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[[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Length is fine, and the article is well written and nicely illustrated. However - there are some minor issues: The text of the hook is not explicitly in the given source, which only says "The Bridge of Peace possesses an interactive light display system. 30,000 LEDs and 240 sensors installed within the structure convey specific messages, scrolled across the two parapets of the bridge every hour. The universal messages are relayed in Morse code and signify the human elements according to the Mendeleiev table". Also, the link to the 4th reference just take you to the Philips Lumileds home page, not the actual interview with the designer. [[User:Tzu Zha Men|Tzu Zha Men]] ([[User talk:Tzu Zha Men|talk]]) 20:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
:* [[File:Symbol question.svg|16px]] Length is fine, and the article is well written and nicely illustrated. However - there are some minor issues: The text of the hook is not explicitly in the given source, which only says "The Bridge of Peace possesses an interactive light display system. 30,000 LEDs and 240 sensors installed within the structure convey specific messages, scrolled across the two parapets of the bridge every hour. The universal messages are relayed in Morse code and signify the human elements according to the Mendeleiev table". Also, the link to the 4th reference just take you to the Philips Lumileds home page, not the actual interview with the designer. [[User:Tzu Zha Men|Tzu Zha Men]] ([[User talk:Tzu Zha Men|talk]]) 20:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)





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Articles created/expanded on April 19

Megalithic Yard, Euan Mackie

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • And that probably most archaeologists and statisticians who have looked at this say it doesn't exist? If the article said '... that 3 million people have been abducted by aliens' it would be obvious that it was WP:Fringe, but this is a subject that not many know about.This should not be asserted as fact. A few of the sources used were very fringe, a couple also unverifiable apparently because they came from the fringe sources, not the original texts. Dougweller (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reviewed William Jones (Welsh radical). Paul Bedson (talk) 21:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook is 235 characters, well over the 200-character limit. Perhaps some of the analogous examples can be removed. OCNative (talk) 17:07, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well spotted, I've deleted the long analogous shell. Paul Bedsontalk 17:14, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • At the moment both the article's lead (because it doesn't " any prominent controversies" and the DYK fail WP:NPOV. This is an alleged measure. Recently we had news stories about an archaeologist who thought we'd found Atlantis. Would we have a DYK presenting this as fact? Dougweller (talk) 04:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Uh what Doug said and Read the well referenced Reception section of the Article its rather enlightening on the issues here The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 23:01, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've changed the hook to make it less so controversial, more consistent and more neutral by showing it's Euan Mackie's point of view. If the validity of a maths calculation is something you can have a point of view about? Paul Bedsontalk 02:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • The change is basically saying 'look, this authority says it's true' without letting readers know other authorities dispute the existence of the Megalithic Yard. The hook is still an attempt to promote a hypothesis which is basically a fringe one (see Talk:Megalithic Yard. I see a related discussion on using DYK to push a particular pov at WT:DYK.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talkcontribs) 05:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This nom is getting pretty old and sufficient time has been given to the nominator to construct a usable hook. If a promotable hook (i.e. one lacking POV concerns and other issues) is not suggested in the next 24 houurs, I am going to reject and remove this nom.4meter4 (talk) 06:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 21

Lisa Head

  • ... that Lisa Head was the second British servicewoman killed on active service in Afghanistan since 2001?

Created by S Marshall (talk). Self nom at 12:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, and hook are all fine. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:51, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article at AFD. Materialscientist (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know where this one is going the AFD is 7/4 in favour of keeping. BUT the hook is not consistent with the article which says she was flown back to Queen Elizabeth hospital in Birmingham. She died there the next day - So she died of wounds in Birmingham England, not on active service in Afghanistan. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • She was mortally injured on active service in Afghanistan and died quickly thereafter, so I don't think it's all that much of a stretch. But alternative suggestions are welcome!—S Marshall T/C 17:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with Marshall on this one. By the logic expressed here, very few people ever die in active service - normally they're in a hospital, on the way to one, or even being pulled out of the line by comrades. This argument seems a bit specious, and I think the hook is fine as it is. Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. She died in the hospital but was killed in Afghanistan. Kind of like how you can be murdered but die in a hospital. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 04:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Accuracy is important guys, and this is simple to fix. Just change the word killed to 'fatally wounded'.4meter4 (talk) 05:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 22

Władysław Raginis

Ruins of one of the bunkers, now a memorial site near Strękowej Góry, Poland

5x expanded by User:Ajh1492 (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Insufficient expansion: 1768 prose characters to 5830 is only 3.3x. Also, the hook, at 253 characters [267 with annotated (pictured)], is over the limit of 200. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • As the user appears to be new to DYK and could potentially be confused since the file size is almost five times expanded, I'll point out that the five times expansion must be of prose (see here and here). Use of a tool such as User:Shubinator/DYKcheck.js (the most accurate) or User:Dr pda/prosesize.js is recommended for determining prose size. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:23, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Its a newbie to DYK - I'm willing to say this is in the spirit of what we require and let 3.3 = 5 this time Victuallers (talk) 18:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also ok with WP:IAR approving this one in order to encourage a newbie. However, we still need a usable hook.4meter4 (talk) 16:35, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
alt1... that Captain Władysław Raginis is referred to as a modern Leonidas due to his heroism in facing German forces which outnumbered the Poles 40:1 at the Battle of Wizna (bunker ruins pictured) in World War II?
Still slightly over 200 chars. GregorB (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Um, I get a 183 character count.Remember not to count (bunker ruins pictured) per DYK policy.4meter4 (talk) 05:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Proposing shorter alt2 below. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
alt1... that Captain Władysław Raginis is known as a modern Leonidas for facing German forces which outnumbered the Poles 40:1 at the Battle of Wizna (bunker ruins pictured) in World War II?
Suggest Nazi Germany with piped Nazi instead of German. Then you could theoretically drop the "in WWII". --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 23

Sofi Fahrman

Created by, --BabbaQ (talk) 21:10, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed E. W. Bastard.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook and prose checks out. Great entertainment hook.--HelloKitta (talk) 23:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
... that Swedish Princess Madeleine was rumoured to be sharing an apartment in New York with her close friend Swedish journalist Sofi Fahrman (pictured)?
 AjaxSmack  01:48, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes sounds better. Hope the picture will be included.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture is great, but the article is a stub (thus not sure it is a good lead). The problem is wikipedia is not meant to be a gossip column. Further, there is no evidence this gossip is notable and close to reality. Materialscientist (talk) 05:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First of all its not a stub in my opinion. Second of all a entertainment stub at times doesnt hurt Wikipedia. And third the story of the proposed hook has been well covered by Swedish media.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with Materialscientist. It's preferable to choose an article closer to a GA in length, depth, quality... to be the lead. And it's better to have a hook based on facts rather than on rumours.
BTW, please take care of the {{orphan}} tag. --PFHLai (talk) 17:47, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If we go with this hook, we need evidence that this was featured in at least several major newspapers (not a one-source story). Materialscientist (talk) 23:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The image is a candidate for deletion Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 24

List of bordering countries with greatest differences in GDP (PPP) per person

Created by User:Kransky. Self nom at 07:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length are fine. I think the article needs more citations though per per D2. Also, is there a way that you could make the citation for the hook more clear? The link goes to a database rather than to the article about Botswana. Fascinating article, BTW. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added/changed a few links. But I am not sure what you are referring to in the hook (I have rewritten the hook to focus more on the measurement, not the border.Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(fixed typo in hook) Sorry, I really wasn't very clear there at all. My thinking was that the fact in the hook wasn't explicitly stated in the prose (though it is obvious in the table). Qrsdogg (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This fact is a little debatable. Assuming the data in the list are correct, Zimbabwe and Botswana are the pair with the greatest relative difference in wealth (Botswana's GDP per capita is 33 times that of Zimbabwe), but it is not the greatest absolute difference (which appears to be Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which differ by $121,000). Ucucha 18:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
True - but given a choice between making a relative comparison or an absolute comparison, would you not agree that a relative comparison is more useful? Income per capita appears to have a longer tail amongst the wealthiest country (if the mean is around $20,000, DR Congo's $300 is much closer to the middle than Qatar's $121,000). The Zimbabwe-Botswana difference highlights two totally different economies. The Saudi Arabia-Qatar differences separates the very rich from the ridiculously super rich. Kransky (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it's probably the more useful comparison. However, my concern is that a reader of the hook may well think that the absolute difference is meant (at the very least, that's what I thought). A hook shouldn't be ambiguous or misleading in that way. Ucucha 14:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added "In relative terms" for hook. Is this sufficient? Kransky (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks. Ucucha 12:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean to say

"Greatest ratio of per capita wealth" sounds ambiguous. Greatest ratio of assets to income? The reference to "differences" makes it clear we are talking about measures of disparity. FYI I tracked down a spreadsheet with all the 309 pairs of countries with a border. I then cross-linked each listed country to its respective figure of GDP(PPP) per capita as listed in the CIA Factbook. I divided the difference between each pair of neighbouring countries, and turned the figure into a proportion. It was then an easy procedure to identify the pairs with the greatest differences. Kransky (talk) 13:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Difference is a wrong term: you divided (took ratio) values in the table, not subtracted (difference). How about countries with disputed status? Materialscientist (talk) 13:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see where you are getting at - strictly speaking difference is a measure of absolute contrast. What term then describes a measure of relative contrast, or can I say "relative difference"? Thanks for changing 'difference' to 'ratio' in the chart BTW. What do you mean by "disputed status"? Kransky (talk) 11:13, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Relative difference" might be Ok if you took a difference and divided it by one of the values, but you just divided, thus ratio. "Difference" might be Ok in the article title though because it means to say "disparity, dissimilarity". "Disputed" meant Kosovo-like entities (Abkhazia, etc.). Materialscientist (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just a thought, but I bet there's a huge difference between Morocco and the (disputed) Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. But you already included Western Saraha, my bad. Qrsdogg (talk) 16:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 26

Pitkin County Courthouse

An ornately decorated brick building with a multicolored tiled lightly peaked roof and a central tower, also ornate. There are small trees in front. On a small projection from the front is a silvery statue of a woman.

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see a couple of areas where additional work appears to be required, both related to reliable sourcing. First, it doesn't seem appropriate to use a mystery novel (Baxter, 2007) as a reliable source in the lede even for the statement that someone "claims" that it's the oldest CO courthouse still used for its original purpose (lots of things claimed in fictional stories are not meant as real claims). Second, the article gives a great deal of architectural description of the building that does not seem to be attributable to any reliable source (i.e., refs 1 and 3 seem only to support a little of what is said). This strikes me as perhaps original research by the nominator, which should also be cut (unless architectural original research is somehow allowed). To be squeaky clean, some of the claims that are cited to elsewhere in WP (e.g., about Hunter Thompson) should also perhaps have references resident in the current article, but that strikes me as much less important, and perhaps (?) ignorable for DYK purposes. Otherwise looks good (adequate length, date, hooks supported, image free, etc.). Thanks/congrats to creator/nominator for all his hard work. Health Researcher (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, neither of those issues are related to the hook per se, but, if you insist ...
*Well, DYK Rule #4 is that the article must be "Within Policy", and one aspect is "reliable sources". And these are not trivial parts of your article. Health Researcher (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, but people usually restrict themselves to reviewing the hook unless the policy violation is really blatant. Daniel Case (talk) 22:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find that claim plausible enough to include. Colorado had only become a state 20 years earlier; not all of its present counties were established at that time and not all the counties then established had built their own courthouses. When creating the relevant Commons category, I kept an eye out for the age of most of the buildings depicted, and none of them in active use as a courthouse were as old as 1890.
  • Mystery novels or "plausibility" based on your own original research just don't seem like how WP mandates that its articles to be reliably sourced. I think you should eliminate the "oldest" claim from the article unless you can find a reliable source. Health Researcher (talk) 22:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Again, see WP:NOTOR. I should perhaps put in a note elaborating on the extent to which this might be true, since we have articles on some of the other county courthouses since they've been listed on the Register as well (The Ouray County Courthouse is also listed, and two years older, but contrary to the uncited article text it doesn't appear in the photo to be in active governmental use. None of other three we have articles on are of that same vintage. Here the Hinsdale County courthouse in Lake City is claimed as the oldest courthouse in the state, but without any distinction as to whether it's still operating. But this says it is (on page 12), then doesn't give a date. This book cites the Park County courthouse in Fairplay as the oldest, giving an 1874 construction date ... but notes it's now used as a library. So I still find it plausible not necessarily that this is a fact but that people in Aspen might believe it to be so. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After further reflection I have removed that claim. One minimally distributed mystery novel, against two other demonstrably older courthouses still used as courthouses, makes it unencylopedic. Daniel Case (talk) 22:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • My description is based on what's visible in the photo, which is a permissible exception to OR. See WP:OI. Daniel Case (talk) 22:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the WP:OI link does not seem to justify the claim that descriptions based on what's visible in the photo are OK, although your statement seems plausible (perhaps it appears elsewhere in WP?). But from my reading of WP:OI, it appears that all your facts must be substantiated by the fotos that you have cited to external sources, rather than to your own original image. Perhaps you could add a few clarifications in the notes to the article, explaining how the features are visible in the external photos? That will help ensure this article is a good example for others (wouldn't we want that for an article linked from the main page?). BTW, I'm not sure where my responsibilities as reviewer precisely end... I'm not sure if I'll be able to offer additional responses. Good luck. Health Researcher (talk) 22:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OI says, specifically, that "Original images created by a Wikipedian are not considered original research, so long as they do not illustrate or introduce unpublished ideas or arguments". Since I'm not making any interpretive statements regarding the architecture, no ideas or arguments, merely describing it using standard architectural terminology, I think I'm OK.

Also, consider that WP:NOTOR says, regarding fictional works, "[a] book, short story, film, or other work of fiction is a primary source for any article or topic regarding that work," I would argue analogously that a publicly visible work of art, fashion or architecture is a source for its own appearance. I also can't seem to find it at the moment but I distinctly recall that textual claims illustrated by an accompanying image need not be cited since the image makes it verifiable. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing the "oldest" claim (which seemed only to be by a fictional character). But I'm not sure that all of what you say about the building is evident from the pictures. For example, you mention "Sandstone belt courses." I don't see the word "sandstone" mentioned in either of the references (#1 and #2), and I don't see how it's obvious in the picture. And how is one supposed to know from the pictures or reference text that the steps are made of sandstone, as you claim a couple of paragraphs later? This building description section continues to strike me as shot through with original research. -- Health Researcher (talk) 23:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because I'm in a reasonably good mood and because you've been so nice about it and it's really not something worth taking a stand on, I have fixed that, too.

However, I felt reasonably comfortable saying "sandstone" because that was obvious when I was actually in front of the building in August. As it turned out, the image resolution isn't high enough to make that clear, which is another reason I'm agreeing with you.

Nevertheless ... stone buildings in Aspen from that period (when the city began banning new commercial timber frame construction because of the fire risk), like the Wheeler Opera House, Brand Building and Collins Block, were almost always made of peachblow sandstone, which was quarried not too far outside of nearby Glenwood Springs and could easily be shipped to Aspen on no-longer-extant rail lines. In my experience writing about buildings, stone is usually quarried locally unless, say, someone wants Vermont marble or whatever and is willing to pay for it, in which case that's usually noted in descriptions of the building. Peachblow sandstone has a distinct light-orange/pinkish tone (see the picture of the Wheeler), and since the trim on the courthouse has it as well (more obvious in this picture), I figured that's what it was.

Had I felt like justifying it, I think it is also OK to say that a building material identified in a sourced section of one article as substance A, and then shown in a picture accompanying another article where less documentation was available but looking otherwise similar to substance A is is substance A. Daniel Case (talk) 04:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel, it strikes me that you are a skilled and enthusiastic/motivated architectural researcher. FWIW (myself not being an architect), your arguments above about the plausibility of sandstone/etc. strike me as persuasive if not compelling. I wonder if some of the Aspen-area newspapers would be interested in having you publish an architectural column? But from the standpoint of Wikipedia (WP), I'm concerned that you keep wanting to step over the line into doing original research. The context you gave above to justify the sandstone claims (e.g., context about your personal visit to the building and about nearby buildings and history of quarries) seems very compelling as original research, but equally irrelevant to WP, given WP's policy on no original research. Of course, now that you've eliminated the sandstone claim, all of this is moot.
But what is not moot is that there appear to me to be other facts in the article that are also unbacked by either reliable textual sources or by images from which they are readily extractable. For example, what is the backing for the claim that "A large modern extension containing the jail is located to the rear" (I see no inline footnote nor any mention of a jail in refs 1 and 2)? Similarly, what is the basis for stating that the Lady Justice is made of zinc (none of refs 1, 2, 4, or 10 seem to offer support)? It is not that I doubt that these claims are true, but remember that WP is not about truth (WP:TRUE), it's about verifiability (WP:V). I'm asserting these points not because I want to give you a hard time, but because it's my understanding that my job as a reviewer is to help make sure that the article adhere's to WP policy, including the no original research policy.
At this point I have the sense that we could go back and forth several times with me digging up more unverified claims, and you either removing them or substantiating them, or both. But I think a few more rounds of this process would risk being annoying to both of us - to you, because you might feel I was tormenting you, and to me because I didn't plan on such a large commitment when I volunteered to be a DYK reviewer. My opinion is that you should reread and carefully consider WP's policies about no original research, and then go through your building description with a fine-toothed comb, removing everything that cannot be properly sourced. I will be very surprised if you do not need to remove more items than what I've already mentioned. And then perhaps some other reviewer (or DYK administrator?) can offer an opinion about whether you're ready to go.
Please don't take this personally, I'm just doing my job as I understand it. And I suspect you could write very interesting columns for a local newspaper. Best -- Health Researcher (talk) 16:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS Though you eliminated some of the claims about sandstone (perhaps all the ones that I mentioned), I see that there are still some claims elsewhere in the article about sandstone. -- Health Researcher (talk) 16:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

California On-Road Heavy-Duty Diesel Vehicles Regulation

Created by Elyane Stefanick (talk) |Sonam Gill (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

. Not 5x expansion in .

  • Actually, it was in a userspace sandbox until the 26th of April, so it can be counted as a new article. Qrsdogg (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date and length check out. However, the references are not properly formatted.4meter4 (talk) 23:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jihadi tourism

Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Qrsdogg (talk) at 17:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked hook again. Qrsdogg (talk) 18:01, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Using DYK "to promote one side of an ongoing dispute" violates DYK policy. Here's still another article that would lead one to believe that Muslims in general, and Israel's opponents in particular, are despicable people who even devote their vacations to indulge their preoccupation with homicide. What percentage of Muslims worldwide participate in this so-called "tourism"? One in 10,000? In 100,000? Based on recent DYK appearances, one could be forgiven for gathering the impression that Wikipedia is extremely anti-Arab and extremely anti-Muslim. We've had more than enough appropriation of DYK for Wikipedia's Israel-Palestine battleground already, thank you very much.  – OhioStandard (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that this article is being used to "promote one side of an ongoing dispute" or characterizes "Israel's opponents" as "despicable people". Are there any specific instances of bias in this article that you could point out? Is it mis-representing the sources in some way? Are there other sources you could recommend that would add balance to the article? Qrsdogg (talk) 23:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is interesting subject, something I never knew about. It is well sourced. It is sufficiently neutral and tells also about US and British citizens. Ohiostandard, what "sides" are you talking about? Muslims? Are they really a "side" in any ongoing conflict? And what is another "side"? Christians? Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While the topic is controversial, Anna Frodesiak has done a good job on the article and the hook. I do not see in the article or the hook any implication that all Muslims are terrorists or that many Muslims take part in such tourism. My own objection to controversial topics is really that it is hard to create an NPOV article that is stable. But I think the concern raised by OhioStandard should be dealt with thoughtfully; it seems wrong to slap an OK on top of a NO, especially when it is done with an insulting edit summary. Are there sources giving some indication of the numbers of people involved in Jihadi tourism? Most likely the actual numbers are quite small. betsythedevine (talk) 03:58, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Qrsdogg asked me to comment on this nom. Regarding Ohio's objections, I don't believe we can oppose articles merely based on the fact that they might portray some group or another in a negative light by virtue of the subject matter. That would be akin to censorship. I do have some concerns about this article however, mainly that the article seems to be a WP:SYNTH collection of events based on a WP:NEOLOGISM that doesn't even appear to have an established meaning at this point. Probably the best way to deal with those issues would be to open an AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article is now at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Back to the original comment by Ohiostandrd. What Israel? This article tells nothing about Israel. What POV? There is no any discussion at article talk page. Hodja Nasreddin (talk) 11:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Minneapolis wireless internet network

Created by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self nom at 00:55, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed. Provides adequate information. Good citations. The lead could be more concise. No need for details on the bidding process, construction schedules, etc. in the lead. Or it's not clear to me why those details should be in the lead. Hybernator (talk) 22:21, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was just trying to summarize the contents of the article per WP:LEAD, but I do agree that it's a little daunting. I split it into two paragraphs and shortened the references to the bidding process and network setup. Better? BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 01:49, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 27

Mitch Henderson

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article looks fine, but I cannot find the claim of the hook refed in the article body. The only mentions of winning streaks that I see are both for 19 games. I'd also like to have this streak in perspective, is a 20 game streak uncommon in BB? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • During his junior year the team ended the regular season with a 19-game winning streak (reffed) and lost their first game in the NCAA tournament. The ref noted that 19 tied the school record. The following season, they again ended the season with a 19-game winning streak but then won their first NCAA game. In both cases the 19th win was reffed. Is there any doubt the team won 20 in a row and broke the record in his senior year?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 28

Armstrong’s Point

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Almost everything checks out, but this hook is entirely copied from the source material. I think this constitutes some form of WP:COPYVIO, and it should be rewritten in both the article and the given hook. --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The hook should be rephrased. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook, and refs are verified for alt 1. Copy vio no longer a concern.4meter4 (talk) 12:35, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Bear Smart Initiative

  • ... that the black bear of western North Carolina is becoming such a problem that there are developing initiatives to address the problem?

Created by Tdtallent1 (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Needs proper formatting. Nominator notified. PhantomPlugger (talk) 19:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Villa Giulia (Palermo)

Created by User:CycloneGU (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article was first created as a ten word stub, speedily deleted, restored and moved to userspace. I have since helped put together a new page for it in userspace and it moved out on the 28th when I moved it to its permanent home. I have thus tagged it as a new article instead of an expansion.
  • The article is a bit short but barely makes the 1500 character requirement. I also have concerns over the referencing; all except one are to travel industry sites which are not really reliable. The final one is the site of the City of Palermo. All of those, and especially the travel sites can be expected to not be independant and to puff up their destinations, although to be fair I cannot actually read any of the text (it is in Italian). The article would benefit from some book sources to bolster the refs. SpinningSpark 12:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • That is one issue I am having, finding other sites that can give more information to the article. Most of the information I can glean is in fact Italian; some of the text is a rough translation of the Italian Wikipedia version (noted on the talk page), in fact. I'm not the best at source-hunting; are there other sources you can help me with that might assist me and also the IP editor with adding content to the article? There's no doubt it's a notable garden in Palermo, there's just not a lot of information on it that I can find for an article. Kinda bugs me. CycloneGU (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 29

Lolita (opera)

couple, his right arm around her shoulders

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's no longer a DYK article in Prep 2. —Bruce1eetalk 12:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling of Shakespeare's name

Created by Paul Barlow (talk). Nominated by Roscelese (talk) at 20:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewing: --Philcha (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook length OK. --Philcha (talk) 14:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • No citation specifically for "most importantly Samuel Taylor Coleridge" in the article. --Philcha (talk) 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many uncited paras. --Philcha (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article length fine: created 11:50, 29 April 2011; at last edit before nom, 20:40, 2 May 2011 w/o lead 13,005 chars and w lead 14,483. --Philcha (talk) 14:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Much of the stuff is easy to cite, I just don't like overburdening paragraphs with citations to what is not in dispute (anyone can click on links to see the spellings). As for Coleridge, the issue is slightly complicated by the fact that a lot of his works were published after his death, but his own 1807 book Shakespere uses the spelling. I'll add a cite now. Paul B (talk) 14:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a few notes and made some corrections. The Coleridge issue is very complicated because so much was transcribed and edited by other people into published form. There's no doubt that the fact that his books used the spelling was influential in the 19th century, but it is less clear that he personally had a preference fro it. It may be better to change the hook. It could become "there have been heated arguments over whether the correct Spelling of Shakespeare's name should be "Shakspere". or maybe "that the most common spelling of William Shakespeare's name changed to "Shakespear", "Shakspeare" and then "Shakspere", before becoming Shakepeare again". Paul B (talk) 18:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Still no cites for paras "If unhyphenated the name is most commonly spelled "Shakespeare" ...", "The choice of spelling for the Stratford man varied. Because he is known to have signed ..." --Philcha (talk) 09:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Even though the first paragraph you mention is already covered by existing citations I have put one in. There are five citations in the second paragraph. You seem to have confused an inset quotation with a paragraph break. Is there some rule that just because there is a paragraph break there must be a new footnote? Paul B (talk) 11:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Native American Languages Act of 1990

Created by Kuluppis (talk). Nominated by Mike Cline (talk) at 13:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The killer is article length. --Philcha (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • hook length OK
  • hook in article and cited OK
  • no cites for paras "The Act's provisions came from the International Native American Language conference ...", "United Nations Draft Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, 1993", The concern for indigenous language survival has incited movements across the globe ..."
  • The killer is article length - an existing article must be expanded 5x in 5 days. Nom'd at 13:28, 2 May 2011, last edit before that 01:05, 2 May 2011 w length 11435. Last edited before 5 days earlier (i.e. start of DYK limit) as 02:05, 24 April 2011 10,568. I'm sorry. --Philcha (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
* Comment This is a New article - created on April 29 from a move from an editor's sandbox. Prior to Apr 29, this article did not exist in the main space. I don't think the 5X rule applies. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A new article is one created from zero. This article was 10,568 chars at 02:05, 24 April 2011 10,568. When some one copied it into a sandox is irrelevant. --Philcha (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect Philcha. DYK policy (see rule D8 in Wikipedia:Did you know/Additional rules) is to count from the day that the article enters mainspace. Any DYK old timer will tell you this. Indeed the JavaScript tool DYKcheck will actually check for user space moves to help determine the correct date of creation. Editors can edit work in user space for as long as they want without being penalized. Date of creation is counted from the day the article first appeared in mainspace.4meter4 (talk) 13:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
D8 says ""Five days old" means five days old in article space. You may write your article on a user subpage and perfect it for months. The five days start when you move it into article space." But the history of this article shows it was created in article space on 7 February 2011 and at 02:05, 24 April 2011 was already 10,568 chars in article space. So for a DYK nom on 13:28, 2 May 2011 it would need 5x of 10,568 chars, i.e. almost 51,300 chars - but at nom it had 11,435 chars. --Philcha (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No, the article was clearly moved from a user subpage to the article space on 12:02, 29 April 2011 (UTC), as can be seen from this diff. The 7 February 2011 date is when it was created in the user subpage. When the page was moved from the user subpage to the article space, the history also moved from the user subpage to the article space. 4meter4 is absolutely correct. OCNative (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook fact, and hook are all good. However, more inline citations are needed as mentioned above.4meter4 (talk) 13:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you moved the history of the sandbox, that would been very silly, as it prevents the article's history from showing when it entered article space. I also use sandboxes, but I create the blank article by typing the name in WP's main menu and clicking "Go". Then I go to another tab, edit the sandbox, copy the markup (CTRL-C in Windows), go to the blank article's tab, paste (CTRL-V in Windows), preview (e.g. make pics operational) and save. That way the new article's history shows exactly when it entered article space, and that's when the clock ticks. If you moved the history of the sandbox, it is impossible to see when it entered article space, the only timing of events is what was copied from the sandbox, and that shows creation in Feb. If you can get an uninvolved admin to show here when the article really entered article space and its length at that time, I'll re-check it. And remember what I told you about to use sandboxes without corrupting an article's history. --Philcha (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Uninvolved admin here. Article was moved into mainspace from user sandbox at 13:02 on 29 April 2011. BigDom 20:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unadilla class gunboat

Unadilla class gunboat

Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know, I deliberately didn't do the review because I wanted some time to do some cleanup work on the related ship articles first. I'm not sure I will get time to do that now, but I'll complete the review when I've done what I can, thanks for noticing :) Gatoclass (talk) 07:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go, tag is usefully refed. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Vietnam

Young Vietnamese ladies in áo dài during the APEC 2006 event

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 22:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1: ... that one of the consequences of failed marriages between Taiwanese men and Vietnamese women is Vietnamese-born stateless persons? - AnakngAraw (talk) 23:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a nice start-up article. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked ALT1 and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What "other article" should be reviewed by me? I don't understand? Which "other article" are you referrring to?-AnakngAraw (talk) 02:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Teresa de Jesús (film) article. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:30, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review verified. Since Yoninah has already verified date, length, and ALT1, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 05:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

James Beeching

Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 09:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, size, hook, and ref check out. Looks good. --jjron (talk) 05:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Florida Council of 100

  • ... that after 30+ years as an advisory body, the now Republican-dominated Florida Council of 100 began taking an activist role during terms of Governor Jeb Bush, funding studies and proposing solutions?
  • ALT1:... that during the terms of Governor Jeb Bush, the Republican-dominated Florida Council of 100 began taking an activist role, funding studies and proposing solutions to critical issues?
  • Reviewed: TBA

Created by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ristiḱ Palace

Ristic Palace-Heritage Monument
  • ... that the government of Skopje passed a law to preserve the Ristiḱ Palace (pictured) as a "Cultural Heritage" when it was threatened of destruction for illegal infringement?

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Link to vecer.com.mk source does not seem to work either in Internet Explorer or Opera browsers. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the self-nominators still need to do a review of another article. OCNative (talk) 01:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry for the lapse. It escaped my attention. I have now reviewed Jack Moline.--Nvvchar. 08:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matador Ranch

small white ranch house

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory
  • Length, date verified. Hook's offline ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Land Yeo

Still water surrounded by stones with trees and a house beyond

  • ... that the small Land Yeo river in Somerset, England has powered at least ten watermills (Lower Barrow Mill pictured) in the last 1,000 years?

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ok for hook, length, date and source. But why "at least ten", both the article and the source list 11? SpinningSpark 20:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are some others in this ref and some speculation about the site of some mills, or whether there were one or two (or more) mills in some villages hundreds of years ago. Therefore we can be sure there were more than ten, but can't be sure of any more exact figure.— Rod talk 07:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory

white clapboard building, with "Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory" sign

Created by Epeefleche (talk). Self nom at --Epeefleche (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:52, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Phipson

Church tower at Great Finborough, nicknamed "Thunderbird One".

Created/expanded by User:Drmies (talk), User:Malleus Fatuorum (talk), User:Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the extra credits and "DYKmake" credit templates. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Evangelist's Church, Chichester

A simple, Low church-style altar in St John the Evangelist's Church, Chichester, covered with a deep red altar cloth and set behind wooden railings

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 16:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fantastic. Look up at Richard Phipson: I feel embarrassed for nominating what is in comparison a little stub. I like the kitchen table hook best. I hope you don't mind: I changed preterite to present ("resembles"). I don't know how to crop images on Commons, but I did add it to the DYK entry. Drmies (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've cropped the pic and added it. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Teufelsturm

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on April 30

Aman Sveti Stefan

Sveti Stefan peninsula
  • ... that the Sveti Stefan Hotel in Montenegro was described as a "70s Adriatic playground on a hilly peninsula (pictured) that's barely connected to the mainland"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 09:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article a few hours late in posting, apologies. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Women in Cambodia.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Torigi

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this nom --Philcha (talk) 20:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry's Painting

Created by NetflixSoup (talk). Nominated by Hunter Kahn (talk) at 00:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Barry John

X5 Expansion by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 22:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maria di Gerlando

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice job. --Philcha (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • hook length fine
    • hook in article and cited OK
    • cites in all paras OK
    • Article created 13:49, 30 April 2011, last edit before nom was 06:57, 4 May 2011 at over 2100 chars plain text. --Philcha (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RideShare Delaware

An illustrated car surrounded by the words RideShare Delaware.
  • ... that RideShare Delaware (logo pictured) forms carpools from a database that grew to include 15,000 commuters in 2009?

Created by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wedding dress of Jacqueline Bouvier, Pink Chanel suit of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Ericoides (talk) Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length OK. Hook ref verified for first article; AGF for second. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the self-nominators needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since Yoninah says the date, length, and hook check out, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wedding dress of Grace Kelly

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Jenks24 (talk). Self nom at 10:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Frontera Corozal, Chiapas

  • Good to go Dr. B. Date, hook, length and general quality all of the highest quality. Great page and beautiful dress (nicer than Catherine Middleton's imho. Paul Bedsontalk 18:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 could possibly be taken somewhat wrongly. Miss Rose was not just the person who sewed-up Grace Kelly's wedding dress. She was also the designer of Elizabeth Taylor's wedding dresses in the movies ("Father of the Bride") and in real life (for her wedding to Nicky Hilton) as well as designer of Miss Taylor's outfits for "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof". Rose was a top designer of the 1950s-mid '70s and was never known as just a 'seamstress', not even during her tenure at MGM. Shearonink (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I prefer ALT3. Thanks for the various suggestions.--Nvvchar. 03:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT4, as I want the hook to mention one of the most beloved or popular.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think ALT4 meets everyone's requirements. Hook ref verified. ALT4 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:17, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gianna Galli

  • ... that after soprano Gianna Galli's opera career ended at the age of 40 due to problems with her vocal cords, she had a second successful career as a talent manager of singers in Italy?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • According to the obituary, it wasn't a failed surgery, but rather a problem that surgery at the time simply wasn't advanced enough to correct. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, I read "her opera career ended due to failed surgery" as "the surgery ruined her" (like Julie Andrews) rather than "there was a problem which would have ended her career, and surgery didn't fix it." Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching that, I am only moderately proficient at translating Italian and misread it. I fixed the article and hook accordingly.4meter4 (talk) 05:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good! I've tweaked the hook a bit. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 06:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IceMole

  • Comment: Fourth DYK for User:AshLin, three in line from before.

Created by AshLin (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris

Created by TheRetroGuy (talk) and We hope (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 22:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date and hook reference (ref7&11) are all in order. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 01:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reviewed: Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc. We hope (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date check out. However, the sources don't say that the 1961 Grammy was "the only major award" she ever received. The source simply supports a claim that it is the only Grammy she ever received. To pass, I think the hook would need to be modified accordingly. After all, she has been awarded three stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And according to this source, she won the Downbeat magazine award for Top Singer of the Year in 1945. And according to this source, her 1953 hit "You Belong To me" was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998. Cbl62 (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Changed to "her only Grammy Award" An alternative could be:
  • Interestingly both sources in the query seem to be from self-published books so may not be accurate. TheRetroGuy (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See this discussion. Stafford actually won the Downbeat award as a member of the Pied Pipers, while the song was inducted into the Hall of Fame rather than actually winning a Grammy as such. TheRetroGuy (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wedding dress of Princess Alexandra of Denmark

Princess Alexandra in her wedding dress

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I entrusted that to Nvv,♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:05, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 09:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Mary's Church, Hartwell

The tower and part of the body of a stone church

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and hook are fine, but the prose length is under the minimum 1500 characters (1370 according to DYK Check). January (talk) 11:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops, sorry. Small expansion made which I think now takes it above 1500 characters. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Verified, now ready. January (talk) 12:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plaza Resort Bonaire

laza Resort Bonaire

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Palenque, Chiapas.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

^ Added an img,--Nvvchar. 12:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gatcombe, Somerset

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nom at 08:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Girardet

Created by Sandstein (talk). Self nom at 08:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article relies too heavily on a single source. Outside of the lead, the entire body of the article is cited to a single reference. It's a foriegn language reference being cited, and I'm a little worried now that close paraphrasing may be an issue. I'd like some other opinions on this from seasoned DYK reviewers. Best.4meter4 (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rabboni (steam tug)

Created by Mtsmallwood (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Length and hook verified. (Page 138 of the reference.) Horologium (talk) 11:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Millingtonia

Image of panicles of the white flowers of the tree Millingtonia hortensis

5x expanded by Regstuff (talk). Self nom at 04:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please check your etymology; it contains several errors ("hortens" is not Latin for "garden", for one, and the name of a family derives from its type genus, not vice versa). Remember to italicize scientific names. Ucucha 04:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have italicized scientific names. The derivation of the name is as per the reference cited. Regstuff (talk) 08:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Palenque, Chiapas

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three guesses in which Mexican state I spent my vacation last week!Thelmadatter (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrero? Good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rocky Mountain Bank v. Google Inc.

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 00:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All looks ready to go. We hope (talk) 01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Greg Legg

Created by Killervogel5 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed #GJ 3634 b. — KV5Talk • 23:23, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Date, length, reference checked, good to go. — MT (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GJ 3634 b

  • ... that GJ 3634 b, a recently discovered Super-Earth, is estimated to be over eight times more massive than Earth?

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 23:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Armstrong's Point --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook length, size, expansion/new all confirmed. However: hook should probably be edited a bit to more closely reflect the article. Hook says "nearly eight times more"; article says "estimated to be 8.4 times". Hook should reflect "estimated" and should say "over eight times more massive" instead of nearly, which implies that it's less than eight. — KV5Talk • 23:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How does it look now? --Starstriker7(Talk) 23:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I made a minor change and I think it's good to go now. — KV5Talk • 01:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could I propose an alternate? I just wrote the star article as a counterpart.
ALT1: ... that GJ 3634 b, a recently discovered Super-Earth in orbit around a red dwarf star, is estimated to be over eight times more massive than Earth?
--Starstriker7(Talk) 15:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bang on target. — KV5Talk • 16:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Friedrich Wilhelm Mengelberg

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 21:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and date ok. I will AGF since source for the hook is not available online.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:38, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ruža Tomašić

Created by GregorB (talk). Self nom at 21:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length, citation in Croatian, date checked. Good to go.--Doug Coldwell talk 22:12, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Motley County Historical Museum

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Prince Amukamara

New article, hook checks out. Offline ref accepted on good faith.— Rod talk 08:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Amukamara

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Giants27 (talk). Self nom at 19:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The college major field, pol. sc. or sociology, is unclear. Aslo, I didn't see the name of the Nigerian village of which he is an honorary prince. Has he visited that village? Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:44, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Political science was his major and sociology was where he got his degree in. I didn't find the name of it, but he did visit it.--Giants27(T|C) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's confusing to say that he got a degree in a field other than his major. Do you have the name of the village? Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:48, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just found it and included it in the article.--Giants27(T|C) 23:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The part about his college said that he completed a degree in sociology in seven semesters. It does not seem to mention any study of political science. I find it unclear in the article about his being prince of the Nigerian village. I don't think I would use the hook about the names of his sisters. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the personal section (towards the bottom of the page), it says that he is a political science major.--Giants27(T|C) 20:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I just improved the reference to the names of his sisters, if that changes your feelings about that one at all. I clarified the article, and also added how he is the next in line to be the chief.--Giants27(T|C) 20:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wedding dress of Princess Elizabeth and Coronation gown of Elizabeth II

Coronation gown of Elizabeth II

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 19:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, length, hook ref all verified. Excellent job! Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the self-nominators still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since the date, length, and hook were all verified by Yoninah, this is ready to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At World's Edge

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 18:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. What makes this reference, which is used to verify the hook, a reliable source? Cunard (talk) 00:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Utilizing a press release for a basic fact, I believe is acceptable, in this case who the album was dedicated to. There are bold claims in the release that wouldn't be acceptable such as "represents one of Saisse’s most ambitious and adventurous solo projects to date", "keyboard wiz", and "distinguished career over the past 30 years" but basic facts like the fact that the album is dedicated to his father or that the album is his ninth solo release should be acceptable. I found this conversation Wikipedia talk:Identifying reliable sources/Archive 15#Press Releases - RS? that supports my opinion. J04n(talk page) 12:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just checked the liner notes and the dedication is there, I attributed the fact to the liner notes. J04n(talk page) 12:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Verified. While press releases can be used to verify basic facts, such basic facts are likely also covered by secondary reliable sources. Cunard (talk) 20:45, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frog battery

Frog batteries

Created by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nom at 17:17, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, size and hook check out fine. Free license on the images due to age. One of the more grizzly articles I've reviewed, but should make a good DYK? Perhaps a picture would help. Paul Bedsontalk 02:48, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are images in the article such as the one pasted here, but I did not consider them good enough quality for the front page. But go ahead and use it if you like it. There is not enough time to self-create a work, even assuming I have the necessary skill. SpinningSpark 07:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC) and 13:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Catterick, North Yorkshire

5x expanded by Farrtj (talk). Self nom at 15:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Insufficient expansion: from 1701 to 2612 characters is only about 1.5x. Also, if further expansion is completed, the hook is 258 characters, which is over the limit of 200. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 16:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manuel Martínez Gutiérrez

Manuel Martínez Gutiérrez at a sport event

5x expanded by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 14:20, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date, size and hook check out fine. Free license on the image, also fine for the main page. GregorB (talk) 21:43, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Self-nominator still needs to review another DYK nomination. OCNative (talk) 01:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since GregorB says the date, length, hook, and image check out, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 02:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

156th Parachute Battalion


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 12:10, 30 April 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Reviewed Samuel Paull Andrews 29 Aprils list

11th Parachute Battalion


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Wedding dress of Lady Diana Spencer below.

Henry Norlande Ruttan

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album

5x expanded by Jaespinoza (talk) 02:27, 30 April 2011 (UTC). Self nom at 02:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Under review. Expansion is 5x within last three days - okay. Referencing okay. The fact in the DYK hook appears to be incorrectly portrayed - the name of the album is "Amarte Es Un Placer" which translates to "Loving pleasure" (using Google Translate), the word "unremarkable" was an epithet given by a critic vide the reference for that fact in the article (reference 7). Please reword the hook for reconsideration. AshLin (talk) 04:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • My point is to show that the album recorded by Miguel was named "unremarkable". Maybe I need to rewrite it. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the rewriting is very good, thank you. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Saudi Arabia)

Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • All checks out with good ref. Thank you. Both hooks are good but maybe the 2nd one is more catchy. Victuallers (talk) 07:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Phaeacius

5x expanded by Philcha (talk). Self nom at 08:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date length and references are all good. I don't know about the term "laziest" in the hook though. What do you think of changing it to "unusually lazy" as this follows the reference much better. Also per the sources the prey just has to walk between the outstretched front legs and not into its jaws.--Kevmin § 02:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about "... that Phaeacius, a very lazy jumping spider, waits motionless until prey walks almost into its jaws?" as the ref says what happens next? --Philcha (talk) 08:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That should work.--Kevmin § 17:16, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Philcha, I'm pretty sure I've seen a bunch of reviews from you, so could you list one of them here (and in your future nominations) to make it clear on each nomination that you have reviewed an article? OCNative (talk) 01:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 1

Herbert Grossman

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 07:47, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki-Watch

Wiki-Watch

Created by History2007 (talk) on May 1 2001. Self nom at 18:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook, length, and age check out. Looks good. Interesting article, too. I think I'll check this one out. :D --Starstriker7(Talk) 04:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HMY Alexandra

Royal yacht Alexandra, depicted in a 1915 commercial year book for the shipbuilder A. & J. Inglis

5x expanded by Manxruler (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. History2007 (talk) 23:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Btw, I added a picture, and (pictured) to the hook. Manxruler (talk) 23:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 2011

British boyband Blue performing in Salerno, Italy on 22 June 2005

5x expanded by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Jaespinoza (talk) 01:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Ashot Nadanian

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by MrsHudson (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • The relevant rule is a 2x expansion in 5 days for a BLP article. The history of Ashot Nadanian shows that the article was created on 12 July 2008 and there has not been a 2x expansion in any 5 days period after that. And the creation did not mention Nadanian's student's success. I'm sorry, but the article is not eligible for DYK. --Philcha (talk) 10:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus

Old man looks in wonder at light coming from chemistry flask

Created by Mum's taxi (talk). Nominated by Rock drum (talk) at 08:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Thailand

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: the hook is about Orapin Chaiyakan, thus a random image of a Thai woman doesn't fit here. Materialscientist (talk) 09:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Removed (pictured) and image from DYK hook as requested. - AnakngAraw (talk) 22:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 01:59, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Pride of the Family

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 00:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length just makes it. Date and references also verified. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: George Gibb

Frontera Corozal, Chiapas

5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 23:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An a partial review of Battle for the Río San Juan de Nicaragua, Fortress of the Immaculate Conception, El Castillo (village), El Castillo (municipality), Rafaela HerreraThelmadatter (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, nice job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

German destroyer Z11 Bernd von Arnim

5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion cheks out, offline sources AGF, good to go. Constantine 17:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coaxial speakers

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yohanan Danino

Created by Ynhockey (talk). Self nom at 20:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed John Wesley Snyder (Texas).

Hook length and article length OK. Article is new. Hook fact sourced in article.--DavidCane (talk) 23:46, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Black Versace dress of Elizabeth Hurley

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre Koffmann, La Tante Claire, Pig's trotters

A shiny pink pig's foot standing upright on a bed of carrots and onions

Created/expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pierre Koffmann and La Tante Claire are both new, while Pig's trotters is a 5x expansion. Will review three hooks now and list them below. Miyagawa (talk) 19:56, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
delicious, expansion of Koffmann and trotters verified, dates and refs fine, pic seems no problem, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries

whiles living in the U.K. to win an election without ever meeting the electorates physically? Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: I have not officially reviewed this for DYK, a review still needs to be done.--BelovedFreak 10:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • A request was left at my talk page asking me to review as the nom has been here a while. Length and date anre fine but neither the article or reference say he never met voters physically. I would suggest
ALT1... that during the Ghanaian 2011 New Patriotic Party Primaries, candidate Musa Superior canvassed for votes through twitter and facebook whilst living in the UK?
~If ALT1 suits the nominator - Basement12 (T.C) 15:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnogaster

Two bright yellow mushrooms growing in the ground, each with a red disc at the top.

5x expanded by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Image is public domain, article length and date are good for 5x, and the hook is sourced to an offline text assumed to be worthy as it is a scientific study. Good to go! Binksternet (talk) 21:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Billingshurst Unitarian Chapel

Close view of a simple single-storey building with two windows, a porch, alternating red and grey bricks and some gravestones below the windows.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 14:42, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go, nice job.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:20, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Arteriovenous oxygen difference

Created by Jjron (talk). Self nom at 05:21, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Re ALT1: the hook's the same, but wondering whether using the abbreviation rather than the full term is more catchy? --jjron (talk) 06:16, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Singapore

Singapore’s career women

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 02:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is a new article and has 1849 characters in prose. Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 19:41, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Provided 2 more paragraphs with references anyway as per earlier request. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since Leszek Jańczuk has confirmed that this article checks out, this nomination is ready to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Gibb

  • ... that Sir George Gibb, head of the British government's former Road Board, was accused of having delayed the construction of new roads because he had been a railwayman?

Created by User:DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 16:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Billy Hathorn (talkcontribs) 00:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC) (diff)[reply]


Teresa de Jesús (film)

Created by Health Researcher (talk). Self nom at 17:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is the 4th DYK nomination by the nominator.
- Article has sections that are mainly bulleted list instead of prose. I need a second opinion on this. Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is acceptable. It is a valid and relevant information and the bullets serve to better orientation in the article.--Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 10:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just got the message, and came to look at the concern. It seems that according to the 2nd opinion (Vejvančický), the current format is OK. That's what my common sense says too (without having reviewed policy/guidelines). If necessary it would be easy to reformat as paragraphs, but in my own preference as a reader I think bullet points is actually slightly better - it makes the structure clear. -- Health Researcher (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To DYK administrators: What happens next? If AnakngAraw doesn't add any more comments, will an admin eventually come along and, if he/she agrees with Vejvančický, give the give the article a OK-to-go? -- Health Researcher (talk) 23:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I got a second opinion, plus a third. IMHO, this is now good to go. In addition, may be unconventional but the section concerned is a "synopsis section" anyway. - AnakngAraw (talk) 00:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 2

The Red Onion

A narrow three-story red brick building with ornate black trim, connected to lower buildings on either side, seen from its right, with tree branches entering the frame from either side. The words "Red Onion" are in vertical gold lettering on the right side. In front are tables with red umbrellas and people seated around them.

  • ... that The Red Onion (pictured), the oldest restaurant in Aspen, Colorado, wasn't formally named that until more than 50 years after it was built?

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Jay Meuser

Created by Docoed (talk). Nominated by Ancient Apparition (talk) at 07:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length and history verified; offline refs accepted in good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 15:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Robert H. Paul

Reviewed Khun Bedu herebtphelps (talk) (contribs) 05:15, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Btphelps (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of the Echinades (1427)

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elegy on the Death of Daughter Olga

Olga Janáčková

Created by Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 15:04, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Big Neighborhood

Created by J04n (talk). Self nom at 02:11, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • References are ok. Text at 1,887 characters long. Ready to be DYK'd. - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Armenia

An Armenian woman in traditional attire, circa 1896

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:50, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since Racepacket confirms the hook, length, and ref, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

İnan Süver

Reviewed Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud.

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 22:17, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reference for hook is written by Bono himself, is that acceptable? -AnakngAraw (talk) 03:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You raise a good point. I guess I'd argue that a primary source works in this case, as the existence of the source itself demonstrates the lobbying--in other words, if Bono writes that he's advocating on Suver's behalf, he's demonstrated that he's advocating for Erdogan to do this by the act of writing the post itself, even if he (improbably) never did anything else. Does that make sense? In any case, though, Bono's claim that he asked Erdogan about Suver is a modest one that I think he's unlikely to fabricate. Thanks for reviewing.-- Khazar (talk) 04:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Palace Lodge

A white brick building with a cast-iron front

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 22:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Charm Tong

ALT1: ... that at the age of 17, activist Charm Tong addressed the United Nations Commission on Human Rights on the issue of systematic rape in her home of Shan State, Burma?
Reviewed Wadsworth Jarrell.

Created by Spc2011 (talk) and Khazar (talk). Nominated by Khazar (talk) at 20:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length approved at 2,166 characters, references acceptable and verified. Good to go as DYK. - AnakngAraw (talk) 01:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No Minor Vices

  • Comment: for hook, see ref #3, page 49 [16]
  • Reviewed #The Alchemist Discovering Phosphorus [17]

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jean Perrot

Created by Paul Bedson (talk). Self nom at 19:18, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • - Article at 1,969 characters. However, online reference is linked to a "book cover". Unverifiable. Unless reference is an offline source? - AnakngAraw (talk) 03:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Paleorient Journal website mentions Perrot founding it but I've strenghtened the sourcing with a direct mention here Société préhistorique française, p.3 (1982). Bulletin de la Société préhistorique française. Société préhistorique française. Retrieved 4 May 2011.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) that says about co-founder Bernard Vandermeersch "En 1974, il collabore avec J. Perrot à la création de l'« Association Paléo-rient » dont le but était de lancer la revue Paléorient ... En 1977, Paléorient est devenue une revue du CNRS" on page 3. I'm taking it that was the verification problem, not the famous excavations. Thanks! Paul Bedsontalk 04:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wadsworth Jarrell

Created by SarahStierch (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date good to go. Hook ref offline, accepted IGF. Very nice article. -- Khazar (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gain before feedback

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Roux

5x expanded by Miyagawa (talk). Self nom at 11:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checks out! SarahStierch (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gene Schoor

  • ... that Gene Schoor, the author of more than forty "juvenile" sports biographies, was awarded $5000 damages in a suit against boxing champion Rocky Marciano for being punched by him? 63.17.84.226 (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Created/expanded by 63.17.49.31 (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Lead needs work to bring in line with MOS and the article needs categories. --Mike Cline (talk) 13:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article has categories, e.g., "Litigation."63.17.32.233 (talk) 07:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone who knows what "MOS" means -- make the lead more MOSy?63.17.32.233 (talk) 08:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
MOS stands for Manual Of Style. gz33 (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Issues resolved, article is good to go. Still could be improved with an Infobox, and there are a large number of other articles that cite Schoor's books that could be authorlinked to this article. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Mike Cline. I've added an infobox.63.17.74.194 (talk) 00:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vere Bird, Jr.

  • ... that Antiguan politician Vere Bird, Jr. became Minister of Science, Technology and Communications in 1996, despite an earlier report recommending that he never be allowed to hold public office again?

Created by Ironholds (talk) Self-nom at 20:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well-written article without any problems: it's obviously ready to go. Nyttend (talk) 03:23, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lolowah bint Faisal Al Saud

5x expanded by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

* According DYK Check, article has not been expanded x5. Probably needs just a little more--remember that only visible article text counts. -- Khazar (talk) 22:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've expanded the article further. Thanks for reviewing. - Yk (talk | contrib) 23:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, hook all confirmed. Good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 23:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: always confirm manually when DYKcheck claims insufficient expansion. DYKcheck was wrong here. Expansion was fine before that additional expansion: 366 to 2134 characters is 5.8x. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Mandarax, will keep that in mind. Sorry for the false negative, Yk. -- Khazar (talk) 03:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oneida Street Station

Oneida Street Station

Created by Freekee (talk). Self nom at 01:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

George Edmund Butler‎

Created by Labattblueboy (talk). Self nom at 18:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References, date, hook, length all check out. Nice article good to go. -- Khazar (talk) 02:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 3

Mathieu Ravignat

Created by Þadius (talk), Saforrest (talk), OCNative (talk). Self nom at 02:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's School, Pangbourne

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

W. D. Twichell

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Maryland Bridge

Refs checkout. Newly created on May 3. All looks good. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 04:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Oman

An Omani woman

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 23:56, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Self-nominator still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since Leszek Jańczuk confirms the rest of this nomination, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 06:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Davies

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 20:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Size and date checked, but I don't see where the source says it is a rare distinction. --Muhandes (talk) 10:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're right, I apologize. As a knowledgeable basketball fan, I know that playing for four Hall of Fame coaches is incredibly rare, but you are correct in that the source doesn't explicitly state that. How about removing the word "rare" from the proposed hook? That way, it'd still check out. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The source is quite a mess, but it does look like it mentions only the distinct facts, so it should be enough. I'd use "who are members of the..." instead of "who are now now in the...", which sounds better to me. Also, how do you feel about supplying some context? (when born? when retired?) --Muhandes (talk) 17:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alt1: ...that basketball player Dick Davies played for his Hall of Fame father, Bob, before going on to win a gold medal at the 1964 Summer Olympics? Jrcla2 (talk) 18:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

John Sanford (author)

  • ... that John Sanford was called "perhaps the most outstanding neglected novelist"?

5x expanded by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 20:26, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • 5× expansion and date check out. I have to AGF that the source is correct since it is a book not linked to an internet copy. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Google books yields [20]. "Perhaps" was added to the hook as a result. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 21:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Verified. Jrcla2 (talk) 15:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

William Hamilton (cartoonist)

Created by Gamaliel (talk). Self nom at 19:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

J. Paul Getty Trust

  • ... that the J. Paul Getty Trust is the world's wealthiest art institution with an estimated endowment in April 2009 of $4.2 billion?

5x expanded by Racepacket (talk). Self nom at 18:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date and length Hook reference 1 is accepted in good faith (AGF} sourced to The New York Times.--Nvvchar. 07:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bernard Trottier

Created by OCNative (talk). Self nom at 15:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Is there anything distinctive about this? I assume a lot of candidates won a seat in this manner. Either way, I am declining this under the following clause of the DYK rules: "Articles and hooks featuring election candidates within 30 days of an election in which they are standing should be avoided, unless the hook is a "multi" which includes bolded links to new articles on all the main candidates." BelloWello (talk) 22:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I somehow missed that the incumbent was the leader of the party. Strike. 05:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
    • It's pretty distinctive that he defeated the incumbent party leader. That rule clearly exists to prevent Wikipedia influencing the election; that rule was not meant to apply after the election. OCNative (talk) 02:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • The discussion creating that rule (Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 59#Electioneering hooks), this diff, and this diff clearly show the intent was to prevent Wikipedia influencing an election. A DYK article after the election is fine. OCNative (talk) 03:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I quoted the rule in full, if you want the wording to be changed then take it up at the rule's discussion page. Unless it is changed, I think we should go with the wording in the rule. My interpretation of the rule, as it is currently worded, does not provide an exception for after the election, hence, this hook would not be allowed for nomination for at least 30 days after the election. BelloWello (talk) 03:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        • He's not an "election candidate" if he won, he would be an MP-elect. I think that you're over-analyzing the rules, BelloWello. I agree with OCNative. The rule exists to block marketing of candidates. Royalbroil 04:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • Then why does the rule not say 30 days previous to an election? The rule says 30 days, it doesn't specify before or after. If you think it should be only before, then discuss the change. BelloWello (talk) 04:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
            • Royalbroil does make a good point that he's not a candidate anymore. Here's a precedent: Jonathan W. Perry was featured on DYK for 27 February 2011 eight days after winning an election. OCNative (talk) 05:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
              • So the rules were broken once, doesn't mean we should keep breaking it! I personally have no issue with this specific nomination, but as long as we have rules, we should follow them. If you start a discussion to change the wording of the rule to say 30 days BEFORE an election, I will support it, but unless its changed, I doubt I will change my position. BelloWello (talk) 05:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
                • FWIW, I'd agree with Royalbroil and OCNative that we could just change the wording to MP-elect. Since he's no longer a candidate, this rule is no longer an issue. -- Khazar (talk) 06:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hook fact is good, long enough, new enough. I suggest that we should change the wording of the rules, removing the unintended ambiguity. The election is over, hence there's no issue with DYK featuring this bio. Schwede66 05:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC) [reply]

O'Donnell Heritage Museum

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Osama bin Laden's Hideout Compound

No reference for "a Dan Blocker room" - which appears in the photo caption. Ref 1 supports the name Dan Blocker Museum. Not clear if Ref 1 is a reliable source. Length and age are ok. Racepacket (talk) 18:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Blocker material is in a separate room on the top floor. Source 1 says "there is simply a Dan Blocker area to the museum of artifacts." It uses area, rather than room. Whether room or area, it shouldn't matter. The musuem is not named the "Dan Blocker Museum" as I explained. Billy Hathorn (talk) 19:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC) no "C[reply]
What makes ref 1 a reliable source? How about changing the hook to "Dan Blocker display"? Racepacket (talk) 19:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Change made. Billy Hathorn (talk) 23:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. Racepacket (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Balai Pustaka

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self nom at 13:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hook, length, creation date checkout fine. Assume good faith on external sources. Comte0 (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed: Gunner (dog) Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Osama bin Laden's Hideout Compound

Osama bin Laden's Hideout Compound

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:38, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • One of the self-nominators still needs to review another article. OCNative (talk) 02:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Review checks out. Since Billy Hathorn signed off on everything else related to this hook, this is ready for DYK. OCNative (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table tennis at the 2012 Summer Olympics

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 11:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- Article has 1,781 characters. However the article has redlinks, including See also portion. - AnakngAraw (talk) 02:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not aware of any rules against having redlinks in a DYK article (only in the hook). In any case the article that the redlink led to has now been created - Basement12 (T.C) 07:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Banksia candolleana

yellow flowerhead

5x expanded by Casliber (talk), Hesperian (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 08:42, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • "50% new" sounded a bit ominous, as that would imply a 2x expansion only. It's a 6.5x expansion and it just scrapes in at above 1500B of readable prose. Regarding the hook fact reference, what is online is an abstract, but that doesn't confirm the fact. Hence, AGF for the fact being in the book proper. Schwede66 23:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)

5x expanded by Horologium (talk). Self nom at 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that the Florida State Anthem, "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)", was written by a Briton who had lived in Florida for only a dozen years? Horologium (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
reviewed by Gamaliel, who has lived in Florida longer than the author of the new song. (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Which hook? I personally prefer ALT1, especially since the original does not link to the purportedly racist song. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:59, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or perhaps ALT2: "... that "Florida (Where the Sawgrass Meets the Sky)" was intended to replace a purportedly racist song as the Florida State Song?" Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neviusia dunthornei

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • the links to abstracts for the first two refs appear not to be working. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:49, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Odd the links for the abstracts seem to be working fine for me. The only one that appears to not be working (and I cant seem to get it to work) is the pubmed ID for DeVore et all (2004). Can you try again.--Kevmin § 17:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PMID still not working but it has a direct link now so can let it slide WRT DYK. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:36, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
good to go. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Allegiance Council

Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 4

The Bridge of Peace (Georgia)

  • ... that the bow-shaped pedestrian Bridge of Peace in Tbilisi over Kura River, equipped with motion sensors, lights up the interior walkway in reaction to pedestrian movement (pictured)?

Created by Tuscumbia (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length is fine, and the article is well written and nicely illustrated. However - there are some minor issues: The text of the hook is not explicitly in the given source, which only says "The Bridge of Peace possesses an interactive light display system. 30,000 LEDs and 240 sensors installed within the structure convey specific messages, scrolled across the two parapets of the bridge every hour. The universal messages are relayed in Morse code and signify the human elements according to the Mendeleiev table". Also, the link to the 4th reference just take you to the Philips Lumileds home page, not the actual interview with the designer. Tzu Zha Men (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


HMS Sainfoin (F183), SS Takliwa

Photograph showing HMS Sainfoin at Singapore in 1945

HMS Sainfoin 5x expanded, SS Takliwa created by Mjroots (talk). Self nom at 09:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article expansion, ref, length and hook check out. Nice expansion!--NortyNort (Holla) 14:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Steve Scully

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 01:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Arvid Olsson

  • Date, length and hook checks out. --Soman (talk) 17:16, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Cambodia

Cambodian women are compared to the Apsaras of Angkor Wat

Created by AnakngAraw (talk). Self nom at 01:20, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date. length and hook fine.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Armoured trains of Poland

Altilery wagon, used in Polish armored trains "Śmiały" and "Piłsudczyk" (before 1939)

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 22:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Arvid Olsson

Arvid Olsson

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 21:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Operation Mallard below. --Soman (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted 'former Soviet Union' back to 'Soviet Russia'. Soviet Russia was not 'former' in the early 1920s. --Soman (talk) 02:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also made some further rvs back to wordings in original hook. Might have been better with an ALT1. --Soman (talk) 15:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saints Peter and Paul Church, Kraków

The facade

Created by Krakowski (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Date good, length good, hook cited, good to go but you need to review an article. Doh5678 Talk 21:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, this is Krakowski's first DYK nomination, and the review requirement only applies to users who have at least 5 DYK credits. Since Doh5678 says the date, length, and hook check out, this is good to go for DYK. OCNative (talk) 02:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Mallard


Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed Noriaki Tsuchimoto below [24] Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Can this be kept for the anniversary of the operation on the 6 June's page.Jim Sweeney (talk) 17:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, hook good. Offline sources accepted AGF. --Soman (talk) 02:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • – (ec) Hook referenced to reliable offline book source. Hope that it will be appear on the Main Page on 6 June! --Eisfbnore talk 02:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noriaki Tsuchimoto

5x expanded by Michitaro (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gunner (dog)

Gunner and his handler Percy Westcott
Add rollover text!

Created by Spy007au (talk). Self nom at 11:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date of creation and length seem to check out, as do the online sources. Offline source accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But perhaps ALT1 : "... that during the bombing of Darwin in World War II, Gunner's hearing was so acute that he detected approaching Japanese aircraft before they showed up on radar?"
The original is a little long. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:40, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The alternative hook is OK with me. Spy007au (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighty, good to go! Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Knut Tvedt

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 11:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Melba (film)

Created by MichaelQSchmidt (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length and hook reference verified. However, of the four citations offered to prove the hook reference, only the last two specifically state this is her screen debut. The first two should be removed as citations for that. Michitaro (talk) 17:12, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As those cites contain other non-related but pertinant information for our readers, I have simply moved them to another spot eithin the lede. Thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:42, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Met Ball

  • ... that the Met Ball is considered to be the fashion industry's premier annual red carpet event?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't believe the cite which refers to the Met Ball being the fashion industry's (which is a world wide organisation) major red carpet event, can be correctly referenced here. As this is taken from the New York Fashion magazine, could the article be taken as a more localised meaning? The fact that they are the "Oscars of the East Coast" must refer to the fact that they are therefore lesser to the Oscars and are therefore not the fashion industry's premier annual event. But the article is long enough, well cited and correctly dated. Just needs the hook tweaking. FruitMonkey (talk) 22:32, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair call, I'm probably being too picky looking for the exacrt phrase "Fashion industry's premier annual red carpet event?"; cites together back up the quote. Good to go. FruitMonkey (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

KOI-428b

  • ... that extrasolar planet KOI-428b was confirmed as a planet after astronomers compiled the equivalent to one night of observations on the planet using a 1.93m telescope?

Created by Starstriker7 (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed: Wiki-Watch --Starstriker7(Talk) 04:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and hook reference 1 and all verified. Nice article. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 07:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maryland Bridge

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 04:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the title is misleading. It may imply the MD near Washington, D.C. Shouldn't you put Winnipeg or Canada after "Maryland Bridge". There could be more on the significance of this bridge? Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Billy Hathorn (talk) 03:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to rewrite the hook. Billy Hathorn (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think "so-named" should be removed. That suggests the name is under debate or contentious. So, for example, ALT1 ... that a corner post shaped as a cairn has been preserved in the third construction of the Maryland Bridge in Winnipeg, Canada?Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

America's Most Hated Family in Crisis

5x expanded by Doh5678 (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reviewed: Saints Peter and Paul Church, Kraków
    • The hook checks out, but unfortunately, according to DYKcheck, the article is currently at 3,965 characters, and was at 1,032 before editing began on May 4. That means it has not been 5x expanded. (A 5x expansion, by my math, would have to be 5,160 characters.) Unless I'm mistaken? — Hunter Kahn 00:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 5

Siam Cup

  • ... that the Siam Cup was hidden in an unknown place to prevent it being melted down by the Nazis and was only rediscovered in 1947?

Created by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 19:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agus Suhartono

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 17:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Viktor Herou

Viktor Herou

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:51, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Steve Scully. --Soman (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length okay. Foreign language sources accepted in good faith. Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rod Thornton

Created by Francium12 (talk). Self nom at 16:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sanmenxia Dam

The downstream side of a concrete structure that is used to retain water and produce electricity

Created/self-nom --NortyNort (Holla) 13:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Nothing remarkable about the PRC arresting people for such criticism; focus more on the technical aspects. Include information about location in western Henan. Also, don't simply use "China" in a political context when you actually are referring to the PRC. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 14:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree it isn't remarkable. I usually focus on design but thought the controversy was more interesting in this case. I haven't seen an arrest like this related to a dam. Usually it is violent protesters. The amount of trapped sediment could be an interesting alternate. I also try to keep hooks short and feel PRC (now piped) is implied along with trying to not have too many location identifiers. Other thoughts are welcome, thanks for yours. I will work on an ALT.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Modern pentathlon at the 2012 Summer Olympics

Created by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date are fine but the reference only refers to him having a monopoly in Utrecht and says he didn't move there until 1872. I think the years in the hook need altering and it should state where he had the monopoly - Basement12 (T.C) 13:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1... that Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe had a virtual monopoly in Utrecht on the building of new Catholic churches from 1872 until 1882?
  • I'd reorder the wording of ALT1 slightly
ALT2... that Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe had a virtual monopoly on the building of new Catholic churches in Utrecht from 1872 until 1882?
I've added an inline citation to the article directly after the fact from the hook so either ALT1 or ALT2 is good to go - Basement12 (T.C) 13:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 National Democratic Party presidential primaries

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wyborn Reef Light

A reef with a skeletal stainless steel tower topped by a white colored lantern room

  • ... that the 14 workers that constructed Wyborn Reef Light (Wyborn Reef pictured) in 1938, had to live in tents on a 50 by 50 feet (15 m × 15 m) wooden platform, 4 feet 6 inches (1.37 m) above tiger shark infested water?

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date OK, AGF on number of workers and height of platform above water level, size of platform confirmed. Hook could do with a mention of where the light is (Queensland, Australia). Mjroots (talk) 11:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I corrected a typo and now all those other facts are also online. The hook is already very long due to having all those conversions and the image, so I couldn't fit the location in. If the preper finds a way to include it, I'm all for adding "a lighthouse in Queensland, Australia" somewhere. --Muhandes (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe the conversions could be dropped. Anyhow, the promotion of the hook does not rely on a location being added. Mjroots (talk) 19:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

POLYGON experiment

Created by Headbomb (talk). Self nom at 07:09, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I just realized that tomorrow was the birthdate of Leonid Brekhovskikh, he would have been 94. It would be nice to have it featured on the main page for the occasion! It's a bit short notice, but why not? Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 14:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Khun Bedu

Reviewed:Jørgen Rytterager and George Edmund Butler

Created by Khazar (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The fact the he organized youth to specifically make rafts is not substantiated in the reference. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 04:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. It is cited specifically in the Amnesty source, so I'll add that as an inline to that sentence as well. Or we could just move to an ALT1: ... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was arrested following protests in which Loikaw youth released balloons and small rafts with slogans attached opposing the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? What do you think? I think I still prefer the original, but am good with either. Thanks for reviewing. -- Khazar (talk) 05:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
These are fine, but I think his 35 year prison term is what's really notable here and merits inclusion. That fact points out more than any other the nature of his protest. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 06:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. What would you say to ALT2: "... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was given a thirty-seven year prison sentence following protests in which Loikaw youth released balloons and small rafts with slogans opposing the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? -- Khazar (talk) 11:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Too many characters. Contrast the simplicity of his actions to the severity of his sentence. How about, "... that democracy activist Khun Bedu was sentenced to 37 years in prison for organizing Loikaw youth to release balloons and rafts in protest of the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum? — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 16:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me. Thanks. -- Khazar (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, looking at that again, I'm not sure that hook's quite accurate; Khun Bedu appears to have been held responsible for all of the protest offenses (including spreading VCDs hostile to the regime and vandalizing govt. property). What would you say to "... that Khun Bedu was sentenced to 37 years in prison for offenses including organizing Loikaw youth to release balloons and rafts in protest of the 2008 Burmese constitutional referendum?" i've got that at 189 chars. --Khazar (talk) 18:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. — btphelps (talk) (contribs) 18:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Snarum Station, Jørgen Rytterager

Created by Eisfbnore (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date and length are fine, offline foreign language hook accepted in good faith. But with only one source for an average-seeming Norweigan station master, does this meet the WP:GNG? -- Khazar (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2010 New Patriotic Party Presidential Primaries

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self nom at 01:57, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everything checks out. I don't see any problem with this. Maybe clarify/rephrase what "elected as flag bearer" means, as many people would probably expect something like "elected as the leader of the NPP", but I leave that up to the author. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 07:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Lumír Ondřej Hanuš

Created by Cimmerian praetor (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

National Security Council (Saudi Arabia)

Created by Yk Yk Yk (talk). Self nom at 19:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual. Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination, but no more than six weeks before the occasion. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

8 May, second Sunday after Easter

Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104

figure of the shepherd dressed in blue, carrying a sheep around his neck, his right hand holding the legs of the sheep, his left hand a stick

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

May 14 (FA Cup Final)

1926 FA Cup Final

5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep for this year's FA Cup Final on May 14th? Miyagawa (talk) 18:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed and moved. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 2 (Feast of the Ascension)

Ascension of Jesus in Christian art

Ascension by Dosso Dossi

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:50, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


the hook, date, length, references all check out so I'll pass this for DYK. Now, as for some feedback on the article, you don't "usually" need sources for the info in the lead. The idea is that the info in the lead should be an overview of information in the article. Also consolidate some of your sources when you get a chance, I see some repeats in there (see citation pages on Wiki for the html templates). But theses are all suggestions for GA status or B-class rating. I also moved you up to a C-class rating for you because it is a good article and well written. look forward to seeing it on the front page, Cheers! Kayz911 (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

June 6 (Queensland Day)

Anzac Avenue

Reviewed: Amie mac Ruari ([32])

5x expanded by Lankiveil (talk). Self nom at 01:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks. That was the intention, but you know, procrastination ;). Lankiveil (speak to me) 22:44, 25 April 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Queensland "was named in honour of Queen Victoria, who on 6 June 1859 signed Letters Patent separating the colony from New South Wales." (Copied from Queensland#Etymology.) So 6 June 2011, which is only a few weeks ahead, may be a good day to put a photo of this street in Queensland on MainPage. --PFHLai (talk) 18:27, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't thought of doing it as a Queensland Day one, but I quite like the idea, and have no objections at all! 110.174.224.43 (talk) 08:40, 3 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

June 12 (Pentecost)

Ipomopsis sancti-spiritus

Created by IceCreamAntisocial (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 02:48, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length, date, and hook reference (3) all check out. Good to go.--Nvvchar. 08:41, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Shall we wait for Pentecost? Probably a little too far ahead in future.... --PFHLai (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]