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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchester United F.C. 9–0 Ipswich Town F.C.

Disagree that it is not notable but the community seems to think so.Cptnono (talk) 06:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Done. Sorry about that. I also put up Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newcastle United F.C. 8–0 Sheffield Wednesday F.C.. As a Newcastle fan that stung.Cptnono (talk) 06:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Goal time

I was at Old Trafford for the match, but when I watched it back again the next day, the ball clearly crossed the line at 40:59, but if the media is reporting it as 42', I suppose we should too.

RednessInside (talk) 17:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know what you mean it is confusing sometimes. I paused the highlights when the goal was scored and the ball was hitting the back of the net and the time still showed 40:59 (41'), although I admit when watched at full speed it does look like 41:00 (42').

RednessInside (talk) 19:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Email

Looks like your email account has either been hijacked or spoofed - I just got some spam purporting to be from your email address. Oldelpaso (talk) 07:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Read

Talk:1968 Intercontinental Cup#Page protection

...

And I am a man of my word. And as a sign of good faith, I could help you with the Manchester United F.C. in Europe list. It could be FL material in a few days. What do you say? 68.215.155.80 (talk) 07:51, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Carlos Tévez

Hi PJ2K3! Thanks for that; I get so accustomed to see sports statistics changing without explanation that I didn't spot that this was a simple "totals" row when I reverted the change the first time it was made. Cheers -- Timberframe (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HappyDudeThe_MadTim#Religious_agenda —Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyDudeThe MadTim (talk • contribs) 23:15, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Thansk for taking the time to respond. No wait ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by HappyDudeThe MadTim (talk • contribs) 22:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Man U players

Hi mate, I have now (to my knowledge) completed the two Man U player lists. Can you check that I haven't missed anyone out and correct any errors that I may have made? I have noticed that the player lists for some clubs include stats for the wartime matches played in 1939, so I have included Beaumont Asquith (who is noticed in my Player by Player book) - I'm not sure whether he should be removed.

We can now try and add some prose and references to the two articles.

Thanks. 03md 22:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Winging it again?

Re.[1]. So come on then, where exactly is it documented in a policy or guideline, that our readers are so moronic, so absolutely fucking retarded, that they would be confused by a column which is clearly listing annual seasons from 1992-93 to 2009-10, that it needs to be broken up in such an obviously stupid and visually disgusting way, just to include 1999-2000? MickMacNee (talk) 01:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Graphic

Hey, how to do those Graphics like you did for the Inter-Sevilla match? Kante4 (talk) 12:43, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok will give it a try next timne, thanks. :-) Kante4 (talk) 13:21, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Kits

I'll give it a go over the rest of the bank holiday weekend. It would be appreciated and rather time saving if you get people to go through the file history of Bruno's kits and reupload those which don't feature the logos. VEO^{one five} 02:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

On my user page, I've made a list of what teams' kits I have saved on my hard drive, just so you know... VEO^{one five} 13:39, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

PL results table

Hey PJ. Can you think of any reason why this is getting out of date? I'll update if no reason. Thanks. gonads³ 11:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Four clubs?

FYI: I like the Blades, the Tigers, and the Magpies and only hope for Chelsea to WIN and for ManUtd to LOSE.   TRBP  talk  11:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

OK sorry for getting snippy.   TRBP  talk  11:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Imagemap

Hmmm...possibly I can. I did the map using this tool. Its a fairly easy process :) ResMar 19:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually, looking at it again, there are a variety of positions fielded. It's still completely possible, but might be a very bulky template. ResMar 19:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, after working around with it, I think it can't be done. Trying to insert templementation, it simply burps out error codes no matter what I do. Obviously a MediaWiki issue, sorry. ResMar 20:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

You can still grab the tool and manually imagemap each article, though. Nothing stopping you there :) ResMar 20:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Wales

I have put the Wales article forward for GA status. It just needs tweaking, and maybe a heavy-handed swipe from outside to get it in place. I am writing to those who are constant contributors and defenders of Wales and Welsh articles, to not scream at me for doing this, but to help get the article through. If we fail, we fail, there is nothing wrong with that; but Wales should be a Good Article at least and if it takes good intentioned amateurs to reach that then so be it. FruitMonkey (talk) 01:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review - Samuel Galindo

I started a deletion review for Samuel Galindo on WP:DRV because I found out he made in international appearance back on February and I think I misunderstood one of the requirements on WP:ATHLETE. – Michael (talk) 01:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

English-only

I have no clue where you got this crazy idea that English Wikipedia should only cover items relevant to "English-speaking countries", but there is no such policy. Your removal of validly sourced information on this concept has been reverted on FIFA 11. Not only is it silly to assume that English speakers will only reside in "English-speaking countries", but it's also silly to assume that only people from these countries will be interested in our article on FIFA 11. We are an encyclopedia for the world that happens to be written in English, not an English encyclopedia for English subjects. Do not removed validly sourced information regarding covers for various regions of the world from this article again. The³5₉ (Talk) 21:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

UEFA European Football Championship

Hey,

Regarding this: got a reliable source? I've changed it back for the time being. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 22:21, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Bebe

On the source, it says nothing of Buddhism on there. Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't really know why he's a source for vandalism D: He hasn't even done anything yet Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:18, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure, I think subject for deletion? Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I doubt the 3rd division would be professional. Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Is it worth adding that Real Madrid were interested? Says here Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok cool, I'm not too sure about these Attack midfielder rumours either, seems to have just come from messageboards? Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It says that he's the 3rd Cape Verdean to play but technically he hasn't played yet? Therefore surely he doesn't count? Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 22:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Says on here that Bebé is 6ft 2inches in the last paragraph? Considering Bebé doesn't have a profile anymore on Vitoria, that reference of 6ft 3inches leads to nothing? Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 10:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Should we add the Champions League inclusion? I've added it to the talk page. But i'm busy right now so I can't add it D: Lushhhhhhhh (talk) 11:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Premier League FAR

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Manchester United

Hi,

I noticed that since most NFL and Australian Rules Football use the words American football and Australian Rules football respectively. I've had another user ask to discuss this somewhere, and i'm fine with that to gain a consensus(an RFC or maybe one of the wikiprojects), but it should be standardized one way or another either by what people call the sport per ENGVAR; in the US, American football is known as just football, and football refers to other codes in Australia, Canada, Ireland, and South Africa (I may be missing some countries), or by the official name of the sport (English football is governed by the Football Association and FIFA, the FA standing for association football.) Doc Quintana (talk) 01:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The FA stands for the Football Association, not association football, otherwise it would be called the AF. Maybe it should be discussed on Wikiproject Football, but in England people call the sport 'football'; I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone call the sport 'association football'. Kind regards, Tom (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Nicola Rizzoli

Hey, why exactly did you undo my work on Nicola Rizzoli? It was a perfectly valid point, look at any major referee's page and you'll see stuff exactly the same as what I put on his page. You say you're 'cleaning up' Wikipedia, but all you're doing is deleting relevant information and I really don't get why you would do that. AndrewvdBK (talk) 18:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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Good call. — KV5 • Talk • 15:27, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Bad call. You moved it against consensus of a previous discussion. Consider yourself warned. - BilCat (talk) 00:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

BOLD doesn't apply here, as there is a previous consensus. Please be civil. - BilCat (talk) 07:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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Don't use profanity!

Why do you have to use profanity on an edit summary while reverting nonsense on the FIFA 11 article. I know it annoyed you but you shouldn't crack up. So keep your foul mouth to yourself or you could be banned! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonderwizard (talk • contribs) 08:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, why the fuck would people browsing the English language Wikipedia give a shit about the Russian cover of the game? Seems like a reasonable question to me, not profanity. Why not take your uncivil threats elsewhere? Malleus Fatuorum 11:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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super rugby

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Record attendance

An editor recently changed United's entry on Record home attendances of English football clubs to an FA Cup match against Bradford PA and used stretfordend.co.uk as a ref. Now I know it is meant to be a reliable source, but is at odds with all the other sources I've encountered, which put United's 1948 match against Arsenal as a club and league record 83,260. Any idea where this difference comes from? Oldelpaso (talk) 20:21, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

United first team players on loan

Hi PeeJay, I noticed you undid my edit on first team players on loan. If you search the official website for for the first team players I added, they all appear on the first team except James Chester. Seems like if you have a squad number, your in the first team... Will you change it back please? (Without Chester since he doesn't have a squad number, should maybe be stripped of it on the Reserves article as well) lil2mas (talk) 23:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Metrodome rename?

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aboutmanutd.com

Re this edit you made to the Alan Davies article [3] have you got any evidence/details that aboutmanutd.com is not a reliable source, and thus that my edits are not reasonable (bearing in mind they're simply sourcing text that was already there). If there is such information it should be posted on one of the Utd talk articles (Talk:List of Manchester United F.C. records and statistics?] Also, why did you revert the Neil Brown reference I added relating to his international career? Eldumpo (talk) 07:48, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Opinion?

Talk:2009 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final#"Extra time" Saw that you were up and about over there and everyone over here is still celebrating the win vs Chicago or asleep.Cptnono (talk) 10:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

2013 Africa Cup of Nations qualification template

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Yeah that's one of them. I have an Amazon wishlist that I put expensive books on and check back every now and then to see if the price has come down. There was a copy for £3.95 last month so I snapped it up. The same happened with this one, that was £2.75, I bought it at the same time. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Ashes

Why? The differentiation between tests is much clearer with "==" (level 2 headings?) rather than "===". Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Because the section links to each Test in the table of contents get lost when you use Level 2 headers. It's better to have the matches under a separate level 2 header, because then it makes them more obvious in the TOC. – PeeJay 10:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. (Most appreciated.)

Well, I follow your logic. But I don't agree with you.

(By-the-way: Please prefix statements like "It's better to ..." with "I think/feel it's better to ... ", or alternatively provide a supporting reference to show that it is not just your opinion.)

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Stfu

You don't know shit about the Vikings. Stfu. It's not made up analysis, its THE TRUTH. LEARN SOME. --฿aous•the•Deacon 22:02, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

The tone of the text I inputted is inappropriate? There is no tone, all that's spoken is the FACTS. I'm a bigger Vikings fan than any, and I'll be the first to tell you what a disappointing season it was, marred by all the distractions that I mentioned there. When people look back at this '10 season, people are gonna remember the Vikings as a team that was regarded 'a Super Bowl contender, but marred by distractions', that's what my insight provides to that article. Thanks. --฿aous•the•Deacon 00:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Post season QB's

Howdy! For some of the other list of quarterback pages such as Pittsburgh and Arizona I combined the post season starters table with the regular season. Before I do any more on some of the other articles I would like your opninon if you think they should be combined or remain seperated. Thanks! Gilliganfanatic 22:28, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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Just saw your recent reverts regarding Eikrem's alleged departure from Man U. Looks legit—if you believe The Sun that is. Favonian (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

2007 RWC articles.

You seem to be confusing the word "cleanup" with wholsesale reversion of my edits with no justification. I removed the large flags and ALL CAPS country names from the 2007 RWC articles because they are entirely unnecessary, serve no purpose other than decorative, and in the case of the ALL CAPS country names, are simply incorrect English. I legitimately removed this unnecessary clutter, and you decide that restoring it is somehow a "clean up". If you are going to just revert my changes, at least have the decency to say so, and justify yourself. As it is, there is no reason to restore over-sized flags and ALL CAPITALS country names. Further, the words quarter-final, semi-final, final and their derivatives are not capitalised unless part of a name. For example the 2003 Rugby World Cup Final is the name, and so capitalised, but the final of the 2003 Rugby World Cup is not. Nouse4aname (talk) 14:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

1. The articles don't revolve around the flags, so larger images that show more detail aren't necessary. If it were the article on the flags of the southern hemisphere, perhaps, but this is an article on a rugby tournament, the minor details of a flag are virtually irrelevant. Besides, there is already a small flag above, and the team name written twice (once in the score line, once above the line up). I think that is sufficient to make it clear what team is referred to.

2. English formatting rules apply no matter whether it is a heading, title, or prose. There is no justification for ALL CAPS.

3. Just because the IRB site gets it wrong, doesn't mean Wikipedia should. We use standard English language here - that means capitalisation, grammar, spelling etc etc. Nouse4aname (talk) 15:32, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

It's the English language. We use standard capitalisation rules etc on Wikipedia. The IRB can refer to them how they like, but they aren't following the same rules that Wikipedia does. Unless quarter-final etc is a proper noun (which it isn't) then it is not capitalised. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters). This also covers why ALL CAPS nation names should not be used. Nouse4aname (talk) 15:50, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

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2011 Cricket World Cup

Hello PeeJay2K3, I have noticed that you were in a dispute with a user, Ashwinikalantri. I have had the same problem with him for for the past week. I've warned him and started a couple of dispute resolutions but his acts like he owns the page. This has been going on for too long and I don't have time to waste on people who are stubborn and don't abide to the guidelines. Could you please join in on this dispute and help finish it once and for all, Talk:2011 Cricket World Cup#Matches section. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 07:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is something that may act as your so called "Proof"

Here are some sites which emphasize on the importance of attendance in Cricket:

• Record crowd forecast for 4th Ashes test at MCG
• austadiums.com austadiums.com
• See the second part of the thread
• Gabba crowd smashes previous record
• ‘Taxi driver test’ hinting towards great crowd attendance during Ashes: Cricket Australia
• See the match notes of Australian Innings

Do you want more? I can still provide much more of them.--Karyasuman (talk) 12:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Vote in WP:CRIC

There has been a issue in WT:CRIC that needs your vote. Thanks --06:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AshwiniKalantri (talk • contribs)

Squad template

Need your attention at this TfD. Matthew_hk tc 14:15, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Club names

Hey, I need you to take part in this discussion here. – Michael (talk) 18:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Stade de France

Will you please give up your obsession with Saint Denis and the Stade de France. In the Six Nations articles, the table lists stadiums by location according to city. There is no reason to make a special case for SdF and list the suburb as well. This is consistent across all such articles. Please also try not to be so patronising - I understand the situation perfectly well - you seem to have some issue with ownership and are unable to accept that there is no logic in including the suburb for this stadium but not others. Either they all should have the suburb included or none. This is an article about a rugby tournament. The precise geographical location of a stadium is irrelevant, which is why only the city is listed as that is all that is required. If readers want to find out the suburb that a stadium is located in, then they can go to the article about the stadium. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, I am not slagging any one off. Secondly, I have no ownership issues. I am reverting your edits because you fail to justify the inconsistency that you are introducing. Thirdly, from our very own article on Saint Denis "Saint-Denis is a commune in the northern suburbs of Paris, France" (emphasis added) and the article on the Stade de France itself "The Stade de France is the national stadium of France, situated in the Parisian suburb of Saint-Denis" (emphasis added). However, this is all irrelevant. It is by no means incorrect to suggest that the city that the Stade de France is located in is Paris. All the other stadiums in these articles are located by city, why should SdF be any different? As I have repeatedly stated, this article is on a rugby tournament - locating the stadium by city is sufficient. Nouse4aname (talk) 09:13, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I might have guessed you'd bring up the whole self referencing thing - are you suggesting that these articles are wrong? Anyway, I am not disputing that SdF is in Saint-Denis. Just like Twickenham Stadium is in Twickenham. But we don't list Twickenham Stadium by the suburb/borough/district it is in, it is by city. That is all that is required. To make a special case for SdF for no reason is inconsistent and pointless. Nouse4aname (talk) 13:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Further, not that it matters, but the Six Nations site refers to the "Parisian suburb of Saint Denis" here, and the city information is for Paris, not Saint-Denis, and in the ground guide Saint Denis is again referred to as a "suburb in the north of Paris". The point remains that including the suburb/district/borough for one stadium is inconsistent and unnecessary. Listing only the city is sufficient for the context of the article. Nouse4aname (talk) 13:36, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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You kinda messed up the 2009 ICC World Twenty20 article

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Runners-up in honours section?

A quick search reveals two threads on this subject (perhaps "ad nauseum" was a bit O.T.T.) - see here and here. As you can see, neither discussion was exactly conclusive; in the absence of a firm consenus, I suggest that the article on Jim McCalliog should stay as it is now; i.e before your changes to the Honours section. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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First, I thought WP was a freely editable encyclopedia. I can make edits in good faith. If you feel differently, kindly discuss. Using toss in the way I have, only uses wasted space and standardizes the way it is represented. If you feel this way of representation wrong, please give a logical reason. Please dont be scared of change, it can be good! ;) --ashwinikalantri ^talk 20:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

If only you would spend some of your time doing something constructive! Now that you have things your way, would you like to discuss your rampage? ashwinikalantri ^talk 20:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I've commented on the issue at WT:CRIC. This needs to be resolved through talk page discussion rather than reverts. Nev1 (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

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2010 FIFA World Cup squads

This edit is a bit of a mess. German clubs use the extension since the city may, and in the case of all the clubs you change does, have additional clubs in the city. There's an agreement somewhere on Wikipedia. If I can find it I'll show you. Do you mind reverting that part of your change? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

That didn't take me too long. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 49#German club names. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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Hello. Re Olympique Marseille/Marseille, you may well be right that Marseille is more common in literate English sources, though I'm not convinced. Let's hope any disagreement between English editors about what the common name actually is, doesn't just encourage the anon's POV... Even so, I'd still argue that using the full-ish name in infoboxes and tables and first use in prose, for clarity and to establish context, is in general a more constructive approach, because we're not just writing for the knowledgeable reader. Not everyone knows that "Olympique Marseille" and "Marseille" are the same thing, and not displaying the full-ish name anywhere in the article isn't particularly helpful. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you'd feel differently if there was plenty of prose, so most of the mentions would quite rightly be just Marseille? rather than, as in this article, one infobox, one footballbox with the name 3 times, and one mini-para of prose. How about keeping Olympique M in the infobox, opening sentence, and scoreline of footballbox (where, incidentally, it has Red Star Belgrade rather than just Red Star), and just Marseille (and Red Star) under the kits and above the team lists? Don't worry, I'm not going to join the edit war, only got involved at all because you posted at WT:FOOTY. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:51, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Match listing

You seem to be jumbling the matches of the Cricket World Cup. Could you explain rationale behind it? I am unable to understand why it should be listed as "Winner of QF 4 v Winner of QF 3" rather than the conventional "Winner of QF 3 v Winner of QF 4". Also why are you jumbling up the QF sequence? They need to be chronological. ashwinikalantri ^talk 19:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

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Owen Hargreaves

Are you sure it's not noteworthy? It pretty much sums up his career at Manchester United. Kingjeff (talk) 21:23, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Derry

See WP:IMOS. The city is called Derry, the county Londonderry. --John (talk) 14:37, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

1956 European Cup Final / 1956 European Cup

Hi,

I was wondering why you deleted the link i put?

Why did you report it as spam? Do you think it's off-topic? I think the article is very informative and well deserves to be linked from wikipedia.

Thanks

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"if you can't be arsed to read back through discussions, that's not our problem" said you to me after deleting my edit on FIFA 10 page. Well, if you can´t be polite, the problem is yours, not mine. If you want to be rude to me, forget the idea: I can´t stand people talking to me that way because I always express my p.o.v. being respectful with anyone, so I expect the same from you, right?. I hope you change your manners (at least towards me), thanks. Fma12 (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

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I had no idea. Is it? I knew it wasn't a commonly-done thing, which is why, when MLITH asked me to make an updated version of the 2003-04 kits for the write-up we're trying to improve on the Spurs 3-4 City FA Cup game, I made two versions: one with sponsorships and one without. I simply liked the "embellished" style, so I made a further one. If that's against consensus then I'll take them down again. I can only presume that the reason it's frowned upon is because of the sponsorships? I can see no other reason it would be sensible to outright edict against such things otherwise, n'est pas? Falastur2 ^Talk 16:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough, and I'll accept that my kit graphics probably don't meet any sort of inclusion rationales (though I figured they were so horrendously low-resolution that I could legitimately argue that whether or not they represented existing logos is entirely a matter of an individual's opinion...). However, since I noticed that you recently took down the City badge from the various articles, can I draw your attention to this? Does not that City badge satisfy all 10 of the inclusion criteria, therefore making it eligible for use? Falastur2 ^Talk 21:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring and MoS "debate" at 2010–11 Manchester City F.C. season

Sorry for the copy-pasta but I wanted to consult both yourself and OldElPaso - I'm sure you'll understand where I'm coming from here. This is nothing more than a consultation, if I may? You may well already have seen the various stuff going on in the above linked article. While I don't disagree so wholly with the edits as Mancini's Lasagne does, I do broadly disagree with Digirami's assertion that it is an abomination that the said article does not look exactly like every other club's, nor that the existence of one infobox means that it MUST be used in all cases. However, I am unsure how to counter without simply be drawn into an edit war. Does Wikipedia policy really dictate that our article may not do things even a little differently, or is there actually a valid defence against Digirami doing what essentially seems to be a case of imprinting his layout of choice onto the said article? Falastur2 ^Talk 23:15, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

1991 and all that

Hello, and thanks for taking it to the talk page, wish I'd had the brains to do that in the first place. I've made a suggestion there which I hope you can agree to: personally, I don't have a problem with the Serbian succession being mentioned on the article, but purely as an aside, and hopefully that will be enough history education. We did "The Balkan Question" – the 19th-century version – at school and I never understood it then. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

revert?

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United v Town 9 - 0

Hey dude. Hope you liked the couple of additions I made. But I noticed you put the spacing back into the scoreline in the main match description. I just wondered why you wanted this to be inconsistent with the other scorelines on the page? It's no big deal but I thought we should be, at least, internally consistent...? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. I was thinking about expanding it a little more, somewhat masochistically! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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I am new to this Wikipedia thing but am trying to edit former rugby players wikipedia pages to give a more up to date account. i have been trying to change James' for a while now but it seems to keep being changed back to the original. I can't understand why it keeps being undone to the original when the information I have put on is true and up to date. You say my references dont seem to be appearing..do you know how I can sort this out? If you want you can have the credit for the page but I really believe my entry is more representative of James. Please help so this issue can be resolved. You seem an expert at this wikipedia thing and I would really appreciate your help in sorting this out. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahrah22 (talk • contribs) 13:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and the explanation for the changes. I am not very computer savvy, and wikipedia is all new to me and am learning how to properly use it. On my edits it says I have made references to changes I have made. Do I have to make reference to every change that I have made throughout the article? i.e proof of school, barbarians etc? If I send you the link to the proof could you use my paragraph with the sources to help make james' page more up to date for all wikipedia users? Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahrah22 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

PeeJay,

Thanks for getting back to me quickly on this and for being so helpful. I have managed to get sources for the information on my changes, hope these are all ok so that the entry can be changed.

Barbarians squad - http://www.rfu.com/News/2007/May/News%20Articles/BarbariansNameSquadForSummerTour.aspx?a=1&y=2007 Scarlets – http://scarlets.co.uk/eng/1324.php Coventry – http://www.thefreelibrary.com/RUGBY+UNION+Coventry+pounce+for+young+stars.-a060494659 Liverpool sporting alumni – http://www.liv.ac.uk/insight/Insight_Autumn07.pdf NYAC – http://www.erugbynews.com/article.php?sec=123&a=4811 U21 – http://www.thefreelibrary.com/RUGBY+UNION+Coventry+pounce+for+young+stars.-a060494659 KES – http://www.enotes.com/topic/King_Edward_VI_School_Stratford-upon-Avon

Interview/most things included – http://www.thefreelibrary.com/RUGBY+UNION+Coventry+pounce+for+young+stars.-a060494659

James has also just moved into the lithium mining industry as a marketing director for Western LithiumUSA Corporation. Information on this can be found at - http://www.minesandmoney.com/london/presentations/2009/Day2/MMLondon2009-Day2-James-Hayter-Western-Lithium.pdf

Once again thanks for helping me out with this, really appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahrah22 (talk • contribs) 13:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi PeeJay,

Sorry to keep hassling you with this but I would really like the correct information for James to be on Wikipedia to give a true reflection on the player. Was there a problem with the links I sent to you?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahrah22 (talk • contribs) 10:00, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Our contact seems to have subsided recently. I have posted the links on this discussion board, if they are not right then please let me know. Was really hoping to have James' page sorted by now, hope you have time to help me out soon.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahrah22 (talk • contribs) 09:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

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Ben Amos

Hey PeeJay, I was going to revert your edit but I thought it better to discuss first. The criteria for a mid-rated article is "Teams with nationwide notability. Players or managers that have participated at international level or in a top-level league. Mid-level leagues." Looking at the talk page there, the general consensus appears to be stricter than that in the guidelines anyway. Ben Amos hasn't actually played in the league for United, and even if he had it seems silly to give such a high ranking to someone who's only played 29 career games, most of which at quite a low level. doomgaze (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

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Bias?

I'm baffled. Where? Stevo1000 (talk) 23:41, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Was it this?

As of the 25 April 2011, Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City are still eligible to qualify through winning the 2010–11 Premier League title. The champions will then either play Manchester City or Stoke City depending on which club is victorious in the the 2011 FA Cup Final. Only Manchester City still have the opportunity to qualify through both the Premier League and FA Cup. In such an event, the Charity Shield will be contested between Manchester City and the 2010–11 Premier League runner-up.

I certainly don't think it is showing bias at all. All I'm doing is explaining what is an anomaly. I'd do it for any other team too as a reader might be confused at how a club can qualify through both the Premier League and FA Cup. Don't you think? Stevo1000 (talk) 23:43, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

You see my point about the anomaly? I'd explain it for any other club(s) if they were still in City's situation, its nothing to do with bias. And I know it will be a shame for you to have to take that banner down within the next couple of years. Stevo1000 (talk) 23:51, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I have been thinking of giving the Manchester Derby page a good revamp. Honestly, I think its a bit of a mess and it is definitely not a coherent article. Most importantly, I really cannot believe there is absolutely nothing on the late 1960s when the rivalry, or comradeship was at his peak back then. It's a shame there are too many editors who monitor the page and totally misunderstand the historical relationship between both clubs.

My difficulty is whenever I do make a constructive edit, someone will say something like: "oh that is making the article too recentist" and your left thinking "wait up, I am revamping the page from 2011 back, give me a chance" - it is hugely frustrating. I would love to see the page as a featured article as a proud Mancunian but I feel there are too many editors monitoring the page which are hinder any possibility of this.

I've tried to talk a few round such by urging them to make constructive edits to improve the page and give some leniency to my edits as I have nothing but good intentions to improve the page. Their responses have been tepid to say the least and I'd put money on my edits being rolled-back if I decided to revamp the page. Stevo1000 (talk) 00:35, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

That might be idea. If I have time in the future, I'll do a draft in my userspace and then we can see what can be worth adding and what should be removed. Stevo1000 (talk) 15:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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Actually had you of looked through my version then would've realised there wasn't A.C. and you can look right now! You're trying to overrule the changes I'm making. Taking away the under-23 goals for no reason? Healy10 (talk) 11:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Bit of a mug aren't you? stop trying to correct every little bit of revision for your liking as you aren't the wikipedia GOD. Sit down and behave OK PJ! Healy10 (talk) 00:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You're the man who knows it all. Healy10 (talk) 00:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

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John Ramshaw

I've finally managed to get the infobox almost there. I only knew about Arnold Town as I've kept an eye on him, due to being on the Hucknall Town committee when they were ascending the pyramid under his management. Bevo74 (talk) 14:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Why?

I did this because completed templates shouldn't have the closing markers on the same line as the last parameter as is demonstrated at Template:Footballbox. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I've never seen a Wikipedia directive that says the closing tags shouldn't be on the same line as the final parameter. Where did you read this? – PeeJay 01:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not a directive per se, I've always seen templates closed on the line after. Check various template examples. It's not a big deal though and syntactically identical. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

What about for templates like {{cite web}}? – PeeJay 08:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

When it's on a single line, I see it end after the last parameter. When each parameter is on its own line, I've seen it close on the line after. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Done as you suggested, thanks! U+003F^? 14:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

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anderson fee

what do you mean contentious, i posted a link direct from porto fc themselves, a document they sent their own shareholders quoting the price to be €30m for anderson, fees quoted on newspapers and websites are contentious but when a club themselves outline the exact fee how is it contentious then unless you are arguing both porto and sporting lied to their shareholders about fees received, for the record nani cost €25.5m so the two combined €55.5m, there is no argument, thats how much they cost, http://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR13708.pdf

portugese clubs always send a memo to shareholders outlining fee received for players e.g others

raul meireles to liverpool http://www.fcporto.pt/IncFCP/PDF/Investor_Relations/FactosRelevantes/VendaRaulMeireles29082010.pdf ronaldo to man utd http://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/fsd6380.pdf david luiz to chelsea http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR31637.pdf david luiz to chelsea —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.155.211 (talk) 17:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

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That link to YouTube was to The FA's official Youtube channel, that's there choice of medium and they are happy to do that. And how is linking to City's website copyright infringement? Their content is copyright, but if they choose to publish video highlights on THEIR website then there is no copyright infringement. Linking to a website that does not have permission to show highlights is copyright infringement i.e. unauthorised Youtube highlights. It is my understanding that from the Monday after the weekend when the match is played the clubs who played have the rights over what to do with the video highlights. City broadcast match highlights free while Stoke City video highlights are pay-per-view. Preferably speaking, I would rather have the highlights from the FA YouTube channel than from City's, ideally on the FA website but there is not guarantee video highlights will remain there. And it has always been my understanding that a few external links are permitted, I have no intention of building a reference bank for readers. Stevo1000 (talk) 02:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

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Shouldn't Hargreaves release note be in next season article and not current one? same as past seasons articles. It's already mentioned in next season one.
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In the discussion section I've already explained, why the recent pic, showing the hidden face a fat, old man doesn't fit. If you've a better pic, please upload it; otherwise the pic from 1977 should remain there. MiNeum71 (talk) 05:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

He's dead now, do you want to use the pic showing his dead face in the grave? Btw, it's quite common to use a pic, which represents the person best; I know, that's sometimes very difficult, speciall when the person has been active for a long time. You can't know this because of your missing knowledge of the Iranian football hsitory, but you should know, that Hejazi was beloved because of his efforts during his active career and not because of the managerial activities.

PS: If you are Welsh, can you organise the match Iran vs. Wales in 1978; I think, this was covered by ITV. Be sure, I will be very generous ;) MiNeum71 (talk) 18:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment on content not contributor

Please don't assume to know anything about me. I made an edit in accordance with WP:OPENPARA which you have just reverted with comments on me and not the edit. Tell me why someone's ethnicity is relevant to the opening line in breach of above MOS? Mo ainm~Talk 15:59, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

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Reverts/Edits On Pages "2011-12 Manchester United F.C. season" and "Ben Amos"

Dear PeeJayK23, We are aware of your kind intentions over the reverts and edits on the above-mentioned pages, but, there are two things we would like to warn you about.

• Please do not revert edits repeatedly, instead try to contact the user via the talk page on the article or his user talk page, because an edit war is waiting to happen (on page "Ben Amos")
• DO NOT put David de Gea as an "IN" transfer for page "2011-12 Manchester United F.C. season", because he is not signed to United, and may never be, even though it is reportedly true that United will announce his signing to the club two days after the Champions League final. This classifies under vandalism.

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May 2011

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Mo ainm. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Calling an editor a liar is a personal attack Mo ainm~Talk 07:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

No Respect (DAVID DE GEA IS NOT IN MAN U)

Once again, I have to tell you. STOP IT. Stop stopping people and their edits on Wikipedia. You must learn to respect people's edits and/or reverts. You actually have started an edit war on pages "Ben Amos" and "2011-12 Manchester United F.C. season". You seem to ignore messages, and you abused User talk:Mo ainm. Seriously, Wikipedia's aim is to spread public information of stuff for research. If you revert edits and just think you are right, then dear Tom, you must know you are not the kind of editor Wikipedia wants. Tom Jones, understand this: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. An encyclopaedia, from the top of the first page to the bottom of the last page, contains detailed information that can be picked up easily with one scan of the eyes. Wikipedia is more like a convenient encyclopaedia. You want important information, you just have to read through the article. In "Ben Amos", I added the long summary so a casual reader will be able to understand the later parts of the article. And in "2011-12 Manchester United F.C. season", I added Kit Changes and Search for Replacements so a casual reader will get a full picture of who Man Utd wanted to buy and how the kit looked like. I will revert your reverts for the last time. If you were to revert it again, I'll appeal for a block and report you. Because, TOM PARRY JONES, your actions will prove your worth on Wikipedia and how fake you are as a Manchester United fan. I'M SERIOUS. EspañolDaLanguage!AmorEspaña! (talk) 08:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, why did you deleted my formation pic and added yours at UCL Final? Was i wrong? Right now it is shows the left team (home team) plays from top to bottom and not vice versa like it normally does. Kante4 (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Next time then the UEFA source it seems. ;-) Btw: How do you add the barca trikots? I copied the one from a earlier match with the red-blue kits. How to make those "lines", "stripes"? Kante4 (talk) 20:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

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Could you explain your revert on the above article in light of your previous comments were you stated that a footballers nationality was "...defined by his country of birth and the national football team he plays for". Mo ainm~Talk 09:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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John Chapman

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*****finals

Hey PJ.

Really? The words "semifinal" and "quarterfinal" exist in Wiktionary: [4] [5].

Now, are you going to change back yourself, or will I have to do it?

Cheers.

HandsomeFella (talk) 19:27, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

(moved here from HandsomeFella's talkpage)

Those words do not exist in British English, which is what the articles to which those navboxes relate were written in. Please respect WP:ENGVAR. – PeeJay 02:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

First, to be able to follow a discussion, it's best to keep it on one talkpage, so I moved your response here. Please respond here. I have your talkpage on my watchlist.

Second, could you please elaborate on why you believe that those words do not exist in British English? How did they find their way into the wiktionary then? In fact, the "semi-final" page [6] in wiktionary is the lesser one, and only described as an alternative spelling of "semifinal". Please check the links I provide.

Have you read the WP:HYPHEN section in the Manual of Style? I quote:

There is a clear trend to join both elements in all varieties of English (subsection, nonlinear), particularly in American English. British English tends to hyphenate when the letters brought into contact are the same (non-negotiable, sub-basement) or are vowels (pre-industrial), or where a word is uncommon (co-proposed, re-target) or may be misread (sub-era, not subera). American English reflects the same factors, but tends to close up without a hyphen when possible. Consult a good dictionary, and see WP:ENGVAR.

(My bold)

None of the four cases mentioning a tendency in British English fit in on semifinal or quarterfinal. Any comment?

HandsomeFella (talk) 07:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

(moved here from HandsomeFella's talkpage)

First of all, I have the right to respond wherever I choose; as long as you can read it and respond to it, it doesn't matter where I reply. Second, if you look at the Oxford English Dictionary, you will see that words of that ilk are written as hyphenated words. Furthermore, FIFA uses hyphens in those words, as do the articles to which the navboxes relate. – PeeJay 21:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Of course you have that right, it was just a friendly advice to improve readability for anyone who tries to follow this discussion, including you and me, and nothing to be angry or irritated about. But if you prefer to zig-zag between talkpages, by all means.

I was going to notify you that I had started a thread at the MoS talkpage, but I can see from your comment there, that you've discovered it by yourself.

Have a nice day.

HandsomeFella (talk) 14:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion help

Hi, I've listed an article for deletion and need help listing it properly. How am I supposed to make it show up on the main AfD page? Hermione is a dude (talk) 00:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that was exactly what I needed! Hermione is a dude (talk) 00:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Conor Devlin

I searched for a news online but did not find any, I saw the Bebe and Devlin on TV (Sport channel which shows only offical announcements) -
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 10:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you, hopefully they will mention it, as past seasons only the BBC published youngsters releases.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 10:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Man Utd kits

Funnily enough I did come across that website yesterday and it did help me with the 2000/01 uniforms, very handy site indeed. VEO^onefive 19:13, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

In Reply

Just to advise i am having nothing to do with it any issue us between yourself and User:DUCKISJAMMMY. My intelligence is not in question. As i have been asked i have added the page to my watchlist and will try and update when i can. 20:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Warburton1368 (talk)

I will accept that. Happy Editing. 21:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Warburton1368 (talk)

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Hint needed

Hi, might you be kind enough to tell me what software you use to create images like this? Also I'd appreciate to get some additional info, for instance those regarding the basic pictures that you employ to compose the whole thing and the technique whereby you align on the pitch the jerseys. Thanks in advance. --87.6.115.207 (talk) 13:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

P.S.: Please answer on this page, just below this message.

Many thanks. Thankfully it's easier than what I had supposed. Bye bye. --82.61.50.135 (talk) 09:54, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Man United Academy Players Professional status

Hey, I'm not gonna edit the page any more knowing that you will undo it time and time again. It is a waste of my time, possibly yours too. However, don't you think that the retained/released players lists published by the official Premier League website at the end of the season 2010-11 has enough credibility?

I'll provide the link [7] to you, and it's not only Marnick Vermijl, other kids too, are identified as being signed Professional contracts.

If you are still very much stubborn to insist the page remaining the way you want it to be other than the correct one, fine, I couldn't care less. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.128.166 (talk) 23:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Scottish football transfers 2011–12

Question: When adding a transfer where the player is moving from a different sport am I right by putting free agent or is there something more suitable instead. (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 19:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC))

Appreciated (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 20:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC))

Would you have an issue with me adding photos & a caption to the Scottish transfer list somewhat like this although no photos at the top just at the side.(DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC))

Don't worry about the thing with Soccer-holic its sorted. Whats your opinion on the question above. (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 23:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC))

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What is this here is it something for me to worry about could you explain. (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2011 (UTC))

Ok Thanks :) (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 00:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC))

Creating the playoff bracket with 16 teams advanced from 6 groups at some football tournaments

You erased my contribution. Please give it back or create a new page with this. This playoff system is relevant and must remain somewhere on Wikipedia. Maiō T. (talk) 10:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

List of English football transfers summer 2011

I would like to apologize as now I see that you weren't acting out of spite or being vindictive as I have read the discussion on scottish football transfers in Wikipedia talk:WikiProjectFootball you were just trying to act within the guidelines.Maybe if the guidelines were better outlined we could of avoided this conflict. However what lead me to believe you were acting in a malicious manner is in your first correspondence you used aggrevise & offensive language as result I would urge you to apologize also, So we can work together on current & future football page in productive & helpful manner. (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 11:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC)}

Thank You (DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 12:31, 23 June 2011 (UTC))

User:Lloydf640 really messed up the English football transfers & I had to send him the following message :

Hey there, I appreciate you putting the 1st of July transfers in alphabetical order in even do it’s not necessary, I will leave it like that, however I urge you to be more careful when editing as you messed up Rob Edwards flag icon & you created a dead link to Villarreal on the Valero transfer. You also re-added the Scott Wootton transfer which I also added but have since learned it’s not official read this. Also you put Darren Pratley as unattached as his contract with Swansea only ran out on the 30 June & he joined Bolton on 1st of June a matter of hours later it’s not really accurate to call him unattached because if you considered him unattached then all the free transfers on the 1st July would also have to say unattached. Also you deleted the Kingsley James & Phil Roe transfers who moved from Sheffield United to Port Vale as they were not considered unattached see here & Sheffield United are a championship side the transfers need to be included. You deleted the Mehdi Abeid transfer which happened on the 1st July, the previous transfer in May was deleted as he was only on trial; you deleted the one in June leaving no versions of the transfer at all. You also deleted Donal McDermott’s flag icon. Finally you also messed Paul McKenna’s link sending users to English hypnotist rather than the footballer & sent users to Patrick McLaughlin’s disambiguation page where he is not as he doesn’t have a wiki page & you deleted his flag.I hope you continue to add missing transfers in the further, however I ask you be more diligent, Regards.

Anyway it’s a pretty lengthy list of mistakes which I had to fix manually as he did 2 edits, which took a long time partly cause of numbers of mistakes & also somewhere less obvious. If he does it again in the further will you talk to him as you’re a more experienced editor & he may listen to you.(DUCKISJAMMMY (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC))

One administrator does not know what another one is doing

Administrator Skamecrazy123 (talk) wrote this message to me:

Hello, I notice that you recently created a new page, Knockout Stage with 16 teams from six groups. ... Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page - Single-elimination tournament. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion.

In the next message he proposed to merge these two pages.
The result? Both - new page & new contribution in the Single-elimination tournament page are cut off.
What can I do now? I want this playoff-system in Wikipedia.
I never knew how teams from six groups are allocated into the Last-16-bracket. Finally I found this on the internet and I want to share this thing in Wikipedia.
Please, do something! Maiō T. (talk) 11:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Woah woah woah, I am not an administrator, I merely nominated the page for deletion --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

"Reducing three groups of four teams to a knockout stage of 8 teams" - that's a very good idea, too

OK, I will not change this (your) page anymore, however I want a brand new page in Wikipedia, on which will be written about methods of reducing groups to a knockout stages. But, I think, it will not last a long time. :(
Maiō T. (talk) 12:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Just putting my two cents worth in here. You must indicate notability. If the thing you write about is not notable (if it does not have coverage in reliable third party sources) then there is a high chance it could be deleted. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 20:19, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

John Arne Riise

Why are you reverting my edit? There are no flags in that edit, what is your problem!? 62.50.175.31 (talk) 21:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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I obviously disagree. You say the draw was done with numbers but the match 35, match 38 etc used in the wiki article formed absolutely no part of the draw so I don't buy that argument. Teams were split into groups per here. Five seeds, five non seeds. UEFA then drew numbers 1 to 5 for seeds and 1 to 5 for non seeds and simply paired each number in each group as you'll see if you click on the relevant UEFA page and especially if you click "replay draw." You'll also see from that that UEFA used a "team A/team B" format rather than a "winners of match X" format and it's obvious to see why. It's much easier if you're looking for your team's opponent(s) to see them at a glance rather than have to further hunt above for "winners of match whatever" something which violates the spirit of WP:EASTEREGG. I'll copy this to the article's talk page but needless to say, I believe we should go with the format which UEFA themselves use, not one made up by Wikipedia editors. Valenciano (talk) 01:07, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

flags

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Scrollable reflists

That's fine with me. I'll remove them. But, doesn't it look bad to have a list of hundreds of references making you to scroll down for a while? Would you leave it this way? Cheers. Qampunen (talk) 12:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC) Sure. See you another time ;) Qampunen (talk) 12:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I really don't mind sorting the summer transfer list as it is right now, but is there a specific reason for this sudden change in format? Apparently the outcome is the same, but is it really necessary? Again, I'm not against using this format. Anything which tires to improve the article is welcome and great. It's a real shame that the scrollable reflist was removed, though. Qampunen (talk) 22:03, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, PeeJay2K3... I try to update the article with the new format as best as I can. I think I'm getting used to it now. Cheers ;) Qampunen (talk) 22:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

We've solved the problem now... It was a stupid minor thing (>) !!!!!!!!!! Thanks for trying anyway... Qampunen (talk) 10:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Copa Libertadores final

I left you a message on wikimedia commons (here) but then I realized you might not check your discussion page as often as you do on english wikipedia. Basically I was wondering if you could make svg images of the lineups used in the two games of the 2011 Copa Libertadores final (I noticed you have made such images for other games). There are links to official data on your discussion page on commons.

Thanks in advance and apologies for any trouble. Cheers.–Nuno93 (talk) 13:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be great, thanks! Being uruguayan I dunno if its ok to say it this way, but up the Red Devils!–Nuno93 (talk) 13:34, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Cheers.—Nuno93 (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Dont worry about it, there was no rush.—Nuno93 (talk) 02:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

ALT text

Hi mate, I was wondering if you could maybe edit the images in List of Manchester United F.C. players (25–99 appearances) to include Alternative text for images, as I my self not sure what to write there to fit.

As I'm trying to get that list FLC aswell.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 19:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the addition.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 02:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Slight problem (happens every year...)

Any ideas on how to repair the problem with the references (List of Spanish football transfers summer 2011)? Qampunen (talk) 22:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

There was a missing > in one of the refs, It is now fixed.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 02:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Squad numbers

Hi PeeJay, ManUtd removed the 4 players numbers, as of here First-Team, Please note that acording to Reds name tour squad - "The trio's squad numbers for the tour will be as follows - de Gea 1, Jones 4 and Young 18. However fans should note that as these numbers have not yet been registered with the Premier League, they could change for the season." Thats why we should remove the numbers like the offical website does.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 02:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Question

Why did you revert my edit? ΔT _{^{The only constant}} 11:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Scott Wootton

Seriously, you are being ridiculous now. http://www.theposh.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10427~2394297,00.html This link is from the Peterborough United Official Website, where the squad numbers have been "officially" announced. Fans will be able to get shirt numbers on the back of their shirts because they trust the official website has officially confirmed their numbers for the 2011/12 season. Sometime there are transfers that are never officially announced. If Scott Wootton plays for Peterborough on the first game of the season, will you still not consider him a Peterborough player because he has not been officially announced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.96.38 (talk) 17:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Runner-up in Europa League

Hi PeeJay, do you think I should remove all Fulham players with Europa League 'runner-up' in their Honours list? Zoltán Gera and Clint Dempsey for example? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Champions League qualifying process

Fair enough, thanks for assuming good faith, I was merely making the page consistant with the past 2 champions league season articles (2010–11, 2009–10) which use path and non-champions instead of route and league. Should they be changed too or was that what they used to be called? Delusion23 (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

No worries :) I should've checked the official site to see what was being used by UEFA before making the changes. Cheers Delusion23 (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Frank Kopel

What was this about? An article for a footballer who had an eighteen-year career at the highest level of the sport is a paragraph long and it's "definitely not a stub"? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 09:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hi there PEEJAY, VASCO here, longtime no talk,

i did not alter anything out of respect for your work, but after continuing to see the infoboxes scrambled up, instead of lined up (i.e. Gabriel Heinze, Ricardo López Felipe), i ask you what is the technicality i am missing there? I would really like to know, to avoid making a "bad move"...Always learning!

Keep it up, happy weekend - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 00:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hey PeeJay, I'm just following Template:Cite news. Cheers, doomgaze (talk) 11:43, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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Michael Carrick

Well spotted :-) I never noticed they'd taken 2 edits to add that cat... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Football/sandbox

Im Hoping you might be able to help ive set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Scotland task force i think ive created all the correct categories but not one hundred percent sure. i tried to get the code correct for the taskforce label to display on Template:Football on Template:Football/sandbox but cant get it to work. Im know sure if done something wrong but not sure what. Would you be able to take a quick look. Would really appreciate it. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks just hope i got the categories correct as well. I take i now just copy the text from the sandbox into the discussion page at the main template WP:FOOTY template for approval or am i wrong. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:55, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

The reason im thinking the categories may be wrong is on the template i have |TF_10_ASSESSMENT_CAT = football in Scotland articles. But i havent created one labeled that but that wasnt in the instructions and other task forces dont seem to have one labeled like that eithier. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:01, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help its really appreciated. Would it be ok to ask for your help again if anything else comes up as i am sure it will as creating this has been above my usual wiki skill base. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

does it normally take this long for an admin to update a template. Warburton1368 (talk) 16:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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who cares?? is ugly in the source but no in the page¡¡ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuyalex (talk • contribs) 05:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Sam Johnstone loan

I have removed him from the loans list, will wait for ManUtd statement about the goalkeeper.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

My opinion is that until he actually sign some loan contract we wouldn't add him, same as Wootton (Peterbourgh), King (B. Mönchengladbach), Norwood and Drinkwater (both Blackpool).
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 18:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Featured Topic help

Hi. I'd be inclined towards including it as I imagine some reviewers would see it is as a notable omission. I've had a look at the Villa FTC and Woody's reasoning for not inlucing a POTY list is a lack of resources. This doesn't appear to be the case with the MUFC list. But at the end of the day what matters is the topic being complete and there being "no obvious gap" (per the criteria). So, it depends really whether you feel it would be an important enough part of the topic. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

MUFC topic

Hiya,

I think you'll probably be alright with the ones you listed. I'd think you could argue that the PotY list is not an integral part of the topic, in fact I'm sure I've seen that specifically stated before now with regard to the other two you mention, although for the life of me I can't remember where...... ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page by the way. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in. You may want to consider including Bank Street and North Road, which I think are already GA and FA. The York City topic included their former ground. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:33, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey PeeJay, I made a model on how it might look like, see Here. What do you think?
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 22:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure m8, I will start the History articles once I come from work tomorrow. and hopefully the 25–99 apps article will also be reviewed and promoted.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 22:21, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 22:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm really not up on books at all..... :-] -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:35, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Mud-slinging

It really is very sweet that you're trying to come back at me with unfounded insults instead of swallowing your pride and taking responsibility. Why on earth would you suggest that some faction of WP:FOOTY members is attempting to fabricate attendance figures in the first place? The very thought is utterly ridiculous, and such accusations are unlikely to endear you to anyone. If information is not accompanied by a source, remove it; simple as that. – PeeJay 14:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I hardly believe that the attendance figures are fabricated as I am sure that they are coming for a source which is quite legitimate and therefore it should be referenced. Since you are a great believer in placing up to date sourced information of wikipages I am very surprised that you let the attendance figures slide in your usual cleanup effort of the Europa League/Champions League pages. Which seems to me that you do know where the attendances are coming from. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 14:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I also have faith that the attendances are coming from a reliable source, but you expressed concerns over the source of the attendances, so it seemed that you were more worried about it than I was. I mean, why are you throwing accusations all over the place if you're not bothered. – PeeJay 14:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I am bothered because I placed an attendance for a game (which I could of referenced) and it was corrected with another figure. Again if you know where that attendance figure is coming why are you not releasing the source? Pretty simple question isn't it? Brudder Andrusha (talk) 14:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I am the person that added all the attendances(at least most of it), I have no reason to fabricate attendances. Syjytg (talk) 13:12, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

• As per your suggestion I have opened an entry in the Talk:2011–12 UEFA Europa League qualifying phase and play-off round as a start to the process of deleting attendance figures if they are not sourced. I am awaiting your contribution to this thread. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 15:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Scottish Task Force

Nice one, that will certainly save an enormous amount of time & effort, myself or warburton will make a request when the task force is fully functioning. (★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★) 23:20, 28 July 2011 (UTC))

Ruud van Nistelrooy

User:Raulseixas asked me to ask you this: Can we change the player's position to STRIKER? This guy is a pure striker, one of the best in the last 15 years. I feel we should differentiate between STRIKER (more static player, plays inside the box) and FORWARD (do not score as many goals per season, operate also in the wings, especially in the 4-3-3 system - Pedro Rodríguez Ledesma, Michael Owen, Pedro Munitis come to mind).

Oh and i think that Dimitar Berbatov should also "be" a striker (the top goalscorer in the Premier League is not a striker?). Your thoughts please, happy weekend - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

• So can i change it? - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Marco Bueno

Why have you chosen to delete The marco bueno thread all is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.198.26 (talk) 23:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Manchester derby all-time results

Hey PeeJay. We know each other well enough now that I'm guessing I don't need to tell you that I don't always agree with Wikipedia's recommended practises for laying articles out and for what constitutes encyclopædic knowledge, but I am receptive to your arguments and willing to compromise. You said in the discussion on the article's talk page that you don't believe people come to the article to view results (actually that may have been someone else, but I'm sure you agreed) and I only partially accept that idea. I don't think many readers would come to this article looking to look up specific results, but I DO think that many people would read this article wanting to get a fair impression of how successful the two teams have been in comparison to each other in the derbies, and furthermore I believe that if that data exists only as a small part of a block of text (or even worse, spread out in a decade-by-decade analysis) it will not suit the casual reader - nor do I believe that a simple table listing how many times each team has won will do so. Now, as I've said before I actually kind of like, and support the use of, the list of results, but I see your point that these such things are frowned upon, and while to all intents and purposes I do not honestly care that they are frowned upon, I do acknowledge that this article will probably never reach FA status that way. I have my reservations about which I believe should change (i.e. the article or the FA guidelines) but I also know which will ultimately change, so I pondered this for a while and decided that the best option to my mind for replacing the results would be to implement a graphic that demonstrated a chronological progression of how the teams did. We already have a graphic for comparative league position, and I always thought that that graph looked pretty lonely. Perhaps we could replace the season-on-season results with a graphic showing something season-on-season for comparative performance? A cumulative total of derbies won, for instance, or a comparison of league points won in derby matches each, etc. To demonstrate what I mean, I've thrown together some very rough ideas which you can see in a screenshot here. Now these are just rough ideas - something I threw together over the space of about 30-40 minutes just now. I haven't even got some of the years right, but I just wanted to demonstrate what I mean. Now if we could produce a graph (or hey, maybe even two or three tops) which could be big enough to be obvious, and well-placed enough to draw attention, and situated with a decent block of text so that it doesn't look out of place, I would feel far happier about relinquishing the table of scores.

Incidentally, given how small the table for scores in cup matches is, I would actually feel stronger about keeping that than the league scores. If you want to delete that I will put up more of a resistance. However, for the time being let's work on what we have. What do you think of my proposal? Falastur2 ^Talk 00:27, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

On the inclusion/removal of the table, I can see the merit in both positions, and would happily go with consensus as I don't feel strongly either way. Perhaps one for WT:WPF? A List of Manchester derbies would resolve the issue, but I doubt it would (or should) survive an AfD.

Falustur - a points graph is a non-starter due to 2pts/3pts for a win discrepancies. A wins graph might work if the axes are made big enough for a thumbnail to be legible. Speaking of images, one which would pair well with the Tevez poster one is an image of the now-defunct Stretford End banner. There must be a suitably licensed one knocking about on Flickr or somewhere. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I think there's an image of that banner in the Stretford End article. – PeeJay 21:29, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hadn't even thought of the points discrepancy, thanks for reminding me. Another idea I had (one to compliment the other ideas, certainly not to go instead of them) was a graph charting cumulative goals scored, but it was just a vague idea. PeeJay, have you any thoughts on my ideas? Falastur2 ^Talk 21:01, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I feel the same as Oldelpaso about the points graph; it wouldn't really take off due to the change in the number of points awarded for a win. I don't really like the idea of sacrificing prose in favour of a graphical representation as I feel it dumbs down the encyclopaedia too much. Furthermore, I actually think that prose is more appropriate than a list due to the uniform attention a list would give each match. We should be selecting the important games and highlighting them in prose, devoting more attention to the more notable games. As we've apparently all agreed, people don't come to the article looking for individual results, they come for an overview of the history of the fixture, highlighted by the most memorable matches. – PeeJay 21:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree that people don't come for a list of results, but I don't believe that the natural extension is that people come to read the whole article. I reckon a good 50% come to skim for bits they are interested in, which is why I respect prose and admit its necessity, but I also value those sections which give you more of an "info-at-a-glance" side of the article. Falastur2 ^Talk 21:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

True, and I believe that the infobox and a summary table would fit the bill. I assume you're looking for something of a middle ground though? – PeeJay 21:18, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I am indeed. Something that relays how successful the two teams have been over the years, and preferably in a way that shows the periods when one club or the other had a run of form. Something about a basic adding-up of the wins, draws and losses seems to fail to adequately relate how the games have been played over the years. It's a bit like having a table of military casualties in WW2 and the eventual outcome for those countries, suggesting that the country which lost the most men de facto was the worst fighter and that is all there is to it - or to show a list of teams according to their trophies won and then suggest that that list is an accurate representation of the strength of those clubs in the present day. Just my take on the matter, anyway. It may well be that a graph is not the best solution for this anyway, not least as after every derby it would be out of date. But it's an idea... Falastur2 ^Talk 21:44, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

See, that's why I think prose is best. We can use sub-sections to split up the prose into appropriately sized chunks that summarise when each team was particularly dominant. Btw, do you think we've gotten the conversation to the point where we could take it back to the article talk page now? – PeeJay 21:50, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we should probably do that. It's getting hard counting the number of indentations now anyway. Falastur2 ^Talk 22:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Undid my revision:

Hi, Why would you undo my revision? I am new to wikipedia, what was wrong in posting that link?

Machismo500 (talk) 02:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)Machismo50002:01, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I would advise you to have a look at the video.It is the exact thing that has been said in the para of the 2 TEST — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machismo500 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011

This is your only warning; if you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced defamatory content into an article or any other Wikipedia page again, as you did at Rio Ferdinand, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I tried to be nice with you, but seems like you do not understand. You cannot go in Wikipedia saying that MUFC, UEFA, FC Barcelona and Goal.com are unreliable sources and you are right. Next time you violate the BLP policy inserting your own beliefs you will be reported. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I told you. congrats. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you stay off Tbhotch's talk page if he's removing your comment. Reminding both of you to be a little more civil.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:37, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Please do not make personal attacks, especially on a user's own talk page. If you continue you will be blocked.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Report at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Rio Ferdinand. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

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Why you undid mi edition???? Chuyalex (talk) 00:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thank's for the aclaration. Chuyalex (talk) 00:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

List of English football transfers summer 2011

The transfer list is in sorry state, It has numerous amount of unreferenced transfers, most of which are true but do still require a reference as they're not listed in BBC transfers in general references. I would amended the issue myself but I have been able to edit the page for number of days as I keeping error messages when trying to save the page or see preview & it took me 3 attempts just to add BBC August 2011 transfers early today. I was wondering if you had the time later today could you please sort the issue on the page. (★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★) 13:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC))

Hi, again

But wait a second, why FC Barcelona have the sponsor???? Chuyalex (talk) 22:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Number 7 Jersey of Man United

Hi Tom,

 I see you deleted the Number 7 jersey related stuff from Man United feature page. 

What is the specific reason? We can discuss on how to include this piece of information in this article as per the wikipedia standard. Thanks, AbhijitJit bec (talk) 06:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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A pie for you!

Thanks for the help with the templates. You rock. JonBroxton (talk) 02:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Assessment

Yeah i now know that to be honest having major problems with it actually starting to get fed up with it. When i started doing it i tried that but couldn't get it to work so assumed that it wasn't physically possible but i have now. Warburton1368 (talk) 10:25, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

It should only have a small number of articles around fifteen affected as we only just decided on a importance scales. One thing thats surprised me is the amount of articles i have found that didn't even have the main project football banner on it. Warburton1368 (talk) 11:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Task force assessement

Hi PeeJay do you know how to create the assessement tables for task forces. I'm not sure how to do it and another user tried but thought there was a problem with the categories on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Celtic F.C. task force. If you could help I would appreciate it very much. Thanks. Adam4267 (talk) 21:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes please. Adam4267 (talk) 21:04, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It's working now. Thanks very much. Adam4267 (talk) 21:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

If you add new pages to the task force. Do they show up automatically on the table. Adam4267 (talk) 21:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you I appreciate your help very much

I see you have changed Henrik Larssons importance to mid. IMO he should be high, if someone like Alan Shearer is high surely Larsson should be. Adam4267 (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Lists

Hey, just thought you might be interested to know I've started a discussion at WT:VG about lists in football games after having a bit of trouble with the Pro Evo articles. The intention is to establish a firm consensus for these at last. Fingers crossed... Cheers, Miremare 19:42, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Frank Blunstone

Please can you indicate what 'fix' you are making to the citation format in this diff. Both formats are included in the citation template and there is nothing wrong with the original format it was in. Eldumpo (talk) 04:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for response, but I'm not sure why you say 'we really should be' using first/last in the template; both name formats are clearly listed at the template. Eldumpo (talk) 14:27, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

It's much appreciated mate, thanks. I'll try and get the rest of the Umbro kits done soon and maybe move on to the Adidas ones. VEO^onefive 16:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

For your hard work on ManUtd articles

	Man Utd Wiki Gold Award
	For your great effort on everything in the Man Utd articles scale, reverting vandals, and creating great articles.   – HonorTheKing (talk) 17:06, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct, lets move him to last season article

Yes, you are correct, lets move him to last season article.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 09:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

UEFA European Football Championship

Everybody knows that Slovakia and Czech Republic are the inheritors of Czechoslovakia, it is clearly written in the label of the box. The point is that Czechoslovakia won the title in 1976. You cannot cancel this historic fact, it is a vandalism.--Blocci (talk) 12:02, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Remember that the source is the UEFA official website, where it is written Czechoslovakia and Soviet Union.--87.17.239.30 (talk) 12:09, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Given that Russia have never reached the final under that name, what is you justification for placing RUS rather than URS? If you do not believe that I have summarised the principles adequately, then please go to the talk page on that article to explain why. You are way beyond 3RR on that article today, but I would not denounce you for it as most of your intention has been about preserving the consensus version. However, in this last edit you have changed away from the version that you had been reverting to protect a few days ago. Compare your change here with what you've just done. Kevin McE (talk) 12:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

You evidently are/have been on line this evening, but have chosen to ignore this. Are you intending restoring the place of Russia in the list, as you previously edited to achieve, or will you be defending your edits of today? Kevin McE (talk) 22:32, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Play nice

Your edit summary here is not appropriate. Please read WP:AGF and WP:BITE. You cannot expect an IP to be aware of some agreement reached at a project page, which is not even linked to on the article talk page. Please be more welcoming. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 09:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year

Yes, I saw the same article after posting and therefor removed my comment, I have messaged him once more and we will see.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 19:27, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

It was too crowded, I was looking at similar lists, like PL Monthly and Yearly awards and few more who have FL status and it looks good there. If you feel that it will be nicer then please go ahead and revert my edit.

BTW, do you know a book that we can use to cite those players? or atleast another site apart from MUFCInfo, I told Mark about it, and he said he will fix it but so far no change.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 03:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

It took a while but it was sorted.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 17:41, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

John Mikel Obi

Hi there - you might want to double check stats sites, such as Soccerbase, which confirms the validity of my edit. Regards, GiantSnowman 22:41, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

The Club career statistics at the bottom is correct the total is just wrong, thats what caused the confusion. (★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★) 22:52, 14 August 2011 (UTC))

1993-94 UEFA Champions League

"Why does the "UEFA Champions League" only start half-way down?" Because in 1993-94 for UEFA Champions League meant only the group stage and the semi-finals (in 1992-93 only the group stage). After 1994 all the tournament was denominated UEFA Champions League. The final was escluded in 1992-93 and 1993-94 seasons because was broadcast on television by the EBU.

Example: in 1992-93 and 1993-94 A.C. Milan matches in the group stage (and the 1994 semi-final against AS Monaco) were broadcast on Canale 5 (Silvio Berlusconi's channel) because Canale 5 bought the television rights of UEFA Champions League, but the final was broadcast on RAI TV, because RAI TV is a member of EBU.

Conclusion: for UEFA Champions League, in 1992-93 and 1993-94 seasons, were escluded the first round, the second round and the final. --79.25.25.251 (talk) 10:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

WP:FOOTY Taskforce templates at TfD

Hi PeeJay, I am prepared to close the TfDs for Template:WikiProject Sheffield United and Template:WikiProject Sheffield Wednesday as delete but need both templates to be converted into something that calls Template:WikiProject Football so I can replace (substitute) them. Could you please either provide said code or convert the templates? Thanks. JPG-GR (talk) 17:47, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I believe you misunderstood what I meant: I'm trying to determine which uses of Template:WikiProject Football (i.e. which parameters) need to be implemented to clear these lists: [8] and [9]. JPG-GR (talk) 03:59, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I had SporkBot take care of all the transclusions, and the templates are now deleted. Basically we just needed to append |SheffWed=yes or |SheffUtd=yes or |RealMadrid=yes to the {{WikiProject Football}} template on each talk page, then remove the corresponding WikiProject template. If there was no existing {{WikiProject Football}}, then the bot added it to the article. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 06:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

That is correct, Plastikspork. Thanks for your help. You may be required again later to help with the conversion of Template:WikiProject Association Football in Australia. – PeeJay 10:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Henrik Larsson assessement

He may not be at the level of Pele or Maradona but he has certainly achieved more than the likes of Shearer, Shevchenko, Law, Batistuta, Hurst, Gren, Hoddle, Zola, Banks, Charlton, Kaka and I'm sure many other players who are rated as high. If you can read his honours section and honestly say that he has achieved less than every single one of these people. Adam4267 (talk) 21:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

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How to create own kit for my favourite fotball team ?

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Speedy deletion declined: User:Joshurtree/tmp

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Speedy deletion declined: User:Joshurtree/test

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WP:OWN

Ha! You lecture me about Wikipedia policies whilst deleting factual information from an article because you don't like it. Some players were unhappy with the way the club treated them. That is a fact. Wikipedia is not your personal property and it's not up to you to decide what stays in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.31.153 (talk) 17:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on Munich air disaster. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.

Please be particularly aware, the three-revert rule states that:

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I suggest both of you take the next day or so and discuss your respective reasonings at Talk:Munich air disaster. I will invite members of the Aviation, Football and Germany Wikiprojects to chime in. Agathoclea (talk) 17:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

:I have invited outside comments. So if you are right your version would stand. Nevertheless you choose to continue to editwar. I will have to block you unless you self-revert and take the issue to the talkpage. Agathoclea (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for putting me right. And really glad this can be solved in peace. Agathoclea (talk) 18:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

(e/c) I think moving content to the correct and relevant area of the article is usually considered okay. It's not really edit warring, it's more "moving stuff which was placed inappropriately to a more appropriate place"-warring, and the IP seems to have got the wrong end of that stick. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

To be fair to the IP, the first couple of edits I made were actually straight reverts of the anon's contribution. Like I said on Agathoclea's talk page, I just didn't have the time or patience to examine the edit properly and make a constructive change. – PeeJay 18:59, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

No wuckers. I just thought that it wasn't worthy of a block threat. No harm done. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:34, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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Welsh Football

Sounds interesting. I am not really up to speed on football - the fact that there are too many Man-U fans around was kind of off-putting. But I will be back in Wales in a few weeks so I might be able to help out with local library sources if needed. If anythings else at least I't be useful for tagging and categorizing. (P.S. Evil thought: maybe we can get an article on the Monkton Swifts) Agathoclea (talk) 15:30, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

just watching the best game ever Agathoclea (talk) 15:47, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi PeeJay, I've noticed that you have moved our Wikipedia:WikiProject German football to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Germany task force. A bit of discussion on the move on the Project talk page would have been good, after all the project is quite active and has a resonable number of members and articles. The whole move, right now, smells a bit like WikiProject Football asserting its authority over WikiProject German football, like China over a renegade province. Also, don't forget WikiProject German football is not just related to WikiProject Football but also to WikiProject Germany and, to some extend, WikiProject Bavaria. Consulting us as its members would have been appreciated! Calistemon (talk) 23:54, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

It would have just been really nice to have had a say, too, either by starting a discussion on the project talk page or liking there to one somewhere else. As it is, nobody from this project had any input and we were just thrown in a sack with the likes of WikiProject Persepolis F.C., which we fastly differ from in size and scope, I think. Calistemon (talk) 00:05, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

You are missing the point, PeeJay. WikiProject German football was an individual project until a few hours ago, when it was "swallowed" up by WikiProject Football without consultation. With the same right, or lack of, WikiProject Germany could have made us one of their task forces. But we are really neither, we are our own project, associated with both, or at least we were, until a short time ago when somebody else decided otherwise for us. As to the other projects/taks forces, that's their choice, I wouldn't go and decide for them. Calistemon (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to do anything by myself. I would like to hear what the other members of WikiProject Germany have to say and then go with the majority vote, which is what should have been happening from the start. Calistemon (talk) 00:27, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Can do, but seems a bit ironic considering the same courtesy was not extended to us! Calistemon (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I've raised the question at another relevant place, see here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council. Calistemon (talk) 02:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, you were able to do it for Wikipedia:WikiProject Non-league football. That suggests, you have different levels of respect for Uk-based projects compare to international ones. Calistemon (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Look, PeeJay. A discussion is in place now on WikiProject German football and hopefully people will participate. I've got my opinion, which is that it should stay a project but I will happily accept whatever the majority wants. I know you wanted to achieve something positive but I very much disagree with the way you went about it, just making it a move above the various projects head. Beyond that, I have no quarrel with you and don't want one as really, that's not what I'm here for on Wikipedia. If you feel personally attact, my apologies, it wasn't intended. Lets see what the outcome of the discussion on WikiProject German football is, if there is one and stick with this. Have a good day, Calistemon (talk) 10:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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On a completely differnt note, he is surely a hoax, isn't he? Claims to play for your favorite club. Calistemon (talk) 12:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Replied on the two relevant talk pages. Don't forget to alter Template:WikiProject Football, at this stage it still revers to many of the task forces as Projects on there. Calistemon (talk) 00:40, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Now the banner is working would it be ok if i tag articles for you. Warburton1368 (talk) 23:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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