User talk:Kvng/Archive 10
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Articles for Creation discussion
There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#Review_of_a_reviewer regarding your reviewing for the project. You are welcome to comment or not as you see fit. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Primefac: What you have posted are actions that have been reversed in AfD. You have listed 12 covering a 10 month period. How many mistakes am I allowed? Acceptance criteria is 50% chance of being deleted. I'd argue that reviewers that rarely accept something that is subsequently deleted are avoiding marginal cases (I always review from the back of the queue so am dealing with a lot of these) or are applying a criteria more stringent than AfC policy dictates.
- It seems one sided to not include, in your post, some information about any good work I have done for AfC. How many drafts have I accepted that have been nominated for deletion but not deleted? How many have I accepted in total? How many have I declined? You have included my AfD stats as a 13th piece of evidence as if 73% is a bad stat. Is it? ~Kvng (talk) 19:48, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I am not posting this beacuse I personally feel that you are not doing a good job; I am posting it because there have been multiple requests for your reviewing to be looked at. You are welcome to defend yourself with your statement above; it might convince the other reviewers that you are doing good work and have just made a few mistakes along the way. Primefac (talk) 20:03, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I have taken some of your concerns into account and have included more general information about your reviewing history in the post as well. Primefac (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Thank you for doing that. You have posted anonymous complaints. It would be more fair if complaints were posted directly those who have complained. You mentioned that previous review the reviewer discussions went off the rails. I don't know why you expect a different outcome here and I don't appreciate being injected into to a time-consuming process with a history of bad outcomes. ~Kvng (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I can understand that. I set up this process of the "anonymous complaint" system after the fiasco with Legacypac (and yes, I'll admit that it wasn't my finest hour). I felt that one person with an axe to grind would just create a time-consuming process where no one would ever want to do reviews on the off chance that someone disagreed with them. So, I decided that if enough people complained about a specific editor, there might be something worth looking in to. Clearly the process needs a bit more refinement, as you're right that the overall percentage of issues is relatively minor (though there may be more that come to light). Maybe we shouldn't do reviews of reviewers except in the case where it's clear they're just a complete idiot and have no idea what they're doing... that seems to have worked out pretty well so far. Primefac (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've closed the discussion - you're exactly right, a few issues are not enough to merit this much drama. My apologies for the hassle. Primefac (talk) 00:00, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- I can understand that. I set up this process of the "anonymous complaint" system after the fiasco with Legacypac (and yes, I'll admit that it wasn't my finest hour). I felt that one person with an axe to grind would just create a time-consuming process where no one would ever want to do reviews on the off chance that someone disagreed with them. So, I decided that if enough people complained about a specific editor, there might be something worth looking in to. Clearly the process needs a bit more refinement, as you're right that the overall percentage of issues is relatively minor (though there may be more that come to light). Maybe we shouldn't do reviews of reviewers except in the case where it's clear they're just a complete idiot and have no idea what they're doing... that seems to have worked out pretty well so far. Primefac (talk) 21:20, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Primefac: Thank you for doing that. You have posted anonymous complaints. It would be more fair if complaints were posted directly those who have complained. You mentioned that previous review the reviewer discussions went off the rails. I don't know why you expect a different outcome here and I don't appreciate being injected into to a time-consuming process with a history of bad outcomes. ~Kvng (talk) 21:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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Digital Signal Processing
Hello, I recently edit Digital signal processing article, but you revert my changes [[1]],that was fact statement in Signal Processing which you revert (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 16:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC))
- @Mr.Mani Raj Paul: We like facts but we like verifiable facts better, also need to be able to understand them and if you're going to add something to the WP:LEAD of an article, it should be added first in the body somewhere. ~Kvng (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
rough translations
Just a hint: Usually, when I encounter a draft (or new page) that is in the sort of English produced by Google translate but is otherwise acceptable , such as Pietro Carbone, either I fix it myself, or add a Rough translation tag from Twinkle (which is what I did for this one) The key clue is often the use of inappropriate tenses. Of course, if it's really bad I don't accept if a Draft, or Draftify if an article. It's not useless to add a Rough translation tag--there are some people gradually working on these. DGG ( talk ) 21:07, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. ~Kvng (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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At long last... Trillfendi (talk) 21:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC) |
- Thanks! ~Kvng (talk) 15:03, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello Kvng!
I have updated the draft and added more citations. Please can you review and let me know your feedback. Thank You! Codydberman (talk) 01:42, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Kvng, thanks for looking at this page. I've listed the three best sources of notability on the talk section, please can you review and let me know if you need anything further? Thanks, Cstulip (talk) 08:34, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Cstulip: Except for extenuating circumstances I don't review the same submission more than once. Another reviewer will have a look in due course - may few months due to our current backlog. ~Kvng (talk) 12:48, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
AfD Notice
Just dropping a note to let you know that I've started an AfD for Malaria and the Caribbean to gather more opinions on whether or not the content should be deleted. Your thoughts are, as always, most welcome. Discussion here. Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 21:38, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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NACA Report No. 106
Hi Kvang, I see your point on not using a PROD for this article, but to consider the entire series. Thank you Rogermx (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
- I just noticed that you deprodded Political positions of Fred Thompson too. I agree with your action and reasoning. I'd have done it myself but the topic seemed quite political and I wasn't keen to get embroiled in a tiresome AP dispute so I just put it on my watchlist. Anyway, I noticed that you also placed an {{oldprodfull}} template on the talk page and used its parameters to document the details. I usually place that template too when deprodding though I notice that Twinkle now tends to place it when the prod is first placed. I've tried using the parameters to document the details too but found doing this to be quite slow and tiresome. Do you have any tips or tricks for making this easier, please? Andrew D. (talk) 17:10, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- It is a manual process but a lot of copy-paste. To speed things up I use multiple browser tabs, some macro programming on my keyboard and Ditto clipboard manager. ~Kvng (talk) 19:22, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
Dance Dance Revolution Party Collection PROD notice
Just wanted to say a "thank you!" for being one of the nicest WP:DEPROD users around, everything being explained why or how and even suggesting alternatives. Kudos. Though I don't find your suggestion a great thing, because...it's unsourced. As a WP:V fail (which a policy), it is not a good thing to merge it to (Dance Dance Revolution has no info on the collection). There is another possiblity, redirecting to List of Dance Dance Revolution video games. Problem I have with this is WP:RFD#DELETE Criteria 10 which says "You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met...the target article contains virtually no information on the subject". As a list it just offers a release date of the game, which is some information, but hardly what a reader would be looking for. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 15:25, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- There's not much more information than release date in Dance Dance Revolution Party Collection. Redirecting to List of Dance Dance Revolution video games seems like a very good solution. I have implemented it. Wikipedia is not a directory so if readers are looking for more (unreliable) information on obscure topics like this, they probably should be looking elsewhere. ~Kvng (talk) 19:22, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks again! Just wanted to check with you on what would be the best way to go through, and I agree with the WP:NOTDIRECTORY argument you are giving here! Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:41, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of pending review for article Draft:Francesca Tasini
HiKvng, I´ve posted the sources in the article talk page. Thanks for suggesting it. Can you please also take a look ? Many thanks --Abarin (talk) 19:39, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've commented at Draft talk:Francesca Tasini. The cited sources did not meet WP:GNG. ~Kvng (talk) 20:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Please review Kess Film
Hi Kvng ,I´ve created another article. Do you think it meets the criteria ? Many thanks --Abarin (talk) 22:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC) Hi Kvng . Can you please review Kess Film? Many thanks --Abarin (talk) 16:24, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
- That will need to await its turn. ~Kvng (talk) 23:09, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
revert
I wont revert you...however,not sure why you did this[2]?--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: Can you explain what you were trying to improve with these changes? You didn't leave an edit summary. ~Kvng (talk) 01:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- placing as much information in the infobox makes it easier for our readers(such as the synonym)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 02:25, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: But you also removed the main name from the infobox. Your changes also eliminate the alternate acronyms. ~Kvng (talk) 13:16, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- your correct about the acronyms, my mistake--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:49, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ozzie10aaaa: But you also removed the main name from the infobox. Your changes also eliminate the alternate acronyms. ~Kvng (talk) 13:16, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- placing as much information in the infobox makes it easier for our readers(such as the synonym)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 02:25, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Deprodding compilations
You suggested merging or redirecting when you deprodded a June Christy compilation album. It's a good idea in some cases to merge or redirect. But not here. We usually discourage including compilation albums even in the main discographies and main articles. This is because compilations are usually not significant. Particularly in pop and rock, for example, compilations are usually repetitious, as in a Best of or Greatest Hits album, and provide nothing new or significant or notable. Articles created about those albums, when they have any content, provide nothing new or significant or notable. In fact, creating an article to announce the release of a compilation album appears a lot like advertising to me. The fact is, there are many places that announce these albums, and WP is not in the business of selling or promoting. WP is not the place to go for the latest thing.
Vmavanti (talk) 17:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- When an article is deprodded and you still want to delete it, you need to take it to AfD. Prod is for uncontroversial deletions and this one requires some discussion. I'll be happy to have a look at this argument at AfD. ~Kvng (talk) 21:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
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WP:THREE best sources that establish notability
Dear Kvng, This is just to let you know I've posted three sources in the article talk page Draft:Anita_Andreis as suggested. Thank you for your time! Sincerely, Supraphonic (talk) 11:39, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Kvng. Please review the changes I have made to the notability list and references on Racelle Kooy`s page and let me know what else I can do to speed up the review process. Thanks! --[[User:|CLStarlet]] (talk)
What your really name Ekejija destiny (talk) 08:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
What your really name Ekejija destiny (talk) 08:53, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Ekejija destiny: Thanks for making the improvements. I do not rereview submissions. If you think the issues have been resolved, please resubmit and another reviewer will take another look in due course. ~Kvng (talk) 13:16, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Thoughts on History of Mechanical Engineering?
You approved the article for creation through the process and I believe there was a consensus. Another editor User talk:Polyamorph an hour later reviewed it, promptly destroyed the article, without consulting the talk page and redirected it.
Do you have any thoughts on the matter? I am in discussion with poly on his talk page and have made a section on the Talk:History of mechanical engineering - AH (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
- History of mechanical engineering has been restored. ~Kvng (talk) 21:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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Request on 19:59:48, 9 August 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Jschalow
Good day, I appreciate the time you took to review my article on Joerg Hasford and I reread guidelines for notability and authoritative references. You stated: "No WP:INDEPENDENT sources cited. It is possible the subject is notable based exclusively on his publications but we would like to see an independent assessment of that and I don't find it for this subject on PubMed or Google Scholar."
It seemed to me I covered this with the citations for his awards and his induction as a fellow into the Society of Clinical Trials. The statement on the Society for Clinical Trials page is quite strong: "He has been a leader in the field of cancer leukemia clinical trial research. Together with his coworkers, he developed and validated a prognostic model for chronic myeloid leukemia that is named for him by pooling individual patient data of many trials and prospective studies from around the world. He has contributed significantly to the standards of clinical trials in CML and AML in the German and European Leukemia Networks. He has been very influential in the study of safety of drugs and pharmacoepidemiology. He was one of the first biostatisticians to look at reliably compiled drug dosing history data in light of pharmacometric consequences. He developed new quantitative indices and tailored interventions to improve adherence in RCTs." http://www.sctweb.org/fellow.cfm?id=32
If I just go ahead and quote from the society and award pages, is this enough to strengthen the article or do you think we need more evidence of how well he is regarded in his field? I appreciate your help in improving the article and thank you. -John Schalow
Jschalow (talk) 19:59, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Jschalow: please have a look at WP:NPROF#Criteria and let me know which item(s) apply to this subject and what evidence supports this. ~Kvng (talk) 14:12, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
I have edited and resubmitted the Hasford article. Thank you for pointing me to the criteria list for academics and I think criteria 1, 3 and 8 are met. He has written highly cited works. The significance of his impact on his field is confirmed by his awards and that he was selected to be a Fellow of the Society for Clinical Trials, a prestigious society. He serves on editorial boards, study groups, and commissions. He is quoted in prestigious publications such as Science (AAAS) and gives expert testimony as part of the process of creating legislation for the German government. (Do I need to document these activities in the article?) He served seven years as editor for Europe of the pretigious journal Pharmacoepidemiology and Drug Safety published by John Wiley. Hasford currently is having an impact outside of academia as he leads efforts to create and enforce governmental regulations in Germany and Europe in the area of medical ethics. Wikipedia needs to deepen its coverage of the health fields and I think an article on Hasford helps achieve this. Someone someday can add an article about CML scores such as the Hasford factor which will complement this article., I hope I have addressed your concerns and please let me know if there is anything else I can do to improve the article. Thank you for your work. -John Schalow — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jschalow (talk • contribs) 20:42, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time
Hello Kvng!
I recently saw that you had taken your time to review and publish one of my articles, thank you for doing that. I do have several article draft on similar topics which have got stuck in "very-old-draft" category still awaiting reviews and publications. If you feel like it and have the time, feel free to take a look at them. If not, that is just as fine by me and in that case I wish you to have a nice day! :) Best regards!
The articles are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tarzan:_The_Complete_Russ_Manning_Newspaper_Strips https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:For_Better_or_For_Worse:_The_Complete_Library https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Complete_Steve_Canyon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rip_Kirby:_The_Complete_Comic_Strips https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Complete_Little_Orphan_Annie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Phantom:_The_Complete_Comic_Strips — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.226.181.169 (talk) 10:01, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm sorry there is such a long backlog at AfC. We are working our way through it. I am personally reviewing drafts from the very old category in random order and will continue to do so as my time allows. ~Kvng (talk) 13:29, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- I certainly understand, thank you for replying to my query. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.226.181.169 (talk) 06:18, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Lucille Lortel Award for Outstanding Projection Design
Regarding your rejection of Draft:Lucille Lortel Award for Outstanding Projection Design. While the subject may not be noteworthy on its own, it is merely a list of award recipients in a particular category which, given the number of categories, would quickly crowd the Lucille Lortel Awards page. It seems no less noteworthy than a Lucille Lortel Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Play, a Tony Award for Best Scenic Design in a Play or an Academy Award for Best Cinematography . This seems to be a fairly standard format for awards.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.75.165.78 (talk) 03:02, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
- I assume a best actress award gets more press coverage than projection design and Tonys and Academy Awards get more coverage than Lucille Lortel Awards. In any case, I don't decide. Whatever multiple reliable sources decide to cover, is what Wikipedia considers notable. ~Kvng (talk) 13:33, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
WP:THREE best sources
Dear Kvng, as you requested I published the WP:THREE best English sources for the article Draft:Andrea_Marinelli. Hope it may help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.53.38.14 (talk) 15:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
- I have replied at Draft talk:Andrea Marinelli ~Kvng (talk) 17:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Kvng, I chose those WP:THREE because mostly all other sources are in Italian. I'm afraid it's not enough. Thanks anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.53.38.14 (talk) 15:59, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
- Foreign language sources are acceptable. Though I don't speak italian, I'm often able to evaluate them using Google translations. ~Kvng (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Let's try again then! :-) I added three sources in Italian. Thanks Kvng — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.53.38.14 (talk) 09:19, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I noticed the errors as well, also on the draft's page. Everything was working a few days ago, I'm trying to figure out what happened. In the meanwhile I attached the WP:THREE on the Draft:Andrea_Marinelli's draft talk. Thanks again. (Apparently the problem comes from this revision, but there is nothing I can do: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft%3AAndrea_Marinelli&type=revision&diff=911710648&oldid=911710278)
Hi Kvng, thanks for your patience and for taking the time to review the Draft:Andrea_Marinelli. I added two more references on the talk page: one is the web version of the story you couldn't evaluate, the other is a story similar to La Repubblica. Have a nice day!
- Draft resubmitted on your behalf and accepted. ~Kvng (talk) 13:43, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks
You are very kind! Thank you. Kbrose (talk) 12:32, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
regarding Raul Jimenez Tellado rejection
where is the copyright material? I cannot find any! could you highlight the offending material so I can remove it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantizan (talk • contribs) 20:57, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
The offending material has been removed. Your tool now reports no overlap with anything else on the web (that google can find). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantizan (talk • contribs) 19:32, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Cantizan: feel free to resubmit and another reviewer will have another look in due course. ~Kvng (talk) 15:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Notability Criteria - Draft:The Zangwills
MMyll (talk) 19:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Moved to Draft_talk:The_Zangwills and responded there. ~Kvng (talk) 20:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
MMyll (talk) 10:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC) Update posted on Draft_talk:The_Zangwills - Many Thanks
Draft:Racing Team Nederland Rejection
Moved to Draft talk:Racing Team Nederland#Draft:Racing Team Nederland Rejection and responded there ~Kvng (talk) 13:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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Question about Draft:Eric Floehr
Can you please clarify the copyright issues that caused you to decline Draft:Eric Floehr? Lmaynard16 (talk) 15:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Lmaynard16: Content potentially copied from [3].See CV report ~Kvng (talk) 21:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Notable sources: Draft:Crowdin
Hi! Thank you for taking the time to review my article, I've added a few sources, that might be the most notable ones (if choosing from the ones I listed). Cold you please take a look and let me know if that helps? They're mostly online sources, not books because the product I'm describing is the one developers use, so they mostly cover and discuss things online. But still, I found several books covering the topic, and chose one that seems to cover the topic best. Please let me know if this works! Thank you :) Meli.roden (talk) 14:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Greetings Kvng,
Newly introduced to Wikipedia article publication, this is my first communication with a genuine Wikipedia editor. The WP:THREE information requested has been published on the Draft talk:Raymond Ferris Abelin link graciously provided. Many thanks for your efforts and help!
Thanks Kvng, I responded to your message concerning WP:INDEPENDENT sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.186.101.174 (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Kvng, I took one last try at the WP:THREE response. Hopefully, the references are relevant, but if not, understood. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.186.101.174 (talk) 01:52, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Question about Draft:Eric Floehr
The content being flagged by CV report is actually a blog post I wrote on Eric Floehr's company website. I used excerpts from the copy I wrote for the Wikipedia submission for the blog post. If I take down the blog post will that eliminate the conflict with the submission? Lmaynard16 (talk) 15:53, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Lmaynard16: The cleanest thing to do is to release the material under a Wikipedia-compatible license. Instructions and information is at WP:DCP. ~Kvng (talk) 20:56, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
About Draft:George Tyndall
Hi Kvng,
I have some qualms about moving that accepted draft into article space. While there are many reliable sources about the subject that WP:VERIFY the many accusations, I have not found any reliable sources for any actual conviction for a crime. Perhaps you could tidy this up?
Pete AU aka--Shirt58 (talk) 11:06, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- Shirt58 The article never says he has been convicted. What do you have in mind in terms of tidying? ~Kvng (talk) 12:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- You are right, I was wrong. Actual convictions appear not be required. See WP:BLPCRIME
- I have obligations external to the Wikipedia project, and must recuse myself from making this page move.
- --Shirt58 (talk) 10:47, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Question about Draft:Eric Floehr
I have released the material by following the Wikipedia guidelines. I put permission explicitly on the site where that material is posted and is now documented on the talk page of Draft:Eric Floehr. The only issue is that webcitation.org is currently not accepting archiving requests. I was not able to complete that requirement. What is the next step? Lmaynard16 (talk) 17:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Lmaynard16: When you think you have the copyright issue resolved, the next step is to resubmit the draft for another review. Be aware that the most common reason for declines of drafts like this is notability. Please make sure you have WP:42 well covered before resubmitting to avoid a long wait followed by disappointment. ~Kvng (talk) 18:53, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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2019 US Banknote Contest
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Thank you,
--ManuelGamio (talk) 14:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ManuelGamio: I ended up evaluating your cited sources myself and declined your submission. Feel free to improve it and resubmit and another reviewer will have another look. ~Kvng (talk) 20:32, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
ok, thank you
--ManuelGamio (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Synths
Hey, sorry for being a bit militant on the synthesizer article. But my rationale is this.
This article is in bad shape. It has reams of uncited information and poorly organised sections, and is missing vital information in areas like the impact on popular music. I eventually plan to attempt a thorough overhaul of the entire article, perhaps aiming for GA or FA (like I did with TR-808). In the meantime, I am trying to tackle low-hanging fruit; uncited sections are easy targets and, as the article is overlong already, help bring a bit of order, even if it's short-term. By relying on WP:BURDEN I am trying to encourage other editors to help cite things. Popcornduff (talk) 13:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- I will look for a source. I have been slowly working on the article as part of my User:Kvng/RTH project. At this point I have only reviewed through section 1.8. I probably won't have any ideas about big-picture reorganization until I get a bit further. Don't let my activities stop you from making bold improvements. ~Kvng (talk) 14:04, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
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OG Cuicide's Wiki Page (AKA Darnell Price) THANK YOU
Thanks for commenting on the page, I've left a new comment containing the "3 Best Sources" establishing notoriety for the subject.
Please let me know if you have received notice of the "New Section" - I am new to Wikipedia and sometimes it's not entirely clear if I've successfully left a comment/message or not. Also, I left a note at the bottom of that section explaining a previous ordeal concerning this page. If you have any information on that, I would appreciate your assistance.
Thank you so much,
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- Reply at Draft talk:Darnell Price ~Kvng (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Ludwika Ogorzelec entry now has 5 sources
Hello, my article about Ludwika Ogorzelec was rejected because I relied only on one main source. The reason for this is that she is a global artist, and hence many of the sources about her are in languages other than English. Anyway, I have now revised the entry and expanded my sources to FIVE. Can you please take another look and, hopefully, approve this entry? I'm certainly willing to make further improvements, if necessary, although after working on this for more than 20 hours, I hope I am seeing the end of the tunnel soon. :-) Thanks for the great work you are doing on behalf of Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandarin54 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Proposed new lead section for Leap second
You probably have leap second on your watch list but just in case you miss it and can find a moment (SI standard moment, of course) to review it, I have posted a draft replacement lead section at talk:Leap second#Proposed new version of the lead. I would appreciate your comments. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:02, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- I care about leads and I care about leap seconds. I have commented. ~Kvng (talk) 16:41, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
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The copyright violation was from a book review that I wrote
I will promptly add a license to the book review Ylevental (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Kvng: I just added a license to the source at Draft talk:Thomas Clements (writer)/Temp. The source is at https://corticalchauvinism.com/2019/07/29/autism-updated/ Anything else I need to do to get the article approved? Ylevental (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Ylevental: Wikipedia takes copyright violations seriously so unfortunately there's a bunch of red tape that needs to be dealt with. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems and specifically Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2019 November 5 where I listed this issue. It usually takes a week or more to get this all sorted out. If you want to try and push it along you may be able to find someone at the WP:TEAHOUSE to help you. Once the copyright issues are resolved, you'll need to resubmit your draft and wait for another reviewer to have another look at it. Be aware that copyright violation is one of our quick-fail criterion. I did not give your draft a comprehensive review. Please make sure that notability requirements are met before resubmitting. ~Kvng (talk) 14:20, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Confused about instructions
Hello Kvng,
Thanks for helping reviewing my submission. You provided some instructions but I'm not really sure what you mean. Article in revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Blue_Sky_Architecture
Are you asking for me to provide the three best sources according to WP:RS and WP:SIGCOV? Then I should add a new section in the talk page of the article?
Cheers! Quettal (talk) 22:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Quettal: that's basically my request. Best to post in a new section on the draft's talk page. This submission must meet WP:NCORP. Let me know if you need any further help. ~Kvng (talk) 23:32, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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Just FYI, regarding pings, they typically can't be fixed -- it closes the template but no notification is generated. For a ping to create a notification it needs to link to be on a new line, link to a userpage, and include a fresh timestamp with four tildes. Adding a link to an existing line, adding a link and replacing one signature with another, etc. don't actually work. You may already know this, but FYI anyway. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:28, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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Draft:Gravity Noir THANK YOU
Thanks for commenting on the page, I'm hoping I managed adding WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of my subject Gravity Noir (WP: Band).
I would appreciate your assistance if there is anything else I can do to improve my article. Hoping it won't be deleted?
Thanks again, kind regards and best wishes.--Trix18365 (talk) 12:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Draft:Gravity Noir THANKS AGAIN
Thank you for helping me out with the wikipage article about Gravity Noir. I was holding my breath, but so happy, because thanks to your help the page was saved from deletion. Really appreciated and I promise I will try my very best to keep improving the page.--Trix18365 (talk) 08:45, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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Request on 03:04:04, 25 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Greghenderson2006
Hi Kvng,
Thanks for your review. I've made some changes per your suggestion and was wondering if you want to take a look at it now or should I resubmit it. You say in your review of Elwood Walter, No. 7 draft article that, "The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Sandy Hook pilot."
I have tried to address these issues and feel it now has sufficient content because (a) the pilot ship was one of the earliest pilot boats that was built duing the 1860's. (b) It is an example of a Sandy Hook pilot boat that was given a pilot number seven by the New York Merchants' Pilot Association. (c) The text and sources are on par with other wiki articles, e.g. William Bell, No. 24, Pet, No. 9, etc. (d) I've added a citation to the burning of the ship Wabamo, which was rescued by the pilot boat Elwood Walter.
I feel it cannot be merged with an existing article Sandy Hook Pilot because (a) That article is focused on the pilot. (b) There is a need to have articles about specific vessels, seperate, as seen in the list Service vessels of the United States. Greg Henderson 03:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Greg Henderson 03:04, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Greghenderson2006: Your changes have indeed focused the article on the vessel so it is now more difficult to make a good case for merging the content to Sandy Hook Pilot. Standalone articles must meet WP:GNG. There are a lot of offline sources cited but the online material I see here does not give the required in-depth coverage of the vessel to meet this requirement. See WP:OTHERSTUFF for an explanation why the existence of similar articles is not necessarily a good argument for creating this one. Your work has improved the draft and I would suggest you resubmit it to have another reviewer take a look at it. ~Kvng (talk) 14:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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Resubmitted article on Ludwika Ogorzelec
Hi, I have fixed the problem with sourcing in my article on the sculptor Ludwika Ogorzelec, and I have resubmitted the article some weeks ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ludwika_Ogorzelec I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a look. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandarin54 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Mandarin54: thanks for the improvements. With few exceptions, I only review submissions once. Another volunteer reviewer will have another look in due course. ~Kvng (talk) 05:21, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
/* Draft:Aleksandra Rudes */
I resubmitted the article and added numerous sources and references, including interviews with those who worked with her/heard her perform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aleksandra_Rudes
Thanks.
PBLB (talk) 20:28, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- @PBLB: thanks for the improvements. With few exceptions, I only review submissions once. Another volunteer reviewer will have another look in due course. ~Kvng (talk) 15:16, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello. You contested a PROD on this article a few months ago and may be interested in this AFD. Thanks. No Great Shaker (talk) 15:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Resubmitted Draft:MasterCard Foundation
Hello, I improved the article references and resubmitted for AfC, would you care to review the article? I've been waiting for a new reviewer for awhile. Thanks! LilaMorillo (talk) 01:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- Accepted ~Kvng (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Please look the article
Hi, my name is Carina, how are you?
I already fixed the article and removed the words that were not neutral. Please review it and accept it since I lasted many hours doing it. Consider my request. I also take into account any advice from you and whether I should remove or put words. This is the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Emil_Cerda Eltiguere300 (talk) 15:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)Eltiguere300
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400GBASE-ZR
I deleted the 400GBASE-ZR port type from the 400G list in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabit_Ethernet because it is no longer being done by the 802.3ct project. 802.3ct is just standardizing a 100GBASE-ZR long reach PHY.
It is fair enough to leave 400GBASE-ZR in the list for the time being as it will be standardized by the 802.3cw project in due course.
See: http://www.ieee802.org/3/ct/ProjDoc/3ct_Objectives_190911.pdf and: http://www.ieee802.org/3/cw/proj_doc/3cw_Objectives_190911.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.175.212.46 (talk) 11:01, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
Sources in Draft:Jorge S. del Villar
Thank you for working on my article. Hereby are some sources that entirely comply with Wikipedia's standards
- http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1997-11-02/news/1997306198_1_del-villar-altar-jorge-del from prestigious Baltimore Sun
- File:Jorge_S._del_Villar_covered_by_Carroll_County_Times.jpg front page Carroll County Times
- https://www.jornada.com.mx/2016/10/27/cultura/a04n1cul prestigious newspaper La Jornada
- https://www.jornada.com.mx/2018/07/13/capital/038n1cap La Jornada
- https://www.oncenoticias.tv/nota/rinden-homenaje-a-samuel-del-villar-kretchmar Prestigious Canal Once
- https://www.portalpolitico.tv/medios-de-comunicacion/canal-once-canal-22-y-tv-unam-ofrecieron-contenidos-de-calidad
- https://www.te.gob.mx/front/bulletins/detail/1370/0 From official page of the autonomous Tribunal Electoral del Poder Judicial de la Federacion
- https://mvsnoticias.com/noticias/economia/recibe-programa-radiofonico-de-mvs-premio-del-inegi-967/ from prestigious MVS Comunicaciones
- https://archivo.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2013/tepjf-y-once-tv-inician-concurso-de-debate-959870.html from prestigious newspaper El Universal
Thank you, --ManuelGamio (talk) 14:31, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Reviewed by Calliopejen1 and found lacking. ~Kvng (talk) 14:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello
I just made my first article fighting my quarantine boredom, I picked a politics person. Would you care to review it? :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nicole_Christoff JavTehran (talk) 22:49, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- @JavTehran: we have a three-month backlog of articles. I usually review oldest first. ~Kvng (talk) 00:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Precision Agriculture for Development Article
Hi Kvng,
I'm revisiting an article I submitted a few months ago. I think the reason it was not accepted was that it didn't have enough independent sources. Could you verify this? If this is not the case, could you let me know how I can improve it otherwise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braniac0312 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Braniac0312: There are a couple of arguably WP:INDEPENDENT sources ([4], [5]) but there does not appear to be WP:SIGCOV in these sources. ~Kvng (talk) 14:25, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Reverted edits
Hello Kvng,
I hope you are doing fine, you reverted my edits in the Network address translation (NAT).
Infact I am developing the article in Arabic (check), I designed images for the article both in Arabic and English 1 2 3 4 ... etc. and I added some of them that are relative to the text. However, you mentioned that "Purpose of these changes unclear", and I am explaining why I did add them.
I am waiting to hear from you,
Best wishes !--MichelBakni (talk) 19:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @MichelBakni: The new diagrams don't seem to have the same information as the old one. Yours only show address mapping but no port mapping. Is there any problem with the existing diagram you're trying to fix? ~Kvng (talk) 19:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- I was going to add the one with the port number Here, but I had to fix several errors before that (check the image history). The first two images explain the Basic NAT, they are necessary for the reader to understand how technology is changing.
- @MichelBakni: To replace the existing diagram, the new has to be better. How are the new diagrams better? Is there any problem with the existing diagram you're trying to fix? ~Kvng (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ok no problem with the old PAT, it is the same information, but I need to add the first two images in the basic NAT before it.--MichelBakni (talk) 19:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello Kvng. Regarding your decision here. Can you clarify if you are objecting to copying of text from other sites, or the linking to particular web sites for copies of the photograph? (I am guessing you think those sites don't have permission to show the photo). My own research indicates that the photo can be found in some other places where the usage seems legitimate. If that's what needs fixing, I could probably do it. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 02:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Le sigh
I'm sure it was purely coincidental that in reverting Gettys' blog back into CoDel you also reintroduced the same non-authoritative blog you have bveen spamming at bufferbloat. That one is clearly inappropriate. As for the two links to Gettys' blog, per WP:LINKSTOAVOID, we should avoid blogs in general. Gettys is known, but in a niche way. It's far better to link to his published work in the IEEE journals and elsewhere, because in the end self-p[published sources are self-published, they are not peer reviewed, they are prone to error and they are also prone to opinionated takes that do not enjoy mainstream support. Wikipedia is not a link directory. External links are supposed to be sources that would be valid if worked into the article. Blogs, even by noted authorities, are not supposed to be used as sources other than on the article about the subject, per WP:ABOUTSELF. Please keep blogs out of Wikipedia. Guy (help!) 15:22, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- According to WP:EL #4 these types of sources can be considered for inclusion as external links. You seem to believe they should never be included anywhere. How do I reconcile this? ~Kvng (talk) 18:10, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for working to bring this major article towards Good Article standard. However it still has 19 places (some whole paragraphs) where citations are needed. These should really be addressed before going into the GAN queue as the reviewing instructions permit a quick-fail under such circumstances. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I guess I should have checked the requirements carefully. What I have done is addressed all issues raised at the last GA review. If that's not good enough then I should remove it from the queue. ~Kvng (talk) 13:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for prompt reply. I think there are two choices: add citations quickly, or pull from the queue, add them in your own time, and resubmit. Since it's only been in the queue a short time, personally I'd do the latter, but it depends how quickly you like to work. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:26, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Chiswick Chap: I have looked again at the criteria and don't see anything about every paragraph requiring a citation, just the expected WP:V requirement. What are the 19 issues you've identified? ~Kvng (talk) 13:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've marked the article with citations needed tags. The GA criteria permit a quick-fail when tags are outstanding. Tags are per WP:CITE as well as WP:V as you rightly note. Were I reviewing the article now I would certainly consider a quick-fail, though I would try as here to ascertain the nominator's intentions first. If I found that he or she was intent on pressing ahead without the citations then I would certainly fail the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I don't work quickly. I have withdrawn. ~Kvng (talk) 13:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- OK, many thanks. I hope to see it back at GAN when you're ready. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I don't work quickly. I have withdrawn. ~Kvng (talk) 13:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- I've marked the article with citations needed tags. The GA criteria permit a quick-fail when tags are outstanding. Tags are per WP:CITE as well as WP:V as you rightly note. Were I reviewing the article now I would certainly consider a quick-fail, though I would try as here to ascertain the nominator's intentions first. If I found that he or she was intent on pressing ahead without the citations then I would certainly fail the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Chiswick Chap: I have looked again at the criteria and don't see anything about every paragraph requiring a citation, just the expected WP:V requirement. What are the 19 issues you've identified? ~Kvng (talk) 13:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap: My other potential candidate is Moore's law. Would you mind having a quick look at that before I do anything rash? ~Kvng (talk) 13:51, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- Well, it's certainly much more fully cited; there are some uncited statements but perhaps the GA reviewer will overlook those. If they are covered by the preceding inline refs then it'd be helpful to readers and reviewers to repeat the refs for clarity; if not, the safest procedure is to find refs for those statements. I know the GA criteria don't look as though everything must be cited "unless challenged"; but any uncited statement can (and in many editors' view, should) be challenged. After all, if not from a cited source, where did they come from? I do not believe any of the editors who have reviewed my GANs would have overlooked, or did actually overlook, any uncited claims. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
"Already tagged"
The purpose of tagging a sourcing issue is not to leave the tag in place, but to resolve it. If you think the content needs some kind of source, and you've seen the tags showing this sourcing to be unacceptable, then please either remove the content or find an alternative source, don't reinsert sources that have been tagged as failing our sourcing guidelines for months without anyone doing anything about it. That really isn't an improvement. Thanks, Guy (help!) 16:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: Please don't remove the tagged marginal sources; they are useful references for editors who replace them with better sources. There is WP:NODEADLINE for getting the work done. I've been working on improving technical articles for years; it simply doesn't happen in months. ~Kvng (talk) 18:50, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, This is how it works. A source is tagged as unreliable. It sits there for a while. If nobody fixes it, the source (and potentially the text) gets removed. At that point you're more than welcome to reinstate the text based on reliable sources, but the unreliable sources have had their day in the sun and need to go. The reason is simple: long experience indicates that {{citation needed}} gets fixed much more often than {{self-published source}}. In fact, I have watched sample lists of hundreds of articles with self-published sources without any of them ever been fixed in years. Guy (help!) 18:57, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: can you show me where there's consensus about the workflow you've described? ~Kvng (talk) 13:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, see WP:RS. All content must be drawn from reliable independent sources. Guy (help!) 14:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- I was looking for a discussion between editors describing the workflow. If it is something you've taken upon yourself based on your reading of WP:RS, I applaud your boldness but disagree with these actions for the reasons I've given in my first reply above. ~Kvng (talk) 14:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, it's implicit in policy. All content must be drawn from reliable independent sources. There are multiple discussions at WP:RSN about what we do with unreliable sources. This is completely in line with policy, in a way that reinstating an unreliable source - especially when without the tags showing it to be unreliable - is not.
- You are framing this as a quixotic personal reading of RS. It is not. As I say, go to WP:RSN for more details on this. Guy (help!) 14:55, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- I am not trying to remove the tags or permanently retain these sources. I am asking for time for these issues to be addressed. I do not think several months is enough time.
- All edits should improve the article in some way. I don't see how removing a tagged marginal source and replacing it with {{citation needed}} is an improvement. ~Kvng (talk) 15:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, as noted above {{cn}} gets fixed very often by wikignomes and readers, in a way that {{sps}} really does not. You have the same amount of time and the same options with both, but one attracts fixes and the other doesn't. Guy (help!) 16:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- I saw that and I accept it as your experience. {{sps}} is, however, the more appropriate tag for these cases and I know, based on my work fixing these issues, that retaining the marginal source is often helpful towards finding a better source. I don't think we should be making these edits if the goal is to attract editors working to resolve {{cn}} tags (but not other sourcing issues for some reason). We should be spending our time fixing these problems, not twiddling tags. ~Kvng (talk) 16:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, it has been tagged for months without being fixed (which allows for your optimistic view). It has not been fixed, therefore I am going to {{cn}}, which, in my view, is more likely to be fixed. We appear to differ only on how long it should be left to languish with a "marginal" (read: unacceptable per WP:RS) source. That's a philosophical question on which reasonable people may differ. Guy (help!) 23:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- That's a fair but incomplete summary. The final resolution for these things is a determination that the associated material doesn't actually need a citation and the tagged citation is removed, the tagged citation is replaced with a better one or the tagged citation and associated material is deleted. We disagree about whether twiddling tags brings us closer to a final resolution. ~Kvng (talk) 23:57, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- These responses from JzG consistently refuse to acknowledge that his interpretation/crusade is not actually what Wikipedia:Verifiability says about self-published sources; in fact, I've never managed to get him to acknowledge that Wikipedia actually has a specific policy on self-published sources. Changing the language to "marginal" because the usages you're removing are clearly allowed by Wikipedia:Verifiability doesn't make the material you're removing any less allowed or your edits any less detrimental. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- The Drover's Wife, what WP:V says is:
- The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.
- Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source.
- Base articles on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.
- And more. Framing this as a "crusade" is an attempt to turn a standard Wikipedia editing practice into some kind of malefaction. Of course the fact is that the vast majority of crap sources are never removed - but that is not a reason for not removing them. And the vast majority of removals are never challenged, because in the end unreliable sources are unreliable.
- So the only message I can take from these discussions is that you prefer to retain material drawn from sources that are abject failures of WP:RS and have been tagged as such for at least months and often years. That would clearly be insane, so maybe you can explain where I am going wrong there. Guy (help!) 19:25, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- The Drover's Wife, what WP:V says is:
- Kvng, I have, in general, no specific preference there. You are more than welcome to remove the {{cn}}, to remove the text, or to open a discussion on Talk as to whether the text requires an inline citation. All of these are absolutely fine by me. All I am trying to do is reduce the backlog of tagged crap sources. Because very few others actually do. I'd add in passing that my approach has been discussed at WP:RSN and generally agreed to be about right, but of course there are going to be occasional cases where specific subject knowledge would deliver a different outcome, such as leaving text unsourced because it's "sky is blue" level obvious to anyone with domain knowledge. Guy (help!) 19:28, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Once again, you've specifically ignored that Wikipedia:Verifiability has guidelines about self-published sources as to when and in what circumstances they are acceptable, which are, strangely enough, not the text you just tried to quote to show me what for. I'm not a newbie, and quoting random bits of policy while deliberately ignoring the stuff that directly pertains to what you're doing doesn't work on me. The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- The final resolution of these issues depends on the context. The main point of my previous reply was:
We disagree about whether twiddling tags brings us closer to a final resolution.
I review changes and revert edits that don't clearly make an improvement. You have not convinced me that these edits are an improvement and I am not the only editor who takes issue with your approach so I will continue to revert. I hope you try to find a more agreeable way to work through the {{sps}} backlog. ~Kvng (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2020 (UTC)- Kvng, One final time. You just reverted back in the link to freemanav-ca.com. It was added in this edit by MONICAFARNANDES (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), a sockpuppet and part of a prolific refspamming nest, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RiffFinch/Archive. Self revert or WP:ANI? Your choice.
- Your definition of "agreeable" parses as "to my personal satisfaction". You don't get to be arbiter. We can discuss this further at WP:RSN if you like. Guy (help!) 23:18, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the overt threat. I have removed the spam ref. You didn't indicate that was spam the first and second time you removed it. ~Kvng (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, because I didn't know. But you restored it knowing it to be unreliable, and failed to check that it was not spam when doing so. Per WP:V, "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." In other words, you have to check it's reliable, and in fact you acknowledged it was not. So you are breaching policy, as you also did at bufferbloat, where you restored another unreliable source. It appears that you interpret the "consider" language in WP:PRESERVE as overriding the "must" language of WP:V. That is... problematic. Guy (help!) 23:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Ok. We've been over this already. Go ahead and bring it to WP:ANI if you like. I predict that won't make things better for anyone.
- What I meant by "agreeable" was that there are other ways to go about improving sourcing that may be more effective and would be more compatible with the way other editors prefer to work (I'm not the only one having trouble with your approach). Is there a WikiProject dedicated to improving sourcing that can be rallied to help out? ~Kvng (talk) 13:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, because I didn't know. But you restored it knowing it to be unreliable, and failed to check that it was not spam when doing so. Per WP:V, "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." In other words, you have to check it's reliable, and in fact you acknowledged it was not. So you are breaching policy, as you also did at bufferbloat, where you restored another unreliable source. It appears that you interpret the "consider" language in WP:PRESERVE as overriding the "must" language of WP:V. That is... problematic. Guy (help!) 23:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the overt threat. I have removed the spam ref. You didn't indicate that was spam the first and second time you removed it. ~Kvng (talk) 14:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- These responses from JzG consistently refuse to acknowledge that his interpretation/crusade is not actually what Wikipedia:Verifiability says about self-published sources; in fact, I've never managed to get him to acknowledge that Wikipedia actually has a specific policy on self-published sources. Changing the language to "marginal" because the usages you're removing are clearly allowed by Wikipedia:Verifiability doesn't make the material you're removing any less allowed or your edits any less detrimental. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- That's a fair but incomplete summary. The final resolution for these things is a determination that the associated material doesn't actually need a citation and the tagged citation is removed, the tagged citation is replaced with a better one or the tagged citation and associated material is deleted. We disagree about whether twiddling tags brings us closer to a final resolution. ~Kvng (talk) 23:57, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, it has been tagged for months without being fixed (which allows for your optimistic view). It has not been fixed, therefore I am going to {{cn}}, which, in my view, is more likely to be fixed. We appear to differ only on how long it should be left to languish with a "marginal" (read: unacceptable per WP:RS) source. That's a philosophical question on which reasonable people may differ. Guy (help!) 23:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- I saw that and I accept it as your experience. {{sps}} is, however, the more appropriate tag for these cases and I know, based on my work fixing these issues, that retaining the marginal source is often helpful towards finding a better source. I don't think we should be making these edits if the goal is to attract editors working to resolve {{cn}} tags (but not other sourcing issues for some reason). We should be spending our time fixing these problems, not twiddling tags. ~Kvng (talk) 16:21, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, as noted above {{cn}} gets fixed very often by wikignomes and readers, in a way that {{sps}} really does not. You have the same amount of time and the same options with both, but one attracts fixes and the other doesn't. Guy (help!) 16:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
- I was looking for a discussion between editors describing the workflow. If it is something you've taken upon yourself based on your reading of WP:RS, I applaud your boldness but disagree with these actions for the reasons I've given in my first reply above. ~Kvng (talk) 14:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, see WP:RS. All content must be drawn from reliable independent sources. Guy (help!) 14:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: can you show me where there's consensus about the workflow you've described? ~Kvng (talk) 13:48, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, This is how it works. A source is tagged as unreliable. It sits there for a while. If nobody fixes it, the source (and potentially the text) gets removed. At that point you're more than welcome to reinstate the text based on reliable sources, but the unreliable sources have had their day in the sun and need to go. The reason is simple: long experience indicates that {{citation needed}} gets fixed much more often than {{self-published source}}. In fact, I have watched sample lists of hundreds of articles with self-published sources without any of them ever been fixed in years. Guy (help!) 18:57, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@JzG: this has flared up again at Bufferbloat. My position has not changed. I don't appreciate the ongoing hostility. ~Kvng (talk) 13:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, neither has mine, and neither do I. It's an unreliable source, it will never be anything else. Guy (help!) 19:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: Why are you objecting to referencing an unreliable or primary source in an HTML comment? ~Kvng (talk) 14:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, a better question is, what on earth is the policy-based reason for including an unreliable source in an html comment after it has been challenged and removed as a source in the article? It invites the supposiottion that somehow looking at it in the future will render it reliable. The [{tl|cn}} tag is there to remind you to source the statement, and it seems uinlikely to me that you, personallly, will forget that blog post, so the only possible outcome would be to confuse future editoris and potentially lead them to reintroduce it. Guy (help!) 14:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: Thanks for answering. From here it appears you are either manufacturing arguments to win this dispute or hold editors in low esteem contrary to WP:AGF. I thought holding these potentially valuable but disputed sources as comments would be a good compromise. Is there no possibility for compromise with you on this? ~Kvng (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, what part of "unreliable source" is a failure to assume good faith? Don't add unreliable sources to articles and we have no dispute. Guy (help!) 16:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: So no compromises. I guess we're done here (again). ~Kvng (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, in what way is your insistence on including the blog a "compromise"? This is blatant sealioning. Guy (help!) 18:12, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: I hadn't heard of sealioning. This is not a productive discussion. I'm done. ~Kvng (talk) 19:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, in what way is your insistence on including the blog a "compromise"? This is blatant sealioning. Guy (help!) 18:12, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: So no compromises. I guess we're done here (again). ~Kvng (talk) 16:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, what part of "unreliable source" is a failure to assume good faith? Don't add unreliable sources to articles and we have no dispute. Guy (help!) 16:53, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: Thanks for answering. From here it appears you are either manufacturing arguments to win this dispute or hold editors in low esteem contrary to WP:AGF. I thought holding these potentially valuable but disputed sources as comments would be a good compromise. Is there no possibility for compromise with you on this? ~Kvng (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, a better question is, what on earth is the policy-based reason for including an unreliable source in an html comment after it has been challenged and removed as a source in the article? It invites the supposiottion that somehow looking at it in the future will render it reliable. The [{tl|cn}} tag is there to remind you to source the statement, and it seems uinlikely to me that you, personallly, will forget that blog post, so the only possible outcome would be to confuse future editoris and potentially lead them to reintroduce it. Guy (help!) 14:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @JzG: Why are you objecting to referencing an unreliable or primary source in an HTML comment? ~Kvng (talk) 14:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
I have posted at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Campaign_to_remove_unreliable_sources to try and get some input from other editors on this. ~Kvng (talk) 19:50, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, and despite the clear consensus that oroispakr.ca is not reliable, you reinserted it at CoDel anyway.
- Here's how it's supposed to work: someone inserts something, someone else removes it, and it then stays out until there is consensus on Talk for inclusion. Guy (help!) 16:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
- The criteria for inclusion in EL section are different than the criteria for use as a reference. See User_talk:Kvng#Le_sigh. ~Kvng (talk) 17:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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- @Seanhalle: Please see WP:BRD. This objection should be discussed on the article's talk page (Talk:Bridging_(networking)). ~Kvng (talk) 13:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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I swapped in what I think is a better title: ==<span id="Commercial VPNs"><span id="virtual private network services">VPN services</span></span>== because of a few reasons. First, for the thing being discussed in that section, the general public has come to mainly use the term VPN service or just VPN. Second, when VPN technology was first in wide use, the main use case was the one seen here: https://images.app.goo.glSLASHgsJunXirPvKivfNi6 - which clearly is a VPN and is clearly commercial, and yet is, to a user, nothing at all like what's being discussed in this section, so the old section title, which you restored, "Commercial VPNs", was lousy. Thirdly, Comparison_of_virtual_private_network_services is thusly named, hence that span ID. Fourthly, the link at the top of that page should be to this section. Lastly, I left the old span id to avoid breaking links. Please consider a self-rv and/or reply wherever. Cordially. --50.201.195.170 (talk) 00:52, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Why was the proposed deletion tag removed without explanation? The institute is unquestionably fake, not even a single citation except to their own website. Also, reported in media as running a fake degree racket. Discuss on talk page and provide reason for keeping the article. Neurofreak (talk) 19:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Neurofreak: It looks like you've sent this to AfD. That's the right venue. PROD is for uncontroversial deletions. This one is a bit complex. ~Kvng (talk) 03:49, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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Even if "digitus" means finger, one can not find any proof that "digital signal" could solely mean The finger. An index finger or a pinky swear suggestion would be then also digital signals. And would digital fingerprint only mean the obscene fingerprint? Everybody would be happy if someone shows a digital signal, which unambiguously means the bird. Thanks in advance! --Geysirhead (talk) 10:13, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- I thought it was a clever association that readers might appreciate. I didn't come up with it, just was amused and chose to let it be. ~Kvng (talk) 13:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
"a pattern unjustified deprodding should be handled as WP:DISRUPTIVE"
You wrote it at WT:PROD but as far as I know, complaints about serial deprodders who don't use any rationale have not led to anything in the past. And I don't mean you, you usually make an argument. I can show you diffs but you probably know whom I refer to. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: I don't know. I don't want to get involved. That's what WP:ANI is for. I think what I said or was trying to say was that depproding without having a reason is disruptive. This is different than deprodding without giving a reason. ~Kvng (talk) 12:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- The "reason" is pretty obvious if you look at the rationale at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kandor (comics), for example. Although past history at ANI shows there is unlikely to be any consensus on this, so I guess this POINTless abuse will continue. :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- That looks like WP:ZEAL. What am I missing? ~Kvng (talk) 16:12, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- The "reason" is pretty obvious if you look at the rationale at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kandor (comics), for example. Although past history at ANI shows there is unlikely to be any consensus on this, so I guess this POINTless abuse will continue. :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Something of a garbage deprod there.
"GNG failure unsubstantiated. Other reasons given are not valid WP:DEL-REASONs." Seriously? Since only ONE reason was given, what other reasons would you care to suggest were proffered? And that being said, since you cannot prove a negative, if you believe that the subject meets the GNG, kindly disclose the reliable sources providing substantial coverage to the subject you have found. Ravenswing 00:45, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Ravenswing: Did you look for any sources yourself? You didn't give any indication that you did. WP:BEFORE applies to prods. ~Kvng (talk) 14:29, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- No kidding it does. I found no reliable sources giving substantive coverage to the concept of previews. Go ahead, your turn. Once again, kindly disclose the reliable sources providing substantial coverage to the subject you have found. Ravenswing 21:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- It would be more productive to discuss this at AfD than here. ~Kvng (talk) 13:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Translation = you got nothing. And now your charming revert at The Spaceship Martini. You know something, if you didn't actually support a redirect, you shouldn't have advocated one. I rather think we'll try this another way. Ravenswing 15:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Ravenswing: Sorry for being terse. We're having an unnecessarily hostile AfD discussion here that we would repeat (presumably with less hostility) at AfD.
- WRT The Spaceship Martini, I apologize for not carefully comparing content with Steven Martini to assess whether merge or redirect was the right way to go. It doesn't look like you put much thought into it either. ~Kvng (talk) 16:22, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Translation = you got nothing. And now your charming revert at The Spaceship Martini. You know something, if you didn't actually support a redirect, you shouldn't have advocated one. I rather think we'll try this another way. Ravenswing 15:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- It would be more productive to discuss this at AfD than here. ~Kvng (talk) 13:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- No kidding it does. I found no reliable sources giving substantive coverage to the concept of previews. Go ahead, your turn. Once again, kindly disclose the reliable sources providing substantial coverage to the subject you have found. Ravenswing 21:53, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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Copyvio
Hi, you tagged this with a CCI request several months ago, but never actually filed it. I ran multiple checks against the sources and I can't find a single copyright violation. Can you elaborate on where the copyvio is? Praxidicae (talk) 17:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Praxidicae: here's the report. Sorry if I missed a step in handling this. ~Kvng (talk) 17:29, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah that's not a copyvio. Praxidicae (talk) 17:42, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- OK. Sorry for the false alarm. ~Kvng (talk) 17:44, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah that's not a copyvio. Praxidicae (talk) 17:42, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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SocialChorus (Software)
Hello Kvng, I noticed your username coming up in a range of articles about software, and was wondering if you may be able to help with a question I have.
I put together a draft of an article about a software company, SocialChorus, which can be found at Draft:SocialChorus,_Inc. I happen to know the founder of that company (someone who has since left the company) so instead of creating the article myself I disclosed my conflict of interest here on WP:COIN and another editor there helped submit the article through the Afc process. I've also disclosed my WP:COI with the major contributor/close connection template at the top of that draft, on the Talk page of that draft, and on my user page.
I've done a fair bit of homework to ensure that it meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. The company has been reported on in the media rather consistently over the ~12 years since it was formed, and I've cited sources in this draft from TechCrunch, VentureBeat, Silicon Valley Business Journal, etc. to help establish that. I also cited a few trade publications like HR Technologist but did so only to back up minor points vs. establishing notability.
My question -- since you are familiar with articles about software companies, would you consider reviewing this draft? Regards, JeffreyArthurVA (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Accepted. ~Kvng (talk) 16:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. Two final and hopefully simple questions for you:
- --Are you able to remove the close connection template from the mainspace article? My understanding from other articles is that my COI disclosure and the connected contributor template should remain (and has remained) on the article Talk page but the main article itself should no longer require that flag at the top. Is that accurate?
- --Are you able to add "SocialChorusLogo.png" (already on Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SocialChorusLogo.png to the logo section in the infobox? I originally had it in the draft but a bot removed it since that type of file is not permitted in draft space.
- Regards, JeffreyArthurVA (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Without doing a complete editing pass on the article, I am not comfortable removing or moving the {{COI}} banner. Other editors may feel differently but I think COI is too big of an issue to bury on the talk page.
- You should be able to add the logo yourself. If you need help, you can visit the WP:TEAHOUSE. ~Kvng (talk) 18:21, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Understood--thanks very much for the direction you've provided. JeffreyArthurVA (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello Kvng, it appears that this article has been nominated for deletion and there is a discussion going on about it at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/SocialChorus,_Inc.. Would you be able to weigh in on that discussion, since you took the time to review this draft during the Articles for Creation process and gave it a "C" class after putting it through the approval process? Regards, JeffreyArthurVA (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Renkus-Heinz Advert Tag
Hi! Hope you're doing well. I noticed you added an advertising tag to the Renkus-Heinz page back in May, and I'm wondering if you could give a little more context behind it. I'm new to editing on Wikipedia, so wanted to help however I can. Thanks! --Erin.buck (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Erin.buck, On review, I think I was being overly sensitive to WP:PROMO and resume-like issues. I have made some WP:NPOV improvements and removed the tag. Sorry about all the WP:SHORTCUTs in this reply hopefully clicking these will give you the context you've requested. Let me know if you have any further questions. ~Kvng (talk) 19:03, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, Thanks for providing the WP:SHORTCUT links! These are very helpful, and I see why you made the changes. Thanks for your help. --Erin.buck (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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You removed my comment on Joost de Valk AfD with the summary "rm extra negative". I don't understand what "extra negative" means? Please explain. Thanks, TryKid [dubious – discuss] 13:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- TryKid, sorry, WP:EDC I assume. Should be cleaned up now. ~Kvng (talk) 13:55, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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No proof that the finger is a digital signal
Discussion Please, correct Digital signal (disambiguation)! --Geysirhead (talk) 17:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- Geysirhead, thanks it was archived from my user talk page.
- Why do you think proof is required? ~Kvng (talk) 14:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nobody should think. It's rules.--Geysirhead (talk) 19:31, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Geysirhead: Yeah, policy. But what policy. We have WP:V for article content but I don't think that applies to disambig pages. IME the content there is at editor descretion and by consensus. I can try to get another editor involved or do an WP:RFC if we can't resolve this ourselves. ~Kvng (talk) 19:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- There is obviously no consensus.--Geysirhead (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Geysirhead, which generally means that we leave things as they are. I did not add this so there is at least one other editor out there who thinks this is a valid entry and I don't think anyone but you has suggested it be removed. On reflection, I don't think it is an important enough point for an WP:RFC but you may disagree and want to set one up or otherwise look for more input. ~Kvng (talk) 16:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! But, why are pinky swear approach and index finger not digital signals?--Geysirhead (talk) 18:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Geysirhead, I think it is usually best to focus on the question before us, not WP:OTHERSTUFF. ~Kvng (talk) 23:44, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! But, why are pinky swear approach and index finger not digital signals?--Geysirhead (talk) 18:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Geysirhead, which generally means that we leave things as they are. I did not add this so there is at least one other editor out there who thinks this is a valid entry and I don't think anyone but you has suggested it be removed. On reflection, I don't think it is an important enough point for an WP:RFC but you may disagree and want to set one up or otherwise look for more input. ~Kvng (talk) 16:50, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- There is obviously no consensus.--Geysirhead (talk) 14:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Geysirhead: Yeah, policy. But what policy. We have WP:V for article content but I don't think that applies to disambig pages. IME the content there is at editor descretion and by consensus. I can try to get another editor involved or do an WP:RFC if we can't resolve this ourselves. ~Kvng (talk) 19:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Nobody should think. It's rules.--Geysirhead (talk) 19:31, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hello. I have answered about notability in talk page. Could you review and comment answer? Alexandr.gavriluk (talk) 21:07, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, sorry for delay. I updated discussion with new arguments.Alexandr.gavriluk (talk) 02:00, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. Please give your expert advice on Draft:Creatio. This is an article on low-code development platform that I changed from the company article to the software article. It is a properly stated WP:COI contribution. Since you have great experience of editing and reviewing computer-related articles, I decided to ask for you advice on what could/should be improved in this article. Thank you in advance! --Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bbarmadillo, first thing I would ask is for you to identify the WP:THREE best sources you've cited that establish notability of the subject. ~Kvng (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- It will probably be: 1) ZDMet article on CRM Idol 2011 award, 2) 2020 PC Magazine review and 3) 2020 Stevie Awards. But, obviously, Forrester Research and Gartner reviews are good sources as well. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:09, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- That looks good and I have left a note on the draft to that effect.
- The other hurdle is WP:NPOV. Because of your WP:COI, that will need to be looked at carefully. ~Kvng (talk) 22:14, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Kvng:, are there any particular issues related to WP:NPOV that you see? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bbarmadillo, the shorter the draft is, the less likely it will have these problems. ~Kvng (talk) 20:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng I shortened the article per your suggestion, removing less important facts and awards. Please check. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 11:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- Bbarmadillo, the shorter the draft is, the less likely it will have these problems. ~Kvng (talk) 20:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Kvng:, are there any particular issues related to WP:NPOV that you see? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Feedback on Enhanced_Transmission_Selection
Dear Kvng, I have done a Draft page on a "Enhanced Transmission Selection" (ETS), which is a network scheduler scheduling algorithm that has be defined by the 802.1Qaz working group.
Could you please have a look ? Regards, MarcBoyerONERA (talk) 16:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Scott Teal
Hello,
Just saw the recent feedback as to my submission for the article 'Scott Teal'.
Is there a Help Desk (or through you) that I can just field a general question? I'm still really confused on the credibility of some sources, yet on another page for someone prominent in the wrestling business (Gary Michael Cappetta) - there's 2 citations TOTAL and one of them is a dead link. I'm just trying to understand why my sources and citations on a published author are having trouble passing review.
Thank you.
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- @AkiraZueshi: you can request general help at WP:TEAHOUSE. AfC specific help is available at WP:AFCHD. See WP:OTHERSTUFF if you are tempted to compare your draft to other articles. ~Kvng (talk) 13:27, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
The artist has agreed to the CC BY-SA 4.0. (Draft:Hu Zhiying)
Hi Kvng, The artist (Hu Zhiying) has agreed to the CC BY-SA 4.0. see here. Thank you.--Jujiang (talk) 20:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Jujiang, I have noted this where I reported it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 September 2 ~Kvng (talk) 01:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- So, what can I do now? Thank you.--Jujiang (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Jujiang, you can start by checking your "see here" link above - I'm just getting a login page there. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems for a description of the process. If you want to add any other information to the case, edit the draft's entry at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 September 2. ~Kvng (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- I have added information to the case. How long will it take to resolve this issue? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Jujiang, getting the copyright issue sorted may take a week or two then you'll need to resubmit the draft and get through the queue of other submissions waiting to be reviewed which may take over two months. ~Kvng (talk) 14:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- After the copyright issue is resolved, you have reviewed the article. If there are no other issues, can you please publish it to avoid waiting for 2 months more? Thank you! ~ Jujiang (talk) 15:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't re-review submissions. You will need to wait for a new reviewer. I'm sorry that we don't currently have enough volunteers to review submissions in a timely manner. Before resubmitting, please make sure you meet WP:N and WP:NPOV requirements. These are our most commone reasons for rejection. ~Kvng (talk) 15:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- OK. Thank you for your reply. I think the draft should conform to WP:N and WP:NPOV requirements.--Jujiang (talk) 12:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Kvng, Can you tell me why three weeks have passed and the issue has not been solved? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 02:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- I do not know but you might try asking MER-C who seems to do a lot of this WP:COPYVIO work. n case you are not aware, everyone working on Wikipedia is a WP:VOLUNTEER improving the encyclopedia as we individually choose with WP:NODEADLINES. ~Kvng (talk) 13:56, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot host CC BY-SA 4.0 text. I also choose not to copyright clear COI or promotional content on principle and don't have OTRS access. MER-C 16:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- @MER-C:@Kvng:Can you send back the draft for me to submit it after making changes? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 21:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jujiang: Your quickest way forward is probably to request that this draft be deleted (see WP:HOWTODELETE) and start again without using any copyrighted material. Also, if you have a conflict of interest you need to WP:DISCLOSE that up front or risk getting snagged once again. ~Kvng (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- After deleting, can I keep the rest of the draft the same? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jujiang: It is OK to reuse any non-copyrighted material. ~Kvng (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- I have no conflict of interest. How to delete the draft? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 13:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jujiang: It is OK to reuse any non-copyrighted material. ~Kvng (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- After deleting, can I keep the rest of the draft the same? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Jujiang: Your quickest way forward is probably to request that this draft be deleted (see WP:HOWTODELETE) and start again without using any copyrighted material. Also, if you have a conflict of interest you need to WP:DISCLOSE that up front or risk getting snagged once again. ~Kvng (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- @MER-C:@Kvng:Can you send back the draft for me to submit it after making changes? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 21:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot host CC BY-SA 4.0 text. I also choose not to copyright clear COI or promotional content on principle and don't have OTRS access. MER-C 16:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- I do not know but you might try asking MER-C who seems to do a lot of this WP:COPYVIO work. n case you are not aware, everyone working on Wikipedia is a WP:VOLUNTEER improving the encyclopedia as we individually choose with WP:NODEADLINES. ~Kvng (talk) 13:56, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Kvng, Can you tell me why three weeks have passed and the issue has not been solved? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 02:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- OK. Thank you for your reply. I think the draft should conform to WP:N and WP:NPOV requirements.--Jujiang (talk) 12:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't re-review submissions. You will need to wait for a new reviewer. I'm sorry that we don't currently have enough volunteers to review submissions in a timely manner. Before resubmitting, please make sure you meet WP:N and WP:NPOV requirements. These are our most commone reasons for rejection. ~Kvng (talk) 15:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- After the copyright issue is resolved, you have reviewed the article. If there are no other issues, can you please publish it to avoid waiting for 2 months more? Thank you! ~ Jujiang (talk) 15:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- Jujiang, getting the copyright issue sorted may take a week or two then you'll need to resubmit the draft and get through the queue of other submissions waiting to be reviewed which may take over two months. ~Kvng (talk) 14:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I have added information to the case. How long will it take to resolve this issue? Thank you. --Jujiang (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Jujiang, you can start by checking your "see here" link above - I'm just getting a login page there. See Wikipedia:Copyright problems for a description of the process. If you want to add any other information to the case, edit the draft's entry at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 September 2. ~Kvng (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- So, what can I do now? Thank you.--Jujiang (talk) 01:53, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
This is with reference to your comment on draft page Farhan Malhi
Farhan Mali is an actor and instagram star, As desired by ~Kvng , i am sharing the THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject:
Thanks --Smilesinlife (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
References
- Responded at Draft talk:Farhan Malhi ~Kvng (talk) 13:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks --Kvng (talk), as per your guidance i have redrafted the page with updated links of authentic news websites and leading TV Channels websites mentioning Farhan Malhi for his work in TV industry of Pakistan,I shall be thankful if you can review again the draft.
Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smilesinlife (talk • contribs) 06:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
- Smilesinlife, I do not rereview drafts. Another of our reviewers will be by in due course to have a look. ~Kvng (talk) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Moving {{FOLDOC}} to talk pages
Template:FOLDOC says "This template should be placed in the "References" or "External links" section."; has that policy changed? Guy Harris (talk) 01:30, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- Guy Harris, I believe we have consensus for a change at Template_talk:FOLDOC#Readers_don't_care_about_this!. Feel free to weigh in if you like. I will make a WP:BOLD change to the template documentation. ~Kvng (talk) 14:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Feedback request: Engineering and technology Good Article nomination
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Copyvios
Please stop marking whether a page passes its copyvio check. While I've only seen it happen once so far, a user can make a big edit to the page after you edit and introduce copyvio material; we should not be giving other reviewers the implication that something is clean when it might not be. Primefac (talk) 18:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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Theroadislong (talk) 19:30, 14 October 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Harriet Zinnes has been accepted
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MapleSoy (talk) 19:23, 15 October 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Yango (ride sharing) (October 20)
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Bkissin (talk) 20:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)I try ...
Any time you want to review a draft differently than I, you can do so without telling me. In fact, I usually try not to review a second time unless I'm following up something. But of course, if you also want to tell me what I could have done better, please do so. One of the problems of every experienced editor is is that people sometimes don't wish to correct us, or to tell us we messed up. DGG ( talk ) 18:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- DGG, if I do stuff without telling you about it, neither of us gets any better at this. You've said you're receptive to correction. I don't do that very often but I do ask questions and hopefully, that serves the same purpose for both of us.
- I want to follow up on your comment at Draft:John Kilner. I don't think the draft is the right place to continue the conversation. I do not agree that if I accept a flawed article as a reviewer, I'm obliged to improve it. Articles in mainspace are improved by the community. I do a lot of article improvements in my areas of expertise. Much of my reviewing is outside these areas and so it is better for others to make the improvements. ~Kvng (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I should have said more exactly, that if it's in my central field, I usually try to at least minimally fix it, but very rarely to rewrite it. (however, that's also true to a considerable extent if I come across any article on a university or professor that needs work); if it's out of my central field, I often try to make at least one copyedit to indicate that I actually have read the draft, in contrast to the reviewers who are approving (or more likely, declining) without having done more than look at the lead paragraph or even just the title.
- I at least in principal try to rewrite extensively at least one a week. In practice, I can't really do more than that, though long ago I more ambitiously tried to do one each day.
- All of this seems compatible with your approach. The main difference between us is that I very much do focus reviewing on my specialty--but also on obvious promotionalism . I can do many more that way and I feel the pressure of getting them done.
- In a different direction, there's distinctions between people doing something differently, people doing things chronically wrong, and someone doing an isolated error. For myself, with respect to isolated errors, I do not at all mind being told about my isolated errors, but I don't at all think that it's at all necessary, as long as it gets fixed. Reciprocally, when I fix someone else's error, if it is just an error, I usually don't tell them. If they are looking at their watchlist, they will see them. (I don't look at mine--I think almost nobody very active --it's just too much). If I am making repeated or chronic errors, I certainly want to know. It's quite easy to drift from the consensus or the usual interpretation without realizing it. I will sometimes but not always notify others--again, there's too much to do and I try to keep track mentally of when someone is doing something frequently enough to comment; i experiment with various hopefully gentle styles of doing the commenting. The real difficulty comes when two people each think that they are right and the other person wrong--I am very selective in trying to deal with these; it is much too easy here to spend all one's effort in fighting. . As for comparing different ways of doing things thata re equally right this is always helpful, but again, there's time to do it only very selectively. DGG ( talk ) 00:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Dear Kvng Please check some new referencies. Thank you so much.
References
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- @Mariana Cordeiro de Lima: the first looks like it is based closely on a press release. The second is very brief and doesn't have a byline. In summary, neither are clearly WP:RELIABLE sources. ~Kvng (talk) 16:59
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Snowycats (talk) 23:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Samarppanam (October 28)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Nueva Guipúzcoa (October 29)
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Robert McClenon, Oops I had automatic Google translate on in my browser when I reviewed this one. Sorry about that. ~Kvng (talk) 21:04, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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@Snowycats: I had already made the decision to accept this and was waiting for a redirect in the way to be deleted when you declined it. The redirect has been deleted. I have resubmitted and accepted it. Although it may be rough and not expertly referenced, adequate sources exist and in my assessment, it is unlikely to be deleted. ~Kvng (talk) 00:34, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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I posted a long reply to your inquiry to me on my user talk page. I don't know whether you saw it so I thought I'd alert you. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Liz, I saw it. I excuse and forgive all mistakes. I'm sorry the categories are messed up and making things harder for you. ~Kvng (talk) 00:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, we're good, that's what I cared about. I see your good work, reviewing stale drafts, and am happy to see AfC folks rescue promising work, pages whose creators often seem to have disappeared the day after they created the draft article. Liz Read! Talk! 01:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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~Kvng (talk) 17:50, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Film Hawk has been accepted
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~Kvng (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Jost Kobusch (November 1)
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~Kvng (talk) 14:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Smart Metrology has been accepted
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Call setup moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Call setup, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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- Modussiccandi, please revert this move. I am not going to work on it in draft space. If you don't think the stub is suitable for mainspace, please send it to WP:AFD. ~Kvng (talk) 16:09, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- The stub didn't have any sources, but I did not find it obvious that the subject is non-notable. I appreciate that moving to draft is not an alternative to the deletion process. The combination of potential notability and a lack of sources caused me to draftify. What's wrong with incubating the article in the draft space? Since it doesn't have any sources, I don't think it should be restored to the mainspace.
- Modussiccandi, I am not going to work on it in draft space. I doubt anyone else will either. If you don't think the stub is suitable for mainspace, please send it to WP:AFD. ~Kvng (talk) 16:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- The stub didn't have any sources, but I did not find it obvious that the subject is non-notable. I appreciate that moving to draft is not an alternative to the deletion process. The combination of potential notability and a lack of sources caused me to draftify. What's wrong with incubating the article in the draft space? Since it doesn't have any sources, I don't think it should be restored to the mainspace.
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This type of edit does get picked up by Copy Patrol and a good edit summary helps to make sure we don't accidentally revert it. However, for future use, would you note the best practices wording as outlined at Wikipedia:Copying_within_Wikipedia? In particular, adding the phrase "see that page's history for attribution" helps ensure that proper attribution is preserved.
I've noticed that this guideline is not very well known, even among editors with tens of thousands of edits, so it isn't surprising that I point this out to some veteran editors, but there are some t's that you need to be crossed.S Philbrick(Talk) 19:53, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sphilbrick, it would seem to me that "see that page's history for attribution" would be reasonably self-evident to anyone familiar with how Wikipedia works but it is an explicit recommendation so I will try to follow it going forward. ~Kvng (talk) 16:17, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, I won't disagree with the notion that it is blazingly obvious to anyone "familiar with how Wikipedia works" but Wikipedia is read by a lot of people who don't pass that threshold. While anecdotal, I've talked with a number of people who have access Wikipedia many times, but many of those people had never seen a talk page nor a history page. I think people with a lot of experience may underestimate how little the typical reader knows. If we were debating public guideline should read, I wouldn't be at all surprised if I were persuaded that your formulation should be considered adequate. However, the current guideline starts out "at a minimum" and goes on to propose wording. It even goes on to suggest some optional additional steps, cementing the notion that the proposed wording is minimum guidance. Perhaps the community should reevaluate whether this guideline is asking too much. On occasion, I've mauled over how to make this guideline better known, but it comes up really enough that I can't justify much effort to raise its profile. S Philbrick(Talk) 19:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sphilbrick, I agree that there are very many who just read Wikipedia and have no idea how it works. You do, however, have to be familiar with how Wikipedia works to see the "see that page's history for attribution" message. For those that know enough to find this message, the message is arguably unnecessary. For other readers, it is unseen, so also unnecessary.
- The nut of it is, to preserve proper attribution, it is critical that editors give a wikilink when copying from another article. Anything beyond may be unnecessary. In some cases, it may even be counterproductive. The {{copied}} template, for instance, repeats information in the article histories. This raises the potential, through human error, that the template doesn't match the history which, I'm sure you can appreciate, is a bad thing. ~Kvng (talk) 21:37, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, You make some great points. I'm intrigued that you say a link may be critical. I've seen situation where the "from" article in in plain text, and I've let that go. Your argument makes sense, though. S Philbrick(Talk) 17:38, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sphilbrick, sorry, I didn't mean to be that specific. What's critical is identifying the source. As long as it is clear from the comment which article the material came from, the critical requirement is satisfied: wikilink, URL or unambiguous article name in plain text may all be satisfactory ~Kvng (talk) 17:49, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, You make some great points. I'm intrigued that you say a link may be critical. I've seen situation where the "from" article in in plain text, and I've let that go. Your argument makes sense, though. S Philbrick(Talk) 17:38, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Kvng, I won't disagree with the notion that it is blazingly obvious to anyone "familiar with how Wikipedia works" but Wikipedia is read by a lot of people who don't pass that threshold. While anecdotal, I've talked with a number of people who have access Wikipedia many times, but many of those people had never seen a talk page nor a history page. I think people with a lot of experience may underestimate how little the typical reader knows. If we were debating public guideline should read, I wouldn't be at all surprised if I were persuaded that your formulation should be considered adequate. However, the current guideline starts out "at a minimum" and goes on to propose wording. It even goes on to suggest some optional additional steps, cementing the notion that the proposed wording is minimum guidance. Perhaps the community should reevaluate whether this guideline is asking too much. On occasion, I've mauled over how to make this guideline better known, but it comes up really enough that I can't justify much effort to raise its profile. S Philbrick(Talk) 19:27, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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~Kvng (talk) 03:53, 24 November 2020 (UTC)Ethernet: Revert of my edit
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Please let me know why you reverted my edit for the page Ethernet. Generally, people are used to seeing representations of data (and their rates) in bytes, not bits. I felt that adding the speeds in bytes as notes was a good compromise.
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Hi Kvng! I'm a student working on the project Draft:Ville Sbertoli. I'd like to kindly ask you if you could give a look at our project page to give us your feedback about what we could improve in order to have our page online before the 31 December, the deadline of the project. We submitted the page at the beginning of December and we have been said that it should have been online within two or three weeks maximum, but it hasn't been accepted yet. Thank you in advance. Alagna2000 (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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User talk:Tagishsimon is suppressing Draft:CalFile, can you help? This is an article is about a free government service. Thus not an advert. I created [Draft:CalFile]] as a companion to ReadyReturn.
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Is streaming audio "broadcast" from one wifi router to many wifi-enabled cell phones possible? Sorta like UDP for wired networks...?
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Hello there, I'm writing you in hopes you can and willing to review my draft... I added a few sources and I would like to point out a few of them please: maariv, jewishagency, dnb, govextra.gov and ynet are all huge sites in israel and two are very big and well known news sites (Maariv and ynet).. isnt that enough? Please have anouther look, its an amazing very big non-profit organization in Israel and helps so many kids and youth (myself included back then) as well known thorghout the world. If still its not enough, please be king to let me know what I should do... thank you, Shir2020 (talk) 15:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Shir2020, thanks for improving your draft. I'm afraid that, unless I'm convinced I've made a mistake, I only review drafts once ~Kvng (talk) 15:55, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- so what should i do? and I think you have since the sources are very good... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shir2020 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Shir2020, it is in the queue. You wait for another reviewer to have a look. ~Kvng (talk) 16:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- so what should i do? and I think you have since the sources are very good... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shir2020 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Kvng - I saw you recently edited Extreme Networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Networks. I wanted to get your thoughts on removing the templated message at the top about the article being written like an advertisement. That message looks like it was added in 2010 - over 11 years ago. Extreme Networks has acquired several companies since and the page has been rewritten numerous times. As such, I feel as though this statement is outdated. What is your advice for removing it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisaytn (talk • contribs) 19:35, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Lisaytn: You should repost this at Talk:Extreme Networks and see if any other editors have input. I have been trying to address this issue with recent edits. There's still more work to be done so I'm not sure whether we're ready to remove the banner. ~Kvng (talk) 13:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Kvng: Thank you for the input! I added the question to Talk:Extreme Networks. ~Lisaytn
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TomTom business structure follow-up
Hi there, Kvng, thanks for weighing-in at the TomTom Talk page about changes to the section about its business structure. If no other editors weigh-in, would you be willing to implement the proposed changes as you see fit? I will not do so myself because of my conflict of interest as an employee. I understand it may be appropriate to allow volunteer editors more time to weigh-in, I'll defer to your judgment as to the best timing, if you are interested to help. Thanks again for your thoughts, and in advance for any further consideration. Best, Murley from TomTom (talk) 13:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you for your recent review of the OpenVMS article, and upgrading it from a class C to class B article. I am wondering if you have any specific feedback or recommendations on things that could be done to improve the article further? Vt320 (talk) 09:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Vt320, the next quality grade is good article. If request a GA review, you'll get detailed suggestions. Although I've been through the GA process a few times with articles I've worked on, I haven't participated on the reviewer side for anything better than B - I guess don't enjoy the bureaucratic and detail-oriented work required. ~Kvng (talk) 01:44, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 08:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Jaime Gómez Velásquez has been accepted
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FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 08:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)Regarding reversion of edits in Line code entry
Dear Kvng,
I'd like you to review your undo at my contribution in the Digital_signal article as "not closely related". I'm associated professor at the University of Malaga and I have taught Digital Data Communication over 15 years, including the OSI physical level and extensively explaining the use of Digital Signals and Digital Analog Modulations and every perturbation caused by the medium. The simulator that I linked to the page was written precisely to allow students to understand and experiment by themselves with coding of messages using digital signals and analog modulations. If you review the simulator, you will see that each exact topic of the article is reflected there as it was written following the contents the university level course on data codification.
Also, any suspicion about spamming can be discarded, as the simulator was written as a free HTML tool with an Creative Commons License (Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike) as my intention is that it can be used in Universities and Schools with minimum resources to teach technology. I think it is closely in synchrony with the spirit of Wikipedia.
I'd appreciate if you restored my edit as I'd like not to start a ping-pong of undo and reverts. Best regards, G-DACUMA (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- G-DACUMA, I have copied your comments to Talk:Digital_signal#CodSim_link and restored the link. ~Kvng (talk) 14:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kvng, Thank you. I'm beginning my collaboration in wikipedia and I'm not completely sure about the right procedures to discuss possible contributions. A very ancient version of the program was welcome by University teachers who asked permission to use it. 20 years after that, I discovered that no pedagogic software exists yet to study digital encoding. I think it's worth the interest of students looking for information in wikipedia.~User:G-DACUMA (talk) 19:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- G-DACUMA, thanks for your contribution and welcome. Let me know if you have any questions about how Wikipedia works. ~Kvng (talk) 17:41, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Kvng. I saw that you have an interest in tech/software pages and was involved on the Comparison of CRM systems. I requested a few changes to the Zendesk page a month or so ago and was hoping you might be willing to give them a lookover? Let me know. Best regards. Tskillin (talk) 20:05, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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Missvain (talk) 02:38, 14 May 2021 (UTC)Operational amplifier
Could you take a look at this edit of yours? It broke something causing a header to render as Internal circuitry of 741Page Template:Visible anchor/styles.css has no content.-type op amp
, but I can't see what the problem is. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:40, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
- RoySmith, the problem was here. You can't use numbers as unnamed parameters. I've fixed it. ~Kvng (talk) 01:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for starting a discussion about the rankings at Boulder, Colorado. I occasionally get pushback when I delete rankings, and ideally would like to take this to an RfC. You're an experienced editor, so hopefully there will be some good discussion. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:50, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Magnolia677, Thanks for the comprehensive explaination at Talk:Boulder,_Colorado#Rankings_section. It's likely you'd get less pushback if you used less dismissive edit comments for these deletions. ~Kvng (talk) 12:21, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
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Theroadislong (talk) 18:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Request on 18:27:18, 17 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin
You declined to accept my article Town Lake Park Alliance, questioning its lack of original references. The problem is that most of the original references would be to newspaper articles that are no longer on line via the original publisher, the Austin American-Statesman. To counter this problem, I cited a Wordpress piece, History of the Town Lake Park Alliance, which I, the author Larry Akers, cited in the Wiki. For the Wordpress piece, I scanned hundreds of original newsprint articles, created PDFs, and linked them, with context, to the Wordpress piece. The bibliography of this piece has over 200 references to original documents, which are stored in conjunction with the piece and NOWHERE ELSE ON LINE. Other source materials for the piece were original newsletters published during the 1980's and which now exist only in the archive that was assembled to support the Wordpress article. Some, including Statesman articles published after 1988 and a handful from the Austin Chronicle, are on line via those newspapers' archives, but most of the material is unavailable anywhere but via the Wordpress package for the history. The entire package has been submitted to the Austin History Center, where it will be posted on their new on-line portal when they get around to it, which could take a long time, as they have an entire city's history to post. Until then, most of the original supporting documents for this Wiki article appear only via the Wordpress piece, which is a definitive, scrupulously researched and authoritative, detailed work of history.
So, if you would like me to enhance the bibliography of the Wiki page, I would be happy to include the entire bibliography of the Wordpress piece. The bibliography text alone would run ten pages or so. But if you would still not accept it, because many of its cited pages exist on line (for the time being) only on the Wordpress site on which the full history is posted, then I am at a complete loss as to how to present the material in a way that would satisfy you. If you wanted the Wordpress links scrubbed, then there would be no reasonable way to otherwise validate the existence of the original source material.
I suggest, if you doubt any of this, that you examine the Akers piece cited in the Wiki bibliography and examine the contents of its links to all the original sourced material. There are links from both its bibliography section and in-line in the exposition.
I have had this issue with your editors before. It signals a systemic problem. How can a historian post authoritative, original supporting material that meets your standards if blog sites are his only viable venue? Why should Wiki articles be vetoed because original source material can be posted only on a blog site, and there is no alternative? I can understand that you have a heavy workload, but before vetoing a publication, could you not check even one layer deep into a principal citation before scrapping someone's entire effort? I have poured months into this research and stand behind it with my entire soul. What does a guy have to do?
Larry Akers, under the account FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin
FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin, There is no problem using offline sources to support a Wikipedia article. Sorry that I missed the fact that your Wordpress page contained its own references. Self-published pieces like this on their own are not usually considered good sources. We're looking for significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. What's needed is for you to add at least WP:THREE of these sources directly to the draft - including a direct link to the scan would be helpful but is not required. Keep in mind that multiple reports published by the same newspaper count as one source. Also note that WP:AUD requires more than local coverage so if you can include a source published outside Austin, that would help. ~Kvng (talk) 15:00, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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Re your assertion of puffery in the article on Dynamic Tonality
I have undone your edit. Please see the talk page of said article, in which I make my case for deleted claim not being puffery. If you have a suggestion on how to make its non-puffery more obvious to future reviewers, I would welcome that suggestion. --JimPlamondon (talk) 01:37, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- See discussion at Talk:Dynamic_tonality#"Puffery"? ~Kvng (talk) 14:53, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Draft:Overseas Security Advisory Council // Copyright Rejection
Hello,
All text and information in the rejected article is in the public domain and is NOT copyright, expressly disclosed here: https://www.osac.gov/About/Disclaimer. This includes the following link: https://gy.usembassy.gov/ambassador-lynch-remarks-at-overseas-security-advisory-council-meeting/.
Can you please provide additional context as to why it was rejected, given the lack of copyright material?
Thank you, --Falor1921 (talk) 23 July 2021
- @Falor1921: It looks like I made a mistake. Please resubmit the draft. I will take another look when I get a chance or another reviewer will. ~Kvng (talk) 14:41, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kvng: Thank you so much! Very much appreciated. Falor1921 (talk) 02:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
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The work on Differential signalling is coming along
Hi, SpinningSpark and I have written a response to your query on the Differential signalling talk page. Would you like to be pinged as the discussion proceedes?
Anyways, we have made some more edits to the article in the last few days and would be interested in your feedback.
Thanks Gutten på Hemsen (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Discussion at Talk:Differential_signalling#Confused_advantages ~Kvng (talk) 17:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Further Discussion re: Cloudflare
I wanted to alert you that I’ve proposed some compromise language at an RfC where you’ve been active: Talk:Cloudflare/Archives/2021#Request for Comment: Cloudflare Controversy section. I also withdrew the RfC so this can be an ordinary discussion. I'd be very appreciative if you’d weigh in.
On another part of the same Talk page, multiple editors have weighed in on the First Request regarding outages at Cloudflare. Talk:Cloudflare/Archives/2021#Further Discussion for Proposals June 2021
Everyone was notified on 30 August 2021 and one has objected to the proposed language that you said was an improvement. If you think enough time has passed, would you be good enough to implement this proposed language? I would do it, but I can’t, as I have a disclosed COI - unless you specifically direct me on the Talk page to do the implementation.
Many thanks for your attention. Ryanknight24 (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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Tanks for the welcome. I was just making a translation for the spanish wiki and noticed the blooper. I mainly contribute there, but I always willing to help to correct an obvious error.
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IETF RFC link=no
Hello Kvng, you have recently been adding 'link=no' options to {{IETF RFC}} calls. I am trying to figure out why you do this, as I cannot see any differences in the template's output... The documentation of 'link=no' is also not helping: the example shows links to external sources whether or not you say 'link=yes' or 'link=no'. I am currently working on a new template for generating RFCs, so I would like your input on that. —— Dandor iD (talk) 08:33, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dandorid: without the parameter. {{IETF RFC}} includes a wikilink link to the Request for Comments article followed by the external link to the RFC content.
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supresses the former. I've been adding this where there are a lot of {{IETF RFC}} instances in an article to avoid the redundant and back-to-back links. I've made improvements to the {{IETF RFC}} documentation. ~Kvng (talk) 14:18, 1 November 2021 (UTC)- @Kvng: It takes a keen eye, but yes, I see it now. Will do this as well. Thanks for the clarification. —— Dandor iD (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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you could help by adding sections in the hundred or so other countries who also have basically the same standards. you restate the previous information but with a German, (Germany?) bias. It's also unsourced trivia, grammatically incorrect, and you seem to have a vested interest in the reference. watching this space. SkidMountTubularFrame (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- @SkidMountTubularFrame: Probably best to start a discussion at Talk:Audio engineer. ~Kvng (talk) 23:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Jay Shetty
Hey Kvng, in Special:Diff/1054684234, you state that you didn't see any mention of the source at Wikipedia:New page patrol source guide or Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Both them have it listed though, search for "Republic TV". Tayi Arajakate Talk 14:34, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Tayi Arajakate: Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I have replaced the source with what I presume is a better one. ~Kvng (talk) 15:11, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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FYI, attempted de-orphan
Hi Kvng, While going through articles for WP Football cleanup, I found article Carmine Biagio Gatti and saw the de-orphan attempt. Since that person's article shows a birth-place, I added Gatti to "People" section of Avellino & so was able to successfully de-orphan. Just wanted to share this with you, FYI. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 16:51, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
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MobiCast article
Given the first paragraph, do you think it should be separated into two articles with a disambiguation page, or "for the other kind" links at the top? Bill Woodcock (talk) 16:26, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Bwoodcock: probably two with crosslinked hatnotes (see WP:ONEOTHER). But, before putting any effort into improvements I would spend a little time to assess whether either of these topics is sufficiently notable to warrant a stand-alone article. ~Kvng (talk) 18:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- There was an AfD "keep, no consensus" way back in 2005. It certainly doesn't seem notable to me but I vaguely recall one of the patent holders contesting that pretty vociferously, when someone (perhaps me, I don't remember) suggested that sometime more recently. I guess my thought was that if it really is two different things, one or both of which are not a thing, disambiguating them from each other (yes, I agree, with a hatnote) might bee a good first step toward figuring out whether there's anything to either one of them. I'll take a stab at it. Bill Woodcock (talk) 20:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MobiCast (2nd nomination) Bill Woodcock (talk) 09:27, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- Aaaaaand: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/MobiCast_(cellular_networking), since there was an unspecified objection to the WP:PROD. Bill Woodcock (talk) 11:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MobiCast (2nd nomination) Bill Woodcock (talk) 09:27, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
- There was an AfD "keep, no consensus" way back in 2005. It certainly doesn't seem notable to me but I vaguely recall one of the patent holders contesting that pretty vociferously, when someone (perhaps me, I don't remember) suggested that sometime more recently. I guess my thought was that if it really is two different things, one or both of which are not a thing, disambiguating them from each other (yes, I agree, with a hatnote) might bee a good first step toward figuring out whether there's anything to either one of them. I'll take a stab at it. Bill Woodcock (talk) 20:14, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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Request on 01:33:55, 7 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin
As per your suggestions of July 2021, I resubmitted my Town Lake Park Alliance draft in August. I just received notice that unless I modified my draft, it would be considered abandoned and deleted. I had been waiting all this time for a review of my re-submission, but that has not happened. Just now I made additional changes, simply to guarantee the piece would not die in place.
I did add references to Austin American Statesman articles that do exist on line and, as I recall, to others, including the television station archives. However, as I explained at the time, most of the originally published (by the local major newspaper, several local newsletters, and the City of Austin has not ever existed on-line. I created PDF's of hundreds of those original documents and linked them through the history piece in citation 1. Because this history sits only on a Wordpress site and not yet on the Austin History Center site (pending, though they now have all the original documents), it was rejected out of hand. This was an incorrect judgement that overlooked the Wordpress piece's links to the only on-line primary, published, original documentation on the subject.
Please take another look and finally accept this submission.
Thanks, Larry Akers
FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin (talk) 01:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @FriendsOfTheParksOfAustin, When a draft is declined, you need to improve it and resubmit. I'm not sure what happened in August. It looks like the draft was most recently resubmitted today. There is no threat of deletion while the draft waits to be reviewed again. Another reviewer will have a look at it in the next weeks. ~Kvng (talk) 14:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Stigler's law of eponymy in Moore's law
Stigler's law of eponymy deals only with the name of who came up with a particular law. If you say that it is debatable that Stigler's law of eponymy doesn't apply to Moore's law, then you imply that the law doesn't have the name of the person who really came up with it. Therefore you imply that it was House and not Moore who came up with the law. But because you also state that House came up with 18 months, the law would have to be for 18 months. But because in the article the period of time associated is 2 years, for your revert to make sense you would have to change that time duration at the beginning of th e article. So which is which?--Gciriani (talk) 16:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Gciriani: my concern is that laypeople typically have the 18-month number for performance in mind when they talk about Moore's law; they should technically be talking about House's law but no one does. I assume, since you did not provide a citation, that the Stigler's law observation is your own. If so, that's arguably original research. If not, I apologize and will help get this information included. ~Kvng (talk) 14:21, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- You may be right. I'll add it to the article implying the opposite, and citing the already present references.--Gciriani (talk) 19:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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Hello, Thanks for taking a look at the Draft:Duane_McRuer article. I made some notes on the Draft_talk:Duane_McRuer page re the top sources for notability. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Joe Jbgeddes3 (talk) 00:59, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Jbgeddes3, thanks and congratulations. I have accepted the draft. ~Kvng (talk) 14:30, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:45, 22 March 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Re-added duplicate sentence? "History of radio"
I don't understand. Unless I misunderstood what you were saying, the sentence didn't need to be duplicated, but when you reverted my edit, you put it back in. The two sentences really do deliver exactly the same information, just phrased differently. Granted, the second version was worded more awkwardly and included some errors, but I saw no reason to clean up a sentence that just restated information that had been said before.
Please explain your reasoning. --JDspeeder1 (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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Dear Kvng. I am so sorry for using a copyrighted text. It was not my inttention. Well, I rewrote the entire article and this time using my own words. Could you please check if it complies with Wikipedia's policies? Thank you.