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Articles created/expanded on February 14

Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder

• ... that people who suffer from Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder are unable to feel pleasure from an orgasm?

• Reviewed: Battle of Quebec (ice hockey)

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 10:14 pm, 13 February 2011, Sunday (13 days ago) (UTC−5)

All checks out. --TIAYN (talk) 8:51 am, 14 February 2011, Monday (12 days ago) (UTC−5)

Returned from Prep 4 per concerns on DYK discussion page. - Dravecky (talk) 6:58 am, 23 February 2011, last Wednesday (3 days ago) (UTC−5)

I'm tackling the issues right now. I forgot to reply here on this but I had to wait until the weekend until I could find some actual time to improve this article. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment This submsission was removed here and then restored by the nominator. SpinningSpark 13:13, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I forgot to reply here after replying on the Wikipedia talk page for this process. Therefore, it looked as though I had no interest in improving it. I didn't realize this until it was removed so I added it back in as I wanted to continue improving it. I have added a few things at the moment and am awaiting a copyedit from a friend as well as adding of symptoms within the next day or so by me. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I would oppose this going on the main page for now. The references do not, for the most part, meet WP:MEDRS. While the authors of the "Institute for Sexual Medicine" may be experts or practitioners in their field, it does not seem that their website is appropriately peer-reviewed. This does not seem to be a very reliable source, though I could be wrong. Ref #4 is written by someone who is a professor emeritus of psychology at Fuller Theological Seminary, hardly a reliable medical source. This page needs to be reviewed and possibly rewritten by the good folks of the Medicine Wikiproject. NW (Talk) 00:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Here is the WT:DYK thread relating to this nomination:

please check the last article Pleasure Dissociative Orgasmic Disorder - I am slightly worried by its sources and capitalization. Materialscientist (talk) 00:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I note that the only instance of the article's title in the literature seems to come from the cited Perelman article, published in the 14th of this month. It may therefore not be a suitable title, even if the content is acceptable. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

The term is unknown to Web of Science or Scopus. Materialscientist (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I published the article on the 14th, but I'm assuming that you're sayint that the source was also published on this date? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

1. Presently sexual anhedonia redirects to this article. I suggest this is backwards – the article should be at "sexual anhedonia" and "pleasure dissociative orgasm disorder" should be the redirect. This is not only because anhedonia is the natural parent article but also because some variant on sexual anhedonia is, I suspect, the common name for the condition.
2. The article needs a decent copy-edit, it is not main page ready IMO. For example, the sentence "There are a number of treatments available for those who suffer from this disorder, should it cause personnal distress."... leaving aside the spelling, this seriously minimises how distressing (and embarrassing) this condition can be. People fail to seek treatment for this condition out of embarrassment, not because they are not distrissed by it. Later, we have "Additionally, blood testing might help determine levels of hormones and other things in the bloodstream that might inhibit pleasure. Finally, treatment with drugs that increase dopamine, such as oxytocin, and other drugs."... the former sentence is poorly expressed and, I think, misleading; the latter sentence is not a sentence.
3. The article is obviously incomplete. One very major source of this condition is as a side effect of SSRIs and other anti-depressant medications, yet this is not even mentioned in the text.
4. There must be better references for this. How about:

• Comprehensive Textbook of Sexual Medicine
• A chapter on sexual anhedonia
• Kaplan & Sadock's concise textbook of clinical psychiatry uses the term orgasmic anhedonia
• Google books searches for anhedonia, sexual anhedonia, SSRI and anhedonia provide plenty of hits.

EdChem (talk) 11:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Working apparently simultaneously, Materialscientist has pulled it from Prep 4 and I have returned it to the discussion page. - Dravecky (talk) 12:00, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I have addresses some of the issues now, but I'll get back to it later on today. I'll have a friend look over the article later but I may be delayed in any action on this until at least the weekend. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

EdChem (talk) 08:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I have pretty much done all of the above except completing the side effects of the drugs part. The copy edit was performed last night and the better citations were added the night before. I'll search for better ones soon but I am quite against one of them above as it really diminished the causes of the disorder on those who have it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Please see my comment above about the sources. NW (Talk) 21:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I just removed the unreliable references. I'm sure there is something else someone wants so feel free to remind me if I forgot. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 19

Anne Sharp

• ... that Scottish coloratura soprano Anne Sharp performed in Britten's Albert Herring in both the premiere in 1948 and the first recording?

Created/expanded by Morag Kerr (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. However, some paragraphs lack inline citations. I also don't see the hook fact stated explicitly in the text, though that may be because I don't understand the terminology. I wonder what you think of this alt:
• ALT1: ... that even in her thirties, Scottish coloratura soprano Anne Sharp was able to pass as a teenager, performing the role of Emmie Spatchett in Albert Herring at the first Aldeburgh Festival? Yoninah (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Like it, thank you. I had looked for an online ref and found it for the recording, which refers to the premiere, but the ALT is supported by the pic, smile. It's the author's first article, as far as I know, let's try to help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
• Well, only now I realize something happened to the pic, removed "pictured". You saw it, though, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yesterday the image was removed from the article, so I removed it here. Glad you like the alt. However, the article still lacks inline citations on some paragraphs. Yoninah (talk) 10:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

To clarify (I didn't make this nomination, but fine), Anne Sharp played the smaller part of Cis in Albert Herring in the premiere, but switched to playing Emmie after only a few performances. She is Emmie in the recording. So it is correct to say she was in both the premiere and the recording (which was a live recording of a performance), but she had different roles. That recording has most of the original cast in it. Morag Kerr (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

About the photo. I do not understand why it was deleted. It is a photo which appeared in opera programmes - the little biographies of the cast they have at the back, which are accompanied by photos. I'm not even sure it's "non-free content", but I was trying to be as correct as possible by crediting the photographer. Morag Kerr (talk) 14:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'm going to go ahead and give a tentative AGF to Yoninah's ALT1 which is sourced to offline Cambridge companion. It would be nice to get some referencing Background and education and Marriage and later life to make this article even more Main Page ready but if a promoting admin wants to WP:IAR to get a new user their first DYK, everything else on this article checks out. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 23:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20

Grammy Award for Best Americana Album

• ... that American multi-instrumentalist Levon Helm won the first Grammy Award for Best Americana Album in 2010 for the album Electric Dirt?

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 19:59, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article falls very slightly short of the 1500 character requirement (I don't think the footnote can be counted as "readable prose"). decltype (talk) 14:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hmm, I must not understand the character count tool then, as I generated a count of 2,000 characters for the lead alone. --Another Believer _(Talk) 21:36, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Ahh, I don't know which tool you are using, but the discrepancy probably arises from the pull quote. To the best of my knowledge, those do not count as readable prose for the purposes of DYK. Could the article possibly be expanded a little bit? decltype (talk) 13:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK check gives 'Prose size (text only): 1522 characters (246 words) "readable prose size"', excluding the blockquote and footnotes. - PKM (talk) 01:12, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but that is including the Each year is linked to the article about the Grammy Awards held that year., which is technically a footnote. decltype (talk) 06:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. I respect if it is decided that the hook does not qualify to appear on the Main Page. However, I will not be adding additional characters to the article just for the sake of MP appearance. If exceptions can be made for newly-created lists just shy of the requirement (even though I think the quote is also relevant), it would be appreciated. If not, I understand. --Another Believer _(Talk) 05:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I expanded the article a little (by adding information that I would want to see in such an article), so it now meets the DYK length criteria. --Orlady (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

The hook needs an inline citation. Other than that, it looks good. --E♴ (talk) 05:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Thanks for the additions to the article, Orlady! --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I inserted an inline citation for the hook. I believe everything is good now. --Orlady (talk) 19:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm getting a Server Application Unavailable when checking the hook reference (FN#9) but the information is easy to find elsewhere on the Grammy website and with other online news article about the first award. Besides fixing that citation link, you may want to clarify some of the dating used in the article. The article uses the year that the award ceremony was held (such as 2010 for Electric Dirt's win, etc) but the Grammy page I linked to above and other sources refers to the "Year in Music" being honored, in this case 2009 when Electric Dirt and the other nominees' albums were released. Not a major issue but it can be a point of confusion when some is looking up the 2010 winner and get Mavis Staples, etc. Other than that, date and length check out fine. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 23:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21

While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within

• ... that Bruce Bawer's While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within has been described both as a "well written and well informed" and one that uses "wildly exaggerated statistics"?

• Reviewed: Lorene Cary
• Comment: Although the edit history looks like the article was created on March 5, it is not the case. The article was created on February 22, 2011 The history is misleading because the article was moved from my user space with the old history of absolutely different article I wrote there.

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment According to the article's history, you started working on it on February 21. User:Ironholds deleted the older revisions of your user subpage and subsequently restored your recent work. Is that right? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 12:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Yes, but I worked on it in my user space. It was moved to the main space on February 22, and it is considered the day of the creation of the article.--Mbz1 (talk) 13:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
    • I see. Ironholds deleted the article after you moved it to the main space, and he restored 44 revisions going back to February 21 (the beginning of your work on this topic). Both the dates are OK for the DYK requirements and your nomination can be simply moved to February 21. Is the date (February 22) important for you? Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• • • • Actually Ironholds by my request moved the article from my user space to main space after he did some work on it in my user space. The date (February 22) is very important for me for personal reasons, but of course this importance has nothing to do with DYK nomination, and that's why I will move the nomination to February 21 as you requested. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
    • In any case, it is a good, balanced and well written piece of information and a very interesting article. I checked both the reviews cited in the hook, the online version of the article published by the Economist is available here. Thanks for your work, Mbz. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think this one needs some work. The "critical reception" section is all over the shop and needs a cleanup. The "Summary" section is also not much of a summary. On topics as sensitive as this, we need to get things right. Gatoclass (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

What exactly do you suggest to change? I think the article presents various contrasting opinions and reviews regarding this sensitive topic/book. It is a new work and it isn't perfect, but I can't find any significant bias or imbalance in the article. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 21:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Besides positive and negative reviews are mixed in the original sources, and it is all, but impossible to separate those, and the article was edited by the users with a different backgrounds.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Just looking at one source, the Boston Globe review as currently treated in the article seems to be mis-represented; the quote used is the reviewer's summary of Part I of the book. The reviewer discusses Part II separately and with much stronger criticism. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC) Now expanded to cover this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:40, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm currently working on this article. I will leave a note here when I'm done. Gatoclass (talk) 04:51, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

With respect, Gatoclass, your objections to this article don't seem to be grounded in the DYK criteria. I'm going to mark this as . If there are issues with the article's suitability for DYK, then let's discuss them on the talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought I'd made myself clear, but apparently not. I have NPOV concerns about this article. That is most certainly a "DYK criteria", in fact it's our most important. I have requested some time to NPOV this article, I'll try to get that done in the next day or two. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 04:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 22

Merrythought

• ... that Merrythought is the last remaining teddy bear manufacturer (product pictured) in the United Kingdom?

5x expanded by Dpaajones (talk) and Simply south (talk). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 14:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Alt 1... that teddy bear manufacturer Merrythought produced Mr Whoppit, the mascot for Donald Campbell's land speed and water speed world record attempts?

Alt 2... that the English teddy bear company Merrythought has been selected to produce the official teddy bears of the London 2012 Olympic games?

• 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook refs verified. I prefer the first hook for its simple punch, but I leave it to the administrator to decide. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 01:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Heh, you beat me to it. But I agree, both with the verification and with the preference for the first hook. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the reviews and for doing the references properly! Is the proposed image good to go too? Dpaajones (talk) 10:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The image is OK, but it's too small and detailed to be seen in a thumbnail image on the Main Page. I think the image of the teddy bear would work better in this case. Yoninah (talk) 11:46, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• ... that Merrythought is the last remaining teddy bear (example pictured) manufacturer in the United Kingdom? 5x expanded by Dpaajones (talk) and Simply south (talk). Nominated by Simply south (talk) at 14:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Is that better? Simply south...... 12:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It is a good photo, but I'm just wondering if there's an issue with using it on the Wikipedia homepage as it comes from flickr? (There probably isn't - but I'm sure someone will have a more definite answer.) David (talk) 13:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, would "...last remaining teddy bear manufacturer (product pictured) in the..." be allowed/is better? David (talk) 14:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I cleaned up the nomination by replacing the image of the shop with the image of the teddy bear. The image of the shop was from Geograph.co.uk; is that any better than flicker? Yoninah (talk) 16:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, the geograph image of the shop is completely free to use, whilst the flickr photo of the bear has some reservations. Check their wikimedia files for the full licensing details. David (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I have just checked through the DYK archives and flickr photos with the same licensing have been on the DYK homepage portal. So the teddy bear photo I think is good to go. David (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

How about these images?

or

Simply south...... 18:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The shuttered factory is kind of depressing and doesn't reflect the hook. I still think the teddy bear image is best for a thumbnail image. Yoninah (talk) 19:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Neither are particularly clear at that size and the shop photo is better than them. I suggest we stick with the teddy bear. David (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. I recommend the teddy photo. It's perfectly fine that the photo is from Flickr. It is also, in fact, more freely licensed (CC-BY) than Wikipedia's default license of CC-BY-SA. --KFP (contact | edits) 22:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I also support the Teddy Bear photo. It is has a perfectly valid and free Commons license. We've never had a problem before with a freely licensed Flickr image uploaded to Commons. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 23:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I'll be serious. Photos which seem to have been nominated by me in the past seem to have only been put on the Main Page if they were created by the user writing the article. Are there any examples of photos from Geograph\flickr\related that have been put on the main page in the past year? Simply south...... 23:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Commons photos that are created by someone else are used all the time on the main page. One example, I personally know about is the image from Fer that was on the main page [in February. I wrote the article but the image was a taken by a de.wiki user and transferred to Commons. It really doesn't matter who created them as long as they are freely licensed and that license is appropriately documented. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 00:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Simply south...... 00:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

As I wrote earlier in this discussion (which has gone on long enough - I hope it's not holding up the article's inclusion on the DYK section of the homepage!) I did a quick check and flickr photos with the same license have been used on the homepage (in the DYK section). I think we're also agreed that the teddy bear photo is better than the shop photo and the other article photos. David (talk) 00:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

ProtectMarriage.com

• ... that the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign was "the single largest, most powerful grassroots movement in the history of American ballot initiative campaigns" according to Ron Prentice of ProtectMarriage.com?

Created by Lionelt (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Lionelt (talk) at 19:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed George C. Kimble Lionel (talk) 19:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Article is classified as a stub on its talk page... must be Start class or better for DYK. The last paragraph is solely about Proposition 8, not about the organization. Removing it would bring the article down to about 1700 characters; not too short to disqualify the article for DYK. Binksternet (talk) 01:54, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

It was assessed right after I created it. It looked like this, and only had primary sources. Since then I've expanded it and added 10 independent sources. Among other things it satisfies "fundamental content policies such as notability" and is in no "danger of being speedily deleted." It is now properly a Start class. WP:WikiProject_Council/Assessment_FAQ#Quality_scale Lionel (talk) 02:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook is currently a tad over the 200 bytes at 207. Can we trim it down with an Alt? Agne^Cheese/^Wine 02:28, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I know the page itself has to do with a controversial topic, but I think we can do with a more neutral hook than that. We can provide information about the group's influence without hijacking DYK to praise their campaign. Something like "ProtectMarriage.com spearheaded the Yes on 8 ballot initiative that removed the right of same-sex couples to marry in California"? Or "...spearheaded the $Xmillion Yes on 8 campaign..."? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Good point. How different is this from a company declaring their product to be "the best ever", etc? Agne^Cheese/^Wine 04:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Lionelt, can you put together one or more ALT hooks with somewhat less promotional tone? The Prop 8 wikilink should be pipe linked to its full version: California Proposition 8 (2008). Binksternet (talk) 02:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• Also, the new article was a total orphan until I wikilinked it at the Prop 8 page. It needs two further links in other articles to keep it from being tagged as an orphan. Article has been wikilinked in a handful of other articles—no longer an orphan. Binksternet (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any neutral and really useful message in the hooks or the article yet. A technical note is that refs need to be reformatted (they are either bare urls or title-only, which is not good for news pages). Materialscientist (talk) 04:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I should remove myself as reviewer—I have more than doubled the article's text, including a history section and a description of the group's role in court cases. Binksternet (talk) 21:19, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the political advocacy coalition ProtectMarriage.com was formed in 2005 from the California-based Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that ProtectMarriage.com formed the defense in the California lawsuit Perry v. Schwarzenegger? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
• ALT3: ... that ProtectMarriage.com was formed to pass California Proposition 8, a voter initiative measure? Binksternet (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I think the new hooks are better, but curiously lacking in description of any of these laws or cases. Is there a way to include a description of Prop 22, Prop 8, or Perry v. Schwarzenegger without going over the length limit? Or at the very least we should try and include information on the group's aim, ie. opposing same-sex marriage. (Also, we don't have an article on the Prop 22 LDEF, so perhaps Prop 22 should be wikilinked.) Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The new hooks are definitely better but are a little unclear. Somewhere Same-sex marriage should be linked and adding the phrase "opposition to same-sex marriage" to any of the hooks only adds 31 bytes. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 01:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT4: ... that the political advocacy coalition ProtectMarriage.com was formed in 2005 to eliminate the possibility of same-sex marriage in the California Constitution? Binksternet (talk) 01:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

That's slightly inaccurate..."possibility" implies that same-sex marriages were never legal, like in other states. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:26, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think a slight modification of ALT3 would be the way to go. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 02:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT5: ... that ProtectMarriage.com was formed to pass California Proposition 8, a voter initiative against same-sex marriage?

That's good, very straightforward (not to pun...) Binksternet (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

ALT5 doesn't encompass the fact that the amendment also prohibited polygamy. The All of the ALTs are somewhat boring: "make it hooky... short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article." If I get 5000 views I get a banana sundae: work with me people. What about:

• ALT6: ... that ProtectMarriage.com gathered 1,120,801 signatures and spent 40 million dollars to pass California Proposition 8? Lionel (talk) 02:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I don't think anyone really believes that polygamy was an issue in the vote. May I suggest adding "a referendum against same-sex marriage" or "which removed the right of same-sex couples to marry" to the end of your hook, per my above recommendation that we provide context? Does that make it too long? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I believe that ALT6 is inaccurate. The source says that $40 million was raised by all proponents, not by this group alone.[1]   Will Beback  talk  02:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing about polygamy in the article, so its absence from the hook is appropriate. Californians were not concerned about polygamy... Neither Prop 22 nor Prop 8 arguments touched upon it. The argument about polygamy is a red herring. Binksternet (talk) 16:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Binksternet. Polygamy is a red herring and is not needed in the article. The popular conception of Prop 8 (and the one presented by the sources and the article) is about same-sex marriage. Considering the hot button issue that it is, I don't think we'll be in need of page clicks for the hook if Alt5 is used. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 23:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Anybody else for ALT 5? Binksternet (talk) 09:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Heinrich-Heine-Straße (Berlin U-Bahn)

• ... that the Heinrich-Heine-Straße U-Bahn station in Berlin is a protected architectural landmark because its years as a ghost station preserved it almost unchanged?

• ALT1:... that the unusual narrowness of the Neanderstraße meant that Berlin U-Bahn stations built under it in the 1920s, such as Heinrich-Heine-Straße, were the first to have entrances built into buildings?

5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 22:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed Richard Watson (singer): diff --Yngvadottir (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• The hook fact is not cited as such, & the first (and better) hook needs a rewrite - you can't use "landmark" as a verb. The lead could clarify the period it has been in use too. Johnbod (talk) 23:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps an American usage has crept in with that use of "landmarked"; "is preserved as an architectural landmark" might make the hook too long? And the German declaration uses the same word. Maybe "is a protected structure"? I'm not quite sure what you mean about the lack of referencing for the hook: the first hook is referenced to ref. 3 (at the end of that sentence, at the end of the article), which is the landmark listing, and the same ref is also used for the landmarking of the building the remaining original entrance is in. Within that reference, the key sentence is, at the end of the listing: Die mit dem Mauerbau zwischen 1961 und 1990 geschlossene Station beeindruckt durch die Fülle der überlieferten Ausstattungsdetails, zu denen neben den drei Bahnsteighäuschen auch die Richtungsanzeiger, Stationsschilder, hölzernen Reklametafeln und die schmiedeeisernen Absperrgitter der Ausgänge gehören. ALT1 has references 5 and 6. - I don't believe the lead para needs to state when the station was built, since that's right there in the next sentence following.--Yngvadottir (talk) 01:40, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I am a native speaker of American English. I don't consider "landmark - landmarked - landmarking" to be a valid verb. --Orlady (talk) 00:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, changed it in the hook and the article.--Yngvadottir (talk) 02:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Like Johnbod, I like the first hook better, but unfortunately it isn't explicitly supported by the article. It's very reasonable to think that years as a ghost station helped to preserve its architectural integrity, but (this is based solely on my reading of the German sources -- I easily may have missed something) I did not see that stated explicitly in any of the cited sources. Also, I did not see an indication in the article that the station owes its landmark status to its years as a ghost station. It's an interesting topic -- it's just a matter of creating a good hook that is clearly supported by the sources. --Orlady (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, what the landmark documentation actually says is that it's remarkable in the degree of preservation because of the almost 30 years as a ghost station - I quoted the relevant bit above. Implicit is that that's why they made it a protected landmark (and the otherwise undistinguished building because it preserves the remaining in-building entrance), but they don't come right out and say "protected because . . ." That's why I provided ALT1; I'd say go with that. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've done a more careful translation of reference 3, and my initial impression is not changed. The source states that the station was closed for nearly 30 years and it says that it is impressive for the many original features that are preserved in it, but it never indicates a cause-and-effect relationship. Accordingly, I suggest revising the original hook to state the facts without any indication of causation:

• ALT2 ... that the Heinrich-Heine-Straße U-Bahn station in Berlin, opened in 1928, was a ghost station for nearly three decades and retains much of its original appearance? --Orlady (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would work too - up to you whether you prefer that or ALT1. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Let's go with ALT2 then. All ok. Johnbod (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

John M. Bacon

• ... that after a skirmish with the Pillager Band of Chippewa Indians at the Battle of Sugar Point (1898), Brig. gen. John M. Bacon was reported killed, with a hundred of his men?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• I'll review something later today, or maybe tomorrow. If approved, I'd like this held for Bacon Day, 1 March--bacon keeps very well. Also, if any of you (Bushranger, maybe?) who write regularly on military matters can have a look at the article--I'm not familiar with military topics and can use all the help I can get. Thanks in advance, Drmies (talk) 22:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reading the hook and the article, I was confused about whether or not the men were killed. After investigating the topic, I concluded that the most interesting thing about the article topic is that it was widely reported that Bacon and 100 men had been massacred by the Indians, when in fact only a few men were killed (not including Bacon)--and he didn't have as many as 100 men in the first place. --Orlady (talk) 00:40, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Orlady, I had another hook and then edited it--User:Mandarax implied you might like it better: "... that General John M. Bacon of the 3rd US Infantry regiment was incorrectly reported killed with a hundred of his men after the 1898 Battle of Sugar Point?". Drmies (talk) 16:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, I like that better. :-) I can't check sourcing right now, though. --Orlady (talk) 18:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 23

Colin Hatch

• ... that convicted murderer Colin Hatch on 22 February 2011 died in an incident at Full Sutton prison in the East Riding of Yorkshire?

--BabbaQ (talk) 22:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, history and references verified. However, this is a dull hook. People, notable or not, get killed in prison all the time (see Larry Davis, for instance). Maybe we could research this more and find a better one? Daniel Case (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

I think I stay with that hook if no one else gives a better suggestion. Thanks for the review.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Article is at AFD. Yoninah (talk) 23:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Bicycle helmet laws

• ... that thirteen U.S. states have no state or local bicycle helmet laws at all?

Created by Suzanne10 (talk). Nominated by Mike Christie (talk) at 02:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I haven't reviewed another nom as I haven't nominated five DYKs; I may review one later but wanted to get this nom in first. Mike Christie (talk – library) 02:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Not to worry -- that requirement is only for people who nominate their own articles. It doesn't apply to nominations of other people's articles. :-) --Orlady (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
• Regarding the nominated article, the article looks like a fine contribution, but it sports a "globalize" template right now, and in reviewing the article I had some other concerns.

• Starting with the lead, I think the statement "The majority of states in the U.S. have laws requiring children under the age of sixteen to wear helmets" is inaccurate, since the article indicates that fewer than half of the states have such laws, although there are local laws in some of the states. That should be revised to state that (for example) 22 U.S. states have these laws and some municipalities and counties in other states also have them.

  Another editor has fixed this. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

  Excellent phrasing, now used. Thanks! NebY (talk) 15:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• I think that the article has too many direct quotations when the quoted content is simply a statement of a fact. For example, it should be able to present the hook fact without surrounding it with quotation marks.

  I've slightly rephrased that sentence though much of it is a list so can't really be rephrased. I have proposed an alternate hook below based on the new version of the sentence. I'll suggest to the primary author that she rephrase some of the other quotes too. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• The first sentence under "Facts" is unsourced and looks like an opinion.

  I've cut it; I don't think it was necessary. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

As for that "globalize" template, I've already found two references about British Columbia's helmet law. I bet there are others... --Orlady (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC) Or the article could be retitled "Bicycle helmet laws in the United States." --Orlady (talk) 03:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

I'll go see if I can fix these points; obviously your comments are going to improve the article. However, can you tell me for future reference if nominated DYK has to also meet some minimum quality standards that I should be aware of? I thought the only requirements were a certain length and that the hook should be supported with an inline reference. Is there anything else that needs to be done -- e.g. do tags such as the globalize tag mean it can't be supported? Or is it just that the higher quality an article is, the more likely it is to get support? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

In response to your "future reference" question, see Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules#Other additional rules for the article. While there's no expectation that articles featured in DYK be "perfect," there's a general expectation that they should not have obvious problems. That section of the "additional rules" identifies several specific items that reviewers look for, but there's a tendency to view those rules a bit broadly. It's common for reviewers here to identify concerns with a nominated article -- and often (as in this case) to work with the creator(s) and nominator(s) to resolve those concerns. It is very rare for the kinds of concerns I identified to become a basis for totally rejecting a nomination; instead they usually lead to improving the article before its DYK hook reaches the main page. --Orlady (talk) 16:14, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

That sounds more than fair. Please let me know of anything other changes that would be useful to make to the article. I should add that since I posted here, two editors have made a great many improvements to the article. Mike Christie (talk – library) 16:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... there are 39 U.S. states that have no state-wide bicycle helmet laws?" Mike Christie (talk – library) 14:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually the source gives 21 states with state-wide laws and there are 50 states in the Union. If I've got my arithmetic right that leaves 29 without and I have edited the article to conform to the following suggestion:

• ALT2: "... there are 29 U.S. states that have no state-wide bicycle helmet laws?" Richard Keatinge (talk) 17:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

  Oops. Yes, my bad arithmetic. Thanks for fixing that. Mike Christie (talk – library) 13:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

William Martin (naturalist)

• ... that William Martin's Petrificata derbiensia, the first scientific study of fossils in English (see illustration), said that his fossils were not the remains of small crocodile tails?

• Comment: Grammy Award for Best Female Rap Solo Performance reviewed Victuallers (talk) 16:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

5x expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article doesn't actually say this. It says that the uncles and cousins thought that they were tails, but not that he said the remains were not tails. — KV5 • Talk • 02:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I have added a quote to the ref. Martin says what each fossil is - whether it is considered to be grass, vegetable or a shell - he notes that others used to say they were crocodile tails - Do you think we need to change the hook? Victuallers (talk) 17:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Now looks just fine. — KV5 • Talk • 12:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I pulled this out of the prep area, as I had concerns about the hook. First off, it is correct that Paleontology is the "scientific study of fossils," but it's misleading to call his monograph "a paleontology," as the hook implies it is. His use of a Linnaen-style species name (Petrificata derbiensia) for his book title makes the hook confusing. The article also is a bit confusing. As a reader, I'd like to know whether it was horn corals (as in the image) that people thought were crocodile tails, or some other fossil.
This is a good topic; it's just that the hook needs some more work, IMHO. --Orlady (talk) 18:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Environmental issues in Russia

• ... that among Russia's many environmental issues is water pollution, which affects 75% of the country's surface water?

Created by Slon02 (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 02:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed - suggested reword, "... that a top environmental issue in Russia is water pollution, affecting 75% of the country's surface water?" CycloneGU (talk) 07:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Or "... that water pollution, which affects 75% of the country's surface water, is a major environmental issue in Russia"? Ericoides (talk) 19:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Both of these hooks are better than my original one. Admin, when you move this to the queue, be sure to replace the DYK nom template that links to me with a template that links to Ericoides or CycloneGU. Nyttend (talk) 20:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe you still get credited, we just try to help with better rewordings. =) CycloneGU (talk) 05:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, Volume 5

• ... that Glee: The Music, Volume 5 includes two original songs written specifically for the series?

Created by CycloneGU (talk). Self nom at 07:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• This is being proposed for inclusion on March 8, when the soundtrack comes out. The article itself will get significant expansion up to March 8 and beyond, when reception is covered. This can be reworded if need be, and I'll happily participate in that process to find a better wording. Please keep in mind the March 8 proposed inclusion when considering article length and observe future work on the article before dismissing it. CycloneGU (talk) 07:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• It's more appropriately sized now. Awaiting review and possible ALTs. CycloneGU (talk) 05:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I have noticed a holding area for March 8 as International Women's Day and several holding requests for that. If it turns out March 8 is impossible, it might be possible to try for March 15 as that is the air date of the episode using the songs I refer to in the hook. In such a case, the hook would need rewriting to refer to "tonight's episode of Glee". CycloneGU (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Regardless of the date, this is good to go. The length, refs and date (of creation) are all good.--E♴ (talk) 00:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24

George Washington Harris

• ... that humorist George Washington Harris's comic character Sut Lovingood, who figured in tales attacking Abraham Lincoln and other politicians, has been described as "Huck Finn on amphetamines"?

5x expanded by Bms4880 (talk). Nominated by Orlady (talk) at 16:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length and hook references all look fine. However, since the article was expanded on February 24 and nominated on March 2, I'm afraid it fails the "five day" rule, unless I'm missing something here. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 01:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Um... See item D9 at Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules -- and consider that we are currently experiencing a hook shortage. --Orlady (talk) 01:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• All right, I guess it squeaks through by SST (Swahili Standard Time). :) Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Commission for Polish Relief

• ... that Commission for Polish Relief, providing food and medical supplies for occupied Poland during WWII, was eventually shut down due to the British naval blockade?

Created by Stor stark7 (talk), Nick-D (talk), MyMoloboaccount (talk), and Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 01:28, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Dates and lengths are fine, but there seems to be some controversy (visible on the article talk page and in inline tags in the article) over the substance of the article. Do all of the major contributors to the article (the 4 named here plus Woogie10w) now agree on the hook fact and the main points of the article, or is there ongoing contention? --Orlady (talk) 20:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• The tags in the article, as far as I can tell, are only about page number requests. I don't think there is any disagreement on the hook; the talk discussion is about Churchill's role - something that the hook does not mention at all. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 20:47, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for explaining the situation, Piotrus. I've further investigated the sourcing for the article and the hook. From the online sources and the article itself, it appears that aid was not actually shut down due to the British blockade. The British blockade in 1940 significantly reduced the committee's ability to operate, but it was not completely shut down until December 1941, when Germany declared war against the United States. One thought for an alternative hook (one that I think is supported):

• ALT1... that the Commission for Polish Relief continued providing limited food and medical supplies to occupied Poland until late 1941, in spite of Britain's 1940 blockade of shipments to Nazi occupied Europe? --Orlady (talk) 22:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Dayr al-Shaykh

• ... that the shrine of a famous medieval shaykh in the currently depopulated village of Dayr al-Shaykh became a place of pilgrimage for locals following his death in the 13th-century?

5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk), Huldra (talk), Tiamut (talk), and Zero0000 (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Removed Zero0000 and Tiamut from credits - sorry, don't see their recent contribution to this article. Materialscientist (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good article with a small POV problem, will be happy to promote it, when the issue is resolved. Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I responded to your concern at the talk page. I don't believe there's really a POV problem. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Beta (plasma physics)

• ... while exploring Beta in tokamak fusion power designs, studies suggested they would never be able to build a practical reactor?

5x expanded by User:Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Donald S. Sanford below.

• Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments: Is the hook too technical for general readers of MainPage? Who's Troyon? (How about "the exploration of..." instead?) --PFHLai (talk) 22:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Works for me, editing... Maury Markowitz (talk)

• The hook is incredibly dense, and will probably not attract any clicks. The article is equally difficult to understand, and lacks inline citations on many paragraphs. The best line for a hook --Beta can be thought of as a ratio of "money in" to "money out" for a nuclear reactor. -- isn't even sourced. Yoninah (talk) 01:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article is seriously deficient in the sourcing department. --Orlady (talk) 23:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you be more specific? Is the hook not cited? Anything else? Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• The last 3 paragraphs of the article appear to be well-supported with reference citations, but the rest of the article does not. For example, in the two-paragraph "Fusion basics" section, there is only one inline citation, which appears to be reference support only for the statement "In the case of the D-T mixture, rapid fusion will occur when the gas is heated to about 100 million degrees." There are no sources cited in the 2-paragraph "Confinement" section. The only source cited under "MCF approach" (another 2-paragraph section) appears to be reference support only for the first 3 sentences of the second-paragraph. In the "Beta" section there are reference citations for the equations, attributions of who determined what when, and some other details, but there are several key statements whose sources cannot be determined. --Orlady (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Please see Rule D2: There should be at least one inline citation per paragraph, and if the material is sourced to different references, those should be included after each statement or explanation. Yoninah (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

In the interests of avoiding another multi-week inconclusive fight in the talk pages, I will withdraw this entry if you explicitly demand it. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Is it so hard to reference what you wrote? At any time, the article will be subject to a "cite more sources" tag under Wikipedia rules. Yoninah (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thunderbolt (interface)

• ... that Intel's newly released Thunderbolt interface uses Apple's Mini DisplayPort connectors to support both data and displays at the same time?

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewd article below Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Maury Markowitz is referring to Seara (newspaper). I'm just specifying this because the order in the queue may shift (Seara may get picked up before Thunderbolt), and the meaning of "article below" will hence be lost. Dahn (talk) 11:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Maury, are you the IP user who did this expansion on February 24? (Just verifying; I would guess so, because your next edit was 8 minutes later). Yoninah (talk) 15:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't know! The edit history is all screwed up because of multiple moves, and now I'm totally confused myself. The "original article" that I (and many others, this was seriously collaborative) started expanding can be found here, but how that relates to the existing article, or the previously-existing Light Peak one, is making my brain hurt! Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Seara (newspaper)

• ... that, in its Great-War-era campaign against Romania's alliance with the Entente Powers, Seara newspaper employed conservatives, socialists and anarchists as contributors?

• Reviewed: Zayd Mutee' Dammaj

Created by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 13:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• This is a great article! Hook is well supported. However, I'm not sure "1910s" means anything to the average reader; perhaps "Great War-era" might be suitable replacement? Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:01, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I was thinking of something along the lines of "World War I" myself, but wanted to avoid the impression that this happened as Romania was fighting in the war, when in fact it came during the time when Romania was neutral - i.e. these guys weren't treasonous, they were just part of an open debate. But maybe I'm being too cautious, in which case please feel free to tweak the hook. Dahn (talk) 14:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I see what you mean, but I think "war era" should be OK - I think it will lead to less confusion than "1910s", which I read to be "1910" and then went hunting for the ref. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay then, tweaked accordingly. Dahn (talk) 14:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Of course its a damn good article, Dahn the guru of Romanian literature wrote it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

My good doctor, you're too kind. Dahn (talk) 22:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• I think the hyphenated term is awkward in the hook, and the Great War is not mentioned anywhere in the article. How about:
• ALT1: ... that, in its campaign against Romania's alliance with the Entente Powers in 1914–1916, the Seara newspaper employed conservatives, socialists and anarchists as contributors? Yoninah (talk) 15:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I do like this ALT2. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I must say I don't like Easter egg links, particularly when they redirect from a country's name. What's more, the new hook gives the definite impression that Romania was already allied with the Entente in 1914-16, when it was only engaged in secret talks. Incidentally, "Great War" is mentioned in the article, as "World War I" - I went with Maury's choice of words, for variety and "local flavor". How about:

ALT2: ... that, in its campaign against a Romanian World War I alliance with the Entente Powers, the newspaper Seara employed conservatives, socialists and anarchists as contributors?

As my disclaimer, please allow me to note that English is not my first language, and I've been improvising when it comes to the WWI political idiom in my hook suggestions above. Any further tweaking is welcome, but please consider my point about the Eastern egg links. Dahn (talk) 16:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, Dahn, that's a great solution. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. I made it "the newspaper Seara". ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Adoption of Ala'a Eddeen

• ... that an American soldier, who was deployed to Iraq, adopted an Iraqi boy who could not walk because of cerebral palsy?

• Reviewed: Bicycle Race

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 16:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

While the date, length, and sources check out, the article does not sound very encyclopedic. It sounds more like a newspaper article. I think another opinion is needed before it's submitted to the queue. Also, I removed a comma after "boy". Ruby2010 talk 03:00, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, about coma it could be either way I believe. About the article being "not very encyclopedic", do you have any particular suggestions? This is a notable story that was reported in many sources, and IMO should be represented on Wikipedia also. I am sure wikipedia have many other articles that as you say "sound more like a newspaper articles". If you believe the article to be not encyclopedic, you may nominate it on deletion, but as long as it stays on wikipedia there's no valid reason to prevent it promotion for DYK.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

I did, article at AfD. Yazan (talk) 05:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation

• ... that a First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation has to be nominated by the Prime Minister and later appointed by the President to take office?

Created by TIAYN (talk) 10:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Black Thunder (chocolate bar) --TIAYN (talk) 10:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• AGF on foreign language sources, but the prose size is barely 268 chars, it needs to be at least 1500. Yazan (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Zayd Mutee' Dammaj

• ... that Zayd Mutee' Dammaj was a Yemeni politician and writer whose 1984 novel The Hostage was selected by the Arab Writers Union as one of the 100 best Arabic novels of the 20th century?

created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom on 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• The source for the hook is a blog, which puts a strain on WP:RS. I'm sure an info of this magnitude can be referred to better sources, both Anglophone and Arabophone. Dahn (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Disi Water Conveyance Project

• ... that due to the Disi Water Conveyance Project currently under construction, citizens of Amman, Jordan may soon be drinking extremely radioactive water?

• Reviewed: Jeff Krogh ([2])

Created by E2eamon (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• This doesn't seem very NPOV based on the article. The article cites one study that tested existing wells in the aquifer, but I'm not seeing citations that describe tests of the actual water to be delivered by the project. Maybe an alternate hook that just says they are building this massive project and there are concerns about radioactivity in the aquifer? Zachlipton (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I agree. I have seen some somewhat misleading hooks on DYK before (things that make puns, etc), and thought that this would be acceptable because, technically, it does say that they "may be drinking" radioactive water. If, however, there are concerns, I understand, and thus propose an alternate. --E♴ (talk) 23:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that there are concerns about radioactive water in the aquifer supplying the Disi Water Conveyance Project?

Articles created/expanded on February 25

Sydenham Heritage Church

• ... that the Sydenham Heritage Church (pictured), twice threatened by demolition since 1997, was purchased by a community trust for its preservation?

• ALT1:... that the Sydenham Heritage Church (pictured), twice threatened by demolition since 1997, was demolished after the 2011 Christchurch earthquake?
• Reviewed: Architonnerre (on 15 Feb)
• Comment: Another listed heritage building lost in the 22 Feb 2011 earthquake. ALT1 is more interesting, but at this point, I haven't been able to track down a reference for the demolition (when it's not worth reporting that a category II heritage building has been lost, you get a sense of the scale of the destruction). There's tons of photos of this on Twitter, Facebook and Flickr, but technically speaking that doesn't qualify as a reference. There's also a demolition photo in the article. I leave it to others to decide.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Ibrahim Mirza

• ... that after Prince Ibrahim Mirza was killed on the orders of his brother-in-law, Shah Ismail II of Persia, his wife destroyed his Persian miniatures by washing them in water (detail from survivor pictured)?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Heinrich-Heine-Straße (Berlin U-Bahn) Johnbod (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 15:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Octavius Wigram

• ... that Octavius Wigram (pictured) was guarding a door of Westminster Abbey at the coronation of George IV when the Queen was turned away?

• Reviewed: Český Šternberk Castle ([3])

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 10:51, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Offline line source accepted in good faith. Nice work Mr. Drax, good to go!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Durham Street Methodist Church

• ... that the Durham Street Methodist Church (pictured), destroyed in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, was the first stone church in Canterbury, New Zealand?

• Reviewed: Daimler Reitwagen (on 12 Feb)
• Comment: Another one of the Category I heritage buildings lost in Christchurch; sad writing these articles. Thanks to Melburnian for getting the stub going.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:15, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:23, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

George James Bruere

• ... that the House of Assembly of Bermuda appointed members to complain to King George III of the "tyranny and oppression" of Governor George James Bruere (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Kathleen, Duchess of Newcastle

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• The article gives no reason why the Assembly would complain about Bruere's "tyanny and oppression" other than his complaint about the laxity of their supervision of slaves. A serious problem is that there are sentences (not quotes) taken from sources that are currently under copyright with little or no paraphrasing. For example, the article says, "Bermuda tried to bargain with salt, and the American colonies asked for gunpowder," while the website at [4] says, "When Bermuda tried to bargain with salt, the American colonies refused and requested gunpowder instead." Again, the article says, "Bruere was shocked by the leniency many owners showed towards their slaves," while the cited source, Bernhard 1999, says, "... Bruere ... was shocked by the leniency many masters exhibited towards their slaves." -- Donald Albury 10:53, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I do not agree that the article gives no reason why the Assembly would complain about Bruere. See in particular the quotation from Sir John Kaye: "Of this Governor Bruere the colonial annalists relate that he was a man of an irascible temper and overbearing disposition, living and ruling in a perpetual state of antagonism with the Assembly and the People." I have rewritten the sentences complained of. Moonraker2 (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Ndumbe Lobe Bell, Jantzen & Thormählen

• ... that King Ndumbe Lobe Bell (pictured) of the Duala assigned his sovereign rights to the trading firm of Jantzen & Thormählen in 1884?

• Reviewed: Gross Barmen, Carl Hugo Hahn, Franz Heinrich Kleinschmidt
• Comment: Reviewed articles moved to the queue before this was submitted.

Created by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length of both articles and hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings

• ... that the Canterbury Provincial Council Buildings (pictured), substantially damaged in the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, contain a building that is regarded as Benjamin Mountfort's most impressive achievement?

• Reviewed: MXR Dyna Comp (diff)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• I've found a photo of the Stone Chamber itself, which is the "most impressive achievement" referred to in the hook. I've added it here, but note that I've put a rename request on the file (to File:Canterbury Provincial Council Stone Chamber.jpg), as 'Church' is wrong (renaming has been done already). Schwede66 21:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Transmission Electron Microscopy DNA Sequencing

• ... that transmission electron microscopy DNA sequencing is a promising new technology which allows sequencing of individual DNA molecules?

Created by Jmgrants (talk). Nominated by Jayron32 (talk) at 01:57, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

• Provisional - useful article, maybe somewhat overpromoting the involved companies and projects, but this is a small part which can be brushed up and is not that bad for this science area. I've tweaked the hook. This image won't do in 100x100px. Actual electron microscopy image of DNA would be nice. Materialscientist (talk) 11:49, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on February 26

G. Topham Forrest, Ossulston Estate

• ... that G. Topham Forrest used a plain neo-Georgian style for most 1920s and 1930s London County Council housing estates, but at Ossulston used a modernist style influenced by Viennese workers’ housing?

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Richard Knill Freeman

• ... that Richard Knill Freeman who designed Derby Museum also designed a church in Moscow in the 1880s?

Created by Andrew Dalby (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 18:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Muriel a oranžová smrt

• ... that the Czech comic album Muriel a oranžová smrt, whose main theme is an invasion of monsters from the Orange Planet, reacted to the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968?

• Reviewed: Hikmat Abu Zaid

Created by Vejvančický (talk), Haploidavey (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Hook checks out and is cited, article looks good. I also like it as a wildly underrepresented topic. Resolute 04:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Comment The hook reads too insipid and underwhelming. Is it possible to furnish it with an interesting fact, like exactly how the Czech comic album reacted to the Warsaw pact? Or did it applaud the invasion? :) Cinosaur (talk) 07:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Better? --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

How about this:

• ALT1 ... that the Czech comic album Muriel a oranžová smrt's invasion of monsters from the Orange Planet was a satiric response to the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968?

The problem with this wording, however, is that, albeit much more catchy, the claim is supported too loosely by the article's inline citations. Is there a way to slightly reword the article to make this satiric parallel (the Orange planet monsters = Warsaw bloc invaders) more prominent and directly supported by inline citations right after the statement? Sorry for nitpicking, but I am trying to go by the rules. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions, Cinosaur. I'm still working (in collaboration with another editor) on improving the article (see Talk:Muriel_a_oranžová_smrt#Prose_copy-edit), and I somewhat neglected this nomination :) In any case, the alt hook is verifiable. Most of the sources cited in the article emphasize the inspiration by the Warsaw Pact invasion, and this article says: Jen politický sebevrah by za Husákovy normalizace povolil komiks, jehož hlavním tématem je invaze zrůd z oranžové planety. (loosely translated: “Only a political suicide would approve publishing of a comic book whose main theme is an invasion of monsters from the Orange Planet, during the period of Husakian "normalization"” (the period that came after the Warsaw bloc invasion)). Of course, we could find a better hook or reword the current one, but the content of the hook and of the article is supported by reliable sources. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 14:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Blake Geoffrion

• ... that upon making his National Hockey League debut, Blake Geoffrion became the first fourth generation player after his father Dan, grandfather Bernie and great-grandfather Howie Morenz?

5x expanded by Resolute (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

reviewed: Muriel a oranžová smrt

Hook checks out but the article is not 5x expanded. List doesnt count.Thelmadatter (talk) 19:37, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Emilia Carr

• ... that Emilia Carr, a mother of four, is presently one of two women on death row in Florida?

Created by BabbaQ (talk), KimChee (talk). Nominated by KimChee (talk) at 11:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Pipe Dream (musical) [5]. Please note that the article is presently under an AfD which first needs to be resolved, but I am nominating it now before the window to do so closes. KimChee (talk) 12:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Campinas

• ... that the Metropolitan Cathedral of Campinas (original name Catedral Metropolitana Nossa Senhora da Conceição) located in Campinas, built between 1807 and 1883 and also opened in 1883, is considered the building as the world's largest built in rammed earth, with 4000 m² area, and also one of the highest?

Created by Marlonsales (talk). Self nom at 18:52, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• The only relevant linked article (Campinas) is not new, nor has it been recently expanded. As there is no article for Metropolitan Cathedral of Campinas, I would recommend creating one. KimChee (talk) 11:49, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello again, I removed your edits to Wikipedia:Recent additions as the article has not yet met the criteria to run on DYK. It is presently far short of the 5x expansion ratio required. I hope you understand. KimChee (talk) 19:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Gaililee (ship), Matthew Turner (shipbuilder)

• ... that the Galilee (pictured), a brigantine built by Matthew Turner in 1891, spent three years on charter to the Carnegie Institute of Washington as a magnetic observatory?

Created by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 21:20, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Pauline Bebe, [6] Mikenorton (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

That sentence isn't in the ship article with an inline citation. Also, are you submitting two articles with the same hook? Kirk (talk) 05:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes this is double nomination and is formatted as such - multiple nominations are quite common here. The hook does not need to appear verbatim in the article (or in this case articles) but the information is in both articles with an inline citation following the relevant sentence. Mikenorton (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I was just double checking on both articles; I modified the Galilee to address my concerns. Image, date, length, hook verified. Kirk (talk) 16:36, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Patriarchal Cathedral of the Holy Ascension of God

• ... that the high medieval Patriarchal Cathedral (pictured) atop the Tsarevets hill in Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, has had its interior repainted in a modernist style?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 11:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: N. D. Cocea
• Date, length, image OK. Foreign language ref AGF. But the hook needs a citation directly at the end of the relevant sentence. (Selection criterion No 3 — The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Done! Thanks for the heads-up :) — Toдor Boжinov — 13:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• All fine now.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:39, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Rabatment of the rectangle

• ... that Renaissance artists and architects used rabatment of the rectangle (example pictured) as a compositional tool in their work?

• Reviewed: Highweek ([7])

Created by Mattdm (talk), Binksternet (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 19:54, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook reference are all good. One quibble (does not effect DYK eligibility) is the large number of external links. Aesthetically, as bare urls they look ugly (this is an article on composition!), and a few look to be redundant. If possible, they should be winnowed down to those with the best info, and formatted. Thanks, The Interior (Talk) 18:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• I will take care of your concern. Thanks! Binksternet (talk) 18:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, the composition is now more harmonic. Cheers, The Interior (Talk) 19:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Betty Jane Gorin-Smith

• ... that historian Betty Jane Gorin-Smith penned a 2006 study of Confederate General John Hunt Morgan's 1863 raids though central Kentucky?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:57, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

:Reviewed Howard C. Reiche School

iLoo

• ... that the iLoo was a cancelled Microsoft project by British subsidiary MSN UK to develop a Wi-Fi-enabled Internet portable toilet for summer festivals?

• Reviewed: Mothers' Bus

5x expanded by Smallman12q (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Description section needs at least one ref. Otherwise ok - maybe hold for April fools' glory?? As it is the article leaves an air of mystery - maybe re-adding the old pre-expansion first line would be good? Was it really a serious proposal? 2 lls in cancelled. Johnbod (talk) 00:33, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Some say it was a serious proposal and got scrapped because they might have been sued by the inventor of the toilet roll browser. Others simply say it wasn't very serious, but either way it got a lot of attention either way. I know cancelled is spelled with 2 ll's, but firefox spell checker kept telling me otherwise. Feel free to keep for April fools...there are plenty of jokes to be made about this one=P. Anyhow, I'd like to get this to GA/FA now that I have the April 30th press release.Smallman12q (talk) 02:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Redgrave

• ... that the entrance to a burial vault below St Mary's Church, Redgrave, (pictured) in Suffolk was accidentally discovered during a rehearsal for Quasimodo?

• Reviewed: Ohinetahi

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and multiple sources all check out. Good to go. FruitMonkey (talk) 11:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Collective leadership

A man with greying hair, in military uniform with five medals

• ... that collective leadership was seen as the ideal form of governance by Soviet ideologists during the rules of Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev (pictured)?

Created by --TIAYN (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed M-46 (Michigan highway) --TIAYN (talk) 13:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Length, date and hook are fine. My only query would be the formating of the references. These seem strange to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

What's wrong with how the references are formatted? --TIAYN (talk) 13:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment: In the caption for Lenin's picture, where it says "extolled in", do you mean "excelled in" or "extolled"? A. Parrot (talk) 00:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I ment excelled. --TIAYN (talk) 13:06, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Reuben Wells (locomotive)

• ... that for thirty years the Reuben Wells steam engine, now on display at The Children's Museum of Indianapolis, pushed train cars up the steepest railroad incline in the United States?

Created/expanded by Cfreed12 (talk). Nominated by HstryQT (talk) at 03:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Juneau-Douglas Bridge

Everything looks accurate. Article is ready to go.--KMSchmidt (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 27

7 Day Sunday

• ... Chris Addison promoted his new satirical radio show 7 Day Sunday as "four relatively ill-informed idiots fail to take the news seriously for an hour" ?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 18:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: #Gilbert R. Tredway MickMacNee (talk) 18:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Aspen City Hall

• ... that Colorado's Aspen City Hall (pictured) was once used as a roller rink?

• Reviewed: Lake Sonfon ([8])

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159

• ... that Picander used a Word of Jesus on the cross for an aria in Bach's cantata Sehet, wir gehn hinauf gen Jerusalem, BWV 159, for the last Sunday before Lent?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Bach wrote it for the last Sunday before Lent, in 2011 6 March, but it's perhaps too distant to the prevailing carnival mood, proposed therefore for Ash Wednesday 9 March or later. No more Bach cantatas for Lent, it was silent time in Leipzig. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• reviewed: #Victoria Clock Tower --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Robert Stoepel

• ... that American composer Robert Stoepel wrote Hiawatha on Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's epic poem The Song of Hiawatha?

Created by Kosboot (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:24, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go! You could separate notes from citations! Makes the notes easier to read. MisterBee1966 (talk) 11:19, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Pic added, suggestion forwarded to the author, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT 1... that the 1859 symphonic work Hiawatha composed by Robert Stoepel (pictured) is based on Longfellow's epic poem The Song of Hiawatha?

I'd strongly suggest using this ALT hook. The other one is potentially confusing. If nothing else the orginal hook needs "based on" or "inspired by". A composition isn't "written on", in the sense intended here. Voceditenore (talk) 09:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Agree, learning, crossed out the other, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Victoria Clock Tower

• ... that the clock of the Victoria Clock Tower (pictured) spent the first three years inside a tower, where only its chime could be heard, but its face could not be seen?

• Reviewed: Juliusz Słowacki (on 13 Feb)
• Comment: I think this one has survived the latest earthquake.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good to me. I wonder though why the article does not mention the 2 miles you hear the chimes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Will add it. Thanks, Gerda. Schwede66 01:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

St John the Baptist's Church, Yarburgh

• ... that around the west door of St John the Baptist's Church, Yarburgh (pictured) in Lincolnshire are carvings of a coat of arms, Adam and Eve and the serpent, a Paschal Lamb, and a pelican?

• Reviewed: Anna Murray-Douglass

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook reference checked Kaly99 (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Margaret Creek

• ... that Margaret Creek in Ohio was named after Margaret Snowden, the first white woman settler in Athens County?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:41, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Octavius Wigram

• Source, length, expansion and date are all fine. The only issue is that the article is currently at AfD, where it seems likely to be kept. Assuming that is the result, the hook is good to go once the AfD closes. Rlendog (talk) 18:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys

• ... that sophisma "All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys" could result in both being truth and being false depending on the interpretation?

• Reviewed: Dayr al-Shaykh

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment: "Sophismata" is plural; this should be changed in the article and in the hook. The singular would be sophisma, see the Stanford ref in the article. --Pgallert (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Will do, thank you!--Mbz1 (talk) 12:17, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Fixed.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks, that's okay now, and length and date are fine. I still have a few complaints: This sophisma cannot be true and false at he same time, so I believe "either...or" is the better wording, also supported by the Standford ref. The grammar is also still a bit strange; I suggest:

• ALT 1... that depending on the interpretation, sophismata like "All men are donkeys or men and donkeys are donkeys" could either be true or false? --Pgallert (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• But there is also a more general concern: Considering that this problem has been solved more than a hundred years ago (Gottlob Frege was the first to consistently formalise propositional and predicate logic), this article reads a bit "in-universe": In modern logic, this sentence would have to be formalised to determine its truth value, and the formalisation would remove the ambiguity. But the article does not clearly say that this is a problem specific to medieval analytical philosophy, and that it cannot occur anymore. Requesting second opinion whether this is an issue or not. --Pgallert (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the proposed alternative hook. Thank you for explaining this to me.But adding to the article the thing about the formalisation would mean to get engaged in original research. In any case this situation could be discussed at the article's talk page, and the hook should be promoted IMO.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:47, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

As stated, I would like to see a second opinion from a DYK regular. Don't want to decide that alone. I do agree with the WP:OR concern, though. --Pgallert (talk) 09:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I added a general sentence that sophismata are not used in modern logic. There's no single valid reason to deny this hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 18:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't see why this shouldn't simply be merged with stub article Sophismata as it's simply an extremely elaborate explanation of a single sophisma of dubious independent notability. (The sources discuss the phrase as a sophisma, not as independent phrase in general use that happens to be a sophisma.) Cute title aside, I can't see anybody ever searching for this as a topic. (And a redirect will catch the occasional outlier.) A merged article would solve many of the concerns expressed by other reviewers, save me from slapping merge and notability tags on this article, and still be eligible for DYK. Win-win. - Dravecky (talk) 07:48, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Brilliant idea, imho, as stand-alone notability is a bit thin for this puzzle. The inclusion would also provide a somewhat broader introduction to the meaning of this singular example. --Pgallert (talk) 13:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I also agree with a merge to Sophismata and then promotion to DYK. It would be nice to see that stub get fleshed out with more content and all we would need to do with the hook is change the bolding. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:12, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

The Chieftains in China

• ... that in 1983 The Chieftains were the first ever Western musical group to play a concert on the Great Wall of China, resulting in an album:The Chieftains in China?

Created by Mike Searson (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Barry Jones (boxer)

I'd ask that this be used on March 17 for St Patrick's Day if at all possible.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 04:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length OK. First part of the hook confirmed by Ref 1; the rest AGF. But how about tightening the hook (and maybe making it more accurate) as:

ALT1 ... that in 1983 The Chieftains were the first Western band to perform on the Great Wall of China, leading to the album The Chieftains in China? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Works for me as far as the hook. Sometimes I write a decent hook, but I don't usually work on these types of articles (music, I'm normally a gun and knife kind of guy) so my wording was not as tight as yours was. Let me know if you need anything else!--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:45, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, with regard to the rest of the source. I have the actual book, but I do believe that page range can be seen via Google Books, unfortunately I cannot get to google books right now due to a firewall issue. I can in about 12 hours if you need a URL, though.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 17:48, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Link added for verification, firewall let me through today.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 18:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• for ALT1. I didn't get direct access to the second part of the hook, but that's no problem as far as DYK is concerned - AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Thurgarton

• ... that All Saints Church, Thurgarton, (pictured) in Norfolk is notable for its medieval bench ends carved with poppyheads, an elephant, barrels, mythical beasts, a man, a lion, and fighting dogs?

• Reviewed: Patriarchal Cathedral of the Holy Ascension of God

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Tim Hardaway, Jr.

• ... that shooting guard Tim Hardaway, Jr., who is the son of National Basketball Association All-Star Tim Hardaway, was the first Michigan Wolverines freshman to score 30 points in a game in 8 years?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:54, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: four hook multi-hook Batman topic from Feb 12 (one hook moved to April 1) covers Rose Catherine Pinkney as well as this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, and scoring statistics in hook verified. However, there is no source cited in the article for the fact that Jr. is the son of the elder Hardaway. KimChee (talk) 11:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Added a ref and a little more content.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hook length and ref all check out. Good to go now. KimChee (talk) 17:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Good to go. Nice page. Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not put this on the main page before March 8 because he is expected to be named Big Ten All-Freshmen on the 7th.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:21, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Comment: Does the hook really need the "who is"? I think those words can be left out without a problem. – ukexpat (talk) 02:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Rose Historic Chapel

• ... that the Rose Historic Chapel (pictured) was the first church designed by the Luttrell brothers, and they subsequently became the unofficial architects of the Diocese of Christchurch?

• Reviewed: Ford Ecostar
• Comment: Another Christchurch earthquake victim. The fact that it was the Luttrells' first church is stated in the heritage register entry, and that they became the diocese architects is mentioned in their DNZB bio.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Château Fortia

• ... that Baron Le Roy, owner of the Châteauneuf-du-Pape estate Château Fortia, help guide the creation of the Appellation d'origine contrôlée system that became the basis of French wine laws?

• Reviewed: Grammy Award for Best Americana Album
• Comment: Primary ref is offline Chateauneuf (FN#1) in lead and in the Baron Le Roy section. However, some of the online refs can assist in verification.

Created by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Greg Goossen

• ... that after retiring from baseball, catcher Greg Goossen turned to acting, working as a stand-in for actor Gene Hackman?

5x expanded by MusiCitizen (talk). Nominated by Wizardman (talk) at 17:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Le dernier sorcier

• ... that Johannes Brahms conducted the chamber opera Le dernier sorcier, written by Pauline Viardot (pictured), in Baden-Baden?

Created by Kosboot (talk), Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 09:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Johannes Brahms conducted the chamber opera Le dernier sorcier, written by Pauline Viardot (pictured) to a French libretto by Ivan Turgenev? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• ALT2:' ... that in 1869 Johannes Brahms conducted a gala performance in Baden-Baden of Le dernier sorcier, a chamber opera composed by Pauline Viardot (pictured)? Voceditenore (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I've suggested ALT2 because it's clearer, more concise, and gives the time context. As a general point, it's confusing to readers who are unfamiliar with the subject to refer to a musical work as "written by" someone, especially an opera. Voceditenore (talk) 11:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hannah (1849 shipwreck)

• ... that on April 29, 1849, the ship's master and two officers fled the Hannah in the only lifeboat after the brig was holed by ice, abandoning the passengers and remaining crew?

• Reviewed: 1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Date, length, and ref all check out. --E♴ (talk) 01:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Agriculture in Sierra Leone

• ... that agriculture in Sierra Leone (rice farmer pictured) accounts for about 50 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product?

• Reviewed: The Stanley Clarke Band

5x expanded by Kaly99 (talk). Self nom at 17:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date and 5x expansion confirmed, hook verified as well. — Toдor Boжinov — 08:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Papyrus Rylands 458

• ... that Papyrus Rylands 458 (pictured) is the oldest known manuscript of the Septuagint?

• Reviewed: University of Redwood (University of Redwood)

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Everything checks out- length, date, refs. I am no expert on this subject, but it seems to me that the hook should read "of The Septuagint" instead of "of Septuagint" Other than that, it's good to go. --E♴ (talk) 03:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Beeldenstorm

• ... that the Beeldenstorm was a wave of riotous destruction of church art and property that spread across the Low Countries in August 1566?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed iLoo Johnbod (talk) 00:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date and length verified. Sources are off-line, accepted in good faith. Calistemon (talk) 08:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

North Reef Light, Flat Top Island Light

• ... that at 24 metres (79 ft) and 6 metres (20 ft), North Reef Light and Flat Top Island Light (plans shown in scale) are the tallest and the shortest of Queensland's timber framed iron clad lighthouses?

• Reviewed: Old Bavarian Donaumoos ([9])
• Comment: claim can be easily verified here, page 4

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 13:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice job on these! Everything looks good- date, refs and length. I might suggest changing the hook slightly (adding "respectively" and making the d at the end of timber framed a part of the link to read:

ALT1: ... that at 24 metres (79 ft) and 6 metres (20 ft) respectively, North Reef Light and Flat Top Island Light (plans shown in scale) are the tallest and the shortest of Queensland's timber framed iron clad lighthouses?

--E♴ (talk) 03:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree it's better, but hook length might be a problem. Also, I removed the redundant word "the" from both hooks. --Muhandes (talk) 06:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Scorhill

• ... that on Midsummer's Eve the sun sets over the tip of the largest stone in the Scorhill Stone Circle (pictured), indicating the circle may have had a purpose in Archaeoastronomy?

• Reviewed: Glee: The Music, Volume 5 ([10])
• Comment: I realize that the article is classified as a stub, but I disagree with that classification, and hope this can be accepted on DYK.

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 00:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1

Characteristic equation

• ... that the mathematician Leonhard Euler discovered linear homogeneous ordinary differential equations with constant coefficients could be integrated using a simple characteristic equation?

Created by Arbitrarily0 (talk). Self nom at 19:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance -Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 19:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Grammy Award for Best Rap Performance

• ... that DJ Jazzy Jeff and Will Smith of DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince won Grammy Awards for Best Rap Performance the same year they boycotted the ceremony?

5x expanded by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 17:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date of expansion as well as source for hook verified. Nicely done, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 19:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Hylobius transversovittatus

• ... that the weevil, Hylobius transversovittatus, (pictured) has been introduced into the United States and Canada to help control the invasive wetland plant, purple loosestrife (Lythrum salicaria)?

• Reviewed: Godley Statue

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Cyanea superba, Cyanea truncata, Cyperus trachysanthos

• ... that on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, the rare and endangered flowers Cyanea superba and Cyanea truncata are threatened by feral pigs and rats, while feral goats are threats to Cyperus trachysanthos (pictured)?

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 04:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Papyrus Fouad 266

• ... that Papyrus Fouad 266 is the second oldest manuscript of Septuagint?

• ALT1:... that Papyrus Fouad 266 is the oldest known manuscript of the Septuagint, which used theTetragrammaton?
• ALT2:... that it is believed Papyrus Fouad 266 is a result of an early recension of the text of Septuagint towards the Masoretic Text?
• Reviewed: Henry Martyn Whitney ([Henry Martyn Whitney])

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Godley Statue

• ... that the Godley Statue (pictured), commemorating John Robert Godley as the "Founder of Canterbury", was the first portrait statue in New Zealand, and for almost 20 years the only one?

• Reviewed: Yet to be done
• Comment: Another earthquake victim, but this one is a good news story.

Created by Melburnian (talk), Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 19:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that after the Godley Statue (pictured) toppled during the 2011 Christchurch earthquake, time capsules were discovered in its plinth? – ukexpat (talk) 02:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Size, date and both hooks seem good to me. The second hook is the more "arresting".Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy with ALT1, so let's run with that one. Schwede66 20:18, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Harry Whitney

• ... that Harry Whitney (pictured) was at the center of the Peary-Cook controversy over who had reached the North Pole first?

Created by Wildcatman99 (talk). Nominated by Ukexpat (talk) at 15:00, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed California Shine the Light Law (S.B. 27). – ukexpat (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Phoenix Indian School

• ... that the Dining Hall and Memorial Hall at the National Register of Historic Places-listed Phoenix Indian School represent the first and last examples of Mission Revival architecture in Arizona?

Created by Raymie (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

There is a picture from Commons of Memorial Hall that could be used: File:Memorial Hall, Phoenix Indian School.jpg

Al-Fadl ibn Salih

• ... that during the tenure of the Abbasid governor al-Fadl ibn Salih, the Egyptian cities of al-Fustat and al-Askar were merged into one large city?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk), Zozo2kx (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Jack Kirrane

• ... that 12 years after his team was disqualified Jack Kirrane returned to the Olympics and captained the United States ice hockey team to a gold medal?

5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Self nom at 22:00, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Damon R. Eubank

• Staxringold _talk^contribs 19:13, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Léon Théry

Sculpture of Léon Théry at his tomb in the Père Lachaise Cemetery in Paris

• ... that Léon Théry was a French racing driver who won the Gordon Bennett Cup in 1904 and 1905?

• Reviewed: Maxberg specimen

new creation by Chienlit (talk). Self nom at 16:18, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook references verified, and wording checked. Ready to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thank you. Chienlit (talk) 08:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

No. 2 Flying Training School RAAF

• ... that "all-through jet training" on Macchis (pictured) at No. 2 Flying Training School RAAF was "an expensive way of finding out that some pupils lacked the aptitude to become military pilots"?

• Reviewed: Walter Koch (Fallschirmjäger)

5x expanded by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash

• ... that the accident that befell Skyways Coach-Air's Avro 748 G-ARMV at Lympne Airport on 10 July 1965 resulted in the first write-off of this type of aircraft?

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• I reviewed USRC Virginia (1797). Mjroots (talk) 10:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• . I don't see anything in the references that supports the claim that the waterlogged runway caused the accident. Also, the intro has no references.

• ALT1: that though the 1965 Skyways Coach-Air Avro 748 crash ended with the passengers hanging upside down in their seats, everyone survived. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• "Waterlogged" removed. Lede does not need refs, it is a brief overview of the article. Prefer my original hook, which Clarityfiend seems not to have checked for verifiability. Mjroots (talk) 05:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• There's no reference for "grass runway being unable to support the weight of the aircraft during a heavy landing" (which is mentioned only in the intro). All I see is "steeper than normal approach". Also, I'm not thrilled with the reference for the hook. The reader has to infer that it was the first from the results of a database search, and has to dig down one level to even find that the plane was written off. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• "Nose wheel dug in" = surface unable to support weight. Same difference. 1st write-off now referenced to a book source. Mjroots (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Made a grammatical correction. Looks OK, personally, but this is something new for me. Raymie (t • c) 21:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Calvin Tucker's Redneck Jamboree

• ... that Calvin Tucker's Redneck Jamboree is a Wii video game which features minigames based off of redneck activities?

• Reviewed: Zenga Zenga ([11])

Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Zenga Zenga

• ... that the Libyan opposition has embraced Zenga Zenga, an Israeli-created auto-tuned song and viral YouTube video that parodies Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi?

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 03:54, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Tim Hardaway, Jr.. Diff:[12] Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
• I was actually thinking about creating this article! Well done. That said, there's a couple of problems. Per D2, you should have at least one citation per paragraph outside of the lead, which you don't have right now, and your hook is not in the article and is not cited in the article. Nomader ^(Talk) 09:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I think I've addressed your concerns with a few edits. Please confirm. Plot Spoiler (talk) 16:11, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Hrm, I don't think you have but you're almost there-- your hook says "that the Libyan opposition has embraced Zenga Zenga", but it doesn't say that anywhere in the article. That said, it's obvious that they have according to the NY times, so I'd just add a sentence in the body which says, "Zenga Zenga has been embraced by the Libyan opposition" or something of the sort, and add the NY times ref at the end of it. Nomader ^(Talk) 01:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Under the "Reception" section it already reads: "Reactions have been largely positive, presumably from members of the Libyan opposition who have embraced it for its mockery of Gadaffi" [followed by the NYT reference]. Is this sufficient? Plot Spoiler (talk) 20:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no-- the hook should be directly cited by a reference at the end of the sentence. But I figured I'd save us both some time and I added it to the end of it myself. It meets the new article requirements, the hook's referenced, and I'm happy to approve. Nice work, and sorry about all this minor details mess! Nomader ^(Talk) 21:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks and no worries. Just doing your due diligence. Excited for it to get over 5k hits! Plot Spoiler (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Abdallah Salim Bawazir

• ... that Abdallah Salim Bawazir, a prolific Yemeni short story writer, novelist and columnist, worked for 33 years as the manager of a commercial store in Aden?

Created by Peripatetic (talk). Self nom, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• The article is not referenced properly, not even the hook is.... --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've notified the author of the need to supply proper referencing. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

History of the Soviet Union (1964–1982)

• ... that the Brezhnev Era was at the start ruled by a collective leadership consisting of Leonid Brezhnev as General Secretary, Alexei Kosygin as Premier, Anastas Mikoyan as head of state (replaced in 1965 by Nikolai Podgorny), Mikhail Suslov as Chief Ideologue and Andrei Kirilenko as organisational secretary?

Created by --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I reviewed the Abdallah Salim Bawazir page. --TIAYN (talk) 15:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

or...

• ... that Leonid Brezhnev did not rule the Soviet Union in an autocratic manner, but instead through a collective leadership?

or...

• ... that the Brezhnev Era was a period of declining economic growth which by Leonid Brezhnev's death, according to some historians, nearly come to a standstill?

William Isarn

• ... that William Isarn, a Spanish Count, was assassinated while trying to regain what he claimed was his family's land?

• Reviewed: Papyrus Rylands 458 ([13])

Created by Srnec (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 15:17, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

This hook is in the introductory paragraph, and there is no source by "assassinated while trying to regain what he claimed was his family's land". Billy Hathorn (talk) 06:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Roman Catholicism in Greenland

• ... that the Catholic Bishop of Greenland in the 1300's sent money to the Crusades in the form of walrus teeth?

Created by Judgesurreal777 (talk). Self nom at 20:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 2

Vickers Wellington LN514

• ... that in a British World War II propaganda exercise, a Wellington bomber was bult in under 24 hours, setting a new world record?

Created by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed: #Chris August, Starry Night (song) MickMacNee (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Jafr alien invasion

Jafr alien invasion, a flying saucer.

• ... that on April 1, 2010 security forces of Jordanian town of Jafr were sent into desert to look for flying saucers (pictured) that reportedly landed there a night before, but were not able to find any?

Alt 1 that on April 1, 2010 in Jordanian town of Jafr the parents refused to send their children to school because of reported extra terrestrial invasion (pictured)?

• Reviewed: St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich ([14])

Created by Mbz1 (talk and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

KMAK

• ... that Spanish-language Regional Mexican station KMAK launched in 1990 as an English-language Christian radio outlet serving Fresno, California?

• Reviewed: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus ([15])

5x expanded by Dravecky (talk). Self nom at 10:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Tecophilaea cyanocrocus

• ... that the Chilean blue crocus (pictured), native to the dry, stony slopes in the Andes mountains, was believed to be extinct in the wild until it was rediscovered in 2001?

Created by First Light (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 05:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length (1602 char), dates, and references all check out and article seems from of overt close paraphrasing. I like this hook but perhaps a hook-ier hook could be built around the fact that the Chilean blue crocus is not a crocus. - Dravecky (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Smart Cover

• ... that the Smart Cover for the iPad 2 has microfiber inside that doubles as a screen cleaner?

Created by Mono (talk). Self nom at 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• I've reviewed the submission below. Thanks. Mono (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Looks really good to me. Nice and timely info. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 22:54, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• Actually, I made the hook a bit more interesting. I'll add the info about the microfiber in the article. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 22:58, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• The information is already there, actually. Looks good, now. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 22:59, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
• This article and the hook both look remarkably similar to product advertisements. I pulled it back from the prep area because I don't think the main page should be used for advertising. I would like to see some additional opinions on it. --Orlady (talk) 05:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Bason Botanic Gardens

• ... that the Bason Botanic Gardens' conservatories were constructed from two demolished Wanganui picture theatres' recycled bricks?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Replaced ' with {{`}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:50, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Lenght, date and reference verified, good to go. Calistemon (talk) 06:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Paul E. Osborne

• ... that after his election in 1998 as mayor of Campbellsville, Kentucky, Paul E. Osborne worked to locate Amazon.com to his city?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

:Reviewed Michael S. Gottlieb

Belinda Meuldijk, Wim Meuldijk, Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder

• ... that Belinda Meuldijk, whose father Wim Meuldijk created the Dutch TV character Pipo de Clown (pictured), continued her father's legacy with the 2003 movie Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder?

Created/expanded by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• I'll review the nomination below, Pym. Drmies (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
• Oh, one more thing. It's a stretch, maybe, on a triple DYK--but Belinda is of the female persuasion, so holding it for 8 March is a possibility. We have an image (see her article) that could replace Pipo's. On the other hand, a picture of a clown on the front page, that ain't bad either. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Lengths, dates and hook references for Belinda Meuldijk and Pipo en de p-p-Parelridder are verified. However, Wim Meuldijk lacks inline citations right after the sentence stating that he indeed created Pipo de Clown. I know it's a no-brainer, but rules are rules. Pending the citation(s), which I will have to accept in WP:AGF, the nomination is ready to go. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 04:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Done. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 04:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Sorry for harping on this, but not quite: the statement "he created the character Pipo de Clown" must end in citation, which it still does not. Cinosaur (talk) 05:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Done. Drmies (talk) 05:23, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Issues resolved. Good to go. Cinosaur (talk) 05:41, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Pym (novel)

• ... that it took author Mat Johnson nine years of writing, 16 drafts, and three deletion attempts to complete his 2011 novel Pym?

Created by DracoEssentialis (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• I hope author doesn't mind: I've changed "new" in the hook (recentism) to "2011." I'll review the rest later. Drmies (talk) 03:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• OK, the article is really good--how good? I'm ordering the novel. I have only one problem, well, two: the first is, I don't like references without templates, but that's not a reason to halt the DYK process; I would like to see closing punctuation in the references, though.

  But my real issue is the hook. It should probably have an "according to Johnson" since it's based on his own claim. More importantly, it's sourced to Johnson's Twitter feed, and while I guess this kind of information could be reliably sourced to Twitter, I'm not sure if a DYK nomination should have that. I'd like other authors to weigh in. Perhaps other hooks can be pondered as well--the article is full of juicy bits that are hookworthy. Draco, thanks for writing this up! Drmies (talk) 03:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Ryan Singer (artist)

• ... that Diné artist Ryan Singer worked for the United States Forest Service before becoming a full time artist?

Created by User:Missvain (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Not clearly explained in article, no reliable source. Perhaps a different fact? Mono (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Created a different DYK...how about that? :) Missvain (talk) 05:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

All Saints Church, East Horndon

• ... that All Saints Church, East Horndon, (pictured) in Essex has been damaged by a bomb, a tramp, and vandals?

• Reviewed: The Chieftains in China

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Cool article, facts check out. Missvain (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Ford Ecostar

• ... that Ford's first foray into electric vehicles ended after several of their Ecostar's sodium-sulfur batteries burst into flame during charging?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Replaced 's with {{`s}} per rule C7. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Sedmoi Kontinent below.

"First foray into electric vehicles" - I can't see where it states that in the article, hence I was unable to confirm this fact. There's no reference at the end of the sentence that describes the fires, which is a DYK requirement. The ref at the end of that paragraph does not appear to confirm the fires, but talks about battery life and the guarantees (unless I've overlooked something). It's long enough, new, and well referenced.

To make the article more readable for people outside of the US, I recommend that you use conversion templates (I for one have no concept what 600 Fahrenheit are). It would also be desirable if you could link this article from others, so that the orphan tag can be removed. These latter points are not DYK requirements, but would improve the article. Schwede66 19:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Sedmoi Kontinent

• ... that Sedmoi Kontinent was the first Russian food retail company to make an initial public offering?

• Reviewed: Joanne Siegel

Created by Nanobear (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Great article! Hook checks, other refs OK too. Good to go. I wish the Times didn't have a paywall though :-( Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Pierre Chambrin

• ... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to appoint an American chef as a replacement for White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin?

Created by Yaksar (talk). Self nom at 07:48, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, hook references verified. Please consider slightly rewording the hook to move the main article's link more up-front to give it more prominence, like: ... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to replace White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin with an American chef? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 14:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• comment: American cuisine was linking to a dab page, I changed the link to Cuisine of the United States. J04n(talk page) 16:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Alt1:... that Alice Waters lobbied the Clinton administration to replace White House Executive Chef Pierre Chambrin with an American chef?

Is that what you meant? I'm new at this, it's my first. My only worry with this one is that it might be awkward having the word chef twice so close to each other, but I may be looking into it too much. If it's important that the bold link be close to the front, I guess this is better. Thanks!--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Not much closer in Alt1, but it's a better sentence structure, IMHO. Besides, arguably, the closer the main article link is to the hook front, the more likely it is to be looked up once on the WP:Main page. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Alt1 good to go. Cinosaur (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Intel Extreme Masters

• ... that Season 5 of the Intel Extreme Masters eSports tournament has a prizepool of Template:Currency/Type130,000 spread over Starcraft II, League of Legends, Counter-Strike, and Quake Live?

• Reviewed: Crash_Position_Indicator ([16])
• Comment: Event ends on the 5th, so would be cool to get it up before it ends.

Created by NativeForeigner (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

United States v. Morris

• ... that Robert Tappan Morris was convicted of a crime for releasing a worm?

• Reviewed: Hannah (1849 shipwreck) ([17])
• Comment: I was thinking this could be an April 1 hook.

Created by Maxburkhardt (talk). Nominated by E2eamon (talk) at 01:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, conviction verified. I like it for April Fool's Day (I supposedly was "in charge" for several years). Maybe you could up it a bit with the hook ... that it cost up to $53,000 to clean up after Robert Tappan Morris' worm? Royalbroil 05:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Malcolm MacVicar

• ... that a hospital at Spelman College was named for Malcolm MacVicar (pictured), even though he had no direct association with the school?

Created by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Iztapalapa, Mexico City (diff). cmadler (talk) 19:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Iztapalapa, Mexico City

• ... that the borough of Iztapalapa in Mexico City hosts an annual passion play (participant pictured) that attracts 2 million spectators?

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Blake Geoffrion from February 26Thelmadatter (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Image is fine. Verified article length and expansion. I assume the source for this is #45, but that doesn't appear until a sentence later; it needs to be added directly after the claim. I'm fine with assuming good faith on the Spanish-language source, but I would appreciate someone else taking a look at this article, just due to the sheer length, to make sure there are no other concerns. cmadler (talk) 19:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

oops, didnt catch that. The two million number appears in several sources so I put them all after the sentence in question.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:11, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich

• ... that since St Mary at the Quay Church, Ipswich, (pictured) in Suffolk closed for worship, it has been used as headquarters for the Boy's Brigade, and a venue for performing arts?

• Reviewed: Theo Berger

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go with the image.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Persoonia linearis, Persoonia rigida

• ... that the geebungs of the eastern states of Australia can be narrow-leaved or stiff?

• Comment: hold off reviewing, I am trying to load this one up.... :)

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Theo Berger

• ... that Bavarian criminal Theo Berger, despite escaping four times, spent 36 years in jail and committed suicide there in 2003?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 06:19, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Bason Botanic Gardens

• Date, length, hook OK (typo corrected). Ref AGF. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Gilbert R. Tredway

• ... that the Civil War historian Gilbert R. Tredway found that Democrats in his native Indiana were loyal to the Union in contrast to the Copperheads, who undermined the war effort?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed William Isarn

• I cannot verify the hook on a quick reading of one source, nor can I find it in refs 3, 6 or 7 (which is his entire thesis) which all refer to the hook. The article is generally OK and otherwise qualifies, but that's all I can do without more detailed information on where the claim comes from (exact source & page no. etc). If it's an amalgamation, I suggest replacing the hook to one which relates directly to a more easily verifiable factoid. MickMacNee (talk) 18:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Chris August, Starry Night (song)

• ... that Chris August's 2010 song "Starry Night" was the first debut single to top the Billboard Christian AC Monitored chart in over three years?

Created by Royalbroil (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Momchil, United States v. Morris Royalbroil 04:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Everything's OK, although I'd just like a second opinion on whether the hook's sourceCMSpin is considered reliable. MickMacNee (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Don't Hold Your Breath

• ... that the demo version of "Don't Hold Your Breath" was sung by Timbaland and Keri Hilson, and is distinctly different from the present version released by Nicole Scherzinger?

Created by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Oakland Athletics first-round draft picks

• ...that four first-round draft picks of the Oakland Athletics have won the Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award?

Created by Staxringold (talk). Self nom at 19:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Jack Kirrane

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

March 8 (International Women's Day)

Malati Dasi

• ... that a US-born ex-hippie Malati Dasi (pictured), despite fierce opposition, in 1998 became the first international female leader of the Hare Krishna movement?

5x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Cinosaur (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Caccia Birch House ([18]) Cinosaur (talk) 01:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Given that this woman has managed to break one of the hardest glass ceilings for women in religious history, if passed, this DYK could be a worthwhile addition to the March 8 (International Women's Day) section. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Looks good on all counts!-- Chienlit (talk) 16:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• The nomination moved to March 8 holding area. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hikmat Abu Zayd

• ... that Hikmat Abu Zayd (pictured) was the first female cabinet minister in Egypt?

Created by BomBom (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I think it would be nice if this hook appeared on the Main Page on International Women's Day (8 March). --BomBom (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, citation for the hook and the image license look OK. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:14, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:21, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Claire Falkenstein

• ... that a critic described the work of abstract sculptor Claire Falkenstein as "a Jackson Pollock in three dimensions"?

• Reviewed: Al Mar Knives ([19])

Created by Mandarax (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

• Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Orla Kiely

• ... that Irish designer Orla Kiely has had her work featured on a range of Citroën DS3 cars, although she's better known for textiles?

• Reviewed: A Darker Domain

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 14:01, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Good to go. This would be a good DYK for International Women's Day, on 8 March; it would be nice to have the front page filled with articles celebrating women that day. --JN466 23:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Anna Murray-Douglass

• ... that Anna Murray-Douglass helped her future husband, Frederick Douglass, escape slavery by giving him sailor's clothes and a part of her savings?

Created by Jayen466 (talk). Self nom at 23:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

This might be a suitable candidate for International Women's Day (March 8th). --JN466 23:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Reviewed Orla Kiely. --JN466 23:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• DYK criteria met. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Moved to March 8 holding area. --JN466 12:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Pauline Bebe

• ... that Pauline Bebe was France's first female rabbi?

Created by Genevieve2 (talk). Nominated by Jayjg (talk) at 04:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

• Note: Author would like this to appear on March 8 (International Women's Day). Jayjg ^(talk) 05:25, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
• Length, date and hook ref all OK. Mikenorton (talk) 22:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Rose Catherine Pinkney

• ... that Rose Catherine Pinkney has developed dozens of American television shows, including The X-Files and Girlfriends?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewing: The Batman topic of Batı Raman oil field, Batman, Turkey, Batman Province and Batman River--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• This one might be a good DYK for International Women's Day (March 8). Kaldari (talk) 23:12, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• That is fine by me. Should I move it to that date?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, but after it is reviewed and approved. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 02:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Despina Storch

• ... that alleged German spy Despina Storch (pictured) was immortalized as "Turkish Delight", "Turkish beauty", and a "modern Cleopatra" in spy literature?

• Reviewed: The Tip-Off

Created by Mbz1 (talk). Self nom at 21:11, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

• Verified, nice work. Brandmeister t 00:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Any chance you guys would want to hold this one for International Women's Day (March 8)? There's a holding space for the date in the special occasions section below. Kaldari (talk) 23:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• Yep, no problem. Brandmeister t 08:46, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area. Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Lorene Cary

• ... that author Lorene Cary (pictured) was the second African American girl accepted at the "elite" St. Paul's boarding school in New Hampshire, and in 1991 published a memoir of her experiences, Black Ice?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 04:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Date, length and the hook check out. Good to go.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comment I believe that this article could make a great hook for the March 8 International Women's Day. May it please be moved there? Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• Moved to March 8 holding area - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

• With thanks to Mbz1, I've added an image. Drmies (talk) 22:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

• Image licensing verified. I suggest, however, that the hook be tweaked so that the appositive and antecedent match -- as it is, the antecedent of Black Ice is experiences; maybe .... in 1991 published Black Ice, a memoir of her experiences? --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû _(blah?) 01:43, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

• I have no problem with that. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:29, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

June 19

Rizal Day

• ... that Philippine town of Daet, Camarines Norte was the first place to celebrate Rizal Day with its construction of the first Rizal monument (pictured)?

Created/expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 05:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Request: I suggest this appear either on June 19 (Rizal's birth), December 30 (Rizal's execution) or any date from June 15-24 (Daet's Pineapple Festival). –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
• Size and date are fine. However, the hook is unreferenced. There is a reference at the end of a paragraph containing the hook, several sentences in - this is unsatisfactory. Ideally, each sentence should be referenced; at the very least - the hook one should be. The problem is fixable, and once this is solved the article should be a "go" for DYKing. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 05:54, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Please see references nos. 1 and 2. All paragraphs are referenced. It'll be pretty hard to read that thing when every sentence, even the hook, has a citation. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 05:57, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• I don't see why. On the other hand, in the case only a para has a ref, it is impossible to trust anything but the last sentence. Consider what will happen when somebody adds more content to the middle, or moves the current one around. I don't think an article with any unreferenced sentence can become a FA, and GA and DYKs require them for most sentences those days, too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 07:07, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• You see, that only works if each sentence has a different reference than the previous one (such as FAs and some GAs). If I'd be reusing those two references on every sentence, it's repetitive and unsightly. Where's the DYK rule that every sentence has to be cited? The only relevant rule is rule D2 and it doesn't mention citing every sentence, especially if the entire paragraph is referenced on that/those reference/s.–HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Just for the heck of it, I did just that, citing every sentence in the first section, and it now looks unsightly with those repetitive ^[1][2] after every sentence. I know we should be citing and stuff, but this is not the way to do it if there are only a few references. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 07:35, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks. One gets used to that after a while, it is a wiki-necessity. I also asked for clarification of inline citations and DYK rules here. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 08:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reviewed Common Schools Act of 1871. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 06:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Halloween

Rhacophorus vampyrus

• ... that the tadpole of the Vampire flying frog Rhacophorus vampyrus has two fang-like hooks in its mouth?

Created by Newone (talk), Ka Faraq Gatri (talk). Nominated by Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) at 14:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment If the article meets DYK criteria, suggest moving it to Special Occasions section and keeping for Halloween. The authors of the paper on which this article is substantially based have stated that they intend to publish a separate paper on the tadpoles of this species so the move would also allow time for any material from this paper (assuming it is published in time) to be incorporated. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 16:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• That's confirmed. I agree that this should be kept for Halloween, especially as "A detailed description of the new tadpole will be published separately." which might be available by October. It's certainly an early start for the Halloween collection, does anyone think it is a problem to save it until then? SmartSE (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

SUPPORT waiting till Halloween, esp. if we can get a good, free picture of the scary tadpoles. --PFHLai (talk) 04:06, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've moved this as there were no objections. If someone wants to make a subpage for it, like we have for April Fools' nominations then feel free. SmartSE (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment Halloween is just under 10 months away. I can't help thinking that if every vaguely ghoulish or spooky article is saved up that long, it will create a massive backlog (and a precedent for other days). After all, there are only 3-4 sessions of 6 or 7 hooks available for any particular day. Bob talk 22:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Comment I have a raised eyebrow over this. Essentially were promoting an article to DYK, which in over half a year will appear on the main page. Would not this article be substatiannnly different from the one reviewed giving that theres 7+ months between creation and DYK appearance? Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:14, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

See also

• User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).