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January 18
January 18, 2024
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Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar
Blurb: In response to Iran's missile attacks, Pakistan launched Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar - a counter-attack by the Pakistan Air Force. (Post)
News source(s): Time, Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
- Created by DdBbCc22 (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 06:46, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar and 2024 Iranian missile strikes in Pakistan should be posted together in ITN. Since Iranian missile strikes were earlier and was nominated earlier, the discussion should be in this nomination Harvici 07:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
January 17
January 17, 2024
(Wednesday)
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RD: Dejan Milojević
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN Daily Mail
Credits:
- Nominated by RockinJack18 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors. Coached Jokic in Euro League, Article looks good. - RockinJack18 20:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
2024 Iranian strikes in Pakistan
Blurb: Air strikes by the Iranian military killed 2 children and 3 injured around Panjgur area of Balochistan, Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Iran launches missile strikes against Pakistan, and aerial strikes against Iraq and Syria
Alternative blurb II: Iran launches missile strikes against Baloch separatist group Jaish ul-Adl based in Pakistan leaving 2 dead and 3 injured . In retaliation, the Pakistan Air Force launches Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar against Iran, leaving 7 dead.
Alternative blurb III: Iran launches missile strikes against Pakistan, and aerial strikes against Iraq and Syria. In response, Pakistan conducts retaliatory airstrikes in Iran.
News source(s): VOA, CNN, BBC, AP, NY Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
- Created by MrGreen1163 (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Totally irrelevant and insignificant from ITN's point of view. Fahads1982 (talk) 17:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support – totally relevant and significant from ITN's point of view. It represents an expansion of existing tensions around Iran and in the Middle East. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support This is a notable increase in tensions, and the article is of reasonable quality for ITN --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 21:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Attack by Iran on foreign (Pakistani) soil leading to a flare-up of tensions between the two countries in the context of the Balochistan conflict, definitely ITN material. The blurb could mention that it was the IRGC (Sepah) that was responsible, rather than the Iranian army (Artesh), as Iran maintains two parallel armies (with separate navies, air forces, etc.). ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 21:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support resulted in the recall of an ambassador, seems significant enough. JM (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is in good shape. Significant event with global coverage. Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - per above supports. Jusdafax (talk) 01:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Could mention that Iran has attacked Iraq, Pakistan and Syria in the last couple of days, and link 2024 Erbil attack as well. Stephen 02:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. This was not done in isolation from other recent Iranian strikes. JM (talk) 03:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are there sources connecting these attacks? The ones in Iraq and Syria are allegedly related to the Iran-Israel proxy conflict, while the Pakistan one is part of the Balochistan conflict. While they all happened relatively recently, it might be OR to connect them all as part of the same blurb. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 03:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. This was not done in isolation from other recent Iranian strikes. JM (talk) 03:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose we should wait till further escalation Iran is indirectly attacking Pakistan, it is directly attacking the terrorists(Jaish-ud-Adl) Even though Pakistan's government said 'it was a breach of their airspace' , I think this matter would not escalte with Israel-Hamas was going on. So, I say it is not ITN worthy until the matter escalates Harvici 04:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support; the situation has now escalated, with Pakistan launching retaliatory strikes. The proposed blurb may need to be updated, though. BilledMammal (talk) 05:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support added Alt Blurb II , since Ainty Painty nominated Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar for ITN , since both are related , I think Alt Blurb II would be the best to be posted on ITN. Harvici 07:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support with amended blurb to include the Pakistani retaliatory airstrikes vide Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar. Mar4d (talk) 08:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Tony Lloyd
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, BBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
British Labour MP. Fats40boy11 (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support , the article looks good now . I had a little misunderstanding earlier
- Support, the article looks in great shape. @User:Harvici, the DoB and the Trafford Council job are both sourced in the body (cites 9 and 8 respectively). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 17:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is well sourced and in good shape. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 07:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Ongoing nomination: 2024 missile strikes in Yemen
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:
- Nominated by Interstellarity (talk · give credit)
This is likely to go on even after the blurb rolls off. Interstellarity (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Conditional support/Wait if they do something akin to the 12th, or if the Houthis retaliate, definitely support. If not, insignificant. The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose it is the involvement of Houthi in Israel - Hamas war; there is no need to include it in ongoing unitl it escalates and becomes Ansar Allah vs USA (etc) , then it can be ongoing worthy Harvici 13:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - I said this in the original nom as well, but I think we should first wait and see if the situation actually escalates further into a more long-term conflict before deciding on whether or not to put it in Ongoing. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 14:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait until further escalation, Conditional Support on notability if it does escalate. Editor 5426387 (talk) 14:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Suggestion – Add "(Houthi involvement)" to the Israel-Hamas War ongoing. Having a secondary article in ongoing can be nice, as we see with the Russian invasion timeline. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- By far the best proposal! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Nice suggestion but if the matter escalates , this can change. Harvici 16:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Mable's idea. By far the best solution to including the matter of the Houthis. River10000 (talk) 16:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support as a concise proposal until further escalation. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 16:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support for now, seems reasonable enough. JM (talk) 01:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support I think this is a great solve Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Good idea! We could certainly keep it like that until anything major happens. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support as this is an ongoing conflict now, but I would suggest a broader focus on the conflict than just the missile strikes. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
January 16
January 16, 2024
(Tuesday)
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RD: Claire Fagin
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Needs a little bit of work. Natg 19 (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Sergio Sebastiani
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vatican News
Credits:
- Nominated by Harvici (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
A cardinal and diplomat , article is also good Harvici 10:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose There's an unsourced paragraph and a cn tag. DoB unsourced as well. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 12:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The death is sourced and the quality is good enough. Putting it on the main page may encourage new editors to source other parts of the article. Einsof (talk) 13:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article is not good yet: some lines and paras are unsourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: José Agustín
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC news
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Noted Mexican writer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The bibliography and the filmography are missing some sources, the life and career section has some unsourced info. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 10:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. The death is sourced, the article quality is fine, and it is not nominated for deletion. Those are the three criteria for posting, per WP:ITNRD. Einsof (talk) 14:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose article should be fully sourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) 2024 US Republican presidential primaries
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Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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- Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)
- Oppose We post the election of the president. Trump is going to be the nominee without any doubt unless the Supreme Court deems him ineligible to run. This result in Iowa was clearly expected.
- Noah, AATalk 14:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- WP:CRYSTAL PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Ongoing orWeak oppose, it is of some interest to the general reader (given US influence and the potential consequences of the election) but highlighting Iowa in particular doesn't bring too much. In any case, there isn't much suspense and Trump will likely be nominated, so not that interesting either. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 15:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)- The syntax must've changed because I put ongoing as 'yes'. This is an ongoing nom PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it wasn't an ongoing nom when I replied. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 15:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- The syntax must've changed because I put ongoing as 'yes'. This is an ongoing nom PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as we do not cover the run ups to any election, and in the cade if the Republican caucuses, it's pretty much assured who's going to win. — Masem (t) 15:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose We'll have primaries/caucuses going on the next few months, but none of them (either individually or collectively) have the significance of the general election in November (which is INT/R). rawmustard (talk) 15:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose totally irrelevant and insignificant from ITN's point of view. We are going to post only the presidential election. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and suggest snow close This is a ridiculous nomination, because, as the nominator has observed, this is not a US politics ticker. In case anyone needs reminding, Wikipedia is a global encyclopaedia. People in every other country would never dream of nominating pre-election party politics as an ITN. Just because it happened in the US doesn't make it more special. Chrisclear (talk) 15:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you; you've made your point in every other U.S.-related nom you've opposed for this reason. ITN/C is not your soapbox. Oppose the nom and move on. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 15:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I don't quite understand your comment, I opposed the nomination and moved on - just as you suggested. The only reason I am back here is because of your strange comment. Chrisclear (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Narges Mohammadi
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Blurb: The Iranian government has extended Nobel laureate Narges Mohammadi's jail term of 12 years for 'spreading propaganda'. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67986227
Credits:
- Nominated by John Cummings (talk · give credit)
- Oppose on quality article not updated, blurb unclear about whether the sentence has been extended from an original 12 years or by a further 12 years. Neutral for now on significance. JM (talk) 01:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Blurb is potentially misleading as she is only sentenced to an additional 15 months. We did not post similar news when Hong Kong pro-democracy activists like Joshua Wong received additional sentences. Tofusaurus (talk) 06:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose little significance Setarip (talk) 11:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose insignificant The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Insignificant as per above, Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Not significant enough for the blurb. Nigej (talk) 17:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
January 15
January 15, 2024
(Monday)
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RD: Shih Ming-teh
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News, MSN
Credits:
- Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Taiwanese activist, also known as "Taiwan's Nelson Mandela". NoonIcarus (talk) 12:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Was thinking of nominating this, but oppose on quality. Lots of cn tags, and unsourced sections. Natg 19 (talk) 17:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Primetime Emmy Awards
Blurb: At the Emmy Awards, The Bear wins Best Comedy Series, while Succession wins Best Drama. (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Probably some more updates to the ceremony itself but the article is well-established before tonight. Masem (t) 03:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support pending sources for the presenters (typically pulled from the YouTube clips, which should be added overnight), unless accepting the broadcast as a primary source is allowed. Images will also probably be added but shouldn't cause issues. (Note: I've been fairly involved in the article.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:08, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Live blogs from RSes (which sites like Variety and Deadline run) should also work. Also, while I did not watch, I would expect an "in memorandum" section if that was part of the show. Masem (t) 04:13, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've added in references for all of the presenters. There are also references for the list of winners (somehow that got missed, whoops), the total wins by program and network, and the In Memoriam section. I'm pretty confident everything is now sourced. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Live blogs from RSes (which sites like Variety and Deadline run) should also work. Also, while I did not watch, I would expect an "in memorandum" section if that was part of the show. Masem (t) 04:13, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per RunningTiger123, pending sources for presenters ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 16:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose way too many tables conmpared to the one section of text, and way too many images that violate WP:NOTGALLERY. Until this article meets Wikipedia's encyclopedic standards, it should not be posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article is written in the same format and approach of past Emmy articles as well as other major entertainment awards like the Oscars. Tables for the awards (winners and noms) and (free) images of the winners. This complaint doesn't nake sense. — Masem (t) 17:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- So the "other stuff exists".argument wins? Nigej (talk) 17:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- It does seem to me like tables are the best way of presenting information like 75th Primetime Emmy Awards#Programs. That's info that is essential to the article but reading it in prose would be tiresome. I'm not so sure the same can be said for the bloated tables in #Nominations and wins by program and #Nominations by network, which verge on trivial. For example, do Max's two nominations really warrant mentioning in the article? Or could we sum up all of that with a sentence like "HBO led all networks with 43 major award nominations, followed by Netflix with 23 and Apple TV+ with 17? (Or at the very least, could we collapse those tables by default?)
- All that said—if this is the common format across Emmys articles, there's a larger discussion to be had somewhere else and this shouldn't be a barrier to ITN promotion. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- So the "other stuff exists" argument does win. Nice to know. Nigej (talk) 19:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Other stuff exists is an argument to avoid in deletion nominations... it's not a content policy, let alone an issue at ITN. Ed [talk] [OMT] 19:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Tables are fine. Unsourced tables are not. Black Kite (talk) 19:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes I know all that, which is why I was surprised that you and Masem are using the "other stuff" argument, which doesn't seem to have any basis in policy/guidelines. Nigej (talk) 20:35, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- So the "other stuff exists" argument does win. Nice to know. Nigej (talk) 19:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article is written in the same format and approach of past Emmy articles as well as other major entertainment awards like the Oscars. Tables for the awards (winners and noms) and (free) images of the winners. This complaint doesn't nake sense. — Masem (t) 17:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Currently not up to the required standard. Plenty of unreferenced material. Nigej (talk) 17:19, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The prose is mostly OK, but there's a crapload of tables and lists without any sources. Do we actually need some of this fancruft, though? A lot of it (i.e. the "Nominations and Wins by program" tables) could probably be nuked without any loss to the article. Black Kite (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Only as a comment, those have been standard across many Award articles, and there is usually discussion in the RSes about which programs and networks led nominations and/or wins (which I know exist for this year as well) but those sources don't typically break up that information to the degree we present. In other words, about half the entire in those tables can be shown to be reported in a manner by RSes (the top halves) but not the other 50%, so those tables are mostly filling out the rest. — Masem (t) 19:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per above where editors indicate that they are planning to base the article on blogs, YouTube and their own calculations. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:35, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Stephen Laybutt
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/socceroos-stephen-laybutt-dead-northern-nsw/103320868
Credits:
- Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Australian soccer player. HiLo48 (talk) 06:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Honors section needs citations, rest is short but adequate for RD. The Kip 18:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose For a man notable for being a soccer player, the "Playing career" section is ridiculously thin. Nigej (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) Real Madrid wins Supercopa de España
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Blurb: Real Madrid defeats FC Barcelona by 4-1 to win their 13th Supercopa de España (Post)
Alternative blurb: Real Madrid emerges victorious over FC Barcelona with a 4-1 scoreline, securing their 13th Supercopa de España title.
News source(s): [2]
Credits:
- Nominated by Harvici (talk · give credit)
- Oppose for the same reason The Boat Race or the Army-Navy game are not in ITN. The La Liga championship is already posted to ITN. Doesn't matter if it's a rivalry or not. DarkSide830 (talk) 06:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose minor tournament only featuring 4 teams. Technically this is not like The Boat Race or the Army-Navy Game, as those are fixed teams. But still not major enough for ITN. Natg 19 (talk) 06:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose pretty much an exhibition tournament, hence it was hosted in Saudi Arabia not in Spain. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per everyone else. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose based on precedent that we didn't run the 2023 FA Community Shield and also because its not listed on WP:ITNR. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is by any sensible metric a bigger and more significant sport event than the 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship, but we shouldn't overflood ITN with too many football stories when we already have La Liga on ITN/R.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per all the above. Nothing like significant enough for the blurb. Nigej (talk) 09:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per pretty much all above. Not significant enough. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose association football cup series like these generally get way less coverage than their league equivalents, and this is also the case here. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Inauguration of Arévalo in Guatemala
Blurb: Bernardo Arévalo is inaugurated as President of Guatemala. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Bernardo Arévalo is inaugurated as President of Guatemala after multiple attempts to obstruct the event.
News source(s): [3] [4] [5]
Credits:
- Nominated by River10000 (talk · give credit)
Extremely important occurrence in Central America, following months of obstruction from the establishment in Guatemala. Moved to Jan 15th since the inauguration occurred after midnight. Blurbs can be adjusted as seen fit. River10000 08:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Iffy - I could go either way on this. On one hand the multiple attempts to block this from happening makes it notable, on the other hand we rarely post inaugurations of presidents, only elections (I don't know if we posted the 2023 election). PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose – One-line update. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- There's an entire article's worth of updates. —Cryptic 11:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Why in the world is this not wikilinked in this nomination or anywhere in article. I support this being featured if the election itself hadn't been. I will still say that Arévalo's article needs work too. Would it be alright if we change the original nomination template to propose the inauguration article instead? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's been changed now. I wasn't aware of the article either tbh. River10000 (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Why in the world is this not wikilinked in this nomination or anywhere in article. I support this being featured if the election itself hadn't been. I will still say that Arévalo's article needs work too. Would it be alright if we change the original nomination template to propose the inauguration article instead? ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- There's an entire article's worth of updates. —Cryptic 11:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - the article about the inauguration itself should also be linked to in the blurb if this gets posted, as Arévalo's article has very limited information (essentially just one line). Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 14:34, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's been changed. River10000 (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support considerably more significant than some rich kid taking over mommy’s job in Denmark. nableezy - 15:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC) - support alt as that’s the reason this is significant. nableezy - 22:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak oppose The efforts to stop it were/are important, but the fact it ultimately went through as planned moreso makes this a “business as usual” story rather than something truly notable. The Kip 17:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment did we cover the election? If so, I oppose this nomination. JM (talk) 21:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Oppose as the election was indeed posted. JM (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support If there's a mention that he was sworn-in following a delay by the country's congress and several legal attempts to overturn his election. The threats of his win being overturned/his delay had received coverage. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- /August 2023#(Posted) 2023 Guatemalan general election, The election was posted. Stephen 21:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - this is more important and interesting than the coronation of a new monarch in Denmark, in my opinion, but also, the fact that the inauguration was significantly delayed makes it notable, even though we covered the election. -- RockstoneSend me a message! 21:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability but the article could benefit from an improvement in quality --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, pretty rare for an inauguration to be notable separately from the election, but the surrounding context (especially the fact that the inauguration wasn't at all guaranteed to happen smoothly, if at all) definitely make this one notable. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 22:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. We posted the election results and I believe some of the surrounding protests? Not without noteworthiness, but this event has been inevitable for a month since the Constitutional Court ruled the election results were valid. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- The protests never ended up getting posted. The election itself was but never the attempts to cancel it after.
- River10000 (talk) 01:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support I'd like to see more context in the context section of the article (especially if altblurb is used), but given said context, this is clearly significant enough to post. Banedon (talk) 03:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Election was already posted and we don't usually post inaugurations. Tofusaurus (talk) 06:05, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb The attempts to block Arévalo’s inauguration make it ITN-worthy. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:15, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose we didnt post US Inaugurations Setarip (talk) 11:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb on quality and notability. --NoonIcarus (talk) 12:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb We don't normally post presidential inaugurations. But this case is totally different and its notoriety is easily visible and understandable by reading the news and articles about Arévalo and his inauguration. The quality of the inauguration article could be better, but it's just enough for it to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Admin note this has enough support to be posted, both in the quality and number of !votes, but I'm not seeing any details in the article about the "multiple attempts to cancel his inauguration". I've read the news and know that political opponents were organizing in a last-ditch effort to delay and weaken Arévalo's presidency (notably not cancel/prevent, at least from what I've seen). Why isn't any of that info included? The altblurb could also be tweaked to avoid repeating forms of the word inauguration. Ed [talk] [OMT] 18:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've went ahead and added the word obstruct instead. Debatably fits better. Also will add context about election canceling to the article asap. (I've now added a bit more context from the 2023 guatemalan election page)
- River10000 (talk) 19:13, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Usually the inauguration is a formality and not worth posting, but in this case there was enough going on to make it doubtful that the inauguration would happen. The Inauguration of Bernardo Arévalo article now also has a section explaining the context. Ucucha (talk) 03:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Alt Blurb. I agree that "we usually don't post inaugurations", but there usually aren't attempts to not have them. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
January 14
January 14, 2024
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RD: Munawwar Rana
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/renowned-urdu-poet-munawwar-rana-dies-at-71-4863447
Credits:
- Nominated by Harvici (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Famous Indian urdu poet Harvici 09:07, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article seems to be well referenced. Though it doesn't include the typical section on his notable works. Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Ongoing : 2024 Ecuadorian conflict
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NOS
Credits:
- Nominated by lukt64 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose Last news update to article was on the 11th, there doesn't seem to be that much coverage or activity of this for a sustained ongoing. --Masem (t) 23:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait If important news come out of the country, it would be good to have it, but not every low-intensity conflict needs to be Ongoing by default. As much as it looks like it, it isn't a "current wars" ticker. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 23:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if it should be put in the secondary Ongoing tier which is visible in Portal:Current events. I don't know the process for that though. JM (talk) 23:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC) Although now that I look at it, Ecuadorian security crisis covering 2020-present is already there. JM (talk) 02:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait - per @Chaotic Enby. If situation continues to deteriorate after a few days, then we can put it up. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait per CE. The Kip 17:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment the conflict in Equador is really an extension of the Mexican drug war which might be a better ongoing candidate. Sadly the utter collapse of these countries has made routine the assassination of judges, the slaughter of children, the beheading of villages, such that there aren't regular updates of the savage barbarism there. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 10:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I genuinely think you could tone down your wording a little bit when saying things like
savage barbarism
, especially since it's not the first time you use this kind of language to describe Latin Americans. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 15:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)- I don't know how else to describe a continent that has 8% of the world population but 33% of the murder [6] and literally celebrates death except as irredeemably violent and depraved. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 17:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- There's a difference between honoring and remembering the deceased and celebrating death itself. Please stop with these racist generalizations based on gross cultural misunderstandings. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 18:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Such a xenophobe and ignorant comment. Let me guess where you're from... Bedivere (talk) 01:39, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know how else to describe a continent that has 8% of the world population but 33% of the murder [6] and literally celebrates death except as irredeemably violent and depraved. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 17:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I genuinely think you could tone down your wording a little bit when saying things like
- Wait, leaning toward support There are several new developments, including the death of the prosecutor probing the TV studio attack, and 43 prisoners escaping as reported by Reuters. There is just so much going on in "ongoing" right now that this is considered relatively low-intensity. Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:47, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support was considering a nom of this myself This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
2024 El Carmen de Atrato landslide
Blurb: A landslide kills at least 34 people and injures at least 35 others in El Carmen de Atrato, Colombia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: At least 34 people are killed and at least another 35 injured after a landslide in the Colombian town of El Carmen de Atrato, Chocó.
News source(s): Guardian, AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
- Created by ElijahPepe (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit) and Filipinohere (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose At this point in time, we don’t have a viable article. Also note that it happened in the Chocó Department; there is no city of that name and the blurb is thus wrong. Schwede66 17:45, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Article has been created and switched in above. Stephen 20:42, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and nomination amendment originally nominated article 2024 Chocó landslide was merged into El Carmen de Atrato landslide. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Now merged both into 2024 El Carmen de Atrato landslide after page was moved again. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality article is 1 sentence. However, the Spanish and Portuguese articles are much longer, so if anyone wants to translate one or both of those, the quality issues will be resolved. JM (talk) 23:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on Quality. Target article shouldn't even be in the mainspace yet. DarkSide830 (talk) 03:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality as it’s a stub. The Kip 03:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Stale PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
2024 Pingdingshan mining accident
Blurb: A coal mine accident in central China's Henan province leaves 13 people dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: A coal mine accident in Pingdingshan, Henan province, has left 13 people dead and 3 people missing.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Reuters, VOA, AP,
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Ainty Painty (talk) 16:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Article is absolutely not ready. Incident bares no significance either and does not differ from any past mining incidents recently. Tofusaurus (talk) 17:06, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added altblurb Abcmaxx (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lev Rubinstein
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Meduza, The Guardian, BBC, Reuters, AFP, Moscow Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Trepang2 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Synotia (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Russian poet of great merit, one of the founders of Moscow conceptualism, political/opinion journalist, vocal opponent of the war against Ukraine. Died after a traffic collision some days ago. Had an acclaimed book in English, many books in other languages. Trepang2 (talk) 10:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support: the article looks in decent shape, although we might need to integrate a few more sources. Oltrepier (talk) 15:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support LGTM. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support No issues. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Danish royal succession
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Blurb: Frederik X succeeds Margrethe II as king of Denmark, after her abdication. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Margrethe II abdicates the throne and is succeeded by Frederik X as king of Denmark.
Alternative blurb II: Margrethe II abdicates the throne and is succeeded by Frederik X as king of Denmark.
News source(s): [7] [8] [9] [10]
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
- Support - Long live Frederik X! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Long live the King! ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 10:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. MSN12102001 (talk) 11:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait until he formally ascends, otherwise support altblurb - Article quality is sufficient for it to be posted. Tofusaurus (talk) 11:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Oppose Frederik has not yet ascended as King (in about two hours as planned) and his article needs to be worked on: perhaps expand the content and, above all, that the information it have is referenced. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait until 2:00 PM Danish time (when he is formally going to succeed his mother). Otherwise, support especially because the target article already looks good to be posted. Vida0007 (talk) 12:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Should have done it right now (14:15 CEST). Need to wait for official confirmation. Gust Justice (talk) 13:15, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support as per the reasons given above. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 13:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - all's good with the articles, formal accession is done. No need to wait much longer. estar8806 (talk) ★ 13:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - article looks good and he has ascended to the throne. Should we also link Abdication of Margrethe II in the blurb? - azpineapple | T/C 13:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality - too much uncited material in article. Polyamorph (talk) 13:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality - per above. Nigej (talk) 14:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support gaining major coverage around the world. Long live King Frederik X! Though I agree the abdication article should be linked and perhaps worded "following her abdication" rather than "after her abdication". Richiepip (talk) 14:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- How is this ITNR? Elections of heads of state/government are ITNR. Oppose on significance, some lady quit her "job" and her son has taken over. Whopdee doo. nableezy - 15:19, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Oppose on quality and significance (specifically, phenomenally bad writing, and per Nableezy). ——Serial 15:44, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not Ready for the usual reason. Gud bevare kongen! -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- And additionally that MOS:SANDWICH in "Personal interests" should be resolved. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability because while this is not ITN/R it's still a significant event. But, per above, the article is not ready due to quality. JM (talk) 18:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also think that the abdication should be the linked article, so I've proposed and support Altblurb II; the abdication article is already of sufficient quality, so any quality concerns I had are moot, and the change in target article would also alleviate all above quality concerns by others if their support is changed to Alt2. JM (talk) 19:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose only ceremonial role, and we pulled the French PM change which was a much more meaningful change. Royal news is essentially no more than celebrity news in the modern world and has no real impact at all as their roles are completely redundant. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:14, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's much, much more than just celebrity news. I agree we should've posted the French PM, why not both? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - We posted separately the ascension and coronation of Charles and Camilla. This is, in some ways, both an ascension and coronation for the Danish Realm, and so highly significant. Wide media coverage, as has been pointed out. In addition, I also think it's crucial that we also include Queen Mary in the blurb. Her ascension has been reported in its own right for her Australian roots (eg. SMH, CNN, NYT, BBC), but in any case her ascension to queen consort is significant enough to report on ITN. JMonkey2006 (talk) 21:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
We posted separately the ascension and coronation of Charles and Camilla
and that was a mistake. I understand that some people love monarchies for some reason, but Wikipedia shouldn't have. It was heavily inappropriate (and I felt bad for all the British citizens who are not monarchists but had to be constantly reminded of the monarchy). -- RockstoneSend me a message! 05:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt2: Notable event, and iirc, when her abdication was first announced, there was consensus to wait until Jan 14. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 21:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt2 the article on Margrethe's abdication is in great condition. So if that is the article we could put in bold highlighted, this nomination is ready to be posted. It's very important to know about monarchies before questioning the notability of an abdication and the ascension of a crown prince/princess to the throne. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- You get born in the right order at the right time and by this mere fact irrelevant of merit or anything else one becomes a monarch. That is all there is to it and it's hard not to question its notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's a head of state, a person ostensibly considered sovereign, and it's the second abdication in this country ever, and the first in nearly 1,000 years. Seems notable enough, even when the person has little practical power. JM (talk) 01:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- If a change in the French PM isn’t notable enough for ITN, I normally wouldn’t consider a change in a ceremonial monarchy notable enough for ITN. However, the 1st abdication in Denmark in nearly 1,000 years would make this more notable than most changes in a ceremonial monarchy. That should be noted in the blurb. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's a head of state, a person ostensibly considered sovereign, and it's the second abdication in this country ever, and the first in nearly 1,000 years. Seems notable enough, even when the person has little practical power. JM (talk) 01:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- You get born in the right order at the right time and by this mere fact irrelevant of merit or anything else one becomes a monarch. That is all there is to it and it's hard not to question its notability. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 22:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Late oppose A poorly written article that fails to meet any level of importance or readability for the average Wikipedia user Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the blurbed article (the abdication article)? JM (talk) 04:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- I am, sorry if I put this in the wrong place. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 04:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are you referring to the blurbed article (the abdication article)? JM (talk) 04:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Post-posting oppose - I might be in the minority here, but the king of Denmark has no real power, so it's silly to blurb this. I'm not convinced that it matters enough to warrant posting. --RockstoneSend me a message! 05:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Post-Posting Support. Change in head of state. DarkSide830 (talk) 05:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
January 13
January 13, 2024
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RD: Alec Musser
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [11]
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American actor. Needs a lot of work. Natg 19 (talk) 19:36, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Still needs work. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Joyce Randolph
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [12]
Credits:
- Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American actress. Natg 19 (talk) 19:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article appears sufficient. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Supportseems ready enough-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Bernard Descôteaux
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Montreal Gazette
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
- Updated by EclecticEnnui (talk · give credit) and Jkaharper (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Canadian journalist. Article needs some work. I will work on this later tonight unless someone gets to it before me. Basic edits done. Article has shaped into a basic-start class biography.Ktin (talk) 00:37, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article looks sufficient. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Tom Shales
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [13]
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– Muboshgu (talk) 17:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 09:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) 2024 Taiwanese presidential election
Blurb: Lai Ching-te is elected President of Taiwan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Vice President Lai Ching-te is elected President of the Republic of China (Taiwan).
Alternative blurb II: Lai Ching-te, a supporter of Taiwanese independence, is elected President of Taiwan.
News source(s): The Guardian - NBC News - Al Jazeera
Credits:
- Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Historic election in Taiwan where the DPP has won a consecutive third term. A major result as well as it may impact the geopolitics of the region especially with China. - Tofusaurus (talk) 12:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Strong support. Very significant. 64.231.205.137 (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support alt blurb - Major implications for region. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, preferably with mention of his support for Taiwanese independence The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 15:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- bit weird to include policy proposals on election blurbs PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely - that starts getting into POV (even in this case, Taiwan's independence would be desirable for most of the rest of the world, that's still a POV) — Masem (t) 17:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Also I believe he doesn't support an actual declaration of independence, but rather strongly asserting Taiwan's sovereignty from PR China. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Definitely - that starts getting into POV (even in this case, Taiwan's independence would be desirable for most of the rest of the world, that's still a POV) — Masem (t) 17:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- bit weird to include policy proposals on election blurbs PrecariousWorlds (talk) 17:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, preferably with mention of his support for Taiwanese independence The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 15:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on quality but ideally the section move proposal should be dealt with soon, otherwise, nothing problematic stands out. ITN/R so no question about notability, agree that the mention of Taiwanese independence support (Altblurb II) should be added for context. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 16:39, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support: No preference on blurb/altblurb. If someone wants to include the mention of his independence support, please provide an altblurb. I'm leaning oppose on that mention for now, however. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - I was surprised it wasn't already listed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, with strong preference for main blurb over altblurb per WP:COMMONNAME, and "President of Taiwan" as by far the most widely used term in media coverage. Leaning oppose of Taiwan independence mention for WP:NPOV, as even the definition of Taiwan independence is heavily contested. Butterdiplomat (talk) 19:52, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support sufficient quality is present. Added Altblurb II for mention of Taiwanese independence support; I support Altblurb II and I don't think it's NPOV to mention that in the blurb. JM (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb II; oppose other blurbs. It would be POV were this ITN entry to endorse or oppose Taiwanese independence, but not only is it not POV to state his position on the issue, but it would be missing important context on the significance of this news item to not do so. —Lowellian (reply) 21:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Significant regional news with global implications. Melmann 22:17, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support with original blurb This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are we leaving out the legislative election? The Kuomintang won one more seat than the DPP. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- You can propose an altblurb for that if that's what you want. It would probably be pretty long. JM (talk) 01:04, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is fine to leave out the legislative election in the blurb. Though significant for Taiwan, major international headlines including the New York Times, The Guardian, NPR, etc. focused on the presidential race, particularly on the front page. Butterdiplomat (talk) 05:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- The result of legislative election is a clear indicator showing that the public opinion of Taiwanese is very unsteady, a large portion of electors prefer parties seeking less conflicted relationships with PRC (although not necessarily a causation). This should not be ignored or even oversimplified as "Taiwanese prefer independence". Oppose altblurb II and support altlurb before new altblurbs is proposed by the way. --Tiouraren (talk) 06:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Taiwanese prefer the status quo, which is what Lai explicitly pushed for. The presidential election dominated media coverage and headlines. No one is saying to leave out the legislative election in the articles - it is just not as important for the short blurb. Butterdiplomat (talk) 13:33, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- The result of legislative election is a clear indicator showing that the public opinion of Taiwanese is very unsteady, a large portion of electors prefer parties seeking less conflicted relationships with PRC (although not necessarily a causation). This should not be ignored or even oversimplified as "Taiwanese prefer independence". Oppose altblurb II and support altlurb before new altblurbs is proposed by the way. --Tiouraren (talk) 06:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks good, I'm hesitant on ALT2 because there is reporting that Lai supported the status quo position as opposed to Taiwanese independence. Ornithoptera (talk) 05:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support blurb 1 or alt1. Natg 19 (talk) 05:16, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support altblurb 2 I think it's the clearest at explaining the significance of the event in an NPOV way. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) RD: Imam Hassan Sharif
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Oppose Not recent and death has been known for ten days. Bedivere (talk) 13:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose he was murdered on 3 January. This nom is stale. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Aside from the fact that he might not pass notability requirements, his death happened too long ago. Johndavies837 (talk) 16:25, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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(Review needed) RD: Bill Hayes (actor)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Wrap
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Thriley (talk) 03:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Annie Nightingale
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, Clash
Credits:
- Nominated by Oltrepier (talk · give credit)
- Updated by MIDI (talk · give credit), Mark and inwardly digest (talk · give credit), woodensuperman (talk · give credit), QuiltedBunny (talk · give credit) and Spectritus (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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She was best known for being BBC Radio 1's first female presenter and longest-serving host, as well as an innovative figure within British music and radio platforms. Unfortunately, the article is pretty much a mess at the moment (being in desperate need of sources and copy-editing), but I hope someone can help fix it! Oltrepier (talk) 16:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- There are still a number of footnote-free paragraphs, so sourcing in this wikibio seems rather inadequate. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 06:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) 2024 Yemeni airstrikes
Blurb: In Yemen, a U.S-led coalition airstrikes Yemeni Houthi rebels amidst an ongoing crisis in the Red Sea, (Post)
News source(s): CNN - AP - The Independent - France24 - The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Knightoftheswords281 (talk · give credit)
- Created by Sakiv (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sciophobiaranger (talk · give credit), WeatherWriter (talk · give credit), David O. Johnson (talk · give credit), Brandon Downes (talk · give credit) and SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: A previous nom regarding the formation of the coalition was not posted; now that there has been actual military action, I think it's natural to bring this up again. — Knightoftheswords 04:03, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- support it's an obvious invasion to a country and it's important, a high escalate invasion involving two mean power nations and their alleys is indeed big news. 3000MAX (talk) 04:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, I'd also recommend adding the map as a picture Abo Yemen✉ 04:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability, but the article needs to be improved before we post this. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 05:19, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support article is well-cited and I previously supported the Operation Prosperity Guardian nomination (and nominated it, but withdrew after you beat me to it) so of course I support this one. JM (talk) 07:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - lets go. Hugely notable event, and there will be a lot more from this, so we could possibly put it in ongoing (I think it's detached enough from the war in Israel to count) PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:03, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support - Extremely notable news. Might be put in ongoing if this leads to a more long-term conflict, but I'd say we should wait for that first. Article is a bit short, but we can work on that. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 08:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Comment The article linked in the lead is currently a double redirect.Fixed, but it's still a redirect now. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 10:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I started a move request as the title of the article is misleading, implying the strikes were against Yemen as a country rather than one terrorist group within it PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support First joint U.S., U.K. airstrikes since the 2018 bombing of Syria. Ecrusized (talk) 12:14, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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(Review needed) RD: Reggie Wells (makeup artist)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hollywood Reporter
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Nowa (talk · give credit)
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The personal makeup artist of Oprah Winfrey for nearly 30 years. Obit published 11 January. Thriley (talk) 22:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
RD: Ruth Ashton Taylor
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times, CBS News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:A0BE:FDB3:E27C:DE52 (talk · give credit)
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First female television newscaster in Los Angeles. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:A0BE:FDB3:E27C:DE52 (talk) 12:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Well-referenced and updated. gobonobo + c 14:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Article states that the lack of conventional roles for women in broadcasting had given her considerable freedom in the stories she selected to cover but does not give examples of notable stories that the subject covered; overall article could use additional depth. SpencerT•C 07:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Closed) South Africa v. Israel (Genocide Convention)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: A hearing begins on the International Court of Justice concerning claims of genocide perpetrated by the State of Israel during the ongoing Israel-Hamas War. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Hearings concerning claims of genocide perpetrated by the State of Israel amidst the Israel-Hamas War begin on the International Court of Justice.
News source(s): Le Monde Reuters AP News
Credits:
- Nominated by YuriNikolai (talk · give credit)
- Oppose
orange tags disqualify ITN nominations. JM (talk) 05:38, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Orange tag has disappeared, but I still oppose on two other factors: significance and coverage by ongoing. JM (talk) 20:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)- JM2023 I will note the page's POV discussion has (currently) no explanation of the POVs that would be supposedly underrepresented, and editors generally agreeing that the page is well-balanced after recent edits. I have not removed the tag as the discussion is active, but I believe the tag is unwarranted. Please see the discussion and tell me what you think YuriNikolai (talk) 06:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This is already covered by the ongoing Israel–Hamas war entry which contains extensive accusations of genocide by both sides. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:18, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose I think the court’s decision will be ITN-worthy, but I wouldn’t consider the hearings ITN-worthy. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 08:50, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose As noted above this is covered by the Israel–Hamas war entry. While it could be argued that the 2024 Yemeni airstrikes article is also part of that (which was posted), it seems to me that these proceedings are nothing like as significant, and I'm doubtful that they ever will be, even after any decision is announced. Nigej (talk) 09:45, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Per @Blaylockjam10 PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment – I think we should post the beginning of this case but I also think we should post a lot more things. However, under our current precendent we would wait for the outcome of at least the initial order to post a blurb. I reject the idea that just because the war is listed in Ongoing that we would never post blurbs. That is not our established practice and we often post major events in Ongoing items. I certainly think the final outcome of this case (which is likely not coming for years) should be posted. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 14:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as with most trials, we only post at the time of judgment, and given we have the ongoing, we don't need anything pre-judgment to be covered separately. --Masem (t) 14:14, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose and Close. At the very least waiting for a judgement is prudent here, even if I doubt one would pass either. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:49, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
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Mother of Melania Trump. Thriley (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lynja
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Gobonobo (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Yoshiman6464 (talk · give credit) and TomMasterReal (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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She died on January 1, but her death was announced on January 11. gobonobo + c 20:37, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, can't believe this is true. However, article does seem to need some work. BeamSkies47 (talk) 03:16, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- There is so much about her earlier life; I was able to find citations verifying her time at MIT through Newspapers.com. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 11:23, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Well sourced and long enough. Nigej (talk) 11:27, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support as the article's creator. I also made the needed expansions to her article. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 00:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support article looks good, subject is well notable and her death is getting widespread coverage from the media. —Panamitsu (talk) 00:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Per above, looking good and well sourced to me. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Looks good. A homo sapien sapien (talk) 04:17, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Well-sourced and well-cited. This is ready to be posted anytime from now. Vida0007 (talk) 12:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted following some small cleanup. A WP:BLP protection may be in order soon. DatGuyTalkContribs 15:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) Upano Valley sites
Blurb: Archaeologists announce the discovery of a cluster of ancient cities in the Amazon rainforest, which predates known complex Amazonian societies by more than a millennium. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian, NBC, Science
Credits:
- Nominated by ModernDayTrilobite (talk · give credit)
Major discovery in archaeology; large urban complex in a region not thought to have significant urban settlement. I'm open to altblurbs but would like to emphasize the age of the sites if possible. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - Article's pretty bad atm. Also notability is dubious PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Spectacular archeological discovery announced today regarding a surprisingly large network of cities in Ecuador pre-European contact, estimated population 10 to 100 thousand. Hidden by the Amazon, discovered by LIDAR, such levels of urbanization in South American were previously unknown. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 17:13, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support, always happy to highlight science discoveries at ITN! ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 17:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle Seems like a BFD. I'd like to see an infobox added and a bit more expansion, if possible. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Seems this was nominated twice on different days, so I'm condensing it to one nomination at the older nomination. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback! I've added a brief infobox and will look around to see if there's any other information I can add to the article. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Seems this was nominated twice on different days, so I'm condensing it to one nomination at the older nomination. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Would like to see a bit more article expansion, but seems notable enough for ITN and is certainly different than our average blurbs. The Kip 20:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support citations are there, not entirely sure about notability but certainly interesting. JM (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support This seems notable enough for ITN & it has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 01:03, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support on notability The quality of the article is acceptable. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per above. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜) 03:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Thank you so much for posting this as a main in the news feature. This is certainly important, fascinating, and I want to know as much as I can about it. We know so little about our ancient past, and this discovery certainly changes a lot. Again, thank you. FPTI (talk) 08:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Edward Jay Epstein
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times, WaPo
Credits:
- Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Presidentman (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Obituary published 11 January. Thriley (talk) 06:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- "Published works" require ISBNs at a minimum, some more sources needed. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:10, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- ISBNs and other details added. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:00, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- There are still a couple of {cn} tags in the prose. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 06:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Article is much improved. Looks ready. Thriley (talk) 22:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 23:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Ed Broadbent
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by Rushtheeditor (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit) and Jiffles1 (talk · give credit)
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Former Fed NDP Leader – Rushtheeditor (talk) 17:22, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality One of the sections is unsourced --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:31, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- @MtPenguinMonster: just finished sourcing his Political career section. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- The sources are now present. I now Support --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:50, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality As above. Once that's cleaned up, Support. Maj. Warden (talk) 1:22, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- @MajorWarden: hope you can take another look. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support – article is well-referenced and meets minimum depth of coverage for ITN after my edits. —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:38, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wait The "Early life" section includes some of his '80s career, two of his wives' deaths this century and his own the other day. That's not early. Parts of this and "After politics" should go into a "Personal life". InedibleHulk (talk) 10:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support well-cited, not a stub, and I've just fixed up the timeline issues in "Early life". JM (talk) 22:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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