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Exterior of the Stonewall Inn ... that after the original Stonewall Inn (modern building pictured) closed in 1969, its space was used by a bagel shop, a Chinese restaurant, and a clothing store? ... that baseball player Shane Rawley has published a novel? ... that the Cat Empire's 2023 album Where the Angels Fall features contributions from 75 musicians and 49 instruments? ... that Sara Houcke began performing in circuses at the age of two as a child clown? ... that a man was denaturalized and deported from the United States for working at a Nazi death camp, despite the courts never holding that he did it willingly? ... that Joy was the sole survivor of the Romanov family's execution? ... that Black Sheep Radio dedicated its first day of programming to a fallen pirate? ... that The Penguin History of Modern China profiled the Christian General, whose army moved to the beat of "Hark! The Herald Angels Sing"? ... that in the Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show, the performers scale a 50-foot (15 m) tree and then free fall?

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on November 11

• ...that the day after his 32nd birthday General Archibald Gracie III (pictured) was looking out at the Union lines through his telescope when an artillery shell exploded in front of him killing him instantly? New Article Self Nom. Duke R. Oliver I ^{His Duchy} 02:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 10

• ... that James-Younger Gang member "Dick" Liddil (pictured) surrendered to authorities after killing Jesse James' cousin, reportedly out of fear of that James would seek revenge? new article by Lhw1 (talk · contribs) and cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 05:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that pre-operative transsexual Japanese adult video actress Miki Mizuasa was nominated for the Best Actress award at the 2007 Adult Broadcasting Awards? new article by Cherryblossom1982 (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 02:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that the bacterium Propionibacterium freudenreichii is responsible for forming the holes in Swiss cheese by releasing carbon dioxide? --new article, self-nom by 4dhayman (talk) 02:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that John Trudeau established the Britt Festival in Oregon in 1962, the first of its kind in the Pacific Northwest of the US, and now a four-month long celebration of music and musical theater? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 02:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the acquisition of the Corus Group on October 20, 2006 has made Tata Steel India's second largest company in the private sector? -created by User:Hrukna and nom by-Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 01:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that at Template:Km to mi long and Template:M to ft deep the Saguenay Fjord is a fjord in Canada located in Quebec's Saguenay River valley amidst the Laurentian Upland. -- new article, self-nom by SriMesh | talk 01:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that Rear admiral John Adams of the Royal Navy was the author of The Adventure of Charlie the Cone based on stories about a traffic cone that he made up for his children on long trips? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that one of the possible explanation of Flying Dutchman legends might be a Fata Morgana?(pictured) --expanded, self nom by --Mbz1 (talk) 21:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Richard Maack was a Russian naturalist who lead some of the first major scientific expeditions to remote Siberia and the Russian Far East? --new article, self nom by Earthdirt (talk) 20:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Survival of the Shawangunks is a triathlon boasting seven transitions between events, and requiring competitors to swim with their running shoes? --new article, self nom by otherlleft (talk) 17:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that physician William Beierwaltes, a pioneer in nuclear medicine, was one of five attendees at the first course for doctors offered by the Atomic Energy Commission on the medical use of radioisotopes? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 17:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

File:Ota Minoru.jpg

• ... that Rear Admiral Minoru Ōta, commander of Imperial Japanese Navy at the Battle of Okinawa, had earlier been earmarked to command Japanese landing forces at the Battle of Midway? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 15:45, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the intricate rococo decoration of the Grand Church of the Winter Palace was recreated in papier-mâché after a fire destroyed most of the original interiors of the Winter Palace in 1837? -- another article by User:Giano II recently moved to main space; nom by Testing times (talk) 15:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the walls of Peter the Great's first "palace" in the nascent St Petersburg, a 60 m² (650 sq ft) log cabin, were painted to resemble brickwork?" -- yet another article by User:Giano II; nom by Testing times (talk) 15:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Pitkin watch

• ... that, along with his brother, Henry Pitkin produced the first American-designed pocket watches (pictured) with machine-made parts? new article, self nom by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Verified. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 14:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Austro-Hungarian submarine SM U-10, which sank two ships and captured a third during World War I, was the only boat of the U-10-class to sink during the war? -- new article self-nom by Bellhalla (talk) 12:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that "There's No One As Irish As Barack O'Bama" is a spoof folk song first performed in a pub in the Irish village from where the President-elect of the United States claims that his great-great-great grandfather came? --- new article (self nom)--Scott MacDonald (talk) 11:36, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Article has been listed at AfD. Also, looking at the edit history, I'm pretty sure that "There's No One As Irish As Barack O'Bama" is the new article and I have made it bold, rather than in italics. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes, I bolded it, but the scarequotes and bold got confuded. It is on afd, but the nomination is pretty frivolous, it will be kept.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 14:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
      • NB AFD closed as speedy/snowball keep.--Scott MacDonald (talk) 18:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that former American Medical Association president Ronald Davis played a major role in the AMA's 2008 apology to black doctors for the organization's role in a history of racial discrimination? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Verified. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Della Falls in British Columbia is considered to be the 16th tallest waterfall in the world at Template:M to ft and is the tallest measured waterfall in Canada? mdash; new article, self-nominated by SriMesh | talk 03:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt:) ... that at Template:M to ft, Della Falls in British Columbia is the tallest measured waterfall in Canada and 16th tallest in the world? Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Thank you SriMesh | talk 03:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the gentle, affectionate nature and agreeable temperament of the Lilacine Amazon has given it a favorable reputation as a companion parrot? — new article, self-nominated by krimpet✽ 03:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Ref given in article doesn't establish "reputation," it's just one guy saying they have a good temperament. Will need to suggest an alternate hook or find a better ref. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 2007 the Kenyon Athletic Center was surrounded by Knox County residents to "form a shield of protection" in preparation for a Billy Graham Evangelistic Association event? new article by self (moved from userspace today), self-nom. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 00:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that German entrepreneur, race driver and yacht skipper Udo Schütz won the 1000 km Nürburgring in 1967, the Targa Florio in 1969, and the Admiral's Cup in 1993? -- self-nom by  Matthead  Discuß   00:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Finnish-born filmmaker Antero Alli shot his 1995 science fiction feature The Drivetime on a budget of U$5,000? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 03:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 04:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Central Park

• ... that the top of the 51-story Central Park tower (pictured) in Perth, Western Australia sways about 30 cm (12 in) in the wind? -- self-nom de-stubbed (5x) article. - Mark 01:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• Date, expansion and ref verified. Changed "up to 30cm" to "about", considering the interviewee himself was fairly vague in "about a third of a metre". —97198 (talk) 05:46, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ...that, due to his support of Kentucky's efforts to secede from the Union, Henry Cornelius Burnett was one of only five members ever to be expelled from the United States Congress? Self-nom; five-fold expansion began November 10 diff Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 03:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 9

• ... that Taishō Baseball Girls is a popular light novel series about an all-girl baseball team set in Taishō era Japan? -- new article self-nom by ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Werner Krieglstein an Intenational recognised Philosopher,whos works have come up in many syposiums, is the founder of a neo-Nietzschen philosophical school called Transcendental Perspectivism? " -- new article by User:Dkriegls; Nom by Alexnia (talk) 18:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC) (last try for today)

• ... that quartic reciprocity was first conjectured by Swiss mathematician Euler in 1748–1750, but not proved until 1836–37 by Prussian mathematician Jacobi? -- new article by User:Virginia-American; nom by Bruce1ee^talk 10:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

- I'd like to tell you that the proof is obvious, but atually I assumed good faith. Well referenced etc. but off line. Thanks for an interesting read. Victuallers (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mike Davis envisioned his goal of making recreational boats available on the Hudson River in New York City after seeing how boats could be rented in Istanbul and rowed on the Bosporus? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that early childhood educator Barbara T. Bowman co-founded Chicago's Erikson Institute with the support of philanthropist Irving Harris? (new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 02:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Hedley Howarth helped lead New Zealand to its first ever test cricket win on the Indian subcontinent with a five-wicket bag against India in 1969? -- fivefold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 00:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that protests by Reverend Abraham Woods about the site of the 1990 PGA Championship led Shoal Creek to admit its first black member and new PGA rules requiring open membership policies at host clubs? -- new article, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 22:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that prehistoric ridgeway trails, though often steep, were usually the firmest and safest cart tracks before the advent of paved roads in western Europe? -- new article self-nom by JB Piggin (talk) 21:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the 1994 Royal Rumble match, both Bret Hart and Lex Lugar's feet hit the floor at the exact same time, making it the first and only time that two wrestlers were declared winners? Expanded and self nom by iMatthew 21:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

The Julia Butler Hansen Bridge as seen southbound from Cathlamet.

• ... the Julia Butler Hansen Bridge (pictured), which carries Washington State Route 409, was opened in August 1939 by Franklin D. Roosevelt, via telegraph from the White House? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by ~~ ComputerGuy 19:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Lebanese Navy SEALs undergo heavy military training, which spans three months and sometimes reaches 20 hours per day? article by Zaher1988 (talk · contribs) nomination by Parthian Scribe 19:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date verified. Foreign-language hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that decommissioning in Northern Ireland was a process in the Northern Ireland peace process? new article, self nom. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 18:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that one-third of India's population (roughly equivalent to the entire population of the United States) lives below the poverty line? article by Gppande (talk · contribs) nomination by Parthian Scribe 18:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 18 winners of the King of the Ring have won in ten different U.S. states? article by SRX (talk · contribs).--S_RX 18:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • The article length and refs look ok, but this hook doesn't really say anything interesting, it's pretty much just saying what the article is. It also forces the reader to do a bunch of counting. Can you suggest a different hook? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Alt:... that the there have been 18 winners of the King of the Ring since its inception in 1985?--S_RX 20:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
      • What about: ... that professional wrestler Bret Hart is the only person that has won the King of the Ring tournament more than once? Nikki311 20:58, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
        • That's a hook I can get behind. (Well, it's not perfect, but good enough, and there's no point starting a huge discussion over it.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that at one time, the Sneath Glass Company produced almost 90 percent of the glassware used in consumer refrigerators in the United States? article by TwoScars (talk · contribs) nomination by Parthian Scribe 18:08, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

An Akula class submarine

• ... that the construction of Russian submarine K-152 was started in 1991, but due to lack of funding was only finished in 2008? Jehochman ^Talk 16:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 16:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Currently on ITN. --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Rainfall map of Nora and Olaf (another cyclone)

• ... that Hurricane Nora was the strongest storm of the 2003 Pacific hurricane season and also caused heavy rain in Mexico with Olaf (rainfall map imaged)? Leave Message ,Yellow Evan home ,Sandbox[ 16:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Article is too old - appears to have been moved in to mainspace on 30th October & rewritten again on the 31st? Nancy ^talk 16:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the final section of La Nouvelle branch (pictured), a canal in south-central France, was constructed in 1776 to link Narbonne to the Canal du Midi via the Canal de la Robine and the Aude River? New article, self-nom Nancy ^talk 14:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Tarab Abdul Hadi co-founded the first Palestinian women's organization in 1929? (self-nom, new article) Tiamut^talk 13:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Stella Artois television advertisement Good Doctor won more awards than any other television campaign in 2002? GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 12:40, 9 November 2008 (UTC) (breaking Unwritten Rule C2 yet again!)
  • I don't think it's too advertisement-ish; we have DYKs about books or movies that won lots of awards, so this one just happens to be an ad that won a lot of awards. The point is that we ourselves aren't advertising. Oh, and length and hook verified; offline ref accepted in good faith. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Turkish poet Süleyman Nazif was sentenced in 1918 to execution by firing squad by the commander of the French occupying forces in Istanbul due to an article he wrote in a newspaper to condemn the occupation, but pardoned later? (Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by CeeGee (talk) 12:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC))

236 character hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• (alt)... that the Turkish poet Süleyman Nazif was sentenced to execution by firing squad for an article he wrote condemning the 1918 French occupation, but pardoned later? - may be possible to mahe it even snappier Victuallers (talk) 17:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
• (alt)...that the Turkish poet Süleyman Nazif was sentenced to execution by firing squad by the French forces due to an article he wrote condemning the occupation of Istanbul in 1918, but pardoned later? - reworded without changing the meaning CeeGee (talk) 06:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the SS Mahratta ran aground on the Goodwin Sands in 1939, less than a mile from the site the wreck of a previous ship named Mahratta? Article created and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 09:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the American television series Veronica Mars was renewed for a third season mainly because of the critical acclaim for previous seasons, despite low ratings? -- new article self-nom by Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 08:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after a federal jury in Portland, Oregon decided against the defendant in Byron v. Rajneesh Foundation International, followers of Rajneesh plotted to murder the plaintiff? -- self-nom by Cirt (talk) 08:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date verified. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Psilocybe montana

• ... that Psilocybe montana, the type species of the well-known genus of hallucinogenic mushrooms, does not actually contain psychedelic compounds? -- 5x expanded article, self-nom by Sasata (talk) 04:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Verified. Offline ref accepted in good faith. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:39, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Japanese admiral Ogasawara Naganari, close confidant and biographer of Fleet Admiral Togo Heihachiro, was tutor to Emperor Hirohito on naval matters? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 04:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Canadian-born Jim Koleff spent three decades in Europe as an ice hockey player, coach and manager after telling coach Dave Chambers that he would play in Italy for one year? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

For those of for whom hockey by default means field hockey, can we make clear that this is an ice hockey player we're talking about, even if it's a piped linked to ice hockey. David Underdown (talk) 11:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I have disambiguated "hockey" to "ice hockey". Alansohn (talk) 14:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Larry Krystkowiak is the only Milwaukee Bucks head coach to have spent his entire coaching career with the Bucks? new article, self-nom. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24_[c] 03:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that with his appointment to Secretary of Housing and Urban Development in 1966, Robert C. Weaver became the first African American to hold a U.S. Cabinet Secretaryship? (new article, self-nom) --Mr.crabby (Talk) 01:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 06:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that arcing horns are projecting conductors used to protect insulators on high voltage transmission systems from damage during flashover? +5x expansion (862->4560 bytes), self nom. — BillC ^talk 01:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Expansion and date good, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1ee^talk 10:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the members of Montreal-based electronic music duo Beast were both born in France and perform all of their songs in English? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Marchije (talk) 07:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Thirumangai Alvar, who is considered one of the most learned Alvar saint-poet in Hinduism, was initially a robber? self - nom. Former redirect --Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Hook is not currently cited in article. Length and date good. — BillC ^talk 01:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

"He is considered one of the most learned Alvar and the most superior Alvar in the context of composition of verses.[2]" and "Unable to bear the heavy expense of feeding a thousand people, Thirumangai resorted to robbery. Legend has it god Vishnu met him on such a robbery and transformed him by teaching the mantra "namo narayanaya".[1]" reference 1 is for the whole para.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 04:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the first batter Doug Nickle faced on his Major League Baseball debut, who was Alex Ramírez, hit a ground ball for a single? Self-nom. – RyanCross (talk) 18:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Verified. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Norwegian mathematician Bernt Michael Holmboe played an important role in the career of Niels Henrik Abel? -- self-nom by Punkmorten (talk) 23:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 8

• ... that the "Lucy" poems and the "Matthew" poems express a lack of faith in nature's ability to comfort an individual experiencing loss, which is unique in the poetry of William Wordsworth's early life? Triple-nom, co-nom with User:Ceoil. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
• OK. Offline ref accepted in good faith. The stuff being mentioned in the hook is in the "Matthew" poems article, not the other two. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Hurricane Lisa of the 1998 Atlantic hurricane season attained forward motion of over 58 mph (93 km/h) on October 9? –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Japan and India signed a peace treaty and established diplomatic relations on 28th April 1952, one of the first such treaties by Japan after the World War II. -- Article by Vamooom nomination by --GPPande talk! 19:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt:)... that Japan and India signed a peace treaty and established diplomatic relations on 28th April 1952, one of the first such treaties by Japan after World War II? Vamooom (talk) 01:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Mucking Excavation was criticised as excavation without publication? (new article self-nom by Rjm at sleepers (talk) 10:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC))

Some context, pls. And don't forget the question mark. Is the hook complete? --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Mucking was the then largest archaeological excavation in Europe. It is frequently mentioned in the literature, particularly in connection with Anglo-Saxon period. Publication of results remains incomplete 30 years after the excavation ended. How about ... that despite being widely mentioned in archaeological literature, the archaeological excavation at Mucking was criticised as excavation without publication? Rjm at sleepers (talk) 20:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, when Emperor Dezong of Tang fled after rebellion of Li Huaiguang, the official Qi Ying held the bridle of the imperial horse? (self-nomination, new article to displace redirect) --Nlu (talk) 16:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt:) ... that Qi Ying held the bridle of the imperial horse when Emperor Dezong of Tang fled after the rebellion of Li Huaiguang? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that of the over 4,000 U.S. chemical munitions found to be leaking chemical agents in 2002, more than 2,000 were Sarin-containing M55 rockets? Self nom: --IvoShandor (talk) 06:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, hook, refs verified. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 06:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that men from the 1st Oregon Volunteer Infantry Regiment were the first explorers to climb down the 800 foot caldera wall to reach the shore of Crater Lake? Self-nom.--Orygun (talk) 03:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

- fine article Victuallers (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that hammer throw athlete Al Hall won three gold medals in the sport at the Pan American Games, winning one in each of three consecutive decades with wins in 1959, 1963 and 1971? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 02:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that athlete Al Hall won three Pan American Games gold medals in the hammer throw in three consecutive decades, with wins in 1959, 1963 and 1971? Slightly condensed, alternate hook. --IvoShandor (talk) 12:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Length, hook, refs verified. Second hook is better (I did a minor copyedit of it, too). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Joe Wendryhoski, an inaugural member of the New Orleans Saints, played every offensive snap as the starting center for the team in both 1967 and 1968? -- fivefold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 23:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that before becoming a full-time professional footballer at the age of 21, Mike Bickle worked as a milkman? -- new article self-nom by ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the first same-sex kiss on an American soap opera was between fictional characters Lena Kundera and Bianca Montgomery in 2003, who were also American soap opera's first lesbian couple? -- created at 12:35, 8 November 2008, self-nominated by Flyer22 (talk) 22:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 06:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Bernard Courtois was the discoverer of iodine (3-D model shown)? expanded article 5 fold, self nom by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• 5X length, date, and hook verified from the article. Image free use verified from the image page. ♥ that image. It definitely should be on the Main Page. -- Suntag ☼ 04:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Is that how iodine looks like in its natural state? --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that President Benjamin Harrison appointed James R. Tanner Commissioner of the Pension Bureau in 1889, but had to remove him six months later because he vastly exceeded his office's budget? -- new article self-nom by Coemgenus 20:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Ecoleetage (talk) 04:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

What President? What country? Some context in the hook, please. --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the term Hindu Taliban is used by some tolerant or "secular" Hindus to describe the supporters of the Hindutva movement? (new article, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Note: Reference for the above statement is India: A Global Studies Handbook by Fritz Blackwell. Reference number 1. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, when amateur club TSV Vestenbergsgreuth beat German champions FC Bayern Munich 1–0 in the 1994-95 DFB Cup, it was considered to be one of the greatest upsets in German Cup history? self nom, new article (former redirect) EA210269 (talk) 15:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Nainital Lake, (pictured) a natural freshwater body, situated amidst the township of Nainital, tectonic in origin, is kidney shaped or crescent shaped with an outfall at the southeastern end? --Nvvchar (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Hitachi Zosen Corporation built the first oil tanker in Japan in 1908 per an order by Standard Oil Company? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 07:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Montigny mitrailleuse (pictured), a 1860s mobile volley gun, was very heavy at 2,000 pounds (910 kg)? -- article by PHG (talk · contribs), nom by Punkmorten (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Astragalus brauntonii, a species of milkvetch endemic to southern California, is a so-called pioneer species whose growth is spurred by fire? -- article by IceCreamAntisocial (talk · contribs), nom by Punkmorten (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Banc Ty'nddôl sun-disc (pictured), a gold ornament discovered at Cwmystwyth, is over 4,000 years old, making it the earliest gold artifact discovered in Wales? -new article, self-nom.  Geaugagrrl  ☎ 06:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that eight Kaba class destroyers of the Imperial Japanese Navy were based in Malta in World War I? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 05:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

An interesting new article (date and length verified) and an interesting hook. However, currently the sentence in the article which supports the fact given in the hook does not provide an in-line reference citation for that fact. You need to add such a citation to that sentence per DYK rules, see WP:DYK. Also, for the book references in the article please include additional publication details, such as publication years and the names of the publishers (and, if possible, ISBN numbers would be good too). Nsk92 (talk) 21:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I am rather confused. ALL book references in the article have publisher name, date and ISBN number listed in the "References" section, and the hook does have an in-line citation, linking to the author, book, and page number on the book, in question. I will put the publisher name and ISBN into the in-line citation as well, but this seems a bit redundant. --MChew (talk) 03:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was looking just at the "Notes" section, where the books quoted were just listed by author name and book title. I see now that these books are also listed under "References" with full publication details. So on that point everything is fine. However, the issue of an inline citation still needs to be fixed. At the moment there is an in-line citation (to note no. 6) at the end of the following sentence: "The Japanese fleet was nominally independent, but carried out operations under the direction of the Royal Navy command on Malta, primarily in escort operations for transport and troopship convoys and in anti-submarine warfare operations". The problem is that this sentence does not mention the number of ships (eight destroyers) which is what the hook is about. You just need to add an in-line citation (even if it is a direct duplicate of citation no 6, with the same page number) in the preceding sentence:"This deployment began with Rear Admiral Kozo Sato arrived in Malta in mid-April 1917, with the cruiser Akashi as his flagship and eight Kaba-class destroyers". Then everything will be OK. Nsk92 (talk) 03:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, now everything looks good. Date and length of the article OK, length of the hook OK, the hook is supported by two references, one off-line and one online. Nsk92 (talk) 12:45, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay! --MChew (talk) 07:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Where should "(pictured)" be placed? --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dream Cinema is the last remaining single screen movie theater in Seoul? -- new article, self nom, PC78 (talk) 03:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. Alt: .. that Dream Cinema is the last remaining single screen movie theater in Seoul, but it is about to close? – RyanCross (talk) 18:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Izzat Darwaza (pictured), the Nablus-born Arab nationalist leader of al-Fatat, supported Palestine's union with Syria, and was a principal organizer of the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine? (self-nom) --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Andreas Lauritz Thune, who took over the manufacturing company Thune at the age of twenty-three, was among the founders of the Federation of Norwegian Manufacturing Industries in 1889? -- self-nom Punkmorten (talk) 09:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Beast vocalist Béatrice Bonifassi sang on Champion's album, Chill'em All and also provided the singing voices for Les Triplettes de Belleville? -- new article self-nom by Marchije (talk) 23:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the United States Marine Corps celebrates its birthday on 10 November each year with a birthday ball, on the anniversary of the day that the 2nd Continental Congress authorized the creation of the Continental Marines? --new article, self-nom by bahamut0013♠♣ 05:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Where should "(pictured)" be placed? --74.13.125.55 (talk) 17:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Australian band Spy vs Spy had to change its name to avoid legal action from the publishers of Mad magazine? --substantially rewritten/expanded article, self-nom by McWomble (talk) 05:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Verified (good job, mate!). Ecoleetage (talk) 04:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 7

• ... that on July 8, 1942, pitcher Doyle Lade threw a no-hitter and won the game 1–0, with his solo home run providing the only run support for his team? (self-nom, tried to avoid argon where I could, hope it's good. Wizardman 03:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC))

• ... that the only significant Koreatown established by Koreans in Spain is in Las Palmas on the island of Gran Canaria? New article by CaliforniaAliBaba; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Rolling Stone magazine panned Jack Bruce's LP, Songs for a Tailor in 1969, but later praised it in 1971? -- new article by User:Moonriddengirl; nom by Bruce1ee^talk 07:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Not all that interesting, IMO, considering that a review does not represent the magazine's opinion but the reviewer's opinion and thus it's a given that different reviewers would think differently. It's not entirely uninteresting, though, if there isn't another potential hook. —97198 (talk) 11:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that Jack Bruce's 1969 LP, Songs for a Tailor was titled in tribute to Jeannie Franklyn, the wardrobe designer for Bruce's former band, Cream? -- new article by User:Moonriddengirl; nom by --Bruce1ee^talk 11:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 1999 book, "The Lore and Legends of Fly-Fishing" noted that the Royal Coachman (pictured), first made in 1878, may be the world's best-known fly? new article by Mike Cline (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 20:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:GayKids omslag forside.jpg

• ... that Norwegian researchers published Gay Kids in November 2008 to educate children about homosexual love? new article by Meco (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 17:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • I removed the fair use image from this; can't put fair use media on the front page. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Other than that, this is fine. Length and hook verified, foreign langauge ref accepted in good faith. On a side note, is it just me, or are there ten times as many Norwegian refs as any other language around here? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 19:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    • That resembles this FAQ. Art LaPella (talk) 02:13, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the force-feeding (pictured) of suffragette, arsonist and hunger-striker Lilian Lenton caused food to enter her lungs and led to public outrage? new article by Jack1956 (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

- length and ref fine Victuallers (talk) 18:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Sperm Whaling (pictured) developed after a semi-liquid, waxy substance found in an area known as the sperm whale's "junk" became popular for use in soaps, cosmetics and lubricants? new article by Rlendog (talk · contribs), nom by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 00:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Reminds me of "Whatcha gonna do with all that junk, All that junk inside that trunk?" In any event, it looks like some of the material for the new article came from here. Usually for DYK, the material should be new to article namespace. -- Suntag ☼ 03:35, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like you're right, Suntag. I hadn't noticed that it was derived from a prior article. I did like the double-entendre of it all, though.Cbl62 (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that among other methods, Archaeoparasitologists study historical human parasites by looking for references to them in art and literature? - article by Mgrien, nom by Olaf Davis | Talk 16:05, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool hook and article. Length and date good, offline hook accepted AGF. — BillC ^talk 02:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I just suggested a combined hook down at Paleoparasitology, see below. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that lice from mummified guinea pigs and mites preserved in amber while feeding on spiders have provided evidence for researchers in the field of paleoparasitology? ~ New article by Mgrien; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC). There is a similar article on a related topic, Archaeoparasitology, so there may be double-hook potential and/or a hook to be found in that one. Refs [26] and [31] refer.
  • (alt, combined:) ... that paleoparasitologists and archaeoparasitologists study the parasites of the past, using evidence varying from lice on mummified guinea pigs, to facial deformities represented on Mochica pottery? This hook is 202 characters, but whatevs. Length and refs for both articles have been verified, I just need someone else to tick this since I shouldn't tick my own hook... —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I removed a stray "and", so it's unquestionably <200 now :) ~ Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Ghost Town Trail in Western Pennsylvania utilizes 36 miles of donated and abandoned railroad and features many abandoned mining ghost towns? Creation self-nom. Grsz^{11 →Review!} 02:04, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Article and refs are good, but I'm confused about the numbers. Ghost Town Trail#Development says length is 16 + 4 + 20 = 40 miles, and it doesn't specify that the last 20 miles were "donated" (it says that line had been abandoned). Clarify that stuff in the article and then we should be able to verify this. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I'd actually like to withhold until I'm done with it, as I have a lot more info to add. Sorry I jumped the gun. Grsz^{11 →Review!} 03:04, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
      • No problem with that, as long as it's done within the next 5 days! —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
        • Let me know how it reads now. I'm not sure what I meant either ;) Grsz^{11 →Review!} 03:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
          • Looks good. I added a bit to clarify the original length. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 13:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Asher Roth, a hip hop musician from suburban Pennsylvania, raps about "pizza a dollar a slice"? - self nom by Boston (talk) 01:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Article is too short. (Granted, it was longer before I chopped most of it out, but I believe most of that chopping was necessary.) Also, article is currently tagged for having too many SPSs (again, the tag is my doing, but again I think it belongs there). Notify us if the article is expanded and refs improved within the next couple days. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:57, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I removed the PSP tag because I removed the last of the SPS references. There's plenty of material from interviews that can be added to the article to meet length requirements, but I would like to know there are no points of contention to be addressed before I proceed. Thanks. - Boston (talk) 20:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
      • Maybe SPS was the wrong tag to go with. You have removed the sources from Roth's own website, true, but a lot of the sources given are still not reliable sources as they are from blogs or other places without reliable standards. Specifically, ref 2 is some kind of blog, ref 3 is some kind of something bad (I don't know if it's technically a blog or messageboard or what), ref 4 is some kind of blog, and ref 7 is an online video by some guys (maybe they are notable and maybe they aren't, I don't know; I left the ref in to give it the benefit of the doubt, but it still contributes to why the tag is there). I've replaced {{self-published}} in the article with {{primarysources}}; either way, the underlying message is still that there are problems with the sources being used.
      • On the bright side, after your recent edits the article is long enough again, just barely. But I still think the sources are a serious problem. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 20:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Beninese political figure Justin Ahomadégbé-Tomêtin remained under house arrest from 1972 to 1981 after being overthrown in a coup d'état? Expansion by ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 01:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, hook, refs verified. But the article doesn't say much about Ahomadegbe-Tometin's deposition and house arrest other than a single sentence in the lead-in; can you expand on that a bit in the main article? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 20:20, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I'll be working on this as a side job after I bring Hubert Maga to FA status. I guess I'll look for info on the coup. ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 01:38, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Charles Taylor was the first of thirteen Welsh international players to die in action during World War I? Self nom -- FruitMonkey (talk) 00:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Hook is uncited, nominator informed. Length and date are good. — BillC ^talk 10:37, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    • In second reference, BBC article, 'Rugby Heroes who went to War', very last paragraph states he was the first player to lose his life in the conflict. Is that OK? FruitMonkey (talk) 10:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks. It's still a little under-referenced. Can you find some more? I tried, but was unsuccessful. How reliable is the BBC link? It looked somewhat like they were posting the essay of a member of the public. — BillC ^talk 00:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
        • I've now added further references for his RN career. David Underdown (talk) 12:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
          • Thanks David. Have found another article from the Welsh Rugby Union that states he was first Welsh international killed in action. Have added link to article's opening. ref 3 at present. FruitMonkey (talk) 18:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite having only 28 men to his opponent's 92, William Rogers (pictured) not only defended his ship from a privateer, but boarded and captured her with just five men? - new article, self nom. Two image options, one of the man, the other of him in the thick of it. Benea (talk) 23:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length and hook verified, offline ref accepted in good faith. I think the first picture is much more interesting. Message about referencing left at nominator's talk page. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 00:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Not sure what I should do about the "pictured" in this hook. Put after "captured her with just five men" and word it as something like (battle pictured)? Or just lose the picture... —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Little Pied Cormorant (pictured) lays eggs that are covered in lime? ..exp 5x (157-->785 words) by casliber (talk · contribs)
  • Offline ref accepted in good faith, length verified (expansion is just over 5x). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 23:50, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Five-fold length, date, image license verified (snippet in another book and others confirm hook). -SusanLesch (talk) 23:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ernest Peixotto was the first person to note the usage of the ethnic slur "spic" in writing? (self-nom) Howcheng (talk · contribs) 22:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

My reading of the article and the ref is that he was was the first to use the term in his book (with this pronunciation) ...not that he noted its usage... am I missing something? Victuallers (talk) 23:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

How about: ... that Ernest Peixotto's 1916 work Our Hispanic Southwest was the first appearance of the ethnic slur "spic" in writing? howcheng {chat} 03:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

- 2nd hook fine - thx Victuallers (talk) 18:07, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Thaddeus Fairbanks

• ... that the first platform scale was built in 1830 by Thaddeus Fairbanks (pictured) to measure large loads accurately? new article, self nom by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 21:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date, ref verified. Suggest you change "measure accurately large loads" to "measure large loads accurately", since this version is a bit confusing. Chamal ^talk 12:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Changed to "measure large loads accurately" as was suggested. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that David Morrissey gained 2 stone (13 kg) for his role as Gordon Brown in The Deal? - article created by Deb, expanded and nom by Bradley0110 (talk) 21:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Date, expansion and ref verified. That is a beautiful article, definitely deserves a spot on the Main Page. Creator doesn't need credit because that was in May 2004. Also, just wondering if there's a conversion template to give stone/kg/pounds... are Americans familiar with these mass units? —97198 (talk) 11:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that HMS Hinchinbrook was Horatio Nelson's second navy command, and his first as post-captain? - new article, self nom, Benea (talk) 20:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that editor Kenneth P. Johnson, who ran a story that led to the article subject's suicide as threatened, stated that "if a story is newsworthy and supported by the facts, it is our policy to publish"? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 20:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Date, length and refs are good. A nice hook (not sure whether it'd be insensitive for me to chuckle a little at this). —97198 (talk) 11:37, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Tropical Depression One-C of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season caused minor flooding on the Island of Hawaii? self-nom Cyclonebiskit (talk) 19:17, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Amy Peterson competed in the first five Olympics where short track speed skating was a sport? five times expansion and nominated by Eóin (talk) 19:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 2005, Shannon Sohn became the first helicopter news reporter to win a national Emmy Award, which she won for her coverage of the crash of the helicopter of a rival TV station? -- (same last name, but no relation) new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 16:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook verified. I like the irony in the hook. -- Suntag ☼ 18:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the football rivalry between ASV Herzogenaurach and FC Herzogenaurach hailed from the rivalry between the clubs' sponsors, two local Herzogenaurach companies, Adidas and Puma? self-nom, new article EA210269 (talk) 10:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Confederate Memorial in Fulton, Kentucky is the only one in the state with a statue atop an arch? (created by --Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 06:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• The source statement "The arched base, constructed from rough-hewn limestone, is unique among Kentucky memorials. The zinc statue it supports is typical of stock soldier figures: wearing a uniform with slouch hat and holding a rifle down in front. The soldier also wears a bedroll and canteen."[1] does not seem to say why the arched base is unique. -- Suntag ☼ 15:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• I backed the quote up with the NRHP Nomination form, that is the opnly such monument in Kentucky.--Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 15:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Length and date verified, hook verified from the article itself. -- Suntag ☼ 18:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Is there any way to combine this hook with the hook for Confederate Memorial Gateway in Hickman below? There are a whole bunch of hooks here on Confederate memorials and I don't know if it's a good idea to have the same topic represented over and over for several updates in a row...if someone can find something in common between this article and that one below, I think it would be beneficial to combine them into one hook. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 06:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Do you have some bias or something? They are one a day, so they are spread out; there won't be one every update. Sheesh.--Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 07:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
• ADDENDUM: Months back, someone had NINE separate hooks in a row, all about a different climatic region of Oregon's. We used them all. Therefore, nothign wronf with 5-6 WNA memorials that are spaced out along a week's time.--Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 07:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• I'm not being biased against your hooks, I'm just suggesting a way to get some hooks done faster and help clear up the backlog while keeping from having very similar things featured several times in a row. The reason I challenged your earlier hook wasn't because I'm biased against these (in fact, as I said, I think you did a good job writing that article), but just because I didn't think the topic of the hook was notable. If no one wants to combine them, fine, it was just a suggestion; there's no need to get all worried about unfair treatment. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that only nine goaltenders have scored a goal in an NHL game? -- new article self-nom by Maxim_(talk) 03:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 03:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Perhaps: ... that only nine goaltenders have scored a goal in a National Hockey League game? (for all those living outside North America) —97198 (talk) 09:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. I prefer this one since having "hockey" directly displayed in the hook provides context. -- Suntag ☼ 21:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that hardly anyone in France knew the shape of their country until the Tour de France began publishing maps of its route? (self-nom) Les woodland (talk) 05:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)les woodland

No qualifying article. —97198 (talk) 11:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The BankWest Tower in Perth, Western Australia

• ... that when completed in 1988, the 52-storey BankWest Tower in Perth, Western Australia (pictured) was the eighth tallest concrete skyscraper in the world? -- de-stubbed (5x) article, self-nom by Mark 16:02, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• 5X expansion (from 1,722 to 10,205) and November 7 date verified, hook verified from the article itself. Free use of image verified from the Image:Bankwest Tower.jpg image page. -- Suntag ☼ 19:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that FPSBanana, one of the largest video game websites still online, holds over 245,500 users? Created on 23:02, 6 November 2008 and self-nom by Jscorp (talk) 03:43, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Administrative Department of the Presidency of the Republic is the executive agency in charge of assisting the President of Colombia in the exercise of his duties? -- self-nom by mijotoba (talk) 16:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Sheffield Iris newspaper's first editor fled the UK when troops tried to arrest him, and its second was imprisoned for six months on charges of malicious libel? 09:56, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Nominator is Warofdreams (talk · contribs). —97198 (talk) 11:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you - very silly of me. It's largely a self-nom, although User:Francium12 created the article. Warofdreams talk 15:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 6

• ... that Rheinmetall's 120-millimeter (4.7 in) L/55 tank gun can attain muzzle velocities of up to 1,750 meters per second (5,700 ft/s) with new kinetic energy penetrators? JonCatalán^(Talk) 05:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC) It's not yet up to standards, but I wanted to get it on here before it became 11 November. This article will meet the requirements before it has a chance to get on the main page (tomorrow morning; it just needs further expansion of 2kB to meet the 5x requirement). By tomorrow it will probably be 30kB+ (over the 5x mark). This will be plenty of time, and will be before this even gets on the main page. JonCatalán^(Talk) 05:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Wonderland Greyhound Park was constructed on the site of the former Wonderland Amusement Park in Revere, Massachusetts? Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Alternate hook: ...that Wonderland Greyhound Park in Revere, Massachusetts features over Template:Unit mile of underground piping which heats the race track on cold and wet days? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Edi Gathegi fell into acting when he took up an undergraduate acting class as an "easy course" after sustaining a basketball injury? Fivefold expansion by Sergay (talk · contribs) and myself. —97198 (talk) 10:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Cornelius DeLameter (pictured) operated a foundry known as the "Asylum" where the first iron steamboat, The Iron Witch, and the machinery for the ironclad warship USS Monitor were built? new article by Hixguy1 (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 19:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that inventor Stuart Macrae's book "Winston Churchill's Toyshop" details his work during World War II developing secret weapons including the limpet mine and the sticky bomb? new article by Gaius Cornelius (talk · contribs) and cbl62 (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 18:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the occurrence of a 1970 Tonghai earthquake (location pictured) was covered up by Chinese authorities because it occurred during the Cultural Revolution? New article by User:Ceranthor, expanded by Ceranthor and ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 23:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Everything seems to check out. This hook, though, is a moderately inflammatory one (it doesn't offend me, but some people react strongly to this kind of stuff) and I wouldn't want to post it without being sure that it's verified and widely accepted. As of now, the refs that might verify this are non-free archived news stories, so I can't verify this unless you can get access to those refs and see if the coverup is definitely factual and widely accepted, as opposed to probable/alleged. (If there is a statement from the government admitting there was a coverup, that would be even better.) And if you can find that, it would be good to quote it in the footnote. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:10, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    • The non-free archived sources have free introductory paragraphs, which verifies the hook. This is an accepted fact of the quake. ~the editorofthewiki ^{(talk/contribs/editor review)}~ 00:17, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
      • This reference verifies the cover-up statement. Cunard (talk) 04:56, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
        • Sorry to disagree, but I don't think a single article that happens to mention a coverup is enough yet to excuse the possibly inflammatory wording of the hook. Keep in mind that the people who might be offended by the hook (lots of Chinese citizens) are often the very same people who don't trust a lot of Western news sources (such as the Philadelphia Inquirer) and might not just roll over and say, "Ok, because your one newspaper article says our government does this bad thing, I accept it." I am not at all trying to say that your hook is incorrect...I'm just saying that, given its nature, I think we need more robust sources before putting it on the main page. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs
        • I just noticed the NYT source in the article, which should help things a bit. Currently we have a single sentence in that source ("Chinese officials today disclosed for the first time that an earthquake in southern Yunnan Province in 1970 killed about 10,000 people."), a single sentence from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch ("More than 15,000 people died in the 1970 earthquake that was barely mentioned by the country's official news service." -- note: that sentence doesn't verify "coverup," it just says that Xinhua didn't go out of its way to publicize the quake, whereas "coverup" implies that people specifically asked about it and the government tried to hide it), and a single sentence from the source Cunard mentioned above ("government-controlled newspapers and officials have broken decades of silence on the extent of the disaster"). The first and third sentences I've quoted here are better (as far as verifying is concerned) than the second. Anyway, I will leave it up to other reviewers here to decide if that is enough verification; you guys all already know where I stand on the issue. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:44, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1969 Toyota Motor Corporation imported McLaren M12s and installed their own V8 engines in a bid to better compete against Nissan in Japanese Group 7 races? (self-nom) The359 (talk) 05:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt hook) ... that when the new Chaparral 2H Can-Am race car did not meet driver John Surtees' satisfaction, he demanded his team purchase a McLaren M12 from their competitors? The359 (talk) 05:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that because Fred Perrett switched from rugby union to rugby league he was often left out of lists of Wales players who died in action during World War I? Self nom -- FruitMonkey (talk) 00:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that actor Nate Parker was an All-American wrestler in both high school and college?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• I count 1,365 characthers and at least 1,500 are needed. -- Suntag ☼ 15:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• It should be fine now.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 04:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that hardly anyone in France knew the shape of their country until the Tour de France began publishing maps of its route? (self-nom) Les woodland (talk) 05:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)les woodland

No qualifying article. Also, nom duplicated under "Articles created/expanded on November 7" above. -- Suntag ☼ 15:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ranulf le Meschin ruled Cumbria before becoming Earl of Chester in 1120? (self-nom) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• The only thing in the article I could find about Cumbria is "Ranulf's accession may have involved him giving up many of his other lands, including much of his wife's Lincolnshire lands and his land in Cumbria, though direct evidence for this beyond convenient timing is lacking." -- Suntag ☼ 15:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• There is a whole section devoted to his rule of Cumbria before becoming earl of Chester. You are right though that, contrary to what many often say, there is little evidence that he had to give up rule of Cumbria for Chester (may have happened later). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Grace Church

• ... that Grace Church (pictured) is the only remaining structure from the once-thriving town of Ca Ira, Virginia? (self-nom) --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 02:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• The source says "is one of the only remaining buildings of Ca Ira." -- Suntag ☼ 15:55, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry - thought the source mentioned something about it being the only remaining original building. (It's been in userspace for a couple of weeks.) Revised hook follows.

ALT1... that Grace Church (pictured) is one of few remaining structures from the once-thriving town of Ca Ira, Virginia? --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 18:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

For ALT1, length, date, and hook verified. -- Suntag ☼ 18:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

for the image. The upload information says "Image taken by me for Wikipedia" however the camera metadata says "Copyright holder Copyright 1,1999", which was before Wikipedia came into existence. Image:NicholasMukomberanwa.jpg, which AlbertHerring uploaded is Public Domain tagged but the image upload notes have a copyright symbol and clearly say "All other uses require prior written permission." -- Suntag ☼ 18:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm willing to bet the camera metadata is a bug from the user's camera; likely the result of a date reset. 1, 1999 either means Jan. 1999 or something else weird, which would indicate the date was likely reset. The "copyright" is probably something else specific to that camera. I'd check other images that come from the Zoran Coach 1.0. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 19:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Richard Rompala increased Valspar's overseas revenues from 3% to almost 30% in his decade-long tenure? new-article self-nom —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 01:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• The press release[2] says "In the mid-1990s Valspar began an aggressive international expansion, which over the following ten years increased its overseas sales from 3 percent to more than 30 percent of overall sales." Also, the DYK hook should be source to a secondary source that is independent of the article's topics. -- Suntag ☼ 16:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• If you check further down (look at the first paragraph of "Key Acquisitions of Rompala Era"), it directly attributes their overseas expansion to Rompala. As to a secondary source... I'll try to check LexisNexis for additional corroboration. If nothing else I'll just write a new hook. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 18:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Also, I'm not entirely sure referenceforbusiness.com counts as a primary source; if you look at the bottom of the page, they do list their references (though, of course, there aren't any inline refs). —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 18:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC) Sorry, that's a further reading section- I misread. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 18:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Length and date verified. Sufficient reliable source material used (e.g., it's not all press releases). However, Rompala must have had help in the increase while he was in his decade-long tenure. How about ALT1 ... that overseas revenues rose from 3% in the mid-1990s to almost 30% during the ten years that Richard Rompala helped lead paint and coatings manufacturer Valspar? -- Suntag ☼ 17:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand that alt hook. Assuming you meant "helped lead paint and coatings manufacturer Valspar", it seems inconsistent with the objection that it's intended to satisfy. "Rompala must have had help in the increase ... " from his employees, so perhaps we shouldn't give Rompala all the credit. But "help[ed] lead paint and coatings manufacturer Valspar" says he had help leading the company, not help from employees. Actually, according to the article he was president, CEO and chairman, which made him undisputed leader. Art LaPella (talk) 22:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Your assumption about "helped is correct (I changed it above). The ALT1 hook was meant to convey that the rise from 3% began while Rompala helped lead the company. Being the leader while a rise occurs allows for others to have had help in the increase. Rompala was elected president of Valspar May 1994 and he assumed the position of CEO on October 30, 1995. The rise from 3% began in the mid-1990s. If the mid-1990s began on or after the day that Rompala was the undisputed leader, then my ALT1 suggestion would be incorrect. -- Suntag ☼ 19:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Phew, well... honestly I've been having trouble finding further attribution of Rompala's role in bringing about this change. I think the ALT1 would be appropriate- as to Rompala's leadership, he was president starting in 1994, CEO in 1995 and chairman in 1998. I think the "helped" phrase is extremely appropriate, especially considering Wurtele was chairman from '73 until Rompala took over. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 05:32, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in November 1864 Camp Nelson′s Union soldiers forced 400 ex-slaves outside its shelter, resulting in 102 exposure deaths? (created by --Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 23:37, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Lenght and date verified. The reference seems to say 102 deaths, not 103.[3] -- Suntag ☼ 01:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks. Corrected.--Gen. Bedford ^{his Forest} 01:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Lenght date, and reference verified. -- Suntag ☼ 15:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Commission on Social Welfare, from 1983 to 1986, reviewed social welfare in Ireland? new article, self-nom Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 22:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. Was pretty easy to review since the first sentence was used as the hook. – RyanCross (talk) 02:47, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• It's not a very exciting topic, yes :(. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 03:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

No offense but this hook is too boring. It wouldn't be unusual for a Commission on Social Welfare to review social welfare. Please come up with something more interesting.Nrswanson (talk) 01:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that American Joe Lutz became the first foreigner to manage a team in Japanese professional baseball when he was selected to manage the Hiroshima Carp in 1975? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Lenght date, and reference verified. Thanks for adding the DYK hook verifying quote in footnote 5. That made things much easier. -- Suntag ☼ 16:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Soviet defector Boris Bazhanov became the only assistant at Joseph Stalin's secretariat to ever turn against the Soviet regime? -- new article self-nom by -- Suntag ☼ 22:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
  • chg'd turned -> turn. Alansohn (talk) 22:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Captain Charles Cunningham (pictured) struck a decisive blow against the mutineers at the Nore when he sailed his ship to Sheerness? - new article, self nom, Benea (talk) 21:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the successful escape from the multi-ship mutiny at the Nore by Royal Navy Captain Charles Cunningham (pictured) in 1797 led to that mutiny's failure? -- Suntag ☼ 16:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the small town of Almoloya del Río (pop. 7,992) in central Mexico hosts an international biker rally every year? -- new article, self-nom by Thelmadatter (talk) 16:59, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the German football club TSV Gerbrunn, despite losing the 2003 Bavarian Cup final by a record 0–14, still advanced to the 2003-04 German Cup, where it again lost 0–14 and was knocked-out? -- new article, self-nom by EA210269 (talk) 11:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ropar Wetland, (pictured) has ecological diversity with at least 9 mammal, 154 bird (migratory and local), 35 fish, 9 arthropod, 11 rotifer, 9 crustacean and 10 protozoan species?--Nvvchar (talk) 10:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Nepenthes northiana

• ... that Victorian plant collector, Charles Curtis, who first introduced the pitcher plant, Nepenthes northiana (pictured), to England, went on to become the first superintendent of the Penang Botanic Gardens? -- new articles, self-nom by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• The Charles Curtis article sentence "Unfortunately, the first consignment of plants collected was lost due to the treachery of a native servant ..." appears to be copied from orchids.co.in. -- Suntag ☼ 17:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Now re-worded, although most of the content of orchids.co.in itself has been copied verbatim from other sources. (some of the typos and mis-spellings are outrageous!). --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 19:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• Someone else should be along to complete the DYK review. -- Suntag ☼ 14:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henry Fitz was the first American to make refractor telescopes and constructed the largest refracting telescopes in America on five different occasions? new article, self nominated by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 00:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, hook, and refs all good. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Miguel Ramón Izquierdo was the last Francoist mayor of Valencia, Spain and secured the transfer of the Turia River gardens from the Spanish crown to local administration? new article, self-nom by Valenciano Valenciano (talk) 19:41, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

• Congrats everyone for helping clear the backlog! Gatoclass (talk) 02:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 5

• ... that in 2000, Megan Seefeldt of Kutztown University became the first woman in the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference to win an individual title? article by Btrobinson (talk · contribs) nomination by Parthian Scribe 17:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • That hook is wildly inaccurate (the PSAC had been around for decades before that and other people had been winning it, just no one from Kutztown). It should read: ...that in 2000, Megan Seefeldt became the first Kutztown University cross-country runner to win the women's race at the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference champships? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    • And, at the same time, I have to reject my own alternate hook because it's not notable. I ran cross-country and I know the PSAC is tough (actually, a former teammate of mine won it twice[4]), but the fact alone that a woman from Kutztown won it once doesn't really make it notable; people win conference championships every year! If Seefeldt had won D2 nationals or even regionals, maybe I could reconsider. Anyway, please suggest an alternate hook. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Charles Shorey House

• ... that the historic Charles Shorey House (pictured) mixes both gambrel and gable roofs? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 07:29, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. I also made some tweaks to the article. – RyanCross (talk) 02:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that The Finnish Association of Graduate Engineers is a trade union which requires its full members to have at least a master's degree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MPorciusCato (talk • contribs)

Whose nom is this? --74.14.18.233 (talk) 21:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Looks like it's MPorciusCato's. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 22:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Does "Graduate" already mean people with a master's or doctor's degree? Are they rejecting applications for membership from people who got straight to a PhD program after undergraduate, skipping the master's? --74.14.18.233 (talk) 14:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

In Finland, it is impossible to skip the master's. Foreign PhDs with such qualifications would be allowed, I think. On the other hand, it was possible until 2005 to skip the bachelor's degree. The study to master's degree without a bachelor took five years after high school graduation. (BTW, I edited this nomination a little.) --MPorciusCato (talk) 15:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Given that it's a grad association, requiring a master's degree seems like a no-brainer. Can you suggest a more interesting hook? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:47, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the history of San Diego State University some students joined the armed forces during World War II and assisted in the Doolittle Raid over Japan? New article, self-nom. Nehrams2020 (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt. hook) ... that during the history of San Diego State University several students attempted to pull a prank by dumping marshmallows from a plane, but accidentally crashed the plane on campus instead? New article, self-nom. Nehrams2020 (talk) 19:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Length and history verified; offline reference accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 03:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Livermore, Pennsylvania was abandoned in the early 1950s so that the area could be made into a reservoir to prevent flooding to Pittsburgh? — expansion, self nom, Grsz^{11 →Review!} 05:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, only a 3.5x expansion at approx 1531 > 5407 characters. —97198 (talk) 05:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ann Nixon Cooper, the subject of Barack Obama's presidential acceptance speech, served for more than fifty years in public work on the board of Gate City Nursery Association? - Article by User:Anoopkn, nominated by: --Flewis^(talk) 01:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Article has only 1196 characters (201 words). Chamal ^talk 04:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Expanded - Current character count: 2588 --Flewis^(talk) 07:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

• Expansion verified. References and hook look good.Nrswanson (talk) 07:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

See also

• User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).