Welcome 2022! - more to come here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
2022 talk begins at #2022 in Freundschaft, 2022 images (my calender pics, new year's resolution "in friendship" and musical events) begin here, and the 2022 diary (my own pictures of places, songs, food, flowers ...) begins here, - just watch if you are interested.
My motto for 2022 is taken from In Freundschaft, an article about a composition by Karlheinz Stockhausen, written by missed Jerome Kohl with whom I often exchanged thoughts in friendship. With great help from friends, it became a GA last year, and I translated it to German on 1 January this year.
While garden was a key topic last year, I want to focus on songs in 2022, beginning with Allein Gott in der Höh sei Ehr, in memory of Erhard Egidi. Other topics are ongoing, and I began to mark groups on my user page. I love collaboration, which also shows there. Just check 2021 for the amazing number of users who began articles we expanded. Thanks also to reviewers, and I do plan to review more and write less, and in writing, focus more on quality than the little daily article, which was a pleasant sport for five years, but not so much in the name of WP:QAI - article improvement. Below I keep - for now - some entries from last year, those related to friendship. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My talk goes like this: on top there's the latest DYK (Elena Gusevaas I write this; next to the TOC are boxes from my life, one for the month (with a pic I took last year, and songs), one for those remembered (Georg Christoph Biller and Heinz Werner Zimmermann now, name bold when on the Main page as Recent deaths that day, but that was yesterday), one for the last concert or opera heard (student concert), one for experience related to the DYK (if there is one, name bold, now Die tote Stadt), one for the last church, with songs (Las Palmas, on vacation, with stylised palm trees for columns). They usually go backwards in time, so yesterdays concert first, last year's opera last.
I archive from time to time, trying to leave no more than 50 discussions at a time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
5 June: Pentecost - family gathering - "peace will conquer the war" - summary · 12 June: my songs, 19 June: more songs, 24 June: St. John's, name day of loved ones, Requiem for Christof May, 26 June: more songs
On 28 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jerome Kohl, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Jerome Kohl, a music theorist of the University of Washington, was recognized internationally as an authority on the composer Karlheinz Stockhausen, publishing a book on his Zeitmaße in 2017? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jerome Kohl. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jerome Kohl), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I looked up to Jerome from the day he came in my life (in 2009, telling me that was a reliable source said about Stockhausen was wrong, - it's still on the talk of Siegfried Palm, my second article), and I imagine our conversations - thoughtful, on a meadow - as pictured, in the spirit of Stockhausen's wonderful titles: In Freundschaft, Kontakte, Originale, Licht ... We never met. We edit-warred over Wittener Tage für neue Kammermusik and Georg Katzer, but always with respect. (If you want a tedious task, change the now deprecated parenthetical references, in hundreds of articles.) We worked together on many other. He thanked me for links to performers of Stockhausen's music, and I tried to mention their relation to the composer on the Main page, see Wolfgang Marschner (intentionally in memory), and before.
Jerome remains an inspiration, for the world. I will remember what he wrote (about Karlheinz Stockhausen and William Waterhouse (bassoonist) who died within a few weeks in 2011, and Stockhausen had just acknowledged WW for a memorial book): "I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A beautiful bouquet of flowers to celebrate the memory of a special person. Well done Gerda. MarnetteD|Talk 17:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have a much simpler guide to arbitration. After spending many months working on it, cutting a word here, finessing a phrase there, I finally arrived at the final version. Here it is, the Ultimate Guide to Arbitration: Don't.
... last line: Das Land ist hell und weit. The land is bright and wide. (written in 1989 in Germany's East, when it was dark and narrow.) Trust the new ways. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
, me too!! Atsme💬📧 18:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
... I'd add User:RexxS/Infobox factors to the essays about accessibility. I miss him... We have a RfC for Peter Sellers, and a reverted infobox (not a good one I admit, but a good one was suggested in 2012) for Cosima Wagner, and in both cases users could just have looked up his essay, instead of saying that once upon a time some "principal authors" said that an accessibility feature was not wanted for "their" FA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for La Passion selon Sade
On 24 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article La Passion selon Sade, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the title of La Passion selon Sade, an opera by Sylvano Bussotti(pictured with star Cathy Berberian), caused a scandal at its premiere and had to be changed for the next performance? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/La Passion selon Sade. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, La Passion selon Sade), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
From an archived thread: Br'er Rabbit, RexxS, LouisAlain, you are my friends, and I am sure that Wikipedia would be better with you than without you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
LouisAlain, this article is dedicated to you! Scandal seems to fit better than a hymn ;) I miss your inspiration, translation of cultural topics you found in obscure corners, good spirits, thankful heart. Thank you for literary context from Kafka to Schopenhauer. You others: please give me some of any of these because I thrive on them. I believe it's a scandal that we found no constructive way of collaboration, - I felt so talking in vain in the AN thread. Au revoir, and for a hymn after all, there's Möge die Straße uns zusammenführen, and telling you and myself: "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hallo Gerda and thanks for completing drafts I involuntarily left behind. Still active on the French Wiki although at a much slower pace than before. Like the Olympics in 1900, the aim and values were praise worthy then and now... I still have fun translating articles from German and English under I.P though, the attribution issue being now completely meaningless.
I post this message from a Parisian cybercafe so if any well meant sysop wants to delete it and block the E.P, who cares ?
Thank you, I love love. Just returned from a concert with mostly French organ music played by the new one at the Boni, details above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Hans Robertson
On 21 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans Robertson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans Robertson ran a studio in 1920s Berlin where he photographed celebrities such as artist Käthe Kollwitz, boxer Max Schmeling and dancer Gret Palucca(pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans Robertson. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hans Robertson), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 4 June 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Victor von Halem, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 21:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, created by LouisAlain, improved by Voceditenore - a great team! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for In Freundschaft
On 28 October 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article In Freundschaft, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that In Freundschaft was composed in friendship by Karlheinz Stockhausen as a clarinet solo for Suzanne Stephens(pictured), and later adapted to the instruments of other friends? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/In Freundschaft. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, In Freundschaft), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Sehr schön, freut mich sehr, besonders auf der Basis meiner damaligen Freundschaft zum Komponisten ,-) LG--Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ein Freund von mir ist Komponist, und sein Vater war ein Freund von Stockhausen, der In Freundschaft komponiert hat, und der Benutzer, der den Artikel über das Werk geschrieben hat, war ein Freund hier, auch wenn ich ihn getroffen habe. Und ein anderer Freund hat in einer Aufführung von Hymnen mitgewirkt, und sich gefreut, dass sie im Artikel erwähnt wird. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:42, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Na, alle Achtung! Hatte mal einen kurzen Wortwechsel mit JK, wusste nicht, dass er 2020+ LG --Ἀστερίσκος (talk) 20:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Q to Beeblebrox
Me and RexxS in happier times....
Hi Gerda, sorry to be a pain in the tail but I reverted this good faith edit because it didn't ask a question. As you can see from the relevant case page, I recommended that Arbcom decline the case and thought that RexxS exhibited no more than mild incivility, that was running rampant throughout the world during the start of COVID, and I agree with SV's comment " I want to add that he is one of the most genuinely kind editors I've had the pleasure to encounter. You may not get fake politeness from him, but you have found a friend if you ever need one." which I can wholeheartedly endorse from personal experience having met him in the pub several times. It would be nice to see if somebody can suggest a constructive action that has a reasonable chance of RexxS returning and contributing to Wikipedia, but I don't think that's it. Sorry. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 11:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ritchie, I don't think you understood. I wanted to know from Beeblebrox if the next time an appeal such as Sarah's - "every editor is a human being" - came around (regardless which case) he would listen. I don't know if he didn't see that appeal then, or saw it but it didn't change things for him. I thought that was clear without a question mark, also that without an answer, I'd not vote for him, or any other who accepted the case, before or after Sarah pleaded, because even arbs may change their mind and should follow the complete request discussion. The relevant discussion happened on Hammersoft's page, urging the one who filed the case to withdraw it, but - as we know - in vain. How may I word my censored question? I want arb's who listen to people like Sarah (knowing that there's no one like her), probably women ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would go with "You accepted the RexxS arbitration case, despite many users including SarahSV suggesting it should be declined, not least because "every editor is a human being". Can you explain how it is acceptable to take action that causes long-term editors to quit the project, and what we might to do mitigate this?" Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 12:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That could be your question ;) - I want only Sarah's, not the others, to keep things "übersichtlich" for someone (unfamiliar with the case, and again, it's not about that particular case) who wants to put the candidate's answer in context (and would have to read only one, not the others). - Let me think a bit, first I have other things to do. My design was to ask candidates not involved in that case: Would you have listened to SarahSV's appeal to decline the case? (with a link), but its a silly question for someone who obviously didn't. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Today, the TFA mentions When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd, created by a QAI member who was banned, the article taken to GA afterwards. Aga Mikolaj was created by banned friend LouisAlain who made the mistake to try to defend himself, which made things worse. RexxS has been criticised for not defending himself (in the arb case that I believe should not have been accepted, and that SlimVirgin pleaded not to accept), but I followed his model (better than falling in the other trap, not really versed in the language, misunderstanding ...). Think about the arb candidates' answers, you all. Some would not listen to SlimVirgin, so probably not to Littleolive oil who defended? ... not to valereee who said an apology worked for her? ... so perhaps not to women in general? I am happy that Opabinia regalis is standing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gianni Schicchi is a comic opera in one act by Giacomo Puccini to an Italian libretto by Giovacchino Forzano, composed in 1917–18. The work is the third and final part of Puccini's Il trittico, three one-act operas with contrasting themes, following the dramatic Il tabarro and the lyric Suor Angelica. The libretto is based on an incident mentioned in Dante's Divine Comedy. Set in 1299 Florence, the title character pretends to be a rich citizen who had died, dictating a new will in favour of the deceased's family members but especially of himself (scene in the premiere pictured). The comedy, a rarity in the composer's work, combines elements of Puccini's modern harmonic dissonances with lyrical passages such as the aria "O mio babbino caro". When Il trittico premiered at New York's Metropolitan Opera on 14 December 1918, only Gianni Schicchi became an immediate hit. It has been performed more frequently than the other two, often combined with other short operas. - TFAtoday by Brian Boulton and Wehwalt
... that conductor Rudolf Pohl, a member of the Aachen Cathedral choir as a boy, brought the Charlemagne-era choir to international recognition in the 1960s?
Thank you, and you made my day with making Edita Gruberová a GA! There were more images in 2021, if you like! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lovely orchestra, and lovely images — thank you for sharing! Joy to the World is one of my favorite carols; my partner and I have been playing it on Christmas mornings for years. Happy New Year to you! — The Most ComfortableChair 11:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, how serene and clear --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Happy New Year, Gerda
Happy New Year from me as well, Gerda. You've lit up my day on so many occasion this past year, thank you!
Von guten Mächten treu und still umgeben, behütet und getröstet wunderbar, so will ich diese Tage mit euch leben und mit euch gehen in ein neues Jahr. — Bonhoeffer
Coincidentally, if such things exist, fi:Hyvyyden voiman ihmeelliseen suojaan is one of my favourite contributions as well, and the hymn deeply important on a personal level (the Finnish version uses a different tune, by Erkki Melartin, that I find sublime). New Year's resolution: read more about Stockhausen and try to listen without getting a headache! – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that In Freundschaft would be a good start. Read - for background - #DYK for Jerome Kohl. While I never met Stockhausen and Jerome in person, I feel privileged to have been a friend of the bassoonist mentioned, - few meetings but memorable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Simple
Gerda, I don't have pictures of fire works. You have many of those already. I could send you pictures of snow but it's the same kind that falls in Germany(cold). No pictures of roaring fires to keep you warm. Just my heart in words wishing you the best for this new year ahead. You have meant the world to me this past year. Your words of encouragement have seen me through tough days. The flowers in Spring and Summer, the Songs and adventurous paths you placed me on kept me occupied and moving forward. I am so very thankful and so very grateful for you and this community. I adore you and cherish our interactions forever. --ARoseWolf 21:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, dear, - I love it simple! I'll come with my snow tomorow ;) - I counted friends met this young year - 11! - and meeting friends is what counts, real or as you and I do here. Happy New Year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar
I don't think I've given someone a barnstar before, and you are the first person that came to mind. I haven't seen as much patience, kindness and civility in most elite contributors as I have seen with you. I hope you have a happy new year! Wretchskull (talk) 13:46, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Gerda. Mere words are not enough to thank you for all that you have shared over the years. Wikipedia is blessed to have you as an editor. Best wishes to you now and always. MarnetteD|Talk 21:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Marnette, you make me blush as above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Die Schneekönigin
On 9 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Die Schneekönigin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Die Schneekönigin, an opera for children by George Alexander Albrecht after Andersen's "The Snow Queen", members of a children's choir play the roles of birds and ice crystals? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Die Schneekönigin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Die Schneekönigin), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
on a day with snow, and DYK ... that the composer introduced me to the major operas? ... I know the woman who inspired the opera? ... the girl's name in the plot is Gerda? ... it's my mom's birthday?
I think it is, not relying on my memory but the archive. Look around for music, - always liked chatting with you on the precious occasions! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for coming over --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gerda, it's truly a pleasure to hear again from a cordial and constructive individual who works to bring light, rather than heat, to Wikipedia and to the world! Nihil novi (talk) 09:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
...coincidentially, also 45th wedding anniversary. David notMD (talk) 09:48, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear User:Gerda Arendt, I wanted to thank you for wishing me on my Precious anniversary. I was very thankful when you gave that award to me and still remain so to this day. I hope that you are doing well. With regards, AnupamTalk 07:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for coming over, - it's really my pleasure to see every morning how many reasons there are to be thankful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gerda, thank you for your precious reminder. I saw your Hans Robertson DYK and admired the photograph. Take good care. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for coming over! The article was by LouisAlain, and all thanks for the image go to Robertson, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since thou wast precious in my sight, thou hast been honourable, and I have loved thee: therefore will I give men for thee, and people for thy life. Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west; I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your anniversary message, and I'm sorry I didn't reply last year! It is good to know that my work, sometimes on strangely-chosen subjects, is appreciated. Andrew Dalby 12:45, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for asking. You will remember that BWV 1 is planned for 25 March. Fine with me if that's not too close. I was thinking of 11 June - private anniversary, when I sang it first, the day before my grandfather's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The schedulers, collectively, would be delighted to run BMV 227 on 7 Feb and BMV 1 on 25 March. Unless you have a strong objection we will do so. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV227, is a motet by Johann Sebastian Bach. The longest and most musically complex of His motets, it is in eleven movements for up to five voices. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck in six stanzas which form the motet's odd-numbered movements, with the hymn tune by Johann Crüger appearing in different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured). The text of even-numbered movements is from the Epistle to the Romans. The hymn, focused on an emotional bond to Jesus, adds complementing aspects to the doctrinal scripture text. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. While the work was supposed to have been written for a specific funeral in Leipzig in July 1723, as proposed in 1912, Christoph Wolff suggested that Bach may have compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first of his motets to be recorded, in 1927.
Supposed to go with the lead image, beginning of the first movement, the music being the same also for the last movement, just different text. Should I formally request on TFAR, Gog the Mild? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - I had just set that up to work on myself, so it saves me a job and you will do it better. No need to formally request, I'm on it. Your draft is 1.098 characters long, including spaces. The limit is 1,025. Would you prefer to trim it, or should I have a go? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I gave it a bit of copy-editing. If still too long, the last sentence could be dropped, or would you have a better idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How is this?
Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV227, is a motet by Johann Sebastian Bach. The longest and most musically complex of his motets, it is in eleven movements for up to five voices. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck, the six stanzas of which form the motet's odd-numbered movements, with different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured) making up the hymn tune, composed by Johann Crüger. The text of the even-numbered movements is from the Epistle to the Romans. The hymn focuses on an emotional bond to Jesus and Bach's treatment of Crüger's melody ranges from a four-part chorale harmonisation which begins and ends the work, to a chorale fantasia. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. It has been suggested that Bach compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first of his motets to be recorded, in 1927.
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Sorry, made me smile ;) -. "with different styles of chorale setting (beginning pictured) making up the hymn tune, composed by Johann Crüger" - no, first came the hymn tune, then Bach's chorale settings of it. If we had room to mention the different settings in detail, all you mentioned were less interesting than the "free" one with only bits of the melody quoted, for Trotz, defiance. - I feel we do have to mention the funeral, because although the evidence that it is not so was there from the 1990s, many program notes today (and some of the sources) still say with certainty that is was composed for that event. Wolff is quite the authority, so I'd mention him by name, or the suggestion could be dismissed. - Bedtime. You can schedule, and we polish afterwards, hopefully with Dank and Dying helping. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The funeral, I think that there is little chance that you will get onto the main page mention of something that is not believed to be so. And trying to explain it uses a lot of characters. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:22, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gog the Mild, the funeral theory was wrong but held for almost a century, and many still believe it, - I think we need to explicitly say so. New try:
Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV227, is a motet by J. S. Bach composed in Leipzig and unusually set for up to five voices. It is his longest motet, in eleven movements, and musically his most complex, in several layers of symmetry. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck in six stanzas which became the motet's odd-numbered movements, while the text of the other movements is taken from the Epistle to the Romans. The emotional hymn and the doctrinal scripture text complement each other. Bach used the hymn tune by Johann Crüger in five different chorale settings (beginning pictured). While the work was believed to be funeral music, since a Leipzig church musician argued in 1912 for a specific funeral in July 1723, his evidence was refuted in 1995, and Christoph Wolff concluded that Bach may have compiled it for the education of his choir in both composition techniques and theology. It was the first Bach motet to be recorded, in 1927. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Promised: not that it matters much, but there will be articles about the one who claimed the funeral thingy, and the one who refuted, by when it appears. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I took your point earlier. And have included a brief mention in the draft - here. Feel free to edit this draft, and/or make comments on its talk page Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, seen and I like your phrasing, no changes right now, - I'll wait what the others say --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, i have copyedited the blurb, taking the discussion here into account. feel free to undo any part of my edit if you prefer the original wording or if i have made any mistakes. hopefully, the comments i left in my edit explain my reasoning sufficiently, though i think i should make a few additional points.
i am not sure if it would be better to say that wolf "suggested" his theory (as stated in the article) rather than "believed" it, but i ended up leaving the verb used in the blurb alone. feel free to change that if you think it should conform to the article.
i took the liberty of creating a template for the "BWV" abbreviation, as
the abbreviation and tooltip text are regularly used in articles on bach's works;
bach was prolific, so there is potential for the template to be used more than just a few times;
it improves readability of the code; and
the template automatically inserts a non-breaking space between the abbreviation and the numeral following (if provided).
for example, as seen in the blurb, the code "{{BWV|227}}" inserts the text "BWV 227". i believe its use does not violate any standards for the main page, as the circa template is regularly used in blurbs. please let me know if it violates any other standards that i might not be aware of, such as those of the relevant wikiprojects.
if bach's initials are used, i believe there should be a non-breaking space between the "J." and the "S.", to conform with mos:initials. note that, in tfa blurbs, the html entity " " is generally used instead of the nbsp template.
i feel that, for someone unfamiliar with motets and movements, the phrase "his longest and most musically complex motet in eleven movements for up to five voices" may be misinterpreted to mean that, amongst the motets in the eleven movements, this motet was the longest and most musically complex one. perhaps replacing "motet in" with "motet, with" would avoid such a misinterpretation.
i cannot tell if a link to "motet" was deliberately omitted, but if not, the second instance of the word can easily be linked.
apologies for the delayed response; currently, i cannot seem to find the time to address blurbs much earlier than a week before they appear on the main page. in any case, i appreciate the ping, as it allowed me to think about this blurb over a few days, and i do not know if i would have noticed this discussion without it. dying (talk) 18:50, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
no apologies needed, thank you for your help which I looked forward to (see earlier in the thread). perhaps i should have pinged you then but didn't want to put you under pressure). - the template is fine, thank you! I'd prefer Bach's full name, just proposed to abbreviate it to save a few characters. - how about this: In eleven movements for up to five voices, it is his longest and most musically complex motet? - yes, a link to "motet" was deliberately omitted, because this isn't the typical motet, and a reader with no idea what a motet is may get a link from the list of motets, still sort of a detour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
oh, sorry if i was not clear before; i actually did get the earlier ping above (hence my apology for the delayed response). interestingly, however, your ping on the blurb's talk page failed, though i luckily stumbled upon your message anyway, albeit after writing the above response. hopefully, this edit addresses your concerns.by the way, for future reference, i do not mind being pinged significantly before a blurb is scheduled to appear on the main page (even though, admittedly, it might take me a while to respond properly). so feel free to ping me without worrying about putting me under pressure. dying (talk) 20:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations, Gerda Arendt! The article you nominated, Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Gog the Mild (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank yoo, both. The article is the work of many, just check the the GA nominations, PR and FAC. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations. I had intended on taking a look when you first told me about it, then totally forgot. I'm glad we have you. Urve (talk) 09:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Gerda, Fabulous pictures! The living masses resolving into receding poems from the painter's palate, the volumes rolling away like a tide. Domini est terra, et plenitudo eius - Quam admirabile est Nomen Tuum! (that's two different places...). Levavi oculos meos in montes unde veniet auxilium mihi. The whole world causes one to raise up one's eyes into the infinite firmament. Thankyou, I wish I were there. I do hope you took your auloi with you. - Blessings, Eebahgum (talk) 21:09, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for coming over. I took no instrument, but sang in the open air ;) - Hebe deine Augen auf (Levavi ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Hebe auf" - makes it sound such an effort! I, too, sing out loud in the open air, giving to all and sundry the appearance of my being a madman. I sang an entire Psalm (to my own music) when on my own halfway up a very high hill in Snowdonia, before realizing that the top of the hill was rather beyond my reach. And when I go into an empty parish church in the country I often sing one. I sang one to God alone in St Margaret South Elmham in Suffolk one drowsy afternoon in 2020, and just as I finished I realized that I was not alone at all - the entire church was full of sleepy hornets - there was one sitting just beside me (and I have the allergy if I am stung), so I stole away home, or at least, out of the church, rather gingerly... Cortona S Maria NuovaBack in March 1989 I was staying at Cortona in Italy and walked over to the Franciscan cells at Le Celle by the road which sweeps around the contour of the hillside like a vast amphitheatre, looking down towards Il Sodo and the top corner of the Val di Chiana. Half-way around (coming back from the cells) I stopped, and, checking that I was quite alone, "This is surely better than La Scala" thought I, so I stood looking out over the descending hillside and let rip with a very full-throated rendering of "Dai campi, dai prati" (Boito, Mefistofele) in my best baritone declamation. Hoping I was not disturbing the monks in their celle, I enjoyed myself so much I sang "Giunto sul passo estremo" as well, possibly twice, into the deliciously cool but sunny air. It seemed to be going well... As I concluded, con gusto ("voglio che questo sogno sia la santa poesia: è l'ultimo bisogno dell'esistenza mia"), an Italian guide with a party of about 30 nice American ladies suddenly popped out from behind a nearby bush, and the guide remarked kindly, "You have found yourself an excellent theatre!" We all laughed, and everyone was very nice about it. I don't think I had quite ruined their morning, nor they mine, but I didn't reprise after that: the diffidence took over. It was the same week I did this sslightly peculiar sketch of the church a little lower down the same hillside. Younger days... Eebahgum (talk) 23:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You opened my eyes and ears, lovely, thank you. Spectacular even, - I love the sketch, and wish I had been one of those ladies! Recommended reading for all who watch this page. Singing (up to quartet) at the Gnadenthal church on bike tours is all I can offer in return ;) - on 13 June last year with the subject of my first article, - he set Psalm 121 for choir and organ, and nobody performed it yet, because the organ part is too difficult. I better upload an image of the interior. - When we sang the gently soaring Mendelssohn (pictured on my user page this year) the chaplain on duty kindly said that women's choir has been called "wie im Himmel" (as in Heaven) in Salzburg. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Eebahgum - then you might enjoy the oft-repeated story of the Soviet Russian tenor Victor Nikitin who was born with a beautiful voice, but missed all or most of his training due to war, but when he sang in the trenches the German soldiers stopped firing to listen. And on another track - I (who have no religion) have always wanted to stand on top of a mountain at dawn and sing Sol Ovitur - a mediaeval hymn to Jesus as the rising sun, with the melody and the melismas taken straight and unaltered from the Arab tradition. As John Lennon said - "imagine there's no countries". Storye book (talk) 11:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou for that - difficult to get up that mountain and then sing those melismata without the aspirates, at any rate for me (for any hill makes me huff and puff nowadays)! ;- It's said that Caruso used to call the daily news to the neighbouring hilltop village in his youth. And if your "hill" happens to be F6, who knows what you, or anyone else, may find at the top of it? The Book of Samuel warns us against worship of high places. Eebahgum (talk) 12:12, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Eebahgum, I have been surrounded by mountains most of my life. From Italy where we lived in the Piedmont, to Montana, to Alaska (two mountain ranges), I love climbing. I have now worn a path to my favorite overlook of the lake from Sirr Mt. Even in snow that is feet deep I will walk or mush to sing my morning songs as often as possible. I have done this for as long as I can remember every where I have lived. My songs are different than most but they are sung from my heart and my Spirit. They often are of those I love and care about. They are also songs of thanks to creator and the universe. They are tributes to the Colors I hear and the Songs I see around me. Sometimes I drag my cello or carry a flute or take my bowls to play. On the rare occasion I am accompanied by a friend that brings his drum. When he is not with me my heart keeps beat. It is not a life for everyone, there are hardships around ever bend in the river, but it is a life I love and a life I intend to live as full as I possibly can. I will sing a song for you and the little one. --ARoseWolf 14:38, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou, Asareel. Eebahgum (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you all, and don't miss edit summary "A symphony is heard from the tops of the mountain to the depth of the sea, a symphony of Life and Love". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Abyssus abyssum invocat in voce cataractarum tuarum", he says in Psalm 42/41. And from the Soul to the Firmament. Eebahgum (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Did you ever see this? - Hi Gerda, I just saw this (from 2009) on the internet and find we are both in it! And for the right reasons...! I didn't know I was such a pompous windbag back in 2009 (but it comes as no surprise). I wonder if you ever saw it? Maybe I did, and have forgotten, but the Internet is (almost) eternal. That is even pre-Precious... I had only been editing for 3 years! Eebahgum (talk) 22:04, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(Scrolling down) and I seem to have responded at the time but had totally forgotten about it. I am a dotard Eebahgum (talk) 22:10, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
no, had not seen that, cute, thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 1 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Heinz Werner Zimmermann, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 17:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
as you can read on my user page: begun by Dr. Blofeld, expanded by Nikkimaria, further expanded together, and I thought about having lost RexxS for this project when I heard it last year --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since you are kind enough to thank everyone else on the day of their TFAs: thank you today for Jesu, meine Freude, BWV 227, as you describe it: "Bach's longest motet, with a complex text alternating hymn stanzas from "Jesu, meine Freude" with biblical text from Paul's Letter to the Romans. The music, in a symmetrical arrangement of 11 movements, displays various vocal scorings (from 3 to 5 voices) and compositional variation and finesse. For the longest time, the motet was believed to have been composed for a certain funeral, but recent scholarship questioned that."! DanCherek (talk) 03:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Dan, that's lovely! It was the work of many writing, reviewing, inspiring, - thanks to all! (more later) It played a special role in my life (perhaps more later). For the record the entry as Br'er Rabbit might have wanted it:
Beginning of the first movement
Jesu, meine Freude (Jesus, my joy), BWV 227, is a motet by J. S. Bach. In eleven movements for up to five voices, it is his longest and most musically complex motet. It is named after the 1653 Lutheran hymn "Jesu, meine Freude" by Johann Franck; the hymn's six stanzas form the motet's odd-numbered movements. Bach used the hymn tune by Johann Crüger in five different chorale settings(example pictured). The hymn's text focuses on an emotional bond to Jesus, complementing the doctrinal text from the Epistle to the Romans used for the even-numbered movements. Jesu, meine Freude is one of the few works by Bach for five vocal parts, in a structure of symmetries on different layers. It is unclear when the motet was written. Bach scholar Christoph Wolff believed that Bach may have compiled it to educate his choir incomposition techniques and theology; an earlier theory that it was written for a 1723 funeral in Leipzig is now discredited. In 1927, it became the first of Bach motets to be recorded.
"Jesus, my joy"; wonderful words, especially in these times. A good read! Panini!🥪 13:53, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad to see another editor had the same thought as me (thanks, DanCherek!) and came to your page to give you a thanks. Nice work here, Gerda. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, both, and - as said above - the many others involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Gerda, and all the others, for writing this up so beautifully. Drmies (talk) 16:37, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What an absolute joy to read and very deserving of TFA. Gerda and others, the writing of this article very eloquently describes this beautiful motet. Thank you to all involved! --ARoseWolf 18:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you two, blushing a bit. For the album: 7 February 2022, - two women pictured, I like that, and late also Neuenfels (for whom I need to do a bit more). Help with George Crumb welcome, everybody. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
both these articles are better, but improvements still wanted --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
this looks like a good idea, countering all the battles, but - with a backlog of my own projects - I feel I can't commit to serious work. Call me when translations from German are needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I've been thinking about this a lot today. Those poor people, and I fear their suffering is just beginning. Coincidentally, -- well, sort of -- I was just listening to Dmitry Bortniansky. Antandrus(talk) 22:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I woke up determined to expand the article, and translate it, - help? We so far have Ukainian, Moldavian, Italian and Japanese. I'll do German. Please note other plans here for coordination. Anybody bold enough for Russian? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your terrific work on the Prayer for Ukraine article—I think I'm going to put some things aside to work on Mykola Lysenko's article. I was considering trying to start some kind of event at the CM project page to work on Ukranian music articles, what do you think about this? I feel like I (or you and I, if you have any interest) could assemble a list of important articles for the project to work on. Not sure if it would be limited to composers, maybe also performers or genres? If you don't have time, I understand, just thought I'd ask about it! I did finally get around to adding more to Crumb's article, by the way, though I think Lysenko will take priority for the time being. Aza24 (talk) 00:23, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you so much - and I woke up thinking that I'd mobilise QAI ;) - I first want to polish the article some more, and nominate for DYK, and then see what's missing, first from the OREYA playlist and the essay about composers cited in the article. If you could add sources to the hymn from what you find for Lysenko, that would be great. We had Kateryna Kasper. Usually, new "needed articles" just come by red links for me, but feel free to do it more formally for CM. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, lovely! Thank you for your work on this article, the message(s) you left on my talk page, and of course, prayers for Ukraine. Panini!•🥪 00:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
not a ref but don't miss video of a Swedish and a Ukrainian chidren's choir together --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dan, do you think we should some of these? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your work on the article and for the DYK nomination. I'll look through these and add some. I don't think the Toronto99 SNL one is needed though, the existing sources in the article cover that performance pretty well. DanCherek (talk) 19:39, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
...though I like their link to The Ukrainian Weekly with some background about the New York choir and will probably use that. DanCherek (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dan, motherjones - has a good pic and description, including that only last minute/seconds you see what the candles spell --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Prayer for Ukraine you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Serial Number 54129 -- Serial Number 54129 (talk) 08:40, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(It's just a couple of references though, nothing major. SN54129 15:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC))[reply]
Thank You
Thank you, Gerda. I had to chuckle a little about your edit summary here though. I did not know that you are wary of Arbcom. But then I understood your edit. :) --Gereon K. (talk) 11:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was admonished and restricted, and never understood why. I wrote He was despised before, and protested just standing and singing. That is still my only weapon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Singing is a powerful weapon. --ARoseWolf 13:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Gerda, for drawing our attention to this. We will be using it. Bermicourt (talk) 10:47, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lyceum 25, Zhytomyr, after an airstrike during Russian invasion
thank you, - see above about translating to other languages --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Prayer for Ukraine
Hello Gerda! I have seen you posting on some people's talk pages about Prayer for Ukraine (nothing bad about it). Today I"m going to get the chance to play the song for myself. I'm glad that there are people out there who do support Ukraine (including me), they really need it. I watched a video recently about how this war started, and it appears it's just because Russia is jealous that Ukraine was able to find a lot of natural gas, making Ukraine second to Russia in natural gas (i may be misinterpreting that as I tend to have terrible memory). Hope you continue to do well. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know that. Assuming you are referring to the photo with the flowers (which is the one I see that mentions the song) it looks very pretty. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
now I don't know which you mean, - I talk about the one beginning the thread #Ukraine here, of a choir from Zhytomyr, - another photo from there just above. I take many of flowers, so that may also be by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah my bad. I was looking at the one at the top of this page (below the DYK part). That still looks very good. Also, I just noticed that at the top of your talk page, there's this string of text: Faure Requiem Manuscript.gif I would assume that's meant to display as an image/gif? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:18, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, very observant - it was used for a "in memoriam" box --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah alright. Anyways, I hope you have a good day(/night/evening/whatever time it is for you). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have a user page where you can find out ;) - best wishes for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
RFC
I started a RFC on the DYK talk page with a mention of Prayer for Ukraine. SL93 (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The RFC closed in the best way possible. Prayer for Ukraine is now in prep 6. SL93 (talk) 19:00, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nabucco
Sorry, I took my eyes off my watchlist and when I returned just now, the clock had just ticked over midnight at UTC and the item has disappeared off the mainpage. And by the way, this edit did not trigger a ping as explained in the lead of Help:Notifications (look for the word in bold font). Schwede66 00:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I thought you were watching , and if not had more important things to do, as I had. I know that a ping works only with a new signature, but when my mind is somewhere else I forget. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 14 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anna Korsun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Anna Korsun, a composer who studied in Kyiv and Munich, and teaches in Amsterdam, was awarded a scholarship at the Villa Massimo in Rome in 2018? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Korsun. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Anna Korsun), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
More thanks to you GA. I think that the first time I heard Freude changed to Freiheit was a concert conducted by Leonard Bernstein with the VP celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:53, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly, that was the model. Did you hear bass and choir pronounce it in the video, very crisp, also "Kuss". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes :-) Thanks for mentioning it so your talk page watchers will be aware of it! MarnetteD|Talk 15:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It could be their award for speaking up in the discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for sharing, and make a DYK please --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:45, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For speaking
Thank you for speaking at the RFC. You were not alone in your exasperation. You said above "the only real nation is humanity". Since COVID started, I have increasingly been turning to the work of David Wojnarowicz; reading him has become some sort of ritual. I had read him before, but there was never a sense of resonance until then. Weight of the Earth is a written collection of his spoken journals, and pages 119 to 120 contain the following: "My feeling is that the imagination is the key to breaking through pre-invented existence: that in imagination, we can break the images of borders—we can break through the borders of countries, we can break through existing structures of government, or we can break through whatever systems of control are on our shoulders." Thank you for your part in Prayer for Ukraine. Urve (talk) 04:50, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you for support and sharing - the short version is quoted from the edit notice of a banned friend whom I quote in my edit notice (which to like was his last edit here, afaik, and sadly the last I heard of him) which in turn is a quote from Lord of the Flies. Imagine ... Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Flowers of peace against all odds. El_C 12:47, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, DanCherek, Grimes2, thanks to all of you for your excellent work. Y'all exemplify the best of what our community can do. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Drmies! It was an enjoyable one to work on, and always a pleasure to collaborate with others :) DanCherek (talk) 01:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
blushing - let's not forget Микола Василечко and the gnomes for this article, and strong support of many for the connected articles, also reviewers, and those in the processes to bring things to the Main page: thanks to all of you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oleksandr Oksanchenko didn't ask for this war or for it to claim his life but he took a stand for what he believed in. I will not judge a warrior's heart on the merit of his fight but how well he fought for what he believed. Thank you Gerda for nominating and everyone that contributed to this wonderful article. It was an incredible read about an amazing Song. --ARoseWolf 14:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article Prayer for Ukraine you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Prayer for Ukraine for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message not delivered by Legobot, due to some sort of bot-malfunction, apologies for the manual handling and concomitant delay, on behalf of Serial Number 54129 -- Serial Number 54129 (talk) 14:18, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
while the bot didn't do its job, you found the perfect position, SN - it appeared on DYK yesterday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You are 3C Royalty. Thank you for your continued, consistent community-minded work. I hope you are thoroughly enjoying being outside. :) Hmlarson (talk) 17:23, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
blushing - yes, thoroughly, and your comment also! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 25 March 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Michail Jurowski, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
sad record: three on one day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:30, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
... two of them from Ukraine, the third a Russian who left Moscow in 1990, and then went on to conduct the orchestra where my brother plays. I just listened to a live opera from Hannover, and after applause, the whole ensemble performed Prayer for Ukraine, and the announcer said they do that after every performance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DanCherek: Now that you've shown your grasp of tonal harmony, you need to take it up to the next notch and do like Charles Ives and put the same melody on itself, but in different tonalities ([1])... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That guy rules. You overestimate me, though – I posted that and then immediately thought, "Wait, am I allowed to make a bass sing D4?" DanCherek (talk) 15:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DanCherek:Yep (bar 11; along with a few voice crossings...). If you look at it deep enough, you'll see rules are more like guidelines than what you'd call actual rules... Even the most fundamental ones. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:25, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Surreal Barnstar
For being the second person to get Wall-to-wall coverage with four simultaneous pieces of content (across three sections). Thanks for all the Main Page work you do! — Bilorv (talk) 11:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulation Gerda. Grimes2 (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Olga Bezsmertna
On 29 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Olga Bezsmertna, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after the Ukrainian soprano Olga Bezsmertna won the Neue Stimmen competition in 2011 (pictured), she was engaged at the Vienna State Opera? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olga Bezsmertna. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Olga Bezsmertna), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
she sang "dove sono ..." - where did the happy moments go? - for the competition (yt, + 2020 Vienna stage yt) and in Munich now, where the Ukrainian flag topped the opera house, the facade was lighed with blue and yellow, and she came to the curtain call covered with the flag, then held by her and the conductor, Christopher Moulds - stand and sing. - dove sono ...interview in German "Ich mache nur was ich fühle (I only do what I feel) - pos. 1--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for more inspiration! - I have tickets for a concert of Kyiv Symphony Orchestra on 28 April, and they also play in Hannover and Hamburg. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda has tickets for a concert in Wiesbaden. Grimes2 (talk) 18:51, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Story time: The first (and sadly, only) time I saw Floyd live, I kept telling everyone in the car (van: many of us): I'd be so happy if they'd play Astronomy Domine... And then they opened with it! Everyone looked at me with awe, and for the next few days, I was a prophet. El_C 13:13, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Very cool. Love the old stuff. It's difficult to describe the feelings it evokes. It's at the same time primal and primordial and primeval but also understated and nuanced and haunting. So good. El_C 16:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I used to have repeated dreams that had renditions of Echoes that do not exist IRL. Tens and tens of them. And they were always really profound, leaving with a strong feeling of I've heard that rendition before (wait, did I?). But it's been years since I had one of those dreams. El_C 16:34, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Chanson à bouche fermée
On 11 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chanson à bouche fermée, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chanson à bouche fermée, a 1933 choral piece composed by Jehan Alain, is sung without text and with a closed mouth? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chanson à bouche fermée. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Chanson à bouche fermée), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 15 April 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Larysa Khorolets, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 11:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Oksana Shvets
On 15 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oksana Shvets, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ukrainian actress Oksana Shvets, who was killed in the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, starred in the 2013 joint Ukrainian–Russian television family saga House with Lilies alongside Russian actors? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oksana Shvets. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Oksana Shvets), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 16 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Artem Datsyshyn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Artem Datsyshyn, the National Opera of Ukraine's principal dancer in ballets such as Swan Lake and La Bayadère, is said to have danced with "romantic sublimity" and "psychological depth"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Artem Datsyshyn. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Artem Datsyshyn), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 19 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article European Theatre Convention, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2014 the European Theatre Convention started a programme known as Dialogue of Cultures to support exchanges with theatres in Ukraine and other Eastern European countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/European Theatre Convention. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, European Theatre Convention), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 20 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Monika Buczkowska, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Monika Buczkowska, who made her stage debut as a student in Poznań as Mozart's Susanna, was a soloist in Beethoven's Ninth Symphony at a charity concert for Ukraine at the Alte Oper? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Monika Buczkowska. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Monika Buczkowska), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 23 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Judita Nagyová, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during a German charity concert for Ukraine, Slovakian singer Judita Nagyová performed a solo in the finale of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Judita Nagyová. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Judita Nagyová), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 25 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Maks Levin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a photograph by Maks Levin, showing destroyed buildings in Kyiv, was featured on the cover of a March 2022 edition of the German magazine Der Spiegel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Maks Levin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Maks Levin), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
he said: "Every Ukrainian photographer dreams of taking a photo that will stop the war." - funeral: respect to "a man who was dedicated to the service of the truth"
... that Kyiv's Molodyy Theatre is located in the same mansion (pictured) originally occupied by Les Kurbas's first theatre of the same name? (1 - 10 May)
... that the melody of Mozart's aria "Dove sono" from Le nozze di Figaro, asking "Where are those happy moments ...?", begins similarly to the Agnus Dei from his earlier Coronation Mass? (3 - 28 April)
... that a reviewer noted that when Leo Hussain conducted Weinberg's Die Passagierin at the Oper Frankfurt, the orchestra excelled in chamber music moments, hard beats and distorted entertainment music? (4 - 4 May)
... that a photograph by Maks Levin, showing destroyed buildings in Kyiv, was featured on the cover of a March 2022 edition of the German magazine Der Spiegel? (6 - 25 April)
... that Klaus Wallrath composed a mass for peace for the 2018 Katholikentag in Münster, performed to an audience of more than 30,000 by a choir, an orchestra, and a dance company? (8 - 3 May)
On 21 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article AJ Glueckert, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that AJ Glueckert appeared at the Metropolitan Opera as Erik in 2017, described as a "clarion sensitive tenor", and at the Oper Frankfurt as Flamand in 2018, with "passionate power"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/AJ Glueckert. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, AJ Glueckert), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
the bass in the same performance --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:47, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Ruslana Pysanka
On 10 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ruslana Pysanka, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ruslana Pysanka, who hosted a Ukrainian television program together with Volodymyr Zelenskyy from 2008, died as a refugee in Germany? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ruslana Pysanka. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ruslana Pysanka), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 8 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hans-Karl von Kupsch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hans-Karl von Kupsch, who was instrumental in the unification of the East and West German booksellers' associations, ran a gallery of contemporary art together with his wife? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hans-Karl von Kupsch. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hans-Karl von Kupsch), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
been at the gallery, introduced to works by Karlheinz Oswald(example pictured), been to the Oper Frankfurt together, and a premiere there was the last time I met him. pos. 5. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Messiah
Messiah (HWV 56) is an English-language sacred oratorio composed in 1741 by George Frideric Handel. Its text was compiled by Charles Jennens from the King James Bible and the Book of Common Prayer. It covers episodes related to the Messiah mostly in verses from the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation. Handel structured the work in three parts, each in scenes as in Baroque opera. Part I covers prophecies, the birth of Jesus and his work, Part II focuses on his Passion, while Part III deals with the resurrection of the dead. Messiah was first performed in Dublin on 13 April 1742, with a small orchestra of trumpets, oboes, strings and continuo. After an initially modest reception, the oratorio became one of the most frequently performed Western choral works, often adapted to large orchestras and choirs after Handel's death. Mozart modified the instrumentation in his arrangement Der Messias to a German text. The famous Hallelujah chorus, concluding Part II, is often performed individually.
Your photograph of Glory of the snow (Scilla luciliae) is gorgeous. To me, it represents new life...spring eternal. Atsme💬📧 21:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you - that's what I feel - they were loaded with snow but survived --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:16, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Easter - or spring - or awakening - or resilience - or moving forward - or what you want to celebrate! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Dove sono
On 28 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dove sono, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the melody of Mozart's aria "Dove sono" from Le nozze di Figaro, asking "Where are those happy moments ...?", begins similarly to the Agnus Dei from his earlier Coronation Mass? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dove sono. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dove sono), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 13 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ladislaja Harnoncourt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as a young girl, Countess Ladislaja Harnoncourt was thought to be uneducatable and was nicknamed the "wild Laja"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ladislaja Harnoncourt. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ladislaja Harnoncourt), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I added a ref, no new content (hard to translate, how she poured water over her son to tame a fury), just lovely pics, one of the three eldest boys making music - infectious singing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you ;) - but some think she isn't even notable --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:00, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure who that was, but it certainly wasn't me. My issue was solely with the original hook. SL93 (talk) 02:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I now noticed the article talk page discussion. That's too bad. SL93 (talk) 02:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for coming over, no, not you :) - it all depend on how "notable" is defined: a person who fulfills Wikipedia's rulez about references, or a personality people want to know about. Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Luigi Gaggero
On 8 June 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Luigi Gaggero, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Luigi Gaggero conducted the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra in Germany in April 2022, restoring Lyatoshynsky's Symphony No. 3 to its 1951 version, with the last movement themed "Peace will conquer war"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Luigi Gaggero. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Luigi Gaggero), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 12 June 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Christof May, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
we prayed today for him, to be in God's loving presence --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Gerda. If you have the source for his date of birth, please add to the wikibio. I'm not inserting the {CN} tag while the link is on MainPage, so I'm leaving a note here on your usertalk. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 17:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I found no source for the exact date of birth, only the year 1973.[1]
Thank you so much for your kind words and message. It really does help. Wikipedia was getting a bit of a grind and your words gave me renewed energy. I found this and I thought you might like it, a prayer written by a recently deceased Wikipedian, Jzsj, who started writing on Wikipedia when he was 79 years old and added so many articles:
"Lord, I pray that I may see the grace in this pandemic.
When it ends, may I not return to business as usual,
but rather may I have grown more eager
to adorn my life with good works,
in preparation for the eternal banquet of heaven."
Fr Jack Zupez sj
Cardofk, thank you so much for the prayer and knowing its author however late! - We prayed for a priest who recently died, also at church. I am open to advice about taking his good deads (we know well) to DYK without ignoring the less good deads (we don't know well). Everybody. I know being silent would be easiest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
which I rehearsed but didn't make it to the performance --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
changed to ... that songs from the collection "Auf dem Weg durch diese Nacht" (On the way through this night) were performed at the 2022 Katholikentag? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
a good song for ways through the night, - a recording with the author (during the lockdown in 2020, not knowing the nights we experience now) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Memory lane: I was blessed with an inspirational concert at Lutherkirche Wiesbaden, called Salmo! - referring to singing psalms which they did, making me think of Yoninah. The complete program is at MDR their first summer program with Andreas Reize, the new choir master, the 18th Thomaskantor after Bach, which they performed in Leipzig, Merseburg, Suhl, and in Wiesbaden on 8 July for Rheingau Musik Festival.
The place was the first building I visited when I arrived in town because it's near the main station. It was also where I sang Bach's Komm, o Tod, des Schlafes Bruder and Mozart's Requiem with Frank Stähle, whose birthday is on 12 July.
Salmo: the boys sang Psalms 150 by Ernani Aguiar (Salmo 150), 100 by Heinrich Schütz, 84 by Johann Hermann Schein, and 149 (+ another line from 150) in Bach's motet. The review's image shows the conductor with some boys. It's detailed and all praise but sadly not going beyond Mendelssohn, while we found the late works especially impressive, - listen to the 2009 Locus iste by Paul Mealor and the 2000 Sleep by Eric Whitace. The encore was an arrangement of Bach's Air on the text Dona nobis pacem - what we need.
I captured the conductor happy. - Today is another birthday, celebrated in Brazil, so Salmo 50 is the right song ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Did you know...
... that I admire you dedication and enthusiasm for did you knows, and I have always loved your hooks — they have always been "interesting" to me. I hope you are not disheartened by the recent discussion on this topic because I would hate to see you participate less in the process. As someone who is guilty of writing a hook which might seem uninteresting to some but not to me, I understand where you are at. If you feel the need for help, I am here — I can suggest ALTs to the hooks you nominate, which you may feel that might not appeal to a broader audience or if they get held up in the nomination phase for the same reason. For the record, I see nothing wrong with your hooks and they have always fascinated me. I do not believe that you should amend your ways, because, at least to me, there is nothing to amend. Thank you for all your DYK work! — The Most ComfortableChair 11:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you and don't worry, I'm not disheartened. I will keep saying substantial about subjects, and if that is not welcome, so be it. You can review, and argue, if you like. I am happy with company. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I definitely will not be arguing with you, because I agree with you. I hope you continue producing quality content, as you have been for very many years. — The Most ComfortableChair 11:03, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not argue with me, argue with the others ;) - but better: you do a review. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A kitten for you!
Thank you very much for distributing wonderful gestures of appreciation around Wikipedia, tirelessly and with an unbreakable belief in the spirit of the project.
On 20 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wilma Schmidt, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the favourite role of Wilma Schmidt, who performed at the Staatsoper Hannover for more than five decades in German, Italian and Slavic operas, was the Marschallin in Der Rosenkavalier? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wilma Schmidt. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wilma Schmidt), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
What Bader was for tenors, she was for sopranos roles, but I didn't see her as the Marschallin. I remember Elisabetta in Don Carlos well. I took the photo when visiting Sibylle. She gave me Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud, about seeking delight when it's not obvious. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 23 July 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Alice Harnoncourt, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:20, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well wishes
I see that you're offline for a while. Enjoy the vacay! I initially stopped by to extend my condolences and sincere sympathy for your loss as someone who experienced the loss of a sister on July 16th, and knows full well the emotional roller coaster of grieving. Stay strong, sweet Gerda. Atsme💬📧 12:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you. Memorial service in Hannover tomorrow (opera house pictured by me), so still away. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just dropping a note under here. Be safe, Gerda, and know that my thoughts are in your direction. I am so sorry for your loss and I hope it is a beautiful memorial service. I will hold off on writing to you until you return. --ARoseWolf 19:24, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, both. Home from vacation, tired, more after sleep, when on the way to Hannover. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Messe modale en septuor
On 28 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Messe modale en septuor, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that organist Jehan Alain's Messe modale en septuor was written for a septet of soprano, alto, flute and string quartet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Messe modale en septuor. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Messe modale en septuor), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
seen 25 June, with Sibylle's husband among others --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Precious
Gerda, you send out these little jewels and beautiful messages titled "Precious" but I want you to know that the real precious is you. You have no idea what you have meant to me over the last two years, the last year especially. Thank you for your incredible light and the beauty of the Song I hear from you. All the pictures, songs, articles and DYK's are masterpieces to me. We all have rough edges and there is no doubt that many could find something to disagree with about any of us but you are a lovely person and an amazing editor and I truly believe I wouldn't be alive today without the "garden talks" we have had during my darkest days. I love you very much, as a fellow editor, a friend, and a sister. You are my Precious and a shining jewel. I may still check in from time-to-time and I'll make sure to leave a little note for you or ping you when I do. Keep shining and take care of yourself. --ARoseWolf 17:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
just precious, especially that you don't leave us alone, friend and sister! Today is a friend's birthday, he gave me a song, I went to a concert, and they sang that song! You may be the one person not surprised ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'll keep this in my treasure chest. Will you give us a pic of your mountain some day? And could you name a song for my list, where What a Wonderful World was a gift after the funeral? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, I will get you a pic of the mountains surrounding our homestead. And I may just throw myself in the picture too. Much love, Wiki or otherwise --ARoseWolf 20:36, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 30 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article R. B. Schlather, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that R. B. Schlather directed the world premiere of Hertzberg's chamber opera The Rose Elf in Brooklyn, as well as Cimarosa's L'Italiana in Londra and Puccini's Madama Butterfly at the Oper Frankfurt? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/R. B. Schlather. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, R. B. Schlather), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I saw the two latter ones, a comedy and a tragedy. which would make me interested in his future work no matter which piece - he has a great gift to tell stories on a simple stage with plenty of emotion, look and listen. Today is my parent's anniversary, and I like to keep the blue stairs to heaven for the occasion. - "Danket dem Herrn" was our daily prayer. Danket, danket dem Herrn. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for thanks, Gerda. I have reworked and referenced Riccardo Brengola (which was a splurge) as a backup. Ciao, Eebahgum (talk) 10:52, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
thank you, and a concerto for two trumpets seems a good music to match --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Happy First Edit Day!
Happy First Edit Day! Hi Gerda Arendt! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:17, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Duino Elegies: Weighing Beauty and Existential Suffering
Hi Gerda, there is a fascinating problem I found with the "quote" in the Duino Elegies lead: "Weighing Beauty and Existential Suffering". It doesn't exist anywhere in Gass, which is fully available on archive.org. Yet, I would argue that Gass's throughout the book does point toward that interpretation. Interestingly, Colonel Henry did not initially have quotes (for example, see this See this 21 March version. They were added later.
More interesting, when I did my search, I found- like you did, I think- that the line is now being quoted in other people's books without attribution! (e.g., Susan Slavik (2015), in the Google Book link you had for the edited volume from Cambridge Press Formations of Identity; Peter Cox (2015) in "Don't be a Waster of Sorrows", Lafleur Cockburn (2020) in African Women and their Networks of Support) It's also a minor meme on Rilke websites. But I could not find a pre-2013 quote. (Not to say it doesn't exist, but is misattributed.)
The basic solution seems simple, delete. I'm not so sure. Because it has taken off in the Rilke literature, I'd like to keep it as it documents a Wikipedia artifact. (ColonelHenry, didn't check) The line could be seen as summarizing the criticism in the text of the article, so for now, I kept it, but removed the quotes and citation. That works for me, as I like to avoid citations in the lead, except in the case of literal quotes.
But, Given your long experience here and the kindness of your perspective. I've seen this before in other articles I edited, where creative editing becomes taken as "common knowledge" I'd like to hear your thoughts on this issue in particular. I'll gladly go along with what you decide. If you feel comfortable and have the time, I'd like to know your thoughts on addressing this in general, too. Wtfiv (talk) 20:20, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This is interesting! - I saw the many occurrences of the line, but didn't realise that Wikipedia was the origin. - I deal with Recent death articles, and often face a similar situation: when obituaries took their information obviously and sometimes less obviously from Wikipedia. (Therefore I often prefer to cite what the same authors wrote for a subject's last round birthday.) - I think your solution is fine, - a little monument to creative editing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know you edited the recent deaths articles! It makes sense given the sensitivity and caring of your posts and presence! You are aware of the moment, and it aligns nicely with article discussing Gadamer's influence by Rilke: a recognition of our state of presence. Thank you for in input! (And, I'm glad you are okay with the solution!) Wtfiv (talk) 02:31, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I/we edit selected selected recent death articles, those with mostly German souces, and those related to music. The full list is here, this year's above, an example is right below. - Thank you for your wonderful summary in the FAR! You seem not to know that corrected pings need a new signature to make them work, but I trust that SandyGeorgia will watch the place. I admire your skills in finding and formatting sources, and wording to match them! What do you think of rescuing the other article (that didn't survive FAR) together, A Song for Simeon? My topic, see BWV 125. Take your time, - I have a FAC open, and could not nominate another one right now anyway? I'd appreciate if you could look at the cantata article for FAC (but am still working on the new recordings section), again rescuing the work of a banned user ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, I would've enjoyed saving "Song for Simeon" as part of a FAR. I think it may have been salvagable but its been closed already, and I don't want to do a FAN. (Though I can successfully navigate them, I have found the experience extremely unpleasant.) Now that it is closed, it can't be reversed, I think.
That said, I'll review BWV 56. It may take me a week or so to focus on it, as I want to work on my current project a bit, but I'll get to it. (Ping me if I forget.) At a casual glance it looks great, and reviewing it would be a great education for me! Wtfiv (talk) 18:18, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping; Wtfiv, Hog Farm will be interested to hear that ColonelHenry's damage extended beyond Wikipedia. I'd opt towards deleting it, so as not to honor an editor who created multiple hoaxes. It's disturbing to hear that high quality sources replicated a Wikipedia error (and what amazing sleuthing work on your part !!). I've not looked at the FAR yet ... still fretting about Darjeeling, which does not look like it will make its TFA date, at the rate it's moving... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:19, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that it's damage if - as Wtfiv pointed out - the sentence presents the essence of the source's thought, and others felt the same, and quoted it. It will remain even if we delete. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Sandy Georgia. I'm with Gerda. I think the phrasing is so good that others have taken it on, and they never cite a source. I think Wikipedia deserves to keep the visible credit for a work others, including academics in "peer-reviewed" edited volumes have plagiarized. The only people who would know it is ColonelHenry's phrase is people who look at the article history (and who does that?) and people ColonelHenry tells. Wikipedia gets the credit, which I think it deserves as the beacon of successful collaboration. As long as the phrase is accurate and not falsely attributed, that is. Wtfiv (talk) 20:12, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Gerda, I saw you had written on my page about the Elegies and then deleted. I hope you don't mind, I'm responding anyway. I'm glad the concert was full of music that was new for you. I think the team left the page as it is. I think they saw that we both worked on it, and much of it is not pure "Colonel Henry". I know that I corrected the biographical information, and they left it as is. For myself, I think I will outside of the Elegies for now. But the good news is they sit there ready for a fresh draft, and maybe sometime a new Featured Article designation that is truly deserved! Wtfiv (talk) 00:58, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Wtfiv, I had written that I was afraid and I didn't want that to leave that in public when not needed. For me, a GA review by Khazar, a FA review by Brian and your thorough view at the sources were like a seal of quality. - Sometime: if you loook at my user page: there are five GA projects planned I don't get to. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
sung (each year for decades, but not for the last two, of course) at the processions - Come, all ye creatures of the Lord, - no idea why DYK dropped that hint --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Duino Elegies has gone FAR away
Hi Gerda,
I too feel badly about how the Duino Elegy FAR went. I think we both misunderstood what was initially asked. We assumed that the article was in decent shape and just needed a bit of pruning and care in the citations to bring back to health. We both spent a great deal of time finding sources, formatting, and working on aligning the texts. But its clear that a bigger issue was brewing in the FARC that we were unaware of, which was addressing a pattern of Wikipedia abuse that was much bigger than just the article we thought we had to tidy.
That's not to say we didn't have a point. WP:DENY states: "Some material is still going to be valuable in dealing with vandalism, so this is not about pretending vandalism does not exist. Instead, information on vandalism should be critically appraised: first, whether it has genuine value; then, whether that value outweighs any detriment from the publicity of that vandal or their vandalism." That was our argument. Ultimately, the provenance and origin of the quote remains unclear, as the citation apparatus was added post-hoc. It's a good phrase, and in my opinion, well-crafted regardless of where it came from. I had to laugh when I found that the Duino Castle Website(!) uses the quote "intensely religious, mystical poems that weigh beauty and existential suffering." (scroll down to "Find Out More About" and click the "Rilke tab).
But I think that the magnitude of what the FARC saw elsewhere played a determining role here. Given their larger context and the work they've been doing, I'll respect their decision, though we both put in far more time than we would of had we known that the article was already on the side of delisting.
And there is one point, where I do agree the article needs significant work: the majority of the middle was really just a summary of one set of commentaries. This issue was brought out by Victoria's comment- which also made me laugh and which I agree- that it was a quote farm. A good article would probably use many other sources as well to discuss the themes and symbolism. I reserved judgement, as I thought our role was just to clean up the aritcle. Again, we both misunderstood the state of this article.
Because we assumed FARC were okay with the content, just concerned about the citations, we both spent innumerable hours on the project. But please don't feel it was a waste or that you were not valued. Also, just think of all that you may have learned about the Elegies that you didn't know before.
I'll share how it wasn't a waste for me. I certainly learned a lot about a topic that I didn't know before, and in working through the incorrect information in the article came to a deeper understanding of who Rilke is as a person. I was delighted to see that the Gadamer and Rilke connection was real, even if the original citations misrepresented that relationship before I updated them. And, for me, the list of translations that Grimes2 and I found tells me just how influential the poems are, and the list simultaneously makes me laugh- there's so many!- and gives me a deeper respect for Rilke's influence.
I, for one, was delighted to get to know your presence in Wikipedia in more depth. You always thoughtfully support and value others, but I didn't have a sense of who you were and your own editing style and interests until we worked together. What I very much appreciate about you is how your warmth, caring, and positivity come through just in terms of your posts and in terms of the articles you are committed to improving. Just knowing you a bit more made the project worthwhile, and gave me a deeper sense of how I should value your work. Wtfiv (talk) 20:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
blushing: thank you, good to know you better now. - Victoria said she knew why I did what I did, and I am not sure. I wanted to see the article improved, and to learn more about the Elegies, - achieved. I don't think I put in "hours and hours", just enough time to check and transform a few references a day. I had many projects that took more time, such as converting the old-fashioned referencing in the (many and long) articles written by Jerome Kohl who died just when the style became deprecated. (Look for his name further up, - he wrote In Freundschaft.) I don't regret any of them. DYK that the influence section of the elegies also appears in Rilke's bio? It could be "snipped" in the elegies completely. (I learned a new word, - I knew only "snippy", and smiled.) Would you do that? On top of the Precious list, I quote a prize that means much to me right now: "grant each other the presumption that we are acting in good faith" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the main article a bit. Got rid of references to the Elegies and mention of Wittgenstein, who supported Rilke but didn't care much for his poetry according to the sources. The rest can stay, as we saw that they were influenced by Rilke, but not the Elegies in particular. Wtfiv (talk) 21:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 10 August 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Zofia Posmysz, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 17:52, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, you do such good work. And you have been so helpful and kind in your thank yous. I noticed today that in July 2022 you were helping an editor who is trying to get unblocked. And then I saw you had a loss in your family. I just think very kindly of you. THANK YOU! I have never done one of these Wikipedia thank-you's before so I hope I didn't mess this up.
Thank you, and you made me happy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Salmo 150
On 15 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Salmo 150, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in a choral tour program titled Salmo!, Bach's 18th successor first conducted Salmo 150, an a cappella setting of Psalm 150 by the Brazilian composer Ernani Aguiar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Salmo 150. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Salmo 150), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 15 August 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jean-Jacques Sempé, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. El_C 20:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On 19 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Victória Pitts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Victória Pitts from Brazil portrayed characters in all three parts of Puccini's Il trittico at the Oper Frankfurt in 2022, including Zita in Gianni Schicchi? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Victória Pitts. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Victória Pitts), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
seen, and it was the first time I saw Il trittico on stage, although Gianni Schicchi had been the second Opera I saw ever, - thanks to Brian for that article --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Gerda
I login in once every blue moon, and was surprised to see notification from you. Your efforts on keeping memories of disillusioned editors alive is truly heartwarming. Thanks again. Alex Shih (talk) 17:01, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I like blue moon appearances ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Claudia Winterstein
On 20 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Claudia Winterstein, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Claudia Winterstein dropped plans to become an architect because of the Berlin Wall, she led her party as a member of the Bundestag? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claudia Winterstein. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Claudia Winterstein), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 20 August 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Matti Lehtinen, which you created and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 19:07, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DYK for Iain MacNeal
On 21 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Iain MacNeal, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the Canadian baritoneIain MacNeal appeared as Odysseus in Dallapiccola's Ulisse at the Oper Frankfurt, a reviewer noted that he portrayed the "character's self-exegeses"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iain MacNeal. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Iain MacNeal), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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