existing project to decide, given it has had recent activity. I'm not averse to the idea myself, though. Regarding working with the Anime and Manga Project, I think we pretty much intend to leave alone any active projects, unless like above we are allowed to change the one existing project page. But there are instances of European animation, etc., which aren't currently covered by anything, as well as the other forms above, and that's more or less what this project might work on. John Carter 17:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm almost interested but what about the other cartoons covered by other projects? Do you have to cover them? Girl With An Attitude 09:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

If another WikiProject or group related to the subject of animation covers articles, there'd be no real purpose in our doing so as well, so long as that other project remains active, with the possible exception of some of the "main" articles, where we might be more likely to be able to add some content which might help the article. John Carter 13:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Animation has received a very poor deal recently and sorely needs a group to work on it, particularly a groups who can put in the time required to find third party sources for WP:V and WP:Notability. There have been a number of bad hack and slash edits made recently by people with poor subject knowledge. - perfectblue (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Australian rock music

Description

A WikiProject dedicated to improving the coverage of Australian rock music, encompassing Australian alternative, metal, punk and mainstream rock music. Also intent upon expanding Australian rock music artists who're not able to sustain a WikiProject themselves, such as Billy Thorpe, Icehouse, Noiseworks, Cold Chisel, Thirsty Merc and many others. Also within this would be the Australian sub-genres, rock-performance venues, rock tv-shows, festivals, the pages of the artists' works (albums, EPs, songs etc) and other major rock events in Australia. There's easily 10,000 existing and potential articles covered by the project and over time this number will expand also as artists further emerge. --lincalinca 01:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. lincalinca
2. Dan Arndt
3. Would fit somewhere between WP:AUSMUS and WP:FING, WP:HOUSE, etc. —
4. Kaylin814
5. H₂O —  08:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
6. Moorman1 (talk) 23:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• This seems to be too narrow a topic to be a full WikiProject. I think it would be better to have it as a task force division of WP:ROCK. Polarbear97 (talk) 22:43, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

What if you were to include radio, and television influences on the rock scene, such as tripple j, rage, and video hits, maybe that would broaden the parameters of the wikiproject. Moorman1 (talk) 23:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Australian theatre

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06:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

A sub-project of WikiProject Theater, dedicated to adding information to Wikipedia about theatre in Australia, a topic which is currently very poorly represented. This would include everything from theatre companies, venues, awards and other bodies to significant playwrights, actors and directors and expansion of the few articles that currently exist. This would also include significant information on independent theatre in Australia, a major part of the Australian theatre scene.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Guybrush

Comments

• I believe this is a big enough task, given the paucity of current information, to warrant a full WikiProject, not just a taskforce. -- Guybrush (talk) 09:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Aviculture

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06:12, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

A project to coordinate pages on the aviculture.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. User:Snowmanradio
2. [your name here]
3. [your name here]
4. [your name here]
5. [your name here]

Comments

Battlefield (videogame)

Description

This Wikiproject will be able to better give information on the various Battlefield (series) games. These include: Battlefield 2142, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 1942, ect. Hopefully some will be able to contribute to this. Battlefield games are unique in that which they incorporate infantry, vehicular, aeiral, and naval warfare all together. Those with questions please stop by my talk page. Thanks! PwnerELITE (talk)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. PwnerELITE
2. [Your name here]
3. [Your name here]
4. [Your name here]
5. [Your name here]

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Berbers

Description

I believe this very unique culture, with a one-of-a-kind alphabet Tifinagh and history dating back as far as ancient Egypt, merits its own WikiProject. There is a beautiful portal at Portal:Berbers, and I think Wikipedia would benefit greatly from this.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Chris 18:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
2. FayssalF - ^{Wiki me up®} 18:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
3. Funkynusayri
4. Skatewalk (Mainly Berbers in Iberia)
5. Taprobanus 19:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
6. Spectrum_X
7. Domsta333 —Preceding comment was added at 03:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
8. Æetlr Creejl 19:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
9. I.just.saw.a.face. (talk) 23:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

There seems to be enough support to at least merit a task force. Perhaps someone might want to contact Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups and see if they would be interested in taking it on? John Carter 15:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I would agree with John Carter. Perhaps the Berber people is too small (no offense) to be that important... perhaps the task force idea is best. PwnerELITE (talk) 01:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I won't hold your lack of knowledge against you, perhaps you'd better stick to topics you are familiar with. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 03:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Brazilian Carnival

Description

The purpose of this project will be to expand, create, or improve articles related to Brazilian Carnival. It will include samba schools, famous sambistas (such as Dudu Nobre), and all other articles related to Brazilian Carnival. One useful place to check articles related to Brazilian Carnival will be the following category: Category:Brazilian Carnival.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. --Nadir D Steinmetz

Comments

Bus transport in the UK

Description

To complete the picture, there are roads, railways trams but hardly anything on Buses.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Simply south (talk · contribs) Not likely huge contributor but interested in trhis

Comments

You could consider injecting some life into Wikipedia:WikiProject buses as well. Foxhill (talk) 18:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

The Carpenters

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06:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

This WikiProject will strive to better the pages of The Carpenters, as well as those of Richard and Karen Carpenter. Also, we will try to get the page The Carpenters featured.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Cuyler91093

Comments

• If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (talk) 06:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I am interested in bettering all of their pages (their albums, singles, DVDs, concerts, etc.), not just their pages themselves. If you do suggest I start a task force instead, then how do I do that? --Cuyler91093_{contributions} 01:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

A lot of projects don't have formal guidelines for taskforces, but here's a crash corse: pretty much just find a "parent" WikiProject, make the project you want to start a subpage (like Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/A Band). Use the parent WikiProject's guidelines as a starting point (link to them) and then draft some "in addition" kind of guidelines. Edit the parent project's page to include a link to the task force. You also might want to ask for help on the talk page for the WikiProject's banner for adding an option for the taskforce (so that a link to the taskforce shows up on certain talk pages). Some other ideas is to make some lists, like all the current articles that fall under the specific task force, and any goals for those articles. -- Ned Scott 01:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

See also WP:TASKFORCE. -- Ned Scott 01:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

• I agree. A WikiProject is not necessary to improve three articles. The talk pages of those articles would be sufficient. Phil Sandifer 23:35, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Calvin and Hobbes

Description

Very large fanbase on comic, and quite a lot to do on it. My first goal would be to expand the character lists so that the individual characters are article-worthy. Kimera Kat (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians

1. Kimera Kat (talk) 21:38, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Shapiros10 —Preceding comment was added at 01:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, a comic strip, a legancy, a huge fanbase, many fansites, fangames, characters, and adoring fans, when all put together are verrrrrrrrrrry narrow! Kimera Kat (talk) 23:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, there are no suitable real categories too put it in. You see, it's more than a comic, it's a way of life. Kimera Kat (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC) (obsessed)

The Chaser

Description

This WikiProject would focus on the popular Australin comedian team The Chaser, all of it's members, productions etc... It would want to improve the low standard of Chaser articles.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1.  SpecialWindler talk  23:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• If this dosen't create enough interest, then it could become a task force of parent WikiProjects either WikiProject Comedy or WikiProject Australia.  SpecialWindler talk  23:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
• I will create the WikiProject page myself when interest is gathered.  SpecialWindler talk  23:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

CJKV disambiguation pages

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06:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

This project will work within the frameworks of Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation to handle disambiguation involving CJKV characters—Chinese characters used across 4 East Asian languages (and the criteria whether or not to disambiguate). Cooperation between the 4 relevant language projects WP:ZH, WP:JA, WP:KO, and WP:VIET will be essential. It must be noted that Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) discourages Chinese characters in article titles, so CJKV disambiguation should be done as a last resort, whenever a simple redirect will not work. Example cases where CJKV disambiguation may (or may not) be necessary are listed at: User:Endroit/Chinese characters. 文 and 財閥 are good examples where disambiguation are necessary.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Endroit (talk) 16:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
2. JHunterJ (talk) 23:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Badagnani (talk) 16:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
4. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
5. Visviva (talk) 03:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
6. Kusunose (talk) 14:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
7. Paularblaster (talk) 20:59, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
8. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 07:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• May be better as a dab task force. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree that this should be a task force under Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation as well. Having one specific parent project will make it the most manageable.--Endroit (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I think it would be fine as a joint taskforce of all five related projects. This may be a first for a taskforce if it is set up as a joint of all five. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Sure, I'll support that. I think it will be exciting to have a joint CJKV taskforce, with WP:WPDAB as the main parent, as this will be a first ever CJKV collaboration in Wikipedia! In the spirit of Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide/Task forces, it will be essential to have WP:WPDAB as the main parent for this project (this reduces bureaucratic work for us). I appreciate your support, Nihonjoe, and your position as a leader in WP:JA will help expedite our collaborative effort.--Endroit (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
        • Is it something more than normalization and Variation Selector (U+FE00-FE0F, U+E0100 - U+E01EF) in Unicode? --NakanoHito (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

          I'm not sure I understand the question, but the proposal is nothing more than coverage of disambiguation pages like 財閥 where the same non-Latin-alphabet CKJV word corresponds multiple articles with unrelated Latin-alphabet titles. -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

          We didn't intend to cover the technical aspects of Unicode normalization, unless we have good reason to. For our purposes, there are 3 sets of Chinese characters we will cover (that I know of): Traditional Chinese (the universal roots, and includes Kyūjitai, Hanja, and Hán tự), Simplified Chinese (used in the PRC), and Shinjitai (Kanji, used in Japan). And these can be easily mapped to each other by looking up Wiktionary here.--Endroit (talk) 17:01, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

          I see. Just like KATAKANA disambiguation of Japanese articles for Cambria and Cumbria (or any common l and r; it may be necessary when you have articles undr KANA titles). A guy refered to this project in relevance to a character-glyph issue at Japanese Wikipedia (not WP:JA), so I misunderstood. Thanks for clarification.--NakanoHito (talk) 17:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

• Please email me if this project develops, as my involvement is very intermittent currently but I would like to participate in this. I favor the 5-way task force idea, but am not particular. -- Visviva (talk) 03:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
• If this is going to be implemented, I feel it should be discussed/added to the guideline at WP:DAB as soon as possible to see whether or not there is a consensus that such pages should exist, and if there is, to have a guideline to refer to when people object to them. Dekimasuよ! 14:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
• I was thinking, is a WikiProject really appropriate for this? Maybe proposing a guideline for CJKV disambiguation would be better. Firstly, the scope of this WikiProject would be very limited. Secondly, editors are really under no obligation to adhere to the decisions of any one WikiProject - an official guideline, on the other hand, will actually have a degree of enforceability. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 06:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• I just proposed new guidelines at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation#New guidelines for CJKV disambiguation pages. Please discuss there. (A task force may also eventually be created; but I believe we need more support from the primarily Chinese-article editors first.) Thank you all for your support.--Endroit (talk) 20:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

CCE : Commission for Collaborative Editing

Description

As editors, it is our obligation to safeguard the integrity of this encyclopedia at all times. This is a difficult task, especially when an article needs a complete overhaul, or if it is so obscure that consensus cannot be obtained expediently. Every contribution has to conform to WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:OR, WP:CON, WP:BLP. The CCE intends to eventually provide a network of On-Call editors to review major edits, and ensure they conform to these policies.

CCE editor services may be engaged in any of the following situations:

• When an editor intends to make an extensive good-faith contribution to an article, and wants their contribution peer-reviewed to point out mistakes, and editorial concerns.
• As an alternative to reverting, when a single editor has concerns over a major edit that has already been made.
• When a single editor is making multiple edits without discussion
• When a significant issue has been raised in discussion.

Main Governing Principle:

WE ARE NOT THE OTHER PARENT

CCE services only apply to cases of limited discussion (three or less editors involved in active discussion)

CCE will not interfere with existing consensus

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. BETA

Comments

Great Idea, say can you look at talk:coral calcium discussion about unreliable sources? I think it might be a significant issue. 68.107.42.85 (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

CNC machines

Description

A project that will cover the pages related to small computer controlled industrial machines upto big ones, about the companies and other pages related to it.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Devaes (talk)

Comments

The main page where we should start from is the CNC article, search for related articles and so on. Devaes (talk) 12:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Would you be willing to expand your coverage into CAD and CAM as well? If so, then this looks viable if you get the interest, otherwise it doesn't justify a full project on its own. Here's the relevant category. Including all subcategories there are several hundred pages it seems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:CNC%2C_CAD%2C_and_CAM I'm not interested in joining by the way, not something I'm into at all, but thought I'd offer advice all the same ;)Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 12:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. CAD-CAM focuses on the software, while this project would focus on the machines and the companies making them. There is no full coverage because most projects seem to be split up into woodworking, metalworking, ect .. while it basically is the same machine or the same supplier, just a different application. I'm thinking about creating or expanding articles about, but not limited to for example SCM (scmgroup.com), Microstep (microstep.com), messer (messer-cs.de), esab (esab.com) but also general articles about plasma cutting, woodcutting, milling, ... articles about the suppliers (hypertherm, kjellberg, rea-jet, rexroth, ...), applications focused on a specific industry (shipbuilding, window making, construction, ...). There are bits and pieces all over the place, but at the moment there are very few people working on it and it ain't orgenised in any way, there is no real structure, no real strategy behind it. Also a lot of these articles should be expanded or are just missing Devaes (talk) 07:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Colonial Coast

Description

A project that will cover all pages related to southeast Georgia and the Colonial Coast region, which has a population of 559,597. Counties covered would stretch from Chatham to Camden, and westward to Clinch. The city of Savannah would be the main focus, along with the cities of Brunswick, St. Marys, Darien, and Waycross. Its parent WikiProjects would be WikiProject Cities, WikiProject U.S. cities, and WikiProject Georgia.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Jaxfl (talk)
2. Bubba73 (talk) I live in the area and I've done some work on McIntosh and Glynn counties, and places and things within them.

Comments

• The Savannah area is in need of an organized WikiProject. With the expansion of project coverage throughout the entire Colonial Coast, other major cities, most notably the port city of Brunswick, and others including Darien, St. Simons, Waycross, and St. Marys, will benefit. Jaxfl (talk) 00:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
• Considering that the extant Georgia project would be able to provide assessments through its existing banner for this project, and that doing so would reduce the amount of banner clutter on many pages, I think that this group might be most effective as a subproject of the Georgia project. John Carter (talk) 21:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
• Concur with John Carter, this would definately be a great candidate for a regional workgroup or task force in WikiProject Georgia. The Wikiproject's template could simply be motified to include a line identifying the topics articles. On a seperate note, you may want to review the proposed title. There was a heated debate a while back regarding the name of the area ("Coastal Empire", "Creative Coast", etc.) on the Savannah, Georgia article. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 11:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Commonwealth Games

Description

A project that will aim to cover, expand and improve Wikipedia's coverage on Commonwealth Games, one of the largest multinational sporting events, outside of the Olympics, in the world. It will cover the games, countries participating, athletes and history.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Allied45 (talk · contribs) 12:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Basketball110 (talk · contribs)
3. LB22 (talk · contribs) LB22 (talk)

Comments

The Olympics have it, so why not the Commonwealth? Basketball110 21:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I could get some publicity for you on the Portal:WikiProject that I recently created.LB22 (talk) 18:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Croquet

Description

This project aims to improve and increase articles about croquet on Wikipedia. There is a shocking lack of articles on the subject, and there is not currently a Croquet Wikiproject. This would incorporate player biographies, competitions, and history.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Thomas Dowd

Comments

Deep Sea

Description

A project to write and improve more articles on topics related to deep sea (i.e. environment, creatures).

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Hackfish 19:45 14 December 2007 (EST)

Comments

For a related extant project please see #Oceans below. John Carter (talk) 17:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Deorphan

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06:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

A project to address the incredibly large backlog of orphaned articles.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Davidovic 01:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
2. Lex Kitten 01:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
3. Cheers, Lights (♣ • ♦) 01:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
4. Give those poor articles a home! Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 02:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
5. Count me in! Seraphim ^Whipp 10:48, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
6. I'm all for this. I can help. Freenaulij 03:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
7. futurebird 03:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• The deorphaning team is currently working on the backlog of orphaned articles. If this project is approved, it will take the place of the deorphaning team. Changing from an organisation to a WikiProject would allow for better classification of orphaned articles, guides on how to deorphan an article, better structure, and easier collaboration with other WikiProjects when needed. Davidovic 01:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I am the creator of the team. I had originally called the "WikiProject De-Orphaning", but I had it in Category:Wikipedia Organizations. This was bought to my attention, and I re-named it. Also, there's the article rescue squadron, and I do not see why that should be a WikiProject. That is my opinion, at least. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 02:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Desperate Housewives

Description

The project's goal is to improve the main article of Desperate Housewives, and to create new articles for the episode list and also to expand the characters articles.

It ios clear to see that most of the D.H pages have a large disorganization especially the character pages and the main page. The best thing is to organizane all these pages in a wikiproject and expand even more the D.H. pages.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. cosmo.vnz 04:12, 06 August 2007 (UTC)
2. Pjär80 08:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
3. JpGrB
4. Sfufan2005 01:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
5. Cheater1908 00:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
6. frao61

Comments

• If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris 08:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• I am so in, I've watched this show since the beginning, and I'd love to be apart of this! JpGrB
• I'd be interested since I've helped contribute in the past. Sfufan2005 01:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
• Count me in! But I might not be around so often because I've been having some computer problems. Sometimes my brother lets me use his computer, so I'll try to be online as often as I can. :-) Cheater1908 00:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - This appears to be much better done as a task force. Only a few articles (at most!) need be created: one for the show, a list of episodes, a list of characters and character descriptions. --Lquilter (talk) 15:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose, Completely unnecessary as a project, better suited as a task force as there should only be a few articles related to this single show. That doesn't require a full project. Collectonian (talk) 20:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Would the individuals above be interested in making the group a Task force/Work group of Wikipedia:WikiProject Television? John Carter (talk) 20:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose Does not warrant a WikiProject on its own; as above, better suited as a WP:TV task force. •97198 talk 12:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Desperate Housewives. - LA @ 08:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Discographies

Description

I was shocked to see that Wikipedia had no WikiProjects dedicated to discographies. I've never started a WikiProject myself, but this WikiProject's goal would be to start, expand, and clean up discographies. Also, in the WikiProject, people would be able to share reliable websites for placement charts. Anyone interested?

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name with three tildes)

1. Cuyler91093 (Contribs)

Comments

Diseases and cures

Description

[Will help contribute to diseases and cures]

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Trulystand700

Comments

I think this project would help with Diseases and cures because there is none in the dieseases and cures section.

Isn't that quite similar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine

Agree with above. It is very similar to WikiProject Medicine. Basketball110 21:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Due weight

Stale

06:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

This project would exist to help ensure that content in wikipedia articles receives only due weight, as per WP:Undue weight, and that where possible verifiable, reliably sourced content which cannot be included in one article because of undue weight concerns be kept in wikipedia in some form.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. John Carter 18:41, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
2. --Northmeister 00:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

I don't know if this helped but I made a Desperate Housewives Dead Characters at the chart at the bottom of the page, so if i'm missing any just add them. -puddy03april 12:02 1/12/08.

I am concerned that this project with a description as worded would encourage people to keep content which may not belong anywhere in the encyclopedia. For example, if someone writes a WP:POVFORK which is deleted, would they be able to use this WikiProject to help them keep the content elsewhere? If so, this might be problematic. ScienceApologist 19:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the question. No, I don't think that such explicit POV forks would be anything like what this project would try to do, although I'm not really sure how to write it to make that clear. What I was more thinking along the lines of would be, for instance, if one or more given books deal with a given "fringe theory", and the book/s met notability guidelines, then creation of articles on those books might be one way to deal with the matter of undue weight, moving it into articles on those books. Those new articles would have to met the same criteria as any other content in wikipedia, though. Alternately, given content on a certain individual which wouldn't be included in their biography for weight reasons might be included in a daughter article, if the amount of reasonable, verifiable, encyclopedia content merited the creation of one. Even these new "daughter" pages would I hope be checked to ensure that they individually meet the standards of all content. But any content which clearly did not belong on the basis of any of the indicators would I hope be objected to and opposed by this project. Like I implied, though, phrasing that in a short way is something I'm obviously not capable of right now. John Carter 19:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a reasonable idea if handled right; it may help from some articles becoming mere criticism of the figure or event rather than merely presenting the material; which would add to undue weight. A brief snippet, with a link to the material would suffice in many cases, if weight is a concern. --Northmeister 00:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• I'm concerned about "reliably sourced content which cannot be included in one article because of undue weight concerns be kept in wikipedia in some form." Wikipedia is not meant to be a database of all reliably sourced content. Above, John Carter states that it would still have to meet other WP guidelines -- presumably and most importantly, notability. But I worry that this project will, in essence, end up hindering the development of balanced articles on a controversial topic. For instance, articles like women's studies have significant criticisms that end up raising WP:Undue weight concerns. The right approach is usually to integrate criticism into the article as appropriate. When criticism becomes its own topic, then it needs its own article. All of that is currently supported in basic WP:MOS and other guidelines & policies. My concern is that this project -- even if intended to generate new articles as relevant -- would inevitably come to be used to "salvage" material that is not meritorious of a new article but is simply a POV fork or a trivia page. ...

But a counterexample: For instance, what about Spanish Civil War; there is an extensive list of "related" films & literature. These could be split off into extensive bibliographies of materials, and in fact there is probably a good article there -- "Spanish Civil War in arts and literature", because there have been multiple art exhibitions and books on this precise topic. It does seem like this kind of project could help with that. ... I just worry about how to limit this project so that it creates legitimate daughter spin-off articles; and not POV forks etc. --Lquilter (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Your questions and concerns are valid ones, and at this point I don't think that they can be handles with broad generalizations, as there will be specific factors invovled in most cases. We will try to create guidelines for various subjects, probably based on the central subject's own notability, but it will take some effort to be successful. Any input in the decisions if the project ever gets started will be welcome. John Carter (talk) 23:34, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Similar (but non-identical) endeavors exist at WP:Fringe theories/Noticeboard and WP:SKEPTICS. I recognize the differences among these, but I'm concerned that have too many projects/noticeboards about undue/fringe-style NPOV issues would be counterproductive by spreading interested users too thinly across the various projects. Fireplace (talk) 07:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
• We have two WikiProjects, Paranormal and Rational Skepticism, which are essentially two sides of the same coin. A single project covering both kinds of content would be much better. Guy (Help!) 16:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Agreed, but that means that the participants in those 2 WikiProjects, as well as (ideally) Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative Views, would agree to funnel their efforts into a single unified project. Right now it seems like WikiProjects dedicated to the issue of WP:FRINGE/WP:WEIGHT are multiplying like hydrinos, or Wikipedia citations to Peter Duesberg. The issue is an important one and it would be ideal to reduce the project forking, but perhaps we should ask the most active participants in the pre-existing WikiProjects if they would agree to unify their efforts before opening another WikiProject with overlapping goals. MastCell ^Talk 17:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Duke University

Description

A WikiProject to standardize and improve all articles related to Duke University. The project page would provide a central forum to outline specific important tasks, collect article/photo requests, and improve to GA or FA articles that are essential/pivotal to Duke, while deciding on mergers or deletions for unencylopedic and trivial stubs. While every one of these actions can and are carried out on the individual pages, a Duke WikiProject would, IMO, streamline the whole maintenance/editing/writing process and facilitate greater cooperation and input.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. malachirality (talk · contribs)
2. PeterStJohn (talk · contribs)
3. Basketball110 21:51, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Comment: This project will be a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 09:59, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Dutch Politics

Stale

06:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

After a brief discussion with C mon (talk · contribs), our in-house expert on Dutch politics, I propose the creation of WikiProject Dutch Politics. It would be affiliated with WikiProject Netherlands and WikiProject Politics. We have made a list of 10 general topics that this WikiProject would cover:

1. Creating articles on Dutch M(E)Ps and government ministers in past and present
2. Adding GFDL photos to articles on Dutch politicians and parties
3. Improving articles on Dutch ministries, Dutch politicians and Dutch political parties
4. Creating and improving articles on Dutch interest groups
5. De-listing Politics of the Netherlands (terminology)
6. Creating and improving articles on Dutch local and provincial politics
7. Improving articles surrounding politics of the Netherlands
8. Creating and improving articles on Dutch political history
9. Improving articles on national elections
10. Creating and improving articles on cabinets and cabinet formations

WikiProject Dutch Politics would be a sister to WikiProject Australian Politics and WikiProject Taiwanese Politics. I feel that a separate WikiProject would be better suited for bridging the gap between WikiProject Netherlands and WikiProject Politics than a task force. Aecis^Brievenbus 20:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Aecis^Brievenbus 20:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
2. JACOPLANE • 2007-11-24 20:40
3. C mon (talk) 20:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

WikiProject ER

Description

This would be a WikiProject to maintain, improve, expand upon articles relating to the long running TV series, ER.

Interested Wikipedians

1. Joshua John Lee
2. awalrusdarkly
3. Solo89 (I think we should try to partner up with ER Headquarters)
4. Tom Banks
5. Therequiembellishere (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Think this one might be too big for a task force so brought it here for discussion. Will try and rally support from common ER editors.

• Even though it's long-running a task force should be sufficient. An article for the TV series; a list of episodes; a list of characters; a very few articles on individual episodes and individual characters that have received significant real-world coverage sufficient to justify separate articles. That is probably fewer than twenty articles altogether would be needed. Each article could be deep and rich rather than many, many separate small shallow articles like a database. --Lquilter (talk) 16:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree - this still seems to me to be a project on a very finite number of articles. Phil Sandifer 23:36, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose, as Lquilter has noted, at best a task force under the Television project would suffice. The show is long running, but that alone doesn't make it notable enouhg to need more than a handleful of decent articles rather than a huge list of stubs that will end up on the AfD block. Collectonian (talk) 20:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/ER. - LA @ 08:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Essex

Description

A project for the county of Essex, England

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Chris 05:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
2. Jake the Editor Man 10:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
3. ^† DBD 12:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
4. Dixonsej (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC) Yeah why not. I live there after all
5. Barnabypage (talk) 19:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
6. Callumm (talk) 17:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
7. Nhyty (talk) 10:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
8. Skenmy^(t•c•n) 17:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC) FOR THE HOMELAND!
9. Dave Dubya 20:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Maybe you could try Category:Wikipedians from Essex and also place notices e.g. at Wikipedia:WikiProject England. Simply south (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Featured lists

Description

As many of you might know, there is a new assessment grade for Featured lists. Unfortunately, a lot of people (me included) aren't entirely sure what criteria should be met for featured list status to be achievable. This group would exist to try to help some of the more important and workable lists up to FL status.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. John Carter (talk) 19:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

WikiProject Featured Sounds

A WikiProject dedicated to increasing Wikipedia's collection of Featured Sounds.

Featured Sounds is barely recognized as Wikipedia users don't realize that it exists, and do know the fundamentals of what defines a Featured Sound. I propose a WikiProject be created to search, critique, and debate the best sound and musical recordings for use on Wikipedia. In doing so, it will greatly enhance sound and musical articles.

Interested Wikipedians

1. Zidel333
2. Zginder ^{(talk) (Contrib)} 03:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I like the idea of developing something on sounds. In principle, I think sounds should be treated like images etc. -- so if "Featured X" projects are the way to go, then sounds should get one too. However, I really wonder if it wouldn't be helpful to simply have a "Featured Content" project that put all these together for greater standardization and interconnection of content. --Lquilter (talk) 16:10, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
• Someone needs to do it, but I do not know much about sound or Music. Well I will try to learn. Zginder ^{(talk) (Contrib)} 03:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Feminism

Description

A WikiProject for creating, maintaining and improving articles related to feminism and biographies of important feminists. Although there are WikiProjects that vaguely encompass this subject such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Gender Studies and Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies, they don't specifically focus on the subject area. Wikipedia would benefit from sustained effort in this area. This listing is to find out how much interest there is to support such a WikiProject. Addendum: It should go without saying but this WikiProject is not to promote feminism or add feminist bias to articles but to provide neutral point of view additions and reliable sources. It should go without saying but obviously it does need to be said or someone is bound to misinterpret this effort as a form of proselytizing.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Pigman☿ 03:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Alison ^❤ 19:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Lquilter (talk) 23:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
4. Phyesalis Phyesalis (talk) 05:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
5. user:1bookfan
6. Grrrlriot (talk) 03:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
7. ^† DBD 12:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Comment - Certainly there's a significant distinction b/w feminism & gender studies. However, this project is likely to face significant editor harassment and will need to be built out of NPOV steel. )-8 Lquilter (talk) 23:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

• Sigh. Yes, I know. I wonder if there is any way around it beyond your suggestion for "NPOV steel" (which I like). Like any corner of Wikipedia, if such a project sets up a strong set of principles from the outset, emphasizing NPOV, reliable sources, etc., I think it will help remind project members to set the right Wikipedian priorities. Still, I do feel somewhat daunted by the undoubted uphill slog for this project and members. Pigman☿ 06:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
• Explicit as possible, I guess. Address up-front that the project will attract people who have strong opinions (pro or con) on feminism, but that we assume personal views will be subordinated to NPOV (or something). List topics envisioned -- feminism and anti-feminism, because whenever there is an effort to write about a political issue, the anti's always want to be sure there is "balance" -- which is of course what we should strive toward, but all too often (in my experience) anti's want to insert original research, opinions, and overbalance articles with criticism. Building out templates for articles with good examples about how to incorporate criticism into the article, and citing policies, will be helpful. I wish I had brilliant ideas about how to get people who feel hostile towards an idea to work cooperatively on articles about that idea. --Lquilter (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

• Would this project have anything to do with the creation of things like the feminist section of the Hamlet article? Wrad (talk) 20:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually unclear about what you're asking Wrad? I take it you know that Feminist literary criticism is a very well established academic discipline and that the feminist interpretation of Hamlet is widely taught, just like the Psychoanalytic interpretation is?--Cailil ^talk 02:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm up for it. Phyesalis (talk) 05:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I have to make a fairly wide disclaimer here since I am probably one of the more active members of WP:GS but I need to ask what would the proposed project cover that WP:GS, WP:LGBT, WP:WPDISC and the Sociology WikiProject (even if it is a little inactive), doesn't already? Why not try and work within the current projects (all of which have significant memberships)?
  If you do go ahead Lquilter is right it will attract trolling just like WP:GS and WP:LGBT do. All in all I think WP:GS and WP:LGBT already cover feminism - but I'm open to being convinced of the need of another project--Cailil ^talk 02:52, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - I support this project and I'm up for it, but I think a task force might be better. Perhaps it could be a subproject or task force of another WikiProject? If you want more information or if you think you would be interested in participating, Take a look here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Gender_Studies#Subcategory.2FTask_Force_of_Feminism or stop by my talk page and let me know. Thanks! --Grrrlriot (talk) 02:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment - You can now join: Portal:Feminism/Feminism_Task_Force. Anybody interested in the WikiProject Feminism should join the force. --Grrrlriot (talk) 20:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Friends

Description

This will be a wikiproject for the awesome show Friends. Although the show is cancelled their is so much that wikipedia has yet to know about all the glories of Friends. If you liked the show and are interested please put your name.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Baitt--Baitt (talk) 05:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I know this will be an awesome wikiproject.--Baitt (talk) 05:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Genetic History

Description

A wikiproject for articles on DNA research into genetic genealogy and genealogical DNA tests; the history and spread of human populations as revealed by eg human Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups; and similar. Many such articles can be found in Category:Genetic genealogy and its subcategories, notably the subcategories on human haplogroups.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Jheald (talk) 12:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Tiamut^talk 18:02, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Much needed project, particularly given the need for expert input to help in deciphering some of the literature. Thanks for thinking of it.
3. – Swid ^{(talk · edits)} 20:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC) (commentary below)
4. Sugaar. I am more interested in human population genetics than in comercial DNA testing, that is often misleading or just sample-biased. But I do think this kind of project is much necesary anyhow. --Sugaar (talk) 16:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
5. Sasha l (talk) 16:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
6. The Ogre (talk) 09:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
7. ClockworkSoul 17:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
8. Nagelfar (talk) 05:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• My direct motivation for seeking this Wikiproject was a recent run-in at Y-chromosomal Aaron, where I desperately missed the lack of a relevant WikiProject talk page to go to, to attract the input, advice and views of knowledgeable editors in this area.

There's a lot of general public interest in the proposed subject area -- eg the Y-chromosomal Aaron page is apparently getting well over 100 hits a day, and over the last 18 months or so there's been a lot of material added, by a fair number of different editors, mostly editing different pages which are particularly relevant to them. IMO, a central wikiproject would be useful, and also a good place to be able to bring WP:OR, WP:V, and WP:general cluelessness issues for wider informed input.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Evolutionary biology do already exist, but their focus is much much broader. With regard to those project's charters, I believe the subject would be seen as a rather specialist niche topic area, rather out of the mainstream of those project's normal focus. On the other hand, I believe that there are a number of wikipedia editors (and readers) who are specifically interested in the subject, who would find advantage if there were a specific wikiproject for it. Jheald (talk) 12:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

• Agree – Though I am not a geneticist, I do look for expertise in subjects that I am unfamiliar with or gain more insight into, genetics being one. Typically my first stop is a project page to see who I may look to for advice or to gain better insight into a particular area. As Jheald points out, ancestry investigations has become quite a hot topic over the last several years. This project page would be a great addition, and a wonderful resource for editors in similar positions as mine. Good luck to you. Shoessss |  Chat  14:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
• Though we don't have to, I think it is good practice to create broader projects before more narrow ones. We seriously need a Wikipedia:WikiProject Genetics (which I'll start myself in several months if nobody beats me to it), though this is much more specific. Of course, if that's your main interest and you can get enough people to join by all means start such a project; I just think it would be easier to find people interested in genetics in general first. Richard001 (talk) 01:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Isn't that covered by the (by your rationale) even broader Molecular and Cellular Biology WikiProject? I Agree, because I think that the umbrella genetics project is covered in the aforementioned project, and "Genetic history" or 'genetic evolution' has reached a scale all of it's own here on wikipedia. Nagelfar (talk) 10:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I've actually been putting some thought into that recently. What I'm considering proposing is an organization within WP:MCB that both (1) organizes the topics in a rational and meaningful way and (2) allows us to maintain our most committed members in single organizational unit. The latter is vital because it allows us all to focus on single vital topics and turn out some very impressive articles. My concern is that is we fragment into several groups, each with a smaller number of committed members there will be less focus on the articles that remain. The result of splintering, in my experience, tends to be discouraged members of the new groups and the eventual abandonment of the new project. Take a look at WP:VIRUS and WP:MICRO as examples of MCB splinter projects that haven't done much at all besides tag articles as being under their domain. My proposal would include the creation of task forces or sub-projects of some kind, but maintain the central point of communication and preserve the resources that encourage broad communication, such as the CotM and soon to be revived newsletter. – ClockworkSoul 17:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Richard: you may be wrong. I suspect that there is more people interested in human genetic history than in genetics in general. I am one of them. Drosophila's and zebrafish' genetics are cool for sure but most of the time they don't interest me as much as human genetics do. I would surely not join the Molecular Biology WikiProject but I will happily join this one. The reason is that I am more interested in history, archaeology and anthropology than in biology or medicine. So I see human genetics as a fascinating tool to improve knowledge in those areas. In brief: it's like arguing that to be interested in archaeology you first need to be interested in mineralogy.

But, through interest in human genetics, it may happen that more people join teh Molecular Biology project after all.

Also, like happens with so many specific ethnic WikiProjects and the WikiProject Ethnic Groups, for instance, bot projects can have a coordination and even a parent-child relation, at least formally. --Sugaar (talk) 04:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

For the proposed Genetic History group, I think it probably has enough novelty to stand on its own without conflicting with any existing groups. A Genetics group, however, might not. – ClockworkSoul 12:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

• Agree The problems here are distinctive in not being biological. and even when biological, there are other techniques than molecular biology that remain relevant here. This should be a separate project--there will be enough people, and enough problems also. DGG (talk) 02:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
• Agree/Comment This is a topic that sorely needs a WikiProject. As it currently stands, most of the Wikipedia articles on genetic history/genealogy have at least one of the following shortcomings: woefully incomplete; contradictory information; shilling for testing companies; promoting assorted ethnic/nationalist POV. While these problems can be cleaned up by using peer-reviewed academic sources, doing so will leave out a lot of information that is being generated by the private testing/amateur enthusiasts community, which is, in many cases, several steps ahead of what makes it into published studies. Balancing the (generally) more up-to-date information of this community with the slower, more rigorously analyzed data coming from population geneticists will be the biggest challenge to this WikiProject. In addition, it's very tempting for a lot of people to associate present-day population diversity patterns with (pre)historic migrations and settlement patterns; this is an area that these articles should tread very lightly in until if and when wide-scale testing of ancient DNA becomes commonplace. – Swid ^{(talk · edits)} 20:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Agree/Comment. Agree specially with Swid - but also in general. I also think that the project needs a better more descriptive name like Human genetic history or Human population genetics. Genetic History is way too vague. --Sugaar (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

• • Agree/Comment Whats the delay? Cyrus111 (talk) 19:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
• Agree/Comment This is a much needed project. I, as a complete ignorant on such issues, see more and more the use of genetic data (namely haplogroup frequencies in specific populations) to sustain some historical, archeological, anthropological or ethnic rationale/argumentation (and the risks of nationalist or racialist/racist uses abound!). And I see a lot of manpulation and misuse of the source (even the choice of sources is problematic). A task force on these questions is urgentely needed! The Ogre (talk) 09:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Update/Vote

I created a draft version of the WikiProject; feel free to go to it and flesh it out. Also, given that there has been some comments about starting a task force inside of an existing WikiProject vs. a full-blown project, I've started an informal poll below. Please vote! – Swid ^{(talk · edits)} 00:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Task Force:

Independent WikiProject:

• Project. Task force would do but the area is wide and attractive enough to justify a WikiProject - and a Portal. --Sugaar (talk) 04:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Project. It is such a large field of inquiry widely related to many different disciplines and the interest in it will likely grow as more and more scholarship is produced. It also needs informed members capable of deciphering the scholarship produced and rendering it comprehensible to lay people. A project would better help organize those capabilities than a task force. Tiamut^talk 15:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Godfather

Description=This wikiproject would be about Paramount Pictures, The Godfather. Please Support Us!
User:PAH Page
Interested user sign up here:

1. -The Bold Guy- (talk) 17:53, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
2. You have my vote, however set this up! I wish you the best of luck with it in I think it has a fair chance to actually work! Good luck setting up the project! -The Bold Guy- (talk) 17:53, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Go ahead mate, it will be benificial, if you have read the book, as I have, then it should be a doss, Thanks man. DangerTM (talk) 11:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• There are, presumably, three articles here - one on each film. I'm not even sure a task force is needed for these, little yet a WikiProject. Surely the article talk pages would suffice. Phil Sandifer 23:38, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

• • There are more articles other than the flims such as all of the character pages. †Poison the Well† (talk) 22:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Godfather. - LA @ 08:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Or better yet, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/Godfather to cover both the books by Mario Puzo and the films. - LA @ 08:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Great Ancient European Empires

Description

This project would maintian and add to articles relating to empires like the Greeks and the Romans, the French and the English, etc. This project could also organize these articles into usable archives of information, by linking the major pages to the WikiProject page.

Interested Wikipedians(please add your name)

1. Amenhotep XV

Comments —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amenhotep XV (talk • contribs) 17:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• I believe the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries already deals with most of this content, although they might be willing to support a few more subprojects. John Carter (talk) 19:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
  • So does Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, for the usual sense of Ancient, which does not cover the nineteenth-century empires, like the French or the English. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I would like to point out that this project would deal with all Ancient European countries, not just Rome and Greece205.201.221.85 (talk) 19:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Great Christian Writers of the Twentieth Century

Description

This project would maintain and add to articles relating to Christian writers of the 1900s, including men like C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Amenhotep XV

Comments —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amenhotep XV (talk • contribs) 17:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• An extraordinarily narrow focus; and encourages POV edits of Tolkien. His writing was informed by his Catholicism, but also by his scholarship. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note that WP:WikiProject Middle-earth and WP:WikiProject Narnia already exist. You may wish to join, and discuss WP:WikiProject Inklings. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
• The name would have to be changed, as "Great" is clearly POV, and the scope would have to be more explicitly defined for this to have any chance of being successful. Questions include whether non-fiction writers, like say Billy Graham, Leo Buscaglia, and Tim LaHaye would also be included, the precise definition of writers of the 20th century for these purposes, and possibly other currently ambiguous matters as well. John Carter (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
• Word of advice, you might want to make this a task force instead of a wikiproject. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 19:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

An interesting idea - would it be more appropriate to call this "great Christian thinkers" to include theologians such as Karl Barth, Paul Tillich, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Hans Kung, Karl Rahner or Wolfhart Pannenberg and Bible scholars such as Albert Schweitzer and Rudolf Bultmann though? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:45, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject GULAG

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Description

A project to inform more about the atrocities of the GULAG from its beginnings in the Red Terror right the way up to the end of all labour camps. Would include useful information on notable people within the Gulag, statistics,famous guards (e.g Frenkel), international disputes over the camps, Stalin, Lenin and Dzierzinsky's interest in them, and anything else pertaining to the GULAG Archipegalo (N.B Although we sometimes use the word GULAG to descibe the regime of oppression the USSR fostered, this project would primarily be about the archipegalo itself.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. [Tomsett]

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Harvest Moon

Description

It would be to improve articles in the Harvest Moon Video game series, full list here: template: Harvest Moon series. I noticed there isn't a Wikiproject for it, and although if it is created I may or may not join, the series is big and most articles could use improvement, so I'm suggesting it.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Indian Highways

Description

India has second largest network of roads in the world and there are a large number of random pages describing them on Wikipedia. So. it would be nice to start a project and put together the information about Indian Highways in a more organised way.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Manik (talk) 21:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• This should be a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways, shouldn't it? (Come to think of it, why on earth are all those individual areas individual WikiProjects?) --Lquilter (talk) 16:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Internet Relay Chat

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Description

Currently, Wikipedia has very poor coverage of IRC-related topics - for an example of this, take a look at the article about QuakeNet - which, despite QN being the largest IRC network, is a stub. The project would aim at improving and expanding articles related to the IRC protocol, IRC clients, IRC networks/servers and IRC culture. --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 00:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. --Aqwis (talk – contributions) 00:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• Agree that this is poorly covered, especially compared to other Internet culture & technology topics. What about a task force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet culture? --Lquilter (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Isle of Wight

Description

There is so much to talk about regarding the Isle of Wight. I believe that if the county of Berkshire can have its own WikiProject, then the Isle of Wight deserves to have one too. If an editor believes that the Isle of Wight should not have its own WikiProject because the Isle of Wight should be managed under the direction of the UK WikiProject, then I refer you to the fact that many UK counties, like Berkshire, have their own WikiProjects. Relevant articles include, but are not limited to, the Isle of Wight, History of the Isle of Wight, Ventnor, Bonchurch, Battle of Bonchurch, Sandown, Cowes and the French invasion of the Isle of Wight (1545).

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. EasyPeasy21 (talk) 19:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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Jimi Hendrix

Description

This project seeks to improve upon the current Jimi Hendrix information available, in a few specific ways:

1. Get the page up to featured article status (has been rejected before) 2. Expand the information on the non-musical cultural impact of Hendrix 3. Incorporate more knowledge on the vast catalogue of Hendrix's unreleased works.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. SunilSuri
2. Fitz8794
3. Zack Price
4. ReignMan22
5. Izzy007
6. C_Rossman (FYI - great book on unreleased works called "Black Gold")

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Latrobe Valley

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06:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

This project would aim to give the Latrobe Valley better coverage on wikipedia. It would cover articles about towns in the aread Moe, Victoria, Morwell, Victoria Traralgon, Victoria Yallourn North, Victoria the latrobe valley article, and many others related to the latrobe valley. I feel that with a project related to the Latrobe Valley, wikipedians will be able to gain a greater understanding about the valley.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. ClEeFy
2. celebraces

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Law & Order

Description

This project would focus on Law & Order and all of the spin-offs like: Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, Law & Order: Criminal Intent, and Law & Order: Trial by Jury. Some areas of the Project would be: episode data and order, character information and updates, news and currents events, information about cast members, creating templates, organizing information, expanding articles, and creating a comprehensive and detailed guide to the Franchise in general on Wikipedia. Psdubow 23:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Psdubow
2. Tha D-O-Z
3. J.P. Casey
4. Bernstein2291
5. Saranghae honey (talk · contribs)
6. Mukkakukaku (talk · contribs)

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc) then you should start a task force of an existing project instead of starting a whole new WikiProject. Chris 20:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you are right. But, this is just to see if anyone would be interested in joining. Psdubow 20:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm definitely interested in this. --DodgerOfZion 06:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Great! But, I'd like to wait for a few more people to be on-board before we create it though. Psdubow 15:47, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this a good idea for a project. I'll be in! JpGrB 03:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Love this show. With many spin-off shows and numerous seasons, this project should be able to cover a great deal of articles. mirageinred 19:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• It seems to me like this should be a task force of WikiProject Television. --Lquilter (talk) 21:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose, Completely unnecessary as a project, better suited as a task force under the TV project. There should not be that many articles for the franchise, just a few for each show. Wikipedia is not a TV show guide and an effort is unneeded to make a "comprehensive" guide to any of the shows. Collectonian (talk) 20:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Would the individuals above be interested in making the group a Task force/Work group of Wikipedia:WikiProject Television? John Carter (talk) 20:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Law & Order or Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/Law & Order to cover the other media involved. - LA @ 08:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

M*A*S*H

Description

This project would be to further expand the M*A*S*H franchise. Possibly help expand the characters, add more episodes, and not have them in the red links, and the movie and books.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. J.P. Casey
2. Mikecraig
3. Chris 06:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
4. Sarsaparilla39
5. Skeeter451 my contributions my talk page
6. Voyagerfan5761
7. 60 Delta 21:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
8. -Pumpmeup 04:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
9. Nhyty (talk) 09:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
10. Basketball110 21:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
11. Million Moments —Preceding comment was added at 20:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Okay, now this is a TV project I can get behind, one that has staying power for a decade of shows and 35 years of cultural influence. support. Chris 06:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

• Support - Agree with Chris and seeing that there is a lot of actors..etc associated with M*A*S*H, having a WikiProject is a good idea. --Mikecraig 06:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
• Definitely one of the more notable TV series -- by far. But I would still argue that a task force of WikiProject TV would be good enough -- could organize everything neatly. --Lquilter (talk) 21:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose, this is completely unnecessary as a project, better suited as a task force as there should only be a few articles related to this single show, even one as notable as this one. It doesn't require a full project and needs to be kept in line with the TV project. Collectonian (talk) 20:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Would the individuals above be interested in making the group a Task force/Work group of Wikipedia:WikiProject Television? John Carter (talk) 20:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment To the two above statements, this wouldn't be for the television show only. It's for the entire franchise. (Movie, television show, characters, books, etc.) --JpGrB 22:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - While noted, the above point is hardly unique to this proposal. The television WikiProject already covers many such related materials. John Carter (talk) 23:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/M*A*S*H or Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/M*A*S*H for the film's inclusion. I would also suggest that this cover the spin-off series. - LA @ 08:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment I'm guessing we're ready to start this project since we have 11 people. If it's not created by this time tomorrow, I'll do it. --JpGrB 20:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
• Remember You have been invited to become a task force at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/M*A*S*H. - LA @ 13:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Madonna (entertainer)

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Description

A project to ensure that the ever increasing sprawl of articles on Madonna are of a high quality, consistent, and more useful. Emphasis would be on clean up existing articles and checking new contributions to fit WP policies.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. JKW111 (talk) 13:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• Task force could help clean up the existing articles and perhaps establish ways to weed out some of the less notable ones. Project doesn't seem necessary. --Lquilter (talk) 04:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Mathematical and Computational Biology

Description

A project to work on articles relating to the scientific fields of Computational Biology, Systems biology, Bioinformatics and a few others.

Currently, no such WikiProject seems to exist, although I believe it's quite an important subject, and some of the relevant pages need to be better organised and consolidated. Many of the pages about Bioinformatics are currently filed under Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology.

I've created a draft WikiProject page in my home area.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Hendrik Fuß 12:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Kayhack (talk) 02:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
3. Dubitzky (talk) 17:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
4. Pete St.John (talk) 17:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
5. William P. Coleman (talk) 16:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• It would be particularly useful to have such a project to help clarify important and defining concepts for use as categories. --Lquilter (talk) 15:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Agree. I have added a section Categories to the preliminary project page. If you have any specific examples (e.g. of articles) where categorisation is needed, please let me know or add to the To Do list. In the long run, such a list would be useful for a portal page. Hendrik Fuß (talk) 14:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I'll definitely come in & play with categories. Don't know that I'll be able to do more. --Lquilter (talk) 04:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• The Universe is expanding, Science is expanding, there will be more Projects, this surely will be one of them. I'm not a biologist but on account of the interplay with genetic algorithms, which gets attention from biologists, I'll read some of your stuff for lay comprehensibility. Pete St.John (talk) 17:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Marshall County, Alabama

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06:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

description

a project, probably working with Wikipedia:Wikiproject Alabama thats main objective is working to create, expand, and improve articles related to Marshall County, Alabama.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. user:1bookfan

Comments

• Please justify the amount of articles on Wikipedia currently related to Marshall County in order for this WikiProject to be worth establishing. Thanks. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 10:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
• Absolutely not worth a project, too narrow in scope. Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
• Task force of Alabama is plenty sufficient. --Lquilter (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Micronutrients (or pick a more appropriate title)

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Description

This project would act to standardize articles on micronutrients (i.e., vitamins, minerals, amino acids, phytochemicals, hormones, enzymes, etc.). This category contains material that is applicable to many existing projects. Reading through the existing articles on vitamins and minerals, it is obvious that they were all created in an uncoordinated manner. For example, the article on vitamin D contains a subsection on deficiency. However, the article on magnesium does not contain a subsection on deficiency, though it does refer to a separate article on magensium deficiency in plants, which, in turn refers the surfer to a separate article on magnesium deficiency in humans.

I suggest that multiple parent projects (identified below) support this project by reworking existing articles into single articles on each micronutrient, and by collaborating on new articles, as necessary. The proposed sections for each article are:

• Lead In (template to be developed by the Chemistry Project, or assigned to Chemicals and Elements daughter projects) – to include chemical makeup of a micronutrient
• Sources - where it is available or how it is produced in nature; subsections would be:
  • Plant sources (which can be further broken down into subsections that support the Horticulture and Gardening Project, the Plants Project, or a yet-to-be-established Agronomy Project)
  • Animal sources (which can be further broken down into subsections that support the Fishes Project, the Mammals Project, etc., or a yet-to-be-established Animal Husbandry Project)
  • Mineral sources (template to be developed by the Rocks and Minerals Project or assigned to a daughter project)
  • Natural supplements (template to be developed by the Alternative Medicine Project or assigned to a daughter project)
  • For substances that are not produced or available outside of the body, the Sources section would simply refer to the Biochemistry section of the article
• Pharmaceuticals (template to be developed by the Pharmacology Project or assigned to a daughter project) – this would describe pharmaceuticals that provide the micronutrient
• Biochemistry (template to be developed by the Molecular and Cellular Biology Project or assigned to a daughter project) – to include homeostasis and metabolism
• Medicine (template to be developed by the Medicine Project or assigned to a daughter project) – to include a list of medical conditions associated with the micronutrient
• Assuming I have not captured all of the available information, additional sections could be identified and added to the standard template.

A major effort would need to be put forward to remove conflicts between these micronutrient articles and existing articles in the other projects. Many existing medical condition articles describe the micronutrient before getting into describing the medical condition (e.g., hypomagnesemia). I am suggesting that such medical condition articles be trimmed down to only describe the malfunction, diagnosis, treatment, and related conditions, with the applicable sections being moved to the micronutrient article.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Leeirons (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
2. [your name here]

Comments

Any recommendations for a better name? Leeirons (talk) 21:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Microscopy

Description

A project to expand and improve coverage of all content related to microscopes and microscopy, including optical, electron, and other forms of microscopy. Microtechnique, staining, fixation, and other aspects of sample preparation, as well as microscopy applications, are also within the scope of this project.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Peter G Werner (talk)

Comments

Coverage of microscopy topics on Wikipedia is now highly incomplete and existing articles tend to be underdeveloped, hence I think there is a need for this project. Microscopy topics have so far been treated under the scope of WikiProject Microbiology, however, the applications of microscopy go far beyond microbiology, and use of microscopes is central to many other biological and non-biological sciences. And, of course, the optics underlying microscopy are essentially a branch of applied physics. Peter G Werner (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Mills

Description

A project to cover windmills, watermills, animal engines and related topics. This would not include large industrial steel mills, saw mills etc.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Mjroots (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

What about Cotton mills, mill towns, bleachfields and tenterfields?... Any scope for them? Sorry, I am from Oldham (!) -- Jza84 · (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Moldova

Description

Please see #Moldova work group below —Preceding unsigned comment added by John Carter (talk • contribs) 14:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Museums

Description

I am surprised there is not at present a WikiProject tying together these repositories of the world's knowledge, and there needs to be.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Chris 07:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
2. Bernstein2291 (talk) 01:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
3. John Carter (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
4. Lquilter (talk) 21:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
5. Aqwis (talk – contributions) 21:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• There's been good work organizing the museums categories already, but I think this would be a great project. Suggested topics: individual museums; types of museums; history of types of museums; museum controversies (there are some great potential articles there); museums and pedagogy/informal education; museum funding (beef up IMLS, e.g.), museum associations, famous museum expositions/exhibits, technical museum exhibition-building (diorama is a terrible article), etc. --Lquilter (talk) 21:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The group has at least enough members for a task force. The question, I guess would be a task force of what? Maybe a joint task force of WikiProject Architecture and WikiProject History?John Carter (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes

Description

I've noticed that Mystery Science Theater 3000 has an episode list, but not pages on individual episodes—only brief details on the movies riffed. I think that the episodes themselves should have pages (and, judging by the discussion board for the episode list that several people agree. There are absolutely no details on the host segments on the episode list, and it would get rather cluttered if they were added. Not to mention that details on how each episode moves the plot along are not even mentioned on the episode list. Let's face it, it's not really fair to call it an "episode list". It should probably be moved to List of movies riffed on Mystery Science Theater 3000 or something.

Alas, that's not my point. If enough people are interested, I think that such a project might be useful. After all, the show ran for ten years—I'm going to need a bit of help!

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Wack'd ^{Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork!} 03:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• Be aware of WP:EPISODE. Not all TV episodes should have an article, just those that have significant real-world information. See also WP:FICT and WP:WAF. -- Ned Scott 04:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• I have read EPISODE, and it says nothing in there about the need for an article to include real-world information. I think that there is enough other info on other pages for MST3K to qualify for a 1-episode-per-page guide. --Wack'd ^{Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork!} 15:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe he was referring to the "What a Page Should Contain" section, which specifically indicates that an article should have information on, and I quote, "

• How the episode was received by critics
• Information on production and broadcasting of the episode
• Real-world factors that have influenced the work or fictional element." If any given episode doesn't contain enough information on such content to merit a separate article, there is a very real chance that those episodes will have any articles on them deleted as failing to meet WP:NOTABILITY requirements. John Carter 16:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I must have missed that.

• How the episode was received by critics--There is plenty of info on this...some episodes met critical aclaim amoungst fans, other episodes were critized because they felt whatever film didn't deserve the MST3K treatment...etc., ect., ect.
• Information on production and broadcasting of the episode--Some episodes had higher budgets than others. Some episodes had to be pulled from reruns because of right's issues. Some episodes are lost or had been lost. The list goes on and on.
• Real-world factors that have influenced the work or fictional element.--Each episode contained a movie that had been released into the real world at some point or another, and each film was not only featured in the episode but inspired most of the host segments.

Hope this takes care of all doubts. Tenk you veddy much. --Wack'd ^{Talk to me! • Admire my handiwork!} 20:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

• Task force should be suffice -- How many articles will have real-world notability? Not that many. --Lquilter (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Mystery Science Theater 3000. - LA @ 08:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Nazism

Description

A project to unify & improve the many articles relating to the Nazi Party, Adolf Hitler, Nazi Germany, Wehrmacht, Schutzstaffel, Nazi ideology etc as well as allowing more efficient collaboration between editors.

Interested Wikipedians

1. This is serious mother (talk) 15:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Probably best as a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany, possibly as a "Politics of Germany" subproject, as the scope of the existing topic is rather limited in time and number of articles. John Carter (talk) 15:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

It appears that the proponent, This is serious mother, has been banned from Wikipedia.--Cberlet (talk) 01:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

That does not invalidate the suggestion. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

New Wikipedians

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06:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

Helping new Wikipedians learn more about Wikipedia

Intrested Wikipedians

Comments

• Not opposed to the idea, but am curious how it would be different from the existing Welcoming Committee. John Carter (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

• Ditto, but I envision something more than just welcoming; I envision something of welcoming and informally adopting users. Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 06:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Old Catholicism

Description

To re-write in a participative and inclusive manner an article that is in need of attention by a wide range of knowledgable participants. The participants often have widely diverging opinions and standpoints

Interested Wikipedians

1. Spiorad (talk) 17:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• Should be no more than a workgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism. Chris (talk) 06:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
  • You need a lot more than just one article to justify all the work that goes into creating a project. I've never seen any project with less than 100 articles be viable, and the entire Category:Old Catholicism, with all its subcategories, only has 51 max. If there is interest, though, I think making it a task force of WikiProject Catholicism is probably the best idea. John Carter (talk) 22:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I agree, this user should participate in Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism and maybe try to get this article selected for a Collaboration of the Week/Month.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 06:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Pirates CSG & PocketModels

Description

Work on Pirates of the Spanish Main and Pirates of the Cursed Seas. This includes the pages for "Pirates of the Caribbean PocketModels", "Pirates of the Spanish Main", and "Pirates CSG Online" . page could use some work too, but it is mostly good. Pictures, references, and information are definitely lacking.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. SpeedyReturn

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Pixar

Description

Pixar Animation Studios have created some of the most memorable films of modern times, but its article and that of its films require a lot of work. We need to rewrite lots of parts, define what references and trivia are acceptable and reach our ultimate goal, namely that we get Pixar and its films up to Featured Article quality. Our secondary objectives are articles related to people related with Pixar like John Lasseter, Joe Ranft and Steve Jobs. Anyone else interested?

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Proposer: RMS Oceanic 09:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
2. Driveus
3. --$UIT 17:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
4. A•N•N•A hi!
5. wpktsfs 03:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
6. Martini833 01:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
7. Bernstein2291 02:53 17 April 2007 (UTC)
8. dogman15 02:24, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
9. Erik20202 11:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
10. Useight 21:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
11. — Cinemaniac (talk
12. Baitt --Baitt (talk) 05:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
13. DeSalvionjr Talk | Contribs 21:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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Comments

I wasn't sure if this should have been a task force, but since we're looking to improve at least eight articles (and more, as the films are released) I felt that was sufficient to warrant a project. RMS Oceanic 09:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

You might want to join up as a task force or child project of Wikipedia:WikiProject Disney. -- Ned Scott 00:30, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

That seems fine.--$UIT 04:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Pixar has quite a few articles, and it needs its own WikiProject. I know almost everything about all the Pixar films, long and short, and would be more than glad to join. Since Disney has nothing to do with Pixar, it should not be a part of the Disney WikProject, and it shouldn't be a part of WikiProject Films, because that is way too broad. I would be more than happy to join. A•N•N•A hi! 18:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Anna, I disaggree. Disney has lots do do with Pixar. However, I do aggree that Pixar should have its own wikiproject. I agree with SUIT that it might work out best as a child of Wikiproject Disney. Lets discuss...--wpktsfs 03:02, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

So how about the Pixar Taskforce?--$UIT 00:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Iºm not sure about taskforce. I think it would be better as its own project, albeit a child project of Disney. Basically, noticible enough for a Project, and linked enough with Disney to be a child project. Thoughts? RMS Oceanic 09:44, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It needs it's own WikiProject since some of their short films are not Disney branded. Martini833 21:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

There's always Wikipedia:WikiProject American Animation as a group with which this group could associate. And, considering the current scope of the project is, as stated above, eight articles, I really question whether at this time there is sufficient content to justify an entirely separate WikiProject. John Carter 22:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

It's more than eight, really. It just so happens those eight are the highest priority of the project. There's also the dozen or so short films they've created, character pages and current and past employees of note. We woudn't be the largest project, but I reckon we'd have plenty to keep us occupied. And remember: more films will come out each year. RMS Oceanic 06:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

You know maybe if someone tracks down all Pixar articles and add them to the project list then we could have the project up and running quickly. I know for sure they have 10 films, 15 or so short films, countless character and director pages, and some uncategorizable pages. So i would say it amounts to (at least) 30 to 50 pages. That is definitely enough for a WikiProject. (addition) There could be a WikiProject for all Pixar movies since they have sooooo many articles each so why is a Pixar project such a big problem? Martini833 20:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• It isn't that it's a problem. It's that there already are a number of full Projects out there, and that it's both easier on the people (me) maintaing the directory, and probably easier on the members of the project itself, if they allow an existing project to handle the "paperwork" of the project (assessments, banner, potentially peer review and collaboration) and allow the members of the more focused group more opportunity to focus their attention on the content. The only real functional differences between a task force and a WikiProject are the name and the banner on the talk page. It's already the case that many of the full banners are being hidden in the {{WikiProject Banners}}, so that functionally leaves the only real difference the name. Personally, as someone who was proposed and/or created three task forces for Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity, (Iglesia ni Cristo, and Methodism and Baptist on this page) it's easier and less time-consuming to create a task force than a full, stand-alone project, particularly if, as in this case, the proposal basically deals exclusively with content which is already within the scope of another, existing project. John Carter 14:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

This should be a taskforce, not a project in my opinion. As the note at the top says: If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc) then you should start a task force of an existing project instead of starting a whole new WikiProject. Making only a few number of films isn't that big of a scope for a project. Why is that hard to understand? Instead of making tons of tiny projects: use taskforces, then the related project can help out and so on. RobJ1981 22:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• A great idea! I've enjoyed Pixar's animation efforts over the past decade, and I'd be happy to help supply more information and clean-up such articles. —

I like the idea. Would it be part of WikiProject Disney or it's own thing. --Baitt (talk) 05:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

• Pixar shouldn't be a sub of Disney, since they collaborate but are legally and economically distinct. But, I tend to agree with John Carter on the task force vs. project issue -- it would be better, IMO, for Pixar to be a task force of animation if all are agreed. As a user of WikiProjects, it's a lot easier to have some hierarchical structure to find things -- too many individual projects of equivalent level just presents usability issues in terms of trying to grok that much information at once. Hierarchy lets us users absorb a few things at once, make a choice, then absorb a few other things and make a choice, and so on. --Lquilter (talk) 15:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
• Alternately, considering that arrangement with Disney may change at any time, it might be made a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject American Animation. And, as I have a bit of a passing interest in one of the company's alleged upcoming releases, I would be more than willing to help to try to set up the group's "structure" if and when a "parent" project is decided upon. John Carter (talk) 19:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Pixar. They have their own place for task force proposals, so please take a look there. - LA @ 08:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Political Science

Description

I have found Wikipedia to be rather lacking in issues concerning political science. This is distinct from politics - as a politicalscience student interested in International Relations, I'd love to see the development of some credible articles on issues like deterrence theory, the offense-defense theory, etc. In othe realms of political science, I think Wikipedia is underserved in a number of places - look at Consent of the governed if you need persuading. I'm not talking about political issues, but instead, broader structural issues and theory. There's some overlap with other realms, like Political philosophy, but there's a lot of content that really falls into a whole, unaddressed niche. Thanks!

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Jordanp (talk) 21:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC) (original poster)
2. --William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 22:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

I agree, there is a serious lack of acedemic attention to political science articles. Take Fenno's Paradox as another example. However, it would have to be very focused on staying out of the realms of "political issues" and "political figures" (one would have to be a masochist to get involved in that on Wikipedia), as well as keeping POV-pushers out of the political science articles. I would also like to suggest that the project include articles on Political Scientists, both classical and modern (Richard Fenno, As'ad AbuKhalil, etc).--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 22:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Pop music

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Description

A WikiProject for focusing on all forms of pop music (not to be confused with popular music). Within its scope would be mainstream and indie pop music; regional scenes such as J-pop, K-pop, and C-pop; and pop standards. I think a WikiProject would be quite helpful since the state of our pop articles is currently not that great, and many of the articles are incredibly listy without real information on the songs (see a recent example). ShadowHalo 23:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. ShadowHalo
2. Underneath-it-All
3. Ericorbit
4. Acalamari
5. Psdubow

Comments

This sounds like a nice idea, but I'm worried that the genre- and artist-specific music WikiProjects may be taking away from the centralised efforts at WP:WP MUSIC, WP:ALBUM and WP:SONG to improve Wikipedia's coverage of music. I do think that pop music articles tend to be poorer — often significantly so — than others, though. Extraordinary Machine 13:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

WP:MUSIC, WP:MUSICIAN, WP:ALBUM, and WP:SONG are already great resources for music articles. For this project, I was thinking along the lines of Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music, which seems to be a pretty effective collaboration. Obviously there's no point in duplicating the information at WP:ALBUM and WP:SONG. But it'd be good to have a more focused noticeboard of sorts. WP:MN isn't always very responsive to posts, so it would be good to have one tailored to some of the issues that pop music articles face. I've seen a lot of inflation of sales figures and chart positions; unsourced articles predicting next singles (at this point, nearly every song from The Sweet Escape has had an article); very, very listy articles with little information about the song itself; and POV, gushing prose that sounds like it comes from fansites. It seems like it'd be a good idea to have some users that could keep an eye on these things when they come up. 17Drew 19:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Popular Science Books

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Description

A project for popular science books such as Cosmos, The Ancestor's Tale, The Fabric of the Cosmos, ect.

Interested Wikipedians

1. Vital Forces
2. Guybrush

Comments

• This is an important area. Books published prior to Wikipedia are very poorly handled at present. Popular science books have a significant amount of attention and this project could be great. However, I'm concerned if there are not more participants, that it won't be a viable project. --Lquilter (talk) 16:09, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Further thoughts: task force of WikiProject Books could be good. --Lquilter (talk) 04:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Project Management

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Description

Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics is too large to focus on articles related to project management. This project would cover general topics of project menagement as well as some specific applications in construction, engineering, defense, and IT.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Solarapex - Project organization.
2. GageParker - IT projects especially ERP

Comments

Quran Criticism

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Description

Islamic-related articles are to be discussed then edited for critical views we will use many texts (some of which can be found using books.google.com and also try to add references to Islamic-related articles

articles

Biblical narratives and the Qur'an
Criticism of Islam
Criticism of Muhammad
Criticism of the Qur'an
Islamic view of Ezra
Legends and the Qur'an

articles that need immediate criticism
Islamic view of Jesus
Islamic view of Virgin Mary
Surah 9
Surah 36
Surah 37
Surah 38

articles that also need criticism
Islamic view of Aaron
Imran (father of Mary)
Islamic view of Saul

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. --Java7837 (talk) 14:11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

There is already a Biblical Criticism wikiproject so I do not see why this wikiproject should not be made. Also there is much criticism on the accuracy historically and scientifically of the Quran, Hadith, and other Islamic texts--Java7837 (talk) 14

11, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

This task force was created a while ago; it has been moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam/Islam and Controversy task force. Yahel Guhan 22:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I meant actually criticism of the Quran as too its supposed accuracy--Java7837 (talk) 22:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I completely understand your proposal. I do not object to the idea, but like I said, it may be a little bit duplicate in terms of purpose. Yahel Guhan 02:38, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• Academic usage of the term "criticism" -- which is what one would expect from an encyclopedia -- suggests concepts like literary criticism, basically, analysis. If the proposal is to gather together critiques of the Quran, then it should be so labeled. I am confused at this point what is intended. --Lquilter (talk) 14:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I do not mean critiques such as it is barbaric I mean textual criticisms of the text--Java7837 (talk) 22:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

a taskforce within Wikiproject:Islam may be more appropriate. if (academic) literary criticism is the topic, then this is pretty much known as tafsir (exegesis). i think it would be a nice idea to have a Qur'an taskforce under Wikiproject Islam (as we already have a Hadith taskforce), and that would obviously include analysis, compilation, and a whole variety of topics. ITAQALLAH 18:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

• I think the taskforce idea is a good one. Perhaps Biblical Criticism can similarly be made into a taskforce. --Lquilter (talk) 16:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Record labels

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Description

This WikiProject would help clean up, create, and organize articles about record labels. There are currently many articles that need to be cleaned up/created.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Izzy007
2. Michig
3. RatedR —Preceding comment was added at 21:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I think this would be useful for agreeing notability criteria for record labels, and suggested article content.--Michig (talk) 11:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Revolutions of 1848

Description

In 1848, liberal, nationalist, idealistic and republican revolutions swept across Europe. All the revolutions eventually failed, but nevertheless, the years of 1848-49 were a monumental turning point in the history of Europe, and their repercussions are being felt to this very day. I am terribly dismayed that Wikipedia's coverage of these revolutions is so poor and I appeal to all Wikipedians interested in the history of Europe to join in this project. Next year marks the 160th anniversary, and I for one would like to see our set of 1848 articles vastly improved by that time.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. K. Lásztocska 21:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
2. Chris 09:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
3. KissL 12:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
4. Εξαίρετος (msg) 15:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
5. István 20:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
6. Harrypotter 08:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
7. Lquilter (talk) 15:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Very good idea, but it is not completely correct that these events didn't accomplish anything; Denmark got its constitution (and a war) as a result of them. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Risk

Description

This would be a sub-project ofWikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics, however I feel its scope is sufficient to warrant a project of its own in the style of Wikipedia:WikiProject Economics and Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance. There are only 60 articles in the main risk category, but there are also 8 subcategories, most with other subcategories, totalling several hundred articles. This project would cover all of these. This includes things like areas of risk management such as auditing, business continuity, insurance and health and safety, legal standards and guidelines, statistical instruments with which risks are measured, concepts and theories of risk, etc. Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Samiharris (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC) Good idea. (Note from Caissa's DeathAngel - interest registered on Business and Economics WikiProject Talk Page)

Comments

There are many articles on these and related subjects, but only a minute number are of a high quality, and given the increasing importance in the business world of risk, I sincerely believe Wikipedia should have quality articles on these areas. Due to the increasing academia on the subject, coordination and effort should be all that is required to sort serious issues such as lack of sources. I have aleted Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics to my proposing this project. I welcome all interest with open arms. And, of course, participants. Caissa's DeathAngel (talk) 21:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Scottish Football

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Description

WikiProject Scottish football aims to establish and organise standards for Scottish football-related articles, resulting in well-structured and written articles. Also, all articles related to Scottish football will be made easier to find. Additionally the project plans to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Scottish football, to form a co-operative effort of contributions amongst Scottish football editors and aid the collaboration of editors with an interest in Scottish football, as well as to provide an area where contributors interested in Scottish football can identify each other and discuss any issues relevant to their area of interest or where they want to direct their activities.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN}^{we need to talk.}☆ 19:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

I'd suggest this follows the country taskforce structure of WP:FOOTBALL rather than a separate WikiProject. (See England, Italy, Spain...) Paulbrock (talk) 21:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Agree with Paulbrock (well I would seeing as I'm just helping to polish off the Taskforce creation guide for WP:FOOTY), project intends to use much of the infrastructure of WikiProject Football so it's best to turn it in a taskforce ASAP before articles are tagged. Foxhill (talk) 23:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Sealand

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Description

This WikiProject would be called WikiProject Sealand. Information on the Principality of Sealand has enough coverage on Wikipedia that it should have its own WikiProject. This WikiProject would improve Sealand articles, as not all the information on the Principality has been added to Wikipedia and the Principality of Sealand was once a featured article. This WikiProject could bring that article back to featured article status. I noticed Malta has its own WikiProject and is part of WikiProject European Microstates - I thought Sealand should have its own WikiProject.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Onecanadasquarebishopsgate

Comments

There has been confusion as to whether Sealand is a microstate or a micronation. There are sources supporting both microstate and micronation status, and the Principality of Sealand article is already part of WikiProject European Microstates and WikiProject Micronations. Because of this continuous confusion - I have thought of a solution:

1. The first task: At Talk:Principality of Sealand#The first sentence the dispute over the Principality's status and how it affects NPOV is ongoing - but is almost finished, and the article will represent both views fairly. This dispute will become a guideline for all Sealand articles and for WikiProject Sealand.
2. The second task is to create the WikiProject. This way there will be no disputes between those who support Sealandic micronation status and Sealandic microstate status because of the guideline.

Once the solution takes place, all Sealand articles will be NPOV and will represent both statuses. Onecanadasquarebishopsgate (talk) 14:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Assuming {{SealandNavigation}} is comprehensive and excluding redirects, Wikipedia has nine articles about Sealand, and I can't imagine that number growing significantly. This seems too narrow for a WikiProject. Pagrashtak 19:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Any suggestions of anything similar to a WikiProject for Sealand? Onecanadasquarebishopsgate (talk) 19:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Considering I see only nine extant articles in the Category:Sealand, I seriously question whether there is enough content to justify a separate project, or probably even task force. I believe that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Micronations already deals with all the articles in that category, I would think that simply taking advantage of the existing infrastructure of that project would probably be the best way to go, until and unless the amount of pages relative to the subject increases rather significantly.

Yet Sealand is also part of Wikipedia:WikiProject European Microstates, Sealand cannot rely just on WIkiProject Micronations - isn't there a seperate method, similar to that of a WikiProject, that can be created for Sealand articles? Onecanadasquarebishopsgate (talk) 21:53, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You might want to tell the European Microstates project that, as I don't think that they have specifically included it in their scope yet. And there probably are ways to create a task force/work group, but it would probably require more than nine articles, which is all Sealand currently has, to justify introducing all the changes into the EM project and others required to make it a separate group. If you get the five interested participants to create a separate project/work group, though, that would justify creating a separate project. But it would probably need at least 5 participants for a subproject and 10 participants for a separate project. John Carter (talk) 22:22, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, I don't think you need a WikiProject here at all, if your goal is to get an FA. Sad to say but most (by no means all) WikiProjects don't do a lot to create Featured content; rather they plaster templates everywhere, create a load of "rules", and then piss off! If it's a Featured Article you're after, you'd probably be best advised to hunt around for some expert writers and editors to help you, rather than micronation fans who will want to write in-universe and fill the articles with cheese. Also agree with the comment that this topic is too small to justify a WikiProject and is already in the scope of the Micronations project. Just my 2c. --kingboyk (talk) 13:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I hate to say he's probably right about that above. I'm probably one of the worst "plasterers" out there, and you can see how many GAs and FAs I've created: The big goose egg (0). A few others, particularly bots, have been guilty of that sort of work too, although none come to mind right now. If you wanted to, though, you might be able to persuade the real writers at the Micronations project to try to help you with the article. I think many of them have said it is one of their most important articles, and they might be willing to work with you to help improve it, particularly as it's already one of their best articles and will probably be the easiest one to bring to GA or FA status. John Carter (talk) 21:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Semiotics

Description

Although the organization of this family of pages has improved, and certainly filled out in the last year, it remains very difficult to understand the basic concepts (which are notoriously slippery), the history of the field (and therefore the historical context for the emergence of these concepts), and how these concepts are appropriated by and applied elsewhere in academia and by whom (and perhaps even some of the issues that arise in this transference).

For example, a comprehensive explanation of different models of the sign, primarily Saussure's model of signifier and signified and Charles S. Peirce's triadic model, remains distributed across the following pages - signs, sign relations, and Course in General Linguistics (linked to by searching or clicking on signifiant or [[signfie] on the signs page. note that signifier and signified get you to signs page, yet these words are just the english versions of the other two.). The first two are categorized under semiotics, the third, since it is a page about Saussure's book, is not, but it does a better job of explaining his model of the sign, what it means, what its consequences are (but not who it's been used by/what fields it has influenced.) In none of these pages are semantics models in linguistic mentioned or linked to (with exception of the 'course in' page, at the bottom), yet these deal with the nature and context of meaning, and therefore necessarily with signs.

It would also be useful to clarify the relationship between semiotics and linguistic, whether the former 'subsumes' the other (conceptually or in academic practice), how the latter's concepts and knowledge are used in the former .. since (according to semiotics) linguistics is the study of only one type of sign, the 'symbol' (semiotic term, not the colloquial usage or how its used by other parts of academia like in anthro. see: symbolic anthropology)

Similarly, it would be good to disambiguate signs, as used technically in Semiotics, from 'symbol' and 'sign' as used colloquially by people and technically by disciplines, and to do this coherent in all relevant/involved corners of wikipedia, including subject pages - symbol, Sign, symbolic anthropology maybe even structuralism - and disambiguation pages Sign (disambiguation), Signs (disambiguation), Symbol (disambiguation).

General problems related to (the field of) Semiotics, and its wikipedia presence: 1. Its concepts are difficult and slippery (and various terms, in attempting to clarify these concepts, are often used loosely, leading to difficulty. this happens on wikipedia and off.), due in part to the nature of the material and in part due to -> 2. Its language is often fairly obscure and technical 3. It is distributed across and/or has been influenced by different disciplines and their respective discourses. This leads to the field having different sets of conceptual tools and different analytic/rhetorical styles - ranging from the biological orientation of sebeok to the more 'european' and literary theory spin of Barthes or Eco, to the technical, complicated, but rigorous approach of Silverstein, who works in linguistics and it shows. The result is a. internal dissonance, and b. it is very difficult to introduce the field to outsiders. 4. It is defined and cut-up in different ways by its own practitioners and by outsiders. 5. On wikipedia, the semiotics pages often link to 1. pages that don't have the right meaning for the term, or to 2. pages that are isolated and/or not part of the umbrella. For an example, go to Syntagmatic_analysis. Click on paradigm (illustrates 1, since this a different concept), and then click on syntagmatic structure (illustrates 2, since this page is isolated, and its content doesn't articulate particularly well with 'syntagmatic analysis' or any other page in semiotics for that matter.)

(A tour through the semiotics pages, and through pages on the web (linked to by wiki, or found on google) will confirm the above.)

Moral: A Wikiproject would be great as a forum 1. to work out all the above issues and more, and to 2. coordinate the corrections and additions identified from this working out of issues process. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.204.190 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 12 January 2008

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Comments

1. Well written, if rather difficult to follow. I am curious as to how this would differ from the extant Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Language task force. John Carter (talk) 17:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Sex workers

Description

This project would be a gathering place for editors with a strong interest and knowledge in sex worker issues, including history, research and contemporary events and developments as they pertain to sex workers. We would focus on contributing to pages that directly affect or address, and/ or traditionally ignore, sex workers and their relevant perspectives, histories and experiences. A specific task force would focus on contributing to or creating entries for serial killers who focused on murdering sex workers as well as victims when appropriate. Yet another task of this project would be to monitor and counter sex worker discrimination and bias. In my opinion, just the first three entries listed below could take a team of dedicated editors an enormous amount of time and work to update and keep current. The following is a partial list (in no particular order) of potential pages as an example of some of the work that could be done. Please also feel free to contact me directly on my talk page with any suggestions or thoughts. Thanks. NoMonaLisa (talk) 07:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

• Sex Worker
• Sex Worker Rights
• Sex industry
• Robert Pickton
• Sexual Slavery
• Trafficking in human beings
• Prostitution
• Prostitution in the United States
• Prostitution in Nevada
• Prostitution in Rhode Island
• Prostitution in Australia
• Prostitution in New Zealand
• Prostitution in Saudi Arabia
• Prostitution in Turkey
• Whore (disambiguation)
• Slut
• Gary Ridgway
• Jack the Ripper
• Serial killer
• HIV/AIDS related topics (a list of which can be found on the HIV page)
• Sex tourism
• Hijra (South Asia)
• Striptease
• Lap dance
• Erotic dancing
• Strip club

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. User: NoMonaLisa
2. User: sarahjenny
3. User: Frao61
4. User: Doug
5. John Carter (talk) 18:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC) - probably primarily in copyediting, reviewing, and the like, as even to date I still haven't actually written many articles, but will do what I can
6. Iamcuriousblue (talk) - I actually thought something like this was needed awhile back after going seeing what an absolute mess articles like Prostitution and Sex worker were. Thumbs up to User:NoMonaLisa for getting this off the ground! —Preceding comment was added at 02:19, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

The project would have to ensure that none of the content violates WP:OR or WP:POV as well. Also, perhaps a more clearly defined scope would be in order. I am thinking that perhaps defining the scope as Category:Sex workers and its subcategories might be useful. Additional subcategories can be created for the content which does not currently exist within that category. John Carter (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I understand your concerns about violating WP:OR or WP:POV, however what I am suggesting (perhaps somewhat in an ill-worded way?) is that we abide by such Wikipedia suggestions/rules such as this one found on the WP:NPOVFAQ: 1.1.2: "....material that balances the bias should be added, and sources should be found per WP:V." Also to contribute where most people are not aware that there is more factual information to report since they simply haven't been exposed to it. This is a problem surrounding sex worker issues in general because of continuing problems with biased and unethical journalism standards concerning this population. A small example of information that could be added: on the Robert Pickton page it mentions that those murdered were women from Vancouver's Skid Row and that they were mostly prostitutes. However, it isn't mentioned (among many other things) that two sex workers from the same area were civilian reporters during the length of the trial. To address your other suggestion, I am not sure if I completely understand how the category/ sub-category framework would work yet. Sex worker as a category for some of the pages above might be considered extraneous (and thus deleted) although mention within the article would be relevant. Does that make sense? Thanks for taking the time to write. NoMonaLisa (talk) 21:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Generally, it works most easily if a porject has a clearly defined category with subcategories to place articles relevant to it in. That doesn't mean that all the articles have to be fit in that single category, though. A Category:Crimes against sex workers could be created within the Category:Sex workers, for instance. One way to phrase it might be that this group intends to deal with the articles in the Category:Sex industry, focusing the bulk of its attention on that content which isn't already covered in the clear focus of any other projects, like Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography. Would that be acceptable? Clearly, the Pornography project, like Doug said below, will overlap this one in several ways, but such a statement would allow your project to deal with the relevant content in that area as well, without "laying claim" to it. Other people could probably phrase it better, though. John Carter (talk) 22:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the Category, if you drill down through it, it seems to cover most of the topics discussed (that doesn't necessarily mean that has to be the name however).--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 00:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Not sure the title "Sex Worker Issues" is appropriate, it makes it sound like a forum. Seems like WikiProject Sex worker (second word after WikiProject is normally lower case) or WikiProject Prostitution. Suggest striking the reference to "(especially sex workers themselves)" in the description above to avoid suggestion of exclusivity as well as the issues User:John Carter mentioned.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 18:48, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I did strike out the reference to sex workers themselves. However, I am still wavering on changing the title from sex worker issues to simply sex worker which considerably narrows the scope of the project. There are a lot of topics that people wouldn't normally think that sex workers have involvement in (other than as passive victims), such as HIV/AIDS and serial murderers. I would like the people who get involved with this list to realize that we are not just going to edit and monitor topics relating to types of sex work and the sex industry. Perhaps there is some middle ground?NoMonaLisa (talk) 21:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I see your point, though I'm not sure that necessarily limits the scope. I can now see that Prostitution is far too narrow a term. On the other hand, you will find that some people who would join wouldn't have any interest in some of the issues anyway. What about WikiProject Sex work? That term is used on the article Sex worker and the term itself redirects there. Or WikiProject Erotic labour as in Canadian Guild for Erotic Labour? Those concepts certainly include the related issues within their scopes. Or even WikiProject Sex industry (though that sounds kind of blah). I really just don't like the issues word because it makes me think the project is going to discuss the issues rather than write about them. In any case, I think you should probably create shortcuts/redirects from WikiProject Prostitution, WikiProject Sex worker, etc. Even as you have it, I'm not sure that Slut really falls under the topic though and the article as currently written would seem to agree. Also there will be some overlap with Wikipedia:WikiProject Pornography - I don't see how you can avoid that. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 21:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Doug, I thought about it and decided to change the title to WikiProject Sex workers. What do you think about that?

Considering the other things I've said, I think I pretty much have to agree.  :-) Yeah, I like it better.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 23:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured since I just created a tiny stub for ISWFACE, I ought to add my name, mostly interested in sex worker rights type articles.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 22:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, the sex workers page needs to much work done that you could keep busy for a long, long, long time. Thanks so much for your interest and all the help you've given so far.NoMonaLisa (talk) 23:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I do get the impression that this group would probably function best as a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality. As such, it probably has enough support already (I could help with banners and tagging and such, making myself at least a quasi-member, even if I can't write very well or often). As such, it could still deal with most of the "issues" related anyway, considering most if not all would fall within the scope of the parent project. Also, we should remember that the average article will welcome input from any parties, regardless of project affiliation, anyway, whether the article is in their official "scope" or not. Regarding AIDS, for instance, that article is probably already as good as its likely to get, being an FA, but there wouldn't be any objections to creating separate articles about STDs in the sex industry, which would be more clearly within the scope of this group anyway. John Carter (talk) 14:29, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Hm, I suppose that I feel it's still a bit confusing and murky. For instance, clearly, WikiProject Sexuality and Society and WikiProject Pornography overlap. Yet, they are separate projects. A project centered around sex workers obviously overlaps with both of those projects yet it is also a separate subject. I am still having a hard time trying to figure out if it should be contained within the pre-existing Sexuality and Society group or if, like Pornography, it deserves its own project despite the fact that it can be included in the Sexuality umbrella. I do like your suggestion though that since the Sexuality project is already so well-established that there will be a good deal of people who will probably be exposed to the project and interested in helping. That may be a good enough reason to do it. Also thanks so much for your offer to set up banners and do tagging. Are there any structural examples of what you are describing to me as a good way to organize this project that I could look at on Wikipedia? I think seeing it tangibly on Wikipedia will help me make the final decision on this faster. Thanks so much.NoMonaLisa (talk) 23:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with John that it would be a subproject of Sexology and Sexuality, most projects are subprojects of something, it's just a way of thinking about topics, it doesn't really mean anything in my opinion. Yes, you could share a banner with them maybe and you'd probably link to each other's pages in any case; but even if you are a top level project (where it sometimes becomes a chicken and egg game - which is the parent Biology or Tree of Life?) you are never really "independent" we're all subprojects of "The Project". From the way I read it, John isn't suggesting a task force or work group, where you really are a subpage of the parent project, but simply a more or less formal relationship to another project. There's also a less formal parentage probably to WP:ECON or WP:BUSINESS (I don't see a WP:LABOR or WP:GUILD which might be more intuitive)--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 23:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

In a sense, if not in name, the Pornography project is already a "topical" subproject of the Sexology and Sexuality project. Basically, it might be possible to set up the project banner like either the Australia banner on Talk:Sydney or alternatively the Hinduism banner on Talk:hindu mythology, which actually contains both the "Hindu mythology" and "Hinduism" banners, although they appear separately. It would also provide assessments for both. I acknowledge I've had difficulties setting up copies of the Australia banner, but the Hinduism banner looks a bit more straightforward, if that's the example you'd like to follow. John Carter (talk) 01:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I like the format of the Talk:hindu mythology banner better. It seems clearer to me than the other. I think that I am about at the point where I would like to make this a sub-project of WikiProject Sexuality.

Wow, I've never seen that Hinduism banner before, that's an interesting way to do things. Doesn't really reduce "talk page clutter" (whatever that is) much, but it does show the "sub-project" in a much more prominent light than the Australia banner that treats the subproject similar to a WP:MILHIST task force.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 03:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Being a sub-project of (or perhaps until you get more editors signed-on, even a task-force under) sexology and sexuality certainly makes sense to me. To the list of suggested topics, perhaps you could add something along the lines of "Dominatrix" or "Professional BDSM" (to be both gender and top/bottom inclusive) or some such? Also, personally I really love the term "Erotic laborer" and prefer it to "Sex worker" since it's both more inclusive and less likely to be confounded with "prostitute". You may also wish to add topics for "erotic bodyrub" and/or "phone sex operator". To me, the focus on serial killers seems a bit arbitrary. Perhaps instead, a focus on "crimes against sex workers" with reference to both crimes, victims, and the way various legal systems might treat the incidents. The recent Judge Deni case in Pa. for example, has nothing to do with serial killers, but is rather relevant to the topic of sex workers. And perhaps expand the HIV/AIDS topic to also include other STIs which may be more commonly transmitted? --Ajasen (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I definitely envisioned all of the topics that you brought up as being relevant and part of this project. My list was an extremely partial one, not meant to be representative of all the topics that should be covered. The naked truth is that I started a list and then got tired-- thus the focus on prostitution which is overrepresented only because it's where I began. The Judge Deni case certainly would be covered. Please feel free to add all of the topics you suggested to the list. My suggestion about focusing on sex worker serial killers (not serial killers in general) was rather more because of a traditional basis around the way these crimes are reported and how sex worker community activism around these murders is frequently un/under-reported-- contributing to ignorance in the general public and encyclopedic world that sex workers are frequently agents of action rather than always the passive victim they are portrayed as. Having Crimes against sex workers as a category as John mentioned earlier in this conversation is a great idea. Please sign up as an editor! Thanks for your comments!NoMonaLisa (talk) 10:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I definitely think this is a needed project, since sex work-related articles on Wikipedia tend to be in a very messy and tendentious state. First, I think the title "WikiProject Sex Work" is probably best, since "sex work" seems to me to be more general, and hence more descriptive of the overall scope, than "sex workers". As for "sex work" versus "erotic labor" versus "prostitution", I really feel like "sex work" is both the most general and most established term. Prostitution, stripping, porn modeling, phone sex, etc, are all different phases of "sex work", so "sex work" is a good general term; also, "sex work" is in widespread use and has clear precedent in both general and social science literature; terms like "erotic labor" are not nearly so well-established. As for POV issues, yes, sex work is probably one of the most hotly controversial topics out there today, as quick search of feminist and sex worker blogs (as well as the general news media) will quickly reveal. And we should definitely be on guard biasing articles in favor of either a pro-sex industry, pro-sex workers' rights, or pro-abolitionist agenda. And I'll note that, if anything, I think I've seen the greatest degree of POV pushing coming from strong abolitionists – see Talk:Melissa Farley for a particularly notable example of this controversy, and see also Trafficking in human beings for a milder example of unbalanced coverage – having some authors on this subject who are coming from a perspective other than the "abolitionist" one would actually help inject a little balance into this subject. Not that self-described abolitionists don't belong in this project or that abolitionist perspectives shouldn't be covered in articles, its just a matter of balance. (Unfortunately, use of the term "sex work" is itself controversial, with abolitionists strongly opposing this term and demanding use of "commercial sexual exploitation", a far more POV and loaded term, IMO.) However, just because a topic is controversial should not disqualify it as a WikiProject. One need only look at the potential issues around the proposed "Feminism" project on this same page – same issues apply there too, after all. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 03:51, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Semi-pro football

Description

There are many pages on semi-pro football that have gone unattended. Semi-pro football gets very little to if any coverage and somewhere there needs to be a place in which info can be stored and recored for these teams and orginizations.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. User:Rick lay95
2. John Carter (talk) 18:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

These are all pages that are currently assiociated with semi-pro football:

• Mid Continental Football League
• 2007 Mid Continental Football League season
• Cleveland Lions
• Columbus Fire
• Detroit Black Ravens
• Detroit Seminoles
• Evansville Vipers
• Flint Fury
• Hardin County Wolverines
• Indiana Mustangs
• Kings Comets
• Louisville Bulls
• Northern Kentucky Xtreme
• Ohio Swarm
• Southern Michigan Timberwolves
• West Michigan Force
• Jackson Bombers
• Central Ohio Lions
• Michigan Twisters
• 2007 Louisville Bulls season
• Hawaiʻi Football League
• 808 Lighting
• Central Warlords
• Halawa Hurricanes
• Hawaiian Warriors
• Hilo Bulls
• Hilo Storm
• Kalihi Lighting
• Kaneoche Hammerheads
• Kauai Cowboys
• Kauai Enforcers
• Kauai Knights
• Kihei Heat
• Kona Ikaikas
• Kona Razorbacs
• Koolau Monarchs
• Leeward Chiefs
• Maui Magic
• Maui Stars
• Na Kani Koa
• Oahu Golden Eagles
• Pacific Iron Dogs
• Wahiawa Express
• Waiakea Rage
• Waianae Fighting Hawaiians
• Waimae Warriors
• Winward Hawks
• Tennessee Rattlers
• Alliance Football League
• Buffalo Gladiators
• Racine Raiders
• Toledo Thunder
• USA Bowl
• Tsunami Bowl
• Buffalo Lancers
• Canton Hurricanes
• Chicago Panthers
• Cincinnati Cowboys
• Cincinnati Falcons
• Cleveland Falcons
• Columbus Sharks
• Cook County Cardinals
• Dayton Drive
• Dayton Steelers
• Detroit Panthers
• Erie Hawks
• Fort Wayne River City Rhinos
• Genesee Bandits
• Hornell Dragons
• Illinois Flying Tigers
• Kalamazoo Tornadoes
• Kane County Eagles
• Lafayette Generals
• Lafayette Lions
• Lockport Invaders
• Lorian County Rebels
• Lorian County Steelmen
• Michigan Bearcats
• Michigan Renegades
• Milwaukee Marauders
• Monroe County Wildcats
• North Coast Rebles
• Northern Kentucky Raiders
• Pontiac Chargers
• Rochester Warriors
• Sangamo Express
• Shenango Valley Blasters
• Springfield Buccaneers
• St. Louis Bulldogs
• St. Louis Outlaws
• Stark County Wolfpack
• Syracuse Express
• Toronto Athletics
• Will County Buccaneers
• Will County Force
• Wyandot Chiefs
• Derby City Thunder
• London Silverbacks
• Central Kentucky Studs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick lay95 (talk • contribs) 14:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

One of the problems is that it may in some cases be hard to establish notability. But I certainly can see creating the group, maybe as a task force of one of the extant Football projects? John Carter (talk) 18:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Not to be a nag, but the non-existant pages are not nessicarilly benificial. "--**macph***-- {{subst:dated adoptme}} (talk) 23:29, 20 January 2008 (UTC)"

Understood, I just thought I would include every page that would fall under the category of semi-pro football. Also I hope that I am not the ONLY person editing and creating these pages. Rick lay95 (talk) 16:33, 21 January 2008 (UTC)rick_lay95

All semi-pro related articals can be found here:

Category:Semi-professional football —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick lay95 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

How long dose it usualy take to get a responce if you get a wiki project or not? Its almost been two months since this was posted. Rick lay95 (talk) 18:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)rick_lay95

It helps to post links to this page on some relevant other pages and maybe, in this case, projects, like the other American football projects, to see if there is any support. John Carter (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Software

Description Wikiproject which seeks to provide free and copyleft softwares for all to use. Any computer literate software authors can join and contribute. 219.74.10.137 (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians: Please vote.

Comments

• I don't understand the scope of this project. The project is for wikipedians to develop software. Is the software related to wikipedia? --Lquilter (talk) 15:32, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Soul Calibur

Description=This project would be about all of the Soul Calibur games

PAH Page

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

Comments

Obviously we would want to add linksto all the other games, and manufactorers, on each page, so instead of this being one page, it would an interlaced series of pages. Obviously, ensure that all references are cited and accurate (but you probably are quite knowledgable in the Soul Calibur games, based upon your interest). Otherwise, I personally approve if that project. "--**macph***-- {{subst:dated adoptme}} (talk) 23:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)"

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject:Students' unions

Description

This project is to help expand the vast number of students' union articles. Students' unions themselves have done notable things, but as there are a large number of universities, so are there a large number of unions. The project is to create and expand upon articles for these unions.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. GreenJoe 18:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
2. DGG (talk) 18:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
3. FullSmash26 (talk) 06:15, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
4. [your name here]

Comments

Create, expand upon, define appropriative content, and , in my opinion, try to establish them as a place to merge articles for many individual student activities at particular universities. DGG (talk) 18:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

• Existing Task Force: TF:SA. I'd say the on-going (and unsettled) dispute on the issue of whether student unions are notable and satisfy WP:ORG are grounds on not granting immediate approval of receiving its own WikiProject. The amount of articles on student unions that actually fulfill current Wikipedia policies such as WP:N, WP:ORG, WP:CORP using WP:RS (and keeping in mind WP:COI and WP:NPOV) are few and far between. I'm not sure if a WikiProject for such distinct selection of articles is necessary. I believe that the Student Affairs Task Force that WikiProject Universities provides is more than enough to handle these articles. Note side discussion on topic at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities/Student Affairs#New WikiProject proposal. However, if consensus is reached that all student unions are notable (regardless of all of those policies), then I'd join it. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 21:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
• Notability Dispute I have to agree with Jameson on the whole here. There is still an ongoing dispute as to whether SUs are notable or not. If this WikiProject were approved, they'd undoubtably state that all SUs are inheritently notable, which would completely ignore the current discussions and go contrary to all those who disagree with this. Resolve the dispute first - if it falls a certain way, after all, there will be no need for this group. _TalkIslander 12:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. They want to be ceded "inherent notability" so that we can have thousands of pages with lists of ambitious polisci majors? In itself this is an admission that student unions are in general not notable at all. A little research shows that they have had very limited historical impact. Search for books on them; hardly anything. Search in regular newspapers, and all you get is the occasional scandal. Paddy Simcox (talk) 17:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

nope. don't know about "they" but I want to make it clear that lists of student officers do not belong in articles, and that articles about student clubs in general should be merged if at all possible. The point is to cut down on the proliferation. DGG (talk) 22:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, fair points DGG, but you haven't actually denied or confirmed anything regarding the notability of student unions (not clubs, unless you are using the terms interchangeably). What is your view on the notability of an SU? Does it follow WP:ORG, or something else? _TalkIslander 22:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Strong Oppose Students Unions are hardly ever notable. In general, they are devoid of Reliable Third Party Sources and most of the material is Original Research (usually lists of former members and minutiae about who sponsored what constitutional amendment. Any information that passes WP:RS, WP:OR, and WP:Notability fits well within the main university article.--RedShiftPA (talk) 02:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose, as others have mentioned Student unions/clubs/organizations are rarely, if every, notable. They are not exempt from the notability guidelines and do not inherit the notability of their school. As such, a project to actively create and/or maintain articles that go against WP:N that would be pure OR and barely sourced material is not a good idea at all. Collectonian (talk) 10:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
• Comment: Almost every University has a newspaper that fits WP:RS. These newspapers will report on the goings on of the student union, which should ease the WP:N, WP:OR and WP:V concerns. Oren0 (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

While I don't want to accuse anyone of suckpuppetry, it seems that RedShiftPA and Paddy Simcox are joined at the hip regarding this issue. See User:RedShiftPA/Cleanup and diffs including canvassing: [1] and working as a pair: [2] [3]. I don't know why, but these guys are on a crusade against University Organization pages. Have a look at their contribs (Special:Contributions/Paddy_Simcox Special:Contributions/RedShiftPA). In the case of Paddy Simcox, how many 3-week old editors do you know who have placed dozens of prods and started/voted in dozens of AfDs (almost all delete votes as far as I can tell) already? Conservatively 2/3 of his ~100 edits are related to deletion of articles related to student organizations. The opinions of these two should be taken with a large grain of salt in my opinion. Oren0 (talk) 17:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

The X-Files

Description

this is a proyect that wants to organize every episode of the series The X-Files, their characters, and all relate to their universe, such as the Black Oil the Syndicate, etc.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. frao61
2. blackngold29 —Preceding comment was added at 21:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Taskforce at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/The X-Files. The taskforce should include The X-Files, Millennium, and The Lone Gunmen in all media. - LA @ 08:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Transpersonal Studies

Description

A project to work on articles such as those on transpersonal psychology but also on those such as transpersonal art, transpersonal business studies, transpersonal ecology and transpersonal anthropology - in short, any topic that falls within the category of transpersonal studies (see how some of these disciplines have been classified). Although WikiProject psychology might take care of the article on transpersonal psychology, this needed interdisciplinary project would help to ensure comprehensive coverage of all these articles.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

Comments

Although I started articles on transpersonal ecology and other transpersonal disciplines, my background is in psychology, and I would really appreciate an expert on business studies to update the article on transpersonal business studies. This project, by its interdisciplinary focus, could help to ensure that a number of people in different fields contribute to these articles, to escape an exclusive focus on psychology. As one will see if one looks at the histories of most of these articles, I tend to be the only person who edits most of these articles, and I would like a more co-operative venture in editing them. This group could also be useful in edits to related articles, such as those on mysticism, Carl Jung, William James, Abraham Maslow or altered states of consciousness. ACEOREVIVED 21:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

• Why is this listed here and below under task forces?--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 03:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I shall plea for this to be deleted- there was no response, except from some one who had obviously put his or her comment in the wrong section!ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC) Thank you for Doug, I am glad that some one has spotted that some edits do get into the wrong section on Wikipedia. I am happy for my ideas about transpersonal studies to be deleted - I seem to be the only Wikipedian willing to edit articles such as that on transpersonal ecology! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Tuner Cars

Stale

06:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

This WikiProject would focus on creating and editing tuner car pages. The main focus would be on the stats sections, as well as creating articles for the various aftermarket companies that provide parts for these magnificent cars.

Interested users

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WikiProject Ugly Betty

To clean up and add information on Ugly Betty.

Interested Wikipedians (Please add your name)

1. RandomGuy 9929 (talk · contribs)

Comments

• If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス) (talk) 04:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose, already covered by the Television project and a single show does not need its own project. At best it should just have a handful of articles, the main, one for characters, and one for episodes, perhaps with sub-articles covering particularly notable aspects of the show if any. Collectonian (talk) 20:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
• SupportThis would be awesome. Get it started now. I'll help. The show is bigger and only growing bigger. So is the number of pages on Ugly Betty. I say go for it. Also a lot of shows have there own WikiProject. What's the difference.--BAITT (talk) 19:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

United Kingdom Supermarkets and Retailers

Description

A project to develop the coverage and history of Supermarkets and Retailers founded and operating in the United Kingdom, a subject where there is no group, but there is reason to have one. The group would also write and document the history of the founders of companies listed. Once developed, the group could spawn other wikiprojects based on the same subject, however about other countries, such as "United States Supermarkets and Retailers", "Australia Supermarkets and Retailers"

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Hencetalk
2. Police,Mad,Jack

Comments

If this were to go ahead, i think there would need to be a greater project on this, perhaps one on supermarkets etc across the world. Convenience store, Minimarkets, Hypermarkets all fall in as well. Simply south (talk) 22:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The user who came up with this project has been indef blocked. Joshuarooney2008 (talk) 16:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Unionism

Stale

06:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Description

A project to develop the coverage of Unionism, particularly with reference to Unionist members of the Northern Ireland House of Commons, particularly Ministers and Prime Ministers. Biographies of actors are mostly missing pre 1985, and work needs to be done on the institutions and events that formed and sustained the movement.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

• Traditional unionist 11:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• --Counter-revolutionary 12:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• --sony-youth^pléigh 12:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Valenciano 11:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
• Padraig 21:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
• Warofdreams talk 13:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
• Conypiece 20:06, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Why cut the scope down to biographies of UUP MPs 1922-72? Unionism in Ireland is much broader than that. --sony-youth^pléigh 12:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Apologies, that is more a short term aim rather than the scope of the project.Traditional unionist 12:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Given the current dispute over Northern Irish politics, I wonder whether this is the best proposal, or whether a WikiProject on Northern Irish politics would be more productive? I'm aware that Unionism is broader than that, but Unionism in Northern Irish politics would presumably be a major focus of this project. Such a project might, potentially, help further discussion and a NPOV in this often controversial field. Please note that I'm not arguing against this proposal, just investigating an idea. Warofdreams talk 17:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I disagree entirely. I think it would be very beneficial, remember the members don't need to be unionists! What's unhealthy is to raise these sort of issues before you've seen it in operation. Does the Irish Republicanism project cause trouble? Apparently not, so I hardly think this one would. --Counter-revolutionary 17:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm specifically not saying that this project wouldn't be beneficial. I suspect that it probably would be. All I'm doing is offering a suggestion for an alternative or additional possibility. I think that this is the ideal time to raise the idea. If it gains no support, then fine, I'll happily support this proposal. Warofdreams talk 17:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I think a project on NI politics in general really would be too broad. --Counter-revolutionary 17:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I would support both proposals. They're not mutually exclusive and there's no reasons why we couldn't have both projects going simultaneously. Valenciano 21:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I would be interested in this especially the 1922-1973 period, as I have added alot of info to existing bio's on members of the former NIHOC.--Padraig 21:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, an umbrella for the "two" camps, would be useful, I believe - exchange of information, people, energy, related drives, etc. - not to mention keeping the peace by ensuring that two opposing camps don't emerge. --sony-youth^pléigh 10:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Great, it seems there is some interest in both proposals. I'll put my name to this one, and unless someone else does it first, I'll put in a proposal for a Northern Irish politics WikiProject. Warofdreams talk 13:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Warofdreams, I would support a Northern Ireland politics Wikiproject, but not a Northern Irish one, that is devisive, I would also support an Unionist or Irish Unionist wikiproject which I think would be beneficial to Wikipedia.--Padraig 20:17, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

You object to the word Irish? That is objecting to proper grammar!Traditional unionist 20:22, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

No I object to a Unionist campaign to protray the people of Northern Ireland as northern Irish as if they are a seperate nationality from the Irish population.--Padraig 21:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Well alas that's not for you to say - indeed there is a lot of evidence to say that the Northern Irish identity is increasing above British and Irish amongst both communities. Regardless, this has enough support now doesn't it?Traditional unionist 12:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

But Wikipedia is not a soapbox to promote a political campaign, and the name of the project should reflect that.--Padraig 21:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite so. Which is why it makes more sense to use the grammatically correct Northern Irish.Traditional unionist 22:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The proposed Wikiproject would be for Northern Ireland Politics, why would you support a name that is devisive unless you intend to exclude editors that don't share a Unionist POV on Northern Ireland, wikiprojects are intended to help editors work together to further Wikipedia not cause division.--Padraig 22:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

The divisiveness of such a name is tenuous in the extreme. And thus far, you are the only pedant to have aired a negative view.Traditional unionist 22:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

One doesn't have to support unionism to help out with this project of course! --Counter-revolutionary 23:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I have created a proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Politics of Northern Ireland. Please have a look and comment; if you are interested in participating, please add your name! Warofdreams talk 19:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Utopia

Description

WikiProject Utopia is a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of all things pertaining to Utopian thought, thinkers, communities, and literature.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Rabidwolfe
2. Lquilter
3. John Carter (talk) 21:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
4. Libertatia

Comments

It seems to me that since Utopianism is not, as some think, a mere subset of science fiction, but instead covers a wider variety of political philosophies, and stretches from Plato to the modern day, we should have a project focused on it.Rabidwolfe 00:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly. I note however that the Category:Utopias and all its subcategories only has about 300 articles in toto, and I wonder whether that's enough for an entirely separate project. John Carter 00:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

That's one thing I'd like to work on - that category could be radically expanded if we started including (and creating) more articles on utopian communities, philosophies and thinkers. Why is there no sub-category for Utopianists like Edward Bellamy or even occasional utopianists like Charles Dana or William Dean Howells, etc.? It seems to me that the Category: Utopias could easily be three times the current size if we just put some effort into it. I just wish I had the time. I'm going to do as much as I can, but I don't have world enough and time to do it all. Rabidwolfe 02:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

• Even if this were simply a project about the literary movement, it would be needed. Although "adopted" by "SF", utopian literature is a quite distinct literary form, and has significant relationships with political thought. It seems this is also intended to cover intentional communities, which are also in great need of attention. --Lquilter (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. The idea is to expand the concept of Utopia on the Wiki, and intentional communities and other Utopian experiments/communes/etc. are definitely part of that. Glad to have you on board! Rabidwolfe (talk) 21:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm an intellectual historian, focused largely on libertarian movements, but I come across utopian material all the time in otherwise obscure periodicals. I am gradually archiving much of that material on my own wiki, and would be happy to contribute to a project on Utopias as time allows. At the very least, I should be digging up more fodder for such a project. Libertatia (talk) 16:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Waste Management

Description

I always wondered why articles like Sanitation in Ancient Rome were badly neglected and articles like Landfills on the Moon were never created. Its because a project based on Waste Management doesn't exist to take care of articles about sanitation, landfills, garbage disposal, nuclear waste, and sewage. I'd like to create WikiProject Waste Management.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. --Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 04:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject WikiMoney

Description

Wikipedia:WikiMoney has existed since the early stages of wikipedia itself. It has been dead for some time and now I want to revive it. Obviously the old experiment had many members and I think the system would work better as a WikiProject. It provides an incentive for editing and would significantly improve the project.--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 04:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Uga Man
2. AxelBoldt

Comments

• Several people had problems with the title "WikiMoney" at the time; maybe "WikiProject Give and Take" or "WikiRewards" would be more agreeable. AxelBoldt (talk) 05:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
• One very possibly objectionable idea, but here goes. Maybe WikiMoney could be tied to translate roughly into a real-world benefit? Say, as an example, $????.00 WikiMoney gets you a scholarship ot other assistance to the next Wikimania or maybe other directly Wikipedia-related items. It might involve giving the project a bit more organization, and a rather clear "price guide", but it definitely might help the idea's prospects. Obviously, of course, it would help dramatically if someone were to provide underwriting of the idea as well. John Carter (talk) 18:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject for the resolution of Japanese Culture Pages

We would create or edit articles that would souly correct and make articles based around Japan easier to read. Akira-otomo (talk) 18:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

That exists already under WikiProject Japan. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Xenaverse

This will be a wikiproject that will overview the Xenaverse as a whole. This includes characters, the two shows, the movie, and a lot more.

Interested Wikipedians (Add Your Name If Interested)

--Baitt (talk) 06:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

If the scope of your project idea is very narrow (such as a TV show, music band, video game, etc), or your idea is a variation on a common theme, consider starting a task force of an existing project instead of a whole new WikiProject. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not just a tv show. It is a enire franchise, that needs some work. There is a lot more than just a tv show in the xenaverse.--Baitt (talk) 14:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose, we have enough with Xenaphiles filling Wikipedia with Xena fancruft. At best, this should be a task force under the television project, regardless of to related media, and then only if the participants are willing to actually adhere to WP:N, WP:FICT, and WP:V and not just created plot filled articles. Collectonian (talk) 10:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

World Map

Description

I was hoping that someone will creat a moving world map that show the movement of the world shaping. From borders to earth movements, this map will be move year by year. Much like the map from Image:Mongol Empire map.gif. Please create this project because i am really interested to see how the world shaped.

Interested Wikipedians (Add Your Name If Interested)User:Kain1218/Wikiproject World Map —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kain1218 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Task forces/Work groups

There are advantages to proposing a new group as a task force of an existing project. Generally, task forces require fewer members to be effective and do not have the same degree of required project maintenance, as much of that is taken on by the parent project. If you would like to set up a new group specifically to function as a task force of another project, please list it below.

30 Rock

Description

This task force would aim to create a page for each individual episode of the situation comedy 30 Rock and have them live up to WP:EPISODE. Also, it would be a division of WP:TV.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Jamie jca (talk) 21:48, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Comments

American Football Video Games

Description

This project would be devotedly dedicated to helping out, coordinating and fixing all content related to american football video games, such as Madden, NFL 2K, Arena Football, and etc. This task force would go under the Mother WikiProject WP:PROJDIR/GT

Founding Member

• TheNextOneAcross (talk) 05:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. TheNextOneAcross (talk) 05:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

American girl (company)

Description:this Wiki project is one that improves and is about American girl and every thing about it!Saturn star 19:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name!)

• John Carter 15:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

--Princess Janay (talk) 17:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Only one. Please define what you mean by American Girl. If you are referring to the toy company, I note that there right now isn't an "action figure"/Barbie/whatever project extant, and that the likelihood of this groups success would probably go up significantly if it were to broaden to include those subjects as well. And you might want to sign your own name, as well. John Carter 00:51, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

you know what? i like that idea!Saturn star 19:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Chuck (TV series)

This WikiProject Task Force would be to create character articles and episode articles for the US television show, Chuck. Additionally, it would be a division of WP:TV.

Interested Wikipedians (Add Your Name If Interested)

Comments

Fancruft sorting and cleanup

Description

This is a taskforce to deal with all the fancruft on Wikipedia. These articles are getting out of hand. We’ve had instances recently where notices were placed on fan website’s and dozens of people came in to fight the deletion of fan pages. What a mess! This taskforce will improve and categories articles that can be saved, and put up for deletion those that are pure cruft.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. S.dedalus 05:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
2. Guybrush (talk) 09:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Is there a Wikipedia article or policy on fancruft? I understand the concept, but we do we have a benchmark against which to measure it? I would like to remove as much of it as possible; there are much better places for it (Wikia springs to mind). -- Guybrush (talk) 09:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Methodism

Description

A group, possibly a work group of Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity, to deal with those articles relating to the Methodist churches, their history, people, theology, etc.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. John Carter (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

1. User:Robert of Ramsor (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

1. I'll be happy to design the project pages if there is demand for the group, but the subject is not one that I could contribute a great deal to. -- SECisek (talk) 18:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

National Express West Midlands and Coventry bus routes work group

Description

A group to focus on creating, improving, and maintaining articles on the National Express West Midlands and National Express Coventry bus routes. WP is West Midlands WikiProject that they come under.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. TOMBRANT407 (talk) 16:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Moldova work group

Description

A group to focus on creating, improving, and maintaining articles on the nation of Moldova.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. John Carter (talk) 14:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
2. Xasha (talk) 17:38, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

For the purposes of reducing the number of banners, and possibly more quickly starting the group out, this group is currently being considered first as a subproject of either Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe or Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe.

Oakland Raiders

Description

Fixing Oakland Raiders related articles. Similar projects like Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago Bears. --Louis Alberto Guel 00:29, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians

• Louis Alberto Guel

Comments

Percussion

Description

The percussion task force would aim to improve the content and categorization of percussion-related articles. The major trigger for the start of this task force was my concern at the lack of breadth within the actual percussion article, in coverage of various styles and regional percussion usage. More specific categorization of percussion articles would also be a major goal, as the top-level categories could be consolidated and organized more logically, instead of being in various standalone groups; and stub categories could use better specification. There are numerous holes in article content as well, including quite a few articles not cited (despite the wealth of percussion references available), general lack of templates and sound samples, and very few (if any) good or featured articles. WikiProject Music needs focused effort to improve the section of Wikipedia on perhaps the largest class of instruments, which is not an easy task.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Kakofonous (talk) 23:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Roman Catholicism in Great Britain

Description

This task force (connected to WikiProject Catholicism) would standardise the articles and templates pertaining to the religion of Roman Catholicism on the island of Great Britain (where England, Scotland and Wales are situated). This includes the modern day structure of the Church on the island, including the five provinces of England and Wales, as well as the two provinces of Scotland.[4]

There are many articles which I feel would benefit from the attentions of such as taskforce and it would be useful to centralise them all (including the general history) as in the huge main project they could be harder to find and sort, the articles related to it are currently lacking.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Yorkshirian (talk) 00:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
2. Robotforaday (talk) 20:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Sakura Wars

Description

A task force dedicated to creating and improving the Sakura Wars articles. There was a suggestion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#WikiProject Sakura Wars? and it has been said that this project will be a task force rather than a Wikiproject. This series is very popular in Japan and that is the reason I want to create the articles relating to this series and make them featured or good article status. My subpage is at User:Sjones23/WikiProject Sakura Wars and I am working on some articles at my subpages (they are User:Sjones23/Sakura Wars (video game), User:Sjones23/Music of the Sakura Wars series, User:Sjones23/List of Sakura Wars titles, User:Sjones23/Sakura Wars: The Movie and User:Sjones23/Sakura Wars 2). The taskforce will be a division of WP:VG for the games, WP:ANIME for the anime-related series and WP:FILMS for the movie. I am a huge fan of the Sakura Wars series. Similar projects like WP:FF and WP:STARWARS, which I am also a part of. Greg Jones II 03:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Greg Jones II 03:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Comments

You don't need to propose task forces here. If you want to create a task force, it should be discussed on the project talk page. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, right. I will make sure I will do that as well. Greg Jones II 02:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

September 11th

Description

This would be a task-force within WP:TERRORISM and would work on improving articles relating to the September 11th attacks; there are at least 175 articles relating to the attacks (most needing attention). I was actually surprised there wasn't already a task-force/wikiproject about 9/11. Here is a possible userbox idea:

User:Noahcs/Userboxes/Sep11

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

• Noah¢s (Talk) 20:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
• — Xiutwel ♫☺♥♪ (talk) 13:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
• Leobold1 (talk) 01:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
• Basketball110 _{what famous people say} 19:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Star Wars video games

Description

A task force of WP:VG, though this task force would definitely have some links with WP:STARWARS. The category bearing the same name as this proposed task force shows that there are plenty of articles which it would cover: well over eighty.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Una Laguna^Talk 18:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
2. EEMeltonIV 18:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
3. Phoenix-wiki (talk · contribs) 14:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
4. Polarbear97 01:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
5. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills —Preceding comment was added at 19:58, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments

It looks like you can go qahead and create this now, it has enough interest--Phoenix-wiki ^{(talk · contribs)} 17:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Southeast Asian cinema

Description

The Southeast Asian cinema task force is a proposed task force of WikiProject Films and WikiProject Southeast Asia for the purpose of gathering interested editors in the common purpose of improving Wikipedia coverage of the Southeast Asian cinema and raising the quality of already-existing articles.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk · contribs)
2. --J.L.W.S. The Special One 15:23, 7 November 2007 (UTC) Such a task force would help fight systemic bias. I have written a GA on a Singaporean movie - I Not Stupid - and intend to write another, so I believe I can be an asset to the task force (and WikiProject). Perhaps you should also invite Goh wz, who has also written a GA on a Singaporean movie - Singapore Dreaming.
3. Warlordjohncarter (talk · contribs) - not exactly my field but will help where and how I can
4. Wisekwai (talk · contribs)

Comments

I had earlier wanted to propose a task force for the cinema of Thailand, but even as a task force, the scope was pretty narrow. By expanding it to cover Southeast Asia, it groups together several smaller industries. Additionally, several editors working on the films from one Southeast Asian country are also likely to be contributing to articles about films from other Southeast Asian countries.

A proposed task force page has been started here, where interested editors may also sign up. — WiseKwai 11:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Transpersonal Studies

Description: As with my above proposal to have WikiProject Gerontology, this would be an interdisciplinary project. It might seem strange to propose a project group to oversee transpersonal psychology and related topics such as altered states of consciousness, but there are now articles in Wikipedia such as those on transpersonal ecology, transpersonal anthropology and transpersonal business studies - and I seem to be the only person to edit most of these articles! If there could be more interdisciplinary work to look at not just transpersonal psychology but these disciplines in general, then it could ensure that experts in a variety of fields who are also sympathetic to transpersonal psychology could regularly update the articles.

Could interested Wikipedians please add their names? Comments: I shall happily look at comments on this proposal, and readers may also leave messages on my userpage. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Venus

Description

A task force of WikiProject Astronomical objects, this task force would focus on improving articles related to the planet Venus, its exploration, the astronomers who studied it, and its geology.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. Shrewpelt
2. Dust Rider —Preceding comment was added at 18:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Auawise —Preceding comment was added at 09:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

This has quite a small scope. Too small to justify even a task force, I think--Phoenix-wiki (talk · contribs) 14:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

• I counted 125 or so articles currently in the Category:Venus. If 80 is enough, 125 should be as well.
• I agree, it has a very small scope. But if such a task force is established, I am interested in joining. Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 09:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikidelete 2008

Description

[A Wikiproject solely devoted to nominating and providing support for AFDs.

Rationale:

• Make WP look more "professional".
  
• Clear up bandwidth
  
• Provide more debate in AFDs
  

Goal For 2008 will be the deletion of 50,000 articles. ]

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. User:Librarianofages

Comments

I have very real reservations about the proposed goal. Any group setting up a goal of deleting 150 articles a day is running a very serious risk of putting that goal before wikipedia's own goals, of providing verifiable information. I cannot necessarily believe that with such a goal in place, all the articles being proposed for deletion will be reviewed as thoroughly as they should be. John Carter (talk) 01:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see why, try pressing "random article" 100 times, count the number of articles that don't seem to belong on Wikipedia due to being advertising or not meeting notability guidelines, then multiply that number by 21,000 and you have a rough average of the number of articles that should be deleted. -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

• strongly oppose, this is a horrid idea and meanspirited at its core. Bad articles automatically find their way into AfDs, an WP dedicated to deleting them with a daily scorecard is an idea that should be fought. Deletionists are but one part of the Wikicommunity. Boo. Chris (クリス) (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Tough love, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Librarianofages (talk • contribs)

No. Self-serving pedantry and hugely divisive. Chris (クリス) (talk) 02:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose - While I agree with Librarianofages’s goal of clearing some of the rubbish from Wikipedia, I disagree with this proposed solution. There are too many articles brought to AfD with little thought or research of the subject as it is. Combine that with too few users willing to make an informed decision about a nominated article and this proposal becomes a recipe for disaster. —Travis^talk 14:38, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
• This has to be a joke, so I will oblige: lol! --kingboyk (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Kingboyk, I think it is a joke. Ha, ha, ha... OPPOSE. Basketball110 21:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

This makes a mockery of a Wikiproject, its foul.I'd have wanted to have seen animalistic Projects I would have gone to the Wikiproject Zoo.Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs) 17:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Notability serves the purpose in a balanced way. Tyrenius (talk) 22:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

In response to the "clear up bandwidth" part, I would like to direct Librarianofages's attention to this link: Wikipedia:Don't_worry_about_performance. Bandwidth, server load, MySQL database size, etc, that's not your job. Leave that stuff to the developers. Phuzion (talk) 02:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Opposed and laughed at - This flies in the face of what Wikipedia IS, if there's something that needs to be cleaned/removed, clean/remove it using the tools you have now. You don't need a badge of justice, it'll just make the members that much more egotistical about their backwards idea of what the word improvement means. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 03:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Oppose - Is this a kind of joke? I mean, a WikiPrject is about improving and expanding articles. It is not about deleting articles. --Nadir D Steinmetz 23:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
• Not really consistent with Wikipedia's goals, is it? --Tony Sidaway 14:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

• There is a case for original writers of articles to request deletion of early versions, especially where there is only one writer and other contributions have been minor edits, which can be very helpful. Example, mine on H B Kendall where I left a note that I intended to add some photos, and then picked up and deleted that note after finding the article listed on the Did you know list. Similarly for updates of images with better quality versions of the same. I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and perhaps there is such a facility which I have yet to discover. IS there some tag to request deletion of previous versions? Robert of Ramsor (talk) 22:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiWeapons

Description

[A project to organise, categorise, and sort out all things related to weaponry]

A possible Userbox:

This User supports the WikiWeapons Project

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. User:BernhardFischbein

Comments (feel free to add some)

So sort of like, I don't know, WP:WEAPON? ;-) Kirill 19:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, why not make it a project to manage pages covering the use of firearms? You know, sort of a list of firearm-related laws?? BernhardFischbein (talk) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:GUNS? Kirill 17:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Already have guns and fire arms. Basketball110 21:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Recommend proposer kill this idea and join the task force and/or the project mentioned above by User:Kirill Lokshin--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 18:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Portal for techniques in the physical sciences

see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council/Directory#list_of_materials_analysis_methods

Interested wikipedians

1. Jcwf (talk) 19:56, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
2. --Amaltheus (talk) 02:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC) But what is a portal? Can we call it Portal for characterization techniques in the physical sciences?
3. Srnec (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2008 (UTC) — willing to help organisationally and Jcwf's rationale makes sense

Comments

Oppose This place is for WikiProject, not portals. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I don't know that this matters. There is no obligation to bring Projects and certainly not Task Forces here to begin with, if someone wants visibility for a proposed Portal here, that's fine and may help keep it from becoming just another unmaintained portal. Besides, to disallow it would be overly bureaucratic and Portals don't have a formal place for proposal. I take no position on the Portal itself being created, but the proposal is welcome here.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You can do that at Village Pump OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 20:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Transylvania

Description

A collaboration among Wikipedia editors that helps Transylvania related articles, some of which need major work. The ultimate goal, of course, having articles at a good enough state to the point of being featured.

Interested Wikipedians

1. Basketball110 (talk · contribs)
2. John Carter (talk) 16:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
3. Doug (talk · contribs) - assuming it's a task force and not an independent project

Comments

• You've actually listed this under Taskforces, which would probably make more sense. I suggest a Task Force of WP:WikiProject Romania. By the way, there is a Portal:Transylvania at which I could really use your help - I'm currently the only editor there and don't really know the topic. And WP:WikiProject European history has made the article Transylvania its Collaboration of the Month, if your interests are primarily historical, consider joining that WikiProject, I'd love to discuss the potential for a Romanian History or Eastern European History Task Force at WT:WikiProject European history#Strategy.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 19:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

• Alternately, if you're thinking only about the historical state, it might work as a joint task force with Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries. It would certainly help the portal if it could have separate assessments one way or another, though. John Carter (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

• Should be joint task force of WikiProject Romania and WikiProject European history (and Former Countries if desired), although there was a period when Transylvania was an independent principality, it is primarily an historical region or of Romania and a former dependent pricipality/county of Hungary.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 18:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

• Agreed above. Seems fine with me. Basketballone10 23:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

• WikiProject Romania is pretty inactive and may need to be wrapped up into a task force itself before we do this. Alternatively, this might give it the impetus it needs to get moving if it had an active task force.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 16:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Social Network and Forums on Wikipedia

I am proposing that we create a designated Social Forum on Wikipedia. I would like consent, comments, and suggestions, though, before I continue with this new idea. I completely realize that this is not the main purpose of Wikipedia, and am perfectly content if this idea is completely rejected.

However, if you have any feed back, please do not hesitate to comment on my talk page.

--**macph***-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by **macph*** (talk • contribs) 22:44, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I completely disagree with this concept. Wikipedia is for editing, and the social aspect of it... should be limited to user talk pages and that's all. If people want to socialize a lot more, they need to use an actual message board or a chat room. A social forum would just distract from the actual purpose of Wikipedia: building and editing an encyclopedia. Many people would be coming here to just chat, and not help with the encyclopedia, which isn't acceptable in my view. RobJ1981 (talk) 16:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Police Department

Description

The Wikipedia: Police Department will monitor wikipedia for vandalism, simular to the counter-vandalism unit but will perform different tasks and follow strict rules which will hopefully lower the amount of vandalism. The police department will work closely with the counter-vandalism unit and share information to each member's either editors or Adminstrators. They will obey all rules of wikipedia even if the rules get's changed, if user's try and make their talkpages into a forum the Police department will intervene if it continues then the member's will report it as a violation of the Wikipedia Policy. Wikipedia is here to create an encyclopedia, as such the Police Department will make sure that the policy is respected, and that user's shouldn't make it into a forum website. →Dust Rider→ 21:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible userbox for the Department.

This user is a member of Wikipedia: Police Department.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. [your name here]

Comments

• I'd need to have some idea what the strict rules this group is supposed to be following are, and exactly how they would be different from the counter-vandalism unit. Nothing against the idea, but I think most people would want to see exactly how it's proposed they get carried out. John Carter (talk) 21:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The rules will be created by member's of the Department, mainly through the tasks simular the counter-vandalism unit, but it'll be based on the rules of Wikipedia and there five piller's, they'll patroll new creation logs of pages, and monitor different articles for vandalism. I'm still thinking of more idea's for the Department, but the Department i hope will be more active, also they'll watch articles talkpages and user's talkpages to see if they're not trying to make wikipedia into a forum website which some user's have been trying. →Dust Rider→ 22:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• Just seems to be an duplication of existing functions - moreover, the name is problematically because a) many of our contributors come from regions where "police" has various negative connotations (and indeed, it seems that one of the proposed official functions of this group would be watch users...) and b) it suggests that they have some official function. --Fredrick day (talk) 22:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Taskforce for Bemani

Description

To create, edit and improve articles on Konami's music games, such as Dance Dance Revolution, Drummania, and GuitarFreaks. The project also serves to improve existing articles on Bemani musicians such as Asaki and BeForU and any music related to Konami's music games. The project will be under Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games.

Fireblaster lyz (talk) 19:29, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

BemaniThis user is part of the Bemani Taskforce.

Interested Wikipedians (please add your name)

1. fireblaster_lyz
2. AeronPrometheus
3. Phuzion
4. Coredesat
5. dj ralph

Comments

I deCAPitated the task force name. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 05:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

As a staff member of a few websites whose topics concern Bemani, I would very much like to see Wikipedia's coverage of Bemani topics improved, and will do what I can to help. As I am a sysop on Bemanistyle's wiki, I will put a notice on the front page linking to this taskforce to rally support for the cause. Phuzion (talk) 20:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for the assistance rendered. Now, I will most likely wait and once enough attention has garnered, we will create a page and discuss on what we will do next. Do talk to me on the talk page. CAN SOMEONE CREATE A BETTER BANNER FOR ME? Thanks. Having a plain BEMANI isn't going to help, plus non-free images can't be used. xD Fireblaster lyz (talk) 20:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I have a suggestion, make this the "Konami music video game Taskforce" instead. There are a lot of music-based games released by Konami that are not a part of Bemani (Karaoke Revolution, Dance! Dance! Dance!, Toy's March, Dance 86.4, etc...) and they would be good to include in our efforts.

g.m.d.This user is part of the Konami music video game Taskforce.

g.m.d. stands for Konami's Game Music Department, what was later relabeled Bemani. In this case I use it to signify all Konami music games. Also I see no reason why either box MUST have an image, it looks tasteful this way. Thoughts? --AeronPrometheus (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems great! However, my recommandations are to focus on the current Bemani's lineup of games before the older ones come in. We will most likely wait for another week before I am willing to take any action. Thanks. Fireblaster lyz (talk) 20:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Karaoke Revolution is a currently running series of games, the entire timeline of Konami games is dotted with music-based ones that don't fall under Bemani. I agree that Bemani should be our parent concern but there no reason why we'd have to wait to start on the others as well. I'm already doing major additions and overhauls to the DDR and Beatmania articles as we speak, so I guess I'll see you in a week. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 01:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:CVG should be notified of this discussion, since this is being proposed as a task force of that project. I'll notify them. --Coredesat 01:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually brought the idea up a week or so ago to the video game project, before Fireblaster, didn't get much any response. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 01:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, perhaps now that there's a discussion on the topic, it might get a little more attention. --Coredesat 02:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm an editor from WP:WikiProject Video games. Some questions for you guys are below. The purpose of these questions is to give this task force some direction, not to criticise it.

• What will this task force do beyond what a talk page like Talk:List of Bemani series could do?
• Are you going to have a common opinion on 'controversial' issues relating to these articles. For example, as a WP:VG/A assessor, I've noticed that the question whether track lists belong on articles themselves, separate lists, or nowhere at all, is subject to some controversy.
• What are you going to do to make sure this task force isn't a 'one night stand'? WP:VG has many task forces, none of which are very active.

User:Krator (t c) 11:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

• What will this task force do beyond what a talk page like Talk:List of Bemani series could do?

Like what I have stated, though the main objective is to commit members to push up the quality of BEMANI pages, the project also serves to improve existing articles on Bemani musicians such as Asaki and BeForU and any music related to Konami's music games. However, this information is very vague as no action has been done or taken place at this moment.

• Are you going to have a common opinion on 'controversial' issues relating to these articles. For example, as a WP:VG/A assessor, I've noticed that the question whether track lists belong on articles themselves, separate lists, or nowhere at all, is subject to some controversy.

I require some feedback from members in the group on how this should be resolved. Once confirmed, articles must follow the guidelines set by the task force.

• What are you going to do to make sure this task force isn't a 'one night stand'? WP:VG has many task forces, none of which are very active.

I have been to the Final Fantasy Wikiproject and I seen a nominal rollcall on a monthly basics. To ensure the task force is successful, at least one edit of any article related to Konami's gmd must be done in a week. Again, I prefer to hear on members' opinion on how can the task force remain active.

Fireblaster lyz (talk) 17:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going to continue to improve and add to the articles as I have been regardless of whether or not I have a button on my user page. The advantages to having an established task force would be to garner support and raise interest in aiding the cause. As we now have five signed members interested in helping perhaps later on there will be more that makes it less of a cliff scaling for those of us already in the trenches. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

FYI: "Once confirmed, articles must follow the guidelines set by the task force." and " at least one edit of any article related to Konami's gmd must be done in a week." are bad ideas. The reason for this is that WikiProjects and task forces are about collaboration and discussion, and are not some kind of elite club that sets the standards. There's no real 'power' or 'group' in a task force - even a member's list could be controversial. Projects have been deleted in the past for being too "closed". The same logic applies to the notion of "applications" as written on WT:VG. You can encourage and recommend, but the "must" that's in the statements quoted above is not something that's done on Wikipedia. User:Krator (t c) 16:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Caribbean Medical Schools

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Medical schools located in the Caribbean islands which cater primarily to American students seeking medical education.

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1. bstone Bstone (talk) 21:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
2. PaddyM (talk) 04:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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Yellowstone National Park

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Articles related to Yellowstone National Park, including guysers, basins, water bodies, animal species, etc.

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1. Juliancolton (Talk) 19:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

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Former German Areas

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Articles related to Former German areas, ancerstrial and territorial. These include Prussia, Danzig, Volga River, Saarland, and other German areas that were taken from Germany any time after 1900. The purpose is to organize it so these areas can be found quickly for research and so awareness of the German Return to its land can be raised.

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1. [Theerasofwar]

Comments —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theerasofwar (talk • contribs) 11:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Raymond E. Feist Series

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This would be a project specifically designated to books, places, items and characters that are connected to Raymond E. Feist’s novels such as: Midkemia, Kelewan Raymond E. Feist.. Feel free to ask any questions below or on my talk page – Thanks

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1. Fattyjwoods ^{(Push my button)} 06:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
2. - LA @ 08:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
3. Salavat (talk) 00:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
4. 24.72.109.227 (talk) 03:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
5. hmoul - I think I've read everything he's written multiple times. —Preceding comment was added at 19:31, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

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just wondering - whether the scope should be as a task force or a wiki-project because I don't know what parent project it should go under. Fattyjwoods ^{(Push my button)} 04:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The page is up and ready - Im just making some refining on it. Check out WP:RAY thanks Fattyjwoods ^{(Push my button)} 23:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Connections to real-world objects and locations

There are a lot of ways people are making connections between Wikipedia and objects and locations in the real world. See WikiMapia and Placeopedia, for instance. One neat project is http://semapedia.org (scroll down to "latest tag sightings", and also see the wikiproject at WP:Semapedia), which loads software into cellphones that allows you to take a picture of a 2-D barcode, translate to a wikipedia url, and then read a mobile-appropriate version of the wikipedia page on your cellphone or PDA. But that's just one way to do it, and we don't need to stop at tagging historic or interesting locations. We might have a database of UPC codes, for instance, that matches consumer goods with relevant Wikipedia pages. RFID could play the same role, now that the technology is cheap and common...smart cards containing RFID chips are very common outside the U.S., and the chips are common for inventory tagging, electronic toll collection, and many other uses in the U.S.). An extensive bibliography of academic papers on projects connecting the real world to the web (not specifically Wikipedia) is http://www.purselipsquarejaw.org/2006/03/internet-of-things-working.php (not updated in the last two years). It seems to me this has potential as a meta-project...that is, it might give people a new way of looking at previous work they've done on Wikipedia, new ways to point others to the material they're proud of, and new reasons to want to polish it up. Any interest in this? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

The Amazing Race

Description Extremely popular reality show. If Big Brother has a WikiProject, then this needs at least a task force. Interested wikipedians (please add your name):

1. ♥Shapiros10WuzHere♥