Wikipedia:Today's featured list/Submissions

Today's featured list submissions This star symbolizes the featured content on Wikipedia. Lists suggested here must be featured lists that have not previously appeared on the main page. Today's featured list launched in June 2011. Initially, each Monday's list will be selected by the FL directors. In due course, a consensus-based selection system will be established, but in the short term our aim is to encourage as many submissions as possible. To submit a list for main page consideration, you simply need to draft a short summary of the list, in approximately 1000 characters, along with a relevant image from the list itself, using the template provided below. Should you need any assistance using the template, feel free to ask for help on the talk page. If you are nominating a list submitted by someone else, consider notifying the significant contributor(s) with {{subst:tfln|NAME OF LIST}} ~~~~ The community will review submissions, and suggest improvements where appropriate. If a blurb receives broad support, and there are no actionable objections, one of the directors will transfer it over to our pool of accepted submissions. In rare circumstances, the directors reserve the right to exclude a list from main page consideration, a practice consistent with other main page sections such as Today's featured article and Picture of the day. Should this ever happen, a detailed explanation will be given.

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List of Interstate Highways in Texas

I-10 at the interchange with the West Sam Houston Tollway

The Interstate Highways in Texas cover 3,233.4 miles (5,203.7 km) in the state. The freeways are maintained by the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT) as the state agency responsible for all state highways, including the Interstate Highways in Texas. There are nine primary routes, six auxiliary routes and two branches of Interstate 35 (I-35) as it splits into eastern and western branches near Fort Worth and Dallas. The Interstate Highway with the longest segment in Texas is I-10 (interchange with I-45 pictured) at 878.6 miles (1,414.0 km), making it also the longest continuous untolled freeway under a single authority in North America; the shortest in the state is I-110 at 0.9 miles (1.4 km). The construction of the Interstate Highway System in Texas actually began well before these routes were designated as such. Part of the Gulf Freeway between Galveston and Houston was opened in 1951, eight years before it was designated I-45. The opening of a short section of I-27 in 1992 completed the system. Planning is ongoing for a proposed extension of I-69 southward from its current terminus in Indiana through Texas to the United States – Mexico border. (Full list...)

• Support as nominator. Imzadi 1979 → 00:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
• Support the list has no major issues, and the blurb looks reasonable. My support is unconditional, although I do feel that File:45intoI-10 2.jpg would look better than the current image. —WFC— 00:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Could you fix refs 5 and 6 though? I wasn't paying close enough attention last night (I'm used to false positives for the blue background in checklinks.) —WFC— 11:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
    • I thought that I replied, but those two refs are fixed. As for the photo, I used this one to avoid trying to shoe-horn a mention of I-45 into the paragraph. Imzadi 1979 → 22:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
      • I've done some things that I reckon would improve the blurb's readability, and incorporated a possible shoehorn for the image. As it's a pretty substantial change, and as reverting later would prove difficult if anyone copyedits, I've reverted for now. The changes can be seen here. —WFC— 23:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
      • (If that version is used, note that I didn't update the alt text and caption) —WFC— 23:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
        • Whatever you guys think is best. I didn't work on the article to get it to FLC, I'm just a member of the project that helps maintain the article. When the request page opened, I figured I'd toss in the suggestion. (This was the first list we ever used a the selected article on Portal: U.S. Roads so that was the starting place for the blurb.) Imzadi 1979 → 23:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
          • Cool, I've made the switch, although my changes should be checked for accuracy by an expert. The old version can be seen through the same link I gave above. —WFC— 18:19, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

• Can we fix the "This is a list..." in the lead, ensure en-dashes are used correctly in the refs, ensure "work"s are in italics and "publishers" are not etc. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Imzadi has fixed the intro and added dashes to the refs, and the publishers' formatting looks good. Only thing that I can tell is missing is alt text for the images. Add that and this will be good to go. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

List of volcanoes in Indonesia

Mount Semeru above Mount Bromo, East Java

The geography of Indonesia is dominated by volcanoes that are formed due to subduction zones between the Eurasian Plate and the Indo-Australian Plate. Some of the volcanoes are notable for their eruptions, for instance, Krakatoa for its global effects in 1883, Lake Toba for its supervolcanic eruption estimated to have occurred 74,000 Before Present which was responsible for six years of volcanic winter, and Mount Tambora for the most violent eruption in recorded history in 1815. Volcanoes in Indonesia are a part of the Pacific Ring of Fire. The most active volcanoes are Kelud and Merapi on Java island which have been responsible for thousands of deaths in the region. Since AD 1000, Kelud has erupted more than 30 times, of which the largest eruption was at scale 5 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI), while Merapi has erupted more than 80 times. The International Association of Volcanology and Chemistry of the Earth's Interior has named Merapi as a Decade Volcano since 1995 because of its high volcanic activity. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 15:59, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

• Support. Ref 28 needs fixing, otherwise this looks good. —WFC— 12:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done Neelix (talk) 13:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Oppose needs work.

• Starts "This is a list of volcanoes in Indonesia..."
• Lead image is awful, just use the image of the volcano and put the map somewhere else.
• Table should be sortable really. And comply with WP:ACCESS re: col/row scopes.
• Images needs alt text.
• Image captions should only take a full stop if they are complete sentences.
• What's with the colour coding on the Major eruptions table?
• Sorting in that table needs work too.

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:13, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the "This is a list of..." sentence from the lede, moved the map to the "Scope" section, added alt text to all the images, removed all of the inappropriate full stops, and removed the unhelpful colour coding from the table of major eruptions. I have tried fixing the sorting on that table, but I'm having trouble making the dates sort properly. Any help on this front would be greatly appreciated. Neelix (talk) 19:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I think all the tables in this list should be sortable. Meanwhile, for sorting by date, have a look at the {{dts}} template. For some of the unknowns, you may need to force the template a little (i.e. use a fake, non-displayed date) so they sort appropriately. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done Neelix (talk) 13:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

List of International Mathematical Olympiads

The four perfect scorers in the 2001 IMO

The International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO) is an annual six-problem, two-day, international high school mathematics competition focused primarily on pre-collegiate mathematics, and is the oldest of the International Science Olympiads. The first IMO was held in Romania in 1959. It has since been held annually, except in 1980. About 100 countries send teams of up to six students, plus one team leader, one deputy leader, and observers. The content ranges from precalculus to branches of mathematics such as projective and complex geometry, functional equations and well-grounded number theory. Fields such as functional analysis, calculus, field theory (and other branches of abstract algebra and topology) are generally not present on the olympiad. The awards for exceptional performance include medals for a fraction of the competitors that is as close to one-half of the participants as the judges can make it, and honorable mentions for participants who solve at least one problem perfectly. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 17:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment The blurb and image are perfect, and referencing issues are relatively minor (refs 11, 19 and 20 need attention, and foreign-language refs should be denoted as such). However, the lead is somewhat lacking by 2011 standards. Is there anything more that can be written about the subject? —WFC— 11:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I have repaired the link rot, signalled the foreign-language references, and extended the lede. Neelix (talk) 14:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm taking this list on, because while I don't think it's quite ready yet, it's very important that we try to get a decent maths-related list onto the main page. For now, reviewers' time would be better spent elsewhere. I'll comment again when I feel this is fully up to scratch. —WFC— 17:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

List of Harry Potter cast members

Daniel Radcliffe has been the icon of the film series since the release of the first film in 2001.

The Harry Potter film series is based on the Harry Potter novels by the British author J. K. Rowling. Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson have played Harry Potter, Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger in all the films. When they cast, only Radcliffe had previously acted in a film. The other Harry Potter cast members are some of the most renowned actors of the United Kingdom and Ireland. Sixteen actors have appeared as the same character in the first six films of the franchise. With the exception of Chris Columbus, each director has had a cameo appearance in their respective film: Alfonso Cuarón appears as a wizard holding a candle during a scene at The Three Broomsticks in Prisoner of Azkaban; Mike Newell is heard briefly as the radio presenter in Frank Bryce's house in Goblet of Fire; and David Yates features as a wizard within a magical moving portrait in Order of the Phoenix. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 22:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose While the range of actors to have appeared in the film is impressive, I don't think the second half of the blurb does this justice. Using Ballon d'Or as an example, many of the past winners could truly be described as legends of the game, in the same way that the likes of Gambon and Cleese could be considered legendary actors. But I felt it was impossible to list them all, so instead I decided to hone in on significant, relevant facts about a few of them. But of more concern is the list itself. There are several problematic references: several dead or broken refs, but also references of questionable reliability, as well as bare URLs. Perhaps of most concern is the question of accessibility of the table. I think the list would benefit from going through WP:FLRC to address these issues. —WFC— 12:41, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I have repaired the link rot and filled out the bare urls. Would you mind identifying the specific references you find to be of questionable reliability? Neelix (talk) 13:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

This is by no means an exhaustive list (partly due to limited time, partly because WP:ACCESS is still my biggest concern), but Snitchseeker and Mugglenet seem inappropriate. HPANA would be a valid external link, but should not be cited directly. Its reliability is based on its source being reliable; the original source should be cited. —WFC— 15:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the Snitchseeker and Mugglenet references and switched the HPANA reference so that it links directly to the original source. Neelix (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment we'd be slated if we used that blurb, it's blue link city.... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I have rewritten the second half of the blurb so that it is not a partial list in itself and so that it requires less blue links. Neelix (talk) 14:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Ballon d'Or

Three-time Ballon d'Or winner Michel Platini

Three-time Ballon d'Or winner Michel Platini

The Ballon d'Or was an annual association football award. It was presented to the player who had been considered to have been the best in European football over the previous calendar year. The award was conceived by France Football's chief magazine writer Gabriel Hanot, who asked his colleagues to vote for the player of the year in Europe in 1956. The inaugural winner was England international Stanley Matthews, who played for Blackpool. Originally only open to European players at European clubs, the eligibility rules were changed in 1995. The changes allowed non-Europeans playing in Europe to be considered; Liberian striker George Weah won the 1995 award. Frenchman Michel Platini (pictured) is the only player to have won the Ballon d'Or three times in a row. Netherlands internationals Johan Cruyff and Marco van Basten also received the award three times each. The Ballon d'Or was last awarded in 2009, to Lionel Messi of Argentina, before merging with the FIFA World Player of the Year award to create the FIFA Ballon d'Or. (Full list...)

—WFC— 23:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comments – Cleaned up a few things in the list, but there are still a few issues I'd like to see resolved before this goes on the main page. First, there's too much color in the table; all of the years and all winners' rows are in gray. It would be better if the color only appeared in the winners column, with matching symbols added per WP:ACCESS. Second, it would be nice to have a small key with the color/symbol explained, a note about where the year links go, and an explanation for the = signs in the place column (I assume that means the players tied for that position). Third, reference 6 should have an indication of the language it's in. This is a good topic for TFL, and once these issues are addressed I'll support this. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:19, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

List of London Underground stations

The underground sign at Westminster underground station

The London Underground is a metro system in the United Kingdom that serves Greater London and adjacent districts of Essex, Hertfordshire and Buckinghamshire. Its first section opened in 1863, making it the oldest underground metro system in the world. The system operates below ground in central London but generally runs on the surface in the outlying suburbs. Approximately 55 per cent of its routes are above ground. The system comprises 11 lines, serving 270 Underground stations. The system is operated by Transport for London (TfL). Most of the system is north of the River Thames with stations in the City of London or one of twenty-seven London boroughs. Stations at the north-eastern end of the Central line are in the Epping Forest district of Essex and at the north-western end of the Metropolitan line are in the Three Rivers and Watford districts of Hertfordshire and the Chiltern district of Buckinghamshire. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment The second most well known TfL claim copyright over that logo [1]. Whether the claim is valid is another matter, but without a strong rebuttal I wouldn't be comfortable using it on the main page. Regardless, perhaps a picture of a station would make more sense? Applying local knowledge Mornington Crescent is a distinctive-looking one that I reckon would look good at 100 pixels. —WFC— 22:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
  • TfL can claim whatever they like, but CDPA88 §62 is absolutely clear where they can shove their claim. This photograph shows a part of a building, permanently situated on a part of the building open to the public, and "buildings, sculptures, models for buildings and works of artistic craftsmanship, if permanently situated in a public place or in premises open to the public" by definition can never be considered copyright under UK law. – iridescent 22:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
    • Just to clarify, Iridescent is mostly right. They can claim copyright, but, even if the copyright claim is legitimate, we can do what we want with freely released photographs of said copyrighted element if it is part of a building permanently yadda yadda, as it is. J Milburn (talk) 10:57, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
      • So the blurb image is okay to stay? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:15, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
        • Sounds like it to me. Neelix (talk) 18:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments Looks basically good. Just a couple of minor issues...

• One intentional dab link (can stay)
• all images need alt text
• One dead external link
• What is the "Mainline opened" column? It is not mentioned in the short intro in the "Stations" section either.
• How can stations be in more than one zone? Could do with a footnote or an explanation in the lead.
• Some references (3, 4, 6, 8) look more like notes to me and should go in the notes section IMHO.
• Values in the "Usage" column should use the same level of precision, cf. 1.2 versus 1.607, etc.

bamse (talk) 00:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft

Microsoft's headquarters are in Redmond, Washington

Microsoft is an American public multinational corporation headquartered in Redmond, Washington, USA that develops, manufactures, licenses, and supports a wide range of products and services predominantly related to computing through its various product divisions. Microsoft has acquired 128 companies, purchased stakes in 60 companies, and made 24 divestments. Of the companies that Microsoft has acquired, 99 were based in the United States. Since Microsoft's first acquisition in 1987, it has purchased an average of six companies a year. The company has purchased more than ten companies a year since 2005, and it acquired 18 firms in 2006, the most in a single year, including Onfolio, Lionhead Studios, Massive Incorporated, ProClarity, Winternals Software, and Colloquis. On May 10, 2011, Microsoft announced it would acquire Skype for $8.5 billion in cash. Microsoft has also obtained an 11.5% stake in Comcast for $1 billion, a 22.98% stake in Telewest Communications for $2.263 billion, and a 3% stake in AT&T for $5 billion. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 19:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to trial a generic technical review, and see how it goes. This is the first one I've done like this, so bear with me.

• Alt text: Alt text needed for lead image.
• Links to DAB pages: No problems
• Image use: Image copyright appears fine.
• Table accessibility: Column scopes done. No other obvious issues.
• Link rot: Three dead links. Additionally, the reference with a title beginning "Microsoft to Acquire Greenfield Online" no longer specifically sources the Greenfield acquisition.

—WFC— 17:25, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I have added alt text to the lede image and repaired the link rot. Neelix (talk) 21:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

List of valkyrie names in Norse mythology

"Walkyrien" (1905) by Emil Doepler

In Norse mythology, a valkyrie is one of a host of female figures who choose which warriors will win or die in battle. The Old Norse poems Völuspá, Grímnismál, Darraðarljóð, and the Nafnaþulur section of the Prose Edda book Skáldskaparmál provide lists of valkyrie names. Other valkyrie names appear solely outside these lists, such as Sigrún (which is attested in the poems Helgakviða Hundingsbana I and Helgakviða Hundingsbana II). Valkyrie names commonly emphasize associations with battle and, in many cases, on the spear—a weapon heavily associated with the god Odin. Scholars such as Hilda Ellis Davidson and Rudolf Simek propose that the names of the valkyries themselves contain no individuality, but are rather descriptive of the traits and nature of war-goddesses, and are possibly the descriptive creations of skalds, a type of traditional Scandinavian poet. Some valkyrie names may be descriptive of the roles and abilities of the valkyries. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 20:56, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Technical checks:

• Alt text: Alt text needed for lead image.

• Links to DAB pages: The redirects that point back to this list should be delinked

• Image use: Copyright looks good for the lead image. I'm 99% sure that the copyright on the navbox image has also expired, but {{PD-self}} should be replaced with something more appropriate. PD-self is for where the uploader is the copyright holder.

• Table accessibility: Column and row scopes present. Looks good.

• Link rot: No issues.

—WFC— 17:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I have added alt text to the lede image, delinked the self-links, and replaced the PD-self with PD-art. Neelix (talk) 20:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Support Short but sweet. Nice work! One last thing though: have you contacted the original FLC nominator? —WFC— 21:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done Neelix (talk) 22:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Basically support with just a couple of questions/suggestions.

• In the lead, "einherjar" should probably be explained or at least wikilinked.
• I'd also wikilink Norse mythology since it appears also in the title.
• I am trying to make sense of the sentence "Valkyrie names commonly emphasize associations with battle and, in many cases, on the spear—a weapon heavily associated with the god Odin.", especially the second part. Probably it is obvious, but does it read: "Valkyrie names commonly emphasize associations on the spear...?" bamse (talk) 22:07, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

List of scientific publications by Albert Einstein

First page from Einstein's manuscript explaining general relativity

Albert Einstein was a renowned theoretical physicist of the 20th century; during his career, he published hundreds of scientific books and articles. Best known for his theories of special relativity and general relativity, Einstein also made important contributions to statistical mechanics, especially his treatment of Brownian motion. Other high profile works included his resolution of the paradox of specific heats, and his connection of fluctuations and dissipation. Despite his reservations about its interpretation, Einstein also made seminal contributions to quantum mechanics and, indirectly, quantum field theory, primarily through his theoretical studies of the photon. In addition to the work he did by himself, he also collaborated with other scientists on additional projects, such as the Bose–Einstein statistics and the Einstein refrigerator. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 21:40, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Technical and general checks

• Alt text: Alt text needed for both images.

• Links to DAB pages: No issues.

• Image use: Copyrights seem fine for both images.

• Table accessibility: Column scopes added (I see no great benefit to row scopes). Colour usage is fine, as it is used in conjunction with a co-author. No issues.

• Link rot: No issues.

• Primary contributor informed: To my knowledge, User:WillowW hasn't been informed. Haven't posted a notification in case I'm mistaken.

—WFC— 18:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I have added alts to both images and informed Willow of the nomination. Neelix (talk) 23:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm grateful that Einstein's list has been nominated; it was a labour of love. :) Thank you! Willow (talk) 01:59, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

The first paragraph of the lead could do with some inline citation, purely because most of it is not covered by subsequent referencing in the list. On all other counts this is absolutely superb, and I look forward to supporting it very soon. —WFC— 13:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Support I've given the blurb a bit of a copy-edit, and am happy with the list overall. —WFC— TFL notices 21:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
• Comments – Couple things I'd like to see taken care of before this is put into prep. First, the color and symbol are being used for different things (papers he co-authored and unofficial translations, respectively). This means that the colored rows don't have a matching symbol, which they should. Second thing is that there is bolding in the classification and notes column; unless classification is normally in bold, the bolding should be removed or changed to italics per MOS:BOLD. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 20:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
  • 100% of lavender rows now contain the phrase "co-author" (this wasn't the case when you posted to be fair) while 0% of plain rows contain it. A symbol is therefore not necessary, as there is no loss of information for the blind or colourblind. I have no experience with the stylistic convention used in this list, so I'll defer to someone who does on the bolding. —WFC— 16:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Army Groups of the National Revolutionary Army

Flag of the National Revolutionary Army

The Army Group was the largest conventional mobile formation in the organization of the National Revolutionary Army of the Republic of China during the Second Sino-Japanese War. The first Army Groups were established immediately after the Japanese attack at Marco Polo Bridge on 7 July 1937, and new Army Groups continued to be formed throughout the war. During the war, the only military formations larger than the Army Group were the Military Regions, which were defined by geographical boundaries, and the Army Corps, of which only four were formed and only during the Battle of Wuhan. In effect, the Army Group was the largest fighting unit of the National Revolutionary Army, and usually exercised command over two or more armies or several corps, and assorted lesser units. By the end of the war with Japan, 40 Army Groups were in existence. The civil war saw three additional Army Groups being formed, even as they were gradually being replaced by newly-formed Army Corps, by then a largely analogous formation. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 15:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC) Technical and general checks

• Alt text: Done.

• Links to DAB pages: None

• Image use: No issues

• Table accessibility: I'd prefer an expert to sign this off, but I believe that I have resolved the most pressing accessibility issues.

• Link rot: No issues.

• Primary contributor informed? User:Miborovsky has not edited since 3 March 2010.

Sorry this has taken so long. —WFC— 23:23, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

List of English words containing Q not followed by U

Qwerty, one of the few native English words with q and no u in current usage, is derived from the first six letters of a standard keyboard layout.

In English, the letter q is usually followed by the letter u, but there are some exceptions. The majority of these are naturalised from Arabic, Chinese, Hebrew, Inuktitut, or other languages which do not use the English alphabet, with q representing a sound not found in English. For example, in the Chinese pinyin alphabet, qi is pronounced /tʃi/ by an English speaker, as pinyin uses ‹q› to represent the sound [tɕʰ], which is approximated as [tʃ] in English. In other examples, q represents [q] in standard Arabic, such as in qat and faqir. In Arabic, the letter ق, traditionally romanised as q, is quite distinct from ك, traditionally romanised as k; for example, قلب /qalb/ means "heart" but كلب /kalb/ means "dog". However, alternative spellings are sometimes accepted which use k (or sometimes c) in place of q. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 00:58, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Looks basically good, but needs a little work to make it ready for the main page.

• Images need ALT-text.
• The intro uses some vagueness ("almost all", "most", "many",...) which could possibly be fixed (at least partially) without damaging the flow of the prose.
• "Almost all the words in this list are nouns..." and "Only common nouns are included in the list..." could be considered contradictory. (I know what is meant, but maybe it could be reworded.)
• Empty table cells should be filled with a hyphen.
• The treatment of variant forms seems inconsistent in the table. E.g. qadi (main entry), qazi (with entry referring to qadi), qaadee (only mentioned in the "other forms" column under qadi, i.e. without its own entry unlike qaadee). Many more examples of this inconsistency exist.
• Inconsistency in the use of foreign language and in the use of transcriptions or not in the "Etymology" column. (compare "buqsha" and "faqir" and "suq", but many more examples exist).
• How about words with double "qq" (e.g. Zaqqum). The first "q" is not followed by a "u". Should those words be listed in the table?
• Some languages are linked twice in the table, some once. AFAIK, each row should stand on its own, so all languages should be linked. Same for some other words, such as "Muslim".
• Inqilab links to a documentary film while the list says: "A revolution in India or Pakistan"
• The Muqaddam article does not mention Bangladesh, while the list says: "A Bangladeshi headman"
• Qanun links to laws while the list says: "A type of harp."
• "qindar" is linked to Albanian lek but should probably be linked to qindarka instead.
• "souq" is mentioned in the image caption but not in the table.
• "Quinion, Michael (2009). Why is Q Always Followed by U? Word-perfect Answers to the Most-asked Questions about Language" needs publisher information.
• Article uses both "Retrieved" and "Last accessed". One or the other should be used.
• Dictionaries in the "Notes" section could have more (and more consistent) information such as publisher, year and edition.
• Is the list complete (for the given set of dictionaries)?

bamse (talk) 13:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

List of vegetable oils

Olive oil

Vegetable fats and oils are lipid materials derived from plants. There are three methods for extracting vegetable oils from plants. The relevant part of the plant may be placed under pressure to "extract" the oil, giving an expressed oil. Oils may also be extracted from plants by dissolving parts of plants in water or another solvent. The solution may be separated from the plant material and concentrated, giving an extracted or leached oil. The mixture may also be separated by distilling the oil away from the plant material. Oils extracted by this latter method are called essential oils. Essential oils often have different properties and uses than pressed or leached vegetable oils. Macerated oils are made by infusing parts of plants in a base oil, a process known as maceration. Although most plants contain some oil, only the oil from certain major oil crops complemented by a few dozen minor oil crops is widely used and traded. These oils are one of several types of plant oils. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 02:28, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment. The blurb looks good and the image is well chosen and appears to be free. However, the list's age is apparent. The derelict state of the notes section alone is enough to keep me from supporting. Goodraise 23:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Chicago Bulls seasons

Michael Jordan dunking the basketball

The Chicago Bulls are a professional basketball team based in Chicago, Illinois, playing in the Central Division of the Eastern Conference in the National Basketball Association (NBA). In their 44 seasons, the Bulls have achieved a winning record 20 times, and have appeared in the NBA playoffs 29 times. The franchise was founded in 1966 by Dick Klein. Coached by Johnny Kerr, the team finished its first season with a 33–48 record, the best record achieved by an expansion team in its first year of play.

Dick Motta replaced Kerr in 1969, and under his leadership, the Bulls made the playoffs 6 out of 8 times from 1969 to 1976. The team qualified for the playoffs just twice between 1977 and 1984, a period in which the team used eight different head coaches. The Bulls' luck improved after selecting Michael Jordan (pictured) with the third overall pick in the 1984 NBA Draft. From 1985 to 1998, Jordan led the Bulls to the playoffs every season he was on the team's roster, winning 6 championships during that span. After Jordan retired in 1998, the Bulls entered a period of rebuilding, failing to reach the playoffs for 6 years. The Bulls showed signs of improvement in 2005, returning to the playoffs 3 out of 4 seasons. In 2008, the team drafted Derrick Rose with the first overall pick. In 2011, Rose led the Bulls back to the Conference Finals for the first time since Jordan. (Full list...)

—Chris!_c/t 07:11, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comments – Made a few fixes to the list, including adding alt text to an image. I see two things that should be fixed before this appears on the Main Page. First, there is a dead link (ref 50). Second, each entry in the tables could use row scopes per WP:ACCESS. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Fixed ref. The table already has row scopes.—Chris!_c/t 19:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Didn't know you could have the row scopes without the bolding, so I didn't check the table for them. Learned something new today. Anyway, I support the list for TFL now. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I support this nomination as well.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:00, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Just a quick question, is ¤ an WP:ACCESSible symbol? Is it pronounced by a screen-reader? The Rambling Man (talk) 14:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England

St Mary's Church, Barnetby

The Churches Conservation Trust is a charity whose purpose is to protect historic churches that have been made redundant by the Church of England. There are 103 churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in the East of England. The ages of the churches spread from St Nicholas' Church, Feltwell, which contains fabric from the Saxon era, to the newest church in the list, St Michael the Archangel's Church, Booton, which was built in the later part of the 19th century. The main architectural styles represented are Norman and English Gothic. There is one church in Georgian style (Old All Saints Church, Great Steeping), one in Palladian style (St Andrew's Church, Gunton), and the newest six churches are Gothic Revival in style. All the churches have been designated by English Heritage as listed buildings. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

List of amateur radio frequency bands in India

Antennas at a ham operator's station

Amateur radio is a hobby that is practised by over 16,000 licenced users in India. Five categories of licences are granted by the Wireless and Planning and Coordination Wing (WPC), a branch of the Ministry of Communications and Information Technology. In addition, the WPC allocates frequency spectrum in India, including the determination of which portion of the spectrum is to be amateur radio frequency bands. To obtain a licence in the first four categories, candidates must pass the Amateur Station Operator's Certificate examination conducted by the WPC. This exam is held monthly in Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai, every two months in Ahmedabad, Nagpur and Hyderabad, and every four months in some smaller cities. After passing the examination, the candidate must clear a police interview. Each licence category has certain privileges allotted to it, including the allotment of frequencies, output power, and the emission modes. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Technical and general checks

• Alt text: Alt text needed for lead image.

• Links to DAB pages: No issues

• Image use: Copyright for lead image appears fine.

• Table accessibility: Have worked on this myself. Column scopes present throughout. Row scopes haven't been added, but may be desirable for some of the tables. Use of colour not an issue.

• Link rot: No issues.

• Primary contributor informed: User:Nichalp hasn't edited since 31 January 2009. I've sent a notification as a courtesy, in the hope that the user might one day read it and know that the list continues to receive the attention that it deserves.

—WFC— 20:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I have added alt text to the image. Neelix (talk) 19:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

List of administrative and municipal divisions of the Republic of Adygea

Flag of the Republic of Adygea

The Republic of Adygea, an enclave within Krasnodar Krai located at the foothills of the Caucasus Mountains, is a federal subject of Russia. Since establishing and maintaining the structure of the administrative and municipal divisions of the Republic of Adygea is not explicitly specified in the Constitution of Russia as the responsibility of the federal government, this task falls within the scope of the responsibilities of the Republic of Adygea itself. Changes of the administrative-territorial structure of the Republic are authorized by the State Council. The republic's administrative divisions remain largely unchanged from the structure used during the Soviet era, with the notable exception of selsoviets—a low-level administrative unit type abolished after the new law on the administrative-territorial divisions had been adopted in May 2000. The republic is divided into seven raions and two republican urban okrugs. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 19:14, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

List of cutaneous conditions

A child with measles

Many conditions affect the human integumentary system—the organ system covering the entire surface of the body and is composed of skin, hair, nails, and related muscle and glands. The skin weighs an average of four kilograms, covers an area of two square meters, and is made of three distinct layers: the epidermis, dermis, and subcutaneous tissue. Conditions of the human integumentary system constitute a broad spectrum of diseases, also known as dermatoses, as well as many nonpathologic states. While only a small number of skin diseases account for most visits to the physician, thousands of skin conditions have been described. Classification of these conditions often presents many nosological challenges, since underlying etiologies and pathogenetics are often not known. Clinically, the diagnosis of any particular skin condition is made by gathering pertinent information regarding the presenting skin lesion(s), including the location, symptoms, duration, arrangement, morphology, and color. (Full list...)

Calmer Waters 07:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC) ; Major contributor My Core Competency is Competency

List of winners of the Mathcounts competition

President George W. Bush meets award recipients of the 2005 Mathcounts National Competition in the Oval Office Thursday, May 12, 2005

President George W. Bush meets award recipients of the 2005 Mathcounts National Competition in the Oval Office Thursday, May 12, 2005

Mathcounts is a middle school mathematics competition held in the United States. Each state sends a team of four to the national competition sponsored by the National Society of Professional Engineers. Each year, one individual winner and one team winner are chosen; the individual through a written examination and then an oral head-to-head competition (the Countdown round), and the team through a series of written examinations. Preparation for these events is generally conducted through Mathcounts supplementary material. This format was first used in 1984. The subject matter includes geometry, combinatorics, and algebra. Although they are included in some of the aforementioned subjects, complex numbers, calculus, and trigonometry are not featured in the contest. Some participants may be invited to meet the President of the United States or receive scholarships from sponsors. Trophies are given out at the state level, and occasionally at the national level (2001 national trophy pictured). (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 21:27, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose not a great nomination, bold links (against MOS), not up to date, 6 dead links, maintenance tags, badly formatted table, table sorting dubious (names should sort by surname), refs should comply with MOS (i.e WP:DASH, avoid all caps etc etc). The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
• Also that image at that size is pointless, as nothing can be made out. Cropping and zooming in wouldn't help, probably, as it's a low-res photo to start with.This 2010 photo would be a better starting point. Bencherlite^Talk 19:50, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the bold link, updated the references, repaired the link rot, taken care of the issues signalled by the maintenance tags and removed the tags, altered the table so that it sorts by surname, fixed the dashes, and removed the all caps. I have also switched the image in the blurb to be one that is more easily identifiable. Neelix (talk) 19:11, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

And I have delinked "United States" and "trophy", and changed "one individual winner and one team winner is" to "one individual winner and one team winner are." Trimmed "The top team as well as the participants in the Countdown round are sometimes allowed a trip to the White House and meet the current President of the United States. They also may receive scholarships from Mathcounts' sponsors" as the blurb was a little on the long side. (I'm still not sure that we need on the main page a list of things that aren't involved in the contest). Bencherlite^Talk 16:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

List of national anthems

Template:TFLsound Neelix (talk) 14:56, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment When this goes onto the main page, it should be accompanied by a sound, certainly not an image (that's not Neelix's fault, the template doesn't currently accomodate sounds). I would also strongly argue that it should be a Featured Sound from an under-represented country. —WFC— 15:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Algeria, Bahamas, or Georgia would be good options. There are no featured lists or articles about either of those countries. Neelix (talk) 15:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with WFC. It is a great way to put featured sound on the main page, especially FS is not going to appear regularly on the main page.—Chris!_c/t 19:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

(ec) Nepal definitely has the cutest national anthem in the world, if you want to take that angle. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 19:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

yes, it is definetely the cutest one ^-^. But why I am not able to listen to audio files with the format .mid? Is it just me or is it a temporary Wikipedia error?--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_{Share–a–Power}^{[citation needed]} 19:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: Amazing list! Just two questions: Is "Nation" an appropriate heading for the columns in the second and third tables? Why are country/region/state names irregularly wikilinked (e.g. "Northern Ireland" is and "Republika Srpska" is not wikilinked)? bamse (talk) 20:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

"Nation" appears to me to be an appropriate heading in the second and third tables; if it is not, the two tables should not be included on the list, considering that the list is of national anthems. The Nation article defines the term as "a community of people who share a common territory and government"; that definition covers all the entities included in the list. I have delinked the non-sovereign countries, regions, and territories for consistency. Neelix (talk) 14:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Agreed about the first point, if they really all have a government. As for the linking, I'd rather link all of them, since who knows where Biafra (does it still exist BTW?), Marche, Saba, etc are located? bamse (talk) 15:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The second table is very important. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, its original omission is why national anthems, sub-national anthems and historical anthems were somehow bundled together. The third table's existence is the result of (and I refuse to pull any punches here) a stupidly packaged merge proposal, the result of which was swung by half a dozen misguided people acting in good faith. I would delete it in one fell swoop if I felt I could get away with doing so. In response to the above definition, I'll open one of many possible cans of worms in the hope that it might kick-start something: there is no English government. —WFC— 19:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The people of England still share the same government and territory; they simply share the former with other people as well. The definition of "nation" that we are using still applies. As for linking the non-sovereign countries, regions, and territories, it would only be consistent to do so if we linked all the United Nations member states as well. Are we in agreement to do that? Neelix (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't see the harm in linking. Given that a UN state can be a pointless answer on the quiz show of the same name, I'd say that there's a strong enough case to link all countries. —WFC— 14:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done Neelix (talk) 12:56, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

The list isn't quite there, but is moving in the right direction, and should be ready before long. In the meantime, it's worth trying to decide which sound to use.

The currently featured national anthems are those of Canada, China, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Honduras, Japan, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Pakistan, Panama, Spain, USA, The Vatican, and a video of the Russian one. I very strongly feel that we should restrict ourselves to one of those.

My feeling is that we should go for an underrepresented country. Depending on definition, that could be one of Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Honduras and Panama, on the basis that they get very little coverage of any kind. Alternatively we could go for China or Pakistan, on the grounds that for their size their Main Page and general Wikipedia coverage is pretty poor (even more so if we are talking about positive coverage). I note that it would be quite something for us to put the Chinese anthem on the main page, although I'm unsure whether we should steer towards or away from that "something". —WFC— 21:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

What makes you say that the list isn't ready yet? If there's something that needs work, then we should be working on it. Neelix (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

• • • The second paragraph of the lead covers the right topic, and the countries and songs chosen within it are appropriate, but the flow of prose is terrible. It reads as if half a dozen POVs are jockeying for position.
    • Water-tightness of referencing. I've got a library reservation on the Bristow book due to my work on List of historical national anthems, so when I get hold of that I'll use that. In the meantime, I can say with confidence that the anthems of Nepal and South Sudan aren't referenced. There is a good chance that Serbia, Afghanistan and Kazakstan will also require inline citation. Montenegro didn't exist until 2006, so again that will probably require inline citation. Finally, I'd venture a guess that the book does not cover many of the entries in the second table.

There are a couple of other things I have in mind, such as checking the accuracy of adoption dates, but I can resolve those concerns with the Bristow book. Quality of the second paragraph and inline citation from 2006 onwards/for non-UN nations are the bits I'm struggling with. —WFC— 15:15, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

I have reworded and reordered the second paragraph of the lede for flow. I have also added references for Nepal and South Sudan. Thanks for looking into the Bristow book! It will be good to know if anything else needs additional referencing. Neelix (talk) 21:11, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

• Update: A concerted effort has begun to improve referencing (not initiated by me I'm ashamed to say, but I will play an active role in it). There is also discussion about the scope of the list. Probably a majority of those at the talk page have expressed a desire to re-include anthems of non-sovereign states, although there are questions over whether such an expansion could be remotely comprehensive. There is a reasonable argument that the expansion would turn it into a list of national anthems of sovereign states, non-sovereign places that use God Save The Queen, Catalonia and Wales.

  I'm determined for this to be a jewel in TFL's crown one day, but at the moment I'd have to say "let's see where we are next month with this list". —WFC— 01:24, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Also, I have converted the blurb into sound format. I've chosen China on the basis that it is a featured sound, has the potential to be a blockbuster in terms of the hit count, and because per capita I would consider China to be an underrepresented country. —WFC— 01:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago

Cook's Tree Boa, Caroni Swamp, Trinidad

Forty-seven species of snake have been recorded in Trinidad and Tobago, making the snake population of this area the most diverse in the Caribbean. Forty-four of these snake species are found in Trinidad and twenty-one in Tobago. Many of these species are South American, most of which are present in Venezuela. Trinidad and Tobago consists of two main islands, Trinidad and Tobago, and several smaller islands. The Bocas Islands, which lie between Trinidad and Venezuela, in the Bocas del Dragón, consist of Chacachacare, Monos, Huevos and Gaspar Grande. Several smaller islands lie off Trinidad, but snakes have been recorded on only one of them: Caledonia Island. Snakes have been recorded on one island off Tobago: Little Tobago. Four species are venomous: two coral snake species, the fer-de-lance, and the South American bushmaster. The common coral is found on at least two of the Bocas Islands: Gaspar Grande and Monos. No venomous snakes inhabit Tobago. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 18:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Almost ready to go. Personally I would like to see more prose and a clearer image or even more images, but that is not essential. Some minor issues follow...

• Intro has some short paragraphs which could be merged or expanded (e.g. with information on how common these snakes are on T and T or whether there are any endemic snakes...)
• "sp." and "spp." should be explained somehow (in a footnote or so).
• I understand referencing the cells with "yes", but why referencing the species name (sometimes and not always)?
• Jargon "monotypic" could be explained shortly in prose.
• Possibly "...three Subfamily..." -> "...three subfamilies..."!?
• There is no intro for the "Subfamily Dipsadinae" section.
• Note 34 is unreferenced
• Possibly "...found all over the world, except in..."-> "...found all over the world, except for..."!?
• In the "Family Colubridae" section, possibly "...are found on Trinidad and Tobago." -> "...are found in Trinidad and Tobago." (since the country is meant here). Same for the "Family Elapidae" and "Family Viperidae" sections.

bamse (talk) 16:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Timeline of Jane Austen

A watercolour sketch of Jane Austen by her sister Cassandra

Jane Austen lived her entire life as part of a family located socially and economically on the lower fringes of the English gentry. She was primarily educated at home by her father and older brothers and through her own reading. Her apprenticeship as a writer lasted from her teenage years until she was about thirty-five years old. During this period, she wrote three major novels and began a fourth. From 1811 until 1815, with the release of Sense and Sensibility, Pride and Prejudice, Mansfield Park, and Emma, she achieved success as a published writer. She wrote two additional novels, Northanger Abbey and Persuasion, both published after her death in 1817, and began a third, eventually titled Sanditon, but died before it could be completed. Austen published all of her novels in the Regency period, during which King George III was declared permanently insane and his son was appointed as prince regent. Throughout most of Austen's adult life, Britain was at war with revolutionary France. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 22:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose very messy article, way too many large images all over the place, starts with "This timeline...", tables aren't accessible, MOS issues (DASH predominantly), this list could actually use a visit to FLRC... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have removed all the images from the table as well as the "This timeline..." lede. I have also added spacing around the appropriate endashes; I'm not sure if that's what you meant when you said that there were DASH problems. What other MOS issues and accessibility issues are there? Neelix (talk) 20:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, for one thing, this is what I mean by fixing dashes... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Where the images have been removed the "(pictured)" still appears in the table and should also be removed. Keith D (talk) 15:26, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

 Done Neelix (talk) 19:16, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

List of inhabited islands of Croatia

Historic town center of Rab on the island of Rab

In the Croatian part of the Adriatic Sea, there are 698 islands, 389 islets and 78 reefs, which makes the Croatian archipelago the largest in the Adriatic Sea and second largest in the Mediterranean Sea. Of the 698 islands, only 47 are inhabited in the sense that at least one person resides on that island. Some sources indicate that Croatia has 66 inhabited islands, which is the number of islands that have a settlement on them, but 19 of these islands have lost all of their permanent population as a result of population decline. The islands of Croatia have been populated since the times of Ancient Greece. The main industries on the islands are agriculture, fishing and tourism. The local economy is relatively underdeveloped while the cost of living is 10 to 30% higher than on the mainland, so the Croatian government provides various kinds of support and protection through its Islands Act to stimulate the economy of the islands, including charging no tolls on bridges, and providing cheaper or free ferry tickets for islanders. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 22:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose fails the basics, "This is a list of...", MOS fails (ref placement, table accessibility, overlinking of common terms ...), refs 4 and 5 are dead... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I have removed the "This is a list of..." lede, reduced the overlinking, and repaired the link rot. What needs to be altered with respect to reference placement and table accessibility? Neelix (talk) 20:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Table accessibility refers to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (accessibility)/Data tables tutorial, I guess. It says that "information should not be conveyed by color alone", but I don't think this applies to the table in question. As Neelix noted, more details would be useful. GregorB (talk) 10:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

GregorB is correct: no information is lost by not having the colour available, and therefore no symbols are needed. I've done a couple of accessibility-related edits. Additionally, I would suggest that the darkest red would be too strong for some people to read, and should be toned down. Also, most of the images still lack alt text. —WFC— 12:23, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I have toned down the darkest red and added alt text to all the remaining images. Neelix (talk) 19:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments:

• The map without the mainland looks a bit strange to me since it suggests that the Adriatic Sea covers the mainland (looks like an island nation). I believe the fact that the islands are close to the mainland is of importance here. Would prefer a normal map in which the islands are highlighted by different color or brightness compared to the mainland. Also, in the current map, the area highlighted by a red rectangle does not correspond to that depicted in the main map.
• Image captions: "A beach on the island of Brač" (don't see much of a beach here); "A forest on the island of Mljet" (maybe also point out the lake/bay? which is prominent in the image); "A vineyard on island of Vis" (needs a "the")
• "...which makes the Croatian archipelago the largest in the Adriatic Sea..."; possibly "makes"->"make"
• Not too fond of the parentheses in the first sentence. If possible, I'd get rid of it.
• Not as essential, but if possible I'd also reword the other sentences in the lead to get rid of parentheses.
• Imperial units should be added.
• I assume "not available" in the table means not available in sources used.
• It could be mentioned somewhere (either in prose or in a footnote) that the table is ordered by population, i.e. that the first column shows the order according to total population.
• url in references should be replaced with names of publishers (e.g. "geografija.hr", "hvar.hr", "peljar.cvs.hr")
• Is peljar.cvs.hr a WP:RS?
• Is geografija.hr a RS?
• Is www.lopud.nl a RS?
• Many references need publisher information.
• Is "Vjesnik. VJESNIK d.d.." correct in ref 4?
• If there are any recognized island groups or administrative divisions, I think these should be added as extra column(s) to the table.
• Is there more recent population data than from 2001?
• Why not add {{Islands of Croatia}} to the article?

bamse (talk) 07:43, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Nintendo 64 games

The Nintendo 64

The Nintendo 64 video game console has a library of games which were released in plastic ROM cartridges. Two small indents on the back of the carts allow it to connect or pass through the system's cartridge dustcover flaps. Of the console's 387 official releases, 84 were exclusive to Japan, 47 to North America, and 4 to Europe. The Nintendo 64 was first launched in Japan on June 23, 1996 with Super Mario 64, Pilotwings 64, and Saikyo Habu Shogi; in North America with Super Mario 64 and Pilotwings 64; and in Europe with Super Mario 64, Pilotwings 64, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire and Turok: Dinosaur Hunter. The last game to be published for the system was the North American-exclusive Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 on August 20, 2002. Despite the higher cost of producing cartridges and continued criticism over releasing a cartridge-based system, the total sales of the Nintendo 64 software outsold the total amount of Nintendo GameCube software. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 13:13, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

• Support. I'm not amazed, but I've been told that's not easily done. The blurb is adequate. The image is appropriate and appears to be free. Most importantly, the list itself underwent a review only recently and is still in decent shape. Goodraise 21:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

List of tablets on the Memorial to Heroic Self Sacrifice

The Memorial to Heroic Self Sacrifice

Ceramic tiles on a monument in Postman's Park in the City of London commemorate 54 ordinary people who died saving the lives of others. First proposed by artist George Frederic Watts in 1887, the scheme was not accepted at that time. In 1898 Watts was approached by the vicar of St Botolph's Aldersgate church, who was trying to raise the profile of a park in St Botolph's former churchyard. The unfinished memorial was unveiled in 1900 with space for 120 memorial tablets to be designed and made by William De Morgan, but only four of the tablets were in place. Watts died in 1904, and his widow Mary Watts took over the project. In 1906, after making 24 memorial tablets for the project, William De Morgan abandoned the ceramics business to become a novelist, and Royal Doulton took over making the tiles. Mary Watts lost interest in the project and work to complete it was sporadic, ceasing altogether in 1931 with only 53 of the planned 120 tiles in place. In 2009 the first new tablet was added to the memorial for 78 years. (Full list...)

 – iridescent 19:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Support an interesting topic and the hook is great in the blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:11, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Support: perfect and very interesting list! Just one question:

• "In 2009 a 54th tablet was added..."; shouldn't that be "2007"? bamse (talk) 09:53, 27 August 2011 (UTC) Oops, my fault. bamse (talk) 11:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
• How accurate is the text in the Inscription column meant to match the actual inscription concerning punctuation, capitalization, linebreaks, etc? For instance "In trying to save a boy's life" does not seem to have an apostrophe in the original. Possibly other examples exist. bamse (talk) 11:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Archbishops of Canterbury

List of the Archbishops of Canterbury in the Cathedral

The Archbishop of Canterbury is the head of the established Church of England and, symbolically, of the worldwide Anglican Communion. From the time of St. Augustine until the 16th century, the Archbishops of Canterbury were Roman Catholic and in full communion with the Bishop of Rome, the Pope. During the English Reformation, the church broke away from the authority of the Pope, at first temporarily and later more permanently. In the Middle Ages, there was considerable variation in the nomination of the archbishop and other bishops. At various times, the choice was made by the canons of Canterbury Cathedral, the King of England, or the Pope. Since the reformation, the church is explicitly a state church and the choice is legally that of the British crown; today it is made in the name of the Monarchy of the United Kingdom by the Prime Minister from a shortlist of two selected by an ad hoc committee called the Crown Nominations Commission. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 15:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment Nice list, but the article needs a bit of a touch-up in terms of formatting; the first paragraph is only once sentence long, the key is formatted strangely, and notes that are full sentence should have full stops, while notes that are not full sentences should not. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I have combined the first two paragraphs of the lede, reformatted the key, and added full stops to the ends of the full-sentence notes. Neelix (talk) 17:12, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Looks very good and almost ready.

• ALT text, checklinks and dablinks tests passed.
• I don't really understand or like the doubling of information in the section titles and the first (colspanned) table rows (e.g. "Pre-Norman conquest Archbishops" and "Pre-Conquest Archbishops of Canterbury"). IMHO the first table rows should be removed.
• In "Since then they have been outside of the succession...", "they" seems to refer to the archbishops but the previous sentence has "church" as subject.
• Is there a reason why the "vacant" periods don't start with the end date (including day and month) of the previous period but only with the respective year?
• How about the availability of images of the archbishops on wikipedia/commons? Could they fill an image column?
• Not sure I understand the meaning of "tr." and "nom.". For instance for John Whitgift (other examples exist) it says "nom." in the first column, but "translated" in the last. Shouldn't it say "tr." in the first column as well? bamse (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
• Refs 2 and 3 and 56 need publisher information and retrieval dates.
• Use either "accessed" or "retrieved" not both.
• Refs 33, 35, 44, 49, 50, 52, 55 need publisher information. They appear to be on a private page of Salvador Miranda. Has it been checked for WP:RS?
• All refs with a url should have accessdates (e.g. 59, 63,...). Please check.

bamse (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

List of National Parks of the United States

1938 poster for Yellowstone National Park, the first US national park created in 1872

The United States has 58 protected areas known as national parks, which are operated by the National Park Service, an agency of the Department of the Interior. National parks must be established by an act of the United States Congress. The first national park, Yellowstone, was signed into law by President Ulysses S. Grant in 1872, followed by Sequoia and Yosemite in 1890. The Organic Act of 1916 created the National Park Service "to conserve the scenery and the natural and historic objects and wildlife therein, and to provide for the enjoyment of the same in such manner and by such means as will leave them unimpaired for the enjoyment of future generations." The newest national park is Great Sand Dunes, established in 2004. (Full list...)

Reywas92^Talk 17:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
• Support. There's still room for improvement with some guidance from WP:SEEALSO. Aside from that, the blurb is adequate and the list is presentable. Goodraise 23:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Can you clarify what you want improved, please? Annotations are not really typical and these seem self-explanatory. Reywas92^Talk 01:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
• Support. PumpkinSky talk 23:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Comment no alt text for the images? Also, this link has a more up-to-date top 20 of "most visited", is it better than the 2008 PDF source? The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

That link only has numbers through August 2009, but the numbers are roughly the same. Reywas92^Talk 01:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

List of computer criminals

Hacker Adrian Lamo (left) with contemporaries Kevin Mitnick (center) and Kevin Poulsen

Computer criminals are people who are guilty of computer crimes such as breaking into computers or computer networks. Computer crime can be broadly defined as criminal activity involving information technology infrastructure, including illegal access, illegal interception, data interference, systems interference, misuse of devices, forgery and electronic fraud. In the infancy of the hacker subculture and the computer underground, criminal convictions were rare because there was an informal code of ethics that was followed by white hat hackers. Convictions of computer crimes began as early as 1983 with the case of The 414s from the 414 area code in Milwaukee. In that case, six teenagers broke into a number of high-profile computer systems, including Los Alamos National Laboratory, Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center and Security Pacific Bank. On May 1, 1983, one of the 414s, Gerald Wondra, was sentenced to two years of probation. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 21:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose I'm not comfortable about this one going on the main page. Unlike the Hepatitis C list, I don't see what purpose this would serve that would outweigh BLP concerns. Legally, we probably can put this on the main page (semi protection would be necessary of course), but I don't think that alone is a strong enough justification. —WFC— 21:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

This is the only featured list on Wikipedia related to computing; that field of study will be wholly absent from TFL if we do not include this list. Neelix (talk) 22:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect. —WFC— 19:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

• Support I don't think there is any BLP concern as long as everyone listed is convicted of the crime.—Chris!_c/t 02:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
  • Legally, yes. Morally, that would be a disgusting view to take, if not backed up by an encyclopaedic rationale for putting this on the main page. —WFC— 19:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
    • Perhaps I see things differently. :)—Chris!_c/t 03:10, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
      • Why would this be morally disgusting? Neelix (talk) 20:01, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

List of calypso-like genres

Harry Belafonte, a Jamaican-American pop-calypso singer

The Caribbean music area is home to a number of music genres that share certain characteristics that are often compared to the calypso music of Trinidad, and can be considered calypso-like. Some of these genres are competitive and are performed at Carnival or other celebrations, and many are improvised. Calypso and Jamaican mento are the most well-studied of the calypso-like genres, and are known to have evolved in a parallel and mutually interrelated fashion; elements of calypso came to be used in mento, and vice versa, while their origins lay in the Afro-Caribbean culture, each uniquely characterized by influences from the Orisha and Spiritual Baptist religions of Trinidad and the Kumina spiritual tradition of Jamaica. During the 1950s, pop singers like Harry Belafonte were well-known in the United States, though many, like Belafonte, were not Trinidadian. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 02:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

List of county courts in England and Wales

The sign at Pontypridd County Court

The system of county courts in England and Wales dates back to the County Courts Act 1846. England and Wales (with the exception of the City of London, which was outside the scope of the Act) were divided into 60 circuits, with a total of 491 county courts within these circuits. The then Lord Chancellor, Lord Cottenham, wanted everyone to be within seven miles of a court, and the final scheme came close to that aim. Few permanent courts were needed initially, given the infrequency of court hearings at that time, and temporary accommodation such as a town hall would often be used where there was no existing courthouse for use. There are now 216 county courts, although the government plans to close about 50 courts for financial reasons. The judicial business of the county courts is predominantly carried out by circuit judges and district judges. (Full list...)

Nominating as primary author, although as I've already had a TFL this is very low priority. Bencherlite^Talk 10:57, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

List of voice actors in the Grand Theft Auto series

Samuel L. Jackson voiced Officer Frank Tenpenny, the main antagonist of GTA: San Andreas

Grand Theft Auto is a video game series. Neither the original Grand Theft Auto nor Grand Theft Auto 2 featured any voice actors credited to specific roles. The first game in the series to do so was Grand Theft Auto III which, despite a limited budget and the series' low profile at the time, featured several notable actors from film and television. The next game, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, featured more movie actors, including Ray Liotta as the player character. Although the following title, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, also featured many notable movie actors, such as Samuel L. Jackson (pictured), Peter Fonda and James Woods, it had been decided that the use of such actors should be reduced, particularly for leading roles. From Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories through to Grand Theft Auto IV, the series has continued using lesser-known actors to voice main characters. Some games also feature celebrities portraying themselves, such as Lazlow Jones, Phil Collins, Ricky Gervais and Katt Williams. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Timeline of prehistoric Scotland

The ruins of Dun Carloway Iron Age broch

Prehistory in Scotland ends with the arrival of the Romans in southern Scotland in the 1st century AD and the beginning of written records. The first indications of humans in Scotland occur only after the ice retreated in the 11th millennium BC and the current Flandrian interglacial began. Initially, sea levels were lower than at present due to the large volume of ice that remained; the Orkney archipelago and many of the Inner Hebridean islands were attached to the mainland, as was the present-day island of Great Britain to Continental Europe. Many of the archaeological sites are located in the Highlands and Islands, possibly because of the relatively sparse modern populations and consequent lack of disturbance. Differentiating the various periods of human history involved is a complex task. The Paleolithic lasted until the retreat of the ice, the Mesolithic until the adoption of farming and the Neolithic until metalworking commenced. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 00:00, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Comments': Very interesting and well written article (I didn't know there was an "International Peat Society"). Main issue are the dead external links and possibly the "reliability" of some sources.

• Starts: "This timeline of prehistoric Scotland is..."

I'm aware of the exception allowed for lists re emboldening titles but in this case, what to do? The article isn't Prehistoric Scotland and pretending it is seems odd. "This is a chronologically ordered list of important archaeological sites in Scotland and of major events affecting Scotland's human inhabitants and culture during the prehistoric period."?

Assuming that the reader knows what a timeline is (="pretending that it is Prehistoric Scotland") would be fine with me, but if no other reviewer has an issue with it, it can stay as it is. bamse (talk) 10:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

OK - and I would be less wary of changing it had there not been an extensive discussion about the wording at the FLC.

• Images need ALT text.

Done

• Many dead external links.

Done, I hope

• Too many paragraphs in lead.

Don't understand the problem - and see next item.

Personally I don't have a problem with it, but AFAIK, there is a limit of 4 paragraphs per MOS. Could be easily fixed by merging two paragraphs.

bamse (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok and done.

• If meaningful, the "Paleolithic" section could get a short intro like the other sections.

Not very meaningful in the current structure, although I suppose I could pull something from the lead.... Done.

• Some empty space due to floating elements (tables, images, infobox) on my screen.

Can't replicate this - please make suggestions.

On my smallish screen there is lost of space after "Key to predominant "Type":" (due to the long and narrow History of Scotland infobox) and also space to the right of the Bronze and Iron Ages table (due to the right-aligned image above it). I understand that it is very hard to impossible to make it look good on any screen (resolution), so unless you have a good idea on how to improve the layout, it is not essential. bamse (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I see the History of Scotland infobox problem - it occurs between a narrow and wide width on my screen. Tried a fix but it didn't work. I can't replicate the Bronze and Iron Ages issues. Must dash.

• No need to repeat "BC" in both the table heading and in table cells.

Done

• No need to have the "Paleolithic" table sortable.

True - but it is not costing anything to have it there for the happy day when more finds appear.

• Sorting of the "Date" columns is broken.

Fixed one table - can't replicate problems in others.

• Not sure whether sorting of the "Type" column makes sense, since there is sometimes more than one type for an archaeological site. I suggest to order these multi-types alphabetically. (Currently it seems random, e.g. "(S,O)" and "(O,S)").

Alphabetised, but left the sort function. I agree it is not perfect but it may be useful anyway.

OK as for the tables. Any reason you sort "F-O-M" instead of "F-M-O" in the key? bamse (talk) 10:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops - fixed.

• The "Mesolithic" intro, details of the Applecross and of the older Islay site read as if they were written before the Paleolithic find. Possibly needs to be updated.

Clarified

I still have the same issue with the Mesolithic intro. Why write about the first human settlement in the mesolithic section if humans already settled in the Paleolithic? Suggest to move that part to the Paleolithic section intro. bamse (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Understood - the whole Paleolithic section was a later introduction hence the confusion. Now hopefully fixed.

• What are the two dates for Applecross? Add a footnote.

Done

• The Inner Sound image and the Kinloch image could get a caption that connects better with the topic of the article.

One replaced, one fixed.

• Table rows should stand on their own, so terms should be wikilinked in each row (e.g. "Sand" in the mesolithic Skye site, "henge" in the Cairnpapple Hill site,...).

I have linked henge but I don't understand the generality.

Unlike for prose, where you only link the first occurrence of a word, in tables you should link all occurences of the word (unless the same word appears twice or more times in a table row in which case, you'd only link the first occurrence in that row). This makes especially sense with sortable tables, where the order of rows changes. bamse (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Can you direct me to the relevant MOS section?

Sorry, I guess you are right. There is WP:REPEATLINK, but it says that "tables" ("not table rows") should stand on their own. bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• The "Kelso" site is only mentioned in prose, but not in a table. Why?

It is just another example of the genre - similarly only the key examples of henges or brochs etc are in the tables. It could be changed to simply refer to a more general "two other examples" or similar.

• "The last two items on the list..." is tricky, since the order can change due to sorting. Those items should be referred to by name.

Done

• Should animal names ("Lynx, Brown Bear, Arctic Fox and Reindeer.") be capitalized?

They can be and it is useful when there is more than one taxonomic group involved - see MOS:CAPS

• Some numbers above 1000 need comma.

I have only added commas to dates older than 9999 as doing it for four digit numbers looked like clutter to me.

OK. But I believe simple dashes should become en-dash when you have an interval of time ("7700-7500", etc.) bamse (talk) 23:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Fixed as far as I can see.

It is not about adding spaces, you should replace "-" -> "–". bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

According to MOS:NDASH "The en dash in a range is always unspaced, except when the endpoints of the range already include at least one space: 23 July 1790 – 1 December 1791, not 23 July 1790–1 December 1791".

Yes, yes, unspaced, but you need to replace hyphen (-) with en-dash (–) in your ranges. bamse (talk) 10:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Ah - you are right. I always thought they were the same thing, but now I see them together (as opposed to compared to an mdash) I see the difference! I am curious as to why we would choose to use a character that isn't on a keyboard in preference to one that is, but that's another matter. Fixed. Ben MacDui 12:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

• Publishers in references could be wikilinked.

Hopefully done

I wikilinked those in the "General references" section and many more. Publishers still need some work, e.g. "tomboftheeagles.co.uk" is the name of the website (which is irrelevant here), but not the publisher. Similarly for "Orkneyjar", "archaeology.co.uk", "biggararchaeology.org.uk", "Undiscoveredscotland", "historyscotland.com/Department of Archaeology", "shetland-heritage.co.uk" (and any other of that type). All of these should be replaced with the names of the publishers. bamse (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I have never come across such a request before - I don't understand who you think the publisher for tomboftheeagles.co.uk would be?

Quote from {{Cite web}}: "Commonly, this is a government agency, educational institution, or business. For many websites, the author and publisher are the same, and only one needs to be included in the citation; prefer publisher for organizations, author (or first/last) for individuals. Please note that publisher is not the name of the website; that is the work, except in cases where the business name is identical to the site name." That being said, I don't know who the publisher for that site is. Maybe "Ronnie Simison" or "Tomb of the Eagles" (if there exists such a business/institution). bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully done. Ben MacDui 18:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

• Is "Aileen Campbell MSP" a RS?

Dead and gone anyway.

• Is Orkneyjar a RS?

See below

The website states: Orkneyjar is a privately-run, non-profit website, created and maintained by Orcadian, Sigurd Towrie. To me this is alone is not enough unless Sigurd Towrie could be associated with archaeology/history somehow. Nothing against local knowledge, but for an article on such a topic, some more credentials are necessary in my opinion. Also, I think that whether the information on the site are correct or not (as discussed below) does not matter for assessment on whether it is RS or not. bamse (talk) 17:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

It can be difficult to find information about some of the most recent finds from purely academic sources. Its not that I can't find them now in most cases, but that I don't agree with your assessment. We have innumerable lists of the "in popular culture" variety that don't provide any academic sources at all - what is the difference?

I am not an expert on RS issues and would like to pass this decisions to those who know more about it. As for the difference, as far as I understand, reliability should be assessed based on the source's author/publisher and the wikipedia article in question. IMHO Orkneyjar could well be a RS for a wikipedia article on a local everyday topic. bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• Is Undiscoveredscotland a RS?

In my view, certainly.

Could you direct me to a page that says who's behind that page? I could not find any info on that. bamse (talk) 12:15, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

No idea. I consider them to be reliable based on my experience of the quality of the information they provide. In some way they are more useful than the Gazetteer for Scotland. Compare Lochboisdale (Gazetteer) with US to take a random example.

As mentioned above (under Orkneyjar), I don't think that "quality of information" should be taken as the only criteriorn for RS assessment. As with Orkneyjar, I'd like to pass the decision on to the RS experts. bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

• Is/was Yorkshirehistory a RS?

Dead and gone anyway.

• Is Iknow Scotland a RS?

Dead and gone anyway.

• Is Stonepages a RS?

Superfluous and removed.

• Is Megalithic a RS?

Arguably - but replaced with RCAHMS.

bamse (talk) 19:05, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I am not an expert on what is and what is not an RS, but IMHO Orkneyjar should be treated with extreme caution. I found it a few years ago, and can remember reading some rather eyebrow-raising opinions being expressed by the author. Certainly not an academic product. I do not find this page remotely reassuring. However, I would like further advice from WP:RS whizzkids. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:18, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I find it very useful for local knowledge and whilst it may not be an academic source I have not generally found it wanting. I would avoid anything that looked like OR produced there but in my experience they are a good and early resource. Ben MacDui 13:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Some initial replies above. To be continued... Ben MacDui 12:32, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I have a few queries but all are now addressed. Ben MacDui 14:25, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your fixes and replies. I stroke some and replied to others above. bamse (talk) 17:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Likewise. Further replies and queries added. Ben MacDui 18:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Me too. bamse (talk) 23:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

List of sects in the Latter Day Saint movement

Brigham Young, prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Though a few minuscule factions broke with Joseph Smith, Jr.'s Latter Day Saint movement during his lifetime, he retained the allegiance of the vast majority of Latter Day Saints until his murder in June 1844. Following Smith's death, his movement experienced a profound leadership crisis which led to a schism within his church. The largest group, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, followed Brigham Young (pictured), settling in what would become the Utah Territory. The second-largest faction, the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, coalesced around Joseph Smith III, eldest son of Joseph Smith, Jr. The term Mormonism is often used as a collective description of the Latter Day Saint movement and especially of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Nonetheless, many other Latter Day Saint sects are opposed to the use of this term, as they consider it to be derogatory and connected to the polygamy once practiced by the Utah church. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 07:01, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

List of universities in Bangladesh

Curzon Hall, University of Dhaka

Universities in Bangladesh are mainly categorized into three different types: public, private, and international. The University of Dhaka, established in 1921, is the oldest university of the country. Bangladeshi universities are affiliated with the University Grants Commission, a commission created according to the Presidential Order of the Government of the People's Republic of Bangladesh. It is notable that, out of the 6 divisions of Bangladesh, Dhaka Division houses 58 of the country's 87 universities, 52 of which are in Dhaka, the capital city. Most universities focus on general studies, mixing together such areas of study as business, engineering and technology. Seven universities have specialized curricula. Two of these are focused on Islamic studies, two on agricultural science, one on healthcare science, one on veterinary medicine, and one on women's studies. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 20:28, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Timeline of chemistry

Geber is considered by some to be the "father of chemistry".

The history of chemistry in its modern form arguably began with the English scientist Robert Boyle, though its roots can be traced back to the earliest recorded history. Early ideas that later became incorporated into the modern science of chemistry come from two main sources. Natural philosophers, such as Aristotle and Democritus, used deductive reasoning in an attempt to explain the behavior of the world around them. Alchemists, such as Geber (pictured) and Rhazes, were people who used experimental techniques in an attempt to extend the life or perform material conversions, such as turning base metals into gold. In the 17th century, a synthesis of the ideas of these two disciplines led to the development of a process of thinking known as the scientific method, whereby the modern science of chemistry was born. Chemistry is known as "the central science" because many events considered central to our modern understanding of chemistry are also considered key discoveries in other scientific and technological fields. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 17:05, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

• Support Lovely list and huge encylopaedic value. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:48, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Aurealis Award for best young-adult novel

Garth Nix has been a finalist on four occasions, winning in 1995 and 2003.

The Aurealis Awards are presented annually by the Australia-based Chimaera Publications and SpecFaction NSW to published works. Since their creation in 1995, awards have been given in various categories of speculative fiction. The continued sponsorship by publishers such as HarperCollins and Orbit has identified the awards as an honour to be taken seriously. The results are decided by a panel of judges from a list of submitted nominees; the long-list of nominees is reduced to a short-list of finalists. Ties can occur if the panel decides both entries show equal merit, however they are encouraged to choose a single winner. Of the 20 winners in the best young-adult novel category, three people have won the award twice: Isobelle Carmody, Garth Nix (pictured) and Scott Westerfeld. Westerfeld holds the record for most nominations with seven, and Rory Barnes has the most nominations without winning, having been a losing finalist five times. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 20:30, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments –

• Not wild about the "to be taken seriously" bit—in the blurb or the lead of the list. Sounds a bit informal to be.
• Tables could use row and column scopes per WP:ACCESS and more recent FLs.
• Ref 5 appears to have regular and archived links to a WebCite page, with no link to the original ABC broadcast. Not the biggest deal, but it would be better to have a link to the original in some form, even if it's dead (in which case WebCite would go out in front of the ref). Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration

Amundsen's party, first to the South Pole in December 1911, makes an observation.

Amundsen's party, first to the South Pole in December 1911, makes an observation.

The Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration is an era which extended from the end of the 19th century to the early 1920s. During this 25-year period, the Antarctic continent became the focus of an international effort which resulted in intensive scientific and geographical exploration, sixteen major expeditions being launched from eight different countries. The common factor in these expeditions was the limited nature of the resources available to them before advances in transport and communication technologies revolutionised the work of exploration. Each expedition became a feat of endurance that tested its personnel to physical and mental limits, and sometimes beyond. During the course of these expeditions, the geographical and magnetic poles were both reached. The achievement of being first to the geographical South Pole was a primary object in some expeditions and was the sole rationale for Roald Amundsen's venture (pictured). The expeditions also generated large quantities of scientific data and specimens across a wide range of scientific disciplines, the examination and analysis of which would keep the world's scientific communities busy for decades. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 22:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Looks very good and almost ready for TFL.

• Images need ALT-text.
  • I added ALT-text to all images. bamse (talk) 21:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
• Starts: "The Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration describes...."
  • Altered "describes" to "defines" Brianboulton (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I wasn't clear. "Describes" was fine with me. The issue I was trying to point out is that article titles are not boldfaced anymore and the lead of an article "X" should not start "X is..." (or variants thereof). Have a look at some recently promoted FLs if you need inspiration. bamse (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Also the TFL blurb needs to be adapted accordingly. bamse (talk) 00:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
      • The use of boldface here is fine. WP:BOLDTITLE advises against bolding when title is descriptive, but that isn't really the case here. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
        • Thanks, didn't know that. What about the other issue here? After reading WP:LEAD it seems that it only refers to "Lists of X". What about lists that don't have "List" in the title? bamse (talk) 05:18, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
• Caption in lead image could be cropped.
  • Done. Brianboulton (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
    • Sorry, again a misunderstanding. I meant to crop out the caption from the scan ("TAKING AN OBSERVATION AT THE POLE.").
• Tables could be made sortable.
  • I've done this for the second table. The main table has been rejigged by another editor and I don't know how to include the "sortable" instruction
    • Sorting breaks the layout of the table because of the "rowspans". The only way around is AFAIK to remove the rowspans (i.e. to write "Discovery Expedition" twice, "Terra Nova Expedition" six times, etc; and similarly for the rowspans in the refs column). bamse (talk) 00:12, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
      • I made the first table sortable and added "scope" per WP:ACCESS. I also made the second table sortable, but put it in my sandbox because you might prefer beauty (due to rowspan) over sortability. Feel free to copy from the sandbox and let me know if something does not sort as expected. bamse (talk) 06:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
• Is Coolantarctica a RS? (Appears to be written by an amateur with a degree in Zoology.)
  • He is in fact a recognised writer on polar exploration history. However, to save argument I have replaced all the expedition references to this source, leaving just the date references at the beginning and end. Brianboulton (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
• Is South-Pole a RS? (Appears to be by an amateur with interest in stamp collecting.)
  • The reliability of this source largely comes from its being approved by the Scott Polar Research Institute. SPRI's "Index to Antarctic Expeditions" provides links to what it calls "the best summaries" of expeditions, and every link is to a South.pole.com sub-page. See SPRI links here. Brianboulton (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
• Publishers could be wikilinked in the References/Sources sections.
  • I don't think this is particularly important Brianboulton (talk) 23:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

bamse (talk) 10:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

As for the RS issues, these were mentioned in the article's FLC already and there are comments by Brianboulton regarding these two websites. I don't understand his PS (But see comments under Sources review, below) though. As far as I can see the "sources review" only checked accessibility of the sites (non-broken links). bamse (talk) 12:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed this list back in the day. The "sources review" refers to my comments on source reliability (see the capped comments). Dabomb87 (talk) 21:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops, I missed the capped comments. Based on the sources review in the FLC, I don't have an issue with RS anymore. bamse (talk) 23:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Municipalities of Lithuania

Coat of arms of Kaunas city municipality

Lithuania is divided into three layers of administrative division. The first-level division consists of 10 counties. These are sub-divided into 60 municipalities, which, in turn, are further sub-divided into over 500 smaller groups, known as elderships. At the end of its tenure as a Soviet Socialist Republic, Lithuania's administrative division consisted of 44 regions, 12 cities, 80 towns, 19 settlements, and 426 rural districts. The reform of this system was an immediate concern. The Constitution of Lithuania, ratified in 1992, delegated the power of establishing future administrative units to the Lithuanian Parliament. The current system of a set of municipalities under 10 counties was codified by 1995. Several changes were made in 2000, resulting in 60 municipalities. Municipal councilors are directly elected every four years. The councilors then elect the municipality's mayor. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 17:32, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Looks good and needs only little work to make it ready.

• Images need ALT text.
• AFAIK, Lithuania has a long history which is not reflected in the lead that only mentions the soviet past. Pre-Soviet history could be shortly mentioned since otherwise it appears as if there was no Lithuania before 1990.
• "The reform of this system was an immediate concern." To whom?
• I have difficulties reading the text on the map for dark background colors. Could those be lightened a bit?
• Not essential, but IMHO the map would look better if all the "County" in the legend were removed or replaced with a single legend-header "Counties".
• Do the same for the table, i.e. remove the "county" in the main part and only leave it in the header.
• I'd call the "List" section "Municipalities" or something similar.
• The term "Administrative center" could be defined somewhere.
• Personally I don't care, but AFAIK, units should also be provided in imperial units.
• The general reference needs at least accessdate and publisher information.
• What is the first column for?

bamse (talk) 00:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Charlie Chaplin filmography

Charlie Chaplin in his "Tramp" persona

Charlie Chaplin was a British film actor, comedian, director, producer, writer, musician and music composer whose work in motion pictures spanned from 1914 until 1967. During his early years in film, he became established as a worldwide cinematic idol renowned for his tramp persona (pictured). In 1918, Chaplin began producing his own films, initially releasing them through First National and then through United Artists, a corporation he co-founded with Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, and D. W. Griffith. During his lifetime, Chaplin received three awards from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. At the 1st Academy Awards ceremony, held on May 16, 1929, he won an honorary award for writing, directing, producing, and acting in The Circus. Chaplin also received Academy Award nominations in 1940 for Best Actor and Best Original Screenplay for The Great Dictator and in 1947 for his screenplay of Monsieur Verdoux. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 18:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Braathens destinations

A Braathens Boeing 737-500 at Oslo Airport, Gardermoen, Braathens' Norwegian hub from 1998 to 2004

Braathens was a Norwegian scheduled and charter airline that operated from 1946 to 2004. The airline used 53 airports serving 50 destinations, 23 of which were in Norway and 6 in Sweden. Braathens served numerous destinations as both a regular and an ad-hoc charter airline. Braathens' main hubs were Oslo Airport, Fornebu, Oslo Airport, Gardermoen and Stockholm-Arlanda Airport. The main technical base was at Stavanger Airport, Sola. The destinations in Asia were served from 1949 to 1954. From 1952, Braathens became a domestic airline, and did not have international scheduled services again from 1954 to 1987, except during part of 1960. From 1994, the airline market was deregulated and Braathens was free to operate domestically and within the European Economic Area. In 1997, it bought Transwede and started domestic services in Sweden, but these were terminated in 1999. The company merged with the Norwegian division of Scandinavian Airlines System in 2004 to create SAS Braathens. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 20:12, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

List of X-Men video games

An X-Men booth at the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo, promoting X-Men: The Official Game

Beginning in 1989, the X-Men have appeared in video games for home consoles, handheld game consoles, arcades, and personal computers. The first games were released on 8-bit home platforms. Most X-Men video games, especially those released in the 2000s, were released on several platforms. Several companies have developed entries in the franchise, including Paragon Software, Software Creations, Konami, and Capcom. The titles are action games that pit the X-Men against Marvel supervillains, typically taking the form of beat 'em up and fighting games. X-Men characters also frequently appear in Marvel games that focus on several of its comic book franchises, including Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance. The franchise holds several Guinness World Records, including most games based on a superhero group, first tag-team fighting game, first superhero first-person shooter, and most number of simultaneous players on an arcade game. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 22:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Italian orders of knighthood

Letters patent of a Knight of Vittorio Veneto, shown with badge and miniature

There are five orders of knighthood awarded in recognition of service to the Italian Republic. The former Royal House of Savoy also continue to award knighthoods in three orders of chivalry previously recognised by the Kingdom of Italy. The degrees of knighthood, not all of which apply to all orders, are Knight, Officer, Commander, Grand Officer, Knight Grand Cross and Knight Grand Cross with cordon. Italian citizens may not use in the territory of the Republic honours or distinctions conferred on them by non-national orders or foreign states, unless authorised by decree of the President of the Council of Ministers. The use of awards of the Holy See, including the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre, is subject to permission, while the use of those of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta is unregulated. The Order of Merit of the Italian Republic effectively replaced as national orders the Supreme Order of the Most Holy Annunciation, the Order of Saints Maurice and Lazarus and the Order of the Crown of Italy. (Full list...)

Neelix (talk) 15:02, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Stanley Cup champions

List of Stanley Cup champions

The Stanley Cup is an ice hockey club trophy, awarded annually to the National Hockey League (NHL) playoffs champion at the conclusion of the Stanley Cup Finals. It was donated by former Governor General of Canada Lord Stanley of Preston in 1892, and is the oldest professional sports trophy in North America. Since the 1914–15 season, the trophy has been won a combined 95 times by 17 active NHL teams and five defunct teams. Prior to that, the challenge cup was held by nine different teams. The Montreal Canadiens have won the Stanley Cup 24 times and made the finals an additional nine times. There were two years when the Stanley Cup was not awarded: 1919, because of a Spanish flu epidemic, and 2005, because of the NHL lockout. (Full list...)

-- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Comments - blurb needs bold link to the article itself. Tables could use row and col scopes for accessibility. Images could use alt text. Not sure what bold text means in the Appearances table, we don't normally use just bold to denote something, not good for ACCESS, I seem to recall italics was okay though. Fix the mixed date format in the references. Otherwise, all good. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The Simpsons (season 7)

Bill Oakley

The Simpsons' seventh season originally aired on the Fox network between September 17, 1995 and May 19, 1996. The show runners for the seventh production season were Bill Oakley (pictured) and Josh Weinstein who would executive produce 21 episodes this season. David Mirkin executive produced the remaining four, including two hold overs that were produced for the previous season. The season started off with the heavily publicized "Who Shot Mr. Burns? (Part Two)", which was the resolution to a cliffhanger, and finished with "Summer of 4 Ft. 2". The seventh season was nominated for two Primetime Emmy Awards, including Outstanding Animated Program and won an Annie Award for Best Animated Television Program. The DVD box set was released in Region 1 December 13, 2005, Region 2 January 30, 2006 and Region 4 on March 22, 2006. (Full list...)

-- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 01:35, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I thought the blurb would look better with an image, so I added one of Bill Oakley. Neelix (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
• There are a few deadlinks to sort out. I haven't given this proper scrutiny, so don't take this as a support just yet, but at a glance this is of a good standard. Hopefully we can get this ready in time for 26 September: if I've done my conversions right, TFL for that day would go up at exactly the same time that the season 23 premiere goes on air in the East Coast, and a couple of hours in advance of the Pacific premiere. —WFC— TFL notices 21:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

2006 boys high school basketball All-Americans

Greg Oden was the first 2006 high school boys basketball All-American drafted into the National Basketball Association.

An All-American team is an honorary sports team that is generally composed of the best amateur players of a specific season for each team position—who in turn are given the honorific "All-America" and typically referred to as "All-American athletes", or simply "All-Americans". The term is used in U.S. team sports to refer to players who are selected by members of the national media. Both the McDonald's All-American team selection and the Jordan Brand All-American team selection have associated high school basketball all-star games held in conjunction with them, in which the players are divided into two teams to compete in an exhibition game. Both the Parade and USA Today lists include underclassmen. 47 2006 boys high school basketball All-Americans were selected to major honorary All-American teams. The 2006 class of McDonald's All-Americans is regarded as the best class of the decade, with approximately 22 of the 24 expected to make it to the National Basketball Association. (Full list...)

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Boston Reds (1890–1891) all-time roster

King Kelly, player-manager for the 1890 Boston Reds Players' League champions

The Boston Reds were a Major League Baseball franchise that played one season in the Players' League (PL) in 1890, and one season in the American Association (AA) in 1891. In each season, the Reds were their league's champion. The Reds were an instant success on the field and with the public. The team signed several top-level players, and they played in a larger, more modern ballpark than the Boston Beaneaters, the popular and well established cross-town rival. After the dissolution of the PL, the AA voted to allow the Reds into the new combined league. The Reds stayed intact by keeping several of their top players, and signed several other top-level players to fill the void of the departing players. When the 1891 season ended, the AA also folded, and the Reds were bought out by the surviving NL clubs. (Full list...)

Neonblak ^talk - 03:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Odonata species of Great Britain

Broad-bodied Chaser

The total number of species of Odonata recorded in Britain is 56, made up of 20 damselflies (suborder Zygoptera) and 36 dragonflies (suborder Anisoptera). Of these, 42 species (17 damselflies and 25 dragonflies) are resident breeders, and the remainder are either extinct species, or vagrants. Some of these rare species have not been seen since the 19th Century; however, the British Odonata list is also currently undergoing a period of unprecedented change, as new species are being discovered for the first time, some going on to become breeding species. (Full list...)

SP-KP (talk) 16:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

U.S. state reptiles

US states with a state reptile

Twenty-six U.S. states have named an official state reptile. As with other state symbols, states compare admirable aspects of the reptile and of the state, and schoolchildren often start the campaigns to name state reptiles. Oklahoma was the first state to name an official reptile, the collared lizard, in 1969. State reptiles remain less popular than state birds, flowers, trees, or mammals. Because of their cold-blooded nature, reptiles are more common in warmer climates, and nineteen of the twenty-six state reptiles represent southern states. A turtle was chosen by more than half of the states, and the most frequently chosen species was the painted turtle. Several state reptiles are threatened species. Although there is no U.S. national reptile, the timber rattlesnake (now West Virginia's state reptile) was an element in Revolutionary War flags and is still used in the U.S. Navy Jack. (Full list...)

Explanations. Condensed and hopefully made friendlier the lead from article. Should be close on characters and I used the single para format. I did tweak the image size just a tad, but "short and wide" images actually work better with text wrap and all that. I played with using the map as the image, but then went to picking one of the better animal pictures. I just think that our natural human instincts are more drawn to pictures of animals than maps. Collage is too detailed for small sizing so not using that. I did pimp several lists with links in the blurb, so "you people" can feel good about that. Feel free to play with photo or blurb.TCO (reviews needed) 20:18, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

List of Smithsonian museums

The Smithsonian Institution Building

The Smithsonian museums are the most widely visible part of the United States' Smithsonian Institution and consist of nineteen museums and galleries as well as the National Zoological Park. Eleven of these museums are located on the National Mall, while the remainder are located elsewhere in Washington D.C. as well as New York City and Chantilly, Virginia. The museums have roughly 137 million objects such as works of art, natural specimens, cultural artifacts, etc., in their collections, and are visited by over 25 million people every year. The birth of the Smithsonian Institution can be traced to the acceptance of James Smithson's legacy, willed to the United States in 1826. In 1838, this legacy, which totaled more than $500,000, was delivered to the US Mint and in 1846, the Smithsonian Institution was established. The Institution grew slowly until 1964 when Sidney Dillon Ripley became secretary. Ripley managed, over a twenty year period, to expand the institution by eight museums and upped admission from 10.8 million to 30 million people a year. The newest Smithsonian museum, the National Museum of African American History and Culture, is slated to open in 2015. (Full list...)

--Found5dollar (talk) 13:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:33, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

{{subst:rc|1=Comments: Looks good, just some minor comments/suggestions...

• ALT, dablinks and checklinks tests passed.
• "...most widely visible part..." could give issues with NPOV.

• I don't think it does as the museum buildings are the most numerous, situated in the most public spots, and the only part of the institution the general public is allowed in. Therefore that makes them the most viewed and the most entered of any other part of the Smithsonian.

• OK. bamse (talk) 11:46, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

• Suggest to reword "(works of art, natural specimens, cultural artifacts, etc.)" into "such as..." or something similar.

• fixed in both article and blurb.

• Is the zoo generally referred to as "museum" in sources? How about the galleries?

• they are referred to as the "Smithsonian museums and zoo". The zoo is always included in counts but is named separately. The galleries are included in the term "museum" in all the sources.

• Suggest to wikilink "state" in "The Smithsonian also holds close ties with 168 museums in 39 states..." to avoid misunderstandings for non-US readers.

• done

• Is there a more recent (than 2008) statistics on traveling exhibitions?

• no. i checked the source page and they have actually removed the figure. changed it to what the source now says.

• I don't understand the "No exhibitions" entry in the "Type of collection" column. Either it has a collection (which should then be mentioned by type) or not, in which case it should read "No collection", no?

• The building is under renovation (has been forever and probably will be for any reasonable amount of time) It was the first museum built for the Smithsonian but it currently sits empty with no exhibitions or collections put aside for it. It is mostly just used for inaugural balls and the like. One would assume that when the building is finally finished being renovated exhibits will be re-introduced, but nowhere can this information be found. Since there will likely be exhibits in the building at some point in the future, but we do not know what they will be I wrote "No Exhibitions."

• Makes sense. bamse (talk) 12:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

• Suggest to make the "Location" sort in such a way that all New York museums are together and all Washington museums are together.

• see next comment

Done--Found5dollar (talk) 21:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

• Entries in "Location" column use different formats, e.g.: "National Mall" (without city/state), "Penn Quarter, Washington, D.C." (neighborhood + state) and "Washington, D.C." (only state)

• The "national mall" format was added in during the featured list discussion as reviewers thought that adding "Washington DC" to that was unnecessarily bulky. As i do not know Washington DC that well i was adding the areas of the city to the museums where I could find a reference for it. Some I could not. Would it be better to just remove the area of the city form the ones I have sources for as I can not find the names of the sections the rest are located in? Once this is figured out i will resort the "Location" collumn.

• Call me ignorant, but I hadn't heard of the "National Mall" before (I knew of the concentration of monuments/museums there though); so I'd prefer to see "Washington D.C." next to it. As for the neighborhood, I don't see the problem of figuring it out. It is likely not a disputed fact and therefore does not need a super reliable source to it. bamse (talk) 11:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

• Done.--Found5dollar (talk) 21:36, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good. Possibly you want to swap "Chantilly" and "Virginia" for consistency with the other entries in that column. bamse (talk) 22:04, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

• I almost did that, but it is actually more in keeping to not do this with the rest of the locations as the majority start with "Washington, D.C." where "Washington" is the city and "District of Columbia" is the district, much in the way "Chantilly" is the city and "Virginia" is then the state.--Found5dollar (talk) 03:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• I see what you mean, but if you interpret "D.C" as a state, you are going "medium-large-small" when you write "Washington, D.C. Capitol Hill" etc., which to me would be more logically written as either "Capitol Hill Washington, D.C." (small-medium-large) or "D.C Washington Capitol Hill" (large-medium-small). Of course, if that's the way addresses are written in the US, feel free to ignore this comment. bamse (talk) 08:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• Hmmm... i see the issue you are talkign about now.... I defiantly think "medium" has to be fist so the page sorts best, then Large as places are usually written that way (ie. Chantilly, Virginia). Perhaps if I then place "small" on a second line either in a smaller font or in parenthesis it would make sense.--Found5dollar (talk) 13:18, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• You can have it sort any way you want with {{[[Template:sort}], so that should not be a problem. I leave it to you to decide what's best for that column. bamse (talk) 18:29, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• If possible wikilink publishers in references

• most of the publishers are the museums themselves that are wikilinked throughout the article... should I still link them in the references?

• In that case not. bamse (talk) 11:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

• "National Museum of American History" is overlinked in the caption of the satellite image

• done--Found5dollar (talk) 15:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

|sort}], so that should not be a problem. I leave it to you to decide what's best for that column. bamse (talk) 18:29, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

• If possible wikilink publishers in references

• most of the publishers are the museums themselves that are wikilinked throughout the article... should I still link them in the references?

• In that case not. bamse (talk) 11:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

• "National Museum of American History" is overlinked in the caption of the satellite image

• done--Found5dollar (talk) 15:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

]]}} Support bamse (talk) 18:29, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Manchester United F.C. players

Ryan Giggs has made more than 850 appearances for Manchester United. He has also scored in every season since the formation of the Premier League in 1992.

Since Manchester United Football Club played their first competitive match in October 1886, more than 800 players have made a competitive first-team appearance for the club, of whom almost 200 players have made at least 100 appearances (including substitute appearances). Manchester United's record appearance-maker is Ryan Giggs (pictured), who has made more than 850 appearances since his debut in 1991; he broke Bobby Charlton's previous appearance record in the 2008 UEFA Champions League Final. However, Charlton holds the record for the most starts, having started on all but two of his 758 appearances. He is also the club's top goalscorer with 249 goals in his 17 years with the club. Seven other players have made more than 500 appearances, including three members of the 1968 European Cup-winning team and three members of the 1999 Treble-winning team. Other than Charlton, only two players have scored more than 200 goals for the club. (Full list...)

  – HonorTheKing (talk) 13:51, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

• Note Perhaps to coincide with anniversary of Munich air disaster, 6 February.

My first TFL, so hope its writen well, the size is similar to "July 25" Hepatitis C list. if it needs fixing or such I will do so. And please note, In British English, clubs are referred to in the plural when named. Thank you.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 13:51, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I have made the blurb all one paragraph to be consistent with the other featured list blurbs and other main page blurbs in general. Neelix (talk) 15:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much :).
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

• I haven't looked at the list, as I intend to review some of the older submissions first. But I would tentatively highlight 6 February 2012 as a possible date to put this up, to coincide with the anniversary of the Munich air disaster. I'd also recommend moving the link a bit closer to the start of the blurb, if not at the very start. The hit counts on articles featured in last week's TFL strongly indicate that the first link will get the lions share of clicks. Donkey Kong got 9.9k hits, but the list linked shortly after it only got 3.8k, and it appears to have been a similar story with List of people with hepatitis C. —WFC— 03:47, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree that the weekend of 6 February 2012 would be a good time for it,

About the blurb, I have reworded the submission, do you think its ok, or maybe I should reword it more?, I have tried to think how to get it closer to the start, but as it lists only players with atleast 100 appearances I wasn't sure how to do it without breaking the necessary info, do you have any advice how should I rewrite it.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 00:23, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree that your rewording is probably as far as you could reasonably go. I've extended the bolded section from 100 appearances to have made at least 100 appearances, in the hope that this will mitigate any adverse effect from not being the first link. —WFC— 00:34, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I have also added a note about the date.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 00:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

List of Olympic records in athletics

Jamaican athlete Usain Bolt slowing down after winning the 2008 Olympic Games 100m final in a record-breaking time

The modern Summer Olympic Games have been held every four years since the first Games in 1896 and Olympic records are recognised by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) in each event. The athletics events, which take place at each Games, are divided into four groups: track events, field events, road events (such as walks and the marathon) and combined events (the heptathlon and the decathlon). Olympic records for each event have existed since the first Games, although some were later rescinded by the IOC. In 1988, Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson broke the Olympic and World record in the 100 metres, but was subsequently disqualified after it was discovered that he had used anabolic steroids to enhance his performance. His record was expunged and the gold medal was instead awarded to American Carl Lewis. The longest standing modern Olympic athletics record is Bob Beamon's achievement in the men's long jump at the 1968 Summer Olympics which stood for 23 years until Beamon's compatriot, Mike Powell, jumped further in the 1991 World Championships in Athletics in Tokyo. During the 2008 Games, ten men's and seven women's records were broken. (Full list...)

• Updated deadlinks, made it ACCESSible, hopefully up to scratch. Let me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Very nice, the first ref need date fixing, April9, 2009 --> April 9, 2009. and souldn't you replace "Image:" with "File:" ?.
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 17:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Those two are fixed, thanks for your interest. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:09, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I have linked the list in the blurb. Neelix (talk) 14:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

List of tallest structures in Tokyo

Skyscrapers of Shinjuku's Nishi-Shinjuku district in Tokyo

Tokyo is the most populated of Japan's 47 prefectures. In Tokyo, there are 44 buildings and structures that stand taller than 180 metres (591 ft). The tallest structure in the prefecture is Tokyo Sky Tree, a lattice tower that rises 634 metres (2,080 ft), which was completed in 2011. It also stands as the tallest structure in Japan, the tallest tower in the world and the 2nd-tallest freestanding structure in the world. The tallest building and third-tallest overall structure in Tokyo is the 248-metre-tall (814 ft) Midtown Tower, which was completed in 2007. The prefecture's second tallest building is the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building, which rises 48 stories and 243 metres (797 ft) in height. Overall, of the 25 tallest buildings and structures in Japan, 17 are in Tokyo. Skyscrapers are a relatively recent phenomenon in Japan. Due to aesthetic and engineering concerns, Japan's Building Standard Law set an absolute height limit of 31 metres until 1963, when the limit was abolished in favor of a Floor Area Ratio limit. (Full list...)

--Torsodog^Talk 17:50, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Interesting well written article. Needs only little work to make it ready for the main page.

• Some images need ALT text.
• One broken link
  • Fixed via archive.org
• Japanese titles in references need translations with "trans_title=".

• I added two translation (please check for correctness). With the only outstanding translation I am confused. The entry says: "Tsukishima No. 3, 4-chome Redevelopment", while the reference title is "月島一丁目３、４、５番" (wouldn't that be Tsukishima 1-chome, No. 3, 4, 5?) bamse (talk) 21:52, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

• Ref 9 is incorrectly marked as dead as far as I can see.
  • Whoops. I corrected that link the other day, but forgot to remove the tag.
• Is skyscraperpage.com a RS?
• Is skyscrapercity.com a RS?
  • I believe there is consensus that they are. I simply went off of what Project Skyscraper uses. I also just added refs from CTBUH though just for good measure though.
• There should be no visible url in the references. "Skyscraperpage.com", "Emporis.com", "Skyscraperpage.com" are names of the websites and not the publishers. All of these should be replaced with the names of the publishers.
  • I've changed "Emporis.com" to "Emporis" and "Skyscraperpage.com" to "Skyscraper Source Media".
• "Tokyo is divided into two sections: Western Tokyo and the special wards of Tokyo." Does this include the Izu and Ogasawara Islands?
  • It does not. Those islands are grouped into subprefectures, of which Tokyo has 4. Should we say something like "Mainland Tokyo" to avoid confusion?
    • Sounds like a good plan, but can Honshu be considered "mainland"? Not sure how this part is usually referred to. bamse (talk) 00:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
• What is the tallest building of the 1980s, 1960s...? Not in Tokyo?</>
  • It just so happens that the tallest buildings built in Tokyo in those decades are not tall enough to fall within the list.
    • I see. bamse (talk) 00:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
• "31th"->"31st"?
  • Oops, done.
• Use the same capitalization in the "Structure type" columns.
  • Done. Went with all lower case
• Is Tokyo Sky Tree still under construction?
  • It's topped out, but not finished just yet. Construction completion is scheduled for December.

bamse (talk) 15:48, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments! I believe I've address most. I had one follow question. Give me a bit to find a replacement ref for the dead link and give me even more minutes to write up alt text for all of the pics (that wasn't a requirement when this thing passed FLC way back when)! --Torsodog^Talk 05:17, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Sure, you have any time you need. no time limit for TFL AFAIK. I'll need some time to think about RS. bamse (talk) 00:55, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Skyscrapers lists CTBUH, emporis.com, skyscraperpage.com but also a wiki as "resources". Because of the latter I am not sure whether those are meant to be used as RS. That's why I asked at the project's talk page. bamse (talk) 11:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Scalziand replied there. CTBUH and Emporis are fine. The Skyscraperpage diagrams section is also fine. Not reliable are Skyscraperpage forums and Skyscrapercity. So, according to Scalziand, the skyscrapercity reference should be removed/replaced and the Skyscraperpage.com references should be checked whether they link to forums or to the diagrams section. bamse (talk) 17:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Skyscraperpage database section is also reliable per Scalziand. bamse (talk) 06:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

One more suggestion (not essential). The two images in the lead section both show Shinjuku. How about changing the second image (the one without Fuji-san) to show a different part of Tokyo. Maybe a wide angle view from Roppongi Hills including Midtown or a view of Shiodome (from Odaiba?), but not sure what would look best. bamse (talk) 11:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

List of highest paid Major League Baseball players

Alex Rodriguez is earning the highest salary in MLB in 2011 at $32,000,000. He also has the highest career earnings in MLB history.

The highest paid player in Major League Baseball (MLB) for the 2011 season is New York Yankees' third baseman Alex Rodriguez (pictured) with an annual salary of $32,000,000, nearly $6 million higher than the second-highest paid player, Vernon Wells. Rodriguez also has the highest career earnings in MLB history and has signed the two largest contracts in sports history. Unlike other American professional sports leagues, MLB does not have a hard salary cap, instead employing a luxury tax which applies to teams whose total payroll exceeds certain set thresholds for a given season. Free agency did not exist in MLB prior to the end of the reserve clause in the 1970s, resulting in significantly lower salaries before that time. For example Babe Ruth, widely regarded as one of the greatest baseball players ever, earned an estimated $910,696 ($20,238,671 inflation-adjusted from 1935 dollars) over his entire playing career. When asked in 1929 whether he thought he should earn more than President Herbert Hoover Ruth famously remarked "Why not, I had a better year than he did." (Full list...)

• Forgot to sign. Staxringold _talk^contribs 18:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)