Template talk:Did you know
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Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination. Every approved hook will appear on the main page.
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Articles created/expanded on April 26
Jihadi tourism
- ...
that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and the Al-Quds Mosque Hamburg?
Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Llangadfan and Dyfnant Forest Qrsdogg (talk) 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that popular destinations for Jihadi tourism have included the Tourist Landmark of the Resistance and Somali terrorist training sites? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Per our discussion on Anna's talk page, ALT2:... that destinations for Jihadi tourism have included a war museum and Somali terrorist training sites? Qrsdogg (talk) 04:58, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
- Tweaked hook again. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Wikipedia is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Wikipedia's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much. – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Back to the original comment by Ohiostandrd. What Israel? This article tells nothing about Israel. What POV? There is no any discussion at article talk page. Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
I don't see any significant POV problems in here as Ohio suggests, but I agree with Gato that the article feels a bit unfinished and unstable. Jihadi tourism seems to have a variety of different definitions in these sources, and the article could use some work to resolve what its primary subject is. It's an interesting topic, though, and I'll be interested to see what it can become. --Khazar (talk) 16:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note: Article has survived AFD. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Suggestions: The hook remains problematic to me in that it conflates two quite different definitions from the article--"a term sometimes used to describe tourism involving scenes of conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, or to exhibitions displaying artifacts and images of such struggles" and "travel to foreign destinations with the object of scouting for terrorist training"--and treat them as a single phenomenon--I'm not sure that yoking is supported by the sources yet. The first of these definitions also appears to remain unsourced. Perhaps these problems might be avoided by trimming the hook down to just the
Hamburg mosqueSomali sites and leaving out the "Landmark" entirely?The article also needs to establish that the Tourist Landmark is a "popular" destination for this sort of travel (rather than just an extant one), but this might be fixed by just getting rid of the word "popular" in the hook.Or we could try to find a source that talks about both these definitions as different facets of the same thing. I just want to be sure that we're not building the Frankenstein by conflating two disparate phenomena. But I posted in this AfD debate, too, so I'm glad to step out and let someone approach this with fresh eyes in my place.-- Khazar (talk) 18:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)- Sorry, realized I was responding to the older version. corrected. -- Khazar (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Suggestions: The hook remains problematic to me in that it conflates two quite different definitions from the article--"a term sometimes used to describe tourism involving scenes of conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, or to exhibitions displaying artifacts and images of such struggles" and "travel to foreign destinations with the object of scouting for terrorist training"--and treat them as a single phenomenon--I'm not sure that yoking is supported by the sources yet. The first of these definitions also appears to remain unsourced. Perhaps these problems might be avoided by trimming the hook down to just the
Articles created/expanded on May 3
Tying of the iPhone to AT&T
- ... that when Apple initially released its iPhone in the U.S. on June 29, 2007, it was sold exclusively with AT&T, leading to Tying of the iPhone to AT&T which forced users to purchase AT&T service plans?
Created by Dsayles08. Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
This article was created (as explained on its talk page) for a school project. I'm currently working on merging it into existing articles and it may be deleted in a week or so. The article, and the blurb, seem somewhat POVish as far as being against restrictive policies. If you do use it, I've made some wording changes, primarily to correct U.S.-centricism. HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- As noted on the talk page for this article, the iPhone page has been tagged as being too lengthy already. That, coupled with the fact that this article addresses a major telecommunication policy issue that has wide-reaching implications suggests that it should stand alone. Jaobar (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 5
Rod Thornton
- ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who borrowed a copy of an Al-Qaeda training manual from his University library?
Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Just reviewed St Andrew's School, Pangbourne. Not sure how to show the 'diff' - but I did! Francium12 16:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
length and date OK, references check out, but the hook fact is not is not in the article. i.e. "al-Queada training manual" is not mentioned. SpinningSpark 08:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Doh! Just added and provided a ref. On further reading he downloaded it for his dissertation but it was in the library! Change to ... that a paper by the academic Rod Thornton was censored for criticising the arrest of a student who downloaded an Al-Quaeda training manual available from his University library? Francium12 09:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- The Guardian ref says "Thornton writes that the al-Qaida manual which led to the arrests is now stocked in the university's library" which at least implies that it was not in the library at the time of arrest, and in any event does not entirely verify the hook. I will take it on good faith if you say the offline Thornton ref is more definite on this point, but if the Guardian is accurately reporting Thornton then the hook is wrong. You also need to decide if your spelling is going to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaida SpinningSpark 10:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Snarum Station, Jørgen Rytterager
- ... that farmer Jørgen Rytterager was appointed station master of Snarum Station in 1872?
Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Operation Mallard [1] (ec)
Date and length are fine, offline foreign language hook accepted in good faith. But with only one source for an average-seeming Norweigan station master, does this meet the WP:GNG? -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- The article is well written, but I agree that the notability might be a bit thin here. Does he stick out from thousands(?) of other station masters? Also, is the hook eye-catching in any way? Geschichte (talk) 09:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I do see your points. But Rytterager was not only a station master, he was also a public servant and one of the wealthiest farmers in Buskerud (if not whole Norway) at the time. Also, the source cited in the article is not the only source on this individual, it's just the only source that I've had in my disposition. That journal article also cited many other sources on Rytterager, but I didn't want cite them in the article, as I hadn't seen them myself. I would say, that the fact that the reliable and serious periodical Arkivmagasinet (issued by the National Archival Services of Norway) devoted three pages to an article solely on this station master does make him worthy of an article. Redirecting the article on Rytterager to Snarum Station could be a good compromise, though. As for the hook fact, it was the best that I was able to find. IMHO, It does seem a bit peculiar that a farmer at the decline of his career managed to become a station master at a new railway line. That happening was also the title of the journal article, so I think somebody else would agree. :) --Eisfbnore talk 14:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Eisfborne, it's a well-written article, so I do hope it gets to stay without a redirect. The Arkivmagasinet source you name seems like an excellent start, but my understanding of the notability guidelines is that a second source wholly or partially dedicated to Rytterager will need to go into the article to demonstrate notability. I'm less up on the GNG than many others here, though, so what I'll do is leave my question mark up and let this catch the attention of a more experienced editor than I to make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I see the peculiarity a bit better now. But when you say "he was also a public servant", what kind of servant? Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- I do see your points. But Rytterager was not only a station master, he was also a public servant and one of the wealthiest farmers in Buskerud (if not whole Norway) at the time. Also, the source cited in the article is not the only source on this individual, it's just the only source that I've had in my disposition. That journal article also cited many other sources on Rytterager, but I didn't want cite them in the article, as I hadn't seen them myself. I would say, that the fact that the reliable and serious periodical Arkivmagasinet (issued by the National Archival Services of Norway) devoted three pages to an article solely on this station master does make him worthy of an article. Redirecting the article on Rytterager to Snarum Station could be a good compromise, though. As for the hook fact, it was the best that I was able to find. IMHO, It does seem a bit peculiar that a farmer at the decline of his career managed to become a station master at a new railway line. That happening was also the title of the journal article, so I think somebody else would agree. :) --Eisfbnore talk 14:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- The article is well written, but I agree that the notability might be a bit thin here. Does he stick out from thousands(?) of other station masters? Also, is the hook eye-catching in any way? Geschichte (talk) 09:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base
- ... that in just over two years in World War II, Régiment de Chasse 01/030 Normandie - Niémen destroyed 273 enemy aircraft and received the awards from both the French Légion d’Honneur and the Soviet Order of the Red Banner?
Created by DeltaQuad (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Bolded the topic for this one and wikilinked. Also supplied the "?" for the hook. However, there are two redlinks at intro of article. Either remove the redlinks or provide the pages for those two please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Incorrect. There is no rule against redlinks in the nominated article. Manxruler (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry the bold was just from the article itself not on purpose...and there is not a redlink in the nom, why is the article required not to have them? (If it is a rule) -- DQ (t) (e) 11:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Bolding of the nominated article is required. What is not correct is AnakngAraw's claim that redlinks in the article itself are undesirable. Redlinks don't belong in the hook, but in the article they're all good. Manxruler (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Then are we good to go? -- DQ (t) (e) 17:23, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not really. I don't understand the hook (which I have just copy-edited for typos). How can an air base destroy 273 aircraft? Airbases don't usually destroy aircraft. And this airbase wasn't even in existence in 1943-45. Who actually shot down the 273 aircraft, and what does it have to do with the base? Manxruler (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Just reread my source (since I did this six months ago), it was the unit that helped with the closing of the base. ajusted entry. -- DQ (t) (e) 19:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. I saw that you had been working on this article for quite some time in your user space, which is of course perfectly well. The problem here is that the hook you are promoting, is not at all about this air base, but about the Normandie-Niemen squadron, which already has its own article. There's no way this hook can be used. Manxruler (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, sounds ok, thanks for the help though. -- DQ (t) (e) 23:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. There's still some time, if you'd like to come up with a different hook. Manxruler (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Article says "The actual construction of the Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base began in 1951," and adds this base was active in WWII, used by the Free French. Wikimapia for the same location says "French Air Force Base 132 (Base aérienne 132), home to fighter squadron 1/30 "Alsace" and fighter squadron 2/30 "Normandie Niemen", created in 1943 for Free French pilots flying against the Germans in Russia." I am confused by the difference in construction date, start of war and disagreement with other source. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 6
Women in Northern Cyprus
- ... that among female Northern Cypriots (pictured) in 2010, only seven had ever held high-level positions in the Parliament of Northern Cyprus?
Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed the article: Lumír Ondřej Hanuš - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1: that since 2010, there had only been seven women in Northern Cyprus (pictured) who became high-level members of the Parliament of Northern Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Somebody marked the source for the hook as unreliable besides I could not find a confirmation in the source that supports the hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Suggesting ALT 2: ... that Gönül Başaran Erönen is the first female justice of the Supreme Court in Cyprus? - AnakngAraw (talk) 13:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment Alt 2 is verified, but I am still do not feel comfortable to promote the article with unreliable source for another information. Maybe somebody more experienced than I am could take a look.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Women in Laos
- ... that in Lao Buddhism, the women of Laos (pictured) are taught that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men?
Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, hook, and source all check out. All that needs to be done now is a review of another article. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
A have a few issues with this article. [source 1] looks like a blog and there are two sections (Marriage/Sexuality) that have only one sentence. --Guerillero | My Talk 03:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
- I reviewed the article: Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, you have a point. I didn't catch it as a blog earlier. However, the two sections that have only one sentence don't seem to conflict with DYK requirements; the overall article size still checks out, as do the newness and hook items. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was able to address the ref issue for the hook by replacing it with this book. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Replaced the blog ref with the Lonely Planet book from which it was based on or copied from. Found it from googlebooks. Ref is now valid source for whole article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Alrighty then. With that issue resolved, this looks good to go for real. --Starstriker7(Talk) 05:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- The picture does not picture "women of Laos," it pictures one woman. I have no problem with this moving forward without the image, however, I express reservations of promoting it with an incorrectly labeled picture. BelloWello (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Replaced the image with two "women from Laos" from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Rollover captions changed as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for prompt attention. Probably unnecessary since the chance of it being featured as the image is slim, but something that caught my attention anyway. BelloWello (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Rollover captions changed as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Replaced the image with two "women from Laos" from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
<- I'm not convinced it's a good hook. Obviously there's a difference between the cultural belief system/traditions of Theravada Buddhism and being actively taught something by someone. I'm curious where these women of Laos are being actively taught that that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men. It seems to me a bit like saying that women of the U.S. are taught that they can only get to heaven if they go to church etc. I'm not sure that Lonely Planet is an appropriate source for sweeping statements like this. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Sean that this is a fairly sweeping claim to rely on LP for. (Honestly, I barely trust LP to get me to local bars). Would it be possible to source this to a more academic work? This reservation aside, thanks for creating all these women of articles, AnakngAraw. It's a good area to look at and I look forward to seeing how they develop. -- Khazar (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 7
Krotite
- ... that the newly discovered mineral krotite was one of the earliest minerals formed in the solar system?
Created by Tmangray (talk). Nominated by Bender235 (talk) at 07:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
This is a fascinating hook, but the prose portion of the article is under 1500 characters. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Distributed backbone
- ... that a Distributed backbone is a backbone network that consists of a number of connectivity devices connected to a series of central connectivity devices?
Created by Bencst13 (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Good work so far, but this article is too short, as it is at 1,089 characters. There's still time for you to expand it, though. Please get the article's prose sections up to 1,500 characters (headers and citations do not count toward the characters). Keep at it, and this will qualify when you add more info! OCNative (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8
Norbert M. Samuelson
- ... that Arizona State Jewish studies professor Norbert M. Samuelson, who lectures at university-level conferences around the world, gives a weekly class on Maimonides' Mishneh Torah to rabbis in Phoenix?
- Reviewed: Gidleigh Park ([2])
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by DGG (talk), Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 15:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note: We expanded this article while it was at AFD. The AFD should be closing with a positive outcome in the next day or two. Yoninah (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Stanislao Gastaldon
... that Stanislao Gastaldon's song "Musica proibita" has been recorded by such famous tenors as Enrico Caruso (in 1917), Mario Lanza (in 1952), Luciano Pavarotti (in 1984), and Andrea Bocelli (in 2002)?
5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 09:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that "Musica proibita" by Italian composer Stanislao Gastaldon (pictured) was the first of six songs for which he also wrote the lyrics under the pseudonym "Flick-Flock"?
- Prefer this one. More interesting, I think and I'd have to individually reference all the various singers. Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I like the alt hook better too, and I crossed out mine. I reviewed Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge ([3]).4meter4 (talk) 09:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Just a note for the reviewer, the ALT 1 hook and its citation can be found in the 4th sentence of the paragraph immediately following the lyrics excerpt in the section "Musica probita". – Voceditenore (talk) 10:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. However, citations are missing for several chunks of text. Under "Life and Career": end of second paragraph, all of third paragraph. "Other Songs": whole paragraph. After you add citations, it's ready to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've added yet more. There are now 23 inline cites in this article. Is this OK? Voceditenore (talk) 16:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Camp Ashraf massacre
- ... that in the Camp Ashraf massacre, the Iraqi Army used armed force against unarmed civilians, killing 34 people and injuring another 318?
- Reviewed: Central Committee of Polish Jews[4]
Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, size check out. The subject seems controversial but the refs seem reliable (for recent news) and AGFed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)
- ... that although Ray Charles and Nancy Sinatra solos of "Here We Go Again" made Billboard's Hot 100, Charles' 2004 duet with Norah Jones won 2 Grammy Awards but was the second Record of the Year not to?
- Reviewed: Depot Town
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
High performance technology
- ... that high performance computing systems have shifted from supercomputing to computing clusters and grids?
Created by Ledraisel (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 21:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and hook all check out. Ready to go. CrossTempleJay talk 22:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Can we look at this again? The title is High performance technology so this should include advanced balsa modelling, quick cooking macaroni etc. And are we saying this is the first wikipedia article on "high performance computers"? I'm sure Ive seen somethuing on that subject here before. Can a 3rd party do a review please. Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District
- ... that the Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District in rural Connecticut preserves a site where thousands of New York City women were given summer vacations during 1892 to 1945?
Created by Doncram (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed Looks good to go. Interesting fact. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 07:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be very happy if anyone would care to write a more fun hook. This blog picked up on a few hook-like factoids; i didn't want to straight copy theirs tho. --doncram 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- The name of the article by itself creates a pretty effective hook! :-) --Orlady (talk) 14:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be very happy if anyone would care to write a more fun hook. This blog picked up on a few hook-like factoids; i didn't want to straight copy theirs tho. --doncram 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Before this can be promoted, the hook needs formatting; insert relevant wikilinks, bold for the target article. You may find it easier to use this template for future nominations. Schwede66 22:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for commenting. Okay, I bolded the target article now. I am not keen on wikilinking "Connecticut" and other stuff not germane to the article; i just prefer not wikilinking in this hook. Maybe for a different/better hook. --doncram 03:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have a minor concern with the wording of the hook. The concern is that National Register historic districts don't actually preserve anything. Accordingly, I suggest a minor rewording:
- ... that the Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District in rural Connecticut is a site where thousands of New York City women were given summer vacations during 1892 to 1945? --Orlady (talk) 17:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Uncle Yo
- ... that comedian Uncle Yo specializes in performing at geek events such as anime conventions?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note that the article was created in the sandbox and only now moved to the mainspace, so the (mainspace) creation date is indeed May 8. It is my understanding that this fulfills "creation" criteria.
- Reviewed #FCC v. AT&T Inc.
Date ok, squeaks in on length, but I agree with the references tag on the article that this does not yet appear to meet notability. Suggest adding significant third-party sources to demonstrate notability if possible. --Khazar (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree with the templates: majority of the refs are secondary sources that I believe demonstrate notability. A disagreement can be discussed on talk or at AfD, but till an AfD puts this nom on hold I'd like this not to hold up a DYK nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- My initial impression would be that only the two blog posts here would count as truly "secondary" sources, as the others appear to be press releases or announcements for where Uncle Yo will be appearing. I'm sorry to say I'm not convinced this meets the notability threshold for reliable secondary sources, and my understanding of the DYK guidelines is that an article that hasn't met the source policies isn't ready to be approved. The best I can say is that if another editor wants to give this approval, I won't block her/him. Or if you can find some more clean-cut examples of reliable secondary sources--or explain how these sources are--I'm game for reconsidering. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Khazar (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think a blog (interview) is used only for one of the nineteen footnotes. Almost all content is referenced with what I think are proper secondary sources - Anime News Network news portal or convention websites. I am open for further discussion of the reliability of the sources at WP:RSN, as mentioned on talk, but I'd hate for this article to be denied DYKing because we are discussing the sources (hence, I'd also welcome a quick AFD "trial by fire" discussion, which IIRC puts DYKs on hold). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- On hold for AfD discussion. This article appears to meet all other DYK criteria, and if it passes AfD, Piotrus is welcome to change my vote to "approve" without checking with me first; notability is my only concern here. -- Khazar (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think a blog (interview) is used only for one of the nineteen footnotes. Almost all content is referenced with what I think are proper secondary sources - Anime News Network news portal or convention websites. I am open for further discussion of the reliability of the sources at WP:RSN, as mentioned on talk, but I'd hate for this article to be denied DYKing because we are discussing the sources (hence, I'd also welcome a quick AFD "trial by fire" discussion, which IIRC puts DYKs on hold). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- My initial impression would be that only the two blog posts here would count as truly "secondary" sources, as the others appear to be press releases or announcements for where Uncle Yo will be appearing. I'm sorry to say I'm not convinced this meets the notability threshold for reliable secondary sources, and my understanding of the DYK guidelines is that an article that hasn't met the source policies isn't ready to be approved. The best I can say is that if another editor wants to give this approval, I won't block her/him. Or if you can find some more clean-cut examples of reliable secondary sources--or explain how these sources are--I'm game for reconsidering. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Khazar (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I disagree with the templates: majority of the refs are secondary sources that I believe demonstrate notability. A disagreement can be discussed on talk or at AfD, but till an AfD puts this nom on hold I'd like this not to hold up a DYK nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Head Standard
- ... that the success of the Head Standard, the first modern downhill ski design, propelled Head to be the largest ski company in the world by the 1960s?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.
- No, this image will never work at 100px, whichever orientation you choose. Schwede66 22:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.
Great Anatolia Party
- ... that logo of the Great Anatolia Party of Turkey was consisted from a perforated drum and a leaping jaguar in the drum hole?
Created by Logom (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
While an apparently notable subject, and sufficient in length and date, both the hook and article will need substantial grammatical cleanup to be ready for the front page. I'm sorry I can't help out more with this, Logom. I started in on the article but at times had difficulty determining the intention of the sentences. Since the given sources are in Turkish, I couldn't go to those either. Perhaps another bilingual editor could help this one? -- Khazar (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 9
Mark Edward
- ... that mentalist Mark Edward credits films such as 1947's Nightmare Alley as motivating him to work in the psychic entertainment area?
Created by Sgerbic (talk). Nominated by Krelnik (talk) at 23:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Length and date good... but we generally don't accept YouTube links as reliable sources due to possible copyright problems. Also, seems to be quite a few lists that could be turned into prose. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
OZ Group
- ... that the wheel supplier for the Toyota Celica that brought Carlos Sainz his first WRC title in 1990 started out in a filling station near Venice just 19 years earlier?
Created by Danno uk (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- edited to reduce overlinking Ohconfucius ¡digame! 16:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
All the citations are to the company website. Please find alternate references. I'm sure there must be news or magazine stories on an F1 wheel manufacturer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Regstuff (talk • contribs) 05:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
West Bengal elections
- ... that the Communist Party of India (Marxist) loses power in West Bengal for the first time in decades following an election?
- ALT1: ... that the Trinamool Congress wins power in West Bengal for the first time in decades following an election
- or obviously as per the results indicate, though its highly leaning towards the cpim losing..
Created/expanded by Lihaas (talk), Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- The article was previously nominated upon creation but i was told by whoever is the guy who runs DYK (forget the name) to renom at election results time. Elections results come in on the 13 May morning India time, within 12 ohours of which it should be updated (certainly by 24 hours) with results and MP details. Also the current tag/s on the page will be sorted by then.
- I reviewed Craig Whyte.Lihaas (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- WP:CRYSTALBALL. You can't put out hooks about possible future events, there is no way you can guarantee the accuracy of this. In short, there is no point in formulating a DYK proposal about results that hasn't occured yet. --Soman (talk) 03:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thats why there is an alternative.
- I was going to suggest "carried over 6 phases and a month," but we did the same blurb for bihar last year so i opted for some variety.
- also, i think both will only be posted AFTER updates, so we have to wait for results anywaysLihaas (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- crystall ball, eh? ;)Lihaas (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, you posted the hook on May 9, four days before the counting of the votes started to be counted. There was no way that hook could have been sourced at that point, as it involved speculation about future events. As per the wording of the hook, there is also the experience of UF gov'ts in West Bengal a few decades ago. --Soman (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
This is no longer eligible for DYK, as West Bengal state assembly election, 2011 is currently the featured article in the lead hook on In the news ("In a state assembly election held in West Bengal, India, the world's longest-serving democratically elected communist government loses power."). Per the DYK rules: "Articles that have been featured on the main page's In the News section are not eligible. If an article is linked to at ITN but not the featured ITN article, it is still eligible for DYK." Sorry about the DYK; congratulations on the ITN. OCNative (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on May 10
Bill Thieben
- ... that former basketball player Bill Thieben is considered the first "big man" in Hofstra University history?
- Reviewed: Yan Yan Chan
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
The hook, the length and the date are verified.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
VX-6
- ... that the first people to visit the South Pole since Robert Falcon Scott (1912) arrived in 1956 in a U.S. Navy R4D Skytrain (pictured) of the VX-6 squadron?
- Reviewed: Wildlife of Zimbabwe ([[5]])
Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
The reference quoted for this fact, [6], seems to be a self-published source, can a more reliable source be found? Quasihuman (talk) 22:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Two additional (reliable) sources provided. DiverDave (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
All ok now, everything else checks out. Quasihuman (talk) 11:34, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Poison affair of Palestinian schoolgirls
- ... that after hundreds of Palestinian schoolgirls came down with unexplained symptoms Yasser Arafat accused Israel in "planned and systematic crime" against Palestinian people?
- Reviewed: I have less than 5 DYK
Created by ברוקולי (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- The neutrality is disputed. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I agree that this article has substantial POV problems. The story is written almost entirely from the POV of an Israeli think tank, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. There is unfortunately an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the submission of POV articles from a certain political faction at this project, and I think we are going to have to start taking some steps to address this problem. Gatoclass (talk) 02:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think the actual problem is "an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the spurious rejection of legitimate articles from a certain political faction at this project." Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't say it's sourced "almost entirely" to the JCPA, but the "Media reports" section and the absence of scholarly commentary are enough to disqualify the article. I did a cursory GBooks search for the purpose of establishing notability, and there appears to be more than enough material to cover the incident in a neutral fashion. There are psychology books discussing the incident in the context of other "hysterias"; there's that Psychiatric Quarterly source that is linked but not cited. But instead, we choose to make it about how the media hates Israel, oh no, and isn't it funny how this is sourced to self-published "reactions" from conservative think tanks like the Hudson Institute and the JCPA. Fix it up, please. It's okay, not every anti-Arab article has to be featured on the front page. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Arafat falsely accuses the Israelis of poisoning little Palestinian schoolgirls and now somehow this is an "anti-Arab" article? Enough of WP:IDONTLIKEIT for one day. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I propose an alternative. "Did you know that after Palestinian schoolgirls began fainting in 1983 in a case of mass hysteria, Israeli army officials falsely accused Palestinian leaders or poisoning their own people to spark an uprising?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Arafat falsely accuses the Israelis of poisoning little Palestinian schoolgirls and now somehow this is an "anti-Arab" article? Enough of WP:IDONTLIKEIT for one day. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
I have done a lot of work improving the prose and content of this article. An accurate summary (and an interesting one!) would be: "Did you know that in 1983 943 people -- most of them Palestinian girls -- from the West Bank were hospitalized in a fainting epidemic brought on by mass hysteria?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Wellington R. Burt
- I'll leave it to someone else to write the hook. Wellington_R._Burt#Will is particularly interesting in that it took 92 years for his final will to play out.
Created by Green Cardamom (talk). Nominated by Hammersoft (talk) at 15:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the nom, Hammersoft.
- hook:
- ...
that industrialist Wellington R. Burt, once among the richest Americans, wanted his fortune to be given in 2010 (92 years after his death) to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime? (191 char)- ...
that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime; his will's conditions were met in 2010—92 years after his death? 194 char- ... that one of the wealthiest 19th C Americans, Wellington R. Burt, left a "spite-clause" in his will so that his heirs did not receive his $100 million fortune until 2011, 93 years after his death?
- Green Cardamom (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- 194 char
"Burt's will stipulated the majority of the estate to be held in a trust until "21 years after [the death of] my last surviving grandchild [who was alive] at the time of my death", which just happened to be 2010 (92 years after his death). Reword of the hook needed.
Article size and date verified. --Redtigerxyz Talk 10:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- OK - use the recommendation made by OCNative (ALT2), thanks. Green Cardamom (talk) 15:51, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- modified again. Or use one of the previous. Green Cardamom (talk) 01:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I saw this story in the news. Date, length, and refs for the article check out, but I think the hook doesn't quite state what you meant to say, as it sounds like you're saying he specifically designated 2010 or specifically designated 92 years after his death, so how about:
ALT1:... that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime, with the fortune distributed in 2010, 92 years after his death?
or
ALT2:... that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime; his will's conditions were met in 2010—92 years after his death?
OCNative (talk) 10:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Royal Palaces of Abomey
- ... that according to folklore, descendents of the royal family of Abomey who built the Royal Palaces of Abomey (pictured) in Benin are the progeny of Princess Aligbonon of Tado and a panther?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Tibetan Prayer (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Comment. The article was moved from user page to main space on 10 May 2011.--Nvvchar. 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Nosson Meir Wachtfogel.--Nvvchar. 14:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- ready to go. Dincher (talk) 23:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Nosson Meir Wachtfogel
- ... that Rabbi Nosson Meir Wachtfogel, mashgiach (spiritual supervisor) of the Lakewood Yeshiva, was so removed from worldly concerns that he called his house an "inn" and his furniture "lumber"?
- Reviewed: Wir müssen durch viel Trübsal, BWV 146 ([7])
Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:
... that Rabbi Nosson Meir Wachtfogel, studying in Kelm, Lithuania when WWII broke out, escaped via the Trans-Siberian Express to Vladivostok, a steamer to Australia, and an airplane to Montreal?Yoninah (talk) 12:05, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date and hook references 2 and 14 are all fine. I prefer the original hook. Very interesting article. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 14:03, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT1:
Zaw Htet Ko Ko
- ... that Zaw Htet Ko Ko, a photographer for the pro-democracy 88 Generation Students Group, is serving an 11-year prison sentence for his involvement in Burma's "Saffron Revolution"?
- Reviewed: Amina Bokhary controversy
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
length, date and hook seems okay. Monkeymanman (talk) 17:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Craig Whyte
- ... that Scottish businessman Craig Whyte, who recently bought the controlling interest in Rangers Football Club, was Scotland's youngest self-made millionaire in 1997 at the age of 26?
- ALT1:... that Scottish businessman Craig Whyte bought the controlling interest in Rangers Football Club from David Murray for £1?
- Reviewed: Zaw Htet Ko Ko
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Monkeymanman (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Size is good; little less than a 2x expansion ( on 6 may it was 3500 and today its 5500), although it has been well-cited so i think a little lewway might be okay; hook is okay, thouigh id suggest the second one as the first ahas the vague "recently" (although the specific date could be mentioned). Otherwise the article should be good to go pending a city for the sentence "In April 2011, a £28 million deal was thought possible, but depended on agreements on how to service the club's debt (with Lloyds Banking Group), and a £58 million tax bill with HMRC."Lihaas (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- i have added a ref for the sentence, and also included the most recent statement on the tax issue. We could go with the second hook if you prefer but i just thought that the fact that he was Scotlands youngest self made millionaire would be less well known than the widely publicised takeover. Monkeymanman (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- seems good to go now. Although as this is my firs t review im not sure if the 2x requirement (which is slightly less) can be passed. Can someone else confirm this? Otherwise the article meets everythingLihaas (talk) 18:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- okay expanded it by about another 1000. Should be cool now.Monkeymanman (talk) 18:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Lihaas (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Titanomyrma
- ... that the discovery of the fossil giant ant Titanomyrma (pictured) in Wyoming indicates that warmth-loving fauna spread through the north between Europe and America during hot spells in the Eocene?
- Reviewed: Refugee Board (Ghana)
5x expanded by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Added a free image uploaded by User:FunkMonk. AshLin (talk) 05:59, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Suggested alt1="... that the discovery of the hummingbird-sized fossil ant Titanomyrma (pictured) in Wyoming indicates that warmth-loving fauna spread through the north between Europe and America during hot spells in the Eocene?" AshLin (talk) 06:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
- Further expansion by User:Stemonitis and image addition by User:FunkMonk. Recommend credit for DYKMake to them also. AshLin (talk) 06:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:Expansion length, date, and all details of both hooks check out. I do vote for the simpler first hook, but either works fine. Nice expansion on an interesting topic. -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Here We Go Again: Celebrating the Genius of Ray Charles
- ... that Willie Nelson, Wynton Marsalis and Norah Jones recorded a live tribute album covering songs of Ray Charles?
Created by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, ref and hook check out. Good to go. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 02:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Music Beta by Google
- ... that Androids can now play streamed music using Music Beta by Google?
Created by Logan (talk). Nominated by ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) at 04:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
The creation and reference check out, but I'd suggest that instead of "Androids" that "Android devices" or some similar phrase be used. Imzadi 1979 → 07:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was being a bit deliberate with the ambiguity there, in the hope of tempting more readers in through sheer blazing curiosity, but if you'd really rather change it, please go ahead. :o) Pesky (talk …stalk!) 06:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The term "androids" implies robots not phones, and since this isn't being nominated for April Fool's Day, that level of deceptive ambiguity isn't exactly appropriate the other 364 days of the year, IMHO. Unfortunately, the news will be very stale by the next AFD for 2012, so I'd change the hook and run it now instead of leaving it and holding it for AFD 2012. Imzadi 1979 → 11:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ha, I hope that this DYK doesn't get postponed until April Fools' Day 2012. My view - I think that Android devices would be a bit less ambiguous, as Imzadi1979 said. But, then again, I do think that "Androids" is pretty catchy ;) Logan Talk Contributions 01:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Seems OK to me, with the capital 'A' - ie, I don't find it too ambiguous, but reasonably 'tempting'. But if Imzadi1979 or others object, perhaps you could make an alternative suggestion? Cheers, Chzz ► 01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Pain fitzJohn
- ... that the Anglo-Norman administrator Pain fitzJohn (died 1137) was once called a "second-class baron and a first-class civil servant"?
- Reviewed: William F. Raynolds ([8])
5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Offline hook accepted AGF. The hook kind of gives the impression that he was called that by a contemporary, though. 5x expansion checks out. Nice job. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 11
Federico Fernández Cavada, Adolfo Fernández Cavada
- ... that Federico Fernández Cavada (pictured), the Commander-in-Chief of all the Cuban forces during Cuba's Ten Years' War against Spain, as well as his brother Adolfo, were both former Union Army officers and U.S. Consuls in Cuba?
Created by Marine 69-71 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:09, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
List of accolades received by Winter's Bone
- ... that 20-year-old Jennifer Lawrence's Best Actress Academy Award nomination, which made her the second youngest nominee ever in that category, was one of a number of accolades received by Winter's Bone?
Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Everything seems to check out, but I recommend rephrasing the hook, because "Winter's Bone awards" sounds like the name of an award (like the Academy Awards) rather than awards received by a particular film. I can't quite formulate it though, maybe someone else can help. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have changed it to "the Winter's Bone accolades". Is that better? Crystal Clear x3 02:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Eh, same problem. How about:
ALT1: ... that 20-year-old Jennifer Lawrence's Best Actress Academy Award nomination, which made her the second youngest nominee ever in that category, was one of a number of accolades received by Winter's Bone? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Kelly Cherry
- ... that Kelly Cherry, author of We Can Still Be Friends, was named the Poet Laureate of Virginia in 2010?
Created by Ijil RHG (talk). Nominated by Patrickneil (talk) at 19:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry; not yet. The prose section contains fewer than 1500 characters. The lists are not included in the count. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Also, the picture is missing a copyright tag. —Bruce1eetalk 11:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Alexi Salamone
- ... that Ukrainian-born Alexi Salamone, a gold medalist for the United States at the 2010 Winter Paralympics, was adopted by a family from Buffalo, New York at the age of six?
- Reviewed: Andreacarus voalavo, Voalavo gymnocaudus ([9])
Created by Basement12 (talk), Unablemanager (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
no problems©Geni 20:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Gandhi Sagar Dam
- ... that construction of the Gandhi Sagar Dam (pictured) in India was initiated when the foundation stone was laid by the then Prime Minister of India Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru on 7 March 1954?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good article. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Peter Velappan.--Nvvchar. 08:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Bride-buying
- ... that bride-buying, a form of marriage of convenience, is an old tradition in India and China that is still practiced today?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed: Carex riparia [10]. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
. Length, date and references verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 09:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Hm.. AnakngAraw, again, it is great that you started this topic, but you just scooped a top of it. The hook translates into "... that women are being mishandled in India and China?" - a slap to countries which are picked up only because the article is limited to them. I believe we need something more neutral. Materialscientist (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- You have a point. Thanks. I am then suggesting ALTs 1 and 2:
- ALT 1: ... that bride-buying is an illegal industry of purchasing a bride to become property that can be resold or repurchased for reselling?
- ALT 2: ... that bride-buying is an illegal trade of purchasing a bride and a form of marriage of convenience? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- You have a point. Thanks. I am then suggesting ALTs 1 and 2:
Carex riparia
- ... that Carex riparia (pictured), a Eurasian plant up to 130 cm (51 in), is Britain's largest sedge?
- Reviewed: Lacandon Jungle ([11])
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, hook, ref seems fine to me. Good to go. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Word count at 1896 [no spaces]/2283 [with spaces] characters. - AnakngAraw (talk) 11:13, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Ghana Immigration Service
- ... that prior to Ghana's independence, the Ghana Immigration Service was known as the Immigration and Passport Unit and was a unit under the Colonial Police Force of the Gold Coast?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Review KOI-428
Size, date, hook, all check out. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
National Disaster Management Organization
- ... that in March 2011 Ghana's National Disaster Management Organization announced it would establish five camps in the regions that shared border with the Cote d'Ivoire for refugees?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics [[12]]
Ghana Prisons Service
- ... that in 2007 it was announced that the Ghana Prisons Service would change its name to Correctional Service of Ghana?
Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- I Reviewed triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics [[13]]
Date, length OK. I'm just wondering if there are any other refs that talk about the prison service to provide notability? Also, the hook says pretty much the same thing as the hook now being featured on the Main Page, on the Ghana National Fire Service. Any other ideas? Yoninah (talk) 13:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics
- ... that competitors in triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics will have to tackle the Serpentine, visit a palace, and cycle through Wellington?
- Reviewed: Linwood Pendleton ([14])
5x expanded by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, hook all check out. Ready to go!!! CrossTempleJay talk 13:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
SS Santa Kyriaki
- ... that over 70,000 cubic yards (54,000 m3) of sand was excavated to extricate the Liberian steamship Santa Kyriaki from a beach in the Netherlands?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
M-134 (Michigan highway)
- ... that M-134 is one of three state highways in Michigan on an island, and one of two to use a ferry (pictured)?
- Reviewed: diff
- Comment:
I'm working on getting a photo of the ferry released for usage in the article, and the hook.Photo added and available now. Imzadi 1979 → 07:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Refs to the two parts of hook are accepted in good faith. Length checks out; as does age. Looks like you've reviewed an article already, and I don't see anything to go against Wikipedia's major policies. Good to go. --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Khun Htun Oo
- ... that Khun Htun Oo, a former head of Burma's Shan Nationalities League for Democracy, is now serving a 93-year sentence for treason?
- Reviewed:Titanomyrma
newly sourced 2x BLP expansion by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
OK. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Was it a new article or was it a less than 5x expansion? And the article and ref say 93 years, not 95. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is a BLP article so 2x expansion is sufficient. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 04:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Good catch on the #--miscopied. Fixed now. Cheers Khazar (talk) 07:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Bautzen (1945)
... that the Battle of Bautzen was one of the most bloody battles of the Polish Army?
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- If I am using the char count correctly, this should be a 5x expansion. Please ping me on talk if there are any issues. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Camp Ashraf massacre
Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (1112 days). Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- May 7 version - 2327 characters (from lead to references)
- current version - 10276 characters
- Seems close enough for me. What am I missing? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Using the DYK check tool today it is: Prose size (text only): 9690 characters (1553 words) "readable prose size" and in December before the expansion started it was: Prose size (text only): 2107 characters (344 words) "readable prose size" Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I've done more expansion. Has the sufficient size been reached now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The size is now OK but the hook is not what it says in the article According to Polish historian Zbigniew Wawer, this was the most bloody battle that the Polish Army had been involved in since the battle of Bzura in 1939.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- So? The hook can simplify content of the article. There is a 200 character limit, you know. I don't understand your point. We can make it more clear by adding "in World War II" if you'd like. Or, in fact, we can use most of that sentence - see alt below: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- The size is now OK but the hook is not what it says in the article According to Polish historian Zbigniew Wawer, this was the most bloody battle that the Polish Army had been involved in since the battle of Bzura in 1939.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I've done more expansion. Has the sufficient size been reached now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the Battle of Bautzen in 1945 was the bloodiest battle of the Polish Army since the Battle of Bzura in 1939?
- Alt 2 OK
Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Changed "most bloody" to "bloodiest". Yoninah (talk) 14:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Alt 2 OK
Walter Anderson (footballer)
- ... that English footballer Walter Anderson died of pneumonia four days after collapsing at Craven Cottage, having ignored doctors' advice to rest?
Created by Argyle 4 Life (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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Date, length, hook OK. Offline ref AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Linwood Pendleton
- ... that Linwood Pendleton discovered that 49% of US economic output comes from estuaries and coasts, which account for only 13% of its land?
Created by Mrlwiki (talk). Nominated by Qwyrxian (talk) at 05:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note: my first DYK nom, let me know if I did anything wrong or can improve it. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, references and date of move to article space check out. Good to go - Basement12 (T.C) 11:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 12
Eurovision Song Contest 2012
- ... that the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 will be hosted by Azerbaijan, after the country won the contest for the first time in 2011?
--BabbaQ (talk) 11:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Let's not use this hook on MainPage till the 2011 contest comes off ITN. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 14:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Richard Laurence Marquette
- ... that serial killer Richard Laurence Marquette was the first person to be a "special addition" to the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list?
Created by Beeblebrox (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Griselda Siciliani
- ... that Griselda Siciliani won the Argentine Clarín Award and Martín Fierro Award as new female artist in 2005?
Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 22:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: 2030 (novel)
Length and date look fine, but the ref used only verifies one of the awards, there should probably be a ref verifying the other if it is to be mentioned in the hook. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Each award has its own reference, as they are different awards, given in different dates Cambalachero (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
cool, looks ready to go. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Battle of Byczyna / War of the Polish Succession (1587–1588)
- ... that in the Battle of Byczyna, Chancellor and Hetman Jan Zamoyski of Poland-Lithuania took Maximilian III, Archduke of Austria prisoner, ending the brief War of the Polish Succession?
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- This a bit of a different beast for me, as this is the first time, I think, that I am submitting two DYKs in one hook. They are closely related, and built around much of the same content. I hope this is fine. In both cases we should see a 5x expansion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Ghana Immigration Service
- A substantial portion of the article expansion is non-attributed copy & paste from articles like Maximilian III, Archduke of Austria and Sigismund III Vasa. Renata (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Rana Pratap Sagar Dam
- ... …that the Rana Pratap Sagar Dam (pictured) in India was built at a cost of Rs 4060 million including the power plant that was financed under the Colombo Plan to import equipment from Canada?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Bride-buying.--Nvvchar. 09:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
María Rosa Lida de Malkiel
- ... that the Argentine philologist María Rosa Lida de Malkiel was an Arthurian-Hispanist pioneer?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Kelly Cherry
Length good, hook ref checks out, looks good to go. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:44, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Gidleigh Park
... that Gidleigh Park was named the best restaurant in Britain in 2010 by the Sunday Times?
- Reviewed: Raymond V. Kirk
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook all good to go. Cheers Khazar (talk) 05:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Isn't this hook (and the article) a tad too promotional? Renata (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. Perhaps ALT1:
"... that Gidleigh Park currently has two stars in the Michelin Guide, despite head chef Ian Webber having no previous Michelin experience?"
- Agreed. Perhaps ALT1:
- Isn't this hook (and the article) a tad too promotional? Renata (talk) 22:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem that much better though. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Gidleigh Park, a hotel-restaurant in Chagford, Devon, England, is located in a Tudor–style country house (pictured) set in 54 acres of gardens and woodlands ? Yoninah (talk) 14:19, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- You're right, I hadn't thought of the promotional aspect. ALT2 is great, and thanks for adding the image to it. Miyagawa (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
ALT2 verified and good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Roger Sutton
- ... that Roger Sutton might be the most important appointment of the New Zealand Government of the year?
- Reviewed: Banksia candolleana (diff)
- Comment: I turned an existing redirect (to a different person) into an article.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler story
... that during World War II a Luftwaffe pilot not only did not destroy the crippled United States Army Air Corps's plane, but safely escorted it to its way to England?
- Reviewed: Bill Thieben ([16])
Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Way too much of the article is sourced to the Weekly World News, and the article includes claims that the other source, Snopes (according to RSN, questionably reliable in itself) states are false. Without any reliable sources, this cannot be published on the main page. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- being "reliable" in not one of DYK criteria, If you have a problem with the reliability of the sources please nominate it on deletion. Besides practically all information included in the article is supported by both sources, and now I added the third one byThe Miami Herald.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, being reliable IS one of the DYK criteria: Rule #4 in fact. The Herald article helps, but the other sources are extremely dubious, especially WWN.--Chimino (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Chimino, I hope you'd agree that, if two unreliable sources repeat absolutely the same story as a reliable one, this story ought to be true? Besides is Snopes is so unreliable as it is presented there? According to wikipedia article " The site has been referenced by news media and other sites, including CNN,FOX news, MSNBC and Australia's ABC. Surely wikipedia could reference this site too, and now I added yet another source, an article by CTV News --Mbz1 (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- FYI, I just removed the WWN and Snopes sources and then added some newspaper sources. Not quite a Featured Article yet, but problems with unreliable sourcing/unverifiability are now taken care of. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
. This is interesting and sufficiently well written and sourced story that deserves to be in DYK. Good work! Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oh look, one of Mbz1's buddies pops up again to approve a severely flawed article. Fancy that. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Reviewed the changes to the article since my previous comment, and no, it still isn't suitable for the main page. If you write an article based on unreliable sources, then swap in the citations for reliable sources without changing any of the article text, you cannot now be said to have an article based on reliable sources. The article still contains statements that appear in none of the cited sources and that indeed were noted to be untrue even by Snopes, which was cited previously, such as the statement that Stigler was ordered to shoot down the
Pub plane. I'd say this needs to be scrapped and rewritten from scratch, consulting only reliable sources. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Like in all such stories there are some discrepancies there between reliable sources. For example one source says that 3 engines of Brown's plane did not work, another source says 2 did not work. Even people who took part in the events are telling slightly different versions of the story as time passes. It is natural, and there's nothing wrong with this. The core of the article stays the same in all sources: a German pilot let an American pilot and his crew go, and the men met some years later and got to be friends.
- Please do not allow to prevent this kind, such needed in our angry time story, to warm the hearts of wikipedia readers. It will be a wrong thing to do.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:48, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you feel that way, but I trust you to be able to move beyond it and focus on making constructive changes to the article, instead of ad hominem attacks on people who criticize it. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, "constructive" changes to the article were made, the only problem you mentioned in your decline reason was removed, but your decline, actually two declines are still on.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you feel that way, but I trust you to be able to move beyond it and focus on making constructive changes to the article, instead of ad hominem attacks on people who criticize it. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- A couple things: a. I just went through and removed all the info that I couldn't find in these three articles [17][18][19]. Some of what I removed is probably available in some sources, but make sure if you re-add anything it has inline citations. b. Let's try really hard to comment on content, not contributors. Qrsdogg (talk) 22:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note 2: Inline citations have been added to the article. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well, and I added some of removed information right back because it is supported by at least one RS, and not only the three you listed above, but by other two I added yesterday myself.I do not believe anything should have been removed including two sources user:Roscelese claimed to be unreliable. If the article were sourced only by those two sources, then yes, but, if so called unreliable sources repeat the same story as reliable ones do, how unreliable they really are? How unreliable could be this source with the pictures and interviews of the men? This article is not about an exact science, this article is not under any topic that is a subject of discretionary sanctions, this article is about a war story, a story that is retold every single time with some new details added and some old details missing and/or changed. The reliable sources that are used in the article now have some discrepancies too. It is OK. What the difference does it make how many engines Brown's plane lost? What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own? How this particular information could affect wikipedia's main page readers? IMO removing information from the article means giving in to a bad faith decline.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- "What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own?" - Wait, really? "What difference does it make to the reader if our editors just make things up?" This is really a question someone is posing on Wikipedia, on a main-page proposal no less? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- This was removed! Move on, please. Come up with new decline reasons, or remove the ones you have now.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- "What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own?" - Wait, really? "What difference does it make to the reader if our editors just make things up?" This is really a question someone is posing on Wikipedia, on a main-page proposal no less? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook and refs of reliable sources check out as of the current version (which for the record is [20]). The problems raised by the decliner have been rectified. Until someone points out a specific example of something that currently fails to reflect the information in the refs, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure you want to approve that hook? Maybe one with proper grammar and a comprehensible sentence structure would be better... Beeblebrox (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
ALT 1: ... that during World War II, a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on a United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and actually safely escorted it to the North Sea?Beeblebrox (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)- Thanks for fixing my grammar.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
While I thought the original hook was oddly worded, I understood what it meant but wasn't sure how to reword it. ALT 1 is a great improvement and actually tells more of the story. However, I did add a comma and change "an" to "a" in ALT1. OCNative (talk) 00:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Might I also suggest removing the "actually"? I think the surprise of the event is already implied in "declined to fire". Agree it's a great improvement. Khazar (talk) 06:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- I also agree that "actually" should be removed, if for nothing else at least to make hook shorter. Now it is 6 characters above the limit of the recommended hooks' length.--Mbz1 (talk) 07:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good. For the record, it is:
ALT2:... that during World War II, a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on a United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and safely escorted it to the North Sea? OCNative (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Might I also suggest removing the "actually"? I think the surprise of the event is already implied in "declined to fire". Agree it's a great improvement. Khazar (talk) 06:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing my grammar.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I just made significant corrections to the article (punctuation, grammar, redundant words & phrases, etc.) – which also had a naked ref! The article's author missed including interesting words like "flak" that would advance the story and had wikilinked words like "engine", while leaving vernacular terms like "blacked out" unlinked. This wikipedia is read by lots of people for whom English is not a native language. When you write "plane's engine", it's pretty clear what you mean - in other words, no need for a wikilink to "engine", but "blacked out" should have been linked or taken out of the vernacular. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a story book, so no article should begin with "this is a story about". The article deserves much better writing and I hope it is fixed further. Marrante (talk) 15:57, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Clinton St. Baking Company & Restaurant
- ... that Clinton St. Baking Company & Restaurant (pictured), has been described it as a “cult favorite”, a "brunch magnet," and New York City’s “hottest breakfast nook"?
- Reviewed: 2011 PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals
Created by --Epeefleche (talk) 16:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC). Self nom.
Art length good, hook length good, hook sourced well. GTG --Chimino (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Women's tennis in Australia
- ... that early female tennis players in Australia had to pay as much as a week's wages to buy a racquet?
Created by LauraHale (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Date and length check out. The hook citation can be accepted in good faith as it originates from an offline source. — AlekJDS talk 19:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Andreacarus voalavo, Voalavo gymnocaudus
- ... that the rodent Voalavo gymnocaudus and its parasitic mite Andreacarus voalavo are known only from two massifs in the Northern Highlands of Madagascar?
- Reviewed: Pimoa cthulhu
- Comment: The mite is new, the rodent just expanded well over five times.
5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Length/expansion and dates are fine, AGF for reference. I've added a wikilink to massif in the hook. Reday to go - Basement12 (T.C) 14:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
New Albion Brewing Company
- ... that the defunct New Albion Brewing Company was an early influence on the United States microbrewery and craft beer movement of the late 20th century?
- Reviewed: Benefis Health System
Created by Chimino (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- Can you direct us to where that is stated in the ref? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is not directly stated, but describes the process of it becoming the first microbrewery; I've provided two additional sources which make the claim directly. Let me know if sufficient...--Chimino (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The second ref strikes me as questionable (as to whether it is an RS). The third ref happily is clearly an RS. It refers to the company, however, as "the first ground-up craft brewery in the United States". That is fodder for a hook, but seems a bit different than what is stated in the current hook.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- That sounds okay, if the term wikilinks to "microbrewery". There's also this quote "his influence played a significant role for the first successful batch of microbrewers.”[21] All in all, it seems to be generally implied it was the first microbrewer, but I can't find a verifiable source stating it plainly...--Chimino (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I see that "craft brewery" redirects to "microbrewery". I'm not quite sure what the phrase "ground-up" means or adds. Nor (perhaps I am missing it) do I see the reference to "since Prohibition". So, as to the hook, I think there is one here, but I would appreciate another editor suggesting the best way to phrase it. Perhaps it is to change "microbrewery" to "craft brewery" (or perhaps that is not even necessary ... I defer to others), and to delete (unless there is support for it) the phrase "since Prohibition"? Another editor's input would be appreciated.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I agree a third opinion would help; the problem with "microbrewery" and "craft beer" owning the same article is the former referring to volume produced while the latter describes style.--Chimino (talk) 03:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I can't tell which statement in ref 1 (Brewers Association) is supposed to support the statement. Ref 2 (Beer Festivals) isn't really RS. Ref 3 (NY Observer) is RS, but I, like Epeefleche, am not at all sure that "ground-up craft brewery" is equivalent to "microbrewery since Prohibition." I think it's probably better to scrap this hook idea (and remove the statement from the article) and go for another interesting fact from the article, like its having basically started the microbrewery trend (this is supported by the Observer). Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I agree a third opinion would help; the problem with "microbrewery" and "craft beer" owning the same article is the former referring to volume produced while the latter describes style.--Chimino (talk) 03:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I see that "craft brewery" redirects to "microbrewery". I'm not quite sure what the phrase "ground-up" means or adds. Nor (perhaps I am missing it) do I see the reference to "since Prohibition". So, as to the hook, I think there is one here, but I would appreciate another editor suggesting the best way to phrase it. Perhaps it is to change "microbrewery" to "craft brewery" (or perhaps that is not even necessary ... I defer to others), and to delete (unless there is support for it) the phrase "since Prohibition"? Another editor's input would be appreciated.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- That sounds okay, if the term wikilinks to "microbrewery". There's also this quote "his influence played a significant role for the first successful batch of microbrewers.”[21] All in all, it seems to be generally implied it was the first microbrewer, but I can't find a verifiable source stating it plainly...--Chimino (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- The second ref strikes me as questionable (as to whether it is an RS). The third ref happily is clearly an RS. It refers to the company, however, as "the first ground-up craft brewery in the United States". That is fodder for a hook, but seems a bit different than what is stated in the current hook.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is not directly stated, but describes the process of it becoming the first microbrewery; I've provided two additional sources which make the claim directly. Let me know if sufficient...--Chimino (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've rewritten the hook & lede, removing the dubious source. Let me know what you think...--Chimino (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Raymond V. Kirk
- ... that when Father Raymond V. Kirk was appointed president of Duquesne University at the age of 38, he was one of the youngest university presidents in the United States?
- Reviewed: Women's tennis in Australia ([22])
Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
All checks out. Miyagawa (talk) 00:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Warblington Castle
- ... that Warblington Castle in Hampshire was granted to two different 1st Earls of Southampton?
- Reviewed: Alexi Salamone ([23])
Created by Geni (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
The article is new enough (11 May 2011) and long enought (1678 prose charaters) and reads nicely. However, I would suggest that it mentions the castle's location in the script (Warblington Castle is near Langstone in Hampshire) rather than leave it in the footnotes. Philipjelley (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't actualy have a source for that. The closest I've got would be "in fields near the edge of Chichester Harbour". The problem is that it sits in a gap between settlements.©Geni 22:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- On p32 of the Reader's Digest Touring Guide to Britian, Reader's Digest Assoication Limited, (1992) it says of Langstone "A mile east, ruins of 16th-century Warbington Castle and Saxon Church with 14th-century wooden porch." You could just say its near Havant, north-east of Portsmouth or between Southampton and Chichester. It's just that I read the article and wondered where the castle was, so I looked it up. Regards, Philipjelley (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've added "in Hampshire" to the hook. Nyttend (talk) 23:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Make it "near Langstone in Hampshire Philipjelley (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've added "in Hampshire" to the hook. Nyttend (talk) 23:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- On p32 of the Reader's Digest Touring Guide to Britian, Reader's Digest Assoication Limited, (1992) it says of Langstone "A mile east, ruins of 16th-century Warbington Castle and Saxon Church with 14th-century wooden porch." You could just say its near Havant, north-east of Portsmouth or between Southampton and Chichester. It's just that I read the article and wondered where the castle was, so I looked it up. Regards, Philipjelley (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't actualy have a source for that. The closest I've got would be "in fields near the edge of Chichester Harbour". The problem is that it sits in a gap between settlements.©Geni 22:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
1946-47 Ashes series
- ... that the 1946-47 Ashes series was arranged when the Attorney-General of Australia Doctor H. V. Evatt (pictured) made a personal appeal to the Marylebone Cricket Club at Lords for the rapid resumption of Anglo-Australian Test cricket after the Second World War?
- Reviewed: Warblington Castle ([24])
5x expanded by Philipjelley (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Note: The article was created on 27 April 2011, but the prose content has increased over fivefold in the last five days (from c1,500 to c11,000) Philipjelley (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Peter Velappan
- ... that Peter Velappan served as General Secretary of the Asian Football Confederation for nearly 30 years before retiring in 2007?
Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Length and date verified. However, hook needs an additional reference to be cited in the article on Velappan's date/year of retirement. Also, please review another article, if you have contributed more than 5 DYKS.--Nvvchar. 08:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Provided additional citation for year of retirement. I have less than 5 DYKs. Thanks for reviewing. - Yk3 talk · contrib 15:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks.
Good to go now.--Nvvchar. 02:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks.
Dagan (bishop)
- ... that the Irish bishop and saint, Dagan, may have attempted to excommunicate the Roman missionaries sent by Pope Gregory the Great to convert the Anglo-Saxons by refusing to eat with them?
- Reviewed: María Rosa Lida de Malkiel ([25])
Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Date and length are fine, AGF on offline and subscription sources. Qrsdogg (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 13
William Ward (American football)
- ... that Michigan football coach William Ward (pictured) later became a physician who experimented with the surgical creation of artificial vaginas?
5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, expansion, hoof refs and picture license okay. --Pgallert (talk) 12:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Croton North Railroad Station
- ... that the two old Pullman-Electric passenger cars at the former Croton North station (pictured) in Croton-on-Hudson, New York, are contributing resources to the station's National Register listing although they were never used in the state?
- Reviewed: Teraterpeton ([26])
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
The article does not explicitly say they were never used in the state of New York, so it'd be better to align the wording in the hook and the article a little more. I cannot access the source, but presume the hook is correct. Ucucha 00:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Done I made that explicit ... forgot most people aren't that familiar with the geography of the NYC metro area. Daniel Case (talk) 03:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Ucucha 15:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Teraterpeton
- ... that unusual archosauromorph reptile Teraterpeton from the Late Triassic of Nova Scotia had nostril openings in its skull that were larger than its eye sockets?
Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 17:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Coloptychon rhombifer
Walt Disney's Riverfront Square
- ... that Walt Disney's Riverfront Square in St. Louis, Missouri was to have been entirely indoors?
Created by AtionSong (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Upper Wardha Dam
- ... that families of farmers and fishermen affected by submergence of the Upper Wardha Dam (pictured), in Maharashtra resorted to agitation seeking fishing rights in the reservoir, as an economic incentive?
Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Khin Ohmar.--Nvvchar. 11:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Janardhan Mitta
- ... that Indian sitarist Janardhan Mitta was a student of sitar maestro Pandit Ravi Shankar?
- Reviewed: OZ Group
- Comment: Will be adding more to the article, but it is already 1800 characters of prose and long enough for DYK.
Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 05:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
2362 B readable size. References, date checked. Good to go. --Redtigerxyz Talk 10:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Montenegrin nationality law
- ... that Montenegrin nationality law first recognised the right of renunciation of citizenship in 1905 during the reign of Nicholas I?
- Reviewed: Kingdom of the Little People
5x expanded by Eric Baer (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
All checks out. Nice expansion! Miyagawa (talk) 16:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
William Rogers (engraver)
- ... that William Rogers' engraved portrait Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window (pictured) is based on a drawing by Isaac Oliver?
- Reviewed: Fay Kellogg ([27])
Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- May I suggest ALT1: "... that Will Rogers' engraved portrait Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window (pictured) is based on a drawing by Isaac Oliver?"
- Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Now that is funny. :-) - PKM (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length and date check out. Hook fact behind registration wall, so assuming good faith on that. Hook choice up to other editors. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Now that is funny. :-) - PKM (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
San Cristóbal de las Casas
- ... that some of the tourism in San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico is related to the Zapatista uprising of 1994?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- REVIEWED Phonocentrism Thelmadatter (talk) 00:11, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, 5x and date of expansion check out. Offline hook accepted in good faith. Good to go! Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
Very nice. Hook could be rephrased to avoid the awkward "related to" the Zapatistas, though - something like:
- ALT1: ... that San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico has a "Zapaturismo" industry of tourists interested in the Zapatista uprising of 1994? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
WASP-15b
- ... that the anomalously high radius of extrasolar planet WASP-15b is thought to be caused by some form of internal heating?
5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: M-134 (Michigan highway) --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Checks out. Ucucha 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
8th (Midlands) Parachute Battalion
- ... that after the Second World War the 8th (Midlands) Parachute Battalion had to deal with riots in Tel Aviv?
Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Size, source and date ok.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Kingdom of the Little People
- ... that the Kingdom of the Little People theme park in Kunming, China requires its performers to be less than 51 inches (130 cm) tall?
Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Dagan (bishop) Qrsdogg (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Source, size, and date ok. Eric Baer (talk) 04:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Khin Ohmar
- ... that Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar evaded arrest during Burma's pro-democracy 8888 Uprising when a Japanese diplomat allowed her and other students to hide from police in his home?
- ALT1: ... that US First Lady Laura Bush described Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar as "one of the strongest voices against Burma's violent regime"?
- ALT2: ... that in 2008, Khin Ohmar won the Global Leadership Award and the Anna Lindh Prize for her work with the Burmese democracy movement?
- Reviewed: Antoin Miliordos
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 16:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Lenght, date size, refrences to all hooks verified. My preference is for ALT2 hook. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 11:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
2030 (novel)
- ... that 2030: The Real Story of What Happens to America, Albert Brooks' 2011 dystopian novel, was originally written as a movie script?
Created by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- (Reviewed Go the Fuck to Sleep, below --Lexein (talk) 16:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC))
Dates and sizes check OK. It may need a section about the plot, rather than in the lead, but that's for future development, the article seems acceptable as it is. Cambalachero (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Antoin Miliordos
- ... that Greek skier Antoin Miliordos crossed the finish line of the downhill event at the 1952 Winter Olympics backwards after falling 18 times?
- Reviewed: Xanthostemon chrysanthus ([29])
Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook all check out. And a great hook it is. -- Khazar (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Wireless network#Uses
- ... that for homeowners, wireless technology is an effective option as compared to ethernet?
5x expanded by Ndystorms (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 11:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, but expansion of a specific section is not sufficient, unless it brings the article as a whole up to 5x expansion. In this case the article has only been expanded about 1.7x, from 4396 to 7448 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Xanthostemon chrysanthus
- ... that the golden penda (pictured) can flower at any time of year?
- Comment: silly hook but actually goes well with impressive pic
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed : Taaffeite Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, expansion and image rights are fine, AGF for offline ref. Personally I prefer the other image in the article (Image:Xanthostemon chrysanthus.jpg) but the choice is up to Casliber - Basement12 (T.C) 13:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- The other image looks great big, but you are right it does get a little lost as a thumbnail. It is a spectacular plant in flower - (dammit I drove past one in flower the other day...if only I could remember where it was...). Look, the person uploading this to a queue can play with whichever image they think is ok, I am not fussed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Here's the other image, for thumbnail comparison. I prefer this one. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 23:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, the second image is better as a DYK thumbnail. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Agree, second image looks better as a thumbnail. With the hook being about the flowering of the plant, having a pic of the flower would suit better. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss
- ... that the church of Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss is the private chapel of the Pontifical Swiss Guards in the Vatican City?
Created by Afernand74 (talk). Self nom at 09:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Length & data verified. Hook length good. Image license OK. Foreign language reference accepted in good faith - claim verified online (Catholic Encylopedia, 1913). Nice article.
Good to go. Haruth (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Giles Muhame
- ... that Ugandan Rolling Stone editor Giles Muhame alleged that a gay rights group conspired with Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab in the July 2010 Kampala suicide bombings?
- Reviewed:Gidleigh Park
- Note: This could use a touch of extra attention as a very controversial figure--he's the guy who outed David Kato before Kato's murder. I've tried to pick a humorous and tightly-sourced hook here that doesn't implicate him in murder, but I'm up for other ALTs too.
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 05:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Taaffeite
- ... that Taaffeite (pictured) is one of the rarest gemstone minerals in the world?
- Reviewed: Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss
- Comment: Article expanded 13 May
5x expanded by Haruth (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
offline ref accepted in good faith - good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I slightly tweaked the hook for you. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Crisco. Haruth (talk) 11:07, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Crisco. Haruth (talk) 11:07, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Go the Fuck to Sleep
- ...
that Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep, thanks to advance copies having been emailed, was #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list on May 12, 2011, a month before it was to be released?
Created by Kelapstick (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed nursing practice, below.
Article size ok, citations okay, hook basically ok, length=206, - I'd take out "PDFs" since it's not wikilinked. Otherwise good.--Lexein (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've made a minor tweak. I'm not totally happy with the hook but don't know how to phrase it any better. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- And when this goes live, can we have it at a time when all the mommies and daddies in the US who also read/edit Wikipedia are just done putting those rats to bed? And can I say that my darlings don't take two hours to go to sleep? One and a half at the most? And that last night I only had to get up twice, at 1:15 and at 1:45? *Yawn.* Drmies (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- That hook works, but how about one of these:
ALT1:... that free PDF copies of Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep pushed the book to #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list a month before its scheduled release?
or
ALT2:... that Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep was #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list on May 12, 2011—a month before it was to be released—thanks to free advance copies emailed via PDFs? OCNative (talk)
best so far for size, links, and clarity. Good to go. --Lexein (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I like that last hook. Drmies (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Nursing practice
- ... that nursing practice has two main levels and five stages of development?
Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm. The article is cleanly organized, but there are two issues. First of all, given that the sourcing comes from a college, a council, and a company of lawyers, the article is rather one-sided and focuses exclusively on the description of current practice, without acknowledging that there may well be a history to the topic. (This is not the same point as a certain lack of reliable sourcing.) Second, there currently is a merge proposal, and I don't think an article should be on the front page while there is no consensus on whether it can stand alone. This may change in a couple of days, as may the other problem I see. Right now, the article is not ready yet. Drmies (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- Historical expansion being done with a few others. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Had expanded it further. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. But I still don't think we should move forward with this given the balance of discussion at Talk:Nursing#Merger_proposal. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Need admin-assisted decision to close the discussion so that eligibility of my article can be determined. Any admins from here please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 14:05, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. But I still don't think we should move forward with this given the balance of discussion at Talk:Nursing#Merger_proposal. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 14
Lansdowne Road football riot
- ... that Combat 18 gave the Nazi salute to the Irish national anthem before the Lansdowne Road football riot?
Created by Quasihuman (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and source all fine. Congrats, Dahn (talk) 16:24, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Julien Hoffmann
- ... that Julien Hoffmann is the composer of the song "La marche du Grand-Duc Henri", first performed at a special royal concert marking HRH Grand Duke Henri’s accession to the throne of Luxembourg on October 7, 2000 at the Grand Ducal Palace?
2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 10:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Historia de San Martín y de la emancipación sudamericana
- ... that Bartolomé Mitre wrote the biography of José de San Martín Historia de San Martín y de la emancipación sudamericana after ending his administration as president of Argentina?
- Reviewed: Mike Pasquella
Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Crossopriza lyoni
- ... that tailed cellar spiders (pictured) escape predators by turning themselves almost invisible?
- ALT1:... that spiderlings of Crossopriza lyoni (pictured) can catch mosquitoes four times their own size barely one week after hatching?
- ALT2:... that tailed cellar spiders (pictured) may play an important role in reducing mosquito-borne tropical diseases?
- Reviewed: German destroyer Z13 Erich Koellner ([31])
- Comment: Not sure which picture to use. Feel free to pick a better one from here. Will welcome alt suggestions as well, don't really know which of the three is more interesting.
Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 02:03, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Mike Pasquella
- ... that first baseman Mike Pasquella played two games in Major League Baseball—his first for the Philadelphia Phillies and his last opposing them?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Francis X. Shea. — KV5 • Talk • 00:12, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Character count (excluding titles, references and similar stuff) gives 1473. It's not the required 1500, but it's very near, add a few more sentences to complete it. Besides, I would remove the "exactly" from the hook, that word should be used for cases of unexpectedly matching numbers (such as when reaching a record, but without surpassing it) Cambalachero (talk) 02:58, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Prosesize.js gives the pagesize as 1774. — KV5 • Talk • 11:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Francis X. Shea
- ... that, as president of the College of St. Scholastica, Jesuit educator Francis X. Shea started a campus tradition by holding a fish fry at his home during the spring smelt run?
- Reviewed: Jean Perrot ([32])
Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Offline ref is accepted on good faith and confirmed by online ref. Very nicely done. — KV5 • Talk • 23:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Jesse Levan
- ... that Jesse Levan, winner of multiple minor league batting championships, was the last person banned by baseball's governing organizations for conspiring to fix games?
Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed Grammy Award for Best Long Form Music Video. — KV5 • Talk • 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Both hook sources check out. Nice article! Cmprince (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Meat dress of Lady Gaga
- ... that the meat dress of Lady Gaga was to be preserved by being made into a type of jerky?
- Reviewed: Montenegrin nationality law
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Lengths and dates check out. However, while the hook source and article both indicate that there was a plan to make the dress into jerky, there is no confirmation that the plan was carried out. Either there needs to be a source (and statement in the article) indicating that this happened, or the hook should be reworded to indicate that this was the plan. --Orlady (talk) 21:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Modified the hook. Miyagawa (talk) 21:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Everything looks good now. --Orlady (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Coloptychon rhombifer
- ... that the Isthmian Alligator Lizard, native to Costa Rica and Panama, was not seen for fifty years?
- Reviewed: Peter Mweshihange
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, and hook all good. Smokeybjb (talk) 15:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Ahalya
- ... that according to Hindu mythology, the god-king Indra was cursed with having a thousand vagina marks on his body for having extra-martial sex with Ahalya (pictured)?
5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed #Wellington R. Burt. --Redtigerxyz Talk 10:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, and 5x expansion check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Voalavo
- ... that breeding males of the Malagasy rodent Voalavo produce a sweet-smelling musk?
- Reviewed: WASP-15b
5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Length, date of expansion, and hook fact check out. Good to go! Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Badai Pasti Berlalu (novel), Badai Pasti Berlalu (film), Badai Pasti Berlalu (album), Badai Pasti Berlalu (song)
- ... that Marga T's novel Badai Pasti Berlalu spawned a critically acclaimed film, album, and song?
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Mark Edward (diff), Sanjak of Prizren (diff), Voalavo (diff), and San Cristóbal de las Casas (diff). Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- Also, if possible could we have it for June 5th (when the novel started its original run as a serial in Kompas)? Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Eliurus petteri
- ... that the Malagasy rodent Eliurus petteri is the only tufted-tailed rat with completely white underparts?
- Reviewed: Croton North Railway Station
Created by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Size, newness, and hook check out, although the ref's Handle System number is a dead link. While this should be fixed, I'll accept the ref in good faith anyways. It does not seem to conflict with DYK requirements. --Starstriker7(Talk) 04:48, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've fixed the link; something in the templates messed it up. Ucucha 15:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Bramalea Satellites
- ... that the Bramalea Satellites went from being a national championship-winning Toronto Argonauts taxi squad, to an vastly unsuccessful youth league?
5x expanded by Zanimum (talk). Self nom at 03:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
(Note that this article was created in 2006, was 431 bytes this morning, and is 12,107 bytes now. And I really have no interest in football, and have never heard of this team outside of Wikipedia. -- Zanimum (talk) 03:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC))
Articles created/expanded on May 15
Nicolae Iorga
- ... that Romania's communist regime celebrated historian Nicolae Iorga (pictured) as a forerunner, even though he was a conservative who admired Italian Fascism and the French far-right?
- Reviewed: Lansdowne Road football riot ([33])
5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
South East Forest National Park, Smoky Mouse, Olive Whistler
- ... that South East Forest National Park in the southeastern corner of New South Wales is a haven for the vulnerable Smoky Mouse and Olive Whistler (pictured)?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
vapBC
- ... that the Mycobacterium tuberculosis genome is predicted to contain 45 copies of vapBC?
Created by Jebus989 (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Two Broke Girls
Sebastian Kamwanga
- ... that in the 1980s Gciriku king Sebastian Kamwanga allowed PLAN guerrilla fighters to use his farm as operational base in the Namibian War of Independence?
- Reviewed: William Ward (American football) ([34])
- Comment: I am out on business travel until May 21. In case of serious concerns, please give me the chance of responding / correcting on May 22.
Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 12:23, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Two Broke Girls
- ... that the CBS comedy series Two Broke Girls is set in New York City, USA?
--BabbaQ (talk) 11:50, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
is only 664 characters, excluding infobox, cast list and references—far short of 1500 Jebus989✰ 13:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not only that, but what is interesting about the hook? Is it the only series set in NYC? Dahn (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Ohn Than
- Reviewed:MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length and hook all check out. Nice article. Good to go. Marrante (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Cheers, thanks. -- Khazar (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Dirty Dancer
- ... that "Dirty Dancer", a song by Enrique Iglesias, Usher and Lil Wayne, was performed by Iglesias on American Idol on May 12, 2011?
- Reviewed: Wipas Raksakulthai ([35])
- Comment: The article was first created on May 9, but was later redirected for lack of notability. I recreated it with at least five times the prose, so it's eligible for DYK regardless
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 09:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Could we get some independent discussion about whether this song is any more notable under WP:NSONGS than it was before the corresponding article was redirected and then recreated? I wasn't involved in that discussion previously, but I do have some doubts about its notability independent of the album. If editors who are more familiar than I am with that policy agree that it passes wp:nsongs, I'll have no objection. If not, the article should probably be re-tagged for a merge to album article, assuming there is one. – OhioStandard (talk) 11:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Wipas Raksakulthai
- ... that in 2010, Wipas Raksakulthai became the first Thai man arrested for committing lèse majesté on Facebook?
- Reviewed:Fudai, Iwate
Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 09:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Age, size, hook all OK. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:33, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Refah Tragedy
- ... that in the early stage of World War II, neutral country Turkey's steamer Refah was torpedoed by an unidentified submarine in eastern Mediterranean Sea killing 170 of 202 people aboard?
5x expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self nom at 08:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Fudai, Iwate
- ... that the 15.5-meter floodgate that protected Fudai, Iwate, Japan from the recent tsunami was derided as a waste of public funds when it was built in the 1970s?
- ALT1:... that a delegation from Fudai, Iwate, Japan was insulted by the drunk mayor of neighboring village Tanohata in 1960 in an attempt to derail merger negotiations?
- Reviewed: Jesse Levan ([[36]])
- Comment: 5x expansion includes the removal of unrelated text in the original draft; it is now well over 5x what it would have been without the removed paragraph (1944 vs 221 bytes).
- Comment2: Slight correction: replaced "seawall" with "floodgate" (this is what is written in the text, and the linked articles are different).
5x expanded by Cmprince (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Great hook, date and length check out. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 09:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb
- ... that the characteristics of the extrasolar planet MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb are difficult to estimate because data on its host star's characteristics are not well-constrained?
Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Note: I am planning on creating the star article, which I may later introduce into the hook. --Starstriker7(Talk) 04:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- Reviewed: eliurus petteri --Starstriker7(Talk) 04:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, hook all GTG. -- Khazar (talk) 11:37, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
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June 2 (Feast of the Ascension)
Ascension of Jesus in Christian art
- ... that the depictions of the Ascension of Jesus in Christian art (pictured) are often divided into an upper (heavenly) and lower (earthly) part?
- Reviewed: 1926 FA Cup Final
Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Here is the G-book link for the hook (is also in the article). History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: will be appropriate for Feast of the Ascension, June 2, 2011. History2007 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
June 6 (Queensland Day)
Anzac Avenue
- ... that Anzac Avenue is the longest World War I memorial road in Queensland?
- Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ([37])
5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
All checks out - ready to go. Harrison49 (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Looks good indeed. I just think it's a shame you couldn't use it on the main page today as it's ANZAC day. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. That was the intention, but you know, procrastination ;). Lankiveil (speak to me) 22:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC).
- Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).
- Please be encouraged to get a good photo to go with the hook. You still have 4 weeks. Lots of time. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).
June 12 (Pentecost)
Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus
- ... that the Holy Ghost ipomopsis found in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in New Mexico is predicted to become extinct in 50 years?
Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Length, date, and hook reference (3) all check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:41, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)