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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 21

Frank E. Baker Motorcycles Ltd

... that at the 1911 Olympia Motorcycle Show in London there were 96 motorcycles with Frank E. Baker's Precision engines?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 08:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Siward Barn

... that after his release from prison in 1087, the English rebel Siward Barn is thought by some historians to have founded a colony on the Black Sea with other refugees from the Norman Conquest of England

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 08:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alberto Cavos

... that Alberto Cavos designed and rebuilt two Bolshoi Theatres - one in Saint Petersburg and one in Moscow?

Created by [[User:User:NVO|User:NVO]] ([[User talk:User:NVO|talk]]). Self nom at 07:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bradbury Motor Cycles

... that by 1910 Bradbury Motor Cycles had won over 300 first prizes including 18 gold medals in hill climbing competitions?

Created/expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas

... that the publication of the first volume of the anthology Anarchism: A Documentary History of Libertarian Ideas in 2006 was hailed as a manifestation of a resurgent interest in anarchist philosophy?

Created/expanded by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KVXX

... that the Christian Science Monitor once described radio station KSLM (now KVXX) in Salem, Oregon, as "a barricade holding questionable advertising material from the ears of listeners"?

Created by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 00:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Asad Ali Khan

... that Asad Ali Khan, one of a few remaining rudra veena players, was awarded the Indian civilian honor Padma Bhushan in 2008?

Created by Hekerui (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 20

Alauddin Alam Shah

...that the son of Sultan Ali of Johor, Tengku Alam, inspired the Jementah Civil War in 1879 after he failed to claim inheritance of his father's territory at Kessang?

5X expanded by Mr Tan (talk). Self nom at 08:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lausanne Hall

... that one year after a fire damaged Lausanne Hall (pictured) at Willamette University, the dormitory had to be evacuated due to a suspicious package?

Created/expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Male Restroom Etiquette

... that the mockumentary Male Restroom Etiquette is the most viewed Sims video on YouTube?

Created by Rfc1394 (talk), TKD (talk). Nominated by TKD (talk) at 05:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whisky Creek Cabin

... that the Whisky Creek Cabin (pictured), built about 1880, is the oldest remaining mining cabin along the wild and scenic section of the Rogue River in southwest Oregon?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 03:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ATV Today

... that original Who Wants to be a Millionaire? host Chris Tarrant got his start in television as a news reporter for ATV Today?

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by HowardBerry (talk) at 01:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article has no inline citations. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Schapiro, Sascha Schapiro

... that there were two unrelated Jewish anarchists named Alexander Schapiro active in Russia during the civil war, one leading a cadre of anarchist bandits and the other in the Bolshevik government?

Created by Skomorokh (talk). Self nom at 00:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt... that there were two unrelated Jewish anarchists named Alexander Schapiro active in Russia during the civil war, one in the Bolshevik government and the other leading a cadre of anarchist revolutionaries against it? Skomorokh 03:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Debbie Kruger

... that Debbie Kruger based her book, Songwriters Speak (2005), on interviews with songwriters for the Australasian Performing Rights Association's 75th anniversary when publicising the 2001 Top 30 Australian songs list?

Created/expanded by Shaidar cuebiyar (talk). Self nom at 23:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Salle

... that the long jumper Fred Salle originally represented England in international competitions, then changed allegiance to Cameroon before returning to England some years later?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a source for his returning to England (other than the undated IAAF profile that has him listed under GBR)? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 21:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found it as he won a medal at the 1992 UK Championships, "with entry limited to British Athletes" according to the page. After this point in time he is also listed as a non-foreigner in the AAA Championships, listed as a British competitors in the World Cup, at the British all-time list etc. Punkmorten (talk) 09:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Holmes

... that Sir Ronald Holmes was the acting Colonial Secretary of Hong Kong during the 1967 Leftist Riots?

Created by Clithering (talk). Self nom at 20:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Having read the article, I cannot say whether the hook is verified. The part that seems to address the issues in the hook do not have a source. In any event, I do not think the hook is interesting or intriguing and that it is too obscure. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{ alt ... that in 1966 when Sir Ronald Holmes was appointed as Secretary for Home Affairs in Hong Kong, the Cultural Revolution had broken out on mainland China and the situation was unstable? ( taken from article sourced by Chinese references accepted in good faith.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment. The hook has been rephrased.--Clithering (talk) 06:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hurdia

The Cambrian predator Hurdia

... that the Cambrian predator Hurdia (pictured) was thought to be a number of separate organisms for 100 years, until its redescription this week?

Created by Nrkn (talk). Expanded by Spotty11222 (talk · contribs) and Smith609; nominated by Smith609 (talk) at 19:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Not sure what week "this week" is in hook. There seems to be an incomplete reference in the article —Mattisse (Talk) 19:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's the week containing today. I would have said 'today', but the hook probably won't go live for a couple of days, so 'this week' seemed more appropriate. '2009' lacks the immediacy of 'this week'. Perhaps 'This month' would be a suitable compromise? Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 00:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It may be next week that it runs as a DYK or even longer. It is unpredictable. Some run right away, but some wait a week or two. If you look at the queue, it goes back to March 12 hooks that are still considered eligible as of today—that is 12 days ago. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that the 500 million year old Cambrian predator Hurdia (pictured) was thought to be a number of separate organisms for 100 years, until 2009 when the complete animal was reconstructed? (sourced statement from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 20:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arno von Lenski

... that Nazi General Arno von Lenski served in the East German National People's Army?

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date of article verified. Offline and German language sources accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt ... that after the foundation of the German Democratic Republic, Nazi General Arno von Lenski was formally acknowledged as a "Victim of Fascism" in 1949? (sourced statement from the article) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the alt - it's more hooky. ^Law_shoot! 20:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The alt sounds good to me, too. HerkusMonte (talk) 07:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charnockite, St. Thomas Mount

... that the Charnockite in St. Thomas Mount, Chennai got its name from Job Charnock, the founder of Kolkata, whose tomb was made of rocks quarried from St. Thomas Mount?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Ravichandar84 (talk) at 15:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

White Dog (book)

... that Romain Gary's 1970 fictional memoir White Dog, originally released as Chien Blanc, attacks Marlon Brando and Jean Seberg for their activist activities in the 1960s?

5x expanded by User:Collectonian (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Romain Gary wrote his autobiographical novel White Dog in both French and English versions, both published in France and the United States, respectively, in 1970? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:22, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt2 ... that Romain Gary wrote both French and English versions of his 1970 autobiographical novel White Dog, published in France and the United States, respectively? (Removes the use of "both" twice in the alt hook above.) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt3 ... that Romain Gary wrote both French and English versions of his 1970 fictional memoir White Dog, and made the ending of the American version more optimistic? (sourced info from article) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both are good alts, thanks :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vukovo

... that Vukovo is considered one of the oldest settlements in the municipality because of the discovered archaeological remains in the surroundings of it – an antique settlement, necropolis and a fortress from Late Antiquity?

Created by Gligan (talk). Nominated by Astatine-210 (talk) at 14:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not long enough (only prose size is counted), insufficient references. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem (video game)

... that filmmakers the Brothers Strause collaborated with video game company Rebellion Developments to create the game tie-in for Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem?

5x expanded by Vantine84 (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and source for hook verified. However, there is a "merge" tag on the article. Also the hook is promotional. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is? Do you have any suggestions for making it non-promotional? It wasn't my intention to promote the game or the movie; I just wanted to point out that Hollywood people helped with a video game, which is uncommon. Also, the merge tag has been removed (and not by me). — Levi van Tine (t – c) 07:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bede Polding College

... that when Bede Polding College was first opened, it only had nine staff members?

Created by Sarakthx (talk). Nominated by astatine-210 (talk) at 13:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not long enough, and in extremely poor shape. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Factions of Command & Conquer

... that the Command & Conquer series has three main factions: The Global Defence Initiative, the Brotherhood of Nod and the Scrin?

5x expanded by Caissa's DeathAngel (talk). Nominated by Cabe6403 (talk) at 13:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. The hook statement is not sourced in the article (that I could see) plus it is not interesting nor intruiging. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup

... that the semifinal series between the Purefoods TJ Giants and the Tanduay Rhum Masters in the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup was postponed twice after Tanduay got a temporary restraining order when their wins were forfeited?

Created/expanded by User:Howard the Duck. Self nom at 12:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt: ... that the semifinal series between the Purefoods TJ Giants and the Tanduay Rhum Masters in the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup was the first time a game was postponed other than for a typhoon, earthquake or bomb threat? –Howard the Duck 13:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. I cannot find reference for the first hook. (Can you show it to me?) The second hook is referenced but the hook is 242 characters, a little over the 200 character maximum for the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 14:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first TRO was on citation #1, the second one is on citation #4. Basically the second was just an extension of the first. –Howard the Duck 14:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

*alt2 ... that the postponement of the 2000 PBA All-Filipino Cup series between Purefoods TJ Giants and Tanduay Rhum Masters was the first other than for a typhoon, earthquake or bomb threat? (181 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 14:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes this is better. –Howard the Duck 14:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Heart of Rock & Roll

... that the hit Huey Lewis and the News song, "The Heart of Rock & Roll", was originally written about a concert the band performed in Cleveland, Ohio?

Created by CarpetCrawler (talk). Self nom at 09:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 11:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Blender magazine called the Huey Lewis and the News hit song "The Heart of Rock & Roll" one of the "50 Worst Songs Ever"? (different info) —Mattisse (Talk) 12:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oooh, that one is very good! :) CarpetCrawler (talk) 16:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nidula

... that Nidula niveo-tomentosa (pictured), a bird's nest fungus in the genus Nidula, produces a chemical that is a major component of raspberry flavor?

5x expanded by sasata (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline book source for hook accepted on good faith. Source for first hook is also online. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source #10 (as of now) seems to be online. ^Law_shoot! 12:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that a species in the genus Nidula produces bioactive compounds, including a major component of raspberry flavor and an insect attractor used in pesticides? (additional info) —Mattisse (Talk) 12:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Sauer

... that former American football linebacker Craig Sauer has three brothers who have played professional ice hockey?

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date, size and ref hook all check out. ^Law_shoot! 10:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 19

George A. Steel

... that George A. Steel (pictured) was elected as Oregon State Treasurer after his company went bankrupt?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 06:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cairo International Book Fair

... that the Cairo International Book Fair (pictured) is the oldest and largest Book fair in the Arab world ?

Created/expanded by T L Miles (talk), Dr B2 (talk). Nominated by T L Miles (talk) at 06:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drew Blickensderfer

... that crew chief Drew Blickensderfer helped driver Matt Kenseth (pictured) become the fifth driver to start a NASCAR season with back-to-back wins?

Created by Royalbroil (talk), Drdisque (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Illinois Centennial Monument

... that the Illinois Centennial Monument (pictured) is a marble Doric column built to scale with the columns of the Parthenon?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 00:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

J. P. Wearing

... that the 16-volume series The London Stage by J. P. Wearing has been called "invaluable, thoroughly accurate" and "a proverbial mine of useful information"?

Created by Ssilvers (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Subscription source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Big East Conference football awards

... that the Miami Hurricanes have won 26 Big East Conference football awards even though they belonged to the conference from only 1991 to 2004?

5x expanded by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 17:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Multiple references for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt ... that the Miami Hurricanes won 26 Big East Conference football awards in the 14 years they belonged to the conference (1991–2004)? (rewording of hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau

... that the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau, started in 1908, was the first journal of comparative law in the United States?

ALT1:... that the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau (1908) was the first journal of comparative law in the United States and had foreign correspondents from fourteen countries?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Also used in a double hook below.— The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

American Bar Association Journal

... that the American Bar Association Journal is read every month by half of the 1 million lawyers in the United States?

ALT1: ... that the venerable American Bar Association Journal reinvented itself in 2007 as a Web 2.0 site featuring analysis from more than 2,000 legal blogs?
ALT2: ... that the ABA Journal, the monthly magazine of the American Bar Association, emerged in 1915 from an annual bulletin of comparative law?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Also used in a double hook below.— The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith. Note that the journal "claims" it is read by half of the 1 million lawyers. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau, American Bar Association Journal

... that the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau (1908) was the first journal of comparative law in the U.S. and evolved into the American Bar Association Journal (1915)?

ALT1:... that the American Bar Association Journal evolved from the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau, the first journal of comparative law in the U.S.?
ALT2:... that the American Bar Association Journal evolved from the first journal of comparative law in the U.S., the Annual Bulletin of the Comparative Law Bureau?

Created by The Little Blue Frog (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This is linking two new articles for which I also posted solo hooks above.— The Little Blue Frog (ribbit) 01:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Please put them all under one section, it's really annoyingly redundant. Circeus (talk) 14:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lengths and dates of both articles verified. Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You need to choose whether you want to submit the double hook or submit the hooks independently. It may confuse to submit both. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ninja miner

... that Mongolian Ninja miners are so named because the green bowls they carry on their backs for gold panning resemble the shells of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

ALT1:... that the number of Ninja miners in Mongolia increased from 30,000 to 100,000 between 2003 and 2007?

5x expanded by kelapstick (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George Hedges

... that George Hedges, a lawyer who represented Hollywood stars and studios, was part of an archaeological team that discovered the remains of the ancient frankincense trading city of Ubar?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

·Length, date and source for hook verified. (Hook is 200 characters.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Adams and Eve

... that the 1957–1958 CBS sitcom Mr. Adams and Eve featured Howard Duff and Ida Lupino, then married to each other in real life, as a fictitious husband/wife acting duo living in Beverly Hills?

ALT:... that most filmed copy of the CBS sitcom Mr. Adams and Eve was destroyed or lost in storage because of a contract dispute when the series was cancelled in 1958?

New artice by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. First hook source verified by assuming good faith for book source. Second hook questionable as the source given: http://www.tv.com/mr.-adams-and-eve/teen-age-idol/episode/86956/summary.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=episodessh&tag=episodes;title is a source any registered user over 13 can edit. Note that first hook can also be verified by http://www.tvparty.com/vaultadams.html, although it is not listed as a source for that hook in article. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Festning Tunnel, Rådhusplassen

- ... that the building of the Festning Tunnel made it possible to turn Rådhusplassen, Oslo, (pictured) into a car-free square?

Created/expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 17:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date for both articles verified. Hook from online source in Norweigian taken on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dorothea Holt Redmond

... that when Dorothea Holt Redmond was hired in 1938 in the "heretofore exclusively male field" of film production design, male co-workers demanded that she work in a walled-off area separated from them?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hunga Tonga

... that a submarine eruption near the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai volcano in Tonga began spewing steam, smoke, pumice, and ash thousands of feet into the sky above the ocean on March 16, 2009?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Not sure that the hook has correct date, as source article indicates the erruption was Thursday, that is, March 19, 2009. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Link to Smithsonian site[1] (cited in the article, and which is more accurate than mass media reports) says either March 16 or 17, but reported on March 17. AP article (dated March 19) cited at the bottom of the article says volcano "has been erupting for days". I went with the more reputable citation for eruption date (although you can flip a coin as to March 16 or March 17). - Tim1965 (talk) 00:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Accept this justification for date on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I clarified the date of eruption issue in a footnote, now, too, with sources. - Tim1965 (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Le Journal de Mickey

... that Le Journal de Mickey, a French comics magazine first published in 1934, is credited with "the birth of the modern bande dessinée"?

Created by Fram (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vika Line

- ... that when the Vika Line opened in 1995, it was the first new street line of the Oslo Tramway since 1939?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline sources in Norwegian accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 15:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Korean Air Lines Flight 85

... that after the September 11 attacks Korean Air Lines Flight 85 be shot down by American F-15 military jets?

Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only 1471 characters when a minimun of 1500 characters is required. Can you expand it a little more? —Mattisse (Talk) 15:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK I've expanded the article. -- Esemono (talk) 00:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you did, but now the article is only 1127 characters. Remember, anything in a list or a blockquote does not count. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Really no lists? Anyway I hope the most recent changes will bump up the character cound. -- Esemono (talk) 02:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Really no lists; see C1. But it's now 3399 characters counted our way. Art LaPella (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date of article verified. However the hook is misleading. The source for the hook says

The CBC interview, part of a documentary that traced the actions of senior government officials that fateful day, revealed that the Prime Minister had essentially authorized U.S. fighter jets to shoot down a Korean airliner over Canada if it diverted from a planned emergency landing in Whitehorse.
While still over Alaska, the pilot of the Korean Airlines 747 had erroneously sent coded signals indicating the airliner had been hijacked. The pilot was ordered to land in Whitehorse, and was met by U.S. jet fighters while still over American territory.
NORAD command in Winnipeg agreed the airliner could enter Canadian airspace accompanied by the U.S. fighters, but insisted the decision to shoot it down must be the Canadian government's.

There is a big if in the source. It does not say that the Canadian Prime Minister, Jean Chrétien, authorized that ... —Mattisse (Talk) 19:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but removing the entire phrase makes the hook meaningless. Did you mean Flight 85 "was authorized to be shot down ..."? Art LaPella (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt: ... that after the September 11 attacks, Korean Air Lines Flight 85 accidentally sent out a hijack signal? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt 2: ... that the decision to shoot down Korean Air Lines Flight 85 when it accidentally sent out a hijack signal after the September 11 attacks rested with the Canadian Prime Minister? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Both of the new alt hooks are fine and verified by the sources. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sunfish Pond

... that Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas mentioned the National Natural Landmarked Sunfish Pond (pictured) in his dissenting opinion in the Sierra Club v. Morton case?

Created by Dmadeo (talk). Self nom at 07:04, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 11:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henryk Rzewuski

... that Polish writer Henryk Rzewuski (pictured) fought for Poland's independence in 1809 but later collaborated with the Russian Imperial Viceroy of the Kingdom of Poland, Ivan Paskevich?

Self-nom by Nihil novi (talk) 06:05, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Offline sources for hook accepted on good faith. (It would be better if each sentence referring to hook had a citation, but will accept good faith of editor on this issue in this case.) —Mattisse (Talk) 11:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided an additional citation. Thanks for the suggestion. Nihil novi (talk) 07:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sarojini Varadappan

... that Indian social worker and 2009 Padma Bhushan awardee, Sarojini Varadappan is a daughter of former Chief Minister of Madras, M. Bhaktavatsalam?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 05:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, Hook and Refs check out. dm (talk) 08:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Phillimore

... that when only given enough money to paint half his ship, John Phillimore protested by asking the Navy Board which half they wished him to paint?

ALT1:... that John Phillimore once thrashed naval historian William James with a stick for a perceived slight in James's Naval History?

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Date and length fine. AGF on offline sources. Both hooks are fine, however I find the ALT pretty funny. ^Law_shoot! 07:13, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Warren Tolman

... that politician Warren Tolman ran a campaign for governor of Massachusetts while suing to implement the state's Clean Elections law?

Created by Chick Bowen (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Size, date, and hook ref all check out. ^Law_shoot! 01:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 18

Genius (TV series)

... that the idea of a two hooded coat to keep your date dry in the rain is genius?

5x expanded by ISD (talk). Self nom at 09:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St. Augustine Gospels

... that the 6th century St. Augustine Gospels is the oldest surviving illustrated Latin Gospel book, but is still regularly used?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Size, date and image fine. AGF on offline hook. Would prefer an inline citation for latter half of the hook sentence. ^Law_shoot! 20:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Johnbod (talk) 04:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sultan Ali of Johor

... that Sultan Ali of Johor signed a treaty on 10 March 1855 with the Temenggong which formally ceded his sovereignty claims over Johor?

5X expanded by Mr Tan (talk). Self nom at 06:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline source for hook accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

V. Kanakasabhai

... that Indian historian V. Kanakasabhai, who was the first to attempt a systematic chronology of Tamils, was of Sri Lankan Tamil ancestry?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. That he was the first to attemp a systematic history is verified. However, that he was of Tamil ancestry is not. (Please show me where, if I am wrong.) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kathleen Gough

... that British anthropologist Kathleen Gough and her husband were believed to be on the FBI's watchlist due to their alleged Marxist leanings?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 01:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Iced Earth discography

... that heavy metal band Iced Earth reached the Billboard 200 chart for the first time, only fourteen years after the release of their debut album?

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Is the hook meant to be sarcastic? Because fourteen years is a rather long time. FingersOnRoids♫ 21:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ehhh, no. Do you have any suggestions to improve? Canniba loki 22:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that heavy metal band Iced Earth reached the Billboard 200 chart for the first time, fourteen years after the release of their debut album? (Removed "only" as that word made the hook seem sarcastic.) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:53, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. German language sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:55, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 2: ... that, fourteen years after the release of their debut album, heavy metal band Iced Earth charted on the Billboard 200 for the first time? MelicansMatkin (talk) 22:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I think Alt 2 puts it best. FingersOnRoids♫ 00:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the hook, should we link "debut album" to Iced Earth (album)? MelicansMatkin (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Skip Young (actor)

... that Skip Young (1930–1993), who played humorous Wally Plumstead on the ABC sitcom The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet was actually named Ronald Plumstead?

ALT:... that Skip Young, who played humorous Wally Plumstead on ABC's The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, was a Korean War Navy veteran interred at Riverside National Cemetery?

New artice by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. First hook is not correctly referrenced as the IMBD page does not mention his original name. The second hook is referrenced by http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9704 which I don't think is considered a reliable source for this information. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner

... that the PlayStation Portable video game Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner uses the PSP's internal clock to continually train the player's monsters, even when the console is not in use?

Created by Vantine84 (talk). Self nom at 07:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Source for hook is not clearly verified. The source says, "The monster training system follows the PSP's internal clock, as a monster that you've trained in the morning shows the fruits of your labor at night." I do not understand from this that the player's monsters continual to be trained when the console is not in use. Does the source sentence have the same meaning as your hook? —Mattisse (Talk) 12:42, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, they mean the same thing. Players can upgrade monsters normally, or they can allow the game to do it automatically by letting the console sit, because the game's code follows the PSP's battery-operated clock to track changes to monsters. Reference #7 may make it more clear; the 1UP preview says "...the fusion system takes place in real world time, so often fusions will take six to 10 hours to complete, encouraging players to stop playing and come back the next day when the fusion is done. Luckily, changing the PSP system date to six or 10 hours later is a good workaround that we're sure many players will be using." This also suggests that because anyone can simply change a PSP's clock settings at any time, players can cheat the game by "moving time forward". — Levi van Tine (t – c) 07:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magnificent (U2 song)

... that the U2 song "Magnificent" was originally titled "French Disco"?

Created by Y2kcrazyjoker (talk), MelicansMatkin (talk). Self nom at 05:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Source for hook is not verified. The reference given makes no mention of the song's original title. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies; it looks like the wrong citation was used by accident. I've replaced it with the correct one. MelicansMatkin (talk) 15:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook source verified, along with length and date. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scribner House (Cornwall, New York)

... that Charles Scribner II's country house (pictured) in Cornwall, New York, combined a Shingle Style exterior with a Colonial Revival interior? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 04:09, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1ee^talk 05:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hai Ying Wu

... that Chinese American sculptor Hai Ying Wu's work includes the Fallen Fire Fighters Memorial in Seattle and the Auto-Lite Strike Memorial in Toledo?

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 01:19, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Osbjorn Bulax

... that, according to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, in 1054 the eldest son of Earl Siward of Northumbria, Osbjorn, died in battle against King Macbeth of Scotland?

Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm counting 1487 worth of readable prose. ^Law_shoot! 01:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How's that? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 01:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good! Size and date fine. I have to AGF on the Scottish(?) hook ref, however. ^Law_shoot! 02:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, anyone with access to the ODNB can verify (see article). Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 02:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Davis v. Beason

... that in 1890, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Davis v. Beason that it was acceptable to prohibit religious polygamists from voting, despite the country's freedom of religion?

Created by Tempshill (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. I think the hook misrepresents the decision just a little, in that the court upheld a lower court ruling that an Idaho statute charging the defendant with a crime because he refused to take an oath as prescribed by an Idaho statute, that he would not commit polygamy or bigamy, did not violate his right to Free Exercise of his religion as a member of the Mormon Church. The Supreme court ruled this statute did not violate the defendant's First Amendment rights. Is your wording is good enough? —Mattisse (Talk) 13:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the wording is accurate and correctly represents the decision. It could be a little more precise to say "... that it was acceptable for States or Territories to prohibit religious polygamists from voting...". Or is your problem with the phrase "religious polygamists"? Do you have a preferred wording? Tempshill (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was hung up on the "oath" part, that he refused to take an oath regarding his religious behavior, but the hook is probably ok. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tianyulong

... that the discovery of feather-like structures on the primitive dinosaur Tianyulong (pictured) raises the possibility that ancestral dinosaurs were feathered?

Created by Crazyharp81602 (talk). Nominated by ArthurWeasley (talk) at 22:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Hook is not in article. Do feathers make an animal fuzzy? —Mattisse (Talk) 22:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The proto-feathers were filamentous hair-like structures so an animal covered with them will indeed look fuzzy. I can either modify the hook or write a sentence on fuzziness in the article, whichever you prefer. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Modified the hook. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You should clarify things in the article regardless. We can't expect an average reader to know what proto-feathers are and whether or not they were fuzzy. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done! The term "Fuzzy" is not very encyclopedic that's why it is not used in the article but it was used in the press release provided in the external link section. ArthurWeasley (talk) 23:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean "also feathered" in the hook? If you took the "also" out, I think it would improve the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good point! Removed "also" in the hook. ArthurWeasley (talk) 03:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I took the liberty to add a picture. ArthurWeasley (talk) 05:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Batavier Line, SS Batavier II (1897), SS Batavier V (1902)

... that the Batavier Line, a Rotterdam–London packet service, had two ships, Batavier II and Batavier V, seized as prizes by German U-boats during World War I?

ALT1:... that Batavier II and Batavier V, two of the five-ship fleet of the Batavier Line, were sunk by submarines in World War I?

Created by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified for all three articles. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:39, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to figure out how they were captured and sunk by submarines, something which I think the hook should convey. dm (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 ... that the Batavier II and Batavier V, part of the Dutch Batavier Line, were captured by German U-boats during World War I and later sunk by a British submarine and a German minelayer submarine respectively? dm (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure we necessarily need to explain everything in the hook, but the ALT works for me if that's what others think. It is, however, over 200 characters… — Bellhalla (talk) 14:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your ALT2 hook is 287 characters. The hook cannot be over 200 characters. Could you reword your ALT2? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:28, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that the Batavier II and Batavier V, of the Dutch Batavier Line, were captured, released, and later sunk by four different submarines? How about that? dm (talk) 02:27, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, technically, they weren't released by submarines, but it's close enough. — Bellhalla (talk) 04:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

János Apáczai Csere

... that the first textbook in the Hungarian language, an encyclopedia by János Apáczai Csere, was written and published in The Netherlands?

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 21:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Archer (D78)

... that a Fairey Swordfish from HMS Archer (pictured) was the first aircraft ever to land on Ascension Island?

5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 19:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Silver Slugger Award winners at first base

... that Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder are the only father-son combination to win a Silver Slugger Award at first base?

Created/expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 18:48, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Sources verified that both father and son were winners in that category. But I am not clear that the sources show that they were the "only" father-son combination. Could you point out where that is sourced, as I am missing it? —Mattisse (Talk) 20:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I could link to each player's statistics at Baseball-Reference, which shows parentage, but that would be a very large amount of refs. I know that the List of second-generation Major League Baseball players verifies it, but it's a Wikipedia page. [2] and [3] are lists of players, and though they don't specifically state this fact, checking them against the Wikipedia list will show that no other set won the award as first basemen. I am not sure what exactly would be required here. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[4] will show that he and his father both won the award and in what year, but also doesn't say that they were the only pair at first base. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If these issues make this a problem, may I suggest...

Alt1: ... that father and son combination Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base? KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt2: ... that both father and son, Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder, each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base? (clearer grammar) —Mattisse (Talk) 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I don't agree that this grammar is clearer. If an alt is to be used, I prefer 1 or 3. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 12:35, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt3: ... that the father and son combination Cecil Fielder and Prince Fielder each won a Silver Slugger Award at first base?

Alts are verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Crucibulum laeve

... that the white bird's nest mushroom Crucibulum laeve (pictured) produces a chemical that inhibits an enzyme implicated in the formation of cataracts in individuals with diabetes mellitus?

Created/expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Subscription web source accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joel Hopkins

... that writer-director Joel Hopkins made Last Chance Harvey to recreate the chemistry he had seen between actors Emma Thompson and Dustin Hoffman in a theatre production?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lucy Stone

... that Lucy Stone was pestered by rude comments from men and boys in the street during the year and a half she chose to wear fashion bloomers?

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 12:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The prose has only been expanded 2.7x in the last 5 days. --Bruce1ee^talk 13:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Washbrook

... that child actor Johnny Washbrook, though educated at two London art academies, spent his later adult years as a banker in Massachusetts?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and sources for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Brickell White

... that architect Edward Brickell White (b. 1806) contributed designs for buildings for five National Historic Landmarks and three on the National Register of Historic Places in South Carolina?

5x expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Hook is not stated clearly in article and it is difficult to verify without reading 10 PDF documents and compiling the info. Could the nominator please put the hook in the article and reference it? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I rethought this also, and decided to accept your hook references on good faith. Looking through the info, I can see that he indeed was a noted architect with many such buildings to his credit. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I realize that this might be a problem. I can't find any place to reference except in the documents or the WP page List of National Historic Landmarks in South Carolina, which is not an independent source. It was worth a try. Cheers KudzuVine (talk) 20:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rethought this. I could rewrite because the South Carolina Encyclopedia (reference 1) lists everything but the Daniel Morgan Monument. It does not specifically say that Grace Church and Charleston High are in Charleston Historic District and does not say that any are NHL/NRHP. And it is not online. I will also think about an alternate hook, but have not yet thought of one.KudzuVine (talk) 21:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Edward Brickell White (b. 1806) was known for his Gothic Revival architecture, including the Market Hall, a National Historic Landmark, and Trinity Episcopal Church on the National Register of Historic Places? —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This alt hook is referenced. Feel free to add another. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This one really doesn't work because Market Hall is a Greek Revival (I am not an architect and you could fool me!) I changed the article to put in the Huguenot Church picture because it is said to be Gothic Revival. I would stick with the original hook. KudzuVine (talk) 19:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Slaven's Cabin

... that Slaven's Cabin, a National Historic Site on the Yukon River in Alaska, is a rest area for the 1,000-mile Yukon Quest sled dog race?

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know. Please see C1 for details. Art LaPella (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that; keep forgetting the difference between the history in bytes and the character count. JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Knowlton

... that Martin Knowlton conceived the Elderhostel concept, in which senior citizens take college-level courses in the summer, to overcome "the disturbing concept that people are all used up after age 65"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Paid access news article accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Lau

... that Jason Lau is a Wing Chun Kung Fu Grandmaster who was an instructor in Mitchell Werbell III's counter-terrorist training camp?

Created by User:Pecoc (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe this individual meets our notability requirements, and am going to have to put this article up for AfD. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~AfD opened: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Lau.~~ rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have withdrawn the AfD. The article is still not ready for DYK yet, though, as it provides no context for the reader to know what it's talking about. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 14:14, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adolf Pilch

... that Adolf Pilch, Polish resistance fighter trained by SOE during WWII, fought against both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 17

Banksia lindleyana

... that Banksia lindleyana (pictured) goes by the common name of 'Porcupine Banksia'?

Created/expanded by Hesperian (talk), casliber (talk). Self nom at 05:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note >5x expansion from 36 to 956 words :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, image good. Reference is a book; I verified with this. Shubinator (talk) 05:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Database Console Commands (Transact-SQL)

... that the Database Console Commands are a set of Transact-SQL statements used to check the consistency of a Microsoft SQL Server database?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

382 characters of prose. Most of it is a list of commands. Please expand. Shubinator (talk) 02:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Oslo Tramway and T-bane, Homansbyen (station)

- ... that the history of the Oslo Tramway started with the construction of a horsecar line to Homansbyen in 1875?

Created/expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 14:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles are verified as to length and date. However, I am having difficulty seeing the relationship between the two articles reflected in the article text of either one. Perhaps you could point it out to me. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Fowler

... that Trooper Patrick Fowler spent most of World War One hiding in a wardrobe in German-occupied France?

Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 08:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sandomierz Voivodeship (1939)

... that Sandomierz Voivodeship (1939), was a proposed administrative unit of the Second Polish Republic, which was never created because of the Nazi and Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939? self nom by Tymek (talk) 19:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This article is mostly based on Polish-language sources, as I have not found anything in English on this topic. Tymek (talk) 19:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. However, the statement in the article "which was never created because of the Nazi and Soviet invasion of Poland in September 1939" is not referenced in the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does it have to be referenced? All sources claim that Polish government was very determined to create this voivodeship. The only reason it was not created was the war, nothing else. Tymek (talk) 02:36, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Li Fan

... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Li Fan sought to dissuade Emperor Xianzong from seeking immortality by citing the failed examples of Qin Shi Huang, Emperor Wu of Han, and Emperor Taizong of Tang?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 17:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: This is a new article that displaced a redirect.Nlu (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fountain of the Great Lakes

... that Fountain of the Great Lakes, which has three semi-nude figures, was dedicated three months after Chicago Mayor Carter Harrison changed the obscenity laws as they related to public art?

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that because of three semi-nude figures in the Fountain of the Great Lakes, Chicago changed its obscenity laws for public art in 1913 in order to dedicate it? (reworded original hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you can't see the source, it would be impossible for you to know this interpretation is incorrect. The laws were changed due to the furor over a public painting, I believe.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that the Fountain of the Great Lakes, with three semi-nude figures, was not dedicated until after Chicago changed its obscenity laws for public art in 1913? (reworded original hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reworded it. Is that OK?

Yes.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Chicago's Fountain of the Great Lakes is composed of five female figures arranged so that water flows through them in the same pattern as it does through the five Great Lakes? (difference angle on the fountain) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline book source for hook accepted on good faith. (Interesting article.) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Red Gap, British Columbia

... that the Straits Lumber mill at the ghost town of Red Gap, British Columbia was the largest in the Pacific Northwest for three years in the 1930s?

Created by KenWalker (talk). Self nom at 06:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that for three years in the 1930s, the Straits Lumber mill in Red Gap, British Columbia (now a ghost town) was the largest in the Pacific Northwest? (reworded a little) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

for whatever it may be worth, I think the alt version is an improvment -KenWalker | Talk 05:32, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Book source offline for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Camperdown Cemetery

... that the jilted bride Eliza Emily Donnithorne, who is buried in Camperdown Cemetery, may have been the model for Charles Dickens' reclusive Miss Havisham?

5x expanded by Amandajm (talk). Self nom, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Although the DYK checker says this article has not been expanded in the last 10 days, It has been expanded 5x starting March 14. However, the hook source http://www.myfidnet.com/ is not valid. Large parts of the article are not sourced. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with the link has been repaired. This is now a quite a long article and not all the refs are in place. Requires time. It's currently going for a DYK, not an FA. Amandajm (talk) 05:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Refs are important way below FA level as well... Punkmorten (talk) 08:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response I'm getting there. being now a longish article, it takes time to write and reference. The time frame for completing and referencing is indefinite. Having considerably expanded it, the time frame for putting it up for DYK is considerably shorter. That is the point that I am making here. Amandajm (talk) 08:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have some refs somewhere or other on my bookshelf as well, but there is alot going on all over the 'pedia currently. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The new link verifies the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edmund Harbitz

... that in 1905, Edmund Harbitz declined to join the cabinet of his former law firm partner Christian Michelsen?

5x expanded by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 22:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Offline sources in Norwegian for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My Friend Flicka (TV series)

... that the western TV series My Friend Flicka in the 1956 episode "Rough Rider" depicts Theodore Roosevelt (played by Frank Albertson) trying to halt a range war?

ALT... that the CBS western TV series My Friend Flicka produced only 39 episodes but aired for years on numerous networks in reruns?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and first hook verified, although the site is a little strange as only some things are "verified" on it . Could not verify second hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chilkat weaving

... that Tsimshian, Tlingit, and Haida tribes traditionally create ceremonial regalia with Chilkat weaving, a technique so complex that a single blanket might take a year to weave?

Created by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 18:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is 231 characters. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Chilkat weaving, a traditional technique of indigenous peoples of Alaska and British Columbia, is so complex that it may take a year to weave a blanket? (157 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:18, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt2 ... that Chilkat weaving, a traditional technique of the Tsimshian, Tlingit, and Haida tribes of of Alaska and British Columbia, is so complex that it may take a year to weave a blanket? (182 characters) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the length. Do I resubmit it or do you just chose from either suggested, alternative hooks? Both seem quite good and concise. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

You don't need to resubmit, we'll just choose a good hook from here. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is the best, I think. Let's go with that. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Length, date, source, hook all check out. I agree, alt 1 is better for a more general audience. FingersOnRoids♫ 21:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BlogShares

... that after realizing the blogosphere was similar to a stock market, Seyed Razavi created BlogShares to allow people to buy shares of blogs with virtual currency?

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 17:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line newspaper source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Harvard Girl

... that the 2000 book Harvard Girl made Chinese college student Liu Yiting a "national superstar" in mainland China?

ALT1:... that in the first eight years after Harvard Girl was published in mainland China, the number of Chinese applicants to Harvard increased tenfold?

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Verified article length and that article moved from user space on March 17. However, re Hook1 the reference does not say that Liu Yiting became a national superstar in China. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/12/31/in_china_ivy_league_dreams_weigh_heavily_on_students/ Re Hook2, article says "The book also had an impact on admissions for Harvard. It made Harvard a household name in China, and books of this genre caused a significant increase in the number of Chinese applicants to top American universities.[1] In 1999, when Liu applied to Harvard, a total of 44 Chinese students applied there; in 2008, 484 did." Therefore, hook2 is not in article. Please show me if I am wrong. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The particular wording "national superstar" is on page 2 of the Boston Globe ref (so if you did a page search just on the first page, you wouldn't have found it). The other refs don't use that exact phrase, but all say pretty much the same thing. As for hook2, I was just considering it simple math; I figured "tenfold" is catchier and hookier than giving the exact numbers. If it's a problem, I can reword the article itself to say tenfold rather than repeating the exact numbers; either way is fine with me. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The way 'national superstar' is used in the article is not an assertion the reference is making. It is a quote from an apparent interview of a Liu-counterpart. Not sure if that helps. ^Law_shoot! 04:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but they're quoting a guy saying something that is widely known and accepted; it's not like he's trying to puff her up more or anything, he's just stating what is common knowledge over there. For more similar refs that are not quotes from people: "household name" (Harvard Crimson), "huge celebrity" (New York Times), "celebrity status" (Harvard Magazine). The claim this hook is making is not a controversial one, and I can easily switch out "national superstar" for one of these equivalent counterparts from a different source. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if you read through the article, you can see that, while the exact phrase "national superstar" might be a quote from a person rather than from the article writer, the article itself is also making the same assertion, just in different words. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 05:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

USCGC Citrus (WLB-300)

... that the USCGC Citrus (pictured) was rammed by the marijuana-smuggling ship MV Pacific Star, which was scuttled by its crew?

ALT1:... that after 51 years in the US Coast Guard, the USCGC Citrus is the armed Almirante Juan Alejandro Acosta in the Dominican Navy?

Created/expanded by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks verified, I prefer the first. Gatoclass (talk) 23:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest adding "ship" between smuggling and MV. JKBrooks85 (talk) 03:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I put "ship" in. KudzuVine (talk) 15:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Starr

... that, despite competing alongside each other for years and holding a tag team championship together, wrestlers Mark Starr and Chris Champion used different last names?

Created/expanded by GaryColemanFan (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is meaningless without mentioning that they're brothers. —97198 (talk) 12:26, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boy, do I feel stupid. I hereby promise not to post any more hook suggestions when I'm that tired. How about "... that, despite competing alongside each other for years and holding a tag team championship together, wrestling brothers Mark Starr and Chris Champion used different last names?"

Alt 2 - "... that, despite competing alongside each other for years and holding a wrestling tag team championship together, brothers Mark Starr and Chris Champion used different last names?" - Just thought this sounded a little better, in my opinion. FingersOnRoids♫ 22:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Why is the article title Mark Starr? Shouldn't it be his real name, with Mark Starr redirecting to it? FingersOnRoids♫ 01:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestling articles Hulk Hogan, The Undertaker, Chris Jericho, and Andre the Giant don't use their subjects' real names either, and neither does Mark Twain, so is Mark Starr any different? Art LaPella (talk) 02:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, you've got a point. I guess I somehow got it into my head that real names are usually used. FingersOnRoids♫ 02:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The most commonly used name is where the article is placed. Since he only wrestled as Mark Starr, that's where I made the article. I like the second alternative hook, but I though a word could be eliminated with Alt 3 - "... that, despite wrestling alongside each other for years and holding a tag team championship together, brothers Mark Starr and Chris Champion used different last names?" GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Length, date, ref for hook all check out. I think Alt 3 is the best. FingersOnRoids♫ 00:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Against All Odds (2005)

... that at Against All Odds (2005) Jeff Jarrett was not allowed to use a guitar as a weapon, so he used a cello instead?

Created/expanded by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 04:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that at Against All Odds (2005), professional wrestler Jeff Jarrett was not allowed to use his trademark guitar as a weapon, so he used a cello instead? (a little more context) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, doesn't bother me any. I forgot to be more out of universe.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 20:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 16

George G. Bingham

... that judge and law school dean George G. Bingham was once the coroner for Yamhill County, Oregon?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 05:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pei Ji (Late Tang)

... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji reassessed the formula for cash-goods conversion to reduce the tax burden on the people?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 18:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Hook is questionable since it references a book Zizhi Tongjian "published in 1084, under the form of a chronicles". —Mattisse (Talk) 21:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Would this alt hook do?

alt ... that according to the Zizhi Tongjian, the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji lowered the assessed value of taxable goods to reduce the tax burden on the people? —Mattisse (Talk) 21:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The obscure phrase "reassessed the formula for cash-goods conversion" turns out to mean "reassessed the value of goods used to pay taxes", so I suggest substituting that phrase. Art LaPella (talk) 02:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrote alt, hopefully OK. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, the article doesn't say "taxable goods". It says "Further, if the people were to submit the products of labor to satisfy their taxes, the conversion formulas into cash were still the ones set early in Emperor Dezong's reign, when those goods cost less in terms of monetary value; therefore, by the time that Pei was chancellor, the burdens of the people were inappropriately high." So it was a primitive barter economy where farmers were likely to pay tax in the form of rice (or whatever they had) because they had no money. The goods were payment for the tax; the goods weren't taxed themselves. Art LaPella (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll propose another alternative myself:

Alt ... that according to the Zizhi Tongjian, the Tang Dynasty chancellor Pei Ji raised the assessed value of goods to avoid undue tax burden on people who paid taxes with goods? --Nlu (talk) 02:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. Art LaPella (talk) 05:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Amelia Van Buren

... that Miss Amelia Van Buren (pictured) is an 1891 painting by the American artist Thomas Eakins depicting one of his most gifted pupils?

Created/expanded by JNW (talk). Nominated by Raul654 (talk) at 17:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Great new article by JNW.Raul654 (talk) 17:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and history verified, offline ref accepted in good faith. I'd suggest the following hook:
ALT1 ... that the woman depicted in the painting Miss Amelia Van Buren (pictured) was one of artist Thomas Eakins' most gifted students? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the title be in italics? Circeus (talk) 23:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good save. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 23:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hobo News, International Brotherhood Welfare Association

... that Hobo News, a newspaper for migratory workers published by the International Brotherhood Welfare Association in the early 20th century, included poems and travelogues as well as news?

ALT1:... that in the early 20th century there were two American newspapers called Hobo News?

Created by Apoc2400 (talk). Nominated by Rjanag (talk) at 13:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the ALT doesn't include a link to IBWA.rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 13:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:*ALT2:... that in the early 20th century there were two American newspapers called Hobo News, one published by the IBWA, a mutual aid society for migratory workers?

(takes care of the problem of no mention of the IBWA) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:29, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and dates of both articles verified. Sources verified. Not entirely comfortable with the http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/7423/streetpapers.html web host of article, but the article looks legitimate. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I found it a bit weird, but I've just been using it as a convenient way to access what otherwise seems like a real journal article. I guess I could go looking for the actual article in a database somewhere, if something lights a fire under me. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 22:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article exists at least, see [5] and scroll down to Dodge, Chris. I don't think there is anything supported only by that reference in any case. --Apoc2400 (talk) 23:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

St Philip's Church, Hove

... that an edition of BBC radio programme Any Questions?, featuring former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was broadcast live from St Philip's Church, Hove (pictured) in 1995?

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line book source for hook accepted on good faith. --—Mattisse (Talk) 23:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Davy Crockett (TV series)

... that the ABC/Disney production Davy Crockett (1954–1955) was the first miniseries in the history of television though the term had not yet been coined?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Considered by whom? Not stated in the article either. Also some concern over the reliability of the sources used aside from the one used to support this fact. —97198 (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correction made Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (TV series)

... that the 1962 ABC sitcom Mr. Smith Goes to Washington featured the final television appearance of the pantomime artist Harpo Marx?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article is too short - only 1351 characters. It must be at least 1500. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It may be 1500 now.Billy Hathorn (talk) 21:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1701. Counting instructions here. Art LaPella (talk) 22:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dante (TV series)

... that the 1960 NBC series Dante, with Howard Duff as a former gambler operating a San Francisco nightclub, was conceived on Dick Powell's Four Star Playhouse?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article is too short - only 1160 characters. It must be at least 1500. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Made

... that Australian Made, a 1987 concert tour promoting "Good Times" and the mateship of nine local acts, was headlined by INXS and ended with two band managers coming to blows?

Created by Shaidar cuebiyar (talk). Self nom at 20:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Sources for hook accepted on good faith, as no one online source seems to contain all the information in the hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brykill Farms

... that the main house at Brykill Farms (pictured) in Gardiner, New York, was expanded in a similar style and material 200 years after the first section was built? Self-nom

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 20:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length and date verified. Hook source accepted on good faith as "error in digital signature" prevented opening of the online source for hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macclesfield Castle

... that in 1932, the porch of Macclesfield Castle in Macclesfield, which dated from the reign of Henry II and was the only standing part of the castle, was dismantled and replaced by cottages and shops?

Created by Nev1 (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Some of the sources for the hook were verified by online link; the rest is accepted on good faith from off line book source. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that the porch of Macclesfield Castle in Macclesfield, dating from the reign of English King Henry II and the only standing part of the castle, was dismantled and replaced by cottages and shops in 1932? (more wikilinks) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The more the merrier. Nev1 (talk)
I'm not sure I agree; why link to "reign"? Punkmorten (talk) 21:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only reason to wikilink is that the DYK instructions encourage wikilinking, I presume because the wikilink popups enrich an obscure one sentence statement for the reader. Perhaps "reign" is unnecessary, but the popup is good. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that most of our readers, i.e. non-registered users, don't have navigation popups. Punkmorten (talk) 22:34, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that most of our readers do not come from countries with "kings" and may not be as familiar as you may be with the associated terminology. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:05, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't imagine an American old enough to read Wikipedia, who hasn't learned words like "reign" from fairy tales like Cinderella. Is that what you mean? Art LaPella (talk) 03:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away

... that Tin Pan Alley song "On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away" by Paul Dresser, was Indiana's first official state symbol?

5x expanded by Charles Edward (talk). Self nom at 18:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that Tin Pan Alley song "On the Banks of the Wabash, Far Away" by Paul Dresser, Indiana's state song, became its first official state symbol in 1913? (includes wikilink to state songs and the date for context) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:26, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per Øisang

... that when Per Øisang hosted the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation's televised election debates in the early 1960s, the questioning of politicians was conducted by other politicians?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line sources for hook in Norwegian accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

::* alt ... that when journalist Per Øisang hosted the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation's televised Norwegian election debates in the early 1960s, other politicians questioned the candidates and not Øisang? (added a little more detail & wikilinks) —Mattisse (Talk) 22:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC) strike per popular request[reply]

I suggest removing the links "journalist" and "Norwegian" as being superfluous. It should be clear anyway that he was a journalist and that the election was Norwegian (why else would it be broadcasted by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation?) Punkmorten (talk) 11:03, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The alt hook reads oddly - it sounds as if the implication is that the politicians should have been interviewing Øisang rather than each other, if that makes sense. —97198 (talk) 12:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leptodirus hochenwartii

... that the blind cave beetle Leptodirus hochenwartii, first found in 1831 in the Postojna cave system, was the first animal recognized as a true cave dweller?

Created by yerpo (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Currently tagged as a stub by the creator. Shubinator (talk) 15:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed the stub tag which was left there from the first (stubby) version, because the article was expanded since. I feel that the article now covers the subject well enough to be marked as "start class". --Yerpo (talk) 15:52, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Online source for hook in Slovenian accepted in good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:03, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that the blind cave beetle Leptodirus hochenwartii, originally discovered in 1831 in the Postojna cave system, was the first animal to be recognized as a true cave dweller? (avoids repetition of the word "first") —Mattisse (Talk) 16:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, this one's better. I also added an english language reference for the fact in the hook. --Yerpo (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Beach

... that James Beach was chosen to run for the Camden County, New Jersey Board of Chosen Freeholders after appearing at a candidate recruitment interview complaining and waving his tax bill?

Created by A Stop at Willoughby (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and online source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:12, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that James Beach was selected to run for the Camden County, New Jersey Board of Chosen Freeholders after appearing at a candidate recruitment interview complaining and waving his tax bill? (guessing that "tax bill" means property taxes and wikilinked it.) —Mattisse (Talk) 16:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Damage a Man Can Do

... that during the filming of Dexter episode "The Damage a Man Can Do", actor Jimmy Smits accidentally stabbed a stunt man with a real knife?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 12:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and online source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 16:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My French Coach and My Spanish Coach

... that the 2007 video game My Spanish Coach contains nearly 10,000 words in the game's dictionary that the player can learn?

5x expanded by Sephiroth BCR (talk). Self nom at 08:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion), date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 15

Rodeo in the United States

... that a rules dispute during the first all-girl rodeo in the United States, in 1948 in Amarillo, Texas, led to formation of the Women's Professional Rodeo Association?

Created by Buttermilk1950 (talk). Nominated by Una Smith (talk) at 14:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length check out. Hook is in the article, but is not specifically sourced. Also, the article recently received a {{POV}} tag from me and may not be suitable for the front page as it is unbalanced. ++Lar: t/c 19:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hook now is specifically sourced. --Una Smith (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 54 is expository text clarifying why another event is not "first"... but as is our practice at DYK, cite to printed source including page number (noted as the same cite as before, just moved to a different location in the sentence) accepted. So, hook, length and source checked out. Article still has major POV issues, but it is technically not disqualified. ++Lar: t/c 23:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kadettangen

... that the peninsula Kadettangen got its name as a site of cadet training, conducted by the Norwegian Military Academy and discontinued from 1896?

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kikuchi clan

... that the Kikuchi samurai clan was descended from the royal family of the Korean kingdom of Baekje?

Created/expanded by Victorblarsson (talk). Nominated by LordAmeth (talk) at 10:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Originally created 22 April 2008; very little change for roughly 1 year until major expansion of 15-17 March 2009LordAmeth (talk) 10:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Off line book sources for hook accepted on good faith. (Editor needs to add page numbers to book references.) —Mattisse (Talk) 21:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic Extremism among British Pakistanis

... that CIA officials are concerned that Islamic Extremism among British Pakistanis is a threat to homeland security in the United States?

Created/expanded by Wikireader41 (talk). Nominated by Boston (talk) at 03:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is currently in AfD debate but I would like it to please be considered if/when it passes. It's a big article, so to make things simple, here and here are inline citations supporting the hook.--Boston (talk) 03:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic Extremism among British Pakistanis If not deleted, it may have a name change. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alla (song)

... that Swedish singer Sofia Berntson's Greek song "Alla" made it to the final of Melodifestivalen 2009, the selection process to choose Sweden's entry in the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest?

5x expanded by Grk1011 (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that Sweden could have been represented in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009 with the Greek song "Alla" sung by Swedish singer Sofia Berntson? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 00:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Evan Turner

... that college basketball player Evan Turner was the only unanimous first-team All-Big Ten Conference selection by both the coaches and the media?

created by Nick22aku (talk). Expanded/Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 07:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Unfortunately I could not verify the hook. Perhaps the nominator could help me out. Also, does the hook say player Evan Turner was the only unanimous selection ever in the conference? Or that season? What is the time period being referred to? —Mattisse (Talk) 16:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

see ref #5.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(revised hook)... that college basketball player Evan Turner was the only unanimous first-team All-Big Ten Conference choice by both the coaches and the media for the 2008–09 Big Ten Conference men's basketball season?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date already verified. Source for revised hook (online sources I cannot read) accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agaricus semotus

... that the edibility of the small woodland mushroom Agaricus semotus (pictured) is disputed, with some sources claiming edibility and others warning of gastrointestinal discomfort?

Created by Scott Mudge (talk). Nominated by Sasata (talk) at 05:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Offline sources for hook taken on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 13:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yu Di

... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor lost his chancellorship in a scandal where he tried to use bribes to obtain a Jiedushi (military governor) position?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I3 requires the hook to link to the article, so ALT1: ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Yu Di lost his chancellorship in a scandal where he tried to use bribes to obtain a Jiedushi (military governor) position? Art LaPella (talk) 02:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oops; missed his name accidentally. --Nlu (talk) 10:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Unfortunately, I could not find the hook in the article although there was discussion of bribes. Also, the hook in the article must have a reference directly after it, even if it means repeating a reference further down in the paragraph. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's the entire second paragraph of the section "After return to Chang'an" with the hook intending to summarize the entire paragraph. --Nlu (talk) 18:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cara Duff-MacCormick and Moonchildren

... that Canadian actress Cara Duff-MacCormick won a Theatre World Award for her role in Moonchildren?

Created/expanded by Nrswanson (talk). Nominated by Boston (talk) at 04:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and dates verified for both articles. Cara Duff-MacCormick verified for hook reference. (Moonchildren does not.) Is it possible to come up with a more interesting hook? What is intriguing or unusual about the winning of a Theatre World Award? —Mattisse (Talk) 22:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do both articles have to mention the hook fact? That can be a difficult requirement in cases and may lead to awkward editing choices just to get articles approved for DYK. If I was to insert the hook fact into the Moonchildren article I would be using the same reference and I don't see the point of it. What we are worried about is errors going on the main page. --Boston (talk) 03:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They don't both need to mention it, if the one article mentions the other article in pretty much the same spot. Both articles do, however, have to be well-referenced in general and all that stuff. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 04:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly more interesting: "... that Canadian actress Cara Duff-MacCormick won a Theatre World Award for her role in Moonchildren, a play about coming of age in the 1960s? --Boston (talk) 04:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
or (following your idea) ... that Canadian actress Cara Duff-MacCormick won a Theatre World Award for her role in Moonchildren, a play about coming of age during the Vietnam War era? —Mattisse (Talk) 21:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the alt hooks above are sufficiently interesting. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence Herkimer

... that Lawrence Herkimer invented the cheerleading jump known as the herkie by accident while a cheerleader at Southern Methodist University in the 1940s?

ALT1:... that Lawrence Herkimer invented the cheerleading jump known as the herkie by accident in the 1940s at SMU, and at age 83 said he could only do one with the assistance of "a crane and piano wire"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hooks verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barryville–Shohola Bridge

... that the Barryville–Shohola Bridge's first three constructed spans were built by the same person in the 1800s?

Created by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 00:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. I could not verify the hook as there is no place in the article that says the first three spans were built by the same person. Also, why is that unusual? —Mattisse (Talk) 01:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its spread through the "First Two Spans" and "The Third Span" as it lists Chauncey Thomas (d. 1882) having done the first three in one way or another. Also, does it always happen when the same person has to build and rebuild the same bridge three times?Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 09:48, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Many bridges have more than one span, so in those cases it would not be unusual. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This bridge has had to be built five times once in 1854, once in 1859, once in 1866, once in 1941, and once in 2007. There's only one span, and its the same bridge.Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 09:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be willing to clarify this in the hook? Perhaps using a less ambiguous word than "span" would help. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:05, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Changed.Mitch32^{(Go Syracuse)} 10:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Cottle

... that, in the 1999 NCAA Division I men's lacrosse tournament, the Loyola Greyhounds under head coach Dave Cottle became the only first-seeded team ever to be eliminated before the semifinals?

Created by Strikehold (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook confirmed. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:23, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discrete Mathematics (journal)

... that the first and so far the only mathematics paper by Bill Gates was published in Discrete Mathematics in 1979?

Created by Igorpak (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article currently isn't long enough for Did You Know, because we don't count lists. See C1. Art LaPella (talk) 21:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected: expanded to the right size. Igorpak (talk) 23:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:29, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that the only mathematics paper by Microsoft CEO Bill Gates, on pancake sorting, was published in Discrete Mathematics in 1979? —Mattisse (Talk) 02:34, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Judah Leib Fishman-Maimon

... ~~that Rabbi Judah Leib Fishman-Maimon emotionally proclaimed the Hebrew blessing of thanksgiving immediately after the promulgation of the Israeli Declaration of Independence?~~

Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 21:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Book source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- An article on the subject already existed at Yehuda Leib Maimon (created October 2006). пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 15:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning, Osher Lifelong Learning Institutes

... that the Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning was an inspiration for Bernard Osher's funding Osher Lifelong Learning Institutes at over 120 universities?

Created by Dwalls (talk). Self nom at 18:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source verified for both articles. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
alt1 ... that the Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning was an inspiration for Bernard Osher's funding Osher Lifelong Learning Institutes offering noncredit courses to adults over age 50?
alt2 ... that the Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning was an inspiration for funding Osher Lifelong Learning Institutes offering noncredit courses to adults over age 50 at over 120 universities? (some interesting details included) —Mattisse (Talk) 17:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the article says "universities and colleges". I am not sure how much the hook must cleave to the article, for the sake of brevity. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt3 ... that the Fromm Institute for Lifelong Learning was an inspiration for Bernard Osher's funding Osher Lifelong Learning Institutes for adults over age 50 at over 120 universities and colleges? — Dwalls (talk) 12:30, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gang Garrison 2

... that the free indie game Gang Garrison 2 adapts the FPS Team Fortress 2 into a 2D, 8-bit styled shooter game, complete with online multiplayer?

Created by Zxcvbnm (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. The hook sounds promotional though. Is there a more interesting or unusual fact for the hook? Perhaps you could elaborate on the Open-source aspect? —Mattisse (Talk) 18:24, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about:

ALT1:... that the indie video game Gang Garrison 2 was developed as part of a competition to create "retro" versions of modern games?

ALT2:... that the indie video game Gang Garrison 2 became so popular that another developer decompiled the source code? (not entirely sure about this one, since I don't know exactly WHO. I would surmise that it was without permission, though, at least at the time.)

or, something that doesn't sound so promotional:

ALT3:... that the indie video game Gang Garrison 2 adapts the FPS Team Fortress 2 into a 2D shooter game with 8-bit graphics?

I would prefer that #3 be used as the most interesting fact is clearly that it turned another game into 2D. --_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 19:50, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 is probably the best. The main problem with the original hook was "complete with...", which is promotion-speak, but ALT3 has removed that. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 20:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt hooks are verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trinity Episcopal Church (Columbia, South Carolina)

File:TrinityEpiscopalChurch.jpg

... that three Wade Hamptons and three South Carolina Governors named Manning are buried at Trinity Episcopal Churchyard in Columbia, South Carolina?

Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 16:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1... Trinity Episcopal Church (pictured) in Columbia, South Carolina is a Gothic revival church designed to resemble York Minster? Awadewit (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to include one similar to Alt 1, but forgot. Thank you. KudzuVine (talk) 21:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reduced relative clause

The garden path effect for the sentence "the florist sent the flowers..."

... that sentences with reduced relative clauses, such as the horse raced past the barn fell, can lead you down a garden path (example pictured)?

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The image wouldn't show up well at 100x100px (although it might still encourage people to click on it and get a better look). I'm assuming we probably won't be able to use it, but if anyone does think it would be ok to use, let me know so I can put in a request at WP:GL/I to have it vectorized.rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dadabhai Naoroji Road (D.N.Road); Flora Fountain

... that Dadabhai Naoroji Road (D.N.Road), in South Mumbai starting in Crawford Market and leading to Flora Fountain at its south end, is studded with neoclassical- and Gothic-style buildings of the 19th century?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Hook is for two articlesNvvchar (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles are verified as to length and date. However, when I was writing India articles, the source for the hook http://www.india9.com/i9show/Dadabhai-Naoroji-Road-64515.htm was not considered a reliable source. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was not aware of this since I had used this web site in the past. Thank you for the information and also for evaluating the above two artciles. I have removed the objectionable references, introduced two new ones and also reordered the references. I hope it meets the requirements. --Nvvchar (talk) 12:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately http://www.indiaseminar.com/2004/542/542%20abha%20narain%20lambah.htm is a 404 link not found. —Mattisse (Talk) 17:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the mixup. The reference is fixed as http://www.india-seminar.com/2004/542/542%20abha%20narain%20lambah.htm now. --Nvvchar (talk) 02:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Completely verified. This is from the book, http://www.india-seminar.com/2004/542.htm —Mattisse (Talk) 21:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.--Nvvchar (talk) 01:52, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Laugh-Out-Loud Cats

... that among other sources, the lolcat-inspired Laugh-Out-Loud Cats comics (pictured) draw from the style of Sidney Smith's 1910s comic strip Old Doc Yak?

Created/expanded by Ragesoss (talk). Self nom at 03:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Verified. The source might qualify as SPS, but I believe that is permissible in this case since it's about the comic's overt influences. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 03:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on March 14

Det Norske Teatret, Hulda Garborg

... that Hulda Garborg was co-founder of Det Norske Teatret (current location pictured), which was established in 1912?

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Det Norske Teatret was created 14 March. Hulda Garborg was expanded 19 March.Oceanh (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hrach Bartikyan

... that Armenian Byzantinist Hrach Bartikyan wrote the introductions and translated select writings of Procopius, Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus, and John Scylitzes from Greek into Armenian? self-nom, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 02:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Golden Ticket (The Office)

... that the Golden Ticket episode of U.S. version of The Office was watched by 7.7 million viewers, tying with Grey's Anatomy for number one among the broadcast networks in adults 18–34?

Created by Hgporto (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 03:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One minor quibble: can this be clarified to "the American version of The Office"? The British one, after all, came first. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. — Hunter Kahn _(contribs) 13:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this really all that interesting? —97198 (talk) 12:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a pretty crazy high rating. But I'm open to alt hooks... — Hunter Kahn _(contribs) 13:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Faith Lutheran College, Redlands

... that Faith Lutheran College, Redlands was the first independent Christian school opened in the Redlands Shire, South-East Queensland?

5x expanded by mattopaedia (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. Hook in article needs a reference citation after it. I tried to download the PDF file referenced at the end of the paragraph, but my browser froze. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:13, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved the reference to the end of the hook. The PDF is 25MB, so you may need to be patient downloading it! Mattopaedia ^{Have a yarn} 04:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Joni (2009)

... that the name Joni was retired, after its previous use?

Created by Jason Rees (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The hook needs more context. Shubinator (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that although the name "Joni" was retired after the 1992–93 South Pacific cyclone season, for unknown reasons it remained on the naming lists to be used again for Cyclone Joni (2009)?
Length and date are verified. Note The article says, This is the second time a cyclone has been named Joni, after last being used in the 1992–93 South Pacific cyclone season.[15] The name Joni was retired after that season as it caused significant damages to Fiji, however for unknown reasons the name Joni remained on the naming lists. However, neither 1992 Pacific typhoon season nor 1993 Pacific typhoon season mention a Cyclone Joni. The article 1997–98 South Pacific cyclone season does list a Cyclone Joni, but does not say the name "Joni" was retired. The source for the hook http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/tcp/documents/TCP24-English2008.pdf does not address this issue. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:19, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me im not quite sure what the issue is as pages 28 -30 of that document does verify, that the name was used in and retired after the 1992-93 South Pacific Cyclone season. Also 1992 and 1993 PTS will not mention a Cyclone Joni as its not relevant to their articles, however it is relevant to the 1990–1995 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone seasons and has a section Also 1997-98 SPAC does not mention a Cyclone Joni as the name was not used in that year Jason Rees (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Little skate

... that the little skate (pictured) pushes itself along the sea floor using a pair of leg-like fin lobes, a mode of locomotion known as "punting"?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Offline source for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Diagram might be better for main page pic. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:50, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

King Solomon's Dome

... that King Solomon's Dome is the mountain believed to be the source of the gold that sparked the Klondike Gold Rush?

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prose size (text only): 1023 B; it must be 1500 characters minimum. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sloat's Dam and Mill Pond

... that Sloat's Dam (pictured) in Sloatsburg, New York, is the only remaining intact dam on the Rockland County stretch of the Ramapo River? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 17:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Verified length and date. Received Java error attempting to access online source, so will accept on good faith. "That stretch" in the hook is somewhat vague. What stretch? What characterizes "that stretch"? —Mattisse (Talk) 17:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure where I was lengthwise, so I left "Rockland County" out. I'll put it back in. I would have said "upper Ramapo River" but that would be technically incorrect since Village of Monroe Historic District uses a picture of another old dam much further upriver. Daniel Case (talk) 16:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Antelope Ground

... that the Antelope Ground, Southampton was a sports ground that featured largely in the early history of both Hampshire County Cricket Club and of Southampton Football Club?

Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 07:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:* ALT1 ... that the first known cricket match was played at Antelope Ground, Southampton, in 1839? (clear to me than figuring out the original hook) —Mattisse (Talk) 18:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - the alternative hook is nonsense. The first known match at the Antelope Ground was in 1839. Cricket had been played elsewhere long before then. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I crossed it out. Maybe some one else can come up with an interesting hook that will make sense to the general reader of the main page. This hook is obscure to most readers, including me and not interesting. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that the Antelope Ground, Southampton was the first home of both Hampshire County Cricket Club and of Southampton Football Club? Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orion P. Howe

... that Orion P. Howe was a 14-year old drummer boy in the Union Army during the American Civil War who was awarded the Medal of Honor after being told to fetch the wrong caliber of cartridge and that he later went to the United States Naval Academy and eventually became a dentist?

Created by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1... that Orion P. Howe remained in battle to report information to his commanders, making him one of the youngest soldiers to earn the Medal of Honor during the American Civil War? (Original hook is well over the 200-character limit.) Awadewit (talk) 14:49, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 2 ... that the dentist Orion P. Howe was awarded the Medal of Honor for his childhood service as a drummer boy for the Union Army during the American Civil War? Or something to that effect. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 15:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 2 is really nice; ~~I'd prefer that one~~. I changed "during the Union Army" to "for the Union Army", as that makes more sense. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 15:29, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To remove the "for his childhood ..." "for the Union Army" repetition, would you accept this? —Mattisse (Talk) 18:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 3 ... that the dentist Orion P. Howe was awarded the Medal of Honor for his childhood service as a Union Army drummer boy during the American Civil War? —Mattisse (Talk) 18:22, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And Alt 3 works just as well, if not better. To whichever person puts this in the queue: Pick whatever you want. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 00:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the third hook. It nicely puts in all the information and is still readable. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Since there's a size limit, I like the third one too. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Agreed. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 22:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's pointless mentioning the fact that he was a dentist as it isn't what he is notable for. Gatoclass (talk) 02:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tanna japonensis

Higashitakane Shinrin-koen (forest park), Kawasaki, Japan, August 1 2006

... that Tanna japonensis (pictured), the Japanese cicada, makes a melancholy sound after sunset, when the temperature has dropped, or when it becomes cloudy?

Created by Chzz (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 13

Islamic Cultural Center of New York

... that the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (pictured)

is the first mosque to be built in New York City? Created/expanded by Malik Shabazz (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and source for hook verified. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the hook should mention the year, as I was surprised it was this recently. ... that the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (pictured) was the first mosque built in New York City, opening in 1991? Grsz¹¹ 23:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good suggestion. I would just move the date a little:

... that the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (pictured), which opened in 1991, was the first mosque built in New York City? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malik Shabazz (talk • contribs) 00:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To be a little clearer, could we not add "purpose-built", as before there were many mosques in buildings not built as such (see NYT ref etc):

ALT ... that the Islamic Cultural Center of New York (pictured), which opened in 1991, was the first purpose-built mosque in New York City? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnbod (talk • contribs) 13:47, March 19, 2009 (UTC)

That works too, although it's less dramatic. ;-) — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 17:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Great Onyx Cave

... that even though the Mammoth Cave system has passages directly beneath Great Onyx Cave, they have never been connected?

Created by Shoy (talk). Self nom at 18:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Off line book sources for hook accepted on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 20:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nation's Giant Hamburgers

... that the current president and CEO of Nation's Giant Hamburgers, a northern California burger chain started working for the company as a janitor during high school in 1961?

~~Created by Troyster87 (talk).~~ Created by NoContaronConMíAstucia (talk). Nominated by Goshagay (talk) at 04:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And this is how sockpuppets get discovered. Troyster87 is an indef-banned sockpuppet of indef-banned Qrc2006 (aka Boomgaylove). This article was created on March 13, after the ban, by NoContaronConMíAstucia who has worked on little besides this article and the sort of SF Bay Area articles that Qrc2006/Boomgaylove can't help but edit. It was nominated, with his first and only edit!, by Goshagay who pulled the Troyster87 name out of apparent thin air. Clearly, this oft-banned editor is unfamiliar with Monty Python's "How Not To Be Seen" sketch. - Dravecky (talk) 05:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, the article? Length and dates check out but the hook fact is referenced to the company's official website. Probably okay in this case as the article itself seems sound. (Part of his pattern is quality editing with a new account before he goes off the rails.) - Dravecky (talk) 05:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you Dravecky, I really try not to go "off the rails" although I take that as a compliment, I'm just a tad bit too impulsive, and can't let go that J Stalin thing, damnit i am going to give em a record contract or get him real press so i can blast his article into quality or get it featured. i really am trying to focus on the quality and not the crazyness. i would really like to get unblocked but quite honestly i cant remember the password to my original accounts (cholga, atacama, qrc2006) but i can easily avoid detection most of the time, if the issue to resolve it my "sockpuppetry" i admit it i guess. if someone else wants to nominate it i dont care about attribution just the dissemination of knowledge abour these delicious burgersGoshagay (talk) 06:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected the credit template above, made a few edits to the article, and had both the creator and the nominator (who are the same person) blocked as sockpuppets. Still, it's a decent enough article, backed by good references, as the work should be respected even if the editor is not to be. (The only sockpuppets I like are on Sifl and Olly.) - Dravecky (talk) 16:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

S. Srinivasa Iyengar

... that India's S. Srinivasa Iyengar resigned as Advocate-General of Madras Presidency and returned his C. I. E. in protest against the Jallianwala Bagh massacre?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 02:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: 5x expansion from 3.9KB to 19.5KBThe Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 02:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

9378/3265 = 2.9x prose expansion. Length is not calculated by the character count that appears in the history of the article, but characters of prose. See here for details. Shubinator (talk) 05:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What do you want me to do? Withdraw my nom? I guess I've had enough of all this crap. I've worked for three days with it and I had a real hard time searching all over the net for references. I have better things to do than expand this article. Thank you for your opinion.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 05:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have 87 DYKs to my credit and was planning to quit Wikipedia after getting to my 100. But this is delaying things for me here.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 05:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear that, but our prose-only and 5x rules are consistently enforced and explained, even though I've criticized the prose-only rule. The previously-written K1 may help explain it. Of course you are welcome to expand the article, or to write a genuinely new article. Art LaPella (talk) 05:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded it quite a bit now. According to this counter, the prose now measures 24514 characters compared to 3530 characters before expansion. If you don't think that's enough do tell me. I'll try to expand it a bit more. -The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 06:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Actually, that counter counts characters but it doesn't distinguish prose, as defined by our Glossary, from non-prose. When counted as described here, the expansion is from 3265 to 15,263, which is 4.67x prose expansion. Occasionally 4.67x expansion is accepted, but not always (as my user page explains, accepting is done by others.) Art LaPella (talk) 15:36, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So what am I to do? If you insist on a 5x expansion, no problems. I'll do it right now.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 07:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's 15,705 bytes of "prose" for a 4.81x expansion. (Once again, others do approvals.) Art LaPella (talk) 02:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just checked it out. It now measures 16,044 bytes. Well, let me look for some more bits and pieces of information on the web.-The Enforcer_{Office of the secret service} 02:48, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medway Maritime Hospital

... that when King Edward VII opened Medway Maritime Hospital in Kent, England, on July 26, 1905, that the main corridor was almost 1,000 feet long?

Created by User:SilkTork (talk). Self nom at 12:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rogue River Ranch

... that the historic Rogue River Ranch located along the Rogue River in southwest Oregon, United States, was acquired by the Bureau of Land Management as part of the National Wild and Scenic Rivers program?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Hook source accepted on good faith, as it is temporarily unaccessible. Hook is not a very interesting fact. Is there not an "interesting" fact in the article? —Mattisse (Talk) 00:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about: ... that archeological evidence shows that Native Americans occupied the Rogue River area around the Rogue River Ranch ~~for~~ over 9,000 years before the first European settlers arrived?--Orygun (talk) 02:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's great. I struck out the "for" in you new hook, as I think it gives the wrong meaning. I am unable to verify the hook, as I cannot reach either of the footnoted reference cites at this time. Also, you need to put a reference right after the sentence that has the hook, even if it is a repetition of a reference at the end of the paragraph. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Both sources are back on-line now. Above fact is mentioned in first paragraph of this source "Rogue River Ranch". Second source is pdf file with more info. Above fact is on pages 1 and 4 of this source "Rogue River Ranch National Historic Site".--Orygun (talk) 00:22, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Salama Mabruk

... that although he was allegedly kicked out of Egyptian Islamic Jihad for his opposition to Osama bin Laden, Ahmad Salama Mabruk was sentenced to death in absentia? (self-nom) Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 14:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ahmad Salama Mabruk has been arrested three times, in connection with the assassination of Anwar Sadat, in the company of Ayman al-Zawahiri and for plotting to blow up an American embassy? Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 19:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. Could not find hook in article; found pieces of each hook but not all of either hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first one is out of order, but the second one is all there. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 04:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... that although Ahmad Salama Mabruk's son was executed by Egyptian Islamic Jihad, he remained devoted to the group and led their Azeri branch? Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 04:37, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Thomas Peniston

... that the 17th century baronet Sir Thomas Peniston received £50 per year as a member of the retinue of Richard Sackville, 3rd Earl of Dorset while his wife, Martha, was the Earl's mistress?

Created by Rjm at sleepers (talk). Self nom at 07:27, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date verified. My problem with the hook is that although he received "£50 per year as a member of the retinue" and his wife Martha later became the Earl's mistress, it is not clear from the article how these two events were related. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from the fact that the Earl presumably got to know her because she was the wife of of one of his retainers, I don't think these two events are related. I didn't intend the hook to imply this. How about "... that the 17th century baronet Sir Thomas Peniston received £50 per year as a member of the retinue of Richard Sackville, 3rd Earl of Dorset at the same time that his wife, Martha, was the Earl's mistress?" I'll take a look at the article text to see if this can be made clearer. Rjm at sleepers (talk) 07:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt "... that the 17th century baronet Sir Thomas Peniston received £50 per year as a member of the retinue of Richard Sackville, 3rd Earl of Dorset and that his wife, Martha, was the Earl's mistress?"Rjm at sleepers (talk) 08:04, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jelgava Palace

... that Jelgava Palace hosts the tomb of the Dukes of Curland where members of the Kettler family were buried in 21 sarcophagi from 1569 to 1791?

Created by Wikiolap (talk). Self nom at 04:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date and source for hook verified if this statement means there were 21 sacophagi: "The Duke Wilhelm’s wife Sophie who died in 1610 also had been buried in Kuldīga castle church was completed; there was a cellar beneath it for the Dukes’ sarcophagi. The cellar premise was about 9 m wide, with a free passage in the middle and covered by a barrel vault. In 1587, the Duke Gotthard was the first to be buried there; 24 members of the Kettler family were buried until 1737." —Mattisse (Talk) 00:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your article says "Of a special historical interest, there is the burial vault of the Dukes of Curland in the south-east basement. It contains 30 buried members of Kettler family - 21 Sarcophagus and 9 wodden coffins. The burials were made from 1569 to 1791." Who are the Kettler family? Perhaps you could come up with a better hook? —Mattisse (Talk) 00:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Cronin

... that Henry Cronin won the Military Cross in the First World War for assaulting several enemy positions despite only being present in the attack to build field defences? - self nom, new article - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amlaíb mac Sitriuc

... that in 1029, the ransom of the Hiberno-Norse prince Amlaíb mac Sitriuc included over 1200 cows, 140 horses, 60 ounces of gold and of silver, "the sword of Carlus" and a large number of Irish hostages?

Created by Grimhelm (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creation date, length, and most facts verified. However, I'm not sure about the "many" Irish hostages part; it's not explicitly stated in the ref that there were "many" (only implied). I'm not knowledgeable about the subject, but I'm thinking we can go ahead and omit that altogether. How about: ALT1: ... that in 1029, the ransom of the Hiberno-Norse prince Amlaíb mac Sitriuc included 1200 cows, 140 horses, "the sword of Carlus" and 60 ounces of gold and silver each? Jamie^☆S93 16:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nixon's Last Press Conference

... that after losing the 1962 race for governor of California, Richard Nixon (pictured) held what he called his "last press conference" promising the media that "you won't have Nixon to kick around any more"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone's on a Nixon kick today.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve a big part of the blame. Besides, it's that much more challenging to kick Dick Nixon around, especially now that he's dead. Alansohn (talk) 19:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I explained to you it is really your fault for being asleep at the switch on Zetterberg and leaving it to me to write his article, which got me into the whole Nixon thing!--Wehwalt (talk) 11:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Love that quote ;) Seriously, good article with exemplary references. Cheers. I'^mperator 13:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Glenmama

... that the Battle of Glenmama in 999 was followed by the immediate occupation of Dublin by Brian Ború's Munster forces?

5x expanded by Grimhelm (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Length (5x expansion) and date verified. I could not find hook in the article so I could not verify it. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's in the third paragraph of the lede: "The battle resulted in the occupation of Dublin by Brian's Munster forces". The references appear in the first paragraph of the "Aftermath" section: "This crushing victory was followed up with an attack on the city of Dublin," a medieval account that states Dublin was occupied from Christmas to February and a 16th century source that "Dublin was only occupied for 'a full week' by Munster forces." The sources corroborating the hook are Donnchadh Ó Corráin, the Cogadh Gaedhel re Gallaibh and the Annals of the Four Masters. :-) --Grimhelm (talk) 14:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

alt ... that two days after the Battle of Glenmama in the Wicklow Mountains (pictured) in 999, Brian Boru's Munster forces occupied the city of Dublin for over a week?
The hook is much the same, but is easier to find and now includes the optional picture. This time the sources cited are the Annals of Ulster and Annals of Inisfallen. --Grimhelm (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

American Summit

... that American Summit in Alaska is the location of what has been called the most remote liquor store in the world?

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 11:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It hasn't, it's been called "one of the most remote" which is the typical sort of weasel wording when no one is sure exactly which is the most remote. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, how about "... that American Summit in Alaska is the location of what has been called one of the most remote liquor stores in the world?" JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Laurelwood Academy

... that Laurelwood Academy moved to Eugene, Oregon, after 103 years in Laurelwood, Oregon, but did not change its name?

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 08:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Perhaps make it clear they moved outside the city?--Wehwalt (talk) 11:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:01, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Jersey Route 158

... that New Jersey Route 158's original designation was New Jersey's only four-digit designation?

5x expanded by Mitchazenia (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

5820/1544 = 3.8x expansion of readable prose. Please continue expansion. Shubinator (talk) 01:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see what's interesting about this hook. Four digits? Punkmorten (talk) 08:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even the largest U.S. states don't use four-digit numbers to designate touring routes (special routes and segment numbers are different, but those aren't used to identify the roads by the public). For a small state like New Jersey to have once done so is really unusual. Daniel Case (talk) 16:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Ralph Mercado

... that salsa music promoter Ralph Mercado got his start with "waistline parties", live music events where women paid based on their waist size (thinner women paid less) and Mercado measuring at the door?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good article and good reference-NYtimes. Cheers. I'^mperator 13:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]