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* [[Anthony Kershaw]] - (also includes material added by [[User:David Underdown]]) -- [[User:One pound|One pound]] ([[User talk:One pound|talk]])
* [[Anthony Kershaw]] - (also includes material added by [[User:David Underdown]]) -- [[User:One pound|One pound]] ([[User talk:One pound|talk]])
:*[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|18px]] Not sure who approved this one, but it's scarcely even a x2 expansion. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 04:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|18px]] Not sure who approved this one, but it's scarcely even a x2 expansion. [[User:Gatoclass|Gatoclass]] ([[User talk:Gatoclass|talk]]) 04:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

::: Well, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=219002082&oldid=219001631 you] picked it for the next update, and then [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=219009376&oldid=219009115 you] "threw it back" 50 minutes later. A pity you did not include the original commentary by [[User:Thingg|Thingg]] and [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] when you "threw it back".

:::Anyway, I am not sure where you get "scarcely even a x2 expansion" from. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anthony_Kershaw&diff=218660842&oldid=211725650 Here] is the relevant diff from the version before the expansion to the version today. I make that 1305 characters (excluding headings, references, categories, etc) to 5969 characters. Or, to put it another way, an additional 4664 characters, amounting to an expansion of 4.57 times. Sure, you can rules-lawyer me on the 5 times expansion requirement, but I think it is unrecognisable from the stubby article it was before. I wonder why I bother. -- [[User:One pound|One pound]] ([[User talk:One pound|talk]]) 22:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


{{*mp}}... that '''[[Allied submarine usage in the Pacific War|Allied submarines]]''' in the [[Pacific War]] were responsible for over half of [[Empire of Japan|Japan]]'s [[Ship transport|merchant marine]] losses? *[[Allied submarine usage in the Pacific War]] - {{user|Nick Dowling}}, nom by {{user|Work permit}}
{{*mp}}... that '''[[Allied submarine usage in the Pacific War|Allied submarines]]''' in the [[Pacific War]] were responsible for over half of [[Empire of Japan|Japan]]'s [[Ship transport|merchant marine]] losses? *[[Allied submarine usage in the Pacific War]] - {{user|Nick Dowling}}, nom by {{user|Work permit}}

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Articles created/expanded on June 14

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Articles created/expanded on June 13

A red link on the main page? Pls turn Bakers Creek, Queensland blue. Thanks. --74.14.23.19 (talk) 04:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your wish is granted sire. ;) Moondyne 05:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PS: 65th anniversary today. ;) Moondyne 10:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Jeita Grotto’s White Chamber houses the world's longest stalactite measuring 8.2m? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Eli+ 22:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that in Korean cuisine chicken feet, called dakbal are often roasted and covered with hot and spicy gochujang-based sauce and served as a side dish to accompany alcoholic beverages, especially soju? (self-nom, substantially rewritten and expanded article)--Chef Tanner (talk) 21:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • FYI :At first glance, the article does not seem to be expanded fivefold to people. However, Chris expanded more than fivefold fo the article including inserting history, staple foods from at zero and relocated lists of specific dishes to List of Korean dishes.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
George Haden
This one seems more snappy since it's not unusual for films to take a long time in shooting; the dislocation is arguably more beguiling to a reader. --Rodhullandemu 00:09, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the appeal of the first one was more supposed to be "it's currently filming". —97198 talk 03:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've boldfaced the link for ya. --74.13.125.77 (talk) 04:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
location of the 1983 Coalinga earthquake
location of the 1983 Coalinga earthquake


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Articles created/expanded on June 12

I fixed one bare reference (just showed URL), but there remains one more. doncram (talk) 00:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
oh dear ... you haven't said "that", but "what" ... well done. nice hookVictuallers (talk) 21:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like this hook, too. But some policy wonk will ask for a hook with "definite facts that are mentioned in the article". Hope I'm wrong. --74.13.125.103 (talk) 05:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Robert Sterling Yard
Robert Sterling Yard
  • Hook length, date, reference, and five-fold expansion verified. --JamieS93 20:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:Swing out to call ferry 600x600 100KB.jpg
  • Alt: ... that penetrating trauma by a high-velocity object causes a shock wave that forces tissues out of place, creating a temporary cavity and damaging tissue? (but I like the disgusting one better :-P ) delldot talk 08:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've trimmed the length - should be OK now. Vishnava talk 05:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 11

Map showing location of the 1992 Indonesia earthquake
Map showing location of the 1992 Indonesia earthquake
I notice there are two bare references (just show URL). Could those be formatted properly? doncram (talk) 00:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Jeita Grotto’s White Chamber houses the world's longest stalactite measuring 8.2m? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Eli+ 06:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Everything is sourced.--Bedford Pray 23:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the Planchas de Plata district was the site of Mexico's first silver rush in 1736,[1] how could the 1859 Virginia City Historic District be where the first silver rush took place? The silver article states silver has been known since ancient times and has long been valued as a precious metal. Someone must have rushed towards it before they did in Virginia City. Also, [2] does not seem independent of Virginia City Historic District. The references should be third-party published sources. Bebestbe (talk) 00:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
#2 is a nomination form for the reasons why the historic district should be placed on the National Register of Historic Places, which the National Park Service accepted, so they had no problems with its accuracy. If its proved that there was another silver rush before it, then the hook can be amended, which it appears to have been, then let's revise the hook.--Bedford Pray 03:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Chase Promenade
Chase Promenade
Removed image. As a work of copyrighted public art, no photograph primarily of it taken in the US can possibly be free per US copyright law as freedom of panorama doesn't cover statuary sculpture or murals. I'll have to list it for deletion at Commons as well. Daniel Case (talk) 02:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added a different picture which doesn't focus on any particular piece of artwork.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article moved to more English-friendly title, would suggest:... that the Fortified Area of Silesia was a series of Polish fortifications, constructed in Upper Silesia along the interbellum border with Germany? self-nom by Tymek ALT by Johnbod (talk) 22:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
New York City Police Museum
New York City Police Museum
  • Looks like a fivefold expansion. Length, date, and ref verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 20:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • alternate: *... that Y1, a strain of tobacco containing twice as much nicotine as typical strains, was developed by Brown & Williamson so they could make low-tar cigarettes without reducing the nicotine content? Thatcher 00:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either one would be approved. Although, I personally like the first one better. -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with #1 is that it was not actually illegal to grow Y1. It was illegal to export the seeds from the US to Brazil because the tobacco company did not apply for the right permits. But it was legal to grow and re-import for use in US cigarettes. Thatcher 01:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I didn't see that. The alternate should work then.--RyRy5 (talk) 04:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 08:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is 207 characters long. It needs to be 200 characters or less. --RyRy5 (talk) 05:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just drop "Huguenot exile and secretary to Samuel Pepys,". 7 characters should be no big deal, eh? --74.13.129.8 (talk) 06:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt: ... that Paul Lorrain more than doubled his prison income by publishing dubious Confessions of the condemned at Newgate Prison, around the turn of the 17th century? -- RyRy5 (talk) 09:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "circa 1700" is the turn of the 18th century. --Wetman (talk) 18:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let's add Pepys back - notability helps a hook & he dates the sentence ... 179 characters by my count:
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues No inline citation of current hook. Look at the 2nd paragraph, at the bottom, of the lead. -- RyRy5 (talk) 08:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You forgot to look down further in the article, where this information is indeed sourced (to Associated Press). (Per WP:LEAD), no need to repeat the cite for the exact same info in the lead if it is sourced later in the article. Cirt (talk) 16:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • In any event I added the exact same cite to the WP:LEAD as well, just so there is no confusion. So now it is cited both in the WP:LEAD and within the article body itself. Cirt (talk) 17:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the clarification. Length, date and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is just too long at 204 characters. Dropping either "scheduled" or "regular" (I'd recommend "scheduled" be removed) would bring it under 200 characters. Thingg 13:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Thingg for your suggestion. Dropped "general" and "scheduled" and replaced "has been made available" with "is open". Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 14:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is 241 characters long. It needs to be 200 characters or less. -- RyRy5 (talk) 05:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook is grammatically tortured. Also, those unfamiliar with baseball will have no idea what this means. BuddingJournalist 13:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • That seems better. I'll use the alternate. -- RyRy5 (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If a kid doesn't like his entry-level contract offered by his first club, he goes back to college for another year and hope another team will draft him in a later year. This is not uncommon. --74.13.125.103 (talk) 05:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, this pitcher has a total of 17 games played in his MLB career, with no special accomplishments, clearly not a notable figure in baseball. AfD is imminent. --74.13.125.103 (talk) 05:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
According to this, if a player plays at least one game of Major League Baseball, which Pete Young did, it is considered notable. --RyRy5 (talk) 05:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the link. I never knew that the standard can be so low. --74.14.23.19 (talk) 04:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 10

Why not use the simple future tense? --74.13.125.103 (talk) 05:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 01:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Montgolfier Balloon
The Montgolfier Balloon
How do you plan to relate the hook to the suggested picture? The Montgolfier brothers weren't condemned criminals, were they? :) BTW, pls don't hide the country's name. --74.14.21.182 (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We can skip the picture:
ALT... that Louis XVI of France had originally decreed that condemned criminals be the pilots to attempt the first free flight with human passengers in the history of ballooning? - by User:AndrewDressel nom by --Work permit
Or perhaps use
ALT... that Louis XVI of France had originally decreed that condemned criminals be the pilots to attempt the first free flight with human passengers (pictured) in the history of ballooning? - by User:AndrewDressel nom by --Work permit
    • We'd better be sure the "decree" actually existed before displaying this on the Main Page.--Wetman (talk) 16:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Zachary Taylor National Cemetery
Zachary Taylor National Cemetery
"the United States owns..."? Do you mean the U.S. federal government? --74.14.21.182 (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I mean the federa; government.--Bedford Pray 10:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*... that a gas explosion and coal mine collapse (location pictured) in Ukraine caused the shutdown of 22 other coal mines in the country for safety inspections? Not true, developments show.

Alt: ... that Ukranian president Viktor Yushchenko criticized the country's 2008 coal mine collapse (location pictured) as a failing of Ukraine's government policy? New article, by myself and with help by many others. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 21:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On ITN right now. --74.14.21.182 (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True but 1) there's no rule that prohibits an article from being DYK and ITN simultaneously and 2), by the time this gets to DYK in four or five days, it'll be off the main page for ITN. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 22:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True but it's an unwritten rule not to double feature the same things on the main page. The idea is not to let someone hoard space on the main page without doing more work. :) Let someone else take the precious space! --74.13.125.103 (talk) 04:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sheesh, okay. By now, however, it's almost off ITN (it's @ the bottom), and thus will soon be off. May I then have this hook featured on DYK's precious space? BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 12:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See? Now it's off the main page. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 19:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure why this article should be showcased on the main page twice. A 5X expansion since it left ITN? --74.14.23.19 (talk) 04:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's true, it has not held a five-fold expansion since ITN. However, it was started on 10 June [actually 9 June, but wasn't over word count min. until the 10th), and is over 1,500 charcters and has inline cites (lots 'o' 'em), and even a picture. And yes, this article was on ITN, but with a drastically different fact (one about the death toll) than this hook. In my view, it's fair, since this article is no longer on ITN and fits all other DYK requirements. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 12:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jean Miélot
Jean Miélot
  • Length, date and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 08:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Irish architect Thomas Duff designed St. Patrick's School in Belfast, believed to be the city's last surviving gothic building? (new article, self nom) by Fribbler (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and reference verified. JamieS93 20:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
British is a disambiguation page. You wanna link to British people or United Kingdom? --74.14.21.182 (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I meant British people :). Seraphim♥Whipp 09:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article shouldn't be marked as a stub, according to the selection criteria. Fribbler (talk) 11:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article is currently marked as a stub which means the article is currently ineligible. -- RyRy5 (talk) 11:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Easily fixed - stub tag removed (an article of that length isn't a stub, anyway). Neıl 13:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1598 character article, not a stub, date and ref verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 21:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing; I'd forgotten that I'd left the stub tag on it. Seraphim♥Whipp 19:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. BobAmnertiopsisChitChat Me! 13:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article needs a lot of work. It largely consists of original research and unsourced statements, with the word "most" and "usually" thrown around liberally. Controversy section is quite odd, focusing on one specific recent example. BuddingJournalist 14:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added a whole bunch more citations, and (I hope) gotten rid of most of the "most" and "usually". (Ironically, a Google search turns up so many problem sets that it's hard to find general information about them.) What do you think now? -Oreo Priest talk 16:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not seeing much of a change in the "most" and "usually". The added sources are just random university problem set pages...to back up your statements, you'll probably need citations to academic studies about problem sets. BuddingJournalist 01:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • They aren't randomly added specific problem sets, they're syllabi explaining what a problem set is and how it will work in a specific course. I managed to find one book reference, but it didn't cover all the details because it was from the TA's point of view. As I said before, unfortunately, if there are any sources about problem sets as a whole, they're impossible to find, buried beneath the innumerable specific problem sets. Try a Google search and you'll see what I mean. At least the hook is now cited. -Oreo Priest talk 10:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "they're syllabi explaining what a problem set is and how it will work in a specific [emphasis mine] course." Exactly. So how do these back up your generic statements like "There is usually no further research involved" or "It is essentially a list of several mildly difficult problems" (mildly difficult???) "if there are any sources about problem sets as a whole, they're impossible to find" Google is not the only place to conduct research. The hook is far from interesting, in my opinion. BuddingJournalist 17:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dutch is a disambiguation page. Wanna link to Netherlands or Dutch (ethnic group)? --74.14.21.182 (talk) 04:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, that is a fivefold expansion. Length, date and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
René Pleven
René Pleven
  • ... that in 1939 René Pleven (pictured) stated "Politics do not interest me", only to join the Free French exile government and thus launch a long political career in 1941?
  • Note: te second hook is 209 characters. Thingg 15:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first hook is quite interesting! Royalbroil 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alt hook suggestion, rearranging within first hook, seems better to me:
  • ... that in 1939 René Pleven (pictured) stated "Politics do not interest me", only to join the Free French exile government in 1941 and thus launch a long political career? doncram (talk) 23:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Christ Episcopal Church, Tarrytown, NY
Christ Episcopal Church, Tarrytown, NY

Articles created/expanded on June 9

  • ... (Dogs in religion) that both China and Bolivia celebrate "the birthday of all dogs", although on different days? Article split off from Dog on June 9, not sure if that counts for this. I also couldn't find a way to include the name of the new article in the question. I wrote most of the article. Steve Dufour (talk) 20:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
a juvenile Mountain Gorilla
a juvenile Mountain Gorilla
Length and reference verified. For the book reference, deeplink to the page itself if you can. Daniel Case (talk) 15:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thanks for the pointer. Bláthnaid 18:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verfied. Make the latter inline with {{cite web}}. Daniel Case (talk) 14:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. "A firewood powered snow melter" ... no wonder it didn't work; a lot of people have one in their homes :-). Daniel Case (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hook contains negative statements about a living person. Daniel Case (talk) 14:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or,
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added Richard Taylor (colonel)--Bedford Pray 01:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first hook is 234 characters and the second is 217. Two suggestions:
ALT 2: ... that from inception to 2005, the Prairie Habitat Joint Venture in Canada received $236.1 million of funding from the United States via the North American Waterfowl Management Plan? (remove some text to bring it under 200 characters)
ALT 3: ... that despite being an agency of Canada, the Prairie Habitat Joint Venture has received nearly $200 million of funding from the United States federal government? (Same general idea, worded differently) Obviously, I am slightly biased ;-), but I think Alt 3 is a little more interesting. Thingg 02:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That seems OK to me, though I'll have to tweak it because it's not a government agency. Of course, the problem is that North American Waterfowl Management Plan contains 40 characters on its own, and nobody would understand NAWMP. Mindmatrix 02:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4:... that the Prairie Habitat Joint Venture in Canada has received nearly $200 million of funding from the United States federal government? (To accurately capture the actual structure of the venture would make the hook too long.) Mindmatrix 02:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me. :) Date, length, and ref verified. Thingg 03:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, and ref verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 11:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Statement is not cited. Indeed, the entire article has no citations or external links. Thingg 02:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych
Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych
This hook sounds like an ad for the soundtrack. --74.13.130.58 (talk) 11:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jørgen Aall
Jørgen Aall
  • ... that Jørgen Aall (pictured), one of the the founding fathers of the Norwegian Constitution in 1814, went out of business as a ship-owner only four years later? -- self-nom by Punkmorten (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Date, length, and ref verified. (I had to use google translator to verify as all refs are in Norwegian) I think it should be noted that very little info about Aall is available in English and this article is likely to be by far the best article on him that is written in English. I also found and added an image. Thingg 03:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified. I just don't see in the article where it says "he is the first West Virginia native to become a professional bodybuilder". Please clarify. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 15:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
now fixed Victuallers (talk) 22:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Karakore was the epicenter of the most destructive earthquake of 20th century Ethiopia, which destroyed one town and left 5,000 people homeless? new article self-nom by llywrch (talk) 20:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 08:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Foster Memorial AME Zion Church
Foster Memorial AME Zion Church
  • Date, length, and ref verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 11:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 08:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it says he won second place in a 2004 vote, before he was put in prison. After he went to prison he wasn't allowed to register as a candidate. So this hook looks problematic to me. Gatoclass (talk) 10:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on June 8

Micronesian kingfisher Guam Rail

  • Date, length, and reference verified. -- RyRy5 (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hauenštejn
Hauenštejn
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 07:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Harry Peckham by Joseph Wight of Derby
Harry Peckham by Joseph Wight of Derby
Neither article has been expanded enough. Daniel Case (talk) 07:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What are you smoking Daniel? Harry Peckham is a new article and the other has been expanded from 400-odd bytes of main text to over 8,000! Gatoclass (talk) 10:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Red Bridge, Bern
Red Bridge, Bern
  • ... that the Red Bridge (pictured), one of the former Aar bridges in Berne, was nicknamed the "Angel of Death" because of frequent fatal accidents? — Created June 7 in userspace, moved to main space on June 8, self-nom by  Sandstein  07:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 17:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that, late in the life of the great Tang Dynasty general Li Guangbi, he disobeyed imperial orders, causing generals under him to disobey his orders as well? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 03:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does "his orders" mean Li Guangbi's orders or the emperor's imperial orders? I couldn't guess which, even after reading the article. Art LaPella (talk) 06:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • OK, I'll try to make that more clearly in the article, and meanwhile, revise the hook to:
    • ... that, late in the life of the great Tang Dynasty general Li Guangbi, he disobeyed imperial orders, causing subordinate generals to disobey Li Guangbi's orders as well? --Nlu (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
OR
I like the 2nd hook best, but it's uncited. Length, date verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let's drop the PEACOCK-ish word "eminent". --74.13.124.49 (talk) 05:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Removing "eminent" and reversing order of clauses as well. Daniel Case (talk) 13:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 13:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Verified, but it could really use a copyedit. Gatoclass (talk) 13:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:Helvella lacunosa 1977.jpg
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and date verified. However, it doesn't look like the fact is referenced in the article. JamieS93 21:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 7

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Length and references verified. Does at least one have something about these three being the only Carnegie ones left? Daniel Case (talk) 03:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there were three others, but they have been lost. These three are the only ones left.Cbl62 (talk) 04:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Several of the sources state that Carnegie sponsored only six libraries in LA, all built from 1913-1916. These are the only three branches remaining that were built before the 1920s, i.e., the era when the six Carnegies were built. As far as a non-pay source, the NRH registry for the LA Public Library branches (which lists the historic remaining branches in order of construction) shows that these three are the only ones surviving from the pre-1920 era. The next oldest after these three dates to 1923 -- 7 years after the Carnegies were built. See http://www.nr.nps.gov/multiples/64000066.pdf So these are the only 3 left.Cbl62 (talk) 04:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If we can get something in at least one of the articles using this, in a footnote, to explain that of the original six only these three are left, we can use this. Daniel Case (talk) 13:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DONE. I added it to all three. These three articles took a lot of time, so if they can be added, that would be great!Cbl62 (talk) 16:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That seems okay. But next time I suggest you come up with an easier hook to confirm! Gatoclass (talk) 16:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the original design for the logo of LOT Polish Airlines (still on the tails of its aircraft, albeit tweaked many times) was done by a pioneer of modern Polish poster, Tadeusz Gronowski in 1929? (self nom) --Mareklug talk 14:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I removed the image. You can't use a non-free image here. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • No inline citations in article. -- RyRy5 (talk) 21:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'll let someone else review the article. I'm not so sure about this one. Thank you, RyRy5 (talk) 19:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • No independent sources, no evidence of notability. Gatoclass (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Warwick, New York
Warwick, New York
I shortened it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure who approved this one, but it's scarcely even a x2 expansion. Gatoclass (talk) 04:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you picked it for the next update, and then you "threw it back" 50 minutes later. A pity you did not include the original commentary by Thingg and Daniel Case when you "threw it back".
Anyway, I am not sure where you get "scarcely even a x2 expansion" from. Here is the relevant diff from the version before the expansion to the version today. I make that 1305 characters (excluding headings, references, categories, etc) to 5969 characters. Or, to put it another way, an additional 4664 characters, amounting to an expansion of 4.57 times. Sure, you can rules-lawyer me on the 5 times expansion requirement, but I think it is unrecognisable from the stubby article it was before. I wonder why I bother. -- One pound (talk) 22:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Throwing this one back as it clearly isn't finished. I don't believe we should be promoting unfinished articles to the front page. Gatoclass (talk) 16:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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