Template talk:Did you know
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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on December 15
Go! Go! Beckham! Adventure On Soccer Island
- ... that Go! Go! Beckham! Adventure On Soccer Island follows David Beckham on his quest to defeat the evil Mister Woe in order to restore peace to Soccer Island?
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 08:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Michigan Wolverines men's gymnastics
- ... that after a winless 0-11 record in 1996, the Michigan Wolverines men's gymnastics team won the NCAA championship in 1999 and finished in the "Super Six" in 10 of the past 11 seasons?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Frank Mazzei
- ... that Frank Mazzei was unanimously expelled from the Pennsylvania Senate in 1975?
5x expanded by Blargh29 (talk). Nominated by Blargh29 (talk) at 06:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Vegreville egg
- ... that the Vegreville egg, a giant egg sculpture in Vegreville, Alberta, rotates on its axis to the wind like a weather vane?
Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 04:28, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Alternate ... that the Vegreville egg, a giant egg sculpture in Vegreville, Alberta, is made up of over a thousand triangle and five hundred hexagonal tile stars?
- Date, length, and both hook verified. Image verified under CC 2.0 Calmer Waters 05:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Cómo Fuí a Enamorarme de Tí
- ... that the number-one song "Cómo Fuí a Enamorarme de Tí" was also used as the title of a movie starred by Mexican band Los Bukis?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 03:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC). Self nom at 03:56, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Juan Carlos Touriño
- ... that former Spanish-Argentine footballer and manager Juan Carlos Touriño wishes that some day someone will set one of his poems to music?
- Comment: The image is pretty poor quality and does not have to be used King of the North East 01:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
5x expanded by King of the North East (talk). Nominated by King of the North East (talk) at 01:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Two small things - you've not included the article title in the DYK, and I personally think we should replace "dreams" with "wishes" or "wants" or similar. GiantSnowman 01:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Fred Eyre
- ... that after playing for over twenty clubs and enjoying only mild success, former professional footballer Fred Eyre made his name as a businessman, after dinner speaker, and author?
Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Nominated by GiantSnowman (talk) at 00:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 14
Michigan Wolverines softball
- ... that the Michigan Wolverines softball team in 2005 became the first team from east of the Mississippi River to win the Women's College World Series?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 07:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Bunaken National Park
- ... that Bunaken National Park in the north of Sulawesi island of Indonesia, located near the centre of the Coral Triangle, provides habitat to 390 coral species?
Created by Elekhh (talk). Self nom at 05:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Baroque (grape)
- ... that the white French wine grape Baroque was nearly extinct before Michel Guérard, owner of the three-star Michelin rated restaurant Les Prés d'Eugénie, revived the variety at his estate?
5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 01:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Alemayehu Bezabeh
- ... that Alemayehu Bezabeh came to Spain as an illegal immigrant but he was given Spanish citizenship because he was good at cross country running?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Nominated by Sillyfolkboy (talk) at 00:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Alt hook: ... that Alemayehu Bezabeh, the 2009 European Cross Country Champion, had to have x-ray tests to determine his age and date of birth? Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 00:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Also – a word of warning – you'll need a good grasp of Spanish to verify the supporting sources. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 00:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
List of celebrities who own wineries and vineyards
- ... that rapper Lil Jon, porn star Savanna Samson, football coach Mike Ditka, actor Antonio Banderas and US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (pictured) are among celebrities who own wineries and vineyards?
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Adrian Beers
- ... that Benjamin Britten helped to replace the Grancino double bass of Adrian Beers that was destroyed by fire together with the Snape Maltings concert hall?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian – Emperor seamount chain
- ... that the volcanic chain (pictured) responsible for creating the island of Hawaii extends all the way to the Kuril-Kamchatka Trench, at the border of Russia?
Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 21:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- If Black rockfish passes as well, this will be my 10th DYK nom! Yay ^^ ResMar 22:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook verified. Image verified as being in the public domain Calmer Waters 00:50, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Norry
Created by JzG (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Article is only 1335 characters of prose (should be 1500) and hook does not link to the article. -- BigDom 21:37, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I had forgotten that interest is secondary to the right shrubbery. It will be bigger very soon, I am getting more sources together. I'm kind of hoping that if it can get on the main page we'll have a picture uploaded, since some Wikipedians must surely have travelled in Cambodia. It's one of those oddball things that lights up the "hey, wow!" button for me. Guy (Help!) 22:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook verified. Paragraph two would just need to contain an inline source before promoting. Also find it interesting that in the 1980 and 1990s, it was popular to ride on the flat-bed carriages of the train that operated as mine sweepers despite the risks from ref [1] Calmer Waters 01:12, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- ... no coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball team has ever had a overall losing record?
alt 1... that six of the last seven UNC men's basketball coaches have won National Coach of the Year Awards?
alt 2... that the last five UNC men's basketball coaches have all won National Coach of the Year Awards?
Created by Remember (talk). Nominated by Remember (talk) at 20:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Max-Hellmuth Ostermann was a German fighter pilot during World War II who was of such short build that he had to fly with wooden blocks attached to his rudder pedals?
5x expanded by MisterBee1966 (talk). Nominated by MisterBee1966 (talk) at 20:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Ruth L. Kirschstein
- ... that Dr. Ruth L. Kirschstein, appointed as the director of the National Institute of General Medical Sciences in 1974, was the first woman to direct an institute at the National Institutes of Health?
Created by Scientizzle (talk). Self nom at 19:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Frederick Stovin
- ... that Sir Frederick Stovin was removed from command of the 92nd Gordon Highlanders in 1821, after scandalising the regiment by demanding they wear trousers?
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Boletus subtomentosus
- ... that the cap of the suede bolete (pictured) has soft velvety skin?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Tricholoma saponaceum
- ... that the soapy knight is actually a mushroom so named because of its strong smell of soap?
Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 08:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. Shimgray | talk | 19:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Black rockfish
- ... that during internal fertilization, the black rockfish (pictured) female produces between 125,000 and 1,200,000 eggs, and then reabsorbs some back?
Created by Resident Mario (talk). Nominated by Resident Mario (talk) at 03:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Lake Shore Limited (NYC train)
- ... that the Lake Shore Limited, which began in 1897, was the New York Central Railroad's first regular luxury passenger train?
Created by Mackensen (talk). Nominated by Mackensen (talk) at 02:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Article length, creation date and references all check out. Accept offline reference for hook. Good work. Nick Ottery (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- All the references are linked to Google Books in the bottom section, so you should be able to check it out ;). Thanks! Mackensen (talk) 11:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes the direct links to GBooks are much appreciated, however I kept coming up against the limited page restriction before I reached page 30... Do you know how to go directly to a page in GBooks? Nick Ottery (talk) 13:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you click on Contents, you should be able to get to Section 3, which includes page 30. Mackensen (talk) 22:21, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 01:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 13
Berg River Dam
- ... that Berg River Dam, designed to release water at flow rates that match the natural flows of Berg River, is the first dam in South Africa where provision is made for flood releases for environmental purposes?
Created by Mschiffler (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 04:32, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Al Pollard
- ... that football player Al Pollard was forced to quit the United States Military Academy because he was connected to a cribbing scandal?
Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The Getaway (Dexter)
- ... that producers of the Showtime series Dexter imposed security measures and staff members had to sign non-disclosure agreements to prevent leaks of the surprise twist ending of episode "The Getaway?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 22:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good to go. Changed "forced staff members to sign" --> "staff members had to sign", since it makes it look like it was done against their will and neither the article nor ref indicates that. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 01:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
William Lugg
- ... that in a career lasting four decades British actor William Lugg appeared in Princess Ida by Gilbert and Sullivan in 1884 and the film Scrooge in 1913?
Created by Jack1956 (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 22:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Move Like Michael Jackson
- ... that Move Like Michael Jackson, a BBC Three talent show which aims to find people who can dance like the late entertainer, is judged by Jackson's elder brother, Jermaine (pictured)?
Created by AarcnJBishcp (talk), Pyrrhus16 (talk). Nominated by Pyrrhus16 (talk) at 16:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Southwest Corridor Park
- ... that Boston's Southwest Corridor Park was built along the vacant path of a canceled highway?
Created by Grk1011 (talk), Sswonk (talk). Nominated by Grk1011 (talk) at 16:19, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Odd Isøy, Kjell Bull-Hansen, Aks 13000
- ... that Odd Isøy replaced the deceased Kjell Bull-Hansen as team leader in Milorg's sabotage squad Aks 13000 during World War II in Norway?
- Comment: They two bios contain some of the same text, but this should be expected, as they usually performed together.
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 14:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Vilém Heckel
- ... that Czech landscape photographer Vilém Heckel died during the Great Peruvian Earthquake in 1970?
Created by Vejvančický (talk). Nominated by Vejvančický (talk) at 13:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Scuola Grande di San Giovanni Evangelista
- ... that the gift of a piece of the true cross helped the Scuola Grande di San Giovanni Evangelista become a rich and powerful organisation?
Created by Nick Ottery (talk). Self nom at 08:55, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Champoux Vineyard
- ... that when Champoux Vineyard was first planted in Washington State, the aim was to produce grapes that rivaled the First Growth Bordeaux estate Chateau Lafite?
- ALT1:... that Cabernet Sauvignon grapes from Champoux Vineyard were featured in two consecutive vintages of 100 point Robert Parker rated wines?
- Comment: Ref for original hook is Gregutt online Google Books (FN#4) in History section. Ref for Alt is subscription Appellation America (FN #2) in lead.
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 07:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Interpol discography
- ... that Interpol's discography consists of three studio albums, six extended plays (EPs), and nine singles?
Created by SteelersFan UK06 (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Pedro Manrique de Lara
- ... that the earliest surviving aristocratic wax seal from Spain is found on a 1179 document belonging to Castilian nobleman Pedro Manrique de Lara?
:* Comment: Footnote pending. -- PFHLai (talk) at 06:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC) Srnec took care of this. --PFHLai (talk) 03:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 06:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Second Chance (38 Special song)
- ... that although 1989's "Second Chance" became the highest-charting U.S. song of 38 Special's career, A&M Records did not renew the band's contract?
Created by Gongshow (talk). Self nom at 03:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Aleatico
- ... that during his exile on Elba, the Aleatico wines of the island were a favorite drink of Napoleon (pictured)?
- Comment: Online Daily mail (FN#5) and Alta Cucina Epicurean Society (FN#4) refs in the History section
5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 02:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Douro Wine Company
- ... that Miguelites, loyal to the former king of Portugal (pictured), blew up the brandy stores of the Douro Wine Company which led to nearly 3.4 million gallons of boiling hot Port flooding into the Douro?
- ALT1:... that complaints about Portuguese wine growers having to prostitute their daughters in order to receive fairer pricing from British shippers contributed to the founding of the Douro Wine Company?
- Comment: Ref for original hook is Johnson's Vintage (FN#1) in the Later History section. Ref for Alt is also Johnson (multiple paragraphs) in the Background section. Note if the Miguelites hook is pick, an alternative pic could be File:Miguel of Portugal.jpg
Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 23:35, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Boxing Fever
- ... that Boxing Fever is a first person boxing video game for the Game Boy Advance?
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just a comment, but that's a really dull hook. Is there no more interesting factoid? Staxringold talkcontribs 16:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah I was kind of thinking that too... here's an alternative.
- ALT1: ... that Eurogamer's Tom Bramwell felt that Boxing Fever carried on the Punch Out!! legacy on the Game Boy Advance? -- Nomader (Talk) 19:55, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Save for Boxing Day? Miyagawa (talk) 23:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have no objection to that, but are we saving hooks for Boxing Day? -- Nomader (Talk) 00:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Especially as Boxing Day has nothing whatsoever to do with boxing... – ukexpat (talk) 02:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- True but I wasn't sure if it was a "shares the name" sort of thing. I guess that would be like putting up an article on the Colombus, OH when it has no relation to Columbus Day which is a bit ridiculous. Either way, would someone mind verifying my alternative hook? -- Nomader (Talk) 08:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Eric Nystrom
- ... that Calgary Flames forward Eric Nystrom once performed an on-ice striptease while in the minor leagues as a charity stunt?
5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Nominated by Resolute (talk) at 21:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hesitant . DYK check suggests this is not a five times expansion, however I think the result is affected by the fact that the pre-expansion article was almost exclusively a table of results. There has certainly been five times expansion of article text. Hook ref checks out. hamiltonstone (talk) 05:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Hamiltonstone's conclusion even though the math is confused (DYKcheck doesn't count the table, and adding the table to the denominator as well as the numerator would decrease the ratio to 3x). 3930/669=5.8x. It fails DYKcheck because of this edit and this edit which cause the DYKcheck binary search problem, and even if we use the October 7 version as the "old version", I get 4.8x. Art LaPella (talk) 05:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Triumph Tiger 80
- ... that production of the Triumph Tiger 80 British motorcycle ended with the outbreak of WW2 and never resumed after the Triumph works were destroyed in The Blitz?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
DogsBlog.com
- ... that since its launch in January 2008, DogsBlog.com has helped to rehome over six thousand dogs in the United Kingdom?
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 19:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook verified Calmer Waters 17:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment:"Rehome"? How about "...helped to find new homes for..."? – ukexpat (talk) 02:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- I thought the same thing and changed some of its use in the article (was used 6 times); however, I looked up the term and it is in a few dictonarys as a term specific to finding a new home for animals or animals that have been adopted so I left it in the hook. should possibly link it to the wiki def if it in there yet. Calmer Waters 02:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks for doing that. Was just looking up how to do that and now I know. :) Calmer Waters 02:14, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Erling Folkvord
- ... that the Norwegian communist politician Erling Folkvord is well-known for his work as a corruption watch dog?
5x expanded by Trust Is All You Need (talk). Nominated by Meco (talk) at 17:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Carden-Baynes Auxiliary
- ... that the Carden-Baynes Auxiliary sailplane was the first motor glider with a retractable engine, and that it had a throttle in its wing tip?
Created by User:TSRL (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Société Amicale des Originaires de l'A.E.F.
- ... that the matswaniste movement in French Equatorial Africa, l'Amicale des Originaires, developed from a self-help group into a political movement and later into a messianic religious community?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Strategic Command (video game series)
- ... that in Strategic Command, a series of turn-based strategy video games taking place during World War II, the player may persuade neutral states to join the conflict using diplomatic pressure?
Created by ArCgon (talk). Self nom at 16:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Dutch intervention in Bali (1849)
- ... that in the Dutch intervention in Bali (1849), the defeated Balinese court committed mass suicide (pictured), traditionally known as a Puputan?
Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 15:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
The British Invasion (Dexter)
- ... that the death of a character in the Dexter episode "The British Invasion" was planned from two seasons beforehand?
Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 13:11, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Conquest of Goa (1510)
- ... that the conquest of Goa (1510) (pictured) by the Portuguese Governor Albuquerque was accomplished with the help of the Hindus against the Muslims?
Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 08:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 12
Seenotdienst
- ... that the Seenotdienst, the air-sea rescue service of the Luftwaffe, began in 1939 to use 14 Heinkel He 59 floatplanes (pictured)?
Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Roland Nilsson (athlete)
- ... that the 6 foot, 6 inch Swedish Wolverine Roland Nilsson won six consecutive Big 10 shot put championships in the 1950s?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 17:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
SS Hilda
5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 10:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- A mention of the number of deaths would help to clearly show why this is significant, wouldn't it? Is this info available? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 18:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that only six of the 131 people on board survived the wreck of SS Hilda (pictured)? Mjroots (talk) 19:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hook fact is verified and the article is well written, but it looks like it's not a 5x expansion. The version on 2 July 2009 has 1349 characters, while the article now has 4895. So only a 3.63x expansion at the moment. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 00:50, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I could expand the enquiry section, but it wouldn't add anything meaningful to the article. Mjroots (talk) 07:10, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Breachacha crannog
- ... that Breachacha crannog was originally an artificial island located in the middle of a Scottish loch, but today it stands in the middle of an arable field?
Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 08:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Age, length, hook ref all OK. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
List of New York Mets first-round draft picks
- ... that when Darryl Strawberry, a first-round draft pick of the New York Mets, left the Mets they received two first-round picks in compensation?
Created by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Caroline von Wolzogen
- ... that when Caroline von Wolzogen (pictured) published her novel Agnes von Lilien anonymously in 1798, it was thought by some readers to be by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe or Friedrich Schiller?
Created by Chick Bowen (talk). Self nom at 23:53, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: direct link to source for fact in hook (cited in article by page number range). Chick Bowen 23:56, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length and refs all good. Ericoides (talk) 09:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Alabama Department of Environmental Management
- ... that officials with the Alabama Department of Environmental Management, charged with enforcement of environmental policy in the state, attempted to let companies emit more air pollution than their permits allowed?
Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- 212-character hook (should be <200). Materialscientist (talk) 12:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the Alabama Department of Environmental Management, enforcer of environmental policy in Alabama, attempted to let companies emit more air pollution than their permits allowed?
- How about this? Altairisfar 15:34, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Home Movies (season 1)
- ... that the first season of the animated sitcom Home Movies was the only season of the series to utilize the "squigglevision" style of animation?
Created by SuperFlash101 (talk). Nominated by SuperFlash101 (talk) at 22:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Talking System
- ... that the Talking System name comes from Modern Talking and Blue System, two Dieter Bohlen projects?
Created by MisterWiki (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Article is almost entirely unsourced, and the single source that is available is the band's own website. We need reliable, third party, published sources. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 18:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Working on it. --MisterWiki talk contribs 19:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Talking System was named before Modern Talking and Blue System, two German music projects?
- Done adding refs --MisterWiki talk contribs 00:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Punta de Lobos
- ... that the Punta de Lobos rocks (pictured) are frequently visited by sea lions?
Created by MisterWiki (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- needs 1500 characters ... Victuallers (talk) 22:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Clout's Come Home Again
- ... that Colin Clouts Come Home Againe (1595) by the English poet Edmund Spenser has received little critical attention, yet has been called the "greatest pastoral eclogue" in the English language?
Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 19:02, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: this should be moved to Colin Clouts come home againe (or Colin Clouts Come Home Againe); Spenser did not use apostrophes, and never calls Colin Clout by his last name alone. Chick Bowen 00:08, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I moved as suggested. Thanks, —mattisse (Talk) 22:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
A Plumm Summer
- ... that Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer had a small role as Sheriff Strunk in the 2007 film A Plumm Summer?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length of expansion (DYK check is not accounting for proir version after a bot corrected a vandalized edit), and hook verified. Added additional references for hook as I was a little concerned that it came from a forum (thru a forum that appears to be editted by journalists). Nice job Calmer Waters 18:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- The Montana Forum is the name of the newspaper. It's owned by Lee Enterprises. The Montana Forum itself has no staff, but instead republishes articles from other Lee-owned newspapers such as the Billings Gazette, The Missoulian, the Helena Independent Record, the Montana Standard, and the Ravalli Republic. And, like most newspapers, the Forum also published AP articles. Back when I lived in Montana, the Forum had maybe eight to 10 pages each day. (Ah, wilderness!) Thanks for the additional cite, too. - Tim1965 (talk) 19:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I just meant I was a little concerned; however, as you have stated, it is a not a forum in that anyone can post articles. Just thought I would add an additional cite, incase others might have also wondered. Was just thrown off by the name. I was inclined to pass it as at did appear to have editoral oversight. Just thought would add cite I found while trying to research the Montana Forum. Kindly Calmer Waters 04:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Phil Northrup
- ... that Michigan Wolverines Hall of Famer Phil Northrup was a champion in the javelin, long jump and pole vault, including two NCAA javelin championships?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 18:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Cornelius S. Muller House
- ... that the Cornelius S. Muller House (pictured) in Claverack, New York, was used for Committee of Safety meetings and courts martial during the American Revolutionary War?
- ALT1:... that the Cornelius S. Muller House (pictured) in Claverack, New York, shows the influence of English building traditions on Dutch Colonial architecture?
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 16:14, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Allied siege of La Rochelle
- ... that despite the Allied siege of La Rochelle (German submarine base pictured), La Rochelle was the last French city to be liberated from German occupation in 1945?
Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 15:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- It's a 4000+ character article, so breaking it up into some sections would be a good idea. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks! Per Honor et Gloria ✍ 08:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 17:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
The Bacon Cookbook
- ... that chef Bobby Flay highlighted a recipe for dessert using bacon from The Bacon Cookbook as one of his favorites?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 13:28, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Dùn Beic
- ... that the etymology of the ruinous dun Dùn Beic (pictured) is uncertain; though one suggested possibility is that it could consist of the Gaelic personal name Béc?
Created by Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk). Self nom at 09:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Neocatastrophism
- ... that Neocatastrophism is the theory that biology-exterminating events such as gamma-ray bursts in the Milky Way have stopped the advent of complex life elsewhere in its Galactic Habitable Zone?
- Comment: A much better hock might be created in regard to the Earth's age and Fermi's paradox but my gray cells are not working very well at this moment.
Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- For 'biology exterminating events' how about 'life-exterminating events', since "biology"≠"life".--Wetman (talk) 19:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I used "biology" to avoid repeating the word "life" twice. I take them to be synonyms though biology has the connotations at least for me of including ecology while life ideas also of biology-like but nonliving things such as the game of life.--LittleHow (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Memorial Arch of Tilton
- ... that the Memorial Arch of Tilton (pictured) is not located in Tilton?
5x expanded by Found5dollar (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- The article doesn't actually say that. I can't confirm because the sources are offline. Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- The first line of the Article says "Memorial Arch of Tilton, sometimes referred to as Tilton's Folly,[2] is a historic arch on Elm Street in Northfield, New Hampshire, on a hill overlooking the town of Tilton." All of the book sources can be found on google boook... i linked them in the references. here is the one in question. Also, if you can think of a better hook, by all means.
--Found5dollar (talk) 15:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I assumed, without clicking on the link, that Northfield was a county rather than a town, my apologies. However, I still think the hook is a bit misleading, because although the arch is not physically in the town of Tilton, it's "on a hill overlooking" it, which is not terribly unusual. In which case, I will take up your offer and propose an alt hook:
- ... that the Memorial Arch of Tilton (pictured), symbolizing the "victories of peace", is constructed on the site of an old Indian fort? Gatoclass (talk) 07:02, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok. I guess you are right about the misleading part. I like the Alt.--Found5dollar (talk) 14:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
JNR Class C61
- ... that the JNR Class C61 locomotives were the first locomotives in Japan to incorporate automatic stokers?
Created by DAJF (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 02:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hook is not inline cited. The artcle only contains 1 cite within the prose. Unfortunately, additional citations are needed before this would be ready. Calmer Waters 08:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 11
Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance
- ... that Metallica (pictured) is the most sucessful artist in the Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance category with six wins out of eight nominations?
5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The Caper Chronicles
- ... that The Caper Chronicles, a web series with parkour and freerunning, was created by a small group of filmmakers at the University of Miami?
Created by Parent5446 (talk). Self nom at 23:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Alaska Central Railroad Tunnel No. 1
- ... that the Alaska Central Railroad's Tunnel #1 was a railroad tunnel that curved at 14 degrees so that the railroad could complete a 235 degree turn?
Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 17:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm open to ALT suggestions. Grsz11 17:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Michigan Wolverines men's track and field team
- ... that athletes from Michigan Wolverines men's track and field have won 43 NCAA individual event championships, 14 Olympic gold medals, and 57 Big 10 team championships?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 00:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Sven-Ivar Seldinger
- ... that Sven-Ivar Seldinger, a Swedish radiologist, first introduced the procedure of obtaining safe access to blood vessels and other hollow organs by use of a wire?
Created by Calmer Waters (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Diddley Daddy
- ... that the 1955 Bo Diddley song "Diddley Daddy" was originally called "Diddy Diddy Dum Dum," but the lyrics had to be rewritten in the studio for contractual reasons?
Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 19:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I really like the hook. The Rolling Stones version might serve as an alternate. Tell me what you think! Drmies (talk) 19:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Shepherds Flat Wind Farm
- ... that the Shepherds Flat Wind Farm in Oregon will be the biggest wind farm on land once completed?
5x expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 09:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Potamon fluviatile
- ... that crabs of the species Potamon fluviatile may have lived in Rome since before the Romans?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:55, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Verified after adding "may" to the hook. Can't absolutely confirm the image is CCA as the original sourcelink no longer links to the correct page, but other than that the licencing appears to be in order. Gatoclass (talk) 10:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Sir James Shaw, 1st Baronet
- ... that Sir James Shaw (pictured) established the right of the Lord Mayor of London to take precedence in processions in The City of London over all except the reigning monarch?
Created by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Shouldn't "London" be "City of London"? Moonraker2 (talk) 17:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Strictly, yes. Fixed. Rodhullandemu 19:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Boston Brigade Band
- ... that the Boston Brigade Band was in existence for over 40 years; being in operation from 1821 to 1862?
Created by M2545 (talk). Nominated by Coldplay Expert (talk) at 23:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- comment. if its too small just tell me and ill make the hook larger.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 23:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Cheryl Cole's Night In
- ... that Cheryl Cole performed her song "Fight for This Love" whilst dressed as a ninja for the television special Cheryl Cole's Night In?
Created by WossOccurring (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Patronage (book)
- ... that as the first novel with a thesis, Patronage by Anglo-Irish writer Maria Edgeworth (pictured) and published in 1814, opened the way for the historical novels of Sir Walter Scott?
Created by Mattisse (talk). Self nom at 21:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Ole Colbjørnsen
- ... that Ole Colbjørnsen has been called "Norway's first plan economist"?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 19:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
The Expulsion of the Déisi
- ... that one version of the 8th-century Irish text The Expulsion of the Déisi contains a passage claiming the Irish group known as the Déisi founded the royal dynasty of Dyfed, Wales?
Created by Cuchullain (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Sékouba Konaté
- ... that Moussa Dadis Camara and Sékouba Konaté drew lots to determine which of them would be President of Guinea, twice?
- ALT1:... that for his military service, Guinean Vice President Sékouba Konaté was nicknamed "El Tigre"?
Created by Fleetflame (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Popular sire effect
- ... that less than 1% of male Bernese Mountain Dogs sire more than half of all puppies? Such popular sire effects reduces genetic diversity and can exacerbate the spread of inherited diseases.
Created by Dodo bird (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- The fact for the first portion of hook regarding the Bernese Mountain Dog is not in the article. The hook is also not setup as a single question. suggest:
- ALT1 ... that the practice of breeding show dogs has produced popular sire effects that reduces genetic diversity and can exacerbate the spread of inherited diseases? Calmer Waters 05:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Salt industry in Ghana
- ... that the Ghana Export Promotion Council (GEPC) has identified the salt industry sector in Ghana as an important one to aid the diversification of the economy and to supply western Africa?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Wormleighton Manor
- ... that the Spencer family's Wormleighton Manor in Warwickshire, England, was set ablaze by Royalist forces from Banbury during the English Civil War to prevent it becoming a parliamentary stronghold?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:22, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length, and hook verified Calmer Waters 07:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Grassy Island
- ... that, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, Grassy Island in the Detroit River contains 28 different types of toxic contaminants that exceed acceptable state and federal safety levels?
Created by Notorious4life (talk). Self nom at 03:38, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hook not inline cited. Attempted to verify; however, unable to have cite[9] open and the two other cite I checked [6][8] don't seem to contain it. Calmer Waters 09:38, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 10
Queen of Elphame
- ... that the Queen of Elphame, the fairy from Scottish folklore, has appeared in a number of accounts from witchcraft trials and confessions, including the confession of Isobel Gowdie?
Created/expanded by Ihcoyc (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 17:37, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Moved here from December 11. It was created December 10. --Bruce1eetalk 07:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Length and date fine, online hook refs verified, offline refs accepted in good faith. --Bruce1eetalk 07:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Irish budget, 2010
- ... that Green Party deputy Paul Gogarty yelled "Fuck you, Deputy Stagg, fuck you" at an opponent during the recent debate on the Irish budget, 2010 in Dáil Éireann?
Created by Ebelular (talk). Expanded and nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 03:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hopefully not too controversial. --candle•wicke 03:24, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- You might want to look at the first sentence. How do you know that the budget WAS presented on 9 December 2010. My calendar says that today is the 13 December 2009!!! Jezhotwells (talk) 03:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed that. Should be fine for a DYK now. Jhfortier (talk) 06:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
I Am (film)
- ... that the idea for the Indian film I Am originated when the director had too many ideas to fit into one short film?
Created by Copana2002 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 17:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Current prose is only 1020, where a minimum required would be 1500. Would it be possible to expand this further? A suggestion would be breaking the plot section (which is not being counted right now) from bullet statements to paragraph form. Calmer Waters 17:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
United States Olympic Trials (track and field)
- ... that since 1992, the meet for the United States Track and Field Olympic Trials also served the USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships?
Created by Trackinfo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 17:26, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Don McEwen
- ... that Michigan's Don McEwen, two-time NCAA champion in the two-mile run, also won consecutive Big Ten cross country championships even though his school had no varsity cross country team?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 02:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
John Torreano
- ... that for over thirty years John Torreano has created “real fake art” by using fake gemstones in his one of a kind art works?
Created by HstryQT (talk). Nominated by HstryQT (talk) at 21:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Charles Fryatt
- ... that there is a mountain named after Charles Fryatt, and another is named after his ship?
Created by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 06:42, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Full disclosure: Charles Fryatt was linked in the SS Brussels DYK and appeared on the main page. It was subsequently discovered to be a copyvio with fundamental problems - see Wikipedia talk:Main Page#Copyright violations; the front page and talk:Charles Fryatt. I wrote a new article from scratch. As the old version of the article had such fundamental copyvio problems I deleted it under CSD G6 and replaced the article with the new version. Thus it shows in the history as a new article and I hope it will be treated as such for DYK purposes. Any reviewer will need to check both articles to confirm the mountains are named after CF and his ship. Mjroots (talk) 06:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Chuck Pratt
- ... that Yosemite Valley big wall climber Chuck Pratt (pictured) was "almost obsessive" about avoiding photos and publicity?
Created by User:Cullen328 (User talk:Cullen328). Self nom at 06:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Verified, image verified as CCA. Gatoclass (talk) 13:34, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Joseph T. Smitherman Historic Building
- ... that the Joseph T. Smitherman Historic Building (pictured) in Selma, Alabama, has housed a county courthouse, two schools, and three hospitals in its more than 160 year history?
Created by Altairisfar (talk). Self nom at 00:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Nathan Drake (character)
- ... that Naughty Dog designed Nathan Drake, protagonist of the Uncharted series, to be an everyman, incorporating aspects from Johnny Knoxville and characters like Tintin and John McClane?
Created by Scapler (talk). Nominated by Scapler (talk) at 23:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
C. R. formula
- ... that the C. R. formula was a proposal that had failed during the Gandhi-Jinnah talks in 1944?
- ALT1:... that the C. R. formula was developed by Chakravarthi Rajagopalachari but failed in talks with Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and Muhammad Ali Jinnah in 1944?
Created by Wikiality123 (talk). Nominated by ConCompS (talk) at 23:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- "the C. R. formula ... failed talks" Did you mean "failed in talks"? Art LaPella (talk) 01:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, I did. I have since changed it. ConCompS (Talk to me) 02:37, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that the C. R. formula, a proposal developed by C. Rajagopalachari to negotiate on formation of Pakistan from British India, was used as points of discussion between Gandhi and Jinnah in 1944?
- ALT2 avoids being too negative as well as gives a glimpse into what the formula was about. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 11:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2 looks excellent. ConCompS (Talk to me) 13:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
LICOPA affair
- ... that in seeking to overcome the thaw in Congo–Zaire relations in the early 1970s due to the LICOPA affair, Congolese authorities sentenced a Zairean opposition member to three years imprisonment?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 23:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Bahamian general election, 2002
- ... that the leader of the governing Free National Movement lost his seat in the 2002 Bahamian general election?
5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Shallet Turner
- ... that in 27 years as a regius professor at Cambridge (arms pictured), Shallet Turner did "absolutely nothing"?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Nominated by Moonraker2 (talk) at 20:43, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Anything more positive? ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 12:26, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, if something tiresome is wanted. The most interesting hook is negative. Moonraker2 (talk) 17:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- We normally try to avoid negative hooks. "Interesting" is not the only thing we have to consider. It's not such a big deal in this case, but a more positive hook would be preferred if one is available. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 02:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Alt 1: ... that while doing "absolutely nothing" as a history professor at Cambridge (arms pictured), Shallet Turner was elected to the Royal Society for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge? [This is the best I can come up with: both facts have in-line citations.] Moonraker2 (talk) 22:06, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Trần Dynasty
- ... that paper money was introduced for the first time in history of Vietnam during the reign of the Trần Dynasty?
5x expanded by Grenouille vert (talk). Nominated by Grenouille vert (talk) at 11:42, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on December 9
First Columbia County Courthouse, People v. Croswell
- ... that the landmark libel case People v. Croswell was tried at the First Columbia County Courthouse (pictured) in Claverack, New York?
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 20:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Zeeuws spek
- ... that unlike other forms of bacon, Zeeuws spek ("Zeeland bacon") from the Netherlands, can be eaten as sold, without cooking?
Created by Glane23 (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Ali Puli
- ... that the 17th century Centrum Naturae Concentratum attributed to Ali Puli (pictured) is the oldest identified source of the Wiccan Charge of the Goddess?
Created by Jpb1301 (talk). Self nom at 01:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Hotspot Ecosystem Research and Man's Impact On European Seas
- ... that ?The HERMIONE project studies the distribution of hotspot ecosystems, how they interact with each other, and looks at how they are effected by climate change.
Created by Hermione p (talk). Nominated by RadManCF: ([[User talk:|talk]]) at 02:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Among other details, the hook should link to the article (compare to the other hooks or see I4). Like this:
- ALT1:... that the HERMIONE project studies the distribution of hotspot ecosystems, how they interact with each other, and how they are affected by climate change? Art LaPella (talk) 06:20, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Flint Hanner
- ... that Stanford's Flint Hanner (pictured), winner of the first NCAA javelin championship, later coached the Fresno State Bulldogs to 27 track and field championships?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 02:38, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
History of Parliament
- ... that the seven volume History of Parliament 1820-1832 published in December 2009 is part of the ongoing History of Parliament project researching the Parliament of the United Kingdom and its predecessors?
Created by Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 22:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Vettius Agorius Praetextatus
- ... that, referring to Pope Damasus I's luxurious lifestyle, the Roman Pagan senator Vettius Agorius Praetextatus once said "Make me bishop of Rome and I will become a Christian"?
5x expanded by TakenakaN (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Forest migration
- ... that recent studies suggest that current climate change is causing forests to migrate to higher altitudes?
Created by Jsplantguy (talk). Nominated by Bruce1ee (talk) at 09:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Harry V. Gates
- ... that Harry V. Gates' former ranch became the Crooked River Ranch in Eastern Oregon and his former house in Hillsboro, Oregon, is listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 09:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Edward Stafford (diplomat)
- ... that the English ambassador to Paris, Edward Stafford, is suspected of having given confidential information to Spain before the Spanish Armada in 1588?
Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 08:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Harriet Phillips Bungalow
- ... that the Harriet Phillips Bungalow (pictured) in Claverack, New York, may be a catalog house built by a company other than Sears?
- Comment: This is unusual because, as the title of the article about catalog houses suggests, they are strongly associated with Sears. But it wasn't the only company making them
Created by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 03:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- But why "may be"?Thelmadatter (talk) 18:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- The historical research done as part of the NRHP nom found a very similar bungalow in the catalog of an Iowa company at the time ... materials, layout, everything. But there's no bill of sale to an owner on file that would prove it (this is often the case with catalog houses. Their status has to be demonstrated indirectly). Daniel Case (talk) 16:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Art Lentini
- ... that former Louisiana State Senator Art Lentini in 2004 led the move in his state to ban cloning, both for reproduction and research?
- ALT ... that former Louisiana State Senator Art Lentini tried to make gambling on cockfighting illegal before he obtained the votes in 2007 to outlaw the practice in his state?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:28, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Charlotte von Lengefeld
- ... that Charlotte von Lengefeld (pictured), wife of Friedrich Schiller, wrote a posthumously published novel and corresponded with Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Charlotte von Stein?
Created by Chick Bowen (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: added picture. Chick Bowen 16:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Alt 1. ... that Charlotte von Lengefeld (pictured) was the author of several works that have been attributed to her husband, Friedrich Schiller? Ericoides (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length and refs check out. (Ref accepted in good faith if alt hook is used.) Ericoides (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have some doubts about the alt hook, actually. The editors' intentions in including Die Heimliche Heirat and the shorter pieces in Schiller's collected works are not clear, at least to me. I worded it more carefully than this in the text: they are included in the edition (I assume as possibly FS's), not necessarily explicitly attributed to FS. Chick Bowen 16:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- In the text you wrote, "She has also been identified as the author of several works posthumously included in collected editions of her husband's work, notably the novel Die heimliche Heirat (The Secret Marriage)." That suggests strongly to me that she was the author of works considered to be by Schiller ("collected editions of her husband's work [my emphasis]"). Perhaps you might modify this sentence to reflect what you have asserted in your last message; as the text stands at the moment there is not the slightest suggestion that these works were included in the collected edition but not attributed to Schiller. The purpose of my Alt was to fashion a more attractive hook to entice readers to an interesting article and an interesting character. Ericoides (talk) 19:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have clarified the "Works" section of the article. I think the real problem here is a technical one having to do with the term "attribution": in scholarly terms there's a key difference between a putative attribution (assuming anything found in somebody's desk is by that person absent other evidence) and positive attribution. That's why I wanted to avoid the term. Anyway, thanks for your edits and comments. Chick Bowen 19:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- In the text you wrote, "She has also been identified as the author of several works posthumously included in collected editions of her husband's work, notably the novel Die heimliche Heirat (The Secret Marriage)." That suggests strongly to me that she was the author of works considered to be by Schiller ("collected editions of her husband's work [my emphasis]"). Perhaps you might modify this sentence to reflect what you have asserted in your last message; as the text stands at the moment there is not the slightest suggestion that these works were included in the collected edition but not attributed to Schiller. The purpose of my Alt was to fashion a more attractive hook to entice readers to an interesting article and an interesting character. Ericoides (talk) 19:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have some doubts about the alt hook, actually. The editors' intentions in including Die Heimliche Heirat and the shorter pieces in Schiller's collected works are not clear, at least to me. I worded it more carefully than this in the text: they are included in the edition (I assume as possibly FS's), not necessarily explicitly attributed to FS. Chick Bowen 16:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Haakon Bingen
- ... that in 1999, Haakon Bingen won a case in the Supreme Court of Norway, stopping circulation of an academic work written by Trond Bergh and Knut Einar Eriksen?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Argyroxiphium grayanum
- ... that Argyroxiphium grayanum, a flowering plant in the sunflower family, Asteraceae, is at a morphological extreme, highlighting its genus' plasticity of evolution by adaptive radiation?
Created by Alawa (talk). Nominated by Fuhghettaboutit (talk) at 05:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Perfect Castaway
- ... that the episode "Perfect Castaway" was planned to be the season premier of Family Guy's season five but was changed for the people to heal from Hurricane Rita's victims as the episode's plot?
5x expanded by Pedro thy master (talk). Nominated by Pedro thy master (talk) at 01:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- 229-character hook (should be <200). Prose expansion 3942/2155=1.8, should be 5x. Materialscientist (talk) 12:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hook is smaller, how can i make it larger--Pedro J. the rookie 12:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- The hook was too large according to our rules. That's why we made it smaller. It's the article that needs to be larger. It needs to be so much larger that it would be easier to start over with a new article. For more explanation, please see Q1, M3 and maybe User:Art LaPella/Long hook. Art LaPella (talk) 23:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 8
William Ganz
- ... that William Ganz co-invented the pulmonary artery catheter with Jeremy Swan in 1970?
Created by Scanlan (talk). Nominated by Cannibaloki (talk) at 18:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Connaught Theatre
- ... that the Connaught Theatre (pictured) in Worthing is a rare example of a cinema being converted into a theatre in the 1930s, when the reverse was common?
- Comment: Better hook wording welcome. Created by Peetred and expanded by me.
Created by Peetred (talk), Hassocks5489 (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 23:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Sturdivant Hall
- ... that according to American author Kathryn Tucker Windham, Sturdivant Hall (pictured), a house museum in Alabama on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places since 1973, is a haunted house?
Created by Altairisfar (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 20:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Twice Through the Heart
- ... that Mark-Anthony Turnage composed Twice Through the Heart after being given a video of a programme about a woman who killed her husband?
Created by Peter cohen (talk). Self nom at 20:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- All good, offline references taken in good faith. Grsz11 05:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Million Dollar Challenge (poker)
- ... that the first three episodes of Million Dollar Challenge on Fox Broadcasting Company have been the three most watched poker television shows of all time?
5x expanded by PokerPlayingPadre (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 03:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: The hook's reference appears to be a press release by FOX that was distributed (usually for pay) by Marketwire, not an external source. Is there an external reference for the hook? CB...(ö) 03:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- The closest thing I could find is http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/7998-poker-stars-million-dollar-challenge-returns-sunday-on-fox .--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- ... that the Norwegian black metal band Burzum is to release its first album after its founder was freed from prison on parole, having served almost sixteen years for murder?
Created by Óðinn (talk). Self nom at 19:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Er .. I can only quote DYK rule "Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided" Date, length are Ok. Materialscientist (talk) 06:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT:... that the Norwegian black metal band Burzum is to release its first studio album after a 10-year hiatus? Óðinn ☭☆ talk 08:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, perhaps its just me and other opinions are welcome, but this one sounds too promotional for main page. Materialscientist (talk) 11:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by that. The hook is a well referenced, objective fact. Óðinn ☭☆ talk 18:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry Odin, but I agree with Materialscientist. Anyway, the hook does not seem interesting. I prefer my own, ha!--Cannibaloki 20:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good luck citing it. The backlash against the original title was not covered by reliable sources. And will someone please explain how my hook is too "promotional"? Óðinn ☭☆ talk 20:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- To put it bluntly, it reads as an invitation to (buy or go for a concert or alike) a specific commercial product, or as a direct promotion of that group. Materialscientist (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good luck citing it. The backlash against the original title was not covered by reliable sources. And will someone please explain how my hook is too "promotional"? Óðinn ☭☆ talk 20:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry Odin, but I agree with Materialscientist. Anyway, the hook does not seem interesting. I prefer my own, ha!--Cannibaloki 20:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by that. The hook is a well referenced, objective fact. Óðinn ☭☆ talk 18:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, perhaps its just me and other opinions are welcome, but this one sounds too promotional for main page. Materialscientist (talk) 11:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Can we, please, stick to the rules? You're welcome to try and challenge the factual accuracy or neutrality of the article. It's awfully presumptuous of you to suggest that the mere mentioning of a commercial product is somehow akin to promoting it. Especially considering how we had this as a today's featured article just a week ago. Óðinn ☭☆ talk 02:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC).
- Actually, this discussion is about a rule: WP:DYKAR#F10 which re-emphasizes WP:ADVERTISING, although that rule's subjective nature allows for differences of opinion. Art LaPella (talk) 03:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- And this doesn't apply to our FAs? To quote from the above "Remain in Light was widely acclaimed by critics. Praise centered on its cohesive merging of disparate genres and sonic experimentation. The record has featured in several publications' lists of the best albums of the 1980s and the best albums of all time." My hook is nowhere near this "promotional". Óðinn ☭☆ talk 03:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- (i) The requirements to a DYK hook on the main page are quite different from those to a text of an article (ii) other precedents are no excuse (BTW, I do consider ALT more promotional than the quote above) (iii) consider this as my referee opinion, which you can question. Materialscientist (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- You do know that the FAs regularly appear on the main page, right? The quote above is one such instance from December 7. To hold DYKs to a higher standard then FAs is simply ludicrous. Concerning ii, I can only shake my head in disbelief at how can anyone find the claims of one the best albums of all time to be less promotional. Óðinn ☭☆ talk 04:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- ALT2:... that Burzum's seventh studio album Belus was originally titled Den Hvite Guden (Norwegian for "The White God"), but it was changed to avoid racism? Nominator = Cannibaloki 15:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- (i) The requirements to a DYK hook on the main page are quite different from those to a text of an article (ii) other precedents are no excuse (BTW, I do consider ALT more promotional than the quote above) (iii) consider this as my referee opinion, which you can question. Materialscientist (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- And this doesn't apply to our FAs? To quote from the above "Remain in Light was widely acclaimed by critics. Praise centered on its cohesive merging of disparate genres and sonic experimentation. The record has featured in several publications' lists of the best albums of the 1980s and the best albums of all time." My hook is nowhere near this "promotional". Óðinn ☭☆ talk 03:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Would it be BLP-okay to drop the murder part, to make this?
- ALT3: ... that the Norwegian black metal band Burzum is to release its first album after its founder was freed from prison on parole?
- Ucucha 03:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- This is Ok with me, but other opinions are welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 04:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- ... that Marko Vovchok became one of the most famous Ukrainian writers while she wasn't a native speaker of Ukrainian and learnt it only at the age of 25?
Created/expanded by Microcell (talk)). Nominated by Microcell (talk) at 16:30, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- We need reliable references for the article content and the statement of the hook. As it currently stands, "one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" is simply incorrect. Materialscientist (talk) 06:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- And which wording would you suggest instead? She's well-known indeed, at least because her works are learnt at Ukrainian schools. You're probably more experienced in these issues than me, so advise please. --Microcell (talk) 09:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- .. that doesn't make her "one of the most famous". Can we have a well-referenced article first please? Materialscientist (talk) 09:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, you said that the assertion "she's one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" is incorrect. Does the article need its rephrasing or confirmation?--Microcell (talk) 09:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- A WP article needs to contain information verified by reliable sources. Then we can work out the hook. Off course, a strong statement like "she's one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" needs support by at least one reliable reference. Materialscientist (talk) 10:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- So it's sufficient to find at least one source about her with the word "famous"? Or are there any criteria of fame (number of works, mentions etc.)?--Microcell (talk) 10:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- How about adding references to the article first and then let us see? Materialscientist (talk) 11:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seems there are enough references to confirm the article's content, it would be better to modify the hook's formulation, what do you think?--Microcell (talk) 14:33, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- For example, "of the most notable" - is it suitable?--Microcell (talk) 14:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- How about adding references to the article first and then let us see? Materialscientist (talk) 11:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- So it's sufficient to find at least one source about her with the word "famous"? Or are there any criteria of fame (number of works, mentions etc.)?--Microcell (talk) 10:29, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- A WP article needs to contain information verified by reliable sources. Then we can work out the hook. Off course, a strong statement like "she's one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" needs support by at least one reliable reference. Materialscientist (talk) 10:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, you said that the assertion "she's one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" is incorrect. Does the article need its rephrasing or confirmation?--Microcell (talk) 09:54, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- .. that doesn't make her "one of the most famous". Can we have a well-referenced article first please? Materialscientist (talk) 09:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- And which wording would you suggest instead? She's well-known indeed, at least because her works are learnt at Ukrainian schools. You're probably more experienced in these issues than me, so advise please. --Microcell (talk) 09:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- We need reliable references for the article content and the statement of the hook. As it currently stands, "one of the most famous Ukrainian writers" is simply incorrect. Materialscientist (talk) 06:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Microcell. No, I'm afraid the two references available in the article now are not enough to pass this. Most of the article is unsourced, so there is no way to verify that information. Since this is one of Wikipedia's core policies, a good level of referencing is expected from articles nominated for DYK. You will at least need to to provide references (from reliable sources—online or offline, and even Ukrainian language sources, it doesn't matter) to her works and claims of success. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 18:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Actually there are 4 references (including one offline book) and at least two of them verify the required fact, what does it lack else?--Microcell (talk) 18:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- An ALT1 could be something like ... that Marko Vovchok, a famous Ukrainian writer of the 19th century, was not a native speaker of Ukrainian and learnt it only at the age of 25? But, we need to reference this and other facts of the article (I don't see support for "learning Ukranian at 25 yro" yet; it is not about number of references, but about what they actually say and where do they come from). Russian or Ukrainian is fine, but I would prefer on-line sources please. BTW, you certainly know that Ukrainian version of this article is more elaborate and is easy to translate, but the key point is to confirm the facts. Materialscientist (talk) 00:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hm... "learnt at the age of 25" (i.e. in 1858) is a corollary of "From 1851 till 1858 she lived in Chernihiv,... learning the Ukrainian ... language". Although the term "learnt" itself is vague, it's possible to write "in her twenties" (certainly, if it's not too late).--Microcell (talk) 16:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look, we are working here on the final result, namely the article and its hook. The article is not properly referenced yet. What you said above is not in ref. 5, but in ref. 1 and in quite different phrasing (which does not really say she learned Ukranian by 25). Worse is that she studied in Kharkiv as a child, which does imply she knew Ukranian (even if someone proves she studied in a Russian school, she was living in Ukraine). More work needed before this can pass.
- An ALT2 could be ... that Marko Vovchok, a famous Ukrainian writer of the 19th century, was not a native speaker of Ukrainian? but even this needs proper justification (we don't know from the present article state which language she was speaking in her family) Materialscientist (talk) 05:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hm... "learnt at the age of 25" (i.e. in 1858) is a corollary of "From 1851 till 1858 she lived in Chernihiv,... learning the Ukrainian ... language". Although the term "learnt" itself is vague, it's possible to write "in her twenties" (certainly, if it's not too late).--Microcell (talk) 16:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- An ALT1 could be something like ... that Marko Vovchok, a famous Ukrainian writer of the 19th century, was not a native speaker of Ukrainian and learnt it only at the age of 25? But, we need to reference this and other facts of the article (I don't see support for "learning Ukranian at 25 yro" yet; it is not about number of references, but about what they actually say and where do they come from). Russian or Ukrainian is fine, but I would prefer on-line sources please. BTW, you certainly know that Ukrainian version of this article is more elaborate and is easy to translate, but the key point is to confirm the facts. Materialscientist (talk) 00:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Goring-by-Sea
- ... that Hans Feibusch's Christ in Majesty mural at St Mary's Church, Goring-by-Sea was opposed by traditionalists, who took their case to a consistory court?
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about the use of the word "traditionalist": the reference is hidden behind a wall, but if it doesn't use that specific word it shouldn't be used. It would be preferable if the specific objections were recounted. Mangoe (talk) 16:35, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- The quote from the source is: "opposition from traditionalists at diocesan advisory committee [was] resolved by George Bell presiding in his own consistory court". If Worthing Library holds the Ecclesiastical Law Journal, I will be able to add more details from the other source referenced as well. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 17:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sadly it does not take that journal, but here is an ALT using info from another newly acquired source and avoiding that wording:
- ALT1: ... that opponents of Hans Feibusch's "violently masculine and brutal" Christ in Majesty mural at St Mary's Church, Goring-by-Sea took their case to a consistory court? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 23:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Looks OK, and thanks to Hassocks for those follow-up points. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:51, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
List of Nelson Cricket Club professionals
- ... that a number of Test match cricketers have represented Nelson Cricket Club, including Learie Constantine, Kapil Dev and Steve Waugh?
Created by BigDom (talk). Nominated by BigDom (talk) at 20:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Rancho Monserate
- ... that the historic adobe hacienda built by Tomás Alvarado on the eastern third of Rancho Monserate in California is now the nineteenth hole lounge of the Rancho Monserate Country Club?
Created by Emargie (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 18:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Kaitlyn Maher
- ... that since finishing in the top ten on the third series of America's Got Talent, Kaitlyn Maher has continued to sing publicly and played the voice of Tiny in the film Santa Buddies?
Created by Pga1965 (talk). Nominated by J Milburn (talk) at 12:24, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I changed the redundant "top ten in the final ten" to "top ten". Art LaPella (talk) 03:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship
- ... that the New Japan Pro Wrestling-owned IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship was defended twice in the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) promotion, while it was held by TNA wrestlers?
5x expanded by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self nom at 09:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 7
Reşadiye shooting
- ... that the recent ambush which killed seven soldiers in Reşadiye, Turkey, was the deadliest attack in more than a decade?
Created by Candlewicke (talk). Nominated by Candlewicke (talk) at 18:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- This is in line with what the sources say, but it's rather vague, and I'm not sure what exactly they are referring to. The NY Times says it is the deadliest in "the region", the Turkish General Staff simply that it is the "biggest since the 1990s". However, there was another, bigger PKK attack in April somewhere else in Turkey. Ucucha 01:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Schäffer affair
- ... that the plans for the Schäffer affair included a full blown naval assault on the rest of the Hawaiian Islands?
Created Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 03:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Unusual case: this article is a split from Georg Anton Schäffer, which was written by Bradjamesbrown and featured on the main page on December 7, 2009. However, because of a technical error, the talk of Georg Anton Schäffer article wasn't DYK-tagged and thus the nominator might not know it was featured. Thus the content is "new", but not original, and has already been promoted on the main page, thus my vote is no. Materialscientist (talk) 09:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree this is not content that is new to the article mainspace. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on December 6
German art
- ... that German art includes the Venus of Hohle Fels, at over 35,000 years old apparently the oldest sculpture of the human form?
5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Johnbod (talk) at 04:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Expansion & referencing continues, but this is a summary style survey article. Johnbod (talk) 04:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Something should be done here as this nom will soon hit the bottom of the page: potentially great article, but is must be completed (in some form) before launching it to the main page. At least major facts and paragraphs should be referenced. Materialscientist (talk) 08:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- The article could certainly do with more references. Personally though, I would be inclined to make an exception to our usual approach in the spirit of WP:IAR, as in spite of the shortage of refs, it's a very nice article of the WP:SUMMARY type and Johnbod knows his stuff. There is very little risk in this case that the article contains factually incorrect material. All the same I think we should wait until it hits the bottom of the page to give Johnbod a little more time to add refs before we promote. Gatoclass (talk) 04:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Gatoclass and left a PS at Johnbod's talk page encouraging more refs. hamiltonstone (talk) 05:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for these kind words! I've been away but can now add some more. I think the main framework, at a roughly appropriate & consistent level of detail, is mostly there, apart from post WW2 (so a bit of addition there would be welcome). For my money it is not the "major facts" that especially need refs, but the rare bits of detailed info, & that is the path I've tried to follow, while giving chapter refs for the broader periods. Fortunately the articles linked to are overall not in too bad shape, and there is no requirement to ref Subject-specific common knowledge, which much of this article is, unless it is challenged. Johnbod (talk) 22:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- As you can see, the original picture you suggested is gone here because it was fair use. Could you suggest an alternative hook with associated image, so that it can still be promoted as a lead hook? Ucucha 22:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, will get one. Johnbod (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for these kind words! I've been away but can now add some more. I think the main framework, at a roughly appropriate & consistent level of detail, is mostly there, apart from post WW2 (so a bit of addition there would be welcome). For my money it is not the "major facts" that especially need refs, but the rare bits of detailed info, & that is the path I've tried to follow, while giving chapter refs for the broader periods. Fortunately the articles linked to are overall not in too bad shape, and there is no requirement to ref Subject-specific common knowledge, which much of this article is, unless it is challenged. Johnbod (talk) 22:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Gatoclass and left a PS at Johnbod's talk page encouraging more refs. hamiltonstone (talk) 05:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- The article could certainly do with more references. Personally though, I would be inclined to make an exception to our usual approach in the spirit of WP:IAR, as in spite of the shortage of refs, it's a very nice article of the WP:SUMMARY type and Johnbod knows his stuff. There is very little risk in this case that the article contains factually incorrect material. All the same I think we should wait until it hits the bottom of the page to give Johnbod a little more time to add refs before we promote. Gatoclass (talk) 04:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Something should be done here as this nom will soon hit the bottom of the page: potentially great article, but is must be completed (in some form) before launching it to the main page. At least major facts and paragraphs should be referenced. Materialscientist (talk) 08:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools'). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
Articles for December 24 – Christmas Eve
Ndocciata
- ... that Christmas is traditionally celebrated in Molise, Italy, specifically in the city of Agnone, with a torchlight parade known as Ndocciata? (2006 event pictured)
- Comment: This usually takes place on December 24, Christmas Eve. --PFHLai (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Created by Stundra (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 10:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sure. It's good to keep things "short and sweet". Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 06:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Articles for December 25 – Christmas Day
Benji's Very Own Christmas Story
- ... that the Benji Christmas special Benji's Very Own Christmas Story was nominated for an Emmy Award in 1979?
Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 12:05, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Forgot to say - if approved, keep this one for Christmas. Miyagawa (talk) 12:06, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Christmas Scandal
- ... that "Christmas Scandal", an episode of NBC's comedy series Parks and Recreation, marked the last in a string of acclaimed guest performances by stand-up comedian Louis C.K.?
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 22:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Note: There is a picture that could be used, but I didn't include it since there appeared to be enough hooks with photos already proposed for Christmas Day... — Hunter Kahn (c) 22:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Open Christmas Letter
- ... that, though the United Kingdom was at war in late 1914, Emily Hobhouse wrote an Open Christmas Letter addressed "To the Women of Germany and Austria", signed by 100 other British women?
- ALT1:... that Emily Hobhouse wrote an Open Christmas Letter which sought to extend the hand of peace from the women of the United Kingdom "To the Women of Germany and Austria" despite World War I?
- ALT2:... that Helen Bright Clark was one of the first British women to sign the Open Christmas Letter which sought to extend the hand of peace "To the Women of Germany and Austria" despite World War I?
- Comment: The ALT2 suggestion is a combined double DYK which can be used for the two DYK suggestions involving Helen Bright Clark and Open Christmas Letter in case there is an overabundance of Christmas-related DYK entries. Binksternet (talk) 22:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Fountain Inn, Ashurst
- ... that the video for Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmastime was filmed at the Fountain Inn (pictured) in Ashurst, West Sussex?
- Comment: I'll try for a 5x expansion and destubbification of Ashurst, West Sussex as well.
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Christmas cookies
- ... that Christmas cookies can trace their origin to recipes from Medieval Europe?
5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Nominated by Miyagawa (talk) at 00:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- To be saved for Christmas. Miyagawa (talk) 00:52, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- Don't forget to mention Tirggel from Switzerland. (e.g. ) We had them for DYK last X'mas. --PFHLai (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Eggnog Riot
- ... that though not court-martialed, one of the participants in the Eggnog Riot at the United States Military Academy on 24–25 December 1826 was future Confederate President Jefferson Davis?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Nominated by Miller17CU94 (talk) at 20:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Scrooge (1913 film)
- ... that the 1913 film Scrooge was the first time that British actor Seymour Hicks played the role of Ebenezer Scrooge in film, the other being Scrooge in 1935?
Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 20:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- It meets the basic criteria, but a few things to consider: 1. To show that these were indeed the first and second times he played the role, the reference should point to the actor biography page on IMDb, not the film page. I've fixed this. 2. Consider using proper Template:Citation or one of the :Cite templates (book, web, news) instead of simple links. 3. The External links are just duplications of the references, and are probably redundant. 4. Template:Infobox film is useful. Lampman (talk) 18:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, from how I understood it, we should not use imdb as a source for the hook at all, since it's not a reliable source. I have replaced it with a reliable source found on Google Books. Regards SoWhy 23:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, the reliability of IMDb is a perennial issue, prior discussion can be found here. My take is that it's fine for credits, though it's not to be trusted for biographical information or trivia. Though your source seems reliable, it doesn't really say that this was the second time Hicks had played the part, does it? This is where IMDb comes in handy. Lampman (talk) 03:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'd say we should not use a site like imdb if more reliable sources can be used instead. For example, if you want a source to confirm that he played it twice, you can use this book or this one. Regards SoWhy 10:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Scrooge, or, Marley's Ghost
- ... that the 1901 film Scrooge, or, Marley's Ghost is the oldest surviving film adaptation of Charles Dickens' 1843 novel A Christmas Carol?
Created by Jack1956 (talk). Nominated by Jack1956 (talk) at 12:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Again, meets the criteria, but please see comments above. Lampman (talk) 18:47, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Actually the source says "earliest surviving", so there might be a earlier known version. I have changed the hook to reflect this. Regards SoWhy 23:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Actually (not to over-use that word) the source goes on to call it the "first cinematic excursion into Dickens' most popular tale", which seems to be an acknowledgement that it's the first known version of the work. But your version is fine too. Lampman (talk) 03:33, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
- I would prefer oldest known in the hook, rather than oldest surviving...there is no evidence there was an older version. Jack1956 (talk) 09:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
David Christmas
- ... that in 2000, Indian Test cricketer Sourav Ganguly took the wicket of Lincolnshire's 'Father' Christmas?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 16:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Age, length, hook ref all OK. hamiltonstone (talk) 22:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
A Dog Named Christmas
- ... that the 2009 television movie A Dog Named Christmas was based on a novel by Greg Kincaid, who said his family hated the story when he originally wrote it?
Created by Rej5y7 (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 06:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, source, and hook verified. LittleMountain5 00:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Peace Candle
- ... that former heavyweight boxing champion Larry Holmes expects this year to light the Peace Candle (pictured), a candle-like structure erected every Christmas season in Easton, Pennsylvania?
- Comment: I've never done a DYK for a special occasion date, so sorry if I've handled it wrong at all. Please note, Holmes is supposed to flip the switch on November 27, so I figure after that time I can change it to past tense. Does that work? If not, I can come up with an alt, but I'll be gone for the next three or four days for the holiday, so I can handle it when I get back...
Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 04:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Length, date, sources, image, and hook all check out. Changing to past tense tomorrow sounds good to me. LittleMountain5 Happy Thanksgiving! 18:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- This report:[1] doesn't mention anything about Holmes taking part in the lighting. In fact it was Judge Jack Panella who won the auction to light the candle, and he only expressed an intention to ask Holmes to participate. Unless documentation can be found that Holmes was actually there, a new hook must be found (which shouldn't be hard; it's an interesting subject.) Lampman (talk) 20:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good catch, notified the nominator. LittleMountain5 22:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry guys, I'm not used to checking the Christmas section of the DYK I sort of forgot about this until I got Little Mountain's message! lol. Lampman is right, and I even checked with the local newspaper to confirm: Holmes was invited, but it turns out he did not participate. I'm planning further expansions to this article before Christmas, but here is an alt lead for now...
- ALT1: ... that the Peace Candle, a 106-foot tower-like structure erected each Christmas season in Easton, Pennsylvania, is said to be the largest non-wax Christmas candle in the United States? — Hunter Kahn (c) 00:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- That works: offline sources accepted AGF. LittleMountain5 17:36, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation
- ... that the swing group Big Bad Voodoo Daddy (pictured) performed music for a special Christmas episode of Phineas and Ferb?
- Comment: Seeing that Jerk de Soleil thing on DYK this morning, and the fact that we finally have a future episode of this show with actual press coverage beforehand, is a great opportunity. It was either this, or saying that they think its going to be a holiday classic.
Created by ViperSnake151 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook verified. I'm saving this one for December 25 (Christmas Day) hooks. MuZemike 18:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, with the title "change" (noting that most sources now omit the "'s" from the title, I'm just gonna make a little adjustment to my hook proposal. ViperSnake151 Talk 02:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Helen Bright Clark
- ... that Helen Bright Clark was one of more than 100 signers of an "Open Christmas Letter" written at the end of 1914 as a plea for peace among the women of the world?
Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 06:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
See also
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