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:'''Oppose''' - Literally one sentence in the article about the decision. Doesn't appear to be that notable either. [[User:PrecariousWorlds|PrecariousWorlds]] ([[User talk:PrecariousWorlds|talk]]) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' - Literally one sentence in the article about the decision. Doesn't appear to be that notable either. [[User:PrecariousWorlds|PrecariousWorlds]] ([[User talk:PrecariousWorlds|talk]]) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' there is one sentence about the decision ([[User talk: 3OpenEyes|3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!]]) | (PS: Have a good day) 14:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)


==== RD: Akebono Tarō ====
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Truong My Lan

Article: Trương Mỹ Lan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Truong My Lan is sentenced to death for a massive banking fraud in Vietnam. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN
Credits:

Article updated

"...the largest corruption scandal in Southeast Asia's history." Andrew🐉(talk) 12:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Literally one sentence in the article about the decision. Doesn't appear to be that notable either. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there is one sentence about the decision (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 14:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Akebono Tarō

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Article: Akebono Tarō (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Akebono Tarō, the first non-Japanese-born wrestler ever to reach yokozuna, the highest rank in sumo, dies at age 54. (Post)
News source(s): SCMP NYT Independent
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Support, article is a well-written overview of a sumo career. 1stViscountessNivlac (talk) 11:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, article does have one orange tag but is in a section, and seems written well enough (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 11:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turing Award

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Article: Avi Wigderson (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Avi Wigderson wins the Turing Award for the study of randomness in computation and decades of intellectual leadership in theoretical computer science. (Post)
News source(s): Association for Computing Machinery, Quanta Magazine, Institute for Advanced Study
Credits:
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

2A02:14F:1F2:FF04:D271:E46A:12E9:68D1 (talk) 14:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose there is no section dedicated to his research and its academic review. The article is a bit small for a biography to be blurbed. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Trina Robbins

Article: Trina Robbins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 06:22, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wait Although the article is generally well-sourced, the Career section needs some improvement.--MtPenguinMonster (talk) 12:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: R. M. Veerappan

Article: R. M. Veerappan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Politician and Film Maker needs references Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose there are four orange tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose too many issues with article (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 10:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change ruling in Switzerland

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Article: Verein KlimaSeniorinnen Schweiz v. Switzerland (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The European Court of Human Rights rules that climate change prevention is a human right. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

*Oppose on quality As mentioned previously, article is a very short stub. WOuld need to be greatly expanded on before being considered.
Support, thank you for expanding! ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜) 20:02, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The German article is about the plaintiffs, not the lawsuit. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is titled as if the scope were to be the plaintiffs, but it has more on the case and reactions to it than the organisation. Schwede66 23:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance, oppose on quality. Article needs very substantial work. AusLondonder (talk) 22:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • EXPANDED I have spent the last hour to expand it out, though I'm not diving into reaction kudzu. --Masem (t) 01:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment. Did the reacts for You based on de.wiki. Myself I abstain from !voting but will take this opportunity to congratulate You, @User:Masem on your fine work on this and any other issues on ITNC. Kudoz! --Ouro (blah blah) 05:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability but the article still needs improvement before it can be posted, particularly in the reactions section. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A very significant event and even though the article is bit short but it is good enough. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The latest climate news is that March was the hottest in recent times and that sea temperatures set a new record. Switzerland is not a significant scapegoat in this and the ECHR has no enforcement powers even if it was. To see who's actually responsible, see the Carbon Majors report which has just been published. China's coal industry heads the list with 25% of global emissions (2016-2022). Andrew🐉(talk) 07:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ECHR has required the Swiss gov't efforts to rectrify the emissions target failure with oversight by govt representatives to the ECHR from other countries. Yes, its not like they put a fine (outside of legal costs) on Switzerland, but they are forcing the country to establish new laws and likely new sources of funding within a reasonable time to meet overall climate change goals. (This isn't about climate change per se but the human rights that are lost if climate change is not adequetly met, that's the story here). — Masem (t) 12:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I think the blurb is imprecise and would need revision. This was a very specific ruling finding Switzerland in violation of the European Convention on Human Rights (Article 8 and 6 § 1). It essentially found that Switzerland had positive obligations to act and has not effectively done so, thus Switzerland has committed a human rights violation. The court found that Switzerland has failed to reduce its GHG emissions fast enough to meet its own targets (set by law). It found that Swiss domestic courts should provide an adequate venue to abide by the Convention. The court also found that 4 individuals represented as plantiffs did not actually fulfil the victim-status criteria under Article 34 of the Convention and declared their complaints inadmissible. It is worth noting at the same time they decided on Verein KlimaSeniorinnen Schweiz, they threw out (made inadmissible) two other climate-change cases at the same time (Carême v. France and Duarte Agostinho and Others v. Portugal and 32 Others). Find the court documents here.
Of course this ruling can have large implications, especially for member states of the Council of Europe/convention signatories. The ECHR has never directly ruled on a "climate-change" before (although they have had environmental protection cases). This does pave the way for future cases (see Greenpeace Nordic and Others v. Norway) not only in the ECHR, but other venues as well. It is clearly important ruling, but I would ask other editors to assess if the court actually found that climate-change prevention is a human right. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 07:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As I put in the article, part of the reason Switzerland failed is they were putting much of their effrt by riding on the EU's emissions trading program, which throughout the EU failed to realize CO2 reduction goals anywhere close to what Kyoto/Paris asked for. Many other states also took their emissions committment in this direction and have been burnt by the failure of the program; eight other states joined Switzerland to fight off this case. This means that many states within the Council will still likely fail to meet 2020 or 2030 goals, and that if they don't take strong mitigating actions beyond the cap-and-trade system, they will likely be found in violation. — Masem (t) 12:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support thanks to @Masem for expanding it, it's very important and is long enough (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 11:45, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on importance, weak oppose on quality: the quality of the prose is very poor, and much reads like a machine translation ("her reaction was not material", "aligned with the relevant political spectrum", "instead they should seek political actions"). Sandstein 12:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Likely due to the reactions section being based off machine translation from the Swiss version ( the bulk of the rest I wrote fresh from English sources) likely needs wordsmithinh — Masem (t) 13:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Machine translation does not seem acceptable for material presented as a quotation. For example, I just spot-checked ""alienating, possibly even counterproductive". The actual quotation was "befremdlich und möglicherweise gar kontraproduktiv". "Befremdlich" would be better translated as "disturbing" or "disconcerting". But if you're going to quote someone then you should give their original text per MOS:PMC, "the wording of the quoted text must be faithfully reproduced". Andrew🐉(talk) 07:47, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • From the perspective a cynic like me (call it valid or invalid if you like), I'd love to see this article discuss more actual ramifications than it already does. Switzerland has apparently been told to "reassess and address its climate change goals". What exactly does this entail and what would be the punishment for not doing so? All the comments here claim this ruling is so terribly important, yet honestly I don't see that well substantiated in the article. DarkSide830 (talk) 13:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Irish Taoiseach

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Articles: Simon Harris (talk · history · tag) and Taoiseach (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Simon Harris becomes the new (and youngest) Taoiseach of Ireland after Leo Varadkar's sudden resignation. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Simon Harris becomes the youngest Taoiseach of Ireland after Leo Varadkar's resignation.
Alternative blurb II: Simon Harris will becomes Ireland's youngest taoiseach following the resignation of Leo Varadkar after running unopposed in the election.
Alternative blurb III: Simon Harris becomes the new Taoiseach of Ireland after Leo Varadkar's resignation.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: There were two nominations at ITN already (one for Varadkar's resignation, one for Harris' nomination) and both had the consensus to wait until today. ITN/R as new executive head of state. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) XZ Utils backdoor

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Article: XZ Utils backdoor (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A maliciously introduced backdoor in the Linux utility xz within the liblzma library is found. The issue has been assigned a CVSS score of 10.0, the highest possible score. (Post)
Credits:
now we have a good enough article on the event itself. I am not much experienced with ITN, so kindly feel free to update/change the blurb as necessary. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Ralph Puckett

Article: Ralph Puckett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Medal of Honor Winner.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose there are two cn tags. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bill Gunter

Article: Bill Gunter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tallahassee Democrat
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Florida politician from back in the day. Needs work. Curbon7 (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose there is an orange tag and the article has only two sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose there are 2 sources (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 11:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted as blurb) RD/Blurb: Peter Higgs

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Article: Peter Higgs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Nobel prize winning theoretical physicist Peter Higgs (pictured in 2013) dies at the age of 94. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nobel winning physist whose namesake is part of the Higgs boson particle. Article looks in high quality shape. I am hesitant to call for a blurb for this though. Masem (t) 16:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - The Higgs boson is a very important discovery of the 21st century in terms of science. Lukt64 (talk) 17:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support although I usually do not support death blurb but he is one of the most influential people in his field therefore his death is pretty significant. PrinceofPunjabTALK 03:59, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m sure cheese makers mourn the death of a prominent cheese maker, but just because someone is prominent in their field shouldn’t qualify them for a deathblurb. The manner or direct impact of the death are not notable (e.g. a serving head of state/government’s death is notable as change of head of state for some other reason would be notable, and the assassination of a famous person is notable because it receives world headlines), and thus, it does not qualify to be on ITN in its own right This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 08:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support for blurb The man literally has a subatomic particle named after him. If there's anyone notable for a RD blurb in physics, it's him. Melmann 08:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Eclipse

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Article: Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A total solar eclipse is visible across North America. (Post)
Credits:
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Last total sun eclipse till late 2026. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: War in Sudan (2023–present)

Article: War in Sudan (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Add timeline as well. Continuation of last weeks discussion that had consensus but with admin opposition. Lukt64 (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Again, ongoing is for a constant stream of blurb-worthy events that would clog ITN if they were all added. If we were to add this, we might as well add every armed conflict. This is not getting a sufficient amount of media attention, and a relatively updated article isn't enough. ITN is not a war ticker. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ITN is NOT a war ticker, but war is the #1 thing being covered in the news right now. Lukt64 (talk) 23:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find a single front page headline on Sudan in any media outlet. The significance isn't there PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot bite my tongue on this one. I acknowledge you probably did not intend it badly, but the most recent updates to the timeline talk about various massacres/battles which have killed hundreds of innocent people. Just because the victims come from a war-torn country like Sudan and there is less detail about the exact circumstances of their deaths, does not render these peoples brutal deaths a "ticker of trivial events"... I think we should be sensitive about our choice of words here, especially when talking about these sorts of global issues. FlipandFlopped 01:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that this is an absolutely horrifying conflict, with an immense human toll. However, without sounding like a heartless monster, there is no such policy as 'WP:MINIMUMDEATHS', and there being casualties and massacres in a war zone, as awful as it is, I don't think indicates an excessive amount of notability. There are many armed conflicts in the world; people are being tortured and kidnapped by Mexican cartels as we speak, ISIS is still committing atrocities in Syria. There are detailed and updated timeline articles for these wars. But at the end of the day, this is In The News, and I think our standards for notability go beyond just posting tragedies of a certain scale. He could have phrased it better, but I agree that there doesn't seem to be anything exceptional about Sudan compared to many other conflicts that make it fit for ongoing. Just my opinion, I don't mean to trivialise these events. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An admin thinking the timeline is a ticker of trivial events (a subjective opinion, and not one that appears to be consensus) is very much "admin opposition". Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:22, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the time it was autoarchived, a consensus of 14:2 believed the updates to the relevant target articles were sufficient to post (a couple editors implied they opposed but never !voted, even accounting for them it was near unanimous). It was 14:1 when I marked it as ready; you disagreed and unmarked it as such and allowed it to be archived. I don't think you were being malicious at all, I just think you may want to be more cautious about overriding consensus in the future. Despite you technically not !voting, it was clear throughout the discussion how you would have !voted, so it's fair to say you were an involved editor when unilaterally deciding it wasn't ready after all. Just to be clear, I'm absolutely not trying to attack your character or your judgment or dogpile on you or make you feel bad, I just think this was a misstep and I hope you'll understand why some editors feel that way.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support with timeline as there are frequent and significant updates Fileyfood500 (talk) 02:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with timeline - per above. The conflict is still one of the most significant wars going on right now, and the timeline article is being updated on the regular. To be brutally honest, I don't quite understand why it was even removed in the first place. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 07:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with timeline - As Chaotic Enby already said, there was already clear consensus to post last time but it was supervoted down. No disrespect intended towards the admin in question, I don't think they had any malicious intentions, but this is an accurate description of what happened the way I see it. And it remains true that Timeline of the War in Sudan (2023–present) is getting frequent and significant updates. And yes, these are updates that would be individually blurbworthy had it not been for the fact that they're part of a long and protracted war: people being killed in the triple digits daily, significant offensives being started, etc.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support with timeline per @Bucket of sulfuric acid's above arguments (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 18:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. (again) Strange that this was not promoted based on the previous clear consensus. I just fixed the two big red errors among the 448 references. (§) I'm not sure that including text via an extract template is ideal, as one has to really dig to find referencing problems in the daughter article, whereas ideally there would be a summary in the section included in the parent article... -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 18:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment another battle of Wad Madani has begun. Battle of Wad Madani (2024) Lukt64 (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
High support with timeline and overall status. I'm the person who has been announcing a lot of the things happening in this conflict in the last few days. It's been growing especially around Khartoum and a large battle in Wad Madani started today. Along with the dengue crisis within the capital and many other things. I don't even know why this war was taken out of current events. NYMan6 (talk) 22:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Timeline article is mostly single sentence updates without paragraphs or additional depth about specific events; of insufficient quality and depth to be featured at ITN/R. Only 3 of the lines since March 1 were of more than one sentence. Conversely, the War in Sudan (2023–present) does have a little more depth, however insufficient updates about recent events, with only 3 sentences in the body appearing to refer to events in April 2024 (the past 9 days). Based on the comments above, there are events going on, but just not in sufficient depth or quality for these articles to be featured in the Ongoing section. SpencerT•C 04:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It has a lot more depth, indeed. I've added a couple more sentences from an April 10 Reuters report and three more from a March 29 Al Jazeera report on the impending famine. I've also added a section to the talk page explaining that the in-depth article is being criticized for not having enough updates in the last 9 days, while the timeline article is being criticized for having too many short updates. My hope is that by providing actual feedback to the authors, this will lead to a better entry and a better ITN decision than was made last time (i.e. not posting when there was clear consensus to post). 10.7 million people were estimated to be displaced by January 2024, 5 million are facing famine. 18 million "acute food insecurity". -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 19:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Spencer and Stephen: I should also add that it's very likely there will be quite a number of media organizations publishing articles on the 1-year anniversary of the conflict in the next 5 days. Not sure why en.wp would not do the same given the strong majority in both the last nomination and this one for promotion. That said, I'm not a fan of the one-line updates to the timeline entry. (I didn't !vote for *its* inclusion last time either.) -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:40, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Michael Boder

Article: Michael Boder (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Violin Channel
Credits:

Article updated
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German conductor focused on world premiere at the great opera houses of the world. I began the article long ago, and sadly updated. Some refs were lost but replaced. There would be much more to say ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chryssie Lytton Cobbold, Baroness Cobbold

Article: Chryssie Lytton Cobbold, Baroness Cobbold (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2024/04/09/lady-cobbold-chatelaine-knebworth-concerts-died-obituary/
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British aristocrat and writer. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 04:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewers needed) RD: Karen Yarbrough

Article: Karen Yarbrough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WBBM, CBS News
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Article updated
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American politician who served for Cook County, Illinois. The article needs work, especially with several unsourced paragraphs and a couple short sections which should either be expanded or merged. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to go now! Any reviewers who can take a look at it now are appreciated. :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 02:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the article is ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:43, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mozambique boat disaster

Article: 2024 Mozambique boat disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A ferry carrying approximately 130 people sinks off the coast of Mozambique, leaving at least 100 dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A ferry carrying approximately 130 people sinks off the coast of Nampula Province, Mozambique, leaving at least 100 dead.
News source(s): Reuters, France24
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Article updated

Shipwrecks that kill 100+ people aren't exactly run of the mill events, so I'm a little surprised this wasn't nominated. Article needs a lot of work, though. The Kip 23:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support The article on the boat tragedy is unfortunately a bit short, but the who-what-where-when-why is there. Bremps... 01:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewers needed) RD: Jerry Grote

Article: Jerry Grote (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

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There are dead refs to fix. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're all from the same magazine, Baseball Digest, I think simply removing the links and making them offline sources suffices. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Muboshgu: Doesn't that go against WP:KDL? Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I've put them back. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted combined blurb) 2024 NCAA Division I women's/men's basketball championship games

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Articles: 2024 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game (talk · history · tag) and 2024 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the South Carolina Gamecocks win the women's championship (MOP Kamilla Cardoso pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the South Carolina Gamecocks win the women's championship (MOP Kamilla Cardoso pictured) and the UConn Huskies win the men's championship.
News source(s): CBS Sports (women's) / Associated Press (men's)
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Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Men's championship (tomorrow night) is also ITN/R. Blurb will be updated with men's winner after that game but no reason not to go ahead and post the women. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support The article is detailed and sourced, with detailed box scores Fileyfood500 (talk) 22:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD:Joe Kinnear

Article: Joe Kinnear (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, National World
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Nominator's comments: Football Manager. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Slovak presidential election

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Article: 2024 Slovak presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Peter Pellegrini is elected President of Slovakia. (Post)
News source(s): AP News, Reuters
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Not as important as the Prime Minister of Slovakia, but notable enough. Classicwiki (talk) 01:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support due to the fact that the elections are nationwide and he is elected directly by the people. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We publish more than enough ITN/R politicians and so don't need secondary ones like this too. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality campaign section is correctly orange tagged as needing expansion. Aftermath section should also be expanded, since almost all of the English-language coverage about this election is related to his pro-Russian policies, which have one sentence on them (which isn't enough of a representation). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the lack of content in the campaign section and the underdeveloped state of the article seems somewhat contradictory to the above claims that this election was particularly notable even in spite of it not being ITNR. FlipandFlopped 01:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There aren’t enough details in the article to make this seem notable enough for ITN. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 22:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Some of the effects of the election are described in the aftermath section, though it only says that it is a "gain" for the government of the Prime Minister, which doesn't seem to be significant enough on its own for a blurb. The campaign section does discuss some of Pellegrini's more Russia sympathetic views, though I am not sure how significant this is considering the Prime Minister already holds similar views. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Joseph E. Brennan

Article: Joseph E. Brennan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Working on expanding it – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - needs more details on death. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 00:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Personal life section needs expansion and more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 08:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you can find any, you're welcome to present those sources and details. I've looked. All I see in Google searching and Newspapers.com is he lived on Munjoy Hill, had a wife named Connie, and two children. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
adding source for spouse's name and number of children would be sufficient. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I added some additional details to the personal life section about his children. The article is of sufficient quality. I also note the exact cause of death is not available online, likely for privacy reasons. Given he died at 89, I do not think having the exact cause of death in the article is a prerequisite for being posted to RD. FlipandFlopped 01:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Ecuador-Mexico diplomatic crisis

Article: 2024 raid on the Mexican embassy in Ecuador (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador after the latter storms its embassy in Quito. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador in response to Ecuadorian police forcibly entering the Mexican embassy in Quito.
Alternative blurb II: Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador in response to Ecuadorian police forcibly entering the Mexican embassy in Quito.
News source(s): Washington Post, El Pais
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Article updated

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ixtal (talkcontribs) 11:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Mexico seems to have completely broken off any relations with Ecuador. That's pretty major. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for events to escalate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 14:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They broke diplomatic relations. Isn't that enough escalation? They won't (let's hope) go to an actual war over this. Cambalachero (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support given that it's already a full breaking of diplomatic relationships, we can't really predict whether there will be further escalation but that enough is already notable. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support A pretty big event and Mexico have broken its relations. We posted 2023 Canada–India diplomatic crisis [3] even though there was no official breaking of relations between those two countries. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's no dedicated article and not much of an update. Coverage doesn't seem significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose' solely due to lack of a dedicated article. The incident is quite serious and almost without modern precedent. It warrants an article, and a blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is zero requirement for a standalone article, only that either we have a new article of reasonable length or that there has been a significant update to an existing article. I am on the edge of supporting this on significance, but in terms of quality there would likely need to be at least a few more paragraphs in the target article (in addition to overall article quality) to support. — Masem (t) 16:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support big international incident. The article is properly updated. Cambalachero (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, major international incident - like the Syria airstrike, one nation violating the diplomatic territory of another is significant. The Kip 18:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as this a relatively important event given that Mexico is a regional power. Would prefer some updates to article and would like to see if this escalates but not opposed to posting it. Ion.want.uu (talk) 20:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Collapsing derailment by an IP editor blocked for appalling racism  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quality issues resolved to my liking. Switching to support. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support a big international incident. LiamKorda 07:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also maybe add nicaragua also broke relations. It is more than just a reaction.37.252.92.174 (talk) 16:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Mahammed Dionne

Article: Mahammed Dionne (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.barrons.com/news/former-senegal-prime-minister-and-presidential-candidate-dies-6454d4a9
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Prime Minister of Senegal, 2014-2019. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 04:33, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article is a bit short but still it has resources and just enough information to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: C. J. Snare

Article: C. J. Snare (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]
Credits:

Article updated
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American rock singer best known as the lead singer of the band FireHouse.

(Closed) 2024 New Jersey earthquake

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Article: 2024 New Jersey earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey, making it the strongest eartkquake to affect the state since 1783. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.fox29.com/news/earthquake-did-you-feel-it-philadelphia-area-shaking
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Toadette (Let's talk together!) 20:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Little to no damage. No casualties. Seemingly the most consequential thing to happen were the temporary closings of some important pieces of infrastructure but none of these said pieces were damaged at all. An interesting oddity, but not really ITN worthy Kosazhra (talk) 20:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2024 Chabahar and Rask clashes

Article: 2024 Chabahar and Rask clashes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A terrorist attack in Chabahar and Rask, Iran resulted in the death of 27 individuals, including 11 Iranian security force members and 16 militants. (Post)
News source(s): https://indianexpress.com/article/world/twenty-seven-die-militant-attack-iran-security-forces-9251245/
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3000MAX (talk) 22:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support on Significance, Oppose on quality the article is not in good shape. It lacks inline citations and is a bit short. But the death toll is significant therefore it should be on the main page. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PrinceofPunjab, @The Kip New details have been added to the article, but I couldn’t delve further due to the scarcity of new and detailed informations. Unfortunately, there hasn’t been much news since the incident occurred, primarily because of the lack of active journalism in the country. 3000MAX (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per PrinceofPunjab. LiamKorda 07:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Pat Zachry

Article: Pat Zachry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): local12.com, Cincinnati Inquirer
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article seems ready now. LiamKorda 07:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Thomas Gumbleton

Article: Thomas Gumbleton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Catholic Bishop.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article is ready now. LiamKorda 07:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lynne Reid Banks

Article: Lynne Reid Banks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Author.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the books section is not ready. LiamKorda 07:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Abu Maria al-Qahtani

Article: Abu Maria al-Qahtani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

One cn tag. PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article seems good enough. LiamKorda 07:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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