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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

4 Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4 D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Romania

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And all I got was a ^^^

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Thanks, Gerda!

El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have

Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's corner

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for tagging me, El_C!

Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it!

It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him.

PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda's February corner

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day!

El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems.

Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guess what, ~~BWV 1 and~~ BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An edit request by Narky Blert

I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)

To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:

at the top, and

[[Category:Wikipedia alternative accounts]]

at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?

As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - [3], which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo!

El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prayer for Ukraine

I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - "Our" next psalm is Psalm 92, last week's, yesterday we had Psalm 91 but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No NoPixel jokes, please! But yes latest music.) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Nachman? El_C 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint: He emphasized [the] importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the Hasidic Movement, now known as the Breslov (Hasidic group). Their Rosh Hashana kibbutz (annual pilgrimage to Uman, Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. El_C 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day!

El_C 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Wrote the translation of Anna Korsun to German, and began Zofia Kilanowicz, for the occasion. Sang an extra song for peace in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March songs

I listened to the charity concert mentioned here (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think you could provide Psalm 92 (and then 14)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. It's been a while since my last concert.

Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To Prayer for Ukraine? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? [4] - composer on the Main page now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy BachDay!

Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship from the outside, but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! El_C 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). El_C 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, exquisite voice today, heard on 11 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(unless you already do) please help watching the TFA Operation Mincemeat because the author is not active --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please do me a favour regarding Psalm 14: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What, never! El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I did the thing. El_C 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April corner

April songs

First psalm in April: Psalm 17, - please update when you can.

O dear, I never signed ... - (I asked one admin before (Graham87):) Could you please move Boris Lyatoshinsky to Borys Lyatoshynsky, as the article says, and I find in international concert announcements? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done and

Done. I punctuate! El_C 15:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This hymn - Das eine Brot wächst auf vielen Halmen - is based on "a melody from Israel" - do you know more? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, not familiar. At least I don't think. Possibly I've sang it during my time in choir...? El_C 08:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

never mind - memories: two people on DYK, both connected to Oper Frankfurt, and don't miss yesterday's video of Pink Floyd given to me! - no idea where the white line below the header comes from which is not there in preview --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you have time, Psalm 26 please. (I hate the blank line under the header ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have time (and time has me). El_C 11:31, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, next Psalm 62 - Wikipedia:Main Page history/2022 April 13: the TFA is hard to overlook, but there are also peace prayers, a soprano and a theatre manager, - if you don't find them try here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, 26→62? Exclaim thyself! El_C 09:27, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

coincidence. 26 was at our church, 62 in the Tenebrae readings for last Saturday, - not working today, still Easter, biking and opera, haven't seen pics yet, but it was just beautiful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Easter(n)! El_C 20:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

it was, thank you, now dance and singing, peace doves and icecream --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very cool. Definitely deserving of Iced Cream. El_C 13:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

another Ukraine day today: Maks Levin DYK, expanding Kyiv Symphony Orchestra (have tickets), and creating Anthony Robin Schneider, the bass who could be heard opening the singing in Beethoven's Ninth twice on 10 March 2022, live in Frankfurt, Germany, and recorded in Auckland, New Zealand, singing "Freiheit!" (freedom) instead of "Freude" (joy), in a tradition started after the Fall of the Wall. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dove sono (Where are those happy moments ...?) - concert with Kyiv orchestra and Aleksey Semenenko (quite a story!) tonight, Symphony with war and peace in the subtitle --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So many concerts! You're really making up for lost tyme. I hope all the members of the Kyiv Orchestra are alive and well. El_C 13:25, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... look and see and listen: Kyiv Symphony Orchestra, Luigi Gaggero & Diana Tishchenko (violin) / Kulturpalast Dresden (25 April 2022 on YouTube (that's 25 April in Dresden, a different violinist, but the same program) - ours pictured here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic!

El_C 21:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

{{YouTube|I learn spamthing new!}} El_C 21:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2023 AWOL

Back soon'ish. El_C 13:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

February songs

February songs

my daily stories

lovely! - yesterday's cantata, 300 years later - Psalm 72 to 74 now waiting for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

... and Psalm 77 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:02, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

... and today the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think... peace through violence! But that's interesting, I was unaware. Going back further, famously, Gogol wanted to write in Ukrainian, but wrote in Russian, instead (because the odds of otherwise making it as an novelist in Russia were slim to none). Yours, El_C 02:10, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thinking about that - today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! Ah, to be young again. And also a robot. El_C 12:49, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Topic ban

Hello. I saw a notification that my name was mentioned in a discussion at Talk:1990_Temple_Mount_riots#Requested_move_9_February_2023, so I added my opinion there. One editor then asked if my topic-ban was lifted. Which is a good question. This was a good few years ago, have no idea how many, but I think this topic-ban should have expired by now. Please clarify, and if necessary, please review the topic-ban. Debresser (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying there. Per the official notification which you posted on my talkpage a little over two years ago, I would like to take the liberty to ask you to review the sanction you imposed on me. I would propose to decide that the period of time that has passed since is enough to justify allowing me a probation period of a month, in which I would be allowed to make edits in the WP:ARBPIA area on the condition that I would abide by a 1RR rule and no heated conflicts during that time. Violation of either of these two restrictions would result in immediate rescinding of my edit privileges in the WP:ARBPIA area (apart from any other sanctions that may be appropriate), while abiding by them might, after additional evaluation, result in rescinding all restrictions in this area. Debresser (talk) 14:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Debresser. But I'm afraid I'm not available to assist you with this matter. Feel free to integrate any proposal or conditions to an appeal, in case you choose to do so, though. El_C 17:08, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A shame you're not available. Thanks for your reply. Debresser (talk) 19:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 update: Parties added, evidence phase extended

Hello El C,

Three parties have been added to the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 arbitration case. The evidence phase has been extended and will close on February 21, 2023.

Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Armenia-Azerbaijan 3/Evidence. Please add your evidence by February 21, 2023, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Armenia-Azerbaijan 3/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back!

I think? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:08, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Miss you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Miss you too, bro.

El_C 02:48, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration case notification

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Holocaust in Poland and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, GeneralNotability (talk) 20:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciated your comment a great deal. Thank you. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 23:46, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Goldsztajn. I'm glad it struck a chord with you. All the best, El_C 23:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you were too hard on yourself. It's mire and muck in that area, and you did your best to wade through it. (And this is why I avoid AE.) -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Jehochman ^Talk 15:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gabby Petito page protection

It seems like the protection on Killing of Gabby Petito could be reviewed. The main editors who had been causing problems have all been blocked as socks or for persistent disruption elsewhere. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 14:33, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Protection downgraded. El_C 14:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

Precious
Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Gardiner (Chicago politician)

Hello. Back in 2021 you protected Jim Gardiner. I don't believe it to be necessary anymore. The article has only been edited by me in the past 2 years and the subject is relatively low profile. I already posted a request to unprotect at WP:Requests for page protection (I didn't realize I was supposed to contact you first; sorry!). Thanks, Iamreallygoodatcheckers^talk 04:02, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like protection was downgraded. Will update the log. El_C 14:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CozyandDozy

Hi @El C. Would you mind looking at this decision please: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive277#CozyandDozy. The editor involved has recommenced editing. The notice says "If they return to editing, broad AP2 and BLP restrictions should be immediately imposed, referencing this report". The editor has been making extensive , and in my opinion, controversial edits at Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal, which I have to some extent challenged. I have also started talk page discussions with which the editor has so far not engaged. Burrobert (talk) 04:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Burrobert, I'm not around enough right now to investigate this, nor do I have a firm recollection of that case from 2 years ago. You could start a new WP:AE complaint, though, if you wish.

In hindsight, imposing indef TBAN(s) at that time probably would have been better, leaving the burden of returning to the topic area on them (i.e. via an appeal) at any future time. Oh well.

So, if the same pattern of problematic edits could be demonstrated, then those aforementioned sanctions are likely to be due. And if they are due, make sure to stress that they need to be of an indef duration, not timed — because obviously the same issue might occur where they would disappear for years only to then return to the topic area(s) in question. Thanks and good luck. El_C 14:14, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Right-ho thanks. Burrobert (talk) 01:38, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shenyang J-8

Hi El C, for nearly a year, the Shenyang J-8 has been subjected to disruptive editing by the (static) Special:Contributions/2001:44B8:111F:8A00::/64 range, and at least two registered editors. The edits have removed the phrase "and massacre" from the link in the article to the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre. They appear to be focusing on the J-8 article, as the main article has been indefinitely semi-protected (by you) since Oct 2021. Since the beginning of 2023, the number of edits per month has increased, and especially in the past week. I assume that if they had any actual interest in discussing the issue, they'd go to the main article's talk page. Is all this enough to warrant some semi-protection for the article? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 19:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey BilCat. No, pages are not ordinarily protected over one user. Rather, a block is imposed. Since they were blocked for 24 hours 2 days ago, I've blocked them for a week this time. Best, El_C 21:38, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thanks! BilCat (talk) 21:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A change of pace

"Sunflower Award"

Your work as an admin is not being graded,
But it certainly is much appreciated,
To know that you see with vision that's clear,
A bright light of integrity we tend to hold dear!

Thank you for all you do! You don't get enough of these.

^{Atsme 💬 📧 23:18, 2 March 2023 (UTC)}[reply]

Thanks for the rhymes, Atsme! I'm humbled, truly.

El_C 10:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TrangaBellam

As I understand it, I am only allowed one statement in the request itself and cannot add a new statement? In view of this, can I post my response to Gitz's accusations on a separate page and link to the response in my request, or will this be considered an attempt to circumvent the limit? Marcelus (talk) 11:11, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can add replies to the original opening (immediately following it) but it needs to adhere to the total word/diff limits unless an extension is granted. I view collapsing those excesses or moving them to subpages as circumventing the rules, but YMMV. El_C 11:43, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, who can grant me the extension? Marcelus (talk) 11:47, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sure np. Any admin can grant one. El_C 11:50, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, for all the mess I'm making in WP:AE, it's my first time, I hope it's all good now. Admin User:ScottishFinnishRadish said he don't want to get involved, so I will just wait for another admin to get involved in the request. Marcelus (talk) 12:20, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I said I'm already WP:INVOLVED in such a way that I'm not going to take part in any AE request dealing with TrangaBellam, as we've had significant interactions in the past. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:27, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spring is in the air

Glad to see you back, ol' chap. I can feel that spring is creeping in because, despite all of the snow this year falling within the past week and this upcoming weekend, I have new baby rabbits! Fresh from the oven, and in eight weeks ready to back in a different oven. That means I'm one step close to shit shoveling season, when I have to move all of my compost up to my garden beds.

Recently started the Three Body Problem series. Finished the first book, which was pretty short, and in the middle of the second now. It's pretty interesting, and is getting an adaptation on Netflix, and there's apparently already an adaptation out in China. Despite being a Chinese novel, it takes a pretty dim view on the cultural revolution and some of the aspects of modern China, so I'd be interested to see what, if anything, changed for the Chinese television adaptation.

Hope all is well, and again, glad to see you back. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks bro! Am I back, though, really? ;) Yeah, it's been a weird winter, though maybe not Winter of 1977 / 1978 weird. Cool, pet bunnies, but no stews allowed! Believe it or not, I'm still Green Rider'ing along. Been very busy, but finally had some time (doesn't help that the latest books are getting longer and longer). Finished Mirror Sight 2 weeks ago (best one in the series so far, by far), and now am nearly done with Firebrand (all +800 pages). After that, Winterlight (no article but ++ topical), which I think is the last one. Yours, El_C 12:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting ready for about a foot of snow tonight, but compared to some past years, that's nothing. I remember a winter about 15 years ago where we just got hammered every few days with another 8-16 inches of snow, and ended up with about three feet of snow cover everywhere. At the time I was working in a large city as a cable guy, and holy shit was it horrible. A large portion of the city had the utility poles in backyard easements so I had to hump my ladder through hip deep snow to get any work done.

Meanwhile, this year, I only got to go ice fishing once because the weather has been so mild. Of course the one day I got to go out it was −21 °F (−29 °C), which made for a miserable day of catching very few fish. Luckily, we had whiskey, which helped the situation. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Got Winterlight today! (It has a neat cover!) El_C 08:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of neat covers, my wife got me the Fear Inoculum vinyl box set for valentines day. Sounds great, and the mix seems completely different than the digital version. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Willow is not in the air

It got cancelled, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. It certainly wasn't good, but it hit the nostalgia buttons. It was more enjoyable than both the rings of dour and the incest hour of power. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:15, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. Hmm. Yeah, it got hammy fast, but same here, I too was riding the nostalgia wave. Still, some major cringe moments, but for sure, nothing like the Rings of Bezos, which was the epitome of insufferable. But I liked Incest Dragons, much more than Willow. That pink alien pic is very cute btw. El_C 12:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Three Body Update

It occurred to me that I hadn't provided an update. I read the three main books, but not the fourth book by a different author that is generally considered to be bad fan fiction. The series was a pretty great price of speculative fiction with a different solution to the Fermi paradox than Spin. It got a little up it's own ass sometimes during explanations of science and philosophy, but overall it was pretty great. I don't want to go into detail because I strongly suggest you give it a read. It's been pretty widely translated as well.

I've moved into the Mistborn series, which is exactly what I expected from Sanderson. Not as good as The Stormlight Archive books, but decent enough.

Hope that spring is treating you well and life is good. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Sorry for belated, am away for a little while, but briefly: that's interesting (noted for further). I was actually thinking of getting Echopraxia (book 2 in the Firefall series, but works as a stand alone), which seems to largely speak to/on that. As for me, book 7 (Winterlight, 2021) now done, with the next one (the final in the series) expected to be finished end of 2023.

Right now, I'm halfway through The Pariah, book 1 in Anthony Ryan's The Covenant of Steel series. It's alright, I guess, he's a talented writer and it has potential, but hopefully it picks up. Also, up until now, there's a seeming total absence of magic, etc., though religious motives abound. Which is fine, I suppose, but apropos Sanderson's Laws of Magic, I'm honestly looking for an extra oomph in my 'fantasy' (something that fundamentally alters what are otherwise ancient or medieval societies). TTYS. El_C 14:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration sanctions

Hello, El C,

I think this is the first time I've come to you for advice and counsel. But I think you have extensive experience with arbitration sanctions and I really have little to none. We had a clusterf*ck tonight, a relatively new editor, Skovl, created a spin-off article for the Russian-Ukrainian war and, what was worse, they changed dozens and dozens of existing redirects for the original Ukrainian War articles to point to their new article they created just today. It was tagged for deletion and the reason (ContentFork, duplicate article) seemed valid so I deleted their article. Unfortunately, at the same time, I deleted probably 40 redirects. I needed to restore them each individually and revert the redirect target change that Skovl had made. This took a lot of time and I was admittedly livid and left a, for me, rather heated warning on their User talk page. It was only later that I realized that there are sanctions, Wikipedia:General sanctions/Russo-Ukrainian War, that not only prevent this editor from creating new articles on this subject but from editing in this area. I alerted them to this information but since most of their editing has involved the war, I'm not sure that they will go cold-turkey and stop editing articles and redirects in this subject area.

So, I'm not sure what to do at this point. I used to use Twinkle to post Arbitration sanctions notices but since ArbCom changed their system to contentious topics, Twinkle doesn't have the ability to post these standard ArbCom warning notifications. So, I don't know if my messages to them are sufficient warnings or maybe their other edits should be reverted. So, I'd appreciate it if you could look over their brief editing history along with the messages I left at User talk:Skovl and see if any further steps need to be taken. Thanks, in advance, for any advice you can offer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:02, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you have any talk page stalkers who are well-versed in ArbCom sanctions or helping out at AE and would like to contribute to this discussion, I'd like to hear your thoughts as well. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:03, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Liz. Of course happy to help. Though a few days ago, I returned from being away for a few months, so I'm not fully up to date yet with the WP:ACDS → WP:CTOP transition. But having the longstanding, broader ARBCOM-authorized sanction regime that covers this topic area, WP:ARBEE, overlap with this newer and narrower community-authorized one, WP:GS/RUSUKR, can be tricky. I previously argued RUSKR should just be absorbed into ARBEE, so that everything could be consolidated @WP:AEL#Eastern Europe — but no dice. Oh well. Anyway, I like how ToBeFree did it here (which also added WP:ARBPIA to the alert for good measure). Keep in mind, the sanction regime systems continue to be rather clunky, even after the DS → CT transition, because these evolved over a prolonged period of time, containing multiple layers. Complexity that often leads to confusion among both editors and admins.

Consider for example how when writing this I was gonna tell you in passing that one of the reasons ARBEE is so broad, is because it absorbed prior related cases, like WP:BALKANS, a shortcut that currently leads back to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe (WP:ARBEE). However, I originally typed it in lower case, wp:balkans, a shortcut that currently leads to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia (WP:ARBMAC), which in turn, if you click onto you'll see has two shortcuts at the top of its page — the main one, WP:ARBMAC, but also upper case WP:BALKANS, which as you recall leads us back to... ARBEE. I discovered this odd loop just in the course of writing this! BTW there's still a section available at the log for ARBMAC @WP:AEL#Macedonia (0 entries this year, but last year there were 8, six of which mine, and the other two by Deepfriedokra). And I didn't even mention WP:APL (nor will I)! Sorry, I ramble, but this is just to illustrate how rife the inconsistencies are which makes this such a challenging area of the project to navigate.

Anyway, as for this case, your warning seems serviceable enough, except for the error in the header that currently reads #Arbitration Committee General Sanctions — as mentioned, these are in fact community-authorized sanctions that overlaps and supplement the broader ARBEE, but also operate independently. It used to be that one couldn't use WP:AE for these community sanctions, but as of recently, that has been allowed (so no problem with mentioning that). In any case, if they still continue to violate the the WP:500-30 tenure after your warning, the next step would be to block, which would be logged @#Individual_sanctions. More generally, a list of all the currently active community-authorized sanction regimes is @WP:GS#Decisions. The procedure for each may vary somewhat, with these being outlined at the individual page level (unlike RUSKR, most will have an alert template, so you don't have to write it out as you did in this instance). Unlike these, the procedure for ARBCOM-authorized sanction regimes is (or at least in theory should be) streamlined throughout. I often rely on the T:DSA shortcut as a resouce. It's specifically a redirect to the alerts, but if you scroll to the bottom you'll see @Template:Contentious topics/list/single notice transcluded, which covers most of the relevant documentation for the ARBCOM stuff. HTH and please don't hesitate to follow up with any further questions. Best regards, El_C 08:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lord. I've gone cross-eyed. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, El C and Deepfriedokra, at the risk of flooding Skovl with a lot of redundant information, I've added User:ToBeFree/RUSUKR_introduction to their talk page. I think most of it is already covered by Liz's message, so perhaps it was unnecessary of me to do so.

Anyway, if they continue editing in this area, blocking without further warning is definitely an option. Anyone who is unwilling, hesitant or technically unable to perform that block would be welcome to notify me on my talk page. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

March stories

March songs

my story today

On IWD, I remember a 2016 DYK: Hana Blažíková, a Czech who sang German music in Japan. Girls and women sang how Bach arranged Pergolesi's Stabat Mater to a new text paraphrasing Psalm 51, last Sunday. (Gentle reminder that between Psalm 72 and 78, there are several missing Hebrew.) - I loved improving Mary Bauermeister - on the Main page until yesterday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

today we remember the 150th birthday of Max Reger, who saw the horrors of a world war right when it began in 1914, while others were still in high patriotic moods --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sharing impressions from vacation on Madeira 20-30 March, pics now at 24 Mar from the peaks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, new cats! Hope it was a good vacation; pics look great!

El_C 04:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Question for you

Why did you extended protect United States? 26zhangi (talk) 22:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because there was a request for it to be protected and that was the protection level I deemed suitable. El_C 23:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why wasn’t semi enough? Was there vandalism from autoconfirmed accounts? 26zhangi (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I both upgraded and downgraded its protection a few times in years past, as well. I copied the protection log for you below, in case you're interested:

Log

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

18:38, 3 October 2022 El C talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require extended confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (upgrade protection (again)) (hist | change)
22:14, 26 September 2022 Sdrqaz talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Procedural reinstatement of prior semi-protection following full protection's expiry) (hist | change) (thank)
15:50, 26 September 2022 SarekOfVulcan talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 18:50, 26 September 2022) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) Tag: Twinkle (thank)
17:49, 8 September 2022 El C talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Restoring previous indef semi (following full protection)) (hist | change)
12:06, 5 September 2022 Beeblebrox talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 12:06, 7 September 2022) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) Tag: Twinkle (thank)
09:16, 14 October 2019 El C talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (reduce protection: testing the waters) (hist | change)
01:14, 9 August 2019 El C talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require extended confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Up protection) (hist | change)
04:03, 25 February 2019 Swarm talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (on second thought, restore semi) (hist | change) (thank)
03:58, 25 February 2019 Swarm talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 03:58, 4 March 2019) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) (thank)
12:39, 28 January 2019 Favonian talk contribs block protected United States [Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (indefinite) (reinstate semi after temp. full -- requested at WP:RFPP) (hist | change) (thank)
02:41, 24 January 2019 Oshwah talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States [Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 02:41, 26 January 2019) [Move=Require administrator access] (expires 02:41, 26 January 2019) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) (thank)
18:45, 21 May 2015 CambridgeBayWeather talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite)‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Persistent disruptive editing: Misread the thing) (hist | change) (thank)
23:24, 13 May 2015 Nakon talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=sysop] (expires 03:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC))‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) (thank)
02:31, 10 December 2013 Mark Arsten talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite)‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Persistent vandalism) (hist | change) (thank)
20:00, 2 December 2013 Thingg talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=sysop] (expires 00:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC))‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Edit warring / Content dispute) (hist | change) (thank)
21:28, 5 November 2013 Vsmith talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite)‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Persistent vandalism) (hist | change) (thank)
17:54, 2 November 2013 Mark Arsten talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=sysop] (expires 21:54, 5 November 2013 (UTC))‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute) (hist | change) (thank)
17:11, 30 October 2013 Bearian talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎‎[edit=templateeditor] (expires 09:11, 31 October 2013 (UTC))‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Edit warring / content dispute: WP:RFPP) (hist | change) (thank)
00:35, 25 June 2010 NativeForeigner talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite) (Move-protection, it got removed when testing out pending changes, restoring to previous state. using TW) (hist | change) (thank)
23:45, 24 June 2010 Fastily talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) (apparently pending changes is not working at the moment - feel free to revert me when it is) (hist | change) (thank)
17:07, 19 June 2010 Risker talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (Wikipedia:Pending changes trial) (hist | change) (thank)
10:29, 1 January 2010 Graham87 talk contribs block moved protection settings from MediaWiki talk:United States of America to United States (MediaWiki talk:United States of America moved to United States: revert) (thank)
11:28, 2 October 2009 The ed17 talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎[edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite) (Excessive vandalism) (hist | change) (thank)
20:13, 30 September 2009 The ed17 talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States ‎[move=sysop] (indefinite) (five months of semi, let's see if it'll be alright...) (hist | change) (thank)
23:40, 9 April 2008 Golbez talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (please don't. it has had to be reprotected within hours every time. what you are basically saying is "have all the vandals left"? [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
23:14, 9 April 2008 Wassupwestcoast talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (Five months have gone by. Let's see if the hordes have left. [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
20:05, 18 November 2007 Golbez talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (fascinating experiment [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
15:42, 18 November 2007 Mattflaschen talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (has been protected for two+ months [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
20:29, 11 September 2007 Tariqabjotu talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (full protection unnecessary; Abtract blocked [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:27, 11 September 2007 Acalamari talk contribs block changed protection settings for United States (Edit war [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
21:49, 8 May 2007 Retired username talk contribs block protected United States (should be move protected [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
22:26, 15 April 2007 Centrx talk contribs block protected United States (Target of vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist | change) (thank)
00:46, 15 April 2007 Centrx talk contribs block removed protection from United States (Try unprotection) (hist | change) (thank)
16:19, 11 December 2006 Golbez talk contribs block protected United States (let's not [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
18:32, 9 December 2006 Kungfuadam talk contribs block protected United States (let's try unprotecting... [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
13:42, 30 October 2006 Raul654 talk contribs block protected United States (Not working [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
07:15, 30 October 2006 Majorly talk contribs block protected United States (trying full unprotection per user request [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
18:11, 8 September 2006 Centrx talk contribs block protected United States (IP vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
15:33, 7 September 2006 Centrx talk contribs block protected United States (Trying unprotect [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
15:40, 8 August 2006 RenamedUser jaskldjslak904 talk contribs block protected United States (Daily vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
21:16, 3 June 2006 King of Hearts talk contribs block protected United States (has been several weeks; give it a try [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
12:58, 12 May 2006 Golbez talk contribs block protected United States (i've had enough of this [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
00:04, 9 May 2006 Pepsidrinka talk contribs block protected United States (been protected for 12+ days - unprotecting now [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
14:01, 26 April 2006 Aaron Schulz talk contribs block protected United States (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
13:12, 13 April 2006 Alhutch talk contribs block protected United States (been 5 days, give it a shot [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:03, 8 April 2006 Aaron Schulz talk contribs block protected United States (IP vandals [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
13:30, 7 April 2006 SoLando talk contribs block protected United States (It's been protected since 31 March. Semi-P should be restored if heavy vandalism resumes [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
22:17, 30 March 2006 Golbez talk contribs block protected United States (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
04:30, 17 March 2006 Retired username talk contribs block protected United States (apparently has been protected for 2+ weeks, let's try unprotect [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
10:45, 15 March 2006 Android79 talk contribs block protected United States (template indicates this is sprotected. remove protection and template if that's not the intent. [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
22:53, 2 March 2006 Splash talk contribs block protected United States (keep it brief on high-profile articles [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
10:32, 28 February 2006 Woohookitty talk contribs block protected United States (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:53, 8 February 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (Long enough [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:53, 8 February 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (Long enough [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
14:29, 8 February 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (lots of vandalism yesterday and today [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
18:46, 29 January 2006 Splash talk contribs block protected United States (that's enough for a high-profile article that's not in need of long-term protection [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:51, 25 January 2006 Howcheng talk contribs block protected United States (persistent vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
17:37, 21 January 2006 Docu talk contribs block protected United States (long edit history (move) [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
18:16, 19 January 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block removed protection from United States (Rm; testing the waters) (hist | change) (thank)
16:29, 18 January 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (We've now, once again, reached the point where this article has been vandalized 12 times today. [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist | change) (thank)
11:57, 14 January 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block removed protection from United States (Kiddies should be gone for the weekend) (hist | change) (thank)
17:53, 13 January 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (Getting hit but good today; sprot for a few hours [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:22, 12 January 2006 Splash talk contribs block removed protection from United States (been protected several days now (and no tag)) (hist | change) (thank)
14:20, 6 January 2006 Katefan0 talk contribs block protected United States (Persistent vandalism - sprot for a bit [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist | change) (thank)
16:47, 5 January 2006 El C talk contribs block removed protection from United States (coeuple of hours belatedly, sorry) (hist | change)
13:27, 5 January 2006 El C talk contribs block protected United States (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist | change)
22:34, 22 December 2005 Splash talk contribs block removed protection from United States (i don't see the support for this on Talk:, and the history doesn't support the vandalism claims) (hist | change) (thank)
18:31, 22 December 2005 Brian0918 talk contribs block protected United States (as requested, semi-protecting this, one of the most vandalized pages [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop] [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
11:03, 22 December 2005 Splash talk contribs block protected United States (the history's not that bad, and poor standards of edit don't warrant protection [move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
10:33, 22 December 2005 Brian0918 talk contribs block protected United States (semi-protecting one of the most vandalized pages [edit=autoconfirmed; move=sysop] [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]) (hist | change) (thank)
19:28, 15 December 2005 Ugen64 talk contribs block protected United States (let's avoid this problem shall we) (hist | change) (thank)
19:28, 15 December 2005 Ugen64 talk contribs block removed protection from United States (brion's fixed it) (hist | change) (thank)
19:21, 15 December 2005 Brian0918 talk contribs block protected United States (hist | change) (thank)
18:40, 14 December 2005 Brendanconway talk contribs block removed protection from United States (one main vandal is blocked) (hist | change) (thank)
18:39, 14 December 2005 Brendanconway talk contribs block removed protection from United States (one main vandal is blocked) (hist | change) (thank)
18:23, 14 December 2005 Brendanconway talk contribs block protected United States (Vandalised with male geinitalia) (hist | change) (thank)
04:30, 18 October 2005 Denelson83 talk contribs block removed protection from United States (Hopefully vandal has stopped) (hist | change) (thank)
04:23, 18 October 2005 Denelson83 talk contribs block protected United States (Protect for 15 minutes from persistent vandal) (hist | change) (thank)
16:50, 28 May 2005 Jpgordon talk contribs block removed protection from United States (No special reason for it to be protected.) (hist | change) (thank)
11:06, 27 May 2005 Ed Poor talk contribs block protected United States (to discourage graffiti) (hist | change) (thank)

El_C 23:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia-Azerbaijan 3: Proposed decision mentioning you

Hi El C, in the open Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 arbitration case, a remedy or finding of fact has been proposed which relates to you.

You are not directly affected by any proposed sanction; this is just for your information.
Your name appears on the page only because your warning of Olympian, Olympian's response to your warning, and your warning of ZaniGiovanni are mentioned in their respective "sanction history" sections.

Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, seems I can't even tell what month it is... El_C 03:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

World War II and the history of Jews in Poland: Arbitration case opened

Hello El C,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence. Please add your evidence by April 04, 2023, which is when the first evidence phase closes. Submitted evidence will be summarized by Arbitrators and Clerks at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/World War II and the history of Jews in Poland/Evidence/Summary. Owing to the summary style, editors are encouraged to submit evidence in small chunks sooner rather than more complete evidence later.

Details about the summary page, the two phases of evidence, a timeline and other answers to frequently asked questions can be found at the case's FAQ page.

For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Content Dispute on English Wikiquote, and block of user:Djm-leighpark

Hello, El_C. Sorry for this message.
I'm now a sysop on English Wikiquote. Today, User:DeirgeDel (user:Djm-leighpark) talked about some complex and messy disputes on our project that was origined both on English Wikipedia and English Wikiquote, they also tried to cite something about their block on enwp's UTRS. I tried hard to understand their dispute but it was really a long story.
Eventually, I failed. Can you tell me what lead them a block here, or do you wanna take a look for the dispute there?

FYI, q:Wikiquote:Administrators'_noticeboard#Consequences_of_failure_to_do_timely_administration and q:User talk:DeirgeDel#Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Piet Emmer

Anyway, if this is hard enough to explain or take a lot of time, I'm inclined to recuse from this dispute. -Lemonaka‎ 11:19, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember the details as this was a year ago. If you want, you could go through their talk page's history to find my block notice and piece it from that. Sorry, I'm not really interested in engaging them or their grievances on other projects. But if you think their disruption warrants them being blocked from all Wikimedia projects, you can file a request at m:Global locks. HTH. El_C 13:37, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks for the help! Layah50♪ ( 話して～! ) 06:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, Layah50, glad I could help. Cheers! El_C 07:02, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're not helping. Through flagrant abuse of your administrative powers by blocking a good contributor on the basis of allegations which you refuse to substantiate, you bring disgrace upon yourself and do great damage to Wikipedia. Shame on you. Display name 99 (talk) 19:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was random. Anyway, just noting that the above attack is unrelated to what I helped Layah50 with. Rather, this rant is about a p-block from Sept 2022, whose background can be reviewed @#Indefinite partial block from Andrew Jackson, Talk:Andrew Jackson. Display name 99, while you are free to request a 4th unblock request (noting failed unblock request 1, 2, 3), you're no longer welcome on my talk page. Please do not contact me again except for required notices. @Girth Summit: courtesy ping. El_C 20:10, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Find sources protection

Just FYI that I upped the protection level on Template:Find sources to template editor even though you explicitly put it to extended confirmed even after it was added to talk header. I don't think extended confirmed is enough for any template used over half a million times. --Trialpears (talk) 03:31, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, obviously it wouldn't be enough. But as far as I'm able to recall, I upgraded it from ECP to TPROT, but then reversed myself, downgrading it back to ECP upon seeing that the transclusion count wasn't actually at the threshold. Which evidently is not the case now for whatever reason; or something else, I dunno. But doesn't matter, either way. El_C 03:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning...

[5] Ha!Ha! Your guess was wrong. It doesn't mean lady, it means 'Penis'.. Akshaypatill (talk) 13:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

बाई! El_C 01:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of questions about paid editing

I have a few questions I would be very grateful if you could answer or give me pointers on, I won't include links or names in accordance with the outing policy. I've found a user who describes himself as a freelancer, who also has a website where he describes himself as such, marketing themselves (among other skill) as a "Wikipedia editor of over 10 years" with "high Wikipedia skills", is this considered paid editing? Are such resumé websites considered proof of paid editing? Where and how should I present this? (If I should present it at all) and thank you in advance - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 17:19, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really an expert on WP:PAID, but so long as they're not offering to sell their services for that, then it may be innocent enough. Personally, I don't need a resume, but if I did and I didn't care about my privacy, I could see myself mentioning something similar, among other skills. But it's all a bit abstract, and as they say: ___ is in the details. El_C 01:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for opinion

Hello EL C, I saw your response in admin's noticeboard for incidents, with regards to MOS: TERRORIST, I was wondering if you have time and interest to participate in this one as well. Thank you. (Sextus Caedicius (talk) 23:09, 27 March 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Sextus Caedicius, sorry, but I doubt I could spare the time for a deeper dive right now. Regards, El_C 22:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries El, I was afraid the noticeboard wouldn't attract enough attention/involvement, but it did which was great. Cheers anyway, (Sextus Caedicius (talk) 23:09, 1 April 2023 (UTC))[reply]

Vikram Sampath

Hello, Now that full protection has expired on Vikram Sampath page, indef semi-protection should be restored. Mixmon (talk) 20:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the reminder. Regards, El_C 22:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for semi protection lock

Hi El C, Can you please put a semi protection edit lock on the article 2023 Indian Premier League, Bholaa, K.G.F: Chapter 1 and K.G.F: Chapter 2. Frequent unregistered accounts destroy the content of the article and vandalize them. MNWiki845 (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MNWiki845, actually, I'd rather you make protection requests at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase. Thanks. El_C 08:59, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics:

(Intro)

Somehow I found myself here today

Awakened to these thoughts and feelings

Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming?

A strange sort of spherical sensation

With an overwhelming sense of apprehension

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

So far beyond our reach

Where consciousness coalesces

Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds

The streaming runs of thought goes

'Round and 'round and 'round

Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down

And the earth bows down in reverence

Lest it should be torn to pieces

And blown into oblivi-essence

And all who live will run and hide

And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time

Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of

One's own mind

But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge

Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind

You'll find that everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

(Verse one)

Open up

Your hearts and minds

'Cause I remember

Nothing

One day now

It all falls down

But love must keep on

Loving

So start the show

Here we go

(Chorus)

Dark to light

The day from night

A roll of a mountain

A rip in the sky

Turning the dust to flesh

And ashes to breath

A pull of a muscle

A pin in the eye

An initial spark

To get this heart of mine pumping

And another

To get these feet of mine running

But sadly they've just taken me

To a place

Where all is devoid

Of your embrace

So baby now we're falling

Baby now you're falling

Baby yeah, yeah

Baby now we're falling, baby yeah

Tripping and tumbling

Flipping and fumbling

Flowing on the rivers of sadness

That have been forever rumbling

But from dawn until now

Of all the paths that I could have gone down

Of all the valleys

That I could have been flowing through

In spite of all the chaos

And all that has come between us

How is it I still find myself

Here with you

(Outro)

So somehow we find ourselves here today

A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming

A strange sort of spherical sensation

An emptiness that thunders out

From beyond the mind's horizon

And all of us, we run and hide

Do what we've done since the dawn of time

Peering out through the beating rain

The pounding wind

Everyone is everyone

And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S ^{Dr.Viossy — El_C 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)}[reply]

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnopédie No. 1 → Arabesque No. 1 — El_C 10:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raat Ne Main Baandhi Chhe — El_C 15:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reza, Meu Bem — El_C 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because — El_C 12:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Noite Longa — El_C 18:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voce Me Apereceu — El_C 05:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lodger → It Starts When We Disappear — El_C 15:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One More Day — El_C 00:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sing Song Kitty → Bonaparte's Retreat — El_C 11:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Girls Love Kehlani → Table El_C 01:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kkwy — El_C 01:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Convoy — El_C 15:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Black Water (studio) → Live (1974) — El_C 08:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summertime → The House of the Rising Sun — El_C 13:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bossa Esfera — El_C 13:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Down Man — El_C 13:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The High Road — El_C 02:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found You — El_C 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quero ver — El_C 01:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Raag Gawati (Dhan Dhan Bhag Hamare) — El_C 17:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I Adore You — El_C 13:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Angola Anthem — El_C 18:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dopesnotfunkae — El_C 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Descarga for Tito — El_C 18:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Positive Notions — El_C 02:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One — El_C 14:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Secret Sun — El_C 21:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Back Where It All Begins — El_C 14:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Riflessività — El_C 03:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Title 1 → 2 → 3 → 4 — El_C 16:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tudo Que Você Podia Ser — El_C 13:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary Discrepancy — El_C 13:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Way Star — El_C 09:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lament — El_C 15:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely Day — El_C 14:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alter Ego — El_C 11:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

עמוד האש — El_C 13:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Won't Pray Adagio → Angel's Serenade — El_C 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Distance — El_C 18:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Toxic — El_C 12:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the Man Who Loves You → Poor Places — El_C 07:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Creation & Destruction — El_C 14:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fuck the System — El_C 22:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Esperar Pra Ver — El_C 10:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Coat Of Paint — El_C 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Ecstasy of Gold — El_C 13:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One Way — El_C 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A Little Less Conversation — El_C 15:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Power in the Darkness — El_C 18:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

תמונה → Guitar — El_C 15:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Smokestack Lightning — El_C 11:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ann River, Mn → Bibio Remix — El_C 10:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mirror Temple — El_C 01:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zoiks — El_C 15:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tuyo — El_C 14:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 (Overture) — El_C 13:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Land → A Lotus On Irish Streams — El_C 12:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Romance del Diablo — El_C 13:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Floral Fury — El_C 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Waking Up → VIP Extended Mix — El_C 10:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Solução Edit — El_C 13:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

אפילו דקה → Trem das Onze — El_C 14:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Knives Out — El_C 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Child in Time — El_C 01:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Free Bird (extended studio) — El_C 12:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody Speak → Nobody Move — El_C 11:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Be Alright (Live at One Love Manchester) — El_C 11:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Victory Theme (SHADOWFOX2 Remix) → Funk Fiction Remix — El_C 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Intimidated — El_C 15:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seoul — El_C 11:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fiona — El_C 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sun — El_C 14:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Parole parole — El_C 15:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breathe (2 AM) (Live) — El_C 13:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dodole — El_C 16:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Moment → Ammonia Clouds — El_C 11:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Enemy (guitar heavy) — El_C 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After You — El_C 16:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Estate — El_C 11:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prelude → Victory Fanfare (Evil Needle X OriJanus Remix) — El_C 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Winter Nights

Winter Nights (full album): Greensleeves → Inverno — El_C 05:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ready To Fly — El_C 13:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 05:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 20:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since I've Been Loving You — El_C 21:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lupin — El_C 02:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Une Sulased → Kiik Tahab Kindaid — El_C 18:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Star Spangled Banner — El_C 00:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderland — El_C 10:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Souffles H (Souffle Your Wig) — El_C 17:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2 Hearts Together (Absolute Contrast) — El_C 10:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Este Amor — El_C 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Samba De Luar — El_C 11:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't Hide Love — El_C 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice & Slow — El_C 12:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Living For The Night — El_C 13:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In The Morning — El_C 06:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nos Vida — El_C 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One Dream — El_C 12:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Central Boogie — El_C 22:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Mercy → Instrumental — El_C 01:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delight → Slow Down El_C 05:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Head Over Heels → Sowing the Seeds Of Love — El_C 13:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Surrender — El_C 10:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Stress →Get Down → Human Nature → Dreamy → Flowers — El_C 11:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Well-Tempered Clavier, Prelude 1 in C Major (BWV 846) — El_C 10:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21: I. Maestoso — El_C 23:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Put A Spell On You — El_C 09:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

High Tide — El_C 02:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

פרדי על הבוקר — El_C 07:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Slavery Days → I And I Survive — El_C 12:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dare — El_C 16:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiss from a Rose (studio version) → Rick explains (feat. Seal) — El_C 13:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy — El_C 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deepstar — El_C 11:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All By Myself (Glee) → w David Foster — El_C 15:29, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Infralow — El_C 13:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jericho — El_C 12:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Guess You Get What's Coming — El_C 18:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Open Up → Open Up (Reimagined) — El_C 00:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Me In Mind — El_C 11:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Moon (w John Hiatt & Herbie Hancock) — El_C 01:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

True Faith — El_C 16:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

בא אלייך בלילה El_C 14:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Theme That Got Left in the Car — El_C 10:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lotus Feet → India — El_C 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Revival — El_C 00:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfuckwitable — El_C 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Breathing — El_C 11:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prune Gang Revival Tour → Darkseid / FULL (Soundcloud) — El_C 05:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gleam → Glim → Mystic — El_C 13:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bullets — El_C 10:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Them Changes — El_C 19:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts — El_C 15:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Eyesdown → U Just R — El_C 03:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A New Life — El_C 21:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Press Garden Zone — El_C 15:34, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fish — El_C 17:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll Find My Way — El_C 07:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lean On — El_C 10:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weird Bed — El_C 03:39, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hope Springs E

Morning Dew — El_C 00:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delight Earth — El_C 10:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Funk No.1 — El_C 12:53, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children Of The World — El_C 05:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child — El_C 22:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lay Down — El_C 14:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Colorless — El_C 16:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Viva L'amore — El_C 02:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Riviera Paradise El_C 10:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plexus — El_C 13:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Virtual Insanity (Wilson remix) — El_C 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Time Paradox (Choma41 final mix) — El_C 01:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Love and Happiness — El_C 16:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

& — El_C 10:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Shake Down — El_C 10:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fingerflowing — El_C 11:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Cat Came Back — El_C 10:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the Morning of the Magicians — El_C 22:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mellow → Voyage — El_C 11:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Search for Optimism — El_C 13:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On The Move — El_C 15:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Transmissionnn → Txt (MSGS) — El_C 10:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phenomenal → To Forgive (Letting Go Is Hard) — El_C 18:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gypsy Woman — El_C 22:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Guardian Angel — El_C 13:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for the Sun → Cheers! — El_C 15:46, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

לך תזדיין (Go Fuck Yourself) — El_C 11:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Heartbreak In Paradise — El_C 12:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jessica — El_C 22:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You Enjoy Myself — El_C 12:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stash — El_C 15:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nsu Na Kwan (Water and Stone) — El_C 21:49, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Magic — El_C 12:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Twilight Voyage — El_C 18:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear And Soul — El_C 13:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Far Away → L'Uomo Invisible (The Invisible Man) — El_C 12:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf Totem — El_C 14:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jell-O — El_C 12:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Name Is James (Soundcloud) — El_C 12:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Time solo → Another Brick In The Wall solo → Comfortably Numb solo — El_C 14:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And the livin' is EZ

Comfortably Numb (Sophie Lloyd) → Shorts shorts (shorts) ←Shut up, me! — El_C 00:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First Day Of Summer — El_C 13:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Brazilian Summer — El_C 19:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Valse triste (Sad Waltz), Op. 44 — El_C 17:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No Turning Back — El_C 14:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Come Together — El_C 17:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Miles Away — El_C 23:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tuesday — El_C 14:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can't Hide Love — El_C 14:29, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noche de San Juan → Pra Joao → Yoruba → Semblanza de un Gigante — El_C 14:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Children Say → La Mer → Sound Of Blue → People Have A Right Of Pursuing Happiness — El_C 14:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ready To Freak → When Are You Gonna Tell Your Woman (About Me)? / Sign of the Times — El_C 16:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

El Mechánico — El_C 11:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anomalous Hedges — El_C 14:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Runaway (Icon West Remix) — El_C 16:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where Did The Time Go? → Time's Blur — El_C 17:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Turn On Your Love Light — El_C 19:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Going Home — El_C 01:31, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Severance (title sequence) — El_C 19:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Diz pra Mim (Tell Me) — El_C 15:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reminisce — El_C 17:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

怨恨白昼夢 — El_C 03:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Falleaves

Autumn — El_C 02:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Let's Get Blown — El_C 16:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rest → Reset — El_C 22:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trip to the Stix — El_C 16:43, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blunt — El_C 18:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It Will Work Out — El_C 10:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Festa Cante — El_C 01:56, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Fire → Into the Fire (Combat) — El_C 15:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a Feeling — El_C 16:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fallin' (Francesco Cofano Remix) — El_C 05:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's Not My Cross To Bear — El_C 16:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Man and a Woman (Extended Mix) — El_C 00:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name Your Price — El_C 19:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Water's Fine! — El_C 23:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Midnight Rider — El_C 07:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One Thing Leads to Another (Extended Version) — El_C 07:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tabula Rasa — El_C 16:42, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

paradise — El_C 15:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

History — El_C 04:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

bossa uh → i'll be okay — El_C 17:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chrono Suite — El_C 09:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Intelligent Design — El_C 03:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo — El_C 00:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Brasil — El_C 19:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Flowers — El_C 01:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Local Forecast → +tempo — El_C 00:00, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Into the Ether — El_C 07:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mirrors — El_C 06:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rise — El_C 18:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hopeless Romantic — El_C 17:46, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dream On (Morgan James) — El_C 15:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FTW — El_C 17:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dreamin — El_C 14:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pleasure — El_C 05:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Hazy Shade of Winter

Hazy Shade of Winter (Radio Edit) — El_C 22:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Hour — El_C 21:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Money, Money, Money (Joel Dickinson Remix Radio Edit) — El_C 03:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rites Of Passage — El_C 18:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pumped (Pumping the House All Night Long Extend-o-mix) — El_C 11:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I Remember — El_C 10:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Babydoll — El_C 08:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spring springs

Brucia La Terra — El_C 01:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It Was a Very Good Year — El_C 22:22, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chess — El_C 04:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CSGO Theme (Official) → (VMU Chamber Orchestra) → (Johnny Hua) — El_C 07:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Light Velocity — El_C 06:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apho (feat. Bongeziwe Mabandla) ← Variables → BC — El_C 09:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lady (Hear Me Tonight) — El_C 10:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sonic Boom — El_C 13:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ordinary Things: "The Bankrupt Business of 2022" (December 31, 2022). El_C 01:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

//bows

El_C 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

April songs

April songs

my story today

My story today is about the Alchymic Quartet, - I went away from DYK but it's the last one from last year. - The songs are about vacation, continued. - Psalm 83 waiting for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please check out RD: James Bowman (countertenor). It's not officially marked ready but has two supports. I was away so could only nominate yesterday, and today is "his" last chance, and I have rehearsal tonight ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, he made it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I loved to see Marian Anderson and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. - a few pics added, one day missing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please revert your change to RD and wait, - those that were there when you changed are all "on" for just a few hours (21:xx) - I'd wait until the first of them got 24 hours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, all six. I don't think I've ever seen that. Sounds good, I'll wait a day. Thanks for letting me know! El_C 07:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I noticed because Sergio Rendine was just added and then on the penultimate position. - How about Psalm 83. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, are we still doing that? Anyway, reports of my RD had been greatly X El_C 08:28, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Wow, that is an aggressive Psalm! El_C 08:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree! Thank you! - Talking of fire, did you see the fire salamander in my recent pics? - Next Psalm 72 whenever you feel like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for protecting Jessica Nabongo. I had been waffling over remaining an admin there because it had so few watchers and so much disruption, so being able to just go ahead and become an editor was very helpful. I've cleaned it up. In related news, while I was checking references it became clear that Woni Spotts almost certainly can be recreated. Valereee (talk) 14:44, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For sure, Val, anytime. Nice to see you.

Please feel free to let me know if any more problems surface. I actually didn't pick up on that specific rivalry (one-sided or otherwise) with Woni Spotts, it just looked like standard {{uw-npov2}} fare that has the article comment on its own editorial choices. So good looking out! Yours, El_C 18:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it looks like 2-sided. Apparently it's become a wide-sweeping war within the Black Travel Movement. Woman of "a certain age" with almost no online presence vs. young brand influencer determined to claim the crown. I'm on it, but yeah, IMO there's quite likely to be a bit of a kerfuffle when one or both women discover the recent changes. Valereee (talk) 18:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I_C. Well, if you need me for any of that, drop me a line. I'll be around'ish. El_C 18:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi protection lock

Hello @El C I am kindly requesting you to put semi protection edit lock on the page of the current Prime Minister of Nepal Pushpa Kamal Dahal because users that have created new accounts are vandalizing the page so I am kindly requesting to please add semi protection edit lock. Sulav K Shetri (talk) 15:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Sulav K Shetri:

Semi-protected for a period of 10 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. But next time, please post protection requests @Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase. I'd rather my talk page not become a spillover location for that venue. Thanks. El_C 18:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Omar al-Bashir

Hello, do you believe it's still necessary to protect this talk page? You protected it around the time he was deposed, although the article itself has been unprotected since a few months later. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 03:04, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotected. No, I just forgot about it. So thanks, good looking out. El_C 04:08, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Link Spammer

Continued after last block.--MCC214 #ex umbra in solem 15:32, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked – for a period of 2 years. I guess we double it. El_C 02:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again!

Hello, it has been almost two years since you graciously defended my edits here. Strangely enough, the same user seems to be tracking my edits; they weighed in on another user's talk page today after an edit I made was reverted (and then restored), and once again they were pretty disdainful about it. I'm not sure why they'd even know to do that other than keeping tabs on my contributions page (and so I imagine they'll be reading this soon, too), but it doesn't seem like very good behavior? Not sure if it breaks any rules but given our last interaction I thought I'd give you a heads up. Thank you! 173.175.200.238 (talk) 05:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, the 173.x IPs are strong this weekend! Erm, hi again IP. Indeed, it isn't the best behaviour, at least on the parts of @Estar8806 and Smuckola: Raladic's note that it was just not explained very well (single word "fluff" was a bit abstract) — seems reasonable enough. However... Estar8806, I'd like you to really take to heart the ethos in the essay Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus". Smuckola, in the talk page linked above, you write (in part): Also the IP editor said "clearing my talk page". You do not have a talk page whatsoever. Make an account — which makes no sense in addition to being oddly aggressive, First, the IP is not obliged to register an account on your say. And 2ndly, they do have a talk page, obviously. It's right there in their sig: 173.175.200.238 →(talk)←; not to mention that you yourself even edited it before (diff). I am formally warning you to stop WP:FOLLOWING 173.175.200.238. Thanks. El_C 07:48, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where you got the impression anyone was following the ip, it was a dispute over one edit that we all resolved civilly.

And I don't know why the ip assumed the only way we could know of them making the change is by watching their contributions. That's wholly untrue. Ever heard of RTRC?

Estar8806 (talk) 11:26, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I apologize in advance if that came off snarkier than it was meant to. Your right, I had not read the essay you had, so my intent was to follow WP:CYCLE, even if I perhaps verbalized that in an incorrect way.

And if the ip took my wording of my acceptance of the change as "disdainful", I apologize. That was not my intent. Estar8806 (talk) 12:15, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an impression, it's a fact. Smuckola—who is not you—is to stop following the IP. Whereas you are to treat each prospective revert, anywhere, according to its own merits. You can't invoke CYCLE with WP:SILENCE, nor do tools give you extra leeway (extra responsibility, if anything). Please reflect. El_C 12:36, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why you think there was SILENCE, the edit had been reverted just an hour before.

Second of all, I never said anything about my reasoning being the fact there was 'no consensus', my reasoning was that there was a previously reverted edit with something I can barely call an edit summary (though I must admit in haste I may leave a less than accurate summary, which I'm sure we are all guilty of).

So again I was just facilitating the CYCLE and I apologize if anything else was inferred. Estar8806 (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that you should not be "facilitating CYCLE" for its own end. Neither WP:BRD (CYCLE) nor WP:ONUS are mandatory (only Consensus required is and it's used seldom) — they are both recommendations. Again, you need to only be reverting edits on their merits (i.e. substantive reasoning over made-up procedural ones).

So a revert with an edit summary reading: I disagree that the award list is "fluff" due to X ≈ valid. However, a revert with an edit summary reading: get consensus in advance, or an automated revert summary [6] ≈ invalid. And you edit warring with "Edit warring" in the edit summary [7] is not great, though at least you self-reverted 10 min later.

To sum up, I hope that this isn't how you treat new or unregistered users on the regular, because if so, then we have problem. It got resolved this time, largely because the IP happens to be a veteran editor and knew their way around, but you gotta watch for WP:BITE otherwise. Thanks. El_C 21:38, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. My reasons for the reversion may not have been the best, and my edit summaries were equally poor. Perhaps I should be a little less bitey as well. Cheers. Estar8806 (talk) 22:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tamaz Somkhishvili

Thanks for protecting the page, but the paid material denigrating a persona, added from an anonymous IP address, remains on the page. What's more, on the discussion page, I have been threatened with blocking from an anonymous IP address. User talk:AlexanderVolkov123 I ask you to deal with the situation. As it stands now, the page does not conform to WP:NPOV. In the discussion, the moderators said that my version is more acceptable, but there are problems with the sources. Here is a reputable source, a big biographical article about the person in the Georgian Forbes [8] AlexanderVolkov123 (talk) 13:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey np AlexanderVolkov123. But if you do have a conflict of interest (WP:COI), whether to the extent of paid editing (WP:PAID), or in any other way whatsoever — you must disclose that in order to remain an editor in good standing on the English language Wikipedia. I'll post the standard disclosure ({{uw-coi}}) on your talk page, so please respond to it when convenient. If you do not have a conflict of interest of any kind, however, then you may ignore the IP's warnings. As for lacking the 500 edits, 30 days tenure (WP:500-30 ) to edit the page by virtue of the Russo-Ukrainian War (WP:GS/RUSUKR) restriction, you may submit edit requests (WP:ER) with any proposals for improving the page. Proposals which other, tenured editors may then add. El_C 18:09, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Colonial empires

Do you mind unblocking the page? I gave Wee Curry Monster irrefutable evidence proving that Israel is a country with colonial origins, whilst citing direct quotes from Zionists such as Theodor Herzl and Vladimir Jabotinsky stating the colonial nature behind the colonization of Palestine:

https://archive.org/details/TheCompleteDiariesOfTheodorHerzl_201606/TheCompleteDiariesOfTheodorHerzlEngVolume3_OCR/page/n187/mode/2up

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/quot-the-iron-wall-quot

https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/ironwall/07-zionrev.htm 2600:6C44:77F:6B48:C057:C961:AA35:3437 (talk) 07:20, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Irrespective of that argument, as noted in my protection summary, years ago the Arbitration Committee has put a restriction in place that limits that content to a certain tenure. Specifically, in order to be eligible to add such content, you'd need to register an account and then have that account reach a tenure of 30 days + 500 edits. Hope that explains things more clearly. Thanks. El_C 07:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So, you're saying that regardless of whether or not the information provided is valid, the user who added the information is required to reach the 30 days + 500 edits tenure in order to count, right? 2600:6C44:77F:6B48:C057:C961:AA35:3437 (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. For that topic area, only editors who reach that tenure are permitted to challenge what is or is not valid. El_C 08:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see. 2600:6C44:77F:6B48:C057:C961:AA35:3437 (talk) 00:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding User talk:Karak1lc1k

It's rare that a quick unblock request isn't just a rant about how unfair everyone else is being, but it happens once in a while. The request is a little TLDR, but they take responsibility for their actions, admit to understanding that it was wrong, apologize for it, and have made assurances they will not repeat the action going forward. I'm inclined to grant the unblock request as a WP:ROPE last-chance situation. However, I wanted to confer with you as the blocking admin first. --Jayron 32 17:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank User:Jayron32--and El_C, just to make this clear, I want to thank you for the original block, even though I'm also thinking that an unblock is earned. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:54, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Same, FWIW. El C: Your block was well justified, but the unblock request also seems to show me that the user can be a productive member of the community. --Jayron 32 17:58, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jayron32 and Drmies: I replied here. Sorry, writing in haste. El_C 01:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you were in a rush refore, but it's been a week, and I'm looking for some more guidance. Would you or would you not accept the unblock request at this point? I'm on the fence, and some positive input, one way or the other, from you would really help. Thanks! --Jayron 32 15:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can't decline it, obviously, but I am against it now, at least for the time being, rather than neutral. Their reply to Beshogur, who like them seems inclined towards the same ethno-national battleground, while not bothering to address anything else, including making their unblock request readable by adding paragraph breaks — that's a no from me. Something about the tone and tenor of that terse reply, and it being the sole one... does not inspire confidence. El_C 15:44, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: I don't know him actually. Even his friend blamed me because supposedly "I banned them". Beshogur (talk) 15:47, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You say that, but your ideology aligns, and you were the only one to reflexively defend him without bothering to look more deeply — which double aligns. El_C 15:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

but your ideology aligns What do you mean? I don't even share same views with them on those certain Bulgar related articles. See [9]. I was saying to give him second chance as he put some apology message. That's it. I'm not even trying to enforce it. Block him or not, I don't care at all. Please don't align me with him. Beshogur (talk) 16:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As in Turkish/Turkic ethno-national ideology, Beshogur. But okay, I won't, but it's quite the happenstance nonetheless. El_C 16:05, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

" non-native English speaker, my eyes just glaze over"

I am a native speaker of English, and my eyes glazed over too. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:35, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm double-glazed! El_C 17:18, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a Bulgarian vandal

I admit it. Every time I read that, my mind launches into Cagney singing, "I'm a yankee-doodle dandy." Meh -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:11, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Two sub sections, I can do it! El_C 16:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kudmali Language

Sorry for that. I tried changing from Kurmali to Kudmali. But it was mistakenly changed to the Wikipedia project page. However, how can I do it right now? Help me plz. Thank You. চিথারাই মাহাতো (talk) 11:10, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey চিথারাই মাহাতো. Next time you need help with a technical move, you can post a request @Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Cheers! El_C 09:14, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GCB

GCB has been blocked by ArbCom as a sock of User:Jacurek. Finally, some progress. Jehochman ^Talk 01:20, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Princess (ship)

I was wondering, since it's been three years, if this article still needs protection, especially since most people have probably forgotten about this ship anyway and since Covid is not as bad as it was back in 2020. Thanks for your consideration. 173.167.177.193 (talk) 00:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and also, I requested unprotection of the articles Burger Chef and Burger Chef murders, which you also protected. I will copy my RFPU request below.

Both articles were protected indefinitely three years ago after having been attacked by an LTA. What is unusual is that both articles were protected indefinitely (rather than temporarily) after having been attacked by only one or two accounts, both with previously clean protection logs. As a result, I think experimental unprotection should be tried to see if the troll is gone. 173.167.177.193 (talk) 00:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IP, RE: Diamond Princess (ship), yeah, a lot of the ships were protected indefinitely, which this really prompts me to review all of them now. As I recall, the LTA was going for ships specifically, seemingly keeping a calendar with a timetable of protections' expirations, multiple times over, as well as finding new ones. However, the protection log of those new or newer ones would seem clean, even though they'd be part of that larger pattern.

RE: Burger Chef and Burger Chef murders — same larger pattern thing but more acute (the acute aspect for the above was that it was COVID, and even pre-DS and even pre-GS, to boot). Anyway, here, the LTA was targeting many, many burger, hot dog, etc., joints. I believe I protected over 100 of them in total. In some of the earlier iterations I recall the protections going something like this: 3 days, 2 weeks, one month, 3 months, 6 months, and after that indefinite for anything by that LTA.

I think a while back I've gone through the bulk of these (unprotecting), but some outliers might still remain. In any even, thanks for bringing this to my attention. The only page I can check updates on is my talk page, so reply here, if needed, as I'm unlikely to see pings regularly for the next little while. Cheers! El_C 02:19, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. Have a good day. 173.167.177.193 (talk) 02:25, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Big unprotection request

I found (a lot) more articles on ships that you protected during COVID that need unprotection. They are:

List (last updated 05:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

~~Norwegian Bliss~~ Done

~~Costa Favolosa~~ Done

~~Symphony of the Seas~~ Done

~~MSC Magnifica~~ Done

~~Costa Deliziosa~~ Done

Thanks (sorry there are so many). 47.227.95.73 (talk) 22:32, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey IP. Don't be sorry, this helps me. I also had a list in mind, but yours is better. I'm still testing the waters on the original. I was gonna wait till May, but may as well start now. So, I'm gonna do 5 at random, then mid / end of May do the rest if all is still well. If you or anyone else can help remind me to keep to the schedule, that'll be appreciated. Thanks again for your efforts! El_C 05:42, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thanks! 47.227.95.73 (talk) 10:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be about that time, and I don't think anything major has happened with these articles. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 11:19, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure Sandwich Article Protections

It's been 4 years, and I think Afghani burger and Fool's Gold Loaf and donkey burger are probably good to be edited by everyone. One guy 4 years ago edited them 1-2 times in a minute, which I'm not sure warranted the protections at all, though, since the edit content has been purged, I really couldn't say. But now, 4 years later, these pages could use all the editing they could get (especially the stub Afghani burger and donkey burger), and I think it's time to reconsider the protections. Bruhpedia (talk) 18:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That said, something bad was clearly going on with that unregistered user. I found more linked IP addresses that had unviewable edits of topics like Nicky Hilton Rothschild, which heavily implies some pretty alarming antisemitism, and vulgar threats to other users on Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports. However, as the edits seem to have been dispersed across pages, I'm still not sure protecting pages was especially helpful. Bruhpedia (talk) 18:25, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All outstanding requests (ships) now done. RE: Sandwiches — Bruhpedia, yes, it involved hundreds of pages vandalized by that LTA at the time. As stated above, I thought I unprotected all of em years ago, but obviously missed a few. El_C 18:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ruby Princess protection

I was editing Ruby Princess and noticed it is still under whitelock protection. Not to be confused with collision protection, which it does not have (they hit the dock kinda hard today). I don't have a view, since I don't really know the Australia Covid controversy. But it doesn't seem to have had any covid edits for two years... maybe it doesn't need protection any more? Cheers. Chris vLS (talk) 00:18, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, nothing about the Australia stuff for two years... they had a more Covid action last year... Chris vLS (talk) 05:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotected. See above, Chris. I guessed we missed it. The article does seem to be, like, 80 percent WP:COVIDCT, but maybe it'll be fine. Please keep an eye, if you can. Cheers! El_C 08:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, thanks! Chris vLS (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ANI stuff

I've made a thread at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#SpaceX_Starship that involves you, as a protecting admin of the page. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 12:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

T-64 RPP

The page at RPP told me not to edit there directly, so hopefully posting here is an adequate solution. The specific edit made by this IP today [10] is identical to this one made earlier this year, from an IP range that has now been blocked from both the T-34 and T-64 articles, where this particular sock operates. Hope this is sufficient. Loafiewa (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. You didn't link the blocked /24 range, so I couldn't immediately see them having edited the article in question. You should be able to edit WP:RFPP/I#T-64 directly, though. Anyway, will block and protect. Thanks. El_C 23:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That IP

The more I looked at their history, the worse it got. Acroterion (talk) 00:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same. Holy shit! El_C 00:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AE

Would it be possible for you to take a look at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Oriental Aristocrat? Thanks Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 04:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

K. El_C 04:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Do contact"

He means reach out just say, "HI". To have a lovely conversation, an exchange of ideas. The interpersonal relations thing. Happy to help. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:38, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My English is, how you say, inelegant. El_C 22:19, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mine too. Meh. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Thank you for clarifying me. Your message clarified me." Softlavender (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing El C a very C happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! interstate five 00:23, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks interstatefive!

El_C 12:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotection

Hi, a page, Cambodia, is just unprotected for a month and immediately reprotected. Perhaps you should unprotect the page to see if there is really much disruption, or the set protection should have only been for a period. I think the previous disruption is only temporary in that period and not that much. 117.1.119.120 (talk) 09:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IP, it was protected for five years before then, so disruption resumed almost immediately. I also disagree with your assertion that there wasn't "that much" of it. In any case, it's protected indefinitely as a "perennial problem," like many (most?) country articles are. [Example:...is bordered by Thailand (←indef WP:SEMI) to the northwest, Laos (←not protected) to the north, Vietnam (←indef WP:ECP)]. Which is to say: I purposefully set the protection not to expire and have no intention on unprotecting it for the foreseeable. Thanks. El_C 12:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the protection log of the page, I see that there were only 2 protection occasions and both are time-set; the previous protection was supposed to expire in the year it was protected, 2018, but someone moved the protection from another page so the page was erroneously semi-protected for 5 years before this was realized and the page was then unprotected. While you can compare this with the article Thailand and its protection log, there are like 13+ time-set protection attempts before it was decided it was disruptive long enough to apply indefinite semi-protection, which is a lot more than this page, which has only seen 2 protection occurrences. Other countries' articles with indefinite semi protection also have many more trials of time-set protection as reading in the logs (Colombia, Bulgaria, Iraq, Serbia, Czech Republic, ...etc) before an indefinite semi-protection is warranted. At least, you can try to unprotect the article for 1 more trial and see if disruption is really as bad as those other examples or not. 117.1.119.120 (talk) 14:24, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IP, I don't need to compare it. We are not counting protections as a strictly required metric. And the protection being left for years rather than months by mistake does not change from the outcome: very long protection ends → disruption immediately resumes. That said, if you feel you have a strong case for unprotection, you could take it to WP:RFPP/D (link to this discussion) to see what other admins have to say. El_C 15:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2014 Brazilian general election

Hello. You turned down protection of this page a week or two ago because there was no talk page discussion. There is one now, but the IP is still reverting (their latest revert was after I pointed them to a previous discussion on images, to which they did not respond but just reverted again). Can the page be semi-protected now? It's clear the IP has no intention of stopping. Cheers, Number 5 7 15:39, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May music

May songs
my story today

I had a good story on coronation day: the Te Deum we sang that day. And the following day we sang it for the composer ;)

I heard pleasant music today - did you know a string quartet with two cellos (and no article yet in English? - I nominated Soňa Červená for GA just to give her a bit more exposure.

Psalm 88? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Nice, that's what we in the biz call a two cello remix. El_C 05:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, always learning - but what is "re-" in a new composition? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From Remix:

A remix (or reorchestration) is a piece of media which has been altered or contorted from its original state by adding, removing, or changing pieces of the item.

Example from the Song spam: Sunny (original Papik Mix) vis-à-vis Sunny (Francesco Cofano Remix), where the remix is actually the superior track, because... dat bass. El_C 06:32, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

yes, I even knew dat, but Arensky's quartet is an original composition conceived that way, and I loved it: more sonourous low register, and the one violin standing out more. The viola had the first theme. I took the image to string quartet, and found that they list many varieties but not that one. Piece needs an article, but I'm busy with two women who recently died, one nominated for GA, the other not yet updated. - The next psalm missing is Psalm 72. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I_C. Reorchestration, then? RE: 72 — 20 lines? Fr

wn. El_C 10:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

not sure, as it's an original composition - would Psalm 92 be more comfortable? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pentecost was full of music, and my story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Qirtaiba

Do you think it might be wise to remove the link to his web site from his user page? It looks like a professional consultancy site at first, but it has child-related content. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Done per WP:UPNOT. At the very least the inclusion of this weblink on a userpage has nothing to do with improving Wikipedia. -- Euryalus (talk) 09:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you both! El_C 10:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, it might be worth revdelling Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Minor-attracted person (2nd nomination) from revisions 1155011353 to 1155094689, as it includes the same link as added by R alvarez02. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 16:23, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

LilianaUwU, while I believe the link should be removed from the front end of pages, I don't think that it qualifies for back end removal (WP:REVDEL), since it does not, as far as I'm aware, contain any illicit material, only advocacy. That said, I see that Euryalus has closed that AfD with a delete+salt outcome (←good close), so I'm content with leaving that decision to them and would not object if they were to go the revdel route (a legit position).

Please note also that only items appearing on the main WP:ARTICLESPACE actually get indexed by Google (I'm pretty sure), thereby addressing most of the potential WP:PROMO outside the editorial ecosystem. If, however, the spamming of that link were to be discovered elsewhere, then revdel definitely should be employed if only as a deterrent, possibly even escalating it to non grata As Fuck (i.e. WP:AF). Either way, thanks for your note and please keep me updated. Cheers! El_C 11:06, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please note also that only items appearing on the main WP:ARTICLESPACE actually get indexed by Google — Nope, you have that back to front. By default all pages in all namespaces are indexed by web crawlers unless they are specifically excluded - the only namespaces where search engine indexing is disabled by default are user, user talk, draft, and draft talk.

In this case these deletion discussions wouldn't be indexed, because MediaWiki:Robots.txt instructs indexing bots to ignore deletion discussions, but as a general rule stuff in wikipedia space is indexed by google.

See WP:Controlling search engine indexing for more details. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, IP. I learned something new! El_C 12:25, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, glad it helped! 163.1.15.238 (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I pinged you to User talk:Qirtaiba regarding possible PAs and TPA, but then saw on ANI that you might not be seeing pings. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:06, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BMK, for the time being, best to just not engage with him. El_C 18:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. I've backed off. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:28, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template question

Hi, El C!! Hope you're doing well, and not letting the drama eat your lunch. I wanted to drop by and just say "hi" but figured while I'm here, why not try to get a little puzzle solved. Just curious...if a person wanted to edit/modify the various templates on this page, how would they edit those individual templates? For example, when I click on edit or quick edit, it just brings up more templates. Atsme 💬 📧 01:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Atsme That page is the template's documentation page, it shows various examples of usages of the template and the output they produce. To edit the template itself you need to edit the page Template:Template display.

The template is implemented using two #switch parser functions, one to select the image and one to select the message. To change the look of the "nodesktop" message you would change the |nodesktop=[[File:Desktop devices no.svg|55px|link=|alt=]] code at the top to change the image, and the

| nodesktop = This template does ''not'' display in the desktop view of Wikipedia; it is <strong>mobile only</strong>. Read the documentation for an explanation.

code at the bottom to change the message. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 15:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou, IP163!! Atsme 💬 📧 02:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you, Atsme.

Oh drama is my lunch! (←please quote) Anyway, glad that IP editor answered your question (they're good!), I certainly wouldn't have been able to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 18:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Life is good, and so is knowing you, Mr. Drama "is" your lunch! <-- quoted. I still enjoy learning new things here and there! ❤️ Atsme 💬 📧 19:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom case

Hello, I have filed an ArbCom case involving your recent close thanks. Jack4576 (talk) 06:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

K. El_C 06:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm opening a fresh ANI as a first appeal instead. Thanks. Jack4576 (talk) 07:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should be at @WP:AN, not ANI. El_C 07:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, at WP:AN, thank you Jack4576 (talk) 07:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NP, but I asked you at the beginning not to split the discussion, so let's keep to @User_talk:Jack4576#Topic ban imposed (or to the appeal itself) moving forward, as I originally intended. Thanks. El_C 07:28, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I needed to post here to notify you of the appeal as per guidelines Jack4576 (talk) 07:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"notwithstanding not insignificant" is a doozy of a phrase! CMD (talk) 10:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ANI case

Hi El C, I'm just contacting you in your capacity as an admin for some advice on an ANI which is currently being held against me. ~~I am a little concerned that the ANI has been advertised on FTN, when the main problem I have is with what I believe to be canvassing on that board.~~

I am not sure if this notification on there was justified, as it will almost certainly lead to a vote stack. My first question is whether there anything dodgy with the way this was done, or am I just going to have to deal with it?

My second question is that the origin of the dispute was a disagreement on an AfD page, which has attracted a much more diverse audience. Is neutrally notifying on that page that the ANI is ongoing legitimate, or would it be canvassing?

All the best

BNS Boynamedsue (talk) 08:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Kinda ironic dont you think that a user ranting left right and centre about CANVASSING should be asking for advice about the definition of CANVASSING. Oh how I laughed. - Roxy the dog 08:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, man who is up in ANI is being very careful about what he posts. It's a hilarious situation. Boynamedsue (talk) 08:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Boynamedsue: the post you linked to at FTN above does not advertise the ANI. That FTN post pertains to the AfD. Maybe this is a typo on your part? The FTN post is dated 19 May. The ANI was opened on 21 May, so that post could not pertain to the ANI. Regards ---Steve Quinn (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are quite right Steve Quinn, that is a mistake on my part. I thought the link on the older post was to the ANI discussion, as I noticed it after the ANI had opened. I think this might have happened because I had the ANI discussion open in another window. I've struck out the comment. Boynamedsue (talk) 21:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Boynamedsue: sorry to ping you again. My two cents - If you want to post a notice of the ANI at the Afd, then personally I don't have a problem with that. The AfD is perhaps tangentially related to the ANI. However, consider that the ANI seems to have mostly wound down and I think most of the issues have been resolved. Also, I don't know how well an ANI notification will be received at the AfD. Such a notification might elicit no response from AfD participants or it could result in some negative comments. Just be prepared if you choose to do this. ----Steve Quinn (talk) 22:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Boynamedsue, I don't think there is one-size-fits-all answer, as it would depend on context (i.e. the particulars of any given example}. El_C 10:53, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback. Boynamedsue (talk) 16:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

June songs

June songs
my story today

I like today's Main page, and here's why ;) - (DYK that we got filmed when performing the piece mentioned) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mordechai Rechtman: can you please add the Hebrew source for his death to the article? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, - he's on the Mai page now! - Last weekend was nice, class reunion a funny number of years after completing school, and the lovely park where I spent many Sundays as a child. Today's story is quite dramatic, there's a yt trailer to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks as always for the songs! I'm back. Yeah np and congrats. Btw, I'm usually available by email when away, so please don't hesitate!

El_C 20:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! - Should I send you an email to take please care of Psalm 72? - Will upload more pics, but haven't seen them. Tasty ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I updated from May to today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jörg Widmann is 50 today, and I began Stockholm pics, including reindeer toddler. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:09, 19 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find the reindeer toddler

— please link directly! Anyway, so I'm drinking iced coffee, but had to step out for a bit so was no longer iced. But I had no ice cubes. But I did have frozen strawberries. What an amazing disc🍓bery! El_C 14:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I had prepared it to be uploaded, but didn't get to it - until today about the time you frowned, following goats, preceeding moose. Please try again. More to come. I was busy with three who died, including Gabriele Schnaut whom I saw twice, not Wagner and Strauss, but Bach and Weill. - Latest psalm needing Hebrew is Psalm 105. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And now I can't stop, so tart! Nice, that reindeer toddler does seem acutely pettable. Psalm 105 is 45 lines! Eep. El_C 16:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

love it! - today: a woman caught by the iron curtain (improved with SusunW and GRuban), yesterday: the Mass in B minor, heard in concert then, three musical videos are out, and the rest of the vacation pics is now there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

RPP

Thanks for protecting pages. I appreciate people who are typically more open to protecting pages rather than who just deny page protection just because they can. I would appreciate if you could also protect Jude Bellingham - I put in a request at RPP FYI. Thanks for what you do! Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks Paul Vaurie, I appreciate the kind words. Looks like it's already been protected. Regards, El_C 04:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw that. Maybe I misclicked, but I thought that I had asked for EC protection, although it is indeed already semi-protected. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:10, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't see the request, but regardless, we usually go with WP:SEMI first and only upgrade to WP:ECP if that doesn't work. Which is to say: a straight-to-ECP protection action needs clear and unambiguous reasoning, preferably with WP:DIFF evidence attached. El_C 04:22, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, that makes sense. I think it was already protected at the time, but the disruptive editing has stopped and that's what matters. Thanks again! Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:24, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Np. Also, keep in mind that if the disruption comes from just one (possibly even two) confirmed account(s), we usually WP:BLOCK. Only if it's a few of em do we then protect. El_C 04:28, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

People of Assam

Thank you for protecting the page. Could you please restore it to the long-standing version? I am not sure what is WP:UNDUE as claimed by the anonymous editor. There already exists discussions in talk page. Chaipau (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the IP is in a range block for WP:DE [11]. Chaipau (talk) 13:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chaipau, my editing the fully-protected page back to your version would go against the general ethos of m:The Wrong Version (the humorous tone of that page notwithstanding). As for the range block of all those namespaces, I'm not sure that has anything to do with that particular disputant (though you could ask the blocking admin about that). I still think an attempt to engage the article talk page by both of you, rather than trading insults in edit summaries, is the way to go. Though time will tell, I suppose. Good luck! El_C 21:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have started a section in the talk page:Talk:People_of_Assam#Edit_warring_on_Delancey.

Yes I agree my request was inappropriate. I apologize. Just to clarify---the 4 restorations were done by 4 different named editors and none of the restorations had insulting summaries.

Chaipau (talk) 22:23, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Np. I already replied there. Note that if they fail to engage after, say, several days, then they'd be viewed as having forfeited their position, at least until such time that changes. That said, calling someone a "vandal" when they raise policy objections, like UNDUE, is as much a personal attack as "cringe individual," so please keep that in mind moving forward. El_C 22:29, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree. Thanks. Chaipau (talk) 22:51, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Roxy the dog ANI closure

A note regarding your recent closure of discussion at ANI.

Your comments indicate that you have very strong views on the matter and so you that makes you very WP:INVOLVED.
From my reading, you have stated that you rushed to close discussion just minutes after the minimum to make sure that you could personally control the result - saying "And as for new proposals, like an WP:IBAN, etc., I think that ship has sailed for now".
You engaged in rhetorical flourishes about righting great wrongs and you admitted that the pre-closure consultation was specifically to "gauge the views of trans and non-binary editors".

The closure was rushed, the extended comments were unfortunate, and the unorthodox "pre-closure consultation" was only to hear from “trans and non-binary editors”.

Lightburst (talk) 15:20, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

El C, I'm not here to contest the findings of the close. I believe your conclusion for an indefinite community ban was correct. I will say that you did not address directly whether or not the community decided for a GENSEX topic ban to be concurrent with the community ban. This was a portion of the discussion that probably had the clearest consensus, and I imagine any potential successful appeal for Roxy the dog would include him not being in the GENSEX area. I wish you had included that in your close so we don't have to stipulate it in any future appeals by Roxy. Thank you. Iamreallygoodatcheckers^talk 18:38, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lightburst, I do not view myself as INVOLVED for this contentious topic area any more so than any of the other ones I regularly attend to. Nor do I view it as having exceptional "rhetorical flourishes." I also am unsure why you'd conflate me wanting to hear "especially" from a targeted group to me only wanting to hear from them. Finally, I outlined my reasoning for closing that complaint on the 72-hour marker. So if you still consider my close to be subpar, you have the option to escalate the WP:CLOSECHALLENGE to WP:AN with the aim of seeing it overturned.

Iamreallygoodatcheckers, that was left to the appeal by design, which I honestly do not expect to be much of a hindrance. But at any rate, the reason for that was so that RtD could possibly engage in a constructive dialogue about the subject matter, as was noted in User talk:Roxy the dog#Community ban. Also, note that GENSEX being a contentious topic means that any admin could impose sanctions relating to it singularly, though again, my sense is that it is unlikely to be much of a problem, either way. Hope that clears things up. El_C 20:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why does every difficult and detailed closure have to be contested nowadays? Cheers, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 12:34, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ban template

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive353#Note_from_blocking_admin

I think you're probably aware of the edit-warring and whatnot that happened. I'm merely noting - what I said here - if you, as the blocking admin, wish to revert/remove the ban template from their talk page, obviously please feel free. - jc37 11:00, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, jc37, I left that open-ended for a Roxy the dog (←ping'd and now ping'd again just to be sure; ping me, in turn, if answering in the affirmative, Roxy) to decide, so maybe they will. As mentioned, ultimately, I don't think ban tags are all that important (for non- LTAs, Socks, etc., at least). But I also don't believe in auto-tagging banned content editors, either, for the reasons stated (i.e. potential badge of shame / discouragement). I think that should be left to the discretion of the enforcing admin. No big deal, though, regardless, and thanks for reaching out. I appreciate it. El_C 02:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And someone else has reverted the template - though I guess they didn't know the section at WP:BAN was changed to #User pages. I'm stepping away from the discussion(s), per Wikipedia_talk:Banning_policy#Note.

This is just merely a note, in case you haven't seen what has been transpiring in the interim. I thought you should have a head's up, in case this heads back to AN or AN/I.

All this aside, I do hope you are having a good day today : ) - jc37 06:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, I was unaware that that discussion was still going (which makes sense, I suppose), though I did catch some of its earlier iterations. Thanks for letting me know, though. I'm not really around for the next little while, but regardless, I don't really have much to add on the subject, nor any objections to anyone or anything as far as the specifics here. Best wishes, El_C 08:39, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Qirtaiba-- UTRS

Let's just say user sees and processes information in a different way than you and I. Neither Yamla nor I wanted to touch that thing. Primefac suggested sending it to the WMF people. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No comment. El_C 07:09, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

another sock here

Dear El C. I see you have protected previously the page of Tamaz Somkhishvili from editing by new users, but the sock of AlexanderVolkov123 (here it was clearly stated and proved Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JeILoenita as well as on Russian wikipedia [12]) again spams the page with blatant promotion and undisclosed paid editing. Tsans2 (talk) 12:49, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tsans2, I don't understand what you're asking me to do, or even which specific ("another sock") user/s you're referring to. Feel free to just link to the account/s directly, that would be simplest. El_C 14:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They're talking about User:AlexanderVolkov123 (and they're almost certainly correct), but that account hasn't edited for five weeks. Black Kite (talk) 14:15, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it, though? Because they write the sock of AlexanderVolkov123, so I'm still unsure. El_C 14:25, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hero

I knew there was a reason you were willing to put up with the bullshit that came with nominating me. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When editors cometo pointless blowsdon't forgetto sign your closeBurma-shave _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, big payoff! El_C 16:50, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rosguill, I'm a failure. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AlisonW case request accepted

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/AlisonW/Evidence. Please add your evidence by June 30, 2023, which is when the evidence phase closes. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 23:51, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

Tamaz Somkhishvili's page has been in a war of edits by Tsans2's user. It is suspected that this account was ordered to blacken the persona by Wikibusiness. Specifically the addition of these edits ([13][14]). As well as a Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kolburor request from MER-C. Mykytal (talk) 14:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely: User talk:Tsans2#Block. El_C 15:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

El_C I would like to draw your attention. After Tsans2 account was blocked on June 22nd the user JeILoenita who is mentioned in the Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kolburor and who created Tamaz Somkhishvili's page [15] returned on June 23rd after a two-month absence [16]. Tamaz Somkhishvili's page has been secured and it can be edited by users who have 500 edits. From 23 to 28 June user JeILoenita actively edits the pages to reach 500 edits and on 28 June he edits the Somkhishvili page again [17]. Mykytal (talk) 09:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit wars at Tamaz Somkhishvili

Hello,

There seems to be an edit war at Tamaz Somkhishvili, which you semi-protected recently. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. You are mistaken. It is done, at least for the time being (see above). El_C 23:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I misread the history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of progressive rock artists

Hi El C, I am confused by your entry in the block log at List of progressive rock artists

12:17, 21 February 2022 El C talk contribs configured pending changes settings for List of progressive rock artists [Auto-accept: require "autoconfirmed" permission] (Addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content)

This doesn't seem to have an expiry date, so I assume it is indefinite, but a new account has just edited the page. What is the current position? - Arjayay (talk) 20:52, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. So pending changes (WP:PC) is the lowest level of protection. Arguably, it isn't even really protection, at least in the normal sense, since IPs and non-confirmed accounts indeed are able to edit articles subject to it. However, those edits receive limited visibility (IIRC including indexing by Google), at least until approved by a pc reviewer (a perm you yourself have available, were you unaware?). Anyway, generally, pc is meant to prevent disruptive changes from falling through the cracks in low or intermittent -traffic articles (i.e. those changes pending review). El_C 22:00, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I understand PC protection, but I didn't see that the edits had been accepted by another editor, before I deleted them for non-compliance. However, this doesn't answer my question about duration - I thought all protections had to have a defined timescale? even if it is indefinite? am I wrong? - Arjayay (talk) 22:08, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what it is you're asking me, but some pages are protected indefinitely (a duration which by its nature is undefined), just like some users are blocked indefinitely — depending on need. The protection template would have looked like: {{subst:rfpp|pc|indefinite}} →

Pending-changes protected indefinitely. El_C 22:16, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am well aware of that, but the protection period usually appears in the block log e.g. (expires 20:50, 25 September 2018) or (indefinite). In this instance, as shown in the extract from the block log I reproduced above, there is no such period given, hence my original question "This doesn't seem to have an expiry date, so I assume it is indefinite" ? - Arjayay (talk) 22:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, indefinite. Its log is separate from the protection log, which has always been a little wonky. El_C 22:31, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 22:35, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Karim Benzema - indef semi protection

Hello, random I know but I remember being on Benzema's page when you asked someone to remind you to re-instate the indefinite semi protection level when the current one expires, I think there were a lot of pesky edits. Just reminding you while I remember to do this as I seem to recall you asking this! PeachyBum07 (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Indeed I did, PeachyBum07, but remind me on Jul 7 when it expires, because I probably won't remember by then (though stranger things have happened). Cheers! El_C 19:02, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: Here's your reminder! Tollens (talk) 21:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks for the reminder, Tollens, I appreciate it. El_C 08:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pageant help

Can you look at the recent history of Miss Teen USA 2023‎ and tell me if there's anything I should do beyond this and this? I don't want to be the one edit warring, so I have not reverted again. Should I be requesting the page be added to the WP:GS/PAGEANTS roster? ☆ Bri (talk) 21:49, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked indefinitely: User talk:Peneid#Indefinite block. El_C 08:26, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July music

July songs

my story today

My story today pictures a friend whose birthday is today ;) - we listened to music she helped publishing - at a fancy place (which looked different when Bach played there). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a funcy party. I hope there was cake to go with the tunes!

El_C 08:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please protect my talk page

Please protect my talk page because today 3 Bulgarian IP addresses started harassing me again and they want me to stop editing pages that had false information about TV channels. It has been 2 weeks now and the nonsense has started again with the harassment (diff 1, diff 2, diff 3). LDM2003 ^{talk to me!} 10:18, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)Have reprotected the talkpage for a month. Appreciate this was actually a message for El C, but seemed worth doing asap given the number of nonsense edits. -- Euryalus (talk) 11:14, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed decision posted for the AlisonW case

The proposed decision for the AlisonW case has been posted. Statements regarding the proposed decision are welcome at the talk page. Please note that comments must be made in your own section. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 15:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 1,989: / Line 1,989: @@
 :Well, nothing about the Australia stuff for two years... they had a more Covid action last year... [[User:Chrisvls|Chris vLS]] ([[User talk:Chrisvls|talk]]) 05:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 ::[[File:Pictogram voting keep.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Unprotected'''<!-- Template:RFPP#unpr -->. See above, Chris. I guessed we missed it. The article does seem to be, like, 80 percent [[WP:COVIDCT]], but maybe it'll be fine. Please keep an eye, if you can. Cheers! [[User:El_C|El_C]] 08:31, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
+:::Will do, thanks! [[User:Chrisvls|Chris vLS]] ([[User talk:Chrisvls|talk]]) 21:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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