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* ''([[Talk:Ellis (sigil)#Requested move 26 October 2016 |Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Ellis (sigil)]] → {{no redirect|Linking Sigil (LS)}}''' – In a Youtube video, the creator of the Linking Sigil which many within the community has come to coin as "Ellis" is a separate entity. The video is in question is located here: <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A99sTPY5bK0</ref>. The person in the video is indeed the creator of the Linking Sigil, and this can be verified on DKMU's website under "documents" and in the document "Ellis: Assault on Reality:" <ref>http://dkmu.org/texts/category/2-general</ref> Which is an archive of blog posts from Occultforum.org, where the sigil was first conceptualized. [[User:Earthen Mystique|Earthen Mystique]] ([[User talk:Earthen Mystique|talk]]) 00:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)<small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<font color="#000000">©</font>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<font color="#4B0082">Tb</font><font color="#6082B6">hotch</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<font color="#555555"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 08:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)</small>
* ''([[Talk:Ellis (sigil)#Requested move 26 October 2016 |Discuss]])'' – '''[[:Ellis (sigil)]] → {{no redirect|Linking Sigil (LS)}}''' – In a Youtube video, the creator of the Linking Sigil which many within the community has come to coin as "Ellis" is a separate entity. The video is in question is located here: <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A99sTPY5bK0</ref>. The person in the video is indeed the creator of the Linking Sigil, and this can be verified on DKMU's website under "documents" and in the document "Ellis: Assault on Reality:" <ref>http://dkmu.org/texts/category/2-general</ref> Which is an archive of blog posts from Occultforum.org, where the sigil was first conceptualized. [[User:Earthen Mystique|Earthen Mystique]] ([[User talk:Earthen Mystique|talk]]) 00:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)<small>--'''''Relisting.''''' [[WP:CC-BY-SA|<font color="#000000">©</font>]] [[User:Tbhotch|<font color="#4B0082">Tb</font><font color="#6082B6">hotch</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tbhotch|<font color="#555555"><big>™</big></font>]]</sup> ([[User:Tbhotch/EN|en-2.5]]). 08:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)</small>


* ''([[Talk:Chester to Manchester Line#Requested move 2 November 2016 |Discuss]])'' – '''[[Chester to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Chester–Manchester line}}'''
* ''([[Talk:Chester to Manchester Line#Requested move 2 November 2016 |Discuss]])'' – '''[[Chester to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Chester–Manchester line}}''' – Derby line}} * [[:Crewe to Liverpool Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Liverpool line}} * [[:Crewe to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Manchester line}} * [[:Ellesmere Port to Warrington Line]] → {{no redirect|Ellesmere Port–Warrington line}} * [[:Glazebrook East Junction to Skelton Junction Line]] → {{no redirect|Glazebrook East Junction–Skelton Junction line}} * [[:Leeds to Morecambe Line]] → {{no redirect|Leeds–Morecambe line}} * [[:Liverpool to Manchester lines]] → {{no redirect|Liverpool–Manchester lines}} * [[:Liverpool to Wigan Line]] → {{no redirect|Liverpool–Wigan line}} * [[:Manchester to Preston Line]] → {{no redirect|Manchester–Preston line}} * [[:Manchester to Southport Line]] → {{no redirect|Manchester–Southport line}} * [[:Shrewsbury to Chester Line]] → {{no redirect|Shrewsbury–Chester line}} * [[:Stafford to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Stafford–Manchester line}} * [[:Stockport to Stalybridge Line]] → {{no redirect|Stockport–Stalybridge line}} – Per discussion at [[Talk:Settle-Carlisle_Line#Requested_move_12_October_2016]], there seems to be broad agreement that connecting symmetric line endpoints by an [[en dash]] is preferable to using "to" which is a one-directional concept. And none of these are proper names, so "line" should not be capitalized (most have been fixed already, but not all). These are from [[:Category:Railway lines in North West England]]; presumably the result will be propagated to other regions in England if accepted here. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 04:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
** [[:Crewe to Liverpool Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Liverpool line}}
** [[:Crewe to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Manchester line}}
** [[:Ellesmere Port to Warrington Line]] → {{no redirect|Ellesmere Port–Warrington line}}
** [[:Glazebrook East Junction to Skelton Junction Line]] → {{no redirect|Glazebrook East Junction–Skelton Junction line}}
** [[:Leeds to Morecambe Line]] → {{no redirect|Leeds–Morecambe line}}
** [[:Liverpool to Manchester lines]] → {{no redirect|Liverpool–Manchester lines}}
** [[:Liverpool to Wigan Line]] → {{no redirect|Liverpool–Wigan line}}
** [[:Manchester to Preston Line]] → {{no redirect|Manchester–Preston line}}
** [[:Manchester to Southport Line]] → {{no redirect|Manchester–Southport line}}
** [[:Shrewsbury to Chester Line]] → {{no redirect|Shrewsbury–Chester line}}
** [[:Stafford to Manchester Line]] → {{no redirect|Stafford–Manchester line}}
** [[:Stockport to Stalybridge Line]] → {{no redirect|Stockport–Stalybridge line}} – Per discussion at [[Talk:Settle-Carlisle_Line#Requested_move_12_October_2016]], there seems to be broad agreement that connecting symmetric line endpoints by an [[en dash]] is preferable to using "to" which is a one-directional concept. And none of these are proper names, so "line" should not be capitalized (most have been fixed already, but not all). These are from [[:Category:Railway lines in North West England]]; presumably the result will be propagated to other regions in England if accepted here. [[User:Dicklyon|Dicklyon]] ([[User talk:Dicklyon|talk]]) 04:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
** [[Crewe to Derby Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Derby line}}
** [[Crewe to Derby Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Derby line}}
** [[Crewe to Liverpool Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Liverpool line}}
** [[Crewe to Liverpool Line]] → {{no redirect|Crewe–Liverpool line}}

Revision as of 15:32, 4 November 2016

This page lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a page-link-first format.

November 4, 2016

  • (Discuss)Primera División of ChileChilean Primera División – I checked all of the football leagues in Spanish speaking countries that call their league the "Primera División" and all of the English pages have the same formatting which is "Demonym Primera División". The origianl name of the page was the Chilean Primera División but somebody changed it for some reason and it's only fitting that it follow the same formattig as the rest of the leagues. - AquilaXIII (talk) 00:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 3, 2016

  • (Discuss)UN PlazaUnited Nations Plaza (Bucharest) – Make United Nations Plaza a three-way disambiguation page for the three items (at least) covered in the current page's hatnote, with UN Plaza a redirect to that disambiguation page. The present name is malformed per WP:ACRONYMTITLE, being an informal abbreviation of a translation, and not the proper name (or the most common name) of the location in Romania (nor of any other). The present micro-stub on that location is also not the primary topic for the names "UN Plaza" or "United Nations Plaza" in English; the location in San Francisco clearly is, as easily demonstrated by searching for either of those quoted strings at Google News. United Nations Plaza, San Francisco (among other redirs) is presently covered as a subtopic at Civic Center, San Francisco, but could easily be a separate article (again, just the Google News hits alone are sufficient to demonstrate notability and to provide article creation fodder). The stub on the Bucharest location is also mis-focused. It is dwelling on a particular building (properly the United Nations Plaza Building, in English, when the plaza itself (Piața Națiunile Unite in Romanian) is more notable, and the building on it is a subtopic of that. I've already created every sane redirect for both location in English, and in Romanian for the Romanian one.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  06:21, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2, 2016

  • (Discuss)Hurrah, the School Is BurningHurra, die Schule brennt! – I cannot find any evidence that the film has been released in any English-speaking country or have an official title in English universally accepted by English-speakers. German films for teenage or adult audiences (the age group that tends to prefer subtitles to dubbing) usually retain their original German title or adopt a German sounding title likely to appeal to and be understood by the audience e.g. Das Boot and The Edukators respectively. Although the Internet Movie Database refers to the film by an English title when read in English, the poster shown in that article uses the German title and I have not been able to find any videotape, DVD or download releases on any official retailers' sites from the English-speaking World. The IMDb's site can be edited similarly to Wikipedia, though I think the edits there are reviewed by administrators, so it is not necessarily a reliable source. The film is referred to by its German title by the British Film Institute but when I search for it on the website of the BBFC (the body responsible for the age rating of films in the United Kingdom) the search does not turn up any results. The only other non-German Wikipedia article for the film is in Polish but that uses the German title. Tk420 (talk) 19:08, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)List of sovereign statesList of countries – When people want to find a list of countries, they're expecting to find an article named just that, not some esoteric jargon that most people don't use. The difference between "country" and "sovereign state" is mostly just semantics and "List of countries" already redirects here. Both readers and editors can reasonably assume that "countries" refers to what this list currently calls "sovereign states", as opposed to constituent countries or other uses of the term, since the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of a list called "List of countries" is most likely the former anyways. Other relevant guideline key words: WP:ASTONISH, WP:RECOGNIZABLE, WP:COMMONNAME Prisencolin (talk) 18:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Paddy Murphy (Liverpudlian)Paddy Murphy (seaman) – We do not disambiguate by where people come from or live; we disambiguate by what they do. In any case, Murphy was not a Liverpudlian. He just lived in Liverpool. I have already tried to move it, but it was moved back with the comment "no, this was better: his primary significance is that he lived in England (specifically Liverpool)". Nobody is significant just for living in England or in Liverpool. He is actually significant for being a relative of the Japanese Emperor who lived in England and served in the British Merchant Navy. Where he lived in England is utterly irrelevant to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:21, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Chulabhorn WalailakChulabhorn – The princess's names are just "Chulabhorn" and "Ubol Ratana". They are officially styled in English as "HRH Princess Chulabhorn" and "Princess Ubol Ratana".[2] The rest are parts of their ceremonial names ("Chulabhorn Walailak Akra Rajakumari" and "Ubolratana Rajakanya Sirivadhana Barnavadi"), which are not officially used in English. (Note: Walailak should actually be spelled "Valayalaksana", as Sanskrit-based transliteration is preferred for royal names, but even the government isn't consistent here.) Paul_012 (talk) 11:30, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Latter Day Church of ChristKingston Clan – While "Latter Day Church of Christ" is the official name of the church organized by this group, the group is far more well known as the "Kingston Clan". This is therefore the common name that should be used. The article contains information on the financial holdings of the group as well as information about the church organization. The financial holdings are not held by the church, but by the Davis County Co-operative Society, which is another organization that the group has established. Thus, "Kingston Clan" would also be a more inclusive, broader name, since it would be an overarching name for the group which has a number of organizations within it, including the Latter Day Church of Christ and the Davis County Co-op. Good Ol’factory (talk) 09:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Ellis (sigil)Linking Sigil (LS) – In a Youtube video, the creator of the Linking Sigil which many within the community has come to coin as "Ellis" is a separate entity. The video is in question is located here: [1]. The person in the video is indeed the creator of the Linking Sigil, and this can be verified on DKMU's website under "documents" and in the document "Ellis: Assault on Reality:" [2] Which is an archive of blog posts from Occultforum.org, where the sigil was first conceptualized. Earthen Mystique (talk) 00:24, 26 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 08:39, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)±1-sequenceSign sequence – I think "sign sequence" is a common-enough name for this concept, and it would be preferable to have a title that uses English text rather than mathematical notation (for instance, because such titles are easier to search for). Because of the difficulty in searching the current title, I can't even provide adequate statistics for how common the current name is in comparison to the proposed one. If we agree to make this move, we can still continue to mention the current name as an alternative in the article text. David Eppstein (talk) 00:35, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 1, 2016

  • (Discuss)KBJO-LDKNPG-LD – Due to KBJO-LD, virtual channel 21, changing its callsign to KNPG-LD and acquiring the NBC affiliation on November 1, 2016, KBJO-LD should be renamed KNPG-LD. The current Wikipedia page KNPG-LD refers to the station now known as KBJO-LD, the callsign which was given to the Telemundo affiliate, broadcasting on virtual channel 30, on November 1, 2016. KansasCity (talk) 22:36, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Ebrié → ? – WP:NCET#Self-identification indicates we should prefer autonyms over derogatory terms. Lede of *this* article says the name is derogatory. fr [Tchaman] also indicates they call themselves Tchaman. An authoritative-looking sources here here and here use Tchaman. It looks like the english page is merely translated from the French, but that does not mean the French page is neutral. I am not aware of any opposition to this move, but given that I am not totally familiar with the matter I am logging this as a requested move rather than simply doing it myself. Just trying to chip away at systemic bias -- looks like a vestige of colonialism (?) Elinruby (talk) 03:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 10:54, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Step Up RevolutionStep Up: RevolutionStep Up: Revolution is the title of the film, but some sources were using the title without a colon all except where is using the colon from Amazon.com, MovieWeb, Tune Find, Decider, Netflix and Microsoft. The colon is a important part of the title, like other films using it (similar to Step Up: Revolution – Music from the Motion Picture) and this is consider as a common name. — it instead appears to be an original research addition for some reason other than actual title accuracy. On more than one occasion now, an anonymous IP has gone around Wikipedia actively breaking links to this article by prematurely rewording them to the correct title despite the fact that it makes them redlinks, so I'm submitting this for discussion on their behalf since they likely don't know how to do it themselves — but if this is going to keep happening, then the title needs to be fixed. 60.50.249.205 (talk) 09:00, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

October 31, 2016

  • (Discuss)CADCAD (disambiguation) – Moving the disambiguation page here was plainly a bad idea. The huge number of pages that had to be disambiguated after the move should have been a clue. CAD (computer-aided design) is used in every company in the world that designs anything from a pencil to a spacecraft. The acronym is well known and widely used outside of the design environment, perhaps even better known than its full name. The same cannot be said for coronary artery disease. The acronym there is probably only used much by health professionals. Pageviews of the article page are not evidence of use of the CAD acronym. As for Canadian dollar, I doubt that anyone has tried to find that page by typing "CAD". Did no one think to inform the Wikiprojects that have computer-aided design within their scope? They should have been informed, and if they had been I suspect a rather different result would have been arrived at to the discussion on a backwater disambiguation talk page. If this move is allowed to stand I predict that it won't be long before there are a heap more CAD links created that will need disambiguating all over again. SpinningSpark 23:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)KAMI → ? – Until last week, this article got 3 views per day, while KAMI (AM) got 2 views per day. Since 27 October 2016, this article got 15 views per day supposedly due to an American rapper of the same name, Kami (stylized as KAMI), whose recently released "Home Movies" music video featuring Vic Mensa and Joey Purp received coverage in online music magazines [11][12][13][14]. I don't think this article is the primary topic and I believe it needs to be moved to the title with parentheses (e.g. "KAMI (group)" or "KAMI (organization)"). 153.207.35.208 (talk) 15:48, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Hatch ActHatch Act (disambiguation) – While there are two acts known as the Hatch Act, it's very clear that the 1939 act is much more noteworthy and much more likely to be referred to simply as "the Hatch Act". Here are a couple of the first sources that come up when you google "hatch act" that all talk about the 1939 act without bothering to specify "of 1939": [15] [16] [17]. The 1939 act has come up in the news very recently, and with no exception (that I could find anyway), all news outlets seem to be calling it simply "the Hatch Act" (rather than "the Hatch Act of 1939"); examples: CNN, New York Times, The Hill, New York Daily News, Slate. Per WP:COMMONNAME, articles should be titled with their commonly recognized name rather than their formal/"correct" name. Therefore, I'm proposing that the 1939 act be moved to "Hatch Act", that the current disambiguation page at "Hatch Act" be moved to "Hatch Act (disambiguation)", and that "Hatch Act of 1939" be made to redirect to "Hatch Act". Of course, this move will also necessitate adding a {{for}} template at the top of the 1939 act article, so that the 1887 act can also be found. IagoQnsi (talk) 14:41, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

October 30, 2016

October 29, 2016

  • (Discuss)White House Farm murdersWhite House Farm Killings – Following BRD process I propose that we change the title to 'Killings', as opposed to 'Murders'. There is at least some doubt that these were murders (and we may consider is significant that JB is the only life-tariff prisoner in the UK protesting his innocence) - but they were undoubtedly killings, hence according to article naming policy we should use a non-judgemental descriptive title for the article. It will mean that the title remains valid whatever view is taken about the merits of the police case or Jeremy Bamber's defence. A further reason for the rename is that this is effectively a BLP topic, hence NPOV is of prime importance. Springnuts (talk) 14:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)Intersex surgeryIntersex medical interventions – This request follows earlier discussion, where some commenters prefered to await implementation of changes to the page before deciding on a new page name. Additions and changes to article content have been made, including the WP:SPLIT of some content from Intersex. The changes have broadened the scope of the article beyond surgeries on intersex people to include non-surgical interventions. The scope of the article has not been changed to include other social groups. The proposed name seeks to take the earlier discussion into account. Trankuility (talk) 06:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

October 28, 2016

  • (Discuss)The Bridge (2013 TV series)The Bridge (2013 U.S. TV series) – Confusion can occur between this and the original Danish/Swedish TV series. Although there is no other TV series from 2013 named "The Bridge", the original Danish/Swedish series did air in this year. Adding the country of origin for this remake would remove this confusion. The Wikipedia page for the original Danish/Swedish series is no longer identified by its nationality, which is what prevented the previous move request. Hithere56 (talk) 23:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Elapsed listings

  • (Discuss)The Love Boat: The Next WaveLove Boat: The Next Wave – The title of the show is Love Boat: The Next Wave not The Love Boat: The Next Wave, because it was used in the show and the same from the IMDb website - it instead appears to be an original research addition for some reason other than actual title accuracy. On more than one occasion now, an anonymous IP has gone around Wikipedia actively breaking links to this article by prematurely rewording them to the correct title despite the fact that it makes them redlinks, so I'm submitting this for discussion on their behalf since they likely don't know how to do it themselves - but if this is going to keep happening, then the title needs to be fixed. 110.159.10.127 (talk) 05:30, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

  • (Discuss)Ghosts 'n Goblins (series)Ghosts 'n Goblins – The Ghosts 'n Goblins series seems to meet the following criteria on WP:NCVG:

    "...If a video game series has a naming conflict solely with the first game in the series (e.g., Final Fantasy), the series page should reside at the primary name if the series possesses a minimum of 3 video game articles as well as at least one other unrelated video game or related media item. Otherwise, the first game in the series should occupy the primary name, and the series article should be disambiguated with "... (series)"."

    ...So, with that being said, should the series page be moved to the base title? Steel1943 (talk) 14:45, 17 October 2016 (UTC)--Relisting. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 03:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Discuss)24K Magic (album)24K Magic – The rationale is simple. Whoever sees the album article, has access to all the songs o the album. But, when we keep the disambiguation (which is not necessary as the album page links to the song article, just like the disambig links to both articles.) We are making things easy for the reader by keeping this page on the suggested title. This is the parent album which covers the song too. It is the only other topic with this name. Similar to Can't Be Tamed, etc. MaranoFan (talk) 09:57, 13 October 2016 (UTC)--Even if the nominator is opposing his own move, it attracted enough attention for this. Relisting to obtain a clearer consensus (if there is one) © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 05:29, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Malformed requests

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