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* ... that [[Australia]]n [[composer]] '''[[Raymond Hanson]]''', a highly regarded teacher of [[music composition]] at the [[Sydney Conservatorium of Music|Sydney Conservatorium]], was himself largely [[self-taught]]? '''[[Raymond Hanson]]''' - new article by [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 10:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
* ... that [[Australia]]n [[composer]] '''[[Raymond Hanson]]''', a highly regarded teacher of [[music composition]] at the [[Sydney Conservatorium of Music|Sydney Conservatorium]], was himself largely [[self-taught]]? '''[[Raymond Hanson]]''' - new article by [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 10:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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**[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Date/reference/length all fine; just mild surprise that it's [[User:Gatoclass#Contributions|not an article about a ship]]... <runs away> [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 01:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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* ... that the '''[[Berezan' Runestone]]''' is the only [[runestone]] discovered in Eastern Europe? (self-nom)--[[User:Berig|Berig]] ([[User talk:Berig|talk]]) 08:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
* ... that the '''[[Berezan' Runestone]]''' is the only [[runestone]] discovered in Eastern Europe? (self-nom)--[[User:Berig|Berig]] ([[User talk:Berig|talk]]) 08:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Articles created/expanded on June 4
- ... that in 1784, Abel Buell published the first map of the new United States created by an American? (Article expanded fivefold and self-nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 00:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... India's USD 650-750 million aid package has strengthened Indo-Afghan relations while making it the largest regional provider of aid to Afghanistan after the overthrow of the Taliban? Vishnava talk 00:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a German Empire was first proclaimed on 28 March 1849 with the so-called Paulskirchenverfassung? --self nom by -- Matthead Discuß 00:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3
- ... the Lawrence Wroth prefaced his definitive book on the American colonial printing trade with a quote from one of Rudyard Kipling's poems: "the different ways that different things are done"? (new article; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Mel Krause lost his job as head coach of the University of Oregon's baseball team when the university cut its baseball program in 1981? --Esprqii (talk) 23:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC) (selfnom)
- ... that Otto Soemarwoto's work as director of the Institute of Ecology has been cited as a primary influence on the resettlement strategy during Indonesia's Saguling Dam project? New article by I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC), expanded by I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC) and User:Aylad.
- ... that Sikandar Kher was first to be offered the role played by Saif Ali Khan in Dil Chahta Hai (2001)? -- self-nom and created by Mspraveen (talk) 16:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ALT... that Sikandar Kher was still in high school when he assisted Sanjay Leela Bhansali in directing Devdas (2002)? -- self-nom and created by Mspraveen (talk) 16:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Walter Livsey kept wicket so well in his debut cricket match in 1913 that the opposing team only scored three runs from his mistakes? alternative would be "only scored three leg byes" depending on whether you think the average person would know what a leg bye was, up to you. SGGH speak! 15:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Walle Plough is one of the oldest preserved ploughs known in European archaeology? Self-nom for translated article. athinaios | Talk 14:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that amateur footballer Lee Todd is in the Guinness Book of World Records for the quickest sending off in a football (soccer) match, playing for just two seconds? Self-nom by ISD (talk) 11:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1977 L. Ron Hubbard wrote a science fiction film screenplay called Revolt in the Stars which is very similar to his Xenu story from the Scientology space opera theology? -- self-nom by Cirt (talk) 09:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Unification Church of the United States, despite being the object of intense media and public attention for over 30 years, never had more than 5,000 to 10,000 members? -self-nom, --Steve Dufour (talk) 04:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- "despite"? Maybe the "intense media and public attention" drove people away? BTW, "5,000 to" seems unnecessary. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agree that this "despite" sounds odd - what does the first part of this sentence have to do at all with the second part? Has this sort of comparison been made in any independent WP:RS/WP:V sources - or is this conclusion being made for the first time in this sentence? Seems to be pushing something. Cirt (talk) 09:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Source doesn't agree with the hook statement anyhow, source says between 5,000 and 50,000 members. Gatoclass (talk) 09:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- nomination withdrawn -Sorry. Although 5,000 to 10,000 is the real figure there is no way to sift out the inflated estimates. My point was that the church made a big public impact with very few people. Steve Dufour (talk) 00:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote his debut novel This Side of Paradise to convince Zelda Sayre to marry him? And a week after publication, she did! (self-nom, expanded today. --JayHenry (talk) 04:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC) )
- A DYK hook that works better without a question mark at the very end?! :-) --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Some oppose all multi-sentence hooks, but if there is a multi-sentence hook, then the question mark belongs after the first sentence because of the implied "Did you know...". I put that in the rules a couple months ago. Art LaPella (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I know this is a bit unconventional, but since it's an important book and two famous and important literary figures I thought I'd be bold and see what others thought. --JayHenry (talk) 23:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Cathedral Church of the Prince of Peace, the episcopal see of the bishop of the Christ Catholic Church (Pruter), is said to be the smallest cathedral in the world? self-nom by John Carter (talk) 01:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ALT... that the Cathedral Church of the Prince of Peace, the episcopal see of the bishop of the Christ Catholic Church founded by Karl Pruter, is said to be the smallest cathedral in the world? -- tweaked hook by 74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Pakistan's ties with Turkey have been influenced by the admiration shared by Pakistan's founder M. A. Jinnah and its current president Pervez Musharraf for Turkey's model of modernism and secularism? Vishnava talk 00:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I crossed out the first "the" as it seems unnecessary. I'd also suggest linking to Secularism in Turkey, but we don't have a wikipage about Modernism in Turkey to link to. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Good point - I will simply link both to Atatürk's Reforms. Vishnava talk 13:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Lorin Maazel was 75 years old when his first opera, 1984, had its world premiere in 2005? (self-nom). 14:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the German Empire which was proclaimed on 28 March 1849 had founded its own small Reichsflotte navy already on 14 June 1848? --self nom by -- Matthead Discuß 00:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- .. that the German Empire Reichsflotte navy's first and only battle was fought on 4 June 1849 in the Battle of Heligoland (1849) against Denmark? --self nom by -- Matthead Discuß 00:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 2
- ... that the naming of Opium, a perfume launched in 1977 by Yves Saint Laurent, brought accusations that he was condoning drug use? - self-nom by BorgQueen (talk · contribs); Expanded from 747 characters to 3753, excluding refs, cats, and section headings. Consider this a tribute to the late maestro. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Bristol, Quebec, had Canada's first horse-drawn railroad and Quebec's first iron ore pelletizing plant? -- P199 (talk) 16:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Guglers, mercenary knights invading Switzerland in 1375, were so named because of their headwear? ~ New article, self-nom Ekem (talk) 12:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the first known specimen of the Soringa whiting (diagram pictured) was caught by accident in 1982 during a taxonomic survey of ladyfish in the Indian Ocean? ~ Article by Kare Kare; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC).
- ... that Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and a majority of Israel's population support future enlargement of the European Union to incorporate Israel? ~ Article by JLogan and Ssolbergj; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC). (Section 8.2 refers) Or alternative hook:
- ... that both the Prince of Liechtenstein and the Prince of Monaco would have to rescind their executive powers to enable their countries to be included in an enlarged European Union? (Sections 3.4 and 5.3 refer) Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that McCormick Tribune Plaza & Ice Rink is both an ice skating rink and the largest alfresco dining venue in Chicago?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the builder of Centinela Adobe (pictured) traded his 2,200-acre ranch encompassing the modern city of Inglewood for a keg of whisky and a small home in Los Angeles? five-fold text expansion, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 05:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Archdiocese of the Old Catholic Church of America has taken the official position that all Christians must support nuclear disarmament, even if it is unilateral? created today, nom by creator John Carter (talk) 22:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Italian Wall Lizards (one pictured) on a small Croatian island developed significant behavioral and morphological changes over the course of 36 years, which has been described as "rapid evolution"? significantly expanded today by nom. — Scientizzle 22:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Melomani, the first self-styled Polish jazz ensemble, was created in 1951 when jazz music was officially forbidden in Poland? self-nom by Tymek (talk) 21:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- added "in 1951".-- Matthead Discuß 22:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks man. Tymek (talk) 03:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps "Polish" should link to Music of Poland, allowing "Poland" to link to Poland? --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Lake Placid Winter Olympic Museum was the recipient of the 2005 Olympic Cup, one of the oldest awards given by the International Olympic Committee? self nom, new TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 18:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- (alt hook) *... that the bobsled from the 1932 Olympic Games, which had been missing for more than sixty years, was donated to the Lake Placid Winter Olympic Museum in 2002? still self TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 18:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- the bobsled? was there only one used? See Talk:Lake Placid Winter Olympic Museum.-- Matthead Discuß 22:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Indiana's Morgan-Monroe State Forest features gold panning? (self-nom)--Bedford Pray 18:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Indian film Woodstock Villa was the debut film of veteran Bollywood actor Anupam Kher's son, Sikander Kher? (self-nom, 5x) Mspraveen (talk) 17:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that oil and natural gas extraction and exploration will cease by 2017 in Hay-Zama Lakes, a large inland wetland in northwestern Alberta, Canada, and the province's only site for the re-introduction of Wood Bison? (self-nom) Mindmatrix 16:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Karin Pouw's statements about the book Tom Cruise: An Unauthorized Biography prompted the niece of Scientology leader David Miscavige to publicly criticize the Church of Scientology online? -- self-nom by Cirt (talk) 13:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Instead of using "nowiki", try ′ (about 2cm below the preview button) --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the novel Final Blackout by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard is seen as an early classic of the Golden Age of Science Fiction? -- self-nom, expanded over 10x from stub by Cirt (talk) 06:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC).
- I was once a great science fiction fan and I've never even heard of this book. Also, one of your refs is entitled "Hubbard hot-author status called illusion", which doesn't sound like they are about to heap the guy with praise. Hubbard is usually regarded as a hack writer in SF, so I am kind of suprised by this claim. Have you actually read these articles yourself? Gatoclass (talk) 06:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I have, and even that particular article that you refer to does acknowledge that this particular novel is seen as a classic in the Golden Age of Science Fiction genre. Feel free to check the cites - I did use one or two press releases but really only for basic info like publication re-release dates. Every single sentence is backed up to multiple WP:RS/WP:V sources. Cirt (talk) 07:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- On request from Cirt I just took a look, and everything seems fine to me. I don't have access to the offline sources, but I trust him to not make it up—I didn't have any WTF moments while reading over it. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 08:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Assertions of "early" or "late" require dates in order to be meaningful. I inserted the publishing dates from the article. --Wetman (talk) 19:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think that's necessary, the Golden Age of Science Fiction article makes clear what the period was. Gatoclass (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that charcuterie (pictured) is derived from the French words for flesh (chair) and cooked (cuit), and is the branch of cooking devoted to prepared meat products such as bacon, ham, sausage, terrines, galantines, pâtés, and confit, primarily from pork? (self-nom expanded article) --Chef Tanner (talk) 05:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- 251 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 00:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that charcuterie (pictured) is derived from the French words for flesh (chair) and cooked (cuit), and is the branch of cooking devoted to prepared meat products primarily sourced from pork? --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 01:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- 251 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 00:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Pakistan and Nepal established bilateral relations in 1963, when the then-President of Pakistan Ayub Khan made a special visit to Kathmandu? Vishnava talk 00:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that renowned Holocaust scholar Robert Jan van Pelt says that the first Holocaust deniers were the Nazis themselves? (self nom, new article). WilliamH (talk) 21:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 2001 film adaptation of William Shakespeare's Richard the Second was filmed at an abandoned Civil War-era fort on an island in Boston Harbor? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 00:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Frank T. Norman, a Louisiana Democrat, was among the first members of his party to lose a general election to a Republican opponent, as the two-party system began to sprout in the American South?--self-nomBilly Hathorn (talk) 02:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
OR
- ... that Frank T. Norman, a former mayor of Minden, Louisiana, was the first student to enroll at the Ringling School of Art, part of the Ringling Museum, of Sarasota, Florida, where he studied under Minden artist Ben Earl Looney?--self-nomBilly Hathorn (talk) 12:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 1
- ... that one novelty of Hans Gieng's 1543 statue (pictured) on the Fountain of Justice in Berne was the portrayal of Lady Justice as blindfolded? — Self-nom by Sandstein 22:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC); possibly choose this after Gerechtigkeitsgasse below.
- ... that the building that the National Theatre of Tunisia currently occupies, the Palace Theater, once served as a palace and an elementary school? New article by I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 21:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Can we not say "both"? It gives the wrong impression that it was a palace and an elementary school at the same time. --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I concur, it does sound a little weird. Thingg⊕⊗ 13:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay then. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 21:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I concur, it does sound a little weird. Thingg⊕⊗ 13:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Swiss voters rejected a proposal to hold popular votes on applications for citizenship in the June 2008 Swiss referendum? Expansion self nom Davewild (talk) 17:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that large sandstone boulders rest atop tall trees in Yellowwood State Forest (example pictured)? (self-nom)--Bedford Pray 17:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 1997 Women's Cricket World Cup saw a record 11 teams playing 32 matches in 25 different stadia? self nom SGGH speak! 15:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in the 1996 football match between England and Scotland, Uri Geller claimed that he caused Scotland's Gary McAllister to miss a penalty by moving the ball with the power of his mind? ~ Article by Jmorrison230582; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC).
- ... that a mediaeval ditch running along the centre of Gerechtigkeitsgasse, an ancient street in central Berne, can now be seen again following renovation work in 2005? ~ Article by Sandstein; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC). Other hook suggestions welcome; various possibilities exist.
- ... that Lurie Garden (pictured) is the focal nature component of the world's largest green roof?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that as a consequence of the Siamese revolution of 1688, Siam (modern day Thailand) severed virtually all ties with the West for nearly 200 years?--Work permit (talk) 05:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Article by PHG (talk · contribs) according to edit history. Not sure if 1688 is the appropriate name for this Siamese item. The Gregorian calendar was unlikely to be in use by the locals. "1688" was probably only used by historians from the West. What's the local name for this event? --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I posted the question on PHG (talk · contribs)'s talk page. The name derives from western accounts such as 1688: Revolution in Siam. The Memoir of Father De Bèze , S.J. by E. W. Hutchinson, Three Military Accounts Of The 1688 'Revolution' In Siam by Lieutenant General Desfarges, De La Touche, and J. V. des Verquains, Witnesses to a Revolution: Siam 1688 Edited and translated by Michael Smithies. I'll add that Michael Smithies is an honorary member of the Siam Society Under Royal Patronage. The last book I mentioned is available through their website.--Work permit (talk) 15:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Hollywood's Engine Co. No. 27 (pictured), now a firefighting museum, was the largest firehouse west of the Mississippi when it opened in 1930? new article, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 05:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ALT: ... that Engine Co. No. 27 (pictured) served a dual function as a movie location and an operating firehouse serving the Hollywood movie studios? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Darryl Brinkley, the first Northern League player to bat .400, lost his chance to play in the majors to the September 11, 2001 attacks? (self-nom) Resolute 04:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Chantecler (pictured), the only breed of chicken native to Canada, was created by a Trappist monk? (self nom) VanTucky 00:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the monk will object to the use of the verb "create", as only (his) God can create! Try "established" or "developed". --74.13.130.46 (talk) 05:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- First, the monk is dead. Second, he created this breed from other breeds just in the same way that art is created or a house is built. You take the things "god created" and combine or alter them to create something new. It's not a religious offense. Third, who cares? This is an encyclopedia, not a religious oligarchy. VanTucky 19:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Civility people, please. --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- First, the monk is dead. Second, he created this breed from other breeds just in the same way that art is created or a house is built. You take the things "god created" and combine or alter them to create something new. It's not a religious offense. Third, who cares? This is an encyclopedia, not a religious oligarchy. VanTucky 19:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the first use of a hierarchical organization system in a book is attributed to the topics in Factorum ac dictorum memorabilium libri IX written by Valerius Maximus? new article self nominated by --Doug talk 22:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ALT ... that Factorum ac dictorum memorabilium libri IX is a collection of nearly 1000 ancient historical anecdotes written by Valerius Maximus? new article, self nominated by --Doug talk 22:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Vratislav Brabenec (pictured), a member of the Plastic People of the Universe, studied theology and was in Communist prison for eight months because of his music? (self nom) Aloysius (talk) 21:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the The Greencards are a Texas bluegrass band known for their Americana sound, but are composed of two Australians and an Englishman? Self-nom, just expanded 7.1x, and I still need to finish the lead today and tomorrow on top of that, so it'll be bigger yet. rootology (T) 20:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Opaekaa Road Bridge, in Kapa'a, Hawaii is touted as the only British-built bridge located in the United States? New, self-nom by Patriarca12 (talk) 20:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the constant k filter was invented by George Campbell but was named by Otto Zobel, the inventor of the m-derived filter – both used in composite image filters? (self nom) SpinningSpark 20:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that improving Indo-Taiwan relations have led to bilateral trade rising to USD 2.26 billion by 2005, even though India has not accorded diplomatic recognition to Taiwan? Vishnava talk 18:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- While the article is properly named India-Republic of China relations, is it acceptable to refer to ROC as Taiwan in the DYK statement, or is it compulsory to be ROC? Feel free to change the naming if ROC is the only possible name. Vishnava talk 18:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Corlea Trackway, a kilometre-long corduroy road in County Longford, Ireland, was built in 148 BC? New, self-nom by Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Spanish film ¡Ay Carmela! takes its title from the favorite song of the Republican soldiers and of the International Brigade during the Spanish Civil War? -- (self nom) Miguelemejia (talk) 16:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Nazi Germany in 1943 banned smoking in public places for persons under the age of 18 as part of their anti-tobacco movement? (new article, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- or, ... that smoking in air-raid shelters was banned in Nazi Germany?
- or, ... that Nazi Germany banned smoking in air-raid shelters as part of their anti-tobacco movement?
- or, ... that Nazi Germany banned smoking in buses and city trains in 1944 as part of their anti-tobacco movement?
- or, ... that Nazi Germany instituted a strong anti-tobacco movement and banned smoking in buses and city trains in 1944? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think the most interesting possible hook is the claim that Germany was the first country in the world to organize a public anti-smoking campaign, thus (alternative proposal): ... that the first public anti-smoking campaign in modern history was launched in Nazi Germany? --Soman (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- I support Soman's alternative suggestion as most historically significant and highest interest hook, i.e.:
- ... that the anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany was the first public anti-smoking campaign in modern history? — Athaenara ✉ 21:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Australian composer Raymond Hanson, a highly regarded teacher of music composition at the Sydney Conservatorium, was himself largely self-taught? Raymond Hanson - new article by Gatoclass (talk) 10:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Date/reference/length all fine; just mild surprise that it's not an article about a ship... <runs away> BencherliteTalk 01:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Berezan' Runestone is the only runestone discovered in Eastern Europe? (self-nom)--Berig (talk) 08:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Tang Dynasty imperial prince Li Tan was forced to commit suicide due to false accusations that he planned to kill his brother Li Chu, the later Emperor Daizong? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 03:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... in 1885 Jimmy Forrest (pictured) was the first professional footballer to appear for the England national football team, and had to wear a different coloured shirt to his team-mates, following protests from Scotland. (self-nomination) --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 14:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Chadian president François Tombalbaye was the first international leader to officially recognize the Bokassa government after the 1965–1966 Central African Republic coup d’état? self-nom by Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 02:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- alt hook: ... that upon completion of the 1965–1966 Central African Republic coup d’état, President Bokassa cut off diplomatic relations with Communist China, dissolved the National Assembly, and abolished the Constitution and issued a number of decrees, banning begging, female circumcision, and polygamy, among other things?--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 13:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Pinnacle@Duxton (pictured), at 50 floors, is set to be the tallest public housing in Singapore upon completion? - self-nom expansion, Mailer Diablo 17:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that bodybuilding champion Victor DelCampo was first inspired as a teenager to pump iron by the Incredible Hulk comic books? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 02:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 1944 German movie Große Freiheit Nr. 7 was banned in Nazi Germany and only permitted by the Allies in late 1945? -- self nom by -- Matthead Discuß 01:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 31
- ... that Wrigley Square's Millennium Monument is a near replica of a monument destroyed in 1953 that stood in almost the exact same location in Template:City-state?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Dead Plane EP is one of five limited edition singles and EPs released on five different labels by No Age on the same day, March 26, 2007?
- Alt: ... that of the 500 copies of No Age's vinyl EP Dead Plane, 400 were black vinyl and 100 were beige vinyl? This one has a steadier source, but the other hook is more interesting.
- This article was started on the 31st (but wasn't over 1,500 characters until 6/2), but I'm nominating it for today anyway. EnjoiNico and myself have worked one-then-the-other on it since then. So it's both a new and expanded article! BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 03:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that rock climber Peter Harding developed the art of hanging from one hand jammed into a crack, while smoking a cigarette with the other? -- selfnom Iain99Balderdash and piffle 17:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the recent Tropical Storm Arthur was the first Atlantic tropical storm that formed during the month of May since 1981? (self-nom) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Jane S. Richardson developed the ubiquitous ribbon diagram method of representing proteins? -- self-nom and five fold expansion --Gimme danger (talk) 21:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in order to produce Scottsboro: An American Tragedy, a documentary film based on the controversial courtroom pursuit Scottsboro Boys, directors Daniel Anker and Barak Goodman had to spend five years researching historic materials? --PeaceNT (talk) 16:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Sir Isambard Owen, first Vice Chancellor of the University of Bristol, is credited with designing the University gowns in the colour of the rocks of the Avon Gorge after rain? -- new article by Francium12 (talk · contribs), nom by Olaf Davis (talk · contribs). I'm not entirely convinced by my pipe to the new article. Maybe this instead?
- ... that the University of Bristol's gowns are said to have been designed by its first Vice Chancellor in the colour of the rocks of the Avon Gorge after rain?
- ... that Hoosier tradition holds that Christopher Harrison exiled himself from his native Maryland due to failing to court the future wife of Jérôme Bonaparte successfully? (created by Cool10191 (talk · contribs), nominated by --Bedford Pray 04:36, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Phillies' Ed Delahanty (pictured) was inducted as a member of the Philadelphia Baseball Wall of Fame in 1985, alongside Eddie Plank of the A's? -- New article created, self nom, image included. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 01:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that T. V. Sundaram Iyengar laid the foundation for the motor transport industry in South India, when he started a bus service in the city of Madurai, in Madras Presidency in the year 1912? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 23:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Skyline Towers apartment building is often referred to as a "ghetto in the sky"?
- (or) ... that Skyline Towers is the largest single-building of subsidized housing in the United States west of Chicago?
- (or) ... that Skyline Towers is often characterized as a ghetto tipped on its edge due to its high rate of poverty? ~ Eóin (talk) 19:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. Hook # 1 or 2 are the ones I would reccommend. Actually, #2 is best. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 20:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Just my $0.02, Hook #2 would definitely make me click on it if I saw it on the Main Page. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed, definitely. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 23:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just my $0.02, Hook #2 would definitely make me click on it if I saw it on the Main Page. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Hurricane Patsy (1959) is the earliest known Category 5 Pacific hurricane? (self-nom) Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 17:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- A statement with "earliest known" always needs a date. --Wetman (talk) 23:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that by reaching peak windspeed on September 6, 1959, Hurricane Patsy is the earliest known Category 5 Pacific hurricane? (Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC))
- A statement with "earliest known" always needs a date. --Wetman (talk) 23:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- … that in 1979, Joseph C. Howard, Sr., whose mother was Sioux and whose father was African American, was the first African American named to the United States District Court for the District of Maryland? (self nom) Marylandstater (talk) 16:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- … that William Tinsley, the son of a gamekeeper, and his brother Edward, despite almost no education, founded the leading Victorian publishers Tinsley Brothers, which brought out Thomas Hardy's first novels? (self nom) N p holmes (talk) 15:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Charles Leavitt rewrote the first draft of the Blood Diamond screenplay, only for it to be rewritten again by Ed Zwick and Marshall Herskovitz; the film being stuck in "development hell" for several years? (self-nom) —97198 talk 14:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Viking warrior Šimon is honoured in the cave monastery of Kiev? (self-nom).--Berig (talk) 13:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Alfred Pippard was involved with the structural analysis of the ill-fated R101 airship (pictured), but was cleared of any blame by the public inquiry?
- or ... that Alfred Pippard was involved in the accident investigation of the Tarrant Tabor triplane and the R38 airship (wreckage pictured)?
- Obviously either can be used without pictures, just added them in case they were needed. New article, self nom - Dumelow (talk) 11:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
or ... that Alfred Pippard was contracted to prove the methods used in the structural analysis of the R101 airship but was unable to finish his report before the crash due to political pressure? (just added this one, thought it sounded a bit more interesting - Dumelow (talk) 11:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC))
- "crash due to political pressure"? You may want to move around the words and use commas, etc. to clarify. --74.13.130.229 (talk) 13:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I didn't realise how badly that read, how about:
- ... that, due to political pressure for quicker development, Alfred Pippard was unable to finish his report on the structural analysis of the R101 airship before it crashed? - Dumelow (talk) 19:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, I didn't realise how badly that read, how about:
- ... that four generations of Vikings can be traced on the Gällsta Runestones? (self-nom)--Berig (talk) 10:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1656, German violinist Thomas Baltzar helped premiere The Siege of Rhodes, thought to have been the first all-sung English opera? self-nom; >5x expansion. BuddingJournalist 08:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the five-member Marin County Board of Supervisors governs Marin County, California from San Rafael, in addition to providing municipal services for the unincorporated areas under its jurisdiction?SuperSuperBoi (talk) 10:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Who nominated this? Also, article looks like it may not satisfy notability standards (all primary sources, and the articles on the various members of the board of supervisors also look rather non-notable too). BuddingJournalist 08:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- i nominated it, sorry i forgot to sign it. not all the sources are primary actually, check again. secondary sources where largely unavailable. the board members are irrelevant as they are not up for nomination. on a side note i fail to see how county supervisors could possibly be irrelevant, mayors are not, neither are city council members, especially in one of the richest most powerful counties in the nation and world. san francisco county board of supervisors all have articles.SuperSuperBoi (talk) 10:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Art Deco Montecito Apartments (pictured) had been the home of Ronald Reagan, James Cagney, Montgomery Clift, and George C. Scott before becoming a senior citizens housing project? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 07:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Eimsbütteler TV, a German football club, failed to advance in the national championship finals in 1934 and 1935 despite beating the later champion, FC Schalke 04, in both years in the group stage ot the tournament? (self nominated from the largley expanded Eimsbütteler TV article) EA210269 (talk) 07:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that there has been a windmill (existing mill pictured) in Mountnessing since 1477? New article created on May 31 and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 06:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Pulau Merambong is located within the largest seagrass bed in Malaysia? (new, self-nom) __earth (Talk) 04:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that China sought to strengthen Sino-Nepalese relations by supplying arms to the Nepalese monarchy against the Maoists insurgents, despite their ideological affinity with China? Vishnava talk 03:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Valium is the most-filled prescription at the Vatican Pharmacy? Savidan 00:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- "commonest" or most "prescription most often dispensed" would be better. Johnbod (talk) 15:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Paramount Pictures optioned the 2005 chick lit romantic comedy novel The Thing About Jane Spring for six figures? (self-nom; 119 characters) –Black Falcon (Talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- (alt.hook.1)... that a review of The Thing About Jane Spring in The Age described the novel's title character as the antithesis of Helen Fielding's fictional character Bridget Jones? (166 characters) –Black Falcon (Talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- (alt.hook.2)... that each chapter of the 2005 chick lit romantic comedy novel The Thing About Jane Spring begins with a quote from a Doris Day film? (133 characters) –Black Falcon (Talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- The 2nd alternate hook is not currently mentioned in the article. If there's any place for the information, I can provide the citation. (Actually, it's already in the article: "Meyers, Joe. "These 2 winners are full of fun and substance", Connecticut Post, August 1, 2005."). –Black Falcon (Talk) 23:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Portland, Oregon's 140-mile long greenway system, the 40 Mile Loop, is far from complete though it was designed in 1903, but considered one of the most creative and resourceful greenway projects in the country? (new article, self) —EncMstr (talk) 09:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 30
- ... that Skinnand is a deserted medieval village in Lincolnshire, and that its Norman church was probably burned down by Oliver Cromwell in the English Civil War? (Self nom) --seahamlass 14:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Tweaked hook to link to a more relevant article than just "medieval", same change also made in article. David Underdown (talk) 10:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- now linked Norman architecture not disam page - check where those links go, Skinnandoc! Johnbod (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Battle of Sena Gallica, fought in 551 AD, was the last major naval battle to take place in the Mediterranean Sea for more than a century? - new article, self-nom, Cplakidas (talk) 20:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Frank Gehry used a hollow design for the BP Pedestrian Bridge in order to reduce the load on underground parking garages that support the bridge?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a house on the Kramgasse (pictured), a main street in the Old City of Berne, Switzerland, was where Albert Einstein wrote his revolutionary Annus Mirabilis Papers? — Self-nom by Sandstein 10:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Jews of the Byzantine Empire enjoyed a unique legal status superior to other religious minorities, but inferior to Christians, because they were a "living testament" to the victory of Christianity?
- Alternative hook: ... that Justinian I banned the reading of the Mishna in synagogues, though this prohibition seems to have inspired the Jews of the Byzantine Empire to compose the piyutim? New article, self nom Saepe Fidelis (talk) 09:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that in 1795 John Billingsley advocated straightening sections of the rivers Brue, Axe and Parrett, to increase reclamation of the Somerset Levels? new article self nom by — Rod talk 08:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the 1900 Carpenter Gothic Wadsworth Chapel (pictured) has separate Catholic and Protestant chapels under one roof? new article, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 07:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Hardy Lake is Indiana's smallest reservoir at 741 acres of surface area? (by User:Cool10191 and myself --Bedford Pray 02:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that from 1901 to 1961 Drammens Tidende and Buskerud Blad were published as two separate daily newspapers, despite having the same owner and editor, and in the same city? - selfnom Arsenikk (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that although the blackmouth angler is famous for its ugly appearance, it is used for making agujjim, hot and spicy Korean dish by steaming? (self-nom)--Appletrees (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Indian coracles (pictured), which take only about a day to build, are one of the major tourist attractions on the Kaveri River? (recently created from merging two small stubs, less than 1/5 the length of the current article, by User:Wikiality123, nom by John Carter (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC))
- ... that the role of alpha-synuclein (pictured) in Parkinson's disease was discovered by genetic studies of a family from Contursi Terme in southern Italy, which had 61 members with Parkinson's? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by FlagSteward (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- If possible, pls crop and remove the blank space from the image. --74.14.19.91 (talk) 05:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... Franklin County Courthouse (pictured) in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania was built in 1865 to replace its predecessor building that was destroyed in the American Civil War? - new article, self-nom, doncram (talk) 18:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Australian composer and pioneering ABC broadcaster William G. James studied piano with a former student of Franz Liszt?
- (alt hook) ... that Australian composer and pioneering ABC broadcaster William G. James dedicated his Six Australian Bush Songs to Dame Nellie Melba? - new article, self nom by Gatoclass (talk) 18:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a 1974 provincial Order-in-Council has prohibited hunting on the Grand Codroy Estuary, the "most important wetland" on the island of Newfoundland? (self-nom) Mindmatrix 17:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Tang Dynasty eunuch Li Fuguo, whose assassin had cut off his head and one of his arms, was buried with a wooden head and a wooden arm? (expansion, self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 14:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that, during the 1989 Revolution, Romanian actor Victor Rebengiuc appeared on television with a toilet paper roll, as a symbol of "wiping out" the communist regime's traces? (self-nom; old article expanded many-fold today) Dahn (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Zac Efron and Claire Danes claim they saw a ghostlike figure while filming Me and Orson Welles at Gaiety Theatre on the Isle of Man? (self-nom) —97198 talk 14:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the writer Kai and artist Torino have worked with composer and writer Jun Maeda on the visual novel 5 developed by Ram, who has previously collaborated with the two on visual novels created by Key? - Article created and nom by Cloud668, though expanded by Juhachi -- クラウド668 13:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Please check were the link leads - it is by no means a new article. Dahn (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- My mistake, I was rewriting it in notepad and removed the tags -- クラウド668 20:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that India's "Look East" policy aims to establish extensive commercial, security and strategic relations with the nations of Southeast Asia and East Asia to project its influence as a regional power? Vishnava talk 00:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that UnrealIRCd is used on the largest number of IRC servers? -- Cobi(t|c|b) 07:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Does this pass the "interesting" test? FlagSteward (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that before Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie selected it for a retreat from paparazzi, the Château Miraval, Correns-Var was already well-known as a Provençal vineyard? (created today --Wetman (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC))
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Articles created/expanded on May 29
- ... that Thelma Keane was not only the inspiration for Mommy in The Family Circus, but she also headed the negotiations in which her husband, cartoonist Bil Keane, regained full copyrights to the popular comic strip? -- Scanlan (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Coco Marie Austin, actor Ice-T's wife, went to school with Jessica Alba and Hillary Swank? Article by Playserious (talk · contribs). Nom by Clerks. (talk) 18:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that stained glass from Judson Studios (pictured) is found not only in churches, but also in Frank Lloyd Wright houses, the U.S. Capitol and the Tropicana Casino? new article, self nom. by Cbl62 (talk) 05:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the namesake of the Paxton Hotel in Downtown Omaha, William A. Paxton, was also instrumental in founding the Omaha Stockyards, the Omaha Driving Park and the South Omaha Land Company? (new/self) • Freechild'sup? 03:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Clarendon is known as the heartland of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism in western Quebec, Canada, because its founder James Prendergast required that all settlers be Protestant in order to avoid religious strife? -- P199 (talk) 18:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
... that the recent Tropical Storm Alma was the first Pacific tropical cyclone on record to make landfall on Central America as a tropical storm? Created by User:Hurricanehink, Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why is this crossed out? --74.14.19.91 (talk) 06:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the veldamai there were released from their taxes duty to the state by the privileges of Grand Dukes of Lithuania? Expanded from the stub on 05-09. Article by Lokyz (talk · contribs), expanded by Renata3 (talk · contribs) nom by M.K (talk · contribs) Alternatives are welcome, M.K. (talk) 12:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the veldamai were released from their duty to pay taxes to the state by the privileges of the Grand Dukes of Lithuania? Art LaPella (talk) 05:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Second proposal seems best. Vishnava talk 19:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I may be misreading it, but doesn't the actual intro say the opposite? ... The peasant retained ownership of his property, including land, but owed taxes and levies imposed by the noble. ... Is something missing? Autodidactyl (talk) 10:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- The intro is giving the basic setup, that the peasant retained ownership while owing taxes. The hook comes from A series of privileges by the Grand Dukes (by Sigismund Kęstutaitis in 1434, Casimir IV Jagiellon in 1447, Alexander Jagiellon in 1492, Sigismund I the Old in 1507) released veldamai from their taxes to the state. The hook is about these historical events in 1447, 1492 and 1507. Vishnava talk 13:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Autodidactyl confuses 2 different taxes, as I did when I first studied this. The article explains: "... they owed taxes both to the state ... and their local noble. A series of privileges ... released veldamai from their taxes to the state." Art LaPella (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Autodidactyl (talk) 21:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Autodidactyl confuses 2 different taxes, as I did when I first studied this. The article explains: "... they owed taxes both to the state ... and their local noble. A series of privileges ... released veldamai from their taxes to the state." Art LaPella (talk) 20:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Central University Library of Cluj-Napoca in Romania was formed from two separate collections which were housed and operated independently in the same building for 50 years? ~ Article by Biruitorul; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC).
- Source, length verified. Vishnava talk 19:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that World War I flying ace Walter G. R. Hinchcliffe flew more than 40 different types of aircraft and pioneered many civilian routes, died in 1928 attempting to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a Stinson Detroiter with Lady Elsie Mackay? (self nominated by Autodidactyl (talk) 09:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC))
- As I've already pointed out on the article talkpage, much of the sourcing for this article seems to rest on a web forum, although contributors on that forum do seem to refer to a book.David Underdown (talk) 11:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- the article has now been fairly extensively referenced (including the exemplary WW1 Modelers forum) and is currently rated B class. Autodidactyl (talk) 07:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- What does "but" mean in the hook? --74.14.19.91 (talk) 06:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- removing meaningless 'but'. Autodidactyl (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that deforestation in Staffordshire inspired contributions from Erasmus Darwin and Anna Seward to a book of poetry about Needwood Forest by Francis Mundy (pictured)? double self-nom Victuallers (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's a definite confirmation. Vishnava must have missed the relevant data (it was a little difficult to find). Gatoclass (talk) 14:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Mary Shelley's verse drama Midas is a commentary on both Ovid's Metamorphoses and Chaucer's The Wife of Bath's Tale? (self-nom) Awadewit (talk) 02:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Where is the mention of "Metamorphoses" in the article? Otherwise it is Vishnava talk 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Ovid's version of the tale" has been expanded to "Ovid's version of the tale in the Metamorphoses". Awadewit (talk) 22:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Where is the mention of "Metamorphoses" in the article? Otherwise it is Vishnava talk 19:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that between 1970 and 1984 the WE Seal of approval program aided in an estimated $100,000 in restitution being made to collectors of comics and other memorabilia victimized by mail fraud? -- new article, self nom by Dgabbard (talk) 02:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm new at this so pardon any error of judgment, but I'm pretty sure that a Sequential Tarts column by a Katherine Keller and this weblink of Ron Frantz's book do not comply with WP:RS. While pages and publication details from Frantz's book are provided, you will need to remove the questionable sites and bring in more reliable sources to support the hook and the overall article. Vishnava talk 15:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I relied on a published source and as best I could researched the material (note the mention of holdings at MSU). While somewhat obscure this is an important part of the history of collectibles in terms of dealing with fraud and other growing pains. If you are adament I will remove the weblinks you object to, although I find your objections petty. I have been a comic book collector since 1975 and these are the most "reliable" sources I could find. It is nice to work hard to create an entry that illuminates and then have a snarky response. Dgabbard (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry about the last message, I came across as a bit grumpy. I created an external links section and put the links there, and pulled the quote by Keller. Hope that addresses some of the concerns.Dgabbard (talk) 20:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- I understand your feelings, its natural to be miffed at criticism of your hard work. I think we should wait for another DYK examiner like Daniel Case or Olaf Davis to give their opinion. As I said in the first place, I just started this work so its possible that I'm mistaken, although I don't think so. Vishnava talk 16:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thought I felt my ears burning. I hope I don't give the impression of being some sort of venerable DYK expert!
- I think Frantz's book is fine as a reference. Yes multiple references are preferable, but they're not always available and we do accept DYKs without them. I do agree with Vishnava though that the external links are not needed. In an article on the book a review makes sense, but a review of a book that's just used as a source is too peripheral for inclusion. The link to the book's website is a bit close to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services. I'm not saying it's spam, but the main purpose it seems to be serving is letting people get hold of the book. Since the article includes the publication details and (now) ISBN, they shouldn't have any trouble doing that without it.
- So I'm approving this for DYK, but I think the two external links would be better off removed. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- The removal of the external links as citations was my only point. Frantz's book was never the issue. Vishnava talk 15:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, Ok. When you said "bring in more reliable sources", I thought you were objecting to a single-referenced DYK. In that case we are in agreement. Olaf Davis | Talk 07:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I took out the external links. Your reasoning is very reasonable. Dgabbard (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, Ok. When you said "bring in more reliable sources", I thought you were objecting to a single-referenced DYK. In that case we are in agreement. Olaf Davis | Talk 07:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I relied on a published source and as best I could researched the material (note the mention of holdings at MSU). While somewhat obscure this is an important part of the history of collectibles in terms of dealing with fraud and other growing pains. If you are adament I will remove the weblinks you object to, although I find your objections petty. I have been a comic book collector since 1975 and these are the most "reliable" sources I could find. It is nice to work hard to create an entry that illuminates and then have a snarky response. Dgabbard (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I'm new at this so pardon any error of judgment, but I'm pretty sure that a Sequential Tarts column by a Katherine Keller and this weblink of Ron Frantz's book do not comply with WP:RS. While pages and publication details from Frantz's book are provided, you will need to remove the questionable sites and bring in more reliable sources to support the hook and the overall article. Vishnava talk 15:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the atgeir, a type of Viking Age polearm similar to a halberd or glaive, was the favored weapon of Gunnar Hámundarson, one of the main characters of Njal's Saga? -self nom by Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 18:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that as a young Royal Navy recruit, Harry Price once instigated a minor mutiny, only to end it when it reached 'ugly proportions'? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 18:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that a tool called a heckling comb, which looks like a small bed of nails, is used when hand processing flax to comb out and clean the flax fibers? expanded 5x, self nom, Loggie (talk) 18:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that along with other ex-World War II veteran ships of the Philippine Navy, BRP Cebu (PS-28) is considered as one of the oldest active fighting ships in the world? (created by User:Phichanad, nominated by User:Masterpiece2000) Masterpiece2000 (talk) 13:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Luxembourgian football club FV Stadt Düdelingen won the German Gauliga Moselland in 1942 and went on to the German championship finals, losing 0–2 to FC Schalke 04? (self nomination from the new Gauliga Moselland article) EA210269 (talk) 10:11, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Hugh de Largie, who was banned from working as a miner in Newcastle for his union activities, later became an inaugural member of the Australian Senate? - created by Roisterer, Recurring dreams (talk) 07:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Criteria checks out. Vishnava talk 15:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that World War II fighter ace Hartmann Grasser, who is credited for shooting down 103 enemy aircraft, worked as an adviser for the Syrian Air Force? (new article, self-nom) Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 06:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Article's main source is a personal website.--Carabinieri (talk) 20:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- The hook is not clear about time. Do you mean an advisor for the Syrians turns out to be a former flying ace? The old guy came out of retirement to shoot down 103 enemy aircraft? Or what? --74.14.19.91 (talk) 06:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Tang Dynasty's Empress Zhang, during her husband Emperor Suzong of Tang's illness, used her blood to write Buddhist sutras in order to seek blessings for him? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Bold, please? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ugh, forgot to. Sorry. --Nlu (talk) 15:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Bold, please? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the sinking of the Nantucket Lightship LV58 on December 10 1905 was the first time that an American ship transmitted a distress signal by radio? (self-nom, too good a nugget to pass up) JRP (talk) 05:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that sociology of the Internet is one of newly emerged branches of sociology concerned with issues such as the digital divide, online social capital and public sphere? --self nom by Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 13:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the war veterans' memorial (pictured) in Suffern, New York, is built on land where George Washington and Rochambeau camped with the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War? Daniel Case (talk) 13:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that goalkeeper Bob Roberts (pictured) was the first West Bromwich Albion player to win an international cap? -- new article self-nom by Jameboy (talk) 22:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Oregon's Devils Punch Bowl State Natural Area has a naturally eroded bowl carved in the rock by swirling ocean waves? (new article) —EncMstr (talk) 23:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Currently too short at 1276 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Pale-yellow Robin (pictured) uses the prickly Lawyer Vine as a nesting site and for nesting material? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- (expanded > 5x since May 29) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like most of the expansion was done on the 3rd instead of the 29th. So shouldn't it should be listed in June 3rd section, not May 29th?--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I guess. Depends where you want to set the start point. I'll have to count it up but I suspect it is over 5x since June 3rd too. I just wanna leave it where it has most chance of gettin' picked is all...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not the one that makes the final cut, but best thing I would say is, move it to the June 3rd section (seeing the bulk of your edits were done on that day compared to your two minor edits on the 29th), that way you have at least a couple of days for it to "settle" abit just in case you need to do some tweaking or someone has a concern about your hook. --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I guess. Depends where you want to set the start point. I'll have to count it up but I suspect it is over 5x since June 3rd too. I just wanna leave it where it has most chance of gettin' picked is all...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like most of the expansion was done on the 3rd instead of the 29th. So shouldn't it should be listed in June 3rd section, not May 29th?--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 06:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- (expanded > 5x since May 29) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 28
- ... that Juozas Urbšys was the last Foreign Minister of independent interwar Lithuania? self nom by user:M.K Alternatives are welcome, M.K. (talk) 14:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hook, length, date verified. Good to go! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ALT HOOK: ... that Juozas Urbšys was the last Foreign Minister of independent interwar Lithuania? (wikilink change) --Rosiestep (talk) 01:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that restaurant chain Buffalo Wild Wings' 500th location is in the Trillium Circle shopping center in Grand Blanc, Michigan? -- Self nom by Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Lengthen and reference good, but some might have a problem of putting an "ad" on the front page. Not me, really, but there might be some issue from others here.--Bedford Pray 02:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think that's too promotional a hook. Gatoclass (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Vladimir Kokkinaki was one of the most famous test pilots of the Soviet Union, and served as president of the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale in 1966–1967? - self-nom, almost five-fold (4,7x) expansion from Stub article. If anyone has a better idea for the hook, please suggest one. Cplakidas (talk) 15:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- ... that the Russian test pilot Vladimir Kokkinaki set twenty aviation world records?
- (Hooray for Google translation of source 1!) Not quite 5x expansion, but I think it's close enough. for my revised hook. BencherliteTalk 21:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Two possibilities here:
- ... that the Suffern, New York post office (pictured), combines elements of the Colonial Revival and Streamline Moderne architectural styles?
- ... that the lobby of the Suffern, New York post office (pictured), features a relief depicting "Communication" as a seminaked woman shooting a flaming arrow? Wonder which one will get picked. Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 16:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Can someone else check this one please? I don't have Java installed so I can't check the ref. Gatoclass (talk) 07:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Both hooks check out. "Streamline Moderne" is referred to in the ref as the "Moderne style", which is fine as that is an valid alternative name for it. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- ... that Samuel H. Boardman State Scenic Corridor contains a 367.0-acre (148.5 ha) land gift made in 1950 by Borax Consolidated, Ltd of London, and this was the first non-domestic donation to the Oregon Parks commission? (new article) —EncMstr (talk) 23:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Just long enough. Can you just provide the relevant quote or page cite from the 323-page .PDF you linked to? Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what the issue is: the citation clearly references page 184. However, I've added the two relevant paragraphs from the source to the citation. —EncMstr (talk) 04:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
See also
- User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).