[[Image:Daryll Clark handoff.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that '''[[Evan Royster]]''' (pictured) was the [[Pennsylvania State University|Penn State]] [[2008 Penn State Nittany Lions football team|Nittany Lions]] starting [[running back]] for the team that let head coach [[Joe Paterno]] tie the record for all-time NCAA Division I victories? (self-nom) [[User:Dincher|Dincher]] ([[User talk:Dincher|talk]]) 21:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] Length & date verified. The article says that he is a [[tailback]] (a newbie to American football will find this confusing). Though the article says that Paterno tied with another coach in terms of number of victories, it doesn't support that it was all-time NCAA Division I victories. Clarification is needed. [[User:Mspraveen|Mspraveen]] ([[User talk:Mspraveen|talk]]) 15:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Thanks for the fixing the tailback aspect. I'm sorry if I were being a pain with this, but I only see the reference suggesting that Paterno is tied for victories with Bowden and nothing about all-time NCAA Division I victories. [[User:Mspraveen|Mspraveen]] ([[User talk:Mspraveen|talk]]) 02:39, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::::No problem at all. Thanks for the concern and suggestions. [[User:Dincher|Dincher]] ([[User talk:Dincher|talk]]) 10:48, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Hunterian Psalter c. 1170 Eve spinning.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that the '''[[Hunterian Psalter]]''', of about 1170, is the oldest English [[illuminated manuscript]] to have miniatures with backgrounds of incised [[gold leaf]] ''(pictured)''? article by [[User:Fordmadoxfraud]], nom by [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 16:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Phillips Mansion, Pomona.jpg|right|100x100px|''Phillips Mansion and grounds'']]
[[Image:Phillips Mansion, Pomona.jpg|right|100x100px|''Phillips Mansion and grounds'']]
* ... that the '''[[Phillips Mansion]]''' ''(pictured)'', described as having been built in the "Classic Haunted Mansion architectural style," was the home of '''[[Louis Phillips|the richest man in Los Angeles County]]''' from 1875 to 1900? Two new articles, self nom [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 18:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
* ... that the '''[[Phillips Mansion]]''' ''(pictured)'', described as having been built in the "Classic Haunted Mansion architectural style," was the home of '''[[Louis Phillips|the richest man in Los Angeles County]]''' from 1875 to 1900? Two new articles, self nom [[User:Cbl62|Cbl62]] ([[User talk:Cbl62|talk]]) 18:51, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
... that Oriana Skylar Mastro(pictured), a Stanford political scientist, joined the U.S. Air Force as a PhD student to better understand military issues in the Asia–Pacific region?
... that had Cambodian swimmer Apsara Sakbun declined her invitation to compete at the 2024 Summer Olympics, her sister would have become an Olympian instead?
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I understand your concern about POV, but "unusal" isn't actually quantifiable either. If the word "bizarre" was to be used in the article with in-line citations (and preferably in quotation marks) I don't think it should be a problem. Boston (talk) 21:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added a picture caption, because "Panorama Nydeggbruecke Bern.jpg" sounds like it's a picture of the wrong bridge (Brücke or -bruecke means bridge). Art LaPella (talk) 22:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can't access offline ref but article says "the largest paleontological painting in the world", not the broader "natural history". —97198 (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that, Isabel Gonzalez, a pregnant Puerto Rican mother who in 1902 was detained in Ellis Island as an alien, challenged the Government of the United States in the groundbreaking case "GONZALES v. WILLIAMS", which helped pave the way for all Puerto Ricans to be recognized as citizens of the United States? Tony the Marine (talk) 23:53, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It has potential, although I'd prefer a word other than "controversial"; and the article lacks inline citations; I've added a slew of fact tags, if you cite these sources - and add one or two more sources, I think it could be featured. Sherurcij(speaker for the dead) 20:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added some, and removed some bits I couldn't find sources for (I copied this straight from the French Wikipedia). It could do with a fact check before being featured, as well as a thorough copyedit. how do you turn this on20:59, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I may jump in? I don't like to be pedantic, but Edward was not Edward VIII at the time of his marriage as he had already abdicated. And I'm not sure about Wallis's surname - did she not revert (vague recollection here, may be wrong) to Wallis Warfield? George The Dragon (talk) 21:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're probably right, though this may be better discussed on the article talk page, then updated here. I know he wasn't King, that's for sure. But I wasn't sure what else to call him how do you turn this on21:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Adamson House, called the "Taj Mahal of Tile", uses local handmade Malibu tiles throughout and even has an elaborately tiled dog bath and a 60-foot imitation Persian rug made of tile? more than 5-fold expansion by Cbl62 (talk) 14:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just wikilinked road racing cyclist and national criterium and road race champion. However, I advise you to retain the surprise element (that she's not actually from America's Next Top Model). Mspraveen (talk) 14:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Samuel Johnson's London, his first major work, contains the beginnings of his views on literature, politics and ethics? self-nom, new pages (with one "early life" explained - All pages contain information pulled over from other pages, but contain a lot of new information (over 3k worth each, plus headers, etc). I talked to some people about a dispute before - Johnbod, and Art LaPella are pushing forth an "unwritten" rule to say that content like this must be a five fold expansion above the information pulled elsewhere. I believe that there is no difference if I added in that information now or if I were to wait 5 days after to add it in after it went through DYK, especially when there is enough new information to warrant it as a topic without any problem. The only page that would be a problem here is the "early life" page, as the rest are all new and written together with the information placed on the main Samuel Johnson page and are not duplicate.) This is all a question on if early life should be bolded or not. The other three are new and not a content split, but pages created per FAC and then linked into the main page later. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article uses bare URLs for citations, is unwikified, and has other issues. The primary editor does not seem willing to address these concerns. - Boston (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- article says the seats came from Briggs Stadium, which appears to be an older name for Tiger Stadium. I suppose we should be consistent and change the hook to read "Briggs". Otherwise, size and refs check, not a stub -> almost ready to go. Truthanado (talk) 01:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I helped with the hook (Dincher did the article and all the hard work). If "Tiger Stadium" is changed to "Briggs Stadium", I would make it clearer by changing it to "that were taken from Detroit's Briggs Stadium?" the alternate hook would be
Either hook is fine with me. I used Briggs Stadium in the article because that is what it was known as at the time. Briggs Stadium and Tiger Stadium are one in the same. Dincher (talk) 10:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Object Badly written, ill-sourced article, researched by Google, and containing such writing as Kievsky traveled during the time of the middle ages. (To pile Ossa upon Pelion, Kievsky isn't a surname, it's a post-positive adjective.) SeptentrionalisPMAnderson18:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded article from a detailed Ukrainian website and replaced the objected use of "Kievsky" with his first name of "Daniel". The main reference for the article is the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition which I based my article on. --Doug Coldwelltalk22:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- According to the article, the record was definitely broken, so "possibly" in the hook is misplaced. How about rephrasing it. Otherwise, size and refs check out, not a stub -> ready to go after rephrasing. Truthanado (talk) 01:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Kapala, the tantric’s skull bowl has a link with Charnel ground or Sky burial practice in Tibet and the derivative name Kapalik well known as a tantric in India. the stub article Kapala with 1,824 bytes has been expanded to 14,558 bytes.--Nvvchar (talk) 06:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't meet the rules as it is. The hook is not well phrased, or linked, & the Kapalik part is referenced, via a mirror site, only to another WP article. There are plenty of potential hooks here & I suggest you read the rules & try another version of this or a different one. Date & article size ok. Johnbod (talk) 18:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Lonar Lake in the Buldana district of Maharashtra, India, a unique salt water lake in basaltic formation, is an explosion crater lake created by a meteor weighing about 2 million tonnes hitting the earth some 50,000 ± 6,000 years ago? Nvvchar (talk) 02:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The artcile has been shortened from 15,336 bytes to 12134 bite. I was under the impression that artciles could be upto 30 kb size.--Nvvchar (talk) 12:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lonar lake is created under the category of List of Lakes in Asia under the sub list of List of Lakes in India and I consider it desirable to maintain the identity of the lake since it is popular in India as a lake rather than a crater, and the lake may also be considered for recognition as a Ramsar site for conservation. Lonar crater is a shorter article (dealing with geological aspects only) and it may not be appropriate to merge Lonar lake with it. Should I now create another article with the title Lonar Lake? As regards shortening the article, I got confused between Hook and article. I will restore it to the original size.Please consider retaining the article as Lonar lake.--Nvvchar (talk) 15:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't create another article with the title Lonar Lake. There should be one article about the lake, not one about the lake and another about the Lake. The only reason I capitalized the word "Lake" in the title is because the word "Lake" is normally capitalized in that context – for example, Great Bear Lake not "Great Bear lake". If that rule is different in India, then maybe this is a WP:ENGVAR situation. In either case, the suggestion was to move the article – that is, change the title from "Lonar lake" to "Lonar Lake" – certainly not to write a duplicate article. Art LaPella (talk) 21:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting nom, and nice that the Nevada article is developing, but it does not meet DYK criterion for a 5X expansion within 5 days. Measurement of 5X criterion is to based on number of characters in main text, which i didnt count. But in raw size article now at 19,000 or so bytes, was at 13,721 on 12 August 2008. doncram (talk) 19:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that despite being a popular treatment for cystitis in most of Europe since the late 1970s, pivmecillinam is still effective against over 95% of strains of the bacteria it was first found to kill?
... that a prodrug of the antibioticmecillinam was developed so that it could be taken by mouth and not just IV, but the inactive component of the prodrug was later found to deplete the body of carnitine?
Article has a number of in-line citations, but I'm uncomfortable seeing Voith as the only citation that suggests it is the world's most powerful. Commercial producers often claim such things, and should only be believed if third-party sources agree with the claim. Sherurcij(speaker for the dead) 20:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length okay. "Bizarre"-ness of titles is subjective, and word is not sourced, does not appear in article. Could you compose a different hook? doncram (talk) 16:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hook sounds promising, but when I look for source and compare 2nd ref to plot summary section, it shows very close paraphrasing (using phrases like "revolves around the unfortunate" and "accident prone" without quoting, and same structure). I don't know how to evaluate the adequacy of this sourcing for DYK; I'd rather it was rewritten in your own words or using explicit quotes. doncram (talk) 05:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I say keep the original as "have titles such as", because it's definitely unusual on its own, no word to explicit the bizarreness are needed, really. Circeus (talk) 19:04, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, the problem isn't the sentence (although I just linked "JSDF"). It's that every DYK sentence should introduce an appropriate article. For details, see User:Art LaPella/No qualifying article. Did You Know is intended to introduce new articles. A fivefold expansion is considered new enough. A 1.6-fold expansion is not considered new enough. So you might want to triple the article size (or more precisely, triple its prose portion) within 5 days. Or you could start over with a new, 1500-character article. Art LaPella (talk) 04:12, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can expand and dig more info, but I kinda doubt it since it's a Japanese firearm. Nevertheless, I'll try my best to do it. Will anyone check it soon since I'll try and increase it. I looked at the the DYK rules regarding prose. Sorry, I guess I was a bit confused. XP Ominae (talk) 07:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, sorry, not as long as the length is 2795, for a 2.5x expansion. The rule is 5x expansion. So you might want to double the prose portion of that article, or start a new one. Art LaPella (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if we can really attribute the extra 14 years of life to just the heart transplantation. Not sure anyone living a few more years after a life-saving procedure is unique and interesting, anyways. --74.14.18.83 (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Pomona City Stables(pictured), which housed 22 horses upon its completion in 1909, is reported to be one of the oldest municipal buildings still extant in California? new article, self nom. Cbl62 (talk) 06:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
People get fired for failing to do what their boss told them to do -- all the time. Need to be clear that neither the Empress nor the eunuch was supposed to be the chancellor's boss. --74.14.18.83 (talk) 17:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
without picture: Length, expansion and date verified. Hook supported in article and cited. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. with picture: Picture copyright status is fine. If used, the hook needs to be updated, and it can not be done by simply adding (pictured), since the picture apparently(?) is of a male bird, while the hook focuses on a female bird. Oceanh (talk) 21:38, 1 September 2008 (UTC). Suggestion:[reply]
*... that the larger and more distinctively coloured female Black-breasted Buttonquailmates with multiple male quails, who in turn incubate the eggs? (male buttonquail pictured)
:*Removed strike out from hook to display with less than 200 characters. Length, date OK. Assuming good faith for one reference that is off-line, snippet view on google books almost shows it [1] . --Captain-tucker (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All facts check out except that I cannot prove that Louis Phillips was "the richest etc" (source not on line) ... oh and who wrote this double nom? (Comment: Doesnt look haunted to me! and I'd change "the home of" to "named after") Victuallers (talk) 11:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, forgot to sign it initially; I've added that now. The "richeset man" part comes from the following off-line newspaper article: "Worth Millions: The Richest Man in Los Angeles County Is Louis Phillips", Los Angeles Times, September 18, 1892. The obituary and other sources cited in the article also verify that the mansion was Phillips' home from 1875 until his death in 1900. Cbl62 (talk) 18:53, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, i opened the Peshekee River Bridge article but mostly by cut and paste from Imzadi1979's U.S. Route 41 in Michigan. The two DYK's should be in one DYK double nomination, perhaps something like: ... that the 1914 Peshekee River Bridge(pictured), on U.S. Route 41 in Michigan, was the first bridge designed by the Michigan State Highway Department? (please credit to Imzadi1979). doncram (talk) 20:14, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Before the August 30, there was a redirect for U.S. Route 41 in Michigan to U.S. Route 41 and now there is a 36K article. Also, there was no article for Trunkline Bridge No. 1 at all, and now it is 5K in length. The second article was created as a spur off the first, recycling and expanding on content from the US 41 in Michigan article.Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can the same new materials be used to qualify two articles? Does the second article need to 5X-expand from the previously new materials? I dunno how DYK rules should apply. --74.14.18.83 (talk) 02:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The old "article" was a redirect of about zero size, or perhaps the start should be regarded as the Michigan section in this prior version of the US Route 41 article, which had 2825 characters by my count. The current hwy in Michigan article has 14,590 chars by my count, a 5.15 X expansion relative to the prior section, or 465 chars more than 5X expansion. The bridge article is entirely new, not included in the old section. Whether there is some overlap between the two new articles, or not, does not matter in DYK, I think. Anyhow, i originally pasted over 592 characters of new material and the bridge is 2460 chars now (all new in my view). We could strike 465 chars out of the hwy article so that there is less overlap, then count only 592-465=137 chars in the bridge article as being duplicated new material and there is > 5X expansion relative to that. Any which way you look at it, I really think they are both fine, but now that i am sort of involved, could someone else give it the check mark?
I personally don't favor the combined nomination and think both articles should be considered separately. However, someone has vetted that both articles do quality under DYK criteria. Can someone please verify this soon? I'd like to know if there's anything further I need to do before either article is too old to be eligible anymore. Imzadi1979 (talk) 01:24, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Prose before expansion was just less than 2300, and now it's just under 3600 - that's not even a twofold expansion. Plus, the hook isn't particularly remarkable either. —97198 (talk) 03:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that "Skin Hunters" is the media nickname for four hospital casualty workers from the Polish city of Łódź, who murdered patients and sold information regarding their deaths to funeral homes? new article, self-nom Malick78 (talk) 11:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That article was written in 2007 and last updated in February this year. But either way, the four main criminals have been convicted and their convictions upheld. Their crimes took place in 2001 so the WP page isn't really hasty:) Malick78 (talk) 18:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article you link to says the 4 people have been convicted but authorities are investigating other people. The WP page says that 4 people have been convicted but authorities are investigating other people. Where's the problem? It's accurately reporting the situation, isn't it? Stick a warning at the top saying that the page covers ongoing events, but apart from that the page is fine. We can cover developing events you know. Malick78 (talk) 11:50, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Real names are protected by the courts. The article uses initials. In a final statement one of the convicted said he’s innocent.[2] DYK can certainly do without. --Poeticbenttalk16:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For those interested, Poeticbent has failed to provide a current source on the article's discussion page sourcing his concerns. I would humbly therefore say the article is fine for DYK. Other views would be welcome:) Malick78 (talk) 05:52, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article has a delete template on it. This will need to be resolved
I don't understand the description of the crime. The motive is not clear
Can't access offline ref but article says "the largest paleontological painting in the world", not the broader "natural history". —97198 (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
304 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
copyedited & now ok to go. Johnbod (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Date and length okay; offline ref accepted in good faith. —97198 (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
- alternate hook is preferred, could be a bit shorter -> good to go Truthanado (talk) 22:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't meet the rules as it is. The hook is not well phrased, or linked, & the Kapalik part is referenced, via a mirror site, only to another WP article. There are plenty of potential hooks here & I suggest you read the rules & try another version of this or a different one. Date & article size ok. Johnbod (talk) 18:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
Date, length ok. Hook ref on AGF (& I remember it is right). Johnbod (talk) 03:02, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
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This article wasn't created or fivefold expanded recently. Olaf Davis | Talk 16:07, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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- held until "AFD" is resolved Victuallers (talk) 22:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)