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TFA today
Today it's The American Bible Challenge. I'd not heard of this and so found it quite interesting but there are a couple of issues:
- The blurb and article use the present tense in many places, as if the show is still in production. It was confusing to get that impression and then realise that the show is not now active. I suppose this arose because the bulk of the article was written when the show was running but now a historical tone would be better.
- The blurb and article talk about "the Bible" as if that's clear and unambiguous. But the Bible is like football — there are many versions and, for a game show, this would be quite important. I gather that the show used the New International Version but don't know if that was followed consistently and the article doesn't say. For some examples of how this matters, see list of Bible verses not included in modern translations.
Andrew D. (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- I've sorted the issues with tense. The rest is certainly beyond my ability. Black Kite (talk) 15:22, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks BK. I think this is a point worth bringing up, Andrew, but it's not addressed in the article, wasn't addressed at FAC, doesn't seem to have been addressed by the critics, and AFAICT it isn't addressed in the sources. It's very much worth discussing, but let's see changes in the article first. On the wording in the blurb: if I had said "he quotes the Bible", that would be ambiguous. But you don't need to know the exact wording for a show to be "Biblical-themed", or to answer questions about it, just like you don't have to quote Walt Disney for a theme park to be Disney-themed, or to answer questions about Disney. - Dank (push to talk) 15:30, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- The tense was discussed in the talk page; present tense is correct and follows MOS:TENSE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_American_Bible_Challenge Umimmak (talk) 15:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Umimmak. I'm putting some diffs together on this question for the shows that most commonly show up at FAC. So far I've just got X-Files (in the middle of 2015, when it hadn't been in production for a long time): X-Files "is". Will keep looking. - Dank (push to talk) 15:36, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Star Trek: The Next Generation "is", Dexter (TV series) "is" ... and from memory it's "is". Let's keep it present tense as long as it's present tense in the article. - Dank (push to talk) 15:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Which is what it was originally and what MOS says to do. People are too quick to change "errors" without first making sure they're actually errors and that their change actually is an improvement. Umimmak (talk) 15:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Great. I'll put it back then. After all, it's clear that a TV show which no longer airs, and hasn't done for three years, should be written in the present tense, isn't it? The MOS is complete nonsense sometimes. Actually, forget "sometimes". Black Kite (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks to Dank for doing that already. Black Kite (talk) 15:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry guys, been busy all day (it is that time of year; fitting a biblical-themed article is the TFA for Christmas Eve!). Does anything else need to be addressed? Ping me if you need anything. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 21:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks to Dank for doing that already. Black Kite (talk) 15:46, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Great. I'll put it back then. After all, it's clear that a TV show which no longer airs, and hasn't done for three years, should be written in the present tense, isn't it? The MOS is complete nonsense sometimes. Actually, forget "sometimes". Black Kite (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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OTD today
- The listing for the Christmas truce says "the World War I". I imagine this is a combination of "World War I" and "the First World War" that should probably be fixed. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 01:43, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for spotting that. —howcheng {chat} 20:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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- I expect this to receive short shrift, but Christmas has swathes of unreferenced text... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- I added a few references and deleted some other text. The only area left that could use more help is the Julian calendar bits. —howcheng {chat} 20:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
DYK current
... that you won't find any Ba humbugi on Christmas Island? this is not even referenced in the article & more so how can you prove a negative? I would suggest a reword to something like ... that Ba humbugi is not native to Christmas Island? but I would suggest pulling until it's referenced in the article. @The Rambling Man: Seattle (talk) 07:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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Why is the "Church of St. Mary and St. Michaels, Bonds" pictured when it was NOT a church that E.G. Paley worked on? The text actually LISTS it as one of the "EXCEPTIONS" {capitalized emphasis mine}.
In other words, how about a picture/photo of something Paley actually built or worked on?
Or am I misunderstanding what's written? 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 00:49, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
OK, I did misread. I 'missed' the 'importance' of the specifiers/modifiers of "Church of England" and "Roman Catholic."
My apologies. 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 01:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC) Please report any such problems or suggestions for improvement at the General discussion section of Talk:Main Page.