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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Errors with "In the news"

This is not sourced in the article at all. The source in the article that talks about it says that it has not yet been confirmed by the NIF. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:08, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recheck the article. The Secretary of Energy confirmed it. Sharrdx (talk) 19:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the Secretary of Energy confirming it isn't technically the same thing as the NIF announced... is it. I mean, I doubt the Secretary is lying or mistaken, but still... a fact ought to be directly mentioned and cited if it's used in a blurb. Also, on a separate point, the NIF article is woefully under-referenced at present so shouldn't be linked from the main page. I have raised the matter at WP:ITN/C, as has another user, but no response so far.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've pulled it. I count 22 [citation needed] tags in the bold target article; since when has that ever been acceptable? Schwede66 00:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]


The above blurb is probably grammatically incorrect. It requires a possessive apostrophe at the end of "US". The sentence would then begin with

"The US' National Ignition Facility"

On a somewhat related matter, although the abbreviation "US" is relatively well-known to refer to the United States, in this sentence, it would help readers by linking to the United States article. An even better solution would be to write United States in full, to avoid confusion with other entities that share the "US" abbreviation. Chrisclear (talk) 23:42, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We conventionally don't link to countries on the Main Page (see MOS:OL), but I can see why it might be worth expanding the acronym to "United States'" for clarity. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 00:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Chrisclear, I've pulled the hook for the time being. I'm sure there'll be discussion at WP:ITN/C how and in what shape to put this back onto the main page. Please contribute to that discussion. Schwede66 00:21, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in "Did you know ..."

  • "... that T. E. Lawrence travelled 1,000 miles (1,600 km) on foot alone during a three-month tour of crusader castles before studying the Crusades and European military architecture?"

This is the shortened version of the approved hook, "... that T. E. Lawrence travelled 1,000 miles (1,600 km) on foot alone during a three-month tour of crusader castles before graduating from Jesus College, Oxford with a thesis on the Crusades and European military architecture?" However, it doesn't have the same meaning: he was already studying these things before his trip, he actually made this trip as part of his studies. The original hook seems correct (I didn't check it, but at least it makes sense and follows the article), the hook about to reach the main page is wrong.

@Theleekycauldron: please don't change the meaning of hooks when "trimming" them[1]. Fram (talk) 09:19, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All right, noted – shall we change "studying" to "writing his thesis", then? theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/her) 09:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It now says:
... that T. E. Lawrence travelled 1,000 miles (1,600 km) on foot alone during a three-month tour of crusader castles while writing his thesis about the Crusades and European military architecture?
Everyone happy? Schwede66 00:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in "On this day"

Battle of Baia

Much of the article, including the dates, look to be cited to near-contemporary 15th-century sources. This must surely be covered by modern scholarship? - Dumelow (talk) 07:34, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not convinced this rises to the level of being an error. There are contemporary sources from the 2000s listed in the References section. Sam Walton (talk) 22:30, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are 10 inline citations to the 1495 Historiae Polonicae, 10 to the 1455-1480 Historiae Polonicae, 12 to the writings of Jan Długosz (died 1480), 1 to a 1468 letter, 1 to a work of Janus Pannonius (died 1472), 2 to the 1502 Moldavian-German Chronicle and 7 to a 1904 work. There are two inline citations to works of the later of the 20th century and four to works of the 21st century (of which two solely cite that it was a Moldavian victory). Happy to hear other thoughts on this but I could certainly see a maintenance tag for primary sources being justified - Dumelow (talk)
Primary =/= old. I'm not sure why you would tag the article for the use of primary sources, when the sources are not primary. They may be old secondary sources, but old =/= unreliable. Source age is an ingredient in the stew that is reliability, but it is not the only one. --Jayron32 16:08, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Coldplay videography

"Coldplay have released 65 music videos" - Can someone direct me to where this comes from? It is not cited and the article lists 52 music videos - Dumelow (talk) 09:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"the band signed a record deal with Parlophone in 1999" is not in the source cited - Dumelow (talk) 09:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dumelow, I suggest the best way to get some action is to ping those who'd be most likely be able to help. I see that GustavoCza put this article through the FL process; can you help? Schwede66 00:18, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Any other Main Page errors

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