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*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Date, length, hook and refs of reliable sources check out as of the current version (which for the record is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_story&oldid=429025325]). The problems raised by the decliner have been rectified. Until someone points out a ''specific'' example of something that ''currently'' fails to reflect the information in the refs, this is good to go for DYK. [[User:OCNative|OCNative]] ([[User talk:OCNative|talk]]) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
*[[File:Symbol confirmed.svg|16px]] Date, length, hook and refs of reliable sources check out as of the current version (which for the record is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_story&oldid=429025325]). The problems raised by the decliner have been rectified. Until someone points out a ''specific'' example of something that ''currently'' fails to reflect the information in the refs, this is good to go for DYK. [[User:OCNative|OCNative]] ([[User talk:OCNative|talk]]) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Are you sure you want to approve that hook? Maybe one with proper grammar and a comprehensible sentence structure would be better... [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Are you sure you want to approve that hook? Maybe one with proper grammar and a comprehensible sentence structure would be better... [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
::'''ALT 1''': ... that during [[World War II]] a [[Luftwaffe]] pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on an [[United States Army Air Corps]]'s plane, declined to fire and actually '''[[Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler story|safely escorted]]''' it to the [[North Sea]]? [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)


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Articles created/expanded on April 26

Jihadi tourism

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked hook again. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Wikipedia is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Wikipedia's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much.  – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any significant POV problems in here as Ohio suggests, but I agree with Gato that the article feels a bit unfinished and unstable. Jihadi tourism seems to have a variety of different definitions in these sources, and the article could use some work to resolve what its primary subject is. It's an interesting topic, though, and I'll be interested to see what it can become. --Khazar (talk) 16:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestions: The hook remains problematic to me in that it conflates two quite different definitions from the article--"a term sometimes used to describe tourism involving scenes of conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, or to exhibitions displaying artifacts and images of such struggles" and "travel to foreign destinations with the object of scouting for terrorist training"--and treat them as a single phenomenon--I'm not sure that yoking is supported by the sources yet. The first of these definitions also appears to remain unsourced. Perhaps these problems might be avoided by trimming the hook down to just the Hamburg mosque Somali sites and leaving out the "Landmark" entirely? The article also needs to establish that the Tourist Landmark is a "popular" destination for this sort of travel (rather than just an extant one), but this might be fixed by just getting rid of the word "popular" in the hook. Or we could try to find a source that talks about both these definitions as different facets of the same thing. I just want to be sure that we're not building the Frankenstein by conflating two disparate phenomena. But I posted in this AfD debate, too, so I'm glad to step out and let someone approach this with fresh eyes in my place.-- Khazar (talk) 18:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, realized I was responding to the older version. corrected. -- Khazar (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 2

Jean Perrot

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Article at 1,969 characters. However, online reference is linked to a "book cover". Unverifiable. Unless reference is an offline source? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Paleorient Journal website mentions Perrot founding it but I've strenghtened the sourcing with a direct mention here Société préhistorique française, p.3 (1982). Bulletin de la Société préhistorique française. Société préhistorique française. Retrieved 4 May 2011.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) that says about co-founder Bernard Vandermeersch "En 1974, il collabore avec J. Perrot à la création de l'« Association Paléo-rient » dont le but était de lancer la revue Paléorient ... En 1977, Paléorient est devenue une revue du CNRS" on page 3. I'm taking it that was the verification problem, not the famous excavations. Thanks! Paul Bedsontalk 04:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 3

Tying of the iPhone to AT&T

  • ... that when Apple initially released its iPhone in the U.S. on June 29, 2007, it was sold exclusively with AT&T, leading to Tying of the iPhone to AT&T which forced users to purchase AT&T service plans?


Created by Dsayles08. Nominated by Jaobar (talk) 03:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This article was created (as explained on its talk page) for a school project. I'm currently working on merging it into existing articles and it may be deleted in a week or so. The article, and the blurb, seem somewhat POVish as far as being against restrictive policies. If you do use it, I've made some wording changes, primarily to correct U.S.-centricism. HereToHelp (talk to me) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As noted on the talk page for this article, the iPhone page has been tagged as being too lengthy already. That, coupled with the fact that this article addresses a major telecommunication policy issue that has wide-reaching implications suggests that it should stand alone. Jaobar (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 5

Sanjak of Prizren

Created by Antidiskriminator (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Crisco 1492 asked me to weigh in on whether the Swahili rule should be used here. Currently, DYK is displaying 4 sets per day, with 7 hooks per set. That equals 28 hooks per day featured on the main page. Manually counting here (or better yet using the auto-counter here) shows there are currently under 20 nominations per day. This discussion two weeks ago noted the decline in the number of nominations. Looking at my own recent hooks, my early April nominations were taking two weeks to go from nomination to main page; my late April and early May nominations are often taking about 9 days. In light of this I would advise using the Swahili rule, so Crisco 1492 can proceed with a review while waiving the date based on the Swahili rule. OCNative (talk) 12:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everything checks out. I wonder what Sanjak of Prizren is in Swahili. :-) Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:47, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rod Thornton

Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

length and date OK, references check out, but the hook fact is not is not in the article. i.e. "al-Queada training manual" is not mentioned. SpinningSpark 08:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Guardian ref says "Thornton writes that the al-Qaida manual which led to the arrests is now stocked in the university's library" which at least implies that it was not in the library at the time of arrest, and in any event does not entirely verify the hook. I will take it on good faith if you say the offline Thornton ref is more definite on this point, but if the Guardian is accurately reporting Thornton then the hook is wrong. You also need to decide if your spelling is going to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaida SpinningSpark 10:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sanmenxia Dam

The downstream side of a concrete structure that is used to retain water and produce electricity

Created/self-nom --NortyNort (Holla) 13:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Nothing remarkable about the PRC arresting people for such criticism; focus more on the technical aspects. Include information about location in western Henan. Also, don't simply use "China" in a political context when you actually are referring to the PRC. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 14:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree it isn't remarkable. I usually focus on design but thought the controversy was more interesting in this case. I haven't seen an arrest like this related to a dam. Usually it is violent protesters. The amount of trapped sediment could be an interesting alternate. I also try to keep hooks short and feel PRC (now piped) is implied along with trying to not have too many location identifiers. Other thoughts are welcome, thanks for yours. I will work on an ALT.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you're still looking for hook materials, try "the first dam project along the Yellow River in the history of the PRC", "the only dam project in 156 large scale projects in the Five-Year Plans of the People's Republic of China#The First Five-Year Plan, 1953–57" (Ref.) or the banknote thingie. Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 13:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Snarum Station, Jørgen Rytterager

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length are fine, offline foreign language hook accepted in good faith. But with only one source for an average-seeming Norweigan station master, does this meet the WP:GNG? -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article is well written, but I agree that the notability might be a bit thin here. Does he stick out from thousands(?) of other station masters? Also, is the hook eye-catching in any way? Geschichte (talk) 09:11, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do see your points. But Rytterager was not only a station master, he was also a public servant and one of the wealthiest farmers in Buskerud (if not whole Norway) at the time. Also, the source cited in the article is not the only source on this individual, it's just the only source that I've had in my disposition. That journal article also cited many other sources on Rytterager, but I didn't want cite them in the article, as I hadn't seen them myself. I would say, that the fact that the reliable and serious periodical Arkivmagasinet (issued by the National Archival Services of Norway) devoted three pages to an article solely on this station master does make him worthy of an article. Redirecting the article on Rytterager to Snarum Station could be a good compromise, though. As for the hook fact, it was the best that I was able to find. IMHO, It does seem a bit peculiar that a farmer at the decline of his career managed to become a station master at a new railway line. That happening was also the title of the journal article, so I think somebody else would agree. :) --Eisfbnore talk 14:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Eisfborne, it's a well-written article, so I do hope it gets to stay without a redirect. The Arkivmagasinet source you name seems like an excellent start, but my understanding of the notability guidelines is that a second source wholly or partially dedicated to Rytterager will need to go into the article to demonstrate notability. I'm less up on the GNG than many others here, though, so what I'll do is leave my question mark up and let this catch the attention of a more experienced editor than I to make the final call. -- Khazar (talk) 15:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see the peculiarity a bit better now. But when you say "he was also a public servant", what kind of servant? Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base

Created by DeltaQuad (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Bolded the topic for this one and wikilinked. Also supplied the "?" for the hook. However, there are two redlinks at intro of article. Either remove the redlinks or provide the pages for those two please. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry the bold was just from the article itself not on purpose...and there is not a redlink in the nom, why is the article required not to have them? (If it is a rule) -- DQ (t) (e) 11:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bolding of the nominated article is required. What is not correct is AnakngAraw's claim that redlinks in the article itself are undesirable. Redlinks don't belong in the hook, but in the article they're all good. Manxruler (talk) 15:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really. I don't understand the hook (which I have just copy-edited for typos). How can an air base destroy 273 aircraft? Airbases don't usually destroy aircraft. And this airbase wasn't even in existence in 1943-45. Who actually shot down the 273 aircraft, and what does it have to do with the base? Manxruler (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes. I saw that you had been working on this article for quite some time in your user space, which is of course perfectly well. The problem here is that the hook you are promoting, is not at all about this air base, but about the Normandie-Niemen squadron, which already has its own article. There's no way this hook can be used. Manxruler (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. There's still some time, if you'd like to come up with a different hook. Manxruler (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article says "The actual construction of the Colmar - Meyenheim Air Base began in 1951," and adds this base was active in WWII, used by the Free French. Wikimapia for the same location says "French Air Force Base 132 (Base aérienne 132), home to fighter squadron 1/30 "Alsace" and fighter squadron 2/30 "Normandie Niemen", created in 1943 for Free French pilots flying against the Germans in Russia." I am confused by the difference in construction date, start of war and disagreement with other source. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 6

Depot Town

A green building with white trim and an angled roof.

5x expanded by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 19:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Still not 5x although an expansion began on May 10. I prefer the first hook, and it is verified. Alt1 verified but less interesting. I do not see the Alt2 hook in the end of paragraph ref. I.E., where does it say this was the last Hudson dealership. I would suggest adding a map. See Hyde Park, Chicago. I sourced a map from OpenStreetMap and then went into Microsoft Paint and added lines to create a border. I think saving their maps as .jpgs results in higher resolution than .pngs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • 5x expansion verified. There are just 3 paragraphs of information which are missing citations: end of first paragraph under "Businesses"; end of first paragraph and all of second paragraph under "Events". Then it's ready to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not seeing a 5x expansion. Depot Town was 3155 characters of readable prose. Currently, 13705 characters. 13705/3155=4.34x. Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum 2799/634=4.41x.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:18, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • DYKcheck shows 2568 characters in this pre-expansion version, and like you, I get 13705 on the current version. 13705/2568=5.33x. DYKcheck on the current version confirms this ("Assuming article is at 5x now, expansion began 72 edits ago on May 6, 2011"). I acknowledged above that Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum is at 4.4x, and I requested an WP:IAR pass on that one. I'm not finding any more sources that say anything new, and while I could probably squeeze out 371 characters of padding to get it to 5x, I don't think it would really be beneficial to the article; I know that we've previously given articles that were a little short of 5x a pass. cmadler (talk) 04:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Open top buses in Weston-super-Mare

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 16:15, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, wait, hold it. Were those actual criminals, or were they actors playing the part of criminals? DS (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Until we get that issue settled, this is unacceptable. DS (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reading the article, they were clearly the latter. OCNative (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I don't see a problem. The idea of a hook is to entice the reader to read the article. That done, it's clear what the hook really means. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you want a deceptive hook, wait for April 1. I strongly oppose this wording. DS (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with DS. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Northern Cyprus

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody marked the source for the hook as unreliable besides I could not find a confirmation in the source that supports the hook.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Alt 2 is verified, but I am still do not feel comfortable to promote the article with unreliable source for another information. Maybe somebody more experienced than I am could take a look.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Laos

Two young women from Laos.

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, hook, and source all check out. All that needs to be done now is a review of another article. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:17, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, you have a point. I didn't catch it as a blog earlier. However, the two sections that have only one sentence don't seem to conflict with DYK requirements; the overall article size still checks out, as do the newness and hook items. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replaced the blog ref with the Lonely Planet book from which it was based on or copied from. Found it from googlebooks. Ref is now valid source for whole article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • - The picture does not picture "women of Laos," it pictures one woman. I have no problem with this moving forward without the image, however, I express reservations of promoting it with an incorrectly labeled picture. BelloWello (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced the image with two "women from Laos" from Commons. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rollover captions changed as well. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks for prompt attention. Probably unnecessary since the chance of it being featured as the image is slim, but something that caught my attention anyway. BelloWello (talk) 22:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

<- I'm not convinced it's a good hook. Obviously there's a difference between the cultural belief system/traditions of Theravada Buddhism and being actively taught something by someone. I'm curious where these women of Laos are being actively taught that that they can only attain nirvana after they have been reborn as men. It seems to me a bit like saying that women of the U.S. are taught that they can only get to heaven if they go to church etc. I'm not sure that Lonely Planet is an appropriate source for sweeping statements like this. Sean.hoyland - talk 09:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Sean that this is a fairly sweeping claim to rely on LP for. (Honestly, I barely trust LP to get me to local bars). Would it be possible to source this to a more academic work? This reservation aside, thanks for creating all these women of articles, AnakngAraw. It's a good area to look at and I look forward to seeing how they develop. -- Khazar (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 7

Krotite

  • ... that the newly discovered mineral krotite was one of the earliest minerals formed in the solar system?

Created by Tmangray (talk). Nominated by Bender235 (talk) at 07:43, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Mweshihange

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bart Chilton

CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton

Created by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 22:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. But I think you're mixing up two facts in the hook that have nothing to do with each other. Chilton sounds like a polished professional in his field, and this hook makes him look silly. How about:
  • ALT1: ... that CFTC commissioner Bart Chilton has been called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness" for his efforts to expose fraud in the silver futures market? Yoninah (talk) 22:12, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cowboy boots (and hats) are pretty normal in certain parts of the U.S., not silly at all. However, one expects a CFTC commissioner in Washington, D.C. to look more like the chairman Gary Gensler and not sport long hair and cowboy boots. I was figuring on catching people's attention with the contrast of CFTC >> boots & hair >> Eliot Ness. I worry that people are numb from all the fraud these days, and their eyes just glaze over, especially when you follow that with "futures markets". I think "futures market" has to be left out, though. Or maybe write it as [[futures market|zzzzzzzzz]] After struggling with about five versions of this, I've come up with this. I think the word "fraud" is okay if you precede it with the word "prosecute". How about this?
  • ALT2:... that commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured), who sports long hair and cowboy boots, has been called "the modern-day equivalent of Eliot Ness" for wanting the CFTC to prosecute fraud? Marrante (talk) 23:31, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think I like ALT2 better. That business of "prosecuting fraud" is appealing in these days where it is mostly just exposed (if that) – the recent conviction of Raj Rajaratnam notwithstanding. Here's the photo, though. I didn't put it in before because I thought it wasn't interesting enough, but it surely does relate to the hook, if the hair is mentioned. I think I'll leave the decision of the hook up to you, but if you don't take ALT2, I suggest this adjustment of your ALT3. I think with the photo in there, we can risk using the full name of the agency, which then better provides the surprising juxtaposition of his job and personal style.
  • ALT4: ... that Commodity Futures Trading Commissioner Bart Chilton (pictured) goes to his office in Washington, D.C. wearing shoulder-length blond hair and cowboy boots? Marrante (talk) 17:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you're happier with ALT2, then let's go with it. It will hook readers who are into cowboy boots, and also readers who are Eliot Ness fans. Hook ref verified. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Distributed backbone

Created by Bencst13 (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Good work so far, but this article is too short, as it is at 1,089 characters. There's still time for you to expand it, though. Please get the article's prose sections up to 1,500 characters (headers and citations do not count toward the characters). Keep at it, and this will qualify when you add more info! OCNative (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Siamak Pourzand

  • ... that a daughter of Iranian dissident Siamak Pourzand described his suicide as "a way for him to finally find freedom"?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Khazar and Roozbeh. Self nom at 16:29, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the journalism of Siamak Pourzand ranged from film criticism for Cahiers du cinéma to coverage of the "Chain Murders" of Iranian dissidents?
Reviewed: Abbud al-Zumar, David Tyler (UK), Larry Geraty
Note: This article had to be blanked due to copyright violation (almost the entire article was a cut-and-paste job from PEN America's website). The article thus went from ~3600 chars of invalid text to ~6000 chars of valid, sourced text. I realize this isn't quite x2, but since the previous text had to be deleted as copyright vio, my understanding is that its characters don't "count"; the article actually went from close to 0 chars to 6000 chars. So I think it's eligible under DYK, but if I'm wrong, please feel free to remove. -- Khazar (talk) 18:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I accept this. The article is fine. The hook is sourced, but note that the reference had the wrong URL (it went to an Amnesty article rather than the Washington Times article). Good to go. Drmies (talk) 03:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the fix. A sloppy cut-and-paste job of the template on my part. -- Khazar (talk) 04:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry about it. That's why this is a collaborative effort. You should see my articles before the proofreaders go over it. Drmies (talk) 12:27, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note that this is not a BLP so the 2x expansion rule does not apply. I haven't looked into the situation, but if it went from almost 0 to 6000, it would certainly be acceptable as a 5x expansion. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, and sorry for the confusion. He died a week ago, so it was marked BLP when we started work. But yes, we did have to start from 0, and added ~6000 chars. I'm not sure if that makes it new or a x5 expansion, but either way we seem to be good. --Khazar (talk) 22:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

David Tyler (UK)

Created by ISD (talk). Self nom at 14:16, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook all check out. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that this is the better hook. --Khazar (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 8

William Harbison

  • ... that RAF Air Vice-Marshal William "Paddy" Harbison's 1952 report on Korean War air combat tactics was used as a strategy guide for this 1999 computer game?

Created by Skeet Shooter (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Pope

Created by Ttzavaras (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 14:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stanislao Gastaldon

Chamber of the House of Commons.

5x expanded by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 09:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT 1 ... that "Musica proibita" by Italian composer Stanislao Gastaldon (pictured) was the first of six songs for which he also wrote the lyrics under the pseudonym "Flick-Flock"?
Prefer this one. More interesting, I think and I'd have to individually reference all the various singers. Voceditenore (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I like the alt hook better too, and I crossed out mine. I reviewed Phantom of the Mall: Eric's Revenge ([4]).4meter4 (talk) 09:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note for the reviewer, the ALT 1 hook and its citation can be found in the 4th sentence of the paragraph immediately following the lyrics excerpt in the section "Musica probita". – Voceditenore (talk) 10:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

German destroyer Z13 Erich Koellner

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Ashraf massacre

Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 23:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 14:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana Police Service

  • ... that the Ghana Police Service set up the Marine Police Unit to handle cases of piracy and associated crimes from the country's oil and gas industry?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed High performance technology [[6]]
  • Article has only half the required size of 1500 characters, and the lead phrase as it currently is should be removed because it does not relate well to the article title. The first section is a very close paraphrase of this source, possibly amounting to a copyright problem. You can convert the numbered lists to normal text, thereby increasing the "prose count" relevant to DYK, but please reword it to avoid plagiarism / copyright issues. --Pgallert (talk) 08:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm, not quite. The article is now long enough, and the date checks out as well. But the hook in my opinion misrepresents what the source says (and so does the article): the piracy and associated crimes from the country's oil and gas industry is clearly a minor responsibility compared to the enforcement of the various Fishery Acts. Thus to say that the force was "set up [...] to handle cases of piracy..." is not supported by the source. By the way, to connect the establishment of the Marine Unit to Ghana's oil finds as done in the article is a text book example of a synthesis; the one source does not mention the Police, the other one is mum on the oil reserves. --Pgallert (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henri Lavachery

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length good to go, hook confirmed with sources. Doing a little copyediting now, but overall, very nice article. Surprising that he's never been included before this point. -- Khazar (talk) 15:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Refugee Board (Ghana)

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 22:32, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed High performance technology [[7]]
"Under review" by User:AshLin.
  • Newly created = okay.
  • hook contains title= Yes.
  • hook fact inline cited= Yes.
  • all paras cited= Yes.
  • within policy= Yes.
  • no copyright or paraphrasing problems=Yes.
  • Min 1500 prose length with DYKCheck=Shows 1438 with DYK, 1441, manual counting. Imho, the article is a mite sparse. Some expansion of the good work done/ details could be done not only to satisfy DYK norms but also to satisfy the curiousity of visitors. While no limit can be specified for this, author/nominator is requested to please expand the parent article to meet this aspect in letter and spirit. AshLin (talk) 05:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I count 1,605 characters, which beats the minimum 1,500 requirement. However, DYK rules allow rejection of 1,500-character articles as too short. Until the concerns raised by AshLin are met, this still is too short despite meeting the mechanical requirement of 1,500 characters. Perhaps, the "Functions of the board" section could be expanded. OCNative (talk) 05:58, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

High performance technology

Created by Ledraisel (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 21:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can we look at this again? The title is High performance technology so this should include advanced balsa modelling, quick cooking macaroni etc. And are we saying this is the first wikipedia article on "high performance computers"? I'm sure Ive seen somethuing on that subject here before. Can a 3rd party do a review please. Victuallers (talk) 15:08, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amina Bokhary controversy

  • Note: Article was previously speedied and userified. It was then rewritten by Ohconfucius and was moved back to article space on 8 May.
  • Reviewed: Steam devil ([8])

Created by Ohconfucius (talk). Nominated by Deryck Chan (talk) at 21:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, and sources all look good. My only question is that I had trouble referencing the specific claim of an uproar to a specific source. While clearly true, it's still a bit of a judgment call. One headline describes a "police uproar" but not a more general one. Another good solid fact is the survey on confidence in the judiciary. I wonder if you might cite a more concrete fact here, such as the number of people at a march, or a more direct quote from a news source. I apologize if that's a really pedantic concern to bring to such an already well-researched and well-constructed article; it's just that with a controversial subject like I want to make sure we get the hook right. -- Khazar (talk) 15:51, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Deryck for the nomination. I have a small issue with the hook viz: I don't so much think the 'Amina Bokhary controversy' provoked an uproar, because it was the uproar itself; the legal judgement was the source of the uproar. Any ideas how to reword? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 10:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1:... that the Amina Bokhary controversy was an uproar caused by the alleged preferential treatment of a member of a well-connected family by the judicial system in Hong Kong? Ohconfucius ¡digame! 15:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A nominated article must be new. For purposes of DYK, a "new" article is no more than five days old, and may not consist of text spun off from a pre-existing article. This article is not new. It was created in January 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&limit=500&action=history. Then it got deleted last month http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amina_Bokhary_controversy&action=historysubmit&diff=426863147&oldid=426117315. It does not qualify as expansion since then. 61.18.170.162 (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to respond by saying that DYK criteron D8 states "Five days old" means five days old in article space. Having been deleted and re-created (whatever means it was deleted from article space) means it's a new article. Of course, per rule D13, I'll leave the admins in charge of DYK to decide whether this article qualifies for DYK. --Deryck C. 21:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

88 Generation Students Group, Mie Mie

Note: This hook includes two new articles.
Reviewed: American Women's Voluntary Services, Uncle Yo

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice articles, date, length ok. However, the photo is unfortunately not public domain and can thus not be included in DYK. Also, I would suggest a more interesting hook: such as ALT1: ... that in 2008, Burmese 88 Generation democracy activist Mie Mie was sentenced to 65 years imprisonment for "illegally using electronic media" and "forming an illegal organization"? --Soman (talk) 16:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad on the photo, but makes sense. ALT1 looks good to me. Thanks for reviewing, and for the ALT hook. -- Khazar (talk) 16:44, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Steam devil

  • ... that steam devils can be more important than convection in vertically transporting moisture during cold air outbreaks?

5x expanded by Spinningspark (talk). Self nom at 18:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Information from the cited paper agrees with the hook. The paper did not make an explicit direct comparison between convection and steam devils, possibly because convection is a phenomenon involved in steam devils; however I believe the paraphrasing in the article would not amount to original research. --Deryck C. 21:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The lidar aircraft data showed evidence of steam devils penetrating deep into the boundary layer, suggesting that these steam devils transport some of the moisture to greater depths than heat." SpinningSpark 20:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes that's what I figured, but those without any specialist training in thermodynamics may not appreciate why that was a comparison between steam devils and convection. (Boundary layer is a difficult concept.) Hence I gave the tick and wrote to say there was some significant paraphrasing but assured that all required information can be found in the paper. It's all good to go. Thanks for teaching me this while I'm revising for my thermodynamics exam. --Deryck C. 17:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Working Girls' Vacation Society Historic District

Created by Doncram (talk). Self nom at 22:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be very happy if anyone would care to write a more fun hook. This blog picked up on a few hook-like factoids; i didn't want to straight copy theirs tho. --doncram 20:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The name of the article by itself creates a pretty effective hook! :-) --Orlady (talk) 14:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Before this can be promoted, the hook needs formatting; insert relevant wikilinks, bold for the target article. You may find it easier to use this template for future nominations. Schwede66 22:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for commenting. Okay, I bolded the target article now. I am not keen on wikilinking "Connecticut" and other stuff not germane to the article; i just prefer not wikilinking in this hook. Maybe for a different/better hook. --doncram 03:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle Yo

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note that the article was created in the sandbox and only now moved to the mainspace, so the (mainspace) creation date is indeed May 8. It is my understanding that this fulfills "creation" criteria.
  • Reviewed #FCC v. AT&T Inc.
Date ok, squeaks in on length, but I agree with the references tag on the article that this does not yet appear to meet notability. Suggest adding significant third-party sources to demonstrate notability if possible. --Khazar (talk) 21:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the templates: majority of the refs are secondary sources that I believe demonstrate notability. A disagreement can be discussed on talk or at AfD, but till an AfD puts this nom on hold I'd like this not to hold up a DYK nom. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My initial impression would be that only the two blog posts here would count as truly "secondary" sources, as the others appear to be press releases or announcements for where Uncle Yo will be appearing. I'm sorry to say I'm not convinced this meets the notability threshold for reliable secondary sources, and my understanding of the DYK guidelines is that an article that hasn't met the source policies isn't ready to be approved. The best I can say is that if another editor wants to give this approval, I won't block her/him. Or if you can find some more clean-cut examples of reliable secondary sources--or explain how these sources are--I'm game for reconsidering. Sorry I can't be more help. -- Khazar (talk) 00:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think a blog (interview) is used only for one of the nineteen footnotes. Almost all content is referenced with what I think are proper secondary sources - Anime News Network news portal or convention websites. I am open for further discussion of the reliability of the sources at WP:RSN, as mentioned on talk, but I'd hate for this article to be denied DYKing because we are discussing the sources (hence, I'd also welcome a quick AFD "trial by fire" discussion, which IIRC puts DYKs on hold). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On hold for AfD discussion. This article appears to meet all other DYK criteria, and if it passes AfD, Piotrus is welcome to change my vote to "approve" without checking with me first; notability is my only concern here. -- Khazar (talk) 01:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Head Standard

One of a pair of Head Standard skis, with Cubco bindings

  • ... that the success of the Head Standard, the first modern downhill ski design, propelled Head to be the largest ski company in the world by the 1960s?

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 14:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the image would be better if it was rotated, long-way up. But I don't know how to do this.
No, this image will never work at 100px, whichever orientation you choose. Schwede66 22:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Yearwood

  • ... that Antiguan politician Robin Yearwood has held the same seat in the Antiguan Parliament continuously since 1976?

Ironholds (talk) 09:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, but why are there no url links?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:37, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zayar Thaw, Generation Wave

Reviewed: Narcotics Control Board (Ghana), Manihot walkerae, and Great Anatolia Party

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 01:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great Anatolia Party

Created by Logom (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While an apparently notable subject, and sufficient in length and date, both the hook and article will need substantial grammatical cleanup to be ready for the front page. I'm sorry I can't help out more with this, Logom. I started in on the article but at times had difficulty determining the intention of the sentences. Since the given sources are in Turkish, I couldn't go to those either. Perhaps another bilingual editor could help this one? -- Khazar (talk) 04:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on May 9

Mark Edward

Mark Edward seated at a seance table

Created by Sgerbic (talk). Nominated by Krelnik (talk) at 23:43, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date good... but we generally don't accept YouTube links as reliable sources due to possible copyright problems. Also, seems to be quite a few lists that could be turned into prose. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:13, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ben Boyd National Park, Nadgee Nature Reserve

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NB: reviewed Piazza della Rotonda Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anna (Anisia)

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 10:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date are fine, AGF for offline, foreign language refs on her exile but there needs to be an inline citation after the fact that her exile was after her husband's began his reign - Basement12 (T.C) 11:17, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi and thanks for the review! I've inserted a footnote after the fact. Toдor Boжinov 11:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Still not quite right - I think the citation is needed after "She was exiled to a monastery in the beginning of Ivan Asen's reign, after he arranged his marriage to Anna Maria of Hungary." - Basement12 (T.C) 12:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'm a bit reluctant to add references to the intro because I believe all of it its facts are already in the body. That she was exiled after Ivan Asen took the throne is clear from the article text, but I've added the footnote to the intro anyway :) Toдor Boжinov 12:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The problem I've got is that both him taking the throne and her exile are dated as 1218, the intro is the only place that states definitively which happened first - Basement12 (T.C) 13:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned that specifically in the body (though I think it was quite clear from the narrative) and I added a footnote to the intro (I thought I had done that, but I obviously hadn't :)) Toдor Boжinov 15:29, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

W. Darrell Overdyke

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed A Passion for Churches

OZ Group

Created by Danno uk (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ludwig von Westphalen

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ready to go, everything checks out (long enough, new enough, hook ref, within policy). -- Health Researcher (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dhammapada (Easwaran translation)

The Buddha

  • ... that Easwaran's Dhammapada states that the joy in the Buddha's message is "the joy of knowing that he has found a way for everyone, not just great sages, to put an end to sorrow"?

Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 20:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed (by nom): #Ludwig_von_Westphalen ([9])
Note that article is new because it was moved into Mainspace (from userspace) on May 9.
→ → → Please review soon if possible for May 17 special occasion deadline. Hopefully easy to review since book itself is viewable in Google bookview, and the hook's direct quote has a footnote that links directly to quote in Google bookview. Health Researcher (talk) 00:48, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantis (docudrama)

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fusakichi Omori

Fusakichi Omori, pioneering Japanese seismologist

Created by Ellin Beltz (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • No problem at all. Better to have left the original and indicated acceptance of the alternative proposal as that makes it slightly easier for others to follow the thread, but it's not worth amending again. As far as I can see it is now:

Manhyia Palace

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Al-Sakhir Palace [[10]]
  • Timeliness of submission, length of article, and length of hook check out. Online cite OK. Ready for the queue! (I tweaked your hook a bit to show where this palace is, and who the Asantehene is). - Tim1965 (talk) 02:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yan Yan Chan

Reviewed: Henri Lavachery.

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 15:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article is still classified as a stub. DYK articles need to be minimally classified as Start. Also, the article's "DEFAULTSORT" name is "Yan Yan Chan". I am unfamiliar with Burmese naming conventions, so I'm not sure if this is correct or not. Shouldn't it be "Chan, Yan Yan"? Jrcla2 (talk) 15:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The naming convention is correct... there's a MOS chapter that deals with Burmese names but I'll be danged if I can find the link. As a 15-sentence article with 2000+ chars, 11 references, and several major incidents of the subject's life, it appears to me that this article has exceeded the stub definition, so I'm upgrading it to "start". If I'm doing this erroneously, though, I'm happy to be corrected--I'm not as familiar with those sorting guidelines as I should be. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What I meant by Stub Class is that, if an article is to be a DYK and on the main page, it cannot be classified as a stub. The article in question is a Start Class, and yes should have been changed to such, but it was not my place to do it since it needed to be brought to your attention. I'm not concerned with the naming convention, I figured it was probably correct as is but thought I should at least ask. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No problem--I appreciate your noticing. Cheers Khazar (talk) 16:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fine Manners

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kepler-5b

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Oskar Daubmann, right below. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oskar Daubmann

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Whoa, that is a fascinating story. Lead, length, newness check out; a review has been completed; three different portions of the article combine to form the hook, and all three are well-cited. The Museum of Hoaxes website seems to puzzle me a bit as to reliability (probably because I've never heard of it), but it seems to be cited itself by newspapers, so I'll accept it in good faith. I accept the foreign-language ref in good faith as well. --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, if I may make a suggestion, the hook could clarify who Oskar Daubmann is. For example, "that a conman impersonating the soldier Oskar Daubmann..." --Starstriker7(Talk) 03:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am fine with the alt hook suggestion. The website could be dubious, but enough of the story can be verified in other sources that I think it is true. Also, the author of the website in question has published a book with the same story. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 20:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

West Bengal elections

or obviously as per the results indicate, though its highly leaning towards the cpim losing..

Created/expanded by Lihaas (talk), Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 02:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article was previously nominated upon creation but i was told by whoever is the guy who runs DYK (forget the name) to renom at election results time. Elections results come in on the 13 May morning India time, within 12 ohours of which it should be updated (certainly by 24 hours) with results and MP details. Also the current tag/s on the page will be sorted by then.
I reviewed Craig Whyte.Lihaas (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:CRYSTALBALL. You can't put out hooks about possible future events, there is no way you can guarantee the accuracy of this. In short, there is no point in formulating a DYK proposal about results that hasn't occured yet. --Soman (talk) 03:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thats why there is an alternative.
I was going to suggest "carried over 6 phases and a month," but we did the same blurb for bihar last year so i opted for some variety.
also, i think both will only be posted AFTER updates, so we have to wait for results anywaysLihaas (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
crystall ball, eh? ;)Lihaas (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you posted the hook on May 9, four days before the counting of the votes started to be counted. There was no way that hook could have been sourced at that point, as it involved speculation about future events. As per the wording of the hook, there is also the experience of UF gov'ts in West Bengal a few decades ago. --Soman (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is no longer eligible for DYK, as West Bengal state assembly election, 2011 is currently the featured article in the lead hook on In the news ("In a state assembly election held in West Bengal, India, the world's longest-serving democratically elected communist government loses power."). Per the DYK rules: "Articles that have been featured on the main page's In the News section are not eligible. If an article is linked to at ITN but not the featured ITN article, it is still eligible for DYK." Sorry about the DYK; congratulations on the ITN. OCNative (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 10

Bill Thieben

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 15:24, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

VX-6

A U.S. Navy Douglas R4D-8 Skytrain in flight

Created by DiverDave (talk). Self nom at 03:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Poison affair of Palestinian schoolgirls

Created by ברוקולי (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I agree that this article has substantial POV problems. The story is written almost entirely from the POV of an Israeli think tank, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. There is unfortunately an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the submission of POV articles from a certain political faction at this project, and I think we are going to have to start taking some steps to address this problem. Gatoclass (talk) 02:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the actual problem is "an ongoing and indeed increasing problem with the spurious rejection of legitimate articles from a certain political faction at this project." Plot Spoiler (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't say it's sourced "almost entirely" to the JCPA, but the "Media reports" section and the absence of scholarly commentary are enough to disqualify the article. I did a cursory GBooks search for the purpose of establishing notability, and there appears to be more than enough material to cover the incident in a neutral fashion. There are psychology books discussing the incident in the context of other "hysterias"; there's that Psychiatric Quarterly source that is linked but not cited. But instead, we choose to make it about how the media hates Israel, oh no, and isn't it funny how this is sourced to self-published "reactions" from conservative think tanks like the Hudson Institute and the JCPA. Fix it up, please. It's okay, not every anti-Arab article has to be featured on the front page. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Arafat falsely accuses the Israelis of poisoning little Palestinian schoolgirls and now somehow this is an "anti-Arab" article? Enough of WP:IDONTLIKEIT for one day. Plot Spoiler (talk) 13:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I propose an alternative. "Did you know that after Palestinian schoolgirls began fainting in 1983 in a case of mass hysteria, Israeli army officials falsely accused Palestinian leaders or poisoning their own people to spark an uprising?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 18:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a lot of work improving the prose and content of this article. An accurate summary (and an interesting one!) would be: "Did you know that in 1983 943 people -- most of them young Palestinian girls -- from the West Bank were hospitalized in a fainting epidemic brought on by mass hysteria?"99.120.1.227 (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lacandon Jungle

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 15:55, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I have it now.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wellington R. Burt

  • I'll leave it to someone else to write the hook. Wellington_R._Burt#Will is particularly interesting in that it took 92 years for his final will to play out.

Created by Green Cardamom (talk). Nominated by Hammersoft (talk) at 15:51, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the nom, Hammersoft.
hook:
... that industrialist Wellington R. Burt, once among the richest Americans, wanted his fortune to be given in 2010 (92 years after his death) to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime?
(191 char)
... that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime; his will's conditions were met in 2010—92 years after his death?
194 char
Green Cardamom (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Burt's will stipulated the majority of the estate to be held in a trust until "21 years after [the death of] my last surviving grandchild [who was alive] at the time of my death", which just happened to be 2010 (92 years after his death). Reword of the hook needed.
    Article size and date verified. --Redtigerxyz Talk 10:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I saw this story in the news. Date, length, and refs for the article check out, but I think the hook doesn't quite state what you meant to say, as it sounds like you're saying he specifically designated 2010 or specifically designated 92 years after his death, so how about:
    ALT1:... that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime, with the fortune distributed in 2010, 92 years after his death?
    or
    ALT2:... that industrialist Wellington Burt, once among the richest Americans, left his fortune to descendants yet unborn in his lifetime; his will's conditions were met in 2010—92 years after his death?
    OCNative (talk) 10:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Palaces of Abomey

Royal Palaces of Abomey
  • ... that according to folklore, descendents of the royal family of Abomey who built the Royal Palaces of Abomey (pictured) in Benin are the progeny of Princess Aligbonon of Tado and a panther?

Created by Nvvchar (talk), Tibetan Prayer (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Old All Saints Church, Nuneham Courtenay

A Neoclassical church with a portico and a dome

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 08:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Nosson Meir Wachtfogel

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zaw Htet Ko Ko

Reviewed: Amina Bokhary controversy

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 17:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Whyte

  • ... that Scottish businessman Craig Whyte, who recently bought the controlling interest in Rangers Football Club, was Scotland's youngest self-made millionaire in 1997 at the age of 26?

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Monkeymanman (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size is good; little less than a 2x expansion ( on 6 may it was 3500 and today its 5500), although it has been well-cited so i think a little lewway might be okay; hook is okay, thouigh id suggest the second one as the first ahas the vague "recently" (although the specific date could be mentioned). Otherwise the article should be good to go pending a city for the sentence "In April 2011, a £28 million deal was thought possible, but depended on agreements on how to service the club's debt (with Lloyds Banking Group), and a £58 million tax bill with HMRC."Lihaas (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • i have added a ref for the sentence, and also included the most recent statement on the tax issue. We could go with the second hook if you prefer but i just thought that the fact that he was Scotlands youngest self made millionaire would be less well known than the widely publicised takeover. Monkeymanman (talk) 22:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
seems good to go now. Although as this is my firs t review im not sure if the 2x requirement (which is slightly less) can be passed. Can someone else confirm this? Otherwise the article meets everythingLihaas (talk) 18:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
okay expanded it by about another 1000. Should be cool now.Monkeymanman (talk) 18:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lihaas (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrtophora exanthematica

A large spider with a distinctively bifurcated abdomen lies on top of an oval sac made of spider silk.

  • Reviewed: Great Falls High School ([14])
  • Comment: Hook is a bit awkward but can't think of a better way to word it. Will welcome alt suggestions.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 08:05, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Titanomyrma

Fossil of giant ant Titanomyrma.
  • ... that the discovery of the fossil giant ant Titanomyrma (pictured) in Wyoming indicates that warmth-loving fauna spread through the north between Europe and America during hot spells in the Eocene?

5x expanded by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:Expansion length, date, and all details of both hooks check out. I do vote for the simpler first hook, but either works fine. Nice expansion on an interesting topic. -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here We Go Again: Celebrating the Genius of Ray Charles

Created by GDuwen (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Music Beta by Google

Created by Logan (talk). Nominated by ThatPeskyCommoner (talk) at 04:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I was being a bit deliberate with the ambiguity there, in the hope of tempting more readers in through sheer blazing curiosity, but if you'd really rather change it, please go ahead. :o) Pesky (talkstalk!) 06:21, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The term "androids" implies robots not phones, and since this isn't being nominated for April Fool's Day, that level of deceptive ambiguity isn't exactly appropriate the other 364 days of the year, IMHO. Unfortunately, the news will be very stale by the next AFD for 2012, so I'd change the hook and run it now instead of leaving it and holding it for AFD 2012. Imzadi 1979  11:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ha, I hope that this DYK doesn't get postponed until April Fools' Day 2012. My view - I think that Android devices would be a bit less ambiguous, as Imzadi1979 said. But, then again, I do think that "Androids" is pretty catchy ;) Logan Talk Contributions 01:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seems OK to me, with the capital 'A' - ie, I don't find it too ambiguous, but reasonably 'tempting'. But if Imzadi1979 or others object, perhaps you could make an alternative suggestion? Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pain fitzJohn

  • ... that the Anglo-Norman administrator Pain fitzJohn (died 1137) was once called a "second-class baron and a first-class civil servant"?

5x expanded by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 00:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 11

List of accolades received by Winter's Bone

Created by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 04:35, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything seems to check out, but I recommend rephrasing the hook, because "Winter's Bone awards" sounds like the name of an award (like the Academy Awards) rather than awards received by a particular film. I can't quite formulate it though, maybe someone else can help. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed it to "the Winter's Bone accolades". Is that better? Crystal Clear x3 02:55, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, same problem. How about:

ALT1: ... that 20-year-old Jennifer Lawrence's Best Actress Academy Award nomination, which made her the second youngest nominee ever in that category, was one of a number of accolades received by Winter's Bone? Roscelese (talkcontribs) 03:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Crystal Clear x3 10:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Cherry

Created by Ijil RHG (talk). Nominated by Patrickneil (talk) at 19:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Alexi Salamone

Created by Basement12 (talk), Unablemanager (talk). Self nom at 14:53, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gandhi Sagar Dam

Gandhi Sagar Dam at Mandsaur

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bride-buying

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hm.. AnakngAraw, again, it is great that you started this topic, but you just scooped a top of it. The hook translates into "... that women are being mishandled in India and China?" - a slap to countries which are picked up only because the article is limited to them. I believe we need something more neutral. Materialscientist (talk) 04:38, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Carex riparia

Two culms of a tall sedge stand up from waterlogged ground.

Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 20:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana Immigration Service

  • ... that prior to Ghana's independence, the Ghana Immigration Service was known as the Immigration and Passport Unit and was a unit under the Colonial Police Force of the Gold Coast?

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 17:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Disaster Management Organization

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics [[19]]

Ghana Prisons Service

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 14:02, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 PBA Commissioner's Cup Finals

  • Comment: I dunno if this qualifies as an expansion or as a new article -- the only prose was the two-sentence lead before I expanded it.

5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 12:36, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I see. I'll let someone else make the call, as its a bit fuzzy to me. May be all well and good. One thing I would suggest is some footnotes for the first three paras of the article, which lack refs. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Triathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics

5x expanded by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:19, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

SS Santa Kyriaki

Created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 08:29, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


M-134 (Michigan highway)

A ship crossing a narrow channel

5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Self nom at 21:25, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Refs to the two parts of hook are accepted in good faith. Length checks out; as does age. Looks like you've reviewed an article already, and I don't see anything to go against Wikipedia's major policies. Good to go. --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Khun Htun Oo

Reviewed:Titanomyrma

newly sourced 2x BLP expansion by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 14:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch on the #--miscopied. Fixed now. Cheers Khazar (talk) 07:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Bautzen (1945)

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article has not been created or expanded 5x within the past 10 days (1112 days). Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
May 7 version - 2327 characters (from lead to references)
current version - 10276 characters
Seems close enough for me. What am I missing? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:13, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Using the DYK check tool today it is: Prose size (text only): 9690 characters (1553 words) "readable prose size" and in December before the expansion started it was: Prose size (text only): 2107 characters (344 words) "readable prose size" Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've done more expansion. Has the sufficient size been reached now? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The size is now OK but the hook is not what it says in the article According to Polish historian Zbigniew Wawer, this was the most bloody battle that the Polish Army had been involved in since the battle of Bzura in 1939.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So? The hook can simplify content of the article. There is a 200 character limit, you know. I don't understand your point. We can make it more clear by adding "in World War II" if you'd like. Or, in fact, we can use most of that sentence - see alt below: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alt 2 OK Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Anderson (footballer)

Created by Argyle 4 Life (talk). Self nom at 02:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Linwood Pendleton

Created by Mrlwiki (talk). Nominated by Qwyrxian (talk) at 05:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 12

Richard Laurence Marquette

Created by Beeblebrox (talk). Self nom at 19:14, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Griselda Siciliani

Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self nom at 22:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC) Reviewed: 2030 (novel)[reply]

  • Length and date look fine, but the ref used only verifies one of the awards, there should probably be a ref verifying the other if it is to be mentioned in the hook. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Byczyna / War of the Polish Succession (1587–1588)

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Rana Pratap Sagar Dam

Favartia guamensis

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 08:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


María Rosa Lida de Malkiel

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gidleigh Park

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 00:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Sutton

  • Reviewed: Banksia candolleana (diff)
  • Comment: I turned an existing redirect (to a different person) into an article.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler story

Created by Mbz1 (talk) and Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Way too much of the article is sourced to the Weekly World News, and the article includes claims that the other source, Snopes (according to RSN, questionably reliable in itself) states are false. Without any reliable sources, this cannot be published on the main page. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • being "reliable" in not one of DYK criteria, If you have a problem with the reliability of the sources please nominate it on deletion. Besides practically all information included in the article is supported by both sources, and now I added the third one byThe Miami Herald.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Chimino, I hope you'd agree that, if two unreliable sources repeat absolutely the same story as a reliable one, this story ought to be true? Besides is Snopes is so unreliable as it is presented there? According to wikipedia article " The site has been referenced by news media and other sites, including CNN,FOX news, MSNBC and Australia's ABC. Surely wikipedia could reference this site too, and now I added yet another source, an article by CTV News --Mbz1 (talk) 23:09, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI, I just removed the WWN and Snopes sources and then added some newspaper sources. Not quite a Featured Article yet, but problems with unreliable sourcing/unverifiability are now taken care of. Qrsdogg (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh look, one of Mbz1's buddies pops up again to approve a severely flawed article. Fancy that. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed the changes to the article since my previous comment, and no, it still isn't suitable for the main page. If you write an article based on unreliable sources, then swap in the citations for reliable sources without changing any of the article text, you cannot now be said to have an article based on reliable sources. The article still contains statements that appear in none of the cited sources and that indeed were noted to be untrue even by Snopes, which was cited previously, such as the statement that Stigler was ordered to shoot down the Pub plane. I'd say this needs to be scrapped and rewritten from scratch, consulting only reliable sources. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Like in all such stories there are some discrepancies there between reliable sources. For example one source says that 3 engines of Brown's plane did not work, another source says 2 did not work. Even people who took part in the events are telling slightly different versions of the story as time passes. It is natural, and there's nothing wrong with this. The core of the article stays the same in all sources: a German pilot let an American pilot and his crew go, and the men met some years later and got to be friends.
Please do not allow to prevent this kind, such needed in our angry time story, to warm the hearts of wikipedia readers. It will be a wrong thing to do.--Mbz1 (talk) 21:48, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry you feel that way, but I trust you to be able to move beyond it and focus on making constructive changes to the article, instead of ad hominem attacks on people who criticize it. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 23:37, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, "constructive" changes to the article were made, the only problem you mentioned in your decline reason was removed, but your decline, actually two declines are still on.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • A couple things: a. I just went through and removed all the info that I couldn't find in these three articles [24][25][26]. Some of what I removed is probably available in some sources, but make sure if you re-add anything it has inline citations. b. Let's try really hard to comment on content, not contributors. Qrsdogg (talk) 22:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note 2: Inline citations have been added to the article. Qrsdogg (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, and I added some of removed information right back because it is supported by at least one RS, and not only the three you listed above, but by other two I added yesterday myself.I do not believe anything should have been removed including two sources user:Roscelese claimed to be unreliable. If the article were sourced only by those two sources, then yes, but, if so called unreliable sources repeat the same story as reliable ones do, how unreliable they really are? How unreliable could be this source with the pictures and interviews of the men? This article is not about an exact science, this article is not under any topic that is a subject of discretionary sanctions, this article is about a war story, a story that is retold every single time with some new details added and some old details missing and/or changed. The reliable sources that are used in the article now have some discrepancies too. It is OK. What the difference does it make how many engines Brown's plane lost? What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own? How this particular information could affect wikipedia's main page readers? IMO removing information from the article means giving in to a bad faith decline.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"What the difference does it make,if Stigler was ordered to fly after the Brown's plane, or he decided to do it on his own?" - Wait, really? "What difference does it make to the reader if our editors just make things up?" This is really a question someone is posing on Wikipedia, on a main-page proposal no less? Roscelese (talkcontribs) 01:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This was removed! Move on, please. Come up with new decline reasons, or remove the ones you have now.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:58, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, hook and refs of reliable sources check out as of the current version (which for the record is [27]). The problems raised by the decliner have been rectified. Until someone points out a specific example of something that currently fails to reflect the information in the refs, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 11:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure you want to approve that hook? Maybe one with proper grammar and a comprehensible sentence structure would be better... Beeblebrox (talk) 19:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 1: ... that during World War II a Luftwaffe pilot, observing that there were several wounded crewmen on an United States Army Air Corps's plane, declined to fire and actually safely escorted it to the North Sea? Beeblebrox (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clinton St. Baking Company & Restaurant

Line of people waiting outside red restaurant with sign saying Clinton St. Baking Company & Restaurant

Created by --Epeefleche (talk) 16:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC). Self nom.[reply]

Women's tennis in Australia

Created by LauraHale (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 11:55, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andreacarus voalavo, Voalavo gymnocaudus

  • Reviewed: Pimoa cthulhu
  • Comment: The mite is new, the rodent just expanded well over five times.

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 03:02, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Albion Brewing Company

Created by Chimino (talk). Self nom at 02:36, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you direct us to where that is stated in the ref? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is not directly stated, but describes the process of it becoming the first microbrewery; I've provided two additional sources which make the claim directly. Let me know if sufficient...--Chimino (talk) 21:08, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The second ref strikes me as questionable (as to whether it is an RS). The third ref happily is clearly an RS. It refers to the company, however, as "the first ground-up craft brewery in the United States". That is fodder for a hook, but seems a bit different than what is stated in the current hook.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds okay, if the term wikilinks to "microbrewery". There's also this quote "his influence played a significant role for the first successful batch of microbrewers.”[28] All in all, it seems to be generally implied it was the first microbrewer, but I can't find a verifiable source stating it plainly...--Chimino (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see that "craft brewery" redirects to "microbrewery". I'm not quite sure what the phrase "ground-up" means or adds. Nor (perhaps I am missing it) do I see the reference to "since Prohibition". So, as to the hook, I think there is one here, but I would appreciate another editor suggesting the best way to phrase it. Perhaps it is to change "microbrewery" to "craft brewery" (or perhaps that is not even necessary ... I defer to others), and to delete (unless there is support for it) the phrase "since Prohibition"? Another editor's input would be appreciated.--Epeefleche (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree a third opinion would help; the problem with "microbrewery" and "craft beer" owning the same article is the former referring to volume produced while the latter describes style.--Chimino (talk) 03:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't tell which statement in ref 1 (Brewers Association) is supposed to support the statement. Ref 2 (Beer Festivals) isn't really RS. Ref 3 (NY Observer) is RS, but I, like Epeefleche, am not at all sure that "ground-up craft brewery" is equivalent to "microbrewery since Prohibition." I think it's probably better to scrap this hook idea (and remove the statement from the article) and go for another interesting fact from the article, like its having basically started the microbrewery trend (this is supported by the Observer). Roscelese (talkcontribs) 23:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've rewritten the hook & lede, removing the dubious source. Let me know what you think...--Chimino (talk) 11:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Raymond V. Kirk

  • ... that when Father Raymond V. Kirk was appointed president of Duquesne University at the age of 38, he was one of the youngest university presidents in the United States?

Created by Alekjds (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Warblington Castle

Created by Geni (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article is new enough (11 May 2011) and long enought (1678 prose charaters) and reads nicely. However, I would suggest that it mentions the castle's location in the script (Warblington Castle is near Langstone in Hampshire) rather than leave it in the footnotes. Philipjelley (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't actualy have a source for that. The closest I've got would be "in fields near the edge of Chichester Harbour". The problem is that it sits in a gap between settlements.©Geni 22:17, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On p32 of the Reader's Digest Touring Guide to Britian, Reader's Digest Assoication Limited, (1992) it says of Langstone "A mile east, ruins of 16th-century Warbington Castle and Saxon Church with 14th-century wooden porch." You could just say its near Havant, north-east of Portsmouth or between Southampton and Chichester. It's just that I read the article and wondered where the castle was, so I looked it up. Regards, Philipjelley (talk) 22:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've added "in Hampshire" to the hook. Nyttend (talk) 23:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Make it "near Langstone in Hampshire Philipjelley (talk) 12:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1946-47 Ashes series

Dr. H. V. Evatt

5x expanded by Philipjelley (talk). Self nom at 22:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The article was created on 27 April 2011, but the prose content has increased over fivefold in the last five days (from c1,500 to c11,000) Philipjelley (talk) 22:50, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Velappan

Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. However, hook needs an additional reference to be cited in the article on Velappan's date/year of retirement. Also, please review another article, if you have contributed more than 5 DYKS.--Nvvchar. 08:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dagan (bishop)

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 13:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 13

Croton North Railroad Station

A brick building seen from its right front. It has a peaked black roof with red trim and a broad overhang. In front of it are rusted railroad tracks. Two old green passenger cars are behind it to the left.

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Teraterpeton

Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walt Disney's Riverfront Square

Created by AtionSong (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:24, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed:Ahalya (diff)

Upper Wardha Dam

Upper Wardha Dam
  • ... that families of farmers and fishermen affected by submergence of the Upper Wardha Dam (pictured), in Maharashtra resorted to agitation seeking fishing rights in the reservoir, as an economic incentive?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Janardhan Mitta

  • Reviewed: OZ Group
  • Comment: Will be adding more to the article, but it is already 1800 characters of prose and long enough for DYK.

Created by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 05:32, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegrin nationality law

5x expanded by Eric Baer (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William Rogers (engraver)

Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window by William Rogers

Created by PKM (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • May I suggest ALT1: "... that Will Rogers' engraved portrait Queen Elizabeth Standing in a Room with a Lattice Window (pictured) is based on a drawing by Isaac Oliver?"
Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Now that is funny. :-) - PKM (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

San Cristóbal de las Casas

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 00:06, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • (edit conflict) Very nice. Hook could be rephrased to avoid the awkward "related to" the Zapatistas, though - something like:
ALT1: ... that San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico has a "Zapaturismo" industry of tourists interested in the Zapatista uprising of 1994? Roscelese (talkcontribs) 02:10, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WASP-15b

5x expanded by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: M-134 (Michigan highway) --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

8th (Midlands) Parachute Battalion


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Kingdom of the Little People

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Khin Ohmar

ALT1: ... that US First Lady Laura Bush described Women's League of Burma activist Khin Ohmar as "one of the strongest voices against Burma's violent regime"?
ALT2: ... that in 2008, Khin Ohmar won the Global Leadership Award and the Anna Lindh Prize for her work with the Burmese democracy movement?
Reviewed: Antoin Miliordos

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 16:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2030 (novel)

  • ... that 2030: The Real Story of What Happens to America, Albert Brooks' 2011 dystopian novel, was originally written as a movie script?

Created by Lexein (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewed Go the Fuck to Sleep, below --Lexein (talk) 16:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Dates and sizes check OK. It may need a section about the plot, rather than in the lead, but that's for future development, the article seems acceptable as it is. Cambalachero (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antoin Miliordos

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, hook all check out. And a great hook it is. -- Khazar (talk) 16:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wireless network#Uses

5x expanded by Ndystorms (talk). Nominated by Lsukari (talk) at 11:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry, but expansion of a specific section is not sufficient, unless it brings the article as a whole up to 5x expansion. In this case the article has only been expanded about 1.7x, from 4396 to 7448 characters. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Xanthostemon chrysanthus

flowering tree in garden

  • ... that the golden penda (pictured) can flower at any time of year?
  • Comment: silly hook but actually goes well with impressive pic

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 10:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The other image looks great big, but you are right it does get a little lost as a thumbnail. It is a spectacular plant in flower - (dammit I drove past one in flower the other day...if only I could remember where it was...). Look, the person uploading this to a queue can play with whichever image they think is ok, I am not fussed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Showy ellow flowers of Xanthostemon chrysanthus

Saints Martin and Sebastian of the Swiss

Created by Afernand74 (talk). Self nom at 09:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length & data verified. Hook length good. Image license OK. Foreign language reference accepted in good faith - claim verified online (Catholic Encylopedia, 1913). Nice article.
Good to go. Haruth (talk) 09:39, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Giles Muhame

Reviewed:Gidleigh Park
Note: This could use a touch of extra attention as a very controversial figure--he's the guy who outed David Kato before Kato's murder. I've tried to pick a humorous and tightly-sourced hook here that doesn't implicate him in murder, but I'm up for other ALTs too.

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 05:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Taaffeite

Extremely rare, gem quality Taaffeite

  • ... that Taaffeite (pictured) is regarded as one of the rarest gemstone minerals in the world?

5x expanded by Haruth (talk). Self nom at 05:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I slightly tweaked the hook for you. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:08, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Go the Fuck to Sleep

Created by Kelapstick (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 04:13, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed nursing practice, below.
  • Article size ok, citations okay, hook basically ok, length=206, - I'd take out "PDFs" since it's not wikilinked. Otherwise good.--Lexein (talk) 16:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've made a minor tweak. I'm not totally happy with the hook but don't know how to phrase it any better. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • And when this goes live, can we have it at a time when all the mommies and daddies in the US who also read/edit Wikipedia are just done putting those rats to bed? And can I say that my darlings don't take two hours to go to sleep? One and a half at the most? And that last night I only had to get up twice, at 1:15 and at 1:45? *Yawn.* Drmies (talk) 17:09, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That hook works, but how about one of these:
    ALT1:... that free PDF copies of Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep pushed the book to #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list a month before its scheduled release?
    or
    ALT2:... that Adam Mansbach's bedtime-book Go the Fuck to Sleep was #1 on Amazon.com's bestseller list on May 12, 2011—a month before it was to be released—thanks to free advance copies emailed via PDFs? OCNative (talk)
best so far for size, links, and clarity. Good to go. --Lexein (talk) 02:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nursing practice

Created/expanded by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:07, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm. The article is cleanly organized, but there are two issues. First of all, given that the sourcing comes from a college, a council, and a company of lawyers, the article is rather one-sided and focuses exclusively on the description of current practice, without acknowledging that there may well be a history to the topic. (This is not the same point as a certain lack of reliable sourcing.) Second, there currently is a merge proposal, and I don't think an article should be on the front page while there is no consensus on whether it can stand alone. This may change in a couple of days, as may the other problem I see. Right now, the article is not ready yet. Drmies (talk) 04:22, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 14

Jesse Levan

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Grammy Award for Best Long Form Music Video. — KV5Talk18:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Meat dress of Lady Gaga

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 16:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coloptychon rhombifer

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Grammy Award for Best Long Form Music Video

5x expanded by Crystal Clear x3 (talk). Self nom at 10:26, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ahalya

A young woman in a white sari leaning on a tree

  • ... that according to Hindu mythology, the god-king Indra was cursed with having a thousand vagina marks on his body for having extra-martial sex with Ahalya (pictured)?

5x expanded by Redtigerxyz (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and 5x expansion check out. Offline reference accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Voalavo

  • ... that breeding males of the Malagasy rodent Voalavo produce a sweet-smelling musk?

5x expanded by Ucucha (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Badai Pasti Berlalu (novel), Badai Pasti Berlalu (film), Badai Pasti Berlalu (album), Badai Pasti Berlalu (song)

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if possible could we have it for June 5th (when the novel started its original run as a serial in Kompas)? Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ascension of Jesus in Christian art

Ascension by Dosso Dossi

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anzac Avenue

Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ([37])

5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Please be encouraged to get a good photo to go with the hook. You still have 4 weeks. Lots of time. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 14:08, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 12 (Pentecost)

Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]