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[[Image:The Temple of Dakka by Dennis G. Jarvis.jpg|100x100px|right|Temple of Dakka]]
*... that the [[ancient Egypt]]ian temples of '''[[Temple of Dakka|Dakka]]''' ''(pictured)'', '''[[Temple of Maharraqa|Maharraqa]]''' and '''[[Wadi es-Sebua]]''' were dismantled in the 1960s and rebuilt several kilometres away in [[New Wadi es-Sebua]] due to the construction of the [[Aswan Dam]]? -- Three new articles by {{user|Leoboudv}}, triple-nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 23:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


[[Image:Shadow trevally.png|100x100px|right|shadow trevally]]
[[Image:Shadow trevally.png|100x100px|right|shadow trevally]]

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Royal Game of Ur board, c. 2500 BCE
Royal Game of Ur board, c. 2500 BCE

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on September 26

  • ... that the river Lysakerelven forms the border between Bærum and Oslo, Norway, is rated an ecosystem of national importance, and offers walking and cycling trails on both of its banks, from its source all the way down to the Oslofjord? (self-nom) --Leifern (talk) 21:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Khachkar - For Children's Sake
Khachkar - For Children's Sake
Electrician and Mechanic February 1913
Electrician and Mechanic February 1913
  • Not all that interesting, IMO, just a bland statement of fact. —97198 (talk) 12:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the main square in Mexico City or Zocalo has been a venue for rock concerts, skateboarding/BMX events and was the scene of one of Spencer Tunick's photo shoots, where 18,000 Mexicans bared all for the artist? (self nom) Thelmadatter (talk) 16:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
OR
  • ... that the Valmet RM 2 class trams, built in 1956, were only in service for 16 years due to the closure of the Turku tram network in 1972? -- new article self-nom -- Kjet (talk · contribs) 22:37, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 25

Temple of Amada
Temple of Amada
Temple of Derr
Temple of Derr
Actually, there's double-hook potential here, because an article on its neighbour, the Temple of Derr, has been created:
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Date and ref OK; needs 20% expansion. Kablammo (talk) 21:02, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bigger already... Guy (Help!) 21:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length fine now. Nice hook! Iain99Balderdash and piffle 21:18, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me too! Put it on the main. Keeper ǀ 76 21:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 20:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest deleting "serve in"; shorter, and avoids ambiguity. (He was a delegate to HoR; did not serve in it as a representative). Kablammo (talk) 22:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about ...
... that A.U. Fuimaono was the first Delegate from American Samoa to the United States House of Representatives? -- self nom by Scanlan (talk) 00:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, size, ref OK. Kablammo (talk) 01:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The event is this Saturday, September 27 (it would be nice if it were posted that day). I know the content is a little thin right now, but I asked for some collaberative assistance from Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas. — Eoghanacht talk 15:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date and ref are good; support appearance on Saturday (during Western Hemisphere daylight, if possible) but the article needs to be expanded by almost 700 characters to qualify. Please add more text. Kablammo (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Size and date fine; ref behind subscription accepted on good faith. (Jokes successfully resisted) Kablammo (talk) 15:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry, but the article needs to be wikified, it has orphan tag on it, and references like "see article x for references" are not acceptable. Renata (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct as to other refs; the hook ref is however specific. Kablammo (talk) 16:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My impression is that to appear on the main page in DYK section an article should be in generally good condition without major clean up issues. This one is not. Renata (talk) 17:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An orphan tag could probably be hung on a lot of startups. That and the ref issue could easily be rectified; the nominator/author should do that when this nom is revisited. Kablammo (talk) 19:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Size and date fine; offline ref accepted on good faith. Kablammo (talk) 15:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date fine, offline refs accepted on good faith. Image licensing OK. RMHED (talk) 20:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 20:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good article, size and date ok, but source is not clear that multiple examples of his work are owned by Guggenheim. Kablammo (talk) 15:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, reworded: ... that works of Lithuanian painter Kazys Varnelis, owned by museums such as the Guggenheim in New York and Art Institute of Chicago, are said to be a modern interpretation of Lithuanian folk art? 197 characters. Renata (talk) 16:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All good. Kablammo (talk) 16:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Interestingly, although the ref supports the tag, a search of the S.R. Guggenheim website and Guggenheim Bilbao shows no results for this artist. Perhaps work were in the museum on loan as part of a show; perhaps there has been a deaccession. Kablammo (talk) 19:42, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not everything owned is put on display or websites. Usually museums have much larger collections than they are able to display. Everything else is cataloged and goes to storage. Guggenheim NY has very small permanent exposition - most of it is special exhibitions (so that people can comeback and pay exuberant entrance fees all over again). Renata (talk) 22:16, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 3478/900=3.9-fold, not fivefold. We compare only the prose portion of the article, before and after. There's still time to expand it. Art LaPella (talk) 01:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Looks like I made a mistake in the fivefold rule. Looks like I need to review it again since I'm a bit confused. Also expanded a bit much too. Ominae (talk) 03:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article is now expanded to 4283 characters for a 4.8-fold expansion, which is close enough to 5 to be within the gray area. More explanation on Ominae's talk page. Art LaPella (talk) 06:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 9994/9918=1.008-fold, nowhere near five-fold. Did You Know is for new or mostly new articles. Please see #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 01:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the creation of the Defense Intelligence Headquarters was hindered by lack of cooperation and subordination from the Japanese Defense Agency's intelligence branches in the 1980s before it was founded in 1997? Ominae (talk) 07:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Self-nom. Article expanded five-fold.[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 19:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article too short. Needs ~50% expansion to qualify. Kablammo (talk) 19:45, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that at the funeral of Sir Anthony Browne, friends were given gold rings engraved on the outside with 'we die'? New article, self-nom, 3296 chars. I've translated the "we die" from the auld english in which it's given in the article; if people think it'd be best to use the original thats fine. Ironholds 02:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Battle of Blanco Canyon marked the first time a foreign military force had penetrated to the heart of the Comancheria since the Comanche rose to power on the Great Plains, and marked the beginning of the end of the Comanche as a free people? Less than ten years later they would all surrender and be on reservations...JohninMaryland (talk) 11:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Incorporate 2d sentence into hook, or (preferably) delete it; it is not needed anyway, and hook is too long. Kablammo (talk) 19:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Battle of Blanco Canyon marked the first time a foreign military force had penetrated to the heart of the Comancheria since the Comanche rose to power on the Great Plains; less than ten years later they would all surrender and be on reservations? JohninMaryland (talk) 08:27, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

or::::::*... that the Battle of Blanco Canyon marked the first time any American had explored that part of the Llano Estacado in Texas? JohninMaryland (talk) 11:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


  • Length, date, reference, and image license verified. Gutza T T+ 19:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 21:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 24

Alternate hook:
... that vaporized hydrogen peroxide was used to disinfect buildings contaminated in the 2001 anthrax attacks in the U.S.?
  • Nominated for deletion but expected to survive. Art LaPella (talk) 01:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)Closed. The article survived. Art LaPella (talk) 02:31, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date and size OK; fair reading of the reference supports hook (says in one place substance was used for anthrax decontamination purposes in those attacks, and in another that an exemption was granted for use in two buildings so contaminated). Kablammo (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great to see another science DYK entry, which we really need for balance and variety. I'd prefer the second hook. --BorgQueen (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, ref, size ok. Kablammo (talk) 23:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues I only count 1442 characters, which isn't far short of the required 1500. You have plenty of time to get this up to the required length. Everything else checks out. – Ikara talk → 22:11, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Fact in the article needs an inline citation. —97198 (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that during testing, the infamous M247 Sergeant York (pictured) locked onto an exhaust fan, shot into the ground instead of its target, and even threatened to fire on the high-ranking review panel in nearby stands? Maury (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Expansion, date, and public domain image verified. Offline reference accepted in good faith. That's a nice rewrite you've done there; it's a nice article! Cunard (talk) 00:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, history and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 01:23, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the weroance (chief) of the Appomattoc tribe, Perecute, personally led Thomas Batts and Robert Fallom on an expedition in 1671 to become the first Europeans to set foot within what is now West Virginia? new article, self nom -- Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
David Bowie in 2006
David Bowie in 2006
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 19:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date OK, size adequate; no direct support in article for the "only one of a few" statement. Kablammo (talk) 13:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the problem I think. RMHED (talk) 20:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good. I added "both" to hook. Kablammo (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that, after the rebellious Tang Dynasty general Zhu Tao was defeated by Wang Wujun and Li Baozhen, he immediately executed two subordinates who had suggested that he battle Wang and Li? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 03:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that, in high school, Matt Centrowitz was the first New Yorker to run two miles in under nine minutes? (new article, self-nom) Truthanado (talk) 02:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT hook ... that Matt Centrowitz was the number one high school mile runner in America in 1973? (new article, self-nom) Truthanado (talk) 00:12, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Both of these facts need inline citations directly following each sentence, not just at the end of the paragraph. —97198 (talk) 01:48, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref added to each sentence. Would you please re-evaluate. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 12:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 21:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alternate:
Date and size OK; one source, in Russian, for article.Kablammo (talk) 14:02, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Texel Disaster in August 1940 resulted in the deaths of 300 men?
or ... that the Texel Disaster of 1940 resulted in severe damage to HMS Express and the sinking of two other ships who went to her aid? - new article, self-nom. Main reference is offline but the other online refs in the article back it up - Dumelow (talk) 15:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date & length fine; refs AGFd. —97198 (talk) 01:54, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 21:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 23

  • Length, date and fact referencing verified. Jamie☆S93 17:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Midtown Tower
Midtown Tower
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 21:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, expansion length, and fact referencing all verified. Jamie☆S93 17:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cubs Win flag
Cubs Win flag
  • Length, date and fact referencing verified. I added a "?" mark to the end of the hook. Jamie☆S93 15:13, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date & ref verified. —97198 (talk) 07:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified for both. The second article doesn't mention the hook fact, but that should be fine. Jamie☆S93 18:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Doyle Racing's 1997 Riley & Scott Mk III-Oldsmobile
Doyle Racing's 1997 Riley & Scott Mk III-Oldsmobile
  • Length, date and fact referencing verified. Jamie☆S93 15:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. Jamie☆S93 02:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • That works fine, thanks. Prose isn't my strongest point :-) Giggy (talk) 06:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Singapore, a.k.a. "Disneyland with the death penalty"
Singapore, a.k.a. "Disneyland with the death penalty"
  • Length, date, referencing and image license verified. Jamie☆S93 02:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. Jamie☆S93 21:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
two alternative hooks from extra material I've just added
For clarity, both these alternative hooks can be referenced from The Guardian obituary. David Underdown (talk) 15:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing all verified. Jamie☆S93 15:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Clifton Hall
Clifton Hall
  • ... that in August 2007, millionaire businessman Anwar Rashid and his family left Clifton Hall (pictured), their £3.6M home in Nottingham, because they thought it was haunted? -- new article self-nom by Nev1 (talk) 20:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and fact referencing verified. I added a "(pictured)" since there is an accompanying image for the hook. Thanks, Jamie☆S93 02:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Only 1298 characters in the article, still time to expand it to the required 1500 or more. Truthanado (talk) 02:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I actually count 1500 characters of prose text (including spaces) which should meet the requirements. Article creation date verified, and French book ref accepted on good faith. Thanks, Jamie☆S93 15:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Arctic landscape
Arctic landscape
  • Length, date, referencing and image license verified. Jamie☆S93 00:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Execution of Robert Tresilian
Execution of Robert Tresilian
  • Length, date, and image license verified. Online "need to login" reference accepted AGF. Jamie☆S93 19:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Sorry, I cannot find the hook properly sourced by an inline reference in the article. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in astronomy can find it? Truthanado (talk) 02:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah. It's Sołtan, A. (1982). ""Masses of quasars",". Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society. 200: 115–122. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help). Maybe you should get some science editors to work here? ScienceApologist (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Watchers of Main Page material are often condemned for not being numerous enough, so come on in, the water's fine. Art LaPella (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not all that familiar with the scientific field when it comes to Wikipedia, but I think everything looks fine here. Length, date and fact referencing all verified. Cheers, Jamie☆S93 22:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Sir Francis Gawdy, his father and his two older half-brothers were all baptised Thomas Gawdy, although Francis had his name changed at his confirmation? New article, self-nom, 1690-odd chars. Ironholds 13:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Svalbard
Svalbard
  • ... that the cause of the Svenskehuset Tragedy, where seventeen men died on Svalbard (see map) in the winter of 1872–73, was until recently a mystery? -- self-nom -- Lampman (talk) 13:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and image license verified. Non-English references accepted on good faith, although I was able to verify the hook with the English ref. Jamie☆S93 21:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and fact referencing verified. Jamie☆S93 21:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
René Dagron
René Dagron
  • Length, date, fact referencing and image license verified. The hook was a little overlinked, so I removed less-relevant links, like the term "history" and the beginning date. Thanks, Jamie☆S93 21:03, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Jamie for your help and great suggestion. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, references, and image license verified. Gutza T T+ 19:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 22

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues This hasn't been on ITN yet but is very likely to. If it does, it's ineligible. Daniel Case (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length & ref are fine. —97198 (talk) 01:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date & ref check out. —97198 (talk) 07:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that during the murder trial of Dr Thomas Lodwig, he claimed that he had used the poison potassium chloride to enhance the effect of painkillers rather than to kill his patient? -- new article, self-nom Malick78 (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, fair use images cannot be used on main page. Dr.K. (talk) 06:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not here, either. Removed. --74.14.18.100 (talk) 08:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But surely the article itself is still a possible candidate for DYK, regardless of image? --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 21:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the hook and article, but not the image, are candidates. "Unwritten" Rule H1. Art LaPella (talk) 04:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok i see. I thought it was being failed on the basis of that image. Here's hoping it gets put in! --SteelersFanUK06 ReplyOnMine! 11:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
alt.: ... that the 17th century gardeners of the Izmaylovo Estate managed to grow figs, coconuts and melons but failed to breed silk worms? NVO (talk) 23:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the 108.1 kilometres (67.2 mi) Canal de l'Ourcq (pictured) provides over half of the 380,000 cubic metres (500,000 cu yd) of water used daily by the city of Paris for cleaning public works? -- new article, self-nom. Lazulilasher (talk) 20:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article split from 2006 Pacific hurricane season, expanded from 532 → 3362 = 6x expansion. Date checks out as well. However there is currently no inline citation after the hook in the article. Also, fixed typo in name – Ikara talk → 22:25, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't split off from that article; I wrote it from scratch, so it's a new page. That aside, that fact is indeed referenced to ref #1, so I don't understand what's needed. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The split is not an issue as the section has been expanded sufficiently. The hook in the article needs to have an inline citation at end of the sentence, not two sentences later. The first reference is sufficient, it just need to be moved forward to the end of the hook – Ikara talk → 23:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see why it can't be considered cited by the source two sentences in front of the fact, but I changed it, nonetheless. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length and reference all check out. Reference quotes peak wind speed at 35 knots which works out to 40 mph (65 km/h) as in the article. I also changed "winds" to "wind speed" in the hook for clarity, feel free to change it back if you think it is unnecessary – Ikara talk → 00:09, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and references verified. Cunard (talk) 03:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rather short at the moment, at 655 bytes of text, but with plenty of time to add to. I would suggest "serious arm injury", and "...Olympics, but recovered in time...". Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where is it possible to count the amount of text in bytes? --SpeedKing (talk) 15:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC) Found it. --SpeedKing (talk) 15:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Latvian basketball player Ieva Tāre suffered a serious arm injury during the qualification for 2008 Summer Olympics, however, recovered in time for the actual Olympics? --SpeedKing (talk) 15:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Readable prose size has reached 1 500 bytes. --SpeedKing (talk) 17:53, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded sufficiently. Suitably referenced to Latvian website. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 16:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Playing bears
Playing bears
alt-hooks (split into two separate hooks):
Ludvig Holberg sculpture
Ludvig Holberg sculpture
OR


Ready for DYK. It'd be nice if the article didn't rely on only one reference, but that's not a big deal. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The National Palace in Mexico City
The National Palace in Mexico City
Looks good. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 21

Temple of Dakka
Temple of Dakka
shadow trevally
shadow trevally
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length, date, and public domain image verified, but the reference is inadequate because it doesn't even mention shadow trevally. Cunard (talk) 05:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It quite clearly states on page 7: "The biomass stabilized at an average of 153 g/m2 between 53 and 193 days after scuttling. Important variations were observed after this first colonization phase, due to the occasional presence of Carangidae (unidentified Carangidae and Carangoides dinema), large Lutjanus argentimaculatus and Sphyraenidae..." Quite obviously scientific papers don't use common names, that is simply common knowledge. The statement describes the species as the second phase of colonisation after scuttling... can't be too much clearer. Kare Kare (talk) 11:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry that I didn't see that. Reference also verified. Cunard (talk) 20:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified. Print source accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 05:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Philip Goldberg
Philip Goldberg
  • Length, date, image licensing and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 22:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article lacks inline cites. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 15:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As the original poster pointed out, the fact is in the title of both obits, which I've now brought into the article and added official records of apopintment 9those these don't particualrly mention the solicitor side of things). David Underdown (talk) 16:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. RMHED (talk) 22:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that James W. Cannon gave a complete solution for John Milnor's "double suspension" problem? article by Nsk92 (talk · contribs), nom by Royalbroil (talk · contribs). A great new articles on mathematicians are very hard to find - what a find! We should make a strong attempt to get this article on DYK, switching to another fact if there's issues with this fact. Royalbroil 04:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree we need some maths articles but I found this hard going and tricky to find (and understand) stuff in the public domain. However I would suggest a hook could be written about cannon helping to explain the shape of trees using this which is more approachable. Thought: If the author could write an into to the maths (even if it was OR - ish) then that would be good. Hope this helps Victuallers (talk) 08:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(ALT) ... that James W. Cannon wrote a research paper that speculated on the large-scale growth patterns of biological organisms such as trees? Royalbroil 18:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Another ALT) ... that a paper co-written by a mathematician James W. Cannon suggested that the "negatively curved" nature of microscopic growth laws of biological organisms is responsible for such macroscopic phenomena as the highly folded and highly connected structure of the brain tissue? Nsk92 (talk) 02:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Revised) ... that James W. Cannon co-wrote a paper suggesting that the "negatively curved" nature of microscopic growth laws of bio-organisms is responsible for the highly folded structure of the brain tissue? Nsk92 (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date and ref are good; text exclusive of infobox, box score, and refs < 1500 chars. Kablammo (talk) 12:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh yes, that would be a problem. I've expanded the article, and according to Microsoft Word, the body of the article, minus the box score, infobox, refs and lead should be over 1700 characters now. I will look to try and further expand before it would come up for the main page, just in case. Resolute 23:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now 2404 characters. Art LaPella (talk) 01:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And therefore now fine. Kablammo (talk) 02:04, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that The City Sun, a black-owned newspaper, told David Dinkins, New York City's first African American mayor, that he was "beginning to look like a wimp"? (self nom) — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 00:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Date, size, cite for hook all good. Kablammo (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 05:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Revised) *... that Vladas Česiūnas was demoted to teaching at a children's sports school after his failed 1979 West German defection to avoid Soviet embarrassment prior to the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow? Chris (talk) 23:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest deleting "back". Unneeded. Kablammo (talk) 22:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Chris (talk) 22:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Nice article! Cunard (talk) 05:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While the cited statements refer to individual properties rather than the district as a whole, the hook is literally true, and a fair statement for the district in light of the number of individual properties which are stated to show transitional features. Date and size OK, source accepted on good faith. Kablammo (talk) 22:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Hyman Golden was co-founder and chairman of Snapple, which got its name from one of its early products, a carbonated apple juice that had a "snapply apple taste"? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 19:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 06:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that George Ashley Campbell decided to use loading coils for improving telephone line quality only after he realized that the manholes were the right distance apart to allow this cheaper solution? major expansion (note histmerge tag requested) self-nom by SpinningSpark 19:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length/expansion, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Louis Timothee became the first public librarian in the United States of America? new article, self nominated by --Doug Coldwell talk 16:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good article, is the reference a personal website or blog? Kablammo (talk) 22:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reference is: Hudson, p. 41 Louis Timothee had served as the first librarian of America's first public library. See Bibliography. --Doug Coldwell talk 21:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that reference, taken on good faith, works. Date and size OK. Kablammo (talk) 22:07, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Pls mention the country. --74.12.122.145 (talk) 16:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done, reworded it to avoid 3 consecutive wikilinks as well. Basement12 (T.C) 16:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All good. Kablammo (talk) 22:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that former Thai Minister of Education M.L. Pin Malakul created a slide rule for calculating the day of week of any given date despite being required to study Sanskrit rather than mathematics? -- new article self-nom by Paul_012 (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added some wikilinks. --74.12.122.145 (talk) 16:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and date verified, but the hook is missing a reference in the article. Cunard (talk) 05:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the derelict brig Polly drifted over six months and more than 2,000 miles across the Atlantic with its stranded crew? (new article, self-nomination) --User:Tradermort (User talk:Tradermort) 04:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting article. But "stranded" means washed ashore (at least in a nautical context), which is not what happened here. The footnote to the print resource links to a Google books entry for a different book (also cited elsewhere in article). More comments on talk page of article. Kablammo (talk) 09:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I italicised the ship's name. --74.12.122.145 (talk) 16:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
References fixed. How about:
  • ... that the damaged and demasted brig Polly drifted over six months and more than 2,000 miles across the Atlantic with its surviving crew? Tradermort (User talk:Tradermort) 17:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. Kablammo (talk) 17:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Fact needs an inline citation, but even using the source for the following sentence, "57" was not explicitly mentioned as far as I could see. —97198 (talk) 01:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Tang Dynasty general Zhu Ci, angry that he was removed from command due to his brother Zhu Tao's rebellion, later tried to become emperor of his own state of Qin? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 00:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and reference verified. Gutza T T+ 19:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified. Offline source accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 06:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Only 1315 characters of non-list prose. —97198 (talk) 01:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds better to me than "...Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker is currently working on it's first full-length album..."; don't you agree? (LOL, they're playing them on the radio as I type this!) Marchije (talk) 07:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Either sounds OK to me, assuming "it's" becomes "its". Art LaPella (talk) 22:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on September 20

  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and date are okay, but the references in the article do not say that he was the winning pitcher. Cunard (talk) 03:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference from Seattle Mariners titled "Mariners Firsts" lists Laxton as the team's first winning pitcher, and the box score of the game shows him as the winning pitcher in the game played on that date. Alansohn (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 20:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about just "resulted in a papal schism" (as many would associate "the" Papal Schism with what Wikipedia calls the Western Schism)? Kablammo (talk) 11:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"outbreak"? You make papal schism sounds like an infectious disease... :) --74.12.122.145 (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speaker iconThat Mysterious Rag

  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and date verified, but the reference doesn't mention "That Mysterious Rag" at all. Cunard (talk) 04:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • My bad; the wrong source had been linked in that citation. It's fixed now. The source states "That Mysterious Rag", one of Irving Berlin's earliest successes, was still popular in the early 1920s. Eliot's parody of it pushes the tense little dramatic dialogue over the edge… and quotes both the song and the poem for comparison. DurovaCharge! 08:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, history and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of itself, not very interesting. Perhaps identify him as an architect, name a well-known project, or childhood friendship with Al Smith. Kablammo (talk) 23:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Haha! Philestine! :P. ALT ... that Andrew Rebori once referred to modern buildings as "steel and glass upside-down cakes"?Article by Jarvishunt, nom by --Gwib (talk) 22:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified. Online reference with limited access accepted in good faith. Cunard (talk) 04:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The hook would be more interesting if it said why he got the Silver Star, or some other notable fact (MBA with 200 combat missions?). And the article would be improved if it did not track the structure and phrasing of its (cited) primary source so closely. Kablammo (talk) 23:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find the main reason why Carns got the Silver Star. But I believe that the Silver Star makes the hook interesting because the Silver Star is the third highest military decoration that can be awarded to a member of any branch of the US Armed Forces. And I've changed the structure of some sentences. I don't think the bio track the structure and phrasing of its primary source. In fact, the bio describes something that its primary source doesn't describe – the life of Carns after his retirement from the US Air Force in 1994. AdjustShift (talk) 20:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. Even though it doesn't say why he got the Silver Star, the hook is interesting enough. Cunard (talk) 04:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK; print reference accepted on good faith. Kablammo (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Inline cite needed for hook; only one cite in article; please avoid "hugely", facts are sufficient. Kablammo (talk) 21:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
wikified and shortened with tweaks by Victuallers (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably the foundation stone was for the dam which impounded the lake, was it not? Kablammo (talk) 21:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was an old earthen dam which got washed away and the new dam was built to create the reservoir which is called the Fateh Sagar Lake, named after Maharana Fateh Singh, as mentioned in the article.--Nvvchar (talk) 01:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ... that Fateh Sagar Lake was re-created in 1888 by re-constructing an earlier earth dam which got washed away?--Nvvchar (talk) 02:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)A revised Hook for consideration[reply]
} Length, reference and history verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:05, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not established or increased in size 5x within last five days; article is a list split off from main article. Kablammo (talk) 08:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and date verified but the article doesn't seem to say that Myna Potts turned her father's general store into a museum. Cunard (talk) 04:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I clarified the point by explaining that Potts turned the general store into a museum in both the text and the footnote.Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for addressing the issue! Length, date, and reference verified. Cunard (talk) 04:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Can't verify due to poor footnote formatting. Daniel Case (talk) 14:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 19

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Sources verify that she was the co-hostess but say nothing about Yugoslavia being picked to host as a result of winning the year before. Daniel Case (talk) 14:02, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is one of the rules of the contest, but I'll track down a source for it. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 14:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. I added a source for the winner hosting the following year and have also sectioned the article to make it look nicer. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 14:44, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems strange to say one "built" a lake. Kablammo (talk) 21:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mention of the Governor's name is only to emphasise that it was during his rule as Governor of India that the Vihar Lake, the most needed water supply facility for Bombay (Mumbai) was built.--Nvvchar (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it can be chnaged. Not an issue.
I feel that the term "created" is more appropriate than "built" -RavichandarMy coffee shop 13:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ... that Vihar Lake, the largest in Mumbai, was created in 1860 when John, Lord Elphinstone was Governor of Madras, to meet urgent drinking-water needs? Hook reworded--Nvvchar (talk) 02:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have a doubt here. The hook states that John Elphinstone was the Governor of Madras in 1860. The Vihar Lake is situated in Mumbai. The Governor of Madras had no jurisdiction over Mumbai. So how come are the two related?-RavichandarMy coffee shop 08:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Refrences quoted in the article mention only about the Governor John Elphinston and not about where he was posted in 1860. He may have been holding additonal charge of the Bombay province also at that time. The name of Madras was suggested by User:Art LaPella as a comment on the Hook. I have therefore shortened the hook to just state as under.
      • ... that Vihar Lake, the largest in Mumbai, was created in 1860?--Nvvchar (talk) 04:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • That version is fine (after I added the question mark), but I didn't suggest the name of Madras. Madras was first mentioned in the version that starts "that in 1860...", which isn't mine. I simply rearranged that version. Art LaPella (talk) 06:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • Fine. The Wikipedia article on Lord Elphinstone suggests that he was the Governor of Bombay in 1860. Lord Elphinstone was Governor of Madras sometime prior to being appointed as Governor of Bombay. There hasn't been any record of a Governor in British India having been in-charge of the administration of two Presidencies at the same time, though.-RavichandarMy coffee shop 10:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Neither of these hooks are terribly interesting. The first one basically says that, like thousands of baby-boomers in Western culture, he did the whole late-1960s thing. The second ... well, everyone has to learn the job somewhere. Is there something else we can use? Daniel Case (talk) 13:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, how about:

Articles created/expanded on September 18

  • ... that Bristol Virginia Utilities is a leader in technology with its fiber-optic broadband network? New article by Zopheus, nomination by --Gwib (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT ... that Bristol Virginia Utilities has approximately 577 miles of distribution lines and 29 miles of transmission lines in their electric system? New article by Zopheus, nomination by --Gwib (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT ... that a system known as Passive Optical Network (PON) was successfully deployed to over 6000 customers in a matter of two years by Bristol Virginia Utilities? New article by Zopheus, nomination by --Gwib (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The third and particularly first versions ('leader in technology') sound a little promotional to be on the main page, while the second is sourced only to the company's own website. I'd welcome a second opinion though, or perhaps there's a more neutral-sounding and independently sourced fact we can use? Olaf Davis | Talk 15:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT ... that the wastewater treatment plant of Bristol Virginia Utilities is jointly owned and operated by the City of Bristol, Tennessee?New article by Zopheus, nomination by --Gwib (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice hook, but that's also sourced to the company's website. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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