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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 7

Bohdan Bondarenko

Created by Punkmorten (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Brachygobius nunus

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Beam-index tube

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eline Berings, Lucie Škrobáková

Actually, Eline Berings is new, Lucie Škrobáková is expanded. Self nom by Punkmorten (talk) at 10:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anchorage paintball attacks

Created by CharlotteWebb. Self nom at 13:44, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, history, refs verified. I would prefer the following hook:
  • ALT1

Australian light destroyer project

Created/expanded by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wild Rugby Academy

Created by EA210269 (talk). Self nom at 09:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Elite Police

Created/expanded by yousaf465 (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Snubnosed eel

  • ... that while normally a scavenger, the snubnosed eel (pictured) also burrows into the bodies of larger fish to feed, and in 1992 two specimens were found inside the heart of a shortfin mako shark?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overland Trail

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Nominated by SriMesh (talk) at 05:51, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression

Created by Bsimmons666 (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Rand Ranger Station

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 01:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Book of Time (novel series)

5x expanded by Collectonian (talk), MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Nominated by MichaelQSchmidt (talk) at 02:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 6

William Joseph Rainbow

  • ... that William Joseph Rainbow's work, A Census of Australian Araneidae, was the first catalogue of Australian spiders?

Created by Cygnis insignis (talk). Self nom at 16:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral district of Yeerongpilly

5x expanded by Backslash Forwardslash (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rosary and scapular

Created/expanded by History2007 (talk). Nominated by Boston (talk) at 04:59, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hadwiger conjecture (combinatorial geometry)

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Medorem Crawford

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Gary O'Donnell (British Army soldier)

Created by Kernel Saunters (talk). Self nom at 01:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ...that Gary O'Donell is the first person in 26 years to be awarded a bar to his George Medal? Mjroots (talk) 08:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bay Street Emeryville

  • A toxic indian burial ground? Maybe
ALT1: ... that the Bay Street Emeryville mall was build on a Native American burial ground and a former nuclear waste dump site? ∗ \ / (⁂) 23:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2... that the Bay Street Emeryville mall was built on top of a polluted Ohlone Indian burial ground and shellmound? would be more acceptable however i see nothing wrong with the original proposal. toxic indian burial ground is a very unique thing about the location and it is well sourced that the mall is built on an Ohlone burial ground and that it is toxic, it is therefore a mall on a toxic site/burial ground Troyster87 (talk) 04:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Indian burial ground is a redlink... ∗ \ / (⁂) 11:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Psychedelic Frogfish

5x expanded by Bob the Wikipedian (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I double-checked the character count so I could see the actual numbers...it looks like if I remove the references, external links, category names, contents, and footnotes, Microsoft Word counts 5,975 characters (4,974 without spaces), and the original had 1,314 characters (1,102 without spaces). Either way I come up with around 4.5x. I'm interested to learn what your word counter is counting in addition to the actual text in the article. I'll see what I can do to expand it...possiby adding adjectives and adverbs. There may also be some content I skimmed over in the species paper that could still be included. Thanks for enjoying it; it's good to know such articles are appreciated. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 01:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Adding content from some papers would probably be better than padding it with filler words....but if it's around 4.5x, people can IAR on this nom. 5x is more of a rough guideline than an absolute cut-off; it depends mostly on if anyone is willing to take the time to do a more in-depth assessment of the article than just counting the characters. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 04:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A slight rewording of your suggestion:
  • ... that two Psychedelic Frogfish were recognized as "something different" in 1992, but were not declared a new species until this year?
I've raised the word count to 1,176, and the character count with spaces to 7,037, and the character count without spaces to 5,865. This makes the expansion 5.39 by word count, 5.35x by character count, and 5.32x by character minus spaces count. Dr. Hall is out to sea (according to an email from his secretary) and will not be able to send me photos until March 8 at the soonest, so hopefully by the time this is featured there will be a photo or three. Thanks for the encouragement to expand the article...it's amazing what a little push can do, isn't it? I didn't think there was any way I could possibly write more, but you proved me wrong. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 05:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Or 7607/1550=4.9x the way we count, explained here. Art LaPella (talk) 06:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for providing the link-- that explains your math quite well. Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 07:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a couple sentences and recalculated using your method with the newest size of 7844B for an expansion of 5.06x. Time for bed! Bob the Wikipedian (talk • contribs) 07:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Cisco Kid (TV series)

Created by User:Billy Hathorn (talk), Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Osteoblast milk protein

Created by Apoc2400 (talk), Zhangzhe0101 (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, creation date, and facts verified. I tweaked "is questioned" to "has been questioned", so there's less present-tense wording in case some countries considered it to be safe, although OMP seems to still be viewed as an issue overall. Cheers, Jamie☆S93 15:15, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Traffic light control and coordination

Created by Velela (talk) and Triskele Jim (talk). Nominated by SriMesh (talk) at 20:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss referendum, June 2005

Created by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 20:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Minhag America, Union Prayer Book, Gates of Prayer

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


1780 Atlantic hurricane season

Created by Bender235 (talk). Self nom at 16:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Treaty of Fort Wayne (1809)

5x expanded by User:Charles Edward (talk). Self nom at 14:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Wilhelm von Willisen

Created/expanded by HerkusMonte (talk). Self nom at 13:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • This hook is far too long. DYK hooks are supposed to be a short, punchy, and interesting fact, not just trying to say as much stuff as you can (in fact, it's better to say as little as you can, while still keeping it interesting and "hooking"—the usual goal is about 150–160 characters). For an example, you could write this same hook in a much shorter way:
  • ALT1: ... that the Prussian general Karl Wilhelm von Willisen was forced out of the Grand Duchy of Posen for being pro-Polish?
  • That being said, I don't know how interesting this hook is, so if you could take some time to try to find a good, interesting fact in the article, it would be helpful. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 13:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's my first attempt at DYK, so I beg your patience. It's rather the fact he had to leave after 2 weeks as a Royal envoy because he became unpopular among the populace, I thougt might be unusual and interesting. HerkusMonte (talk) 13:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me, Thanks. HerkusMonte (talk) 14:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kasakela chimpanzee community

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Friedrich August Peter von Colomb

Created by HerkusMonte (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 15:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 5

{{subst:NewDYKnom | article= No Parking Whitebeam| hook=... that the [[No Parking Whitebeam, a rare tree, was after a road sign nailed to the typre specimen? | status=new | author= totnesmartin| nominator= totnesmartin}}

The Cloud Door

Created by Enigmaticanant (talk). Nominated by Mattisse (talk) at 01:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Nigeria women's national basketball team

5x expanded by SMSpivey (talk). Self nom at 00:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Sharptail mola

  • ... that in recent years the sharptail mola (pictured) has become an important commercial fish in Taiwan, since the promotion of an ocean sunfish festival in Hualien County?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unicorn crestfish

  • ... that the deep-sea unicorn crestfish (pictured) can expel a cloud of black ink as a defense against predators?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This Is It (Michael Jackson concerts)

  • ... that Michael Jackson's official concert tour website could not deal with the traffic—16,000 applications a second—for pre-sale ticket registration?

Created by Pyrrhus16 (talk), Realist2 (talk). Nominated by Realist2 (talk) at 16:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HM Armed Smack Inverlyon, SM UB-4

5x expanded by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Russula fellea

  • ... that the bitter and inedible mushroom Russula fellea smells of geraniums or apple sauce?

Created by Luridiformis (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 11:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

toonlet

Created by Toonlet (talk). Nominated by Steven Walling (talk) at 06:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. It was evaluated on the talk page as a stub when it was stub sized, but it isn't any longer. Not ever tagged as a stub in-article. Steven Walling (talk) 21:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forward Poland

Created by Anameofmyveryown (talk). Self nom at 00:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 4 paragraphs of text under "History" and the one para lede now reach 2041 characters, not including spaces. Is that OK? Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

London Road viaduct

Part of the London Road viaduct looking northwards
Part of the London Road viaduct looking northwards
  • ... that after London Road viaduct (pictured) in Brighton, England, was bombed in 1943, trains were using it again within 24 hours even though the road below was visible through gaps in the damaged brickwork?

Created by Das48 (talk), Wwoods (talk), Hassocks5489 (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 23:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are 4 photos available to use on [Geograph Mjroots (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One added. Pics of the whole viaduct from the southwest, although good at full size, are unsuitable in thumbnail view. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 15:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Swinefield

5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Disturbed discography

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dependent and independent verb forms

Created by Angr (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


John de Breton

  • ... that the medieval bishop John de Breton is credited with having written a legal treatise 15 years after his death?

5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 22:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I can confirm that the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography contains this information: "The bishop could not in fact have written Britton in the version in which it has survived, because this third full-scale treatise on English law ... refers to statutes made up to fifteen years after his death." --Canley (talk) 00:47, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's better! Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Franklin Burch

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Doug Hele

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 20:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Flemish Bastard

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 20:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Lawrence Bulger

Created by FruitMonkey (talk) 16:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SM UB-3

5x expanded by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 06:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Luigi Pernier

Phaistos Disc
Phaistos Disc

Created by Neddyseagoon (talk). Nominated by Ghirlandajo (talk) at 15:58, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length and reference for hook verified. However, the only reference in the entire article is for the hook. The article is poorly written with incomplete sentences. An obvious "rush job". I don't know what the DKY rules are regarding the quality of the article. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • But the subject is fascinating :) DYK is not about featured stuff, it's about giving Main Page readers a chance to pick up an interesting article and to improve it. There is very little information about Pernier in English. The page about sums up everything that we know. --Ghirla-трёп- 10:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've tagged it with {{morefootnotes}}; there are sources given at the end of the article, so adding inline citations should be an easy task for someone who speaks the language and has access to those sources (ie, the person who wrote the article). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drawings by Douglas Hamilton

Created/expanded by Marcus334 (talk). Self nom at 04:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • N11 does not forbid linking to a disambiguation.
  • The reference uses the word survey, though Wikipedia meaning (precise geometrical measurement of land ) is off the mark. I linked to Scout because first sentence there does convey intended meaning. Scouting for Medical intelligence was his assignment, but medical intelligence term is not used in the article or references. Maybe leave it alone, link to medical intelligence or avoid issue entirely by de-linking the word survey?--Marcus (talk) 06:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
N11 doesn't technically forbid linking to a disambiguation, but it says to correct such links. I recently copied that rule from WP:DYK, and for a more authoritative guideline see WP:Disambiguation#Links to disambiguation pages. The sentence at Scout is about a soldier performing reconnaissance, so I don't know how that could be better than linking to Reconnaissance. For now I just unlinked it. Art LaPella (talk) 20:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gilling Abbey

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 03:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Dibothrosuchus

Created by J. Spencer (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Going alt crazy! —Mattisse (Talk) 20:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Dacia Duster

Created by Mario1987 (talk). Self nom at 11:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spiny butterfly ray

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plasmatron

  • ... that a decade of development by several major electronics companies failed to turn the Plasmatron into a successful television system?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Blake (band)

5x expanded by Mdcollins1984 (talk). Self nom at 00:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Gibbs

  • ... that Wing Commander Patrick Gibbs had to wait 49 years for the publication of the second half of his memoirs?

Created/expanded by FruitMonkey (talk) 23:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. I have a small quibble with the hook, as none of the four sources listed for the article indicate that he was denied publication and therefore "had to wait" 49 years, but rather that he did wait. The sentence in the article indicating that he was forced to shelve the second book is not referenced. —Mattisse (Talk) 12:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • alt1 ... that Welsh military pilot and journalist, Wing Commander Patrick Gibbs, published two volumes of wartime memoirs 49 years apart: Not Peace, But a Sword (1943) and Torpedo Leader (1992)?
  • alt2 ... that Welsh military pilot and journalist, Wing Commander Patrick Gibbs, published two volumes of wartime memoirs 49 years apart?

SS Letitia

Created by Benea (talk). Self nom at 23:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SM UB-2

5x expanded by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


History of rugby union matches between Argentina and France

Created by Dramatic (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Over 1000 now, and I've put a note on the rugby project page asking for other contributions. dramatic (talk) 17:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Still short of the 1500 minimum. How likely is an expansion? This has a few days before it expires so there is no rush. ∗ \ / (⁂) 13:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Made it (by my count), hopefully without waffling. It is a pain that you cannot reference specific search results at pick and go. dramatic (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reflexiones (album)

Created by Jaespinoza (talk). Self nom at 20:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Landers

  • ... that Alan Landers, who was featured in Winston cigarette ads, became an anti-smoking advocate calling himself the "Winston Man" and died of laryngeal cancer after a longtime 2½-pack-per-day habit?

Created by Canley (talk), Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • alt hook ... that Alan Landers, featured in Winston cigarette ads in the 1960s and 70s, became an anti-smoking advocate as the "Winston Man" and died of laryngeal cancer in 2009, after a longtime 2½-pack-per-day habit?

decasyllabic quatrain

Created by User:mrathel (User talk:mrathel). Self nom at 18:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Wilde (engineer)

::*alt ... that Henry Wilde demonstrated the power of his self-energizing dynamo, patented in 1875, by using it to melt iron bars? ::: Added time frame to hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 22:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 1875 patent mentioned in the article is for making printing rollers, not the dynamo. I don't know when (or even if) Wilde patented the dynamo, patents that old are difficult to track down if you don't know the patent number - but I do know that Wilde had a lot of patents. If you need a date in the hook use 1866, which is the date his dynamo paper was communicated (via Michael Faraday) to the Royal Society. That is currently buried in a footnote, but I can put that date in the body of the article if required. SpinningSpark 01:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It helps the hook to have a date, a country, something to give context. However, it is not required. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You might be able to find the patent in the London Gazette, just searching on Henry Wilde, finds "No. 24460". The London Gazette. 18 May 1877. this in the first page of hits. David Underdown (talk) 13:54, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stroganov Palace

Stroganov Palace
Stroganov Palace

Created by Wikiolap (talk). Nominated by Ghirlandajo (talk) at 12:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MV Belgian Airman

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 11:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo: Can You Imagine?

Created by Luka Jačov (talk). Self nom at 11:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And can you imagine a better hook? Every movie has a release date; this would be interesting or unusual only if like, say, The Day the Clown Cried, it had long been unreleased? As it is this sounds like promotion. Daniel Case (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anastasios Christodoulou

Created by Jack1956 (talk). Self nom at 11:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt ... that Greek Cypriot academic Anastasios Christodoulou was named 'Anastasios' ('Resurrection') by his parents as he was born on Easter Day? Jack1956 (talk) 11:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Forester

  • ... that Thomas Forester, the only American stock mutual fund manager to make a profit in 2008, had previously been the highest performing mutual fund manager of the 6000 tracked by Morningstar in 2002?

Created by User:TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 09:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Walter L. Bragg

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Friends of Gilda

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 06:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Itoro Umoh-Coleman

Created by SMSpivey (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook should include a link to the named article; how about:
ALT1: ... that Itoro Umoh-Coleman was one of two Hephzibah High School alumni to play on the Nigerian women's national basketball team in the 2004 Summer Olympics? Gonzonoir (talk) 12:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment- yea, whoops, this was my first DYK nom. Should alumni be changed to alumnae in the alt since both players are female (I also failed at Latin pluralization)? SMSpivey (talk) 15:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think the most common practice today is to say "alumni" regardless of sex, though likely this will excite pedantry. To avoid the Fourth Punic War, why not just say "graduates"?--Wehwalt (talk) 16:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, there are probably a few others that even proles will recognise such as viz and scrotum. SpinningSpark 17:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I removed a malfunctioning script from the word "two". Art LaPella (talk) 00:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment- that was when I first created the article and didn't realize I was marking it as a stub instead of placing it in an appropriate category. It is no longer tagged as a stub (hopefully). SMSpivey (talk) 00:55, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 3

Charlie Chaplin Studios

File:Jim Henson Company front gate.jpg

Created by cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jane Sterk

Created/expanded by Maclean25 (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Steve Higgins

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 19:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Minshull Vernon

Hollingshead Bridge on the Shropshire Union Canal at Minshull Vernon
Hollingshead Bridge on the Shropshire Union Canal at Minshull Vernon
Aqueduct carrying the Shropshire Union Canal over the River Weaver at Minshull Vernon
Aqueduct carrying the Shropshire Union Canal over the River Weaver at Minshull Vernon

5x expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self nom at 03:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Li Guangyan

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Equitable coloring

  • ... that an equitable coloring of a graph, in which the numbers of vertices of each color are as nearly equal as possible, may require far more colors than a graph coloring without this constraint?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

White as Snow (song)

Created by MelicansMatkin (talk). Self nom at 17:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brodir and Ospak of Man

Created by Grimhelm (talk) in 2005; expanded fivefold by Grimhelm (talk) on 3 March 2009. Self nom at 14:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, I have referred this to the Norse history and culture Wikiproject. We should be able to get something done on the weekend before St. Patrick's Day. --Grimhelm (talk) 15:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical Storm Faxai (2007)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 12:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In Case of Fire

Created by Cabe6403 (talk). Self nom at 11:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Expanded with a small part on the reception of the debut single. There is possibility for expansion over the next week or so as the band gets more exposure with the release of their second single only a few days ago. In may when the album is released also there will be much more posibility to expand -- Cabe6403 (Talk•Sign!) 14:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lourens Bass Becking

  • ... that the biologist Lourens Bass Becking was imprisoned by the Germans for attempting to escape the occupied Netherlands, and spent his time in prison studying typhoid fever as it spread amongst the inmates?

Created by Someguy1221 (talk). Self nom at 04:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm new to this. Someguy1221 (talk) 04:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, and newly-added references check out now. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMGA2

  • ... that HMGA2's presence is associated with poor prognosis for cancer patients, but also with sensitization of cancer cells to certain forms of radiation and chemotherapy?

5x expanded by Someguy1221 (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMA No. 1

  • ... that HMA No. 1 Mayfly, Britain's first rigid airship, broke in two as a result of strong winds on 24 September 1911 before she could attempt her first flight?

Created by Red Sunset (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Camponotus vagus

Created/expanded by Schuym1 (talk). Nominated by Boston (talk) at 22:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Faryl

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SS Merion

Created by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wendel Dietterlin

  • ... that the architectural designs of Mannerist painter and printmaker Wendel Dietterlin (d. 1599) have been characterized as a "bizarre ornamental fantasy"? (Needs a bit more work, but I don't have the time right now. Perhaps good enough for DYK. There are many potential illustrations, but I don't know how well they work on a small scale.) Self-nom. --Hegvald (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flat needlefish

  • ... that although it is considered a gamefish, flat needlefish are seldom eaten because of their green-colored flesh?

Created/expanded by ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been looking for some pictures but i cant find any. maybe someone will add some later on. Ryan shell (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leptotrombidium

5x expanded by Gak (talk). Nominated by Carlossuarez46 (talk) at 17:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • As a lay reader, I have no idea what this mean...I assume vector means "carrier" but I'm not sure. Please reword the hook to be more accessible and interesting to non-specialists. Linking "vector" (I assume to vector (biology)) would help, but I think more rewording would also be good. Also, on the side, should the genus name be italicized? rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't look at this before, but right now the article's not long enough; an article for DYK has to be at least 1500 prose characters (not counting references, formatting, etc; the easiest way to count it is to use User:Dr pda/prosesize.js.
  • Assuming you guys can expand it a bit, I still think the hook is a bit confusing (personally, I don't know the difference between a carrier and a vector, and if I don't know then I imagine most of the dumb dumbs reading the main page won't either), and would suggest the following truncated version:
  • ALT2: ... that mites of the genus Leptotrombidium are carriers of Orientia tsutsugamushi, the germ that causes scrub typhus? rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be honest, I think ALT2 is clearer and more interesting. Anyway, the article is long enough now, but I'm having some difficulty understanding the second paragraph (about how the mites are not vectors). Is it supposed to be saying that an adult can't infect a human because it's already feeding on a rat, but when it gives birth then its babies might move on to a human in infect it? If so, it would be useful if you could clarify that within the article (right now it's only vaguely mentioned, through a linked jargon word that I had to click to find more information, and to be honest the Transovarial transmission article is not very helpful). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 14:48, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just wanted to say that I disagree with dropping "vector" from the hook. I am presuming that the only reason for doing so is that there is an objection that not everyone will understand it. The term has a precise meaning in epidemology which a rewording cannot exactly convey. Wikipedia would be a very sad encyclopedia if it only used words and terms that absolutely everyone understood (and if they understand already, why read any articles). It is especially sad as there is a perfectly good article that can be wikilinked to help anyone who needs an explanation. SpinningSpark 19:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was originally thought that rodents were the main reservoir for O. tsutsugamushi and that the mites were merely vectors of infection: however, it is now known that the mites only feed once in their lifetime, which means that transmission from rodent to human is impossible." I read that as "it was originally thought that the mites were vectors, but now we don't think so anymore." I was under the impression that that means they're carriers, not vectors. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 22:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that means that it was originally thought that mites were the vectors, and rodents were the reservoir of the disease. It is now thought that mites are the vector and reservoir of the disease. SpinningSpark 14:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then that paragraph in the article needs to be written. If we already have two intelligent people reaching different conclusions about what it means, then it's not ready to be shown to two thousand people on the main page.
  • As for the vector/carrier wording in the hook....if the mite is both vector and reservoir, I don't see why it matters which term we use for the hook. As far as I know, "carrier" is the most common and easily recognizable term for the general public, and would make the best and most readable hook. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 14:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's only one person reaching a different conclusion in this conversation as far as I can tell. In any case, you should not be using a term in the hook that is neither in the article, in the source nor proposed by the author. SpinningSpark 16:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ariel Meredith

  • ... that after winning a 500-contestant modeling competition at age 14, fashion model Ariel Meredith was contacted by thirty-two prospective clients?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not a huge fan of the alt...merely being "mentioned" is often not even enough to save an article from AFD, much less make an eye-catching DYK fact. I know I raised objections about the original hook (and yeah, even if it is unusual for a fashion model, I don't think it would have gotten me to click it), but it may be the best we can do; from what I can tell this is one of those people that's clearly notable by WP standards but just not that interesting nonetheless (except to people who are already into this sort of thing). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 03:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overland Trail (Yukon)

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Thomas North

John Thomas North
John Thomas North
What an excellent article! Keep up the good work Dumelow. Date, length, refs, and all three hooks verified. I too prefer the first hook.Broadweighbabe (talk) 19:40, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That first hook contains a repetition of the word being and also has a third -ing verb shortly after that. If we stick to it, it definitely needs rewriting. - Mgm|(talk) 11:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
yeah I wrote it in a bit of a hurry. How about:"... that by 1889 John Thomas North had become a friend of the Prince of Wales and was worth $10 million but was originally a Yorkshire mechanic?". Just a suggestion, there are many people better at writing than me if someone can make a better hook then we can use that - Dumelow (talk) 14:25, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gao Chongwen

  • ... that the Tang Dynasty general Gao Chongwen asked to be moved from his post at Chengdu as he was illiterate and disliked the paperwork involved with governing a prosperous city?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mantis in Lace

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jaydev Kenduli

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Both the hooks are from the section under subhead Fair. The first hook is verifiable under reference no. 7 and the second hook under reference no. 1. Both the hooks are verifable on line. - Chandan Guha (talk) 06:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's the "being cornered" that is confusing, and the wording is straight from the source. Sounds like a football term. Maybe you could reword it in your own words. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Society and culture of the Han Dynasty

Created by PericlesofAthens (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I used Hulsewé (1986), "Ch'in and Han law," in The Cambridge History of China: Volume I: the Ch'in and Han Empires, 221 B.C. – A.D. 220, 520-544. Edited by Denis Twitchett and Michael Loewe. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243270, pages 524–525, to cite this particular fact.--Pericles of AthensTalk 07:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Krohn

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllodontosuchus

Created by J. Spencer (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like the second part, but the first part's not entirely accurate. How about:
alt ... that the small Early Jurassic crocodile relative Phyllodontosuchus had two types of teeth; one type was leaf-shaped resembling those of some herbivorous dinosaurs, indicating it may not have been a strict carnivore? J. Spencer (talk) 5 March sometime (forgot to sign)

Robert Bruce (wrestler)

Created by Canley (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've also realised that the hook is not actually strictly referenced - he certainly appeared in A Clockwork Orange but the role he played is only mentioned on IMDB. I'll withdraw the nom unless I can find a ref and expand in the next day or two. --Canley (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peninsular Gneiss

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 2

Thick-billed parrot

Thick-billed Parrot, Rhynchopsitta pachyrhyncha at Cincinnati Zoo, USA
Thick-billed Parrot, Rhynchopsitta pachyrhyncha at Cincinnati Zoo, USA
  • ... that one species of the thick-billed parrots (image) was formally found in Arizona, and that attempts to reintroduce the species have failed?

5x expanded by Snowmanradio (talk), KimvdLinde (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Three Orphan Kittens

5x expanded by Unscented (talk). Self nom at 00:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere Boy

Created by Cedric diggory (talk), MacGyverMagic (talk). Nominated by MacGyverMagic (talk) at 10:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I listed myself as an author because I written approximately half the article to nudge it past the size requirements before it was too old (otherwise, a 5x expansion would've been needed) - Mgm|(talk) 10:56, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cowtail stingray

  • ... that the tough skin of the cowtail stingray (pictured) is used to polish wood?

Created by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hieronymus Andreae

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Prayer Pilgrimage for Freedom

Created by ekem (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Congregation Mickve Israel

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I added another comma after "Georgia" according to the "In geographical names" paragraph of comma. I don't really like all those commas either, but I didn't see an easy way to rephrase the hook ("1733, the same year" has to go together). Art LaPella (talk) 01:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

George Stewart, 9th Seigneur d'Aubigny

George Stewart, 9th Seigneur d'Aubigny, 1638, by Anthony van Dyck.
George Stewart, 9th Seigneur d'Aubigny, 1638, by Anthony van Dyck.

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 03:50, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All ok, small changes below to "at age 24", per ENGVAR, & to remove repetition of "battle". Johnbod (talk) 04:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT ... that George Stewart, 9th Seigneur d'Aubigny (pictured) was a cousin of King Charles I of England who was killed at the age of 24 at Edgehill, the first pitched battle of the English Civil War? Johnbod (talk) 04:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT hook is better, thank you. - PKM (talk) 06:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Mutiny Acts

5x expanded by Jumpinbean (talk). Self nom at 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Judson C. Clements

Woodcut of Congressman Judson C. Clements.
Woodcut of Congressman Judson C. Clements.

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded it. It should just make it.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Expansion looks good now. However, the reference for the hook doesn't say anything about the hook. It seems like ref 5 is being used in too many places. Shubinator (talk) 01:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My screwup; it is fixed now. Try it again.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansion, history, reference, image good. Shubinator (talk) 02:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surinamese legislative election, 2005

5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-country skiing at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009, Nordic combined at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009, Ski jumping at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009

File:4wiki wsc09 sjlnh.jpg

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 12:51, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michelito Lagravere

Created by Fizzmeister (talk). Nominated by MacGyverMagic (talk) at 11:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes

5x expanded by Matthewedwards (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Air Cadet League of Canada

  • ... that the Belt of Orion Award, for organizations that have advanced aviation in Canada, was bestowed upon the Air Cadet League of Canada (logo pictured) in 1989?

5x expanded by Tartarus (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(removed review, as it was meant for the entry below; I did not realize that clicking "edit" opened the wrong entry. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Boris Eikhenbaum

5x expanded by DVD R W (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It means, "significant." Would that sound better or should the adjective just be omitted? Thanks, DVD 23:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Percy Tait

  • ... that Triumph's racer and works rider Percy Tait was estimated to have clocked up over a million miles road testing Triumph motorcycles?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

End of the World (1931 film)

5x expanded by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

David of Basra

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Mylne

  • ... that architect and engineer William Mylne fled to North America following the collapse of his North Bridge in Edinburgh in 1772, but later returned and ran the Dublin Water Works for 15 years?

Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Nies

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John H. Marble

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 09:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Seems in order. Hook is all right, but I can't think of a more exciting one. Let's try though:
Either one is OK with me. I rather thought the hook of a guy dying of apparent indigestion was fairly dramatic, but either is OK.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pixiv

Created by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 09:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Billings

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Alder

Created/expanded by Adolphus79 (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Born September 1773, taken May 1782, he turned 9 in 1782, but was still only 8 when he was taken... - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you find a source that says he was taken in May 1782? Ref 3 says he was seven years old at the time. Maybe we can just say "as a child" if you can't find a source for the date. Shubinator (talk) 02:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to change it to "as a (young?) child"... I'm just happy it wasn't immediately shot down for being too boring! ;) - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The ref I had used for May 1782 is ref #5, which claims to be from Alder's own words... I hadn't noticed that the other refs had different dates... maybe I should change the wording in the article some to reflect this... thanks for pointing that out! - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A footnote has been added... - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:06, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, just noticed one more thing: Ref 1 says the village he first went to was a Mingo village, and Ref 5 says the warrior was a Mingo. Also, do you mind changing "Indians" to "Native Americans"? Shubinator (talk) 04:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the village he was taken to, and his adoptive parents were Mingo, but the group that kidnapped him were Shawnee... I guess that would make the wording of the hook a little weird... feel free to change it however you want... as far as the "Indians"/"Native Americans", did you mean the hook or the article? - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT ... that after being kidnapped at a young age by a Shawnee raiding party, and later adopted by a Mingo chief, Jonathan Alder became the first white settler of Madison County, Ohio?
Or just use the kidnapped bit, and leave the adopted off for the hook? Like I said, feel free to change it... this is my first DYK, so anyone more experienced that wants to change it may feel free to do so... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) for the alternate hook. I was thinking about the hook for ->"Native Americans", but in the article wouldn't hurt either. I guess you would want to keep it consistent with the sources though. Shubinator (talk) 06:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Loihi Seamount

5x expanded by Resident Mario (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Ah, I wasn't quite sure it was 5x. Is there a tool for counting this? Anyway, give me a day or so to further it (only used up 2 days used up so far ;) ResMar 18:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This explains the tool and this explains when to use it. Art LaPella (talk) 20:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I understand, it only counts article length, not amount of expansion per diff. SOmeone should make a tool that auto-finds from diffs how much was added, is what I meant. ResMar 22:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now 4.65 and counting. ResMar 00:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The DYKcheck tool gives a date for when the article was at one-fifth its current prose with one click. If the start of expansion date isn't within the past few days it'll show up as a red flag. Shubinator (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Prose size (text only): 10453 B (1638 words) "readable prose size" and 5.02 on Calculator. Good enough? ResMar 01:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, but one really minor thing – the article says the summit depth is 968 meters, but the reference says 969 meters. And the hook says 968 feet. Also, do people know what Mt. St. Helens is? I've lived in that area for a while, so I shouldn't be the one to judge, but I'm not sure most people even in the US know. Well, I guess if it's wikilinked people can just follow the link to find out more. Great job on the expansion! Shubinator (talk) 00:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A dumb and perfectly obvious mistake- I'm prone to that. Fixed. ResMar 20:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Length, history, reference good. I used ref 6 to verify, since 2 is offline. I changed the link for "1980 eruption" to 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens instead of a section of the Mt. St. Helens article. Shubinator (talk) 00:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, a better link that be. ResMar 20:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
so is this one going or not? ResMar 23:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Almost certainly, after Shubinator's approval. A2. Art LaPella (talk) 02:41, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard C. Mangrum

LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)
LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)

Created/expanded by ERcheck (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

John K. Tener

5x expanded by Tasty Poutine (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Five Fingers

new article by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Selwyn Biggs

Created by FruitMonkey (talk). Nominated by Ww2censor (talk) at 23:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April Fools Day, I assume?--Wehwalt (talk) 02:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
... that after two Barbaric encounters Selwyn Biggs found himself carded along with 19 other players?
That may actually work as an April fool? FruitMonkey (talk) 13:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

  • Nominations must be posted no more than five (5) days after the creation or the beginning of the expansion of each DYK candidate article.

Articles created/expanded on March 1

Jost de Negker

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 04:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added - is well over now. Johnbod (talk) 00:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hans Lützelburger

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone kindly beat me to de-stubbing it. Johnbod (talk) 00:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karnataka Bank

  • ... that the Karnataka Bank was awarded the Sun and NDTV Green IT awards by Sun Microsystems and NDTV as a part of the Sun Technovate '08 event in recognition of the bank's usage of earth-friendly technologies?

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (Ravichandar84|talk), Acad Ronin (Acad Ronin|talk). Nominated by Ravichandar84 (talk) at 11:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

* If the material is not noteworthy, you could've tagged it for deletion, right. Else, you atleast put a notability tag on the article, then bragging about it here. Well, I'll do it for you straightaway. -The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 16:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article is fine, if not yet ready for DYK. What is not worthy of inclusion is the material about the bank's objectives.
User:Acad Ronin, I simply don't understand what you are trying to say. You had neither tagged the article for issues, nor do you improve the material which you feel is deficient. You could very well have deleted the stuff if you feel it does not belong there. On the contrary, you tell me that the material is not good enough and that yet you had abstained from deleting it as if you are doing me a favour. And three days later, you raise the same issues here when I nominate it for a DYK -The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 17:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Calm! No need to bicker over why it hasn't been improved. Generally hooks will stay one or two days on this page after they expire in the chance that they will become eligible. If you can find someone to rate the article, and work on a few of the issues Acid Ronin brought up, there is no hassle. ∗ \ / (⁂) 22:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's what I am trying to say! I feel Acad Ronin was exaggerating things here by saying that the article was "nowhere ready for a DYK". What is wrong in mentioning the bank's stated objectives? I don't think that's material that needs to be deleted. -The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 02:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I think the article is ready now. The article has been expanded from 1,383 bytes to 7,013 bytes; I guess that's a five-fold expansion even without "Objectives" section which has been removed.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 03:52, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now, the next step. I request someone here to reassess the article. I do not want to assess it myself as I am one of the people who edited that article.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 03:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pelorus Sound

5x expanded by WavyGeek (talk), Geronimo20 (talk). Nominated by Geronimo20 (talk) at 09:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


KCET Studios

KCET Studios
KCET Studios

Created by cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sheldon Manor

Sheldon Manor
Sheldon Manor

Created/expanded by Rodhullandemu (talk). Self nom at 16:27, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ice hockey at the Olympic Games

The gold medal-winning Winnipeg Falcons (representing Canada) taken en route to the 1920 Summer Olympics.
The gold medal-winning Winnipeg Falcons (representing Canada) taken en route to the 1920 Summer Olympics.

5x expanded by Scorpion0422 (talk). Self nom at 13:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I started expansion on March 1 when it had roughly less than 2000 characters of actual prose. Now the history section alone is more than 20000. There are several alternate hooks that could be used:

Yakub Hasan Sait

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

T. S. S. Rajan

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


List of Detroit Tigers Opening Day starting pitchers, Josh Billings (pitcher)

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Charles Patrick Daly

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scheduled Monuments in Cheshire (1066–1539)

Woodhey cross Barrow cross Sutton Cross

Beeston Castle Halton Castle

Espresso Addict (talk) 11:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rhena Schweitzer Miller, David C. Miller

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indrella ampulla

Created by Invertzoo (talk), Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wu Yuanji

  • ... that, believing that his staff member Yang Yuanqing had betrayed him, the Tang Dynasty warlord Wu Yuanji executed Yang's wife and four sons and used their blood to paint the archery range?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Olorgesailie

  • ... that abundant handaxes about 900,000 years old found at Olorgesailie in southern Kenya were used for animal butchering?

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Nominated by Julia Rossi (talk) at 02:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why? It's longer than that by now afaik. Removing stub tag, unless there's a problem with that. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, the tag was not on the article, but on the talk page. Now start class. Cheers, Julia Rossi (talk) 09:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peter of Aigueblanche

5x expanded by [[User:{{{author}}}|{{{author}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{author}}}|talk]]). Nominated by Ealdgyth (talk) at 01:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

It's a site that requires registration. If you're paid for a subscription or are a UK library member, you can log in from there. (Some other libraries pay group subs also) It's also available in a printed edition, the link is a courtesy link. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard C. Mangrum

LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)
LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)

Created/expanded by ERcheck (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

John K. Tener

5x expanded by Tasty Poutine (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Samuel Brand

Created/expanded by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Common stingray

Common stingray (Dasyatis pastinaca)
Common stingray (Dasyatis pastinaca)

Created by Yzx (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 23:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Smith Clove Meetinghouse

Two possibilities:

Hurricane Howard (2004)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 19:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

East Layton, Utah

Former East Layton city offices
Former East Layton city offices

Created/expanded by Ntsimp (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hobcaw Barony

Terrace of Hobcaw Barony
Terrace of Hobcaw Barony

Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length, history and references verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Dexter awards and nominations

Created/expanded by Music2611 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Bruce A. Evans

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 16:04, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mongolian presidential election, 2005

5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Orlando Plummer

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Michał Belina Czechowski

Created by NorthernFalcon (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Ken May

5x expanded by pd_THOR (talk). Self nom at 06:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Stac Dhomnuill Chaim

Created by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Is this another one we could save for St. Patrick's Day? Daniel Case (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, run with it now; it's Scottish. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:16, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Desbouvrie

An example image
An example image

Created by Durova (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • I can read too little of ref 5 to be entirely positive, but based on a Durova's track record, I'd be happy to assume good faith. The rest checks out without problems. - Mgm|(talk) 12:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! Yes, that was obviously a typo. Sorry. - Mgm|(talk) 19:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Volunteer Protection Act

Created by SixBlueFish (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have tagged this article with {{cleanup-essay}}, as it reads more like a paper than an encyclopedia article. Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 28

Mahmood Hussein Mattan

Template:DYKsuggestion

- a little more info
- shorter —Mattisse (Talk) 21:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I prefer the second, but drop the 'the' from Somalian. Thanks FruitMonkey (talk) 12:02, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sofia (Swedish singer)

  • ... that Swedish singer Sofia Berntson entered Sweden's Melodifestivalen with the Greek song "Alla" and won the international jury vote for her semi-final?

Created by Grk1011 (talk), Lewisrees (talk). Nominated by Grk1011 (talk) at 18:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

La princesse jaune

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Le timbre d’argent

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 02:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

William G. Hare

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

No. 40 Wing RAF

  • ... that No. 40 Wing RAF (DH.9 aircraft pictured) was credited with destroying the bulk of the Turkish Seventh Army through sustained air attack during the Battle of Armageddon in 1918?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Balla Fasséké

Created by Download (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Lord Chancellor's Department

(checked using User:Shubinator/DYKcheck) Expansion and history verified. Hook confirmed by online source. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edgar E. Clark

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Frank Hodges (trade unionist)

Template:DYKsuggestion

  • Date, length and reference for hook verified. Except I am not sure about the "impromptu" part. Was it "impromptu" or can that be assumed? Since a "huge crowd turned out", it must have been known in advance. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Geer tube

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

There are a lot of cases of companies spending millions to develop products which are ultimately scrapped. Daniel Case (talk) 19:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regenbald

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Les Harris (businessman)

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 27

Arie Posin

  • ... that film director Arie Posin's father did not allow him to watch television as a child despite being a professional filmmaker himself?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Eliminating the coonection assumed by "despite" and making another link would give: "... that film director Arie Posin's father, a professional filmmaker, did not allow him to watch television as a child?" --Wetman (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree - though the website mightn't be considered reliable if reporting news or whatnot, the cited article is a transcript of an interview in which Posin claims this himself. The interview could be fabricated, but the interviewer has actually posted photos of Posin from the interview. —97198 (talk) 09:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Articles created/expanded for Saint Patrick's Day 2009 (March 17)

Garda ar Lár

"Thundering disgrace" is tagged with {{fact}}. Daniel Case (talk) 16:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved with a number of different sources (just in case). Thank you for not giving it a delete vote. --Candlewicke ST # :) 21:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If there aren't enough, yes... --Candlewicke ST # :) 23:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to holding pen. ∗ \ / (⁂) 00:40, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the Street Where You Live (TV series)


In the Name of the Grandfather


Frank Patterson

Created/expanded by Cottonshirt (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Lawrence Bulger

Created by FruitMonkey (talk). Nominated by Ww2censor (talk) at 22:07, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded for April Fool's Day 2009 (April 1)

Main page: Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know

Please suggest hooks at Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know, not here. Royalbroil 14:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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