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20 February 2018


Welcome! Hello, Meco/Archive01, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  — Ambush Commander(Talk) 23:50, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


Well, given that the English language Wikipedia is the only one with a different Meco, and knowing that my bot only links what has been previously linked when running in automatic mode, I found out that some othe bot, at the Netherlandish Wikipedia is to blame this error.[1]

Sorry for the inconvenience. I have corrected in all affected wikipedias so that no other automatic bot will link (unless trying to link pages with the same name in non-supervised mode).

Carlos Th (talk) 18:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Testing the {{Helpme}} template[edit]

I'm hanging out in the #wikipedia-bootcamp IRC channel to see how the pgkbot notifies when I add {{Helpme}}on my Talk page. The reason is that I'm tentatively translating the template for and would like to know if the bot could make the same notifications on the Norwegian channel #wikipedia-no where Norwegian admins and other able to assist Norwegian newbie users hang out. --meco 09:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

So far I've learned that it's Helpmebot and not pgkbot that does the announcing. --meco 10:08, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I have terminated the test.--Commander Keane 10:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

hi meco[edit]

the following is a piece of text ive put on the clairvoyance tak page after they deleted the clairsentience article completely and redirected the whole page to clairvoyince...... childish said , "one might need stamina to persist in the present zeitgiest" .....zeitgiest i could deal with ... but playground games i have little or no patience for.....Thesource42 16:57, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

hi guys[edit]

i see youve redirected the clairsentience article.... let me ask....what was the point of the weeks of discussions and rewrites if you guys were going to redirect it should have told me t get lost out of here...... what was the point of it all? why did i listen to you ? at all? why did i remove all personal references? why did i reference and source all of my matereal diligently and in great detail ? why did i edit and re edit for style and content ? why did i make additional references to religios , anthropological ,socialogical , philosophical ,medical , physics , chemistry , botany , mental health etc so that all views were included and respected? why did i fulfill all of the above hurdles and hoops to fulfill wikpedia formatting and guidlines for you too to delete months of hard work and effort. your actions are without integrity or honour .....

clairsentience article redirect ?[edit]

Hi ..... whoever removed the clairsentience article and made it redirect ... can you please try and respect that the article that was there had evolved over a couple of months of discussion and many rewrites and multiple edits which involved much discussion over a long period...............i could delete this clairvoyance article.... but i wont because revert and delete wars then stupidly take place which is a real shame when a library becomes a bar room brawl........... i hope you can respect the clairsentience article........ ive been clairsentient for most of my adult life and it wasnt easy to come this far and to struggle for decades to articulate my experience in a way which makes rational sense to the world at large of which the clairsentience article is a manifest example..... so please try and respect the vast amount of struggle and work which has gone into it....

your user page[edit]

Hello Meco, the articles on your userpage appear quite interesting, could you tell me more about them? Matt V. 08:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot I had put that there. It's not really supposed to be there. Anyway, Carl Johan Calleman is a Swedish scientist who has published some books on the Mayan calendar with particularly addressing the noted phenomenon of "the end of time" variously stipulated to be 21-12-2012 but recently, by Calleman, has been set forward to 28-11-2011 based on mathematical evaluations to which I'm not privy. I've only read one of his books in Swedish (which is free on his homepage).
I still haven't gotten around to reading those two articles, they're from a mailing list to which I subscribe. Calleman is involved in a global movement (of "new age" inclination) aimed at preparing individuals and humanity as such for the cosmic upheavals that are expected (and which many feel have already set in) to increase towards this transition or moving into a new dimension (ref. the biblical apocalypse and general eschatologies of various religious doctrines). From my personal self-realizing journey of the past 5 years or so, I have found Calleman's views to be somewhat in synchrony with my own understanding of the goings-on, although I have not spent enough effort absorbing his theories to be willing to vouch for their veracity. __meco 15:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Interesting. Moving into a new dimension... For some reason that makes me think of predictions made by Robert Anton Wilson and Dr. Timothy Leary (among others) that many people will soon have already gained so called '5th circuit' or 'neurosomatic' consciousness, and that this will constitute and/or cause a great revolution in humanity. I shall have to look into it. Thanks.--Matt V. 07:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandal categories[edit]

Thanks for bringing them to attention at WP:CFD, but they didn't need a full CFD debate. For categories (or any new article for that matter) that is obviously pure vandalism, you can add tags for speedy deletion. In this specific case, the {{vandalism}} tag is probably the one to use. That places the article or category into a special category that admins patrol, and its likely to get deleted faster. Cheers! --Syrthiss 15:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and Economics[edit]

Hi Meco, I'm curious why you would add Post Collegiate Confusion Disorder and High Hassle Factor Employee back onto the list of requested articles. The author placed these titles on the list, and then prompty created the articles himself. My understanding was that once articles are created, they no longer should be on this list. Is this incorrect? Besides, the articles are neologisms that will likely be found to fall within the deletion policy in the near future.

Also, I'm perplexed why you would characterize my edit as "spurious" in your edit summary. You should assume good faith as my intention was nothing more than to purge the list of two seemingly unnecessary entries. Also, please refrain from using edit summaries to express opinions. Please see Help:Edit summary#Wikipedia-specific information. Thanks, Accurizer 10:43, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Your perplexicity is well received and acknowledged. My action was ill-judged, and I will make an effort not to repeat any similar mistake. I appreciate your setting me right. __meco 10:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Meco, thanks for your response. When you get a chance, if you would remove the items again that would be great. I think it helps Wikipedia to remove them. However, I don't want to revert your revert myself, and create the possible appearance of an edit war. Thanks, Accurizer 11:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Status quo reestablished and I'm hopefully a bit wiser. __meco 11:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


I removed the footnote - and have just done so again - because it is inappropriate. There is no point adding a note that seems simply to contradict the text. All the sources I have consulted state that the term does exist in Swedish as a dialect term. It is difficult to understand what purpose this footnote is supposed to serve, since it merely confuses the reader by stating the opposite of what the text says without any qualification. Paul B 11:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I am a native Norwegian. I can testify to the veracity of the footnote. The term is not listed in Norwegian dictionaries. And from the references I have looked up here at the university library in Oslo the only Swedish dictionary that has it listed is the 30+ volumes Svenska Akademiens ordbok. Therefore, it should be safe to conclude that it is a term which native Norwegian and Swedish speakers are not going to recognize, hence the rationale for the footnote should be established. __meco 12:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Good job in Darfur conflict[edit]

Thanks for completing the refs. It is important job but I know how tedious and thankless it can be. I referenced a few sections and meant to complete the whole article, but got lazy sleepy very busy with something else. Here Wiki-thanks.png. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


Appreciate your introducing me to the ideology of Inclusionism in the deletion discussion for lists of farms in Oppland. I am Inclusionist & didn't even know it. Thanks - Williamborg 21:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I feel that people should raise their eyebrows to try and envision what this project (Wikipedia) can become, not simply gaze backwards to see "what an encyclopedia is". __meco 05:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the fix [2]. I still haven't gotten the hang of those footnote refs. I guess that's the great thing about a wiki. Other people can clean up my shortcomings. Thanks again. --Mark Neelstin (Dark Mark) 20:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Surely you're joking, right? This person just added several lines of garbage to an article and you want it kept due to an overly literal interpretation of "assume good faith"? Please! I'm reverting again - if you disagree, I suggest that we take this issue to an admin/moderator. Peter G Werner 13:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Love table[edit]

I totally agree with you, but I felt bad about having to move items around the existing page to make it all fit. I have to go now, but if you can think of a way of doing so please add it to the main page. Many thanks. Pydos 14:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Irrelevant comments removed[edit]

I have reverted your last two edits to Image talk:Autofellatio 2.jpg. Could you explain what was the rationale for placing them there in the first place? __meco 16:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello! I deleted KYLE MUENZNER and Sarah plotkin, both attack pages posted by a vandal, Szego and Tstst respectively. I noticed that their Talk links redirected towards this image but I thought that I had moved away from this page in order to leave the vandalism warnings. I will now attempt to warn the vandals again. Thank you for pointing this out to me.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  16:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Twins image and copyvio[edit]

I responded re: the twins image copyvio question, fyi.--BradPatrick 02:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Bad behavior[edit]

perhaps the word "vandalism" was an overstatement. HOWEVER the edit was a bad one for two reasons:

  1. a song from 1977 did NOT fit into the thesis of the shift of disco songs from the late 70s disco sound to the 80s. the song in question, "i feel love" was purely part of the euro disco sound. euro disco was pure 70s.
  2. the IP user deliberately removed two songs that clearly were a part of that time and inserted the aforementioned song from 2 years prior.

noble of you to put your two cents in a HALF-HOUR after the fact. but the edit prior to the IP user's was more factual. ok? Drmagic 00:56, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm all for discourse. __meco 00:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
it's just disco. not that serious for a long debate. :) i appreciate how you handled this. take care. Drmagic 01:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair use of images[edit]

Hi Meco. I noticed your comments on the Desparate Housewives page. If you are interested I'd like someone to have a look at the Big Brother (Australia series 6) article where there is a large number of fair use images that I think may be beyond reasonable. I'd like your opinion. Thanks. -- 13:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm in the middle of examining a number of such images and articles, and I shall look into this when I have the time, hopefully today. Having taken a peek at the page you mention and there does seem to ve a number of violations of fair use practice there. __meco 13:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Meco. I noticed you removed the images from The Sopranos timeline as they had no fair use rationale. I respect your dilligence in helping wikipedia avoid copyright violations. I've added a fair use rationale for one of the images and reinstated it, I'm a relatively new editor but have been following the fair use dispute for TV programs on the Lost page so wondered if the rationale was appropriate (I modelled it after guidance in Wikipedia:Image_description_page). --Opark 77 17:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I doubt a fair use rationale could be supplied for a page such as this. However, I will take the issue up with fellow fair use-interested editors at Wikipedia talk:Fair use. You might want to check out some of the discussion on that page also if you are interested. I'll look into the discussion that you mention though. I appreciate your input. __meco 17:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC) (minor correction made on 08:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC))

Orphaned image[edit]

Hi Meco, thanks for informing me about the status of this image. It was originally used on Valiant (film), but has been replaced by a different promotional poster. For some reason many editors don't list images they have orphaned at IfD, or at least inform the original uploader. I have deleted the image myself as I very much doubt we have any further use for it. Yours, Rje 17:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


Why did you take out those image. Those images were fair use. Let me know. Thank You.--Stco23 18:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I believe they simply served the purpose of illustrating the article. One image remains that is fair use. Should you find it prudent that more should be included there should be a detailed reationale provided for each individual image. Please see Wikipedia:Fair use about the limitations for the use of fair use images. __meco 18:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you put a DVD article about it because i won't be editing for a while because of an injury to my wrist. I want to keep that picture i uploaded. Thank You.--Stco23 23:32, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are asking me to do. I do understand that you would like to have those images onsite, however. If you later have the need for images that have been deleted, you could upload them anew, simply. __meco 00:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I can't edit with one hand. I need both hands to edit much easer. Please go to my talk page and see what i mean. I wan't you help out on a DVD article because i won't be able to. I hope you can make a good article with other people. Thank You.--Stco23 00:38, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Although I can appreciate your current predicament, I have no inclination to edit an article about Crash, if that is what you are asking of me. __meco 00:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I just don't want you to get rid of my photo. I worked hard on getting that on the Crash article and i want someway to keep it on Wikipedia please. I don't want to get rid of my Chash photo link on my page. Please find someway to get it on that article so i can stop editing for a while and rest. Please help me. Thank You.--Stco23 00:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

When there is no applicable rationale for keeping a copyrighted image it will be removed. It's that straightforward. I don't see there being a viable case for storing unused copyrighted images on Wikipedia until you get well enough to edit again. __meco 00:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

So do i have to do a DVD article about Crash all by myself.--Stco23 01:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Please do not delete my upload or that other upload because when i come back to edit i want to edit a DVD article about Crash. Thank You.--Stco23 01:17, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


The bot is starting to annoy me. It so far given me three warnings and the issue requires some debate. Please do not rush it. --Cat out 08:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not a bot – it's just my machine-like efficiency… Humor aside, there are way too many copyrighted images on that page, especially the copious application of movie posters. The deletion notice will stay in place at least 7 days before any action is effected. This ought to be ample time to discuss which images to retain AND provide a sustainable fair use rationale for them. __meco 08:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

images Million Dollar Baby[edit]

If you want to remove the images. Be my guest. I have personally gone through great lenghts to figure out the copyright information needed so that Wikipedia could keep nice images. I am unfamiliar with the current image copyright requirements and I placed them last year. If you want to remove them instead of just asking me the needed info to be able to keep them, then that is your prerogative. All the best.--None-of-the-Above 11:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I proved a link to Wikipedia:Fair use in the edit comment. My opinion is that these images don't qualify for fair use when they're simply used for illustrative purposes. This, I believe, is in line with consensus opinion among editors who work with fair use issues. This can also be discussed at Wikipedia talk:Fair use. __meco 11:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid to think of what else you would use images for than to illustrate. Seems like you like to remove a lot of images that basis. I prefer construction to destruction, but whatever floats your boat. Delete away.--None-of-the-Above 12:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Other than as simply ornamentary illustrations images can be used in connection with discussion and critical commentary. You would probably do just as well reading the guidelines that reflect current Wikipedia policy on the use of copyrighted material which I have have cited to you on a couple of occasions than projecting malevolent intentions on my part. __meco 12:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Images at Aragorn[edit]

Hi there. I see you removed the images at Aragorn in this edit, with the edit summary: "Removing images with no applicable Fair Use rationale". I was wondering if you could explain this to me, as this sort of use of film screenshots is similar to use I have seen elsewhere, such as at Darth Vader. There are a lot of such images being used in the Tolkien articles. I personally want to see them moved down to a "portrayals" section, as seen at Frodo Baggins. I'd be willing to help clean things up if you could explain what images could be used where, but I'm not so sure there is a need to remove such images. See Fair Use images section. Carcharoth 15:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

As you have brought this issue to Wikipedia talk:Fair use I will participate in the discussion there. I was in fact going to copy your message to that page. __meco 18:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


i was under the impression you did not want the passage in there for the reasons you gave on the discussion page. was i incorrect? i'll be more than happy to reinsert the paragraph if so. Drmagic 20:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I fully support your action. My copying was simply to ensure that the text isn't "lost" and also per recommendations in WP:V. __meco 20:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Re archiving of Wikipedia talk:Fair use[edit]

OK, I've restored the section. I should have left the section in in the first place but didn't because, well, {{user screw}}. --Daduzi talk 09:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


do we have to have a consensus on everything? *LOL* Drmagic 21:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I became aware of your edit after I had submitted the talk page entry. However, as some seem very intent on placing that particular link, I feel it would be only fair to "open up" the process. __meco 22:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Oversettelse av J.Brøgger artikkel[edit]

(sorry everybody, I'll take it in norwegian) I diskusjonen om Oeikrems bidrag til JBs artikkel på norsk, siterer du feil avsnitt. OEs påstand er at JB ikke var så godt ansett i fagmiljøet og er soleklart POV og uten belegg, så jeg støtter JB Jrs sletting fullt og helt. For så vidt greit at du påpeker at det pågår en disputt, men om du ser den seriøsiteten JB jr har vist i forhold til denne saken (som faktisk angår sverting av hans fars renomme) tror jeg at det er ganske åpenbart hvem som er ute etter en NPOV artikkel her. Se også diskusjonen om no:Liberalt_forskningsinstitutt, historikken til no:Sosialantropologisk_institutt,_NTNU... Det er vel egentlig en annen sak, men setningen du oversetter er altså feil. Pertn 14:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Fair Use images are disallowed in user namespace[edit]

Am I within the bounds of the legal red tape now? Dismas|(talk) 03:11, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

That's how I would do it. However, that would only have to be done for copyrighted images. __meco 03:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair use of movie posters[edit]

Fair Use Pics on User Pages[edit]

uhm, i'm not aware of this 'policy' can you directe me to where it states that this is a violation? thanks LG-犬夜叉 08:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

nvm...i didn't even look at the link you gave me... sorry LG-犬夜叉 08:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
actually, plz show me where it says that it is a violation? i didn't find it in the page you linked LG-犬夜叉 08:11, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Policy, point #9. __meco 08:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
ahh, sorry, i didn't log on for about 3 weeks, and didn't remember to check here for your reply. Anyways, another user has removed them for me, and as of now there's not a single picture on my userpage. LG-犬夜叉 19:50, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

IP vandal and "edit war"[edit]

i replied to you on the Talk:Disco: page but i thought i'd repost this on your page just in case. but edit wars don't include vandalism and the reverting of the introduction of false content, which is what this user has done not only to this article but to other articles such as The Beatles and The Bee Gees. several times in the past this user has falsely put in articles that Yoko Ono was a member of the Beatles and that Andy Gibb was a member of the Bee Gees, both of which are FALSE. also concerning the Disco article, he has repeatedly added songs that clearly are not influencers of Disco (such as "I'm a Believer" by The Monkees.)

thus as a member of the recent changes patrol i am entitled to make whatever corrections i see fit. if we all abided by the 3RR there'd be all kinds of vandalism and false content permeating the pages of Wikipedia. so in the future when you see me reverting's changes, you'll know it's legit. Drmagic 13:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I understand. However, it was not all that obvious that this was vandalism. If your description of this person's m.o. is accurate it's very sneaky. Which means that I'm not the only one who might get the impression that it's an edit war going on. My suggestion would be to include some explanation in the edit summary, or, perhaps preferably, on the the talk page. __meco 22:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

inactive wikiprojects?[edit]

Wikiprojects probably shouldn't be marked as inactive unless their main page hasn't been updated for a decent period of time. Marking them inactive just because they aren't on some list somewhere (especially when there's a dynamic list available) may not be the best idea. --Interiot 11:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Marking a project as probably inactive is not making it inactive. When the list of all subprojects isn't updated with regards to the activity of any given subproject the error should be corrected. I take it others will follow-up on the initiative I have taken. __meco 16:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Kansas City Film Critics Circle Awards posters[edit]

You are removing the film poster s images from the Kansas City Film Critics Circle Awards article. Fair use rational is straightforward. The articles (all of them that weren't cut) show the poster for each year's best picture winner. The policy of using a fair use image "to illustrate the movie in question or to provide critical analysis of the poster content or artwork" clearly applies here. Please stop what you are doing. -- Jason Palpatine 22:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

You seem to have misread the guidelines. There is no optional or about providing critical commentary / analysis. And there is in fact no such treatment of the images in the articles from whence they were removed. __meco 12:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


You are removing the film poster s images from the Kansas City Film Critics Circle Awards articles and the Academy awards. Why? Jason Palpatine 22:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Because their use in those articles fail to meet Wikipedia's criteria for fair use of copyrighted images. __meco 22:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Sake news page - Alcohol and Drugs History Society[edit]

I removed this link from the sake article. I saw that you posted it on all kinds of alcohol and drugs articles. I don´t see any value for the article. Correct me if I´m wrong. Best regards Sake-simon 23:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I, as well see you've put it on a bunch of pages. Wikipedia is not a medium for advertising publicising. Many of the articles have no need for this link. I will remove them as I see fit. Wikipedia shouldn't be an outlet for spreading a word about the site.--Neur0X .talk 03:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I have no personal interest in the site in question. My impression is simply that the Alcohol and Drugs History Society offers an earnest forum for exchanging information on a variety of subjects relating to drugs and alcohol. If you who take an active interest in the articles in queston deem the link not useful, then you should lightly remove it. __meco 08:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Cite your edits Template[edit]

Hi, I noticed that on this page Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, you've applied the Cite Your Edits template I designed. If you don't mind my asking, where and how did you find it? Thanks. ThuranX 13:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't remember. It could have been browsing Wikipedia:Categories, howver I am not sure. __meco 08:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Your request[edit]

Hi. Unfortunately, you happened to catch the poor guy (me) who was just doing a job since the info had been deleted so many times already. You can request the article be undeleted if you wish. There's a link on the page that will tell you how. Good luck. - Lucky 6.9 00:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The above in response to User talk:Lucky 6.9#Request for undeletion and due process
This is simply not correct as the deletion log attests. __meco 01:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Speedy out of process. __meco 01:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

You are out of line, sir. I tried to help you and you're throwing me under the bus. I would suggest we reach a more amicable solution before we have a problem. - Lucky 6.9 01:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I believe that is what I did. However, I will post to WP:ANI request any revieq be postponed until we have finished our discussion. __meco 01:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry if I bit hard. I was blown away that I'd be on the noticeboard over offering assistance. I'll recreate the article and we'll let the community decide. Thanks for being reasonable. - Lucky 6.9 01:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

That is what I would suggest, the article and its talk page which included my reason why it shouldn't be speedied. __meco 01:36, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Corrective action acknowledged and appreciated. __meco 01:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Jack Sarfatti[edit]

Thanks for answering my question. It seems to me that whatever Jack Sarfatti may have done in anger over his perception that he was being misrepresented, that the public statements by Calton Bolick are reprehensible and damage Wiki's reputation if he is an "admin"? Two wrongs don't make a right. Also the little investigation I have done e.g. the FBI Patriot Act issue seems to be simply Sarfatti's shtick of melodrama not to be taken as other than a joke since it is obviously so ridiculous. To ban him for his histrionics really shows a lack of humor on Jimbo Wales's part. :-) Britjones

NAACP Image Awards[edit]

On 4-July, you removed images from 37th NAACP Image Awards and 36th NAACP Image Awards because they didn't have applicable fair use rationale. I accept that this is a good reason for removing the images.

However, I don't understand why you didn't also clean up the text around them so that the page would look nice. It also isn't clear to me why you didn't follow through and remove the image from 35th NAACP Image Awards.

From looking over your talk page, it seems that you are very knowledgeable about fair use and spend a good deal of time working to enforce the policies. I appreciate the time you spend on this. ~ BigrTex 21:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


Hello Meco, I would like to talk a little about that article. Can we just leave the introducory blurb out? If you read Category_talk:Scientology#Verbatim_from_scientology_article you see the issue of an introductory paragraph on the top of Category:Scientology has been talked about quite a lot. As Wikipedia editors we have ways of presenting information to the public. Yet there are articles, such as Category:Scientology, where it is not desireable to present references. As User:Justanother implies, these very same situations are present in other religions, too. As User:Justanother states, I just checked a number of categories (Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Government, Science) and none of them have an intro blurb. Those editors in those articles resolved the obvious difficulty (which POV to use) by keeping opposing POVs within articles, rather than being introduced at their Category page. Could we do the same, please? Terryeo 16:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe I have previously advocated your exact position. My last edit was simply based on me adjusting to the present status. __meco 17:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Sharon Weinberger on Wiki[edit]

"Jimmy vs. Jack Sunday, August 27th, 2006 I woke up Saturday to find that I had e-mail from none other than Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia. Wow, I thought, Jimmy must be writing me to address the Wiki War over my puny little Wikipedia entry.

No such luck.

Instead, I found that Jimmy was responding to Jack, as in Jack Sarfatti, co-founder of the Physics Consciousness Research Group. Actually, the response was to the entire Sarfatti list–the dozens if not hundreds of people who get e-mails every day from Jack and his colleagues about subjects ranging from wormholes to UFOs. The list is great reading, although Jimmy (or Jimbo as he’s called) does not agree:

“Including me personally on the cc list of random emails about the sorts of things you all talk about (UFOs, the future of Iran, etc.) is just totally not a good thing. –Jimbo”

Jack Sarfatti has been waging a long and hard battle over his Wikipedia entry, which has led to a rather personal war with Jimmy Wales. The batttle has had many incarnations, but right now it’s over a link on Jack’s entry to “pseudophysics.”

Wikipedia is a great resource, but I have been even more fascinated by a model of dealing with knowledge that could dispense with the elitism inherent in peer review. Wikipedia’s open editing model sounds so wonderfully subversive. But now that Wikipedia has a dominant web presence, it’s finding that allowing the masses to have free reign over knowledge has its downsides.

I have argued in many recent interviews about my book, Imaginary Weapons, that peer review, though an imperfect system, may be the best system we have for dealing with science–at least as it pertains to science funded by government. I’ve often doubted my own conviction about this argument, and had secretly hoped that Wikipedia offered some alternative–if not for funding science–then at least for propagating science that might be unfairly quashed by peer review.

This appears, so far, not to be the case.

For example, when I went to the Wikipedia entry for the isomer bomb, I found that it’s been merged with what was already an oddball entry for Ballotechnics, and that the latest changes were dominated by the same people who waged war on my entry, i.e. those who support the imaginary isomer bomb. The isomer bomb entry is now a collection of selective facts, bits of nonsense, and a definite bias toward Carl Collins‘ claimed results with triggering the hafnium isomer– results which have been rejected by the scientific community (that fact has been mostly wiki-edited out by you-know-who).

In fact, someone currently reading my book has pointed out how Wikipedia makes the idea of an isomer bomb now sound almost legitimate.

So, returning to Jack Sarfatti’s entry. Some people see Jack Sarfatti’s work as belonging to the pseudophysics category; Jack and his allies don’t. Jack himself has been banned from editing his own entry. Under the current Wikipedia system, to determine whether pseudophysics belongs on Sarfatti’s entry comes down to an edit war (and/or intervention by an administrator). Short of daily Wiki Wars, how are we to resolve this? Answer: Under a true open model, we can’t.

Jack has unconventional ideas about physics, but I’ve also seen him denounce plenty of pathological science (like the hafnium bomb). Maybe there needs to be some new category.

In the final analysis, my issue with the entry isn’t even whether Sarfatti belongs to pseudophysics, but who gets to determine that classification. Wikipedians, Jack Sarfatti, Jimmy Wales, or perhaps peer review?

I don’t have the answer, and neither does Wikipedia, so I think Jack has a legitimate gripe."

Posted in Imaginary Weapons, Weird Science | 1 Comment »

The main offender is a person whose only claim to fame is resembling Chairman Mao both physically and ideologically as a shining example of Jaron Lanier's "Digital Maoist."

On Dec 10, 2006, at 10:44 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote: bcc

Hi Sharon On an important distinction that almost no professional debunkers of visionary out-of-the-box dissident physicists with credentials make especially in my case.

The real crackpot protests battle-tested ideas in physics like Einstein's theories of relativity and quantum theory inside their purported domains of validity.

I don't and never did that and I challenge any of my detractors to give a legitimate example where I did.

The visionary goes beyond the edge of respectability where the timid academic is afraid to go lest he lose his funding and his job.

Questions like

  1. consciousness
  2. paranormal, (telepathy, PK, precognition)
  3. UFOs & aliens visiting Earth
  4. Time travel and stability of wormholes. Aliens cannot get here without stable wormholes.
  5. Harnessing dark energy.

Orthodox physics has no clear answers to these topics as yet. On the other hand respectable physicists see no problem in working on string theory and loop quantum gravity with little connection to observation so far at least. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:23, December 11, 2006 (UTC)

Invite to Nursing wikiproject[edit]

Rod talk 19:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


Hello Meco I helped to edit on the article Where Troy Once Stood and I struck upon the reference to Iman Wilkens in the Norwegian Wikipedia. There is unfortunately no article about him or his book available in Norse. Do you know anyone who could rearrange the article I mentioned and work on it to create the article in the Norwegian Wikipedia :Iman Wilkens? Best Wishes, --Antiphus 21:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

It is an interesting article and I find the theory somewhat analogous to Thor Heyerdahl's Jakten på Odin. I have noted the article and your enquiry, however, I cannot yet tell how I will procede with this. __meco 04:41, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick reaction. My Norse is pretty poor so if you could find the time you might find a way to place this under demanded translations if anything of that kind exists on No:WP? Anyway, best wishes, --Antiphus 06:48, 16 January 2007 (UTC) P.S. According to this theory "Hardanger Fjord" equals Homeric "Iardanos" and "Silde Fjord" is the location of "Celadon".
There is an article now about Iman Wilkens so you could add content from the above mentioned article if you like. On the other hand; I'm already content with it as it is now, so suit yourself, best wishes,--Antiphus 13:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I will read it, and pursue the matter if I find the right time. __meco 21:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

thesource42 reposts his re written article[edit]

it has better formatting and is now published elsewhere in online magaZINES , mandrake speaks oxford publisher and also on the integral wiki where it has stayed in its present form for several weeks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thesource42 (talkcontribs) 15:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

Age category[edit]

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Ståle Schumacher Ytteborg[edit]

Hi there! An explanation to this edit that you partially reverted:

  • His family: This removed sentence (from 2004) states that he is married with two children, his homepage says that he is separated. I'm not sure what is correct, which is why I deleted it. Anyway, this information (including the name of the wife) is not relevant information.
  • The home page: I also removed this link because it does not contain information about the work and achievements that he is noted for, only links to his company and other Wiki-articles, including to his own entry.

Hope that explains why I did the edit - Cheers, ArchStanton 22:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


Endabuse is listed as a synonym for ibogaine on PubChem. I have not seen it refered to by this name elsewhere but it suggests that there might be moves towards commercial development of ibogaine? Meodipt 13:49, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians born in 1964[edit]

Thankyou for your message, I deleted myself from that category as per your suggestion. I should never have admitted to being that old in the first place. LOL. By the way, could you delete this other redundant category that I have created? Category:Wikipedians_by_alma_mater:_SUNY_Cortland Steven--Sws2910 21:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Body psychotherapy[edit]

Hi meco. I read your note on that page and on the Psychotherapy page. I have begun to wikify the former. Please visit the changes, add and edit as you see fit. There's plenty to do. The article could easily exceed Psychotherapy in quality and reach if we follow NPOV, pull in fields as diverse as consciousness and psychoneuroimmunology and add relevant citations. Example of where I am heading is at Multiplicity of consciousness and the emergence of self.-- Ziji  (talk)  01:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Not to overlook Mind-Body Intervention (I see you already have started here). I will continue following up on this work. __meco 07:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

rape by sex[edit]

What is the definition of a homosexual, if not someonw who desires to have intercourse with someone of the same sex? If this is the definition, then a man who rapes another man is a homosexual or a bisexual (and the same for women). It may be that that the rapist is sexually attracted to women too, in which case he is also a heterosexual. However, I note that the article does not rush to dissociate rape and heterosexuality. BillMasen 17:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I am somewhat befuddled by the appearance of the above entry on my discussion page. I don't believe this is a reaction to something I have written in connection with that article, or am I wrong? __meco 17:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
This is a (belated) response to your edits to the article( which imply that male-male rape "does not make the rapist a homosexual". BillMasen 18:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
I see. I believe this discussion should be taking place at the article's talk page, so I'll move it there. __meco 23:44, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


Please review the multiple references I have added to both articles and notice the now empty category:psychodynamic psychotherapy due to the work I have just done at category:psychodynamics. Also, next time start a discussion when using merge tags. If you have further issue please discuss first at talk:psychodynamics. Thank-you. --Sadi Carnot 07:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

As I have several issues with your recent edits centering on the topic of Psychodynamics, I intend to voice these where you suggest, as well as in other related discussion fora. __meco 08:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge body psychotherapy[edit]

Mico I have changed the merge by adding to and from so that the discussion will all take place on the somatics page, seems a quick revert but it struck me as easier to start here than have a discussion running parallel on two pages-- Ziji  (talk)  23:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norwegian Heathen Society[edit]

Being a former leader of this organization

Hey, that's really cool. It'd be great if you could advise about, and translate if need be, via Talk:Norwegian Heathen Society, anything else that might be interesting about its work (for instance, descriptions of the Little Brown Books of wacko religious quotations). It's a big problem on Wikipedia that a lot of notable topics get sidelined because they're not English language sourced. Tearlach 01:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I might, however, I have notified the present generation of "Heathens" via their discussion forum at, so hopefully someone will take on this task. The Norwegian language article has a lot more info than could be translated also. __meco 09:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving a message on my userpage[edit]

Thank you for leaving a message on my userpage, about deletion of the categories I created in relation to Sigmund Freud. Looking at discussion of categories, it seems that the bulk of people favour deletion. Oh, well, I may be outnumbered, but if these categories get deleted, I shall accept that - and one side of me does think that it is better to lose that category entitled "Influences on Sigmund Freud" than to have such a category and have some one add Nietzsche or Schopenhauer to the list (see my comments on the userpage of this category).

By the way, I am aware that you are a native Norwegian speaker, so let me know if you have difficulty with the English in this article. I only know very few words in Norwegian - such as "Kat" (= cat) and how, reversed, it becomes "Tak" meaning "Thank you". My knowledge of Norwegian is normally confined to terms such as "En Folkenfende" (An Enemy of the People) in other words, Norwegian in connection with Henrik Ibsen. German and French are the main languages I know other than my native English, and also a little Cantonese Chinese (siu siu = just a little). What do you think of the Wikipedia articles on your compatriots, Edvard Grieg and Henrik Ibsen? Thank you again for your message. ACEOREVIVED 20:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


If you want, you can note this fact on the talk page, including a link to the debate. With categories, it's easy to spot from the edit history and/or whatlinkshere. >Radiant< 12:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

German Einstein translation needed[edit]

To use in the Hermann von Helmholtz article, could you translate this for me:

”Ich bewundere den originellen, freien Kopf Helmh[oltz].”

-Albert Einstein, August 1899

Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 04:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I admire the original, free head Helmh[oltz]. __meco 11:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, moved to here. About the indenting, I don't know what you mean? Do you have an example, of where I indent wrong? --Sadi Carnot 15:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


Hey Meco - thanks for tidying up my new article :) TonyTony

Edit of Mimesis[edit]

Hi Meco, you kindly edited the article mimesis and I am grateful for it. However, you also altered the poet being 'thrice' removed to 'twice' removed, which seemed to be right in the light of what was written. However, when you read the translation of the original definitely reads 'thrice'. I think the indication is that God's idea is received, 'as no artificer makes the ideas themselves', therefore some kind of imitation? See The best way is to look for the word "thrice" under your Find function. I have now rewritten the part in question. Perhaps you can let me know what you think. Many thanks. Dieter Simon 01:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Having read your amendment of the paragraph in question I can quite follow you reasoning, it now stands quite clearly :-) __meco 08:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks, Meco, for your response. Dieter Simon 23:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


Future reference, feel free to just ask admins to give you a copy of something which has been deleted if it was deleted for something like no-context or A7. As long as it isn't an attack page or a privacy violation or something similar, admins will generally be happy to let you know what the contents are. JoshuaZ 16:19, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I realize that this would have been a more appropriate way to go about it. __meco 16:21, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


The IP is a sockpuppet of banned user JB196 and I was reverting in accordance with WP:BANNED. –– Lid(Talk) 06:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Lid beat me to it, but I re-reverted you on User Talk:Alkivar.. the reason for the reversion is that a banned user User:JB196 is using open proxies to continue to disrupt WP (well, he thinks he's cleaning up, but after the first couple hundred IP/accounts I've blocked, I have my own viewpoint on it :)) No big deal, you didn't know about JB. Have a good one! SirFozzie 06:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Right, now I know! __meco 06:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Chibuku (nightclub)[edit]

I've put it at User:Meco/Chibuku since you already had a large sandbox. You're welcome. :) ZsinjTalk 01:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

That's good. I'll see if I can make it into something. __meco 01:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

GA Review

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Dear Meco/Archive01, I am here to inform you that I have placed No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith on Hold status for a period of 2-7 days. This means that you have 2-7 days to address the issues detailed on the articles talk page. If I feel that, after this designated time, the issues raised have not been dealt with, then the article will fail. If you can address the problems in the period of time, the article will pass. If you have any questions about the review, please leave them on my talk page. Good luck on improving the article. Regards,Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Unable to revert vandalism[edit]

I had noticed that the page Jew had been vandalised. However I am unable to revert, as the page is semi-protected. How long do I have to be a Wikipedian to be able to edit such pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkeranat (talkcontribs) 09:17, July 6, 2007

When a page is semi-protected you see a padlock symbol in the upper right corner of the article. Clicking on it will take you to Wikipedia:Protection policy and there it says that newly created accounts have to wait four days before they can be used to edit these articles. Since your account is 7 days old it should be possible for you to revert any vandalism now. __meco 13:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Year of birth unknown[edit]

Hello, with regards to your recent amendment to {{lifetime}}, I think it is important to note that Category:Year of birth unknown is not a maintenance category. It a biographical category that states that the subject's year of birth is missing from history, or cannot be known. I believe you were thinking of Category:Year of birth missing. My knowledge of computing in general, and templates in particular, is not sufficient for me to be able to tell how that changes your edit, but the two are not the same and [..unknown] is not a maintenance category. Thanks! Jdcooper 21:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Articles tagged for speedy delition[edit]

Dear Meco
You created the talk pages for articles that do not exsist. I have therefor tagged them for speedy deletion.
Talk:Mormonism Research Ministry, Talk:Marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Talk:Utah Lighthouse Ministry
Mads Angelbo Talk / Contribs 10:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


You are adding the {{WPCities}} template to a lot of articles for which it is not relevant. Is this caused by a runaway bot or something? --Gsv 19:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding cities in Norway to WP:CITIES. I never realized that there were so many in the country. However, as a future note, the wikiproject is for cities, towns, and municipalities only. Parts of cities, such as boroughs or neighborhoods, are also acceptable. I've noticed that you've also added several other geographical entities, such as counties and districts, which I am removing from the wikiproject because they do not fall under the category. Up for debate is whether your 'former municipalities' should fall under WP:CITIES or not, but I'm leaving them in for now, although with an importance assessment of 'low'.
Also, as a general rule, we don't include the category pages for a city, only the city article itself. For example, New York City is included in the wikiproject, but [[Category:New York City]] is not. Same goes for other major cities, like London or Los Angeles, California. Dr. Cash 20:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I wonder if maybe you missed the message I left for you on your talk page some 12 hours ago. All the articles that were inappropriately tagged per query on the project talk page have been removed. I have however reverted a couple of your banner removals and given reason for doing that which I hope is acceptable. __meco 20:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
I do believe I am currently tagging according to WikiProject Cities guidelines. And I am tagging manually. __meco 20:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like things are working much better now, I think. Regarding stub tags, since I don't speak norwegian, and I'm not from Norway (but I still know what a 'stub' is), I'm just using the 'norway-stub' tag. If you want to redo those with local ones, be my guest.
As far as the WikiProjectBannerShell vs. WikiProjectBanners template goes, it's pretty much apples and oranges here. I used to prefer the latter, but after looking at the BannerShell, it seems like it's a bit easier to add to pages with less typing, so I've been using that now. But now, I really don't want to go back and change all the others back,... you can do that if you want to. Dr. Cash 07:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Having contributed to this Wikipedia for some 18 months now, I signed up for the AutoWikiBrowser last night. I don't know if you are using a script when doing the kind of work you're presently doing with the Norwegian settlements, however, realizing that the Category:Villages in Norway alone contains more than 1,200 articles, I figured that's an incentive strong enough to make me have a go at script assisted editing of such menial work as this. __meco 08:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed that you added some templates for what appears to be counties or districts to WPCities (e.g. Template talk:Hedmark). While they do contain links to cities located within, these templates are generally not necessary to include in WPCities, following similar precedence set with other metropolitan area templates (see Template:Greater Richmond Region as an example -- Richmond, Virginia is included in the wikiproject, but it's templates are not). Some cities can have 3-5 templates associated with them, and it would unnecessarily clutter the wikiproject if we added every template associated with every city. Cheers! Dr. Cash 20:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Surely, all these erroneously tagged entries have been corrected? I even ackowledged your assistence in this work on your talk page. __meco 07:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
No, regional/county templates are outside of the scope of wikiproject cities, and should not be tagged with the {{WPCities}} banner. It clutters to the wikiproject, and with the member cities themselves in the wikiproject, is unnecessary. Look at Amsterdam as an example; the city itself is tagged in {{WPCities}}, but the template which provides links to other Municipalities in North Holland Province, is not tagged as part of the wikiproject. Pretty much all other city articles follow this same precedence. Dr. Cash 08:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I understand your reasoning, however, I disagree and think such a policy excludes pertinant items. I shall bring up this issue at the WPCities talk page to see if I can garner support for this perspective. __meco 08:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The largest contributor at no.wp?[edit]

Lets see, duffman had 40031 edits[3] and had its last edit 2. okt 2006[4]. You had 9252 edits[5] and the last edit 2. feb 2007[6]. Then there are such users as Jon Harald Søby(56665), Einar Myre(43662) and Kph(36846). 16:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Old Roads[edit]

Good point. Did things last year that I no longer do. I'll change it when I find some spare time. Thanks Williamborg (Bill) 02:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Please be more careful[edit]

Hi, on the Talk:Dred Scott (porn star) page you deleted my comment when you added your edits [7] please be more careful. Benjiboi 20:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it happened inadvertently as I was adding the same heads-up message to about 50 talk pages. I seem to have made a similar error on a couple of other talk pages as well, which means I shall have to be more attentive when I take on similar ventures in the future. I appreciate you notifying me! __meco 08:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

3RR warning[edit]

Please be aware that you have just broken the three revert rule on Human penis size, please do not revert again or you will be blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:31, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

You've nopw reverted 5 times in 2 days, including 3 times within the last 24 hours. Please make no further reverts to the page or you will be blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:11, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The three revert rule does not give a user the right to revert an article 3 times in any 24 hour period. Due to this being persistant reverting over a period of time, if another revert is made, it will result in you being blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:28, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Rolf Hammerschmidt[edit]

It's okay to remove the unconfirmed controversial information. But where did you get the confirmation from that Hammerschmidt's company in 1990 was Hammer Entertainment? You can't have any because the company was only founded in 2005 in Prague. All movies before that date were produced through Hammerschmidt's company Man's Best, which he founded in Germany! THis also explains that Man's Best is no series but a company name! The movies were released in the US exclusively by Proof on File but that makes Man's Best not a series! It is a company, which still is in business in Denmark but not connected to Mr. Hammerschmidt anymore. So at least the facts should be corrected on the page and the text be changed to: .... Since 1990 he produced more than 800 films. He was the founder of then German based company Man's Best. In 2005 he moved to Prague and founded his new company Hammer-Entertainment.

Phantasy (club)[edit]

You asked for elaboration about the possible non-notability of this entry and I believe I've provided that on the talk page of the article -- I'd be interested in your further comments. Accounting4Taste 17:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Six Million[edit]

Please note that, in a recent dispute over some content in the article Did Six Million Really Die?, the person you were supporting is a Nazi ("Aryeitsky Saldat" is Russian for "Aryan Soldier"); he has been blocked indefinitely. All contributions made by that individual to articles pertaining to Nazism (which, by an odd coincidence, is what almost all of his contributions were) must be considered extremely dubious. DS 15:37, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


The page with all deleted revisions is now at User:Meco/Ascensionism. Please note that deletion was due to a lack of notability and verifiability, not because the article was badly written. Tizio 13:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I shall take this into account. __meco 13:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

RFD Nomination[edit]

On 15 August, you tagged Jørn Stubberud with {{rfd}}. However, you did not list this redirect at WP:RFD. Nominating a redirect for deletion is a two step process. If you still wish to see these deleted, please complete the second step of the nomination instructions. If you do not list them in a reasonable time, I will assume you no longer wish to see them deleted and will remove the tags. Let me know if you have any questions or need assistance. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 03:19, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


I was reverting some vandalism on the Teletubbies page using TW twice, but both the times there were some errors. I tried reverting manually, but got a Wikimedia servers busy error. I was hoping that you could revert the page for me. Thanks. Mkeranat 22:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Eugene Ejike Obiora[edit]

I have nominated your article, Eugene Ejike Obiora for DYK. If you think this is an inappropriate choice (for political reasons or whatever) or if you want to improve on the hook, please feel free to modify or remove it. I nominated it because I liked the article and because Norway should get some DYK's now and then. Regards, --Mattisse 20:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The DYK editors want to change the name of the article to something like Death of Eugene Ejike Obiora. They feel the title is misleading as it is. Would that be alright with you? --Mattisse 22:43, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
I think that is a good idea. __meco 07:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Tanks for the translation of the Norwegian language article that I started, and thanks for the notice on my user page. Janbrogger 11:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I notice you got trolled[edit]

After starting with some guy named User:Moon light shadow and then moving on to me it seems that the troll ended with vandalizing your user page before ending or being stopped or whatever. as seen here. What do you think leads these vandals to do these things, to choose us? It's very saddening. Tyciol 05:27, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

The individual might have read this entry from me. __meco 06:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 20 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article death of Eugene Ejike Obiora, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 16:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)


I do not have any particular objection to you listing Psychosynthesis as a part of Project Alternatine Medicine, but I do not see how it applies. Psychosynthesis is a branch of psychology. Kwork 20:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

A lot of schools not embraced by mainstream psychology would naturally fall within the realm of alternative medicine, I should think. Anyway, it's just my coarse judgment for the moment deciding what gets the project banner. Also, it's important to consider that a WikiProject association is different from an article categorization. Change it if you like, or question the issue on the article or project talk page. __meco 20:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I have no objection. It seems surprising, but maybe something good will come out of it. Kwork 22:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


Thank you for adding RBTC to WikiProject Charismatic Christianity. When you assessed the article, you didn't provide your reasoning; it would be most helpful in improving the article if you could do so. Thank you! --profg 13:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)


Please have a look. --Bhadani (talk) 21:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Feldenkrais Method[edit]

You recently reverted an edit in Feldenkrais Method without making any response to the policy and guideline issues indicated in the edit summary of that edit. Please use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors, rather than reverting others edits against consensus. Thanks. --Ronz 21:05, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to reverse the problem statement. Your wholesale reversion was in my opinion the wrong way to raise these issues. I believe that you should have stated your grievances on the talk page instead of reverting a comprehensive and earnest edit with unspecifically general citing of Wikipedia policy. I will comment on this on the article's talk page. __meco 07:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to follow up on this! --Ronz 16:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


I saw you were missing a shortcut and a coopbanner so I created those and also added you to the main page of WP:TIMET. If any of those things you don't agree, please feel free to delete ℒibrarian2 19:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Jon Rappoport[edit]

I don't think Rappoport did his homework. Most people don't. I had a friend who said, "Kazuba, I just don't know who to believe. This person says believe this and that person says believe that? I have finally solved the problem. I will believe everybody." Bad move. Make a genuine effort to collect all the evidence pro and con and evaluate it yourself. There's no hurry to come to a conviction.Kazuba 23:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate and share your position, except about your first opinion on Jon Rappoport. That is, I don't know whether or not he has done "his homework." What is apparent to me, however, is that he has an angle of approach to the subject matter which to my knowledge is quite unique, and I find so far little reason to dismiss any of his major conclusions. Not knowing the backdrop for your inquiry, I'm unsure though if we are communicating at an optimum. __meco 10:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I would also like to direct your attention to Jon Rappoport's article on Wikisource to which I have recently added a number of quotes. In particular, and with respect to the present dialogue, take a look at the quote from Infomonster (CD – 2001, tape4B, 3 min.) __meco 15:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Clarification: It is not whether or not YOU did your homework. The question is did Rappoport do his homework? Only Rappoport knows the answer to that.Kazuba 17:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I gather from your user page that you were referring to the addition I attempted to make to the Dean Radin page. I understood that it was Rappoport's having done his homework or not that you were referring to. This is what I have elaborated on above, however in a general sense, as I was unaware then that you were specifically referring to the Radin article. __meco 19:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Pattern interrupt and Emotional Freedom Techniques[edit]

Hi Meco - I started a page today on this useful topic: Pattern interrupt. I was surprised to see that it was not yet mentioned on Wikipedia.

The only good source I could find is in Norwegian, linked on the new page. The topic seems to be within your area of interest, so I was wondering if you might like to expand the stub a bit, or translate the Norwegian WP article. Thanks! Have a good one... --Parsifal Hello 00:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

That is a Dutch WP article, not a Norwegian one. __meco
Oops! I apologize, that was a silly goof! I thought Norwegian when I saw the nl: prefix, though now that I think about it, there's no "L" in Norway!
I guess I've been typing too much and not sleeping enough... --Parsifal Hello 08:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Wilhelm Reich[edit]

Hellow Meco, thanks for the post, that i just read on my discussion page...And sorry about me let it go, few months ago on the Wilhelm Reich issue. I rarely come here, as a matter of fact and stand usualy on the froggy one. So long. -- Yalla 09:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Methodist as Anglicans?[edit]

Methodism is related to Anglicanism as Christianity is to Judaism. It has roots it the latter, but is not the same thing at all. They should have a seperate wiki project...if not it should fall under the Christianity WikiProject. -- SECisek 15:10, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Non-English edit summary[edit]

Sorry. It was bad judgment. Thanks for letting me know. Perhaps you can you help me deal with User:Nastykermit? The article Johan Galtung has only one section with good references, and this user persists in deleting it, because he objects to the POV. I've tried to encourage him to add material, rather than delete, but I can't seem to communicate with him. A suggestion from another editor might help. --Anthon.Eff 14:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed the dispute. I cannot promise I will engage myself, however I might. For now, just remember the three revert rule. __meco 18:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Don't mind the banner[edit]

I deleted and undeleted your talk page a minute ago to remove a message that attempted an 'outing' of a Wikipedia editor's identity. Jack Sarfatti (who once edited as User:JackSarfatti) or one of his supporters has been harrassing User:Calton using the IP and, more recently, the account Skewyou. Sorry for any inconvenience. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

It was a comment that purported to give Calton's full real-life name. Skewyou had spammed it to a number of locations. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Erdos Numbers deletion review[edit]

Meco, I noticed that you had posted notification of the (third) nomination to delete the Erdos Numbers categories, at the wikiproject mathematics page. I appreciate that very much. I don't gather that you yourself support the category, but you seem to have some historical perspective, so I invite you to loook at my request for review of the deletion, at this log item. Thanks. Pete St.John 19:56, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Revert on Jenkem[edit]

Was your reverting my latest edits to the Jenkem article made in error? Otherwise, could you explain? I am reverting back in the meanwhile. __meco 15:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

  • This was an incorrect revert it seems. The Diff that made me roll back only showed that you changed some text to "Butt Hash", which i, since i am not knowledgeable about this subject, mistook for vandalism. My apologies for the inconvenience :) --Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 15:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


Hi. wouldn't you agree to remove all the timeline developments from that article to a linked and new page called "Jenkem Update" ? The article would stay with the information about the subject as an encyclopedic article while updates and a timeline can be followed in the new spcial page. This will provide better readability to the main article while still providing where to follow up. If you agree I can do that WP:TIMETRACE Daoken 16:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

=) (talk) 10:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

when will you acknowledge your failure? when will submit to the fact that you were blatantly pushing a POV if not simply trolling? (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Christopher Story, was selected for DYK![edit]

Updated DYK query On December 17, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christopher Story, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 07:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, User:Hereward77 should receive this credit. I nominated the article for DYK-ship and made some improvements. __meco (talk) 08:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


Oh! Right! Sorry, loads of things were happening, and I honestly forgot about your request. I truly apologize. I'll look into it. DS (talk) 04:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Advanced Energy Research Organization[edit]

Hi, Meco! I've just taken a look at the article I deleted and the web address: [8]. My deletion edit summary was that the article was a copyvio. The truth is that there's a copyvio issue, but the article also suffered from WP:ADS. If you'd like, I can restore the article to your userspace - that way you can add some reliably sourced references, tone down the advertising feel, and then move it back to mainspace. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Great. Please do! __meco (talk) 07:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Here you go :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Image rationales[edit]

Thank you, I'm glad I could help. If I can help you with any of your other image uploads, please let me know. Bláthnaid 17:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Help please[edit]

Hello! Can you constructively help me with this? I am slightly completely unprepared for it. I got the first question by my self, then the tough question that I don't know the answers to came, so that is why I need help... Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Sir Intellegence - smartr tahn eaver!!!! 20:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Walter Bowart[edit]

Updated DYK query On 24 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Walter Bowart, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 12:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Reverted your user page[edit]

Some anonymous user vandalized your user page yesterday which I reverted to you earlier today. Chris (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

freemasonry general discussion[edit]

thanks for the comment earlier -good idea

I just read through all those comments again and I felt like I should have acknowledged your intelligence a bit more. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 04:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Dörflingen photo[edit]

What a very beautiful place? Is it near Oslo?

Best wishes, Wanderer57 (talk) 16:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I thought if was beautiful, but no, it's not in Norway. __meco (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Incarcerated Celebs[edit]

Hello meco:

I saw your comment on the talk page of the Category:Incarcerated Celebrities.

You might be interested to look at the formal proposal to split the Category.

Best wishes, Wanderer57 (talk) 05:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The matter is open to discuss here:
Categories for discussion process.
Please feel free to add your thoughts to the debate. Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

TFD for PND template[edit]

Hi. How can you can you "strongly resent the rationale"? "Resent" is a very subjective word, which makes is personal to you. So, if you feel personally about this topic, you should distance yourself from it. A sthe output is in German it is not informative for a non German speaker when they click on it as a link. I am well aware of the value of the information the database returns. If only there were some way to keep the template for retrieval purposes, while ensuring that it generates no text. Happy editing TINYMARK 16:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

There is nothing personal in it, and if my choice of word was inappropriate, this would be attributable to me not being a native English-speaker. __meco (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ibiza edits[edit]

I was noting your edit here and was wondering if I could trouble you to cite how the clubs you re-added (I had specifically removed them for the following reason) are in fact famous. Without citation, we have to remove them, to prevent the article from becoming list-y. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I have responded at Talk:Ibiza. __meco (talk) 19:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

My useless contributions[edit]

Like Deforestation in Brazil . Yeah good one ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if you are aware of Blofeld's contributions to Wikipedia, but he is not only an editor whose edit count has crossed the 100,000) but also one of the best editors on here. He is responsible for numerous GAs and FAs, including Abbas Kiarostami and has been named the most prolific and productive editor, even by our FA director, User:Raul654. Many editors praised him for his work (see the huge amount of barnstars he has received).
So, let me tell you that this phrase ("hopefully not too many") was not appropriate and definitely impolite. Look what he has done because of this (see his user page and talk page).
Regards, ShahidTalk2me 22:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
That is all very fine. Do you assert that wikipedians should research the merits of an editor before they make a comment on work they perceive as substandard? I don't. However, I can empathize with these reactions. When I was a newspaper boy in my teens I delivered the paper for five years with no complaints and was even given an award by the mayor for my exemplary work. Then on one occasion, I had a trusted friend substitute for me one day. He in turn handed the task over to his brother who did a most slipshod job, resulting in my first complaint. Of course I was upset. __meco (talk) 22:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I understand you. But, you have to consider that creating stubs also constitute a constructive contribution, and I totally think so. That is the spirit of Wikipedia, and the way to make it as better, as comprehensive as possible. Editors who are familiar with the topic can expand it later. Also, we are not here to comment on editors and criticise their work, but comment on content. Regards, ShahidTalk2me 22:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Meco, dude, Wikipedia's ultimate aim is to spread goodwill across the will providing all sorts of infomation. Quantity, in this case is much more important on giving a basic overview. I suggest you to possibly contribute more to articles yourself than crying over your paper round. Universal Hero (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


What happened to Blofeld of Spectre? Basketball110 what famous people say 03:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

After I wrote this comment on his user talkpage, he apparently left the project. Hopefully he will be back soon. __meco (talk) 07:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi I am back. No hard feelings it wasn't just your message but I do get fed up with negative comments. Incidentally the same guy who has been hassling me today has plastered some of your new articles such as 1995 in Norway with tags, some of them are uneccesary. I think its a very good and useful idea what you are doing and when I have a spare moment I'll see if I can add some random births and deaths to some of the years. Like 1965 in Norway. Would you like the birth date mentioned or is this style OK? Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 23:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the birth date should be mentioned in the death year entry and vice versa. That's what I intend to do. I started with the Herøya article (that's where my paternal family hails from) and incorporated years in Norway from there on, and I think I will continue this work today, as it really caught on with me. __meco (talk) 08:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads up. Appreciate it. I will modify my edits accordingly, I only used the flag icons for birth/death locations after seeing it used that way somewhere on Wikipedia. Now that I know what's proper procedure I I will of course follow it. Manxruler (talk) 16:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Archiving Your Talk Page[edit]

Would you like me to archive your talk page?--TrUCo9311 21:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I have so far been at a loss about whether or not, and even how, to do that. There's so much that could be just purged (bot warnings and so on). I'm hesitant to agree, though I appreciate your generosity. __meco (talk) 21:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
So you dont want to?--TrUCo9311 21:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
No, I don't now. __meco (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, but I recommend you do as over 100 threads is alot for your talk page. But if you change your mind notify me and I will be glad to archive it.--TrUCo9311 21:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


As for purging another user's user page, that is in my opinion, and as far as I know also considered by applicable guidelines, quite inappropriate.

And my opinion -- which is explicitly backed by policy -- is that WP is not a soapbox, that User pages are for assisting editors in their editing (which he explicitly is NOT doing), and therefore he's using it as a free webhost. All which, again, is explicitly backed by policy rather than vague handwaving.

Also, purging my notice on the same user's discussion page I believe is covered by the same characteristic. If you find it unacceptable that, as I enter a message, I concurrently purge a one year old bot warning about an uploaded image that has already been deleted, well, I won't object if you find it necessary to restore that bot warning. Removing a message entered by a user in the same swipe, is at best careless. If done intentionally, it warrants censuring.

If you're too lazy to add your message without wiping out other, legitimate messages, that's not my concern. I won't object if you find it necessary to restore, but it's not my responsibility to fix your carelessness. --Calton | Talk 01:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Response posted at User_talk:Calton#Inappropriate_content_removal. __meco (talk) 11:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Your three points are non-sequiturial.
No, they are completely on point, since they all cite the relevant policies un question and how they apply.
User:Lir is a user with close to 10,000 edits on the project. He got into conflicts with some other Wikipedia users, apparently one being Jimbo Wales, and this resulted in banning. This expired in December 2007. Then in January 2008 Lir makes an edit to his user page (after having edited it anonymously since the ban was lifted), in effect creating the page which you purged.
Speaking of "non-sequiturial": nothing you just wrote -- nothing -- has any bearing on what I wrote. Whatever his history, he has explicitly said he's not going to be editing here, and he's using it purely as a soapbox for his grievances: whatever his grievances -- which I do not know about and do not have the slightest interest in learning about further -- he has actual avenues for airing them, one of which is NOT the use of Wikipedia as a free billboard.
On his user page Lir states his opposition to the government of Wikipedia, which he is explicitly entitled to; and I quote from WP:USER: "Another common use is to let people know about [..] your opinions about Wikipedia". The page does this succinctly and without transgressing the limits of WP:CIVIL or WP:ATTACK.
Another non-sequitorial bit of Wikilawyering: those are his rights WITHIN the limits allowed, not apart from them. To quote from the same page:
Your userpage is for anything that is compatible with the Wikipedia project. It is a mistake to think of it as a homepage as Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, or social networking site. [emphasis mine] Instead, think of it as a way of organizing the work that you are doing on the articles in Wikipedia, and also a way of helping other editors to understand with whom they are working.
Note the word "editor", not "user".
Your premise that Lir's user page may be purged because "User pages are for assisting editors in their editing", something "which he explicitly is NOT doing", is certainly not mandated by the section removal of text on the WP:USER page. If there exists some document that I am unaware of or consensus by praxis, I would need to be shown this if I am going to accede your action as being in accordance with community spirit and/or policy.
Your confusion of Wikipedia with a moot court and lack of awareness of long-standing practice is hereby noted. If you have a problem with this, I invited you to practice your rhetorical technique -- and, dare I say it, soapboxing -- upon a higher authority. --Calton | Talk 11:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

He's a wordy little troll, isn't he? Notice how he just insinuated that you are ALSO a soapboxer! I think he was threatening you. Lirath Q. Pynnor (talk)

Providing a reality check, is all. And add "troll" to that list of words that do not mean what you think they mean.
BTW, looks like it didn't work out as you intended. I guess dropping words like "praxis" isn't as effective as you thought it would be: knowing actual policy and a bit of common sense works out better in the long run. --Calton | Talk 14:58, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I have revised my user page, I hope it meets with your approval. I regret that Calton feels you don't know actual policy and lack common sense, I would suggest that you ask him to refrain from making personal attacks, but I'm sure he would simply tell you that you should add "personal attacks" to that list of words that do not mean what you think they mean. L-o-L. Lirath Q. Pynnor (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


Guy, pay attention: I was expanding on my comments, particularly with respect to the grotesque edit summary used when Boodlesthecat removed it. Perhaps you overlooked all of that. Perhaps you should before carrying water for another user's latest obsessive nastiness. Consensus by praxis is that helping editors who troll is a Bad Thing: please make a note of it. --Calton | Talk 23:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You are right. I didn't look into it. And I am not sure I am going to. You may be right about being justified in making that revert, however, as you seem to be all too happy to supply you opinon-giving with little mean-spirited comments (snide and gloating), I made that comment. I appreciate that the above comment is neutral in its tone. __meco (talk) 07:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


Do you mind succinctly explaining to me why Lir was banned?--Shattered Wikiglass (talk) 03:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


Could you please point me to the discussion on Lir's banning in WP:AN?--Shattered Wikiglass (talk) 03:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

There was no real discussion on that. There were two discussions centering on Lir, that have now been archived: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive131#User:Lir and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive380#Purging_of_user_page. __meco (talk) 07:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Norwegian translations[edit]

That would be good I'll keep it in mind. I always get the impression though that many native speakers on various countries on wikipedia can't be bothered to translate things -judging by translation requests I;ve left on various wiki projects and editors and never getting a response from them in months . I;ve asked a huge amount of editors from various countries Norway, Denmark, Finland, Latvia, Germany, Estonia etc and 99% of people have never added a single word ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes I figured out that a gate was a street lol ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Discussing/ Editing pictures[edit]

Hi Meco, you've once welcomed me to wikipedia so I turn the following question to you. I did not find out yet where pictures are centrally stored, discussed, edited etc. I have some objections to pictures or their captions in wikipedia and many of them appear multiple times. So I am wondering, what is the right way to go about this ind of content? You can answer here or on my talk page, as you like :-)Tomeasy (talk) 20:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

And I have responded on your talk page. __meco (talk) 09:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


If the articles are unreferenced, there is no problem in tagging them as unreferenced. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Tagging year lists[edit]

Okey doke, thanks. I see now that it's just a list of events. Apologies, PeterSymonds | talk 12:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 22 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Odd F. Lindberg, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

more? --Victuallers (talk) 17:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Please explain this edit.[edit]

Hello, thank you for your message here. I'm grateful that you choose to talk first rather than slap me with a {{uw-delete1}}. I happen to notice in passing that the url wasn't hyperlinked because the http:// part was missing. When I added the http:// part, I got a message that the url was blacklisted and I assumed that it was a spam url not permitted on en.wikipedia and removed it with the edit summary, "removed blacklisted url". If I have made a mistake, please go ahead and revert my edit. Thanks. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I have both reverted myself and been able to add the http:// this time. I have also added http:// to all the references too to hyperlink those. All seem to be OK now. Thanks. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


Not a problem, i think this article is really progressing well and its been civil as well (will wonders never cease). (Hypnosadist) 21:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

DADT Category[edit]

Propose renaming Category:DADT to Category:Don't ask, don't tell
Nominator's rationale: Rename. I don't think cryotic four-letter abbrevations should be used for category names, the article and the phemomenon is called Don't ask, don't tell, the category should also have this name.. meco (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
DADT is a well known acronym for "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."--Robapalooza (talk) 15:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
If the category is renamed, will the pages that link to it be automatically updated? Is there some sort of bot that will do this?--Robapalooza (talk) 15:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the DADT being a commonly known abbreviation. Perhaps that only applies to Americans? Yes, the practical changes will be handled automatically if the name change proposal is decided. __meco (talk) 15:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Gerald Lehner (journalist)[edit]

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WikiProject Disambiguation[edit]

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Von Sebottendorf[edit]

Hello Meco,
I read your comments on Sebotten.
I am glad someone has the energy to phrase his criticism.
It is not a subject one turns to with much joy.
Then, let joy come from a handshake in this forsaken dreamland of encyclopediarian toil.
Nice to meet you,
Lunarian (talk) 10:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


Meco - glad to see that you're still active on ProjectRave and I look forward to working with you. I've made a comment on the project talk page and hope to begin working once I've finished going over the scope/plan. Regards - Shamanchill (talk) 20:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Very good! I've had a passive stint with respect to this project for a little while, but the enthusiasm of others may direct my focus more into rave articles in the time ahead. Cheers! __meco (talk) 20:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

talk:Carlos Castaneda[edit]

Hi Halvor. If you take a look at Talk:Carlos_Castaneda I think you will see that I am a consciencious editor who respects other editors, is careful to document the editing process, and does not act rashly. The section that user:Joshua Issac deleted, unlike the Cultural impact section just above it, does not document the article editing process. Other than my own irrelevant comments, it contains only old article text that is already archived here: diff. Please take a moment to verify what I've said. The section Joshua deleted clutters up the talk pages and serves no useful purpose. Thanks. -Tom Mmyotis ^^o^^ 22:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Me and the Orgone[edit]

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Spam in Niels G. Stolt-Nielsen[edit]

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T:DYKT#Articles created/expanded on May 3[edit]

Hi! They need verification for a DYK candidate with Norwegian references. Could you help? Punkmorten (talk) 07:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Without going into some minor detective work, I'm unsure what your request is for. Please clarify if this is still relevant. __meco (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Bot approved: dabbing help needed[edit]

Hi there. Fritz bot has been approved at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/FritzpollBot for filling in a possible 1.8 million articles on settlements across the world. Now dabbing needs to be done for links which aren't sorted as the bot will bypass any blue links. and I need as many people as possible to help me with Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places to prepare for the bot. If you could tackle a page or two everything counts as it will be hard to do it alone. Thankyou ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Your concerns in the Prayer article[edit]

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History of Wikipedia[edit]

Hi, can you please expand the section History_of_Wikipedia#Controversies and add more sources. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Interview with Åse Kleveland[edit]

The English Wikinews is going to be organizing an interview with the former Norwegian Culture Minister Åse Kleveland. She was also the head of the Swedish Film Institute and is now the chairwoman of the Norwegian Humanist Association. I am asking Wikipedians from all of the Scandinavian languages to contribute questions to her upcoming interview with Wikinews in Oslo. The page is here; please leave questions there and comments to me either on my en.wikinews talk page or my en.wikipedia talk page. Thank you very much! Mike H. Fierce! 01:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Harlow.jpg[edit]

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Kenneth E. Hagin[edit]

{{Fact}} tags have been on all of that for six months. His being dead doesn't make it ok to have massive amounts of unsourced controversial claims. See Jimbo's comments at .

Just being dead doesn't make it ok to violate WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR, etc. If nobody is going to provide sources for any of these claims, they get removed. --B (talk) 23:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Bates method[edit]

Hello. I noticed that on September 24, 2007 you gave the Bates method article a B-class rating for WikiProject Alternative Medicine. Since I couldn't find a place to request a reassessment in that WikiProject, I was wondering if you could take another look at that article to see whether the rating should be changed based on the revisions since then? Thanks. PSWG1920 (talk) 17:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

"Mononymous persons"[edit]

Thank you for expressing your opinion about retention of "Category:Mononymous persons."

There is a parallel discussion going on concerning the article on "Mononymous persons," at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_July_14#Mononymous_persons, if you would care to express your views there.

Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 06:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you once again! Nihil novi (talk) 07:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for adding those categories to the article Shawn Lonsdale. Not sure how I had missed those previously. Cirt (talk) 18:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikimania 2010 could be coming to Stockholm![edit]

I'm leaving you a note as you may be interested in this opportunity.

People from all six Nordic Wiki-communities (sv, no, nn, fi, da and is) are coordinating a bid for Wikimania 2010 in Stockholm. I'm sending you a message to let you know that this is occurring, and over the next few months we're looking for community support to make sure this happens! See the bid page on meta and if you like such an idea, please sign the "supporters" list at the bottom. Tack (or takk), and have a wonderful day! Mike H. Fierce! 11:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I really would like to hear your opinion on this. I see you've been active since I placed this message on your page and I would like to know what you think, whether you like it or not, etc. Mike H. Fierce! 15:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm afraid this is not something that currently interests me. __meco (talk) 15:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

In case you wish to comment...[edit]

There is a movement afoot to delete "Category:Mononymous entertainers," at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 July 31 — item 1.13. Nihil novi (talk) 08:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for participating and for adding WikiProject Anthroponymy notices to several articles and category pages.
At Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 July 31, item 1.16, there is, in case you are interested, another deletion effort, to abolish Category:Mononymous porn actors. Nihil novi (talk) 09:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Comma template[edit]

I nominated the template for speedy deletion (on the grounds that it didn't fill a meaningful purpose), which I understood was a process that would take 7 days. In fact, it took only seconds. I'm sorry if that didn't give you a chance to object. LarRan (talk) 20:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't mind. __meco (talk) 07:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Deletion review requested[edit]

Thank you for notifying me about this, I have made a comment over at the review page. Cheers. Deamon138 (talk) 17:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Mononym categories[edit]

Thanks for alerting me to the deletion review. I've commented, and I hope that my input is helpful. I also find it extremely...interesting, to say the least, that the same admin closed all three mononym-related CFD's, deleting all three--even though I fail to discern consensus to delete in any of them, especially in the latest one (i.e., Mononymous persons). Cosmic Latte (talk) 01:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Cityvalyu Edits on Aug. 17 2008 South Ossetia war[edit]

If you want to deal with him through WP procedures, please do so. I'm too new at editing here to know how and procedures for doing so. All I know is that he has soured me on the entire experience. thx --Jmedinacorona (talk) 15:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's war, you know. __meco (talk) 16:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Manly Palmer Hall[edit]

If you have a question about one of my edits, I would rather you ask me rather than attempting to go around me and get someone else to prove your position. MSJapan (talk) 14:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I have no questions about the issue you are referring to. __meco (talk) 15:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Oslo T-bane[edit]

Thanks for adding the map coordinated to the Oslo T-bane stations :) Could you just stick in {{oslo-metro-stub}} while you are at it instead of the other stub types. Saves me having to add the stub type myself later. Thanks Arsenikk (talk) 09:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yup. __meco (talk) 09:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

re:Three Dots Tattoo[edit]

Thanks for the notification. I'll have a look at the DRV. Sorry for any confusion caused by the lack of closing rationale. The debate doesn't seem as uncontroversial as I thought it was. Best, --PeaceNT (talk) 13:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


On the Kandahar article the following words are not POV, read the source at note 39 which says "US Deputy Secretary of State Walter Stoessel testified that, Soviet troops surrounded Afghanistan's second largest city, Kandahar, and subjected it to a savage artillery and air bombardment in which hundreds of innocent civilians lost their lives." [9] I was also there in Kandahar City when this occurred and witnessed it all.-- (talk) 12:19, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

It is the point of view of you and US Deputy Secretary of State Walter Stoessel that this bombardment was "savage". Now, this is a word which is hardly neutral by any standards. It can of course be included as part of a quotation if that can be justified, otherwise we shall be using a more neutral phrase. __meco (talk) 12:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Line 1 and Lambertseter[edit]

If you live in Oslo, you probably know this better than me, but I took a look at the subway schedule at and it seems that line 1 still operates to Bergkrystallen during the rush hour. Can you check this out and if necessary restore the line 1 links to the affected station articles? Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I will do that. __meco (talk) 14:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Some sort of dotted box or different frame color for "rush hour only" is of course a reasonable idea, but I am a self-confessed idiot when it comes to managing boxes and templates. Sjakkalle (Check!) 05:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll find someone to ask about it! __meco (talk) 07:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Helsfyr (station)[edit]

The article states "Helsfyr is located underground. Around the station is a bus terminal, and some industry". Can you please clarify what is meant by "some industry" (i.e. which industry)? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 17:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know quite how to describe this. It's various industries, some plants, workshops, industrially-oriented retailers, storage firms, etc. I'm not sure I'd want to put this into the article on the metro station. __meco (talk) 17:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Clean up[edit]

I'm not a person who should clean up these pages. I'm not gonna do this. I tried to help, I think signing category is not correct , but the rest is absolutely okay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marekchelsea (talkcontribs) 16:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

It was primarily the signed categories I was thinking of. I know you tried to help, but if you are unfamiliar with Wikipedia's guidelines and practices you should not just rush on and do what first comes to mind. You moved a lot of articles from a category that is currently under discussion for renaming. This is not appropriate. Those changes should only be done once the discussion is finished. Now there's a good chance somebody else will have to do clean-up work after you. That's not very helpful. __meco (talk) 17:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Join Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains‎[edit]

There you go, next time if you have other related questions, post them in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains‎, where has more eyes over there. I've also watched that Project page to seek help or help others if I can. Second thing, kinda advertising, if you're gonna create separate articles for Oslo T-bane routes, don't forget to try our Wikipedia:Route diagram template. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 08:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your taking the time do chip in! As you can see from my edits at the moment I have managed to make a rush hour icon, at least a first sketch. I've never done anything like that before, so that's a little fun. __meco (talk) 08:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Per Inge Torkelsen[edit]


Thanks for the nomination. I am curious what you thought of the translation for "Gi ungdommen en flaske brennevin før idretten tar dem"? Maybe you can think of a better/more understandable translation of it. Otherwise, maybe I should just keep the quote as it is and explain that he doesn't like sports in the introduction. SteveJothen 13:55, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

How about, "Give the youth a bottle of liquor before they are lost to athletics". I agree, it's tough to translate this phrase and retain the poetic and idiomatic flavour at the same time. __meco (talk) 15:30, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I like that translation a lot better. I'll update it. Thanks! SteveJothen 15:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveJothen (talkcontribs)


thanks for the help in maintaining my talk page free of obsolete discussions..Cityvalyu (talk) 00:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

POK page[edit]

there is a recently produced page on "POK pakistan occupied kashmir" which if you take the time to look at is blatant bias against pakistan unless this article is made neutral or better deleted there will be edit wars for the next centuries my freind i assure you that no justice no peace (talk) 09:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I am aware of this. __meco (talk) 10:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

can you help as you can read the "POK" article is totally infested with the indian point of view the indians editors also had the nerve to redirect azad kashmir from google search to the "POK" page can you do anything or do i need to speak to someone with more authority i.e administrators are you one by any chance? cheers not to be negative and all but unless this "POK" is removed or heavily neutralised this tension will go on for ages and im sure you got better things to do then listen to some sissy fits on wikipedia regarding indians and pakistani editors but unfortunately this will go on for several if not many months unless this "POK" page which i believe shouldnt exsist is sorted out (talk) 11:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I may involve myself. I cannot say this for sure though. Also, others are likely also to get involved as we cannot tolerate a biased article, especially on the contentious Kashmir issue. I am not an administrator. If you feel this should be brought to the attention of the admin corps, WP:AN or WP:ANI is the place for that, but I gather some attention from that direction has already been given to this matter. __meco (talk) 11:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

well thanks anyway for trying (talk) 12:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi meco just wanted to let you know that KashmirCloud is lobbying for votes to keep the POV POK ARTICLE is this allowed could you just check his edit history is lobbying allowed could i do it?(i only informed pahari sahib only one editor of the deletion process) (talk) 13:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what policies Wikipedia has on this, but I would say that lobbying is ok as long as one lobbies among other Wikipedia editors and doesn't seek to call on people who are unfamiliar to the editing process. It would be appropriate that this is announced in the discussion so that this can be taken into consideration by other parties and especially the closing admin. __meco (talk)

good nom[edit]

Updated DYK query On 4 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Per Inge Torkelsen, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Nice to see a non uk/us one Victuallers (talk) 21:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up[edit]

Re: Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates at September 7, 2008, I have commented as best I can. I'm not able to provide more succinct phrasing at this moment. Other obligations call. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 20:59, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

You seemed to be knowledgeable about these general matters, which I'm not. I'll see if something cannot be done to make this story into an article on its own merits. __meco (talk) 21:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I've never been involved with an In the News process. Should I propose revised blurb on the Sunday section, continuing the discussion there? -- Yellowdesk (talk) 15:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure that would be noticed. I'm not so omnicient myself in this process, but if it were supposed to be some place else I'm sure one of the more experienced editors involved will make the necessary changes. __meco (talk) 15:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Image nominations[edit]

Thanks a lot for taking care of he image nominations, good job. Just a hint, you might want to consider activating Twinkle. It makes these nominations a lot faster. You just enter your rationale and it does all the tagging and notification with one mouseclick. Fut.Perf. 09:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Head-up appreciated! I'll read about Twinkle and consider it. __meco (talk) 09:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for magazine covers[edit]

Despite your comment to the contrary, I am fairly well versed in the fair use rationale policy. As per WP:Non-free_content#Images a magazine cover is not acceptable to illustrate the article on the person whose photograph is on the cover. However, if the cover itself is the subject of sourced discussion in the article, and if the cover does not have its own article, it may be appropriate. This is the case in the history of private equity articles and as such is appropriate. I have yet to hear you articulate your position. I will wait to hear your response but it should direct itself to this part of the fair use rationale policy. |► ϋrbanяenewaℓTALK ◄| 16:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I do not see that the cover itself was the subject of sourced discussion in any of the numerous cases which are currently disputed. This was appropriately pointed out by other users in the IFD discussions for some of the images in which you also had your contrary say. As I see that you have stated the above opinion in said discussions I'd appreciate if any further discussion can be limited to the image deletion forum. __meco (talk) 17:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Category:International rivers[edit]

Should we be populating this category with boundary-only rivers? This is probably a good time to decide, while eyeballs are there. (Cross-posting to CharlotteWebb and Skookum1). Franamax (talk) 23:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

They certainly belong in the same hierarchy. The problem is compounded, I'm sure, by some rivers constituting a national border for some parts of their run and being international rivers in the sense which we have considered otherwise. I cannot have an opinion on this yet, though. __meco (talk) 06:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Locator maps[edit]

Hei Meco. Leste meldingen din på commons for en stund siden, men glemte det helt ut. Jeg kjente heller ikke til standardkravene for disse kartene. Har oppdaget at selv om koordinatene for rammen er så nøyaktige som de får blitt, så blir posisjonen feil når det er punkt nær midten av kartet. Jeg vil gjette på at dette kommer av at kartprojeksjonen er feil. Har aldri vært fornøyd med de posisjonskartene som alt eksisterer for Norge. Vi har et langstrakt land og detaljene forsvinner rett og slett. Jeg lagde derfor disse kartene på fylkesnivå, som jeg trodde fungerte, men som trolig er nokså unøyaktig i midtre områder av kartet. Et annet problem er at det finst svært få kart tilgjengelig på nettet som har med fylkesgrensene i landet, som jeg kunne ta utgangspunkt i. Et tredje problem er at i enkelte innlandsfylker så forsvinner litt av vitsen fordi det er ingen kjente landemerker på kartene å forholde seg til. Tenk hvor mye enklere det hadde vært å forholde seg til posisjoner på et kart over Hedmark eller Oppland om Mjøsa var tegnet inn på kartet. Det bør derfor være innsjøer med på fylkeskartene, og da faller kanskje kartene utenfor standardkriteriene, men det bryr jeg meg egentlig ikke så mye om. Kartene må jo kunne brukes.

Jeg tror uansett ikke jeg er i stand til å lage helt nye kart av typen som kreves ut i fra standarden så her må vi nok spørre om hjelp. Muligens vi kan ta utgangspunktet i dette kartet og klippe det opp i mindre biter, men skulle gjerne hatt med noen flere detaljer. --Frokor (talk) 21:16, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Revert on Lehman Brothers[edit]

Response to User talk:JavierMC/Archives/2008/September#Why did you revert me?

I was reverting a, IP68.192.67.123, vandal who had chosen this article to included erroneous/nonsense information. When I searched through the history to find the last clean edit, before the IP's vandalism, I reverted to that edit. I apologize for inadvertently reversing your inclusion in the article of the nav box.--«JavierMC»|Talk 09:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Financial crisis of 2007-2008[edit]

Financial crisis of 2007-2008 is a current event due to the rapid real-life progress of the event currently. While it is not being edited intensively, the event itself is evolving rapidly, thus the article at any time may not reflect the progress of events. Fred Talk 14:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

If you read the template documentation you will note that this is not what this template is for. That is why both I and Yellowdesk included wikilink to to the template instructions which mentions this. __meco (talk) 15:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the cleanup[edit]

for cleaning up the IMB.User talk:Yousaf465

You are referring to the Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing article. Obviously the YouTube reference had to go, but AAJ TV has an article with a lot of information that should be incorporated into ours. __meco (talk) 09:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, meco[edit]

It is a pity that you cannot edit at the norwegian Wiki, cause I have just posted this :, but it seems to require further translation. You should have seen it before! Terribly biased. I think you will agree that my edit is much more repectful toward the 10-11 million palestinians, and those two 'jenter' from Bethlehem resembles some from Vestlandet! I think you should simply switch ISP's and in this way get a new IP adress so that you can edit again there. You might even get a better deal, in terms of costs. {{U.S. strikes in Bajour/Waziristan}} What I today have contributed to the Mariott Hotel affair, was how this comes after an escalation of US attacks this months, which you will see in the template I have put in. You simply got to have this infor in the back of your head, if you want to get a clue about why this happened, and an idea of how to tackle it. Terrorism doesn't come out of the blue, and clearly some in Pakistan have been antagonised iover these increased US attacks, and that also explains the Pakistan-U.S standoff 15 September 2008, because clearly the leadership in Pakistan have a feeling what the response might be, if they let US troops in. Update:I just found this on an Administrators page. That means that in all probability, you will be able to create a new account on the norwegian wikipedia.(provided you choose another name)>Note that IP addresses cannot be blocked indefinitely in almost all circumstances; The person behind a single IP address may frequently change.< Yours sincerely Nick Finnsbury (talk) 14:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Coastal and port cities and towns[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Coastal and port cities and towns. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- Suntag 01:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as you appear to be the lone advocate for "port settlements", I think these changes are becoming more than a bit disruptive. It is clear there is no consensus for it and a DRV is likely to restore most of these categories to the previous status quo, so let's leave it and see what happens. Orderinchaos 13:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Lone advocate? Did you miss everyone at the CFD that was for it? You count everyone from AWNB who missed the CFD to show that there was "no consensus", but conveniently forget everyone who was for it when incorrectly portraying Meco as a "lone advocate". Does your definition of "consensus" change to suit your needs? I also find it bizarre that you chastised me for enforcing a CFD decision, and yet you are preemptively reverting the changes less than two days into the DRV. What's your definition of disruptive? --Kbdank71 17:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I do not see any other mention of "port settlements" on the CfD - I read carefully. Meco was the only one who raised it at all, and it was so late in the piece that nobody else commented on that part of the proposal before the thing closed. This is one of the great problems of mass noms with several complex parts and a variety of implications combined with insufficient discussion and restricted input from affected parties (who are far more likely to understand the implications, given they actually manage the content, and may well even have expertise or qualifications in the area), that some things can "get through" without ever being discussed or even acknowledged. As for reverting changes - I don't see anyone else likely to do it (there are no DRV specific bots which handle these sort of un-changes), and it's a big job - might as well start now. Restoring the status quo could not even *nearly* be argued to be as disruptive as what you guys managed to pull off. Orderinchaos 22:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


Current events globe On 25 September, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item involving the article(s) Kgalema Motlanthe, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently updated or created article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--SpencerT♦C 23:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Source needed for Image:Planta 4a.jpg[edit]

Hey. Thanks for dealing with this. I'm barely active on Wikipedia any more so I seldom get a chance to deal with things like this. In this case the source of the image is implicit in the image itself -- it's the film poster. --ⁿɡ͡b Nick Boalch\talk 10:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought they needed to know either that it was a scan or what webpage it was found at. I suppose then it was a scan? __meco (talk) 10:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Jeg har skrevet en god del av artikkelen, men ytterligere bidrag er naturligvis velkomne. Imidlertid ser jeg at du har skrevet en del om Ring 3, og her går jo Granfosstunnelen rett under Lysakerelven rett nord for Granfossen, også kjent som Fåbrofossen. Hvis du har lyst til å skrive en stub/spire om Granfosstunnelen, kan jeg legge det inn som en lenke. --Leifern (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Jupp, bare minner om {{uw-english}}. __meco (talk) 12:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Granfoss Tunnel is ready. __meco (talk) 14:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


Response to: User_talk:Jons63#Incomprehensible

On the talk page a consensus has been reached as to what belongs on the page. The consensus is that people with less than 10 foreign language articles do not belong on the page. Jons63 (talk) 12:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Recovered talk page[edit]

As promised, I've recovered the last version of the talk page to User talk:Ronnotel/Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. You can merge anything you want from that page as required. Sorry for the mis-communication. Ronnotel (talk) 01:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Very good. I've recovered the Claim by Brad Sherman, D-CA, that plan is covertly set up to bail out foreign banks, not US section. That's the only one I was interested in. __meco (talk) 07:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't game the system[edit]

Post presumably in response to User talk:Technopat#Mode of discourse hinging on discussion at Talk:Meco

Meco, you know and I know what you are doing. Please stop wasting other editors' time. The claim you yourself added needs a reference. Full stop.

I have added the following at the Meco article talk page:

Meco - why add the template requesting verification now after having put the claim there yourself almost a year ago (11 December 2007)? Please stop gaming the system. Regards from your friendly, neighbourhood idiosyncratic Wikipedia editor. Copy to Meco's talkpage.

--Technopat (talk) 20:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Your Sarfatti deletion of Oct 8, 2008[edit]

In fact there is a reference Dice 2008 in written works with website and the proceedings will be published in IOP Physics A. As to Sarfatti's usenet inactivity for past few years a Google search shows that. I am not a regular contributor to Wiki and forgot my password to log in. Britjones :-)

PS The information on Sarfatti and Uri Geller is false as shown in recent photos of Sarfatti & Geller at and the fact that they appear in same motion picture I may have mis-spelled it stayarusa? It's Dutch.

Meco - Star Wars[edit]

Hi, I just want to say thanks for the work you have put into expanding the article Meco, and I also want to distinguish myself from Technopat, whose manner of communication with you I find to have been distasteful. I want you to know I did some searching on the RIAA web site to see what I data I could find on the matter. All I could find is that both the Meco album and the original score album are certified platinum. I don't know where else to look for sales data, if you do, let me know. Thanks, Mike R (talk) 18:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I found an expert who told me the same. If someone would write a mail to the guy who runs the Meco fan page, maybe he would know where to look. He even has established contact with Monardo himself so, that may be a place to try. __meco (talk) 20:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


Current events globe On 11 October, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item involving the article(s) 2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently updated or created article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--SpencerT♦C 13:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Moving versus removing[edit]

Commenting on me removing a digressing chat from a project discussion page:

User talk:Greg L/Sewer cover in front of Greg L’s house. Depends who can be bothered, really, I suppose. :-) Carcharoth (talk) 10:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Excellent solution! __meco (talk) 10:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Nini Stoltenberg[edit]

Updated DYK query On 20 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nini Stoltenberg, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Keep up the good work! ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 13:49, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:Template category[edit]

Hi. Only just noticed your query at the above -- sorry not to've spotted it earlier -- and have now left a reply with query in turn. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

WP Brahmoism[edit]

FYI. There are only three active members in WP:Brahmoism and all have been blocked as sock puppets of User:Ronosen. :) Docku:“what up?” 13:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know that. I just add WikiProject templates when I see it fit without doing much background checking. I'll keep this in mind though. __meco (talk) 13:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Kristian Vilhelm Koren Schjelderup, Jr[edit]

Do you plan to add actual references to this article per WP:RS and WP:V, and do you have any sources for the very broad statements made in the article? -- Amused Repose Converse! 20:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

No. __meco (talk) 07:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Puzzled by edit to Neustrashimy class frigate[edit]

Hello. One of your edits to the Neustrashimy class frigate article has me puzzled. Unless it was an accident, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you removed half of the external links as well as the article's only template, all of its cats, and the interwiki links [10]. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 13:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

That was an error. __meco (talk) 13:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)


done. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Very good! __meco (talk) 14:28, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Gay Kids – Kule barn som også finnes[edit]

Updated DYK query On 11 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gay Kids – Kule barn som også finnes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cirt (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Request to move article Karl Johans Street incomplete[edit]

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You recently filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to move the page Karl Johans Street to a different title - however your proposal is either incomplete or has been contested as being controversial. As a result, it has been moved to the incomplete and contested proposals section. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

  1. Added {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article. This creates the required template for you there.
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If you need any further guidance, please leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves or contact me on my talk page. - JPG-GR (talk) 02:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Request to move article Niels Juels Street incomplete[edit]

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Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

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Re: Arne Barhaugen[edit]

Hi. The source for his death can be found in the link that I provided, the second one in the article: Arne Barhaugen's profile at Sport's Cheers, CP 15:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome message[edit]

Thanks for the welcome message! I'll have a good read over the policies. I've read a few of them before, but I'll try and get my head around them. See ya around. New Sonic Hedgehog (talk) 11:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure! If you like, check out WP:RAVE. __meco (talk) 12:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Welcome message[edit]

Thanks for the welcome message. I see that you are also interested in F Gulen article. Would you like to continue contributing it? Mastercasper (talk) 16:59, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I have received a lot of input on Gülen and the Gülen Movement this last year mainly from Leo Zagami, and you may be aware that he is on a crusade against Gülen's work of inter-religious detente. I still haven't been able to read the article in sum nor appraise myself fully as to the past controversies over its editing. I will maintain a focus on this material though and I may step into the process more fully in time. __meco (talk) 17:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Your edits[edit]

I'm looking at your recent edits of 2008 Kabul Serena Hotel attack. You are removing sourced statements from the article and you are not providing any rationale for your edits. Could you please explain this action? __meco (talk) 09:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I was simplifying the details on what happened to the militants so there is less confusion. I was making it more factual. Is that alright with you? OOODDD (talk) 17:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
By more factual, do you assert that the cited sources were previously misrepresented? __meco (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK issue[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Jammu (city) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed. There still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Orlady (talk) 23:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Jammu (city)[edit]

Updated DYK query On 10 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jammu (city), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 06:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Herman Wildenvey[edit]

Post in response to this entry on user's talk page.

The only reason that I put it at low is that we are currently working on a set of criteria for importance on our project's talk page, but at present, we are reserving mid-top importance for those articles that are vital to poetry in English, since our list of active members has fallen drastically over the past few months, and we are trying to keep the higher importances for articles like John Keats that is still start class despite its importance. Its really a matter of degrees at the moment, while Wildenvey is extremely important to world poetry, he is simply less important than articles that need much more attention from us at present. But I do thank you for your interest. Mrathel (talk) 13:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Very well. I will leave the issue at rest. Maybe some more discussion on this particular case will emerge in the future, and perhaps then in a more developed context. __meco (talk) 13:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I do hope so. Also, please feel free to take up the matter on the project's talk page, but my appologies for the lack of a concrete answer will also have to apply for the fact that you will only receive replies from about 2 other members.Mrathel (talk) 13:39, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

On another note, tagging new articles will contribute also to the recruitment of new project members. __meco (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Ministry of Human Rights at DYK[edit]

Hi Meco. For the Ministry of Human Rights article, try adding info from Find sources: "Ministry of Human Rights" Pakistan – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference to get it over the 1,500 DYK character count. -- Suntag 19:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Excellent tips. I have expanded the article now! __meco (talk) 08:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Ministry of Human Rights[edit]

Updated DYK query On 20 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ministry of Human Rights, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Million Fax on Washington[edit]

Updated DYK query On 25 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Million Fax on Washington, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 05:53, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Chief Justice John Roberts[edit]

Don't forget to include him in your excellent graph re Catholic Supreme Court Justices. Happy New Year. 20:44, 29 December 2008 (UTC) Stan

I'll see if I can't get to it today! __meco (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Adult-child sex[edit]

Can you dig up relevant references or write a draft in userspace? I think either would help the DRV case. If John254 is blatantly wrong, then redirecting the page would merely promote the opposite viewpoint (be it a more prevalent one). Having a scientifically supported article at the location would avoid any bickering about where it should redirect to. - Mgm|(talk) 11:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think going into the festering matter is wise on this occasion. I don't see why a simple disambiguation page linking to both child sexual abuse and pedophilia would necessitate references. Anything beyond that would be sure to reignite the past wars, and anyone who nitpicks to the level of demanding references for the page which I propose I am readily prepared to assert is acting in bad faith. __meco (talk) 11:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
It will have to wait for a few days, it seems. __meco (talk) 17:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Cats in sandbox[edit]

I have no-wikied the categories on your sandbox page because it is not desirable for user pages to appear in category lists. Hope that's ok. SpinningSpark 01:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Certainly. __meco (talk) 08:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


I have requested the page be made editable. I would like to move the old exopolitics article from your sandbox there with an under- construction tag added. I will have to do some major reconstruction to bring it up to snuff, but it's certainly a notable subject. Is it okay if I do this? I don't really know what the rules are regarding using the article from your sandbox. Thank. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I had a willing administrator provide me with a copy of the deleted article and place it in my sandbox. I personally think the smartest route here is to make a publishable version out of this before requesting unprotection of the salted article name. __meco (talk) 12:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Never mind that. I didn't notice you already had the article up and running. Then all that is left is to make it impervious to AFD nominations. __meco (talk) 12:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Corporate usernames[edit]

Company names as usernames are not, of themselves, blockable, I agree. However when taken in conjunction with the creation of spam (and clearly COI) pages about that company, its operations and staff, then it becomes blockable - Wikipedia:U#Company.2Fgroup_names. GbT/c 17:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I think a warning and reverting would suffice to remedy this. If the lesson is not learnt by that, then we can block. These were not bad faith edits and the user was (we must assume) a new user. __meco (talk) 17:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
No, they're not bad faith edits, which is why they're softblocked, not hardblocked, and free to start a new account with (this time) a username which is in accordance with the username policy. Warning and reverting wouldn't suffice simply because it's the username itself which is unacceptable because it's (a) the name of a company and (b) being used to promote that company. The block notice tells them how to either create a new account, with an acceptable username, or to request a change of username for the existing account. GbT/c 17:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

BLP & Obama[edit]

Comments below relate to this discussion: Talk:Barack_Obama#Dancing_Obama,

Hello, BLP does indeed apply to article talk space. It applies everywhere. rootology (C)(T) 17:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, my apologies, but please consider this an official warning. BLP is one of our most important policies, and restoring your personal OR opinion that he "dances like a robot" as that relates to his personal character is not helpful. Please note that removals under BLP are always exempt from 3RR, but your reinsertions are not. You might want to review WP:3RR and WP:BLP. Thanks. rootology (C)(T) 17:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

As a second opinion from an uninvolved administrator, I don't find your contributions, Meco, to be all that helpful or constructive. The comments were nothing more than original research, unverifiable, uncited and thus failed BLP. seicer | talk | contribs 17:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
And I noticed you are at 3 reverts: [11] [12] [13] [14]. Note that by continuously adding in this particular passage can result in a block, regardless if you have violated 3RR. Don't push your luck there. seicer | talk | contribs 18:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Dancing Obama, BLP and ANI[edit]

As there is *clear* consensus on removal of your contents as a BLP vio but you've readded it over several days, I asked for help on ANI here. rootology (C)(T) 14:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Meco, your personal opinion, or mine, matters not at WP, unless a conflict of interest is being discussed. If you can find a respected and published source as to Obama's dancing ability, find it and add it. Otherwise, you are merely trolling, and for that, you may be blocked or banned. You have been here in the community long enough to know the big rules. Please be nice. Bearian (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Meco, will you agree to not reinsert this offending material again? This question is in response to this, so that you don't end up possibly blocked. rootology (C)(T) 16:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

It is not a BLP violation and there is no consensus to that effect. I believe the removal of the material, and the above warning, are not appropriate. However, it will become an issue if edit warring continues. You don't have to admit you were wrong, but an acknowledgment that you will not re-add it should put this whole thing to rest. The discussion is done, the material is not a good fit for the main Obama page, and there isn't anything to gain by continuing this.Wikidemon (talk) 10:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
I accede the assessment presented by Wikidemon as I have just stated on WP:ANI. I refer to that entry also for my own perspective on the role of some intervening parties. __meco (talk) 07:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Request for reversal of closure[edit]

Hi. In fact, according to the discussion so far, after almost 3 days I think that there was forming a clear snowball keep. Moreover, as far as I understand you are questioning the procedure being held often in Wikipedia talk pages and not only the templates themselves. So, I think you have to start a discussion about consensus-building process and if this procedure is in contradiction with it. Thus, IMHO, you have to find a more appropriate place to do this discussion and not the TfD page. Of course, you can start a new TfD if you think it was closed improperly but still I think this is not the correct procedure to discuss your concerns about the consensus-building process. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Medical cannabis[edit]

Discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Alternative Views

Years in Norway[edit]

Thanks for the message of support. Best wishes. Ardfern (talk) 22:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

1984 in Norway[edit]

Hi. Have a look at 1984 in Norway and its discussion page. About two seconds after I had put the page up it was nominated for speedy deletion. Any help from yourself and colleagues would be appreciated. Ardfern (talk) 18:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Problem with deletion nominations of 'Years in' articles[edit]

Hi. I haven't engaged with this because I prefer to get on and do the work. I just don't have the time or the patience to get involved in protracted debates and arguments. Feel free however. Ardfern (talk) 19:56, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

David Icke[edit]

The IP note makes unsupported and damning claims about a living person, in addition to soapboxing on Icke's behalf for funds. (Please note that I am not defending the accused individual, but rather insisting that our basic rules are followed.) Our rules about living persons and soapboxing apply to talk space as much as article space. Additionally, your comment borders on an accusation of plagarism, which is against the basic principle of our strict standards regarding living persons. You have been previously made aware that negative speculative opinions about living persons are inappropriate for talk page discussion and that such material may be removed. Please do not restore the removed posts. Thank you for your understanding. --Vassyana (talk) 15:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Deleting my Discussion[edit]

Wow, how condescending. I've been here for almost as long as you, and I don't think you looked carefully at the edits I made to the discussion before you deleted it again. You are not an administrator, you have no more rights than I do, and you've also deleted several other user's responses to my posts, so leave it alone.ReignMan (talk) 03:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

re: amen medcab[edit]

If you'd like, I can reopen the case as new. Right now, the case page is hidden in the depths of the closed cases category. Xavexgoem (talk) 08:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Ali Farah case[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of The Ali Farah case at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

From Estonia[edit]

Hello! Thank you for these warm greetings! Actually I am from Estonia, and I write articles for Estonian version of Wikipedia. But I'll try to give my best helping improve Wikipedia. Changeant 11.04.09 at 17:29 (GMT+2) —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC).

Very well! I just noticed that you had contributed to a number of Norway-related articles. __meco (talk) 14:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


Why subst the lifetime template? Punkmorten (talk) 11:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't say that lifetime should be replaced by defaultsort, though. Punkmorten (talk) 15:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
You might take an interest in the discussion about that which takes place on the template talk page. __meco (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Mostafa Abdellaoue[edit]

Hvorfor fjernet du henvisningen til Lillestrøm-utlånet? Jeg legger det til igjen, med referanse. Neste gang setter du et tag istedet for å fjerne det helt. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC).

I didn't remove anything.. __meco (talk) 04:04, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Template for Vålerenga IF Squad (as seen at the bottom of Vålerenga players is incorrect. Mostafa Abdellaoue is number 20, but in template Jørgen Horn is number 20, but he is not playing there anymore. How do one change this? Where is the data for this:

? (aediasse)

I'll fix it. __meco (talk) 15:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


Look down the article, you will notice a sea of little blue numbers, that is because everything is cited. That Lil Green patch has an article does not mean that it is notable, nor does it mean that you need to add it to the Facebook article. If it is popular then you will have no trouble finding sources for that claim. The Scrabble this was notable because it lead to a lawsuit, this application is not notable and if it is even in the top ten or top three then that means there are nine or tow other applications more notable. Darrenhusted (talk) 14:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Robert Anton Wilson book cover[edit]

You have removed the image Illum EitP-1975.jpeg from the above page because: "Fair Use rationale insufficient for use of image in this article." Would be grateful if you could tell me in what respects in your view the fair use rationale is insufficient, and how I might rectify any such inadequacy. Many thanks & regards. Wingspeed (talk) 21:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


It's really OK to assert on Wikipedia that aliens exist? --Johnnyturk888 (talk) 14:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

It's OK to present groups who believe this without adding one's own opinion on the soundness of such beliefs. __meco (talk) 07:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Define soundness (ResearchALLwars (talk) 21:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC))

Date format change[edit]

I didn't have time to change all the dates. The original date format may be consistent within that particular article, but is actually inconsistent with the 200 other Years in Norway articles. I will get round to making it fully consistent with all other articles in due course. Ardfern (talk) 20:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You do realize, don't you, that the format which existed uniformly before you began updating these articles is the one you are changing away from? __meco (talk) 21:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Category: Catholic Justices on the U.S. Supreme Court[edit]

They are trying to delete this category. I thought you should know. You may have something to add. They didn't notify me. Go here for the discussion.] 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2009 (UTC) Stan

Wiki Project Proposal[edit]

I saw your comment on Tunnels. Care to join me in starting a WikiProject Tunnels? Comments accepted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/TunnelsPustelnik (talk) 23:45, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Picture on Space Ibiza[edit]

Dear Meco,

I deleted a picture on Space Ibiza, which was not related to the wiki. The picture was taken in Shanghai, China which only the club's name was Space Ibiza, while the wiki was about the Space Ibiza in Spain. Also the picture which was originally taken from Flickr, the CC had been changed to All Right Reserved. Therefore, I removed the picture off the wiki. I will remove the picture of the Wiki page again, if you have any question, plese leave a shout at the flickr account which the removed picture was oringally taken from.

Best regards, K. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:43, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Since the image does not in fact depict Space, Ibiza the photo should not illustrate this article. On the other hand, the image was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons duly as it had then a free licence. This can not be undone. Once released this way a more restrictive licence may not be applied, certainly not when another party (Wikimedia Commons) has already republished it under the original licence. If you want the image deleted from Commons, you must go there since that is the common repository for all Wikipedia, and similar, projects. __meco (talk) 13:02, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Did You Know problem[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Grue Church fire at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Art LaPella (talk) 05:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Grue Church fire[edit]

Updated DYK query On June 7, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Grue Church fire, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Backslash Forwardslash 21:56, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith[edit]

I have conducted a review of this article as part of the GA sweeps process. There are some issues which need addressing, which can be found at Talk:No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith/GA1. The article is on hold for seven days, so that these concerns may be addressed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


Asus (ASUS) is a commercial manufacturer of computer thingies. Also, even if a company is notable, its employees are not necessarily so. :) A lack of ghits is often a good indicator of a vanity entry. :) -- Fullstop (talk) 12:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mean the computer company. I believe there's an NGO or something akin in Pakistan by that name. __meco (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
the people who work for it are not automatically notable too. -- Fullstop (talk) 08:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
True, but it's hard to tell when we wouldn't have anything except a redlink in any case. There are many redlinks on the disambig pages, and some discretion must be allowed for in such cases. __meco (talk) 10:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Let me see if I understand this correctly: Are you arguing that a biography of perhaps-notable person X, employed by perhaps-existent NGO Y, will be created because someone will visit a surname index?
Is this a correct summary of your rationale to keep a poorly formatted and obvious vanity entry -- with no google hits for either person or "NGO" -- in a surname dab? -- Fullstop (talk) 18:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009[edit]

Information.svg Talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Jim Tucker, is considered bad practice. Thank you. Verbal chat 12:08, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops.. I didn't notice that. I thought I only did what I stated in the edit summary. Perhaps you should have asked if I meant to delete what I did, especially considering the edit summary, before assuming bad faith? __meco (talk) 12:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
No assumption of bad faith, this is a reminder. Verbal chat 12:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Jim Tucker RFC[edit]

Hopely the purpose of the WP:RFC should be a little clearer now. Artw (talk) 18:43, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

August 2009[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ian Stevenson. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Verbal chat 12:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

You are engaging in silly editorship. I made one revert. Also, your previous contact with me should make you realize that this line of behaviour is counter-productive. __meco (talk) 13:31, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Ian Stevenson[edit]

Yes, there was an RfC, but it degenerated into claim and counter-claim, and ended up inconclusive, though the discussion did lead to a compromise in the end; at least, it had when I last looked. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 02:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

FYI: re DYK[edit]

I've notified the author of the other article that it might make sense to combine the two hooks: [15] Cheers, JN466 23:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

  • I've just realised that the two of you were talking about this already, so please excuse my slowness in catching on; too many user names to keep in mind. --JN466 00:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Narcissist much?[edit]

"We require some better publicity" you said on the Paul L. page. Who the Hell is "we"? You don't speak for me or millions of other Christians or scientists, who made you anyone's spokesperson? Are you noteworthy? CLEARLY no more than Paul L. Get lost Pharisee.Serpentdove (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I need "temperance"?[edit]

You don't know the meaning of the word and it doesn't mean "Whatever I king meco of noteworthiness and spokesperson for the world and all Christians and the alternative energy community says it means. Just because you can couch your anger in smugness doesn't make you superior, it makes you a hypocrite. Get over yourself and delete your account and all your opinions because God and I do not think they are noteworthy using your standard of noteworthiness. Oh wait, you're standard is, "Whatever I say is noteworthy because I'm meco who babbles away on Wikipedia acting like I'm king of all and represent everyone include those I speak against."

As for me supposedly needing temperance, get that log out of your own eye before fiddling with the splinter you imagine is in mine. Get your priorities straight and stop being hypocritical.Serpentdove (talk) 23:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


You're talking about yourself meco: stop libeling and get over your "unnoteworthy" self. You're an absurd nobody babbler who bullies others greater then himself in order to be noticed. You're a sad quick to judge little man who "rushed headlong" with disregard for your neighbor in arrogance and petty unjustified jealousy. You know what that makes you right? Did I not just create the Paul and Naudin pages when while editing them and adding references you and some radio guy suddenly popped in whining about how I noted them and yet saying they weren't noteworthy? So whose "rushed headlong" you time-waster? Seriously, get over yourself and look up the meaning of narcissist.

Contesting the noteworthiness of the Nuadin was absurd: again, who the Hell are you mr. royal "we"? Are you the rep. of noteworthiness? The president of notability? By your own arbitrary standard you're a nobody and yet you contest the notability of other while promoting yourself as someone whose opinion matters! You're taking advantage of a silly rule to exalt your nobody self. Naudin is mentioned many times on Youtube and throughout the alternative energy community and was noted on a French news television channel and a spinoff of invention or rather spinoff of Townsend Brown's invention was tested by Mythbusters who is noted on Wikipedia for their widely publicized experiments and they've "noted" his work. Noteworthinness depends on whoever considers a thing noteworthy, not "consensus". Your "this is not noteworthy to "we" is an immature stop making cheap shot. Stop trying to force people to play your boring Dungeons and Dragons delusion with you. I won't submit to your feelings.Serpentdove (talk) 23:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I have started an ANI report about this editor. Please feel free to contribute. Verbal chat 08:59, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I may. I was however considering their behaviour so over-the-top that I simply cannot take any of it at face value. __meco (talk) 09:04, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Serpentdove has also started an WP:AN3 report against you, though it has no content at the moment. Verbal chat 09:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Heads-up appreciated. It's ludicrous. __meco (talk) 09:17, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Die Konsequenz[edit]

Updated DYK query On August 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Die Konsequenz, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wikiproject: Did you know? 10:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Die Konsequenz[edit]

Updated DYK query On August 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Die Konsequenz, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wikiproject: Did you know? 16:00, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


Information.svg Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review the essay Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humour. Best wishes. User:Fayenatic london (talk) 02:35, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβςWP Physics} 17:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
I sympathise with your reaction, and as you misread the AfD for a PROD, which the present section header also indicates, I understand why this happened. From my perspective I merely considered the likelihood of an experienced editor removing and AfD notice a remote one, and I did not see any reason for checking if you were in fact an experienced editor who could have been assumed to have misread which template they were removing. __meco (talk) 17:47, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Hey, no biggie, it's meant in good fun. :P Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 19:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Appreciate the links, though. They could come in handy. __meco (talk) 20:19, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

BLP violation at Peter Duesberg[edit]

Meco, Thank you for checking on the Peter Duesberg biography. I had overlooked this apparent BLP violation until the change and your reversion. Although I would have done it differently (and now I have, with a note), I agree with the removal of the comment in question per WP:BLP and WP:TALK. The comment charges a living person, a well-known scientist, with fraud, lies and unethical behaviour. The only source given is a self-published work by an AIDS denialist. I have removed the comment, and I feel the entire section should be archived given its age and the BLP dangers of unsourced statements therein asserting that Bob Gallo somehow avoided peer review of his research. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Translation Request[edit]

Hi there, greetings. Would you have time to please translate this english article into the Norwegian language? The article is short, and thus it wouldn't take much time. Thank you very much. Best regards. Amsaim (talk) 20:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

List of Roman Catholic United States Supreme Court justices[edit]

They are trying to delete this. Please comment. 13:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC) Stanbb

AfD nomination of Denialism[edit]

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AfD nomination of Jim Tucker[edit]

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Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Artw (talk) 22:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Michael Aquino's Page Deletion[edit]

I saw here that you all said you couldn't find any reliable sources for biographical data. I wanted to know if you knew any Setians, Satanists, or others with libraries who might provide you with such references, such as i have at my disposal, or if this was a case of severely restrictive criteria for inclusion based on the individual wanting his page removed. thanks. -- self-ref (nagasiva yronwode) (talk) 01:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I am certain Michael Aquino is a figure notable enough for a Wikipedia biography, and if adequate sourcing exists I would help in maintaining and developing such an article. I am not aware of any persons in my network that would fit those labels, unfortunately. __meco (talk) 09:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I notice that[edit]

you just changed Lyall Watson's birthdate from "April 12" to "13 April", Are you sure that you are correct? At least this source [16] goes with the 12th. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

It was a typo. I have fixed it. _meco (talk) 10:22, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

ITN for Dubai World[edit]

Current events globe On 26 November 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Dubai World, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the candidates page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

No thanks[edit]

There's "pointed" commentary and there's trolling and WP:TALK violations (for which the IP has been blocked). This definitely fell under the latter category. The talkpage is hard enough to keep under control as it is without pointless rants clogging it up. Moreschi (talk) 20:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I realize that now. __meco (talk) 21:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Cheers, Moreschi (talk) 21:03, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

"Hide the Decline"[edit]

In a response to your comment on the discussion page for Climategate, the tune used for "Hide the Decline" was Tommy James' "Draggin' the Line" (1971). Please feel free to delete this section from your page as soon as you've read this note. (talk) 04:41, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Royal Dutch Philips[edit]

A tag has been placed on Royal Dutch Philips, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.

If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. R'n'B (call me Russ) 12:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Royal Dutch Philips[edit]

Hi. I have just deleted this page you created, because it was simply a redirect to itself. I'm letting you know because that is presumably not what you intended. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 13:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Erling Folkvord for DYK?[edit]

Nope, i will nominate it for Good Article status. You can take care of the DYK nomination if you want to. --TIAYN (talk) 15:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll do that as soon as I see your GA nom in place. __meco (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 Done, i'm nominating the article to GA, the only thing thats left is to re-write the lead. So you can nominate the article for a DYK, if you want. --TIAYN (talk) 14:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Question, are you fixing the grammar problems on the Folkvord page? If so, shouldn't you replace the banner with the underconstruction one? --TIAYN (talk) 15:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm fixing some, but I doubt I will make the thorough effort which is needed. __meco (talk) 15:48, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
What kind of grammar problems are we talking about??? --TIAYN (talk) 15:49, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Basic English spelling, conjugation, sentence patterns, choice of words, pretty basic but irritating, sometimes confusing items. __meco (talk) 15:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Death criteria[edit]

I hope my comments didn't sound condescending or rude. You do have a right to challenge the current criteria, and please feel free to do so on the ITN talk page. I actually think one of the things that made the death criteria more relaxed than before is forceful inclusions of certain U.S. items such as Ted Kennedy's death, which was added against the general consensus of ITN regulars. Then people think: "if Kennedy made it, then why not this, why not that..." You see my point. Again, please don't be offended at my replies. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm certainly not offended. I just got incensed by this particular item. Now I shall contemplate whether or not to instigate a principle discussion on the death criterion. __meco (talk) 14:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

DYK for 2009 Norwegian spiral anomaly[edit]

Updated DYK query On December 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 2009 Norwegian spiral anomaly, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 19:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Comment moved from userpage[edit]

From: Spectral Enforcer

So you claim my change was "original work or thought" and that it cannot be accepted hm? What do you call the quote you have from Jonathan McDowell then. It is his opinion that an alleged Russian rocket malfunctioned in the way he claims it to have. Since when is a private individual's opinion any less valid than the opinion of an astrophysicist that most likely has no firm grasp of Rocket science? Oh, that's right, it's not any less valid. Just that you control the editing of the page so you say who is valid or not regardless of merit. :)

Classy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpectralEnforcer (talkcontribs)

I have responded on the user's talk page. __meco (talk) 20:59, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
moved text from user front page:

From Spectral Enforcer:
Thanks for the offer, however I have never fancied discussing anything in a committee. I simply misunderstood the dynamic of Wikipedia as i've never bothered to attempt to post to it before. It seems, after closer inspection, it is little more than an outlet for supposed news that already may be found on television or in the newspapers. So, it's unlikely, if my research has not made it there, it will not make it onto here.

Again thanks for the offer and I've no malice towards you, it's possible you simply don't know any better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpectralEnforcer (talkcontribs) 22:56, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Erling Folkvord[edit]

Updated DYK query On December 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Erling Folkvord, which you recently nominated. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 19:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Norwegian Wiccans[edit]

I have nominated Category:Norwegian Wiccans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:Wiccans (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 04:27, 26 December 2009 (UTC)