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January 23

Portal:Current events/2024 January 23

January 23, 2024 (2024-01-23) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks on civilians in the Russian invasion of Ukraine Six civilians are killed and at least 77 others are injured by a Russian missile strikes in Kyiv and Kharkiv. Ukraine says that it shot down 21 of 41 missiles. (AP) (BBC News) Military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War Germany announces that it will donate six SH-3 Sea King helicopters to the Ukrainian Air Force to help it patrol the Black Sea. (Reuters) Israel–Hamas war Battle of Khan Yunis Twenty-one Israeli soldiers are killed in an explosion and subsequent building collapse in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip, making it the deadliest day for the Israel Defense Forces since the ground invasion began. (Sky News) M23 rebellion Nineteen people are killed and 26 more injured during the explosions of mortar bombs in the town of Mweso in North Kivu, Democratic Republic of the Congo. The March 23 Movement is blamed for the attack. (AP) Arts and culture North Korea demolishes the Arch of Reunification in Pyongyang after North Korean leader Kim Jong Un ruled out peaceful reunification with South Korea. (NDTV) Disasters and accidents 2024 Uqturpan earthquake A magnitude 7.1 earthquake strikes Uqturpan County, China, killing three people and injuring five more. Tremors are felt in the nearby Kazakhstan, in which 67 people have been injured in Almaty. Forty-seven buildings in China collapsed, while a further 78 are damaged. (AP) (Nur.kz) A small passenger plane carrying workers to Rio Tinto Alcan's Diavik Diamond Mine, in Canada's Northwest Territories, crashes in the town of Fort Smith, killing six people and wounding another. (CBS News) Three people are killed and 11 are injured when a gas truck collides with a car in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia. (ABC) International relations Enlargement of NATO Sweden–NATO relations Turkey's Grand National Assembly approves Sweden's NATO membership bid. (CNN) Law and crime 2024 German anti-extremism protests Germany's Federal Constitutional Court rules that the National Democratic Party of Germany will be prohibited from receiving funding as an extremist organisation, the first time the constitutional provision has been enforced since its establishment in 2017. (Politico) A woman is killed while her husband and their daughter, all FNSEA members, are injured after a car crashes into a roadblock in Pamiers, France, at a protest for better pay and against excessive regulation. (AP) The National Telecommunications Commission of the Philippines orders the indefinite suspension of the broadcast operations of Sonshine Media Network International citing the network's failure to comply with an earlier suspension order. (Rappler) The Senate of the Philippines' committee on women conducts a public hearing regarding the alleged abuses within the Kingdom of Jesus Christ. Three women, two Ukrainian nationals and one Filipino, accuse church leader Apollo Quiboloy of sexually abusing them. (CNN Philippines) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election 2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries The 2024 New Hampshire Democratic presidential primary is held. Joe Biden's name does not appear on the ballot due to a scheduling dispute between the Democratic National Committee and the state government. (CBS News) 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries The 2024 New Hampshire Republican presidential primary is held. Donald Trump is projected to win the primary by the Associated Press, NBC News, and The New York Times. (CNN) (Fox News) (AP) (NBC News) (The New York Times)

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Arch of Reunification demolition

Article: Arch of Reunification (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Arch of Reunification (pictured) in North Korea is demolished. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The North Korean government demolishes the Arch of Reunification (pictured).
News source(s): Reuters, Forbes, NK News
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Demolished some time between 19 and 23 January, but reported today. Rather a historical move, regardless of further developments. Brandmeister^talk 21:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Charles Osgood

Article: Charles Osgood (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 20:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 Uqturpan earthquake

Article: 2024 Uqturpan earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A 7.1 magnitude earthquake occurs in Uqturpan County, Xinjiang, China. (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Quake1234 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit) and Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

7.1 magnitude earthquake. Minimal damage so far, but notable based on the size of the quake. Natg 19 (talk) 08:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

oppose per “minimal damage”. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

No one's even died in this earthquake, so I oppose. Quake1234 (talk) 10:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - ITN isn't a natural disaster ticker. Good faith nom, but not notable PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose not notable as per above, minimal damage and death. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose agreeing with the sentiments above ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose no one died Setarip (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

But the casualties have been updated, that 3 peoples died. Are you still going to oppose? Bakhos2010 (talk) 15:52, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Three unfortunate deaths, but too few to be ITN-interesting. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - The region where the earthquake took place was somewhat rural and had minimal impact on humanity. CollationoftheWilling (talk) 15:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment—The Chinese province of Yunnan was beset by a landslide yesterday, which resulted in the deaths of no less than 30 people. It doesn't seem like there's been any confirmation that this landslide is a direct result of the 7.1 earthquake, but if it does turn out that they are related, we should probably consolidate the two events into a single blurb. Thoughts?

January 22

Portal:Current events/2024 January 22

January 22, 2024 (2024-01-22) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis 2024 missile strikes in Yemen The United States and United Kingdom launch new airstrikes on Houthi military infrastructure in Yemen, including an underground storage site, anti-ship missiles, and radars. The UK confirms that four RAF Typhoons took part in the strikes. (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy signs a decree recognizing some Russian territories, including parts of Bryansk Oblast and Krasnodar Krai, as historically inhabited by Ukrainians. (The Kyiv Independent) Arts and culture Ayodhya dispute Ram Mandir Prana Pratishtha The Ram Mandir temple in Ayodhya, Uttar Pradesh, India, is inaugurated by India's prime minister, Narendra Modi. (CNN) Disasters and accidents At least 18 people are killed after a truck plunged into a ravine in Kasangulu, Kongo Central, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) A landslide in Zhaotong, Yunnan, China, kills at least eight people and buries 47 others. Over 200 people are evacuated. (CNA) A helicopter carrying seven people crashes in Terrace, British Columbia, Canada, leaving 3 dead and 4 others injured. (Reuters) Law and crime Seven people are killed in two separate shootings at two homes in Joliet, Illinois, United States. Later the same day, the suspect fatally shoots himself in Texas. An eighth person was also killed by the same gunman a day before. (BBC News) Standoff at Eagle Pass Governor of Texas Greg Abbott refuses to follow a court order allowing Border Patrol agents to enter Shelby Park, an area in the town of Eagle Pass which the Texas National Guard had seized control over earlier this month. (The Independent) Politics and elections Joseph Boakai is inaugurated as President of Liberia, succeeding outgoing president George Weah. (BBC News)

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RD/Blurb: Norman Jewison

Article: Norman Jewison (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Flibirigit (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit), The One I Left (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Notable director, some citations still needed. Flibirigit (talk) 21:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb. Very influential film director, was nominated for Oscar staggering seven times and won Thalberg Award. Won other important honours — BAFTA, David Donatello Award, Berlin Silver Bear and others. Made Fiddler on the Roof, Moonstruck, and In the Heat of the Night, the latter starring Sidney Poitier and being the staple of anti-racism work. From Guardian obit by Peter Bradshaw — "For five extraordinary decades, Norman Jewison’s film-making was the beating heart of Hollywood drama: he could do anything and supercharged it with idealism, confidence and style. Jewison has been behind an extraordinary array of classics and hits: for half the time the cinema has been in existence, Norman Jewison was the gold standard of a night at the movies." In Thomas Crown Affair and Cincinnati Kid "he invented the stylish presence of Steve McQueen"[3]. Kirill C1 (talk) 17:07, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. This is exactly what RD is for. He was nothing like important enough for the blurb. Nigej (talk) 17:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Gigi Riva

Article: Gigi Riva (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): la Repubblica
Credits:

• Nominated by Martin Mystère (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Considered to be one of the best players of his generation, as well as one of the greatest strikers of all time. --Martin Mystère (talk) 19:47, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support most definitely, as a fellow Italian! I must address, though, that the "Club career" section needs to be cleaned up of some really sketchy sourcing: I hope I'll be able to help myself. Still, what a terrible loss... Oltrepier (talk) 21:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - heavily sourced! ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Looks good enough to me. Nigej (talk) 17:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Dexter King

Article: Dexter King (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Roc0ast3r (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American activist and youngest son of Martin Luther King Jr.  RONIN  TALK  19:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support - A few bits still need citations (working on it). Funcrunch (talk) 21:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - article looks much better than it did earlier. Good enough to go now I think ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

(ready) Ram Mandir

Article: Ram Mandir (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ram Mandir is consecrated at Ram Janmabhoomi at Ayodhya in India. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ram Mandir is consecrated at the disputed Ram Janmabhoomi at Ayodhya in India.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Ram Mandir temple is consecrated at the disputed Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya, India.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A temple to Rama (pictured) is consecrated at his disputed birthplace in India.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ A temple to Rama (pictured) is consecrated at his birthplace in India.
News source(s): Hindu Hindustan Times Times of India NBC CNN CNN BBC Independent Reuters Bloomberg Bloomberg Washington Post Washington Post Foreign Policy Wall Street Journal Wall Street Journal Strait Times New York Times New York Times RFI Al Jazeera Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by theTigerKing (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Needs some updating post it's actual consecration that happens in exact 4 hours from now

Significant religious event that marks the culmination of long drawn movement to build the Ram temple in India. It's history has been mired in long drawn legal battles that has spanned over more than 200 years in 2019. Hailed as an event of lifetime for the fellow Indians, was also a political movement for many organizations based out of India. Has been covered in epic proportion by the media from all around the world. Regards, theTigerKing  03:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait Once the event is completed and necessary updates are made to the article, we can put it up on ITN. Leoneix _(talk) 05:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support to Alt blurb and alt blurb 3. Leoneix _(talk) 04:19, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• We posted the court decision to allow the building, and also the start of the building. Stephen 05:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - It has been inaugurated. Interesting story that I hadn't heard of until now PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Needs work To understand the significance, see Why India’s New Ram Temple Is So Important. But the main article has future tense statements which may now be in the past or present. And the proposed blurbs try to cram in too many links to other articles. But none of them have the essential English word "temple" which is needed as context for the general reader. An image is needed too but I'm adding one now. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support per above; I have also added another altblurb taking into account Andrew Davidson's comment as well as ITN wikilink conventions. DecafPotato (talk) 10:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Mandir and temple mean the same Regards, theTigerKing  15:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC) 10:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, however "Mandir" may be unfamiliar to the general English-speaking audience expected on the front page of Wikipedia. DecafPotato (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Opposition by formality We have already posted the groundbreaking ceremony in August 2020. No need to post its inauguration. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability The inauguration itself is massively important, and the fact that we posted about it 4 years ago doesn't mean it isn't in the news today. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 11:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Altblurb3 I think it's the clearest at explaining the importance of the event to a global audience. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Is it Ram Mandir or "The Ram Mandir"? The article has "The Ram Mandir" but the blurb just has "Ram Mandir." QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 14:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:ARBIP
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Support - This is a major symbolic topic for Hindus and has been a major agenda in politics for many years, with the version of "Ram Mandir is consecrated at Ayodhya in India." I oppose using the "dispute" word because it's too unclear as to what is actually disputed because it's no worse than Temple Mount in Jerusalem which is actually disputed, and the argument in this debate seems to be more about how to apply property law to the site. CollationoftheWilling (talk) 12:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC) There seem to be several disputes including: Was this really the birth place of Rama? Is his name Ram or Rama? The exact history of the site and its previous mosque/temples The credit for making this happen The implications of the event – is this the Ram Rajya? On Wikipedia the topic is subject to WP:ARBIP sanctions and especially extended confirmed protection. So, the opinions of new editors should perhaps be discounted. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC) His name is Rama if transliterated from Sanskrit and Ram if transliterated from Hindi. See the third paragraph of this page: Schwa deletion in Indo-Aryan languages. --84.252.98.62 (talk) 14:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC) So, what does that make it in English? Currently, the English-language Wikipedia is going with Rama, just like Krishna and Yoga. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC) In my experience, Ram, Krishan, Yog is more common in North India while Rama, Krishna, Yoga is more common in South India (specifically Dravidian language speakers) and in Europe/US. --84.252.98.62 (talk) 15:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC) The questions asked seems to relevant (Ram or Rama and so on ); either we declare them in the beginning and use them consistently thereafter to mantain the flow and avoid confusion to the readers of the articles.Regards, theTigerKing  15:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC) Also I would also add that "Rama" seems to be the most common in East Asia and South East Asia as well. In fact I have always heard the term as Rama and not Ram except in the context of the Ram Temple. CollationoftheWilling (talk) 17:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC) Why is this related to India vs Pakistan? There was a mosque on the site but that's related to Indian Muslims. Indian Muslims don't identify any more with Pakistanis than they do with Persians or Arabs, similar to Indonesians relationship with Arabs. CollationoftheWilling (talk) 16:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC) India/Pakistan/Afghanistan as a whole is designated as a CTOP, regardless of whether this article has anything to do with more than one. The Kip 18:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC) 1. You could make a similar argument about anything related to history, mythology and religion. The original use of Stonehenge is disputed for example. Did Jesus exist? etc... 2. Ram and Rama are the same word. It's no difference to Jesus and Yesus. 3. Scientifically there is no dispute about what was there. As to who should be allowed to use it is a case for property law. 4. I think there is virtually no dispute about who is taking credit for this in the eyes of the Indian public; the right wing is viewed as supporting the Mandir and the left wing as opposing the Mandir. 5. There is no discussion about the Ram Rajya. It's seen as a milestone in the political conflict between Hindus and Muslims, and the aftermath of removing the negatives of colonialism for the Hindu side. 6. This is more related to the Hindu - Muslim conflict than anything to do with Pakistan. Rama is important for Buddhists and Jains to, and is widely understood in countries like Nepal, Burma and Sri Lanka. Pakistan should not have a big say in this article. CollationoftheWilling (talk) 17:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

CommentWould rather not recommend the word "dispute" in the blurb considering it has been "resolved" by the final authority which is the Supreme Court of India and "Accepted to" by all the parties involved. Period! Regards, theTigerKing  15:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support the alt blurbs Surely the news here is the "dispute", otherwise I don't see this as any different to any other temple/church/whatever opening around the world. Nigej (talk) 16:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment - The main article was super unstable and is currently under full protection due to persistent editwarring and content dispute. Multiple discussions are underway right now for the resolutions. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support to the "Alternative blurb". The event is notable on its own despite we posting about the groundbreaking 3 years ago. But the full protection on the page makes it difficult to copy edit it. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 17:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support as per nom, the consecration ceremony was completed. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Support, per above. This has received significant coverage and is definitely notable. Article needs minor updates but don't see anything that should prevent us from posting. Schwinnspeed (talk) 18:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb 1, but should it be "The Ram Mandir" not "Ram Mandir"? Not sure. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 18:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Would recommend NOT posting Alt Blurb 3. The original blurb or Alt. blurb 2 would suffice - the land itself is the reason behind the long and ongoing dispute. The way Alt Blurb 3 reads, it oversimplifies the dispute by narrowing it down to a single argument (ie., whether its his birthplace or not) Schwinnspeed (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb1 The construction of Ram's Temple is internationally defined by how it was hotly contested for decades, highlighted by how many articles covering this ceremony discussed it to various lengths. To downplay or ignore it is ludicrous and (ironically) pretty biased. Mount Patagonia (talk • contributions) 21:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb2 I'm unfamiliar with a lot of Indian current events, so I'm not the best judge of notability, but from my brief look at the article, I think it deserves a place in ITN. I specifically support Alt2 because it specifies what type of site it is to the uninitiated (yes, it's repetitive for people familiar for the topic) and it also mentions that the birthplace is disputed. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt3 It is short, acknowledges the question on the site's history but without touching onto anything overly controversial. --Masem (t) 05:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt3 , given the immense coverage in news and article receiving over a million views in just a span of a week. [4]Ratnahastin (talk) 05:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Blurb, i.e. Ram Mandir is consecrated at Ram Janmabhoomi at Ayodhya in India. The dispute ceased to exist after Supreme Court ruling. Even the legal parties don't call it a dispute any longer after they got alternative land for mosque. ShaanSengupta^Talk 05:36, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT2. AryKun (talk) 05:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Blurb, main one. Satisfies ITN and other guidelines; no longer a disputed site since the SC verdict. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support ALT3, as this is the clearest. The blurb should explain why it's disputed, but the event is definitely noteworthy and in the news enough. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• I think Alt3 is likely the most appropriate and concise. The article on the dispute itself seems to me to be detailed and of high-quality. Bolding Ram Janmabhoomi would be appropriate if that article had been more thoroughly updated, but it isn't. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support, but we need to include that it was constructed on the site of a mosque destroyed by rioters - absent that background it would not be receiving the level of international coverage it is receiving. BilledMammal (talk) 11:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt or Alt2, not the original blurb or Alt3 As BilledMammal says above, unless we mention the extremely controversial aspect of it being built, the reader has no idea why the story is prominent in the news at all (because it wouldn't really be that important). Black Kite (talk) 11:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support It feels like the landmark event for India's descent into religious fascism. Must be why it's getting worldwide interest. I am not happy with any of the blurbs. I would suggest people who know good English and good blurb turn the following into a something usable: Ram Mandir is consecrated at the site of the demolished Babri Mosque at Ayodhya in India. Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:28, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt1 or Alt2 These blurbs do the best job of describing the dispute. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment The addition of the word - once disputed should solve the discussion and will also be aligned with the status quo. Regards, theTigerKing  13:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• "Once disputed" suggests it isn't disputed any more, which is clearly not the case. Black Kite (talk) 14:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb with the suggestion that we change it to "Ram Mandir is consecrated at the disputed site Ram Janmabhoomi at Ayodhya in India" ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment & added alt blurb 4 Added alt blurb 4 since the contention that the birth place is contentious is in itself heavily contentious. Support alt blurb 4 (I've already voiced my geneeral support above), also marking this as ready since it's clearly ready for posting. 28 supporting votes to only ONE (1!) opposing vote. Kasperquickly (talk) 15:24, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment the thing that makes this notable is the demolition of the mosque and the involvement of Indian political parties in it. Any blurb needs to mention and link to the demolition of the mosque as well. Secretlondon (talk) 15:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

  not really, i didnt even hear about the moscue at all and im from india :) Kasperquickly (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

January 21

Portal:Current events/2024 January 21

January 21, 2024 (2024-01-21) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine The Ust-Luga Multimodal Complex in Leningrad Oblast is hit by a drone attack, causing a large fire. Russian gas producer Novatek subsequently suspends all operations at the complex in response to the attack. Ukraine claims responsibility. (NOS) (Reuters) (Kyiv Post) Eastern Ukraine campaign At least 27 people are killed by alleged Ukrainian artillery strikes on Donetsk, according to Russian-appointed local officials. Donetsk People's Republic leader Denis Pushilin declares a day of mourning in response. Ukraine denies responsibility.(AP) (Reuters) Somali civil war American military intervention in Somalia The United States Africa Command says a U.S. drone strike has killed three al-Shabaab militants near Kismayo, Somalia. The strike was carried out at the request of the Somali government. (Africa News) Mexican drug war At least 12 gunmen are killed by security forces on a highway in Sonora, Mexico, during a failed attempt to rescue the son of a prominent Sinaloa Cartel hitman from police custody. Two officers are also injured in the shootout. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2023–24 North American winter The death toll from the ongoing winter storms in the United States increases to 89, with most of the deaths reported in Oregon and Tennessee. (BBC News) Law and crime A soldier opens fire upon fellow soldiers at a barracks in Kerman, Iran, killing five. The suspect is arrested. (AP) (RFE/RL) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election 2024 Republican presidential primaries Florida governor Ron DeSantis ends his presidential campaign and endorses former President Donald Trump. (Fox News) 2024 German anti-extremism protests Organising groups Campact and Fridays for Future say that 1.4 million people protested against the Alternative for Germany party in 100 cities across Germany following the meeting of right-wing extremists at Potsdam in 2023. (Agence France-Presse)

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RD: Roger Rogerson

Article: Roger Rogerson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.smh.com.au/national/corrupt-former-police-officer-roger-rogerson-dead-at-83-20240119-p5eyqq.html https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-22/former-nsw-detective-roger-rogerson-dies-aged-83/102683994
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Australian police officer. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 08:11, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

January 20

Portal:Current events/2024 January 20

January 20, 2024 (2024-01-20) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Iraqi conflict Attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria The United States Central Command says that a ballistic missile attack by Iranian-backed militias on Al-Asad Airbase in Al Anbar Governorate, Iraq, has injured several U.S. troops and at least one Iraqi soldier. (BBC News) United States–Houthi conflict 2024 missile strikes in Yemen United States Navy F/A-18s operating from the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower aircraft carrier carry out another wave of airstrikes on Houthi missile launchers in Yemen, with explosions reported in Al Hudaydah. (The Times of Israel) Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war An Israeli airstrike targeting a building in Damascus, Syria, kills five members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including general Sadegh Omidzadeh. (Al Jazeera) (SOHR) Israel–Hezbollah conflict Israel launches an airstrike against a vehicle in Tyre, Lebanon, killing two Hezbollah members, including commander Ali Hudruj, and two other people in a nearby orchard. (Al Arabiya) Disasters and Accidents Yingcai Boarding School fire Thirteen third grade children are killed and another child is injured in a fire at a boarding school dormitory in Dushu, Henan Province, China. The school's director has been arrested. (CNA) Badakhshan Dassault Falcon 10 crash A Dassault Falcon 10 jet carrying six people and flying between Thailand and Russia crashes in the Badakhshan Province of Afghanistan. Two people are killed and four more are rescued. (AP) At least 60 people have been killed across the United States after two weeks of storms caused dangerous road conditions and significant power outages. (NBC News)

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RD: Piedad Córdoba

Article: Piedad Córdoba (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)

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Prominent Colombian politician: deputy between 1992 and 1994, senator between 1994 to 2010, and presidential candidate in 2018. --NoonIcarus (talk) 03:02, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• There are currently two "citation needed" templates that should be resolved before posting. 70.181.1.68 (talk) 17:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: David L. Mills

Article: David L. Mills (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

• Nominated by BreMea (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Xibe (talk · give credit)

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David Mills, creator of NTP, among many other internet things. This is my first time nominating, so apologies if I missed something. BreMea (talk) 20:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait The article is in generally good quality, but has a couple of cns. It should be good to post once the cns are dealt with. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - Well-sourced article of decent quality. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment I'd like to see the lead expanded with what he's notable for, without having to add the {{lead too short}} tag. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

January 19

Portal:Current events/2024 January 19

January 19, 2024 (2024-01-19) (Friday) Business and economy American sports publication Sports Illustrated lays off the majority of its staff after its publishing license is revoked by the Authentic Brands Group, the owner of the SI brand. (ABC News) Disasters and accidents More than 70 people are killed during the collapse of a gold mine in Kangaba, Mali. (Al Jazeera) Six people are killed and many more injured after traffic collisions across Guinea during celebrations over the national football team's victory against Gambia during a 2023 Africa Cup of Nations match. (AP) International relations Korean conflict, North Korea and weapons of mass destruction North Korea announces that it has tested a nuclear weapon delivered by an unmanned underwater drone system in the Sea of Japan. (Reuters) The European Court of Human Rights announces that the Republic of Ireland has launched legal action against the United Kingdom over a law that gives amnesty to soldiers and militants involved in decades of violence in Northern Ireland. (Reuters) Law and crime 2023–2024 Japanese slush fund scandal Several Liberal Democratic Party lawmakers are indicted in a scandal involving misuse of campaign funds, including incumbent lawmakers Yasutada Ōno and Yaichi Tanigawa, both of whom resign from the party following their indictments. (Kyodo News) The Seiwa Seisaku Kenkyūkai, Kōchikai, and Shisuikai factions of the Liberal Democratic Party all announce their intention to dissolve as a result of the scandal. (Nikkei Asia) 2024 Ecuadorian conflict Argentina deports eight Ecuadorians, including relatives of gang leader José Adolfo Macías Villamar, who were arrested yesterday amid the ongoing conflict in Ecuador. (Reuters) Mexican drug war José Alberto García Vilano, a leader within the Gulf Cartel, is arrested in Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mexico. (BBC News) Pork barrel scam Philippine Senator Jinggoy Estrada is found guilty on charges of bribery, but acquitted on charges of plunder, over the use of the Priority Development Assistance Fund. Estrada is sentenced to eight to nine years for direct bribery and two to three years for indirect bribery, and is also ordered to pay a fine of more than US$50,000. (Rappler) Four people are found dead at a residential property in Costessey, Norfolk, United Kingdom. Norfolk Constabulary confirms they received an emergency call from the property, which they ignored, and has referred itself to the Independent Office for Police Conduct. (BBC News) Science and technology The JAXA lunar probe SLIM achieves the first-ever lunar soft landing of a Japanese spacecraft. (BBC News)

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RD: Ewa Podleś

Article: Ewa Podleś (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TNYT
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Legendary Polish ccloratura contralto, rare voice type, international performances and recordings. - There was a detailed article, but without using GSL. The focus was on the Metropolitan Opera where she appeare (too) soon, and then not for decades. Most old refs didn't work anymore. She made tons of recordings, none had a ref, but now only few are missing one. Someone with time can search further, but we could also drop the few without harm. I can't access TNYT, but it tells me off her status. There should be more reviews but I'm on vacation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Raymond Apple

Article: Raymond Apple (rabbi) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.australianjewishnews.com/rabbi-raymond-apple-passes-away-in-jerusalem/
Credits:

• Updated by SuzieMillen (talk · give credit)

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One of Australia's highest profile rabbis and the leading spokesman for Judaism in Australia. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 08:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Marlena Shaw

Article: Marlena Shaw (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Times, Billboard
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:292A:99E6:CD1D:8006 (talk · give credit)

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American singer best known for "California Soul". 240D:1A:4B5:2800:292A:99E6:CD1D:8006 (talk) 16:55, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Jack Burke Jr.

Article: Jack Burke Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Nigej (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Only a few unsourced comments remain, which probably shouldn't hold up posting. I'll try to plug the holes anyway. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:37, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Burke Jr. was the winner of two majors, the 1956 Masters Tournament, and the 1956 PGA Championship, and was that last living PGA winner in the Match Play era, and last winner of the Masters from the 50s. He was also the first known Major Winner to turn 100. Based on above, Support once fixed TheCorriynial (talk) 01:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

  It should be good to go now. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mary Weiss

Article: Mary Weiss (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR Yahoo News
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

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Mary Weiss, lead singer of The Shangri-Las. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:04, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support I can't complain. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:33, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Pluto Shervington

Article: Pluto Shervington (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Gleaner
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Martinevans123 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Jamaican reggae musician, singer, engineer and producer. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - Article has two minor CN tags, but overall looks to be in good shape. The Kip 22:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Support CN tags have been resolved, good to go. The Kip 22:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, so it does. Who could have added those. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:22, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: The Soft Moon

Article: The Soft Moon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pitchfork
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

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Thriley (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose - massive amount of uncited material. The Kip 22:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

It also appears that @Humanlikeu, the article's main author, was Vasquez himself (per early edit summaries), which makes me question the article's content as a whole. It seems he never received a CoI warning. The Kip 22:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Good catch! Thriley (talk) 20:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per above - article was probably edited by the subject himself, double orange tags, and quite a bit of stuff is uncited. qw3rty 18:59, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Smart Lander for Investigating Moon

Article: Smart Lander for Investigating Moon (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ JAXA's SLIM lunar module successfully lands on the moon. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ JAXA's SLIM lunar module successfully lands on the moon, though it struggled with solar power issues once deployed.
Alternative blurb II: ​ JAXA's SLIM lunar module successfully lands on the moon, after struggles with solar power issues.
News source(s): CNBC, CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Needs some updating Masem (t) 16:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle, but the history section uses future tense for past events. That should be fixed before posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait - Pretty tense atm. JAXA has lost contact with SLIM, we're still awaiting details... PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait to know if it's past tense or pretty tense. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 16:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait I checked over and the sourcing seems good. (not just a lack of CN tags, but nothing that should merit them as well) Orange tag is about the status... For which there are no sources. So it's impossible to actually give an answer on whether it succeeded at a soft landing or not for the time being. Once JAXA provide an answer one way or the other, it can be updated to reflect this, and then would be ready to post. Nottheking (talk) 17:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Wait status is still unclear. JAXA will hold a conference soon. We should wait for that. Harvici 17:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

STRONG SUPPORT - IT MADE IT!! Though the solar panels are pretty busted, still notable PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb wording Support in principle, but the wording of the blurb needs to reflect the solar panels/electricity issue. Nigej (talk) 20:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I don't really think we need to clarify as it was considered a successful landing, but I have given an altblurb to reflect the power issues. --Masem (t) 22:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  I've added a more concise altblurb --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Congratulations! A few copyedits left to fix the future tense but that should be good, and yes I agree that the blurb can be improved. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 21:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support per all above. The Kip 22:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb. If any more info needs be included in the blurb, the mission is more important than the minor issues to me, but I'd rather just add the mlre concise blurb. Sincerely, Novo Tape^{My Talk Page} 23:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability Article quality is good. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:43, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Just as a note: This is ITN/R, (indicated by the green nomination box) given it covers "Arrival of spacecraft (to lunar orbit and beyond) at their destinations". Notability is automatically assumed for events like this. (which are incredibly rare; typically just one or two a year, especially given how, as we've seen of late, many spacecraft fail to even make it to the destination) Nottheking (talk) 05:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 03:54, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 Bashkortostan protests

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Article: 2024 Bashkortostan protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Protests break out in the Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Protests break out in Russia's Bashkortostan following the imprisonment of Fail Alsynov
News source(s): The Guardian, NY Times, CNN, ABC, DW, Reuters
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by ShadZ01 (talk · give credit)
• Created by PoisonHK (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ivannah (talk · give credit), Lukt64 (talk · give credit) and HeyElliott (talk · give credit)

• Support I'm usually familiar with the places that we highlight here but Bashkortostan is new to me. So, this item is quite encyclopædic in expanding our horizons. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Neutral - Notability is debatable but as you say this is enyclopedic (I already knew of Bashkotostan but I didn't know they had such a large independence movement), and protests in Russia are certainly rare these days. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

There are two independence movements actually, Free Idel-Ural and the Committee of Bashkir Resistance ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 09:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Is this a 'Judean People's Front' and 'People's Front of Judea' situation? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Not really, the Committee of Bashkir Resistance is a Bashkir-specific organization, while Idel-Ural is an alliance of seven ethnic groups from six different republics in the region, a successor to the Russian Civil War-era Idel-Ural State. The latter nominally included four ethnic groups but was mostly Tatar and Bashkir-dominated, but its modern incarnation appears to be more representative of the different peoples and aims at a EU-like confederation between the states. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 21:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Bloody hell Russia is complex. Every time I look at a map I see 5 new cultures and breakaway states I never knew about. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support - Seems notable enough, plus encyclopedic as noted above. The article is a little short, but that may just be because it's covering a recent event, and that can certainly be worked on. If we want to be cautious on notability, we could wait to see if it leads to something more major. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Definitely encyclopedic and from a place we unfortunately don't hear that much about. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 09:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Protests like this are very rare in Russia. MarioJump83 (talk) 13:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Significant due to the rarity of such events occurring. Article will need to be expanded but overall still ITN-worthy. Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality there's not been any updates on the protests section since 17 January, and that section is quite thin considering it's meant to be the main details of what's been happening. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality per Joseph2302, and if you're going to call the Bakshir government "corrupt" in Wikivoice it would be a really good idea to actually source that... Black Kite (talk) 18:18, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Conditional Support Protests where the Russian Government actually gives in to any demands are very rare. First time this big of a protest has happened since 2022. Lukt64 (talk) 19:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Condition is that the article quality is improved. Lukt64 (talk) 19:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

I am one of the main editors of the article, I fully acknowledge your needs which is what me and few editors are watching closely and trying to update this article considering not a lot of people are committed to it. ShadZ01 (talk) 20:12, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support per above, fairly unusual event for Russia. The Kip 22:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notability but article quality could be improved somewhat --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 03:47, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Is 1000 protestors that notable? Stephen 03:56, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  actually the article clearly states it was 10,000 Kasperquickly (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  Actually the article clearly stated 1000 when I made my comment. Now it says 5000-10000. We’ve posted protests of more than 100,000, this one is trivial. Stephen 11:30, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  In Russia? Yes _-_Alsor (talk) 13:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  I beg to differ: 2011–2013 Russian protests, 2017–2018 Russian protests, 2021 Russian protests, and Anti-war protests in Russia (2022–present) for starters. Stephen 23:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Obviously huge deal Kasperquickly (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Admin note there's enough support to post this, but the infobox goes its own way and largely doesn't summarize the rest of the article's content. Someone needs to source it harmonize it before I'd be comfortable posting. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 20:44, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article has been updated, clearly notable. --NoonIcarus (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support per updates Schwinnspeed (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready, unreferenced claims in the infobox remain. Stephen 23:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

January 18

Portal:Current events/2024 January 18

January 18, 2024 (2024-01-18) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in Balochistan 2024 Iranian missile strikes in Pakistan, Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar, 2024 Iran–Pakistan border skirmishes The Pakistan Air Force launches "precision airstrikes" on militant targets inside Iran a day after Iranian missile strikes in Balochistan, Pakistan, killed two at least two civilians. Camps belonging to the Baluch Liberation Front and Balochistan Liberation Army are reportedly hit. (India Today) (First Post) Russian invasion of Ukraine Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukraine says that it struck an oil terminal in Saint Petersburg, Russia, with a domestic-produced long-range drone, as part of a new campaign against strategic targets inside Russian territory. However, Russia reports that the attack failed. (Reuters) Jordanian intervention in the Syrian civil war Jordan launches airstrikes against alleged drug traffickers in Arman, Syria, hitting several buildings and killing ten civilians. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy 2022–2024 United Kingdom industrial disputes and strikes The largest general strike in more than 50 years occurs in Northern Ireland. (BBC News) Indian multinational company Tata Steel announces the closure of both its blast furnaces in Port Talbot, Wales, with the loss of around 3,000 jobs across the United Kingdom, in what trade unions are calling a "worst-case scenario" for workers. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Ten people are killed, two are injured and one person is missing due to landslides caused by heavy rains in Davao de Oro, Philippines. (AP) Twelve children and two teachers are killed after a boat on a school trip capsized into a lake near Vadodara, Gujarat, India. (BBC) International relations International reactions to the Israel–Hamas war Mexico and Chile announce that they have filed a request for the International Criminal Court to investigate allegations of war crimes committed in the Gaza Strip. (Hindustan Times) Law and crime 2024 Ecuadorian conflict Two people are arrested for killing public prosecutor César Suárez. (NBC News) Corruption in Singapore Singaporean Transport Minister S. Iswaran resigns both as cabinet minister, member of parliament of West Coast GRC and as a member of the PAP after being charged with 27 counts of corruption and receiving gratification as a public servant by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB). It is considered as the highest-profile graft involving a cabinet minister in 38 years. (CNA) Shakahola Forest incident Ninety-five people are charged in Kenya over the deaths by 429 followers of a religious cult in 2023. (Al Jazeera) Protests and riots erupts across Comoros after incumbent president Azali Assoumani was declared winner following an election earlier this month. A government minister’s house is set on fire and roads are barricated in the capital Moroni, while protestors are tear gassed by police. A person is killed and six more injured. (AP) Politics and elections Government shutdowns in the United States The United States Congress approves a stopgap bill to extend the deadline for government funding to March 2024, narrowly avoiding a government shutdown, which would have begun at midnight, January 19. (Reuters) Science and technology Commercial Lunar Payload Services Astrobotic's and NASA's Peregrine Mission One lunar lander is destroyed as it reenters Earth's atmosphere over the Pacific Ocean following the failure of its propulsion system. (BBC News) Water on Mars The European Space Agency probe Mars Express finds huge deposits of dusty ice beneath the equator of Mars, with the discovery being the largest amount of water ice ever found near the planet's equator. (Space.com)

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(Posted) RD: Nancy Adler

Article: Nancy Adler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

NY Times obit published 18 January. Thriley (talk) 02:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support—Well-written with more than adequate sourcing. Kurtis ^(talk) 05:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support - Very well-sourced and overall of high quality. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

(Sudan Removed) Ongoing Removal: Myanmar Civil War and War in Sudan

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Articles: Myanmar Civil War (talk · history · tag) and War in Sudan (2023–present) (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

These conflicts are not being updated enough and are also not getting sufficient media coverage to warrant ongoing. Ongoing is for a constant stream of blurb-worthy events, it's not an armed conflict ticker. If we were to keep these conflicts up then I think wars of similar intensity like the Maghreb Insurgency and Somali Civil War should also be put up. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support for Sudan, Oppose for Myanmar. I haven't seen much out of Sudan, but active warfare is very much so going on in Myanmar to an extensive degree still. River10000 (talk) 13:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Neutral for Sudan, Oppose for Myanmar given there is very much ongoing developments there. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 14:07, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Enough to warrant multiple blurbs? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Fall of Laukkai and of the Northeast Command Headquarters on January 5, tentative ceasefire negotiated by China on January 12 (soon broken by the junta), fall of Paletwa on January 15... ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 19:24, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Every single individual event of these could warrant a blurb? Dubious imo PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

The negotiated ceasefire would've definitely been blurb-worthy if not for the fact it was ongoing. But these were just the last few examples, many more (and more blurbworthy ones) if you go back to December, like Chinland being proclaimed as an independent state, ... ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 09:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Both of these articles are still seeing active updates in the past week, moreso than I'm used to from long-standing Ongoing articles. In fact, they are more actively updated and expanded than the main Russian invasion article is. Whether our level of activity on any of these articles is sufficient to keep promoting them, I have no clue. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  We dont just want updates tk the article but also that these are new breaking events that are being added. The Ukraine/Russia war still gets daily headlines, but both of these seem far beliw tye fold with little daily coverage to warrant ongoing. Masem (t) 14:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose both With recent developments in South Kordofan, it looks like an RSF offensive is about to begin there. Myanmar is still a warzone, with town captures happening almost daily. Lukt64 (talk) 16:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  WP:CRYSTAL. When/if it happens, we put it up. Also there are many more warzones than Myanmar, that doesn't automatically mean notability. ITN isn't a conflict ticker PrecariousWorlds (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion it may be time to consider putting the Maghreb insurgency in Ongoing. Lukt64 (talk) 16:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

If you’re talking the Insurgency in the Maghreb (2002-present)… there’s not even a 2022 section in there, let alone 2023/4. You sure about that? The Kip 18:25, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

i meant Sahel insurgency Lukt64 (talk) 19:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Which has one listed incident this month. The Kip 21:34, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Then we might as well put every armed conflict in ongoing. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support for Sudan, Neutral for Myanmar, due to the war in Sudan being old news and nothing significant recently, however the Myanmar war is still very much ongoing. Editor 5426387 (talk) 18:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. There are still things happening. Kirill C1 (talk) 19:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing items need to show ongoing news coverage, not simply that the event is continuing. — Masem (t) 20:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Just because there are events happening in the world doesn't automatically mean notability. My main point is that if we are to keep these on the main page, we might as well put every significant armed conflict up. I just want consistancy. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 08:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Support for Sudan, Neutral for Myanmar. Sudan was removed once already, but then put back up when the conflict picked back up again. No reason that we can't do that again. JM (talk) 20:30, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, there are now 6 articles listed in the Ongoing section now that Houthi involvement in the 2023 Israel-Hamas war has been added. Probably at least one should be removed, and given that it's the Sudan one with the least amount of updates, I think it should be that one. JM (talk) 23:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support for Sudan as most recent updates seem to be on the diplomatic issues related to the war, rather than the war itself. Oppose on Myanmar as there's been a solid amount of recent combat-focused updates. The Kip 20:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

oppose for both. Rebels in myanmar captured another town three days ago and in sudan a lot of attention is being drawn to fighting by a world heritage sight and ethnic conflict. Personisinsterest (talk) 01:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Support for Sudan, Oppose for Myanmar. Theres not much going in Sudan but Myanmar still has active developments. Setarip (talk) 03:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Neutral for Sudan, oppose for Myanmar—The former doesn't seem to be getting too many major updates these days, but Myanmar's civil war has been experiencing quite a few developments in recent times, to the extent where I'd honestly say that the Tatmadaw is facing the greatest threat to its supremacy over Burmese politics in the 60+ years since they took over the country under Ne Win. Myanmar is still very much ongoing. Kurtis ^(talk) 04:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Sudan's article has recent updates about fighting in Kordofan & Myanmar's article has recent updates about fighting throughout Myanmar. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Sudan, neutral on Myanmar for same reasons as others with the same votes. Also, is the purpose of ITN ongoing just to list wars, as that's all we seem to be using it for? Joseph2302 (talk) 13:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  Ongoing has previously listed the pandemic, the Olympics & the World Cup. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Sudan Removed; Myanmar discussion still in process. Spencer^T•C 21:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Suggestion What if the displayed text "Ongoing" was made into a link to the List of ongoing armed conflicts article? (Similar to what is done for "Recent deaths" below it in the template.) Farolif (talk) 21:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  Conditional support when a solution to a problem is found Thing is, it already makes a redirect to Current Events. Maybe we could have list of ongoing armed conflicts made into an article thats just "List of ongoing conflicts" that includes protests and strikes. Lukt64 (talk) 21:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  I think that or something similar was proposed and rejected. Ongoing is not just for ongoing conflicts, it just happens that ongoing conflicts are usually all that is listed there, but previously the COVID-19 pandemic was listed for a long time. JM (talk) 21:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  I have added a section on the List of ongoing armed conflicts article talk page. This is an issue that should be discussed there. Lukt64 (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  In addition, I also added a "Major conlicts" section in the ongoing events to Portal:Current_events/Sidebar Lukt64 (talk) 21:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  Any major additions to critical parts of the CE portal more than likely need consensus to add. GWA's removed it anyways. The Kip 01:28, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

  Ongoing is also used for major sports events (like FIFA, Olympics), was used for COVID, etc; i.e., it is not just a war-ticker. Curbon7 (talk) 01:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 17

Portal:Current events/2024 January 17

January 17, 2024 (2024-01-17) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis 2024 missile strikes in Yemen The United States Central Command says another round of U.S. strikes has destroyed 14 anti-ship missiles in Yemen that were being prepared to launch at merchant vessels and U.S. Navy ships in the region. (Reuters) Operation Prosperity Guardian The United States redesignates the Yemen-based Houthis as a terrorist organization in response to continuing attacks in the Red Sea. (Reuters) (Archive) 2024 Iran–Pakistan border skirmishes 2024 Iranian missile strikes in Pakistan Pakistan recalls its ambassador to Iran in response to the missile attack on its territory that killed two civilians. (The Washington Post) 2024 Ecuadorian conflict Public prosecutor César Suárez, who was investigating the takeover of the TC Televisión newsroom by armed men, is killed in Guayaquil, Ecuador. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents At least 19 people are killed and three others are missing in an explosion at a fireworks factory in Suphan Buri, Thailand. (AP) Three people are killed and 77 others are injured in an explosion caused by explosives stored for use in illegal mining operations at several buildings in Ibadan, Nigeria. (AP) Three people are killed when a power line falls on a car during a major winter storm in Portland, Oregon, United States. (AP) Law and crime 2024 Bashkortostan protests Thousands of people protest the trial of Bashkir activist Fail Alsynov in Baymak, Bashkortostan, Russia. Clashes with police are reported. (RFE/RL) Lèse-majesté in Thailand Thai activist Arnon Nampa is sentenced to four years in prison for posting a royal insult on social media in 2021. (CNA) Three people are killed and five others injured during a mass shooting against a group of men outdoors in Morvant, Trinidad and Tobago. (AP) Former Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei is barred from entering the U.S. after the State Department accuses him of "significant corruption". (Reuters) UK Home Secretary James Cleverly announces a ban on Hizb ut-Tahrir, an Islamic fundamentalist movement, for its support of Hamas and "violently antisemitic rhetoric". (The Algemeiner)

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(Posted) RD: César Suárez

Article: César Suárez (Ecuadorian prosecutor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN CBS News
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Fixer88 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ecuadorian prosecutor investigating TC Televisión newsroom takeover. Shot dead by hitmen. Article looks good. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:03, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support everything seems well-sourced. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 19:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shawnacy Barber

Article: Shawnacy Barber (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

world champion pole vaulter.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support based on article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Dejan Milojević

Article: Dejan Milojević (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN Daily Mail
Credits:

• Nominated by RockinJack18 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors. Coached Jokic in Euro League, Article looks good. - RockinJack18 20:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose 18 paragraphs that end without a reference. Stephen 21:32, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose article does not look good. Per Stephen. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:30, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Iranian strikes in Pakistan

Article: 2024 Iranian strikes in Pakistan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Air strikes by the Iranian military killed 2 children and 3 injured around Panjgur area of Balochistan, Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Iran launches missile strikes against Pakistan, and aerial strikes against Iraq and Syria
Alternative blurb II: ​ Iran launches missile strikes against Baloch separatist group Jaish ul-Adl based in Pakistan leaving 2 dead and 3 injured . In retaliation, the Pakistan Air Force launches Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar against Iran, leaving 7 dead.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Iran launches missile strikes in Pakistan, and aerial strikes in Iraq and Syria. In response, Pakistan conducts retaliatory airstrikes in Iran.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Iran launches missile strikes against Baloch separatist group Jaish ul-Adl based in Pakistan, as well as strikes in Iraq and Syria. In response, Pakistan airstrikes several targets in Iran.
News source(s): VOA, CNN, BBC, AP, NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
• Created by MrGreen1163 (talk · give credit)

Ainty Painty (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - Totally irrelevant and insignificant from ITN's point of view. Fahads1982 (talk) 17:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support – totally relevant and significant from ITN's point of view. It represents an expansion of existing tensions around Iran and in the Middle East. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support This is a notable increase in tensions, and the article is of reasonable quality for ITN --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 21:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support Attack by Iran on foreign (Pakistani) soil leading to a flare-up of tensions between the two countries in the context of the Balochistan conflict, definitely ITN material. The blurb could mention that it was the IRGC (Sepah) that was responsible, rather than the Iranian army (Artesh), as Iran maintains two parallel armies (with separate navies, air forces, etc.). ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 21:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support resulted in the recall of an ambassador, seems significant enough. JM (talk) 22:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Article is in good shape. Significant event with global coverage. Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Support - per above supports. Jusdafax (talk) 01:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Could mention that Iran has attacked Iraq, Pakistan and Syria in the last couple of days, and link 2024 Erbil attack as well. Stephen 02:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Agreed. This was not done in isolation from other recent Iranian strikes. JM (talk) 03:18, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Are there sources connecting these attacks? The ones in Iraq and Syria are allegedly related to the Iran-Israel proxy conflict, while the Pakistan one is part of the Balochistan conflict. While they all happened relatively recently, it might be OR to connect them all as part of the same blurb. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 03:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose we should wait till further escalation Iran is indirectly attacking Pakistan, it is directly attacking the terrorists(Jaish-ud-Adl) Even though Pakistan's government said 'it was a breach of their airspace' , I think this matter would not escalte with Israel-Hamas was going on. So, I say it is not ITN worthy until the matter escalates Harvici 04:09, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support; the situation has now escalated, with Pakistan launching retaliatory strikes. The proposed blurb may need to be updated, though. BilledMammal (talk) 05:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Support added Alt Blurb II , since Ainty Painty nominated Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar for ITN , since both are related , I think Alt Blurb II would be the best to be posted on ITN. Harvici 07:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support with amended blurb to include the Pakistani retaliatory airstrikes vide Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar. Mar4d (talk) 08:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• Pakistan retaliatory strikes article needs work before being featured. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment - Added Alt Blurb IV to mention the strikes in Iraq and Syria. Other blurb states that these strikes are "against Pakistan, and Iraq and Syria", which would imply that they were targetted at the UN-recognised governments of these countries, which Iran strongly denies. Much better to say 'in', same with the Houthi conflict. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 12:32, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Precarious 's Alt Blurb IV, but we can edit the second sentence from 'In response, Pakistan airstrikes several targets in Iran' to 'In response, Pakistan Air Force launches Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar , leaving 7 dead. Harvici 12:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I would personally prefer a simpler headline along the lines of Alt Burb III, without going into too much details; the articles are there to provide context. If we mention Iran’s targeting of Jaish-ul-Adl, then by extension we’d also have to mention Pakistan’s targeting of Baluch insurgents bases, and the blurb will get too long. That’s besides the fact, of course, that both Iran and Pakistan have not alluded to any militant deaths as of yet (on their own side) and have only acknowledged civilian casualties. Mar4d (talk) 13:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Alt3 - definitely a notable event that highlights the rise of tensions in the Middle East ✈ mike_gigs ^talk_contribs 14:45, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• support alt3 only. nableezy - 14:55, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted alt3 with the strong support above. I tweaked the link placement slightly to avoid MOS:EGG and removed an unnecessary comma. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 15:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar is probably still not quite at the level it should be for the front page. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
  • I checked each article before posting. That one is indeed short, especially after some recent paring back, but nevertheless it is comprehensive and fully cited. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 15:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Tony Lloyd

Article: Tony Lloyd (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News, BBC News
Credits:

• Nominated by Fats40boy11 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British Labour MP. Fats40boy11 (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support , the article looks good now . I had a little misunderstanding earlier

Support, the article looks in great shape. @User:Harvici, the DoB and the Trafford Council job are both sourced in the body (cites 9 and 8 respectively). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 17:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support LGTM. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support article appears well sourced Dantus21 (talk) 23:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is well sourced and in good shape. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 07:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 07:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Ongoing nomination: 2024 missile strikes in Yemen

Article: 2024 missile strikes in Yemen (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Interstellarity (talk · give credit)
• Created by Eladkarmel (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Chomik1129 (talk · give credit)

This is likely to go on even after the blurb rolls off. Interstellarity (talk) 13:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Conditional support/Wait if they do something akin to the 12th, or if the Houthis retaliate, definitely support. If not, insignificant. The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 13:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose it is the involvement of Houthi in Israel - Hamas war; there is no need to include it in ongoing unitl it escalates and becomes Ansar Allah vs USA (etc) , then it can be ongoing worthy Harvici 13:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Wait - I said this in the original nom as well, but I think we should first wait and see if the situation actually escalates further into a more long-term conflict before deciding on whether or not to put it in Ongoing. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 14:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until further escalation, Conditional Support on notability if it does escalate. Editor 5426387 (talk) 14:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Suggestion – Add "(Houthi involvement)" to the Israel-Hamas War ongoing. Having a secondary article in ongoing can be nice, as we see with the Russian invasion timeline. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:14, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  By far the best proposal! PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support Nice suggestion but if the matter escalates , this can change. Harvici 16:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support Mable's idea. By far the best solution to including the matter of the Houthis. River10000 (talk) 16:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support as a concise proposal until further escalation. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 16:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support for now, seems reasonable enough. JM (talk) 01:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support I think this is a great solve Schwinnspeed (talk) 01:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support - Good idea! We could certainly keep it like that until anything major happens. Bucket of sulfuric acid (talk) 08:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support, very good idea. Lukt64 (talk) 16:48, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support. @Admins willing to post ITN: I feel like there's a consensus to do these parentheses now. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Support as proposed by Maple. The Kip 20:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Strong oppose While the initial escalation by the Houthis was made in relation to the Israel-Hamas war, multiple reliable sources indicate that the Houthi attacks have become indiscriminate, targeting vessels with no discernible connection to Israel. No source that I am aware of currently makes the strong statement that the ongoing fighting between the US/UK and the Houthis is a direct part of the Israel-Hamas war. I think lumping them together as the same "ongoing" is not defensible with reliable sources. eyal (talk) 21:23, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Comment The article in question is subject to a proposed move, so I wonder that if it ends up getting moved to Red Sea crisis that it should be un-bracketed and listed separately. JM (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Oh wow, I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the Supports on an idea I had forgotten I posted, haha. Feels very good. Yes, I expect the setup will change shortly, and Red Sea Crisis sounds likely to work as a separate Ongoing too. Our coverage evolves faster than we can make decisions. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support as this is an ongoing conflict now, but I would suggest a broader focus on the conflict than just the missile strikes. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 21:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Maplestrip's suggestion of adding ([[Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war|Houthi involvement]]) as there is consensus for it. That brings me to the interesting issue of credits, though, with Interstellarity having nominated 2024 missile strikes in Yemen, but a different article being posted that Interstellarity has never edited. If that's ok with you, Interstellarity, I hand out credits to two other editors instead who I have added to this nomination. If there are diverging ideas on how to handle the credits, please discuss and ping me when a resolution has been reached. Schwede66 22:20, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Makes sense to me. Although it came out of the original nomination, it was an altogether different article by a different nominator that got consensus to post. JM (talk) 23:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Hi, can you please clarify how you determined that consensus was reached (WP:DETCON)? I raise the concern that this decision violates WP:VER, and so far this point has gone unaddressed. eyal (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  NYT says [Houthi] has claimed it is acting in response to the Israeli military response in the Gaza Strip. I don't think the fact that the attacks became indiscriminate means it's not a part of the war (plus NYT reports it as part of the war) Aaron Liu (talk) 23:34, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Agree with the fact that it kinda violates WP:VER, I'm thinking of changing my vote but it's hard to word it as on the one hand it was absolutely a reaction to the Israel-Hamas war, on the other hand Houtis are kinda doing their own thing now despite claiming it's about Israel, so if there's an elegant solution that wraps up all of this I'd be interested. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 23:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

  Although I'm not convinced that this is a problem, given that there's an active proposal to change the article title to Red Sea crisis, that could be the solution you're looking for. It would mean that the article is no longer directly subordinate to the Israel-Hamas war and therefore would no longer be bracketed, while also maintaining that it's otherwise the same article which is listed as Ongoing. JM (talk) 00:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  That's fine. Anything that improves upon my nomination helps out a lot. Interstellarity (talk) 02:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support adding the Red Sea crisis to Ongoing, though oppose doing so as a parenthetical add-on to Israel–Hamas war, per Eyal 3400. DecafPotato (talk) 23:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

January 16

Portal:Current events/2024 January 16

January 16, 2024 (2024-01-16) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Red Sea crisis 2024 missile strikes in Yemen A Greek-owned bulk carrier is hit by a missile launched from Houthi-controlled territory in Yemen with minor damage reported. Separately, the United States launches more airstrikes on Houthi positions, destroying four anti-ship missiles that were being prepared for launch. (BBC News) British multinational oil and gas company Shell suspends all Red Sea shipments indefinitely amid Houthi attacks on commerical vessels. (Fox Business) Russian invasion of Ukraine Bombing of Kharkiv Seventeen people are injured in a Russian missile strike on a residential area in Kharkiv, Ukraine. (Reuters) 2024 Iran–Pakistan border skirmishes 2024 Iranian missile strikes in Pakistan Iran launches ballistic missiles at Balochistan, Pakistan, targeting what it claims are Jaish ul-Adl terrorist sites, killing two children and injuring three other people. Pakistan calls the action an "unprovoked violation" of its airspace. (AP) Democratic Republic of the Congo–Rwanda tensions A Congolese soldier is killed and two others are arrested by the Rwandan Army in a cross-border incident in Rubavu District, Rwanda. (AP) Somali Civil War An al-Shabaab suicide bomber kills three people and wounds two others outside of the Mayor of Mogadishu's office in Mogadishu, Somalia. (Anadolu Agency) International relations War in Sudan Sudan suspends its membership in the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) after accusing it of inviting Rapid Support Forces official Hemedti to an upcoming summit in Kampala, Uganda. (AP) Law and crime Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases A lawsuit is filed against Madison Square Garden Entertainment chairman James L. Dolan, accusing him of pressuring a woman into having unwanted sex in 2014. The woman also files a lawsuit against film producer Harvey Weinstein, accusing him of sexually assaulting her. (The New York Times) A drive-by shooting kills five people in Ceiba, Puerto Rico. Authorities say the killings are likely connected to drug trafficking. (ABC News) The Iranian government extends Nobel laureate Narges Mohammadi's jail term of 12 years for "spreading propaganda". (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 United States presidential election Asa Hutchinson 2024 presidential campaign Former Governor of Arkansas Asa Hutchinson withdraws from the 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries. (AP) Rwanda asylum plan UK Conservative Party deputy chairmen Lee Anderson and Brendan Clarke-Smith resign to join 60 other Conservative MPs in voting to back an amendment to the Asylum and Immigration Bill, making it more strict. The amendment later fails to pass. (BBC News)

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(Posted) 2024 Comorian presidential election

Article: 2024 Comorian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Azali Assoumani is re-elected president of the Comoros. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Incumbent Comorian president Azali Assoumani is re-elected in a disputed election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Incumbent Comorian president Azali Assoumani is re-elected in a presidential election that had 16% turnout due to an opposition boycott.
News source(s): France 24 AP BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Vanilla Wizard (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Was going to nominate this on the day of the election, but soon realized that election results weren't out yet. Added an altblurb in case weight should be given to the controversies that erupted after the election, not sure though since international observers have commented on the election and did not condemn it for alleged irregularities. Some work may still need to be done before posting, but the aftermath section has an acceptable amount of prose in my opinion and the material seems to be well-sourced.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 00:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Support Alt1 looks fine. Every paragraph ends with a citation except the last sentence of one, I'm assuming the citations at the end of each paragraph are meant to give a source for the whole paragraph. Table is cited. Given the disputed results, Alt1 is better in my opinion. JM (talk) 00:15, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support ALT1, albeit the article feels a tad short. The Kip 22:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support the original blurb or Alt2, oppose Alt1 Since international observers called this a free & fair election, I think it’s probably inappropriate to label this a disputed election without going into more details. What seems more appropriate to me is noting that the presidential election had a 16% turnout because it was boycotted by some opposition candidates. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 23:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Comment If there is consensus that the article is up to shape but not consensus for a particular blurb variant, I recommend using the short and to-the-point original blurb until a clearer consensus emerges regarding how to describe the controversies surrounding the election.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 20:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support ALT1 the article looks fine and is listed in WP:ITN/R , we should definetly post it. Harvici 07:32, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Posted Adapted blurb version. Spencer^T•C 15:53, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Peter Schickele (P.D.Q. Bach)

Article: Peter Schickele (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Smurrayinchester (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Better known under his pseudonym P.D.Q. Bach, so I think we should include it as parenthetical in the Recent deaths entry Smurrayinchester 12:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

• Support. The article has plenty of sources, including for the death. Einsof (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose Although I am sad to see him go, there are a few sources that could use some citations before posting but overall, it looks alright. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 04:50, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose I’m concerned about the uncited sentence about his repertory. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 20:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Claire Fagin

Article: Claire Fagin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Phi Inq, WaPo, NY Times
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Natg 19 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Connormah (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Needs a little bit of work. Natg 19 (talk) 20:52, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Support This looks okay now. Secretlondon (talk) 15:15, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 07:51, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Intro mentions that she was a consultant but does not mention this in the article body. It also mentions "She was an early advocate of family-centered care, with major contributions to psychiatric nursing, nursing education and geriatric care, which were underlined with a strong belief in the power of the activist consumer." but outside of mentioning her doctoral dissertation has no other detail about her research contributions. Spencer^T•C 15:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Spencer: WRT her research, I added info about a research position that she held in the 1950s & that she co-authored an analysis in 2022 suggesting that the cause of burnout among health care workers during the pandemic was inadequate hospital staffing. WRT being a consultant, I added that she was an advisor to the WHO. However, that didn’t seem important enough for the intro, so I removed the part about her being a consultant from the intro. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sergio Sebastiani

Article: Sergio Sebastiani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vatican News
Credits:

• Nominated by Harvici (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A cardinal and diplomat , article is also good Harvici 10:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There's an unsourced paragraph and a cn tag. DoB unsourced as well. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 12:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support. The death is sourced and the quality is good enough. Putting it on the main page may encourage new editors to source other parts of the article. Einsof (talk) 13:57, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose article is not good yet: some lines and paras are unsourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

RD: José Agustín

Article: José Agustín (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC news
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Noted Mexican writer.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The bibliography and the filmography are missing some sources, the life and career section has some unsourced info. Scientia potentia est, MonarchOfTerror 10:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Support. The death is sourced, the article quality is fine, and it is not nominated for deletion. Those are the three criteria for posting, per WP:ITNRD. Einsof (talk) 14:02, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose article should be fully sourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 US Republican presidential primaries

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Article: 2024 Republican presidential primaries (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by PrecariousWorlds (talk · give credit)

I know, I can see the incoming comments already. "Not a US Politics ticker", "Needs international significance", etc., but hear me out. This is an item that, like it or not, is getting way more public and media attention than most blurbs that have been put up. The Iowa caucus is front-page news on every major outlet. I think while Haley, DeSantis, and Trump continue to face each other off, it's useful to the general reader to link this. Once the candidate pool thins and a presumptive nominee is established, we can take it off. In any case, it's worth considering. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 14:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose We post the election of the president. Trump is going to be the nominee without any doubt unless the Supreme Court deems him ineligible to run. This result in Iowa was clearly expected.

Noah, AA^Talk 14:58, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing or Weak oppose, it is of some interest to the general reader (given US influence and the potential consequences of the election) but highlighting Iowa in particular doesn't bring too much. In any case, there isn't much suspense and Trump will likely be nominated, so not that interesting either. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 15:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

The syntax must've changed because I put ongoing as 'yes'. This is an ongoing nom PrecariousWorlds (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it wasn't an ongoing nom when I replied. ChaotıċEnby(talk · contribs) 15:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose as we do not cover the run ups to any election, and in the cade if the Republican caucuses, it's pretty much assured who's going to win. — Masem (t) 15:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Strongly oppose We'll have primaries/caucuses going on the next few months, but none of them (either individually or collectively) have the significance of the general election in November (which is INT/R). rawmustard (talk) 15:22, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose totally irrelevant and insignificant from ITN's point of view. We are going to post only the presidential election. _-_Alsor (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose and suggest snow close This is a ridiculous nomination, because, as the nominator has observed, this is not a US politics ticker. In case anyone needs reminding, Wikipedia is a global encyclopaedia. People in every other country would never dream of nominating pre-election party politics as an ITN. Just because it happened in the US doesn't make it more special. Chrisclear (talk) 15:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you; you've made your point in every other U.S.-related nom you've opposed for this reason. ITN/C is not your soapbox. Oppose the nom and move on. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 15:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you, but I don't quite understand your comment, I opposed the nomination and moved on - just as you suggested. The only reason I am back here is because of your strange comment. Chrisclear (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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(Closed) Narges Mohammadi

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Article: Narges Mohammadi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Iranian government has extended Nobel laureate Narges Mohammadi's jail term of 12 years for 'spreading propaganda'. (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67986227
Credits:

• Nominated by John Cummings (talk · give credit)

John Cummings (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose on quality article not updated, blurb unclear about whether the sentence has been extended from an original 12 years or by a further 12 years. Neutral for now on significance. JM (talk) 01:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose: Blurb is potentially misleading as she is only sentenced to an additional 15 months. We did not post similar news when Hong Kong pro-democracy activists like Joshua Wong received additional sentences. Tofusaurus (talk) 06:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - little international significance. Banedon (talk) 06:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose little significance Setarip (talk) 11:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose insignificant The sum of all human knowledge (talk) 12:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Insignificant as per above, Editor 5426387 (talk) 13:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not significant enough for the blurb. Nigej (talk) 17:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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