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Propose to shorten page

This page is too long in comparison with other wikiproject pages. I want to shorten it and only include the most important information. MosMusy (talk)

Armenian ethnicity in lead sections

Discussion at Talk:Alan Hovhaness has indicated that the ethnicity of Armenian and Armenian-Americans is being added or deleted from the lead sections of the subjects articles against policy found at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph (WP:MOSBIO):

  • "Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability."

Ethnicity has been added to lead sections without demonstration of relevance, indicating either a pro-Armenian agenda or an unfamiliarity with policy and pracice. Worse yet, ethnicity has been removed from articles entirely, not simply moved from the lead to the body of the article, indicating an anti-Armenian agenda. Either way the quality of articles covering topics related to Armenia need improvement. Hyacinth (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of Armenian ancestry of diaspora Armenians (for individuals born outside Armenia) in the first sentence or paragraph, I believe, would hinge on the importance of that heritage to that individuals. For Alan Hovhaness, it's central to his life's work, whereas for Eric Bogosian it's not. For Atom Egoyan, it's somewhere in between. This should be evaluated by editors on a case-by-case basis, not on an "enforcer" basis as has been going on with the blanket removals (and refusal by such "enforcers" to consider discussion from editors skilled in the respective fields of those articles). Badagnani (talk) 01:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter what ethnicity we are talking about, the guideline applies... in general. The quote above is not a policy, which would be binding, but a simply a guideline - there are always reasons for exceptions! A guideline is not written in stone, so it is up to the, hopefully good, judgement of the individual editor. I think you will always have people inserting it for their own reasons and other people deleting for being "against the rules". A problem like this can only be dealt with on a case-to-case basis, i.e. discussion with the revising editor and, if that doesn't work, arbitration. TINYMARK 08:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I generally add the script if the person is notable to be an Armenian, and not just Armenian. For example Mark Geragos is notable Armenian, his very involved in the Armenian community, one of his clients is the family of Nataline Sarkisyan. On the other hand Michael Vartan is notable but not for having Armenian roots. Having Armenian script on his article would clearly be inappropriate and POV. What I'm trying to say is that the script should be used if the person him/her self is open about his/her Armenian ethnicity. VartanM (talk) 00:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have no problem with removal of the nationality from the lead. I do have a problem with completely removing it. VartanM (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian script

The addition of Armenian script appears to be a seperate issue. Hyacinth (talk) 00:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Third and forth generation Armenians who have lost all ties with Armenia and Armenian nationality and all that it remains is the last name, usually don't warrant having the Armenain script. VartanM (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Justin McCarthy

The article Justin McCarthy (American historian) is in a situation of more-or-less OR and POV. I have tagged it, but I do not know anything about him in particular, and very little about Armenian and Turkish history. So maybe somebody more knowledgeable about it might want to have a look. Happy editing, Goochelaar (talk) 23:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Justin McCarthy as a Wikipedia Source

There are two articles here in which Justin A. McCarthy is used as a source for information. He doesn't seem like a reliable or unbiased source to me. My arguement is that someone who denies something as undisputable as the Armenian Genocide is no longer reliable. Maybe someone here with more knowlege about him can argue that his writings aren't suitable to be used as sole sources for controversial information.

These are the articles I have seen him references to:

Russo-Turkish War (1877–1878) Turks in Bulgaria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.66.205 (talk) 10:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian presidential election, 2008

Hi everyone, I'm sure you all are aware of the uprising in Armenia. Please help cover this important historic event by contributing to the Armenian presidential election, 2008 as well as WikiNews. (There is still no article on WikiNews on this unprecedented now 11-day peaceful protest.) As you know, the government has a virtual information blockade in the country. No government TV station or newspaper is covering the uprising. It is now up to volunteers and the people to help cover the event (since corporate media also likes to pick up and parrot what the government has to say...).

Here are a set of reliable and reputable sources:
Armenia Liberty (Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty) -- now much of the Armenian people's chosen news source
A1+
More sources
Aravot (opposition)
[1] (opposition)

Good day! Serouj (talk) 06:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian mail

Postage stamps and postal history of Armenia has been improved recently but could do with some more, actually lots more, sourced detail. Does anyone have sources that I, or others, can use to add further information to make it more comprehensive? TIA ww2censor (talk) 04:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is pretty weak - I see lots of errors. But I don't have sources which I can cite, I have only knowledge. Meowy 20:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Film editors wanted

WikiProject Films has solicited interest in creating a Soviet/CIS cinema task force. We'd like to cordially welcome all regular editors of these articles to voice their interest in starting this task force so as to see if there is sufficient support. Many thanks! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roustam Raza

Friends, someone (notebly the user with nickname Vanbok, either logged or anonimously) is constantly removing the words and sentences concerning the Armenian origin of Roustam Raza, changing it with Georgian ones. Meanwhile, the Armenian origin of Rustam is well proved/referenced in the article. So please add this page on your watchlist and watch for vandalism. Thanks Armatura (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Project categories

I have nominated several of this project's maintenance categories for renaming (a minor change). The discussion is located here and comments are welcome. –Black Falcon (Talk) 03:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 18:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Armenian-Russians

This list has been vandalized so often in the past (usually by IPs in Georgia) that it's now impossible to tell what is real and what isn't. I took the liberty to cut everything that wasn't wiki-linked out. Rather drastic, I know, but the only way I can make sure the people on the list actually exist. See [2] for my explanation and a link to a steady, absolutely clean version.  Channel ®   22:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Van Resistance

Hullo, cross-posting from WP:EAR - would any of you be able to take a look at Van Resistance please? There's a bit of a conflict going on and some fresh eyes might be helpful. TIA, --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 2861 articles are assigned to this project, of which 300, or 10.5%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page.

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stub types

If anyone is interested in stub-sorting as well as Armenia, there are several new provincial sub-categories under Category:Armenia geography stubs, which now needs to be re-sorted. If you need help, come by WP:WPSS. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 23:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia–Russia relations

Looks like a copy-paste (with original author's C.V.), POV, prose, unwikified etc. Any hopes for an encyclopedic rewrite, esp. the Armenian side? NVO (talk) 09:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet and post-Soviet films task force

Just thought that the community would like to know that WikiProject Films has a established a Soviet and post-Soviet cinema task force. Interested editors are encouraged to join onboard! Thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 21:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Consistent translations of Քաղաքներ and Գյուղեր

There doesn't seem to be any standard on Wikipedia for how to translate Քաղաքներ and Գյուղեր. We translate Քաղաքներ as either "city" or "town", while we translate Գյուղեր as either "town" or "village". Obviously, this is a source of confusion, since the English word "town" is being used with 2 separate meanings. We need to come up with a standard convention and stick to it. The Armenian censuses use Քաղաքներ=town and Գյուղեր=village. I could imagine someone arguing, however, that the more natural English translations would be Քաղաքներ=city and Գյուղեր=town. What are people's preferences between the two conventions? Kaldari (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Could you please transliterate these two words for the masses who do not read Armenian? Thank you. It would be helpful to have some context for your highly relevant suggestion: what is the usage in the printed media? can we look at a short list of some actual places in each category, showing their location and population (from statistical yearbooks)? And finally, could you elaborate why someone would argue for "city/town" instead of "town/village"? What word would then serve for "village"? --Zlerman (talk) 02:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Քաղաքներ = kaghakner, Գյուղեր = gyugher. Both are plural, singular would be քաղաք = kaghak and գյուղ = gyugh. I've added a third option (city/village). Markussep Talk 15:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • There are currently about 871 gyugher/Գյուղեր in Armenia and about 46 kaghakner/Քաղաքներ if that gives you an idea of the demographics. Kaldari (talk) 18:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I did a cursory survey and found that kaghakner range in population from over 100,000 to less than 1,000, with the average being about 10,000. Gyugher range in population from about 8,000 to 0, with the average being about 500. Hope that helps. Kaldari (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the following sentence in the Armenia article:
"The republic has 953 villages, 48 cities and 932 communities, from which 871 are rural and 61 urban."
to:
"The republic has 918 municipalities, of which 48 are towns (kaghakner, sing. kaghak) and 870 are villages (gyugher, sing. gyugh)."
Hope that sounds right to everyone. Kaldari (talk) 19:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kaghak/Քաղաք=town and gyugh/Գյուղ=village (and large kaghak=city)

  1. Support - I think we should stick with the convention used by the Armenian census as this is the most official English-language source. Kaldari (talk) 23:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support: based on dictionary definitions of village, town, city combined with the usage in statistical yearbooks of Armenia (specifically see 2007 Yearbook, Table 18, p. 36). So, use "village" for a rural settlement, "town" as a generic term for any urban settlement, and reserve "city" for designating a specific large town (such as Yerevan, Gyumri, Vanadzor, etc.). --Zlerman (talk) 02:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well this is what I don't undestand, based on the following convention are we going to call Gyumri or Vanadzor cities or towns? Because in the Armenian language there is no distinction between city and town that I know of but calling Gyumri a town is just funny.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 03:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am sorry if I have not made myself clear enough. When writing about Gyumri on its own, call it city, not town. When dealing with Gyumri as part of the set of urban/rural statistics and classifications (i.e., generically), include it in the group "towns" and do not show the group "cities" separately. An example from Soviet-era statistics: the 1987 yearbook (and others) contains a separate table that lists the population in "large towns" (what we would normally call cities in English), which at that time were Yerevan, Leninakan (Gyumri), and Kirovakan (Vanadzor). Then come tables that split the population into "towns" and "villages", where Yerevan, Gyumri, and Vanadzor are included in "towns". I gather from Kaldari's introductory statements that this is also basically the practice in the population census (which I have not seen). --Zlerman (talk) 03:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have just read the debate on this issue on Kaldari's talk page, and I am afraid that my thinking goes in a direction that is totally different from the debate. In my suggestions for "town/village" I am talking in categories, generically. I am not referring to whether a specific settlement should be called a town or a village. This has to be decided from substantive considerations in each individual case (taking location and population into consideration). I know that a "large" town should be called a city, but there is no universal formula for distinguishing between a town and a village. If the population census, or any other statistical database, contains a list of all Armenian settlements classified into "kaghak" and "gyugh", then from considerations of consistency we should follow this classification and call "kaghak" town and "gyugh" village. There should be a separate (agreed) list of "large" towns that can be called cities on an individual basis. --Zlerman (talk) 04:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I definitely like this suggestion and have added "large kaghak=city" to the header. Certainly kaghakner with populations near 100,000 or more should be called cities in their respective articles. However, where we are listing them by category they should still listed as "towns" as this is their official designation. This also avoids the problem of calling kaghakner with populations of less than 1,000 "cities" as that seems just as awkward as calling kaghakner with populations around 100,000 "towns". Kaldari (talk) 16:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Sounds good to me.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 16:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support - Fedayee (talk) 20:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support with suggestion: Define "city" as a "town" over 100,000. So Vanadzor (de jure pop), Gyumri, and Yerevan are the only cities in Armenia. And this is quite accurate with notions of cities in the West. (For example, Aparan is not a city. Just look at the skyline!) Also, in Armenian, a town is գիւղաքաղաք (gyughakaghak: something between a village and a city. This doesn't seem to have been in use in Soviet Armenia, but is a word used often in Western Armenian. Serouj (talk) 06:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kaghak/Քաղաք=city and gyugh/Գյուղ=town

  1. Oppose: this classification misses the entire category "village", which in English is distinct from "town". --Zlerman (talk) 02:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kaghak/Քաղաք=city and gyugh/Գյուղ=village

  1. Support Only because this is what sounds right to me personally. Keep in mind that British English is used in Armenia as elsewhere in Europe whenever official documents are translated to English.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 18:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Oppose: see argument under town–village above. --Zlerman (talk) 02:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

requested moves

I've requested moving 7 articles about places in Armenia, because the names weren't transliterated according to the WP:ARMEN naming convention. See Talk:Lusarrat for details. Markussep Talk 15:48, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Number of villages

Depending on what source you look at, Armenia has 953, 952, 932, or 871 villages (gyugher). Yet, in all of our lists we have 870 villages total. Which of the above figures is correct and where are the missing villages? BTW, the lists are at List of municipalities in Armenia and the various lists on the individual Marzer pages. Kaldari (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And strangely, the Armenian Wiki only lists 862 villages. Kaldari (talk) 23:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is extremely tedious, so it may take a while, but here are the missing villages for Aragatsotn province according to the 2001 census:

Unfortunately, I can't add them to the Aragatsotn article since I have no idea which raions they are in. Anyone up for the challenge? Kaldari (talk) 16:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only village missing from Ararat province is Kakavaberd. Kaldari (talk) 22:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only village missing from Armavir province is Tairov. Kaldari (talk) 22:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The villages missing from Gegharkunik are:

Kaldari (talk) 23:01, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The villages missing from Kotayk are:

Kaldari (talk) 23:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The villages missing from Lori are:

Kaldari (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, this is quite a piece of research you have completed. Very useful, I am sure. In my opinion the first step is to add all these villages to List of municipalities in Armenia, even if some of them are red-linked. Then you will know that the list matches the 2001 census. The search for raions and the incorporation in the marz articles can come later. I have noticed one thing though: Korchlu and Kunik, for instance, are described as "town" in the respective wiki articles. This should be changed to "village" and similar edits for consistency should be made in all other village articles. This, of course, harks back to your initial issue of terminological inconsistency that has led to all this interesting work. --Zlerman (talk) 03:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The missing villages from Shirak Province are:

Kaldari (talk) 18:20, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The missing villages from Syunik Province are:

Kaldari (talk) 22:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The missing villages in Tavush are:

Kaldari (talk) 22:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The missing villages in Vayots Dzor are:

That should be all of them. Kaldari (talk) 22:17, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Verdict

According to my count there are 951 villages listed in the 2001 Armenian census. As I mentioned above, some sources state that there are 952 or 953 villages. In the census documents for each marz I found two miscounts, one for Aragatsotn and one for Syunik. In Aragatsotn there is no village #47 and in Syunik there is no village #66. You can see this for yourself in the PDFs. I think this may explain the 952 and 953 figures. I have no idea, however, if this means actual villages were not listed or they simply skipped counting a number in the lists. Unless someone knows the answer to this mystery (or has access to better documents) I'm going to go with the 951 figure for now. Kaldari (talk) 23:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for the discrepancies

Apparently, Armenia has 2 totally different schemes of classifying places which are similar but not exactly alike. This is apparently what is responsible for the discrepancies I listed above. One scheme is classifying places as "Urban Communities", "Rural Communities", and "Settlements" (no idea what the native Armenian equivs are). The other scheme is classifying places as either "Towns" (kaghakner) or "Villages" (gyugher). "Towns" seem to pretty much always equal "Urban Communities". "Villages" equal either "Rural Communities" or "Settlements". The existing Armenian province articles equated the word "community" with "municipality" and thus didn't list any villages which are considered merely "settlements" (these are typically smaller populated places within larger villages). Hope that was understandable. This brings up several questions:

  1. Should we include both sets of lists in the province articles?
  2. Should List of municipalities in Armenia be renamed List of towns and villages in Armenia?
  3. Should we create a new List of municipalities in Armenia article that lists the urban and rural communities, but not the settlements?
  4. What are the Armenian equivalents of the terms "Urban Communities", "Rural Communities", and "Settlements"?
  5. It is reasonable to equate whatever the Armenian term for "community" is in these contexts with the idea of "municipalities"?
  6. Is the Urban Communities/Rural Communities/Settlements scheme replacing the Towns/Villages scheme or vice-versa (or are they both equally valid)?

Kaldari (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I understand from the census data sheets, the Armenian word used for communities is "hamaynk" (համայնք). A settlement (again according to the census data sheets) is a "bnakavayr" (բնակավայր). I don't think one system is replacing the other. I'm pretty sure the local government is organised by community, see article 104 of the constitution. Unfortunately the Armenian version doesn't show correctly in my browser. I've seen at least one instance of an urban community containing a town (kaghak) and a village (gyugh). Most (>90%) communities contain only one settlement (town or village). Therefore I wouldn't recommend putting both a list of municipalities (=communities) and a list of settlements in province articles. How about adding the non-independent villages to the footnotes of the municipality tables? Markussep Talk 08:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any way for us to find out the legal definitions of any of these terms (if they exist)? Kaldari (talk) 14:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For legal definitions of all self-government concepts you have to go to the Law on Local Self-Government, article 4. I am citing the Russian version, because the English translations that I have found on the web are hopelessly flawed. A helpful informal description in English from [3] is reproduced below:
"Provincial administrations, however, do possess the authority to supervise and intervene as deemed necessary in the day-to-day life of lower government structures, the Communities (Hamaynkner), that are located in their provinces. Under the Armenian Constitution, all cities, villages, and the 12 Districts of Yerevan have the status of a Community and are governed by a locally-elected Community Chief and a legislative body called the Council of Elders (Avakani). In cities, Community Chiefs hold the title of Mayor. These locally elected chief executives can be removed by the central government upon the recommendation of the provincial Governor."
So, a town is a community and a village is a community. A city is also a community, or maybe a cluster of communities (12 communities of Yerevan).
Incidentally, it seems to me that you have been over-hasty renaming List of municipalities in Armenia as List of towns and villages in Armenia: it is clear from all Armenian legal documents that a municipality is a town or a village. See also the Wiki definition in Municipality. --Zlerman (talk) 15:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The paragraph you quoted above doesn't make sense. There are lots of villages that are not listed as communities in the stats I have looked at. In particular all villages that are contained within another community. Take for example: Kyurut, Pirlu, and Verin Giratagh just to get started (there are about 84 total). These are all listed as villages in the census, but not counted as communities in the marz stats. This is why the number of towns and villages for any marz do not equal the number of communities. Look at page 2 of any of the following PDFs to see what I mean:
My only conclusion so far is that the English versions of all these documents are hopelessly poorly translated, i.e. they do not translate things consistently. Kaldari (talk) 17:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to Marzes of the Republic of Armenia in Figures, 2002-2006 (which is published by the Armenian government) there are 915 communities (urban and rural) or 927 if you count "district communities" as communities (although those seems to be a distinct type of entity). According to the 2001 Armenian census there are 951 towns and villages (some of which belong to other towns or villages) (this doesn't count the 12 "districts" or "district communities" of Yerevan). I really think we need a native Armenian speaker to sort out this mess. Kaldari (talk) 18:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to all the sources I've looked at, the paragraph you quoted above is incorrect, as villages which are considered "settlements" are not considered "communities" (or at least they are not counted that way). Whether this means they are self-governing or not, I have no idea. Kaldari (talk) 18:32, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can we find any legal definitions of the terms hamaynk, bnakavayr, kaghak, or gyugh that are supplied by the Armenian government or census department? Kaldari (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion discussion

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afghan British (contains proposal for deletion of the Armenian British article). Badagnani (talk) 05:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need original Armenian text from constitution

The following is Chapter 7, Article 104.1 of the Armenian constitution according to an unofficial English translation:

"A community comprises the populace of one or more residential areas. A community shall be a legal entity, have the right to property and other economic rights."

Can anyone supply the original Armenian version of these 2 sentences? I'm suspecting that "community" is "համայնք" and "residential areas" is the plural of "բնակավայր" (what I've been calling "settlements"), but it would be nice to know that for sure so that we can start sorting out what these terms actually mean legally. Kaldari (talk) 19:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found it: "Համայնքը մեկ կամ մի քանի բնակավայրերի բնակչության հանրությունն է: Համայնքն իրավաբանական անձ է, ունի սեփականության իրավունք եւ գույքային այլ իրավունքներ:" Can anyone provide an extremely literal interpretation of that (word for word)? Kaldari (talk) 19:47, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deciphering the definitions

Here's what I've been able to decipher. Please correct anything that seems wrong:

  • Bnakavayrer (բնակավայրեր), sing. bnakavayr (բնակավայր) - translated as either "residential area" or "settlement". Kaghakner/towns and gyugher/villages are two types of bnakavayrer/settlements.
  • Hamaynkner (համայնքներ), sing. hamaynk (համայնք) - usually translated as "community", occassionally translated as "district". When used in Armenian statistics seems to equate to municipality, i.e. a self-governing settlement or group of settlements. All hamaynkner/communities consist of one or more bnakavayrer/settlements according to the Armenian constitution. A hamaynk/community is the typical unit of government below a marz/province. Hamaynkner/communities are classified as either urban or rural. Yerevan has the status of a hamaynk.[4]
  • Kaghakner (քաղաքներ), sing. kaghak (քաղաք) - usually translated as "town", sometimes translated as "city". A kaghak is a type of bnakavayr/settlement.
  • Gyugher (գյուղեր), sing. gyugh (գյուղ) - translated consistently as "village". One or more gyugher/villages can combine to form a single hamaynk/community. Thus not all villages are communities, but all villages are part of a community. A gyugh is a type of bnakavayr/settlement.

Kaldari (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the final text I settled on for the Armenia article:

Within each province are communities (hamaynkner, singular hamaynk). Each community is self-governing and consists of one or more settlements (bnakavayrer, singular bnakavayr). Settlements are classified as either towns (kaghakner, singular kaghak) or villages (gyugher, singular gyugh). As of 2007, Armenia includes 915 communities, of which 49 are considered urban and 866 are considered rural. The capital, Yerevan, also has the status of a community.[1] Additionally, Yerevan is divided into twelve semi-autonomous districts.

Kaldari (talk) 21:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yerevan is divided into 12 communities/hamaynkner, see this website saying "ԵՐԵՎԱՆԻ ԹԱՂԱՅԻՆ ՀԱՄԱՅՆՔՆԵՐԸ" = "Yerevani kaghayin hamaynknere". The city of Yerevan has a province/marz-like status, with 1 lord mayor and 12 mayors for the communities. Markussep Talk 21:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. This government site says that Yerevan itself has the status of a comminity[5]. Is it possible that both Yerevan and its districts are considered communities or do you think that one of our sources is wrong? Kaldari (talk) 21:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I think your idea makes more sense. Too bad there are conflicting/confusing sources. Kaldari (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the text from the Armenian Constitution: "Երեւանը համայնք է: Երեւան քաղաքում տեղական ինքնակառավարման եւ տեղական ինքնակառավարման մարմինների ձեւավորման առանձնահատկությունները սահմանվում են օրենքով: Օրենքով կարող է սահմանվել Երեւանի քաղաքապետի ուղղակի կամ անուղղակի ընտրություն:" Kaldari (talk) 21:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The first sentence translates to "Yerevan community is". Kaldari (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Armenian census refers to the districts of Yerevan as "Թաղային համայնքները" (Kaghayin Hamaynkner) which they translate as "Quarter Communities". For other provinces they list communities as simply "համայնքները" (Hamaynkner), so they appear to be a special type of community (which seems to make sense). Kaldari (talk) 00:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A new law, "On Local Selfgovernment and Territorial Management in Yerevan" ("О местном самоуправлении и территориальном управлении в Ереване") passed first reading in December 2007 and is now awaiting second and third readings in Parliament. As far as I understand from news reports (in Russian), according to this law Yerevan will lose its current "marz" status and will become a municipality (i.e, a "community"). Today Yerevan is divided into 12 "communities" (boroughs, "quarter communities") and elections for community mayor are held in each of the 12 communities separately (see here ). This process somehow leads (or will lead according to the new law) to the creation of a "Council of Elders" for Yerevan, which elects (will elect) the mayor of the city (see here). It seems that the purpose of the law is to make the status of Yerevan consistent with the Constitution (as quoted above). The wording used for Yerevan by Kaldari in Armenia#Administrative division is fully adequate given the current state of information and should be kept until after the adoption of the new law. --Zlerman (talk) 02:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Armenian

A collection of Wikipedia articles is being collected together as Wikipedia 0.7. This collection will be released on DVD later this year, and will be available for free download. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

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Maps

An ongoing discussion that is taking place, might have an affect on Armenian articles. VartanM (talk) 01:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minas Avetisyan

Hi I was looking for some information on this painter, in order to create an article in French. It seems to me that the English article is a copy of this website. As I don't know that much the copyright procedures here, I thought I would let you know. Sardur (talk) 08:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have removed the plagiarized material from the article. Kaldari (talk) 20:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Association of Armenian Scouts

Can you folks look this over, add anything you know, and add Armenian text? Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:40, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles related to Armenia, I've found some articles that I believe are about places in Armenia, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:Armenia articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:

  1. Bagrevand
  2. Daranali
  3. Dariunq
  4. Hanzith
  5. Khachkar
  6. Maku (Armenia)
  7. Shushi (province)

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 95 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

Why add coordinates?

By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

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The articles are all marked with {{coord missing}} tags, which need to be replaced with {{coord}} tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful, or if you have any questions! -- The Anome (talk) 09:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource transcription project: History of Armenia

I went looking for a printed edition of History of Armenia (Moses of Chorene), but failed. Perhaps someone else will be able to find a good edition in here or here.

Instead, I found a two volume work, written by an Armenian in Armenian language and then translated into English. The OCR of the first volume is being uploaded to Wikisource now.

Each page has text and an image; the objective is to fix any text errors you see when you look at the image. If everyone spends five minutes doing a single page, the entire volume will be accurate very quickly. John Vandenberg (chat) 09:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, John: I just want to make sure that I am doing it right. I proofread p. 46 and changed its status; but then pp. 47-48 have pictures and no text. After that, p. 49 has both text and picture. Any instructions in this respect? Also how can I quickly go from one page to the next, say from p. 50 (once I have finished proofreading it) to p. 51? Look forward to hearing from you. Incidentally, I am absolutely fascinated with what you are trying to accomplish! --Zlerman (talk) 10:00, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
pagescans 46-55 are now looking good. I have made some modifications to them, with descriptions in the edit summary. If you have a specific query, feel free to ask me on my Wikisource user talk, or use the edit summary to suggest areas that someone else needs to assist with.
At the top of each page are links to the previous and next page; they appear above the word "Page". John Vandenberg (chat) 22:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When you saw blank pages for scans 47 & 48, I think they were in the OCR queue, waiting for the OCR bot to process. All of volume one should now have OCR text. If there is a page without OCR when the image does have text, you can mark it as "Problematic". John Vandenberg (chat) 00:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, a free downloadable electronic edition of History of Armenia (Moses of Chorene) in RUSSIAN translation is available here. Maybe useful to someone. --Zlerman (talk) 10:35, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding is that this Russian translator is protected by copyright, which means we can not copy it to the Russian Wikisource, and we can not create a new translation from it. If we can find an original Armenian edition, we can copy it to Armenian Wikisource, and we can translate the original into every other language. If we can put the original Armenian text online, with pagescans, we help scholars around the world analyse the text, and assist them create published translations into other languages. Where there is no freely accessible translation, contributors will eventually fill the gap and create one on Wikisource. Wikisource translations are not as reliable as those done by scholars, however they can be better :- for an example of comparable translations underway, see s:Romance of the Three Kingdoms or s:Bible (Free). John Vandenberg (chat) 22:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed with Transcaucasian SFSR

Could someone please add the English transliteration for the Armenian name of this "prehistoric" Soviet republic in this section? Many thanks. --Zlerman (talk) 05:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian cuisine: boraki and boeregs

I need independent expert confirmation that "Boraki (Armenian: Բորակի) are a kind of Armenian fried pelmeni" (see Dumpling#Caucasian Cuisine) and that they are thus different from boeregs (as described also in Armenian cuisine#Boeregs). Any help with the terminology will be much appreciated. --Zlerman (talk) 08:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Doner kebab

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Armenians

Could somebody take a look at the recent anonymous edits to Armenians? Two IP editors are changing Armenian population figures, I don't know who's right. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 21:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Koljunak

Please expand/comment. NVO (talk) 19:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roman–Parthian War of 58–63

Hello! The article on the Roman–Parthian War of 58–63 over Armenia was just brought to A-class status. I would like for it to eventually get to FA level, but am concerned that it presents a too Roman-centric view. If anyone is interested to provide additional information from an Armenian perspective, it would be most welcome. Regards, Constantine ✍ 19:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOT#PLOT

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Rename of Category

Some of you may wish to participate in the discussion on renaming the category Armenian Genocide deniers to Armenian Genocide skeptics. The discussion is here.--Anthon.Eff (talk) 14:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jane Harman

FYI - there has been a little back and forth about the significance of Jane Harman's secret flip-flop on the Armenian Genocide resolution in '07 on her page. There were countless articles at the time, so if there are a couple of more references that could be added to the blurb, it would help I think. So if anyone knows of any, feel free to either add them or let me know. Thanks, --RaffiKojian (talk) 22:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions at Elâzığ

Recently a single new editor has been purging the article Elâzığ of most of its Armenian content. These deletions are regrettable and more eyes and continued vigilance is necessary. Members of this project might also wish to create an article on Harput, which at present redirects to Elâzığ. Aramgar (talk) 21:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an automated way to have a page here in Wikiproject Armenia show any removed text from a list of similar pages? --RaffiKojian (talk) 18:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is enough material currently in the Elazig article to warrent a separate article for Harput. Until there is, there would be a risk of it being used as a pov fork - as a way of moving anything Armenian-related out of the Elazig article and into the Harput one. Meowy 20:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Banak Cathedral

Hi all, I need some help with the Banak Cathedral article that is a 7th century Zvartnots-style Armenian church now in Turkey. According to a Georgian user, the Cathedral was restored by Georgians at some point, and was renamed "Bana." According to Armenian sources it is an Armenian cathedral (architecturally it must be Armenian as there is no other circular Georgian church). Georgian users have repeatedly been removing all Armenian references, so your help in keeping an eye on this page as well as adding to the article would be great. Regards, Serouj (talk) 21:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New template: Major Armenian Churches

Please spread:

(One issue I am pondering is to rename it to "Major Armenian Churches of the Armenian Highland" to reduce it to the historical homeland of the Armenian people, and not add, say churches in Lebanon [e.g. Antelias Catholicossate] or Istanbul Patriarchate, or US churches, etc... But perhaps that should be a separate template, and allow this one to grow throughout the world?)

Serouj (talk) 09:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for a 200-WikiProject contest

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GA Sweeps invitation

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Georgian alphabet

Hi friends. I am a novice in English Wiki, and have a problem with user Kober. He is deleting reliable sources about Mashtots from Georgian alphabet. What must I do to stop it? Divot (talk) 05:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian speaker might help here

I am attempting on Turkish Van and Talk:Turkish Van (I'm sure you guys all know it's a moggy, not a motor vehicle) to engage in discussion with User:Zara-arush, who is I believe Armenian. Might even be a member of this project.??. He says on his userpage that he has professional level english, but unfortunately he's a bit optimistic about that, and I have spent the last three days trying to explain why his content is (a) not really intelligible in english or (b) not properly referenced. Compare my version of the legend of the coat colour with his version, which I've tried to edit into something that works on Wikipedia twice now. Trouble is, being uselessly English I don't really speak any foreign languages, I'm getting about a one word in three level of what he's saying to me, he's probably only getting the same from me. For the reference thing, I've tried pointing him at the page in Turkish, but as he's Armenian I've probably mortally offended him doing so, and he's still posting unreadable content with malformed references that don't support what he's saying. Any help in allowing us to communicate with each other gratefully received - I'm sure he's got loads of good stuff to contribute if we can get over the language issue.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Past Armenians

Have added categories for Category:Ancient Armenian people and Category:Medieval Armenian people (linked to the general people category for the period) with some rulers etc in them (more needed), as there were no categories for past Armenians. Probably not enough potential members to categorise by century, but possibly warranted for 16th-19th century if some Armenians identified for those centuries? Hugo999 (talk) 22:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename Southwest Asia to Western Asia

Please share your views here. Izzedine (talk) 14:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NOTICE. RFC: Changes to Naming policies which may affect WikiProject naming conventions.

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This WikiProject is being notified since it operates such a specific naming convention. Editors are invited to comment on the proposed change at this location. Xandar 00:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above "notification" is a grossly biased misrepresentation of the changes under discussion. The old version of the naming conventions policy tried to lay down binding rules; we don't work that way, so it was necessary also to make explicit exceptions. The new version articulates principles, and allows for consensus to establish how they should be applied. Thus there is no longer any need for exceptions. In fact, making exceptions is nonsense, since there are no rules to make exceptions to. These changes are good for specific conventions. Xandar is trying to induce moral panic in those who stand to gain the most from this. Xandar is only opposed to the new version because he thinks the wording, not the general thrust, weakens his position in a dispute unrelated to this RfC. Don't be fooled. Hesperian 02:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tourism in Armenia

I want to nominate the article Tourism in Armenia to the featured articles in Ukrainian wiki and that's why I need a more-less complete articles in other languages, especially in English. Please improve this article. Also I'd be realy grateful if somebody would create even a stub in other languages.

Also I have a yet one notice. Divot is realy experienced user in Russian wiki and it is realy unfortunate when nobody from enwiki answers on his question. We must cooperate in multilanguage projects.

With the best regards, user from Ukraine --Ліонкінг (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shabin-Karahisar Resistance

Someone blanked Shabin-Karahisar Resistance, claiming that there is no such thing as western Armenia and that the article was propaganda. I don't know anything about Armenian history so I reverted it. Someone who knows the motives should look into the situation. Gigs (talk) 20:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian Cities, Towns, and Villages

Hello everyone, I have been working to clean up articles on cities, towns, and villages in Armenia. I am trying to get as many photos of each town that I visit while I am here. Any assistance to get more photos of towns that I have not covered yet would be greatly appreciated. Also, I am needing help from WikiProject Armenia community to add the mayors, elevation, and area in sq. km. of each town to each of the article's Infoboxes. I have done some, but there is always still more to do. Liveon001 (talk) 10:30, 03 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Просьба

Доброго времени суток, вижу вы прекрасно владеете английским и поэтому возникла просьба, не могли бы вы мне помочь с подбором материалов на англ-ом и других языках про армянские ковры--Lori-m (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good morning, I see you are well speak English and therefore there was a request, could you help me with the selection of materials for English and other languages about the Armenian carpets?(translation from Russian)

Need assistance at Talk:Goblet drum

Hi, we need the Armenian spelling (in the Armenian alphabet) of the name of the goblet drum--I think it is "dumbeg" or "tmpug" in Armenian. Can someone please post that at Talk:Goblet drum? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 00:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susanna Petrosyan

There is a discussion of an Armenian singer at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susanna Petrosyan. Comments by members of this project would be welcome. It would also be helpful if references could be added to the article. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:07, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge proposal of Armenians in Samtskhe-Javakheti

I have made a proposal to merge Armenians in Samtskhe-Javakheti to Samtskhe-Javakheti based upon reasons presented at Talk:Samtskhe-Javakheti#Merge_discussion. Interested project members should present opinions at the article talk page discussion, and hopefully come up with a solution to what are valid concerns with the article. --Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 08:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Banned Turkish nationalist keeps removing references to Armenian Genocide throughout Wikipedia

User:Shuppiluliuma is a banned Turkish ultranationalist, one of whose main obsessions is removing any mention of the Armenian Genocide from Turkey. He has created dozens of socks to do just that [6]. As soon as one sock is blocked, he creates another one, this one being the latest [7]. I'd rv him myself without thinking twice about it, but I am under a pesky 1R restriction on anything Balkans related, which may or may not include Turkey. Athenean (talk) 04:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Karabakh passports

Hi,

I am currently expanding the pages on passport of unrecognized countries. Does anyone know if Nagorno-Karbakakh issues its own passports ? http://www.karabakh.net/engl/gov?id=52 seems to indicate that they do, however so other sources seem to indicate that only Armenian or old Soviet passport are used. Does anyone know/have a source indicating which is the case ? Travelbird (talk) 17:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. No, Artsakh issues only passports of the Republic of Armenia (also uses the Armenian currency "AMD") for the population to be able to travel in be involved in other international affairs. There can also be population left with old USSR passports or a few with refugee documents only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.75.34.109 (talk) 23:44, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

VERY IMPORTANT

The article Islam in Armenia is a total polygon for Azeri propaganda, telling there is Azeri population, mosques and of Azeri majrity in the late Persian domination history of the territory of Eastern Armenia. Please list it in your watch-lists ASAP!

  1. ^ "Regional Administration Bodies". The Government of the Republic of Armenia. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |accessed= ignored (help)
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