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Today's FA

• apologies if this is not the correct place to post this, as it is not strictly an error, but i was concerned about the choice of image used for the blurb regarding lederer's escape, as i was not sure if it may be unintentionally misleading. i had previously raised the issue on the blurb's associated talk page, but received no response. dying (talk) 03:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• Dying has a good point. The issue is whether we are showing a picture of the right gate. The article states that the escape was through the "front gate" and we have multiple pictures of the main gate, (below). This was not the original Auschwitz but a separate camp, 3 km away, called Auschwitz II-Birkenau aka Theresienstadt family camp. As there were multiple camps with multiple sections there is much scope for confusion. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:30, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

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  Current image – "Gate to the section BIIb in the Birkenau camp"
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  The gatehouse of Auschwitz II, also known as Auschwitz II-Birkenau
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  Aerial view

• Do we have to show a picture of a gate there? I thought any pic of Auschwitz, even without a gate, would be fine for use on the TFA template. How about this? . --PFHLai (talk) 12:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• PFHLai, that is a good point. i was so focused on trying to figure out if this was the actual gate that lederer used that i did not think about the possibility of simply using a picture in which the main focus was not on a gate. however, i'm not sure if that specific photo would be much more appropriate, as it is of the fences at auschwitz i, whereas the theresienstadt family camp that lederer escaped from was located in the biib section of auschwitz ii-birkenau.

the aerial view of auschwitz ii-birkenau that Andrew Davidson selected looks pretty decent, though the presence of modern-day vehicles may be somewhat distracting, and i don't recall an image on the front page having an inset image before (though that may be simply because i don't recall ever having thought about the issue before). both issues can be largely resolved by cropping the image appropriately.

since lederer was assigned to the theresienstadt family camp, i tried looking for decent photos that focused on the camp but didn't focus on any gates, and the only one i could find was the first picture below. it technically shows the theresienstadt family camp, but doesn't provide much illustration, as it mostly just shows a bunch of chimneys.

i also found a commons category of views from the gatehouse, which has some decent pictures of large sections of the camp (as one would expect of views from a tower for camp guards). the second picture below shows some of the extant barracks in auschwitz ii-birkenau, which helps illustrate how the theresienstadt family camp may have looked back then. the picture also technically includes the theresienstadt family camp, although only in the background. note that there are people in this picture, but they do not appear easily identifiable, and they can probably be cropped out anyway. the picture also has a border which may be better left out as well if the picture ends up cropped. as of this writing, this picture is used on the auschwitz camp complex article to provide an exterior view of the barracks at auschwitz ii-birkenau, so apparently at least one person thought it had enough quality to use in an article.

i'm sure that there are other considerations i may be missing, since i've never tried to choose an image for the front page before and don't know what the relevant policies and guidelines are.

by the way, i found a schematic map of auschwitz ii-birkenau amongst the views from the gatehouse, which i've included as the third picture below. if the symbols that look like gates accurately depict the egresses present at the site at the time of lederer's escape, then there appears to be only one gate that can properly be described as a gate to the biib section. (the relevant symbol is located immediately to the right of the yellow "biib" label.) this would lead one to question, if this gate was the gate that lederer used to escape, why this was considered the "front gate" when it was the only gate to the biib section. (its relation to the rest of the camp also makes me hesitate to use "front gate" to describe it.)

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  remains of the theresienstadt family camp
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  barracks of auschwitz ii-​birkenau, with the theresienstadt family camp in the background
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  map of auschwitz ii-​birkenau

anyway, sorry for the wall of text. hope this makes sense. thanks for reading. dying (talk) 14:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestions and explanations, dying. A zoomed-in version of the second picture you suggested is now on MainPage. -- PFHLai (talk) 19:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Tomorrow's FA

• "world's leading ballet-masters" - ballet master and choreographer are different jobs. Choreographers create new steps, ballet masters stage and coach existing choreography. In this case, choreographer is the correct term. I already corrected that in the article. Corachow (talk) 08:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• I suggest that we wikilink East Timor. Per MOS:OVERLINK, only major countries that most readers will be familiar with are examples of overlinking. This is certainly true for Indonesia, which should not be linked, but it is certainly not true for tiny East Timor. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

   Not done. There's a long-standing convention that nation states are not wikilinked in ITN and other areas of the main page. You say that only "major" countries should be unlinked, but who defines what's major and what isn't? Far better, and far more neutral, to simply apply the same convention for all nations. It's the link to the cyclone that's the main target here, anyway.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:34, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

I'm not entirely sure whether this is the proper venue for this, but the image of MLK that's currently up is almost certainly copyrighted without any explicit release. The Commons description claims that it was published before 1926, which clearly can't be true of an image taken in 1967. 1967 is late enough that even non-renewal wouldn't put this image in the public domain. It might possibly have been published without a copyright notice somewhere, but definitely not at the given source (which marks it as copyrighted), and if "printed 1989" is interpreted as the publication date, then the image is definitely copyrighted, barring some explicit release.

This is unfortunate, since the image is good, but I think it's legally necessary. If this is taken off the main page, please ping me so I can nominate it for deletion over on Commons. Vahurzpu (talk) 18:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Vahurzpu, for pointing out this issue. File:Benedict J. Fernandez - Dr. Benjamin Spock, Dr. King, and Monsignor Rice of Pittsburgh march in the Solidarity Day Parade at... - Google Art Project.jpg is now off the DYK template, repleced with File:Martin Luther King, Jr.- M-cropped.jpg for now. --PFHLai (talk) 19:10, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Next DYK

• Q6 First hook - currently appears as a double hook, but logging camps should not actually be bolded? It appeared at DYK 1 March (though its talk page says 28 Feb). Or did it get pulled? JennyOz (talk) 15:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  I don't get it either, but the nominator Evrik and {{u|Philafrenzy}] bolded the article while Whispyhistory approved all of the alt hooks. SL93 (talk) 16:01, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  I messed up the pings so Evrik Philafrenzy Whispyhistory. SL93 (talk) 16:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  • ..this one has been somewhat confusing. Image is okay...Leave out the double hook and change hook to ..ALT1... that their cookhouse (example pictured) was as important to loggers as their bunkhouse or tool shed? Whispyhistory (talk) 16:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Agree. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. SL93 (talk) 19:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done  — Amakuru (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Amakuru Thank you. Would you be able to delete the credit for logging camp also? SL93 (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done oh yes, certainly. Thanks for pointing that out.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:43, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Next-but-one DYK

• Caption: we conventionally don't include the definite article at the beginning, in line with WP:THE. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 16:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  Which part of WP:THE do you think applies here? That seems to talk principally about article titles, but per MOS:CAPTION this should be treated as a sentence fragment rather than a title. Personally I think it reads better with "The" included, but I may be in the minority!  — Amakuru (talk) 19:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Ravenpuff, I agree with Amakuru on this. I removed "the" just now, and it looked really odd "Söderala vane" It just looked off that way, so I added "the" back. Any other admin can still remove it if they want. — Maile (talk) 19:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

• 1936 Tupelo–Gainesville tornado outbreak - This is kind of a nitpicky edit, but normally I think that WikiLinking the phrase "one of the deadliest tornadoes" would lead to a list of tornadoes by number of fatalities. Maybe you should try making the word "tornado" in the beginning the main link instead. Kokopelli7309 (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

   Done OK, I've made the first bit of the hook be the link as you suggested. That does mean we've lost the F5 link, but probably OK.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Tomorrow's OTD

• Battle of Greece and Invasion of Yugoslavia – "The Axis powers began both Operation Marita and Operation 25, invading Greece and Yugoslavia, respectively." The article for Battle of Greece says the German invasion began on this date, but the Italian invasion began on 28 October 1940, meaning the Axis invasion had already began. Invasion of Yugoslavia also has two unreferenced sections, "Royal Yugoslav armed forces" and "Aftermath". AllegedlyHuman (talk) 08:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  Well, "Operation Marita" refers only to the German invasion which did begin on the 6th. So I've reworked the hook to be solely about that, since the Yugoslavia one isn't up to par anyway.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• René Lalique – Short and first few paragraphs are largely unreferenced. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  It doesn't seem that bad to me... at 2894 bytes it's almost twice what we'd considered a stub. And the first two sections are both referenced by one source, which isn't ideal, but I think they are covered in their entirety. Happy to remove it others think it's bad, but I've seen worse than this.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Day-after-tomorrow's OTD

• St_John_Passion#Scoring unreferenced section - tag was removed, and quite a bit of other unreferenced material Bumbubookworm (talk) 07:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• American pioneers to the Northwest Territory peculair listy article with vast tracts of poetry and glowing quotes dedicated towards the settlers. Not much actual content Bumbubookworm (talk) 07:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• 2001 Mars Odyssey substantial % of uncited material Bumbubookworm (talk) 07:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• George the Standard-Bearer – Stub length. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

  400+ words of prose? That's not too stubby. Start class, I'd say. -- PFHLai (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

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