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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 22

Joe Riley (artist)

• ... that SubGenius artist Joe Riley made masks and prosthetic makeups for gore movies as well as art and designs for animated children franchises?

• ALT1:... that the Satan-like entity NHGH of the Church of the SubGenius had its official face designed by a children animated film artist, Joe Riley?
• ALT2:... that artist Joe Riley was canonized by Rev. Ivan Stang of the Church of the SubGenius as St. Joe Riley?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Joe Riley (artist) – The Little Blue Frog (give) (tag)

• The original version made me wonder if the children were being animated and controlling imaginary franchises, so I suggest "children's animation franchises". Similarly for ALT1; is the artist children or is he animated? I suggest "children's animated film artist" or "children's animation film artist". Each of my suggestions get more Google hits than what they replace. Art LaPella (talk) 22:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Willard Stone

• ... that "Lady of Spring", a work by Native American sculptor Willard Stone, was exhibited at the White House, where it was compared to a Vargas nude?

Created by Arxiloxos (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Willard Stone – Arxiloxos (give) (tag)

• ALT 1: ... that Native American sculptor Willard Stone became a master wood carver despite an accidental explosion that cost him his right thumb and two fingers when he was 13 years old?--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Please note: if the first suggestion is selected, there is a nice photo of Stone's sculpture "Lady of Spring" on the federal government's archival website for the Clinton White House.[1] I am not familiar enough with Wikipedia's photo policies to have an informed opinion about whether this photo may be used to illustrate the article and/or the DYK. Maybe someone more experienced would like to take a look? Thanks.--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Robert Tills

• ... that Robert Tills was the first American naval officer killed during the Battle of the Philippines, and had a ship named after him in his honor?

Created by Tills (talk). Self nom at 19:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Robert Tills – Tills (give) (tag)

Agaricus lilaceps

File:Agaricus lilaceps.JPG

• ... that while commonly found in central California, Agaricus lilaceps (pictured) can sometimes be found at the campus of Stanford University under the eucalyptus located there?

Created by ImperatorExercitus (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Agaricus lilaceps – ImperatorExercitus (give) (tag)

Bovista nigrescens

• ... that Bovista nigrescens infected young pine seedlings of the species Pinus caribaea throughout Europe?

Created by ImperatorExercitus (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Bovista nigrescens – ImperatorExercitus (give) (tag)

World Conference on Human Rights

• ... that the rules of the 1993 World Conference on Human Rights in Vienna forbade mentioning any country or conflict by name, and instead human rights had to be discussed in the abstract?

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   World Conference on Human Rights – Wasted Time R (give) (tag)

• Source, length, and history verified. Awadewit (talk) 15:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Darkness over Daggerford

• ... that the development of Darkness over Daggerford, an expansion for the computer game Neverwinter Nights, was coordinated mostly over Skype?

Created by Vantine84 (talk). Self nom at 13:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Darkness over Daggerford – Vantine84 (give) (tag)

Ruby Cycle Co Ltd

• ... that the Ruby Cycle Co Ltd was bankrupted when a large motorcycle order from the Imperial Russian Army was stopped by the Russian Revolution?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 09:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Ruby Cycle Co Ltd – Thruxton (give) (tag)

Northman

• ... that Northman, an ealdorman in northern Northumbria, made his only known appearance south of the Humber in the year after his territory was attacked by Vikings?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 07:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   [[]] – Deacon of Pndapetzim (give) (tag) – View nom subpage

• Length and history are fine, but I can't find this fact in the article...I presume it's something having to do with the Woolf quotation, but I guess it went a bit over my head. Can you help clarify? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm assuming it's ' "In this year Bamburgh was sacked and much booty was captured there, and after that the army came to the mouth of the Humber and did great damage there, both in Lindsey and in Northumbria. Then a very large English army was collected, and when they should have joined battle, the leaders Fræna, Godwine and Frythegyst, first started the flight" Woolf thought that both Northman and Waltheof were in the south for this reason.' :) Cheers. I'^mperator 17:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• It is in the article, though I suppose you gotta add two and two to get it. The article says he has two historical appearances (cited), one of which is :

"A Norþman dux, "Ealdorman Northmann", witnessed a charter dating to 994 by King Æthelred II ("the Unready").[10] The charter is a grant of 10 hides at Fovant, Wiltshire, to the church of St Mary, Wilton"

• Wilton is south of the Humber, i.e. in England outside Northumbria; the other is from Durham, i.e. north of the Humber, in Northumbria. Then the article talks about how the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle describes the plundering of Bamburgh the previous year; the chronological connection can be cited to Woolf. Does this clarify it? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Ambassador of Russia to Austria

• ... that Beethoven composed three string quartets under commission from Andrey Kirillovich Razumovsky (pictured), who at the time was Ambassador of the Russian Empire to the Austrian Empire?

5x expanded by Russavia (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: Note that the article previously was simply a list, with no prose.Russavia ^Dialogue 05:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Ambassador of Russia to Austria – Russavia (give) (tag)

Golos Truda

• ... that the Russian anarcho-syndicalist newspaper Golos Truda relocated from New York to Petrograd when its entire editorial staff decided to move to Russia following the February Revolution?

Created/expanded by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 04:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Golos Truda – Skomorokh (give) (tag)

George Murray (Royal Navy officer)

• ... that Captain George Murray (pictured) led Nelson's fleet at the attack on Copenhagen using knowledge he had gained from surveying the area a decade earlier?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 03:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   George Murray (Royal Navy officer) – Benea (give) (tag)

• Size, date, and image fine. AGF on offline hook source. Nice work, btw. ^Law _shoot! 03:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway

• ... that London's Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway was built at the start of the 20th century, from parts of three other railways' routes?

Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 01:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway – DavidCane (give) (tag)

Cotoneaster salicifolius

• ... that willow-leaved cotoneaster (Cotoneaster salicifolius) is a woody plant which is native to Western China, with over 30 cultivars which range from tiny groundcovers to large shrubs?

Created by Hamamelis (talk). nom by Earthdirt (talk) 17:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Cotoneaster salicifolius – Hamamelis (give) (tag)

Articles created/expanded on March 21

SS class blimp

• ... that the first SS class blimp entered service on 18 March 1915; less than three weeks after work was started on the type?

Created by Red Sunset (talk). Self nom at 21:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   SS class blimp – Red Sunset (give) (tag)

Arthur W. Ryder

• ... that Arthur W. Ryder taught the Bhagavad Gita in Sanskrit to Robert Oppenheimer, who said it shaped his philosophy of life and famously quoted it at the Trinity nuclear test explosion?

Created by Shreevatsa (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Arthur W. Ryder – Shreevatsa (give) (tag)

• Comment by nominator: Feel free to reword/rewrite. There is one ref in the article, and there are more refs at Robert Oppenheimer and Trinity (nuclear test). Shreevatsa (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Ellie Kemper

• ... that Entertainment Weekly reported comedian Ellie Kemper is set to take on the role of Dunder Mifflin receptionist in NBC's U.S. version of The Office?

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 20:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Ellie Kemper – Hunter Kahn (give) (tag)

• Currently tagged as a stub by the creator. Shubinator (talk) 20:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Mesangiospermae

• ... that there are about 350,000 known species of mesangiosperms?

Created by 128.171.106.252 (talk). Nominated by FingersOnRoids (talk) at 19:07, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Mesangiospermae – 128.171.106.252 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: FingersOnRoids (give)

Fourteen Hours

• ... that Grace Kelly made her screen debut in Fourteen Hours, a 1951 film about a man contemplating suicide?

5x expanded by Stetsonharry (talk). Self nom at 18:09, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Fourteen Hours – Stetsonharry (give) (tag)

Kasturi Ranga Iyengar

• ... that Indian independence activist and Managing-Director of The Hindu from 1905 to 1923, Kasturi Ranga Iyengar, was a brother of Anglophile Indian civil servant S. Srinivasa Raghavaiyangar?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 17:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Kasturi Ranga Iyengar – Ravichandar84 (give) (tag)

Li Jiang

• ... that after the Tang Dynasty general Li Jiang died in a mutiny, his successor Wen Zao slaughtered the mutineers and offered their heads to Li Jiang as a sacrifice?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Li Jiang – Nlu (give) (tag)

Dejan Vojnović, Jurica Grabušić, Slaven Krajačić

• ... that three members of the Croatian bobsleigh team at the 2006 Winter Olympics, namely Dejan Vojnović, Jurica Grabušić and Slaven Krajačić, were former Olympic athletes?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 10:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC). Also, User:GregorB helped expand the article Dejan Vojnović.

•   Dejan Vojnović – Punkmorten (give) (tag)
•   Jurica Grabušić – Punkmorten (give) (tag)
•   Slaven Krajačić – Punkmorten (give) (tag)
•   Dejan Vojnović – GregorB (give) (tag)

Maurice Macdonald Seymour

• ... that Dr. Maurice Macdonald Seymour M.D., C. M., D. P. H. established the Saskatchewan Medical Association in 1906?

Created by SriMesh (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Maurice Macdonald Seymour – SriMesh (give) (tag)

• Size, date, and hook ref all check out. ^Law _shoot! 02:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1... that Dr. Maurice Macdonald Seymour M.D., C. M., D. P. H. established the Saskatchewan Medical Association and the Saskatchewan Anti-Tuberculosis League? ^Law _shoot! 02:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• The "Dr. M.D., C. M., D. P. H." is really unnecessary, if you ask me. Punkmorten (talk) 10:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Camp Gilwell

• ... that Camp Gilwell is a Scouts Canada camp which features the haunted home of Dr. Maurice Macdonald Seymour M.D., C. M., D. P. H.?

Created by SriMesh (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Camp Gilwell – SriMesh (give) (tag)

• Size, date, and hook ref fine. ^Law _shoot! 02:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Bobby Folds

• ... that when Bobby Folds joined Gillingham F.C. in 1966, he became the club's first ever apprentice-professional footballer?

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Bobby Folds – ChrisTheDude (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date varified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. (Short article with one source.) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:10, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Real Change (history)

• ... that Real Change (vendor pictured) was the first street newspaper in the United States to be published weekly?

5x expanded by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: Nominating this using a new version of the template I'm working on, with a "history" link added; let me know if you find it useful or not. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 22:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Real Change – Rjanag (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry. I'm so used to looking at the (history) on my own that I didn't use your link. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Note: the image currently has a permission-missing tag because of concerns someone brought up at a related article's FAC, so the image will not be ok for us to use until either OTRS gets an e-mail or the editor withdraws his concerns (at which point the permission-missing tag would be removed). rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Walter Scott of Branxholme and Buccleuch

• ... that Sir Walter Scott of Branxholme and Buccleuch, chief of Clan Scott, survived the Battles of Flodden and Pinkie Cleugh only to be murdered in the High Street of Edinburgh in 1552?

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Walter Scott of Branxholme and Buccleuch – PKM (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Homeless Grapevine

• ... that Daniel Thompson, poet laureate of Cuyahoga County, used to publish work in the street newspaper Homeless Grapevine (advertisement pictured)?

Created/expanded by Apoc2400 (talk). Nominated by Rjanag (talk) at 19:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Homeless Grapevine – Apoc2400 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Rjanag (give)

• :* Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that Daniel Thompson, poet laureate of Cuyahoga County, published work in the street newspaper Homeless Grapevine (advertisement pictured)? (slight rewording) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

The Lover (2004 novel)

• ... that Laura Wilson's 2004 novel The Lover is a fictionalized account of Gordon Cummins, a British airman turned serial killer who began murdering prostitutes in London during War World II?

5x expanded by Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   The Lover (2004 novel) – Collectonian (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. The hook is not sourced in the article. (The first link http://www.amazon.co.uk//dp/0752859803/ goes to Amazon.com homepage and is pretty useless. Also, why is the Barnes & Nobles site http://books.barnesandnoble.com/search/results.aspx?WRD=The+Lover+Laura+Wilson referenced twice when it give no extra information? Counting the repeats, there are 5 links to booksellers sites, which seems excessive.) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, none of the official publisher's sites have the actual publication dates, so I had to use bookseller sites. The Barnes and Noble link is used to reference both the US hardback and paperback releases. Fixed the sourcing issues on the hook *doh thought I had done that* -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length, date and hook sources verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Operation Bringing Home the Goods

• ... that Operation Bringing Home the Goods was launched by Israel to capture Palestinian prisoners in Jericho to make sure they are not released?

Created by Nudve (talk). Self nom at 18:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Operation Bringing Home the Goods – Nudve (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Unfortunately, per DYK rules, the sourched hook is not in the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I've added inline citations to the lead. Is it OK now? -- Nudve (talk) 05:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length, date and hook sources verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

1948 College Football All-America Team

• ... that the 1948 All-America team was the first to include separate offensive and defensive teams, as one writer noted the "era of the iron man in football is rapidly passing"?

Created by cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   1948 College Football All-America team – cbl62 (give) (tag)

• Length and creation date verified, offline refs for quote and facts accepted in good faith. Jamie^☆S93 16:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Murri (condiment)

• ... that murri is an Arabic condiment akin to soy sauce which is made from barley dough allowed to rot for 40 days?

Created by Tiamut (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Murri (condiment) – Tiamut (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Casliber (give)

• alt ... that murri, an Arabic condiment akin to soy sauce, is made from barley dough allowed to ferment for 40 days? (rewording of hook above) —Mattisse (Talk) 15:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• Length and date verified. Offline book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Is not 'ferment' the operative phenomenon?--Wetman (talk) 17:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

We-ell yeah, I guess, but it is in essence rotting. Either is cool by me :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Alt Hook changed above; they are not the same thing at all - if murri rots it no doubt has to be thrown away, like other fermented foods. Johnbod (talk) 20:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Frank E. Baker Motorcycles Ltd

• ... that at the 1911 Olympia Motorcycle Show in London there were 96 motorcycles with Frank E. Baker's Precision engines?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 08:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Frank E. Baker Motorcycles Ltd – Thruxton (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Unsure of the sources for hook. The hook is sourced to this site: http://www.ianchadwick.com/index.html, specifically, http://www.ianchadwick.com/motorcycles/britbikes/, http://www.ianchadwick.com/motorcycles/britbikes/brit_p.html. Is this person an authority? —Mattisse (Talk) 15:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yes Ian Chadwick is specifically a leading authority on Triumph motorcycles but also an important source for other makes of British motorcycles Thruxton (talk) 09:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Siward Barn

• ... that after his release from prison in 1087, the English rebel Siward Barn is thought by some historians to have founded a colony on the Black Sea with other refugees from the Norman Conquest of England?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 08:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Siward Barn – Deacon of Pndapetzim (give) (tag)

• You know, this could be a DYK twofer, since New England (medieval) is also eligible. Constantine ✍ 14:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• New England already got pinched by the April Fools DYK. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Offline book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Alberto Cavos

• ... that Alberto Cavos designed and rebuilt two Bolshoi Theatres – one in Saint Petersburg and one in Moscow?

Created by [[User:User:NVO|User:NVO]] ([[User talk:User:NVO|talk]]). Self nom at 07:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Alberto Cavos – [[User:User:NVO|User:NVO]] (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Offline book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• ... that both Alexandre Benois and Peter Ustinov descend from the builder of the Mariinsky Theatre? --Ghirla^-трёп- 21:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Bradbury Motor Cycles

• ... that by 1910 Bradbury Motor Cycles had won over 300 first prizes including 18 gold medals in hill climbing competitions?

Created/expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Bradbury Motor Cycles – Thruxton (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Unsure about source for hook, as it is referenced by a hobbyist website as is most of the article: http://website.lineone.net/~bradbury1852/bradburymc.htm I have seen discussions of this issue at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard with varying views, depending on the nature of the info and the presence of other sources. Here there is a lack of compensating reliable sources. I would appreciate the views of other editors on this matter. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•  Done - it wasn't easy but I've found an original Bradbury advert if you have really good eyesight you should be able to verify the hook from this! Thruxton (talk) 09:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• That is the motorcycle company saying so. But is there not a neutral third-party source? Are there not comparative evaluations of motorcycles, the way PC World evaluates software, for example? It does not say who awarded the "gold medals". —Mattisse (Talk) 16:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas

• ... that the publication of the first volume of the anthology Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas in 2006 was hailed as a manifestation of a resurgent interest in anarchist philosophy?

Created/expanded by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas – Skomorokh (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. The closest I could find to the hook in the article is the following statement: ... leading post-anarchism theorist Saul Newman declared it to be symptomatic of a growing interest in anarchism and a revitalization of the anarchist tradition", and that it would "serve as an excellent introduction to the anti-authoritarian tradition, and an important resource for the scholar of anarchism". Is this close enough to the hook? —Mattisse (Talk) 16:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• I would feel more comfortable with a hook that was a little toned down:
• alt ... that a post-anarchism theorist called the publication of volume one of the anthology Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas in 2006 a sign of a resurgent interest in anarchist philosophy?

• Or a hook of your choice. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Point taken, but it's a rather boring article, and that was the most interesting piece I could find. Is the original hook ok if we attribute the claim and use less bombastic language? Skomorokh 01:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Your modification of the hook is fine, and I have changed the symbol! —Mattisse (Talk) 16:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

KVXX

• ... that the Christian Science Monitor once described radio station KSLM (now KVXX) in Salem, Oregon, as "a barricade holding questionable advertising material from the ears of listeners"?

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   KVXX – Dravecky (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Asad Ali Khan

• ... that Asad Ali Khan, one of a few remaining rudra veena players, was awarded the Indian civilian honor Padma Bhushan in 2008?

Created by Hekerui (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Asad Ali Khan – Hekerui (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Le Griffon

• ... that Michigan, France, and the United States have all sued for claim to the “holy grail” of Great Lakes shipwrecks, French explorer La Salle’s ship Le Griffon that sank in 1679?

5x expanded by Wpwatchdog (talk). Self nom at 20:37, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Le Griffon – Wpwatchdog (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date, and hook verified. However, please removed repeated external links to http://greatlakesexploration.org/ from the body of the article. There should be not external links in the body. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• The external link is removed from the Shipwreck section. An article by the Great Lakes Exploration Group is used as a reference in the Construction section. Should this be removed? --Wpwatchdog (talk) 02:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Great! Thanks for removing them. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 20

Southern White-cheeked Gibbon

• ... that the Southern White-cheeked Gibbon may be a hybrid species of the Northern White-cheeked Gibbon and the Yellow-cheeked Gibbon?

Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Southern White-cheeked Gibbon – Shimgray (give) (tag)

Jane Park

• ... that golfer Jane Park (pictured) reached the final of the U.S. Women's Amateur Championship in 2003 and 2004, and won the latter event?

Created by Giants2008 (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Jane Park – Giants2008 (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt ... that since joining the LPGA in 2007, golfer Jane Park (pictured) has earned almost $700,000 and recorded five top-10 finishes? (sourced statement taken from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• There are problems with this one, which are on me as the creator. The reference didn't cover what she's done in 2009, and I didn't think about it until I saw this here. I also didn't consider that one of her top-10s was as an amateur. Giants2008 (17-14) 17:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

List of Canadian Chiefs of the Defence Staff

General Walter Natyncyzk

• ... that the current Canadian Chief of the Defence Staff (CDS), General Walter Natynczyk, is the first CDS to not be of British or French descent?

Created by Tartarus (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Canadian Chiefs of the Defence Staff – Tartarus (give) (tag)

• 711 characters of prose. The table doesn't count. Shubinator (talk) 19:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Expanded quite a bit, to over 2000. TARTARUS ^talk 21:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• The hook is only mentioned in a footnote. Could you incorporate it into the main article (maybe the lead)? Also, I can't see a reference for the hook. Shubinator (talk) 22:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Expanded into a passage. TARTARUS ^talk 01:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• The reference says he was born in Romania, but does not say he was the first CDS to be born in another country. Shubinator (talk) 01:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you for the prod, but that is not what this hook is about. TARTARUS ^talk 01:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• (unindent) I am sorry if that last comment sounded snippy, but my point was that if all of the other generals were born in canada and he was born in Romania, would that not mean that he was the only? TARTARUS ^talk 02:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Oh, we're looking at Natynczyk, not de Chastelain; my bad. There's the same issue for Natynczyk though; the ref does establish that Natynczyk is not of British or French descent, but does not establish that the others are. So the all of the other generals were of British or French descent part needs a reference. Shubinator (talk) 03:16, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Tengku Alam Shah

• ... that the son of Sultan Ali of Johor, Tengku Alam Shah, inspired the Jementah Civil War in 1879 after he failed to claim inheritance of his father's territory at Kessang?

5X expanded by Mr Tan (talk). Self nom at 08:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Alauddin Alam Shah – Mr Tan (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. I am confused over the name. You are calling Alauddin Alam Shah Tengku Alam in the hook. Is that not confusing? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

"Alauddin" was the regnal name given to Tengku Alam during his proclamation as Sultan (which was ceremonial by nature), while his full name was given as "Alam Shah bin Ali Iskandar Shah", bin denotes "son of" in Islamic cultures. "Tengku" is a title for princes in the Malay world--you may take a look at Malay titles--Ive linked "Tengku" to the article's subheading for convenience sake, as this is a problem very commonly faced by many Western readers who are not familiar with Malay(sian) forms of address. For example, take a look at M'sia's 1st Prime Minister "Tunku Abdul Rahman"; Malaysians, and even the international press called "Abdul Rahman" together with the "Tunku" with it; perhaps try using Google books as a matter of quick check.

As for the matter of the naming confusions, most sources refer to the subject by "Tengku Alam" rather than "Alauddin Alam Shah", which was only a part of his regnal name given to the prince. You can use Google books to verify for the results between these two address modes, if you may be concerned. Mr Tan (talk) 17:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• My only concern is for the reader. I know I was confused, and had difficulty reading the article because the name confusion added to the complication of so many unfamiliar (to me) similar names in the article. The word "Tengku" seems like a name, rather than a title, and I briefly considered clicking on it when I finally realized it was a title, but that would have taken me far afield in an article where I was already confused! Why do you not rename the article, as it should be given the most common name by Wikipedia naming conventions? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Renamed it "Tengku Alam Shah". Im not too sure about these naming conventions whether a title that is commonly used to address a person according to his status is allowed (Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(common_names)), but nevertheless, I did it on consideration that Malaysia's first Prime Minister, was addressed by Tunku Abdul Rahman rather than "Abdul Rahman" (similar example would be Tengku Razaleigh, which I had raised). In the case of Tunku Abdul Rahman, the title "Tunku" is part of a common name used in the press, although it is not his given or actual name, but an honorific title--if you may do a google search, references to the Msia's 1st PM would almost always incorporate the title "Tunku". Thanks! Mr Tan (talk) 07:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You are right about usually titles are not in the name, but perhaps in this case an exception is warranted? —Mattisse (Talk) 16:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Lausanne Hall

• ... that one year after a fire damaged Lausanne Hall (pictured) at Willamette University, the dormitory had to be evacuated due to a suspicious package?

Created/expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Lausanne Hall – Aboutmovies (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Offline newspaper sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Male Restroom Etiquette

• ... that the mockumentary Male Restroom Etiquette is the most viewed Sims video on YouTube?

Created by Rfc1394 (talk), TKD (talk). Nominated by TKD (talk) at 05:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Male Restroom Etiquette – Rfc1394 (give) (tag)
•   Male Restroom Etiquette – TKD (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Whisky Creek Cabin

• ... that the Whisky Creek Cabin (pictured), built about 1880, is the oldest remaining mining cabin along the wild and scenic section of the Rogue River in southwest Oregon?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Whisky Creek Cabin – Orygun (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

ATV Today

• ... that original Who Wants to be a Millionaire? host Chris Tarrant got his start in television as a news reporter for ATV Today?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by HowardBerry (talk) at 01:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   ATV Today – TheRetroGuy (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: HowardBerry (give)

• Article has no inline citations. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Several citations have now been added. Howie ☎ 21:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:43, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Alexander Schapiro, Sascha Schapiro

• ... that there were two unrelated Jewish anarchists named Alexander Schapiro active in Russia during the civil war, one leading a cadre of anarchist bandits and the other in the Bolshevik government?

Created by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Alexander Schapiro – Skomorokh (give) (tag)
•   Sascha Schapiro – Skomorokh (give) (tag)

• alt... that there were two unrelated Jewish anarchists named Alexander Schapiro active in Russia during the civil war, one in the Bolshevik government and the other leading a cadre of anarchist revolutionaries against it? Skomorokh 03:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Debbie Kruger

• ... that Debbie Kruger based her book, Songwriters Speak (2005), on interviews with songwriters for the Australasian Performing Rights Association's 75th anniversary when publicising the 2001 Top 30 Australian songs list?

Created/expanded by Shaidar cuebiyar (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Debbie Kruger – Shaidar cuebiyar (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Is the hook in the article, as I could not find it? —Mattisse (Talk) 00:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Fred Salle

• ... that the long jumper Fred Salle originally represented England in international competitions, then changed allegiance to Cameroon before returning to England some years later?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Fred Salle – Punkmorten (give) (tag)

• Is there a source for his returning to England (other than the undated IAAF profile that has him listed under GBR)? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 21:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• I found it as he won a medal at the 1992 UK Championships, "with entry limited to British Athletes" according to the page. After this point in time he is also listed as a non-foreigner in the AAA Championships, listed as a British competitors in the World Cup, at the British all-time list etc. Punkmorten (talk) 09:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• ALT 1: ... that the English international long jumper Fred Salle also represented Cameroon for parts of his career? Punkmorten (talk) 10:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Verified. I guess it's technically "synthesis" to put two and two together like this, but I think it's simple and obvious enough that it shouldn't be a problem. Either hook is fine with me. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Ronald Holmes

• ... that Sir Ronald Holmes was the acting Colonial Secretary of Hong Kong during the 1967 Leftist Riots?

Created by Clithering (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Ronald Holmes – Clithering (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Having read the article, I cannot say whether the hook is verified. The part that seems to address the issues in the hook do not have a source. In any event, I do not think the hook is interesting or intriguing and that it is too obscure. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that in 1966 when Sir Ronald Holmes was appointed as Secretary for Home Affairs in Hong Kong, the Cultural Revolution had broken out on mainland China and the situation was unstable? ( taken from article sourced by Chinese references accepted in good faith.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Thank you for your comment. The hook has been rephrased.--Clithering (talk) 06:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not that thrilled by either of these hooks. I would prefer to see a hook ab out something Holmes actually did rather than something that was going on anyway. There appears to be plenty of information in the article; do you think you could dig something up? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
• I've made another hook. Is it better this time? Thanks for comment. --Clithering (talk) 11:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• ... that Sir Ronald Holmes, the acting Colonial Secretary, made no compromise with the Communists during the Hong Kong 1967 Leftist Riots?

Hurdia

The Cambrian predator Hurdia

• ... that the Cambrian predator Hurdia (pictured) was thought to be a number of separate organisms for 100 years, until its redescription this week?

Created by Nrkn (talk). Expanded by Spotty11222 (talk · contribs) and Smith609; nominated by Smith609 (talk) at 19:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Hurdia – Nrkn (give) (tag)
•   Hurdia – Spotty11222 (give) (tag)
•   Hurdia – Smith609 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Smith609 (give)

• Length and date verified. Not sure what week "this week" is in hook. There seems to be an incomplete reference in the article —Mattisse (Talk) 19:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's the week containing today. I would have said 'today', but the hook probably won't go live for a couple of days, so 'this week' seemed more appropriate. '2009' lacks the immediacy of 'this week'. Perhaps 'This month' would be a suitable compromise? Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 00:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• It may be next week that it runs as a DYK or even longer. It is unpredictable. Some run right away, but some wait a week or two. If you look at the queue, it goes back to March 12 hooks that are still considered eligible as of today—that is 12 days ago. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then we should be safe with 'this month' - if, when this tag is chosen, it happens to be April, the selecting editor could replace 'this month' with 'last month'. Does that sound okay? Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 15:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that the 500 million year old Cambrian predator Hurdia (pictured) was thought to be a number of separate organisms for 100 years, until 2009 when the complete animal was reconstructed? (sourced statement from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 20:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Arno von Lenski

• ... that Nazi General Arno von Lenski served in the East German National People's Army?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Arno von Lenski – HerkusMonte (give) (tag)

• Length and date of article verified. Offline and German language sources accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt ... that after the foundation of the German Democratic Republic, Nazi General Arno von Lenski was formally acknowledged as a "Victim of Fascism" in 1949? (sourced statement from the article) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• I prefer the alt - it's more hooky. ^Law _shoot! 20:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• The alt sounds good to me, too. HerkusMonte (talk) 07:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Charnockite, St. Thomas Mount

• ... that the Charnockite in St. Thomas Mount, Chennai got its name from Job Charnock, the founder of Kolkata, whose tomb was made of rocks quarried from St. Thomas Mount?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Ravichandar84 (talk) at 15:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Charnockite, St. Thomas Mount – Nvvchar (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Ravichandar84 (give)

White Dog (book)

• ... that Romain Gary's 1970 fictional memoir White Dog, originally released as Chien Blanc, attacks Marlon Brando and Jean Seberg for their activist activities in the 1960s?

5x expanded by User:Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   White Dog (book) – Collectonian (give) (tag)

• alt ... that Romain Gary wrote his autobiographical novel White Dog in both French and English versions, both published in France and the United States, respectively, in 1970? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt2 ... that Romain Gary wrote both French and English versions of his 1970 autobiographical novel White Dog, published in France and the United States, respectively? (Removes the use of "both" twice in the alt hook above.) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt3 ... that Romain Gary wrote both French and English versions of his 1970 fictional memoir White Dog, and made the ending of the American version more optimistic? (sourced info from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Both are good alts, thanks :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (video game)

• ... that filmmakers the Brothers Strause collaborated with video game company Rebellion Developments to create the game tie-in for Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem?

5x expanded by Vantine84 (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (video game) – Vantine84 (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and source for hook verified. However, there is a "merge" tag on the article. Also the hook is promotional. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It is? Do you have any suggestions for making it non-promotional? It wasn't my intention to promote the game or the movie; I just wanted to point out that Hollywood people helped with a video game, which is uncommon. Also, the merge tag has been removed (and not by me). — Levi van Tine (t – c) 07:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you have any statements in the article that it is unusual for Hollywood people to be involved with a video game, and why that might be? —Mattisse (Talk) 00:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

No, unfortunately. — Levi van Tine (t – c) 08:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Factions of Command & Conquer

• ... that the Command & Conquer series has three main factions: The Global Defence Initiative, the Brotherhood of Nod and the Scrin?

5x expanded by Caissa's DeathAngel (talk). Nominated by Cabe6403 (talk) at 13:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Factions of Command & Conquer – Caissa's DeathAngel (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Cabe6403 (give)

• Length and date verified. The hook statement is not sourced in the article (that I could see) plus it is not interesting nor intruiging. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that in the original Command & Conquer series, out of the three main factions, the Scrin possess a significant aerial fleet which they use to invade and harvest the Earth's Tiberium deposits? -- Interesting and intruiging is subjective remember. Others may find something interesting that you don't -- Cabe6403 ^{(Talk•Sign)} 14:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• That hook is interesting/intriguing but I don't see all of the elements of the hook in the article. The reference in that section is good but it is difficult to match what it is saying to what is in the article. The paragraph on the Scrin is very complex. Is the article only describing the "original" series? The section on the Scrin does not mention "original" versus other versions. The article is hard for the general reader (me) to understand. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup

• ... that the semifinal series between the Purefoods TJ Giants and the Tanduay Rhum Masters in the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup was postponed twice after Tanduay got a temporary restraining order when their wins were forfeited?

Created/expanded by User:Howard the Duck. Self nom at 12:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup – [[User:User:Howard the Duck|User:Howard the Duck]] (give) (tag)

• alt: ... that the semifinal series between the Purefoods TJ Giants and the Tanduay Rhum Masters in the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup was the first time a game was postponed other than for a typhoon, earthquake or bomb threat? –Howard the Duck 13:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. I cannot find reference for the first hook. (Can you show it to me?) The second hook is referenced but the hook is 242 characters, a little over the 200 character maximum for the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• The first TRO was on citation #1, the second one is on citation #4. Basically the second was just an extension of the first. –Howard the Duck 14:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

*alt2 ... that the postponement of the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup series between Purefoods TJ Giants and Tanduay Rhum Masters was the first other than for a typhoon, earthquake or bomb threat? (181 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 14:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yes this is better. –Howard the Duck 14:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• This text seems strikingly familiar and I know that I didn't read this article yesterday when it was created nor am I a Filipino basketball enthusiast who would have read this in the sports pages. This needs investigation and explanation before promotion. - Dravecky (talk) 11:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• I guess you were referring to 1999 PBA All-Filipino Cup which was a DYK entry a few weeks ago; I only created this yesterday and used the sources from the Wayback Machine. –Howard the Duck 11:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Wait, I think it was the 2004–05 PBA Philippine Cup article. The 1999 article was "posted" in overnight hours in our place so I wasn't able to see it, if it ever made it to the Main Page. –Howard the Duck 12:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

The Heart of Rock & Roll

• ... that the hit Huey Lewis and the News song, "The Heart of Rock & Roll", was originally written about a concert the band performed in Cleveland, Ohio?

Created by CarpetCrawler (talk). Self nom at 09:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   The Heart of Rock & Roll – CarpetCrawler (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 11:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that Blender magazine called the Huey Lewis and the News hit song "The Heart of Rock & Roll" one of the "50 Worst Songs Ever"? (different info) —Mattisse (Talk) 12:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Oooh, that one is very good! :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 16:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Nidula

• ... that Nidula niveo-tomentosa (pictured), a bird's nest fungus in the genus Nidula, produces a chemical that is a major component of raspberry flavor?

5x expanded by sasata (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Nidula – sasata (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline book source for hook accepted on good faith. Source for first hook is also online. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Source #10 (as of now) seems to be online. ^Law _shoot! 12:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that a species in the genus Nidula produces bioactive compounds, including a major component of raspberry flavor and an insect attractor used in pesticides? (additional info) —Mattisse (Talk) 12:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Craig Sauer

• ... that former American football linebacker Craig Sauer has three brothers who have played professional ice hockey?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Craig Sauer – Rlendog (give) (tag)

• Date, size and ref hook all check out. ^Law _shoot! 10:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Eastern Bloc economies

• ... that communist Eastern Bloc economies relied significantly on central planning that resulted in the rise of the shortage economies?

Created by Mosedschurte (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 19:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Eastern Bloc economies – Mosedschurte (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Piotrus (give)

French submarine Doris

• ... that French submarine Doris was sunk by German submarine U-9 in May 1940, after being ordered to sortie with significant damage, rendering it unable to dive?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   French submarine Doris – Piotrus (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 19

Quan Deyu

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Quan Deyu was said to be able to write poetry at age three?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Quan Deyu – Nlu (give) (tag)

George A. Steel

• ... that George A. Steel (pictured) was elected as Oregon State Treasurer after his company went bankrupt?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   George A. Steel – Aboutmovies (give) (tag)

• Very interesting, got me to click! verified, image has proper license (PD-old). Royalbroil 15:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Cairo International Book Fair

• ... that the Cairo International Book Fair (pictured) is the oldest and largest book fair in the Arab world?

Created/expanded by T L Miles (talk), Dr B2 (talk). Nominated by T L Miles (talk) at 06:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Cairo International Book Fair – T L Miles (give) (tag)
•   Cairo International Book Fair – Dr B2 (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• I put the parentheses back inside the italics for (pictured). J7 isn't my favorite rule but it's standard. Art LaPella (talk) 18:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Drew Blickensderfer

• ... that crew chief Drew Blickensderfer helped driver Matt Kenseth (pictured) become the fifth driver to start a NASCAR season with back-to-back wins?

Created by Royalbroil (talk), Drdisque (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Drew Blickensderfer – Royalbroil (give) (tag)
•   Drew Blickensderfer – Drdisque (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Illinois Centennial Monument

• ... that the Illinois Centennial Monument (pictured) is a marble Doric column built to scale with the columns of the Parthenon?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Illinois Centennial Memorial Column – TonyTheTiger (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. (Most of the references in article contain little if any info on the monument.) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

J. P. Wearing

• ... that the 16-volume series The London Stage by J. P. Wearing has been called "invaluable, thoroughly accurate" and "a proverbial mine of useful information"?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   J. P. Wearing – Ssilvers (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Subscription source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Big East Conference football awards

• ... that the Miami Hurricanes have won 26 Big East Conference football awards even though they belonged to the conference from only 1991 to 2004?

5x expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 17:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Big East Conference football awards – Grsz11 (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Multiple references for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt ... that the Miami Hurricanes won 26 Big East Conference football awards in the 14 years they belonged to the conference (1991–2004)? (rewording of hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau

• ... that the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau, started in 1908, was the first journal of comparative law in the United States?

• ALT1:... that the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau (1908) was the first journal of comparative law in the United States and had foreign correspondents from fourteen countries?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau – The Little Blue Frog (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Could you please explain that "Book source for hook accepted on good faith"? All my sources are online and free, and each claim has a note. — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 16:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• It means that Mattisse didn't check the source itself but is trusting that the information is in there. It's nothing to worry about, the hook is verified. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

American Bar Association Journal

• ... that the American Bar Association Journal is allegedly read every month by half of the 1 million lawyers in the United States?

• ALT1: ... that the venerable American Bar Association Journal reinvented itself in 2007 as a Web 2.0 site featuring analysis from more than 2,000 legal blogs?
• ALT2: ... that the ABA Journal, the monthly magazine of the American Bar Association, emerged in 1915 from an annual bulletin of comparative law?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   American Bar Association Journal – The Little Blue Frog (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith. Note that the journal "claims" it is read by half of the 1 million lawyers. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• About "claims", it looked derogatory once phrased as a DYK: "DYK that the ABAJ claims it's read by half a million lawyers?" sounded to me like pointing only at their claiming it, as if that was somehow false or preposterous. But you gave me an idea, I'm updating it to "DYK that the ABAJ is +allegedly+ read...": the use of lawspeak should at least sound funny.
• Could you please explain the "Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith"? All my sources are online and free, and each claim has a note. — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 16:33, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry. I see that they are online. The way you have the footnotes for the reference sources formatted, they look like offline sources. Usually websites are not formatted in the same way as offline sources. I just assumed they were either printed material or not accessible. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not sure that online sources are supposed to look different (beyond having a dim blue link): the output of the official {{cite web}} and {{cite book}} is the same, and I more or less mimic them by hand. (Of course I count as "online sources" even books or magazine articles when we can link to a free copy of their full text on Gutenberg or Google Book or NYTimes.com or such.)
• Also, I don't put my main online sources directly in the notes but instead an author-date cite, so as to keep all my main sources (online or offline) grouped together in the sources section: one can often get an idea of the sourcing or coverage of an article by having a first look at the sources listed into its References/Sources/Bibliography section. I couldn't get that result if half my main sources were scattered into the blizzard of notes and cites.
• Anyway, is there something I could do to improve the design of sources and cites, without changing my grouping the main sources in a single section? — The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 21:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

George Hedges

• ... that George Hedges, a lawyer who represented Hollywood stars and studios, was part of an archaeological team that discovered the remains of the ancient frankincense trading city of Ubar?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   George Hedges – Alansohn (give) (tag)

• ·Length, date and source for hook verified. (Hook is 200 characters.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Adams and Eve

• ... that the 1957–1958 CBS sitcom Mr. Adams and Eve featured Howard Duff and Ida Lupino, then married to each other in real life, as a fictitious husband/wife acting duo living in Beverly Hills?

ALT:... that most filmed copy of the CBS sitcom Mr. Adams and Eve was destroyed or lost in storage because of a contract dispute when the series was cancelled in 1958?

New artice by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Mr. Adams and Eve – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. First hook source verified by assuming good faith for book source. Second hook questionable as the source given: http://www.tv.com/mr.-adams-and-eve/teen-age-idol/episode/86956/summary.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=episodessh&tag=episodes;title is a source any registered user over 13 can edit. Note that first hook can also be verified by http://www.tvparty.com/vaultadams.html, although it is not listed as a source for that hook in article. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The DuPont Show with June Allyson

• ... that in 1960 the CBS anthology series The DuPont Show with June Allyson featured Harpo Marx in the role of a deaf mute who witnesses a gangland murder?

ALT:... that the 1959–1961 CBS anthology series The DuPont Show with June Allyson featured guest stars Harpo Marx, Ginger Rogers, Bette Davis, and Ronald Reagan as well as multiple roles by hostess June Allyson?

New artice by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   The DuPont Show with June Allyson – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

Festning Tunnel, Rådhusplassen

• • ... that the building of the Festning Tunnel made it possible to turn Rådhusplassen, Oslo, (pictured) into a car-free square?

Created/expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Festning Tunnel – Arsenikk (give) (tag)
•   Rådhusplassen – Arsenikk (give) (tag)

• Length and date for both articles verified. Hook from online source in Norweigian taken on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Picture is missing author and source info. Shubinator (talk) 23:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Dorothea Holt Redmond

• ... that when Dorothea Holt Redmond was hired in 1938 in the "heretofore exclusively male field" of film production design, male co-workers demanded that she work in a walled-off area separated from them?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Dorothea Holt Redmond – Alansohn (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Hunga Tonga

• ... that a submarine eruption near the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai volcano in Tonga began spewing steam, smoke, pumice, and ash thousands of feet into the sky above the ocean on March 16, 2009?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Hunga Tonga – Tim1965 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Not sure that the hook has correct date, as source article indicates the erruption was Thursday, that is, March 19, 2009. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• Link to Smithsonian site[2] (cited in the article, and which is more accurate than mass media reports) says either March 16 or 17, but reported on March 17. AP article (dated March 19) cited at the bottom of the article says volcano "has been erupting for days". I went with the more reputable citation for eruption date (although you can flip a coin as to March 16 or March 17). - Tim1965 (talk) 00:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Accept this justification for date on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• I clarified the date of eruption issue in a footnote, now, too, with sources. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Le Journal de Mickey

• ... that Le Journal de Mickey, a French comics magazine first published in 1934, is credited with "the birth of the modern bande dessinée"?

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Le Journal de Mickey – Fram (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Vika Line

• • ... that when the Vika Line opened in 1995, it was the first new street line of the Oslo Tramway since 1939?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Vika Line – Arsenikk (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline sources in Norwegian accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Korean Air Lines Flight 85

• ... that after the September 11 attacks Korean Air Lines Flight 85 be shot down by American F-15 military jets?

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Only 1471 characters when a minimun of 1500 characters is required. Can you expand it a little more? —Mattisse (Talk) 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK I've expanded the article. -- Esemono (talk) 00:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• I don't know what you did, but now the article is only 1127 characters. Remember, anything in a list or a blockquote does not count. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Really no lists? Anyway I hope the most recent changes will bump up the character cound. -- Esemono (talk) 02:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Really no lists; see C1. But it's now 3399 characters counted our way. Art LaPella (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date of article verified. However the hook is misleading. The source for the hook says

The CBC interview, part of a documentary that traced the actions of senior government officials that fateful day, revealed that the Prime Minister had essentially authorized U.S. fighter jets to shoot down a Korean airliner over Canada if it diverted from a planned emergency landing in Whitehorse.

While still over Alaska, the pilot of the Korean Airlines 747 had erroneously sent coded signals indicating the airliner had been hijacked. The pilot was ordered to land in Whitehorse, and was met by U.S. jet fighters while still over American territory.

NORAD command in Winnipeg agreed the airliner could enter Canadian airspace accompanied by the U.S. fighters, but insisted the decision to shoot it down must be the Canadian government's.

There is a big if in the source. It does not say that the Canadian Prime Minister, Jean Chrétien, authorized that ... —Mattisse (Talk) 19:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, but removing the entire phrase makes the hook meaningless. Did you mean Flight 85 "was authorized to be shot down ..."? Art LaPella (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt: ... that after the September 11 attacks, Korean Air Lines Flight 85 accidentally sent out a hijack signal? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt 2: ... that the decision to shoot down Korean Air Lines Flight 85 when it accidentally sent out a hijack signal after the September 11 attacks rested with the Canadian Prime Minister? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
• Both of the new alt hooks are fine and verified by the sources. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Sunfish Pond

• ... that Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas mentioned the National Natural Landmarked Sunfish Pond (pictured) in his dissenting opinion in the Sierra Club v. Morton case?

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Sunfish Pond – Dmadeo (give) (tag)

• Length, date, and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 11:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Henryk Rzewuski

• ... that Polish writer Henryk Rzewuski (pictured) fought for Poland's independence in 1809 but later collaborated with the Russian Imperial Viceroy of the Kingdom of Poland, Ivan Paskevich?

Self-nom by Nihil novi (talk) 06:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith. (It would be better if each sentence referring to hook had a citation, but will accept good faith of editor on this issue in this case.) —Mattisse (Talk) 11:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I've provided an additional citation. Thanks for the suggestion. Nihil novi (talk) 07:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Sarojini Varadappan

• ... that Indian social worker and 2009 Padma Bhushan awardee, Sarojini Varadappan is a daughter of former Chief Minister of Madras, M. Bhaktavatsalam?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Sarojini Varadappan – Ravichandar84 (give) (tag)

• Length, Hook and Refs check out. dm (talk) 08:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

John Phillimore

• ... that when only given enough money to paint half his ship, John Phillimore protested by asking the Navy Board which half they wished him to paint?

• ALT1:... that John Phillimore once thrashed naval historian William James with a stick for a perceived slight in James's Naval History?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   John Phillimore – Benea (give) (tag)

• • Date and length fine. AGF on offline sources. Both hooks are fine, however I find the ALT pretty funny. ^Law _shoot! 07:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Warren Tolman

• ... that politician Warren Tolman ran a campaign for governor of Massachusetts while suing to implement the state's Clean Elections law?

Created by Chick Bowen (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Warren Tolman – Chick Bowen (give) (tag)

• Size, date, and hook ref all check out. ^Law _shoot! 01:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 18

Zombia

• ... that one ethnographic source suggest that the Zombie palm, Zombia antillarum (pictured), a native of the island of Hispaniola, can be used to awaken zombies or protect against their spying?

5x expanded by Guettarda (talk). Self nom at 05:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Zombia – Guettarda (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Source for hook http://www.bioone.org/archive/0013-0001/58/2/pdf/i0013-0001-58-2-179.pdf goes to "page not found". —Mattisse (Talk) 19:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• That's what you get for working off of a downloaded copy. Updated ref. Guettarda (talk) 19:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Mount Triumph

• ... that Mount Triumph (pictured) in North Cascades National Park has been called one of its "outstanding sights" due to its dramatic local relief?

• alt1 ... that Mount Triumph (pictured) in North Cascades National Park is well-known among regional climbers for its lack of easy climbing routes?
• alt2 ... that Mount Triumph (pictured) in North Cascades National Park is "a rock thumb with near-vertical to overhanging faces on three sides"?
• alt3 ... that Mount Triumph (pictured) in North Cascades National Park has three nearly vertical to overhanging faces and no easy climbing routes?

Created by Themaeeandhisfriend (talk). Nominated by Wsiegmund (talk) at 17:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Mount Triumph – Themaeeandhisfriend (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Wsiegmund (give)

• Length, date and source for alt hook verified. First hook is POV, that is, it is a subjective opinion. Also, I did not see a source for it. One of the sources said it was difficult to climb because it had multiple overhanging faces. You could add that to the article and to the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:17, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• I added another hook with source. However, the source for first hook is cited in the article. Beckey uses the words, "one of the outstanding sights" and "great local relief". I changed the wording a bit to make this more clear. Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 21:00, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Genius (TV series)

• ... that the idea of a two hooded coat to keep your date dry in the rain is genius?

5x expanded by ISD (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Genius (TV series) – ISD (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. However, the hook is not sourced in the article. Also, none of the article you reference mentioned this particular "genius" idea, although others are mentioned. Maybe you could change the hook to an idea that has a reference source if you do not have one for this idea. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• I've added references and changed the article a bit so that it suits the hook more. ISD (talk) 19:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

St. Augustine Gospels

• ... that the 6th century St. Augustine Gospels is the oldest surviving illustrated Latin Gospel book, but is still regularly used?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   St. Augustine Gospels – Johnbod (give) (tag)

• Size, date and image fine. AGF on offline hook. Would prefer an inline citation for latter half of the hook sentence. ^Law _shoot! 20:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Added. Johnbod (talk) 04:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Sultan Ali of Johor

• ... that Sultan Ali of Johor signed a treaty on 10 March 1855 with the Temenggong which formally ceded his sovereignty claims over Johor?

5X expanded by Mr Tan (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Sultan Ali of Johor – Mr Tan (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline source for hook accepted in good faith. It would be good if you could wikilink, or otherwise explain, "Temenggong". —Mattisse (Talk) 00:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

V. Kanakasabhai

• ... that Indian historian V. Kanakasabhai, who was the first to attempt a systematic chronology of Tamils, was of Sri Lankan Tamil ancestry?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   V. Kanakasabhai – Ravichandar84 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. That he was the first to attemp a systematic history is verified. However, that he was of Tamil ancestry is not. (Please show me where, if I am wrong.) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• This link clearly shows that he was a Tamil Vellalar from Jaffna. Thanks-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 15:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:24, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Kathleen Gough

• ... that British anthropologist Kathleen Gough and her husband were believed to be on the FBI's watchlist due to their alleged Marxist leanings?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Kathleen Gough – Ravichandar84 (give) (tag)

Iced Earth discography

• ... that heavy metal band Iced Earth reached the Billboard 200 chart for the first time, only fourteen years after the release of their debut album?

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Iced Earth discography – Cannibaloki (give) (tag)

• - Is the hook meant to be sarcastic? Because fourteen years is a rather long time. FingersOnRoids♫ 21:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Ehhh, no. Do you have any suggestions to improve? Cannibaloki 22:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that heavy metal band Iced Earth reached the Billboard 200 chart for the first time, fourteen years after the release of their debut album? (Removed "only" as that word made the hook seem sarcastic.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. German language sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• ALT 2: ... that, fourteen years after the release of their debut album, heavy metal band Iced Earth charted on the Billboard 200 for the first time? MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment - I think Alt 2 puts it best. FingersOnRoids♫ 00:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• In the hook, should we link "debut album" to Iced Earth (album)? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Skip Young (actor)

• ... that Skip Young (1930–1993), who played humorous Wally Plumstead on the ABC sitcom The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet was actually named Ronald Plumstead?

ALT:... that Skip Young, who played humorous Wally Plumstead on ABC's The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, was a Korean War Navy veteran interred at Riverside National Cemetery?

New artice by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Skip Young (actor) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. First hook is not correctly referrenced as the IMBD page does not mention his original name. The second hook is referrenced by http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9704 which I don't think is considered a reliable source for this information. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner

• ... that the PSP video game Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner uses the PSP's internal clock to continually train the player's monsters, even when the console is not in use?

Created by Vantine84 (talk). Self nom at 07:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner – Vantine84 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Source for hook is not clearly verified. The source says, "The monster training system follows the PSP's internal clock, as a monster that you've trained in the morning shows the fruits of your labor at night." I do not understand from this that the player's monsters continual to be trained when the console is not in use. Does the source sentence have the same meaning as your hook? —Mattisse (Talk) 12:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Yep, they mean the same thing. Players can upgrade monsters normally, or they can allow the game to do it automatically by letting the console sit, because the game's code follows the PSP's battery-operated clock to track changes to monsters. Reference #7 may make it more clear; the 1UP preview says "...the fusion system takes place in real world time, so often fusions will take six to 10 hours to complete, encouraging players to stop playing and come back the next day when the fusion is done. Luckily, changing the PSP system date to six or 10 hours later is a good workaround that we're sure many players will be using." This also suggests that because anyone can simply change a PSP's clock settings at any time, players can cheat the game by "moving time forward". — Levi van Tine (t – c) 07:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. Length, date and source for hook verified. (I did not realize that PSP referred to PlayStation Portable.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Magnificent (U2 song)

• ... that the U2 song "Magnificent" was originally titled "French Disco"?

Created by Y2kcrazyjoker (talk), MelicansMatkin (talk). Self nom at 05:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Magnificent (U2 song) – Y2kcrazyjoker (give) (tag)
•   Magnificent (U2 song) – MelicansMatkin (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Source for hook is not verified. The reference given makes no mention of the song's original title. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Apologies; it looks like the wrong citation was used by accident. I've replaced it with the correct one. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Hook source verified, along with length and date. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Scribner House (Cornwall, New York)

• ... that Charles Scribner II's country house (pictured) in Cornwall, New York, combined a Shingle Style exterior with a Colonial Revival interior? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Scribner House (Cornwall, New York) – Daniel Case (give) (tag)

• Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1ee^talk 05:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Hai Ying Wu

• ... that Chinese American sculptor Hai Ying Wu's work includes the Fallen Fire Fighters Memorial in Seattle and the Auto-Lite Strike Memorial in Toledo?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Hai Ying Wu – Tim1965 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Off line sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Osbjorn Bulax

• ... that, according to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, in 1054 the eldest son of Earl Siward of Northumbria, Osbjorn, died in battle against King Macbeth of Scotland?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Osbjorn Bulax – Deacon of Pndapetzim (give) (tag)

• I'm counting 1487 worth of readable prose. ^Law _shoot! 01:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• How's that? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Good! Size and date fine. I have to AGF on the Scottish(?) hook ref, however. ^Law _shoot! 02:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Well, anyone with access to the ODNB can verify (see article). Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 02:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• What percentage of Wikipedia's readers is that? —Mattisse (Talk) 22:34, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Davis v. Beason

• ... that in 1890, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Davis v. Beason that it was acceptable to prohibit religious polygamists from voting, despite the country's freedom of religion?

Created by Tempshill (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Davis v. Beason – Tempshill (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. I think the hook misrepresents the decision just a little, in that the court upheld a lower court ruling that an Idaho statute charging the defendant with a crime because he refused to take an oath as prescribed by an Idaho statute, that he would not commit polygamy or bigamy, did not violate his right to Free Exercise of his religion as a member of the Mormon Church. The Supreme court ruled this statute did not violate the defendant's First Amendment rights. Is your wording is good enough? —Mattisse (Talk) 13:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I think the wording is accurate and correctly represents the decision. It could be a little more precise to say "... that it was acceptable for States or Territories to prohibit religious polygamists from voting...". Or is your problem with the phrase "religious polygamists"? Do you have a preferred wording? Tempshill (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I was hung up on the "oath" part, that he refused to take an oath regarding his religious behavior, but the hook is probably ok. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Tianyulong

• ... that the discovery of feather-like structures on the primitive dinosaur Tianyulong (pictured) raises the possibility that ancestral dinosaurs were feathered?

Created by Crazyharp81602 (talk). Nominated by ArthurWeasley (talk) at 22:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Tianyulong – Crazyharp81602 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: ArthurWeasley (give)

• Length and date verified. Hook is not in article. Do feathers make an animal fuzzy? —Mattisse (Talk) 22:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The proto-feathers were filamentous hair-like structures so an animal covered with them will indeed look fuzzy. I can either modify the hook or write a sentence on fuzziness in the article, whichever you prefer. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Modified the hook. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

You should clarify things in the article regardless. We can't expect an average reader to know what proto-feathers are and whether or not they were fuzzy. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Done! The term "Fuzzy" is not very encyclopedic that's why it is not used in the article but it was used in the press release provided in the external link section. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean "also feathered" in the hook? If you took the "also" out, I think it would improve the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Good point! Removed "also" in the hook. ArthurWeasley (talk) 03:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I took the liberty to add a picture. ArthurWeasley (talk) 05:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Batavier Line, SS Batavier II (1897), SS Batavier V (1902)

• ... that the Batavier Line, a Rotterdam–London packet service, had two ships, Batavier II and Batavier V, seized as prizes by German U-boats during World War I?

• ALT1:... that Batavier II and Batavier V, two of the five-ship fleet of the Batavier Line, were sunk by submarines in World War I?

Created by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Batavier Line – Bellhalla (give) (tag)
•   SS Batavier II (1897) – Bellhalla (give) (tag)
•   SS Batavier V (1902) – Bellhalla (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified for all three articles. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:39, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• I was trying to figure out how they were captured and sunk by submarines, something which I think the hook should convey. dm (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• ALT2 ... that the Batavier II and Batavier V, part of the Dutch Batavier Line, were captured by German U-boats during World War I and later sunk by a British submarine and a German minelayer submarine respectively? dm (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not sure we necessarily need to explain everything in the hook, but the ALT works for me if that's what others think. It is, however, over 200 characters… — Bellhalla (talk) 14:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Your ALT2 hook is 287 characters. The hook cannot be over 200 characters. Could you reword your ALT2? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• ALT3 ... that the Batavier II and Batavier V, of the Dutch Batavier Line, were captured, released, and later sunk by four different submarines? How about that? dm (talk) 02:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Well, technically, they weren't released by submarines, but it's close enough. — Bellhalla (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

János Apáczai Csere

• ... that the first textbook in the Hungarian language, an encyclopedia by János Apáczai Csere, was written and published in The Netherlands?

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   János Apáczai Csere – David Eppstein (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

HMS Archer (D78)

• ... that a Fairey Swordfish from HMS Archer (pictured) was the first aircraft ever to land on Ascension Island?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   HMS Archer (D78) – Mjroots (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

List of Silver Slugger Award winners at first base

• ... that Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder are the only father-son combination to win a Silver Slugger Award at first base?

Created/expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   List of Silver Slugger Award winners at first base – Killervogel5 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Sources verified that both father and son were winners in that category. But I am not clear that the sources show that they were the "only" father-son combination. Could you point out where that is sourced, as I am missing it? —Mattisse (Talk) 20:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Well, I could link to each player's statistics at Baseball-Reference, which shows parentage, but that would be a very large amount of refs. I know that the List of second-generation Major League Baseball players verifies it, but it's a Wikipedia page. [3] and [4] are lists of players, and though they don't specifically state this fact, checking them against the Wikipedia list will show that no other set won the award as first basemen. I am not sure what exactly would be required here. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• [5] will show that he and his father both won the award and in what year, but also doesn't say that they were the only pair at first base. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• If these issues make this a problem, may I suggest...

Alt1: ... that father and son combination Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base? KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Alt2: ... that both father and son, Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder, each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base? (clearer grammar) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I don't agree that this grammar is clearer. If an alt is to be used, I prefer 1 or 3. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 12:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Alt3: ... that the father and son combination Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base?

• Alts are verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Crucibulum laeve

• ... that the white bird's nest mushroom Crucibulum laeve (pictured) produces a chemical that inhibits an enzyme implicated in the formation of cataracts in individuals with diabetes mellitus?

Created/expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Crucibulum laeve – Sasata (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Subscription web source accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Joel Hopkins

• ... that writer-director Joel Hopkins made Last Chance Harvey to recreate the chemistry he had seen between actors Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman in a theatre production?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Joel Hopkins – 97198 (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Lucy Stone

• ... that Lucy Stone was pestered by rude comments from men and boys in the street during the year and a half she chose to wear fashion bloomers?

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Lucy Stone – Binksternet (give) (tag)

• The prose has only been expanded 2.7x in the last 5 days. --Bruce1ee^talk 13:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Washbrook

• ... that child actor Johnny Washbrook, though educated at two London art academies, spent his later adult years as a banker in Massachusetts?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Johnny Washbrook – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Length, date and sources for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Edward Brickell White

• ... that architect Edward Brickell White (b. 1806) contributed designs for buildings for five National Historic Landmarks and three on the National Register of Historic Places in South Carolina?

5x expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Edward Brickell White – KudzuVine (give) (tag)

• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Hook is not stated clearly in article and it is difficult to verify without reading 10 PDF documents and compiling the info. Could the nominator please put the hook in the article and reference it? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• I rethought this also, and decided to accept your hook references on good faith. Looking through the info, I can see that he indeed was a noted architect with many such buildings to his credit. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• I realize that this might be a problem. I can't find any place to reference except in the documents or the WP page List of National Historic Landmarks in South Carolina, which is not an independent source. It was worth a try. Cheers KudzuVine (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Rethought this. I could rewrite because the South Carolina Encyclopedia (reference 1) lists everything but the Daniel Morgan Monument. It does not specifically say that Grace Church and Charleston High are in Charleston Historic District and does not say that any are NHL/NRHP. And it is not online. I will also think about an alternate hook, but have not yet thought of one.KudzuVine (talk) 21:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that Edward Brickell White (b. 1806) was known for his Gothic Revival architecture, including the Market Hall, a National Historic Landmark, and Trinity Episcopal Church on the National Register of Historic Places? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• This alt hook is referenced. Feel free to add another. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• This one really doesn't work because Market Hall is a Greek Revival (I am not an architect and you could fool me!) I changed the article to put in the Huguenot Church picture because it is said to be Gothic Revival. I would stick with the original hook. KudzuVine (talk) 19:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Slaven's Cabin

• ... that Slaven's Cabin, a National Historic Site on the Yukon River in Alaska, is a rest area for the 1,000-mile Yukon Quest sled dog race?

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Slaven's Cabin – JKBrooks85 (give) (tag)

• This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know. Please see C1 for details. Art LaPella (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry about that; keep forgetting the difference between the history in bytes and the character count. JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Martin Knowlton

• ... that Martin Knowlton conceived the Elderhostel concept, in which senior citizens take college-level courses in the summer, to overcome "the disturbing concept that people are all used up after age 65"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Martin Knowlton – Alansohn (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Paid access news article accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Jason Lau

• ... that Jason Lau is a Wing Chun Kung Fu Grandmaster who was an instructor in Mitchell Werbell III's counter-terrorist training camp?

Created by User:Pecoc (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Jason Lau – Pecoc (give) (tag)

• I don't believe this individual meets our notability requirements, and am going to have to put this article up for AfD. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
• AfD opened: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Lau. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• I have withdrawn the AfD. The article is still not ready for DYK yet, though, as it provides no context for the reader to know what it's talking about. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Adolf Pilch

• ... that Adolf Pilch, Polish resistance fighter trained by SOE during WWII, fought against both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Adolf Pilch – Piotrus (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 17

Stephanie Novacek

• ... that mezzo-soprano Stephanie Novacek created roles in the premieres of two important operas, the role of Maria Callas in Daugherty's Jackie O and the role of heroine Jo March in Adamo's Little Women?

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 10:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Stephanie Novacek – nrswanson (give) (tag)

Banksia lindleyana

• ... that Banksia lindleyana (pictured) goes by the common name of 'Porcupine Banksia'?

Created/expanded by Hesperian (talk), casliber (talk). Self nom at 05:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Banksia lindleyana – Hesperian (give) (tag)
•   Banksia lindleyana – casliber (give) (tag)

• Note >5x expansion from 36 to 956 words :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• (checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, image good. Reference is a book; I verified with this. Shubinator (talk) 05:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Database Console Commands (Transact-SQL)

• ... that the Database Console Commands are a set of Transact-SQL statements used to check the consistency of a Microsoft SQL Server database?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Database Console Commands (Transact-SQL) – Ravichandar84 (give) (tag)

• 382 characters of prose. Most of it is a list of commands. Please expand. Shubinator (talk) 02:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• I've converted it to textual format. It now has well over 1,500 characters of prose I guess-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 14:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• It's still essentially a list of commands, and now most of the sections have just one or two sentences. Shubinator (talk) 15:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• So what should I do in this case-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 17:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Maybe you can add more information on pros and cons of DBCC. These sites might help. Shubinator (talk) 18:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, I did come across that first link during a search. But I thought it was unreliable. I'll expand right away. Thanks a lot.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 01:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
• Expanded article a fair deal based on suggestion.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 17:22, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

History of the Oslo Tramway and T-bane, Homansbyen (station)

• • ... that the history of the Oslo Tramway started with the construction of a horsecar line to Homansbyen in 1875?

Created/expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 14:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   History of the Oslo Tramway and T-bane – Arsenikk (give) (tag)
•   Homansbyen (station) – Arsenikk (give) (tag)

• Both articles are verified as to length and date. However, I am having difficulty seeing the relationship between the two articles reflected in the article text of either one. Perhaps you could point it out to me. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Fowler

• ... that Trooper Patrick Fowler spent most of World War One hiding in a wardrobe in German-occupied France?

Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 08:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Patrick Fowler – ISD (give) (tag)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Sandomierz Voivodeship (1939)

• ... that Sandomierz Voivodeship (1939), was a proposed administrative unit of the Second Polish Republic, which was never created because of the Nazi and Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939? self nom by Tymek (talk) 19:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment. This article is mostly based on Polish-language sources, as I have not found anything in English on this topic. Tymek (talk) 19:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. However, the statement in the article "which was never created because of the Nazi and Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939" is not referenced in the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Does it have to be referenced? All sources claim that Polish government was very determined to create this voivodeship. The only reason it was not created was the war, nothing else. Tymek (talk) 02:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Li Fan (Tang Dynasty)

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Li Fan sought to dissuade Emperor Xianzong from seeking immortality by citing the failed examples of Qin Shi Huang, Emperor Wu of Han, and Emperor Taizong of Tang?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: This is a new article that displaced a redirect.Nlu (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Li Fan – Nlu (give) (tag)

• Kubek15 (talk · contribs) has moved the article to Li Fan (Tang Dynasty). --Nlu (talk) 00:47, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Fountain of the Great Lakes

• ... that Fountain of the Great Lakes, which has three semi-nude figures, was dedicated three months after Chicago Mayor Carter Harrison changed the obscenity laws as they related to public art?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Fountain of the Great Lakes – TonyTheTiger (give) (tag)

• alt ... that because of three semi-nude figures in the Fountain of the Great Lakes, Chicago changed its obscenity laws for public art in 1913 in order to dedicate it? (reworded original hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Since you can't see the source, it would be impossible for you to know this interpretation is incorrect. The laws were changed due to the furor over a public painting, I believe.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that the Fountain of the Great Lakes, with three semi-nude figures, was not dedicated until after Chicago changed its obscenity laws for public art in 1913? (reworded original hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• I reworded it. Is that OK?

• Yes.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that Chicago's Fountain of the Great Lakes is composed of five female figures arranged so that water flows through them in the same pattern as it does through the five Great Lakes? (difference angle on the fountain) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
• Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline book source for hook accepted on good faith. (Interesting article.) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Red Gap, British Columbia

• ... that the Straits Lumber mill at the ghost town of Red Gap, British Columbia was the largest in the Pacific Northwest for three years in the 1930s?

Created by KenWalker (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Red Gap, British Columbia – KenWalker (give) (tag)

• alt ... that for three years in the 1930s, the Straits Lumber mill in Red Gap, British Columbia (now a ghost town) was the largest in the Pacific Northwest? (reworded a little) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• for whatever it may be worth, I think the alt version is an improvment -KenWalker | Talk 05:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Book source offline for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Camperdown Cemetery

• ... that the jilted bride Eliza Emily Donnithorne, who is buried in Camperdown Cemetery, may have been the model for Charles Dickens' reclusive Miss Havisham?

5x expanded by Amandajm (talk). Self nom, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Camperdown Cemetery – Amandajm (give) (tag)

• Although the DYK checker says this article has not been expanded in the last 10 days, It has been expanded 5x starting March 14. However, the hook source http://www.myfidnet.com/ is not valid. Large parts of the article are not sourced. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• The problem with the link has been repaired. This is now a quite a long article and not all the refs are in place. Requires time. It's currently going for a DYK, not an FA. Amandajm (talk) 05:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Refs are important way below FA level as well... Punkmorten (talk) 08:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Response I'm getting there. being now a longish article, it takes time to write and reference. The time frame for completing and referencing is indefinite. Having considerably expanded it, the time frame for putting it up for DYK is considerably shorter. That is the point that I am making here. Amandajm (talk) 08:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I have some refs somewhere or other on my bookshelf as well, but there is alot going on all over the 'pedia currently. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• The new link verifies the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

My Friend Flicka (TV series)

• ... that the western TV series My Friend Flicka in the 1956 episode "Rough Rider" depicts Theodore Roosevelt (played by Frank Albertson) trying to halt a range war?

ALT... that the CBS western TV series My Friend Flicka produced only 39 episodes but aired for years on numerous networks in reruns?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   My Friend Flicka (TV series) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Length, date and first hook verified, although the site is a little strange as only some things are "verified" on it . Could not verify second hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Chilkat weaving

• ... that Tsimshian, Tlingit, and Haida tribes traditionally create ceremonial regalia with Chilkat weaving, a technique so complex that a single blanket might take a year to weave?

Created by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Chilkat weaving – Uyvsdi (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Off line book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
• Hook is 231 characters. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that Chilkat weaving, a traditional technique of indigenous peoples of Alaska and British Columbia, is so complex that it may take a year to weave a blanket? (157 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
• alt2 ... that Chilkat weaving, a traditional technique of the Tsimshian, Tlingit, and Haida tribes of of Alaska and British Columbia, is so complex that it may take a year to weave a blanket? (182 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the length. Do I resubmit it or do you just chose from either suggested, alternative hooks? Both seem quite good and concise. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi

• You don't need to resubmit, we'll just choose a good hook from here. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
• ALT1 is the best, I think. Let's go with that. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• - Length, date, source, hook all check out. I agree, alt 1 is better for a more general audience. FingersOnRoids♫ 21:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

BlogShares

• ... that after realizing the blogosphere was similar to a stock market, Seyed Razavi created BlogShares to allow people to buy shares of blogs with virtual currency?

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   BlogShares – Gary King (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Off line newspaper source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Harvard Girl

• ... that the 2000 book Harvard Girl made Chinese college student Liu Yiting a "national superstar" in mainland China?

• ALT1:... that in the first eight years after Harvard Girl was published in mainland China, the number of Chinese applicants to Harvard increased tenfold?

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Harvard Girl – Rjanag (give) (tag)

• Verified article length and that article moved from user space on March 17. However, re Hook1 the reference does not say that Liu Yiting became a national superstar in China. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/12/31/in_china_ivy_league_dreams_weigh_heavily_on_students/ Re Hook2, article says "The book also had an impact on admissions for Harvard. It made Harvard a household name in China, and books of this genre caused a significant increase in the number of Chinese applicants to top American universities.[1] In 1999, when Liu applied to Harvard, a total of 44 Chinese students applied there; in 2008, 484 did." Therefore, hook2 is not in article. Please show me if I am wrong. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• The particular wording "national superstar" is on page 2 of the Boston Globe ref (so if you did a page search just on the first page, you wouldn't have found it). The other refs don't use that exact phrase, but all say pretty much the same thing. As for hook2, I was just considering it simple math; I figured "tenfold" is catchier and hookier than giving the exact numbers. If it's a problem, I can reword the article itself to say tenfold rather than repeating the exact numbers; either way is fine with me. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• The way 'national superstar' is used in the article is not an assertion the reference is making. It is a quote from an apparent interview of a Liu-counterpart. Not sure if that helps. ^Law _shoot! 04:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, but they're quoting a guy saying something that is widely known and accepted; it's not like he's trying to puff her up more or anything, he's just stating what is common knowledge over there. For more similar refs that are not quotes from people: "household name" (Harvard Crimson), "huge celebrity" (New York Times), "celebrity status" (Harvard Magazine). The claim this hook is making is not a controversial one, and I can easily switch out "national superstar" for one of these equivalent counterparts from a different source. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
• Also, if you read through the article, you can see that, while the exact phrase "national superstar" might be a quote from a person rather than from the article writer, the article itself is also making the same assertion, just in different words. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• OK. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

USCGC Citrus (WLB-300)

• ... that the USCGC Citrus (pictured) was rammed by the marijuana-smuggling ship MV Pacific Star, which was scuttled by its crew?

• ALT1:... that after 51 years in the US Coast Guard, the USCGC Citrus is the armed Almirante Juan Alejandro Acosta in the Dominican Navy?

Created/expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   USCGC Citrus (WLB-300) – KudzuVine (give) (tag)

• Both hooks verified, I prefer the first. Gatoclass (talk) 23:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'd suggest adding "ship" between smuggling and MV. JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I put "ship" in. KudzuVine (talk) 15:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Against All Odds (2005)

• ... that at Against All Odds (2005) Jeff Jarrett was not allowed to use a guitar as a weapon, so he used a cello instead?

Created/expanded by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Against All Odds (2005) – Wrestlinglover (give) (tag)

• alt ... that at Against All Odds (2005), professional wrestler Jeff Jarrett was not allowed to use his trademark guitar as a weapon, so he used a cello instead? (a little more context) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright, doesn't bother me any. I forgot to be more out of universe.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 20:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 16

St Bernard's Hospital

• ... that St Bernard's Hospital (pictured), founded in 1567, is the only civilian general hospital in the British overseas territory of Gibraltar?

Created/expanded by Gibnews (talk). Nominated by Gibmetal77 (talk) at 22:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

•   St Bernard's Hospital – Gibnews (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Gibmetal77 (give)

• The picture provided for the nom is not in the article. This picture is in the article, clearly shows the hospital, and is much prettier in my opinion. Shubinator (talk) 23:10, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the comment. I chose the picture above as I was planning on changing it just after. Please feel free to change it if you so wish, either one is acceptable. Thanks, --Gibmetal 77^talk 11:04, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Switched. Shubinator (talk) 16:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length, date, and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Pei Ji (Late Tang)

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji reassessed the formula for cash-goods conversion to reduce the tax burden on the people?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Pei Ji (Late Tang) – Nlu (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Hook is questionable since it references a book Zizhi Tongjian "published in 1084, under the form of a chronicles". —Mattisse (Talk) 21:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
• Would this alt hook do?

• alt ... that according to the Zizhi Tongjian, the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji lowered the assessed value of taxable goods to reduce the tax burden on the people? —Mattisse (Talk) 21:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• The obscure phrase "reassessed the formula for cash-goods conversion" turns out to mean "reassessed the value of goods used to pay taxes", so I suggest substituting that phrase. Art LaPella (talk) 02:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• Rewrote alt, hopefully OK. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• No, the article doesn't say "taxable goods". It says "Further, if the people were to submit the products of labor to satisfy their taxes, the conversion formulas into cash were still the ones set early in Emperor Dezong's reign, when those goods cost less in terms of monetary value; therefore, by the time that Pei was chancellor, the burdens of the people were inappropriately high." So it was a primitive barter economy where farmers were likely to pay tax in the form of rice (or whatever they had) because they had no money. The goods were payment for the tax; the goods weren't taxed themselves. Art LaPella (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I'll propose another alternative myself:

• Alt ... that according to the Zizhi Tongjian, the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji raised the assessed value of goods to avoid undue tax burden on people who paid taxes with goods? --Nlu (talk) 02:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• I like it. Art LaPella (talk) 05:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Miss Amelia Van Buren

• ... that Miss Amelia Van Buren (pictured) is an 1891 painting by the American artist Thomas Eakins depicting one of his most gifted pupils?

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by Raul654 (talk) at 17:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: Great new article by JNW.Raul654 (talk) 17:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Miss Amelia Van Buren – JNW (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Raul654 (give)

• Length and history verified, offline ref accepted in good faith. I'd suggest the following hook:
• ALT1 ... that the woman depicted in the painting Miss Amelia Van Buren (pictured) was one of artist Thomas Eakins' most gifted students? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
• Shouldn't the title be in italics? Circeus (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Good save. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Hobo News, International Brotherhood Welfare Association

• ... that Hobo News, a newspaper for migratory workers published by the International Brotherhood Welfare Association in the early 20th century, included poems and travelogues as well as news?

• ALT1:... that in the early 20th century there were two American newspapers called Hobo News?

Created by Apoc2400 (talk). Nominated by Rjanag (talk) at 13:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: the ALT doesn't include a link to IBWA.rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Hobo News – Apoc2400 (give) (tag)
•   Hobo News – Rjanag (give) (tag)
•   International Brotherhood Welfare Association – Apoc2400 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Rjanag (give)

• :*ALT2:... that in the early 20th century there were two American newspapers called Hobo News, one published by the IBWA, a mutual aid society for migratory workers?

(takes care of the problem of no mention of the IBWA) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and dates of both articles verified. Sources verified. Not entirely comfortable with the http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/7423/streetpapers.html web host of article, but the article looks legitimate. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, I found it a bit weird, but I've just been using it as a convenient way to access what otherwise seems like a real journal article. I guess I could go looking for the actual article in a database somewhere, if something lights a fire under me. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 22:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• The article exists at least, see [6] and scroll down to Dodge, Chris. I don't think there is anything supported only by that reference in any case. --Apoc2400 (talk) 23:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

ALT3:... that in the early 20th century there were two American newspapers called Hobo News, one published by the IBWA, a mutual aid society for migratory workers (cover pictured)? --Apoc2400 (talk) 13:03, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

St Philip's Church, Hove

• ... that an edition of BBC radio programme Any Questions?, featuring former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was broadcast live from St Philip's Church, Hove (pictured) in 1995?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   St Philip's Church, Hove – Hassocks5489 (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. Off line book source for hook accepted on good faith. --—Mattisse (Talk) 23:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Davy Crockett (TV series)

• ... that the ABC/Disney production Davy Crockett (1954–1955) was the first miniseries in the history of television though the term had not yet been coined?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Davy Crockett (TV series) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Considered by whom? Not stated in the article either. Also some concern over the reliability of the sources used aside from the one used to support this fact. —97198 (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Correction made Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (TV series)

• ... that the 1962 ABC sitcom Mr. Smith Goes to Washington featured the final television appearance of the pantomime artist Harpo Marx?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (TV series) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Article is too short - only 1351 characters. It must be at least 1500. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

It may be 1500 now.Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• 1701. Counting instructions here. Art LaPella (talk) 22:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. The hook source does not say this was Harpo Marx's final TV appearance, that I could find. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

* alt ... that the 1962 ABC sitcom Mr. Smith Goes to Washington featured a television appearance by the pantomime artist Harpo Marx?

• This is verified by the source, http://www.filmreference.com/film/67/Harpo-Marx.html. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Dante (TV series)

• ... that the 1960 NBC series Dante, with Howard Duff as a former gambler operating a San Francisco nightclub, was conceived on Dick Powell's Four Star Playhouse?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Dante (TV series) – Billy Hathorn (give) (tag)

• Article is too short - only 1160 characters. It must be at least 1500. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I tried to expand it to 1500 characters.Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• No inline citation for this fact, and the only things that could remotely be considered citations for it (although they're still too far away) are IMDB pages. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 15

Rodeo in the United States

• ... that a rules dispute during the first all-girl rodeo in the United States, in 1948 in Amarillo, Texas, led to formation of the Women's Professional Rodeo Association?

Created by Buttermilk1950 (talk). Nominated by Una Smith (talk) at 14:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Rodeo in the United States – Buttermilk1950 (give) (tag)
•   Nom credit: Una Smith (give)

• Date and length check out. Hook is in the article, but is not specifically sourced. Also, the article recently received a {{POV}} tag from me and may not be suitable for the front page as it is unbalanced. ++Lar: t/c 19:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Hook now is specifically sourced. --Una Smith (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Footnote 54 is expository text clarifying why another event is not "first"... but as is our practice at DYK, cite to printed source including page number (noted as the same cite as before, just moved to a different location in the sentence) accepted. So, hook, length and source checked out. Article still has major POV issues, but it is technically not disqualified. ++Lar: t/c 23:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Kadettangen

• ... that the peninsula Kadettangen got its name as a site of cadet training, conducted by the Norwegian Military Academy and discontinued from 1896?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   [[]] – Punkmorten (give) (tag) – View nom subpage

• I don't see a footnote for this? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 15:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Of course the entire paragraph is covered by ref 2. I added another ref tag, though. Punkmorten (talk) 10:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• Offline, Norwegian ref accepted in good faith, length and history good. The paragraph had three different footnotes throughout it so I wasn't totally sure which stuff (out of the stuff without a direct citation) came from which one. Better now, though. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:45, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Alla (song)

• ... that Swedish singer Sofia Berntson's Greek song "Alla" made it to the final of Melodifestivalen 2009, the selection process to choose Sweden's entry in the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest?

5x expanded by Grk1011 (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Alla (song) – Grk1011 (give) (tag)

• ALT: ... that Sweden could have been represented in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009 with the Greek song "Alla" sung by Swedish singer Sofia Berntson? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 00:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Yu Di

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor lost his chancellorship in a scandal where he tried to use bribes to obtain a Jiedushi (military governor) position?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Yu Di – Nlu (give) (tag)

• I3 requires the hook to link to the article, so ALT1: ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Yu Di lost his chancellorship in a scandal where he tried to use bribes to obtain a Jiedushi (military governor) position? Art LaPella (talk) 02:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Oops; missed his name accidentally. --Nlu (talk) 10:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Unfortunately, I could not find the hook in the article although there was discussion of bribes. Also, the hook in the article must have a reference directly after it, even if it means repeating a reference further down in the paragraph. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• It's the entire second paragraph of the section "After return to Chang'an" with the hook intending to summarize the entire paragraph. --Nlu (talk) 18:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Barryville–Shohola Bridge

• ... that the Barryville–Shohola Bridge's first three constructed spans were built by the same person in the 1800s?

Created by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Barryville–Shohola Bridge – Mitchazenia (give) (tag)

• Length and date verified. I could not verify the hook as there is no place in the article that says the first three spans were built by the same person. Also, why is that unusual? —Mattisse (Talk) 01:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Its spread through the "First Two Spans" and "The Third Span" as it lists Chauncey Thomas (d. 1882) having done the first three in one way or another. Also, does it always happen when the same person has to build and rebuild the same bridge three times?Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 09:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

• Many bridges have more than one span, so in those cases it would not be unusual. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• This bridge has had to be built five times once in 1854, once in 1859, once in 1866, once in 1941, and once in 2007. There's only one span, and its the same bridge.Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 09:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Would you be willing to clarify this in the hook? Perhaps using a less ambiguous word than "span" would help. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

• Changed.Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 10:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Trinity Episcopal Church (Columbia, South Carolina)

File:TrinityEpiscopalChurch.jpg

• ... that three Wade Hamptons and three South Carolina Governors named Manning are buried at Trinity Episcopal Churchyard in Columbia, South Carolina?

Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Trinity Episcopal Church (Columbia, South Carolina) – KudzuVine (give) (tag)

• Alt 1... Trinity Episcopal Church (pictured) in Columbia, South Carolina is a Gothic revival church designed to resemble York Minster? Awadewit (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

• I meant to include one similar to Alt 1, but forgot. Thank you. KudzuVine (talk) 21:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Length, reference and history verified for alt 1. Daniel Case (talk) 13:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Reduced relative clause

The garden path effect for the sentence "the florist sent the flowers..."

• ... that sentences with reduced relative clauses, such as the horse raced past the barn fell, can lead you down a garden path (example pictured)?

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment: The image wouldn't show up well at 100x100px (although it might still encourage people to click on it and get a better look). I'm assuming we probably won't be able to use it, but if anyone does think it would be ok to use, let me know so I can put in a request at WP:GL/I to have it vectorized.rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Reduced relative clause – Rjanag (give) (tag)

Image notwithstanding, length and history verified and offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 13:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Laugh-Out-Loud Cats

• ... that among other sources, the lolcat-inspired Laugh-Out-Loud Cats comics (pictured) draw from the style of Sidney Smith's 1910s comic strip Old Doc Yak?

Created/expanded by Ragesoss (talk). Self nom at 03:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Laugh-Out-Loud Cats – Ragesoss (give) (tag)

• Verified. The source might qualify as SPS, but I believe that is permissible in this case since it's about the comic's overt influences. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 03:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 14

Cyclone Joni (2009)

• ... that the name Joni was retired, after its previous use?

Created by Jason Rees (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Cyclone Joni (2009) – Jason Rees (give) (tag)

• The hook needs more context. Shubinator (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

• alt ... that although the name "Joni" was retired after the 1992–93 South Pacific cyclone season, for unknown reasons it remained on the naming lists to be used again for Cyclone Joni (2009)?
• Length and date are verified. Note The article says, This is the second time a cyclone has been named Joni, after last being used in the 1992–93 South Pacific cyclone season.[15] The name Joni was retired after that season as it caused significant damages to Fiji, however for unknown reasons the name Joni remained on the naming lists. However, neither 1992 Pacific typhoon season nor 1993 Pacific typhoon season mention a Cyclone Joni. The article 1997–98 South Pacific cyclone season does list a Cyclone Joni, but does not say the name "Joni" was retired. The source for the hook http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/tcp/documents/TCP24-English2008.pdf does not address this issue. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Forgive me im not quite sure what the issue is as pages 28 -30 of that document does verify, that the name was used in and retired after the 1992-93 South Pacific Cyclone season. Also 1992 and 1993 PTS will not mention a Cyclone Joni as its not relevant to their articles, however it is relevant to the 1990–1995 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons and has a section Also 1997-98 SPAC does not mention a Cyclone Joni as the name was not used in that year Jason Rees (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

• For your new hook, you need to verify 1.) that the name "Joni" was retired after the 1992–93 South Pacific cyclone season, 2.) that nonetheless it remained on the naming lists, and 3.) that the reason it remained on the lists is unknown. Are there references in your article already? —Mattisse (Talk) 20:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Thats all backed up by 2008's Tropical Cyclone Operational Plan which is linked to in the article - and yes their are references in my article :) Jason Rees (talk) 23:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• But the information has to be in the article. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

• The infomation is in the article Ed :} - it just may not be clear enough, which i will try and fix Jason Rees (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Sloat's Dam and Mill Pond

• ... that Sloat's Dam (pictured) in Sloatsburg, New York, is the only remaining intact dam on the Rockland County stretch of the Ramapo River? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 17:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

  Verified length and date. Received Java error attempting to access online source, so will accept on good faith. "That stretch" in the hook is somewhat vague. What stretch? What characterizes "that stretch"? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't sure where I was lengthwise, so I left "Rockland County" out. I'll put it back in. I would have said "upper Ramapo River" but that would be technically incorrect since Village of Monroe Historic District uses a picture of another old dam much further upriver. Daniel Case (talk) 16:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Ahmad Salama Mabruk

• ... that although he was allegedly kicked out of Egyptian Islamic Jihad for his opposition to Osama bin Laden, Ahmad Salama Mabruk was sentenced to death in absentia? (self-nom) Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 14:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Ahmad Salama Mabruk – Sherurcij (give) (tag)

• ... that Ahmad Salama Mabruk has been arrested three times, in connection with the assassination of Anwar Sadat, in the company of Ayman al-Zawahiri and for plotting to blow up an American embassy? Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 19:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

• Length and date verified. Could not find hook in article; found pieces of each hook but not all of either hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

The first one is out of order, but the second one is all there. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 04:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• ... that although Ahmad Salama Mabruk's son was executed by Egyptian Islamic Jihad, he remained devoted to the group and led their Azeri branch? Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 04:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
• It is still not clear to me in the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Jelgava Palace

• ... that Jelgava Palace hosts the tomb of the Dukes of Curland where members of the Kettler family were buried in 21 sarcophagi from 1569 to 1791?

Mitava Palace

Created by Wikiolap (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Jelgava Palace – Wikiolap (give) (tag)

• Length and date and source for hook verified if this statement means there were 21 sacophagi: "The Duke Wilhelm’s wife Sophie who died in 1610 also had been buried in Kuldīga castle church was completed; there was a cellar beneath it for the Dukes’ sarcophagi. The cellar premise was about 9 m wide, with a free passage in the middle and covered by a barrel vault. In 1587, the Duke Gotthard was the first to be buried there; 24 members of the Kettler family were buried until 1737." —Mattisse (Talk) 00:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

• Your article says "Of a special historical interest, there is the burial vault of the Dukes of Curland in the south-east basement. It contains 30 buried members of Kettler family - 21 Sarcophagus and 9 wodden coffins. The burials were made from 1569 to 1791." Who are the Kettler family? Perhaps you could come up with a better hook? —Mattisse (Talk) 00:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

  ... that a Latvian agricultural school occupies Mitava Palace where Louis XVIII of France lived for four years and where all the Dukes of Courland are buried? --Ghirla^-трёп- 20:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Articles created/expanded for April Fool's Day 2009 (April 1)

Main page: Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know

Please suggest hooks at Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know, not here. Royalbroil 14:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded for Orthodox Easter (April 19)

Anastasios Christodoulou

• ... that Greek Cypriot academic Anastasios Christodoulou, the Foundation Secretary of Britain's Open University, was the son of a cobbler?

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

•   Anastasios Christodoulou – Jack1956 (give) (tag)

Alt ... that Greek Cypriot academic Anastasios Christodoulou was named 'Anastasios' ('Resurrection') by his parents as he was born on Easter Day? Jack1956 (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

• Currently tagged as a stub by the creator. Shubinator (talk) 00:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

• My mistake...I substantially expanded the article but forgot to change the rating. Now corrected. Jack1956 (talk) 22:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

If we were going to use the 2nd hook might we save this article for Orthodox Easter 2009 (April 19)? --Boston (talk) 01:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Let's. That's the only way it would become interesting enough ... I'm sure he's not the only Anastasios in the world who got that name from being born on Easter. Daniel Case (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

See also

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