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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on May 21

• ... that Mukti Bahini guerrillas were absorbed into the ranks of regular military officers and personnel upon the formation of Bangladesh's armed forces in 1971-72? Vishnava_(talk) 00:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the Battle of Ridgefield on April 27, 1777, Benedict Arnold (pictured) survived unharmed after being dismounted and pinned to the ground when his horse fell from nine musket wounds from a distance of only thirty yards? Daamien (talk) 03:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 20

• ...that Mary Shelley's 1820 children's story Maurice was lost until 1997? (self-nom) new article Awadewit (talk) 03:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Sir William Horrocks, British Army officer and father of Lieutenant-General Sir Brian Horrocks, confirmed Sir David Bruce's theory that Malta fever was spread through goat's milk? New article created by Harlsbottom, nominated by Ian Rose. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Captain Andrew Offutt Monument barely mentioning Sherman's March to the Sea makes it only one of two Civil War related monuments in Kentucky to stress strong Union sentiment? (self-nom)--Bedford ^Pray 00:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 9th century Navalinga temples in Karnataka, India, is a cluster of nine Hindu temples, each containing a Shiva linga?(self nom) Dineshkannambadi (talk) 23:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Dictionary of Information Security by Robert Slade has five forewords? -self-nom, new article.

Minor disclaimer re: COI, once in the past week I saw an editor mention WP:COI here because they were related to the subject of their article: Mr. Slade mentioned me in one of his books, not this one, and besides one or two emails, I have never met him. Thanks. —SusanLesch (talk) 22:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that World War II fighter ace Franz Barten is credited for shooting down a total of 55 enemy aircraft?

or,

• • ... that World War II fighter ace Franz Barten, who is credited for shooting down 55 enemy aircrafts, was posthumously awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross? (new article, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 21:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in the primaries for the 2002 Oregon gubernatorial election candidates included one who called himself the flying governor? Self nom Davewild (talk) 21:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the annual Greasestock festival in New York showcases vegetable powered vehicles and other green technologies, such as biodiesel cars, solar powered cars, home heating alternatives, and organic farming exhibits? Feel free to suggest alt. hook and/or rewrite... Self nom by MrPrada (talk) 20:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Zygmunt Rumel, a talented Polish poet and soldier of the Bataliony Chlopskie, was murdered in 1943 during the Massacres of Poles in Volhynia? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 20:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that in an uncommon job for women, Mary Herwerth was appointed lighthouse keeper at Bluff Point Light on Valcour Island upon the death of her husband while on duty in 1881? self nom, new article _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

(alt hook)*... that Major William Herwerth died while on duty as lighthouse keeper at Bluff Point Light in 1881? new, self nom _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Jabalpur and the Mandla districts in Madhya Pradesh were the worst affected districts in the 1997 Jabalpur earthquake? (new article, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Crown Point Light, constructed as a conventional lighthouse, was rebuilt in 1912 as a monument to Samuel de Champlain's explorations? expanded, self-nom. Mangoe (talk) 18:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Bangladeshi intelligence agencies are accused of maintaining ties with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence and militant groups such as the United Liberation Front of Assam? Vishnava_(talk) 18:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• I think this is a POV. They are accused by who? Accused by Indian intelligence? Have they admitted to have a tie with ISI? If not, then why would a POV allegation be an interesting fact? --Ragib (talk) 18:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it is a loaded statement. Thus, I've changed the nom altogether. Vishnava_(talk) 18:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC

New version *... that Bangladeshi intelligence agencies are responsible for gathering foreign intelligence, military intelligence as well as monitoring internal security? Vishnava_(talk) 18:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The new version sounds fine by me. --Ragib (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that The Metros are a five-piece punk/pop band from Peckham, south London, England who were formerly known as The Wanking Skankers? (new article self nom, Neıl 龱 15:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC))

• How about: ... that The Metros, a five-piece punk/pop band from Peckham, south London, were formerly known as The Wanking Skankers? It's slightly better wording. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 17:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Radha Ramana is the only image of Krishna that remained in Vrindavana during the seventeenth century iconoclastic raids by Islamic king Aurangzeb? Wikidās ॐ 21:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 19

• ... that Joshua Packwood is the first white man to graduate as valedictorian of the all-male HBCU, Morehouse College, an overwhelmingly African American university in Atlanta, Georgia, United States? -- new article created following massive press coverage of the event. created may 19 by Daimerej.Latinlover-sa (talk) 00:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the Nootka Crisis of 1789–90 marked the beginning of the end of the Spanish Empire? -- new article (was a redirect to Nootka Convention) and self-nom by Pfly (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that with his 1973 collection of short stories Espace, Tunisian author Mahmoud Tounsi paved the way to the avant-garde movement? New article by I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 22:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the manor in Norbury in Derbyshire is owned by the National Trust, but is rented out to tenants? by User:Ning-ning and User:Victuallers (created on 15th but expanded more than 5 fold since the 19th) Victuallers (talk) 22:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the steamship Olympia of the Alaska Steamship Company ran aground on Bligh Reef in 1910? -self nom --Cryptic C62 · Talk 21:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the baesuk is a Korean traditional fruit punch made by simmering slices of Korean pear, black peppercorns, ginger, honey or sugar, and water? -Self-nom--Appletrees (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Nice article on a much needed area, but I am not sure about using another encyclopedia as a source. Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#History says: "General encyclopedias, like the Encyclopedia Britannica or Encarta, sometimes have authoritative signed articles written by specialists and including references. However, unsigned entries are written in batches by freelancers and must be used with caution." --BorgQueen (talk) 16:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
    • ???? The references which you're mentioning are Korean encyclopedia with high credential in South Korea. The articles are written by a lot of Korean experts and scholars, not written by just some freelancers or bloggers. Since Korean cuisine is not introduced to the West as much as those of Chinese/Japanese/Vietnamese/Thai cuisines, English resources are scarce except well known dishes. If I create or expand Korean related articles to some quality from stubs, I have to use very good Korean sources. I think you mistake the hosted portals such as naver and empas with the main information providers from the encyclopedias; Doosan Encyclopedia, EncyKorea. Besides, even Korean branches of Britannica, or Pascal do not state writers' names on their articles but emphasize the brand name. I think it is a cultural difference, not arguable distrust. I don't see what is problem with my writing except minor grammatical errors.--Appletrees (talk) 16:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I was under the impression that general encyclopedias are not considered as best references, as it is written on the page I linked above. But I just realized that the page is not a guideline or policy... I suppose it is fine to use them as long as it does not contradict other sources. (No, I am not confusing those portals with the encyclopedias.) As I said, you've written a nice article. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the population dynamics of fisheries is a discipline used by fisheries scientists to determine sustainable levels of fishing? Self-nom, --Geronimo20 (talk) 07:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the famine of 1873–74 in Bihar, India was less severe than had originally been anticipated, and 100,000 tons of grain was left unused at the end of the relief efforts? -- new article by Fowler&fowler (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the celebrated Canadian broadcaster Linden MacIntyre (pictured) wrote his memoir during a fifty-day lockout at the CBC? Self-nom, Verne Equinox (talk) 02:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that founder of the Tunis School of painting Abdelaziz Gorgi began his career in France? Self nom by I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 01:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Nona L. Brooks, a founder of the Church of Divine Science and leader in the New Thought religious movement, was the first woman pastor in Denver, Colorado? Built off a redirect, self-nom by Madman (talk) 01:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Hall of Fame basketball coach Clarence "Big House" Gaines was originally planning to become a dentist before taking on a temporary coaching job that ended up lasting 47 years? -- Originally created by Bender235; article fivefold expanded and self-nominated by Bobak (talk) 23:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that independent film actress Tanna Frederick hustled a film director for a job by praising a film of his—one she had not actually seen? -- self-nom Fullstop (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 1957 nonfiction novel Operación Masacre (pictured) by Rodolfo Walsh was published nine years before Truman Capote's In Cold Blood, which is frequently cited as creating the genre? self-nom by IronGargoyle (talk) 22:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the American Gnostic Church, which renounces Jesus, includes in its scriptures Aleister Crowley's Thelema writings, the Pistis Sophia, and the books of the Nag Hammadi library? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 22:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Inline citation, please? Thanks. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Hotel Bellevue Palace in Berne (pictured) was called "the best-protected building in Europe" by participants in Cold War negotiations? — Self-nom by  Sandstein  22:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Dutch Gift was a collection of 28 paintings (pictured) and 12 classical sculptures, along with a yacht and furniture, presented to King Charles II of England by the Dutch Republic in 1660? expansion, self-nom by Johnbod (talk) 21:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite weighing little more than a pound (454 grams), the Dutch Bantam breed of chicken (pictured) can lay more than 160 eggs in a year? Self-nom VanTucky ^{Vote in my weird poll!} 21:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that on September 23, 1868, the Revolutionary Committee of Puerto Rico led a revolt in the city of Lares, Puerto Rico, declaring it the "Republic of Puerto Rico"? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alternate) ... that on September 23, 1868, the Revolutionary Committee of Puerto Rico led a revolt in the city of Lares, Puerto Rico, in what became known as "El Grito de Lares" (The Cry of Lares)? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Narciso Bassols as Secretariat of Public Education founded Mexico's first systematic sex education program? (self nom) --Grimlight (talk) 19:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, according to one account, after Thomas Attwood accused fellow composer Charles Edward Horn of plagiarizing a song, Horn helped clear himself in court by singing his version and that of Attwood's? Self-nom. BuddingJournalist 19:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Terry Cole-Whittaker, a former Mrs. California pageant winner, later became the pastor of a church of 50 members in San Diego and increased the number of church members by several thousand? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 18:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that "Uncommon Sense" by Hal Clement received a Hugo Award for Best Short Story 51 years after it was first published? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GDallimore (Talk) 18:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that when the younger members of the Adonai-Shomo commune sued to gain ownership of part of the commune's property, they found that the money gained from selling all the land barely covered the group's debts and legal fees? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Action Hyacinth was an operation of the Polish communist police, carried out in the years 1985–1987, whose purpose was to create national database of Polish homosexuals? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 17:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that along with the existing Maharajbagh zoo, Nagpur city will have a new safari park at Gorewada Lake? --gppande «talk» 14:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Virginia Tech Hokies defeated the Louisville Cardinals 35–24 in the 2006 Gator Bowl, an American college football bowl game held on January 2, 2006? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

This hook appears to be reporting some old sports news. Anything more interesting from this annual game? --74.14.17.166 (talk) 18:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that future Admiral Sir John Moore, 1st Baronet (pictured) joined the Royal Navy when he was just 11 years old? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 00:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that security expert Dan Kaminsky demonstrated a security vulnerability by setting up Rickrolls on Facebook and PayPal? self-nom. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that some of the fingers of Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich of Russia, still with rings on them, were found in a building of the Kremlin?. self nom Miguelemejia (talk • contribs) 01:19, 19 May 2008

• ... that Bob Chatt is credited with scoring the fastest ever FA Cup Final goal from kick-off in 30 seconds for Aston Villa in 1895? self nom --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Catalan municipality of Alcanar was a part of Ulldecona for 301 years, before gaining independence in 1449? (self nomination) weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 14:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Len Boyd, captain of Birmingham City F.C. in the 1950s, once played four games with a fractured leg? -- article expanded many-fold and self-nom Struway2 (talk) 14:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Monroe News Star, a Gannett publication in Monroe, Louisiana, was formerly part of the Ewing family newspaper chain?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ken Curtis, former Gunsmoke star, made his final acting appearance as an aging rancher in the 1991 western film Conagher, costarring Sam Elliott and Katharine Ross? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Dow Ber Meisels

• ... that rabbi Dow Ber Meisels (pictured) of Kraków and Warsaw was a prominent supporter of Polish independence, including both the November and January Uprisings? self-nom by --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 22:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Time Magazine covers have featured self-portraits of director and artist Matt Mahurin, manipulated to portay himself as Sigmund Freud, a caveman and an Abu Ghraib prisoner? - article by Rezimmerman (talk · contribs), nom by Olaf Davis | Talk 20:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that it is since Jayadeva Goswami wrote a famous poem Gita Govinda in the twelfth century of the Common Era, that the topic of the spiritual loving affair between the divine Radha Krishna, has become a theme celebrated throughout India for many centuries in ritual, festival, and all the arts?

• 294 character hook. Also, "between the divine Radha Krishna" doesn't make sense in English. Between the divine Radha Krishna and whom? The article implies "Radha Krishna" means "Radha and Krishna", but Americans don't know that, and they would assume Radha Krishna is one being. Art LaPella (talk) 00:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18

Swiss Federal Palace

• ... that the federal administration of Switzerland (government buildings pictured) has been described as "seven co-existing governments" due to the absence of hierarchy in the seven-member government? — Almost completely rewritten and expanded, self-nom by  Sandstein  23:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the First Congress of Vienna was held three hundred years before the more famous Congress of Vienna? -- Theramin (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Palestinian town of Tuqu' is the birthplace of the Hebrew prophet Amos and is the site of a Byzantine church dedicated to him? Significantly expanded on May 18-19. Al Ameer son (talk) 04:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the now defunct football club Yorck Boyen Insterburg was named in honour of the two Prussian Generals Hans David Ludwig Yorck von Wartenburg and Hermann von Boyen who both fought in the Napoleonic Wars? New article created on 18 May, EA210269 (talk) 03:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that communal reservations in Tamil Nadu were first introduced by the government of the Raja of Panagal in August 1921? - expanded five-fold and self-nominated by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 16:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the FC Schalke 04 won the Gauliga Westfalen in every of its eleven seasons from 1933 to 1944? New article created on 18 May and self-nom by EA210269 (talk) 07:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Camille Le Mercier d'Erm and his colleagues formed the Breton Nationalist Party in 1911 to advocate the independence of Brittany from France? -- new article by Paul Barlow (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that nine riparian states along the Nile launched the Nile Basin Initiative in February 1999 to achieve sustainable socioeconomic development through the equitable utilization of, and benefit from, their common water resources? -- new article by Mschiffler (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ALT:... that nine riparian countries along River Nile launched the Nile Basin Initiative in February 1999 to better manage and utilize their common water resources? --74.14.17.166 (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Russian writer and activist Zoya Krakhmalnikova’s baptism in 1971 resulted in her dismissal from her job and from the USSR Union of Writers, which effectively banned her from publishing? -- new article by Scanlan (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Alexander Wilkinson managed to play 74 more first-class cricket matches despite a severely injured hand that almost had to be amputated after World War I? -- new article by Andrew nixon (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that California v. Byers was the 1971 U.S. Supreme Court decision holding that providing your information in a vehicle accident does not violate the privilege against self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment? self-nom. Legis Nuntius (talk) 23:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Buckland Windmill

• ... that the Society for the Protection of Ancient Buildings were surprised to learn of the existence of Buckland Windmill (pictured), the only wind saw mill in the United Kingdom? New article created on 18 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Brixton windmill

• ... that Brixton windmill (pictured) has not worked by wind since the 1860s? New article created on May 18 and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 20:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell

• ... that Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell (pictured) built the opera house where James Earl Jones started his career? New article, self-nominated by --Doug ^talk 19:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Rotunda Museum

• ... the Rotunda Museum (pictured) houses one of the foremost collections of Jurassic geology on the Yorkshire Coast? -- new article by Harkey Lodger; Nom by Keith D (talk) 19:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Ernie Fletcher became the first Republican Governor of Kentucky in 32 years after winning the 2003 Kentucky gubernatorial election? self-nom Davewild (talk) 18:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Patcham

• ... that the 12th-century All Saints Church, Patcham (pictured), largely unchanged since the 14th century, was rebuilt or restored four times in a 74-year period from 1824? ~ Self-nom. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Frieze of Parnassus on the Albert Memorial was inspired by Hippolyte Delaroche's Hémicycle des Beaux Arts? (self-nom) Carcharoth (talk) 14:32, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the long note, but this is a bit of an unorthodox entry. I was working on this in userspace, so technically it meets the five day criterion (I moved it into article space today), previously (see page history here) it failed the length criterion, but thanks to User:Johnbod (please give him credit as well if this entry is used), it is now 2562 characters, and may increase further. The frieze pictures are the wrong shape for DYK, but a crop could be made of one of the more famous figures if someone wants to do this. Carcharoth (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Albert Memorial

Statue of Hippolyte Delaroche seated, Frieze Facing East

Statue of Hippolyte Delaroche seated, Frieze Facing East

• (alt.hook)... the Frieze of Parnassus at the base of the Albert Memorial (pictured) was inspired by the Hémicycle des Beaux Arts by Hippolyte Delaroche, whose statue is on the east side of the frieze (also pictured, seated)? --PFHLai (talk) 07:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the influence of the Gulf Stream on the climate of Northern Ireland gives the landscape of Northern Ireland (pictured) its green colour? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today - other hook choices are possible within the article) EJF (talk) 13:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America, represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, were plantiffs in a lawsuits seeking the removal of the Mount Soledad cross? (self-nom) Neutrality^talk 03:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed the image, because it is a non-free, which we can't use here. --BorgQueen (talk) 05:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Troubled Island is an opera about the Haitian revolution leader Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who crowned himself emperor after independence was declared? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 21:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Section of Painting and Sculpture, a New Deal federal art program operated by the United States Department of the Treasury, commissioned more than 1300 murals and 300 sculptures, most of which were placed in U.S. post offices? (self-nom --JohnPomeranz (talk) 22:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC))

• ... that Buck Taylor, who has starred in more than fifty films is still best recognized for his portrayal as gunsmith-turned-deputy Newly O'Brien on the last eight seasons of CBS's long-running Gunsmoke western series?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that actor Buck Taylor, though he still appears in mostly western films, is also a prolific artist of the American West? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that actor-artist Buck Taylor recently painted a portrait of his friend and former Gunsmoke costar James Arness?-self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the French Revolution was a key factor in the resolution of the Nootka Crisis (Nootka Sound pictured), allowing the British to gain a foothold over Spain in the Pacific Northwest region of North America? (nom by Pete (talk), article by User:Pfly)

Articles created/expanded on May 17

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• ... that the Master of Anthony of Burgundy was one of the most sophisticated Flemish miniature painters of the late 15th century (picture), and may have made the first engravings for books? by User:AlbertHerring and (self-nom) Johnbod (talk) 21:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that First Lady Laura Bush serves as ambassador of The Heart Truth awareness campaign? --self nom Happyme22 (talk) 04:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the supreme god of the southern African Bushmen is Cagn, a trickster who shapeshifts into a praying mantis? -- new article self-nom by BelovedFreak 20:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Yolngu aboriginal leader, linguist and cultural advocate Raymattja Marika was Northern Territory's Australian of the Year in 2006? -- new article by Scanlan (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the ancient Greek city of Psophis was said to have been originally called Erymanthus, and its territory to have been ravaged by the Erymanthian Boar, a creature captured in the fourth Labour of Hercules? -- new article by Fordmadoxfraud (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 19th century English architect John Foulston was responsible for the construction of Union Street across marshland to unite the Three Towns which were merged a century later to become Plymouth? -- new article by Smalljim (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mary Shelley's (pictured) contributions to Lives of the Most Eminent Literary and Scientific Men are early works of feminist historiography? (self-nom) Awadewit (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• OR... that Mary Shelley's (pictured) contributions to Lives of the Most Eminent Literary and Scientific Men are the only ones by a woman to Dionysius Lardner's 133-volume Cabinet Cyclopaedia? Awadewit (talk) 23:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the accolade (pictured) was a ceremony for knighthood in the Middle Ages which today means praise or an award? --Doug ^talk 23:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

→Another Brighton & Hove church with three possible hooks:

• ... that most of the interior of the 19th-century St Patrick's Church, Hove has been rebuilt as a 22-bed night shelter which includes "MiPods", a variation on the 1970s "sleep capsule" concept?
• ... that the extent to which music was used in services in the early years at St Patrick's Church, Hove led to it being referred to mockingly as "Paddy's Music Hall"?
• ... that the north window at St Patrick's Church, Hove—a memorial to its first curate, Dr James O'Brien, and his wife—was installed 14 years before they died?

Self-nom. I don't know if the ref is good for the first (it's to the shelter's charity's own website), although it's very interesting! The second is relatively unexciting. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that an April Fool's Day "news story" which talked about bull sharks in Minnehaha Creek drew almost 1,000 hits per day to the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association's website? new article

• ALT: ... that the Nokomis East Neighborhood Association hosts a 'Night Before New Year's Eve Party' on December 30th, with a new year's countdown at 8:00 pm? new article/nom by BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 22:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that County Route S18 is one of four county routes in Orange County, California? In fact, the Santiago Canyon Road segment of CR S18 is considered of being promoted to a scenic highway. Self nomination Dabbydabby (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

  Not a five-fold expansion in last five days. (was 3,800 bytes now is 13379 bytes = 3.52x) Thingg^⊕⊗ 17:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Not a five-fold expansion in last five days. (But once again we don't count the whole article. But 3606/1594=2.48x isn't enough either.) Art LaPella (talk) 19:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    • How about now? Currently, the whole article size is 16,073 bytes. Dabbydabby (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    It probably won't be used (yet). Once again, we don't count the whole article; we only count "prose". For more details see #Instructions. 5231/1594=3.28. Art LaPella (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

    Well I've added in all I can about CR S18. I've pulled out every internet source I could find. If this still isn't enough for the five fold, oh well... I'll just find another article to work on later. Dabbydabby (talk) 02:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the widespread Hylocomium splendens (glittering wood-moss, pictured) has anti-bacterial qualities? New article by Ben MacDui (talk · contribs), nominated by EncycloPetey (talk) 20:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alt. hook) ... that it is possible to estimate the age of a Stair-step Moss (Hylocomium splendens, pictured) by counting the number of "steps"? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Captain Richard Whitaker Porritt was the first British Member of Parliament to be killed in World War II? (self-nom)Kernel Saunters (talk) 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Many sources claim the first British MP to be killed in World War II was actually Ronald Cartland. The dates don't match, but there is a confusion because Cartland was originally posted missing and his death was not confirmed until January 1941. Sam Blacketer (talk) 21:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
    • The official sources (CWGC) have Porritt as dying on 26th May and Cartland on the 30th. What sources do you have that state Cartland died earlier than the 26th May? Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
      • Oh, none; as I said the dates don't match. But I do know plenty of sources saying that Cartland was the first MP to die in World War II. Sam Blacketer (talk) 22:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
        • I'll add that info to the articles on the lines that whilst some sources have Cartland as the first death, official sources (and others) have Porritt as the actual first as per WP:common sense Kernel Saunters (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Oladevi, a dty whose worship may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization, is revered as the goddess of cholera by both the Hindus and Muslims of Bengal? Vishnava (talk) 19:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC) - striking this old nomination in favor of a new one at the bottom of this thread, as per discussion. Vishnava_(talk) 17:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
  • . Technically speaking, a person that worships multiple deities is a non-Muslim. I'm not saying that this religious practice is not a real social phenomena in Bengal, but it is an issue that is far more complex than the summarized sentence. Moreover, the two sources in the article stating that Muslims worship this deity are far from perfect (LOC document, and seemingly unsourced Banglapedia). --Soman (talk) 07:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
    • I don't agree with your reasons - I personally know that what you say about the doctrine of Islam is correct, but as far as I can see, we can hardly pass judgment here on who is Muslim or not - that would be a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:NOT (my thinking). That statement is supported by sources from a scholarly book, US country study and Banglapedia - which is a reputed encyclopedia in its own right and has been used as a WP:RS in many articles here. Vishnava_(talk) 15:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I think its important to differentiate between Islam as a religion and Muslims as a social community here. The link to the article Islam ('[[Islam|Muslims]]') in this case becomes a statement, namely that the wording would say that an apparent abomination of Islamic religious practice could be passed of as Islamic. I do agree that we should try to avoid going into classification schemes of our own (see for example the lengthy debate on who really is a communist at template talk:communism). But as far as theology goes, this is a quite simple case: Islam stresses before everything else the oneness of God, any polytheist practices are un-Islamic. --Soman (talk) 16:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
        • Vishnava asked me to review the hook since I am disinterested in either side. I don't know much about either religion. An encyclopedia is a tertiary source, so it is not a particularly reliable source. On the other hand, Wikipedians should not be making interpretations from sources. Since both sides have good arguments, how about making a compromise by changing the hook to read one of the following: (ALT1) ... that Oladevi, a deity whose worship may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization, is revered as the goddess of cholera by the Hindus of Bengal? or (ALT2) ... that Oladevi, a deity whose worship may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization, is revered as the goddess of cholera by Bengalese in two major religions? Royalbroil 16:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I love the fact that there's a goddess of Cholera and would hate to see this get missed off DYK because of problems with the hook. How about this simpler version:

        ... that Oladevi is worshipped by people in Bengal as the goddess of cholera?

      • Or:

        ... that the worship of Oladevi, the goddess of cholera, has diminished in Bengal due to advances in medicine and sanitation. -- GDallimore (Talk) 16:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

      • I've been asked by Vishnava to comment on this. Actually, Oladevi (or by other names) is part of a folk tradition in Bengal, irrespective of religion. While Muslims do not actually worship her, she is part of the folk culture shared by both Hindu and Muslims of rural Bengal. In fact, Cholera is called "Ola otha" (can't translate exactly, but sort of like the "spread of Ola"). I recommend using religion neutral wording, for example:
      • ... that Oladevi was revered in rural Bengal as the goddess of cholera?
      • Note the use of "was", "revered" instead of "worshipped", and "in rural Bengal" ... Oladevi isn't "worshipped", she was honored and feared, the traditions were prevalent in rural areas in the past (50 years ago??), and also in stead of using Bengali people as a whole, we should say it was a tradition in rural Bengal (which by the way includes some tribal population who are not Bengalis). Hope this solves the problems. --Ragib (talk) 17:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• My thanks to Royalbroil, Ragib and GDallimore. Baed on their feedback, I am proposing this new nomination:

• ... that Oladevi, a deity whose worship may have originated in the Indus Valley Civilization, was honored and feared as the goddess of cholera in rural Bengal? Vishnava_(talk) 17:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
• May be using "was" would be better, as I suggested above. --Ragib (talk) 17:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Haridas was the last completed film of Kollywood icon M. K. Thyagaraja Bhagavathar prior to his arrest in the Lakshmikanthan Murder Case? - self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 15:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Caetano Veloso went through a long, involved design process to create the minimalist cover for his 2006 album cê? new article, self-nom. --Kakofonous (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the châtelaine of Lissan House, Hazel Dolling always kept a chainsaw in the boot of her car while driving, in case trees had fallen on her mile-long avenue? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the two-inch tall people of the Teenie Weenies (pictured) were a Chicago Tribune comic strip written by William Donahey for over 50 years? Double DYK submisssion, each article expanded 5 fold, by --Doug ^talk 12:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

  ALT ... that the Teenie Weenies (pictured) was a Chicago Tribune comic strip about two-inch tall people that was written by William Donahey for over 50 years? Double DYK submisssion, each article expanded 5 fold, by --Doug ^talk 21:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

  ALT ... that the Teenie Weenies (pictured) was a Chicago Tribune comic strip written by William Donahey for over 50 years about two-inch tall people? Double DYK submisssion, each article expanded 5 fold, by --Doug ^talk 13:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• A few suggestions:
  • ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is a volcanic plug?
  • or ... that the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion is the eastern limit of the Sperrins range?
  • or ... that peat formed at the Northern Irish marilyn Slieve Gallion in the early Holocene period? (self-nom, moved from my sandbox today) EJF (talk) 10:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Reigate Heath Windmill (pictured) is the only windmill in England that has been consecrated as a church? New article created on 17 May and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 10:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Changed "only windmill in world" to "only windmill in England" to be consistent with source. Daniel Case (talk) 03:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that film director Goran Dukić chose only songs by musicians who had committed suicide to accompany his 2006 film Wristcutters: A Love Story, set in an afterworld reserved for suicide victims? (self-nom) —97198 talk 06:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 03:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service paid for the establishment of Muscatatuck National Wildlife Refuge, along the Muscatatuck River, by selling waterfowl stamps? (self-nom)--Bedford 05:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Henriade, an epic poem by French Enlightenment writer Voltaire, was written in honour of the life of Henry IV of France? (slef) -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 03:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Colored Soldiers Monument (pictured) in Frankfort, Kentucky is the only one dedicated to black Union soldiers in Kentucky, and only one of four in the United States? (self-nom)--Bedford 01:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the game fish the Atlantic bumper is only found in the Atlantic Ocean because its ecological niche is filled by the only other member of its genus elsewhere? selfnom Ryan shell (talk) 16:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Page Cortez, a Republican member of the Louisiana House of Representatives, gained vital name recognition in part from television ads promoting his furniture store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Margie (ABC, 1961–1962) is one of the few network programs set during the Roaring Twenties, complete with jalopies, raccoon coats, period music, and references to flappers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Needs template:cite web in referencing or something other than just URLs. Also, reference 4 needs a concrete source so that anyone can find it. gren グレン 05:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• ... that the actress Cynthia Pepper, who appeared in the film Kissin Cousins with Elvis Presley, years later discussed Presley's career in two television documentaries in 2002 and 2003?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that dancer Jack Pepper, the father of actress Cynthia Pepper, was previously married to Ginger Rogers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that actress Cynthia Pepper's first recurring role in a television series was as Jean Pearson, the girlfriend of the chracter "Mike Douglas", played by Tim Considine, in ABC's My Three Sons?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

IMdB is not a reliable source. 02:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the new Chief Minister of the Eastern Province of Sri Lanka, Sivanesathurai Chandrakanthan joined the Tamil Tigers as a child soldier in 1990 at the age of fifteen?--self nom, article expanded 5/17. snowolfD4 ^{( talk / @ )} 00:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 02:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the image of Radha Ramana (pictured) remained in the Hindu temple of Vrindavan during the seventeenth century iconoclastic raids by Muslim king Aurangzeb, when other images were hidden in safer places outside the city? created by User:Wikidas, nom. by me. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 10:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Link points to main Google book page. Can it point to a specific page or quote the relevant text in the footnote? Daniel Case (talk) 02:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16

• ... that Bolton Hall (pictured), the community center for a Utopian community formed in 1913 in the foothills north of Los Angeles, was later used as a jail? new article, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 15:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Sir William Edge, a Liberal MP, once raced against a flock of homing pigeons from London to Leicestershire by car and train, but lost the race by two minutes because the train was delayed? ~ Article by Graham Lippiatt; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC).

Confirmed length and date; reference is offline but exists (The Times). Olaf Davis | Talk 14:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Kosa Pan

• ... that Kosa Pan (pictured) led one of the earliest Siamese embassies to France in the 1680s? -- two new articles by PHG (talk · contribs), double-nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed length and date; references are offline but exist ([1], [2]). Please move the reference to immediately after the fact is first mentioned in France-Thailand relations per the criteria. Does someone who's been around longer than I want to comment on the double article hook? I'm happy with it, but if we have a precedent against them I'm willing to stick to it. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe it's fine to have a double article hook as long as they both meet the criteria. delldot talk 16:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I also don't think it's necessary for the footnote to be immediately after the fact.--Carabinieri (talk) 00:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Fidler Point on Lake Athabasca is named for Peter Fidler, a map-maker, fur trader and explorer who worked for the Hudson's Bay Company? -- new article by KenWalker (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Harvard Japanologist Susan Pharr was recently awarded the Order of the Rising Sun by the Japanese government? -- new article by Tenmei (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Juniper Valley Park in New York City used to be a swamp owned by Arnold Rothstein, who in the 1920s tried to sell it to the city for use as an airport? -- new article by Mtnman79 (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that New Zealand currently has free trade agreements with Australia, Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Chile and China? -- new article by Taifarious1 (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 06:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that at 1,222.2 metres (4,010 ft) altitude Finse Station is the highest station on the Norwegian rail network? self-nom Arsenikk ^(talk) 19:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

  Too short. 1100 characters. Thingg^⊕⊗ 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

There are few more days to expand the article. --PFHLai (talk) 02:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that British Conservative MP Alan Gomme-Duncan, despite being a strong unionist, did not want the Stone of Scone returned to Westminster Abbey after Scottish nationalists stole it in 1951? (self-nomination) Sam Blacketer (talk) 19:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Confirmed length and date; reference is offline but exists (The Times). Olaf Davis | Talk 14:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Cystatin C

• ... that cystatin C (pictured) is a human protein studied as a biomarker of decreased kidney function and prognosis in cardiovascular diseases? Self nom (expanded > five-fold, previous version also had big chunk of automatically inserted text). --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 00:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Republican Monty Warner called on his Democratic rival Joe Manchin to endorse George Bush for re-election during the 2004 West Virginia gubernatorial election? Self nom Davewild (talk) 12:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the colonial ghost town of Brunswick, North Carolina (pictured) was named after Braunschweig, Germany, the birthplace of Great Britain's King George I? (self-nom) APK ^{yada yada} 07:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Refs check out, as does expansion, citation and all. BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 02:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Nathan Daboll wrote the mathematics textbook most commonly used in American schools during the first half of the 19th century? -- new article self-nom by Rosiestep (talk) 05:10, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Alt Hook... that Nathan Daboll, author of almanacs, a mathematics textbook, and a navigation guide is mentioned in Herman Melville's Moby-Dick? --Rosiestep (talk) 00:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Mahadeva temple

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"?(self nom)Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Alternate hook:
  • ... that the 12th century Mahadeva temple (pictured) is considered one of the finest monuments in Karnataka state, India?Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:27, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? Please mark the DYK article in bold. Also, include a note pointing to the picture you have included. Thus, it should look like this:

• ... that a 12th century epigraph styles the Mahadeva temple (pictured) in Karnataka, India, as "The emperor among temples"? The359 (talk) 04:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 14:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 20:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the forced removal of 700,000 people from slums in Zimbabwe in 2005 was called "a crime against humanity" by the UN? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 01:30, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Date, ref and length verified. The bolded link in the hook is a bit long; suggest something like:

• ... that the forced removal of 700,000 people from slums in Zimbabwe in 2005 was called "a crime against humanity" by the UN? Olaf Davis | Talk 14:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Perhaps, though, we should just rename this "Non-governmental crime in Zimbabwe" and redirect this title here (Just kidding, though the point is serious). Daniel Case (talk) 20:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Drawing of Benjamin Robins' ballistic pendulum

• ... that in addition to ballistics, the ballistic pendulum (pictured) was also used by physicists to evaluate the elasticity and flight of golf balls? -- expanded 5x, self nominated by scot (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Date, length and reference confirmed. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Indo-Iraqi relations improved considerably after Iraq supported India's 1998 nuclear tests and its stand on the Kashmir dispute? Vishnava (talk) 17:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Coalición Obrera, Campesina, Estudiantil del Istmo (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • (alternate) ... that the Coalition of Workers, Peasants, and Students of the Isthmus (COCEI) was the first elected socialist municipal government in Mexico? (self-nom) --Grimlight (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Seaway Trail Discovery Center is one of the few attractions in the North Country, New York, that is open year-round? -- new article self-nom by _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 15:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a large part of the first vintage from the Spanish winery Dominio de Pingus was lost in 1997 when the transporting ship bound for the United States disappeared somewhere off the Azores in the North Atlantic Ocean? -- new article self-nom by MURGH ^disc. 15:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg, after that chair fell vacant because of the death of Eduard Heine, the former teacher of Wangerin? (self-nom) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• 217 character hook. "... that in 1882, German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin was appointed to the chair of ordinary professor at the University of Halle-Wittenberg after the chair was vacated by the death of Eduard Heine, Wangerin’s former teacher?" is 205 characters. If no other ways of shortening the hook can be found, removing his two middle names would bring it under 200 characters. Thingg^⊕⊗ 15:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• No, bringing it under 200 would take more than that because we include spaces when counting (see #Instructions). The first hook, for example, is 256 characters not 217. Art LaPella (talk) 21:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

*bangs head on wall* Thingg^⊕⊗ 22:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Alternative:

... that German mathematician Friedrich Heinrich Albert Wangerin wrote an important two volume treatise on potential theory and spherical functions, Theorie des Potentials und der Kugelfunktionen, in 1909 and 1921? Masterpiece2000 (talk) 06:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that, after more than one hundred editors supported his request for adminship, prolific DYK contributor User:Gatoclass has finally been made an administrator?
  • Thought this would be an appropriate way of bringing it to attention, even though it can't go on the main page! Bencherlite^Talk 10:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Yay! BobAmnertiopsis_{ChitChat Me!} 11:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• That looks like a pretty reliable source to me! Thanks guys, couldn't have done it without you :) Gatoclass (talk) 11:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Why can't it go on the main page? It's long enough and the ref checks out! (lol) Mjroots (talk) 14:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I've bolded the RFA instead of the log ;). Mjroots (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Abdominal CT scan of a patient with subcutaneous emphysema

• ... that after a chest injury, air can escape from the lungs and travel to the subcutaneous tissue of the skin, causing subcutaneous emphysema (pictured)? Self nom, moved from userspace today. By some bizarre cooincidence, Antelan created a stub a few days ago, so I histmerged them (but this is way over 5x the size, so could count as expansion instead). 5 alternate images available. delldot talk 06:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a Confederate scouting party entered Indiana in June 1863 dressed as an Union army patrol searching for deserters? (self-nom)--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Created this article especially to mark my 100th DYK.--Bedford 03:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on your 100th DYK (to be)! That is truly mind blowing. Minor thing: wouldn't it be "a Union Army patrol"? delldot talk 12:52, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, although I figured out last night that my 100th will actually be the Indiana State Parks one, which is suitable for 100 as well (I should have accredited myself with one I didn't.)--Bedford 15:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Victoria Hotel after cyclone, 1897

• ... that in its 118 year history, the heritage listed Victoria Hotel (pictured in 1897) in Darwin, Australia, has survived three major cyclones, Japanese air raids during WW2, and a soldiers' riot? (self-nom) Spy007au (talk) 02:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Samuel Huston

• ... that Samuel B. Huston (pictured) switched counties and political parties between two elections to the Oregon State Senate? (self) Aboutmovies (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Article mentions the county shift but not the change in political parties. Daniel Case (talk) 12:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John George Adair in 1861 evicted some 150 poor tenants from their houses near his Glenveagh Castle in County Donegal, Ireland, to enhance the scenic beauty of the land?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Polish-Russian relations intensified with the Polish-Lithuanian union of Lublin in the 16th century, which marked the beginning of centuries of struggle over dominance of Central and Eastern Europe between Poland and Russia? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:36, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Relations between Poland and Russia are recorded from the 10th century. So how can such a thing be stated as a fact? Can you find a more concrete factual hook? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
    • This hook is based on a statement by a historian (footnoted in the article). It is also not controversial (like a hook noting the importance of Polish capture of Moscow or Katyn invasion would be) or banal (as a hook stating the relations are important and suffer from ups and downs would be). Perhaps instead of "really began" we could write "took on a new importance" or something like that to indicate that yes, there were relations since 10th century, but they were not as crucial? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
      • I can find a similar statement in the source, but not the article. It is not controversial in the sense that it probably won't piss anyone off, but you can tell yourself it is could be misleading unless one follows the sources narrative with a great deal of insight. Not as crucial? I dunno. Several branches of the Riurikids greatly relied on Polish kinship links for their power in Rus, it was common for Rus' princes to pay the Polish king to act as a mercenary captain in the 11th century, regimes changed in Rus through this Polish intervention, the Rus put down a rebellion among the Mazovians, and one interpretation of a passage in the Byzantine De Administrando Imperio has the 10th century Poles as tributaries of the Rus. Less controversial than "really began with the" would be "entered a new era". I don't like this kind of assertion in DYKs - prefer concrete things - but this at least avoids some of the problems with the first suggestion.:) Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the hook could probably be fixed just by substituting "intensified" for "really began". Gatoclass (talk) 04:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

"Intensified" or "entered a new era" sound fine to me.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed it to "intensified" and am verifying on that basis. Gatoclass (talk) 12:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Many Happy Returns (CBS sitcom, 1964–1965) featured character actor John McGiver managing the complaint division of a fictitious California department store?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 12:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• Quite frankly, I don't get what's unusual about this fact.--Carabinieri (talk) 00:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Blonde lace, while made with the same stitches as Chantilly lace, was made out of two different thicknesses of thread to create greater contrast between the pattern and the ground? (other suggestions wlecome...) self nom, new article Loggie (talk) 13:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Can the cited source's footnote be amended either to point to p. 31 of the book, or quote the relevant text if that's impossible? Daniel Case (talk) 12:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Fixed link, fixed the other ref so that there is now a link for it too. Loggie (talk) 15:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on May 15

• ... that the town of Melattur in Tamil Nadu, India is famous for its Bhagavathar Melas and an unique style of Bharatanatyam which is practised here? - (increased five-fold) self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 11:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Mary Roos represented Germany twice in the Eurovision Song Contest and took part in the German national final for the competition another three times? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Euro Mok (talk • contribs) 22:32, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• Article is not based on reliable sources.--Carabinieri (talk) 14:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Woodhouse Grove School is a Methodist Church founded Independent School near Bradford in England and is an independent day and boarding school founded in 1812 for children between the ages of three and eighteen? Much expanded article (self nom) 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 17:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Which article? The359 (talk) 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I assume its the Woodhouse Grove School, but it doesn't look like this is a five-fold expansion within the last five days. BuddingJournalist 19:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

It does appear to be the Woodhouse article. I think it's skirting the edge of the 5-day rule (21stCenturyGreenstuff's edits to this article began on May 9th, but he really only reached 5x expansion today). However, the hook used here is poorly worded and uninteresting. It presents no unique factoid other than saying exactly what the school is. The359 (talk) 21:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Wallingford Tornado of 1878 was the deadliest tornado in Connecticut history, and the second deadliest ever to strike New England? - new article, self nom, RunningOnBrains 04:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Verified length, date and that book ref exists. —SusanLesch (talk) 18:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the JA Ranch, which once encompassed 1,335,000 acres and 100,000 head of cattle in six counties, is the oldest working ranch in the Texas Panhandle and still owned by heirs of its founder?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 00:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Cited source for ranch size 404s; other one doesn't have a footnote. Daniel Case (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, ranches.org, which is used repeatedly in the article doesn't appear to be a reliable source to me.--Carabinieri (talk) 00:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Michael Anderson, Jr., and Barbara Hershey won Western Heritage Awards for their work on The Monroes, an ABC family series which ran only twenty-six weeks in the 1966–1967 season?-- self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

IMdB isn't an acceptable source for this sort of thing. Daniel Case (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14

• ... that Scotty Bowman (pictured) is the only Sabres coach to have won the Jack Adams Award, an honor given annually to the National Hockey League coach "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success"? Five fold expansion. Self nom. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 22:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks to me like some sort of mix-up in the article, because the refs list two Sabres winners of the award and neither of them are Bowman. Gatoclass (talk) 11:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

ALT:*... that the first head coach, Hall of Famer Punch Imlach, has the lowest winning percentage of any Sabres coach, with 0.370 during his 120-game tenure? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 19:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Article also currently has only 1400 chars of main body text by my count. Gatoclass (talk) 04:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Andrus Planetarium, first added to the Hudson River Museum (pictured) in 1969 to celebrate the space age, is the only public planetarium in Westchester County and its laser shows are credited with the museum's 31% increase in attendance in the 1990s, almost 20 years later? Article expanded on 14 May and self nom by _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 16:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Looks like vast improvement but length is increased less than 4x. Standard is usually 5x or more, eh? —Wknight94 (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• whoops, guess my math was off. Sorry about that. Somehow I did ~8/1.6 and got 5. Back to elementary school for me. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 20:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Correct me if I'm wrong (I don't play in here too often) but I think only content is counted, not references, etc. If so, then the length went from a bit over 900 to under 3,300. If I'm splitting hairs, someone more experienced here please overrule because it's a much nicer article now. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Wknight94 is correct: see #Instructions. My count is 3115/904=3.45. Also, it's a 282 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 21:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I goofed. I can live with that. I'm just happy the article is better, DYK would have been an added bonus. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 21:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, only a x3, sorry. Gatoclass (talk) 11:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Brian Ferneyhough's New Complexity song cycle, Etudes Transcendantales uses nested tuplets such as dotted-11:6 within 5:4 in a 2/10 time signature! -- nom of a User:Ekawolfram, a student. (Note that the rhythmic part of the hook is based just on looking at the first measure of the score and doesn't rely on any interpretation by Richard Toop or the article author. It's a bit like saying "... that Beethoven's Für Elise begins on an E", completely verifiable from a glance at the score) -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 21:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Hook is too specific for a general audience. "Nested irregular tuplets" will do, but you will also need a cite with a page number for that particular statement, even though there is only one reference. Gatoclass (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• "Nested irregular tuplets" is fine. But isn't requiring a citation for something that's in the image of the score (in the article) and not interpretive, a bit like asking for a citation of "Lincoln had a beard" in an article with an image of Lincoln and a beard? I don't think it helps readers at all and not necessary for WP:V. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 14:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• I don't quite think it's akin to "Lincoln had a beard", because for one thing everyone knows what a beard looks like but very few of us would know a "nested irregular tuplet" if we saw one. Furthermore a single example doesn't demonstrate that "nested irregular tuplets" are a feature of this piece, which is what the hook implies. So I do think you'd need a cite for this hook. If you don't have one, I think you should probably come up with a different hook that you can cite to a reliable source. Gatoclass (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Remove nom. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 19:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Roja Dove is the world's sole Professeur de Parfums? --Hadseys 13:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Even after bolding new article, it's way too short. Daniel Case (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

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