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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page.

Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

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How to list a new nomination

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}

   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

   To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)

   To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)

   To add a comment: |comment=

   To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Don't forget to fill out the rollover text, so people know what the image is of! Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}:

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article       = Example
 | status        = new<!--(or) expanded-->
 | hook          = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author        = User
 | nominator     =
 | image         = Example.png
 | rollover      = An example image
 | comment       =
}}

• Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
• When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
• Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
• If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name}} Thanks, ~~~~
• If a reviewer finds problem(s) that require that an issue be addressed, notify the nominator with {{DYKproblem}}.

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, or may suggest new hooks.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
	{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on November 11

Orang National Park

• ... that the Orang National Park is the only park on the north bank of the Brahmaputra river to contain rhinoceros?

5x expanded by Himalayan Explorer (talk). Nominated by Himalayan Explorer (talk) at 20:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Mikoyan-Gurevich I-250

File:I-250 back.jpg

• ... that the Soviet Minister for the Aviation Industry set up a commission in 1946 to investigate the delays in the I-250 program, but refused to accept its findings and had the factory director arrested for industrial sabotage?

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 19:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 10

P.J. Mills

• ... that P.J. Mills, a former member of the Louisiana House of Representatives, is a descendant of Robert Mills, the architect who designed the Washington Monument?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

St. Thomas Church (Palyar)

• ... St Thomas Church, (pictured) located at Palayoor, in Kerala on the west coast of India, was established by St. Thomas, one of the twelve close disciples of Jesus Christ, in 52 AD?

Created/expanded by User:Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Alt hook)... that Palayoor, India where St Thomas Church (pictured) exists, once a strong hold of the Nambdudris, is where St. Thomas started Proselytism and Brahmins fled to escape conversion?

Both hooks piped for easier reading. Mjroots (talk) 08:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Pierre de Molins

• ... that the trouvère Pierre de Molins composed music with a melodic tritone interval, a dissonance generally avoided in the thirteenth century?

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by Srnec (talk) at 03:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Yakovlev Yak-1000

• ... that the entire rear fuselage and tail of the Soviet Yakovlev Yak-1000 aircraft was removable to allow access to the engine?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 19:04, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Transporte Aéreo Rioplatense

• ... that a Transporte Aéreo Rioplatense Canadair CL-44 (pictured) crashed in the Soviet Union in 1981, after smuggling arms from Israel to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair?

Created by Russavia (talk). Nominated by Ezhiki (talk) at 16:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Clay Island Light

• ... that the Clay Island Light at the mouth of the Nanticoke River on the Chesapeake Bay collapsed only two years after being decommissioned?

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Nominated by Geraldk (talk) at 15:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the Clay Island Light on the Chesapeake Bay shared its location with a setting in Daniel Defoe's novel Moll Flanders?

Stenkjær og Namsos Automobilselskap

• ... that Stenkjær og Namsos Automobilselskap started Norway's first post-carrying bus route in 1908?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• The hook and the article's title uses the archaic spelling "Stenkjær", while the lede uses "Steinkjær", not to mention that the municipality's name is Steinkjer :) So which is it? decltype (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hm, sorry about that. The article title is correct in relation to the name of the company. The city has since changed the spelling (which is very common in Norway), and has become Steinkjer. Arsenikk ^(talk) 09:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• Sounds good. Length and date verified. I added an inline cite to the hook fact. decltype (talk) 12:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Richard Rogler

• ... that Richard Rogler became the only German professor for political cabaret in 1999?

• Comment: Creating user was me as well (legitimate sock for WP:NEWT) ;-)

5x expanded by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• The German reference says "Gastprofessur für Kaberett", but where does it say he was a professor for political caberet? I've never heard of a political cabaret anyway, and Googling shows the phrase is almost always used to describe Germany. Americans would call his act "political comedy at a night club". Art LaPella (talk) 01:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• That's a problem I wanted to approach next by creating Kabarett. Unfortunately, unlike the German word, the English word cabaret does only address a part of it's original meaning, i.e. that there are two different kinds of cabaret, the song-and-show kind and the satirical, political kind (see also de:Kabarett). In that sense, Kabarett in German usually refers to the latter kind (since in German you use "Cabaret" for the former kind most of the time) and I thought translating it as "political cabaret" would be the most correct way (German speakers can also read these discussions on the topic [1] [2] (where "political cabaret" was suggested)). "Political comedy" is a bad translation I think since German Kabarett artists usually are very careful not to be labeled as comedians (like Mr Rogler does), who are usually less focused on serious topics and less cynical and sarcastic. This source also describes the difference. I could offer to write the Kabarett article to highlight those differences and use the word instead for this hook and the article. Regards SoWhy 07:26, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Leonidas Vargas

• ... that before a hitman shot Colombian drug lord Leonidas Vargas to death in his hospital bed, the shooter asked a neighboring patient whether he was Vargas?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 07:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion and hook citation verified. decltype (talk) 07:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 9

James R. Fannin

• ... that State Rep. Jim Fannin wrote the Louisiana "career diploma" law, designed to reduce the dropout rate by allowing high schoolers to pursue less rigorous studies?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Louis-Nicolas Robert

• ... that in 1799 Louis-Nicolas Robert patented the first machine to produce paper in continuous sheets?

Created by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Skijoring at the 1928 Winter Olympics

• ... that athletes in the 1928 Winter Olympics competed in skijoring, a demonstration sport in which the competitors wore skis while being pulled behind horses?

Created by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ludwig Knorr

• ... that in 1883, Ludwig Knorr discovered the first commercially successful synthetic painkiller Phenazone (pictured)?

5x expanded by Stone (talk). Self nom at 10:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Date, expansion, refs Ok. Moved "in 1883" to the beginning of the hook. Probably a non-lead hook. Materialscientist (talk) 12:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Edinburgh town walls

• ... that the medieval town walls of Edinburgh served better throughout their history as a trade barrier than as a defensive one?

Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Self nom at 09:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article creation, length and refs check out. The offline hook ref is accepted in good faith, though the additional sentence mirroring the hook in the article stands out somewhat. You might want to consider re-wording the hook along the lines of:
• ALT1: ...that throughout their history, the medieval walls of Edinburgh were a better barrier to trade than they were to armies? Nick Ottery (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Liliana Lozano

• ... that the Colombian actress and beauty queen Liliana Lozano was shot to death two days after the murder of her boyfriend, the drug lord Leonidas Vargas?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 05:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Joe Magidsohn

Joe Magidsohn

• ... that Russian-born Joe Magidsohn (pictured) was the first Jew to win a varsity "M" at the University of Michigan and the first athlete known to have refused to compete on the High Holy Days?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 05:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese dogfish

• ... that the Portuguese dogfish (pictured) is the deepest-living shark known, occurring to a depth of 3,675 m (12,057 ft)?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook ref all check out. Might I suggest changing the wording to found as far down as 3,675m? or even perhaps using km, as the present wording reads slightly awkwardly to me? Otherwise good to go. Nick Ottery (talk) 13:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• I've no objections. -- Yzx (talk) 14:15, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Portuguese dogfish (pictured) is the deepest-living shark known, found down to depths of 3,675 m (12,057 ft)? Nick Ottery (talk) 14:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

History of Galveston, Texas

• ... that during the 1800s Galveston, Texas was home to the first African American chairman of the Texas Republican Party?

Created by Postoak (talk). Nominated by Mcorazao (talk) at 04:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Title of the article is not bold and links to the wrong article. I'm a bit concerned about the grammar of this hook as well, could you provide an alternate to be considered please? [Belinrahs|^talktome⁄ _ididit] 18:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Is this better? Is it required that the actual article title be in the sentence? Actually both the Galveston, Texas and History of Galveston, Texas articles contain the specified facts. But the History article is obviously more informative. --Mcorazao (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this article is eligible for DYK; it's thorough and interesting and well-cited, but unfortunately it hasn't been created or expanded 5x in the last 5 days. --Arxiloxos (talk) 18:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Agree with Arxiloxos. It's not eligible. [Belinrahs|^talktome⁄ _ididit] 18:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I removed the "agree" tick by Belinrahs as it is confusingly identical with the DYK approval tick. Indeed, no expansion. Materialscientist (talk) 01:32, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Sosnowiec Ghetto

• ... that Sosnowiec Ghetto was the setting of the Maus comic book?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 01:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Badel

• ... that London-born actress Sarah Badel made her acting debut in India?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Nominated by Cryptic C62 (talk) at 23:31, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

John Messmer

• ... that John Messmer was captain of Wisconsin's football and swim teams, set a U.S. record in the discus throw and was the first Badger to win nine varsity letters in major sports?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 22:47, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Spantax

• ... that Spantax was the world's largest operator of the Convair 990 (pictured), of which one was involved in a mid-air collision?

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Klenät

• ... that the Swedish fried-dough pastry klenät is traditionally eaten around Christmas in southern Sweden?

Created by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Theleftorium (talk) at 17:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• History and length verified. Assume good faith on Swedish sources. Well done! Pyrrhus16 14:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Personal relationships of Michael Jackson

• ... that despite being romantically involved with women such as Tatum O'Neal, Brooke Shields and Lisa Marie Presley, Michael Jackson (pictured) was labelled asexual, homosexual and a pedophile?

Created by Pyrrhus16 (talk). Nominated by Pyrrhus16 (talk) at 16:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• womEn Victuallers (talk) 18:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Refs for O'Neal, Shields, Presley, asexual and homosexual all check out, along with length and date, however I can't find anything in the article about being labelled 'boylover' Harrias (talk) 17:15, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Changed to "pedophile". I believe "boylover" is just a synonym for a pedophile attracted to boys. Pyrrhus16 17:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Black-figure pottery

• ... that the style of Ancient Greek black-figure pottery had its origins in Corinth?

5x expanded by Remotelysensed (talk). Nominated by Twospoonfuls (talk) at 15:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• The hook isn't explicitly referenced in the text. In fact I note that on the article talk page, Remotelysensed says that people really need to find English-language references to replace the German ones (s)he carried over from the when translating the German. It's a good encyclopedic subject that would be good to have ont he front page but it needs someone with access to sources to have a proper go at this in the near future.--Peter cohen (talk) 16:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, I'll russell up a reference for the hook in the next day or two. As for the other refs, often the only secondary sources on Greek art are in German, insisting on English only is setting the bar a little too high. Twospoonfuls (ειπέ) 16:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• I helped: There are three specific citations to Corinth as the originator of black-figure pottery now in the article. (Currently, that is footnote number 2). The hook itself is mentioned explicitly in the section titled "Corinth". - Tim1965 (talk) 01:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I'm aware that there are some paragraphs in the article without references and I know that this is sometimes an issue, I'd like to say yes, but I'm new to WP:DYK and I'd really rather see how someone more experienced would handle this.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, more refs are needed, but there are plenty enough for dyk. Hook ref etc ok. At the same time it is pretty silly to claim "often the only secondary sources on Greek art are in German" when there shelves of English works on the subject, and a vast amount online via the Beazley Archive. Johnbod (talk) 13:16, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Hypomyces chrysospermus

• ... that the bolete eater which attacks boletes is actually another type of fungus?

Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Mostly good, but you need to cite one more paragraph (the second under "Taxonomy"). Ucucha 13:04, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
  • It's all set now. Ucucha 16:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Tungsten(VI) fluoride

• ... that tungsten hexafluoride is a colorless gas that is over ten times heavier than air?

• Comment: the density of this gas changes with temperature, and thus its ratio to air may vary up to between 11 and 13 in the literature. As usual, DYKcheck fails to auto-confirm this 5x expansion.

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 09:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• 5x content expansion, date of expansion, and sources for hook verified. Great work, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 15:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Note: I changed "which is more than 10" to "that is over ten" - seems to read a bit easier. Your thoughts on this? Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 15:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I like "that is over ten". « D. Trebbien (talk) 22:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Fine with me too. Materialscientist (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid DYKcheck is right there--it was 1452 b before and is 6987 b now according to prosesize.js, which just misses the mark at 4.8x content expansion. You'll need a few more sentences (273 b, to be precise). Also, there are some uncited paragraphs. Ucucha 03:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

This is not about DYK check, but about a friendly chemist who re-phrased my expansion :-). I added some material. Materialscientist (talk) 04:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Now 5x expanded. decltype (talk) 07:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Philip the Arab and Christianity

• ... that early Christian writers Jerome and Orosius believed that Philip the Arab, not Constantine the Great, was the first Christian Roman emperor?

Created by Geuiwogbil (talk). Self nom at 09:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length (somewhat!!) and date check out, offline refs AGF. Harrias (talk) 17:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Manila local elections, 2010

• ... that opponents in Manila's mayoral elections Alfredo Lim and Lito Atienza were previously running mates in the 1990s?

• ALT1: ... that despite being running mates in Manila's local elections, Alfredo Lim and Isko Moreno support different presidential candidates in the presidential election?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 08:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Michael Slater

• ... that Michael Slater was told his dream of playing cricket for Australia was over after he damaged his Achilles tendon when 17 years old?

5x expanded by Aaroncrick (talk). Nominated by Aaroncrick (talk) at 07:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• . Nowhere near 5x expansion. If you're looking for approval of your work, why not look at WP:WIAGA and look at how to progress up the quality criteria. When you get it to featured article, it cna then be on front page.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Agreed. current prose expansion from 11/6 4850/7626 1.57x would need 24000+ Calmer Waters 09:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Turner Catledge

• ... that American journalist Turner Catledge, while working at the Tupelo Journal wrote articles against the Ku Klux Klan, who in response burned down their newspaper plant?

5x expanded by Belinrahs (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Prose expansion 2113/1026=2 whereas 5x is required. Materialscientist (talk) 01:41, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Siege of Hlukhiv

• ... that the unlucky Siege of Hlukhiv one more time turned the tide of the Russo-Polish War of 1654-1667 and ended the Polish hopes to regain control of Kiev and Left-bank Ukraine?

Created by Voyevoda (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that the unsuccessful siege of Hlukhiv turned the tide of the Russo-Polish War of 1654–1667 again, and ended Polish hopes of regaining control of Kiev and Left-bank Ukraine? Art LaPella (talk) 01:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Eddie Freeman (musician)

• ... that English jazz musician Eddie Freeman's design for a 4-string guitar was an original Selmer guitar design?

Created by Tacotton (talk). Nominated by Dtrebbien (talk) at 22:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 8

Mount Whitney Fish Hatchery

• Did you know that the historic Mount Whitney Fish Hatchery (pictured), which played a critical role in the preservation of the Golden trout, California's state fish, was badly damaged by a mudslide on July 12, 2008?

Created/expanded by Cullen328 (talk). Self nom at 06:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Cliff Sparks

Cliff Sparks

• ... that Cliff Sparks (pictured), hailed in 1916 as "eel-like," a "whirlwind" and "the greatest quarterback Michigan ever has had," punted by throwing the ball with force at his uprising foot?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 22:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Iolas Huffman

• ... that Iolas Melitus Huffman reportedly played in every quarter of every Ohio State football game except one from 1918 to 1921 and later played for the Cleveland Indians of the NFL?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 22:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• There are a number of issues here. First, the quote from the source says he played every down 'but one', so he didn't play every down as the hook states. Second, it's incredibly confusing that he was both given a try-out for the Cleveland Indians baseball team and played for the Cleveland Indians football team, and the hook doesn't make clear which it is referring to except in the piping. Geraldk (talk) 02:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• Good catch on the citation from the newspaper article. I mis-read it and have now fixed it both in the article and the hook. On the NFL v. AL issue, I think the piping is sufficient and avoids excess characters in the hook, but in response to your concern I added "of the NFL" to the hook. Cbl62 (talk) 03:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Romidepsin

• ... that romidepsin, a new treatment for T-cell lymphomas, was discovered in a culture of bacteria obtained from a soil sample collected in Yamagata Prefecture?

5x expanded by Fvasconcellos (talk). Nominated by Fvasconcellos (talk) at 22:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that romidepsin, a new treatment for T-cell lymphomas, was discovered in a culture of bacteria obtained from soil collected in Yamagata Prefecture, Japan? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:10, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that romidepsin, a new treatment for T-cell lymphomas, was approved as a drug last week, 15 years after its discovery? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Kristijonas Donelaitis

• ... that although Kristijonas Donelaitis wrote the poem The Seasons (pictured) in Lithuanian, it was first published in its German translation in 1818?

• Comment: completed rewritten from copy right version

Created/expanded by Renata3 (talk). Nominated by M.K (talk) at 14:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center

• ... that figure skater Tonya Harding was once treated at Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center (pictured) in Oregon for injuries from an assault?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 08:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Władysław Oporowski

• ... that Władysław Oporowski, archbishop and primate of Poland, was a chief political rival of cardinal Zbigniew Oleśnicki?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 04:37, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Roger F. Villere, Jr.

• ... that Roger Villere, chairman of the Louisiana Republican Party since 2004, was among the candidates who lost a state House race in 1989 to David Duke?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:25, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Bidar Fort

• ... that Sherza Darwaza in Bidar Fort, India depicts two images of tigers carved on its fascia, which according to Shia belief, denotes assured protection by Ali to the fort from enemy attack?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that Sherza Darwaza in Bidar Fort, India, depicts two images of tigers carved on its fascia, which according to Shia belief, denotes Ali's assured protection of the fort from enemy attack? Art LaPella (talk) 04:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

11th Street Bridges

• ... that demolition (pictured) of a portion of the 11th Street Bridges in Washington, D.C., began in 2009, and construction of the replacement spans is expected to conclude in 2013?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 02:11, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Date and length of expansion verified. Hook verified and well sourced. Picture verified as being in the public domain Calmer Waters 09:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Léon Levavasseur

Demolition of a portion of the 11th Street Bridges in Washington, D.C., on October 10, 2009

• ... that Léon Levavasseur (pictured) invented the V8 engine?

Created by SamBlob (talk). Self nom at 23:43, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article contains about 1000bytes of prose whereas 1500 is a minimum for DYK. Materialscientist (talk) 01:45, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• I shall do my best to expand it, or to find editors who can. I have expanded it slightly since the last commnet, but I am sure it's not enough. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 02:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article has been expanded. Is it eligible now? Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 20:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

  Good work. Date, length, refs Ok. I added a picture, just in case, though I'm not sure this nom is good enough for a lead hook. Materialscientist (talk) 23:26, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Beverley O'Sullivan

• ... that bandmates of Beverley O'Sullivan, recently killed in India, found out the true extent of her hearing difficulties when she developed a sore ear during a Westlife performance?

Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 21:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Looks fine to me. --Peter cohen (talk) 00:54, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Enlightened People's Communist Party

• ... that in late 1921 a series of arrests of its activists led to the break-up of the Japanese Enlightened People's Communist Party?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• I removed "of the", which was after "activists". Art LaPella (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Tales from the Grave in Space

• ... that Earache Records released Gama Bomb's third studio album Tales from the Grave in Space via free RapidShare downloads?

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 19:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Maesyronnen Chapel

• ... that Maesyronnen Chapel in Powys, Wales (pictured}, was one of the earliest Nonconformist chapels to be built in the country, and that it is still in use as a chapel?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Pat Brister

• ... that Pat Brister, first woman state chairman of the Louisiana GOP, was ambassador to the UN Commission on the Status of Women in the second Bush administration?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Besa (Albanian culture)

• ... that because of the Albanian Muslim concept of Besa, Albanians saved about 2000 Jews from the Holocaust during World War II?

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for an interesting article! Article date and sourcing and the source for the hook check out, but unfortunately, it is still slightly too short for DYK, at 1341 b (we need 1500). I read in one of the references that besa is not specifically Muslim, being older than the Muslim faith in Albania, so it would perhaps be interesting to add something about besa in the Christian minority in Albania. Ucucha 16:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

And a note that I slightly rephrased the hook. Ucucha 16:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Huh? Page size is: * File size: 28 kB

   * Prose size (including all HTML code): 2794 B
   * References (including all HTML code): 6171 B
   * Wiki text: 3451 B
   * Prose size (text only): 1580 B (267 words) "readable prose size"
   * References (text only): 892 B, 2794 is well past 1500, raw size 3451.  — Rlevse • Talk •  16:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I apparently checked an old version (it was 1341 in the second revision). Thanks for responding and it is now. Ucucha 16:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I added a bit about the Christian involvement anyway, it's a good point to make. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sverre Krogh (politician), Jakob Eng

• ... that Sverre Krogh was replaced as chair of the Norwegian Association of Local and Regional Authorities, after his political party's coalition partners supported another candidate, Jakob Eng?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 13:59, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article length, date and sourcing, as well as the reference for the hook check out in both articles, with offline sources accepted in good faith. Ucucha 16:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Audrey Jackson

• ... that Audrey Jackson was only able to play in the fourth women's Test for South Africa after securing travel to the game with the opposition England side?

Created by Harrias (talk). Nominated by Harrias (talk) at 13:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article length, sourcing, date, and hook referencing all check out. Ucucha 15:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

1911 United Kingdom heat wave

• ... that the 1911 United Kingdom heat wave set a July temperature record of 36 °C (97 °F) that was not broken until 79 years later?

Created by AtheWeatherman (talk). Nominated by AtheWeatherman (talk) at 13:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be 79 years? 1990-1911=79 TheWeakWilled (T * G) 01:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Mental block there :) corrected now. AtheWeatherman 18:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, creation date, and hook verified. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 17:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Jerry Toppazzini

• ... that Jerry Toppazzini is the final position player in National Hockey League history to substitute as a goaltender during a game?

5x expanded by RGTraynor (talk). Self nom at 12:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Interesting hook (certainly for an NHL fan), offline hook accepted in good faith, expansion checks out. Hook is worded oddly though, and possibly look at making it slightly clearer what a position player is. Unfortunately I can't think of anything myself at the moment. Harrias (talk) 13:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thing is that's as close to an official term as exists in ice hockey for "not a goaltender;" there are forwards and defensemen.  RGTraynor  20:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Heinz-Josef Große

• ... that Heinz-Josef Große was an East German construction worker shot and killed on the inner German border in 1982 while trying to escape across it?

Created by ChrisO (talk). Nominated by ChrisO (talk) 10:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Reviewed, verified, well done. Skäpperöd (talk) 10:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Colin Ferguson (convict)

• ... that Colin Ferguson, the man convicted of killing six people during a Long Island Rail Road shooting in 1993, argued in prison with serial killer Joel Rifkin about whose murders were better?

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Two issues: 1) Hook is too long at 204 characters, and 2) Not quite 5x expansion; [3] has 7K of readable prose, while [4] is about 33K – about 2K short. MuZemike 02:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I shortened the hook and added a bit more prose. I have plenty more I can add, but I'm out of time tonight and will have to do it tomorrow, so if we can wait a little bit I'd appreciate it. I've come a long way with this one and would like to see it make DYK. Incidentially, how can you tell how much K of readable prose there is? Is there an easy way to do that? — Hunter Kahn _(c) 05:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
• Articles and hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided. This is not a censorship issue, rather a BLP issue Calmer Waters 08:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

When you have 2 people only notable as convicted murderers, anything to do with these crimes is not a "negative aspect" imo. Johnbod (talk) 13:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• It not an issue with the article. Its that the hook focuses on the negative issue of a living person. This would bring added attraction to his status as a convict. Living people are more than the sums of a negative event. BLPs are treated differently. Main page display of this would be inapproprate. Is there any hook you can use that would not present him as a convict? Calmer Waters 13:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, this is nonsense! But I agree with cirt that the alt is more interesting. Johnbod (talk) 15:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

What about this (ALT1):

• ... that during his trial, Colin Ferguson insisted on examining himself as a witness?

This is in the lead, but I couldn't find it in the article, so more detailed sourcing is needed before we can put it on the Main Page. Or is this still too negative for the Main Page?

Also, this article didn't quite get 5x expansion (7088 before, 34k now), but we might want to ignore that in this case, as it is close and it's an impressive 27k b expansion. Ucucha 13:50, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length looks fine as a well expanded exception. Article looks good. ALT1 looks to remedy potiental BLP issues in the orginal hook. Would like other editors opinions before ruling out original, since my objection was just my constructive take on it, and I may be incorrect in this case. Kindly Calmer Waters 13:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I find it strange that we're put into a position where we're forced to find a "non-negative" hook about a convicted mass murderer. But if that's the way it has to be, could the hook be something like "that during his trial, Colin Ferguson defended himself and questioned his alleged victims directly?" or something like that? (I can add more soured info for that bit of information too...) I thought the use of alleged would cover us, but if that's still too negative, I guess I'll go with ALT1... — Hunter Kahn _(c) 14:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

If true, I think ALT1 would be our best shot, as examining yourself as a witness is kind of... crazy, but as I (more or less) said, this fact is currently only in the lead, not in the body of the article. Could you add it (with a source, of course) to the body, or is its inclusion in the lead a mistake?

The actual text (WP:DYK#Selection_criteria) of the rule is "Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided." Note the "unduly"; we do not automatically have to exclude hooks focusing on negative aspects of an individual. Still, ALT1 may actually be better as a hook (if it can be sourced correctly, that is). Ucucha 15:53, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, ALT1 is more interesting. :P Cirt (talk) 15:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway

• ... that the London Underground's Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was built so Londoners could get to the cricket?

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hook length, article length and age fine. Checked it wasn't cut and paste from Bakerloo line. Don't have access to the source. Thanks for this interesting article about what was local history for me until I was 6 and we moved nearer the Northern line.--Peter cohen (talk) 13:14, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• I suggest "grounds" after "cricket". Both "get to the cricket" or "get to the cricket grounds" are common in a Google search, but presumably not in the U.S. The elliptical "get to the cricket" (what cricket?) is likely to make Americans wonder if we're talking about a cricket (insect). Art LaPella (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I was deliberately trying to create a bit of a teaser, but, if it needs further clarification, "get to a cricket match" would probably be best. --DavidCane (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Or "cricket matches" given it was built to last. Another thing to consider is linking cricket.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:17, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the London Underground's Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was built so Londoners could get to cricket matches? --DavidCane (talk) 23:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 7

Maria Dunn (musician)

• ... that singer-songwriter Maria Dunn hosted a folk music radio show for twelve years before becoming a performer herself?

Created by Verne Equinox (talk). Nominated by Verne Equinox (talk) at 18:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Laguna de Términos

• ... that 1,468 fauna species are found within the protected area of Laguna de Términos (pictured), located in southeastern Mexico?

5x expanded by Mattisse (talk). Nominated by Mattisse (talk) at 22:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Meadow (calf)

• ... that Meadow is believed to be the first bovine calf fitted with double prosthetics?

Created by Calmer Waters (talk). Nominated by Calmer Waters (talk) at 14:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

History of Volkswagen in Ireland

• ... that the first Volkswagen ever built outside of Germany was assembled in Ireland?

Created by GainLine (talk). Self nom at 11:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• 'Outside of' is poor grammar. 'Outside' is fine on its own. 86.147.160.133 (talk) 18:38, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• A Google search shows that is a minority opinion. It's about ten times more common for grammar texts to actually use the phrase "outside of" than to condemn it. Wikipedia's own Manual of Style guideline WP:HONORIFIC is an example. Art LaPella (talk) 04:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Cassareep

• ... that cassareep, a flavoring and preservative made from cassava roots, has been rumored to keep a meat stew called Guyanese pepperpot edible for over a century?

5x expanded by Drmies (talk) and ChildofMidnight (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:14, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

61st Battalion (Australia)

• ... that the 61st Battalion was an Australian infantry battalion that adopted Scottish-style uniforms including kilts and the designation of Queensland Cameron Highlanders?

Created by AustralianRupert (talk). Self nom at 02:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date Ok, could AGF the refs, but. Could you explain the claimed adoption of kilts? Photos do not show that. I assume it was ceremonial outfit, but still this would look contradictory. A picture in the article could clarify that. Materialscientist (talk) 02:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I've searched the AWM for a photo of the battalion in kilts, but they don't seem to have one. The battalion official history has many such, but I don't have a scanner to upload them at the moment and I'm uncertain that they would be PD. The kilts were worn on ceremonial occasions, such as marching through Brisbane and church parades, however there do seem to be a couple of pictures from before the war where they are wearing them with webbing as part of their field gear (page 3 of the battalion history) and route marches (page 15). Of course, however, they did not wear them in battle during the fighting around Milne Bay or on Bougainville later in the war. — AustralianRupert (talk) 07:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Fine with me, but could you please briefly reflect this in the article, for the sake of the DYK readers. Materialscientist (talk) 07:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I've added a picture of Sir Donald Cameron in the battalion's cero uniform, but to be honest it is not really clear that he's actually wearing a kilt. That is the best that the AWM has to offer though, unfortunately. I've added a footnote next to the sentence about kilts in the article now, indicating that they were not worn in battle. — AustralianRupert (talk) 08:12, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Ok now. Materialscientist (talk) 08:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to review. Cheers. — AustralianRupert (talk) 08:39, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity

• ... that the video game AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for Gravity was inspired by BASE jumping in a wingsuit?

Created by MuZemike (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Note that the article was deleted via AFD and was userfied and moved back into the mainspace after notability was sufficiently established. MuZemike 00:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

John Baskeyfield

• ... that before he died in the action for which he was awarded the Victoria Cross,John Baskeyfield was a butcher?

5x expanded by Ranger Steve (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Emile St. Godard

• ... that Emile St. Godard won the demonstration sled dog race at the 1932 Winter Olympics and is the only dogsled racer in Canada's Sports Hall of Fame?

• ALT1:... that Emile St. Godard won the demonstration Sled dog race at the 1932 Winter Olympics, the only time the sport has been in the Olympics?

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 23:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The Air Mail

• ... that the 1925 silent film The Air Mail was filmed in the ghost town of Rhyolite, Nevada?

Created by Finetooth (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 23:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Gerry E. Hinton

• ... that before he was a Louisiana state senator from Slidell, Gerry E. Hinton worked to obtain licensing of chiropractors in his state, the last to recognize the profession?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 23:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Jack Donahue (Louisiana politician)

• ... that Louisiana State Senator Jack Donahue through his philanthropic Suited for Success helped Hurricane Katrina victims refurbish their business clothing?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

North Bridge, Halifax

• ... that twenty dragoons were needed to seal off North Bridge, Halifax (pictured) from exuberant crowds so that an opening ceremony could be held?

Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: I guess the article's name should be North Bridge (Halifax) --Matthiasb (talk) 13:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• I think you guess wrong. Johnbod (talk) 15:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Marcus Baebius Tamphilus

• ... that Marcus Baebius Tamphilus instituted the first Roman law against electoral bribery in 181 BC?

Created by Cynwolfe (talk). Self nom at 20:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• I nominated this DYK because corrupt elections have been much in the news lately, and I thought it was interesting to see an ancient society also addressing the problem. I'm hoping someone else can take a look. Cynwolfe (talk) 13:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Xeris spectrum

File:Wood Wasp female near exit hole.jpg

• ... that unlike other other Siricid Wood wasps, Xeris spectrum does not have symbiotic fungi to aid its larvae as they burrow in the wood of fir and other conifer trees?

Created by Dincher (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Ice Mountain

• ... that West Virginia's Ice Mountain exhibits talus ice vents that maintain a habitat for subarctic plant species?

5x expanded by Caponer (talk). Nominated by Caponer (talk) at 16:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article meets all the standards, but I was wondering if you could maybe simplify the wording of the hook. It is fine if you can't, but is there a simpler or more common word for "talus"? Regards, MacMed^talk_stalk 02:48, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• How about: ALT1... that West Virginia's Ice Mountain exhibits ice vents that maintain a habitat for subarctic plant species? --Caponer (talk) 03:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
• Or ALT2... that cool air expulsed by ice vents at West Virginia's Ice Mountain allows for a subarctic species habitat? --Caponer (talk) 03:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

  Second MacMed - the article is fine, but the language is too scientific for DYK. How about ALT3... that West Virginia's Ice Mountain contains ice vents that shelter subarctic plant species? (I think there is no need to add that Virginia is in US (?). "Shelter" is somewhat awkward - suggestions are welcome) Materialscientist (talk) 04:12, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT4 ... that West Virginia's Ice Mountain contains ice vents that allow subarctic plant species to survive?

  - Is that good with everyone? MacMed^talk_stalk 04:59, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

  - ALT4 is definitely good with me! --Caponer (talk) 08:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

  ALT3 or ALT4 are Ok with me. Materialscientist (talk) 08:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Could something be added to say how warm it is elsewhere while the plants survive? I can't see anything about this in the article and not being from Virginia I don't have much of an idea as to what the climate is normally like. Smartse (talk) 12:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't talus be disambiguated? —mattisse (Talk) 22:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

The talus in this context is scree so talus should link to scree. --Caponer (talk) 22:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Although, it looks as if the version omitting talus seemed to have the most support. --Caponer (talk) 22:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Fine with ALT3 or ALT4. Regards, MacMed^talk_stalk 20:26, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

5th Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party

• ... that the 5th Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party was held in a church in London in 1907?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 15:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Fucking, Austria

• ... that the road signs in Fucking, Austria (pictured) were frequently stolen by tourists until being replaced with theft-resistant signs in 2005?

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 13:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• It passes the minimum size for 5fold expansion, but the two sources do not say about until being replaced with theft-resistant signs in 2005 And the article only focuses on the obscene meaning in English. History should be added.--Caspian blue 14:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)--Caspian blue 14:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
  • We go with what information we have. History of the town is lacking, and its notability arises from the signs and its name. In regards to the hook, an alt hook is below --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 14:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
• ALT 1

• ... that because of the frequent theft of road signs in Fucking, Austria (pictured) by tourists, theft-resistant signs were installed in 2005? --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 14:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hilarious! Verified, image verified as PD. Gatoclass (talk) 14:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• This one should get some big numbers! Some hooks just speak for themselves. Nice job finding this one Russavia Calmer Waters 14:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I've looked at the stats, and it already receives around 2,000 hits a day, so it would surely be a largish DYK. --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 16:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• How is this a fivefold increase? I know thare is a tool to check this, but until the end of October the article was 10,500 bytes: now it's about 19,500? --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 15:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

A lot of the bytes are taken up with infobox coding and the like. Only characters in the article itself are included -- referencing, headings, infoboxes, etc, etc are excluded. --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 16:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed as >5x using the tool: 1,228 bytes → 6,535 bytes. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:06, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

O.K. - that's cool. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Anyone for saving this for April Fool's Day? Geraldk (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I personally don't find it appropriate to save articles for half a year for things like April Fool's Day and then place them under a heading that says "from Wikipedia's newest articles", so I'd prefer to just run this on the Main Page in a few days' time. Ucucha 23:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sunda megathrust, 1797 Sumatra earthquake, 1861 Sumatra earthquake

• ... that the Sunda megathrust has been responsible for two sequences of great or giant earthquakes in the last few centuries: 1797, 1833 & 1861 and 2004, 2005 & 2007?

• Comment: first article created on the 5th, the others on the 7th

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Scientology and abortion

• ... that L. Ron Hubbard's book Dianetics influenced how Scientologists relate to Scientology and abortion?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 12:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• It's not necessary to repeat 'scientology', ALT1; ... that L. Ron Hubbard's book Dianetics influenced how Scientologists relate to abortion?

--Soman (talk) 15:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Creation date, length, and facts verified. JamieS93 21:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Wouldn't the last part be better as "how Scientology relates with abortion" or even "how Scientologists treat/view abortion"? The wording that "Scientologists relate to abortion" doesn't sound exactly right. MuZemike 01:50, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• I'd prefer 'view' rather than 'relate'. --Soman (talk) 07:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Either is fine with me. I'll defer to the judgment of whoever moves this to prep. :) Cirt (talk) 11:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

How about ...influenced Scientology['s] views of abortion? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:16, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I like that one. MuZemike 22:35, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Me too. The alt would be, ALT2, ... that L. Ron Hubbard's book Dianetics influenced Scientology's views of abortion? Cirt (talk) 00:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Rembrandt (crater)

• ... that Rembrandt is the second largest impact crater on Mercury?

5x expanded by Ruslik0 (talk). Self nom at 12:47, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion, date, refs Ok. Materialscientist (talk) 00:15, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Butterflies of Sri Lanka

• ... that Ceylon Rose (pictured) is a critically endangered endemic butterfly of Sri Lanka?

Created by Chanakal (talk). Self nom at 11:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT... that there are 23 endemic butterflies in Sri Lanka, including Ceylon Rose (pictured)?

  Everything seems Ok, and I would welcome the main hook, but (thinking loud): Nice image, but it has the author name printed on it. Is this consistent with the main page? Maybe this should go as non-lead hook, but if not, comments are welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 01:37, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Ceylon Rose is a globally threatened endemic butterfly in Sri Lanka

Found out an alternate image in commons, less elegant though.--Chanaka L (talk) 03:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Kaiser Westside Medical Center

• ... that Kaiser Permanente sold some land it owned in Hillsboro, Oregon, after deciding not to build a hospital there only to later begin building their Westside Medical Center at that location (pictured)?

• Comment: This is a synthesis of info from the article from the 1st and last paragraphs of the history section. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 09:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Holyrood Church, Southampton

• ... that Holyrood Church, Southampton (pictured) was destroyed in the Blitz in November 1940, but is now dedicated as a memorial to the sailors of the Merchant Navy?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Josette Baujot

• ... that colorist Josette Baujot, recently deceased, created the distinct color schemes of works in Hergé's Adventures of Tintin series?

Created by I.M.S. (talk). Nominated by I.M.S. (talk) at 06:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Comment - cited source doesn't say the colour scheme is "unique". Would "distinct" (as used in the article) be a better and more accurate adjective? Nancy ^talk 16:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps so. I've changed it. - I.M.S. (talk) 17:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Argleton

• ... that Argleton appears on Google Maps as a settlement in West Lancashire, England, even though no such place exists? 5x expanded by Small-town hero (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• It was created 1 November but posted 7 November, past the 5-day window. MuZemike 01:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• This is a 5x expanded nom posted on the day of expansion. Small-town hero (talk) 13:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• You're right, my bad. Date, expansion, and hook verified. Sorry about that. MuZemike 17:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Dun Emer Press

• ... that the books produced by the Dun Emer Press (device illustrated) were written or selected by W. B. Yeats?

5x expanded by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 04:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion, date, refs Ok, but could you help locating the hook in the article and in the refs (ref. 11 doesn't seem to support the hook, is it in ref. 12?; the article says "At Dundrum" - why? were there other locations?). Materialscientist (talk) 12:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• No problem, I've rearranged the article a little to make it clearer. The hook is now cited in footnote 11 (ref. to Patrick Maume). Moonraker2 (talk) 12:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Jerk De Soleil

• ... that for the Phineas and Ferb episode "Jerk De Soleil", the character Candace had to be voiced by co-creator Dan Povenmire (pictured) because her voice actress could not consummate the deep voice required for that episode?

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 02:39, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• 210-character hook (should be <200). Materialscientist (talk) 11:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT1... that in the Phineas and Ferb episode "Jerk De Soleil", co-creator Dan Povenmire (pictured) voiced the part of Candace, whose usual voice actress could not produce the deep voice the plot required? Gonzonoir (talk) 12:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Gonzonoir. That one should fit the character count. The Flash ^{talk} 16:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

NP. Just gave it a copy edit pass too. Gonzonoir (talk) 17:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Jumbo Jet (Cedar Point)

• ... that the roller coaster Jumbo Jet (pictured) has operated in at least four different amusement parks, in at least three countries, and on two continents?

Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Date, length, refs Ok, but wouldn't it be better to add something clarifying that the hook means a single roller coaster rather than a series of copies? Materialscientist (talk) 00:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

ALT 1... that Cedar Point's former roller coaster, Jumbo Jet (pictured), has operated in at least four different amusement parks, in at least three countries, and on two continents?

ALT 2... that Cedar Point's former roller coaster, Jumbo Jet (pictured), averaged between 1.6 and 1.8 million riders per year between 1970 and 1978?

How about either of those hooks? IronGargoyle (talk) 01:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

with either, but prefer ALT1 (more international :). Materialscientist (talk) 01:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

"four different amusement parks, in at least three countries" .... at least? Does that mean that the last amusement park was possibly in one country but sometimes in 2 or 3? :) Victuallers (talk) 18:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Haha... Let me see if I can explain: There are reliable sources tracing the coaster from USA (Cedar Point), to USA (Palace Playland), to Sweden (Malmö Folkets Park), and then finally to Russia (Beoland). These are all sources from RCDB.com, which is definitely a reliable source for roller coaster information. I say "at least" because the son of the designer has speculated that the coaster may have subsequently been moved to another amusement park in Belarus. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I've checked this point before approving - to understand the language of the hook - and can second IronGargoyle. It should be relatively easy to confirm whether or not the coaster is in Minsk (for someone from there :) Materialscientist (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 6

Yakovlev Yak-200

• ... that the prototype Yak-210 bomber trainer carried a camera that could tilt 15° aft to photograph the bomb impacts?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 18:19, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Moscow International House of Music

• ... that the Moscow International Performance Arts Center, also known as the Moscow International House of Music, is topped by an enormous treble clef that rotates like a weathervane?

5x expanded by Fladrif (talk). Nominated by Fladrif (talk) at 15:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Expansion, date, fact verified. Materialscientist (talk) 11:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Ron and Tammy (Parks and Recreation)

• ... that "Ron and Tammy", an episode of NBC's Parks and Recreation, features comedienne Megan Mullally playing the ex-wife of a character played by her real-life husband, Nick Offerman?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 16:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Makerita Urale

• ... that Makerita Urale, a documentary director in New Zealand and leading figure in contemporary Polynesian theatre, directed the play Frangipani Perfume, the first Pacific play written by a woman for an all-female cast?

Created by Richardchandler (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 16:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Kainaliu, Hawaii

• ... that the Hawaiian settlement Kainaliu was named after an ancient canoe bailer who worked for King Keawenuiaʻumi in the 16th century?

Created by W Nowicki (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 15:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Eddie Fiola

• ... that professional freestyle BMX rider Eddie Fiola is credited as the first rider to perform a 540 in a pipe, and appeared as a stuntman in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

Created by EIL132 (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 15:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Most of the article is unreferenced. "perform a 540 in a pipe" is too much of a jargon for DYK. Materialscientist (talk) 05:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Collision (film)

• ... that the documentary film Collision spotlights several days of debate between prominent atheist Christopher Hitchens and conservative theologian Douglas Wilson?

Created by Sweetmoose6 (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 15:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article is very slightly short of 1500 characters, so a bit more expansion is needed. Are you sure that there should be a hyphen in "days-worth"? decltype (talk) 11:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I added a bit, and by my count it's now 1939 characters, so I think we're OK now. As far as "days-worth", I thought that was correct, but you can drop it if I'm wrong... — Hunter Kahn _(c) 13:55, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I believe it should be "days' worth". But "several days of debate" would also be clear enough. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:10, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Good to go, then. I changed the wording to "several days of debate" per above. decltype (talk) 09:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Tom Schedler

• ... that as a Louisiana state senator, Tom Schedler teamed with later U.S. Senator David Vitter to repeal the Louisiana inheritance tax, effective in 2004?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Carolyn Stait

• ... that Carolyn Stait, the first woman to reach Commodore rank in the Royal Navy, had enlisted in 1975 with plans to transfer to the diplomatic service?

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Nominated by Gonzonoir (talk) at 14:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Campus (TV series)

• ... that British sitcom pilot Campus, which was written by six of the same writers who wrote Green Wing, is set in a red brick university whose motto is "With wings"?

5x expanded by ISD (talk). Nominated by ISD (talk) at 11:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Eugene Saturday Market

• ... that the Eugene Saturday Market in Eugene, Oregon, is the oldest weekly open-air crafts market in the United States and is attended by 3,000 and 5,000 people every week?

Created by Orygun (talk). Nominated by Orygun (talk) at 02:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and facts verified. decltype (talk) 16:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Third-party accessories for the Wii Remote

• ... that one of the Third-party accesories for the Wii Remote is that two students created a driver software that has the capability to connect the Wii Remote to a Symbian OS smartphone. ?

Created by Secret Saturdays (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• In addition to lesser grammar problems, "accessory" in this context means a device, not an event; see Video game accessory for instance. But this might work:
• ALT1:... that two students created driver software that transforms a Symbian OS smartphone into a third-party accessory for the Wii Remote? Art LaPella (talk) 03:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

  This version is much better than what I came up with. This is DYK-material. Secret Saturdays (talk) 05:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• The source provided is a primary source which is a website that is no longer online. MuZemike 02:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

San Andrés Mixquic

• ... that the church cemetery of San Andrés Mixquic glows with thousands of lighted candles and burning incense on the night of 2 November?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Nominated by Thelmadatter (talk) at 23:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Ivan Moffat

• ... that Academy Award nominated screenwriter Ivan Moffat was the grandson of Victorian actor Sir Herbert Beerbohm Tree?

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 22:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Eileen Hurly

• ... that aged just 13, Eileen Hurly scored the first recorded century in South African women's cricket?

Created by Harrias (talk). Nominated by Harrias (talk) at 21:40, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• All aspects of the nomination check out. decltype (talk) 11:38, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Industrial web theory

• ... that the industrial web theory was originally based on the conviction by Air Corps Tactical School instructors that a fleet of heavy bombers was invincible?

Created by Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 20:56, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Old newspaper accepted as source for hook. decltype (talk) 11:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Eigenmannia vicentespelaea

• ... that Eigenmannia vicentespelaea is the only known South American knifefish that exclusively inhabits caves?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yakovlev Yak-8

• ... that the Soviet mixed-construction (wood, steel and fabric) Yakovlev Yak-8 utility aircraft was probably not put into production in 1944 because the Soviets were switching to all-metal aircraft?

Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 19:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Sounds too speculative (especially given the "Soviets", i.e. "we never know what the're up to"). Materialscientist (talk) 11:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• That's how my source gives it; it's almost a quote. No firm reason was provided.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 05:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Joe Pedicino, Boni Blackstone

• ... that former pro wrestling announcers, and real life husband and wife, Joe Pedicino and Boni Blackstone, often referred to themselves humbly as "wrestling fans who got lucky"?

• Comment: Both articles created today via the Articles for Creation process. Unfortunately, hook is cited to offline source. I think it can be accepted in good faith, but an alternative hook may be preferred.

Created by 72.74.205.185 (talk). Nominated by AJCham (talk) at 19:00, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

C. Vijayaraghavachariar

• ... that C. Vijayaraghavachariar, former President of the Indian National Congress, also served as President of All India Hindu Mahasabha in 1931?

5x expanded by Wikiality123 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Dublin Gazette

• ... that during the Easter Rising of 1916, the Dublin Gazette printed a proclamation of martial law and ceased publication?

5x expanded by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 16:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Donald Allister

• ... that the next Bishop of Peterborough, Donald Allister, hit the headlines in the UK in 2001 when it was reported that he had banned a couple from having the hymn "Jerusalem" at their wedding?

Created by David Underdown (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• For clarity, the hook fact is not cited where it is mentioned in the lead, but is cited in the body of the article. David Underdown (talk) 16:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

John Albert Axel Gibson, Bechuanaland National Airways, Botswana National Airways

• ... that World War II air ace Johnny Gibson formed Bechuanaland National Airways and Botswana National Airways in the 1960s?

• Comment: This is a triple nomination, all 3 are new articles

Created by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Confirmed all three. Geraldk (talk) 14:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Should Bechuanaland National Airways and Botswana National Airways really be presented as two separate companies? Or did the airline simply change its name because Bechuanaland changed its name to Botswana? Both name changes occurred in 1966. Art LaPella (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

They are both separate companies. Bechuanaland NA entered receivership and Botswana NA was formed to fill the gap. --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 07:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

If this is chosen for DYK, User:David Underdown should also be credited for the John Albert Axel Gibson article, given that he has also expanded the article since I placed it into mainspace. --Russavia ^{I'm chanting as we speak} 19:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Margaret Nicholson

• ... that after George III was attacked with an ivory-handled dessert knife by Margaret Nicholson, the number of men guarding him was raised from 4 to 11?

Created by DrKiernan (talk). Nominated by DrKiernan (talk) at 08:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Offline ref accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 14:05, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Clerici solution

• ... that Clerici solution could be as transparent as water and up to 5 times heavier?

Created by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 08:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Playhouse Theatre (Seattle)

• ... that in the 1930s Seattle's Playhouse Theatre was home to what Federal Theatre Project director Hallie Flanagan considered the project's best "Negro unit"?

Created by Jmabel (talk). Self nom at 07:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT ... that 1930s Federal Theatre Project director Hallie Flanagan considered the project's best "Negro unit" to be the one at Seattle's Playhouse Theatre?

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 5

Manchester and Salford Yeomanry

• ...

that the Manchester and Salford Yeomanry was disbanded in 1824, five years after Hugh Hornby Birley led the regiment's bloody charge on unarmed voting rights demonstrators in the Peterloo Massacre?

• Comment: New article on a regiment that's significant in British political history.

Created/expanded by Rupert Clayton (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

HMS Peruvian (1808) & HMS Zenobia (1807)

• ... that Ascension Island was annexed in 1815 by the British crew of HMS Peruvian and HMS Zenobia so as to deny the French from using it as a base to rescue Napoleon from Saint Helena?

Created by Acad Ronin (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Alt: I suggest replacing "crew" with "captains", which is what the source says. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Salt for Svanetia

• ... that most of the scenes of the Soviet documentary Salt for Svanetia were staged?

Created by Vrubel's Demons (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hm .. Date, length, refs Ok, but. Is it only me, or the hook sounds somewhat negative (considering the movie was widely praised and that it was shot as a fiction and re-edited into a documentary). Anyway, the 1930 date is needed. Materialscientist (talk) 01:24, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
  • References for the 1930/1931 date added. What about the alternative hook: ALT1 "... that the Soviet documentary Salt for Svanetia was originally planned to be a fictional feature film?" Демоны Врубеля/Vrubel's Demons (talk) 05:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

    with ALT1 (correct the wording if not satisfied). Date, length refs checked. Picture can be stripped (non-lead hook). Materialscientist (talk) 05:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Jim Trickey

Jim Trickey

• ... that flags at the University of Iowa were flown at half-mast following the death from peritonitis of Jim Trickey (pictured), one year after he became the first Hawkeye to win All-American honors in 1912?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 05:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Offline refs accepted in good faith. Geraldk (talk) 00:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Slingsby T.53

• ... that the Slingsby T.53 was the first all-metal sailplane designed and built in the United Kingdom?

Created by MilborneOne (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Confirmed. Geraldk (talk) 00:01, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

PS Monarch

• ... that PS Monarch, currently operating cruises along River Medina on the Isle of Wight, is the world's smallest commercially operated paddle steamer?

Created by Editor5807 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Is there a more neutral source for this claim? The in-line citation seems to be from the company that owns it and even source three says it's 'reputed to be' the smallest. Geraldk (talk) 00:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Shanti Bhushan

• ... that Shanti Bhushan is a prominent advocate and judicial activist in India who has represented H. D. Deve Gowda, the former Prime Minister of India, Arundhati Roy and the accused in the 1993 Mumbai bomb blasts case and in the 2001 Indian Parliament attacks?

5x expanded by Trakesht (talk). Nominated by Trakesht (talk) at 04:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• 257 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• ... that Shanti Bhushan is an advocate in India who has represented Deve Gowda, Arundhati Roy and the accused in the 1993 Mumbai bomb blasts case and the 2001 Indian Parliament attack?

reduced 64 characters trakesht (talk) 10:02, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror

• ... that press releases for the Phineas and Ferb episode "Lawn Gnome Beach Party of Terror" detailed a cut subplot where the character Lawrence Fletcher searches for a rare bottle cap?

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 00:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hook is 226 characters. Also, as an aside, in the bit about the press release, I think you mean antiquities. Iniquities means sins. Geraldk (talk) 00:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Shortened, it should be good now. The Flash ^{talk} 00:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Confirmed now. Geraldk (talk) 16:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Socialist League of the New East

• ... that the Socialist League of the New East, founded by émigré Socialist-Revolutionaries in Czechoslovakia in 1927, called for splitting up the Soviet Union into separate national states?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Chinyaeva seems only to say that they advocated the option of secession from multi-national states, and the other source is not properly formatted. Geraldk (talk) 00:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• I've expanded the second ref somewhat now. The second ref states that "“Socialist League of the New East,” which called for the USSR to be broken up into independent nation-states". --Soman (talk) 07:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, saw that, just needed it formatted properly. Confirmed and good to go. Geraldk (talk) 16:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Sankeien

• ... that the huge Sankeien garden in Yokohama, Japan, which houses ten Important National Cultural Properties, is the creation of a man who liked to collect old buildings?

5x expanded by Urashimataro (talk). Nominated by Urashimataro (talk) at 07:28, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Homer the Whopper

• ... that in the episode "Homer the Whopper" the writers tried not to repeat the comic book film theme from the "Radioactive Man" episode? Instead they decided to parody the fact that almost every comic book has been turned into a film.

5x expanded by Theleftorium (talk). Nominated by Pedro thy master (talk) at 01:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article has been greatly expanded over a period of one month (give or take a few days). DYK requires it to have been expanded over the last ten days. Unless I'm missing something (which is often the case). decltype (talk) 07:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I will try to expanded.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 11:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not that, it's the fact that it's been 5x expanded for over a month, far longer than the requirements for DYK. The Flash ^{talk} 00:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

He has a point.--Pedro J. ^{the rookie} 00:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 4

Arwystli

• ... that the insulting treatment Llywelyn the Last, Prince of Wales, received from King Edward I of England regarding a legal dispute over the cantref of Arwystli escalated tensions between the Principality of Wales and the English crown?

Created by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Hook is 234 characters. Needs to be 200 or under. Geraldk (talk) 01:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

How about: ... that the cantref of Arwystli was at the center of a dispute involving Llywelyn the Last and Edward I of England, which escalated tensions between the Principality of Wales and the English crown? --Cúchullain ^t/c 04:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

IFPI Greece

• ... that pirated product was identified by the IFPI to account for 50% of all music sales in Greece in 2006?

5x expanded by Imperatore (talk), Greekboy (talk), Grk1011 (talk). Nominated by Grk1011 (talk) at 03:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• This hook doesn't sound quite right. Music that is copied illegally presumably doesn't account for "sales"... decltype (talk) 19:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• They are referring to homemade copies of cds that are sold on the streets, not illegal downloads. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• Ah, in that case, pardon my ignorance. I had no idea there was a market for that kind of thing, even back in '06 decltype (talk) 06:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

OR

• ... that IFPI Greece substantially decreased the sales targets for a platinum certification for a Greek album from 30k units to 12k units due to ongoing piracy? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Stephen Schilling

• ... that Michigan Wolverines football offensive lineman Stephen Schilling almost never became a football player because he was too big?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 20:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• "almost never"? Is this a definite fact? Too big? Or too big for his age? Could he play in a "bigger" class? How about "did not participate in organized football in his youth because of his size"? --74.13.131.111 (talk) 20:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
• ALT1: ... that Michigan Wolverines football offensive lineman Stephen Schilling was unable to play organized high school football due to his size? Harrias (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Almost there. When I read "due to his size" I thought that he was too small, even though the source says he was too large. Can anyone think of a way to incorporate his "large size" into the hook without being too POVish? MuZemike 01:36, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
• The hook above was incorrect--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that Michigan Wolverines football offensive lineman Stephen Schilling was unable to play organized youth football due to his large size?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Richard Woodman (martyr), James Henry Hurdis, Mark Antony Lower

• ... that the cult of the Sussex martyrs (pictured) is said to have been started by Mark Lower using James Hurdis's etching of Richard Woodman and nine others burning to death?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 18:04, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

source is the odnb which is subscription only. Hurdis' entry says "But by far his best-known work did not appear until 1853, an engraving of Frederick Colvin's imaginary scene of the burning of ten protestants at Lewes in 1557. The print was influential in Lower's creation of the cult of the Sussex Martyrs, and became a virtual icon in the dissenting homes of the county." Victuallers (talk) 19:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, image and size checks out for all three pages, offline/subscription ref accepted in good faith. Harrias (talk) 16:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Kingdom of Tambapanni

• ... that the Kingdom of Tambapanni was established in 543 BC, on the day of the death of the Buddha, with the Landing of Vijaya, a North Indian prince banished from his kingdom in the present day Indian state of Orissa?

Created by Blackknight12 (talk) 02:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Can't see a reference for the actual hook information? Harrias (talk) 16:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT... that Prince Vijaya, the founder of the Kingdom of Tambapanni, landed at Tambapanni on the day of the death of Gautama Buddha?--Chanaka L (talk) 02:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Jake Warga

• ... that Jake Warga was an assistant cameraman on Witchboard 2: The Devil's Doorway, The Prophecy 3: The Ascent and Mimic 2 before becoming a story contributor for National Public Radio?

Created by Grbrumder (talk) and LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 01:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• The sentence(s) containing the fact(s) in the hook need to be directly cited, i.e. have a reference at the end. (for the Asst cameraman credits) Harrias (talk) 16:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ottoman embassy to France (1534)

• ... that the 1534 Ottoman embassy to France was composed of janissaries (pictured) who travelled to Châtellerault and Paris to meet King Francis I?

Created by PHG (talk). Nominated by PHG (talk) at 06:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• I changed "and" to "who" and lost "with" Victuallers (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and image all check out, offline refs AGF. Harrias (talk) 16:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

George W. Della

• ... that Maryland politician George W. Della served both as President of the Maryland Senate and as Potentate of the Boumi Temple of the Shrine?

Created by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

• The sentence(s) containing the fact(s) in the hook need to be directly cited, i.e. have a reference at the end. Regards SoWhy 09:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Moved the ref up from the end of the paragraph to the specific sentence that mentions his being President of the Senate. Prefer a heads up if there's an issue with one of my hooks. I only noticed this because I was running through approving hooks myself. Geraldk (talk) 01:51, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Lou Jing

• ... that Lou Jing, a black Chinese talent show contestant, unleashed a horde of racist commentary from Chinese internet users after her appearance on a Shanghai idol contest?

Created by Arilang1234 (talk). Nominated by User Colipon+(Talk) 18:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Negative hook on a BLP article (H6). I don't think we should be putting up on the front page how she is being racially discriminated. Most of the article focuses on this too, and it looks like there's no other interesting fact that we can use for this. I'd like to see what others think about this though. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 12:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

While the discrimination is in itself negative, it certainly does not reflect badly on the subject (that she is being discriminated against), and I think the article is an interesting read. However, I see where you are coming from. It is hard coming up with good hook that deals with a different aspect of the subject. decltype (talk) 17:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

One more thing — the non-free image used in the article probably fails WP:NFCC#1 as a non-free image of a living person, where a free equivalent would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. decltype (talk) 17:45, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 3

Julien Fountain

• ... that before becoming a fielding coach with the West Indies and Pakistan national cricket teams, Julien Fountain used to pitch for the Great Britain national baseball team?

Created by Hack (talk), Windiescricketfan (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 16:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article has multiple language, grammar and POV problems, not suitable for the front page in it's current form. Harrias (talk) 11:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Discovery and development of CCR5 receptor antagonists

• ... that CCR5 receptor antagonists are drugs that inhibit the entry of the HIV virus into cells of the immune system?

5x expanded by Hop12009 (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 16:45, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• The article is undeniably much better now, but the prose expansion is 14822/4017=3.7 Materialscientist (talk) 10:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article was created Oct 10th in the user space and moved into the main space on November 6th. This would make it a new article nomination rather than an expansion. Date length, and hook verified AGF for offline sources Calmer Waters 10:14, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

University Revolution

• ... that the University Revolution (pictured) began in Argentina in 1918 and it eventually spread to all of Latin America?

• ALT1:... that the University Revolution (participants pictured) would help inspire the 1960's student movement in industrialized countries?

Created/expanded by Carau (talk), 201.255.105.110 (talk) and 201.255.127.241 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Prose expansion 6868/3426=2 (5x required). Most of the article is unreferenced. Materialscientist (talk) 04:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Brown Bottom

• ... that the period from 1999 to 2002, when gold prices were the lowest for 20 years, has been dubbed the Brown Bottom?

• Comment: Usage cited here and here, both included in the References section. -- Testing times (talk) 19:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Created by Testing times (talk). at 19:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

• Note: Currently at articles for deletion. --Bruce1ee^talk 06:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• ... and the result was Keep. --Bruce1ee^talk 06:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

• In which case the article is good to go. decltype (talk) 07:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 2

Mike Branch (Louisiana politician)

• ... that Mike Branch, a Louisiana state senator who served from 1996 to 2000, is now a flight instructor in Las Vegas, Nevada?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 19:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article length, date, and sourcing check out, but I am not quite convinced by the source for the fact in the hook: how do you know that this is not a different Michael Franklin Branch? Ucucha 18:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

• So he switched jobs after 4 years. Big deal. Anything more interesting? --74.13.131.111 (talk) 20:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not just switching jobs. Most former legislators rarely leave their states. It is the same M.F. Branch based on an address check.Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I believe the bar is set a bit higher for sourcing at DYK than that, especially if there is no documentation of it in the article itself. Ucucha 21:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Gigantomachy

• ... that during Gigantomachy Hephaestus was said to have fainted, being rescued by Helios in his chariot?

5x expanded by Brandmeister (talk). Nominated by Brandmeister (talk) at 22:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that during Gigantomachy Heracles was the only mortal on the side of Olympians?

Copyright problems: both hook facts are lifted almost verbatim from the cited sources. Ucucha 02:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

See WP:COPYLINK: Since most recently-created works are copyrighted, almost any Wikipedia article which cites its sources will link to copyrighted material. It is not necessary to obtain the permission of a copyright holder before linking to copyrighted material, just as an author of a book does not need permission to cite someone else's work in their bibliography. Brand[t] 06:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Citing irrelevant policies does not matter. There is a difference between citing sources and copying text (that is, plagiarism), and this article is on the wrong side of that distinction. Ucucha 12:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 1

Water resources management in Syria

• ... that there are 165 dams in Syria, with a total storage capacity of 19,599 million m³?

Created by Mschiffler (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Article length and date and hook cite verified, but several paragraphs now lack sources altogether; these must be added for the article to be promoted at DYK. Ucucha 03:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

I've just left a note on the author's usertalkpage. Hopefully, (s)he can put in more footnotes, etc. soon. --PFHLai (talk) 04:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Greater Assam

• ... that the Government of India banned Greater Assam in 1990 and classifies it as a terrorist group, while the US State Department lists it under "Other groups of concern"?

Created/expanded by Ivazir (talk). Nominated by Pmlinediter (talk) at 17:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

• I think it should be just "banned". "had banned" requires that the event be put in relation with a later one. Circeus (talk) 18:14, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

•  Done Pmlineditor ∞ 09:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

This looks like nothing but a fork of United Liberation Front of Asom. D6 says that an article should deal adequately with its subject; I do not think this article does. It should probably be merged with Assam conflict in its current state. Ucucha 03:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

... and its not about Greater Assam. Victuallers (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 30

Mike Smith (Louisiana politician)

• ... that term-limited Democratic State Senator Mike Smith of Winnfield, Louisiana, was succeeded in 2008 by his Republican cousin, Gerald Long of Natchitoches?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

ALT: ... that former State Senator Mike Smith obtained funding for the Louisiana Technical College – Huey P. Long Campus under construction in Winnfield, Louisiana?

• Article length and length of hook and alt good. The source cited however, does not mention Long being a Republican, and it appears to be an editorial in a self-published work, rather than a good WP:RS. As both are living folks, a better quality source would be more appropriate. Same source is used for the alt, so has the same problem regarding being reliable. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Clarification of party addedBilly Hathorn (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Great. Still need the RS issue fixed, though, for their being cousins. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:53, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

Articles for November 14

MV Pieter Corneliszoon Hooft

• ... that the Dutch ocean liner Pieter Corneliszoon Hooft caught fire before entering service, in service, and on her way to the scrapyard?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 21:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

• Comment - can this be run on 14 November, the anniversary of the fire which ended her career? Mjroots (talk) 21:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

That sounds good. The article length and date are right, but we need more specific referencing for the first and third fire (i.e., immediately following the sentence about the fire). Ucucha 21:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Refs sorted. Mjroots (talk) 21:36, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Ucucha 21:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for Nov 15

Villatina Massacre

• ... that on November 15, 1992, members of the Colombian National Police gunned down nine members of a church youth group in Medellín?

• Comment: The hook is a little inflammatory, but despite the lack of a verdict in the case, the government of Colombia has admitted that it was police who committed the attack

5x expanded by Geraldk (talk). Self nom at 01:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1... that during the Villatina Massacre of November 15, 1992, in Medellín, Colombia, eight-year-old Johana Mazo Ramírez and eight others were shot and killed by the police? Geraldk (talk) 01:21, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Article length and hook/alt lengths good. If PDF in refs is being used, should be inline cite, else removed or moved to EL. I am a little confused, though, as from the article it seems "likely" that they killers were the police, but it also seems like it has not been definitively stated it was? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• There has been no criminal conviction, but the Colombian government has formally admitted that it was Colombian National Police members who committed the murders, as mentioned in source #2, paragraph 8. Geraldk (talk) 02:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for clarifying. Citations good...rather sad state of affairs. Interesting article . Good work. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for November 26 – U.S. Thanksgiving Day

Unthanksgiving day

• ... that Unthanksgiving day is held annually on Alcatraz Island as a counterpoint to the traditional Thanksgiving story and to give thanks for Native American survival in the face of genocide?

Created by Tulkoju (talk), Drmies (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

• The hook is a tad too long (at 201 characters). Please shorten the hook a little. MuZemike 02:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

• I removed two words, but no meaning changed. It is now 188 characters long. - Tim1965 (talk) 03:39, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

• Should be good, now. I already checked and verified the hook. MuZemike 00:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for December 11 (and following days) – Hanukkah

A Rugrats Chanukah

• ... that the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992?

Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Self nom at 21:06, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

• Lengths and hook facts OK (AGF on offline sources; citations are to RS sources). It's an interesting article. I wonder if the hook could be made more interesting by revising it to say "... that although the Rugrats episode "A Rugrats Chanukah" was pitched to the series crew by Nickelodeon in 1992, it was not produced until 1996?" --Orlady (talk) 03:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

• That one does sound better. Consider that my ALT1. The Flash ^{talk} 02:31, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

• Uninvolved tick for Orlady's Alt hook, it is an improvement on the original and the facts check out. Maedin\^talk 12:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

See also

• User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).