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*:{{done}} Also changed "discovered" to "demonstrated"; it seems unlikely he "discovered" it worked by using it on dinner guests. This better matches the article wording. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 18:41, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
*:{{done}} Also changed "discovered" to "demonstrated"; it seems unlikely he "discovered" it worked by using it on dinner guests. This better matches the article wording. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 18:41, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the quick work. I don't mind either way about discover vs demonstrate, but the [[James Young Simpson]] article does imply it was an accidental discovery rather than a deliberate demonstration: he and his 2 assistants tried out a different potential anaesthetic each evening! [[User:Jmchutchinson|Jmchutchinson]] ([[User talk:Jmchutchinson|talk]]) 19:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the quick work. I don't mind either way about discover vs demonstrate, but the [[James Young Simpson]] article does imply it was an accidental discovery rather than a deliberate demonstration: he and his 2 assistants tried out a different potential anaesthetic each evening! [[User:Jmchutchinson|Jmchutchinson]] ([[User talk:Jmchutchinson|talk]]) 19:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Jmchutchinson}} Interesting, thanks. It looks like the articles [[Chloroform]] and [[James Young Simpson]] disagree; the former clearly says it was entertainment, not science. The source linked at the latter seems clear it was intentional experimentation. I'm happy to defer to your judgement if you think "discovered" is better. --[[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]] ([[User talk:Floquenbeam|talk]]) 19:53, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
::::As an admin once summarised: "words are so hard to understand"....! [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] <small>([[User talk:The Rambling Man|Hands! Face! Space!&#33;!&#33;]])</small> 19:36, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

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  • 1847 entry would naturally be interpreted as this being the first discovery. But according to our chloroform entry, "The anaesthetic qualities of chloroform were first described in 1842 in a thesis by Robert Mortimer Glover". Simpson's 1847 discovery was of the effect ON HUMANS (Glover had worked on dogs). I suggest to add "on humans" after "chloroform". Jmchutchinson (talk) 18:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
     Done Also changed "discovered" to "demonstrated"; it seems unlikely he "discovered" it worked by using it on dinner guests. This better matches the article wording. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick work. I don't mind either way about discover vs demonstrate, but the James Young Simpson article does imply it was an accidental discovery rather than a deliberate demonstration: he and his 2 assistants tried out a different potential anaesthetic each evening! Jmchutchinson (talk) 19:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmchutchinson: Interesting, thanks. It looks like the articles Chloroform and James Young Simpson disagree; the former clearly says it was entertainment, not science. The source linked at the latter seems clear it was intentional experimentation. I'm happy to defer to your judgement if you think "discovered" is better. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:53, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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