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:* [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Interesting hook but the article is only 595 characters (85 words) "readable prose size", quotes don't count.--[[User:NortyNort|NortyNort]] <small>[[User talk:NortyNort|(Holla)]]</small> 10:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:* [[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]] Interesting hook but the article is only 595 characters (85 words) "readable prose size", quotes don't count.--[[User:NortyNort|NortyNort]] <small>[[User talk:NortyNort|(Holla)]]</small> 10:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:* [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Current refs seem weak to me; far too many self-published. I hadn't heard the term before, but if the topic is notable I'd expect to see, for example, at least a few books (from well-established scientific or philosophy publishing houses) entirely about the concept, perhaps in relation to positivism. &nbsp;–&nbsp;<font face="Cambria">[[User:Ohiostandard|<font color="teal">'''OhioStandard'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Ohiostandard|talk]])</font> 14:10, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:* [[File:Symbol delete vote.svg|16px]] Current refs seem weak to me; far too many self-published. I hadn't heard the term before, but if the topic is notable I'd expect to see, for example, at least a few books (from well-established scientific or philosophy publishing houses) entirely about the concept, perhaps in relation to positivism. &nbsp;–&nbsp;<font face="Cambria">[[User:Ohiostandard|<font color="teal">'''OhioStandard'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Ohiostandard|talk]])</font> 14:10, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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:*I'm sorry, but the hook doesn't make an awful lot of sense. What does "joint together" mean? And it seems there's some confusion between the class of torpedo boat and the specific example of it called "Acheron". Can I suggest the following:
::*'''ALT1:''' ... that of the two '''[[Acheron class torpedo boat]]s''' constructed, one was sunk to reclaim land in [[Sydney Harbour]] and one became a quarantine vessel? [[User:Reyk|<font color="Maroon">'''Reyk'''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Reyk|'''<font color="Blue">YO!</font>''']]</sub> 10:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:::[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] ALT1 approved and good to go - [[User:The Bushranger|The Bushranger]] <sub>[[User talk:The Bushranger|Return fire]]</sub><small><sup>[[User:The Bushranger/Pages Created|''Flank speed'']]</sup></small> 21:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


====Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster and its 20 sublists====
====Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster and its 20 sublists====

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 19

Toric code

  • ... that the toric code could be used for fault-tolerant quantum computation, with the highest known error threshold for a two-dimensional scheme?

Created by Woottonjames (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for not nominating earlier. I have been tweaking the article since its initial creation to ensure it is good enough.


Bubsy 3D

Created by New Age Retro Hippie (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've formatted the hook so that it has links and shows the new article in bold. I suggest you use the nomination guide for your next nomination to avoid these problems. Schwede66 17:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Age and size are fine. When I follow the reference, I get to see the games' score, but not that it is considered one of the worst video games of all times. In fact, when I browsed the website that holds those scores, I found this list, which appears to have scores far lower than Bubsy 3D. Can you please clarify, and find something that confirms the hook fact? Alternatively, you could come up with a different hook. Schwede66 18:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Super Skidmarks

  • ... that the video game Super Skidmarks allowed players to race caravans and wheeled cows?

Created by Bridies (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is there any real-world application/connection that can be applied to this hook?--NortyNort (Holla) 08:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Magazines commented on it, which I would have thought was enough. Alternatively something about the 8-player link mode would be fine I guess. bridies (talk) 09:48, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 ... that the ability to have eight people play simultaneously on Super Skidmarks “elevates the game to near divine status”?--NortyNort (Holla) 11:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you'd have to qualify that with "Amiga Power said..." It said that in 1995, I doubt it'd hold the same to be true now. I prefer the wheeled cows as the most amusing part of the game (said cows were on the front cover of the Mega Drive version) but I'm not too attached to a particular hook. bridies (talk) 09:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, well I am trying to apply some real-world context to the video game. Often, we have problems with hooks on fictional things, such as the story line in the game and more specifically, the wheeled cows. Any ideas?--NortyNort (Holla) 10:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would have though being the subject of secondary criticism would make it "real world" enough, at least something like "commentators praised racing game Super Skidmarks' inclusion of caravans and wheeled cows". The only physical thing pertinent to that would be the use of cows on the box art and advertising. With regards to the link feature, AP also said that because of the it, the game was "a LANDMARK in game history" (caps in original); but it just seems a bit hyperbolic (I haven't seen another review go that far, or even comment on the supposed uniqueness of the feature) and I'm not sure how we'd deal with the CAPS in the quote. bridies (talk) 14:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 20

I Hear You, I See You

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Damon J. Smith

Created by Taryndejesus (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 12:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • While the article is long and new enough, it doesn't seem to comply with WP:MOSBIO. I've added some tags to the article's discussion page to mark it as a BLP and link it to the Biography wikiproject, but the article itself needs tidying up as per WP:MOSBIO. Mattopaedia Say G'Day! 14:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry not to AGF here, but I think this article has a lot of issues. It uses an Amazon page to prove the existence of his book, it uses a Yahoo PR wire to talk about a different book. Other online sources merely mention his name but don't prove notability and often don't support the claim they're inlined to. The two sources that suggest they might have decent information are also the only two (out of 30!) that are offline. I'm sorry if I end up looking stupid here and I've made a mountain out of a mole hill, but I think this one needs to wait a while. Bigger digger (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Bridge in Curve

Created by Bigger digger (talk). Self nom at 01:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • It should be noted that hooks up to 200 characters are allowed, so the original hook looks okay. But how about ALT2: ... that Grace Cossington Smith's The Bridge in Curve was rejected from the 1930 Society of Artists exhibition but is now described as one of Australia's most significant modernist paintings? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Girvin

Created by SPat (talk). Self nom at 18:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very dull hook (saying that he is doing his job - many, many others are building quantum computers). Any chance for a more interesting one? Materialscientist (talk) 11:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I still think the first one is better. "Quantum computer" is still quite a buzzword right? SPat talk 12:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but merely saying that someone is building them is not. Materialscientist (talk) 00:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that Steven Girvin's group has successfully implemented quantum algorithms on a two-qubit quantum processor?

William VI of Montpellier

5x expanded by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 04:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook fact lacks a citation in the article. Yoninah (talk) 00:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General Union of Ecuadorian Workers

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 03:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Why is that significant? It seems like a long time. Grsz11 04:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's a curiosity of English idiom that "only after" means the opposite of "after only". Thus, the hook is expressing that existing for 12 years before being recognised, is indeed a long time. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook. But the bare URLs need to be formatted per WP:Citation templates before this nomination can be approved. Yoninah (talk) 00:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 21

2010–11 Kansas State Wildcats men's basketball team

Created by Topgun530 (talk), Editorofthewiki (talk). Nominated by Editorofthewiki (talk) at 23:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article comes in at 1,459 characters, short of the bare 1,500 minimum required for DYK. The article appears otherwise to be acceptable. Alansohn (talk) 16:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harold Greenwood (solicitor)

  • ... that Harold Greenwood, acquitted in 1920 of the murder of his wife, is a rare example of a lawyer charged with murder?

5x expanded by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 19:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • -Length and date and hook check out. Reyk YO! 11:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • After looking at the hook I took a look at the article and I'm not sure that the hook is properly supported by a reliable source. The assertion that the case "is a rare example of a lawyer charged with murder" is referenced in the article to a source about a different lawyer, Sally Clark. That source, which appears to be self published, contains an item that states "Less than a handful of solicitors in modern times have been charged with murder" from this source, but is that an adequately reliable source to base the claim?. The source doesn't provide any evidence that the percentage of lawyers being charged with murder is any less than that of say dentists or candlestick makers. There are plenty of other potential hooks in this juicy story of murder by arsenic poisoning and acquittal that would be better sourced. Alansohn (talk) 00:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That seems a tad cumbersome; however, I've found the original source from the Law Gazette (the official journal for UK solicitors, which says "Less than a handful of solicitors in modern times have been charged with murder - and only one was hanged, writes James Morton." "Cry freedom". www.lawgazette.co.uk. Retrieved 2010-10-27. {{cite web}}: Text "The Law Gazette" ignored (help). If that's considered adequate, I think the rarity may make this more interesting than the other hook, but I'll happily go with consensus. Rodhullandemu 18:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Wormsley

A small simple church seen from the south, with thin windows, a porch, a bellcote at the west end, and a short chancel

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The problem with ALT1 is that the link in the article does not actually say that they were (respectively) a classicist and a horticulturalist.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rescuecom Corp. v. Google Inc.

Seal of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit

5x expanded by Kaushik twin (talk). Self nom at 05:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Confession of 1967

  • ... that conservatives theologians believe the Confession of 1967 radically changed how the Presbyterian Church(USA) interpreted the Bible

Created by Hec7 (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not expanded fivefold recently. DYKcheck says 5x expansion began Oct 13, which is too long ago for DYK. For this to qualify would require a 5x expansion from the last edit on Oct 20 (UTC), per the listed date of this nomination. StrPby (talk) 08:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm with the Wikipedia Public Policy Institute at Georgetown University. I mistakenly went live early than the program requested and reverted by work that day. The page in its current form was officially posted on the 21st. I'm not sure if that makes a difference. Hec7 (talk) 18:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay. From what I can tell, the version from before you ever touched the article appears to have included two paragraphs quoted directly from a publication (i.e., a copyright violation, even in quote marks). Therefore I think it would be fair to ignore the rules and count from your version of 15 October, which reduced the article to around 1900 characters, without the copyright violation. The current version is expanded fivefold from that, so yes, expansion and date are clear. As for your hook and the article as presented, I'll leave that for another reviewer who's more knowledgeable in the area; I don't see this claim made directly in the article and referenced with an inline citation. That said, it's possible that the remainder of the article would be enough to back the claim up, so I'm deferring review on this nomination.
  • Also, please note that references come after punctuation, not before; please correct this in the article.
  • Expansion 5x: WP:IAR
  • Date of expansion:
  • Hook/article:
Strange Passerby (talkcstatus) 12:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 22

Harold Martin (New Jersey politician), 39th Legislative District (New Jersey)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fohoren

  • ... that Fohoren was one of the traditional kingdoms of Timor, which were ruled by a Liurai?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. But I can't find the reference in the citation provided. Also, there are too many red links in this article. Yoninah (talk) 21:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Li Jinglin

  • ... that the Chinese warlord Li Jinglin (1885-1931), nicknamed "China's First Sword," was a renowned swordsman and baguazhang martial artist?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 02:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Napki Malka

Napki Malka

Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


James v. Dravo Contracting Co.

Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 20:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thiokol-Woodbine Explosion

  • ... that all employees safely exited a magnesium tripflare production facility due to fire, but they remained nearby, unaware of danger; 29 were killed and 50 injured from the Thiokol-Woodbine Explosion?

Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 *... that when a stockpile of 56,000 magnesium tripflares caught fire at the Thiokol facility in Woodbine, the resulting explosion killed 29 workers who had evacuated the building, because they had not known to retreat to safe distance? DS (talk) 18:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cracow Bishops' Palace in Kielce

Main façade as seen from the Collegiate Church

or

Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC). Self nom at BurgererSF (talk) 16:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]

St Peter's Church, Northampton

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, Length, and hook verified. Best, Mifter (talk) 21:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hemigrapsus estellinensis

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook needs a direct citation, either in the lead or in the section under Biogeography. Miyagawa (talk) 22:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a hook in two parts, both of which are [now] cited inline. They are not stated exactly as in the hook, together, because the two facts belong in separate sections, and it would be inappropriate to force them together merely for the purposes of DYK. I trust that this will be acceptable. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:01, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretive science

Created by Terra Novus (talk). Self nom at 09:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting hook but the article is only 595 characters (85 words) "readable prose size", quotes don't count.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Current refs seem weak to me; far too many self-published. I hadn't heard the term before, but if the topic is notable I'd expect to see, for example, at least a few books (from well-established scientific or philosophy publishing houses) entirely about the concept, perhaps in relation to positivism.  – OhioStandard (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster and its 20 sublists

A smiling man in a baseball cap

5x expanded by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Notes: The main article here, Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster is a 5x prose expansion (even though it's now much smaller if you're counting bytes); the other 20 articles are brand-new sublists of the first. So the DYK credit would be for 21 separate articles... which I'm too lazy to list here.
  • Confirmed. The only question I have is why the N-O hook is the only of the multi-letter articles to get both letters a name. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because it's the only one of the multi-letter hooks that has multiple names in each letter. I can change it if you'd rather; am OK with either. — KV5Talk • 01:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. — KV5Talk • 01:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is so unusual about no last name starting with X? This is a really boring hook.RlevseTalk 00:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not surprised but since no player had a last name beginning with that letter, it is unique.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I and O are also missing so not that unique. Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Those letters are not missing. Follow the links and you will see that only X is missing. As I explained above, not all letters have multiple people with the same surname. — KV5Talk • 13:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Same for other MLB teams, too?
Also, I've trouble counting 21 "5X expansions" in this case of content forking/splitting. Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster was 5X expanded alright, but A to F together would only be a second 5X, but G to Z may or may not be a third 5X. The 20 identical first paragraphs should not be counted 20 times. --70.31.15.247 (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, same for other MLB teams. The other articles are not expansions. They are completely new articles, as I mentioned above. — KV5Talk • 18:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The West Hants Club

Created by 03md (talk). Self nom at 16:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Saving My Heart

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • - length, date, hook reference all check out. First Light (talk) 19:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Fall of Agadir

Areal view of Agadir

Created by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 23

United States Ambassador to the United Nations Agencies for Food and Agriculture

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self nom at 11:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J. B. Fagan

Created by Doug butler (talk), Ssilvers (talk). Nominated by Ssilvers (talk) at 23:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grosset Wines

  • ... that Jeffrey Grosset of Grosset Wines led a movement in the 1980s to stop Australian wines containing no Riesling grapes from using the word Riesling on their labels?

Created by Camw (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Galaxian 2

Created by Green Lane (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 18:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Citation confirmed, length, date etc checks out. Miyagawa (talk) 22:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Clayton Anderson

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James F. Neal

Created by Racepacket (talk). Nominated by Alansohn (talk) at 03:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cheese ripening

Created by Hongkongresident (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Cool hook, nice article, just the end of the "Process" section has no citation.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Otto Schimming

Created by Namiba (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Piccolo Quintet

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of UK charts and number-one singles (1952–1969)

A young man dancing, swiveling his hips. He has dark hair, short and slicked up a bit. He wears an unbuttoned band-collared jacket over a shirt with bold black-and-white horizontal stripes. Behind him, on either side, are a pair of barred frames, like prison doors.

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Wolke Hegenbarth

  • ALT1:... that Wolke Hegenbarth's father fought successfully in court to be allowed to give her her first name?
  • ALT2:... that Wolke Hegenbarth wanted to be a makeup artist instead of becoming an actress?

Created by SoWhy (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Yup. Length, date and all three hooks check out. Nice job. Reyk YO! 02:14, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amex House

A nine-storey office building with prominent white-panelled storey bands between blue-tinted windows. In the foreground is a white block with the American Express logo.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for article and hook have been confirmed. Sourcing for "Wedding Cake" nickname is online with "largest employer" accepted in good faith from an offline source. Alansohn (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Dypsis brevicaulis

Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I realized, after the fact, that this could be combined with a similar one I nominated for Oct. 24. I have no preference for either approach—do whatever works best for DYK. I'll add a similar note under Dypsis humilis.
Combination suggestions:
ALT1 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than sixty known specimens in the wild combined?
ALT2 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than fifty and ten known wild specimens, respectively? First Light (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cincinnati Riots of 1884

Ohio National Guard troops manning a barricade on Court Street looking towards the jail

Denis McDonough

5x expanded by BillyBoy01 (talk). Self nom at 18:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, sourcing and expansion for article and hook all check out. Alansohn (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints Church, Aldwincle

The tower of a stone church, seen from the west, at the top of which is a battlemented parapet with pinnacles. In front of the church and to the left is a lychgate

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • It has been suggested that this be moved to 1 November (All Saints Day). I have no strong feelings about this; there are already two churches with this dedication suggested for that day and I do not mind when it appears.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South West England

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd be OK with ALT1 except that the definition of South West England used in that article is different to the one used by the Churches Conservation Trust ie Gloucestershire is not included in the SW by CTT (which we are trying to stick to) & they include the 11 churches in Glos as part of the "Heart of England" (for which we haven't written the list yet).— Rod talk 09:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happy with ALT2 - I've added another ref (no 184) which makes this explicit. It was there in previous references but didn't as clearly support this fact.— Rod talk 15:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Victor Jackovich

5x expanded by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 14:52, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Gjesteby

  • ... that the removal of Omar Gjesteby as a union deputy leader in 1940 was partially investigated by his son some years later?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Olav Steinnes

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Bird (artist)

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nipple adenoma

  • ... that Nipple adenomas are rare benign growths in the nipple that can look like cancer?

Created by Mattopaedia (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fort de Loncin

  • ... that most of the approximately 300 Belgian soldiers killed in the explosion of the Fort de Loncin remain buried in the wreckage of the fort?

Created by Acroterion (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: I imported this article from the French Wikipedia on October 21, translated, edited and referenced it in my userspace and moved it into the English WP article space on October 23 - it's new to enwiki as of 10/23, but as an import retains its attribution tail from frwiki back to its creation there in 2005. Acroterion (talk) 03:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William White (New Zealand politician)

Tracks through Pleasant Point Station

  • Comment: Prose size after 1633 B; prose size before 121 B

5x expanded by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 02:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Betty Miller Unterberger

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of 1936 Winter Olympics medal winners

Created by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I know we've had GAs on DYK before, but I wonder what this will make it to first, FL status or the Main Page? :) On a more serious note, if it is promoted to FL before approval here, it wouldn't affect its eligibility, I hope. StrPby (talk) 06:32, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shimon Stein

  • ... that Shimon Stein, a former Israeli ambassador to Germany, and German chancellor Angela Merkel spent "a number of cozy evenings together drinking red wine"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length, referencing and creation date all OK; hook fact checks out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of World Heritage Sites in Cuba

A mountain line with a layer of fog in the background, and a grassy hill with a rustic hut are closer

  • ... that World Heritage Sites in Cuba include two national parks and examples of the island's historic tobacco and coffee economy (Viñales Valley pictured)?

Created by Grsz11 (talk). Self nom at 00:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Khedivate of Egypt

5x expanded by User:DCI2026 (talk page). Nominated by DCI2026 (talk page) at 18:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I significantly expanded an older, small stub article into a larger page. Is it still eligible for DYK?DCI2026 (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Porter (criminal)

Billy Porter from "Recollections of a New York Chief of Police" (1887)

Created by 129.10.105.90 (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 22:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on October 24

John Osborne Varian

Created by Montanabw(talk)). Self nom at 01:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Nominator's comment: See footnotes 2, 4, 5 and 6. Montanabw(talk) 01:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC) [reply]
  • info in hook must be immediately followed by a ref. (cowell, adams, klystron, etc RlevseTalk 09:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cincinnati Riots of 1836

British Engineerium

A one- and two-storey building of multicoloured brickwork with elaborate mouldings and decoration, with a large steam engine and many people in the grounds

  • ... that the British Engineerium (main building pictured), created by a steam enthusiast who started with £300, was later bought for £3 million by another enthusiast?
  • Comment: ALT hook or completely different hook suggestions welcome.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 12:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK, facts referenced but ref [9] "Collis 2010" needs the book adding to the bibliography. Mjroots (talk) 05:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oops – thanks for spotting that. Now added. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 07:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In which case, AGF on offline sources, good to go! Mjroots (talk) 07:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Federico Errázuriz Regional Institute

Front side of IRFE.

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 23:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


NSB Class 72

A four-car, silver and green electric multiple unit

  • ... that the NSB Class 72 trains could at first not be used on the high-speed Gardermoen Line because their electronics interfered with the signaling system?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Scanet

  • ... that Norway's train radio system Scanet was replaced by GSM-R after only 13 years of operation?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2011

Created by Joewelby2000 (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 18:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Washington State Route 225, Benton City – Kiona Bridge

Created by User:Admrbltz (talk). Self nom at 06:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Was it believed or is it believed? I am just trying to figure out whether this is present or past tense. I can't see the reference as well.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The quote, when Google Books loved me the other day was "is believed." For some reason the preview has changed today... Reworded --Admrboltz (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J. Milton Nance

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:46, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Consuelo Crespi

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bryant Moniz

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tobi Lark

  • ... that R&B singer Tobi Lark's most successful recording was issued under a different name, became very popular in Wigan, and has recently been compared to a Shakespeare sonnet?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venues of the 1956 Winter Olympics

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Don Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pauline Hall

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 18:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Vindex (1915)

A gray, two-funneled ship at sea

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 18:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Gervase Bennet

Created by Motmit (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BSA A65 Rocket

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 15:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Epic Horse

  • ... that each book in the Epic Horse series has a new protagonist and setting?

Created by Derild4921 (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Has a problem with criteria 3: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." The fact cited is at the end of a long paragraph. See if you can fix that. Montanabw(talk) 02:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done, same citation as the one at the end of the paragraph. Derild4921 18:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Justus Smith Stearns

Justus Smith Stearns

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:29, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bawean

The port of Bawean island, Indonesia, at sunset

  • ... that women constitute more than 75% of the actual population of Bawean island (pictured)?
  • Comment: See the lead or the end of "Etymology".

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]



Annie Meinertzhagen

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Michael and All Angels Church, Brownsover

A plain stone church, seen from the southwest, with a bell hanging from a gabled bracket on the west wall

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • As a member of WP:OXFORD, I boo; as a member of WP:ORGAN, I cheer! Image checks out, though one of the organ case would be even better. BencherliteTalk 23:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Brilliant suggestion. I've found one at Geograph. So how about:

A pipe organ in a church with an elaborately carved wooden case

  • for this for good measure. Now, if you could get a free-use sound file of someone playing the organ...? Good work. BencherliteTalk 21:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Makambako

  • ... that Paul Theroux described Makambako as "not a town but a collection of hovels on stretch of paved road where idle people sat or stood"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 11:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article looks OK. Quote is not quite worded the way it is in the book. Do you really want to use, for a DYK, such an "outsider's" perspective that provides quite a subjective, and negative, view of the city? Suggest an ALT hook that describes another aspect of Makambako. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Swithun's Church, Brookthorpe

A stone church seen from the southeast, showing the chancel, beyond which is a nave with a higher roof and a porch and, beyond that, a tower with a saddleback roof

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Shiva Thapa

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Simone Silva

Created by Draggleduck (talk). Self nom at 08:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to make this a pictured hook? The picture can be of the subject in that topless pose. Given that the subject is deceased, the picture can be used with a non-free fair use rationale. The topless picture will surely attract more views, but is it agreeable to use such pictures on the main page? Here's my alternate pictured suggestion. Thoughts?
ALT ... that when Simone Silva posed topless (pictured) at the 1954 Cannes Film Festival, two photographers broke their limbs in the scramble to get the best pictures? Mspraveen (talk) 15:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It can't be a pictured hook, since the main page can't use non-free images. Nor can this page, which is why DASHBot removed the file, leaving only a link. BencherliteTalk 21:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Forget the Bacon!

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 07:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aboriginal title in the Marshall Court

Portrait of John Marshall

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Internationalize, plz, and specify the U,S' chief justice. Circéus (talk) 07:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Broderick – Terry duel

Duel between Broderick and Terry

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Invertzoo (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When did they stop having "gunfights" in the West, surely thats a more hooky word? Victuallers (talk) 12:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was the last one. Could you please clarify. Are you suggesting to change the word "duel" to the word "gunfight"?--Mbz1 (talk) 13:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, a duel is a great deal more formal than a simple gunfight, a duel is planned in advance and has a whole lot of very strict rules. Unless you consider a duel with pistols to be a subspecies of gunfight? Duels were an arrangement between gentlemen to settle a question of honor, duels were not a shootout between gunslingers.Invertzoo (talk) 14:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dypsis humilis

Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 03:35, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I realized, after the fact, that this could be combined with a similar one I nominated for Oct. 23. I have no preference for either approach—do whatever works best for DYK. I've addded a similar note under Dypsis brevicaulis.
Combination suggestions:
ALT1 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than sixty known specimens in the wild combined?
ALT2 ... that two Critically Endangered palms in Madagascar, Dypsis brevicaulis and Dypsis humilis, have fewer than fifty and ten known wild specimens, respectively? First Light (talk) 16:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Margot Leverett

Created by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Contra Dam

A tall concrete structure in a cold location impedes the flow of a river and creates a lake.

  • ... that James Bond's leap off of the 220 m (720 ft) high Contra Dam (pictured) in the 1995 film GoldenEye was voted in 2002 as the best film stunt ever?

5x/self-nom--NortyNort (Holla) 05:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frankism

  • ... that Frankism, an 18th-century movement derived from Judaism, maintains that transgressing every boundary is one's most important personal responsibility?

5x expanded by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 06:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 25

Thomas Barrie, Cropping (punishment)

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Matengo people, Matengo Highlands

  • Comment: The people article is an expansion; the geo article is new.

Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 02:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Phallus calongei

Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Easby Cross

  • ... that a large fragment of the Northumbrian Easby Cross (triple view right) was over 1,000 years old when it was found built into a wall in a field?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 16:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • This had copyvio (and incorrect) material removed, reducing it to this, since when it has been expanded. But it is not 5x the copyvio version. I think such noms have been accepted in the past. Johnbod (talk) 16:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do It Again (George Gershwin and Buddy DeSylva song)

Created by Another Believer (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venues of the 1956 Summer Olympics

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cincinnati Riot of 1853

  • … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

    This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Betty S. Murphy

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd prefer to take out the part about the President insisting she was chosen for her qualifications and not for her sex. There's nothing in the article that implies Murphy was chosen for the position just because she was a woman, and if Ford had implied that she was chosen for her sex instead of her qualifications, that would have been a tremendous gaffe. Including "though President Gerald Ford insisted she was chosen for her qualifications and not for her sex" in the hook would imply, to me at least, that Wikipedia is expressing doubt about her qualifications for the position. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • At the risk of being presumptuous, I will suggest the following:
ALT: ... that Betty S. Murphy was the first woman to serve on and the first woman chair of the U.S. National Labor Relations Board, and the first woman to lead the Dept. of Labor's Wage and Hour Division? - Tim1965 (talk) 01:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Louisiana Highway 975

Created by Otr500 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 03:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • checks out. New article, good length, sources good. --Admrboltz (talk) 16:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antlia Dwarf

A Hubble Space Telescope image of the Antlia Dwarf Galaxy

  • ... that the Antlia Dwarf galaxy (pictured) may have distorted the shape of its neighbour NGC 3109 one billion years ago?

5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 00:08, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook reference, 5x expansion verified. You might add to the hook/article the fact that NGC 3109 is more massive than the Antlia Dwarf, according to the reference that you cited. James McBride (talk) 00:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Murray State Racers men's basketball

Created by Editorofthewiki (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christiane Kohl

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giacomo Conterno

Created by Murgh (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laxton's Superb (apple)

  • ... that Laxton's Superb is an apple species crossed between the Wyken Pippin × Cox's Orange Pippin by the Victorian plant breeder Thomas Laxton in 1897 in the town of Bedford, England?

Created by Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William G. Thompson

  • ... that Detroit mayor William G. Thompson was considerably pummeled in a sensational public fight with his brother-in-law, who accused him of talking about his wife in barrooms?

5x expanded by Andrew Jameson (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Phokas the Elder

5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 19:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5x expansion, length, date and hook verified. Toдor Boжinov 11:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pavor Nocturnus (Sanctuary)

Created by Matthew R Dunn (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Austroplatypus incompertus

Created by John Stephen Dwyer (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Austroplatypus incompertus forms colonies in the heartwood of Eucalyptus trees and is the first beetle to be recognized as a eusocial insect? --209.6.3.22 (talk) 04:23, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Burton B. Roberts

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Church of St. Mary of the Spring (Istanbul)

St. Mary of of the Source

Created by Alex2006 (talk) 11:27, 25 October 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 12:27, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I can verify that (AGF) no problem, but how about a more catchy hook? I could suggest something that includes our lad Simeon burning the church and his son Peter getting married there a few years later (something I did not know that I found very curious), but I'm not sure how much of a conflict of interest I have :) Nice article, by the way! Toдor Boжinov 15:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree with Todor. A royal wedding always makes for good headlines! ;) Constantine 16:47, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, alright then, here it is... I'm not perfectly happy with the wording, but feel free to edit and reword :) There's one more too. Toдor Boжinov 19:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that even though Simeon I of Bulgaria burned the Church of St. Mary of the Spring near the Byzantine capital Constantinople, his son Peter married the daughter of Romanos I Lekapenos there three years later?
ALT2: ... that each Byzantine empress coming to Constantinople for her wedding was received by her future spouse in the Monastery of the Spring?
  • Alex suggested a very interesting hook that he as the author would prefer, so here's my attempt to make it concise enough: Toдor Boжinov 10:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that according to a legend, a monk at the Monastery of the Spring near Constantinople only believed the conquest of the city after the frying fishes in his pan came to life and jumped in the water?

Paul Stagg, Amos Alonzo Stagg, Jr.

Created by Jweiss11 (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see a source for "legendary" – I can't find one in any of the (three) biographical articles linked in the hook. matt (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about "Hall of Fame" (i.e. College Football Hall of Fame and Basketball Hall of Fame) instead of "legendary". Jweiss11 (talk) 08:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo! Kids

  • ... that Yahoo! Kids, formerly known as Yahooligans!, is the oldest online search directory for children?

5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 09:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self nom at 08:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Both Bachmann and Emmer are current candidates for office, so I would advise that this DYK not run until November 3 or later (when the election will be over). But at the current pace that DYK hooks are being processed and running, that shouldn't be a problem, as long as nobody tries to put this hook on a faster track than usual. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ogden H. Hammond

Ogden H. Hammond

Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 06:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Driving club

  • … that one of the earliest driving clubs in Britain, the Bensington Driving Club, was also called the Black and White Club, after the Black Dog and White Hart public houses where it met?

    Me again. Uncle G (talk) 01:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Right and Left

painting of ducks being shot

  • ... that Winslow Homer's painting Right and Left (pictured) was named by a hunter who recognized the sportsman's achievement of killing two birds in succession with a double-barreled shotgun?

Created by JNW (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • A very important and interesting new article. Offline hook accepted in good faith. Great job in going above and beyond the call of duty to make the article much better than necessary for a DYK. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the comment. I've added an online cite that helps a bit, though it doesn't specify that the viewer was a hunter. Perhaps a bit more research.... JNW (talk) 00:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Ballad of Molly Mogg

Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 26

Dick Miles

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nunavut Day

  • ... that Nunavut Day, originally celebrated on April 1, was moved to July 9 in 2001 because the former date was not considered to be significant enough to the people of Nunavut?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 10:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oral Hildebrand

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 03:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Grannis

DEC Headquarters in Albany

5x expanded by Bearian (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Point Charles Light

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 22:55, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Both are OK, but I'd go with the former. The second is impressive, but requires contextual knowledge to know just how impressive. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 05:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1835 Concepción earthquake

5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blair-Dunning House

A three-part brick house with large chimneys

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 21:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Sources are split on this: see the end of the "Early history" section for two representatives, and the end of the "Recognition" for the third. Nyttend (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Source for this is at the end of the "Recognition" section. Nyttend (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Bossman

Created by Tone (talk). Self nom at 21:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I just nominated this myself, completely missed your nomination! Sorry about that, I've removed my nomination. The wording I suggested was:
Whichever wording is used is fine with me. The Celestial City (talk) 23:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Probably your wording is better. And thanks for all the work on the article ;-) --Tone 07:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

North Haven Mall

Created by Needscurry (talk). Self nom at 21:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aylesbury duck

Two white ducks

5x expanded by Iridescent (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Leo Cullum

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alexei Kudrin

Alexei Kudrin

5x expanded by Offliner (talk). Self nom at 19:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Colonia Tabacalera

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 17:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allan Rumbolt

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frerea

Frerea indica flower

  • ... that the succulent plant Frerea indica (pictured) was once on a list of the twelve most endangered plants on earth?

Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 15:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ælfric Cild

  • ... that Anglo-Saxon nobleman Ælfric Cild (floruit 975-985) married into the powerful family of Ælfhere, ealdorman of Mercia, and succeeded him in office before being expelled by the end of two years, leaving Mercia without ealdorman for nearly ten years.

5x expanded by Cavila (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taunton Town F.C.

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Roland

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 12:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diggers & Dealers

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Emperor of Exmoor

Created by Chzz (talk). Nominated by Kevin McE (talk) at 09:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 "... that the red stag Emperor of Exmoor" was Britain's largest known wild land animal with a mass of over 300 pounds (136 kg) and height of almost 9 feet (2.74 m)?" Jolly Ω Janner 18:33, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm certain that the AfD will be unsuccessfull. If any one wants to review it for DYK, please go ahead. Jolly Ω Janner 22:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming the AfD gets snowed as it should, good to go. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 22:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: I just closed the AfD as "speedy keep". --Pgallert (talk) 09:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note the only reason I didn't nominate this myself yet was, I was trying to get us a piccie. I see someone has now added a non-free one; I wrote to both League Against Cruel Sports and the photographer Richard Austin; League replied, and they don't have any suitably licenced pics; I haven't heard back from Mr. Austin yet. Chzz  ►  22:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Measurements on ALT text are based purely on estimate: the corpse was removed unmeasured, and there is no record that the animal was ever trapped for research. Kevin McE (talk) 07:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd avoid definite statements like ALT1's "was...the largest animal" - you may find sources that say that he was, but they seem to be journalistic manglings of an original statement along the lines of "he seems to be the biggest one we've seen in Exmoor, and the pasture there is as good as any red deer habitat, so he's got a good shot at being the biggest red deer in Britain". As has been said, he was never measured, so you can't really use words like "known" to indicate certainty - and also there may be bigger animals that are "known" to their landowners, but which the latter choose not to publicise, to prevent either poaching or the recent problems seen with tourists disrupting the New Forest rut. So I'd prefer the original hook, or something similar that emphasises the uncertainty. Le Deluge (talk) 09:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SS Empire Conveyor

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mary J. Rathbun

5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and age fine. Hook is in lead but unreferenced. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is, however, a citation in the section Publications, for the sentence "She wrote or co-wrote ... descriptions of 1147 new species ... as well as other nomenclatural novelties.", and another citation (to the same paper) for "In 1915, after her retirement, the Smithsonian Institution designated Rathbun an "Honorary Research Associate" ... ; she qualified for a Ph.D. at George Washington University in 1917." in the section Biography. --Stemonitis (talk) 08:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per WP:WIADYK: "The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation". Please amend. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:01, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • This hook comprises two facts, and each fact complies fully with WP:WIADYK. From the point of view of the article, it would not make sense to combine the two, although they combine well for a DYK hook, in my opinion. I respectfully request a second opinion. --Stemonitis (talk) 05:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is fine as it is, the thousand species are mentioned in the lead, but then referenced later on. Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#Other_additional_rules_for_the_article D2 says it is fine to do this. Should 1000 be changed to one thousand though? Smartse (talk) 12:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brooke Fraser discography

A woman with long black hair playing a guitar and singing in front of a microphone

  • Comment: Another image is available if this one is not appropriate

Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 07:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Tucana Dwarf

5x expanded by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 06:19, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sanctuary of Atotonilco

Portion of cieling with murals

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 02:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cyberwarfare in the People's Republic of China

Emblem of the People's Liberation Army

Created by User:Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Green tickY Added it. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 17:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I did wonder about this when approving it, but let it go. I support Circéus' change. Adabow (talk · contribs) 04:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 27

Orchids, My Intersex Adventure

Created by Ellemueller (talk). Nominated by Shearonink (talk) at 18:46, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Herbert (politician)

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Venues of the 1960 Winter Olympics

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


St Mary's Church, Shipton Solars

A small, simple church seen from a distance showing the nave with a single bellcote, and a smaller chancel beyond

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 14:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Booker T. Laury

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 14:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wendall Woodbury

Created by Scanlan (talk). Self nom at 12:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and sourcing for article and hook have been confirmed. Alansohn (talk) 16:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Solungen

  • ... that after the newspaper Solungen was merged into Glommendalens Social-Demokrat from 1915, the successor of the latter newspaper legally blocked the use of the newspaper name Avisa Solungen in 2008?

5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Troughman

Created by Fifelfoo (talk). Self nom at 10:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I tried searching for a picture, but it is probably highly culturally specific and unintelligible at 100px Fifelfoo (talk) 10:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alliance, Alberta

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 10:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isoetes eludens

Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 04:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. Nice hook, I've removed the link to gnamma though and linked rock pool directed to panhole which is where gnamma redirects. Smartse (talk) 12:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good change, thanks. First Light (talk) 14:38, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Klaxons discography

Two guitarists and a keyboard player are performing a song live on a stage lit by red and blue lights. A drumkit is visible in the background.

5x expanded by SteelersFan UK06 (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Olga Ivinskaya

Created by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For October 28, 1p.m. London time

Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note: All 6 articles in this hook have been worked on by both nominators in user space, and were moved to article space today. For ease of checking, this link from M-1 Global confirms the match ups and the championships each fighter holds, this link confirms that Grishin was replaced due to injury. Suggestions for alternative (shorter) hooks most welcome, we had trouble coming up with something sufficiently short that mentioned all seven fighters (Taisumov is not a new article). EdChem (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
More compact hook to consider... EdChem (talk) 19:30, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, M-1 Global's mixed martial arts world championships are being decided in the lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky v. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov v. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) v. Guram Gugenishvili) divisions?
ALT2: * ... that today in St. Petersburg, MMA bouts will determine M-1 Global's lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky v. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov v. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) v. Guram Gugenishvili) Champions?
ALT3: * ... that M-1 Global's lightweight (Artiom Damkovsky v. Mairbek Taisumov), middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov v. Rafał Moks) and heavyweight (Kenny Garner (replacing injured Maxim Grishin) v. Guram Gugenishvili) MMA Champions will be determined today in St. Petersburg?
In addition to EdChem's comments, I'd like to request the Oct 28, 1p.m. London time slot, due to the event starting at 11.30 EST that day. I think this would give the hook time to ....hook prior to the event starting and also cover a little bit during the event. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added ALT3 - shorter still, and brings the bolded names close to the start of the hook. I am comfortable with whichever of these the reviewers might feel is most suitable. EdChem (talk) 12:04, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For October 29, 1AM London time

Dragan Tešanović

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 22:04, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article makes no mention that it is his North American debut. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:05, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that undefeated MMA fighter Dragan "Gagi" Tešanović makes his North American debut tonight at the Bellator 34 event?
  • I've suggested a redraft to identify the sport and the event. I've also made changes to the article that address Adabow's concerns, I think. EdChem (talk) 06:42, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would've thought it was somewhat obvious from looking at the table. Regardless, thank you Ed for your help. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:10, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, also the 22nd Sunday after Trinity

Ich armer Mensch, ich Sündenknecht, BWV 55

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 12:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For 31 October, Hallowe'en

  • The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. My interpretation of whats happening is ... 1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page (ie here) 2. You may get some more macabre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get DYKtick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before Oct 31 we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s (so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally). 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For November 1, All Saint's Day

  • This is a holder for new or expanded articles for November 1, which is All Saint's Day.


All Saints Church, Highbrook; West Hoathly

A grey stone church with a tower and tall spire, set in a graveyard with many gravestones

  • Comment: Will try a 5x expansion of West Hoathly as well if time permits.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 15:16, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The hook and new article status of the church article are verified. Please drop me a note if you 5x expand West Hoathly. Smartse (talk) 15:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have bolded W.H. in the hook now, having completed an expansion and de-stubbing. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:49, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
5x expansion verified. Nice work Smartse (talk) 22:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All Saints Church, Buncton

Close-up view of a carved human figure with an indistinct face, standing with legs splayed and arms and hands pointing to its genitals, and surrounded by other carvings

  • Comment: Bit of an eye-opener... The Times ref (number [19]) relates.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Verified. I've removed "of unknown sex" as it makes it less catchy and added some wikilinks to the hook. Smartse (talk) 15:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

November 2, 1800 UTC

American Samoa constitutional referendum, 2010

The Coat of arms of American Samoa, with the words "Seal of American Samoa 17 April 1900" around the perimeter.

Created by Strange Passerby (talk). Self nom at 14:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This would be better on ITN, and is likely to go on there as its a national poll.Lihaas (talk) 13:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For November 3

Scott Ashjian

5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 05:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Because he is a candidate in a current election (early voting in Nevada starts tomorrow), I would oppose having a DYK about this person on the main page during the election season. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would support not including this DYK until at least after the election, if at all. Frankly, the DYK is not particularly interesting.--TM 02:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would be most unfortunate, as it would invalidate the DYK due to time since expansion. Perhaps you could suggest another hook. I dispute its not being "interesting", I think it is quite interesting indeed that it went all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court to determine the candidate would remain on the ballot. -- Cirt (talk) 06:14, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Except that Nevada has only two main levels of courts, the Nevada District Courts and the Supreme Court of Nevada. So many cases in the state courts where someone has to appeal will wind up before the state supreme court. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Initial report shown to be a bot error:

  • Prose size (text only): 10660 characters (1792 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article created by Kendrick7 on March 8, 2010
  • Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 76 edits ago on July 30, 2010
  • Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (78 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.
plus the other person's hook did not feature an ongoing election, this one is not new and fails 5x rule too.RlevseTalk 15:36, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Um, Rlevse, I've double-checked it against the article history and it does appear to have been expanded 5x. Strange Passerby (talkcstatus) 15:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've never seen DYKcheck that far off before, but I still think we shouldn't run this as it's directly about a pending election.RlevseTalk 15:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Choice of hook aside, date and expansion are fine. All suggested hooks are also supported in the article, including the two I put forward. I leave it to the final reviewer to pass the most suitable one. Strange Passerby (talkcstatus) 10:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. :) -- Cirt (talk) 10:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am disturbed by the possibility of using the Main Page (whether TFA, ITN, OTD, or DYK) to spotlight a specific candidate in an election on the day of, or immediately before the election. I think this problem arises even if the day is chosen coincidentally, but is all the more obvious with a "hold". Because the DYK process only vets articles for compliance with Wikipedia policies like neutrality at the most basic level, this presents an opportunity for partisans to use Wikipedia as a political ad. The easiest way to prevent this (and the only feasible way given the realities of Wikipedia), is just to not run such hooks right before an election. Even if the article is neutral, well-referenced, etc., the prominence of the main page seems to provide an undue level of spotlighting, almost like an endorsement or lopsided voters guide. As for this specific hook, I recommend that it be run well in advance of, or after the election. For example, for the 2008 presidential election, both Obama and McCain were run as TFA; I strongly doubt that we would have run either article alone, even if only one of the articles was featured. Savidan 19:45, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This is proposed to be run on the date November 3, 2010, the day after the election. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For November 24, 2010, Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 ‎

5x expanded by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Late December 2010

Mark Miodownik

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
    Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
    --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. SilverserenC 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? SilverserenC 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Arsenikk. The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See also