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April 10

April 10, 2024 (2024-04-10) (Wednesday)

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April 9

April 9, 2024 (2024-04-09) (Tuesday)

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RD:R. M. Veerappan

Article: R. M. Veerappan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Politician and Film Maker needs references Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change ruling in Switzerland

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Article: Verein KlimaSeniorinnen Schweiz v. Switzerland (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The European Court of Human Rights rules that climate change prevention is a human right. (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
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  • Oppose - Article is one sentence long ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 17:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on article length, but generally support this as significant. Masem (t) 17:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • To add this affects all eu member states and not just limited to Switzerland. — Masem (t) 18:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Council of Europe states, not just EU. But agree on significance; shame that the premature nomination means that any half-decent article that may emerge 12 or 24 hrs down the line will have a starting handicap of half a dozen opposes to overcome. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • I have some rudimentary knowledge in this area that I am going to try to hit tonight to provide background and thus fill in the case basics but can't promise anything. — Masem (t) 20:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose article is 1 sentence long, will need to be expanded. Editor 5426387 (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality As mentioned previously, article is a very short stub. WOuld need to be greatly expanded on before being considered. ~~mAyLiNgOeEd (Talk to me!) (My contributions to Wikipedia📜) 20:02, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality as it’s a stub. The Kip 21:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Someone just needs to translate the German article, which is quite decent: de:Klimaseniorinnen Schweiz. Schwede66 22:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The German article is about the plaintiffs, not the lawsuit. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is titled as if the scope were to be the plaintiffs, but it has more on the case and reactions to it than the organisation. Schwede66 23:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on significance, oppose on quality. Article needs very substantial work. AusLondonder (talk) 22:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • EXPANDED I have spent the last hour to expand it out, though I'm not diving into reaction kudzu. --Masem (t) 01:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability but the article still needs improvement before it can be posted, particularly in the reactions section. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Irish Taoiseach

Articles: Simon Harris (talk · history · tag) and Taoiseach (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Simon Harris becomes the new (and youngest) Taoiseach of Ireland after Leo Varadkar's sudden resignation. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Simon Harris becomes the youngest Taoiseach of Ireland after Leo Varadkar's resignation.
News source(s): The Guardian
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Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: There were two nominations at ITN already (one for Varadkar's resignation, one for Harris' nomination) and both had the consensus to wait until today. ITN/R as new executive head of state. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose on quality Simon Harris has some citation needed tags and I've added a failed verification check based on a cursory glance of the article. Taoiseach is correctly orange tagged for more sources. If Harris' article is fixed, then that could be posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality per Joseph. And I would remove the mention that he is the youngest Taoiseach. It is trivial and irrelevant information for practical purposes. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:04, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There's no real reason not to include it since we have to post the change anyways. I'd phrase it like "Simon Harris becomes the youngest Taoiseach of Ireland" though, excising the "new (and". BSMRD (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I still think it is unnecessary information. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:58, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle once article issues are closed This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) XZ Utils backdoor

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Stale. The Kip 21:48, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: XZ Utils backdoor (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A maliciously introduced backdoor in the Linux utility xz within the liblzma library is found. The issue has been assigned a CVSS score of 10.0, the highest possible score. (Post)
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now we have a good enough article on the event itself. I am not much experienced with ITN, so kindly feel free to update/change the blurb as necessary. —usernamekiran (talk) 16:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Stale - The correct date for this nomination would had been the 29 March unfortunately so it's stale as far as ITN is concerned. -- KTC (talk) 17:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per KTC, article is stale ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 17:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose — Not significant. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 18:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Stale as this happened on 29 March, which is older than last of the current front page blurbs (1 April). Joseph2302 (talk) 19:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

April 8

April 8, 2024 (2024-04-08) (Monday)

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RD: Ralph Puckett

Article: Ralph Puckett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Medal of Honor Winner.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bill Gunter

Article: Bill Gunter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tallahassee Democrat
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Florida politician from back in the day. Needs work. Curbon7 (talk) 20:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted as blurb) RD/Blurb: Peter Higgs

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Article: Peter Higgs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Nobel prize winning theoretical physicist Peter Higgs (pictured in 2013) dies at the age of 94. (Post)
News source(s): Guardian, BBC
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nobel winning physist whose namesake is part of the Higgs boson particle. Article looks in high quality shape. I am hesitant to call for a blurb for this though. Masem (t) 16:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - great looking article ✈ mike_gigs talkcontribs 17:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - good quality, would support a blurb. Polyamorph (talk) 17:12, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - One of the key figures in this field. I’ve added a blurb as think he meets notability for one. yorkshiresky (talk) 17:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - The Higgs boson is a very important discovery of the 21st century in terms of science. Lukt64 (talk) 17:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb. Higgs boson particle is worldwide known. If we are ever going to blurb a scientist, this should be just the case to do it. BilboBeggins (talk) 17:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb. Article is fine. Black Kite (talk) 17:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - article is okay, significant physicist. PhilKnight (talk) 18:37, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - A monumental figure in the field of theoretical physics. --TheDutchViewer (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb This is a clear-cut case, and the article looks fine.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:54, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb Top of his field, article in good shape and his discoveries are popular/noted worldwide. Good case for a blurb (regardless of age). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 20:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull Death has no immediate consequences and is not notable in manner. We are already far too liberal with death blurbs. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support - why even bother, orbitalbuzzsaw? There's no way this will be pulled at this point. --RockstoneSend me a message! 23:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull Name any Physics conference, professional sports match or equivalent thing in other areas which mourns the death of Higgs, then I'll support. Didgogns (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull blurb I do agree that most death blurbs are a mistake and this is why we have RD. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb I'm fine with getting rid of death blurbs, but while they exist in their current iteration this qualifies as someone who is at the absolute top of their field. Curbon7 (talk) 01:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support blurb. It's very easy to see how Higgs meets the currently generally-accepted threshold of "at the top of their respective field." And for the record, I agree with this generally-accepted criteria. But the only reason why I felt the need to !vote at all was the sudden pull !votes from editors that want a different criteria. As I've said before, it bothers me how every RD-as-a-blurb discussion becomes a forum where editors debate what they think the criteria should be. No one individual blurb nomination will ever be the place where that issue gets settled once and for all. Right now, there exists an informal understanding that "the top of one's respective field" is the criteria we tend to go by these days. A very vocal minority wishing for a stricter criteria or a permanent end to posting deaths as blurbs expresses dissatisfaction with this every time one of these gets posted, but always to no avail as they're still the minority at this time. If we ever want to get a formal criteria to put the issue to bed once and for all, the only place where that's going to happen is the talk page, not here. So as Rockstone said, why even bother?  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 01:53, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: War in Sudan (2023–present)

Article: War in Sudan (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: Add timeline as well. Continuation of last weeks discussion that had consensus but with admin opposition. Lukt64 (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support the proposal to link both the article and the timeline, e.g. "War in Sudan (timeline), that seemed to have consensus in the Mar. 31 discussion; I don't know why it wasn't posted. Consensus is not a vote, of course, but 14 in favor and 3 against seems pretty cut and dry. DecafPotato (talk) 20:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Again, ongoing is for a constant stream of blurb-worthy events that would clog ITN if they were all added. If we were to add this, we might as well add every armed conflict. This is not getting a sufficient amount of media attention, and a relatively updated article isn't enough. ITN is not a war ticker. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 21:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ITN is NOT a war ticker, but war is the #1 thing being covered in the news right now. Lukt64 (talk) 23:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find a single front page headline on Sudan in any media outlet. The significance isn't there PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support inasmuch as we did it with Ukraine, plus earlier consensus on 31 March This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 21:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Not seeing the consistent substantial updates to the timeline article that Ongoing demands. The updates are daily, but they are very short (ie RSF does x, SAF claims y, etc). DarkSide830 (talk) 22:33, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with the timeline - Previous proposal had consensus, admin opposition is not a supervote. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 22:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it wasn't admin opposition. The article is not being updated sufficiently for ongoing. The timeline is a ticker of trivial events. Stephen 23:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot bite my tongue on this one. I acknowledge you probably did not intend it badly, but the most recent updates to the timeline talk about various massacres/battles which have killed hundreds of innocent people. Just because the victims come from a war-torn country like Sudan and there is less detail about the exact circumstances of their deaths, does not render these peoples brutal deaths a "ticker of trivial events"... I think we should be sensitive about our choice of words here, especially when talking about these sorts of global issues. FlipandFlopped ツ 01:06, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that this is an absolutely horrifying conflict, with an immense human toll. However, without sounding like a heartless monster, there is no such policy as 'WP:MINIMUMDEATHS', and there being casualties and massacres in a war zone, as awful as it is, I don't think indicates an excessive amount of notability. There are many armed conflicts in the world; people are being tortured and kidnapped by Mexican cartels as we speak, ISIS is still committing atrocities in Syria. There are detailed and updated timeline articles for these wars. But at the end of the day, this is In The News, and I think our standards for notability go beyond just posting tragedies of a certain scale. He could have phrased it better, but I agree that there doesn't seem to be anything exceptional about Sudan compared to many other conflicts that make it fit for ongoing. Just my opinion, I don't mean to trivialise these events. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An admin thinking the timeline is a ticker of trivial events (a subjective opinion, and not one that appears to be consensus) is very much "admin opposition". Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:22, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By the time it was autoarchived, a consensus of 14:2 believed the updates to the relevant target articles were sufficient to post (a couple editors implied they opposed but never !voted, even accounting for them it was near unanimous). It was 14:1 when I marked it as ready; you disagreed and unmarked it as such and allowed it to be archived. I don't think you were being malicious at all, I just think you may want to be more cautious about overriding consensus in the future. Despite you technically not !voting, it was clear throughout the discussion how you would have !voted, so it's fair to say you were an involved editor when unilaterally deciding it wasn't ready after all. Just to be clear, I'm absolutely not trying to attack your character or your judgment or dogpile on you or make you feel bad, I just think this was a misstep and I hope you'll understand why some editors feel that way.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with the timeline per Chaotic Enby. This should have already been posted, as I believe there was already a prior consensus to post. FlipandFlopped ツ 01:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support with timeline as there are frequent and significant updates Fileyfood500 (talk) 02:39, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with timeline - per above. The conflict is still one of the most significant wars going on right now, and the timeline article is being updated on the regular. To be brutally honest, I don't quite understand why it was even removed in the first place. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk | contribs) 07:41, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with timeline - As Chaotic Enby already said, there was already clear consensus to post last time but it was supervoted down. No disrespect intended towards the admin in question, I don't think they had any malicious intentions, but this is an accurate description of what happened the way I see it. And it remains true that Timeline of the War in Sudan (2023–present) is getting frequent and significant updates. And yes, these are updates that would be individually blurbworthy had it not been for the fact that they're part of a long and protracted war: people being killed in the triple digits daily, significant offensives being started, etc.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 17:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support with timeline per @Bucket of sulfuric acid's above arguments (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 18:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. (again) Strange that this was not promoted based on the previous clear consensus. I just fixed the two big red errors among the 448 references. (§) I'm not sure that including text via an extract template is ideal, as one has to really dig to find referencing problems in the daughter article, whereas ideally there would be a summary in the section included in the parent article... -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 18:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment another battle of Wad Madani has begun. Battle of Wad Madani (2024) Lukt64 (talk) 21:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
High support with timeline and overall status. I'm the person who has been announcing a lot of the things happening in this conflict in the last few days. It's been growing especially around Khartoum and a large battle in Wad Madani started today. Along with the dengue crisis within the capital and many other things. I don't even know why this war was taken out of current events. NYMan6 (talk) 22:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Eclipse

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Article: Solar eclipse of April 8, 2024 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A total solar eclipse is visible across North America. (Post)
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Last total sun eclipse till late 2026. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:00, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for now Appropriately orange tagged. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Have we ever posted an eclipse before? HiLo48 (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's listed on ITNR under celestial events NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 00:28, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, see here as an example of an eclipse that was previously posted to ITN (there are a couple more examples mentioned there, too). 92.18.110.33 (talk) 02:26, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    yayy 59.99.6.230 (talk) 10:07, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm surprised it would be on ITRN - but it's only total solar eclipses that are ITNR. On average, only about 1/3 of eclipses are ever total. On average, there's a solar eclipse every 5 months or so, but it's only total every 16 months or so. So I guess we only have to debate quality. Nfitz (talk) 02:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality (orange tag to fix). Support, issues have been fixed! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 02:31, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It's happening soon and is all over the media, and live streams have already started. The orange banner tag, which was there for six years, was quite ridiculous as it's trivial to find reliable coverage of the track and we even have a nice animation (above) thanks to NASA. Everyone who complained about this without doing something about it should please read WP:JUSTDOIT. Anyway, the most important point is that it's better to report this before it happens rather than afterwards, so that readers get a reminder to take a look for themselves and so don't miss it. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:30, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah. We always seem to post astronomical events well after they're over, with the snarky undertone of "and, ha ha ha, you missed it". —Cryptic 09:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      That is true. If we don't post it today then I think the item will be too stale and not useful enough to put up. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah, would be great to post it before it happens! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 16:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support article is fine, it's WP:ITNR and thus have marked as ready. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support It's happening soon and is all over the media as @Andrew Davidson said (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 11:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the article is in a good shape and it is getting extensive media coverage. PrinceofPunjabTALK 14:17, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support timely ITN we should post this now. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The article looks decent. Unnamelessness (talk) 14:46, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Looks fine. Just post it now. Shanes (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted — Ingenuity (talk • contribs) 16:41, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am prepping File:Solar eclipse of April 2024 from Indianapolis.jpg for image protection as an image of the eclipse taken at totality, now that it's happened.

April 7

April 7, 2024 (2024-04-07) (Sunday)

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RD: Karen Yarbrough

Article: Karen Yarbrough (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WBBM, CBS News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American politician who served for Cook County, Illinois. The article needs work, especially with several unsourced paragraphs and a couple short sections which should either be expanded or merged. ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 01:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mozambique boat disaster

Article: 2024 Mozambique boat disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A ferry carrying approximately 130 people sinks off the coast of Mozambique, leaving at least 100 dead. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, France24
Credits:

Article updated

Shipwrecks that kill 100+ people aren't exactly run of the mill events, so I'm a little surprised this wasn't nominated. Article needs a lot of work, though. The Kip 23:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support on notability. I considered nominating this, but the article is a bit stubby. Natg 19 (talk) 23:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support The article on the boat tragedy is unfortunately a bit short, but the who-what-where-when-why is there. Bremps... 01:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jerry Grote

Article: Jerry Grote (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

There are dead refs to fix. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:06, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They're all from the same magazine, Baseball Digest, I think simply removing the links and making them offline sources suffices. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Muboshgu: Doesn't that go against WP:KDL? Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, I've put them back. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted combined blurb) 2024 NCAA Division I women's/men's basketball championship games

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Articles: 2024 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game (talk · history · tag) and 2024 NCAA Division I men's basketball championship game (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the South Carolina Gamecocks win the women's championship (MOP Kamilla Cardoso pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In NCAA Division I basketball, the South Carolina Gamecocks win the women's championship (MOP Kamilla Cardoso pictured) and the UConn Huskies win the men's championship.
News source(s): CBS Sports (women's) / Associated Press (men's)
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Men's championship (tomorrow night) is also ITN/R. Blurb will be updated with men's winner after that game but no reason not to go ahead and post the women. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Article looks in great shape. Obviously some "Aftermath" content is forthcoming, but what has been written looks to be well-written and sourced. Nice to see a sports article in good shape this soon after it's conclusion. DarkSide830 (talk) 22:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait post combined blurb when the men's tournament is completed. Natg 19 (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support The article is detailed and sourced, with detailed box scores Fileyfood500 (talk) 22:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Post now, update with the men's result tomorrow. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Article is in great shape, although it might need some small fixes, it's good enough for ITN.
  • Support, article is well-written and well-cited. Can post this one now and combine with the men's blurb tomorrow. The Kip 03:02, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted—Bagumba (talk) 04:04, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Nomination updated for men's final - altblurb added. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The men's final article still has two unsourced paragraphs. Black Kite (talk) 03:57, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Black Kite Just added sources to both of those. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD:Joe Kinnear

Article: Joe Kinnear (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, National World
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Football Manager. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 6

April 6, 2024 (2024-04-06) (Saturday)

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2024 Slovak presidential election

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Article: 2024 Slovak presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Peter Pellegrini is elected President of Slovakia. (Post)
News source(s): AP News, Reuters
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Not as important as the Prime Minister of Slovakia, but notable enough. Classicwiki (talk) 01:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support in principle Not ITNR, but this election is quite significant both regionally and internationally due to the NATO-Russia conflict; Pellegrini's election gives Fico more legitimacy and cements Slovakia as a firmly pro-Russian country within NATO. The campaign section is orange-tagged for expansion. Curbon7 (talk) 02:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support not ITN/R as above but a national election nonetheless This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Curbon; we also have precedent from posting the Czech presidential election last year, where the opposite, but comparably significant geopolitical outcome occurred. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support got quite a lot attention in media Braganza (talk) 05:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support due to the fact that the elections are nationwide and he is elected directly by the people. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:36, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We publish more than enough ITN/R politicians and so don't need secondary ones like this too. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality campaign section is correctly orange tagged as needing expansion. Aftermath section should also be expanded, since almost all of the English-language coverage about this election is related to his pro-Russian policies, which have one sentence on them (which isn't enough of a representation). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the lack of content in the campaign section and the underdeveloped state of the article seems somewhat contradictory to the above claims that this election was particularly notable even in spite of it not being ITNR. FlipandFlopped ツ 01:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Joseph E. Brennan

Article: Joseph E. Brennan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Working on expanding it – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - needs more details on death. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 00:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Personal life section needs expansion and more sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 08:14, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you can find any, you're welcome to present those sources and details. I've looked. All I see in Google searching and Newspapers.com is he lived on Munjoy Hill, had a wife named Connie, and two children. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
adding source for spouse's name and number of children would be sufficient. PrinceofPunjabTALK 04:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I added some additional details to the personal life section about his children. The article is of sufficient quality. I also note the exact cause of death is not available online, likely for privacy reasons. Given he died at 89, I do not think having the exact cause of death in the article is a prerequisite for being posted to RD. FlipandFlopped ツ 01:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support the article is now ready to be posted. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:07, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Electoral history section is unreferenced. Stephen 23:38, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Ecuador-Mexico diplomatic crisis

Article: 2024 raid on the Mexican embassy in Ecuador (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador after the latter storms its embassy in Quito. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador in response to Ecuadorian police forcibly entering the Mexican embassy in Quito.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Mexico breaks its diplomatic relationship with Ecuador in response to Ecuadorian police forcibly entering the Mexican embassy in Quito.
News source(s): Washington Post, El Pais
Credits:

Article updated

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ixtal (talk • contribs) 11:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Mexico seems to have completely broken off any relations with Ecuador. That's pretty major. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for events to escalate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 14:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They broke diplomatic relations. Isn't that enough escalation? They won't (let's hope) go to an actual war over this. Cambalachero (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support given that it's already a full breaking of diplomatic relationships, we can't really predict whether there will be further escalation but that enough is already notable. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support A pretty big event and Mexico have broken its relations. We posted 2023 Canada–India diplomatic crisis [3] even though there was no official breaking of relations between those two countries. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's no dedicated article and not much of an update. Coverage doesn't seem significant. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose' solely due to lack of a dedicated article. The incident is quite serious and almost without modern precedent. It warrants an article, and a blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:48, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is zero requirement for a standalone article, only that either we have a new article of reasonable length or that there has been a significant update to an existing article. I am on the edge of supporting this on significance, but in terms of quality there would likely need to be at least a few more paragraphs in the target article (in addition to overall article quality) to support. — Masem (t) 16:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support big international incident. The article is properly updated. Cambalachero (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, major international incident - like the Syria airstrike, one nation violating the diplomatic territory of another is significant. The Kip 18:49, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as this a relatively important event given that Mexico is a regional power. Would prefer some updates to article and would like to see if this escalates but not opposed to posting it. Ion.want.uu (talk) 20:00, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Collapsing derailment by an IP editor blocked for appalling racism  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose agree that no dedicated article is required but the section in the relations article is insufficient providing no background on Glas and almost no specifics about the raid (timing, causalities, notifications, etc). Should be an easy support if the target is improved slightly. Also LOL Mexico caring about national sovereignty after facilitating a full scale invasion of the United States for decades. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 19:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A full scale invasion? Last time they fought was nearly two centuries ago, and the US started it by annexing Texas... Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have a feeling they're referring to something quite contemporary. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly, Mexico refused to recognize Texan independence, nor their request for annexation by the United States, invaded a foreign country and lost half their territory for their trouble. Of course, if Polk had done his job 180 years ago we'd be in sovereign control of the entire continent and not dealing with the infestation we're dealing with today. Oh well. --24.125.98.89 (talk) 01:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I doubt you're describing an infestation of bugs. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait, weren't you the IP blocked for one month for repeatedly saying racist things about Latin Americans already? Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 01:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I intended to keep these suspicions private, but with the above remarks I’ll say it: the IP in question’s behavior quite reminds me of the CBANned user LaserLegs and I’ll be taking both the above remarks and said suspicions to ANI shortly. The Kip 02:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've created a discussion about him on ANI, looking back on his contributions he has a history of appallingly racist comments, including this one against a fellow editor. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    LL or not (the typing style certainly is familiar), those sorts of unhinged racist remarks make me wonder if it'd be a good idea to require autoconfirmed status to comment at ITN/C.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think that's a little bit of an extreme measure, many contributions from unconfirmed editors are useful, only a minority are like this guy. Already too much gatekeeping on Wikipedia atm PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's fair. I won't dwell on that suggestion since it's not related to the blurb nomination anyways. I'll also collapse this whole thing just to make it easier to read the real conversation.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well there certainly is an infestation that some people have been dealing with for the last 200 years... AryKun (talk) 18:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    None of this is relevant to the topic at hand, enough soapboxing PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:50, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    New target is better but still mostly filler. Remember the five sentences rule? Too bad it's not a rule anymore. Wall of reactions flag salad looks terrible and is mostly unncessary. 24.125.98.89 (talk) 01:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Here you go again with your unnecessary and political remark. You made similar remarks under the 2024 Mmamatlakala bus crash discussion here and here. Even though you later deleted your comment, it appears that you like making irrelevant comments and like to use ITN/C as a political fourm like you just did here. PrinceofPunjabTALK 08:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Quality issues resolved to my liking. Switching to support. DarkSide830 (talk) 00:40, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support a big international incident. LiamKorda 07:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also maybe add nicaragua also broke relations. It is more than just a reaction.37.252.92.174 (talk) 16:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Posted There's consensus for altblurb II. Schwede66 05:49, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 5

April 5, 2024 (2024-04-05) (Friday)

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RD: C. J. Snare

Article: C. J. Snare (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American rock singer best known as the lead singer of the band FireHouse.

  • Oppose the entire discography section is unsourced and there is one orange tag. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2024 New Jersey earthquake

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Rather than be a sixth straight oppose vote, I'll go ahead and SNOW this. The Kip 22:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2024 New Jersey earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 4.8 earthquake hits New Jersey, making it the strongest eartkquake to affect the state since 1783. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.fox29.com/news/earthquake-did-you-feel-it-philadelphia-area-shaking
Credits:
Toadette (Let's talk together!) 20:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Little to no damage. No casualties. Seemingly the most consequential thing to happen were the temporary closings of some important pieces of infrastructure but none of these said pieces were damaged at all. An interesting oddity, but not really ITN worthy Kosazhra (talk) 20:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - Would make a good DYK, but absolutely a flash in the pan in news terms. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Unlike the Thailand quake, this was far weaker and there's no significant damage. May be unusual to NYC residents but not to the rest of the world. --Masem (t) 20:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with your argument, but the other quake was in Taiwan, not Thailand, lol. DecafPotato (talk) 21:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above Kcmastrpc (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose no damage, no victims. Alarmed New Yorkers is not ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:08, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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April 4

April 4, 2024 (2024-04-04) (Thursday)

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2024 Chabahar and Rask clashes

Article: 2024 Chabahar and Rask clashes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A terrorist attack in Chabahar and Rask, Iran resulted in the death of 27 individuals, including 11 Iranian security force members and 16 militants. (Post)
News source(s): https://indianexpress.com/article/world/twenty-seven-die-militant-attack-iran-security-forces-9251245/
Credits:

3000MAX (talk) 22:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak oppose Seems notable enough, but the article feels far too short for the front page. The Kip 22:30, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll add a little more details soon, but since the journalism in Iran works under direct harsh governmental surveillance, it's hard to find detailed information on the web to improve the article.
    Also i would be appreciate some help I'm not sure what inbox fits the best. Is there a list of inboxes so i can find the right one? 3000MAX (talk) 23:01, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Probably Template:Infobox military conflict or Template:Infobox military operation. The Kip 23:05, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Or Template:Infobox civilian attack? Stephen 23:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Considering the target of this attack was Iranian security forces and individuals on either side were killed in the ensuing combat, I think military conflict might be the best. The Warrenpoint ambush seems somewhat comparable from an article standpoint. The Kip 23:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on Significance, Oppose on quality the article is not in good shape. It lacks inline citations and is a bit short. But the death toll is significant therefore it should be on the main page. PrinceofPunjabTALK 05:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PrinceofPunjab, @The Kip New details have been added to the article, but I couldn’t delve further due to the scarcity of new and detailed informations. Unfortunately, there hasn’t been much news since the incident occurred, primarily because of the lack of active journalism in the country. 3000MAX (talk) 16:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose part of a bigger conflict and the victims do not appear to be civilians. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:38, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It may be a part of a bigger conflict, but that conflict is not covered by ongoing and we have a blurb about Israeli airstrike in Damascus in which only 2 out of 16 dead were civilians. I didn't know we can only post when deaths are mostly civilians. PrinceofPunjabTALK 15:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per PrinceofPunjab. LiamKorda 07:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Pat Zachry

Article: Pat Zachry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): local12.com, Cincinnati Inquirer
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 17:40, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I've added a few CN tags, though the article isn't far off. The Kip 22:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Kip, I've resolved those. I'll check again to see if there's anything else that slipped past me earlier today. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Gotcha, changing vote to Support. The Kip 22:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The birth date and location are not cited. Flibirigit (talk) 11:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Flibirigit, cited now. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the article seems ready now. LiamKorda 07:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Thomas Gumbleton

Article: Thomas Gumbleton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Catholic Bishop.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Most of the "Early life" section is unsourced. The Kip 22:21, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the article is ready now. LiamKorda 07:26, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Lynne Reid Banks

Article: Lynne Reid Banks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Author.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I've orange-tagged the Works section as most of it has no book ID numbers/references. There's one uncited sentence as well. The Kip 22:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the books section is not ready. LiamKorda 07:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Abu Maria al-Qahtani

Article: Abu Maria al-Qahtani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

One cn tag. PrinceofPunjabTALK 12:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support the article seems good enough. LiamKorda 07:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 3

April 3, 2024 (2024-04-03) (Wednesday)

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(Posted) RD: Kalevi Kiviniemi

Article: Kalevi Kiviniemi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): YLE (in Finnish)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Finnish concert organist, playing concerts at Notre-Dame, St. John the Divine, the bamboo organ in the Philippines and our local church, especially gifted to match music and instruments. I expanded his article back in 2010. Since, it was expanded by other enthusiasts, sadly resulting in a load of unsourced copyvio, and without links. Some works and universities where he gave master classes are commented out until we find a ref, - help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the article is largely fine but I do not like the Organ Era recordings. It has way too many redlinks and has only 3 sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It has the fuga source and the French overview for all (or let's say: most) on top. The diligent match of organs and the repertoire for them that made this player unique shows there best, imho, also his way of not only playing the "grand" instruments but those of historic interest. If it helps I can list them more specifically. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PrinceofPunjab, now each volume has individual sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the article is ready now. PrinceofPunjabTALK 06:03, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewers needed) RD: Gaetano Pesce

Article: Gaetano Pesce (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Designer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Almost ready article is in good shape except the literatures section is unsourced. PrinceofPunjabTALK 07:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Attention needed) RD: John Barth

Article: John Barth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American postmodern writer. Several cn tags. Sincerely, Dilettante 10:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support The article is of high quality and well sourced, and the death is documented and sourced. Fileyfood500 (talk) 23:11, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the awards section and Bibliography needs sources. PrinceofPunjabTALK 13:37, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose still has CN tagsTame Rhino (talk) 02:12, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, sources have been added to both Awards and Bibliography sections, and most {{citation needed}} tags in the article in general have been addressed. Only one remains; though that shouldn't stop this article from being posted. Looks good to go! (Update: MonarchOfTerror, PrinceofPunjab, Tame Rhino) :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 02:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I've not fixed the last citation needed tag so should be good to go. Vladimir.copic (talk) 03:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2024 Taiwan earthquake

Article: 2024 Taiwan earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A 7.4-magnitude earthquake strikes near Hualien City, Taiwan. (Post)
News source(s): [9]
Credits:

– Muboshgu (talk) 01:34, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait for effects to become more clear/article to be expanded further, then support. The Kip 01:47, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The tsunami warning has passed, and while there are some collapsed buildings, it looks like there's no significant fatalities or injuries based on most recent reports. Helps that the epicenter was several miles out from land. --Masem (t) 02:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just adding that the count has been upped to 1 death and 50+ injuries but that's rather tame for a quake of this scale, to the point I still don't think we need to post this. Masem (t) 04:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with this line of thinking. Any large earthquake above 6.5 or 7.0 magnitude with its own article is "in the news" and should be worthy for posting. Natg 19 (talk) 04:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. This earthquake was significant in the region and did damage buildings. Any earthquake over 7.0 where there are people nearby should qualify as a major news story. S-1-5-7 (talk) 05:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just because an earthquake exceeds a threshold should not be reasons to post, since that factor alone doesn't give any weight to notability or long term impacts. It's along the lines of "if a tree fell in the woods...", that simply happening may not generate the sourcing or coverage we could expect if it was a major disaster. — Masem (t) 14:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Article is reasonable now. This is not a "best article" category; it is what is in the news. More details will presumably be added. S-1-5-7 (talk) 05:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: No issues with article and seems ready to be posted. More details can be added to the article as further information is released. Tofusaurus (talk) 06:02, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: The earthquake is already receiving extensive international coverage. Reported casualties are also increasing as time goes on. It is the most powerful earthquake in Taiwan in 25 years. This is definitely noteworthy of an ITN post. Focus should be on article quality at this point. Tofusaurus (talk) 12:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per reasons listed above. —Jarrod Baniqued (he/him) (talk) 06:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose since there's no significant casualties, it happened in the desolate part of the island.3000MAX (talk) 06:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC is reporting seven fatalities, and that the epicentre was within 12 miles of Hualien City, which has a population of nearly 100,000. GenevieveDEon (talk) 06:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
right, the area is not isolated. 3000MAX (talk) 09:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no minimum death toll needed to count something as a disaster. If this was an earthquake was equally sized as this one but in a remote area where there wasn’t much potential to cause any real damage, this would be a more valid point. But this happened in a somewhat populated area where the potential for damage was high. QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait This seems borderline as List of earthquakes in 2024 indicates that there's a mag 7+ earthquake every month on average and so we should focus on the ones with significant impact. The details of this one still seem to be emerging. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support – It has caused considerable damage and rescue efforts are ongoing. Several dozen people remain trapped in buildings. Sounds notable for inclusion.Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 07:38, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Although a magnitude 7+ earthquake happens every month or so on average, this is the second most powerful earthquake of the year, and it did hit a densely populated area rather than the middle of the ocean, and had secondary effects such as a landslide and a small tsunami. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HelloThereQuestionablePerson (talk • contribs) 11:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support significant event, many missing and injured, the casualties are only going to rise over the next several days. Kcmastrpc (talk) 12:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until the impacts of the earthquake become more clear. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:03, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait for the situation to become clear. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 13:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until we have more reports of the impact. Magnitude 7+ earthquakes are common, but this happened in the middle of a fairly large town and there are already several casualties reported with the possibility for many more. Estreyeria (talk) 14:00, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support since around ten people died, making it a significant event. LiamKorda 14:04, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support the death toll cureently stands at 9 and it could increase. We blurbed 2024 Noto earthquake when the death toll was still in the mid single digits. PrinceofPunjabTALK 14:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support The death toll and injury statistics are actively changing and disruptions to city centers and highways would impact trade/tourism/etc. Toroko (the sit of at least 4 deaths) is possibly the most visited national park in Taiwan. Ycleike (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support That over one hundred people are trapped in highway tunnels, with no outside contact established, is grim and disturbing. Rescue attempts guarantee this earthquake is ITN. 128.91.40.237 (talk) 14:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on account of the damage to infrastructure; and, suspension of semiconductor manufacture from some larger plants which could end up affecting the global electronics economy. - AquilaFasciata (talk | contribs) 17:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Consensus to post has been established. Schwede66 18:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) Support. There are 'only' 10 confirmed dead so far, but that number seems bound to rise given there are currently over 100 missing and over 1000 injuries reported. Property damage appears to be extensive. I think this crosses the line into major impacts worth posting. The article is in good shape - quite impressive given the rapidly evolving situation. Modest Genius talk 18:33, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Andrew Davidson: Free promotion for Kato. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 13:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I cropped it for max impact as a thumbnail. Schwede66 16:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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