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}} Rwanda-supported M23 Rebels have passed unhindered through the [[Virunga National Park]] and are approaching the multi-million city of [[Goma]]. It's hardly reached the front pages worldwide (neither has the [[Myanmar civil war]], which is already on ongoing), probably because it's "far away" and the development is gradual, but there is ongoing worldwide press coverage. This deserves front-page coverage on Wikipedia, also to counteract Wikipedias biases that under-represent topics covering the part of Africa between the Sahara and South Africa. [[User:Gerrit|Gerrit]] <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Gerrit|C]][[User:Gerrit|U]][[User_talk:Gerrit|T]][[Special:Emailuser/Gerrit|E]][[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Gerrit|D]][http://www.topjaklont.org/ H]</sup> 13:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT remove the ~ --> |
}} Rwanda-supported M23 Rebels have passed unhindered through the [[Virunga National Park]] and are approaching the multi-million city of [[Goma]]. It's hardly reached the front pages worldwide (neither has the [[Myanmar civil war]], which is already on ongoing), probably because it's "far away" and the development is gradual, but there is ongoing worldwide press coverage. This deserves front-page coverage on Wikipedia, also to counteract Wikipedias biases that under-represent topics covering the part of Africa between the Sahara and South Africa. Maybe we should link to [[M23 offensive (2022–present)]] instead as this is more update than [[Kivu conflict]]. [[User:Gerrit|Gerrit]] <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Gerrit|C]][[User:Gerrit|U]][[User_talk:Gerrit|T]][[Special:Emailuser/Gerrit|E]][[Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Gerrit|D]][http://www.topjaklont.org/ H]</sup> 13:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)<!-- Do NOT remove the ~ --> |
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Ongoing: Kivu Conflict
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde AP DW taz
Credits:
- Nominated by Gerrit (talk · give credit)
Rwanda-supported M23 Rebels have passed unhindered through the Virunga National Park and are approaching the multi-million city of Goma. It's hardly reached the front pages worldwide (neither has the Myanmar civil war, which is already on ongoing), probably because it's "far away" and the development is gradual, but there is ongoing worldwide press coverage. This deserves front-page coverage on Wikipedia, also to counteract Wikipedias biases that under-represent topics covering the part of Africa between the Sahara and South Africa. Maybe we should link to M23 offensive (2022–present) instead as this is more update than Kivu conflict. Gerrit CUTEDH 13:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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(Closed) Starship third flight test, first successful
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: SpaceX's Starship rocket, the most powerful rocket ever, has demonstrated a successful launch in its third flight test. (Post)
Alternative blurb: SpaceX's Starship rocket, the most powerful rocket ever, has demonstrated a successful launch in its integrated flight test 3.
News source(s): CNBC, NYT, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by CactiStaccingCrane (talk · give credit)
- Nominated early to encourage attention to the article and blurb posting once ready. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- It seems that starship has not reentered successfully. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This was not a 'successful' flight of an orbital rocket and the nomination was premature. According to your CNN link above, this got further than the previous two tests, but a) did not reach orbit, b) failed to reignite the engines as planned, and c) burned up when it fell back into the atmosphere. That's a less bad failure than before, which is certainly useful progress, but the rocket still hasn't done what it was designed to do - put a payload into orbit. Also, the nominated article is a mess: multiple orange-level tags, not updated etc. Modest Genius talk 14:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The rocket failing a little later than the previous one is not ITN-worthy. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per everything above. Yes, it made it to space this time, but both vehicles were still destroyed. We've already nominated Starship's first launch, which is all we should do until it's fully operational, and not just tests. Second test wasn't
nominatedposted either. qw3rty 14:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)- The second test was in fact nominated for ITN but it did not gain consensus. User3749 (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's what I meant to say, having a brain is hard qw3rty 16:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- The second test was in fact nominated for ITN but it did not gain consensus. User3749 (talk) 16:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality and notability per above. Suggest SNOW close. Moncoposig (talk) 15:09, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. I don't see a need to post this considering this is the third test. Gödel2200 (talk) 15:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - To write this off as a failure is misleading; vast majority of reliable sources do not classify this as such, including the ones listed. This is front page news on almost every major source, article needs a little work but is almost good to go, this entry is encyclopedic and notable as many milestones in spaceflight were reached. In any case, a SNOW Close on this after 1 hour is ridiculous. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't want to argue about failure shenanigans here, but I do think it deserves a spot on ITN because this thing is going to be on the media for many days. Also, it seems that people here do not have a clear criteria on "what would cut it for ITN", in other words, they move their goalpost every time. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- "It's in the media for a few days" isn't enough of a criterion for ITN, on top of being WP:CRYSTAL to some extent. We don't post every big news story, we're still here to feature events that have some encyclopedic significance. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 17:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- We can't post every little incremental improvement in the attempt to reach orbit and/or successful return to earth safely. — Masem (t) 17:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't want to argue about failure shenanigans here, but I do think it deserves a spot on ITN because this thing is going to be on the media for many days. Also, it seems that people here do not have a clear criteria on "what would cut it for ITN", in other words, they move their goalpost every time. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. PrinceofPunjabTALK 17:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose -- despite attempts to recast an obvious failure as somehow "misleading", the test was indeed an obvious failure -- per Reuters, a core objective was inexplicably skipped, and the rocket subsequently destroyed itself during re-entry.
What SpaceX failed to demonstrate on top of Starship's re-entry failure and the skipped engine re-ignition test was an attempt to fly the Super Heavy rocket back to Earth, part of SpaceX's routine strategy of recovering its launch boosters for re-use.
. We do not need to cover every failed test. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 17:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC) - Oppose Maybe when it's successful, which it wasn't today. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose It wasn't a complete mission, nor did it actually enter orbit. (it achieved "orbital velocity" but it was a suborbital trajectory) We don't know exactly what happened to cause a loss of telemetry before its planned end, merely that it disintegrated before its planned impact in the Indian Ocean. Overall, this was merely an incremental improvement over IFT2, which we did not post either; hindsight consensus seems that we shouldn't have even posted IFT1. Posting these stories strays from focusing on major news developments and into simply being a launch ticker, which isn't the purpose of ITN. Likely the first (prospective, anyway) such noteworthy mission would be the first test landing of the Starship HLS (uncrewed) on the Moon, as this would be the first such mission that'd fit within the ITN/R guidelines. Nottheking (talk) 20:22, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Ongoing: Haitian Crisis
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by DarkSide830 (talk · give credit)
Continuing to receive coverage and frequent article updates since the recent related blurb rolled off. And, of course, the crisis in question is still ongoing. The Henry blurb is still outstanding, but Henry has yet to tender his resignation as president either way and I do not believe that should stop us from posting the broader ongoing nom. The target I selected may not be the best option (Gang war in Haiti could also be in play), but that's negotiable. DarkSide830 (talk) 23:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support due to near continous notability over the past month. Lukt64 (talk) 02:22, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support due to notability. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:00, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There's also ongoing gang war in Haiti. Unless it's considered an offshoot of the crisis, could be the target article. Brandmeistertalk 08:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability Pksois23 (talk) 09:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - while the crisis has existed in some form since 2018, the current surge of activity is clearly significant. This doesn't have to be up for a long time (and indeed I hope for the sake of the people of Haiti that it isn't) but it is clear relevant now. GenevieveDEon (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The Haitian crisis (2018–present) article is not ideal for ongoing right now. It seems like the latest date discussed on the article was 12 March, and before that, it was 5 March. A better candidate would be the Gang war in Haiti article. It has mentioned dates up until 13 March. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Ira Millstein
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
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Thriley (talk) 13:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Neophyte Patriarch of Bulgaria
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Sofia Globe
Credits:
- Nominated by Ad Orientem (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
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Patriarch of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church. Unfortunately, the article is in rough shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on Quality - Citation tags Prodrummer619 (talk) 07:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Paul Alexander (polio survivor)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:
- Nominated by Iamstillqw3rty (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Guinness World Record holder for longest time spent inside an iron lung. Died 2 days ago, death announced today I believe. Date of birth is uncited, and there are probably a few more errors that I seriously cba to figure out. qw3rty 10:48, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment once the citatisn are fixed, id say that this arguably is notable for a blurb. Id rather have it in RD though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukt64 (talk • contribs)
- Support once citations are fixed for RD Lukt64 (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Article is fully cited and appears ready. Flibirigit (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support but absolutely oppose blurb since the manner of the death is not notable This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted A remarkable man. Memory eternal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment—It's not the fact of his death that makes it notable, but what it represents. He was the last person in the world to still be using an iron lung. With his passing, iron lungs will now go the way of lobotomies, trepanning, and bloodletting. I don't know if a support a blurb, but I think it's reasonable to give it consideration. Kurtis (talk) 08:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- From what I see, it is not at all certain that the currently still alive Martha Lillard is the last person in an iron lung. Either way, it is not Alexander. I sure do hope someday we can blurb the eradication of polio, but until then I don't think such a blurb is appropriate. He was not quite a public figure like the people we usually blurb. I do appreciate the expansion of the article, though. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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RD: Bill Plummer
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by VyveGuy1 (talk · give credit)
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Still needs a few more sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Kim Rudd
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): .northumberlandnews.com Quintenews
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Connormah (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
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Former Canadian MP.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- This stubby wikibio currently has only 286 words of prose. Anything else to write about? Career in business in Cobourg? --PFHLai (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: David Mixner
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Mooonswimmer 17:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not ready. Multiple paragraphs without citations, and a wholly inadequate lead section. Flibirigit (talk) 02:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, valid orange tags. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 08:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Eric Carmen
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News on MSN
Credits:
- Nominated by The Vital One (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by The Vital One (talk • contribs) 21:43, 2024 March 12 (UTC)
- Support. He put out big hits on the charts. Sad to hear he is dead. Urbanracer34 (talk) 22:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article looks in good shape with chart stats, copy cited. CoatCheck (talk) 02:48, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Tagged unsourced paragraphs (even before the above "supports").—Bagumba (talk) 08:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Support one of the most iconic cartoon antiheroes of the last quarter century*Puts on reading glasses* and Oppose There are wholly unsourced paragraphs. I just fixed a part of the personal life where information about presumably living and presumably private people was "sourced" to a dead tweet that didn't mention them. Unknown Temptation (talk) 19:57, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Boss
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BET
Credits:
- Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Heatrave (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The article is currently disorganised. I think the "Life and Career" section should be split into sections to make it easier to read. Additionally, there is a CN tag. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as above, "Life and career" should be split out to separate career and personal life. Discography is mostly unsourced, and some sources being used there are not permitted as per WP:RSP (including depreciated rateyourmusic and Tunefind which is not a RS). Joseph2302 (talk) 14:23, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Portuguese election
Blurb: In a snap election in Portugal, the Democratic Alliance (leader Luís Montenegro pictured) wins a narrow plurality of seats in parliament (Post)
Alternative blurb: In a snap election in Portugal, the Democratic Alliance (leader Luís Montenegro pictured) is projected to win a narrow plurality of seats in parliament
News source(s): Guardian BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Modest Genius (talk · give credit)
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
ITNR election. The article is in good shape, with substantial referenced prose in the 'results' and 'aftermath' sections. The complication is that official results have been announced for 226 of the 230 seats - the four reserved for overseas voters won't be counted until 20 March. Normally that wouldn't matter, but with the AD and PS currently separated by only two seats it could change the winner (though almost certainly won't, given the way those seats are allocated proportionately). I still think it's better to post now than wait more than a week, by which point it will be old news. Reliable sources are reporting the AD as having 'won the election', despite those four outstanding seats. Modest Genius talk 15:40, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment it is indeed true that the reliable sources have already headlined an AD victory. Additionally, the PS leader has conceded and refers to his party as the new opposition. I agree that despite the mathematical possibility, it would be pedantic if Wikipedia waits longer than the actual candidates to declare a winner. Completely different system I'm aware, but I'm sure Wikipedia doesn't wait for the electoral college to finalise the American election after the losing candidate concedes. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- With all due respect to the RS angle of things, I simply don't think we can say AD won because, well, they haven't yet. I get the desire to get this posted now, but an official announcement of results would generally qualify as the news item still being in the news. If we want to post now, I think we would have to say AD is "expected" or "projected" to win a plurality. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm happy to qualify the blurb with 'expected' or 'projected', given the technical (but again, highly unlikely) possibility that PS won >67% of the overseas vote. Modest Genius talk 11:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work The blurb presents this as a win but the result seems fragmented with little prospect of a majority government and a further election likely next year. So, it's more a case of the previous government losing its majority than someone winning. The big news seems to be that the new Chega party was successful so that there's now a three-way split preventing a majority. The blurb needs work to explain this better. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- "A narrow plurality" to me sounds exactly like it is, but if "loses its clear majority" is accurate then that might be a reasonable alternative too. That would give more context on history here. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Saying something like 'PS loses its majority, PSD set up a new alliance called AD that is now the largest in parliament, and Chega came third with more seats than expected' would be a very long blurb. Do you have a suggestion of how to describe all those outcomes concisely? Modest Genius talk 11:27, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- "A narrow plurality" to me sounds exactly like it is, but if "loses its clear majority" is accurate then that might be a reasonable alternative too. That would give more context on history here. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Any further comments or replies? It has been almost 48 hours since the nomination and hardly anyone has commented. Marking as (needs attention). Modest Genius talk 12:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Making current headlines across newspapers in Europe. Definitely noteworthy. TwistedAxe [contact] 12:46, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on quality There is one cn, but the article looks fine otherwise.
Oppose on quality There is an unsourced Politics of Portugal section, but besides for that, the article doesn't seem to have any major problems (though there is one cn).Gödel2200 (talk) 13:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)- I've cut most of that section, merged the remaining sentence into the previous section, and added a reference. Modest Genius talk 14:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Article seems good. Notable. Prodrummer619 (talk) 15:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posting. --Tone 16:02, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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(Reviewers needed) RD: John Barnett (whistleblower)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times, BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by DecafPotato (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Ye9CYNMD (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Former Boeing employee, whistleblower. Dead in an alleged suicide on March 9, death announced March 11. DecafPotato (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Charlie Bird
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTÉ News
Credits:
- Nominated by Joseywales1961 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)
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Irish journalist and news correspondent, Short but sufficient article Josey Wales Parley 14:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Malachy McCourt
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Thriley (talk) 10:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now The article currently has four CNs. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- The section on his book A Monk Swimming has zero footnotes. The rest of the prose now has 5 {cn} tags. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Karl Wallinger
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stereogum, Billboard, The Guardian
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Doc Strange (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit), Strattonsmith (talk · give credit), KConWiki (talk · give credit) and Dann Chinn (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Leader of the rock band World Party. Article needs some work - It has an orange tag for a lack of sources. Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 03:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question If the only free image can't adequately illustrate the subject, can we use a fair-use one instead? Bremps... 07:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support: I have cleaned up all the instances of citation needed as far as I can tell. Would someone be able to take a look at the article and see if they agree, and if so remove the CN template at the top? I think this article is close to being ready to post to RD, and may be ready now. As noted above, having a different image would be nice, but I want to leave that to someone who is more familiar with image issues than I am. THanks to all. KConWiki (talk) 06:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the cleanup work! The article looks good to me, but as the nominator, I don't think I can add a support vote. Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 17:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Cleanup is well done, and I have removed the article template. Article is ready for RD posting. Jusdafax (talk) 01:37, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Lewis Jones
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph, BBC Sport
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by The C of E (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Nthep (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Welsh rugby union and rugby league player The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 10:14, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article seems to be of sufficiently good quality and sourcing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Decent article, sourcing fairly good Josey Wales Parley 22:27, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Several paragraphs in the middle of the Rugby league career section could use more sourcing. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 00:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Ariel Henry resignation
Blurb: Prime Minister and Acting President of Haiti Ariel Henry resigns from office. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Haitian Prime Minister Ariel Henry announces his resignation during the gang war.
News source(s): [2]
Credits:
- Nominated by Bremps (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jwcadet11 (talk · give credit), Ogiwarahoshi (talk · give credit), 2600:8801:432:2100:682d:762f:8a5f:a66b (talk · give credit) and TimeToFixThis (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Folks might want to merge with the gang war blurb. Bremps... 04:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Supportblurb, article is comprehensive and well-cited (only a small case of overcite in lead to fix), oppose merge as the gang war blurb is about to roll off. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 05:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)- Wait per Johndavies Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 06:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose he hasn't actually resigned. Stephen 05:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wait He hasn't resigned yet, they said it will take effect when the presidential council consisting of 7 voting members and 2 non-voting members is formed. I watched the press conference and they didn't say how long this process is going to take. Hours, days, weeks? Johndavies837 (talk) 06:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wait until it actually happens, then support. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I also added an alt blurb that was proposed by Brandmeister on an accidental duplicate nomination of this. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:50, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wait The articles look good quality wise, but the resignation hasn't actually happened yet. I also don't think this is ITNR yet, and will only be if someone replaces Henry (I think it would be ideal to wait for that to happen). Gödel2200 (talk) 13:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - this is just a minor and expected development from what we've already got blurbed. Adjust the blurb by a couple of words if necessary. Nfitz (talk) 00:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- The gang war blurb is rolling off, while this is ITN/R, so presumed to be independently important. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's not ITNR. I made a mistake when I pasted the template in. Bremps... 04:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- This is not at all a minor development if you consider the broader context of the Haitian crisis since the Moïse assassination. The rise and now fall of Ariel Henry as a self-imposed pseudo-dictator has been a very uncomfortable issue within OAS/Caricom politics (i.e. the debate of whether legitimization of his seizure of power is a stabilizing or destabilizing force, which would affects things like aid shipments and such). Curbon7 (talk) 09:47, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- The gang war blurb is rolling off, while this is ITN/R, so presumed to be independently important. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:20, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose for now The deal seems to be falling apart, according to latest news reports. I suggest closing this nomination until he actually resigns. Johndavies837 (talk) 18:10, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ongoing - The amount of blurb-worthy stories coming out of Haiti and the massive media attention surrounding the gang war makes it worthy of an ongoing slot imo, I'd recommend replacing Myanmar with it. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:37, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
March 10
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(Posted) RD: Yutaka Yoshie
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.njpw1972.com/171969 https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1536118/ajpw-veteran-yutaka-yoshie-dies-following-match/
Credits:
- Updated by MordecaiXLII (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Japanese professional wrestler. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 05:23, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks to be in good shape, and the death was certainly unexpected and tragic. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted): Oscars
Blurb: At the Academy Awards, Oppenheimer (director Christopher Nolan pictured) wins seven awards, including Best Picture. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
- Updated by PrinceofPunjab (talk · give credit)
Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Just completed, will have sources in a bit. Article probably also needs ceremony updates. Masem (t) 02:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- To add, the film's article is in good shape to also be featured, but the Oscars one needs to be first and foremost. Also for pictures, that gives us Nolan, Murphy, Downey Jr., and Göransson for possible pictures to be used here (all individual winners). --Masem (t) 02:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question maybe add the Oppenheimer poster as an image for the section? Kasperquickly (talk) 02:32, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Main page images must be free of copyright issues (eg, not non-free images). Movie poster falls under non-free. Hence why we typically use one of the winners to be featured. ITNR normally includes best film and best director, but since they are the same here, any reasonable image of the film's cast + crew could work Masem (t) 02:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Added altblurb with picture; I support any blurb appearing on the main page though. If somebody else thinks people such as Cillian Murphy ought to be featured in the picture instead, please let me know. — 3PPYB6 (T / C / L) — 02:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support
altblurbif ITNR normally includes best film and best director, we should feature the director rather than the actor in the picture. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:46, 11 March 2024 (UTC)- The original blurb included no image while the altblurb did when I supported, I'm now clarifying my support now that the original blurb has been removed. Both articles are adequately sourced. feminist🩸 (talk) 11:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note We already promoted Oppenheimer and Nolan for some time starting February 19 (Murphy was also likewise considered). That may be a fair reason to IAR on the R bit, if most are so inclined. I'm leaning that way. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:51, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see how posting this again would be promotional tbh. We are simply reflecting how society has decided to recognize films. And Oppenheimer is no longer played in cinemas in most parts of the world, so any promotional effect is limited. feminist🩸 (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support We can alternate between Nolan, Murphy, Downey Jr., and Göransson for the picture, per nom. Don't see the need to do anything different that Oppenheimer won both BAFTA and the Oscars. Davey2116 (talk) 03:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call it a need, more a mere feeling of mild weirdness to highlight the same articles three weeks (or nine days) apart. It's not like they've changed much, besides the bit about the seven Oscars. Of course, there might be something worth learning in the Oscar article about things that aren't Oppenheimer et al, so that's a breath of fresh air. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support As per others Centuries123 (talk) 05:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on quality, neutral on Feminist's proposal to IAR and not post. DecafPotato (talk) 07:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- You mean InedibleHulk? feminist🩸 (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh sure, when it fails miserably, it's my idea... InedibleHulk (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- You mean InedibleHulk? feminist🩸 (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Whomever replaced the original blurb with the altblurb, please don't do that, particularly after !votes have been made, because you then risk seeing !votes that were made to support a vanished altblurb or the original blurb and not an altblurb. I know my initial blurb didn't include any explicit picture, but that's a small change to the original blurb to include the picture mention. --Masem (t) 12:04, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The awards article is rather boring but does meet our minimum requirements so is OK to post. Don't bold the link to the the film article - the news is the awards. Modest Genius talk 12:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support on quality Both articles seem to be of sufficient quality. I don't really see how this would be WP:NOTPROMOTION. The fact that someone or some movie has won multiple awards in a year that we usually post doesn't seem to be a problem to me. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support It's ITNR and appears to meet the customary quality standards for posting. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Smurrayinchester 15:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
March 9
March 9, 2024
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(Reviewers needed) RD: Guy Touvron
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): France Musique
Credits:
- Updated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Legendary trumpet player, known in the world by thousands of concerts and more than 100 recordings, with a sad end to his career. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Dave Ritchie (gridiron football)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC, Winnipeg Blue Bombers
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Canadian Football League Coach of the Year in 2001. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:45, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There's an orange tag and a few sentences are missing citations. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:39, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and added "citation needed" tags. There quite a few but likely only need a one or two sources to full them all. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Pakistan New President
Blurb: Asif Ali Zardari is elected President of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Following the general election, Shehbaz Sharif is appointed Prime Minister of Pakistan, while Asif Ali Zardari is elected President of Pakistan in the presidential election.
News source(s): APP, France 24, VOA, DW
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 12:36, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment In anticipation of confused replies, yes, this is different to the general election and prime minister also recently elected. (However, I would not be opposed to combining blurbs.) Kingsif (talk) 13:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Combine blurbs Neat solution that avoids the question of whether it's worth a separate blurb. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The blurb for the new prime minister is stale now, and I don't think this is notable enough on its own.
Combine blurbs per above. While I don't think this is notable enough to post on its own, it wouldn't hurt to also mention the presidential election while the blurb for the general election is still up.Gödel2200 (talk) 13:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Shouldn't it be "becomes"? Sincerely, Novo TapeMy Talk Page 18:02, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Altblurb added Bremps... 04:09, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Combine blurbs as per Chaotic Enby and Gödel2200 --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support a combined blurb, but strong oppose to any blurb mentioning the verb "to become" in any form because it was an "election" and he was elected through an electoral vote.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:12, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The 2024 Pakistani presidential election article needs more references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 13:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Neither 2024 Pakistani general election nor 2024 Pakistani presidential election are suitably referenced to qualify for main page exposure (and the former is already blurbed!). The general election article is the next one to roll off. Hence, combining doesn't seem immediately feasible. More work is needed. Schwede66 20:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, a ceremonial position, does not administer the executive. Stephen 04:16, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This, but also everyone knows the election was fake. Would people here post the upcoming election in Russia? Or the North Korean ones? Come on..........Kasperquickly (talk) 05:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment If it's ceremonial then who administers the executive?
- Traumnovelle (talk) 06:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This, but also everyone knows the election was fake. Would people here post the upcoming election in Russia? Or the North Korean ones? Come on..........Kasperquickly (talk) 05:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - we already posted the Prime Minister's election, why would we post the President's when he has no actual power? Just let it roll off ITN. --RockstoneSend me a message! 09:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Question: shouldn't these both be referred to as re-appointments, since they previously held the positions? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:53, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment -- this has rolled off ITN. It's stale now, so I guess this is moot now. --RockstoneSend me a message! 04:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Close as stale per Rockstone35's rationale. Bremps... 06:01, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
March 8
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(Posted) RD: David E. Harris
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: first black American commercial airline pilot Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support This article easily has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 11:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Guy Boutilier
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Regional Municipality of Wood Buffalo
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Canadian politician, member of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta from 1997 to 2012. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 10:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support A few unsourced statements that could maybe be resolved, but it doesn't seem like enough to uphold posting. Kafoxe (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Too much unsourced info, a few paragraphs without sources and some stray sentences too. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
RD: Ramya Wanigasekara
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Divaina Ada Derana
Credits:
- Nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Sri Lankan actor, singer, and radio broadcaster. Titanciwikitalk/contrib 21:10, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Wait That awards section has a citation, but clicking it does nothing. Well, not nothing. But goes nowhere. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- The reference goes to a webpage with a lot of broken elements. Bremps... 16:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Sure, now it does. Another hour, maybe even better. Never give up!InedibleHulk (talk) 16:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)- Upon further reflection, nevermind. It was already archived when I got there, but I clicked the wrong part. Abandon all hope! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- The reference goes to a webpage with a lot of broken elements. Bremps... 16:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- How come many of her awards were not mentioned in the prose? Not important? --PFHLai (talk) 11:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Jonathan Hunt
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stuff.co.nz Radio NZ
Credits:
- Nominated by Kiwichris (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Wait A few unsourced bits and maybe some missing information, but almost there. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The article seems to be well-sourced now. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:22, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- 'Procedural support RIP to the Minister of Wine and Cheese This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:37, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – I've added a ton of references and cut out some material for which I could not find any sources. What's there should now satisfy the requirements. I've added myself to the credits list. Schwede66 22:46, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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